#sk-discussion
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Nah, it's all on dollars.
same. the thing we paid in was our soul probably 
I'll take free stuff from them anytime, I will never ever buy anything there
WHICH.... Makes like 5 dollar games cost like 650 pesos.
anyone know how high ss went in the top wishlist ranking in steam?
A dollar is 100 pesos and then you have to pay an extra 30% price fee
15 i think was the highest i saw
I think it was third at some point, it's fourth now
wdym, it's at 4th rn
bro
Wouldn't you say it's more like 175 or 200?
yo i dont use steam 
i only see these rankings when yall post them
175 is what a normal person would buy for in a bank
I mean, without the fee.... Then if you add the fee and other type dollars yeah.
what even is this, why is it 3rd 

It's Party Animals. Can't you read?
I'm more hyped for Party Animals than for Silksong to be honest
Like, it's Party Animals
party animals is the great mystery of the steam wishlists
I don't think this is the place to discuss Party Animals
i feel enlightened 
Party Animals is a multiplayer physics-based brawler/party game developed by Recreate Games and published by Source Technology. The game is scheduled to be released for Microsoft Windows at an unannounced date. A demo version of the game was available as a free trial from June 16, …
So.... Fall Guys 2?
it's like a mix between fall guys and gang beasts
eldinring might fall off soon since its out i guess
wtf is party animal and whys it do high
I'll never understand those games, I have no friends.
Chad Singleplayer games enjoyer. 

sus
That's the most abrasive thing I've seen today, congrats
And it's not even the most abrasive thing I've ever posted!
abrasus
And i don't even know what abrasive mea
it means, rough, course, or irritating
like sand
and it gets everywhere
sandpaper and iron files
In this case it's like having sand shoved into my eyes
Ugh
What an abrasive matter
Sand
Doesn’t it has something to do with like burning ?
yummy
please do not CONSUME asbestos, it wont make you fireproof
Please go eat grass
vegans be like
literally sheep
Please go chew a cow
carnivores be like
My guess is because Part Animals is made by Chinese devs so it will be or is really big in China
🤖
team cherry released new merch. perhaps hinting the release of ||new merch||?? 🤨 🤨 🤨
😔
bad meme
copium and clownkin are both trash memes
Get better memes 
The correct way of saying it is:
cope + mald + seethe + cope + ratio
copium copium 
tammo the screenshot will get crustier every time you screenshot it
- you fell off
That's fine. It'd be a better meme than copium and clownkin

Nice argument

Too bad you are coping 
How about you cope with these nuts



cope harder + ratio + blocked
tf is the black stuff on the edge
void
screen transitions
darkness

🐌
no

The EDGE magazine
Us expecting news at the game awards be like:

Your mum is a bad meme gottem jk
I can't wait for that image to just become pixels tomorrow
It's already pixels that's how computers work
bad meme
Your mom is a trash meme
Get better memes 
Okay fair point 
What's a mom
Actually make the image a vector
The screen you're viewing it on is still made of pixels
Well it uses pixels to display stuff
My monitor is exactly 2073600 pixels

Did you count
silksong is cool
The things we do waiting for silksong 
It was as simple as using a calculator 
naw bro u gotta count
A what now?
the more desperate you are the longer its gonna take bud
ive been forgetting about silksong lately and times been going fastetr
Lol you're getting old
the more you forget about silksong, the more you waste away as time moves faster.
Solution, never forget about silksong
hey guys
hi
what's up
The sky.
It's a fun game i've been playing it for 65 hours now
not me
Feeling pretty down?
yes I'm bored af
big government won’t stop me
hollow knight is trending again 
why is it trending
The internet works in mysterious ways
or maybe twitter is recommending topics of your interests
I dont know
We stan the king
I’m sad
be happy
Tutorial on how to be happy
Make your pfp an infinite loop
eat something sweet idk
leth’s been awfully quiet sus
Greetings Ara
leth, if you don’t say anything, you sus and news are amit this december
leth, if you say anything, you sus and news are amit this december
Do you think that silksong will be better or worse then hollow knight?
HK is on -50% sale but Idk if the twitter trend is related to that
its black friday, most things are on sale
Wait isn't it Saturday
checks calendar
blue saturday
Why is your game in Chinese? 
Chinese has evolved 
same
language is dum
but im british so im allowed to
Okay but British is a terrible language too
but french is worse
True
well okay 
the mod who banned sarart better not be looking at this channel right now 
make a language tier list
im not srs btw lol
I know
I had a dream of another silksong trailer
and was it awesome?
i guess not
Same here!
i remember how to say like 3 things in french
I don't like the french either
yeah Gehrnam is a great boss
languages suck
don't communicate

bro just use sign language
read your reply, and then my message again
what is the least spoken language?
sign language technically
I know dumass
yes lol
"I was merely pretending"
don't communicate
communication with only emotes is worse than anything else imo
🥺
so anyways... have you guys ever been featured on a daily SS news episode?
🤔
No
nah
Not famous enough 
because TBH I really want to host an episode and a lot of people I know from this server got featured
🥴
cant believe graig got featured before me 
just sounds kinda cool to me IDK
Yup
I don't use a mic...
Be me and use text-to-speech
Also, The dream was very weird
weve established here that communication sucks balls so thats fine
woah
I know you got featured that's why I brought it up
can you sign something for me
No
sad!
Blocked + ratioed
hopium
what does ratio even mean
nah
that the reply has more likes
idk but if someone has a bad opinion people will like the reply to it saying ratio

When people say "ratio," they're referring to the ratio of likes to dislikes or comments to likes on youtube videos and twitter posts. The more, usually negative, comments a twitter post has, the less trustworthy it is and people will take it less seriously. The youtube ratio is self explanatory.
same
who at youtube thought that would be a good idea
Aren't they still there? I still have them.
I use an extension that fetches the dislikes from countries that still have them
but I don't think that's going to stay for very long
they'll go eventually
see, youtube isn't about good ideas
it's about keeping everyone on google products not someone else's
Remember Youtube Rewind 
not well, I never payed attention to that stuff
funniest shit ive ever seen
pain.
I don't really understand this decision, and how much of a bad thing the dislikes number is, to be removed entirely. Having the possibility to say "I don't like this video" wasn't hurting anything, doesn't it ?
People will just express their disagreements in the comments anyway so in the end that does not even solve the supposed problem
don't say that they'll take the comments too
now it's just press "I like the video" or don't press it, and that's all. People having neutral opinion are categorized the same as negative ones
alot of the time dislikes are just trolling though, so its not completely innocent
Who cares whether the dislikes are there. If the title and thumbnail are interesting, click the video. If not, don't.
but what if you're looking for a tutorial on something
clickbait?
or care about quality in general
bad/not working tutorials usually get marked by high amounts of dislikes
Clicking on a bad video doesn't hurt you
Just click off the video if you change your mind
you don't see the dislikes before clicking anyway
clickbait can sometimes be a good reason to dislike a video, if you consider the clickbait bad enough
Or look in the comments. If a tutorial is bad people will probably say that in the comments
If you don't know whether you should keep watching how would randos with access to a button know better
if things stop working then the prior top comments will remain at the top for a while
videos marked as made for kids 
that too
dislikes can still be good to provide feedback though, u don't necessarily have to be an ass to dislike
Why assume random youtube users have more ability to evaluate a video's quality than you do
me when youtube slowly removes all functionality from the platform at a speed unnoticeable so that we boil like frogs
there's no real value to removing the dislike button for everyone either
Comments are a mandatory thing to express any kind of opinion, and mostly neutral or constructive criticism where you couldn't really hit a "I like it BUT there is some issues" button
if you can't handle it just turn it off??
its just a rating system, i check reviews for pretty much anything i buy, applies to yt too
Rating systems aren't infallible
youtube used to have a rate out of five system
it doesn't have to be infallible to be useful
pretty convenient though
Maybe not but it isn't a vital feature
it isn't, but it's still a pretty important one
getting "if you are getting cyberbullied just turn off the computer??" vibes
Not the same at all
"If you click on a video and decide you don't like it you don't have to watch the whole thing"
it doesn't need to be vital to be there, software is designed to be as user friendly as possible, not the bare minimum
creators are pinning comments under videos and saying that the likes on the comment represent dislikes
if only there were a clear way to indicate popular opinion on the video to make that easier 
i think rating out of five isn't precise enough to express an opinion entirely, If have had my own plateform I would prefer a comments only system (where you allow any kind of criticism and it's up to each creators to respond and/or remove them as they want). But it's probably just me
didn't people tend to rate things either at 1 star or 5?
Leaked Silksong image. For real.
doesn't that defeat the purpose of the 5 star rating system
it is
If you just evaluate whether something is worth watching based on popular opinion then idk what to say, that's a pretty dull way to live
And that's entirely besides the point I was making
that doesn't make it less valid
It makes it less relevant
no it doesn't
doesn't have to be based entirely, nice to take it into account though
Valid points that aren't relevant aren't useful
if they like to search for videos like that then the dislike button is somewhat vital
Bruh did you read the message Lori replied to
Then keep going back and following that conversation
real real?
yh?
"lots of people don't like this video, might not be worth my time"
Evidently you didn't follow the conversation
Of course.
not sure what i missed
The maxim of relevance is what
comments disabled
Its an easy way to see if a vid is of low quality, or is controversial
Low quality is subjective though
If you disliked it, it also validates you and makes you feel less crazy
no one cares about ease, things should be difficult
life is difficult, making things easy builds up a false understanding of the world
and is therefore evil
like real tv

literally any school
there's just no benefits to removing the dislike button, that's all we're saying
not only are there no benefits, it makes the platform worse
and if there was, I don't get which ones
biggest reason yt gave was to prevent "organised dislikes" basically what happened to yt rewind
so it's all about their own video, of course it is
the thing is, if you don't like that then you could just disable them, no?
instead of doing that for everyone
can you disable dislikes?
yh that'd probably be better then
but i guess some creators would still get harassed on other platforms if they disabled dislikes
good think youtube disabled them platform-wide :pkyes:
if everyone is harassed, no-one will be
my voice sounds so deep my gosh 😅 I think i sound different irl
it was really fun to make
so are you guys official reps of the tga cult?
Youre talking to the head honcho
what arms are you dealing
Hello TTacco 
hello johnny
Well i have some varieties like trench knives, trench clubs, improvised mallets and maces, brass knuckles, makeshift shivs, 84mm unguided recoiless single shot anti tank launchers, home made slings, etc
the sort of shit you can easily make in this shithole
you got any arms
^
I need to give this guy a hand you see
oh ask the chef for that, i dont deal with the bodies
i like the idea of SS being a shitty prison where all the filth resides in
Can i get some 84mm unguided recoiless single shot anti tank launchers
sorry bro just checked, were out of stock :/
we do have 14mm anti tank RIFLES, but its gonna cost you 499 SilkPoints™️ on the CherryShop
well i already took the role of arms dealer so i honestly dont know
how does one get silkpoints
could i be the chef 
im already looking for arms
Aw man, I'm 1 SilkPoints™️ short.
no discounts
I mean go for it
Looks like I'm gonna have to find a second hand one
oh ok, i wasnt even a part of the cult before 
Less than 2 weeks until TGA...
a week and 5 days
-12 days remain-
Imma take a couples of trench knives to throw them like Hornet does with that one tool, how much SilkPoints™️ ?
conversion rates are 1 SP ~ 10 croissants
For let’s say 12
S̶e̶l̷l̵ ̵y̸o̴u̶r̷ ̷s̴o̵u̷l̷ ̸t̷o̴ ̵T̷C̴ ̵f̵o̵r̶ ̵5̷0̷0̶ ̷S̷i̵l̸k̵P̷o̴i̸n̴t̷s̸ ̴n̸o̵w̷
thats a little cheap, no?
honestly I have a perfect Mindset
If we don't get news at TGA or in December it probably means they're close to finishing,
If we get news at TGA we get news in 12 days.
see were gonna win regardless
we backed them in a corner 😎
that's a lot of silk points
Worth 
if MMOs or any games that relies on MTX has taught me anything, its that 500 premium currency will only net you like 1 cosmetic set at most
Full hornet armor for only one soul 
oh shit, I'm gonna need more souls
Silksong releases with 10 different DLC cosmetics and content bundles that cost 5 bucks each 
500 premium currency will be enough for a rare item, but not for a set or higher rarity items 
Soul master be like 
procceds to kill half the capital
We don’t really know how many bugs there was tho but that’s still a lot of peeps
Yea, we don't know how stable the game is. 
Oh wait oops I’m talking about HK in #sk-discussion, that’s not good I need to go back to talking about selling soul to buy makeshift weapons
we're talking about the real tools here
i unironically wish for armored hornet set
who needs an orange jar, we have home made slings
I hope we can unlock cosmetics in the game. Customizing both our looks and builds would be so cool.
FashionSong
i want a tiny bowler hat for hornet
honestly the main issue is that the amount of sprite work theyll have to do
True
and you know TC doesnt take the "its non canon approach" to reasoning why her outfit suddenly turns back into vanilla during a cutscene
gotta have in game justification
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that works for cutscenes that are rendered real time
i want lace to die whilst hornet wears a tiny bowler hat
could you imagine if you could customize like one specific npc who asks for it
Lace isn't going to die she feels like someone that won't die
yeah, especially since the cutscenes are drawn
Tiso isn’t going to die they seems pretty strong
like you could give them certain materials and theyd make themselves clothes or something everytime you see them kinda like the mask maker
Cloth is also pretty strong why would she die? 
Quirrel we see many time and he seems pretty strong why would he die anyways
Cloth's character is certainly the type that you'd expect to die
especially given she's a backer character 
cloth and quirrel aren't bosses
if a boss survives the first battle chances are they're gonna be important later
Still quirrel is pretty important
unless they're just a boring refight with no additional attacks 
but lace is not going to be that
and he fulfils his role and then goes
Not like we had a lot of bosses who survived one fight, hornet doesn’t die but that’s just the one exemple we got, if they do more we’ll probably end up getting one who does die
lace will, sharpe probably will
And we need our amount of character death in the game 
Same with Seth
yeah Seth too
i hope we get multiple fights with seth, he looks like a fun boss
he's one I'm sure will ally with Hornet at some point
Oh god that « is typing » take all my phone screen length
Also, Trobbio most likely
put on compact mode 
ah trobbio, the comic relief character
Pretty sure that won’t change anything I meant length
inb4 he has a tragic story that the comic relief aspect is only a front for
those never visually affect tk from our perspective, cosmetics would very much do that
There can’t be that many characters that won’t die
At least one between Lace, Seth, Trobbio and sharp will die
If they don’t that mean hornet will die at the end and it’s a sequel
Hornet dying at the end would be 
arguably the first two endings in hk are fates worse than death
The only way to reach a good CD/CA ratio (characters deatth/characters alive) 
If no one of the other die I mean
a good ratio is when all the characters I like don't die
when is tga again
In too long 
is silksong out yet?
December 9th
?sspsa
Reminder: The latest news for both Hollow Knight and Silksong is in #hk-announcements.
Check the pinned messages for more information, including a FAQ. 
where did you get these dev notes
Seems legit
Hmm! Very interesting ... !
but its a prequel ||/s||
Imagine doing all that to get your « traditional strength » back but you die at the end anyways 
Probably the dev notes doc in lore archives
where are those from
Developers’ Notes Put together by ColdWhie & Sumwan This document contains notes from the developers of Hollow Knight found in the game’s files. Texts in gray are the entries in which the notes are found. Texts in black are the notes from the developers. Texts in blue are clarifications not adde...
Wdym it’s from Realdevnotes.com, everyone knows we can trust what Graig says 100%
my annual "thirst for silksong" is coming to me again and by annual i mean monthly
Same
Same, and by monthly I mean daily
hornet dies
it's a gameplay mechanic she has a health bar 
dies as in like a proper ending 
ah the sealed strangers and haunt no more right
Whan I select hollow knight in scarab the scarab just goes black how to fix it?
what?
uh
And wont load
bruh
Can someone help me fix it
i don't think that's silksong
you should probably go to #archived-modding-help for that
Ok
better shited
better shat
shited.
if hornet CANONICALLY dies (as in an ending) i will cry
why
Start crying then
Canonical Hornet death 
But fr tho TC does good character deaths so it probably wouldn't be bad
Like if Hornet does die in some endings it would probably make sense as the natural conclusion
yeah
Hornet does die
Kirb no
if hornet dies that's fine
I already explained this

In fact she MUST die
There is no other logical outcome, unless TC introduces interdimensional travel
Which is more likely than you may think!
Ahem, replying to this for later reference
wait what
Is this about sealed sibling? if so then nah, she dosent, but if your talking about something else thats VERY interesting and i wanna hear more
joke
Ive been away from this hallowed land too long
The bullet
Did you really think I was being serious
Ive gotten to the points where I throw my hands up and accept a theory as the only option, and it was for nearly this exact reason
🤨🤨🤨
There are two types of people
I can’t wait to hear the Silk Wyrm sing her beautiful song at the end of the game
Silk Wyrm 
Next thing we know, the game's gonna have a character called "The Silk Knight"
The Silk Song?
Sure why not. I could 100% see that.
Favorite movie lines
Not Knight as in the protagonist from HK, but a knight related to silk
So you’re telling me this whole thing was some sort of Silksong?
You telling me we some kind of Silksong?
That’s the good one
The real Silksong was the friends we made along the way.
This is like if Legend of Zelda was called “Master Sword”
It looks like you’ve turned into some sort of Hollow Knight
isn't Hornet the Silk Knight?
Hornet isn't a knight, so to speak.
well, SS steam page calls her a "Princess Knight"
she’s a motherfucker, get it right
She’s a princess protector
Snailed
Protecter
oh wait it was something else that called her a princess knight
I'm not sure anything called her a Princess Knight but I might be misremembering
it wasn't official, i just confused it
Will maybe she is a Hollow Knight since she’s void
Will maybe she is a Hollow Knight since she’s void
Simo know what’s up
Simo you cooked unit
bazed
Simo isn’t a government sheeple
Um she's screen transition duh
Simo knows the deep lore
Huh
But is she wearing a mask or is her head shaped like that
The lore they don't want you to know.
Am i wrong
The knight and THK are brothers
What an unfortunate, but iconic, headshape

Zote’s adopted
Myla is the radiance
I mean, you're kind of not wrong....kind of.
No, Zote is the PK's biological child and the Vessels are adopted
Matpat is that you?
🧰
No silly, the knight is the pale king
Zote is this Pale King
The Pale King had a drunken fling with the Fluke Mother and Zote was born
I am the Pale King.
WHAT
Did you die?
The truth is out

😱
thanks i hate it
That's not true, I'm the true and only Pale King.
Can confirm, equipping flukenest and speaking to the White Lady tells you this
What screenshot
Wait does Ss have a release date
?sspsa
Reminder: The latest news for both Hollow Knight and Silksong is in #hk-announcements.
Check the pinned messages for more information, including a FAQ. 
Thx

ched fine
ched young or you chive long enough to chee yourself checome the chillain
idk why I typed that it was physically painful
wai

i thought that was super meat boy

yo
listen up
goodknight Sharky 
sleep well

Nobody who goes to sleep at 4am sleeps well 
Unless they have night shift and got home early
imagine not having a healthy sleep schedule
Well from Sharky's comment, it doesnt sound like they work the night shift but just stayed up. But that is a fair assumption
Silksong announcements come when I sleep, so incorrect 
Go to sleep then
Timezones do be funni
We should all just set our clocks to ACT
Do not make me take the ACT again
You must. Its the only way SS will come out
Fine
We thank you for your sacrifice
Just kidding I’m going to sleep instead
ok have a nap. ZEN TAKE THE ACT!
Sleep well, big day tomorrow
Is silksong...real?
no
Alright, time to to pack it up boys
Are we ever real?
what if, this is all just a dream?
dont worry guys we’ll get a blog post in december… r-right guys? h-haha
no
yes. TC will do a blogpost after the SS announcement at TGA
Ok. so characters of HK are bugs and hornet is a spider who's mother wanted babies. Considering that herrah is a queen, and wanted babies similar to WL's urge to breed. Using that, we can theorize that multiple hornets were born, and all but one went to pharloom with the weavers. They are not talked about because no one remembers then exept hornet and she doesn't want anyone to know. basically, we will see hornets in SS.
This is all just speculation FYI
its wrong
I literally just said its speculation
its wrong speculation
ok
- Herrah did not have some urge to breed. She wanted a heir because her husband had died before the could have children, and Deepnest would be without an heir. Thats why she agreed to being a dreamer if PK gave her one
theres a reason hornet is the gendered child and not one of many gendered children. she is unique. herrah mightve only been able to carry one god child while the white lady is powerful enough to carry a bunch
It’s still wrong
Get owned by superior logic
git gud lol
yall are needlessly mean sometimes tbh
saying something's wrong isn't mean
sometimes? 
we take lore very seriously
yes
I missed the part where that's my problem
wow that was epic
The hivemind commands it

Just saw the final cut of a #thegameawards world premiere we have been working on with a developer for 2.5 years.
Truly honored we are entrusted to share this work with the world.
1409
Is this channel ever serious
hollow knight trilogy confirmed
Hungry knight 4??!????!???
this channel isn't serious its #sk-discussion
svery serious discussion
cant wait for tga even if ss doesn't show up there 
never watched tga
same, more because of breath of the wild sequel
I never watch. I just watch the trailers after
But now you must
hornet is made of screen transitions intensifies
The cult dictates it so
WHEN WAS SILKSONG ANNOUNCED
A year and 9 months ago
its a world premiere so silksong doesn't count anyways
Oh ok
new game that hasn't been announced yet, i hope its a nintendo game
Ok
Nintendo dont do much at TGA

That's unfortunate because that could actually realistically line up with a FE title 
nintondo
very sad indeed
FE is fire emblem right?
Yeah

I can’t wait for silksong
But you will
It's Silksong
You will wait
WE RIDE, TONIGHTTTTTTTTTTTT
GHOSTTTTT HORSESSSSS
that doesnt equate to 1000 days
anyways ye its probably been confirmed that isn't silksong
2 years and 9 months since the reveal
world premiere is for games that have yet to be announced. SS doesnt qualify. But that doesnt mean that it wont be ther
It's not Silksong since world premiere means something that hasn't been revealed yet and the public doesn't know about it.
Fuck, I didn't see Curly's above message
i said it right after
It's Silksong, doubters will doubt but believers know the truth.
Okay you vile beings, hand over the ss release date or I will raid your fridge.
Tomorrow. It's always tomorrow
Tomorrow is an invalid concept of time and does not fit the requirements of my urgent request.
Man I have way too many things I am waiting for atm.
XD
such as?
Oh all kinds of things. Game sequels, fanmade comics/fiction updates, upcoming movies and tvshows, mod expansions for certain games, CHRISTMAS.
heh, I meant specifically, but yeah thats good
yeah
healthier than some folks who say they only wait for silksong
Is this game stuck in dev hell?
no
I always try to find something to distract me, but then I have to patiently wait for the distractions to continue using even more distractions.
Are you suuuure?
yes
Hm
Is dev hell a thing I have never heard of?
Fair enough
means development for a game has been crippled in some way over years
usually ends with a game never getting released
hm sounds like ss alright
no not really
Nods
XD
They specifically said Covid hadn't affected them in an interview I'm pretty sure
games take time. confusing that for "dev hell" is wrong
SILKSONG IS AN ILLUSION TO GAIN UNECESSARY ATTENTION AAAAAAAAAAAAA
:|
jk tho don't get mad at me 😦 :L
im not
It doesnt really matter how long game takes to be made, it can still be in dev hell
I just hope hornet won't constantly shaw
Not mad just dad disappointed
Wanna hear something funny? My dad heard me playing hollow knight from across rooms and the most noticeable sounds were during the hornet battle. Now he calls her "The loud one."
dev hell implies the developers are struggling with focusing on the game
or are in some way being hindered
as far as we know they only have themselves to hold them back, and the playtesters I know have said TC works incredibly efficiently
That sounds like the essay I have to write right now that is due tomorrow, but nevermind that.
uh oh
He is going to enjoy you playing SS then.
haha
He actually played it after I did, and he says he is only considering playing ss after showing him the trailer where she just shouts everytime she does something.
SHAW


I hope it isnt
games take time, hard to believe I know, but its true
Yeah I know
didnt hollowknight take like 4 years?
I am sure the time it takes will be worth it in the end.
if so than its probably on track
I'm an smt fan lmao
a what?
Heard it was also taking long because they are not going to seperate it into dlc's
It's an rpg series
super mario trousers
Shin Megami Tensei
just wish that we got some news
It just feels like nothing has been going on with SS
like a release date for a release date
some news WOULD make it more tolerable of a wait XD
yeah but not at the expense of TC I wouldnt want them to burnout
I know, we should make some (fake)news for every second day.
to make it less painful.
Like, "Someone spilled their coffee on the computer and the game we were making that is a work in progress was not uploaded to the cloud so we have to start over."
I mean I don't care that much since im not that invested in this game, but it would be cool to know
yeah i heard they're using Chris Prat for voice acting
YEAHHHH
I am not good at taking jokes so I am just going to ask if that was one.
The game takes so long because they are adding 4 player online co-op, battleroyal mode..
no they would only ever have hugh jackman, they are Australian after all
lol ok
Also it takes time to carefully optimize the monetery gains from lootboxes.
what's that mean?
yeah the battle pass looks cool so far tho
Like to decide how much each lootbox gives in the game?
I might get silksong gold
To make the game fair?
There is also souls like system where another players can invade as Zote to attack you after every corner.
what
idk it does seem a bit pay to win rn with the new zote summoner class
If I don't see zote in ss I will complain.
red princess zoterina, you mean
He will be there, in every game over screen, mockin' you. 
And reciting precepts
ah yes
dies to a boss
precept whateverthefuck never lose
Precept something: Do not let enemy kill you, you idiot.
I mean, you cur.
Okay, I am going to leave now. It is 2 in the morning for me.
Bye-------------------------------------


no stay here and help me with my physics homework /j
It looks like the elderbugs are high fiving eachother after putting the knight to sleep
physics 
I would definitely appreciate a help 👀
What if the minds of the bugs in farloom is shaped by silk and hornet can use her needle and special technique that the she masters in the game (like the nail arts in hollow knight) to fix there minds from the song that is destroying the silk and maybe hornet is able to use this like the knight is able to use the dreamnail
yeah it was in the magazine where accordingly, when Ari draws something, its 98% getting into the game
very little is wasted
they dont just go "oh this is the enemy concept, lets iterate until we get it on the iteration we think is the best"
nah the moment he draws the concept art, hes scanning that shit into his computer and starts drawing it, iirc it takes like a day to fully flesh an enemy

It’s impressive stuff
ofc considering they also mentioned that enemy AI is getting the priority this time, iterations could change
see we literally have a playtester to confirm it
gg ez arguement won
now I can sleep soundly
Ari making an enimy looks like mask maker making masks
honestly betting on something this december
like not a shadow drop
but SOMETHING
theres gotta be
I'd settle for a "we're alive and working on Silksong" at this point
or TC goes the route of "well were already went through a year without news, i dont think we should release any further"
huh what was that
no need, the game awards will far exceed your expectations 
some guy met Ari in adelaide 2 months ago and had a bit of a chat
essentially "were doing fine, covid didnt affect us jack shit, and SS scope just got expanded compared to the original DLC sized version thats why its taking us long"
yeah that seems pretty reasonable
honestly 4+ years at the size of HK with all the budget they can use, i think is pretty normal
and there is still the matter of at least meeting the expectations that HK set for most players probably

im fine with waiting as long as ss doesnt join cyberpunk2077, battlefield. 2042, gta, etc.
i dont think team cherry would want to go a year without news
SS' advantage is that theyre not held by stakeholders/publishers unlike those ones
IIRC CP2077 internal shit went like this
Shareholders: "Is game ready?"
Management: "Is game ready?"
Developers: "Game is not ready"
Shareholders: "Game must be ready"
Management: "Game is ready"
and ofc you know, big benefit is TC isnt constantly advertising shit which ends up not getting fully accomplished by the end of it
afaik for SS, people are just literally asking for more HK with a new world to explore it and improved systems
Unless...
CP2077 was legit being crowned by the fans as GOTY 2021 RPG to end all RPGs before it was released
i mean not to say theres no SS fans like that, but CP2077's marketing eventually overinflated the majority's expectation
yeah i think thats why so many indie games are so well polished
theres not so much pressure from fans and shareholders
yeah and a HUGE thing as well is their small teams, theyve mentioned they wanted to keep their team small because it allows them A LOT of control of what should or shouldnt be for their game's vision
afaik the way corps work is that some guy asks for this thing, so that division now tells them to conceptualize those things and it makes the work a lot more less coupled with some inherent conflicts inside
I own 80% of @cerulean sable shares
cyberpunk on PC was actually really good, the base console versions were the atrocious ones
not really sharing now is it
Graig please all ive been getting is shitty knives and clubs
i cant even pass these as weapons
to arm the @hollow sedge obviously
So I have actually tested for a few bigger companies now
what else
Ya boy been diversifying his bonds
King
yeah there were a lot of arguements saying they shouldve left past gen consoles and just went with the next gen instead
Actually, big corps are fucking horrible
unsurprising
double king, love the expose
Never work for a big company. The testing is ok but the poor Devs get shit on hard
sad :/
im lucky the management i work on overall is nice 😎
I tested some mobile Games lmao
insert the usual 'AAA game bad indie game good'
how'd that go
oh which ones! I did a few mobile games too, but only really indie studios
But for one of the bigger guys in the field
i see another shigeru miyamoto quote i am gonna STAB someone
The other playtesters shat on the devs?
Anyway.. yeah it's just a machine no passion
there are 2 futures: one driven by passion and one by marketing
Compared with TC it's like night and day
A delayed is forever game, a rushed is eventually delayed
But you can tell TC has passion by simply playing the game
how do you even become a play tester for games, like are most playtesters just game developers with connections
im banning you
connections ez ez
You should send us a copy of the game to prove that graig
Yeah graig, you should :)
Legit I just found the studios tweeting about hosting a closed beta on their twitter and sent them a message
you'll find lots of things on twitter
Don't you mods have the secret ss release date
theres also an issue that some playtest offerings are scam right\
ok for real, we dont
I'm just lucky lol. Though turns out I'm pretty good at it
i seriously still fucking laugh at people who DMs us asking if we have insider info lmao
if i did, i wouldnt be here hyping for TGA now would I?
Now I have lead playtester for HK on my resume.. it opens doors in the field lol
that's just you gaslighting us, as you do
uhuh
fr i'm so happy for all you TC peeps
ttacco is a girlboss after all
you work/create from a place of passion, so the more doors opened to you, the better off the world is
what if graig is just lying, and hes tied in their basement forcing him to say nice things about them or hell get "it"
really curious, how much of your testing/QA is bug and mechanic testing vs open ended feedback on 'this was the emotional experience this this and that part of the game gave me dunno if that was your intention or not'
inb4 "Im not at liberty to say"

Thats kinda insulting towards all the game made by passionate people but that didnt nearly got as lucky as tc, like you gotta keep in mind tc is like the 1 in a thousand indie games that got popular because it's good and that passion doesnt always open you doors
Great question
Well... It depends on what is happening when I guess
But usually TC will make a chunk of something and then get us to test it. Initially give first impression feedback and bugs that we found
I might give some QoL feed back too
Then we run it into the ground over and over. Try and break shit
"So what do you think"
"Test Case #206
Scenario: Scene emotional impact
Expected Result: high emotional impact obtained
Actual Result/Feedback: 'lmao the music is too melodramatic lol'"
By the end in usually doing 112% (for HK) over and over
Make sure the patch is solid enough for release
Across all systems too
(if this is @ my comment I didn't mean to knock them at all! my sentiment isn't exclusive towards just TC, it's generally to anyone who works from passion, and TC just falls into that category and is the most relevant to the present discussion)
does it matter though, someone finds a bug or two and the first thing theyll say is that either the QA or Devs are lazy anyway
Not sure if you can answer this, but have the SS builds been less buggy than the HK builds?
Problem is I might do 1000 hours of testing in a month, but 1000 people will do that in an hour
i think thats the point graig is not at liberty tbh
i imagine that when youre in full pre-release 112% multiple times a week bug testing you gotta use the player character like a hammer and at that point youve been playing the game for so long so intently in a fundamentally different way from the intended play experience, at that point in the process it's hard to give feedback on the general play experience and emotional effects of gameplay
Once millions of people are playing they will find more bugs and stuff
Add me and suddenly it's double the testing
1+1 = 2 = 1*2
Also does this mean we can refute anyone that says "its probably on the testing phase now"
because technically testing always happens iteratively
1 @chilly nexus != 1Graig
Ayo is that graig, hi
I can't deny 
yes true
but i can dream
||jk, i am objectively so far away from your level and always will be, i do not possess your talents||
Also most bugs are known before release but couldn't be fixed in time. I'm taking about HK here. When TC basically had to push it out the door
It's like... Is this bug game breaking?? No. Ok we'll fix it when we can
Though thornwarp was actually completely unknown on release
That was a great one to see
what about absrad
Find bug
Realize no deadline
Try to fix bug
Gets a new idea
Fix bug
Add new feature
Find bug
Realize no deadline
/s
buggier than Hallownest
I like to imagine yall being like "theres no way they will find this bug, we will fix it at some point"
from how you've described it, being qa/testing on a small team sounds v similar to the kinda work and creative input that an editor might have in like, tabletop books
I never found that absrad bug... I was too good at the game by then to be pogoing up there like a noob 💋
(I should have found it sorry)
~~as if there's only one bug in AR
~~
can't believe this
when you were testing hollow knight on PC we're you using a keyboard/mouse or controller 🧐
if i booted up silksong and didnt meet any bugs in it id probably be pretty confused and upset
Are there gonna be microtransactions in silksong?
daddy. what? daddy. sorry. daddy.
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Playing a platformer with keyboard just doesn't feel right
ttacco where is the ss gun mod
got reminded of a game who tried to fix a potential bug on a quest but ended up completely breaking that quest completely making it impossible to complete. actual comedy
it feels right for HK since it doesnt use too much analog inputs anyway
Proof that controller is better than keyboard
its not like you need to slash in a 360 degree angle
Always has been
keyboard is just long controller
i did 112% with a keyboard, usually with platformers on PC i use a controller but idk it felt more natural with a keyboard for me
Tacco once my KS makes me money I'll hire you to make an AR15 mode for Roc
might be because its a 2D platformer instead of 3D but idk
whats hard with 8654 as your movement
yoooo can't wait for that
I can only play shooters with keyboard tbh, all other games like platformers or fighting games I have to use controller
ill do it for free graig
wtf ttacco refusing money
i played celeste with a keyboard fight me
i didnt make gun mod for the money, it was a message that needed to be sent
No I have respect for that

damn didn't know you were pro guns 😔
🤜
nerf guns tho
youre not even american
i dont wanna get political but... tbh even america's gun addiction is just weird at times 🥴
ill leave it at that
@cerulean sable you're fired
i think everybody outside of the us thinks that
i remember when i was in a toy shop and wanted to buy a nerf gun and my mom was like "you're 17"
so what? >:(
i just like them because of the tech revolving around gunpowder
guns are cool
which is why Silksong will eventually need to implement muzzle loaded muskets
Hollow knight doesnt guns because they would be too big for bugs
but america is way too obsessed with guns
in california the gun culture isnt really there, atleast in comparison to other states
Honestly it should, they got smokerocks, why tf arent they gonna make experimental tube shooters
idk i don't like the mass killing machines
hell dont even call it a firearm, call it a powder pipe or something
genocide is uncool
Need to create a new style, like steampunk but it's gunpowder punk
Everything works off explosions
the pistons 👀
thats quite a controversial statement 
steampunk i sleep
dieselpunk is where im at
Internal combustion engine punk
why
i know its a joke dumass 
i want ww1 soldiers wearing full plate armor, steampunk is overdone at this point tbh
I'm all sunpunk
amoguspunk?
Frostpunk was good I heard
or moonpunk, to be edgy
Silkpunk
it's so fucking wild to think about how actual knights existed to me for some reason
moonpunk could be an aesthetic actually. wait
The problem with ss gunmod is theres no suitable pun for it
silksgun
Ergo, it cant exist
aka Iron Harvest
Silksights
ttacco why do you know so many games
hey i was gonna name the update to Hollow Point GlockMaster at one point
glockmaster is funny
because mid tech games are my religion
get that neon cyberpunk shit out of my face
Glocks N Glory
Sightsong
also is that french soldiers
i really need to sleep cuz i've got an early morning meeting tmrw with the FDA but it was a pleasure! ||especially receiving the @ from Graig
||
its supposed to be Not Europe™️
iirc the factions are
Not Poland™️
Not Russia™️
Not Germany™️
aight night
yeah it does
you can't leave like that
Goodnight "notNazi"

