sk-discussion

[burnt topaz]

i remember nothing from hollow knight, i forgot fungal wastes name earlier

[opaque sigil]

Aside from maybe the master herald

[pallid flare]

that's one of the best things discord can do ngl

[fallow rock]

wh0

[hollow smelt]

[burnt topaz]

me

[pallid flare]

between that and taking 3 years to implement adding the spoiler marking to pictures on mobile

[fallow rock]

no not hin'

[pallid flare]

hornet

I win

[fallow rock]

okay give another one

[burnt topaz]

bardoon

[pallid flare]

no

[serene chasm]

Salubra, Elderbug, Cornifer, Iselda, Lemm, Sheo, Nailmaster, Oro, Mato, That crazy bitch in CoT

Leg Eater, Zote, Bretta

[fallow rock]

whos the last one

[tribal merlin]

menderbug

[burnt topaz]

emelitia i think

[fallow rock]

really why her

[burnt topaz]

she lives throughout the events of hollow knight

[fallow rock]

yeah

[burnt topaz]

unless you specifically want characters that have a chance in silksong?

[serene chasm]

Isnt the question what npcs survive the infection?

[fallow rock]

yes

[burnt topaz]

then she survived the infection

[pallid flare]

Myla can survive if you don't trigger crystal heart

[burnt topaz]

thats very much the unintended way of beating hk though

[coarse leaf]

bruh it was revealed since 2019

[hollow smelt]

@pallid flare hey pyro can i use your 112 file to fight PV?

mine is 108 but i dont want to do p3 and all of p4 rn just wanna do funny man

[pallid flare]

I don't know if I have one

hold on i'll dm you if I do

[hollow smelt]

aight thanks chief

[fallow rock]

jokes on graig he was right

[burnt topaz]

the jokes still on us, he gets to play silksong

[fallow rock]

what

[burnt topaz]

he's a playtester

currently the best silksong player in the world

[fallow rock]

what the godseeker be alive after the embrace the void ending or no

[burnt topaz]

doesnt look it to be honest, being consumed by an all encompassing void doesnt do good on the heart id imagine

[fallow rock]

i bet that guys going to spoil the entire plot and some game play of silksong on us i just know it

[burnt topaz]

Im really not a lore expert though

[opaque sigil]

Godseeker's alive in the sense that her consciousness is intact

[serene chasm]

everyone you loved in HK is dead

[burnt topaz]

except for hornet

[fallow rock]

we don`t know that

[pallid flare]

but hornet is alive???

[serene chasm]

Or is she!

[pallid flare]

did you just change your pfp

[burnt topaz]

thats a cute looking pumpkin

[serene chasm]

yes

[pallid flare]

cute red panda 10/10

[serene chasm]

Gotta have something for spooky month

[viral pivot]

oooo nice pumpkin

and cute red panda too

[tawdry valley]

I don’t get it; I see 2 red pandas.

[iron spear]

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1867450639/ailuri-a-hand-drawn-2d-platformer-adventure

If you like red pandas

Back this game

[serene chasm]

Already have, but thanks for sharing the link

[languid linden]

Curly they're making you a game?

Oh damn this actually looks really cool

[serene chasm]

Its a really big honor

[pallid flare]

oh my god hand drawn red pandas

[languid linden]

ooh demo

[silver oak]

No advertising in general

[languid linden]

Oh yeah true, Simo get him

[pallid flare]

simo please ban

THERE'S A PLUSH OF IT

[trim estuary]

[shell yacht]

idk why my chat scrolled so far up, so late response, but without flower, maybe. TK is the core of shadelord, and Hornet is unhurt being covered in void in Dream no more, so possibly Godseeker survives being used as a door

[nimble steppe]

Graig dropped by cool

[coarse leaf]

what the actual f 😳 that seems specific

[opaque sigil]

26 month old ping

[pallid flare]

that was two whole years agod

[opaque sigil]

It was a joke

[coarse leaf]

and why say 2022 and not any other year 👁👁👁👁👁👁👁

[opaque sigil]

You can't be serious

[pallid flare]

every four letter number must mean something tammo you do not understan

[analog lily]

it's graig, don't tell me your beliving him on this

[shell yacht]

you know better tammo

theyre always serious

[opaque sigil]

That's just insane. "Oh graig jokingly said this year in 2019 yeah that means something"

[shell yacht]

real shit would be scrounging for comments about Hornet dlc

[primal oriole]

it was also literally a response to somebody else claiming it would come out in 2022

[coarse leaf]

Well we have a saying in Spain that goes something like "between jokes the truth comes up"

[shell yacht]

interesting phrase

[opaque sigil]

That's not applicable

[tribal merlin]

nah to get to the real news one has to ignore context, that's common knowledge.
that's also how we got the information that they're just polishing from Leth

[pallid flare]

well you could say

[coarse leaf]

oh now they're polishing

[pallid flare]

no they are not

it was a reference to this https://twitter.com/griffinmatta/status/1346527190754746370

Matthew Griffin (@griffinmatta)

I’ve seen this discord message of mine quoted, but out of context...

I made it during a discussion about how hard it would be for fans to estimate a game’s release date, even if the developer said that their game was “XX% done” or “in final testing”.

Careful out there! <3

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Twitter · Jan 5, 2021, 6:41 PM

[serene chasm]

sadly no polishing

[tribal merlin]

and it was taken out of context by people of course.
but you should have picked up on my sentence being bs by the time I said one should ignore context

[serene chasm]

#sk-discussion - We take everything out on context

[shell yacht]

SS disc doesnt know what context is

[pallid flare]

what's context? what are you guys talking about??

[tribal merlin]

they don't even know what ss-discussion means

[coarse leaf]

doesn't look like they're finnishing either

[fallow rock]

i was talking about the embrace the void ending

[opaque sigil]

So was he

[shell yacht]

in both endongs TK iscontrollimg the void

so safety is a possibilty

ignore the typos plz

[fallow rock]

context is nonexistence for this channel and this will gain no context no matter how much silksong gives us

if it gives us anything

[shell yacht]

[fallow rock]

also would sharpe create machines to capture hornet or no

[tribal merlin]

sharpe doesn't look like an engineer to me

[serene chasm]

Sharpe solves problems

[opaque sigil]

He's an assassin, he's probably just going to kill her

[fallow rock]

if the steel soul assassins create machine if they can`t take care of her with normal means

[stark estuary]

What

[fallow rock]

so to reference the meme "MODERN PROBLEMS CALL FOR MODERN SOLUTIONS"

[stark estuary]

The "machines" could also just...kill her

[fallow rock]

but the priest want her alive so killing her would be out of the question

[opaque sigil]

You don't send assassins when you want somebody alive

[fallow rock]

well in this case they did

[tribal merlin]

they invent a machine out of metal that's long and flat and has a point on one end and a handle on the other

[serene chasm]

#shittysslore

[olive bobcat]

"Hornet made this on a bench! With a box of shells!"

[opaque sigil]

Sharpe is a hunter from a distant land. He’s tasked with eliminating Hornet and he’s not come alone.
"eliminating" Hornet means killing her

[olive bobcat]

Who's the priest

[fallow rock]

the bell cult

[olive bobcat]

That doesn't answer the question, who's the priest

[serene chasm]

[opaque sigil]

The steel faction isn't associated with the citadel caste

[fallow rock]

all followers of religion need a priest

[opaque sigil]

No

[shell yacht]

Pharloom is actually a country of cults, everyones in one and rarely the same one

[olive bobcat]

So you made up a character on an assumption, and are now trying to theorize based on that made up character?

[fallow rock]

or maybe i might just rambling like a insane madman

well back to normal silksong talk is it a prequel or a squeal

[shell yacht]

sequel

[olive bobcat]

sequel

[coarse leaf]

prequel

[serene chasm]

sequel and lets not

[glossy gazelle]

We really doing this again?

[serene chasm]

Nope

[analog lily]

Silksong is clearly inbetween hornet 1 and 2 fights

[glossy gazelle]

That discussion has worn it’s luster

[fallow rock]

and i was trying a different conversation starter

[shell yacht]

TOOLS

tools tooOLs tOOls TooLs

[analog lily]

tools

[shell yacht]

🛠️

[olive bobcat]

Check it out

[fallow rock]

🔨

[analog lily]

🧰

[olive bobcat]

Discuss (fake image)

[shell yacht]

🔧

[glossy gazelle]

[shell yacht]

my brains fried ok

[coarse leaf]

nicely done tho

[hollow yarrow]

very epic looking if anyone was to make a mod

[analog lily]

isn't there already a lace mod?

[hollow yarrow]

yeees. but like. a bigger silksong mod

because team cherry is taking too long

[olive bobcat]

Sounds like the demo remake ngl

[glossy gazelle]

There’s a demo remake?

[analog lily]

you want to make SS?

[olive bobcat]

No

[serene chasm]

Demo remakes are cursed

[olive bobcat]

They are

[fallow rock]

the arena they fight in is reference the code BLOOM

[glossy gazelle]

I’d imagine someone could make a demo remake of SS, but that begs the question of why

[analog lily]

well someone remade the SS demo in pixel form

[olive bobcat]

It'd have to be the right people

[languid linden]

[glossy gazelle]

Huh

[olive bobcat]

Otherwise it just falls apart

[glossy gazelle]

I mean I do wonder if theoretically someone did that, and it catches Team Cherry’s attention somehow

[olive bobcat]

History repeats itself 🕐

[analog lily]

yeah someone made it

[glossy gazelle]

I mean a non pixel version

[serene chasm]

Team Cherry does not pay attention to the outside world

[olive bobcat]

Yes

[analog lily]

oh that hasn't been made yet i don't think

[olive bobcat]

It's been tried a couple times

[glossy gazelle]

I guess so

[olive bobcat]

Let's make demo remac 3

[fallow rock]

this sounds like were walking on dangerous lawyer terroity

[fallow rock]

overruled

[olive bobcat]

fake

[analog lily]

and then the conversation dissaperaed in a flash

[serene chasm]

what conversation?

[trim estuary]

Alright

[still elm]

scam

[nimble steppe]

Mods are quick

[still elm]

sure are

[opaque sigil]

Man how is that scam so effective that so many people keep falling for it

[still elm]

i didn't click on it

[opaque sigil]

Good, you really shouldn't

[serene chasm]

nitro scam?

[opaque sigil]

ofc

[serene chasm]

People really want those animated emotes I guess

[hollow sedge]

i swear that scam is everywhere lmao

[analog lily]

I think the sever should make an @ashen oareveryone ping telling peoople not to click the link

[opaque sigil]

[analog lily]

oh oops, didn't mean to ping someone again

[warm bone]

@everyone

[pallid flare]

who pinged?

[languid linden]

hey

[opaque sigil]

I mean it seems like whenever somebody falls for it it hijacks the acct and uses it to post more links

[analog lily]

ahh why does this not work any more

[copper knot]

das true actually

[hollow sedge]

yeah probably, im really not sure whats to gain with a discord account though

[copper knot]

gain personal info

[analog lily]

whenever i type @ .everyone, it used to ping no one but apparently not anymore

[copper knot]

they sell a lot

[hollow sedge]

people need to activate two factor authentication on there accounts, that what I did to all of my accounts after losing my minecraft account

[opaque sigil]

I mean you could find my email and phone number with my discord account, which ig isn't nothing

[shell yacht]

brb hacking tammo to advertize my youtube channel

[serene chasm]

[e-mail]

[stark estuary]

I use a fake email

[copper knot]

@everyone pls sub to my youtube channel

[pallid flare]

password1

[languid linden]

And then banning Tammo on your main account for advertising

[shell yacht]

ez clap

[copper knot]

12345678

[serene chasm]

weird. All I see is * * * * * * * *

[olive bobcat]

Skill issue

[pallid flare]

wow, try yours!

[serene chasm]

hunter1

[copper knot]

yourmom69420

[pallid flare]

wow that's so cool!

[wooden sorrel]

Silk

[warm bone]

wow it censors your password, let me try

VCSHMncCvFEN3ypPHbQisMl2rY4OUU3GusAyJfGf3DOXiE8ngt908uzaSEA8bwhxWf1Z2vwWGAE9t4sV18lph6N9mA1IY82PgoZU

[pallid flare]

wow an empty message

[serene chasm]

Thats a lot of *

[wooden sorrel]

Silk

[coarse leaf]

There is any official silksong system req?

[opaque sigil]

Not yet, no

[warm bone]

I imagine they will be about the same as hk's

[opaque sigil]

Probably not too much worse, at least

Maybe even lighter

[pallid flare]

maybe it'll be heavier because of the added details

[opaque sigil]

But they also have Jack now, who's more experienced with Unity iirc

[void surge]

This is what's on steam I'ts as officieal as I can find

[opaque sigil]

He might be able to do things more efficiently

[opaque sigil]

It was just copied from HK, probably just meant as a placeholder

[fluid orchid]

Will my switch will be capable of running it?

[void surge]

mostlikely

[wooden sorrel]

Horn

[fluid orchid]

Beleive me for some updates of games the framerate us worse than playing Noita agains the final boss with a powerful wand

[void surge]

SS's trailer was played on the nintendo channel it's almost certain it will be able to run on switch

[fluid orchid]

The switch is good, has its power, but also have limits. In dead cell there is a huge framerate drop when you use the teleportation stones

[opaque sigil]

SS is being made with switch in mind, it'll probably run just fine

And HK ran fine

[fluid orchid]

Could be that the switch port is delaying it

[void surge]

I'd doubt it. I'm guessing they just either keep adding stuff which is good or they need to do the finishing touches and bug removal which takes ages also good

[fluid orchid]

The switch port was a demo, the levels were not complete by the moment, and that was almost 3 years ago

Hope they don't remove all the bugs

[void surge]

lol, you know what I mean though.

[fluid orchid]

Of course, I was only joking

Silksong is the only game where some bugs are welcome

[void surge]

Indeed

if anything I'm glad they are takeing their time more imte means more passion can be put into the game rather then cramming

[fluid orchid]

Hope it comes in february as the leak suggest, want to get it physical to keep it through the ages to come, also hopefully I'll get the collectors

I put 300aud in the crowsworn campaign

Want the plushie

With dual pistols, physical steelbook, artbook and ost

[opaque sigil]

The leak doesn't suggest anything

[fluid orchid]

No, but might be something, is more grounded that most supposed nuntendo direct that people get so excited

[opaque sigil]

It's equally grounded

[fluid orchid]

The leak was taken from the official Geforce datamines

[pallid flare]

who?

[opaque sigil]

Geforce testing databases with speculative/placeholder dates at best from a company that wouldn't have the release date

[fluid orchid]

It might be something, might be nithing, I will wait

[opaque sigil]

If SS does come out in February it'll be a coincidence

[void surge]

Don't get your hopes up at all. You will almost certinaly be dissapointed if you belive the leak was true.

[languid linden]

Yes we are an echo chamber

So is #hk-lore
And #hk-discussion
Yeah actually I think the whole server is made up of several echo chambers

[pallid flare]

we're one big echo chamber

[fluid orchid]

I play dead cells and work in stem research, dissapointment is my fuel

[pallid flare]

damn

[languid linden]

Yes

[coarse leaf]

We are not an echo chamber

[opaque sigil]

we are not an echo chamber
chamber
chamber

[fluid orchid]

Sorry if I ask for this here, zince I am in my thesis, but someone has the crowsworn discord?

[opaque sigil]

I sent it in dm

Posting server invites here is generally frowned upon

[fluid orchid]

Thanks

Of course, not asking to put it here, I assume people has common sense

[opaque sigil]

Advertising

[analog lily]

because of the no spaming and advertising rule

[cerulean sable]

and if i dont like red pandas 😡

[languid linden]

Wait what

Uh okay guess discord is just buggy

[opaque sigil]

Fordo's discord's having a stroke, nothing to see here

[languid linden]

My reddit too

[opaque sigil]

[languid linden]

Hey maybe I'm the one having the stroke!

[vivid belfry]

Graig is offline
News soon

[ocean coral]

[coarse leaf]

Where Graig

Miss him :(

[hollow terrace]

died in a pond

[green kraken]

ss got too hard

hes stuck

[chilly nexus]

This feels like what I was imagining Fearless Fox would be like, and even better it looks to have the quality of a TC game and is also made by 3 people. I'm backing

[proud vale]

You playtesting that one Graig?

[green kraken]

gameplay looks borng

[iron spear]

I don't know anything about the game other than cute panda

[proud vale]

is there much more to know than that?

Seems like the most important detail

[vivid belfry]

"main character cute" is a powerful force

[proud vale]

Zotesong will really struggle with that

[cerulean sable]

wow saw goku on this totally irrelevant pile of text

[vivid belfry]

gonku

[chilly nexus]

mb i didn't mean to @ you there tis a cute panda tho

[tropic crow]

I just changed the time in my PC to 2027 and there was still no release date

Meaning that silksong will release after 2027

[proud vale]

Thanks brave soldier

[serene chasm]

You just fucked up the time-space continuum and SS will never come out

[proud vale]

Shit, can we reset?

[serene chasm]

Well except in that one timeline where it comes out and is so good that it starts a world religion

[analog lily]

reset the space-time continuum? Wouldn't that makes us go back to the beginning of existance then?

[chilly nexus]

I'm ready to abdicate if you are

[serene chasm]

NG+

[fiery coral]

Abdication gives me 61.69 Gems?Alright I'm in

[chilly nexus]

just made more

tbh this is literally the best idle game I've ever played

evidence:

[fiery coral]

[chilly nexus]

it's called Realm Grinder, highly recommend using it to pass the time

(that includes offline time*)

I have had the game closed for years at a time, but that timer keeps count from when you first start playing

and the game is still expanding, giving me new things to do and unlock

[proud vale]

Damn that’s some play time

[proud vale]

Nice

[proud vale]

Is it grindy?

[chilly nexus]

as grindy as you'd expect an idle game to be :p often it comes down to buffing certain upgrades with unique builds, setting up a production build of your own using those buffed upgrades, and then restarting after a few seconds with your new amount of gems, or going offline for a while and letting it scale if you centred your build around upgrades that can scale

there's also tons of trophies, challenges, and secret new things and systems you unlock as you progress

the game is huge

[cerulean sable]

this is ur daily reminder to join the clan war

[proud vale]

[chilly nexus]

joined demons this abdication

[serene chasm]

Clan war?

[rotund aurora]

We coming up on 1000 days from the reveal

💀

22 days

[serene chasm]

22 days until SS comes out

[potent plover]

22 days until dissapointment

[serene chasm]

You cant be disappointed if you're always disappointed

[potent plover]

true

[vague heath]

only really grindy idle game ive played for a long time is cookie clicker

ive had a save going for a year no cheats, its going pretty well

[vague heath]

was gonna check the game out but

steam is dead

[serene chasm]

Its fine for me

[chilly nexus]

You'll love it. cookie clicker couldn't hook me, this one still has me hooked 👍

[serene chasm]

SS is an idle clicker game

[tawdry valley]

input baseless release date predictions and then claim clarivoyance when you are correct

[serene chasm]

SS comes on XX XX XXXX

[analog lily]

wrong, SS actually will come out on XX XX XXXXX

[proud vale]

[vague heath]

Guys, trust me I know when silksong releases

[trim estuary]

EXACTLY

[vague heath]

I know when silksong releases

[cerulean sable]

time to end the biggest debate

should hornet's cloak have hitboxes

[serene chasm]

Yes

[vivid belfry]

it doesn't and it shouldn't

[vague heath]

yes

[vivid belfry]

case dismissed

[serene chasm]

Does it not?

[vivid belfry]

not as of the demo as far as we've seen

[tawdry valley]

1/7/22 - 1/14/22 - 1/21/22 - 1/28/22
2/4/22 - 2/11/22 - 2/18/22 - 2/25/22
3/4/22 - 3/11/22 - 3/18/22 - 3/25/22
4/1/22 - 4/8/22 - 4/15/22 - 4/22/22 - 4/29/22
One of these dates may or may not be a release date.

[vivid belfry]

hornet's hitbox is as thin as her torso and as tall as her head minus her horns, or at least it looks that way based on how she collides with enemies

[analog lily]

the demo doesn't confirm anything that will be in the actual game though

[vague heath]

Ok, actually, probably not, wasn't there a clip where hornets hitbox would expand if that were the case?, when hornet is seemingly gliding down in the seth fight, that would possibly be annoying so the cloak probably wont be a hitbox

[vivid belfry]

she also has 3 randomized pogo animations with the same hitbox

[proud vale]

I mean the knights hitbox is also really forgiving

[tawdry valley]

hornet having a fat hitbox is less fun; bs on the players benifit is not BS, it is technically QoL.

just look at TK

[vivid belfry]

games are, in general, balanced to give the player an unfair advantage from a technical standpoint

[proud vale]

Take the fact that we can heal for example

[tawdry valley]

yeah but we also die in 5 hits

[fluid orchid]

You guys think that SS will have DLCs?

[vague heath]

probably

at least i'd think so

[serene chasm]

It will have a content update

[analog lily]

maybe not, becuase the whole point of DLC in HK was so that TC could put some of their ideas they wanted to put into the game but didn't really have enough time/money
Though SS has none of those problems

[tawdry valley]

Content updates in Hk were Kickstarter goals that came post release

[proud vale]

Depends how quick TC want to get a release

[serene chasm]

Im sure there will be something that will come up after release that they didnt think to add during development.

[vivid belfry]

oh shit they forgot to add Kevin

[proud vale]

Oh for sure - and I think there will probably be bug fix updates where they’ll add loose content

[tawdry valley]

Ninja Blevins Skin in Silksong; $19.99

[vague heath]

Ninja fortnite skin?\

[cerulean sable]

the horn hitboxes is what im actually concerned at tbh

like where to you put the line

what they just turn hornet's head into a box

[proud vale]

Only half of it is probably a hit box

[cerulean sable]

cut off would probably before the horns split aye

[proud vale]

Nah I would say half the horn length

[serene chasm]

are the knights horns part of its hitbox?

[cerulean sable]

how was it in the 1st game at least
like i dont expect them to do the same

iirc yes

[proud vale]

The knights horns are tiny as though

[cerulean sable]

the knight has a perfect rectangle

covering his entire body to fit

[serene chasm]

I would assume Hornets box is similar

[cerulean sable]

iirc

im about to get fact checked by graig

[iron spear]

I don't think the Knights horns are

[cerulean sable]

dont hurt me i didnt touch the hitboxes in this game

[serene chasm]

Im sure the people in #archived-modding-development would know

[vivid belfry]

this is what looks like the case from visually analyzing the demo

[iron spear]

The Knight is three units high, but I think only 2 units are hitbox and physical box. Which is good because it makes platforming feel better

[vivid belfry]

hornet had her entire head up a cymbal dude's ass before taking contact damage

[proud vale]

Yeah like you can’t bonk his head as easy

[cerulean sable]

what if

[proud vale]

Her slash hitbox seems fairly honest

[vivid belfry]

like honestly, it looks like hornet's hitbox is only barely taller than the knight's

and just as wide

[cerulean sable]

they painstakingly using polygon colliders shape to fit all of hornet's angles for each sprite

[proud vale]

Bruh each frame of each animation

[serene chasm]

I trust TC to know what theyre doing in terms on hitboxes

[tawdry valley]

given how much hornets head moves while in air; I feel there would be a need to clip her height hitbox to the piviotal point

[cerulean sable]

new hornet tech

her hitboxes gets smaller whenever you jump 😎

[vivid belfry]

moves a lot AND has randomly selected animations

[proud vale]

I also wonder where the clamber hitbox starts

[tawdry valley]

around a center - also a square one

[proud vale]

What’s it called? The thing where she ledge grabs?

[cerulean sable]

actually yeah like, how diff would the hitboxes is in comparison to her doing the up side down flip vs the roll

[serene chasm]

Clamber

[vivid belfry]

none

[proud vale]

I think it’s called mantle

[cerulean sable]

theyd probably get a middle ground yeah

also
roll animations >>>>> upside down one

upside down feels "slow" like, framewise

[floral jolt]

does silksong exist

[analog lily]

not yet

[proud vale]

I wonder if gossamer is all I-frames

[cerulean sable]

i think its a mixup

like you could argue that doing high damage should have the risk of being stationary if you badly time or position it

but again its hard to say until we see it in action or the encounters with it

[proud vale]

Then there’s d-dark

[cerulean sable]

d dark was too busted

[chilly nexus]

I dropped my gaming laptop just as they announced the new macs

[cerulean sable]

its like those stealth advert where they listen to your mic and give you recommendations accordingly

[proud vale]

Fu-

[green kraken]

rry

[serene chasm]

Gross

[agile ivy]

yo idk if im blind

but does hornet ever throw her needle in the trailers?

[serene chasm]

yes

[agile ivy]

Also is her spiky ball spell thing in boss fights ever shown?

[agile ivy]

Awesome, you love to see it

[serene chasm]

https://youtu.be/yQxwbZsL14Y?t=43

[agile ivy]

wait

@serene chasm is that still the only thing team cherry showed for silksong

[analog lily]

there is the Treehouse gameplay, but TC didn't really show that though

[green kraken]

Praying FOR SOMETHING BY THE END OF THE YEAR ... PLEASE

https://tenor.com/view/allah-prayer-swag-based-cringe-gif-21456556

[coarse leaf]

“Brother asked a very good question”

“We won’t get silksong this year”

[analog lily]

why do i recongnise your pfp

[coarse leaf]

Bee swarm simulator?

[analog lily]

gifted honey bee

[coarse leaf]

Yeah

[analog lily]

never though i would see someone who plays bee swarm simulator here

[coarse leaf]

It’s fun

[analog lily]

yeah, though it gets pretty grindy later in the game

[coarse leaf]

I “beat” it I did everything

[chilly nexus]

we shall receive news before January, go in peace

[analog lily]

hmm alright, though this is kind of a #off-topic discussion

[coarse leaf]

Completely free to play

[analog lily]

yeah, great game

[true abyss]

When did this come out

[serene chasm]

Feb 14th 2019

It says so on the page

[true abyss]

didnt want to click it

[proud vale]

Three year anniversary of the trailer is gonna surely be a big nuke

[olive bobcat]

[proud vale]

I’m channeling it

[analog lily]

you know imagine if the Nivida leak changed to the 3 year anniversary of SS announcment, then i'm sure everyone will go insane

[true abyss]

Nvidia leak?

[olive bobcat]

Fake release date

[analog lily]

oh yeah the unconfirmed improbable release date

[true abyss]

Like the actual company?

Or some rando claiming it was the actual company

[analog lily]

Nividia yes, though there guess is as good as ours,
TC didn't tell them becuase they don't have a release date

[true abyss]

Good. I hope it comes out without a release date uwu

[proud vale]

I really do hope though a Q1 2022 release

[olive bobcat]

Not like you'd check the release date anyways

[potent plover]

I honestly hope it's not a shadowdrop

[analog lily]

why not, that descreses the sive of the Nuke

[true abyss]

Nukes are generally a bad thing

[analog lily]

yeah, so the nukes will be smaller, which is what we want right?

[potent plover]

I don't want to hop on my computer and get spammed by spoilers because I didn't know it released

[true abyss]

yems

[true abyss]

then enable steam wishlist notifications

Play on Switch? Make a Steam account on mobile, then enable Steam wishlist notifications.

[potent plover]

How does the notification work?

[true abyss]

Just pops up on your phone, I got one yesterday about a sale.

[potent plover]

I don't have my phone on me all the time

never used it for like a month

[true abyss]

It's not like someone's going to play through the entire game 1 minute after it releases..

[analog lily]

speedrunners be like:

[true abyss]

In any case, I'm ready and waiting excitedly because I love Hollow Knight and thus I will love Silk Song.

[olive bobcat]

Profasiagaming uploading his next video:

[potent plover]

I'm in a different timezone so It might release while I'm asleep

[true abyss]

You're listing you-problems.. :c

[potent plover]

I just really don't want spoilers

[true abyss]

Me neither, so I simply will not.

For good stuff I'm excited for I don't go to places that'll give me spoilers.

[olive bobcat]

This chat has spoilers, just saying

[true abyss]

Yeh

[potent plover]

I check youtube very often .-.

[true abyss]

Very cool.

[proud vale]

Aluo has silksong spoilers

[tough glen]

Looks cute

[coarse leaf]

Is SS out yet?

[upper oasis]

9

[analog lily]

no, check annoucnments first

I really hate people like this who just come here to ask about SS release date
which is about 90% of people so...

[proud vale]

I mean I don’t really blame them

Most of them are also pretty young I think so I don’t expect them to notice the announcements channel stuff

[glossy gazelle]

?sspsa

[thin zephyr]

Reminder: The latest news for both Hollow Knight and Silksong is in #hk-announcements.
Check the pinned messages for more information, including a FAQ.

[analog lily]

yeah, well i do expect them to do that so clearly we have different opinions on that

[proud vale]

Why should 12 year olds have a full grasp over discord etiquette if anything I’d rather they didn’t

[glossy gazelle]

Don’t you have to be 13 to use discord?

[analog lily]

hmm well i guess so, though it really would be much easier if they did/could

[proud vale]

If you’re not a mod it’s prolly not something to worry yourself with pal

[analog lily]

yeah maybe, but still makes me pretty annoyed when people just say "is SS out yet" people tell them no then they just leave

[proud vale]

Meh it’s a daily occurrence, literally nothing can be done except renaming the channel to “ss-isnt-out-yet”

[silver oak]

Mods are 12

[tall hinge]

[silver oak]

Y'know why just stop at clothflushed

Can we get zoteflushed and tisoflushed

pkflushed

Photoshop connoisseurs, get on it

[silver oak]

People will most likely datamine to find end-game sprites and cutscenes soon after release

The threat to spoilerkind is great and looming

[lean rampart]

Silksong is not happening
forget about it, go play other games

and then when you least expect it,maybe its out.

[summer kindle]

become a speedrunner beat the game in an hour and spoil everything for us

[cerulean sable]

i will break those youtubers that post ALL SILKSONG BOSSES on day 1

[lean rampart]

prosafia

[cerulean sable]

Gellot at least has the decency to only post the first boss

[lean rampart]

he has common sense

[mortal grove]

prosafia on his way to make a silksong all bosses + ending video 50 minutes after release

[surreal mortar]

Silksong ALL ENDINGS (hornet death)

[summer kindle]

cookie cat hello

[surreal mortar]

Hello

[lean rampart]

"im about to anger 148.134 people."

[mortal grove]

also got one of the endings as the thumbnail

[summer kindle]

oh don't forget the secret boss

[lean rampart]

and the additional content before it even releases

[tall hinge]

how can you anger .134 of a person

[lean rampart]

man go check the server's population

[summer kindle]

the one that's the guy that leaps a lot

that secret boss

[tall hinge]

i dont think you got the joke

[lean rampart]

imagine if it turns out that every boss that Team Cherry showed us was optional

[summer kindle]

wait what is the server population

[lean rampart]

I tought you didnt get the joke the first time

[fiery coral]

?membercount

[thin zephyr]

Members

148134

Oct 20, 2021, 5:24 AM

[summer kindle]

false knight moment

[lean rampart]

thats a lot

[summer kindle]

how.

how does it have that many i'm scared

[lean rampart]

Silksong hype

thats how

[cerulean sable]

we will celebrate 150,000 users by doing a random ban/stay raffle

[fiery coral]

everyone aside from the admins takes part

[crisp drift]

Yay

[summer kindle]

#ss-offtopic when

[hollow smelt]

We already have it

[tall hinge]

oh i was just making a joke that where i live you use a comma ( , ) to signify thousands, and where you live im guessing you use a dot. sorry for the bad joke

[hollow smelt]

[lean rampart]

I understand. (period)

[compact canyon]

why does silksong has system requisites on steam?

[summer kindle]

:agony:

[crisp drift]

Why not? Do you expect a calculator able to run SS?

[summer kindle]

yes

[tall hinge]

well every game has system requisites, its just some may be really miniscule and not worth mentioning. i doubt ss has that high of system requisites

probably about the same as hk

[compact canyon]

I just wanted to play it on my samsung smart fridge but it only has a GTX 550

[lapis badge]

when it will be released please no hornet simping , just no

[haughty ingot]

hey lurking william

[valid sable]

too late

[lapis badge]

😦

[valid sable]

I will be simping for every female character in the game, just you wait

[fiery coral]

[potent plover]

gotta simp for trobbio

[subtle echo]

if prosafia does do that he'll get wr for a grand total of a day

because I doubt Silksong's any% will be higher than 50 mins

[tall hinge]

i will be simping for every male character in the game, just you wait

[subtle echo]

if hk's any% was 32

[haughty ingot]

aight, cya.

[subtle echo]

then silksong was one of a half of hk

[tired lake]

How's #sk-discussion doing this morning?

[subtle echo]

its wr would be 50 mins odd rounding off

[potent plover]

I will be simping for every, Just you wait

[rich fractal]

Anything new recently?

[tall hinge]

[fleet temple]

I have no idea

[tired lake]

You doin alright?

[fleet temple]

sure

[tired lake]

I see

So it's partly alright

[fleet temple]

I guess

I'm not as active here anymore
I'm usually more active when I have something to cope about here

[crisp drift]

Silksong

[tall hinge]

[coarse leaf]

missing SS

[spark panther]

Silksong

[vital fable]

Silk not much of a song

[pallid flare]

silksong amirite

[haughty ingot]

do you think we’ll be getting news today

[tall hinge]

no news today, but tomorrow for sure!

[pallid flare]

noyes

[hazy lark]

I hope ss will give me back the desire to play computer games

[coarse leaf]

hornet came to me in a dream and said silksong just started development,, the devs were on break this whole time

[tall hinge]

yesn't

[opaque sigil]

nyos

[coarse leaf]

yeno

[brittle garnet]

nyeso

[dusty nimbus]

What is news?

Or is it what are news?

[shy kiln]

The formerrrr

[dusty nimbus]

Then let's discuss what are ss news

[opaque sigil]

Or let's not

[uneven orchid]

Funny you mention it, there's a YouTube channel for that

[wanton crest]

Baby dont hurt me

[ripe kettle]

I enjoy the idea of silksong

[pallid flare]

i love it

[coarse leaf]

I heard a rumor

Silksong releases tomorrow

[tall hinge]

allison?

[north turtle]

No shot

[dusty nimbus]

Don't hurt me

[fleet temple]

If every day we say ss releases tomorrow, we'll be right eventually

[agile herald]

Silksong release date has been pushed forward to Q4 2022

[fallow apex]

Unless we won’t

[dusty nimbus]

No more

[agile herald]

Backwards I mean

[opaque sigil]

Release date can't be pushed back if there isn't one in the first place

[coarse leaf]

Yk how hk got extra content like godhome, will ss get similar stuff after release

[opaque sigil]

Not for the same reasons, at least. Maybe not at all

[coarse leaf]

Why do u think so

[opaque sigil]

HK updates were intended for the base game, but tc didn’t have time. For SS they can just do it all at once

[coarse leaf]

Ohh i see i see

[small mica]

you have a point

[coarse leaf]

Will ss have challenges more difficult than p5?

[opaque sigil]

We don’t know

Ss is supposed to be comparable in difficulty overall though

[coarse leaf]

Right

[opaque sigil]

So at the very least I doubt there will be anything much harder than P5, though of course, having different abilities and attributes, for some people Hornet may just be inherently more difficult to use than the Knight was

[honest olive]

t

[cerulean sable]

uhhh anyone wanna talk about world scaling again

[opaque sigil]

Sure. Do you think the world may be less dense in terms of items, abilities, bosses, etc to account for her mobility?

[cerulean sable]

hmmm i think its gonna be a bit more scattered i think

[opaque sigil]

Yeah, if they expanded to accommodate size+mobility, for those same reasons they'd need to spread out a bit more in order to retain a similar sense of distance to that between HK items

[cerulean sable]

like, the way i see it youll if an area in HK say, contains 10 items, SS area might be larger for her moveset BUT the area you can traverse is way larger

i dont mind it but at the same time i think theres a balance to it

like having every area be really huge can exhaust the player if its overdone

overall i think areas should fit the scale of what their areas intend vs to just making them huge just because

[opaque sigil]

Well also there's kind of a difference between spacial concentration and effectual concentration

[cerulean sable]

yeahhh i think those terms are way above my paygrade

to be honest

[opaque sigil]

Like how far apart two items are isn't necessarily the same as how much "game" is between them

[cerulean sable]

yeye

if its like, scaled but inbetween its just gonna be empty space traversal, i wouldnt be surprised if i see some complaints being thrown at it

i mean dont get me wrong, empty space traversal isnt necessarily bad

[opaque sigil]

Well, since Hornet's bigger and faster imo TC totally can (and maybe should) have a bit more empty space

[cerulean sable]

but that goes back to the point if people start noticing its a common trend in like, too much areas then i could see why

[opaque sigil]

Yeah, having some areas that are way more empty would just become a strike against them

But packing things together tightly can also be a pain, especially for backtracking

My thought is that if they try to retain the same physical distance between notable items, it could lead to overcrowding

[cerulean sable]

like, huge wilderness areas? yeah sure honestly having them be scaled would be great atmosphere wise provided its

1. fun to traverse around
2. avoid the scenario that if you make the players backtrack to it, the first thing they think is "awww this area is a fucking slog/too huge/wtv to go back to"
   it can always give you a sense of awe

[cerulean sable]

yeah in terms of Hornets speed

[marsh ibex]

nerd

[cerulean sable]

ok persona fan

[opaque sigil]

2. avoid the scenario that if you make the players backtrack to it, the first thing they think is "awww this area is a fucking slog/too huge/wtv to go back to"
   Fast travel is a pretty good way to deal with this, though, and HK was pretty generous so it seems like TC has considered the possibility of excessive backtracking

[marsh ibex]

love you too ttacco

[cerulean sable]

They did add the Dream Gate in the first update, probably because of those complaints

so i THINK theyre somewhat aware of it

[opaque sigil]

Maybe, but even just with the stags and trams you would rarely need to go more than a couple rooms

tbh the only thing that dream gate really seems useful for would be avoiding boss runs, especially through dangerous areas. Like Hive Knight, for instance

[cerulean sable]

thats the only thing im not sure about TC, considering theyre not really super active in social media

so i dont know whether their response to the common criticisms is either
"nahhh we dont need to care about that shit"
"we can reach a middle ground"
"ehhh fine well get rid of it in the sequel"

other than ofc, trying to see how many changes they do in the SS footage

[cerulean sable]

allso works wonders on areas like the Abyss

or mid deepnest

or any areas where you need to backtrack for a bit before going back to town

[opaque sigil]

True but you don't go to Abyss that often

[cerulean sable]

oh and best part is probably vendor warp

[opaque sigil]

True, especially for Salubra and Leg Eater, who aren't all that near to stag stations

ig if I was using fragile charms and dying a lot I might leave a gate next to leg eater

[cerulean sable]

but regardless, they didnt say specifically but DG was probably a result of some of those backtrack complaints

i hate going to salubra

i honestly dont know why they bothered blocking her route

like i get adding more challenge in general to traversal but for me it just felt a chore to go through 3 extra husk ill just ignore anyway

[opaque sigil]

Salubra's worse after IC, but you can still get there easily (if not super quickly) via blue lake

[tall hinge]

[opaque sigil]

tbh IC in general just isn't great

[cerulean sable]

usually ignore BL but that makes sense in a way

[clever bear]

I hate the infected crossroads

[cerulean sable]

i like the idea

i do not like the area blocking

[opaque sigil]

The idea's fine, it's just how they did it

[clever bear]

those vengeflies are really annoying

[opaque sigil]

Blocking passages isn't an engaging way to modify the area

[cerulean sable]

exploding hard enemies? sure

making me go through another extra route when it personally adds nothing but more traversal time? meh

[clever bear]

resting grounds stag > xero’s area > area before blue lake > blue lake > salubra

[marsh ibex]

Yeah idk why they decided to be like

“Oh let’s remove one of the stags”

sadge

[opaque sigil]

It's safe and easy, but some of those rooms are pretty large

[clever bear]

yeah

[opaque sigil]

ig you could also do city storerooms -> elevator which drops you basically right in front of Salubra

[clever bear]

best option is probably dreamgate

[clever bear]

that’s true

you still have to cross the blue lake though

[opaque sigil]

You wouldn't

[clever bear]

oh right

got confused with the resting grounds elevator

[opaque sigil]

I usually put my dreamgate by the lower tram if I'm not using it for anything
ik the hidden station is kinda close but it's a pain

[cerulean sable]

again i think the general traversal of SS would make it actually more fun

[opaque sigil]

Yeah, Hornet has a more diverse set of movement abilities

[clever bear]

hornet looks really fun to play as

[opaque sigil]

And sprint for a brain-off faster movement option

[cerulean sable]

in HK late game traversing through large horizontal corridors is spamming dash and probably charging cdash hoping you dont crash on uneven terrain

SS from the looks of it could be like

Sprint > stab someone > flip mid air > grappling on another by enemy > sprint again
so on

[opaque sigil]

The downstrike especially makes things dynamic as hell

[clever bear]

I just hope that TC doesn’t make an overly complex combat/movement system

I’m sure they’ll balance it well

[cerulean sable]

i honestly dont think its gonna be a concern that a lot of people will have issues with

because eventually the controls will end up being 2nd nature to you anyway

[opaque sigil]

I mean it's more complex but HK was doable without delving into the combat system that much

[clever bear]

maybe

[opaque sigil]

I do think Hornet may have a higher skill ceiling and a steeper learning curve than the knight did, but that's not a bad thing

[cerulean sable]

like, ive watched the demo enough times and i personally feel like i have a decent mental mapping for the old sprint > stab > pogo > air dash

my main issue is more on tool swapping

[opaque sigil]

Yeah, we'll see how that works. I could see it going well or very badly

But using crests with only one red tool slot will always be an option anyways

[cerulean sable]

like so far its not that complex

attack = attacks
down attack = pogo
hold dash = sprint
hold dash then jump = sprint long jump
hold dash then attack = sprint stab which transitions into a pogo
jump then dash = air roll dash

well its more "complex"

[opaque sigil]

Well, idk if the air dash is functionally different from the grounded one, it could just be a different animation

[cerulean sable]

but its not like MH World right now asking me to hold the clutch button, doing a backward hop, then using burst, then transitioning into perfect rush combo, then timing it down, then giving me the ability to cancel it, etc

[opaque sigil]

Yeah MH games can get a bit crazy

I can't even imagine what SS experts would look like. Even in HK's relatively simple combat watching people who have mastered the systems fight can be quite stunning

Especially with the variety of tool setups

[cerulean sable]

back in my days the lance combo was
stab stab stab
jump back
guard

in World
"Ok so basically you gotta perfect time the shield with the heavy attack to do a parry counter while guarding, but if you press dodge while parry countering, you do a super guard which you can transition into a strong lunge by pressing heavy OR you can press the clutch button when you do a perfect parry to attach yourself to the monster then either use your directions to land on which body part, which you can either use normal attack to tenderize the part, or your slinger ammo, but if youre in the head, using heavy attack allows you a turn the monsters direction, which will allow you to use your guard button to use your slinger ammo to crash them into a wall or you can hold the dash button to hold on the monster when hes trying to shake you off him"

[opaque sigil]

Spikes traps, saws, thorn balls, flying robots, Hornet's practically her own path of pain

[nimble radish]

takes after her father

[opaque sigil]

This is what happens when a franchise constantly tries to go bigger and better

[cerulean sable]

you see those buttons on the top right? i still use those

because sometimes i dont know what the fuck im gonna need to execute a combo

[opaque sigil]

Yeah I played World for a while, I know the pain

[cerulean sable]

heres the combo list after doing ONE slash

[opaque sigil]

Although dual blades was pretty intuitive after a while

[cerulean sable]

yeah it becomes 2nd nature

but point is, i dont think SS is going to end up feeling that complicated

[opaque sigil]

Probably not, although I'm sure there'll be enough depth there that it could be pretty complex if you make it so

[cerulean sable]

its not like theyre asking you stuff like "oh apply a debuff every x second to reduce the enemy's resistance then do a perfect parry during it to do 2x damage"

yeah itll definitely be more complex than HK for sure

but like, at the most youre gonna be dealing with your own movement anyway, your attack at most will always be slash or skill

[opaque sigil]

Which is good, frankly. It gives the combat a sense of cleanness and responsiveness that super complex, combo-based games just don't have

[cerulean sable]

yeah, its a one weapon system too

[opaque sigil]

Well, excluding the red tools but those are a different thing

[cerulean sable]

even graig has said it before, youre just not used to the controls in SS thats why you might think its harder

yeah which ofc the concern i mentioned earlier

[opaque sigil]

Well, there seems to be some more tactical complexity wrt resource budgeting as well

Like in HK it's one cast:one heal, that's not the case in SS. Plus the red tools are finite between benches

[cerulean sable]

im betting you, the people saying theyre scared SS' combat is too complex is the same people that will subconsiously chain pogo + grappling at enemies to zip past rooms after they get accustomed to it for a while

[opaque sigil]

Yeah. A lot of the time the execution isn't hard, it's just learning how to do it that takes time and patience

And when somebody doesn't have patience they go online and complain

[nimble radish]

tacco and tammo providing bona fide silksong discussion

[cerulean sable]

ye, in one demo the guy said hes not the best but hes certaining a decent player beating most Panths (lets be honest, people who do pants are kinda near the high echelon anyway) but he fucked up the lace fight because he felt pressured with the timer + the people standing behind him waiting for their turn

and that hes not used to the controls yet

[opaque sigil]

Nobody plays at their best when under pressure like that

[cerulean sable]

its not like theyre asking for you to do multiple combos anyway, you still have the same slash

you keep slashing at enemies until they die

[burnt topaz]

The demo introduces a lot at once, in silksong, the introduction of mechanics are gonna be more seamless

[cerulean sable]

yeah

that too

theyre not gonna give you all the tools to begin with, hell by the time you get sprint, heal and pogo is probably already ingrained in your muscle memory for a slight bit

people underestimate themselves sometimes

[opaque sigil]

Well, dash and straight pin isn't exactly a ton to throw at you at once, though I do agree

[cerulean sable]

you dont even do it without thinking, you just subconsciously execute them

[burnt topaz]

Well that and with the timer and audience, it adds up

[cerulean sable]

well its to add that they give you all of those in a 30 minute demo underpressure

yeah

[opaque sigil]

Unless you're like me and you get ridiculously in your own head when it comes to finite resources like red tools

[cerulean sable]

"OK SO YOU CAN SPRINT, AND YOU CAN SPELL NOW, OH AND YOU CAN USE TOOLS, ALSO GO HERE BECAUSE THE PROGRESSION IS HERE, ALSO MAKE SURE TO GET THE HEALTH UPGRADE FOR THE BOSS FIGHT, ON AND YOUR WAY THERE SHOULD BE A KEY NEAR THE BOTTOM"

iirc the booth guides were telling players where to go and where to head to next

i guess it can add up to feeling like theyre telling to finish your demo asap for the others

[opaque sigil]

Ok yeah that's a bit much, plus presumably having them look over your shoulder the whole time....

And Lace does seem genuinely hard even without that stuff

[cerulean sable]

Since this video is still getting some attention, we thought it would be a good idea to add a bit of context (maybe this way the disrespectful comments will stop).

This Hollow Knight: Silksong demo was available at a Nintendo event in Gamepolis 2019 (Málaga, Spain) in july of the same year. It's probably the exact same demo that was shown on the Threehouse: Live during E3. When starting, you could choose between two levels: the first, mossy area where the game begins, and the lava-bronze area, which takes place later in the story. That second level ended with the Lace boss fight, so there wasn't anything more after that.

The guy playing is an avid Hollow Knight fan who has put hundreds of hours into the original game, and even finished challenges like the Path of Pain or the fight against Nightmare King Grimm. That doesn’t mean he is a skilled player, but he definetly isn’t someone who is trying Hollow Knight for the first time.

This was also the first (and only) time playing the game, and even knowing the basics of Hollow Knight, there are a lot of new gameplay mechanics that you have to properly learn to play through. This might sound easy, but when you have a limited amount of time and you are surrounded by other people, waiting in line to play after you, it is not.

It’s also important to note that someone from Nintendo was beside him, telling him what to do or where to go to save some time. That’s why sometimes looks like he’s randomly moving around. Oh, and he wasn’t just chilling on a sofa; he was playing while standing all the time.

Anyway, hope you guys enjoy the gameplay. We come here from time to time to remember ourselves that we actually played Hollow Knight: Silksong. Fingers crossed we get a release date soon!

it reminds me of the typical scenario when i order a huge ton of stuff in a shop inside our university

[nimble radish]

Fingers crossed we get a release date soon!

[cerulean sable]

like half of the times i internally tell myself "are these people judging me by my order"

[opaque sigil]

Yeah, observation always decreases performance, at least in my experience

But I've never been in the "oh SS will be easy if you're good at HK" camp anyways

[cerulean sable]

yeah

[burnt topaz]

At the very least, some conventions like cracked walls and stuff are carrying over but most other stuff are gonna take some getting used to

[cerulean sable]

youll still need to get accustomed to the set

[summer hearth]

we can have all the patience in the world as long as the game isn't out we can't get better shrugs

[cerulean sable]

god i remember seeing pics of the line for the Silksong demo

[opaque sigil]

Imagine waiting in a line for an inordinate amount of time for a 30 minute demo and not being able to finish it

[nimble radish]

wdym "shrugs" no roleplaying get banned

[cerulean sable]

the Avengers game had like, 8 booths that when filled, usually had 5-10 people waiting for it

SS only had 4 booths and apparently it was the 3rd longest line in E3

[frigid ivy]

So worth it

[burnt topaz]

Imagine waiting for 30 minutes for a demo to die to moss mother

[frigid ivy]

Lol

[burnt topaz]

With everyone watching you

[opaque sigil]

I mean dying to MM is more reasonable than dying to gruz mother and I'm sure a few people have done that

[nimble radish]

died to gruz mother gang

[pallid flare]

couldn't be me

[burnt topaz]

I remember a few people on here who've died to gruz mother

[summer hearth]

i hope not challenge is part of the fun imo

[summer hearth]

TT

[opaque sigil]

I mean on your first playthrough with base equipment and maybe being new to the genre... It could happen

idr if I died to her on my first playthrough but I might have

[burnt topaz]

Yeah, I found gruz mother after I upgraded my nail

[cerulean sable]

https://discordapp.com/channels/283467363729408000/586931790208434203/588120338307481604

[frigid ivy]

It depends on where you go on your first play through

[opaque sigil]

god knows I'm gonna die to moss mother at least once

[burnt topaz]

Even Luigi is horrified

[frigid ivy]

If you accidentally go straight to gruz mother on your first play through you’re not going to fair too well

Unless they’re familiar with the genre

[opaque sigil]

4 booths and a 30 min demo = for every person in the line in front of you 7.5 minutes of waiting....

oh dear

[frigid ivy]

When is the next E3?

[opaque sigil]

idk but it probably won't have the SS demo

[crisp drift]

somewhere between 1 second and the infinity in the future

[cerulean sable]

honestly the demo is old as fuck at this point and is probably not a good representation of current state of the game anymore

[frigid ivy]

Thanks that clears everything up

[opaque sigil]

2+ years of development have passed since then, after all

[summer hearth]

pretty sure i died to her cuz i just walked in without thinking and having already been damaged

[frigid ivy]

It’s also the only representation

So there’s no alternative

[summer hearth]

the second time i attempted her i died to her damn offspawn

[opaque sigil]

The demo isn't at events any more afaik

[cerulean sable]

for all we know Hornet now does a triple jump ability where she can now throw depleted uranium kunais at every enemy at the screen as her first tool

[opaque sigil]

And events haven't seemingly gone back to being in person anyways

[crisp drift]

uranium kunai
Hornet gonna die from radiation poisoning

[frigid ivy]

Silksong has probs turned into a battle Royale at this point

[cerulean sable]

something something

theres theories (again theories) that BF2042 was a BR that they turned into a mainline game hence the operators

inb4 same happens to SS /s

[summer hearth]

honestly that would be kinda cool

[burnt topaz]

100 vessels fighting each other in hallownest

[opaque sigil]

Would it

[nimble radish]

a 2d battle royale?

[frigid ivy]

Gulag would be all the shades fighting

[summer hearth]

imagine you are a parasite and you can take over weakminded bodies in the overworld

[cerulean sable]

deep inside me i unironically want a 6v6 Silksong multiplayer game mode where each character has their own toolset and moveset

[opaque sigil]

Mods exist ig

[nimble radish]

I don't need to imagine that's my reality

[crisp drift]

[cerulean sable]

ie like this guy would have high DPS with throwing weapons but only 3 masks health to boot

[opaque sigil]

I'm sure there will be a SS multiplayer mod, same as HK

[summer hearth]

and when inside a body you can grow and take over stronger mobs PogU

[cerulean sable]

yeah but networking is a bit hard after all

[opaque sigil]

Fair

[cerulean sable]

i think the dev is going well but if you see the footage, everything has a 1 second delay after you hit the other knight

[burnt topaz]

Mario odyssey but 2d

[frigid ivy]

Do you think a built in silksong multiplayer mode would be good?

[opaque sigil]

Not really, no

[cerulean sable]

again not shitting on work, i know how difficult modding can be especially for a game that didnt even intend this feature to begin with

[crisp drift]

no

[cerulean sable]

because for what it is its extremely impressive

[frigid ivy]

Or would it ruin the atmosphere of the game

[summer hearth]

you start as each areas equivalent of a crawlid

[opaque sigil]

It certainly wouldn't help it

[crisp drift]

it'll ruin everything, maybe

[burnt topaz]

2 hornets isn't very lore friendly

[cerulean sable]

i mean, Bioshock 2 made a game mode where its set before the fall of Rapture

and thats their justification for their multiplayer mode

[opaque sigil]

They could just make new sprites for player 2 or smth there are ways around that

[cerulean sable]

essentially a sequel before the series starts

[nimble radish]

player 2 could be seth or lace or something

[cerulean sable]

so the setting is during the civil war

[summer hearth]

probably this. well you see the atmosphere that hk built was you exploring a gigantic world where almost everything is hostile and unkown

[burnt topaz]

That could actually be pretty fun

[cerulean sable]

but like, actually multiplayer for the campaign? ehhh i think theyd need to make the campaign around the idea of multiplayer to make it work

[summer hearth]

if they wanna have a similar feeling coop or multiplayer would probably negatively impact the feeling @frigid ivy

[cerulean sable]

but if its just a fighting game esque thing thats set to during (if there is one) say the fall of Pharloom where you got them looters and mercenaries taking advantage of the situation then i can see it working

again not a perfect example

[opaque sigil]

Maybe but that isn't really silksong at that point, is it

[summer kindle]

hello ss discussion what are we talking about

[cerulean sable]

but its an example of how to make it work
ofc at the end of the day it just doesnt fit SS' campaign

[opaque sigil]

Plus designing games for multiplayer can hurt the singleplayer experience, so even if they could I wouldn't want them to

[cerulean sable]

eitherwise youll get CoD MW flashbacks but this time its the Cultist team throwing knives across the map to spawn kill someone at round start

[summer hearth]

i think beeing able to play the game as multiplayer is good for replay ability but it won't fit too much into the story aspects of the game.

the reason beeing you have a singular title character hornet that kinda represents the game

[silver oak]

Yeah metroidvanias need to be designed very specifically to work for multiplayer

The only example I can think of is Guacamelee

[sacred stratus]

a multiplayer metroidvania sounds like an interesting idea tbh

maybe it can work

[opaque sigil]

It'd be hard to do, especially if you want some sort of matchmaking

[sacred stratus]

oh you talking matchmaking and stuff

[frigid ivy]

A part of the hk and ss atmosphere I feel is the sense of feeling as though you’re the the only person/bug left in hallownest

[silver oak]

Ranked competitive silksong

[sacred stratus]

yeah that's not gonna work

[summer hearth]

honestly a battle royale or race mod with diffrent npcs or something would be cool. coop, multiplayer will most certainly be moded in

[burnt topaz]

Silkkart

[nimble radish]

finally

[pallid flare]

Hollow Knight: Silksong: Battle Royale

[silver oak]

Race mode could be interesting

[opaque sigil]

Race mode is just comparing speedrunning times with extra steps

[silver oak]

Or something like what Fireb0rn did in the hunters videos

[silver oak]

Yeah but it would be so much more intense if you could see the other person on your screen

[burnt topaz]

You gotta have friends and organize it though

[summer hearth]

a man i wish i had hollow knights source code. i wanna change it into a Hollow Knight battle royale. You are a part of the infection and spawn at a random part of the map as a tic tic. there is shrines where you can worship the radiance to level up your infectivity in order to take over stronger mobs. bosses cant be taken over. bosses respawn and drop a token that you can collect. when you die theres a chance you for every token you have to drop. whoever gets all boss tokens first wins

[burnt topaz]

I wanna be a tictic

[opaque sigil]

*segmented claberbab

That's the better name for it

[pallid flare]

I love Segmented Claberbab

[sacred stratus]

I live in Spain but without the S

[summer hearth]

not necessarily, if it is just base game with 2 characters yes. now imagine you could have some customization, like be a part of the menderbug guild therefore your able to place walls to hinder the other person

[opaque sigil]

The old HK enemy names are just better, idk why they changed them

https://www.teamcherry.com.au/blog/the-creatures-of-hallownest

[nimble radish]

crawlid name stayed

[opaque sigil]

Not the full one

[pallid flare]

"Scrundling Propede (infant)"

[hushed wasp]

Horizontally Segmented cauliflower

[nimble radish]

interesting, aspids and aspid mothers are intended to be males and females

[pallid flare]

what the fuck; "Greater Susking Hoppod"

[nimble radish]

makes sense I don't know why I didn't think of that before

[dusty nimbus]

Zip

[opaque sigil]

It's still a thing, according to WJ. Don't have it on hand though

[dusty nimbus]

You are the only thing left of Fool here

[trim estuary]

I’m pretty sure something like dnSpy or ILSpy will get you hollow knights source code (if you own a legal copy). I got terraria’s that way

[summer hearth]

the diffrence between the 2 is that race mode does not have to be limited by the restrictions of the base game

[trim estuary]

True

Except for fools alt

[pallid flare]

excuse me what

[trim estuary]

Yeah

[summer kindle]

susking

[dusty nimbus]

Yeah

[trim estuary]

Graig

[pallid flare]

oh

[coarse leaf]

whoa

350 msgs in an hour, what happened here

[opaque sigil]

Conversation

[trim estuary]

True

[opaque sigil]

Damn TTacco's "anybody want to talk about world scaling" was way more effective than he probably thought it would be

[burnt topaz]

Maybe we should do that more often

[opaque sigil]

We should. Better than what this channel usually does

[languid linden]

Better than what #hk-lore was yesterday

[opaque sigil]

don't remind me

[trim estuary]

Hollowness?

[opaque sigil]

I wish

[trim estuary]

How big do you think the pharloom kingdom is anyway

[summer kindle]

big

[opaque sigil]

Significantly larger than HK's, maybe a bit less dense to account for the same things the increased size does

[summer kindle]

i am of the opinion that silksong needs bees
yes we already had bees
we need more bees

[trim estuary]

I haven’t thought of the less dense part before

[opaque sigil]

No bees, but ants are pretty good

[trim estuary]

Bee-ant war when

[pallid flare]

sometime

[summer kindle]

what if silksong was just bug fables all along

[nimble radish]

today

[glossy gazelle]

When it’s done

[summer kindle]

right answer

[trim estuary]

December 21st

[opaque sigil]

Shh you'll summon them

[summer kindle]

silksong february(?!!??!!

[opaque sigil]

so guys I know you probably already know about this but I just heard that Silksong's release date is February 1 2022 ||/s||

Imagine trusting nvidia's testing database

[pallid flare]

tammo wtf

[opaque sigil]

It just makes sense to release in February

[trim estuary]

You know what else made sense

June 12th, 2020

[opaque sigil]

I totally would be saying February even if the leak didn't say that

[glossy gazelle]

insert the reasoning it’s because anniversary of announcement trailer here

[trim estuary]

He’s going insane

[shell yacht]

"it just works" -some guy that didnt test the game

[pallid flare]

tammo are you alright?

[opaque sigil]

Plus Leth said it was in the polishing phase a while ago

[trim estuary]

Not this again

[pallid flare]

may god help you

[trim estuary]

agreed

[shell yacht]

Tammo has lost it

[burnt topaz]

Keep it together man youre losing it

[summer kindle]

tammo has joined the dark side

[opaque sigil]

Can't wait to fight TK in Greenpath at the end of the game

[summer kindle]

have not heard that in a while

[glossy gazelle]

I think Tammo is going through #sk-discussion-degradation-itus it should wear off in a few days

[shell yacht]

/ban @opaque sigil insane

[trim estuary]

I heard it 3 days ago

[summer kindle]

i rarely come here that's my excuse