sk-discussion

[novel locust]

Gacha Song

[empty trench]

But this time we found it on a gaming platform

[nimble radish]

far too many controls needed

[sinful flare]

No

[quasi yacht]

oh yeah

[sinful flare]

No

[nimble radish]

which is the main problem with mobile game ports, theres only one button
the screen

[quasi yacht]

ti forgot abt the spells

[novel locust]

Tc scrapped base silksong a while ago and decided to turn it into a candy crush app

[empty trench]

So its a good signal

[true vine]

mobile doom eternal when

[opaque sigil]

Steam

[empty trench]

Gog

[novel locust]

Gotta match up the charms

[opaque sigil]

steam placeholder

[empty trench]

Lol

[little tendon]

@novel locust im boutta make you a creampie

[stable quiver]

whats Gog

[wanton crest]

yeah but gog cannot be wrong right ?

[opaque sigil]

It can be

[lost coyote]

it could always just be a placeholder date though, the nvidia database says 1st Feburary but that doesnt mean its coming out on that date necessarily

[opaque sigil]

Especially since that date was clearly not meant to be visible

[stark estuary]

Sigh.

[trim estuary]

🧯

[quasi yacht]

[nimble radish]

tammo you're having a kirb moment

[empty trench]

Many sources are pointing for 2022 (youtube, gog, etc), its getting sus

[lost coyote]

tc acting sus

[stark estuary]

What "kirb moment" stfu

[coarse leaf]

Im gonna hire a ninja who will stalk them and tell me everything they say including the release date

[stable quiver]

whats gog?

[trim estuary]

It’s because of the Nvidia placeholder

[empty trench]

Ik

[opaque sigil]

It really isn't getting sus because most of them are getting that info automatically from a shitty source with no real merit

[lost coyote]

you're now part of a negativity phrase how do you feel

[pale lion]

i can understand youtube / google having the date as 2022 because of articles about the nvidia leak but gog is interesting

[nimble radish]

people do keep taking you seriously when you tell jokes

[empty trench]

True

[true vine]

I guess we'll see on February

[stable quiver]

wtf is gog

[empty trench]

We already got 2022 from nvidia and gog

[lost coyote]

gogon deez- no I'll get banned for inappropriate content

[ocean mulch]

If the release is in 2022 it's just a coincidence

[stark estuary]

Then Tammo wasn't the one having the "kirb moment".

[opaque sigil]

Neither of those are significant

[stable quiver]

lol

[true vine]

god of gigachads

[stark estuary]

God of Gods

[stable quiver]

lol

[ocean mulch]

Gravy of granola

[novel locust]

I'm going into criminology and investigation in college just to investigate the silksong release date

[empty trench]

Bruh dont kill my hype

[sinful flare]

Uh https://www.google.com/search?q=gog+store

[lost coyote]

Graig of Gods

[dusty nimbus]

What do I do when there's a spider on the wall?

[stable quiver]

but for real, what is gog?

[stark estuary]

No

[ocean mulch]

Nothing

[novel locust]

Gogy

[sinful flare]

Just scream silksong reference

[coarse leaf]

You ask it if its hornet, if yes u ask for the release date

[dusty nimbus]

Understandable, I forfeit my home to the spider

[lost coyote]

gog is just a company, google it

[true vine]

no it's not

[stable quiver]

ok thank you

[true vine]

it's like steam but not steam

[lost coyote]

and steam is a company

[sinful flare]

I just sent the google link that leads you to the search page of gog

[haughty brook]

https://twitter.com/Hatto39487693/status/1477865945880498181

Hato (@Hatto39487693)

やるしかなかったんです

#ホロウナイト
#HollowKnight
#SILKSONG2036

Twitter · Jan 3, 2022, 4:54 AM

[true vine]

it stands for "good old games"

[dusty nimbus]

I don't think it would answer me positively

[sinful flare]

Try anyways

[stark estuary]

You called me a pessimist. I am not. In fact, it's at times like these where I just think how much worse things would have been if Hope had actually been let out of Pandora's Box.

[true vine]

isn't steam run by valve

gog is run by the company that made cyberpunk

[quasi yacht]

leaked release date

[coarse leaf]

gog is a company, steam isnt

[coarse hawk]

GOG is like CD Projekt Red's game launcher

[stable quiver]

I know what steam is lol

[dusty nimbus]

Alright be right back

[stark estuary]

No shit

[sinful flare]

Steam is my favorite company

[lost coyote]

I meant it in response to the other guy it wasnt an actual response

[stable quiver]

oh ok

[lost coyote]

steam is actually a gas so you're all wrong

[stable quiver]

true

[quasi yacht]

ok budyd

[opaque sigil]

No, it's just a drm free digital store

[dusty nimbus]

Steam is gas form of watah

[nimble radish]

free digital store

[quasi yacht]

wow

[sinful flare]

Gog is gas form of uh

[empty trench]

The gog bug was kinda cringe

[quasi yacht]

gfuel

[lost coyote]

steam is gas form of water

the sea has a lot of water

there are corals in the sea

there is a coral area in silksong

what does it all mean

[sinful flare]

Right thanks

[quasi yacht]

there is a spa in silksong

[sinful flare]

There is a coral area in silksong

[ocean mulch]

:coral:

[low atlas]

Ok so uhm sorry for just barging in like this, but i thought this might be the right place to ask this: Why do you think did Google and Youtube start to display "2022" as the release year for Silksong a few days ago?

[quasi yacht]

cuz its this year#

[sinful flare]

Mostly clickbait websites claiming so

[opaque sigil]

Because of all the articles about the nvidia leak

[stark estuary]

Because there are a fuckton of articles reporting that as the release date due to the leak.

[haughty brook]

I dunno, maybe its just the algorithm catching the multiple clickbait articles as fact.

[opaque sigil]

It's not like google has people manually doing that, it's automatic

[stable quiver]

was the nvidia leak real or fake?

[low atlas]

but that leak was months ago, right? and the change was only since New Year I think

[stark estuary]

It's a placeholder.

[opaque sigil]

It was doing it for a while

[sinful flare]

Fake

[lost coyote]

we don't know it might be because of a few people editing the wikipedia page to say 2022 instead of TBA so Googles automatic system picked up on that

[pale lion]

there were more articles written about it because of the indie world showcase as well

[charred cloak]

ive been away for a while, whats the latest theory?

[opaque sigil]

Google displaying it as 2022 is not really a new thing

[lost coyote]

I feel like if it was because of the articles then it would say February 1st 2022 and not just 2022

[stark estuary]

It isn't but leave it to #sk-discussion to be grasping at straws.

[stable quiver]

does anyone know when Nintendo Direct is happing this year, because we could see SS there

[opaque sigil]

It did, for a while

[low atlas]

that was my guess as well

[fluid sundial]

Your playing as the pale king

[lost coyote]

Google used to say Feburary 1st 2022 but now it just says 2022

[sinful flare]

There is a chance

[stark estuary]

Ahem

[ocean mulch]

Maybe articles stopped mentioning Feb first

[charred cloak]

that again? lame, tired

[sinful flare]

Maybe a chance as low as 0.0001%

[low atlas]

My guess was that maybe it was set to change from nothing to "2022" on New Year's Eve automatically? Would that make sense?

[opaque sigil]

Not really

Why would google do that

[stark estuary]

The chance of SS releasing in Feb is the same as the chance of it releasing in any random month between now and the heat death of the universe

[low atlas]

My guess is three months before the heat death of the universe

[lost coyote]

because google are fucking trolls and just want silksong to come out

[warm bone]

🤨

[opaque sigil]

Google doesn't closely actively follow all projects in order to have that information

[tardy kayak]

silksong 2022 paradox

[warm bone]

What! Nobody would ever be incorrect on the internet

[stark estuary]

I'm still sticking with 2/2/2222 because everyone here seems to really like the number 2.

[lost coyote]

the only reason the date would have changed is some database somewhere picked up the 2022 date, but exactly how that happened we dont know

[low atlas]

Makes sense. You mentioned that Google mentioning Silksong to come out in 2022 isn't a new thing. When did u first see it?

[opaque sigil]

Google wouldn't scour private databases, even if it did have access

[true vine]

oh hi stizzl

[low atlas]

Henlo!

[opaque sigil]

Shortly after the leak, and it's said 2022 generally for at least a month or two, I think

[lost coyote]

google uses databases to automatically generate Topics on youtube, which is where the 2022 date first showed up

[opaque sigil]

It definitely wasn't at new year's

[small goblet]

stizzl

[true vine]

and people are seeing it in the youtube silksong tabs, and mobile gog

[opaque sigil]

They wouldn't use nonpublic databases, that would be scummy and probably illegal

[true vine]

so of course silksong is coming out on february 1st because logic

[lost coyote]

I never said it was nonpublic

[opaque sigil]

Then find the reliable public database with 2022

[stark estuary]

Found it

[low atlas]

Ahh ok, thanks. It seems like the fandom only started talking about it a few days ago

[opaque sigil]

Well that's how it goes, somebody notices it and makes a big deal about it, and then it's a thinng

[lost coyote]

it doesnt need to be reliable google's bots just scour the web for certain data and shoves it in

[stark estuary]

[opaque sigil]

Which is why that date is not meaningful

[true vine]

wikipedia moment

[low atlas]

I guess, but normally it takes the fandom around 0.5 seconds until there are 10 books written about a leak or sth

[lost coyote]

it definitely did not say 2022 before the new year, I saw the massive influx of screenshots of the date showing up on Jan 1st and it makes no sense why NO ONE would have posted that before and EVERYONE suddenly noticed it on the same day

[true vine]

probably just companies trying to take advantage of impatient people and monetizing their sense of entitlement

[valid sable]

wut

[low atlas]

no I meant it in like a "The fandom catches on really quickly" type of way

[opaque sigil]

Sometimes things can fly under the radar for a little while

[regal tiger]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XElfwJzLYA

[lost coyote]

not for 2 months

[true vine]

oh my bad

[true vine]

not anymore

[stark estuary]

gdi

[low atlas]

I remember back when I uploaded my last Silksong video 4 weeks ago, I did not notice a 2022 tag beside "Silksong", and I thiiink I would have noticed it. So speaking from personal experience, it was prooobably not there until at least 4 weeks ago

[lost coyote]

the HK community doesnt let a single speck of dust fly under the radar, just yesterday we were pulling up TC moving some random ass archives for no reason

[true vine]

Thanks, Jack ™️

[lost coyote]

same, I noticed it on Jan 1st and I wasnt even looking for it so I think I would have noticed if it was there before

[stark estuary]

pepeg

[mild compass]

I have a screenshot of the 2022 tag from dec 30. It definitely was on at least YouTube before the new year

[low atlas]

fyi: i am not saying the google things mean anything, i am just pretty sure that they have only started showing the "2022" thing... since, well, since 2022

[opaque sigil]

#sk-discussion message
Been autofilling 2022 for at least two months

[stark estuary]

People did notice it back then. It's just that more people are noticing it now. If you wanna cling to a date that has no significance then that's fine tho.

[lost coyote]

if you google it now it just shows 2022 instead of February 1st, clearly something in googles systems changed in response to something

[nimble radish]

did it show up on the google thingy for the game?

[opaque sigil]

Doesn't matter whether google's algorithm changed how it treats it, it's still using the same data

[lost coyote]

but the fact that it doesnt show february 1st anymore means that it isnt using the same data

[opaque sigil]

Except the way that google collects that information is the same

And it's the way that google collects it (not the data itself) that makes it unreliable

[lost coyote]

the only reason the search results could have changed is:

a) something in their data changed
b) someone manually changed it

and I doubt anyone at google bothered to manually change it for no reason

[opaque sigil]

Get a couple journalists to write articles about silksong releasing in 2023 and eventually that would show up

[stark estuary]

2048

[low atlas]

In November Google was referring to a specifically picked article tho, in a "It is Feb 2021, here is a article that '''''''proves''''''' that" kind of way.
Whereas now it is just like "2022. Source: trust me, bro"

[small goblet]

why would google care about a random indie game lol

[nimble radish]

I think google changed it because articles are saying different stuff now

[opaque sigil]

Or because there are more of them

[true vine]

who needs journalists when we can just do it ourselves

let's write a bunch of articles saying silksong will come out in 2070

[opaque sigil]

as in because there are so many sources, indicating a specific one is redundant

[lost coyote]

yeah exactly, I know for a fact that before 2022 google showed Feburary 1st with a linked article to support it, but now the linked article is gone

[nimble radish]

it is totally possible to mess up the algorithms that way

[stark estuary]

Well it's not like there's someone manually inputting that information, it's bound to change if the articles change.

[carmine sapphire]

Silksong

[low atlas]

that would be fun lol

[opaque sigil]

If a ton of articles say "2022" but not "Feb 1" then that would cause the change we see

[trim estuary]

silknews.net?

[true vine]

we do a little trolling

[nimble radish]

but we should gun for 2077 because funny game

[low atlas]

That is true

[lost coyote]

but why doesnt it link an article anymore

[small goblet]

if big sites write that - that will work, but i don't think it will work if we make a bunch of random ass urls and post one article

[opaque sigil]

.

[true vine]

is game rant a big site?
I'm pretty sure polygon hasn't written about silksong yet

[opaque sigil]

At some point it stops linking things

[lost coyote]

but there were many sources reporting the nvidia leak when it first came out, yet google still linked to one single article

[small goblet]

well i guess, i don't really know anything really about game journalists outside of my country

[low atlas]

The Youtube thing is still a bit odd tho. Since at no point ever did that show a year before. During no supposed "leak" period, even with hundreds of articles e.g., believing silksong comes out on June 12th 2020 (remember those days? lol)

[nimble radish]

game rant is a bigger site than many

[opaque sigil]

More specific search terms and it goes back

[trim estuary]

true

[opaque sigil]

Youtube just got it from google

[lost coyote]

that's not more specific that's a different search altogether in terms of keywords

[opaque sigil]

It uses the same system

[true vine]

stizzl have you been on copium recently

[opaque sigil]

Find a date, link a featured article, display the date

When there are enough sources saying the same thing, seems like it just doesn't bother

[low atlas]

yes. always. but again, i am not saying that the youtube and google thing mean anything. I just think they are odd and came here to get some different viewpoints and stuffff

[lost coyote]

no its only showing the feb 1st thing because you put in "leak"

[trim estuary]

Are we 100% sure this is actually how YouTube determines dates

[opaque sigil]

[true vine]

I agree

[opaque sigil]

You completely missed the point of what I posted. It demonstrates how google handles dates when there are fewer sources

[low atlas]

are we sure the sources are fewer tho?

[small goblet]

youtube? maybe. google? absolutely

[opaque sigil]

50m results vs 10m

[lost coyote]

its irrelevant when the data that is used for "silksong release date leak" was the same as the data used for "silksong release date" until a few days ago for no reason

[opaque sigil]

Bruh

It's not irrelevant because what the date is for is not the point

[stark estuary]

[opaque sigil]

Compare result numbers

[true vine]

gamerant stop

[stark estuary]

Silksong coming out never

[nimble radish]

gamerant shut the fuck!

[stark estuary]

gamer ant

[lost coyote]

obviously the results are going to decrease because you added more keywords, what's your point

[low atlas]

i get your point, but the first one is way more specific tho, isnt it? so it makes sense why there are fewer search results to begin with

[true vine]

there's more!

[nimble radish]

I agree

[small goblet]

gamerant

[opaque sigil]

More results for 2022 than february 1 2022

[coarse leaf]

what th-

[nimble radish]

repost permabanned

[trim estuary]

Hey it actually says likely to be false in the caption

[stark estuary]

Who asked

[coarse leaf]

wow this chat just got toxic

[opaque sigil]

So google sees "oh it's 2022 according to this hundred million articles"

[true vine]

regardless

[trim estuary]

You’re literally the FBI

[lost coyote]

do you actually think theres 95 million articles about silksong 2022

[opaque sigil]

And then it sees like 10 million that say "feb 1 2022" and goes "eh the hundred million is fine"

[spare kite]

I mean, when everything for feb 1 2022 includes 2022, so of course there will be more results for 2022

[coarse leaf]

boi

[opaque sigil]

Results are what matter

[compact stag]

silksong discussion be like

[trim estuary]

doesn’t matter

[stark estuary]

No, 95 million search results.

[opaque sigil]

Google looks for a date and shows it

It doesn't think about that all that much

[wary copper]

what if silksong doesn't come out feb 1st what will you guys do then

[nimble radish]

often dead

[lost coyote]

no, millions of those results will just be tweets of people saying 2022 in the same sentence as silksong, which is obviously going to be more common than the more specific February 1st date

[coarse leaf]

i wouldn't be suprised

[opaque sigil]

And so it grabbed 2022 out of the ether

[wary copper]

me too

[coarse leaf]

the leaked release date is sussy baka

[stark estuary]

ether? like ethernet?

[opaque sigil]

Which is why google would favor it. It's much more common

It's the more common result

[spare kite]

I mean I don't think it will come out Feb 1, but saying there's more results for 2022 than Feb 1 2022 is like saying there are more people who are engineers than there are people who are both Engineers and Doctors

[opaque sigil]

[nimble radish]

(wh)ether

[low atlas]

but why a sudden change tho? can we be sure articles mainly focussing around silksong coming out in 2022 with no specified date came out so recently as to overflow the "feb 1 2022" side of things almost immediately and therefore changing the google result from January 1st forward?

[opaque sigil]

Yes it's obvious that 2022 would have more results, but it's because it has more results by such a large margin that it would be more likely to appear

[true vine]

maybe journalists discovered crack concentrate

[low atlas]

that sentence is a mess.

[coarse leaf]

exactly

[opaque sigil]

Does it matter? There's no reason behind that change that has any realistic import

[small goblet]

we're not sure in anything

[stark estuary]

Let's talk about tools

[lost coyote]

I only scrolled down 100 results and i already got to some destiny 2 website that had nothing to do with silksong, 99.9% of results have nothing to do with silksong

[opaque sigil]

It's not like google has inside info, nor would they be able to change things or care enough to do it

[opaque sigil]

Doesn't matter

[lost coyote]

it does when you're COMPARING the results numbers...

[opaque sigil]

Google doesn't read every result and think "hmm does this make sense"

[stark estuary]

No

[low atlas]

I still think it is weird that both Youtube and Google changed their results on January 1st to just say "2022"

[lost coyote]

by the end of that list of 95 million results google is just gonna be spitting out anything with the letter S in it

[opaque sigil]

Youtube is a part of google

[small goblet]

what if all this shit with youtube ss release date, google search result etc is just marketing campaign from leth

[stark estuary]

We're not comparing the accuracy or quality of the results, just the quantity of them. Bruh, you said yourself that we were comparing "the results numbers".

[wary copper]

what if we stop being so impatient even tho its been like 3 years

[lost coyote]

I also said comparing the results numbers is completely irrelevant because if that exact reason, idk why it's even being done

[stark estuary]

3 years isn't even that long.

[fiery coral]

could move on to something else because it doesn't seem like this conversation is going anywhere 🥴

[opaque sigil]

Because google does it automatically, it doesn't have somebody who checks the results

[wary copper]

especially in terms of development

[low atlas]

Yes, but Youtube did not display a date before at all. So why go hand in hand with google all of a sudden? and is the timing a coincidence or based on some kind of weird algorithm/database thing that I know to little off to understand it? those are my main questions

[stark estuary]

Yeah, let's talk about tools!

[fiery coral]

Tools!

[spare kite]

Youtube is owned by google?

[lost coyote]

tools are GREAT they look awesome

[opaque sigil]

Not a coincidence, google just probably hit some threshold of data where it shows it as the actual date

When google did that, youtube did it too because they probably use the same database

[stark estuary]

No it's owned by McDonald's

[nimble radish]

does youtube only put the year once the year has either passed or began

[coarse leaf]

yes

[low atlas]

i know, i know. And before, Youtube and Google showed different results (nothing vs feb 1st). Now they both show 2022.

[lost coyote]

what do you guys uhhh think some cool tools concepts are

[low atlas]

That would make sense I think

[little tendon]

tools

[fiery coral]

tool that one-hit KOs a boss

[lost coyote]

like wayward compass

[opaque sigil]

Knowledge panels are updated automatically as information changes on the web, but Google also considers changes in two main ways: directly from the entities depicted in the knowledge panel, and from general user feedback.

[stark estuary]

Blackwyrm Blade, Hornet stabs herself to become Blackwyrm. Eternal Esmy, oneshots a boss.

[opaque sigil]

https://support.google.com/knowledgepanel/answer/9163198?hl=en

[true vine]

ah

so we can just user feedback

[trim estuary]

An orange jar that creates poison on the floor

[fiery coral]

'Eternal Esmy'

[true vine]

“silksong comes out in 2080"

and that'll appear as the search result eventually

[high hedge]

Are we talking about the YouTube screenshot again?

[fiery coral]

Cameo by Sly as well then

[spare kite]

I like the Gorbinator 3000, with this tool you too can ascend with gorb

[quasi yacht]

who even is esmy?

[tropic mica]

I Just hope we get some kind of clerity, and that could mean TC comming in and saying this is false. But right now there is Just too much uncertainty. Combine that with 3 years of dying hype and this is the result

[small goblet]

4th nailmaster

[fiery coral]

A character mentioned once in passing by Sly

[opaque sigil]

Knowledge panels are information boxes that appear on Google when you search for entities (people, places, organizations, things) that are in the Knowledge Graph. They are meant to help you get a quick snapshot of information on a topic based on Google’s understanding of available content on the web.

Knowledge panels are automatically generated, and information that appears in a knowledge panel comes from various sources across the web. In some cases, we may work with data partners who provide authoritative data on specific topics like movies or music, and combine that data with information from other open web sources.

[stark estuary]

Yeah it summons Esmy, Sly, and the Nailmasters.

[trim estuary]

And not the dummy near Oro’s hut

[lost coyote]

all we need is leth to come in and tell us to shut the fuck up

[fiery coral]

yes

not the dummy

[quasi yacht]

i thought he was oros punching bag thing

[spare kite]

As someone who existed in the server during the game awards, the hype is definitely not dying

[nimble radish]

no it is the dummy, esmy was a great hopper

[wary copper]

why would esmy look like a hopper

[tropic mica]

Basically

[trim estuary]

The dummy is a dead great hopper with clothes put on it

[stark estuary]

Look Deeper... is that you?

[nimble radish]

actually I find the idea that Esmy was a different great hopper even funnier

esmy was a great hopper, but not that one

[wary copper]

hopmaster

[lost coyote]

I hope they have an area in silksong called Deepernest

[coarse leaf]

yes

[spare kite]

Shallownest

[tropic mica]

Dying might have been the wrong word, but I meant to say something allong the lines of dissapointment and false hope

[nimble radish]

neeperdest

[lost coyote]

or 2deep2nest

[wary copper]

make it even darker

and add more spiders

[spare kite]

It's the same area but they don't give you the lantern in this game

[wary copper]

• its even darker

[ornate beacon]

Can't believe they put a hollow knight fan on xenoblade x.

[lost coyote]

make it pitch black so the only thing you can do is listen to hornet say shaw again and again

[coarse leaf]

ss comest out in 6969 confirmed by the sussy baka imposter sus amogus

[quasi yacht]

nightmare demon

[ornate beacon]

I stand corrected.

[spare kite]

The objective of the game is to ASCEND, which means the final boss is going to be Gorb, if you somehow defeat this chad of a bug then you become truly ascended and take Gorb's place among the stars

[low atlas]

ahh thanks. So basically it is very likely that the change is due to "various sources". Tho there is still an off-chance that the "entities behind the depicted panel" aka Team Cherry had them change the date. Is highly unlikely imo, but could make sense, given that the Feb 1st 2022 might have confused a lot of Hollow Knight Fans that are not as familiar with the community and are therefore not familiar with the Feb 1st thing likely being not true. But I guess we can be 95% sure this change was due to various sources

[opaque sigil]

I really doubt TC would change that before the release date was announced, if at all

[wary copper]

maybe there were more nailmasters but they all died young

[quasi yacht]

wi bet infections did not change primal aspid

[tropic mica]

Yeah they probaly won't change it either way

[tropic mica]

Maybe we meet one in ss....

[stark estuary]

There probably were, as Sly says that TK has mastered the arts of his remaining pupils, which indicates there were indeed others at some point.

[low atlas]

Yeah, I agree

[small goblet]

what should this guy hold nail with?

[wary copper]

his nose

[spare kite]

I thought esmy was supposed to be isma?

[stark estuary]

Sheer force of will

[coarse leaf]

like galion

[haughty brook]

I think that Esmy theory is just stretching things quite a bit

[quasi yacht]

nop

[coarse leaf]

nop

[wary copper]

his art is to frisbee your nail

[trim estuary]

I don’t think the nail masters were ever near the Great Knights

[stark estuary]

Ya don't say

[lost coyote]

esmy is elderbug

[opaque sigil]

Esmy theories are pretty much categorically jokes

[small goblet]

knight is esmy reincarnated

[quasi yacht]

esmy is godseeker confirmed

[coarse leaf]

sus

[lost coyote]

esmy is the crawlid i killed confirmed

[quasi yacht]

esmy impostor

[coarse leaf]

the FBI play amongus

[stark estuary]

See, "Esmy is X" doesn't make for a funny joke. They need a bit more nuance than that.

[spare kite]

sly is esmy

[marsh ibex]

@coarse leaf roleplaying isn’t allowed on the server

[lost coyote]

esmy is Kirb (new) confirmed

[marsh ibex]

and don’t flood chat with esmy is x

[quasi yacht]

fly is primal aspid

[lost coyote]

oops

[small goblet]

esmy is x change my mind

[stark estuary]

This is not correct, but I can see why you'd think that. Emsy is the same species as Sly. Some mistake them for brothers.

[lost coyote]

I can never tell when you're joking or not

[coarse leaf]

ngl thats kinda sus

[fiery coral]

Emsy, not to be confused with Esmy and Etsy

[stark estuary]

Yeah, Emsy.

[wary copper]

im not sure whats going on

[stark estuary]

Don't worry - neither can anyone else.

[small goblet]

we neither

[wary copper]

ah

[quasi yacht]

nobody can

[lost coyote]

guys imagine if silksong

[stark estuary]

I don't need to imagine

[quasi yacht]

was esmy

[wheat sail]

who is esmy

[quasi yacht]

esmy is esmy

[wary copper]

i know when silksong

[stark estuary]

Emsy is a character first appearing in Hollow Knight: Shadownail. He is a bug who was a fellow Nailsage alongside his friend Sly. He is a shopkeeper and an optional boss.

[lost coyote]

tell us when silksong

[wary copper]

silk song is

[quasi yacht]

shadownail?

[fiery coral]

Kirb they asked about Esmy

Not Emsy

[lost coyote]

OMG

[fiery coral]

[stark estuary]

Ah, apologies.

[fiery coral]

Anyway

[wheat sail]

That is just my alter ego

[fiery coral]

Esmy is a character first appearing in Hollow Knight: Shadownail. She is a bug who was a fellow Nailsage alongside her friend Sly. She is a shopkeeper and an optional boss.

[wheat sail]

I understand now

[shell yacht]

[spare kite]

The prequel to Zoteboat?

[grim loom]

Why TC has the worst communication with their fans ?

[lost coyote]

Esmy is a fucking idiot first appearing in Hollow Knight: Zoteboat. She is a bug who was a fellow Nailsage alongside her friend Elderbug. She is a terrible person and an optional boss.

[quasi yacht]

sly is a girl?

[shell yacht]

read everything graig said last night

then never speak again

[opaque sigil]

Obvious bait

[grim loom]

Link?

[coarse leaf]

imagine swearing

[stark estuary]

Hi Joker when'd you get demodded? I assume it was cos of these bad takes.

[lost coyote]

graig just said "they dont care they just want to make game 24/7"

[fiery coral]

I mean a one year silence isn't going to be received well regardless

[opaque sigil]

[coarse leaf]

why is this chat always like this

[fiery coral]

no idea

[grim loom]

I mean hey even cuphead dlc is decalred lol

[small goblet]

why is this chat

[lost coyote]

the cuphead dlc looks so good

[shell yacht]

damn i didnt know cuphead devs were making silksong

[fiery coral]

remember when there were jokes about 'at least we're not Elden Ring, ha'

[stark estuary]

Fake fan

[fiery coral]

Time to demod Water

[lost coyote]

team cherry have actually made every game ever behind the scenes

[wheat sail]

thats why dlc took long for cuphead

[shell yacht]

fake 02

[quasi yacht]

cuphead lore is better than hk lore change my mind

[lost coyote]

does cuphead even have lore

[fiery coral]

Cuphead has a #hk-lore channel?

[stark estuary]

Yeah

[shell yacht]

devils contracts < gods

[grim loom]

Who even cares for lore?

[fiery coral]

godhome bad though

[shell yacht]

godhomes a mess

[grim loom]

Bosses and gameplay are everything

[quasi yacht]

yes but its trash

[grim loom]

I bet no one understand HK lore before mossbag's emerged

[stark estuary]

It's almost like people can enjoy different aspects of a game, or that people enjoy games for different things.

[serene chasm]

Lore is love. Lore is life

[shell yacht]

damn youre just all kinds of wrong discount joker

[fiery coral]

Saying this in front of a lore mod and a couple #hk-lore regulars

Bold move

[stark estuary]

That being said I agree 100% Lore is garbage trash dumpster fire!

[marsh ibex]

two lore mods

three now

[stark estuary]

Oh it's the real Joker

[grim loom]

They watched mossbag videos

[fiery coral]

so who's the third

Is Ghosti secretly watching using an alt

[shell yacht]

mossbag is mostly responsible for the large lore misconceptions that still exist rn

[serene chasm]

Lore is what keeps games alive imo.

[grim loom]

They watched mossbag videos

[marsh ibex]

Say it again

[lost coyote]

I'm the real morgana

in sheep costume

[grim loom]

TC could just make a tweet for calming us what's going on

[marsh ibex]

that would just piss people off

[fiery coral]

It'd be received very poorly

[opaque sigil]

Well idk about that, but it certainly does add to the experience significantly if well executed

[marsh ibex]

oh wow all they said was one thing

[lost coyote]

TC will probably retweet some random merch thing in 3 months and leave it there and we'll be fine with it

[shell yacht]

if you need a game dev to calm you down seek professional help please

[fiery coral]

After the one year silence if you go "We're working on it! :)"

[marsh ibex]

if you think news before like edge was dry two weeks after

[quasi yacht]

who would win in a fight zote or elderbug

[marsh ibex]

that would either satiate people for 2 minutes or make them mad

[shell yacht]

elderbug prob

[marsh ibex]

and cmon guys

[lost coyote]

too many mods on rn my entire screen is just orange

[marsh ibex]

you shouldn’t need constant assurance someone isn’t dead

[digital glen]

I think elderbug has a secret, he is the most powerfull character in hk

[stark estuary]

Hot take: JoOoker's takes > JoJoker's takes

[shell yacht]

yall got riddles interviews magazine articles and treehouse, then went rabbid in a week. wasting time on news updates is literally wasted on you

[sage glade]

i think that would be cornifer

he travels in the 3rd dimension

[marsh ibex]

Understandable

[stark estuary]

So does everyone else

[sage glade]

even gets past void gates

[lost coyote]

I don't think news updates should be completely discarded just because of a vocal minority of dumb angry fans

[serene chasm]

If I can't see someone that means they disappeared

[haughty brook]

Which misconceptions?

[digital glen]

Hes the backup dreamer

[marsh ibex]

PowderedWater is typing…

[haughty brook]

Oh

[stark estuary]

This one ||made you look||

[stable quiver]

whos the backup dreamer?

[stark estuary]

Esmy

[digital glen]

Cornifer

[shell yacht]

whos void, where people come from, whos related to what, what powers everybody has etc

[stable quiver]

oh

[grim loom]

Riddles that fireborn that sloved ? Before 1 year ? Gosh

[sage glade]

i thought you were gonna talk about ||right back at you ||

[quasi yacht]

zote

[marsh ibex]

pale beings vs higher beings

[coarse leaf]

yeah i think mossbag knows the most about lore 👍

[shell yacht]

etc

[stark estuary]

Do you have a death wish?

[shell yacht]

his newer shit is heaps better but the old shits just wrong

[grim loom]

They could tweet atleast happy holiday xd ... just say anything

[elfin kindle]

Just joined the server, y'all probably know more than most.

W H E N ?

[small goblet]

well mossbag is almost only one who makes lore vids, ofc he's responsible for almost every lore finding related in hk

[stark estuary]

?sspsa

[thin zephyr]

Reminder: The latest news for both Hollow Knight and Silksong is in #hk-announcements.
Check the pinned messages for more information, including a FAQ.

[quasi yacht]

do you want ss or not?

[shell yacht]

except these were all wrong examples

[grim loom]

Yeah but hope TC regard that we're alive .

[sage glade]

damn boi, how many days does it take to tweet merry christmas

[haughty brook]

Did mossbag assigned void to someone else apart from the vessels?

[wheat sail]

I think a lot of drama could be avoided if TC saw a big event was super hyped for SS then TC can just say it won't show up?

[shell yacht]

what

[quasi yacht]

idk ask them

[opaque sigil]

If they didn't think they had a living audience they probably wouldn't be making the game for the audience to play

[shell yacht]

[quasi yacht]

theyre probably rlly stressed

[lost coyote]

some people in this sub seem to act like we either get silksong made or we get a tweet from tc and there is no in between

not sub sorry my brain is mush

[shell yacht]

redditor spotted

[wheat sail]

1 Tweet made = 1 month delay

[small goblet]

well idk "happy holidays" took me around 2 seconds to write

[stark estuary]

Sumwan, Mola, Serr, and everyone else who has contributed a huge amount of time and effort to making the Lore Archives into what they are today:

[sage glade]

agree

[tame widget]

That's a long arsh tweet to take one month

[serene chasm]

Or spending time with their family and not caring to tweet out happy holidays to so rabid fans

[marsh ibex]

CCmaci?

[quasi yacht]

its called stress

[grim loom]

Bz TC communication sucks

[marsh ibex]

literally everyone who did shit lorewize

[wheat sail]

Everyone has stress..

[opaque sigil]

A period of silence during development is totally normal

[marsh ibex]

but no one guy popularized it and now he’s the only contributor

[stark estuary]

Yeah Vessel cloaks are inherited from WL and Salubra is high on lotus juice

[shell yacht]

ccmaci is clickbait and ive yet to see them improve

[quasi yacht]

obviously not you because you dont know how bad stress is

[opaque sigil]

Either it's a double standard or you should be kicking and screaming about pretty much every AAA dev too

[marsh ibex]

as are you

[wheat sail]

??

[small goblet]

that's why i wrote "almost"

[serene chasm]

I wouldnt wish you guys happy holidays if I were them. Y'all suck

[stark estuary]

Except me. I'm cool.

[quasi yacht]

brave

[stable quiver]

I wonder what TC is adding to SS, i thought they were almost done, didn't someone say that in the discord a while back?

[opaque sigil]

Nobody said that

[wheat sail]

Saying I don't have stress .. ok nice argument?

[quasi yacht]

i think so

[marsh ibex]

they didn’t say that

[stable quiver]

ok

[marsh ibex]

It was a hypothetical statement

[shell yacht]

i.. i dont think theres hope for cc

[sage glade]

my thoughts exactly. it's fun to mess with ppl of both sides

[marsh ibex]

from Leth

[small goblet]

greg said something like this

[lost coyote]

they're adding a big room full of dancing elderbugs

[opaque sigil]

He didn't

[stable quiver]

that would be dope

[compact stag]

of course

[marsh ibex]

Graig said he thinks

ugh

[opaque sigil]

Not even

Graig said nothing about the proximity (or supposed proximity) of completion

[quasi yacht]

and matpat lol

[small goblet]

well he said he thinks ss should be done by now, not big of a deal

[haughty brook]

Is he that bad? Granted I only saw his abyss video.

[opaque sigil]

Nope

[eager orbit]

I don't trust a word graig says

[serene chasm]

Good

[lost coyote]

im 93% sure graig said silksong is done and it is out right now

[stark estuary]

Oh yeah MatPat is really good, I really like his FNAF videos.

[quasi yacht]

his hk video wa the best

[stark estuary]

No

[sage glade]

99% attempts at being funny, 1% actual theory

[marsh ibex]

I think he made a video about the haze in emilitia and salubra’s room, saying they were both on drugs

[opaque sigil]

He said he thought SS was originally expected to have been out by now (which it probably was, since it was originally a dlc and then a smaller game prior to expanding to the scope it is now) but TC kept building beyond the original scope

[shell yacht]

@haughty brook this is apparently something he said

[wheat sail]

I think matpat was stressed

[quasi yacht]

ok cool

[quasi yacht]

certainly was after the video cam out

[eager orbit]

I haven't watched a matpat video since 2015

[stark estuary]

I watched one yesterday

[lost coyote]

I dont think this is even that groundbreaking, hollow knight was originally planned for 2015 but their scope kept expanding which is exactly the situation right now so this is just what TC do and I'm down for it

[opaque sigil]

It isn't groundbreaking

Not in the least

[serene chasm]

Are you trying to get people on topic, discount joker?

[stark estuary]

Carmelita

Carmelita is cool I agree

[lost coyote]

caramel eater

[stark estuary]

Thank you JoOoker

[serene chasm]

She is my favourite character so far

[stable quiver]

I like Shakra

[eager orbit]

I am reading JoOoker in my head like a ghost is saying it

[quasi yacht]

is that the queen ant boss?

[sage glade]

ant waifu

[stark estuary]

no

[quasi yacht]

lol

[grim loom]

Yeah

[marsh ibex]

I am ignored

[haughty brook]

Well thats...something. Its one of those "overthinking" galaxy brain crazy takes rather than the more simple conclusion than "they laugh becuase they are excentric characters"

[sage glade]

hi ignored

[lost coyote]

why does she have buzzsaw hands team cherry have an unhealthy obsession with buzzsaws

[grim loom]

Why not ?

[grim loom]

Yeah

[quasi yacht]

ptsd

[stable quiver]

i think they are blades that she is spinning really fast

[stark estuary]

good

[serene chasm]

No reason. I was just wondering if that was your motive. I commend it

[eager orbit]

every ant is an ant waifu

[quasi yacht]

true

[marsh ibex]

not every spinning weapon is a buzzsaw

[lost coyote]

yes it is

[prime elk]

doubt

[coarse leaf]

i hate ants

[quasi yacht]

hahaha

[sage glade]

you ever seen those ants whose sole purpose is to be a door?

[quasi yacht]

is that its head?

[sage glade]

yeah it is

[lost coyote]

do you guys think grubfather will make a return as a boss in silksong

[grim loom]

Photoshop?

[sage glade]

hole in a branch

[quasi yacht]

looks like a hobbit hole

[sage glade]

it's a real species. here's an article. has weird pictures so be warned
https://www.antwiki.org/wiki/Phragmosis

[eager orbit]

top tier waifu material

[sinful flare]

What are you gonna do, enter its brain?

[trim estuary]

This is probably going to be my second favorite boss

[grim loom]

The first ?

[lost coyote]

my favorite will be trobio he screams out his name

dung defender vibes from him

[lusty ingot]

Correct

[sage glade]

needlemaster hjormur is gonna be my favourite

[trim estuary]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586931790208434203/910622667558764584/latest.png

[grim loom]

Me toooooo

[quasi yacht]

the background looks like coloseum of fools

[stoic iron]

is she an ant?

[quasi yacht]

yes

chakra looks sick

[lost coyote]

chakra isnt as badass as cornifer tho

[stoic iron]

chakra looks like a wasp to me

[grim loom]

I wish TC make a huge deadly dark spider

[quasi yacht]

huntress

[grim loom]

And more spiders and moooore

[stable quiver]

could be, but i don't think she flys

[lusty ingot]

I believe so

[stoic iron]

do we know if it has a name?

[stable quiver]

Huntress

[quasi yacht]

the huntress

[lost coyote]

carmelita is queen elizant from bug fables

[grim loom]

Guys could we watch species other than ants &bugs in SS? Like snakes 🐍

[quasi yacht]

is there gonna be a mister mushroom game?

[sinful flare]

Crabs

[sage glade]

she's go to be related to the mantis tribe

[stable quiver]

that would be cool

[sage glade]

like cmon, she has those bracelets that elder hu had and also looks similar to them. Her had is similar to the head of the small flying bugs in the mantis village

[stable quiver]

hopefully we can fight her, like a friendly dual or something

[quasi yacht]

imagine a cornifer fight

[haughty brook]

Her dad...?

[sage glade]

head i meant

[quasi yacht]

maybe shes creating maps to find her dad

[haughty brook]

I think TC said Shakra is searching for his lost master.

[coarse leaf]

sounds interesting but not sure how the story would even lead up to that

I think an Iselda fight would be much more probable

If they're even included in SS

[lusty ingot]

Snails, crabs and robots

[quasi yacht]

she did say in her dream dialogue that she used to be a warrior

[coarse leaf]

I'm aware

[marsh ibex]

@lusty ingot we see snails in HK kekw

snail shamans

that’s more lemm than a snail

[sinful flare]

Therefore using snail emoji in hk discussions is valid because there are snails in the game

[lusty ingot]

Ah. Right

[wary copper]

i like the guy in the 2nd photo

[sage glade]

i don't think they're crabs. they seem to be wearing shells of dead bugs

[lusty ingot]

My bad

[trim estuary]

Isn’t Shakra female

[bright cove]

there's also plants and mushrooms

[stable quiver]

yes

[haughty brook]

Yeah, goofed there lol

[lusty ingot]

Also is no one talking aboug the jolliest bug in game?

[brittle garnet]

I can't wait to buy from her(?)

[sage glade]

is that the eyes or even tinier arms

[tame widget]

Now I can't unsee it

[sinful flare]

No

[sage glade]

welcome

[quasi yacht]

who is that?

[brittle garnet]

no, we don't. The password to her reveal riddle was "huntress" but we don't have confirmation if this is actually her name

[wary copper]

the jolly bug

[digital glen]

Today we are analyzing the Silksong Reveal Trailer 0:20 / 2:09

[sinful flare]

Hornet shaws

[wary copper]

we know hornet is there

[bright cove]

adidas

[sinful flare]

Truly. It's a terrifying moment when hornet shaws

[tame widget]

Why is there chains tho?

[digital glen]

Actually here she goes: GARANA!

[brittle garnet]

there are chains like, everywhere

[sinful flare]

To hold the bridge

[brittle garnet]

seems to be a recurring motif

[wary copper]

hollow knight likes chains

[tame widget]

I'm speaking about the others chains

[marsh ibex]

Chains are all over the kingdom, in many shots

[wary copper]

they look cool

[digital glen]

Yeah tha bridge is one safe hazard

[sinful flare]

Maybe they are to hold the kingdom ..

[tame widget]

Also the entrance to the citadel look like it's in a tree

[digital glen]

Oh yeah, there chains going down

[haughty brook]

I think almost all bridges in the HK world is a safety hazard.

[tame widget]

except the bridge in Dirthmouth

[quasi yacht]

thats because it so trash it collapsed

[brittle garnet]

I think this conclusion that so many people have about there being a tree is really funny

roots don't have to mean tree

[tame widget]

But what other plants have thick roots?

[brittle garnet]

any that TC could come up with

but vines and shrubs do

HK is not set in our world so real life biology doesn't have to apply

[quasi yacht]

oh yeah

[coarse leaf]

only old places though

[marsh ibex]

assumption

[coarse leaf]

Chains are there so old places dont collapse iirc

[shell yacht]

looks really crazy that the fossilised layers that make up HK reach as far as this border which is immediately met by foreign greenery

[coarse leaf]

wouldnt make sense to have chains in city of tears

[sage glade]

we're on day 20 already

[tame widget]

only 109 more to go

[brittle garnet]

we mean in Pharloom

there are chains in a lot of places in Pharloom

[marsh ibex]

They’re literally everywhere

[coarse leaf]

I assume they're all fairly old places though

[brittle garnet]

i dunno, one of them is an industrial complex

[trim estuary]

Hornet becomes the Silk Lord

[coarse leaf]

Or maybe pharloom is super-duper underground

[tame widget]

But why is there chains everywhere? Are they supporting bells or somethings?

[quasi yacht]

well hornet did fall a long way

[coarse leaf]

yeah

[brittle garnet]

we've seen chains in every area so far except for Moss Grotto and Ant area

[coarse leaf]

who's just placing these chains everywhere, chainbug?

"today I spent my lovely day placing chains in the citadel"

[brittle garnet]

the chains don't all serve the same purpose, but there are a lot of chains hanging from ceilings

[tame widget]

Menderbugs in Pharloom

[trim estuary]

Probably supporting bells or holding things up
Maybe Deep Docks is a super haphazardly made area only supported by chains which leads to a chase sequence so the the Golem?

[eager orbit]

can't wait to kill a whole new kingdoms menderbugs

[brittle garnet]

some of them just end in nothing, too

[lusty ingot]

The Shop keeper off to the side

[quasi yacht]

ah

[trim estuary]

There are floating bells on the left

[tame widget]

either that or really thin silk strings support them

Or just forgot back then

[rocky jewel]

I saw in an article that last January they said the game went in final development and into testing. Not sure how credible the article is though.

[wary copper]

magic bells

[lusty ingot]

Yeah there are 2 more to the side of it

[trim estuary]

Non credible

[brittle garnet]

it's false

[trim estuary]

That was taken from a theoretical Leth said

[velvet ruin]

Silksong seems much more full of life than HK

[brittle garnet]

yeah

[coarse leaf]

yeah, it's so vivid

[lusty ingot]

Isnt it because its a prequel

[wary copper]

it got alot of plants

[coarse leaf]

no

[lusty ingot]

Wait what

[marsh ibex]

we don’t know

[trim estuary]

What did you just say?

[brittle garnet]

Silksong takes place in an entirely different place, far away

[velvet ruin]

It's set in a different place so it might just be that place is not as ruined as Hallownest

[coarse leaf]

I think silksong happens after embrace the void

[marsh ibex]

and so it begins

[tame widget]

We will either know if it's a prequel or a sequel, or just pull out a It's in an alternate timeline but I doubt

[brittle garnet]

I think we'll never know, even after it releases

[trim estuary]

No ending is canon, but they could choose to follow a single ending

[stable quiver]

well that was last year, how long is playtesting phase?

[coarse leaf]

yeah its all speculation

[brittle garnet]

that was not true, so it doesn't matter

[lusty ingot]

Yeah but it isnt at the same time as Hk so im not sure

[stable quiver]

how long are playtesting phases normally?

[tame widget]

• Silksong is big, but not so big it take 1 year to playtest

[brittle garnet]

it's really impossible to determine

[coarse leaf]

It really depends on the game a lot

you unfortunately can't accurately determine the length of playtesting reliably

[stable quiver]

oh ok

[brittle garnet]

game development is a very convoluted, complex and non-linear process

you really can't predict a lot

[eager orbit]

that being said it will definitely be released tomorrow right

[coarse leaf]

Tomorrow for sure...

[brittle garnet]

how I wish it did

[stable quiver]

isn't the Nintendo Direct happening this month, so maybe we will get some news from that

[coral glacier]

Copium

[lusty ingot]

Cross your fingers

[brittle garnet]

we will never get news at a direct

[tame widget]

We don't know if there's a Nintendo Direct this month

[coarse leaf]

[brittle garnet]

even if there was, there will never be silksong news in a direct
UNLESS
It's the release date

[royal wolf]

when is the direct?

[serene chasm]

we should ban nintendo directs here

[coarse leaf]

most probably, or next month

[brittle garnet]

not confirmed to even happen

[royal wolf]

lmao

[coarse leaf]

accurate pfp

[brittle garnet]

just a rumour/guess

[coarse leaf]

????? theres always a Direct on February or January

[wary copper]

i dont watch nintendo direct

[coarse leaf]

we will never get silksong news though

[eager orbit]

just remember this
assuming that at some point in the future team cherry does release silksong, then the probability of it being released on any given day slightly increases every day that we have no news. So even though there probably won't be news tomorrow, there's a slightly higher chance of their being news the day after tomorrow.

[brittle garnet]

probability/chance is a buzzword

when applied to real life single-time events

[wary copper]

or maybe it'll just get released randomly someday

[tame widget]

Me neither but why, Silksong make me consume unhealthy amount of Hopium to make me watch them

[lost coyote]

I watch Nintendo directs anyway

silksong would be a lovely bonus if I saw it in one

[mint valve]

Question: can people like mods and admins see my messages to bots?

[eager orbit]

No

[lost coyote]

why would you message a bot

[wary copper]

idc much for nintendo stuff and cant be bothered to watch it just for unlikely silksong news
not like im that desperate for silksong anyway

[eager orbit]

the only way someone would be able to see that is if they ran the bot and logged every single message for some reason, which they most likely don't

[mint valve]

aw man. I hoped someone could because I made some good jokes there

It feels great to talk/type again

oh yea I forgot

[steady raven]

Every time there's a direct it drives up the price of hopium by 10%

[eager orbit]

that was mysterious

[mint valve]

Day 5 on discord. any silksong

[coarse leaf]

that h is crucial

[eager orbit]

also copium, don't forget copium

[tame widget]

I know what Hopium is, but Copium?

[wary copper]

silksongium

[coarse leaf]

it's from the word "cope"

[mint valve]

A combination of cope and opium I think.

[eager orbit]

it's good to have around for when you get no news

[lost coyote]

they will announce a 2 hour long silksong direct that is just 2 hours of ari gibson talking about buying a sandwich

[hollow oracle]

yo whats the february gang called?

[wary copper]

febuary gang

i guess

[coarse leaf]

🤡 gang

[mint valve]

me

[tame widget]

then followed by 15 minutes of ASMR sandwich consumption

[hollow oracle]

Thanks 🤡

[wary copper]

hello feburary gang

[vivid belfry]

Next update will probably be release date, and it will either happen on an important date or an unimportant one

[tame widget]

One day folks, one day the clowners will be clowneds

[lost coyote]

it will definitely happen on an unimportant date out of nowhere

[mint valve]

Hopefully theres news this year ( unlike last year )

[tame widget]

like January 29th

[hollow oracle]

There will be a day where everyone has clown make up and everything is in shambles because its been like 3 years without news

[wary copper]

i bet it'll be somewhere between 10 and 20th of feburary

[hollow oracle]

and then it just releases

[turbid grove]

do you guys think the game will release this year

[tame widget]

*2 years, Edge count as news

[tame widget]

yes

[wary copper]

i also bet for somewhere in late march or early april

[surreal owl]

Idk what it is, but I'm betting yes

[lost coyote]

if I were team cherry I would do a blog post on February 1st telling everyone that the silksong release date is Feburary 1st 2023

[hollow oracle]

I would be happy with that

[mint valve]

Hopefully

[turbid grove]

same, at first I wasnt sure, but after they changed the games release date on youtube I was certain it would be this year

unless there are any unforeseen delays

[surreal owl]

Yeah that was Sus to me

[lost coyote]

I'm like 90% sure itll be this year

[surreal owl]

Guys I used the funny word

[lost coyote]

it also just makes sense

[signal crag]

the 2022 thing on youtube it's just an automatic thing

[mint valve]

It's almost been 3 years since announcement trailer and an average development time is 3 years for an indie game so the stars are alining

[surreal owl]

No. Please. Let me believe in one thing..please

[mint valve]

yea

[wary copper]

maybe it'll be 4 years for this one

[surreal owl]

NOOOOOO

[signal crag]

you know damn well believing in this server rarely pays off

[turbid grove]

yea, i have a strong feeling it will release in feb, but im also trying to think of the price, tbf i dont mind whatever price it is im just trying to figure out how much I should save

[lost coyote]

someday it will

[wary copper]

4 is still not never so keep your hopes up grub

[mint valve]

rarely not never

[signal crag]

likely the same as HK

[steady raven]

Please excuse me while I spam laughing emojis until the mods ban me

[coarse leaf]

prob 15 - 30 bucks

[vivid belfry]

I think if there were a Feb release, it would have been teased before they went on holiday break

[alpine crane]

day 3 of the new year waiting for silksong news

[vivid belfry]

But I can see a February release announcement

[surreal owl]

But maybe someday, I'll get something right and I'll be able say "Told you guys

[lost coyote]

I think theyll release the game in 5 days

[opaque sigil]

Eh, only if the date was determined by then

[signal crag]

Grover, everyone knows Silksong can only be announced 2 weeks before it's out
that's the rule

[lost coyote]

they could drop a release date at any time honestly

[tame widget]

Both of us will laugh at the one who weren't believing

[uncut citrus]

theres alot of diffrent thing that makes it not be "average" so ehhh that really doesnt mean anything

[coarse leaf]

that's why silksong will release tomorrow

[turbid grove]

I feel like team cherry massively undersells their products, hollowknight to me should have been worth around 30$ but it was only 15$

[coarse leaf]

same

[vivid belfry]

Yeah yeah I know about the 2 weeks rule, but it's not unreasonable to think think would want to give more advance for a game with more hype around it

[lost coyote]

they said they priced it that way so that as many people as possible could experience their game

[vivid belfry]

HK didn't have a reputation when it was released

[coarse leaf]

honestly it's the only successful game that I think is still underrated

[mint valve]

team cherry hired people to help with production like Jack vine I think

[small goblet]

jack*

[lost coyote]

JACK vine

the disrespect

[signal crag]

underrated in what way?

[coarse leaf]

As in, not enough people have appreciated it

[ocean mulch]

Jon Vine, Wallace Pellen, Ariano Gibson

[turbid grove]

im really excited to see the quality of silksong, I feel like it will be a massive upgrade in quality compared to hollowknight

[lost coyote]

Tome Charry

[signal crag]

dude, HK was referenced in two disney animated series
amazing sales and amazing reviews
to me this DOESN'T looks like an underrated game

[turbid grove]

wait fr? what series

[coarse leaf]

that's why I said " it's the only successful game that I think is still underrated"

[steady raven]

Christianity lark

[pale lion]

amphibia and the owl house

[coarse leaf]

That was my whole point 💀

[mint valve]

I think silksong speed runs will be like 4 hours long if hype is true

[lost coyote]

hollow knight was referenced in bug fables so theres that 🤷‍♂️

[signal crag]

that sounds appropriate

[coarse leaf]

it was referenced in every park as well

[turbid grove]

compared to popular games like minecraft, or fortnite, I feel like hollowknight is underrated

[coarse leaf]

the benches are a reference

[mint valve]

has everyone seen mossbags videos

[serene chasm]

who?

[ocean mulch]

Hollow Knight isn't Minecraft or Fortnite level LMAO

[signal crag]

just because it's not crazy popular as those games, doesn't mean it's underrated

[coral glacier]

Yes

[tropic mica]

Which one?

[coarse leaf]

which one

[coarse leaf]

It's underrated to me

[wary copper]

we're just a community about bug game stay humble

[lost coyote]

video(s) plural guys

[turbid grove]

that is true

[signal crag]

HK is probably in one of the luckiest positions in could be

[ocean mulch]

Very luck

Much position

[lost coyote]

true if silksong is really good it could rocket hollow knight even further than it already is

[coarse leaf]

You should probably move to #hk-discussion

[signal crag]

very good appraise all around
very good sales for just a game made by 3 people with a modest budget
and popular enough that most people in the sector knows about it, but not TOO much that it becomes mainstream and attracts some unwanted attention

[turbid grove]

yeah, it certainly is in a great spot to keep creating more games

[wary copper]

we dont want those people just yet

[lost coyote]

TC said they're done with HK after silksong I'm pretty sure

[turbid grove]

but- what about our beloved zote boat prequel

[signal crag]

they didn't specify if it would be their last HK game
just that their next project will be something else

[tame widget]

Fearless Fox

[coarse leaf]

I think it would be nice if TC added dlc for more playable characters

[signal crag]

but in any case, i wouldn't expect another HK for quite some time anyway

[mint valve]

they said after the god master pack dropped they thought of doing a sequal in ten years.

[coarse leaf]

imagine a 2 hour long oneshot where you play as the hollow knight or iselda

[tame widget]

After Fearless Fox then :trollface:

[signal crag]

without knowing better, i would guess that was a joke

[turbid grove]

I was kind of hoping that silksong would last them a couple of years, with DLCs and constant updates, at least until 2025 or something, but in the end its their decision

[tame widget]

The hype will be dead way before 2025

[mint valve]

I think there too invested in HK world to stop making games in this universe about this series

[opaque sigil]

content updates

[coral glacier]

Lets hope the next game after SS is how zote got his mecha suit

[turbid grove]

not if content updates keep getting released

[lost coyote]

I think they just wanna release silksong as a finished product, they didnt wanna do the content packs for hollow knight they only did then because they ran out of budget and time to finish them for 2017

[signal crag]

they are Team Cherry, not Hollow Knight Team

[opaque sigil]

Nah, they're actively planning the next game, which is not a hollow knight game

[coarse leaf]

disagree

[tame widget]

we're not there yet, you can't predict

[signal crag]

it could be "Fearless Fox", or at least that's the most we know about

[coarse leaf]

We can look at hk however

not to mention there's an already existing playerbase

[empty trench]

So do you guys think the Gog think is important

[signal crag]

nah

[coral glacier]

We might get hunger knight 2

[lost coyote]

no probably not

[tame widget]

Hollow Knight was 3 years tho, with Kickstarter updates

[wary copper]

what abt the hollow knight ppl

[signal crag]

likely a common update for many games at once

[mint valve]

Because SS would have already been and 100% completed by then that it gets boring

[empty trench]

Not it

[turbid grove]

oh, I mean, I guess I wouldn't mind if TC moved onto another franchise, but I really hope that they dont stop the HK franchise all together, im sure everyone loves the characters, music and artstyle

[empty trench]

The 2022 thing on Gog

[lost coyote]

unless silksong is so big that we're still trying to 100% it by then

[mint valve]

thats so much content and that gets me hype

[opaque sigil]

Better to just be done with the franchise than try to draw it out

[tropic mica]

How do we know that they are planning their next game, and if that is so, would that mean ss is close if they are putting energy in their next project?

[signal crag]

mhm?
just for Silksong, you say?

[lost coyote]

I was joking but 3 years of content would be p cool

[coral glacier]

I hope we get godhome in ss

[tame widget]

Silksong is so big now the max completition will be 175%

[nimble radish]

oh here we go