sk-discussion

[normal token]

Going all endings canon + not mentioning them at all is the easiest to go

[hoary current]

tomorrow

[wind prairie]

[upper sigil]

i really hope it actually get hard mode

[normal token]

Silk Soul

[hoary current]

trust me, my cat works at tc

[wind prairie]

I really wish this was true

[hoary current]

trust me bro

[hoary current]

wait, hornet heals with silk doesn't she? does she even use soul?

[upper sigil]

she use both

[hoary current]

is hornet void

[upper sigil]

na

i dont even think she has any relation to void beside being a child of the pale king

[tawdry valley]

That is not something relational to void lol

[upper sigil]

yea

[shell yacht]

Hornet is devoid of void

[empty trench]

hornet should avoid the void

[uncut citrus]

i think its actually the first time i hear those words totally innocently and not a joke/sarcasm/~~an idiot ~~ someone who dont understand the lore even when shown countless proofs

[hoary current]

I mean it kinda is because the pale king threw all his children in the abyss but yeah no relation there because herrah would totally kill the pale kind if he did that to hornet

[normal token]

I remember when someone here innocently asked what SS is due to being a beginner and everyone thought they were trollling

[hoary current]

I honestly had no idea, I might watch mossbag's video on that now

[tawdry valley]

He threw no children into the abyss, despite what the cutscene seems to imply.
The vessels were incubated in the abyss, climbed out, and what you see are vessels falling back down.

[normal token]

For a legitmate answer: Nah she isn't

[hoary current]

well yeah but he threw the eggs in didn't he

[tawdry valley]

The eggs, yes.

[uncut citrus]

we arent 100%sure they climbed out, even if its probably the most likely theory

[tawdry valley]

They attempted to climb out. Many failed. This is what the falling vessels are.

[uncut citrus]

we arent 100% sure

[normal token]

We see vessels falling

[tawdry valley]

I am not referring to the vessel corpses in greenpath and deepnest

[normal token]

All fall while Ronald McDonald watches

[tawdry valley]

I am referring to the vessels who are falling in the cutscene. Who we know started at the bottom.

[uncut citrus]

could be like pk got the most promising ones up and at the end thought he found the one (thk) and threw the other back in the abyss, or any other thing really its not really likely but i still dont think we can say we know exactly how it went

[tawdry valley]

No

[uncut citrus]

vessel falling doesnt necessarily means they climbed up

[tawdry valley]

Bruh

[uncut citrus]

how do we know that?

[tawdry valley]

Because they hatched in the bottom.

[uncut citrus]

spoiler: we dont

[trim estuary]

But the eggs are all down there

[tawdry valley]

Spoiler, we do. Because to start at the bottom and then fall back to the bottom, you need to move upwards.

[normal hinge]

yea they just formed up there out of the air molecules

[tawdry valley]

Lemme guess, you want to argue they didn’t start at the bottom.

[normal hinge]

what if pk had telekinesis

[uncut citrus]

that doesnt mean they climbed up, like dude i really belive they did climb up but im just saying we cant be 100% sure of that because there other less likely theory about how they would be falling that we cant know for sure

[normal hinge]

like what

[tawdry valley]

Your areas of “uncertainty” seem to be things you literally just don’t know about the game.

[shell yacht]

homie what

[hoary current]

they started at the bottom because they are filled with void, where is the void coming from? the void lake? where is the void lake? at the bottom of the abyss

[tawdry valley]

Like what the fuck are you talking about.

[shell yacht]

you cant go up without climbing
you cant fall without being up there

[uncut citrus]

like pk could have taken a few up to test them in some way (the sawblade theory doesnt make enoght sense for me but there maybe other way to test them) then when he found the right one he threw the one that werent good enough abckto the abyss

[shell yacht]

no???

[tawdry valley]

Yeah but we don’t know that 100% powdered 🙄

[hoary current]

no lmao the saws were to test the hk

[shell yacht]

hes standing at the top reading off his wishlist at the doorway

[tawdry valley]

Bruh

[shell yacht]

why tf would he go down, grab a few out of a million, then wait by the door

[uncut citrus]

eh that doesnt make much sense to why would they use saw to test thk

[shell yacht]

saws werent a test at all

[hoary current]

he forgot his phone downstairs

[tawdry valley]

More concrete evidence is that literally nobody in the kingdom knew there was more than one vessel

[normal hinge]

what sawblade theory

[tawdry valley]

Dung defender makes express note of his surprise to see a second vessel

[uncut citrus]

well why would he wait by the door for vessels to climb, if saw doesnt make sense to test them jumping doesnt either

[hoary current]

to see who's worthy

[normal hinge]

I mean he trained thk to skillfully use a nail and spells

[hoary current]

why would he use the saws to test the vessels

[normal hinge]

what saws

[shell yacht]

saw doesnt make sense because the saws wrrent there until he fucking ran away and hid after the second collapse

[uncut citrus]

bruh i never said he was testing anything with saw

[hoary current]

then im dumb because i swear someone was saying that

[tawdry valley]

So there’s now allegedly a tourism project for the vessels that has no foundation for existing, despite the game explicitly stating one vessel was selected out of the abyss

[normal hinge]

which saws

[shell yacht]

forget the damn saws

[uncut citrus]

idk pk could have been testing their phisical stregth by who makes it up, but then test their soul power or some other stuff and throw back those who faild, that would mean some are falling from falling and some from Pk yeeting em

[tawdry valley]

This is like reading half of a novel and claiming we don’t know enough about the characters to say what happens in the end.

[normal hinge]

did pk take some vessels, chuck them in the wp and then come back and kick them off the ledge

[nimble radish]

hold on wasn't it you who said that

[tawdry valley]

Bruh there was no yeeting

[uncut citrus]

well actualyl thats really much a detail that matter like not at all to any part of the story so idk why we're even discussing it

[hoary current]

No i was talking to someone else who brought that up

[shell yacht]

this in no way chamges the fact that they are falling because they climbed up. PK didnt handpick anything

[tawdry valley]

Because you seem to think there’s more to the vessel creation story than
-born in abyss
-many died in abyss
-sealed in abyss
-some take the back entrance from the abyss

[tawdry valley]

Like where did you get any of this.

Excluding the sawblade part

[normal hinge]

is this the sawblade theory

[hoary current]

Wait there’s a back entrance?

[normal hinge]

well how else would they leave the abyss

[tawdry valley]

Vessels corpses appear en mass inside of nosks lair, and we see a vessel corpse in deepnest and ancient basin. The basin vessel was originally intended to be a greenpath boss (that gave the dash)

[hoary current]

Helicopter?

[hoary current]

Oooh ok thank u

[uncut citrus]

well it woudnt make much sense to not test the vessels, if he needed just one he could have just made one or a few to be sure but he made alot, like A LOT so it feels kinda wierd if he just tested them by seeing who can do a bit of parkour, that doesnt seems like a good way to test a vessel who's goal is to be, well, a vessel

[tawdry valley]

This is team cherrys visual storytelling method of implying our vessel, and maybe more, climbed out of the abyss themselves through hallownest

[hoary current]

Yeah I got that but I thought there was like an actual back exit from the abyss

[tawdry valley]

#hk-lore message

Nah, it’s offscreen. Sort of like cornifers route through fog canyon and hornets routes through greenpath

[uncut citrus]

we dont really know from where they escaped but its much likely its from Deepnest since we see so many vessel corpses here

[nimble radish]

tbh it could be WL's "number of children" setting is constantly on "a gajillion"

[hoary current]

Oh ok, it probably collapsed or something

[nimble radish]

probably under the vessel corpses

[normal token]

All the vessels have shit parents

[tawdry valley]

An open path from cliffs down to the abyss would be a little problematic to game design

It is not on screen because a narrative point doesn’t need to be playable, especially if it’s that game breaking

[uncut citrus]

i dont think yall realise when you get to void heart theres many many MANY times your size of just pure vessel shells (we dont have any mesuring unite so i use tk okay) and the abyss is pretty heckin wide so i doubt she can just make that many eggs in not so long

[nimble radish]

why not that's like her whole thing

[uncut citrus]

i mean only vessel shell, not like PV shells

[hoary current]

True

[nimble radish]

would only be a problem if it was open from both ends

[uncut citrus]

dude

[hoary current]

I really hope cornifer’s in ss at least a small cameo with iselda

[uncut citrus]

lemme just

[shell yacht]

WLs only known powers are baby making and goimg senile like cmon million babies isnt a stretct

[uncut citrus]

we laready have a map maker but maybe just as a lore npc

chakra

[shell yacht]

WL is a lore npc and she sucks at it

[hoary current]

Or an iselda boss fight, that’d be hype

[uncut citrus]

we got a map selling in Silksong, so Cornier could only be like a lore npc

[shell yacht]

returning characters just isnt gonna be a thing

[uncut citrus]

at least she confirms your her spawn for all of those "TK is Pk" theory

[hoary current]

Yeah I know just would he nice to see them again

[uncut citrus]

but she does say contradictory stuff tho

[shell yacht]

as if 57 other ingame points didnt prove this

[languid linden]

57? Like the number of precepts? Zote is a Vessel confirmed?

[uncut citrus]

i mean 57 other ingame AND outgame form Silksong points proves Hornet isnnt void yet...

[languid linden]

hold up is this #hk-lore

[nimble radish]

yes fordo, this is #hk-lore

[languid linden]

Goodbye then

[shell yacht]

remve the yet from that paragraph @uncut citrus

[uncut citrus]

we talking about hornet eventually so

you cant deny ppls are dumb its just a fact

also im still looking for that abyss map 2 sec

[hoary current]

Hornet isn’t void

[odd spoke]

Hornet is void termina

[languid linden]

If I had a nickel for every time I almost blocked someone today, I'd have 3 nickels

[hoary current]

Which isn’t much, but it’s weird that it happened thrice

[heady jetty]

Is silksong out yet

[uncut citrus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmQOQ2eaQMw 1:37 cause i coudnt find any map of the entire thing just watch this, its a really big and deep pit just full of vessel shells, thats kinda large (impressive)

[nimble radish]

yes I know what the abyss looks like

[uncut citrus]

how do i say this...

[nimble radish]

?sspsa

[thin zephyr]

Reminder: The latest news for both Hollow Knight and Silksong is in #hk-announcements.
Check the pinned messages for more information, including a FAQ.

[carmine sapphire]

Yes

[uncut citrus]

but like how deep the void heart pit is

[heady jetty]

Ok thanks 👍

[carmine sapphire]

Np

[nimble radish]

yeh theres a lot of vessel shells

[uncut citrus]

there no visible end

[nimble radish]

well, yes

[random granite]

I would be surprised if we didn't get an official blog post saying SOMETHING before dec. 13, no posts in 2 years is crazy

[sage quiver]

Why can’t they just say anything bro 😭

Just like “development is going great” idk

[full rune]

cause that's implied

[sage quiver]

By silence? 🤔

[full rune]

yes, if someone says they're working on something, you can assume they're still doing it til they say they're finished

[odd spoke]

Cause development is not going great

The game somehow has turned into hungry knight 3

[burnt topaz]

from that id say that development is going tremendously

[uncut citrus]

eh Leth said they are obviously having new problems to overcome while making silksong, but i dont think its anything that bad, not perfect but they seem to work pretty fast

im thinking of every possible skips they gotta fix with all those tools and movement abilities, while they will surely keep some intentional there still alot to think about with all this mouvement

[radiant wraith]

Silence is a sign of good progress

[simple thicket]

what old character do you guys think will appear in silksong?

[burnt topaz]

obligatory hornet

[simple thicket]

I think we'll see The Hollow Knight, and maybe Zote

[odd spoke]

Tgats exactly what metroid prime 4 used to say

[radiant wraith]

None save Hornet

[normal token]

Pikmin 4 going good

[brittle garnet]

Silence is a good sign of nothing

[radiant wraith]

It's a sign of not cancelled at least

[tulip lark]

Maybe Grimm's company

[coarse leaf]

Silksong coming out 2023 💀💀💀💀

[uncut citrus]

yeah im pretty sure we wont see much exempt the weavers and hornet? like they confirmed it somewhere right?

[simple thicket]

yeah, in the trailer, demo, and edge

[odd spoke]

That random weaver is prolly all we will see

[normal token]

Silksong not being there doesn't matter

[uncut citrus]

then why ask this

[coarse leaf]

it's the first time Nintendo doesn't put Silksong for the next year

[normal token]

Ony weavers

[radiant wraith]

Maybe they learned from their mistakes

[analog forge]

nintnedo never put silksong for next year, it was always trhe "next year and beyond" tab

[odd spoke]

Ye

Copium for the geforce leak

[simple thicket]

I think people think that silksong will be really disconnected from hollow knight, Silksong is a sequel, not a spin off. I think it will most likely be a direct continuation of the godmaster endings, but wont be entirely obvious so that players who didnt play hollow knight wont know whats going on.

[coarse leaf]

Maybe the feb 2022 leak is real so Nintendo didn't put Silksong in 2022 releases to not create more hype in the comunity

[normal hinge]

tc said all endings are canon

[simple thicket]

I think team cherry just doesnt want nintendo saying anything about silksong without their permission

[coarse leaf]

Also true

[simple thicket]

just because all endings are canon, doesnt mean they cant choose one of them to continue off of.

[odd spoke]

It prolly wont address hl

[normal token]

Silksong is beginner-friendly so probably rarely will address endings

[simple thicket]

it's story telling will probably be similar to hollow knight in which the story isnt obvious unless you look for it

[radiant wraith]

Are we sure it's a sequel?

[odd spoke]

I just want to go zoom as hornet

If it was a prequel

[simple thicket]

I feel like there is no way the godmaster endings would be cliffhanger if team cherry didnt think they would ever continue them

[odd spoke]

Hornet op af

[coarse leaf]

Silksong does not exist

[odd spoke]

I mean they may have planned to

But remember hornet was supposed to just be dlc

[coarse leaf]

Yeah

[odd spoke]

Plans change

[simple thicket]

team cherry said they knew silksong would be a full game long before godmaster came out

[odd spoke]

Citation

I do think its possible the hollow knight shows up as a secret boss on sillsong to sort of tie woth godmaster

[coarse leaf]

yes

[odd spoke]

But prolly no real story presences just a cameo fight basically

[radiant wraith]

Thing is, the Hollow Knight would have to be moved to Pharloom

[simple thicket]

they gotta explain the shade lord though

[normal token]

I don't think they will

[simple thicket]

like at least a quote from hornet saying hallownest was destroyed by the void or something

[normal token]

Goddamit why does my l multiply for no reason

[radiant wraith]

I had my theories about PK being connected to Pharloom and maybe showing up as a boss, but I don't really believe them myself.

[simple thicket]

i mean its possible pale king never died and went off to go make pharloom

[normal token]

Hornet finds PK in Silksong and beats the shit out of him for being a horrible dad

[odd spoke]

They dont gotta do shit storywise

It could be like a "lost memory" or some shit

[normal token]

Pharloom has it's own story to tell

[odd spoke]

It would give newer players some tie to the name hollow knight

[simple thicket]

I believe that silksong will tie in to the story of hollow knight, more than we believe.

[normal hinge]

why would it be, the shade lord is the knight after all

[pallid flare]

because references cool i guess

[radiant wraith]

I don't really want the Godmaster ending to be the canon one tho...

And having the shade lord would make it canon I think

[simple thicket]

the shade lord isnt the knight, its the entirety of the Void given focus

the knight just caused the void to become one

[cunning geode]

Here is your citation for the question of when the shift from dlc to game was decided

[normal hinge]

knight get void heart, knight control void, in dnm knight turn to the LoS, in p5 after rad is defeated godseeker attunes with the LoS

the hog statues also show this order and it's called void given focus

[odd spoke]

Ty

[cunning geode]

Leth said at one point it was his recommendation to Ari and Wilbo

[simple thicket]

the knight was absorbed by the void, and while the knight might still be conscience inside the shade lord, I dont believe it controls the shade lord

[cunning geode]

and that became the plan

[languid linden]

Yeah

[languid linden]

How can the Knight be absorbed by the Void when it has complete control of it

[normal hinge]

why not
'An emptiness that was hidden within, now unconstrained. Unifies the void under the bearer's will.'
the bug that gives shade cloak also says that void is power without unity, there is no ancient void god monster thing that the knight awakened

[simple thicket]

the void was unified by the knight, the lord of shades is the complete unification of the void into one being, the knight, being a construct of the void, must've been absorbed as well

[uncut citrus]

mr mushroom definity hints to a sequel with the "To be continue"

[simple thicket]

i think that was more of a joke

[uncut citrus]

oh wait i meant like to that message

i mean yea but at the same time

Mr mushroom is wierd and like talk with ppl form the real world/other games

[simple thicket]

i think it more hints to mr mushroom making an appearance in silksong

[uncut citrus]

so it could come to silksong following this half 4th wall lore

[simple thicket]

if mr mushroom is in silksong, I believe he might be used to tie silksong to hollow knight vaguely

[uncut citrus]

Mr mushroom only talk like two or three lins of dialogue about other games so idk why he would talk alot of Hallownest, must be just another kingdom like he saw plently before and not worth actually talking much about

[simple thicket]

mr mushroom comes from fungal wastes, there is no proof he's been to any other kingdoms

[uncut citrus]

he can fly

why woudl you be able to fly

[simple thicket]

that might've been the first time he's done that

[uncut citrus]

and not check silksong?

[simple thicket]

i believe the only reason for his flight at the end is to bring him to pharloom

[uncut citrus]

if i could fly ill go straight to pharloom to see whats going on here

[jolly zodiac]

hello

[simple thicket]

hey!

[uncut citrus]

hello toad

[jolly zodiac]

was there any ss info in the last 4-5 months

[simple thicket]

nope

[jolly zodiac]

i shall go back to my slumber

[uncut citrus]

no

[jolly zodiac]

i will re-surface in the next few months

[uncut citrus]

no its fine ill ping you when we get news

thanksfully i dont have to remebr this sicne it wont happen

[chrome dragon]

Sicne

[radiant wraith]

It will happen and you'll not need us to know

It's quite the anticipated game

[sinful flare]

hi toad (from hollowcord)

bye toad 😭

[trim estuary]

silksong news: the game is not out yet
Current community anticipated events: TGA 2021, December Nintendo Indie Direct (unlikely), February 2022 Nvidia leak (unlikely), E3 2022, SGF 2022… (continued)

[sinful flare]

what
what is tga

[pallid flare]

the game awards

[sinful flare]

tueen's gardens acid

[trim estuary]

The Game Awards
They said they are announcing 40-50 new games there, might include Ss but idk

[sinful flare]

awarding one before it even releases bigbrain

[trim estuary]

They announce new games there so

[coarse leaf]

Gamescom was awarding games that didnt even release

[viral pivot]

when are the game awards again?

[coarse leaf]

Like that was just an ad

[trim estuary]

December 9th, which is suspiciously close to December 21st

[viral pivot]

👀

whats on dec 21st?

[random fox]

New?

[viral pivot]

i havent checked in here in a while

im a bit behind on the times on events and stuff

[random fox]

I mean only possible event that we see ss on this year is game awards

[trim estuary]

yeah

[random fox]

Btw what yall think will get goty

[distant saddle]

hollow knight silksong

[random fox]

[trim estuary]

Uhm
Fortnite

[distant saddle]

it will release in 13 seconds

[random fox]

I personaly think mogus

But fornite is good pick

[viral pivot]

wait didnt among us get a thingy last year even though it released a while ago and only that year picked up popularity across the world or am i insane

[trim estuary]

what game

[lone elbow]

Think we'll get anything at the game awards?

[trim estuary]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586931790208434203/907974990979297320/sil.PNG

[lone elbow]

😅

[random fox]

Yea i honestly think that theres a decent chance of getting a releasr date

[trim estuary]

Possibly

[random fox]

Theres really no big game dropping for holidays rn so it could be a good idea to release ss durring that time idk?

[radiant wraith]

They don't have it

[random fox]

I dont know alot about game marketing but i think its possible

[trim estuary]

Yeah and Elden Ring releases 2 months after so they still beat Elden Ring to release date so we can rub it back in ER fans’ faces 🍔

[viral pivot]

depends if its ready tbh

[lone elbow]

I would lose my damn mind if they were just like, "here's a release trailer and it's out now go have fun"

[viral pivot]

XD

[random fox]

Doubt it will beat elden ring, that game looks insane, cant wait honestly

[lone elbow]

I'm gonna be upset if Silksong and Elden Ring release around the same time. I want to play them both a lot

[trim estuary]

I meant in release date

[random fox]

Ah ic mb

[lone elbow]

My gf is hyped about Elden Ring so I'm obligated to do that one around release.

[trim estuary]

Leth said he likes doing a trailer and then a release 2 weeks after but it’s not entirely up to him

[random fox]

2 months?

[trim estuary]

Weeks not months brain

[lone elbow]

So if the leak is somewhat accurate.... December trailer

[random fox]

Oh i didnt see edit i got confused

Is it bad to drop a game on holidays

[trim estuary]

Leak is probably a date they wanted to have the game out by

And the HK patches would lead into this well, being dropped every 2 months, they release the last one along with Ss

[random fox]

Is there always a patch every 2 months

[normal token]

I like how we live in a time elden ring may release before SS

[random fox]

Society

[trim estuary]

Yeah, read #hk-announcements

[sand pasture]

Do you think that Elden Ring and SIlksong will be released close to each other?

[random fox]

Yea, i personaly dont think where gonna have to wait more then like 3 or 4 more months

Tho i also think ss could be sooner like late december

[stoic jacinth]

my only thing close to an expectation for release is a news update by this upcoming valentine's

past that we really know nothing

so i can't really estimate

[wanton crest]

"may ?" will

i think that's a safe assumption

[normal token]

Hey I don't want for some messages to age poorllly

[wanton crest]

i would love to be wrong

people can play ss too

the devs

[stark estuary]

/playtesters

[normal token]

Honestly don't like how some people outright say "SS will not come out in the follow months" tbh

[random fox]

Yea

[normal token]

Like where are you getting that confirmed information from

[stark estuary]

Hyperbole

[wanton crest]

if you're right, no disappointement. If you're wrong then super duper cool

[normal token]

The thing is some people make it sound like it's a fact

[marsh ibex]

Simo and Graig and Leth

also William and Ari

and Leo

[normal token]

Leo

[still owl]

Edge magazine person?

[marsh ibex]

yes

[stark estuary]

It's not like the people saying that don't want the game to come out.

[marsh ibex]

William’s child

[normal token]

Oh

[marsh ibex]

His progeny

his little bapi boi

[normal token]

HK fans coming to William's family as it is getting in the way of SS development

[marsh ibex]

leo and I played league together

Don’t tell window

[normal token]

@ Window

Would be funny if I removed the space and get warned

[marsh ibex]

Window would not care

[wanton crest]

jk
unless ?

[stark estuary]

Joker would definitely ban you

On the spot. No mercy.

[normal token]

I was thinking why so many in the radical left participate in speedrunning

[wanton crest]

the concept of doing things fast rather than right...

[marsh ibex]

“Fastest mario”

“Shadow what the fuck are you talking about?”

[normal token]

Your a beta male sonic

Btw @stark estuary nice Magolor pfp, I love him

[marsh ibex]

Kirb only did it to get mod in archives

[stark estuary]

That's true

[normal token]

Makes sense

[stark estuary]

Now I wait

[normal token]

Also egg salad

[stark estuary]

I went to get the egg salad gif and accidentally closed discord

[normal token]

[radiant wraith]

Sillysong

[chilly nexus]

Silksong

[tranquil marsh]

milksong

[surreal mortar]

If Silksong does come out in febuary, that month is gonna be completely stacked between Elden Ring, Horizon FW and Silksong.

[potent plover]

in my opinion hk-discussion feels worse than ss-discussion

[empty trench]

silksong already came out

[potent plover]

please don't say anything like that, it makes me hope for a second

[empty trench]

ok

[potent plover]

I'm kidding

[empty trench]

ok

[potent plover]

ok

[empty trench]

ok²

[potent plover]

Ko

[uncut citrus]

Ok ko

[trim estuary]

Exactly so December

Why did it autocorrect it to all caps

[distant saddle]

nah

november 13th

[trim estuary]

[distant saddle]

my uncle works at hollow knight so yeah

[potent plover]

its November 13 where I am, playing silksong rn

[distant saddle]

is it good?

[potent plover]

no lol

bad ending

[distant saddle]

lol

[potent plover]

turns out Silksong is only available in Australia

[sweet drum]

should i try

[trim estuary]

yes

absolutely a great idea

[sweet drum]

exactly i see no problems

@hollow terrace

see no problems

👍

[fallow rock]

dead chat

[pallid flare]

ched hah

[fallow rock]

chad bah

[burnt topaz]

ched more like
go to bed

[potent plover]

silksong

[pallid flare]

why did it send twice

[burnt topaz]

chat died twice

[fallow rock]

no

[burnt topaz]

thats fair, i have no power to make you do anything

[fallow rock]

yeah

happy 1000TH DAY SILKSONG TRAILER

[magic otter]

lol

you know i really hope the luiqed release date is real

[warm bone]

luiqed?

you mean leaked?

[magic otter]

yea

tsry about the spelling

[formal karma]

what leak? the nvidia? that's not even a leak...

[magic otter]

release date

febuary something

[formal karma]

yea that's not real

well......... VERY LIKELY not real

[tribal merlin]

there's basically no chance it's real

[magic otter]

im just ssaying they could be trying to hide it and it was a huge leak for a lot of coming out games

[warm bone]

it's placeholder

[formal karma]

mhmmmmmmmm, nah. you do you though

[tribal merlin]

like games that are not even decided if they are gonna be made, yeah

[magic otter]

im not saying 100% thats it but it could be

take it into consideration

[formal karma]

but..... that's not how this works

[tribal merlin]

I could get hit by something from outer space doesn't mean it's likely

just because something "could be" it doesn't mean anything by itself

[formal karma]

if my computer got hacked and someone saw that I had a Notepad that said silksong released on dec 13th... that'd be just as likely as nvidia leak

[tribal merlin]

yeah except that nvidia prolly don't even read this discord and have even less inforamtion than we do

[stone wyvern]

Hmm

[vernal locust]

ya know what would be cool

if THK showed up in silksong as a side character

[formal karma]

gross

[dusty nimbus]

No chance

[formal karma]

sorry, but nooo

[vernal locust]

ok, i jsut wanna see some form of media of THK learning how to not repress the action of thinking.

[dusty nimbus]

I agree, let's keep THK in their game

[magic otter]

this is what google says

[formal karma]

involving THK seems like rooting for a purposeless life

[vernal locust]

ok

[magic otter]

With the lack of news about Hollow Knight: Silksong, the Nvidia GeForce Now leak gave fans hope that Team Cherry's upcoming game might finally be coming soon, as it stated that Silksong would become available in February 2022 - which seems like a reasonable timeframe to release the game.

[vernal locust]

i actually can't wait

[warm bone]

[formal karma]

well, that means nothing, still, wicked

[tribal merlin]

is it really reasonable that TC know the release date more than 6 months in advance

[vernal locust]

but of course that means that the game is going to be good

[magic otter]

idc i like getting on peoples nurves

[warm bone]

people never learn, remember the steam placeholder leak

[formal karma]

and literally every event and direct.....

when is day 1000? ii don't want to be here for that

[coarse leaf]

hk would have to be somewhere in ss

[formal karma]

mhmmm, no, they wouldn't HAVE to

[coarse leaf]

its called hollow knight silksong

plus the ending

[formal karma]

that means its in the universe

[coarse leaf]

bruh embrace the void ending

[formal karma]

so? there's no canon ending

also... THK is a big ball of nothing with no purpose, they don't need to be in Silksong

[coarse leaf]

ok bud

[formal karma]

they have exactly nothing to do with pharloom or its story

[coarse leaf]

ok well thats going too far

[formal karma]

explain- and i'll redact my statemant

[coarse leaf]

well

we havent even played the ganme

how do u know that markoth isnt seths dad or smth

[formal karma]

because... he isn't

[coarse leaf]

proof?

[formal karma]

having eyeballs

[coarse leaf]

so no proof

i think that unn made pharloom

and white lady grew there

[formal karma]

my proof is that TC aren't insane fanfic writters

[coarse leaf]

and godhome will show up

and hornet will say the f word in the ending

and she will commit dye

the bad ending

there will be a dlc

ss gone sexual

and bell cultists eat babys

anything is possible

also i smell amogus crossover

[fallow rock]

what the hell are you saying about

[potent plover]

What the hell is going on

[coarse leaf]

scroll up

me and somone who obviosly know alot more about silksong were having an argument

lol

and i think that hornet is a dog

or a furry

maybe ive gone too far

[nimble steppe]

Someone call me?

[potent plover]

okay enough ss-discussion for today

[coarse leaf]

thats enough ss speculation for today

[wind rover]

Honestly? The wait was unbearable, but silksong surpassed all expectations

[crisp drift]

hmmmmmm

[formal karma]

Well that's the best goof that I've seen in a while

[sterile sleet]

Very good album btw

[fallow rock]

i love this game

[vagrant umbra]

Getting closer to the Edge magazine anniversary!!!

[trim estuary]

GUYS SILKSOLGN LEKE1!

[vagrant umbra]

Spoiler tag it fool!

[fiery coral]

I like how absolutely gigantic the Knight is

[trim estuary]

uh
i already sent it how

[trim estuary]

definitely not covering anything

[serene chasm]

spoilers are allowed fool

[naive flax]

are there any fake screenshots with the knight?

[vagrant umbra]

Here you go:

#sk-discussion message

[naive flax]

oh yeah true

[vagrant umbra]

[cerulean sable]

playing through death gambit now

i really get what people means by the fear that SS combat complexity

rather the controls

currently in DG the controls are
X is attack
Y is ability
B is dodge
A is jump
Right Trigger is 2nd weapon
Left Trigger is shield/block
Left Trigger + Y is ability 1
Left Trigger + B is ability 2
Left Trigger + A is ability 3
Left Trigger + B is guard break/slide
Left Trigger + Down is parry
Right Bumper is heal, right trigger is 2nd weapon
Left Bumper is climb
Left, Right, Up pads is change consumable
Down is interact

and the game helps you by adding visible inputs but i still sometimes forget that "oh this button is the ability" yada yada yada

BUT

im like 30 minutes into the game and half of the controls are already muscle memory for me except for the spells

so yeah i think SS will essentially be

1. wont be that complex in terms of asking for inputs
2. you just need to get used to it and eventually it becomes 2nd nature

in HK youre like "fuck wheres the spell button" in your first playthrough, but an hour or so later you just instinctively slam on the right bumper to use spells

SS demo doesnt help the fact that youre both pressured by the booth operator, the 20 people behind the line waiting for their turn, and youre limited to a 30 minute window

I think the issue will more on putting stuff on the same button prompt (ie Hold B to heal, Tap B to spell etc) but i trust TC they wont really go too convoluted with it

[serene chasm]

In Team Cherry we trust

[brave stone]

In Milk we trust

[coarse leaf]

hey people do you guys actually think that SS will be released Feb. 1st?

[serene chasm]

No. It could release in Feb, but it would be a coincidence and have nothing to do with the nvidia thing

[brave stone]

I don't but there is a small small chance it will be close to the real date

[coarse leaf]

Why is there a guy named Graig on the TC role? Is he actually on TC?

[brave stone]

lead play tester

and voice of sly

[coarse leaf]

My personal theory is that is when it comes to nvidia, and the Holidays might be closer to reveal/release/

[coarse leaf]

oh ok

[brave stone]

We will see at this year's video game awards

I think that's where the news will be if any

[untold inlet]

whoa we hit 150k members

to celebrate this server should have a giveaway of a silksong copy

[analog forge]

Nice try swiper

[serene chasm]

For 150k I should get a copy of SS

[brave stone]

You can redeem the code Milksong for one fee copy of Zote Boat though

[untold inlet]

ok but imagine if that actually happened, 150k people competing for one copy of the game

this server would go fucking wild, i can't imagine what the mods' DMs would look like

there'd probably be actual bribery attempts

[brave stone]

I can offer one copy of Milksong

no one can beat that

[coarse leaf]

Honestly? I think that it might actually be there. If I'm honest, though, it's still possible that they don't show anything for another year. Just don't be surprised when Silksong allows multiple universal simulations and unlocks the meaning of life. I'm mostly joking.

[coarse leaf]

I can offer one copy of Song

What is with all these Deltarune pfps? It's not|| t||||h||||a||||t|||| ||||g||||o||||o||||d||.

[brave stone]

TC has always done news in december I hope they don't break the streek

[coarse leaf]

JK I love Deltarune

[serene chasm]

Too late. The Deltafans are coming for you.

[brave stone]

It is actually from undertale has been my PFP for a long time

[coarse leaf]

Breaking News! We updated the shade for Hornet's cloak! See you next year!

[coarse leaf]

Oh really? Cool!

[coarse leaf]

How does me come for itslef?

[brave stone]

Ah yes Hornets cloak was changed from Burgundy to Maroon

[serene chasm]

Finally. Maroon is the obviously better colour

[coarse leaf]

They also updated the hornet voice to pitch it down 0.000000004%

And, if you datamine the code, you will see that hornet's left and right facing sprites were swapped.

Really good Silksong updates. It's just a shame that we can't compare them to the originals in person though.

[barren roost]

Wait I have fans?

[coarse leaf]

Maybe these $67 belubucks will be useful one day

[brave stone]

Funny thing is I bet Team Cherry does not know what Hornet cloak true color is. In the Edge article drawn Ari it is red, same with much of the promo material, it is maroon on the plush by fangamer, but is Burgundy in game so which one is it?

[coarse leaf]

It's a really dark shade of pink.

[serene chasm]

No. No one likes Delta Airlines

[coarse leaf]

Yeah, they don't even have three-seat rows. 4/10

[coarse leaf]

If your pronouns are anything, can we refer to you as smoked onion?

[brave stone]

This is burgundy and this is her cloak

[coarse leaf]

her cloak looks like a muted color

[brave stone]

it is really close

[coarse leaf]

like lipstick or something

burgundy looks like a rust blood color

[barren roost]

delta airlines itself is a lot like an onion: it's red and shiny on the surface, but once you go a little deeper, you start to cry

[brave stone]

it also makes TONS of sense lore wise to be Burgundy because it is a "royal" color

[coarse leaf]

Jesus Christ, I almost feel like a internet cliché phrase like that was set up for.

[barren roost]

It's a lot lighter than that Burgundy

[coarse leaf]

I think TC just went "haha muted red color go brrrrrr" (it looks muted to fit with HK's dead asthetic, I think)

Wait

can we have a Deltarune (DR) discussion channel?

that would be very cool.

[radiant wraith]

Find DR server

[coarse leaf]

Okay

[brave stone]

no all the weaver have a similar shade of cloak to hers

[radiant wraith]

There is one I think

[barren roost]

Why would we have a discussion channel for a different series from a different developer?

[coarse leaf]

That was certainly intentional. It makes a lot of sense from a lore perspective. Those spiders dressed her up like themselves. Narcissists.

[brave stone]

This is her cloaks pure Hex color

https://color-hex.org/color/79414b

[serene chasm]

This is top tier SS discussion

[brave stone]

I grabbed the hex code from her sprite from the wiki

it is a red purple pink brick color. But I think is closest to and meant to be Burgundy because it is a royal color

[main pilot]

Yeah this is actually smart discussion

Rare

[serene chasm]

I think its best to base her cloak colour off of official art and not in game sprites

[brave stone]

Like I bet we will get some cool lore on why her cloak is the color is the way it is

[vivid bison]

New SilkSong design this is official

[serene chasm]

It use to be white, until

[brave stone]

I think the reason why it is read in official art is to catch the eyes

while in game it is a less distracting color

[coarse leaf]

I think in the art it was just muted, and/or the sprite in game appears different. The color is very likely just meant to be a burgundy.

[coarse leaf]

Yeah I can see that. The red looks amazing, but HK is known for its subtlety.

[coarse leaf]

New Ice Hornet confirmed for Sliksong?

[brave stone]

no

[coarse leaf]

what color is the knight's cloak? is it a blue or a grey?

[fallow rock]

blue

[coarse leaf]

knew it

[vivid bison]

grey

[brave stone]

hold on

[coarse leaf]

And is THK's cloak a redish brown or just a brown

[fallow rock]

also can we refer the knight as ghost for now on

[coarse leaf]

I almost want to see some cloak lore on the colors. Why exactly do the vessels have the blueish-reddish-greyish cloaks?

[coarse leaf]

Casper

[vivid bison]

THK's cloak is a deep grey with orange on the inside

[brave stone]

it actually in game is like a Navy Blue ish color

according to the hex codes

[coarse leaf]

THK's cloak always seemed to be very orange. Is that because of the background/lighting or the inner shade? (If you don't mind, can you make the orange the same color?)

That art makes TK's cloak look almost metalic in the light

I've always been confused about that drooping down part of THK's cloak. IK it's supposed to cover the non-arm, but it looks so out of place.

[fallow rock]

even though it was original sliver so it could have aged due to this.

[coarse leaf]

Yeah that legit doesn't look like a grey. It looks brownish. I think the slightly blue-grey color of Discord could be throwing me off though.

[fallow rock]

to me it`s more like a deep greenish grey

[coarse leaf]

Oh! I never thought it aged, I just thought it was changed. It makes sense; before you unchain THK it's armor is still there.

[coarse leaf]

yeah

[trim estuary]

yeah

ccmaci made a video on that i think

[coarse leaf]

Wasn't it on why they have cloaks at all, and less the colors?

[trim estuary]

🤷‍♂️

[coarse leaf]

I'll check

Yeah it was on why they wear cloaks, not the colors.

[serene chasm]

Maybe Hornet just likes red

[main pilot]

Maybe??

[coarse leaf]

On the topic of red, we don't actually know what blood looks like in HK. We've seen infection, soul, lifeblood, void, and silk (which itself might just be a form of souk)

[serene chasm]

bloos?

[fallow rock]

yeah but overtime things lose there different color so like for instance a penny for that due to being in the elements for the right condition it will turn form the standard copper brown to a dark green in the matter of years. since we don`t know how long the hollow knight has being the temple of the black egg (my guess a long time) it would make the most since that it's cloak would age due wear and the elements in the temple of the black egg.

[untold inlet]

idt bugs have anything resembling human blood

[coarse leaf]

It has one flaw: it can't weather, since the Black Egg was sealed by magic. Either it's and oversight, or the leak that let the infection get out was a physical one, not a magical one.

[fallow rock]

what

[main pilot]

Maybe it resembles power level

But then again the knight stays blue

[cerulean sable]

hear me out

Silksong KBM configuration

M1 for attack M2 for sprint

[coarse leaf]

KBM?

[cerulean sable]

KeyBoard Mouse

[main pilot]

Hm🙁

[cerulean sable]

Death's Gambit has it like that, WASD being movement

[coarse leaf]

Keyboard mouse (IMO) is only good for front-facing camera games. Everything else should be played with controller. (I M O)

[serene chasm]

L = Left
R = Right
U = Upward
A = Attack

[coarse leaf]

I just don't see that, those keys are based on a front-facing camera.

It would be weird (to me) to play a side scrolled like that

[coarse leaf]

Pink Knight confirmed for Valentine's Day update 2022!!!11!1

[main pilot]

Lol

[cerulean sable]

i know someone who uses KBM

and pretty much did P5 with it

it all boils down to preferences

i tried playing HK for the 5th time with a controller

went back to KBM after Mantis Lords

its not like HK uses a lot of analogue keys anyway

its up down left and right

[serene chasm]

Im use to controller, but it doesnt seem like one is better than the other

[cerulean sable]

unless they start implementing 360 angle nail slashes

i think i might go for KBM again on SS

[coarse leaf]

I think generaly controller is more comfortable/better for your hands, but yeah it really is just personal preference.

[serene chasm]

no scope 360 straight pin headshots

[cerulean sable]

i get the opposite problem, i couldnt play a lot of controller games for long because my hands starts cramping with how small my hands are

[coarse leaf]

Sly's wings (I think you mean cloak?) used to be red?

[coarse leaf]

Then, there is only one solution. GEt bigger hands.

waht

Holy fuck yeah

Arent his wings still red in godhome?

yeah

I wish TC put the Godhome bosses in the base-game. Obviously PV and AR can't, but everything else can, to some extent. (Also, why can't you have THK and Radiance in Godhome? Just make the new ones dream variants. I get it from a lore perspective but from gameplay it's super annoying.)

[olive bobcat]

THK and Rad are easily replayable

[fiery coral]

AR's already in the base game, just increase regular Rad's attack speed by like 2x and attack waves by +1 or something

[cerulean sable]

afaik Graig said Rad was originally as difficult or close to AR

[fiery coral]

yeah I've heard that

would be terrible

[tawdry valley]

Godhome is the base game though

[fiery coral]

[coarse leaf]

In a way.

[trim estuary]

🤮

[serene chasm]

ttacco better be right about TGA

[coarse leaf]

To
Get
Announced

[misty whale]

hey another orange enthusiast

cool

[coarse leaf]

thats like what now 3?

[misty whale]

fr? nice

wait

the colour or the fruit

[coarse leaf]

the colour

[misty whale]

hell yeah

[coarse leaf]

im not disgusting

also just look at my pronouns smh shaking head rolling_eyes

[misty whale]

I always have to check

there are orange (fruit) supporters everywhere

I never know who to trust

[crimson token]

oranges are just lemons without any fun

or mandarins, but more annoying to eat

[wary marlin]

Silksong

[tawdry valley]

Lemons will literally taste sour and only sour and you picked them over an orange

[crimson token]

lemons are great

I love sour things

and they absolutely have more taste than just sour, you're just too much of a wimp to be able to taste it

[tawdry valley]

Bro “go suck on a lemon” is literally considered offensive

[crimson token]

so?

[tawdry valley]

How are lemons any more or less annoying to eat

If you tell me you bite into the peel I’m gonna lose it

[crimson token]

oranges are more annoying to eat than mandarins

and lemons are nicer to eat than oranges

if I'm going to go through the annoyance of having to cut a fruit, I would rather eat a lemon than an orange

[tawdry valley]

You can peel an orange though

[crimson token]

yeah, you can do that with a lemon too

[copper knot]

fuck fruits

[crimson token]

it's just more annoying than peeling a mandarin

[tawdry valley]

Cry about cucumber boy

[copper knot]

what

[crimson token]

cucumber is a fruit

[copper knot]

what

[crimson token]

same with pumpkins and eggplants

[tawdry valley]

Well I be damned

[copper knot]

ok but most fruits are disgusting

[crimson token]

I agree, but the most popular fruits aren't

pumpkin, tomato, eggplant, zucchini, all disgusting

[copper knot]

tomato is acceptable

[crimson token]

but bananas, apples, lemons, mandarins, all amazing

[copper knot]

bananas are acceptable

[tawdry valley]

You eat lemons and hate tomatoes

[crimson token]

tomatoes are disgusting

[copper knot]

but other fruits are shit
fuck apples fuck oranges fuck lemons fuck pears

[tawdry valley]

Have you only ever had mushy tomatoes?

[crimson token]

I've had all kinds of tomatoes

prepared in every imaginable way, and I never like them

[copper knot]

tomato by itself is disgusting but have you tried putting tomato in soup

shit slaps man

[timid hull]

Playing hollow knight on my ps5 was really fun tbh I’m not really happy that I’ll have to buy silk song on switch though

[tawdry valley]

I can understand hesitation in regards to raw tomato

[copper knot]

honestly the only fruit that i really like are durians. they are fucking amazing

[timid hull]

Eat tomatos with the skin on

[crimson token]

silksong's gonna be on other platforms too, dwagoon

[copper knot]

we need more durian representation

[crimson token]

durian is ass

[timid hull]

Yeah but it’s going to be on switch on release (which is ass)

[copper knot]

excuse me how dare you

[tawdry valley]

But you just told me you tried every popular culinary method of preparation for the tomato, and found nothing remotely appealing

[crimson token]

yes

[timid hull]

Also tbh what were they thinking with the healing mechanic

[copper knot]

imagine not liking durians

[timid hull]

I don’t like it

[crimson token]

whenever tomato is placed in a soup/stew/mince, it's my least favourite part of it

[crimson token]

in hk or in what we've seen of ss?

[modest night]

What about lasagna

[copper knot]

thats a pasta

[timid hull]

They said the ss healing mechanic is very quick,heals 3 hearts but takes away your entire silk thing

[modest night]

Yeah but there is tomato in the preparation

[copper knot]

what kind of lasagna have you been eating

[crimson token]

there's tomato in the mince of the lasagna

[modest night]

You know the normal kind?

[crimson token]

still my least favourite part of it

[modest night]

I see

[copper knot]

oh you mean ketchup

[modest night]

Very fair

No ketchup is disgusting

[crimson token]

no, tomato

[tawdry valley]

I’m trying to triangulate what culinary environment you grew up in.
You’re definitely not Mainland European, or you’d be executed by now.
If you’re British then that’s just hilarious.
Americans are not exactly high ranking in regards to culinary palette but they have tomatoes in everything.

[copper knot]

i mean the sauce

[crimson token]

my guy, I've lived in 5 different countries

[copper knot]

not ketchup my bad

[timid hull]

Mr world wide

[crimson token]

I've always hated tomatoes

[copper knot]

i thought when you said tomato in lasagna you put a whole ass raw tomato in it

[crimson token]

no, you cut it up into small chunks and put it in the mince

[timid hull]

I’m afraid they’ll have too many fetch quests in silk song

Because I remember seeing a glimpse of one of the quests and it was a fetch quest

[modest night]

I hate tomato sauce when there is chunks in it

[crimson token]

fetch quests are fine

[modest night]

Theyre annoying imo

[timid hull]

Not really entertaining though

[crimson token]

too many fetch quests are not fine, but fetch quests are fine

[modest night]

Unless its along the natural progression of the game

[crimson token]

technically, the nail upgrades in hk are fetch quests

[copper knot]

honestly some quests should just be optional

that wont stop me from 1000000%ing the game but still

[timid hull]

Technically the three wardens are fetch quests

[tawdry valley]

Fetch quests are nearly what define a quest. They get a bad rep because games with little map traversal mechanics have a habit of placing them everywhere

[modest night]

Yeah but you dont really notice it since its organic with the exploration in general

[crimson token]

yeah, they're just collect quests

[modest night]

If its just farm until you have enough items its boring

[tawdry valley]

“You can fast travel, walk, or ride a horse.
Spend half your time traveling and only traveling”

[copper knot]

actually, do yall plan to 100% complete silksong or just finish it and get it over with

[crimson token]

100+%

[modest night]

100%

[copper knot]

same

[timid hull]

If they do another pantheon in silk song I will cry

[modest night]

Sigh one day we'll actually play it

[crimson token]

I'll get whatever the maximum percentage is

[tawdry valley]

Cry for eternity

[timid hull]

The pantheon in hollow knight was so ass

Hello let’s lock the true ending behind the most unfun boss rush ever

[modest night]

I think it used to be 100% before the dlcs were added in hk? Might be wrong tho

[copper knot]

since when is etv the true ending

[tawdry valley]

There’s no true ending, and if there was one, it wouldn’t be that one

[crimson token]

the ending at the end of pantheon 5 is the true ending

[timid hull]

I haven’t even seen the ending of the pantheon out of spite

[copper knot]

no

[crimson token]

it's literally confirmed to be the true ending

[copper knot]

there is no true ending in hollow knight bro

[copper knot]

source

[timid hull]

There will be when silk song comes out

[crimson token]

specifically, the ending where you give a delicate flower to the godseeker and beat pantheon 5

[timid hull]

Because it’s either a prequel or a sequel

[tawdry valley]

Bro I have developer quote right here with “we don’t believe in true endings” attached to the start of an explanation on how they perceive player narrative

[copper knot]

im pretty sure the beginning of silksong is gonna be open ended

[pallid flare]

I don't think they made a true ending

[crimson token]

silksong is a sequel, set after the events of hk, and the ending that leads into it is the one where you beat pantheon 5 and the godseeker has a delicate flower

[timid hull]

That’s actually dumb but whateves

[crimson token]

I'm like 99% sure on this

[copper knot]

where the hell did you get that from

[modest night]

You guys remember when there was that fight between prequelists and sequelists

[pallid flare]

how do you know that it's a sequel

[modest night]

Yeah that

[pallid flare]

isn't that still going?

[modest night]

Is it

[copper knot]

im an alternate universist

[modest night]

Like people would have hours long arguments

[tawdry valley]

Literally a function to preserve narrative integrity

[crimson token]

that was also 4 years ago

[copper knot]

doesnt make it any less true

[pallid flare]

they haven't changed their opinion on that did they?

[tawdry valley]

Developers need to restate their statements on subjects to ensure they do not expire

[copper knot]

small brain: prequelist
medium brain: sequelist
big brain: midquelist

me, an intellectual: alternate universist

[crimson token]

mossbag probably has a video I could find

[timid hull]

We do not do true endings because 48;?$;6:$?/$!

[tawdry valley]

Yeah where he cites that comment I bet

Too bad that mossbag video is 2 or so years old and now allegedly up for scrutiny

[copper knot]

[tawdry valley]

Cause they see individual player interactions and choices as their own narrative paths. Saving bretta, fighting zote, Grimm troupe, etc

[crimson token]

oh right, just checked, you're right about it not being confirmed as the true ending

[timid hull]

I mean like the fact that one of the games shops can get completely locked up is kinda stupid

[crimson token]

I think if there is a true ending, that would be the most likely candidate though, as it ends with hornet preparing to face off against something, and in the silksong reveal, she's been captured

[tawdry valley]

As for Silksong,
-it’s very likely a sequel.
-TC will be vague about it as much as they can
-or will write it to whichever they choose

[timid hull]

Why did they make it where nail master ORO can die

[crimson token]

silksong is almost definitely a sequel, because there's nothing that implies that hornet has left the kingdom before the events of hk

[tawdry valley]

You understand they don’t want to confirm any ending as canon to preserve individual playthrough integrity

[crimson token]

yeah

[tawdry valley]

All endings are capable of leading into the events of silksong

[timid hull]

ALL?

[tawdry valley]

For that reason.

[timid hull]

Especially that one where hornet DIES

[tawdry valley]

Yes. Even the one where she’s in the egg.

[timid hull]

How

[crimson token]

I don't think that one is capable of leading into silksong

if silksong is a prequel, it would be possible

[tawdry valley]

So team cherry thinks that ending is non canon then

[crimson token]

but it can't really lead into silksong if she's trapped in the egg

[timid hull]

Also I think in some endings radiance doesn’t die

[pallid flare]

something something seal breaking bugs

[crimson token]

ending 1 and 2, radiance doesn't die

[tawdry valley]

Or:
Seals have been seen to be breakable
Seals have been broken
Hornet is clearly not dead, as a standing dreamer icon would imply

[crimson token]

but radiance also doesn't need to die for the events of silksong

[timid hull]

Can someone tell me why radiance wants to destroy hollow nest I don’t rembr

[crimson token]

she's pissed off that hallownest stopped loving her and started following the pale king

[timid hull]

The disease is still a thing so it can possibly fuck up the new kingdom hornet went to

[tawdry valley]

Any elements of hallownest are irrelevant to Silksong, excluding Hornet and the weavers

[crimson token]

and she's a spiteful bitch

[crimson token]

not if the egg remains sealed

[tawdry valley]

Or is. You know. Dying in a way

[pallid flare]

hornet gets kidnapped to a land quite a bit away from hallownest

I don't think the radiance can reach her there

[tawdry valley]

The disease is hardly a physical contagion.

[crimson token]

ending 4 is also hard to justify as leading into ss

[tawdry valley]

It’s not like hallownest is a quarantine zone

[crimson token]

considering that the entire world is consumed by void

[tawdry valley]

so your proposed true ending is now one where Silksong is impossible…?

[crimson token]

ending 5 is not the same as ending 4

[copper knot]

.-.

[tawdry valley]

And no, we don’t know what shadelord does post ETV

[crimson token]

in ending 5, the world is distinctly not consumed by void

my proposed true ending is ending 5

[copper knot]

theres literally no true ending

[tawdry valley]

#sk-discussion message

[crimson token]

my proposed ending that would be most likely to be the true ending if there was one is ending 5

[tawdry valley]

I don’t know what to tell you. We don’t know for sure what happens in either case, and if they were to ever confirm, they would write an ending that was capable of leading into ss regardless, for the sake of narrative integrity

[tawdry valley]

Okay but your proposition is directly contesting the game developers established narrative

[crimson token]

yeah, but that post about there not being a singular true ending was made before they were ever even going to make silksong

[tawdry valley]

Now where did you get that idea

[crimson token]

not saying that it's necessarily untrue, just that plans change, and it's not the most reliable source anymore

[lament lotus]

isnt silksong before the hollow knight

[crimson token]

imo, silksong is almost definitely not a prequel

[tawdry valley]

Yes, which is why they very clearly show us which ending Hornet is extracted from in the Silksong opening cutscene

[tawdry valley]

No joke, with how TC has been, they may very well leave that question ambiguous throughout the game purposely.

[crimson token]

I wouldn't be surprised

[tawdry valley]

More likely than not though, especially given the weavers, yeah it’s probably a sequel

[crimson token]

also considering how hornet has had reason to stay in hallownest for her entire life

and her leaving before the events of hk doesn't really make much sense

since she was basically the sole protector of hallownest until the knight showed up

[tawdry valley]

Regardless, the standing fact of the matter is that TC sees individual playthroughs as self contained valid stories.
Even if Silksong wasn’t in production during godmaster, and planned right after the Kickstarter (albeit as a content pack) team cherry releasing Silksong as a sequel does not violate that policy.

There isn’t a true ending or even a more probable one, by function and intention of the chosen narrative design.

[crimson token]

so what we've ascertained is that there may or may not be a singular true ending, and if there is or isn't a true ending, then silksong may be either a prequel or sequel

[tawdry valley]

And again.
This really should be enough for you:

[crimson token]

or in other words, we have no clue

it really isn't

[tawdry valley]

Incorrect, we know that Silksong can happen from any given ending or set of HK player choices

Which variation of these choices has persisted is up to you, if any.

[crimson token]

yeah

[tawdry valley]

That’s the trivial stuff out of the way

@crimson token now elaborate on every dish you’ve tried that uses tomato as a main ingredient, that you have found revolting

[crimson token]

no

man, saying no when people want me to do things is fun

literally one of my favourite things to do

[tawdry valley]

Don’t elaborate on every tomato dish you’ve tried that you have not liked

[crimson token]

okay

[tawdry valley]

Note that this was a joke though

I don’t actually care if people are not ideological clones of everyone else

[crimson token]

I do care

because everyone should think like me because I'm always correct

imagine being wrong, couldn't be me

[tawdry valley]

Well it could, if you were responsible for the creation of the drywall in your home

Tastes horrible

[crimson token]

considering that you're the one advocating the consumption of drywall, I think you're wrong here

[tawdry valley]

No this very definitely could use salt

[stark estuary]

SS can take place after any of the five endings and I highly doubt TC will clarify that it takes place after any specific one.

Prequel is unlikely for reasons I won't get into. There is no "True Ending". If it helps think of them as five different equally canon timelines which all lead to the events of SS.

[outer bridge]

ik that’s just how it is but it’s still annoying tbh

I wanna fight Bill

Shade Lord that is

[stark estuary]

Same, but there's no way Hornet could do jack shit to it.

[crimson token]

one of my favourite parts of hk is that every ending is a bad ending for the knight

[stark estuary]

Not true

[tawdry valley]

Shadelord is functionally and essentially still the knight

[stark estuary]

TK does pretty well for itself in both DNM and EtV

[crimson token]

yeah, but is it?

[tawdry valley]

Dream no more is also a pretty decent gig

[stark estuary]

It becomes a HB and is just chillin' with its Siblings

[crimson token]

I don't really consider shadelord to be tk

like, I understand that it is

but just in terms of how I feel about them

[stark estuary]

Can you elaborate?

[crimson token]

no

[stark estuary]

[crimson token]

that's not me saying no to be a pain in the ass, I just legitimately don't think I can

they just don't feel like the same

[stark estuary]

I get that. You can argue VGForm doesn't "feel" like TK either. Hell, TK post-VH/LoS is notably different from TK at the start of the game.

Where VGFocus/SL is just VGForm in a stronger form (pun intended)

[crimson token]

what's vgform/vgfocus?

[stark estuary]

VGForm is the appearance TK takes in DnM. Writhing tentacles and THK-esque horns. VGFocus is the canon name of Shade Lord/Bill.

[crimson token]

ah

[shy kiln]

Kirb where Bill pfp?

[stark estuary]

Gone.

[cerulean sable]

silskong moment where hornet

goes to the baseement

and plays a guitar

and she sings an obvious award bait attempt mellow acoustic song

sung non other but makoto koji herself

[pallid flare]

isnt that the last of us

[cerulean sable]

well i was referencing Bioshock Infinite but you can argue theyre the same since

1. Booker is also voiced by Joel's voice actor
2. Main characters both have the same father "scruffy, pissed off alcoholic dude in his 40s" and daughter "young girl he never met before" dynamic

[cerulean sable]

End of year update is no longer a hope

Rather, it is a necessity, a guarantee, an inevitability

[fiery coral]

Amen to that

[heavy bluff]

if theres no silksong news by the end of the year im storming hallownest

[pallid flare]

amen

[hushed wasp]

empty threats

[heavy bluff]

true

[winter cypress]

do we know who this goober is yet?

[cerulean sable]

not yet

[winter cypress]

aw shame he looks cute

[normal token]

Ye, can't wait to kill them!

[radiant wraith]

Man, so much stuff

[hollow smelt]

Yes we do thats gerald

Idfk

[uncut citrus]

insert Gerald my beloved

Wait wrong reply pop

[nimble radish]

stands for video game

[uncut citrus]

VG stands for Void Given

[stark estuary]

Haha Lori, now your joke doesn't make sense.

[uncut citrus]

Ok fixed sorry Kirbmas

[nimble radish]

they generally don't

[stark estuary]

True

[normal token]

Video game form

[stark estuary]

Video Game Focus

Video Game Fingers

[uncut citrus]

That could be another way to say like « my fingers are strong I got gamer fingers »

Everyone knows climbers got years of video game training

[cerulean sable]

« Isn't this how Ace Combat characters talk »

[sweet lotus]

hi I'm Todd is Silksong out?

[pallid flare]

you're not todd

[uncut citrus]

But silksong is out in the making

[sweet lotus]

yeah, I'm not ...