that's actually such a funny thought, bugs learning about the american civil war
#sk-discussion
dry valley
cerulean sable
relevant to hk i dunno
tribal merlin
this take lacks several aspects, like character scale on screen or the feeling of speed
cerulean sable
context was from the Battlefield 2042 thread
in regards to the jump suit
but thats about it
tribal merlin
I didn't play BF42
cerulean sable
neither do i
all i know so far with the FPS giants atm is
CoD Vanguard is literally just the previous CoD with a WW2 skin
BF42 is either too buggy or 1 step forward, 2 step backwards title
Halo is has a chance of getting their shit together and capitalize on the mess but the beta so far, while fun, is unoptimized
tribal merlin
my point is you could travel at the speed of light but if it doesn't feel fast it's pointless.
eg you're in a spaceship traveling at the speed of light but on screen you see a top down view of the solar system and you need 10 minutes to cross 5cm on screen
cerulean sable
that is true
disclaimer i neither agree or disagree with this guy, just wanted to hear your thoughts considering SS has this "Hornet is faster and larger, and were making a larger map to accommodate her" claim sticking to it
tribal merlin
I could see how that would feel a lot quicker paced than HK
edgy yarrow
cerulean sable
but yeah its not like SS is an open world game anyway with vast amount of spaces
edgy yarrow
hey guys (:
mental fjord
wen ss
tribal merlin
what matters is what happens on your screen, if Hornet crosses it in half the time the knight would then the game will feel faster, no matter how big Pharloom is
cerulean sable
yeah imagine if they zoomed it out (theoretically) further
stop spamming gifs thanks
edgy yarrow
i hate this world.
tribal merlin
ok imma have to go do some wurk 
cerulean sable
aight same
patent saddle
I bet when silksong in announced, this entire server is just gonna be filled with silksong memes
analog lily
me when beans will still survive trust me
copper knot
coarse leaf
Can't wait to see how this mechanic works, gonna be pretty intresting
upper sigil
suicide
copper knot
hornet gets her covid vaccine
coarse leaf
Lmao just realized it looks like she's stabbing herself
cerulean sable
coarse leaf
Am confused
copper knot
lifbold
upper sigil
drug injection
coarse leaf
You are a mod though so I won't question
cerulean sable
hornet can shoot lightning from her fingertips after injecting herself with lifeblood
cerulean sable
it looks like a lifeblood syringe...
coarse leaf
Oh right I'm stupid
cerulean sable
blue liquid
inside a needle
coarse leaf
Thanks for explaining though
sleek vortex
Can't wait to see how this mechanic works, gonna be pretty intresting
She’s can’t use soul so she uses lifeblood
fresh zodiac
i hope next year is the year it releases
cerulean sable
join the TGA group
cerulean sable
the "were hoping for SS related info at TGA or December in general" gang
fresh zodiac
OH THE GAME AWARDS
cerulean sable
finger guns
fresh zodiac
yeah who knows, is it in nov or dec
hollow sedge
my hype for the game awards is increasing... this aint good
fiery coral
Join us
fresh zodiac
if its god damn tlou2 im raging
hollow sedge
that was last year lol
fiery coral
don't know if you can give that award to the same game two years in a row
fresh zodiac
yea, whats like a horrible game this year
cerulean sable
i dont care about the awards i just want the new games
coarse leaf
same
fresh zodiac
can i become ss tga cult member #: 22?
hollow sedge
yeah most people watch it for the announcements and not the awards
i hope silksong is a nominee for the most anticipated games, we'll see in the morning
cerulean sable
done
fresh zodiac
when is tga this year
hollow sedge
dec 9
coarse leaf
9th of december
analog forge
if theres an award for the most anticipated game, silksong wins, no question
fresh zodiac
ah ok thanks
analog forge
what other games are even anticipated?
cerulean sable
honestly if i see SS there id be happy but like, AAA titles will win most anticipated lmao
hmmm
Forbidden West
Starfield
fresh zodiac
honestly if i see SS there id be happy but like, AAA titles will win most antici...
if there is, i lose my bet
cerulean sable
unless they count out games already nominated brefore
analog forge
are people actually excited for starfield?
cerulean sable
so Forbidden West is out of the window
fresh zodiac
and i have to draw a femboy of myself
analog forge
oh. duh, elden ring
hollow sedge
if they count out what was nominated before then silksong will probably be on it
analog forge
its upcoming and very anticipated
cerulean sable
i havent seen it myself but like, i feel like its gonna get nominated because its still an upcoming AAA game from Bethesda
coarse leaf
this?
hollow sedge
oh. duh, elden ring
elden ring won last year for most anticipated, i dont think they'll do it twice in a row
cerulean sable
games with close release dates often bump up the wishlists
analog forge
i still dont know why party animals is so high up
hollow sedge
im 99% sure breath of the wild sequel will win
hollow sedge
i still want silksong to be nominated, at least
cerulean sable
i dont expect an Indie game to be "worthy" of being in a pedestal
yeah definitely
i dont care about winning
a nomination is good enough
tight linden
What’s up silksongers
wraith fjord
guys, i just read that silksong will be released in 1st of february, what do u think about that?
primal fractal
if we are lucky
tight linden
I trust zero dates
If it did tho it would be the perfect month. My bday, Destiny The Witch Queen, Elden Ring, and Silksong
tawdry valley
guys, i just read that silksong will be released in 1st of february, what do u t...
It’s a “leaked” date from a company with no legitimate affiliation with TC. The date is a placeholder that may not have even been made by TC.
fresh zodiac
they also said the development is going good, but they have had set their thing high
primal fractal
just finished my last exam for the year, time to beat P5 hitless while blindfolded
fresh zodiac
If it did tho it would be the perfect month. My bday, Destiny The Witch Queen, E...
i hope witch queen aint a disaster
tawdry valley
It would also imply that Silksong is choosing to release on a Monday.
tight linden
If they fuck up Savathun I will be so pissed
fresh zodiac
If they fuck up Savathun I will be so pissed
big mommy hive
tight linden
If they fuck up Savathun I will be so pissed
Already pissed they made her want to get the light. It seems silly.
LETS GO FIRST TIME BEATING NKG SINCE 2020
Ez boss
cerulean sable
TGA = SS news
tight linden
Ew no
cerulean sable
your loss
tight linden
that’s not what I meant
TGA resistance group all the way. Ew for the concept of guessing when we will get news.
fresh zodiac
LETS GO FIRST TIME BEATING NKG SINCE 2020
the boss is hard, the music is the only thing keeping me going
tight linden
I don’t think it’s that’s bad. Only attack that hits me is the one where he throws fire down. I’m just really bad at dodging it.
fresh zodiac
my problem now is pure vessel
tight linden
Ok I don’t like bragging but pure vessel is definitely easier than NKG
They’ve gotta be my favorite boss. So satisfying
Man Royal Waterways if the Hollow Knight equivalent of the Dark Souls swamps
fresh zodiac
They’ve gotta be my favorite boss. So satisfying
yea, the music gives me dark souls vibes even tho i never played it
cerulean sable
at least waterways doesnt slow you down to 30% walk speed
they couldnt even be assed to give a rusted iron ring
tight linden
at least waterways doesnt slow you down to 30% walk speed
Imagine TC releases a fix for Waterways and you slowly lose masks when you swim in the water
cerulean sable
oh god i remember dropping into the water at one point in COT
normal token
PV is like a gentle dance
tight linden
PV is like a gentle dance
Yes!
cerulean sable
screamed "FuCK- no wait i dont take damage"
tight linden
Playing PV makes me shit and cry everytime so sad
carmine sapphire
Silksong will have a Fortnite Crossover
cerulean sable
then i realized the only reason you take damage in greenpath is cuz of the acid
analog forge
thats always a fun moment in any blind playthrough
the realization that water doesnt hurt
tight linden
My only blind moment was Kingdoms Edge 😭
cerulean sable
im so glad i picked this up without even reading the reviews lmao
tight linden
The curse of spoiling yourself before buying a game
cerulean sable
all i know is "ITS LIEK DARK SOUSL" and i liked the artstyle
so i bought it since it was like 4$ equiv
carmine sapphire
Guys this is #sk-discussion
tight linden
I got Dark Souls III for like 8 dollr
fresh zodiac
then i realized the only reason you take damage in greenpath is cuz of the acid
sprite
tight linden
Guys this is <#586931790208434203>
Yes very true 
☠️
cerulean sable
we kinda allow non SS disc to take place here because of the lack of activity
as long as you dont derail an on going SS disc its fine by us at this point
normal token
I remember thinking every time I died, the vessel got replaced by a clone of them
fresh zodiac
okay aniways i enjoy the news of silskong is very nmice
tight linden
Yeah Silksong hasn’t gotten news for 11 months we don’t need to talk exclusively about it
carmine sapphire
as long as you dont derail an on going SS disc its fine by us at this point
Damn
fresh zodiac
idk why but i do love the poem at the beginning of the game
tight linden
idk why but i do love the poem at the beginning of the game
I have it memorizing lmao. Never even tried just one day I was thinking about it and thought damn I know the whole thing
cerulean sable
11 months bro
they didnt update us mid year cuz they know its a bigger hype by TGA
fresh zodiac
11 months bro
they didnt update us mid year cuz they know its a bigger hype by...
all i want is a beautiful ambience like kingdoms edge of city of tears
normal token
I'm still surprised by lack of news on June though
tight linden
If you told my 2020 self the game wouldn’t be out by 2022 I would laugh and call you a Fights The Dark clone
cerulean sable
well get plenty of those areas most likely
normal token
Hey @tight linden game won't be out till 2022
tight linden
Hahah ok Fights the dark!
cerulean sable
"IT LOOKS FINISHED ALREADY" and other jokes you can tell yourself
tbf it DID look finished already
tight linden
Tbf now that I’m in game holy shit does Silksong look good
fresh zodiac
Hey <@436332046571274260> game won't be out till 2022
if its november its gon be hard to decide what to make a vidoe on for me, witch queen or ss
tight linden
Destiny is my brainrot I need some Silksong time
normal token
Silksong is taking a while because Ari never stopping enhancing every room
fresh zodiac
nvm february
cerulean sable
seriously tho they added those sick textures on Deep Dock
and the lava on the background is brighter
tight linden
Silksong is taking a while because Ari never stopping enhancing every room
Silk song will have a fully fledged day night cycle and weather
fresh zodiac
seriously tho they added those sick textures on Deep Dock
i saw the golem and went woof woof bark mode
cerulean sable
bruv
tight linden
i saw the golem and went woof woof bark mode
Makima?
hollow sedge
https://twitter.com/geoffkeighley/status/1460438154616340481 this makes me think it might not be a nominee for most anticipated
Twitter
dusty nimbus
and the lava on the background is brighter
It's so that we can die in style
normal token
I actually have not watched ss trailer in a while
cerulean sable
https://twitter.com/geoffkeighley/status/1460438154616340481 this makes me think...
were not aiming for a nomination, were aiming for news
tight linden
I haven’t watched it since like summer I should watch it again
normal token
The guy that sticks to walls is my new addiction
fresh zodiac
i mean its hard to nominate something thats not even done
dusty nimbus
were not aiming for a nomination, were aiming for news
We're aiming to obtain the game ideally
cerulean sable
that is the optimal route
hollow sedge
i thought the game awards only did announcements/first reveals for games
dusty nimbus
The guy that sticks to walls is my new addiction
You mean manspidder?
tight linden
i mean its hard to nominate something thats not even done
Reports say Silksong wins GOTY, despite not coming out. Critically acclaimed Game Tester Graig says “yeah it’s an ok game”.
normal token
You mean manspidder?
Nah, the human-spider
cerulean sable
Geoff said before that the announcement includes new games, dlcs, and existing games
"Btw to clarify Geoff said the show will have 40-50 games presented.
That includes - Released games with upcoming DLC - Games that have been already announced - New game announcements."
dusty nimbus
Nah, the human-spider
Really? Are you sure it isn't the homo sapiens-spider?
fresh zodiac
im gonna leave the conversation and just leave with, we will see if there are news
cerulean sable
oh misread what you meant
honestly tho i feel like theres a major release date, they can show it there
normal token
Anyways gonna rewatch ss trailer
tight linden
Tomorrow silkwromg shadowfrop guys!!!!!
Holy hell THK is actually hard because it’s so slow
cerulean sable
yeah you eventually reach a point where you overreact
and instead anticipate dodges so much you just premept everything
tight linden
Took him 282 to talk about the coral reef
normal token
Also trailer has 4.2M views!
tight linden
Let’s go
normal token
And treehouse 2.1M views
dusty nimbus
Treehouse said it's coming soon they better not be lying to us 😤
normal token
I do kinda feel bad for TC that they're probably pressued into ss being really really good due to this anticipation
tight linden
As long as it’s HK lvl I’m satisfied, but of course people out there will set their hopes to high. Like the people criticizing Elden Ring for looking like... a Fromsoft game?
hollow sedge
I do kinda feel bad for TC that they're probably pressued into ss being really r...
seems like the pressure isn't doing much tbh
cerulean sable
what if they intentionally drop with the big titles
to hopefully soften the hype
😉
dusty nimbus
to hopefully soften the hype
I thought you longed for ss TTaco, have you turned traitor to the ss mafia 
cerulean sable
i mean
normal token
I'm a very easily pleased person so I'll probably praise the fuck out of silksong
cerulean sable
remember that they liked releasing underground when BOTW came out
because it made it easier for them to bugfix shite
dusty nimbus
I actually am weird and want the experience of seeing the bugs before they're fixed
normal token
Now do anyrad
serene chasm
Life. The real final boss
tight linden
This is so deep Alexa help
cerulean sable
if SS is not on nominated tomorrow, i am about to do absolutely nothing but i will be dissapointed
tight linden
If Minecraft isn’t nominated in going to totally freak!
cerulean sable
GameFreak
dusty nimbus
If Tetris doesn't get game of the century award I'm gonna flip
tight linden
I support this message
Geezus where’s the noobie baby toddler child kid blueberry that says Silksong news? So I can add 1 to my counter for once
charred pulsar
Silksong news??
cerulean sable
Were inevitable Simo
charred pulsar
cerulean sable
we will get it
charred pulsar
Sounding confident
hollow sedge
if SS is not on nominated tomorrow, i am about to do absolutely nothing but i wi...
if silksong isnt nominated for most anticipated, I will sell all my liquid assets
normal token
Alright guys I hacked in
cerulean sable
😳
normal token
I know I'm right, Simon
More like he knows your right 
hollow sedge
if silksong isnt there... then whats next
cerulean sable
December news
normal token
February 2022
normal token
cerulean sable
which well form the Coalition of Silk mid 2022
normal token
And what happens if we go 2022 with no news
hollow sedge
more silknever jokes
normal token
They wouldn't go 2 whole years with no news, right? 
hollow sedge
They wouldn't go 2 whole years with no news, right? <:samsweat:82286780003608167...
if they can go almost 1 year without news, why not two
not like it matters, because silksong WILL be at the game awards
cerulean sable
this is essentially us in 2022 without news
coarse leaf
They wouldn't go 2 whole years with no news, right? <:samsweat:82286780003608167...
But maybe they would, maybe they would
heady iron
zamn we goin on a crusade?
coarse leaf
Welp I'm tired so I'm going to bed
cerulean sable
no this image depicts the last crusader going home
cerulean sable
gnight
cerulean sable
not like it matters, because silksong WILL be at the game awards <:brummoment:71...
based
fleet temple
I feel like this year has just been a test of how much we trust TC
brittle garnet
Eh, it's just waiting. Nothing special.
Thou covet the Silksong News. Desire beyond desire! Take it then, for We have ascended beyond it. No need for such an instrument.
gaunt geode
Do you guys think ss will come out 2nd Feb 2022?
shy kiln
I don’t really care about any date as long as it’s before 1st Jan 2023
(Not including 1st Jan 2023)
shy kiln
Yes, but considering what all they have said about what all they have planned for the game
I think it is a good enough time
shy kiln
gaunt geode
I'm hoping it's out by Winter 2022
shy kiln
What is TGA?
cerulean sable
the game awards
shy kiln
Oh, count me in 
cerulean sable
another one to our cause
gaunt geode
Me too
cerulean sable
anddd another one
shy kiln
And own it, they should never let it go
Also, is that your 2 fav Disney movies?
shy kiln
Those are both famous dialogues from their more loved movies so I thought it was your favourite too
cerulean sable
i hate the rest of their catalogue
pallid flare
Ratatouille and Up I guess
based
upper sigil
wanted to gift my friend ss for his birthday but i dont think its coming out soon
cerulean sable
patience
upper sigil
another game?
could gift them hk
native ivy
I'm hoping it's out by Winter 2022
December or actual winter?
hollow smelt
this is essentially us in 2022 without news
ttaco its happening
tga just believe brother 
upper sigil
just consider silksong isnt real
upper sigil
then have fun dying from waiting
cerulean sable
TGA TGA
hollow smelt
then have fun dying from waiting
ive been here for almost a year now ill be fine
native ivy
Therapeutic goods administration?
hollow smelt
the hope has died for a bit but its back
cerulean sable
ya think this is the perfect time for it 😏
hollow smelt
just release the kraken guys
they will have to release ss at TGA TGA TGA TGA TGA TGA
cerulean sable
and before yousay "but but TC is probably too small for TGA"
remember what Leth said, they were literally invited twice and they had to turn them down because they werent ready yet
AND, at one point during the summer stream (it was during the Summer Fest), Geoff was asked if theres Silksong stuff and he said no unfortunate but he tried contacting them before
hollow smelt
and before yousay "but but TC is probably too small for TGA"
remember what Leth ...
i mean TC's HK is pretty well known as a good game 
hasnt it won an award?
cerulean sable
nominated for Indie of the Year but lost to Cuphead by 2017
hollow smelt
it should atleast and then TC should be like "TOMORROW ITS SS TIME THANKS TGA"
hollow smelt
nominated for Indie of the Year but lost to Cuphead by 2017
ah well cuphead is still a good game too i guess 
fiery coral
Cuphead's pretty good yeah 
also that was probably way before all the updates HK got
hollow smelt
yeah i didnt play it before the updates but i remember getting it from humble bundle
coarse leaf
hk didn't have any updates during that time other than hidden dreams iirc
hollow smelt
if it wasnt for humble bundle i wouldnt have played hk, i saw someone play it and remembered that i had it
fiery coral
although now that I think on it I don't remember the launch periods for any of the content updates
fiery coral
hk didn't have any updates during that time other than hidden dreams iirc
ah alrighty
still elm
nominated for Indie of the Year but lost to Cuphead by 2017
not even that, Best DEBUT Indie Game
hollow smelt
fact
cerulean sable
but no Cuphead gets both
coarse leaf
lets fight cuphead
tell that to the people that gave the awards 
hollow smelt
tell that to the people that gave the awards <:beastcry:802036818572738561>
lets do a funny to their office
coarse leaf
make silksong goty 3021
hollow smelt
still elm
Silksong is a bigger name so it will rack up nominations next year
cerulean sable
tomorrow is the reveal for all the nominations btw
if only, we can get most anticipated...
Surely we deserve it already, no?
hollow smelt
tomorrow is the reveal for all the nominations btw
oh shiiiii is that gonna be the thing that saids which game goes?
still elm
on top of, you know, being good
hollow smelt
SHEEEEESH
cerulean sable
Twitter
hollow smelt
TGA TGA TGA
i dont get whats so good about forza horizon 5
people are raving about it in those replies but it doesnt seem fun to me
cerulean sable
i mean
it depends on the person dude
theres a huge lot of train enthusiast that plays Train Sim despite it being boring to us
hollow smelt
damn you're right
cerulean sable
theres just a demographic for a racing game
remember, we can also say the same for someone who thinks 2d platformers are for kids and "i dont seem to get whats the appeal of jumping from a platform to another platform"
hollow smelt
good point, infact im charging my switch as we speak
upper sigil
so from what i understood u guys said that we could get ss info tmrw ?
upper sigil
ok thats what i understood
hollow smelt
yeah you should make that clear
cerulean sable
its a shot in the dark, it could have it, it can not
shy kiln
remember, we can also say the same for someone who thinks 2d platformers are for...
I mean you can say stuff like this for every genre
cerulean sable
for tomorrow though, were just hoping we find Silksong as part of the nominees for anticipated games
upper sigil
i understood it properly then
opaque sigil
I mean you can say stuff like this for every genre
That... that's his point
hollow smelt
Wait it can be in a nominee thing for anticipated games?
so if it is we could have a better chance at TC releasing news
cerulean sable
well Elden Ring is out of the question considering it won last year's award
the question is, will they renominate games?
hollow smelt
you know ttaco
shy kiln
That... that's his point
I like to act foolish Tammo
(This time it wasn’t intentional, but act like it was; )
hollow smelt
you are creating this tga hype but you are the one who is gonna have to mod the whole ss discussion again
cerulean sable
if so its probably gonna be Spiderman, God of War 2, Horizon Forbidden West
hollow smelt
so its like shooting yourself
cerulean sable
that is the risk i know that i am getting into
hollow smelt
if so its probably gonna be Spiderman, God of War 2, Horizon Forbidden West
horizon forbidden west is gonna be sick, when GoW comes on pc ill play it
hollow smelt
horizon forbidden west is gonna be sick, when GoW comes on pc ill play it
its got a release date actually
copper knot
what r we talking about
hollow smelt
that is the risk i know that i am getting into
hmmmm i like the risk
cerulean sable
TGA Most Anticipated Game nominee
copper knot
what was last year's win
hollow smelt
TGA Most Anticipated Game nominee
that
cerulean sable
Elden Ring
copper knot
oh
burnt topaz
Wouldn't that be cool
hollow smelt
i would feel the emotion that is happiness for once
copper knot
also isnt there like a category for best debut game
burnt topaz
Why was among us allowed to win awards last year even though it came out in 2018
Am I missing something
hollow smelt
Why was among us allowed to win awards last year even though it came out in 2018...
prob because it spiked then idk
that people were like 
burnt topaz
Oh
cerulean sable
tbf on their case
hollow smelt
oof look at that curve
fleet temple
most people though among us came out 2020 any way
hollow smelt
it died SO HARD HAHAHAHA
burnt topaz
Right? Why is no one playing it now
cerulean sable
HK won a bunch of GOTY / Indie of the Year awards on some sites for the Switch release despite releasing in PC back in 2017
hollow smelt
Right? Why is no one playing it now
it got boring i think, they didnt update enough to keep it alive
still elm
i thought most anticipated game was a removed category
i remember they got rid of it in 2018
cerulean sable
tbf Among Us was essentially one of those games people hop into before move on to something, i forgot the term for it
fleet temple
Right? Why is no one playing it now
Whenever I play it now, I get a lot of people either not being good at the game or not trying and just trying to start conversations in the chat
cerulean sable
kinda like how people jumped from Undertale, Fnaf, Dream (tho hes still going strong), Baldy's Basic, Squid Game, etc
burnt topaz
It was just a trend ig
lament drum
a throwaway?
hollow smelt
Whenever I play it now, I get a lot of people either not being good at the game ...
i only enjoy it REALLY occasionally with a full group
also! another really good betrayal game is project winter, idd say its better than among us
burnt topaz
Yeah you really got to have your own group for it
still elm
Undertale is still relevant
fleet temple
You can only have a good game of among us with friends
hollow smelt
that shit was wild with friends
signal crag
kinda like how people jumped from Undertale, Fnaf, Dream (tho hes still going st...
fnaf is getting a new game soon tho
hollow smelt
fnaf is getting a new game soon tho
didnt that get delayed?
cerulean sable
BUT i dont think its gonna go back to the level of its inception
fleet temple
It's sad because the devs still care, they just updated the game with new roles, cosmetica and other stuff
hollow smelt
i should play through the fnaf games tho 
signal crag
didnt that get delayed?
wasn't it out by sometime in December?
cerulean sable
kinda like how when Deltarune came out, the fandom was WAY tamer in my experience
hollow smelt
wasn't it out by sometime in December?
oh what, i didnt even realise alright then
burnt topaz
I wish I had the Geoff cosmetic
cerulean sable
because a lot of those kids that latch on to something has already left
hollow smelt
i havent kept up with it tbf
burnt topaz
I've seen the trailer for it on YouTube but never bothered to actually check it out
hollow smelt
because a lot of those kids that latch on to something has already left
man dream stans tho those little bastards are horrifying
signal crag
Deltarune fanbase is much more tame yeah
hollow smelt
like i cant really say much myself since im still 15 but atleast im not an mc stan 
HAVE YOU SEEN THEM RUIN SOMEONE CAREER? its fucking wild
cancel culture isnt horrible if used correctly it just isnt anymore
burnt topaz
Some of my friends watch Mc you tubers and I think they only keep it online.
still elm
My Friend Peppa Pig will definitely sweep the awards
hollow smelt
like the whole fedmyster sexual offense situation is a good reason to cancel someone idd say
burnt topaz
My Friend Peppa Pig will definitely sweep the awards
What is this masterpiece you speak of?
hollow smelt
still elm
a game for PC and Consoles
cerulean sable
hollow smelt
ITS 40 BUCKS
copper knot
what
hollow smelt
burnt topaz
Very positive reviews 
copper knot
what do you think is gonna win tga
copper knot
what game even game out in 2021 anyway
other than uh
metroid dread
hollow smelt
what do you think is gonna win tga
peppa pig
cerulean sable
i mean jokes aside this game is bought by parents for their kids
nimble radish
what do you think is gonna win tga
||the game ||
burnt topaz
40 euros is 33 pounds wtf
hollow smelt
what game even game out in 2021 anyway
other than uh
metroid dread
i was gonna give you some response of a good game but NOTHINBG GOOD CAME OUT
cerulean sable
i dont know why yall should be expecting stealth elements with looter shooter mechanics in a kids game
nimble radish
i mean jokes aside this game is bought by parents for their kids
and probably by youtubers
hollow smelt
i mean jokes aside this game is bought by parents for their kids
yeah but 40 bucks is ridiculous
still elm
I watched my friends play Resident Evil Village and we had a blast
burnt topaz
Just go to the cbeebies website for free peppa pig games
cerulean sable
yeah but 40 bucks is ridiculous
because they know its a niche market
copper knot
honestly the only game that came out in 2021 that had a big online impact is metroid dread and drch2 but that doesnt count
hollow smelt
idd pay 40 bucks for silksong tho 😉
cerulean sable
so might as well tap into the niche market
its why some JRPGs cost like 50$ despite being 12 years old already
hollow smelt
thats true, ALRIGHT GUYS SADDLE UP WERE MAKING A PEPPA PIG GAME
hollow smelt
its why some JRPGs cost like 50$ despite being 12 years old already
oh yeah monster hunter rise will be sick
still elm
People have been gushing about Forza Horizon 5 lately
hollow smelt
i havent seen anything of rise because i want to shit myself
at some crab bitch jumpin or smth idfk
nimble radish
you want to what
copper knot
funny how a single chapter from an indie game that came out back in 2019 made mostly by a single person has more online impact than AAA games
indie games riseeee
hollow smelt
People have been gushing about Forza Horizon 5 lately
Yeah we talked about that earlier, i still dont understand the fun in driving cars but there are people that do
still elm
yeees
hollow smelt
gta driving is really fun though, with like a bike
burnt topaz
I used to play burnout paradise when I was younger and I would follow all the traffic rules like a nerd
hollow smelt
that stuff is sick, real cars tho 
burnt topaz
I'm gonna start driving in a few months and I'm kinda scared
hollow smelt
if you get scared bash the gas, atleast take someone down with you
burnt topaz
I doubt my instructor will allow that
hollow smelt
Nono after you get a license
copper knot
I'm gonna start driving in a few months and I'm kinda scared
dont be
hollow smelt
ill prob start getting mine next year, idk if i can get it at 16 tho
like maybe theory atleast?
burnt topaz
It depends where you live I guess
burnt topaz
dont be
<:SansSmug:876152650712907787>
Yo what does this mean
burnt topaz
i hope Chicory gets some love
I think I heard that Lena raine did the ost right?
still elm
ye
burnt topaz
Then I'm gonna have to check it out
copper knot
Yo what does this mean
dont be scared
burnt topaz
dont be scared
Ok the smug emote had me concerned for a second
hollow smelt
hey uhmm maybe the wrong server but anyone got a good rust base design?
burnt topaz
Should I be? I mean, I am also sans at the moment
normal token
How we feeling about ss news at tga
burnt topaz
I don't know
fiery coral
irrefutable proof
cerulean sable
How we feeling about ss news at tga
nimble radish
irrefutable proof
whoa evidens
still elm
6 hours until nominations are announced
cerulean sable
excellent
most excellent
mass ping me if we get in
otherwise, let me wallow in my shame
still elm
to most anticipated?
upper sigil
would like a mass ping too
cerulean sable
Most anticipated yeah
normal token
There's also a hat in time thing in 7 hours
cerulean sable
if i see 24 pings and apparently theyre all from Bots, im gona flip
normal token
Wait so in 6 hours we will know if SS will be at TGA or not?
still elm
that's when the nominations are announced
and they might have the "most anticipated game" category back this year
cerulean sable
just for nominations
the real deal is still in Dec 9
this is just our bonus essentially
hollow smelt
if i see 24 pings and apparently theyre all from Bots, im gona flip
wait why 24?
also why from bots?
still elm
24 tga cultists
cerulean sable
that was an arbitrary number
hollow smelt
this is just our bonus essentially
the lucky 2nd roll
ah i see, yeah ttaco youll get a ping from me if i see it and you BETTER PING ME IF U SEE IT 
coarse leaf
the real deal is still in Dec 9
what's on 9th
normal token
what's on 9th
The day silksong gets news 
hollow smelt
The day silksong gets news <:grimmwink:421597684177174528>
Possible news
steep basalt
9th december?
hollow smelt
TGA
normal token
The Gcherry Agames
upper sigil
we bouta see if tc deserves the name of team no news
brittle garnet
TGA is rigged anyways
normal token
I think Dread will win some award
copper knot
game journalists dont even know shit about games
if friday night funkin is on tga im going to kill myself
upper sigil
fnf is pretty decent imo
copper knot
not that i hate fnf, just why
brittle garnet
Also Elden Ring will win most anticipated
Not even the slightest shadow of uncertainty about that.
lament drum
super mario bros 3 wins game of the year again
cerulean sable
IF they allow old nominees to come back
Horizon Zero Dawn
Starfield
God Of War 2
Spiderman 2
more probably out of my toungue
wispy burrow
honestly
after silksong is out for a bit it's gonna be a tad sad
Hollow Knight world will not be revisited for like 7-10 years
analog forge
good, that just means well get to explore new worlds!
wispy burrow
i am fond of hollow knight and wish we got more after silksong, but that'll be a while. No guarantees I'll play Cherry's game after but at least they'll be happy
opaque sigil
Hollow Knight series might not get revisited, period.
Which is for the best. Better to cut the series off than drag it out
wispy burrow
that's true but depressing and unprofitable
and also nah i'd honestly love a lot more
opaque sigil
TC's reputation matters, it isn't just the series title
wispy burrow
yes but do you really think that hollow knight is close to being drawn out lol
opaque sigil
analog forge
You can always comission art to see more of hollow knights world
opaque sigil
Team Cherry is a known name these days, they don't really need to keep calling their games "Hollow Knight" to make money
analog forge
Especially after they make 2 knockout games
wispy burrow
if
opaque sigil
From everything we've seen and heard, SS being a knockout game is more than a fair assumption
wispy burrow
i dont have the level of trust you both seem to have. I do not trust a new world would be a knockout hit, or as quality or even near. I don't even trust Silksong to be as quality.
opaque sigil
HK was a rushed game 
wispy burrow
games aren't developed in a way like a math equation like dev talent x money x time =
there can be big fundamental issues from the drawing board
opaque sigil
In what world is a rushed game higher quality than a fully funded, fully formed one
There's been no reason to infer fundamental problems with SS
wispy burrow
sure but im not trusting team cherry
It'll probably be good but I'm not gonna pretend it's assured
They are artists, not machines
opaque sigil
It's not assured, just heavily supported by common sense and everything we've seen
wispy burrow
Even your favorite artists screw up, even with a lot of time
tammo you can drop your Facts And Logic persona
what you're going off of is feelings, just as I am
uncut citrus
well from the little info, trailer and demo we have it seems alot like HK unless so for me it will just be HK but with more stuff and bigger, probably alot of other little changes but it looks like it has the same structure
opaque sigil
Similar overall structure with more customization, improved environment design, etc
wanton crest
all we've seen so far is looking very good, don't know why anyone would be pessimist
wispy burrow
is it really pessimist to say "it will probably be good but not guaranteeed"
uncut citrus
i hope we'll get way more customation with songs and tools, imaine like passive stuff you could put like "increase dash distance by 10%" or "float ability stays 15% longer* it would be cool to kinda customize your playstyle like that
wanton crest
minmaxers rise up
uncut citrus
we stil dont know how songs will work tho
pallid flare
TC seems to know what we like
wispy burrow
It seems to be taking Zelda inspiration with the song stuff
and considering how some places in HK imo feel somewhat dungeon like, I wouldn't be surprised if Silksong leans a bit harder into that
zelda is already an unmentioned part of metroidvanias.
wanton crest
especially with HK
opaque sigil
Anyways
brittle garnet
I don't see how Silksong with its new world can be less quality than HK, it's just more of the same thing they did before.
wispy burrow
the dash mechanic is one of the things im most curious about
hard to stop, much skill needed apparently
I wonder how well it will be incorporated into the world or platforming mechanics. It will be a big part of if Silksong is a nice speed game, is fun to simply move around in, or if the flow of the environments works together
opaque sigil
I don't see how Silksong with its new world can be less quality than HK, it's ju...
Key word more
wispy burrow
i dont really think platforming was HK's strongsuit at all
its hardest platforming challenges are like celeste but less interesting and not incorporated into the world that well
SAWS
opaque sigil
More varied, detailed, dynamic, etc
wanton crest
platforming in HK is challenging at first but after 100hours i love it
wispy burrow
the platforming part of metroidvanias like HK usually comes from speedrunning, and that's why dash is interesting
if they will succeed in designing the world to allow skillfully continuing it or will there be a lot of blocks
opaque sigil
Platforming in HK was fine, not really its strongest element. SS is said to expand more on combat though
wanton crest
and movement
uncut citrus
platforming in Silksong wil probably be alot more fun since we seem to get way more ability and tools
wispy burrow
it seems to have a mechanic like sling stars from mario galaxy
where there was that one thing where hornet went from each one or whatever
uncut citrus
like we got the hit down cancel to gain a bit of disctance
uncut citrus
the float thing, the little dash
wispy burrow
i was going to insult you so it was either making a bit of drama in public, or dming you
glad you don't have the maturity to keep anything out of this chat
uncut citrus
and we got tools that we probably be alot of fun for mobility
wispy burrow
Tools seem fun
opaque sigil
and we got tools that we probably be alot of fun for mobility
Are you referring to red tools like the sting shards?
nimble radish
insult people publicly ya coward
wispy burrow
I wonder if it might work like the lad from Link Between Worlds
where you rent them
im not sure, been trying to avoid most of the gameplay stuff, so I might be really dumb
analog lily
Sting shards?
Aren’t they just called pins or something
nimble radish
hey tammo fuck you you suck
||/j ||
uncut citrus
yeah red tools, probably the active ones, will for sure have some mobility stuff
analog lily
Sting shards are the spike balls
Oh those, well that makes more sense
opaque sigil
The throwing things are called straight pins
uncut citrus
plus there the silk ability, like that needle grppling
wispy burrow
insult people publicly ya coward
mm no
that would make the chat itself where others are less fun, and maybe derail
uncut citrus
spike balls can be used for platforming as well yeah
nimble radish
I'm thinking the spike balls won't be great in combat since they don't move
opaque sigil
plus there the silk ability, like that needle grppling
Well I don't know if that's a red tool
opaque sigil
I'm thinking the spike balls won't be great in combat since they don't move
That would probably work fine for some enemies
uncut citrus
probably not a tool
wispy burrow
I really hope Silksong's big endgame platforming challenge (if it has one) is not designed like the White Palace or Path of Pain
not because it's too hard but it's kinda just annoyingly restrictive at points, and it makes the least sense in the worldbuilding IMO
analog lily
I'm thinking the spike balls won't be great in combat since they don't move
Well it’s possible for enemies to run/dash into them so it could be useful
uncut citrus
i think its a silk ability, there that throwing javling thing that is a tool, and probably red, but thats not the same thing
opaque sigil
Plus you do throw out sting shards ahead of you, so you could just throw them straight into enemies
uncut citrus
i think the needle throw is an ability since well, you dont need anything to throw your needle
you need a javelin to throw your javelin
wispy burrow
that depends
how many of these do we think can be mappable to a button and intuitive
uncut citrus
well, silk ability will probably be like spells (unless you cant click "heal" since clicking it heal)
opaque sigil
up+A and down+A could still map to abilities
wispy burrow
I think a pantheon kind of challenge but with platforming in between would be really fun TBH
especially for speedrunning
uncut citrus
then i dont see how tools would work without a key, maybe two key, one for the tool and one to rotate between tools?
wispy burrow
not every boss but maybe every second or third
opaque sigil
then i dont see how tools would work without a key, maybe two key, one for the t...
God I hope not
Cycling is a pain
May as well just have the two buttons activate different tools
uncut citrus
up+A and down+A could still map to abilities
yeah so far we only see one ability at once but maybe you could have more mapped like spell, ability + up/down
wispy burrow
maybe the optimized controls will come at the end of development
what playtesters think is most intuitive
uncut citrus
God I hope not <:zote:562358113374568477>
Cycling is a pain
thats what i was thinking but if we got 3 tools, clicking on 3 diffrent button might be a pain
i mean if you also have 3 button to press for diffrent ability
and movment abilities that might be like 3 diffrent button also
thats gonna get worst than terraria mobile GUI
opaque sigil
They could repurpose the dpad or something
wispy burrow
maybe reeves
as I said tho, I think even they might not have the full controls yet
nimble radish
nothing can be worse than terraria mobile GUI
wispy burrow
we might be speculating on something they haven't figured out
opaque sigil
Only red tools would need a keybind
wispy burrow
yes but the controls can change
especially for controller
opaque sigil
Only red tools are activated manually
It could be associated to what red tool slot you put the tool on
wispy burrow
they might add limits to keys to not give an even bigger advantage compared to controller
nimble radish
rember what they did in ori and the will of the wisps
wispy burrow
what did they do
opaque sigil
Wasn’t that a radial menu
nimble radish
different system though I guess, since all attacks were on the wheel not just specials
opaque sigil
Tool radial menu would suck
uncut citrus
that would ruin the fast pace fight tho
wispy burrow
there's enough keys on a board for like every tool at once probably
it just depends on how open they think the experience makes the most sense with for bindings, and controller
opaque sigil
Also, I kinda doubt crests would have more than 2-3 red slots max
wispy burrow
do they want to allow you the three and you can bind them, or nah
uncut citrus
or just bind 1-5 with diffrent tool, you can reach em
and there no way we'll have 5 active tools at once
nimble radish
theres definitely enough keys on a keyboard, it's the controllers you have to worry about
wispy burrow
i know there's a tool limit i'm just noting that keyboards have infinite potential for bindings
opaque sigil
It’s designed for controller primarily
nimble radish
remove movement 
opaque sigil
That was the approach with HK too, but SS is made for switch
uncut citrus
theres definitely enough keys on a keyboard, it's the controllers you have to wo...
smash but alot of diffrent moves on a controller, just put new ones when pressing two at once and you have it
opaque sigil
Controller is the priority
nimble radish
hell, take out all the controls and let it be a movie
wispy burrow
honestly i'd be down with a hollow knight movie
"Sorry, we didn't finish the game...
Instead we made a cinematic masterpiece"
uncut citrus
honestly i'd be down with a hollow knight movie
that'll be cool but i still wanna play SS 
wispy burrow
okay but what is the best studio for a hollow knight movie
wanton crest
1h30 of Shaws
uncut citrus
by the time SS release we'll have headphone that scans our brain waves and do what we want to do without touching a keyboard or controller anyways 
wispy burrow
i have an early build of silksong, it's in my mind
silver oak
Give it 
wispy burrow
im unattentive
is geo the currency in silksong
brittle garnet
No
silver oak
It’s rosary beads
brittle garnet
Now it's Rosaries
opaque sigil
Rosaries and shell shards, kinda
marsh ibex
📿 being an irl thing
opaque sigil
Shell shards are similar to geo but are used exclusively for tool replenishing
marsh ibex
mostly catholic and whateves
uncut citrus
eh shell shards arent really currency
opaque sigil
They're currency with an exclusive use
marsh ibex
I mean…they are a currency
uncut citrus
they just drop off bugs that woudnt be logic to have Rosaries on them
wispy burrow
Grimm is just a Hazbin Hotel character
marsh ibex
You use them to exchange for goods
silver oak
The geo equivalent is rosaries tho
wanton crest
but my grimm fanfic
opaque sigil
they just drop off bugs that woudnt be logic to have Rosaries on them
I think enemies that drop rosaries also drop shell shards
uncut citrus
I *think* enemies that drop rosaries also drop shell shards
well so far in the demo we dont see any right?
opaque sigil
I thought it did
wispy burrow
maybe they do now anyways tho
opaque sigil
Would suck if they didn't
brittle garnet
I *think* enemies that drop rosaries also drop shell shards
Correct
opaque sigil
marsh ibex
@wispy burrow rule 5
opaque sigil
Charles is dead 
uncut citrus
smh killing charlles just to prove a point
opaque sigil
Charles deserved it 
uncut citrus
i didnt see that tho
coarse leaf
i killed charles fine i'll admit it
opaque sigil
Also just from a gameplay perspective it wouldn't make sense really for them not to drop shell shards, if they didn't you could easily run out in areas with primarily rosary-dropping enemies
coarse leaf
i accidentally pushed him down the stairs
opaque sigil
Ambush room
coarse leaf
i accidentally pushed him down the stairs
something something violin
uncut citrus
Also just from a gameplay perspective it wouldn't make sense really for them not...
there statue stuff
wispy burrow
I think their biggest issue with tools that are breakable is when they have rooms that require tools doing things that break them in a row
opaque sigil
there statue stuff
Yeah but those are one-time things
wispy burrow
That's annoying
wanton crest
I think their biggest issue with tools that are breakable is when they have room...
they already adressed this with soul totems placed everywhere in HK I can see them doing something similar for SS
silver oak
:waiinatent:
opaque sigil
Active tool repairs in the field will probably not be a thing
Which is fine
Just let silk abilities account for progression stuff
wispy burrow
they already adressed this with soul totems placed everywhere in HK I can see th...
path of pain has the main display of this kind of thing but imo they could have bypassed that and this by simply having them not break in these places
marsh ibex
also I wouldn’t see rooms requiring tools
tools are charm equivalents and it’s rare that a charm was required
Aside from story progression
opaque sigil
Having to backtrack to a bench to change tools because you had the wrong one out would be tedious
wanton crest
path of pain has the main display of this kind of thing but imo they could have ...
much true, but that would be awkward lore wise
opaque sigil
Aside from story progression
It was also explicitly stated that the charm was required prior to going to Abyss.
wispy burrow
much true, but that would be awkward lore wise
path of pain itself is awkward lore wise tbh
SAWS EVERYWHERE
silver oak
Celeste C sides be like
wispy burrow
what is explained
marsh ibex
path of pain
opaque sigil
PoP is fine lorewise
wispy burrow
nothing you could make up could make me say "yeah it makes sense there's just this giant path of saws" it's too videogame-y
wanton crest
path of pain itself is awkward lore wise tbh
SAWS EVERYWHERE
✨ there is no plothole in HK ✨
✨ magic✨
marsh ibex
PK made it to kinda like, shove away his guilt. He believed he was the reason THK failed, and the whole gauntlet is to make people not find it
opaque sigil
"To witness secrets sealed one must endure the harshest punishment" or smth like that
uncut citrus
yeah
wispy burrow
okay and so he put up saws that you need to hit with your nail to bounce on
marsh ibex
also the dude shoved an entire palace into the dream realm he has the capability to make bullshit platforming fuck the path of pain fuck joycon drift
wispy burrow
idk this is just too gamey for me
i think it'd have made more sense if it was thorns like most of the game has
marsh ibex
it has thorns
wispy burrow
yeah but saws are not the same lol
opaque sigil
Saws are fairly sensible for HK's world
marsh ibex
Even hornet uses saws
opaque sigil
They're just motors and blades
wanton crest
PK heritage
wispy burrow
the mechanical saw was invented in 1813 apparently
wispy burrow
Can we get pokeballs in Silksong
marsh ibex
I want to see hornet let it rip
opaque sigil
Hornet has sting shards (thorns), buzzsaws, and spikes. Hornet is her own PoP
wispy burrow
i want hornet to yugioh duel in silksong
and then they become demons and you fuse them to make stronger demons
opaque sigil
It is cool that Hornet has some tools that are seemingly derived from/inspired by enemies and allies' equipment
wispy burrow
tbh im wondering most nowadays?
if they will show the end of that hornet and THK cliffhanger end scene
opaque sigil
No
wispy burrow
we'll neeeeveeeer knowwww
opaque sigil
We don't need to
wispy burrow
until Silksong 2 coming 2053
wispy burrow
We don't need to
i dont need to play silksong still want it tho
opaque sigil
And?
wispy burrow
i want to see that
opaque sigil
Well we won't
wispy burrow
ok and
i'll just be disappointed on that front if we dont, pretty simple
and no dont take that as i will be disappointed in the game
coarse leaf
tga nominees are soon right?
opaque sigil
Eh, imo it's better that they don't ostracize new players and subvert their own narrative philosophy
wispy burrow
they could stick it as an endgame secret
wispy burrow
also ive talked to people interested in Silksong and they said "I'll wait until I play the first"
opaque sigil
Some people might. Others won't
coarse leaf
they could stick it as an endgame secret
i doubt they'd explicitly show the scene, rather just imply what happened maybe
wispy burrow
and maybe that will interest them in playing HK1
opaque sigil
Which is why TC should not spoil it in SS
wispy burrow
frankly this kinda discussion feels off to me
opaque sigil
i doubt they'd explicitly show the scene, rather just imply what happened maybe
If they can do it without confirming that it happened or spoiling it for future HK players then fine
wispy burrow
they probs can
opaque sigil
"I parted ways with a sibling" ig could work
marsh ibex
and works with literally every ending monkaS
wispy burrow
but imo i dont think people would be like
"grrr this thing in the sequel to the last game spoiled me to the last game"
opaque sigil
That applies to all endings and is not so specific as to spoil anything
wispy burrow
people aren't that unreasonable i think
maybe
opaque sigil
SS is made with new players in mind, it's not supposed to be played after HK
TC should accordingly not do anything to obstruct HK from being the full experience for people who play SS first
shell cedar
I cant wait for the dlc to be revelaed
wispy burrow
which is a mistake imo, straight up
a lot of new players already see it that way anyways and considering how much the lore is a part of the HK experience, it's impossible to be fulfilling and satisfying with that without linking to the first IMO
opaque sigil
It's linked. Weavers and Hornet
tribal merlin
it's called Hollow Knight: SilkSong, not Hollow Knight 2: SilkSOng
wispy burrow
ive played sequels to games i hadnt played before and i kinda just went with it
opaque sigil
Were those games explicitly and intentionally designed to be played without playing the first
Was the experience of new players a priority
uncut citrus
ive played sequels to games i hadnt played before and i kinda just went with it
Hk is hungy knight sequel
wispy burrow
Were those games explicitly and intentionally designed to be played without play...
ive played sequels to jrpgs that assume you kinda just played the first
and while it was a bit offputting i didnt blame the developers because in no other media type will they be like "yeah in this sequel with returning characters you're allowed to be upset if it spoils the first one"
uncut citrus
smh how could you not play the original first
opaque sigil
SS doesn't assume you played HK
wispy burrow
it should have been designed to. that is my take
opaque sigil
Gibson explains that starting with the clean slate of an entirely new kingdom with its own lore and new characters is another way in which Silksong is designed to be “a perfect jumping-on point for new players. We’re trying to be really, really mindful that we want this to be a game that new people can come into, and experience as their first Hollow Knight game – that it sits alongside the original game
wispy burrow
should have is valid discussion, not just if it will
opaque sigil
Expecting players to play the preceding game is a valid option, just not the one TC took
wispy burrow
howdy
opaque sigil
But also randomly linking things in SS to HK arbitrarily and in a contrived manner would be annoying
random granite
In my opinion I think having the two worlds/stories unrelated with reappearing characters and nods or references to the first game would be good
opaque sigil
In my opinion I think having the two worlds/stories unrelated with reappearing c...
That seems like the way it's going
Hornet alludes to the absence of her HK tools in FD dialogue, and her abilities and taunt are nods to her actions in the first game
wispy burrow
in a way i get why they wanted to do that tammo but i think it simply most makes sense in series where lore is not really linked
hornet being a link in of itself is probably gonna be hard if we assume hollow knight's lore on the weavers has something, especially with Herrah and Hornet's birth, how, what they did in Hallownest, etc.
in HK im p sure most of her dialogue in the entire game is about her siblings and what the split means
opaque sigil
HK lore has barely anything on Weavers
Herrah will probably be alluded to but that doesn't have to be a big thing
wispy burrow
im not saying this game needed or needs to remind of hallownest every 5 seconds but its weird to not put in stuff that is a continuation of that game because of it imo
either way i hope the lore is agood
brittle garnet
The lore of the games will probably be linked, but not the story, most likely.
opaque sigil
HK can help contextualize SS but at no point should it be needed to understand it
random granite
look if we don't get menderbug as a reoccurring character in SS i'm gonna be upset
opaque sigil
The lore of the games will probably be linked, but not the story, most likely.
Well, those are kinda the same thing
wispy burrow
but you can reexplain something from HK, and probably fast tbh. at least bits of it
brittle garnet
Also, HK is not really a story driven game, so a continuation would be odd, seeing as a lot of the endings are already quite ambiguous.
opaque sigil
And Hornet's wyrm heritage may have something to do with why she's prioritized as a target, but explaining that wouldn't be necessary
brittle garnet
Well, those are kinda the same thing
Not really, no. The story is the events that happen during the game.
opaque sigil
In a game like HK you need the lore to understand the story
wispy burrow
like: "That reminds me of the infection...
Something that ravaged the kingdom I guarded." add a bit more flare to the dialogue, maybe a tiny bit explained better
works imo
opaque sigil
You can't have one without the other
wispy burrow
especially since hornet can talk
opaque sigil
If you play HK without paying attention to the lore, the story probably won't make all that much sense
wispy burrow
Honestly even if you try you still probably need youtube.com lmfao
tribal merlin
You can't have one without the other
lore is a canvas on which stories can be painted, so it is kinda its own thing. they can influence each other but they're not the same thing
split prism
look if we don't get menderbug as a reoccurring character in SS i'm gonna be ups...
The only important character
opaque sigil
lore is a canvas on which stories can be painted, so it is kinda its own thing. ...
Fair enough, but HK is notably dependent
tribal merlin
like you can have a universe with 1 lore and 20 different unrelated stories told in it
wispy burrow
lore adds spice to the environment and makes a world feel more like it exists outside of the character's perspectives that we see
that is the reason why lore is important. it fills a void outside of the main character's lenses.
brittle garnet
Also like, I don't want to see the same stuff again, I want new things. A continuation of HK would just be kinda unsatisfying to me, especially if it was in Hallownest again.
opaque sigil
Yeah
Plus Hallownest was relatively monotonous and uninteresting
Key word relatively
wispy burrow
like, why is this thing like this?
the main character never finds out, but if we link these two dots we find a solution
and now it feels like we aren't just limited to our main character
are yall listening
opaque sigil
Pharloom seems much more interesting to explore than Hallownest would be a second time around
wispy burrow
ok yall aint listening LOL
brittle garnet
No we just didn't forget the point of the conversation.
pallid flare
well yeah, we're reading
wispy burrow
uhh don't get me wrong
i didnt want another game set in hallownest >.> that isn't what I meant
brittle garnet
You didn't really specify before, but I understand now.
wispy burrow
No we just didn't forget the point of the conversation.
i'd take info on writing over any topic of convo
but mostly because i like writing tbh
brittle garnet
But basically, I prefer for the game to explore new things, without having to link them to what we already know.
wispy burrow
what I meant is that I wanted Silksong to touch on some topics and things we never got the answer to
like the "badlands" beyond the kingdom and not in other kingdoms. hopefully we will learn how that works? will we ever learn what the ancient civilization did? is void worldwide, or only in this place?
ofc not every question should be answered
opaque sigil
But basically, I prefer for the game to explore new things, without having to li...
Same, although some subtle references unabrasive to those without context would not be unwelcome
brittle garnet
Of course links are nice, but obvious references just for the sake of appealing to fans are bad imo.
wispy burrow
but i hope even though it's catering to new players, silksong helps answer some questions we could never get by sticking in Hallownest
opaque sigil
And of course contrived stuff is world breaking so that would suck
tribal merlin
that's answers mainly people who played HK want, but answering those isn't what SilkSong set out to be
opaque sigil
Including things just to answer questions like that would be silly
The priority should be building SS's world, not detracting from it to add to HK's
wispy burrow
it can still answer some of them, it doesn't need to focus and set out on it to answer some of it
and also some of these questions will only get actually weirder to answer if they just
completely ignore them
brittle garnet
Like your example of Hornet just mentioning the infection, I wouldn't want that.
tribal merlin
they don't have to answer those questions at all
wispy burrow
they dont have to do shit! they dont even have to make silksong!
doesn't mean I don't want them to answer some of the questions!
opaque sigil
Like your example of Hornet just mentioning the infection, I wouldn't want that.
Depends on circumstance. If there's a reason for her to do it naturally and in a way that isn't offputting for new players then they could do it
tribal merlin
yeah they do, Hornet DLC reached funding goal
and they stated that the dlc now would be a full game
opaque sigil
A goal which technically won't be fulfilled
wispy burrow
they could have kept it a dlc but they thought there was too much they had creatively to just limit themselves to that kind of content pack
tribal merlin
so by kickstarter contract they have to deliver
opaque sigil
Is that a de jure or de facto thing
wispy burrow
by kickstarter contract they are not releasing dlc
it's just that no one cares or takes issue with what they are doing anyways
tribal merlin
A goal which technically won't be fulfilled <:zote:562358113374568477>
they're allowed to deliver more than the promised goal, but not less
wispy burrow
especially since those who backed it are getting silksong for free anyways
opaque sigil
they're allowed to deliver *more* than the promised goal, but not less
Well that's kinda arbitrary but in this case ig it works well enough
tribal merlin
for "free"
heady sandal
sooo... silk and song?
pallid flare
I mean, they mainly paid for hollow knight
tribal merlin
the people who put money into Hornet dlc already gave money, why should they pay for it twice
marsh ibex
that’s just a given
wispy burrow
frankly i think they should be paying for silksong but TC's choice
wispy burrow
some stuff will be answered
good
heady sandal
wasnt it also contribution of those who paid to see hk in wii u?
marsh ibex
just not all of it
opaque sigil
some stuff will be answered
Yeah it's more about how contrived it is in answering things
wispy burrow
the wii u is a beta version switch anyways
opaque sigil
If the question is "where does Hornet go after HK" then yeah, it'll probably be answered, but that's a natural thing to answer
marsh ibex
like for example, stuff about ancient civ? Probably not, as that was hallownest only, and to be frank, hornet probably doesn’t give a shit about that
wispy burrow
If the question is "where does Hornet go after HK" then yeah, it'll probably be ...
this is the stuff i meant lmao
jesus
marsh ibex
and they would have to really work hard to…make it not exposit dumpy
brittle garnet
I'm just happy that Lifeblood is there, and I hope that we'll get some Lifeblood lore
opaque sigil
and they would have to really work hard to…make it not exposit dumpy
Or incredibly contrived
wispy burrow
to be fair if there is anything hollow knight is
it is the anti exposition
marsh ibex
‘Twould be like the finale in a series answering literally every question but failing to give a story in it’s own merits
marsh ibex
to be fair if there is anything hollow knight is
it is the anti exposition
White Lady
opaque sigil
I'm just happy that Lifeblood is there, and I hope that we'll get some Lifeblood...
Well... Since Hornet may not be able to access the dream expanse her experience with lifeblood may be limited to using it
brittle garnet
We'll see
wispy burrow
White Lady
yeah but you have to search her out only if you're going for the true ending
i beat the game and never saw the white lady
only found out due to a walkthrough
misty whale
vagrant umbra
i beat the game and never saw the white lady
only found out due to a walkthroug...
Sounds like you have a lot more beating to do!
wispy burrow
im at 98% and i did the true ending requirements a while ago
tribal merlin
should we tell about no true ending?
vagrant umbra
im at 98% and i did the true ending requirements a while ago
What if I were to tell ya, there’s 112% stuff out there to get.
opaque sigil
WL isn't hard to find. WP is kind of a problem though.
The game doesn't really direct you to WP
wispy burrow
What if I were to tell ya, there’s 112% stuff out there to get.
i would know that already because google and youtube
like, i already know the rest of the content im just gonna play it
vagrant umbra
Have fun.
brittle garnet
It'll be fun discovering things on your own that aren't already widely known.
(in Silksong)
wispy burrow
i imagine the random chance to go to that dream area from the godseeker would be insane to find lol
random granite
the speedrun tech will probably be crazy
opaque sigil
It'll be fun discovering things on your own that aren't already widely known.
Graig speedruns the game and posts it fifteen minutes after release
vagrant umbra
It'll be fun discovering things on your own that aren't already widely known.
I would suggest the same thing, I have a few exceptions though, such as starting the Grimm Troupe, finding sleeping dung defender, and where to start the eternal ordeal. I don’t see anyone finding those blind.
wispy burrow
im glad this isn't a retail nintendo game because then the game would leak two weeks early if not more
opaque sigil
I would suggest the same thing, I have a few exceptions though, such as starting...
Grimm Troupe wasn't as hard for me to find as the others, which kinda makes sense because WD, EO, and PoP were intended to be super hard to find
brittle garnet
It will probably be sent to content creators early, like HK. (though then it was for publicity, they might not need that this time around)
opaque sigil
iirc TC was trying to emulate the super obscure secrets in other games
vagrant umbra
Grimm Troupe wasn't as hard for me to find as the others, which kinda makes sens...
Oh yeah, I forgot … path… of pain….
wispy burrow
i found the grimm troupe naturally and my friend was like "woah good job" and i was like "wait was that hard to find"
uncut citrus
they could have kept it a dlc but they thought there was too much they had creat...
and also hornet tall
wispy burrow
i was like three hours in or summin
opaque sigil
It will probably be sent to content creators early, like HK. (though then it was...
They definitely don't need that
tribal merlin
there's people who continued on their old saves and had to search the map, in contrast to people who discovered stuff naturally while playing
cuz dlc
wispy burrow
maybe nintendo will help advertise it by spoiling the entire story like metroid dread
opaque sigil
Which is awful
vagrant umbra
I guess the hard to find part was that it was originally just a wall before the dlc. When you painstakingly strike everything that looks like a secret, and THEN get the dlc, it makes finding the Grimm Troupe hard.
wispy burrow
next time it shows up in a ninty direct it'll just recap the entire story
opaque sigil
That sort of disjointed experience is one of the reasons I don't want SS to have content packs
It's just better to do it all at once
Although things like the lifeblood update, maybe
But still better to do it at launch
wispy burrow
eh i'd be down with dlc down the line
the issue imo is the dlc for HK was stuff that felt planned from the start
vagrant umbra
Oh no! Please don’t give me the snails! I was typing as fast as I could on mobile!
wispy burrow
which, it was lol so makes sense
uncut citrus
i mean im always up for more content but obviously its better if its there at launch, then if that means waiting longer idk
opaque sigil
I doubt it would've taken HK until august 2018 to release if they had just included all the content packs in the base game and extended dev time (ik that wasn't an option)
vagrant umbra
Pretty sure their scope creep development cycle is to prevent the need for content package
wispy burrow
again imo it depends
if its stuff that is in the existing world or if it expands it
like, a big expansion
opaque sigil
Releasing the game and updates probably disrupted development and made it take longer to produce the next update
silver oak
How long do you think mossbag will go before uploading the (mostly) complete lore of Silksong
opaque sigil
uncut citrus
tbh a "godmaster" dlc for silksong would be fine for me, if they finish the game but just add a dlc thing like in HK which doesnt change anything in the main game but add a bossrush and maybe some new ending
vagrant umbra
How long do you think mossbag will go before uploading the (mostly) complete lor...
I’ll give him 7 years. Keep in mind that he hasn’t finished Hollow Knight either.
coarse leaf
Releasing the game and updates probably disrupted development and made it take l...
i imagine they were also enjoying being loaded lol
silver oak
Idk how long it will take the community to form a roughly complete picture of the lore
opaque sigil
tbh a "godmaster" dlc for silksong would be fine for me, if they finish the game...
I mean bossrush mode is kinda meh in and of itself, but still if they're gonna do that they could just do it at launch
silver oak
Probably quicker than in HK, since we're so much bigger than HK's early community
But I would give it at least a year
vagrant umbra
I mean bossrush mode is kinda meh in and of itself, but still if they're gonna d...
Oh man, I loved that. I always wanted to use OP charms for past bosses. And being able to fight Nightmare King Grimm with the melody charm is 
uncut citrus
I mean bossrush mode is kinda meh in and of itself, but still if they're gonna d...
yeah but i mean a dlc that doesnt really touch the main game doesnt really need to be added at launch, especially if you'd get there near the end maybe (ill probably finish silksong after they aready started adding dlc, if they do )
also HoG
opaque sigil
Oh man, I loved that. I always wanted to use OP charms for past bosses. And bein...
A boss refight mechanic would be great, don't misunderstand, it's just the rushes that get pretty dry
uncut citrus
Godhome isnt only bossrush
wispy burrow
imagine a paid hollow knight dlc in a few years that has the abyss stuff that was cut
tribal merlin
they stated they want to put a lid on the HK universe and explore other games, so why would they hang around and release dlcs for SS
opaque sigil
But like a HoG analogue should just be in the base game