sk-discussion

[blazing geyser]

Mmm. Ngl I love dread's graphics so far. I havent had much experience with the prime games but Other M seemed weird with the characters.

[crude galleon]

Ye

[serene chasm]

Yeah, Im not sure how I feel about Dreads style.

[crude galleon]

Dreads style seems fine, kinda like 3ds

[reef scarab]

It’s weird seeing a 3D metroidvania lol

[fleet temple]

metroid lead

[still owl]

Maybe I’m just nostalgic idk, but I think the pixel art makes for better atmosphere. Maybe it’s because dread can’t hide behind an art style, and is stuck behind these semi dated looking 3D graphics.

[blazing geyser]

Honestly I love the way little elements are so important in Dread, and the fact that we see wildlife n shit doing stuff in the background

[crude galleon]

BUt it'S sTill 2d

[nimble pebble]

There's only one on switch and tbh gen 5 peaked then it was kinda meh I mostly play new ones to see what new mons they got and my favourite pokemon is from Gen7 despite it being meh

[silver oak]

2.5 d?

[serene chasm]

I think the 3d makes it look to clean. But my opinion dont matter cause I literally have never played a metriod game

[crude galleon]

Yed

[blazing geyser]

I mean even though Dread has background elements the gameplay on your plane is still clearly noticable.

[reef scarab]

They started constantly adding new gimmicks to each new entry and every time it’s pretty much the same exact thing

[crude galleon]

Too used to
Ari Gibson's art

[blazing geyser]

Fair, but swsh is a shitty mess. Actually, lets go is on switch too, lets go is alright graphically. Gen5 was great tho, yea

[nimble pebble]

Gen 5 is epic

[reef scarab]

Ari’s art is yes

[nimble pebble]

Gen 4 & 5 are my favourite

Ari's art is epic

[reef scarab]

The protagonist is really cute tho :)

[crude galleon]

Yes I cannot find something better r😫

[still owl]

I think I’m in the same territory. It’s hard to say

[serene chasm]

Ari ruined game art

[still owl]

If we ever did get a 2D hand drawn Metroid game I wouldn’t be complaining.

[mortal grove]

which demon did ari sell his soul to for good art

[reef scarab]

why the knight no emoji :(

[crude galleon]

[serene chasm]

Nintendo should hire TC to make the next Metriod game

[silver oak]

[crude galleon]

Samus in hollow knight artstyle?

[nimble pebble]

But then They'd have to deal with Nintendo Breathing down their necks

[crude galleon]

Yes

[silver oak]

This is really the first mainline metroid game since the indie explosion

[crude galleon]

U dont think they would have as much freedom bc they have to stick to the metroid universe or something

[silver oak]

Which started in 2004 with cave story I think

[serene chasm]

https://vimeo.com/72618865

Doesnt have to be (BTW Ari made that)

[crude galleon]

Oooh

[nimble pebble]

ye

[still owl]

By Ari?

[silver oak]

"A short test by Ari"
No I don't think so

[still owl]

Was about to say

[crude galleon]

It doesnt say ari made it

😕

Are you sure?

[mortal grove]

theres like 1 million aris

[crude galleon]

Yeah sooo

[shy kettle]

Prove it

[crude galleon]

[serene chasm]

Are you asking if its Ari Gibson who made that? yes. Its from his old studios vimeo page.

[crude galleon]

Ok

[silver oak]

Mechanical Apple was Ari's studio

[shy stirrup]

Mechanical pencil used to be where ari worked i think

[silver oak]

Mechanial pencil

[mortal grove]

[serene chasm]

seriously the man is stupid talented

[mortal grove]

apples vs cherries

[silver oak]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAKy8j-nPnc

[mortal grove]

[serene chasm]

Fun fact. Larkin did the music for that short.

[shy stirrup]

Isnt that how they met

[silver oak]

Yeah I was just listening to an interview that said Ari and Larkin had worked together previously

[crude galleon]

[normal dagger]

Wholesome.

[silver oak]

I wonder who originally had the idea to form Team Cherry

[frank sparrow]

wholesome? in #sk-discussion ?

[silver oak]

Impossible

[normal dagger]

It has been proven to be possible.

[mortal grove]

wholesome #sk-discussion challenge (completed) (possible)

[nimble pebble]

And here we see Ari Gibsons distaste for mouths as he barely draws them

[mortal grove]

have a medal 🏅

[nimble pebble]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQxPWT-ifyI

[silver oak]

But can it be done hitless

[nimble pebble]

No, because it hits you in the feels every time

[silver oak]

Yup directed by Ari Gibson and Jason Pamment

[mortal grove]

i wonder where jason is now

[fleet temple]

i heard that ari also made a game called hollow knight, anyone heard of it?

[nimble pebble]

Being Jason

[serene chasm]

He doesnt freelance stuff. Apperently has a graphic novel coming out

[mortal grove]

👁️

ugh i still think the brown eye looks ugly

[nimble pebble]

[silver oak]

The bestselling novel

I find people who were stupidly close to being famous very interesting

Like Rohan Fraser

Or Pete Best

Two very different levels of fame, but same situation

[serene chasm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uj4RBmU-PIo
One of the first big animations Ari directed. Also Jason Pamment is there, as well as Hornet's VA, Makoto Koji

[vagrant umbra]

Fame is overrated. Financial independence is enough for me.

[nimble pebble]

Isn't Makoto Koji only the Hornet VA because they worked in the same office building

[serene chasm]

Her and Ari are a couple last time I checked

[silver oak]

The alliteration in the narration is insane

[nimble pebble]

Well all I know is that when she voiced in hK she just happened to work in the same office building as them

Makoto Koji (Shares an office with TC)

[serene chasm]

Im a weirdo that stalks TC and related people

[nimble pebble]

I see that

Does that mean you stalk CS members because now Leth is related people to them

[serene chasm]

I could. You are probably closer to them though

[tropic crow]

silksong releases tomorrow

[serene chasm]

yes

[nimble pebble]

I suppose

You know it's funny how I'm always conveniently on when a red name is in VC

I was on when Graig streamed an item randomiser in VC I was on when Leth just came to chat in VC

[serene chasm]

I wish I had time to join VC chats

[mortal grove]

ari needs to stream his art in vc

[hollow terrace]

I wished vcs were removed

[nimble pebble]

Ok Mr opposite man

[mortal grove]

yeah theyre hard to moderate

[nimble pebble]

I only like being in VC when the number of people is small, it gets too chaotic if it's a large amount

[mortal grove]

i havent been in a vc for a while now

[nimble pebble]

Luckily it was late at night when Leth came to chat so Most people muted and 2 or 3 of us politely chatted with him

Same with Graig tbh

Late night VC's are usually vibin because most people are asleep

[mortal grove]

the only vcs i join are music ones

[analog lily]

Wait, leth came onto chat?

[nimble pebble]

The 12 am to 2 am EST period where both NA and Europeans are still asleep is a grace period of peace

[serene chasm]

imagine being able to stay up late

[dusty nimbus]

Why so pessimistic?

[nimble pebble]

Was about a week ago now I suppose

[analog lily]

did he say anything about Silksong?

[nimble pebble]

I'm a night owl tends to be just how I am

[mortal grove]

no?

[nimble pebble]

Lmao no, we were just casally chatting

[silver oak]

I forgot we had vcs

[mortal grove]

imagine not doing this

[nimble pebble]

Surprisingly no one asked

[silver oak]

Leth shows up sometimes
He's a great guy

[analog lily]

Well I will probably be online the next time he shows up, (considering I live in Australia).

[hollow terrace]

Because reasons

[silver oak]

Leth isn't australian

[serene chasm]

Being a mod makes you jaded

[nimble pebble]

Yeah we chatted about video games how Leth TC and MR handle marketing, about CS about SS etc I recommended a game to him, he vice versa it was nice

[analog lily]

TC is in Australia along with their developers.

[mortal grove]

i mean i joined a vc once in this server and it was just to watch someone stream hollow knight

[nimble pebble]

Just fun stuffs

Talking technical with Leth is fun

[silver oak]

Leth lives in the US

[frank sparrow]

isn't TC the developer- IM SO CONFUSED

[silver oak]

His job is the most removed from the day-to-day stuff so he can be remote

[analog lily]

TC is the company

[silver oak]

Yeah Discord, how are you not getting this

[cerulean sable]

hence Team Cherry

[frank sparrow]

Im pretty sure TC is the developer- I SWEAR-

[analog lily]

no it is the company TC is not a person

[iron spear]

Devs, wilbo, Ari, jack. Music and sound effects. Chris. PR and other admin things. Leth. Gardener. Graig

[silver oak]

Graing

[analog lily]

they are the people who work at TC

[silver oak]

Grandernerer

[cerulean sable]

its like calling Hornet "Hollow Knight Silksong"

[serene chasm]

Thanks for the explanation graig.

[frank sparrow]

still pretty sure TC developed HK-

[cerulean sable]

"wow Silksong is such a cool character she can flip"

[frank sparrow]

no one can change my mind

[cerulean sable]

uhuh

[analog lily]

yes the company did

[silver oak]

You don't even see the irony, it's great

[frank sparrow]

unless they provide evidence

[cerulean sable]

aghost you can stop hes just tryna be comedic at this point

[silver oak]

Unless you're trolling all of us

[frank sparrow]

taco dont goddamn expose me

[cerulean sable]

im legally required to expose you

[analog lily]

Yeah I Stopping this madness now

[silver oak]

I don't even know who's serious and who's not

[frank sparrow]

no one is serious but everyone is

[cerulean sable]

i am way below my quota

[analog lily]

Well at least I am or was.

[silver oak]

Go back up to "Old Mate" and look at the roles he has

[fiery coral]

speedrunner?

[silver oak]

My brain is melting

[frank sparrow]

clearly someone is lying to me

[analog lily]

they are a group of developers

[analog lily]

how do you not understand

[frank sparrow]

🤦

[silver oak]

[frank sparrow]

Necro end my suffering

[silver oak]

No this is funny

[frank sparrow]

quick right in the brain please

[analog lily]

yes enjoyable

[frank sparrow]

MORE EVIDENCE

[analog lily]

yes, they all developed it, they are a team

[silver oak]

Someone should make a lore video on this

[frank sparrow]

THEN WHY DID YOU SAY THEY DIDN'T

[analog lily]

TC is not a person, but a team

[frank sparrow]

WHAT IS GOING ON HERE

[serene chasm]

Who is this Team Cherry person? Also what kind of first name is Team?

[silver oak]

This is the dumbest argument I've ever seen

[analog lily]

not an argument, an explanation

[frank sparrow]

im enjoying every second of acting like a dumbass

[iron spear]

Everyone merges into a single entity like Megazord

[frank sparrow]

i dont feel like you've explained anything

[silver oak]

Graig is the green thumb

[analog lily]

i am trying too

[barren roost]

Graig made the joke before I could react

[frank sparrow]

clearly TC developed HK so why you say no

[analog lily]

the team did

[frank sparrow]

YES

[analog lily]

The team of TC

[frank sparrow]

SO WHY YOU SAY THEY DIDN'T?!

[analog lily]

team cherry is NOT a person

[silver oak]

There is no way this is happening

[analog lily]

but a team

[frank sparrow]

i cant-

[analog lily]

my brain is dying now

[frank sparrow]

i cant goddamn pretend- WHO SAID TC IS A PERSON?!

[analog lily]

you did or you acted like it anyway

[frank sparrow]

I DIDN'T SAY THEY WERE A PERSON-

[analog lily]

I thought you did

[frank sparrow]

DID YOU READ WHAT I SAID?!

[nimble pebble]

Mr Tom Chery is a cool guy

[cunning geode]

[analog lily]

yes

[silver oak]

"Developer" can be plural.

[cunning geode]

is this really a necessary debate

[silver oak]

There. I solved your argument.

[analog lily]

it also can be a single noun

[serene chasm]

Does this count as rp?

[frank sparrow]

it clearly is Wombat-

[cunning geode]

it really is not.

[analog lily]

not really

[frank sparrow]

im the most confused person

[analog lily]

no i am more confused than you

[frank sparrow]

in the history of #sk-discussion rn

[silver oak]

Ok I give up

[analog lily]

yes this basically happens everyday

[cunning geode]

nobody needs to get caught up in grammar/semantics trivialities if it gets this ridiculous, okay?

just move on

[analog lily]

ok, my brain needs to rest anyway

[frank sparrow]

im literally moving into my corner to cry

[silver oak]

So uh
Is the word tools plural or singular

[serene chasm]

plural

[silver oak]

Cool
Next topic

[frank sparrow]

did you know that Hornet says shaw in fights so clearly that means that spiders are cowboys and therefore Pharloom is in Texas

[mortal grove]

WOW incredible

[silver oak]

Did you know that the Hollow Knight franchise has weird, unknown bugs in it so therefore both games are clearly set in Australia

[analog lily]

did you know I can confirm this

[frank sparrow]

honestly- i still find bugs ive never bloody seen before when i go outside

[silver oak]

the farther you go into the outback the more the bugs start to resemble ari's art

[mortal grove]

australia has void?

[frank sparrow]

yes its called Coolum Beach

[analog lily]

I wonder what bug in Hollow Knight this is

[frank sparrow]

imma guess a bug

[lapis oyster]

Teeth

[silver oak]

divine

[analog lily]

Now this is that giraffe like creature in Queen's station

[mortal grove]

baby watcher knights

[silver oak]

Willoh/Grimm Troupe horse bugs

[mortal grove]

for some unknown reason

i wanna eat it

[analog lily]

This looks a bit like queen vespa

[silver oak]

It's telling you that
Don't give in

[mortal grove]

i cant tell if thats a fly a bee or a wasp

[frank sparrow]

eat it- do it

[silver oak]

Don't do it sa1t

You're better than this

[silver oak]

FUCK

They're gone already

It's too late

Those are literally called stag beetles

mossbag has a whole video on this

What the fuck

Aaaand that's my cue to go to bed

[fiery coral]

reminder to spoiler tag images like that

not everyone reacts well to photos of insects

[analog lily]

yes but not for spoilers, for sanity

[fiery coral]

yes

[frank sparrow]

Hi Unique

[fiery coral]

Hello

[frank sparrow]

Hi chaos

[nimble pebble]

Hello Unique

[proud vale]

Uniqueeee

[grim forge]

Hello unique

[mortal grove]

why is there a cheese reaction

[frank sparrow]

why isn't there a cheese reaction

[rigid hornet]

Daily checkin if silksong’s out

[coarse leaf]

🍞🧀🔥

[mortal grove]

grilled cheese snaddich

why does that have gorbbrain reacts

[frank sparrow]

why not

[fleet temple]

[nimble pebble]

[coarse leaf]

[nimble pebble]

[mortal grove]

I DONT EVEN KNOW WHAT IM LOOKING AT ANYMORE

[nimble pebble]

[fluid orchid]

If SS won't be anounce, when we know that will be out

[pseudo umbra]

Shadow drop

It's out now, go check the Wii U eShop

Timed Wii U exclusive, $459.00

[rotund sentinel]

it DOES

[nimble pebble]

That's the bug its based on

[serene patrol]

Im gonna sleep. Its close guys! Tomorrow for sure !

[fringe whale]

I would like to share some wisdom
I believe that Silksong will be a great game. But, don't go into Silksong believing that it is going to be a pure masterpiece. If you do, you are destined to be disapointed. No game is perfect, Hollow knight wasn't, and Silksong will have it's flaws. Go into Silksong expecting it to be an amazing game but not a masterpiece. Because, that will make playing and experiencing it much more enjoyable and not disapointing.

[mortal grove]

this is common sense

[warm bone]

I am expecting it to be as good as hollow knight

at most

[fringe whale]

not for some people. I just want to spread the thought

[tiny iron]

This is a good wisdom

[fringe whale]

thank you

[tiny iron]

But I have better, don't hope to play silksong, because you will be dead before a release date even leak

[fringe whale]

that's kinda dark but funny

[signal crag]

Silksong is still just a game.
It might even be a great game, but in the end, that’s what it is. A game.

[main relic]

I'm just excited for it, I don't really have any expectations for it. I know tc is doing their best to make it better than hk so I trust it'll be something I like :)

[proud vale]

I will go in expecting game of the year quality... come at me /s

[carmine sapphire]

Yeah. Hollow knight had ascended markoth

We'll see what boss the commumity will hate in ss

[main relic]

One thing though, fleas and the bellbeast are my children, I love them

[rigid bramble]

Flea final boss

[main relic]

How you defeat it:

[rigid bramble]

Yesterday

[coarse leaf]

Hey so are we all on board with the fact that the final boss is inside the cacoon thingy

[rigid bramble]

Huh?

[coarse leaf]

I dmed simo bout it and..

his answer:

It comes out ||sometime in the future||

That cacoon thing that people have statues of

[fleet temple]

i've actually never thought about that

[crisp drift]

the globe wool looking thing?

[fleet temple]

i guess it could be

but we won't really know until the game releases

[coarse leaf]

I thought it would be too good to avoid doing

[fleet temple]

i could see that as something like the black egg where people worship the being inside the cocoon

which is most likely top of the citadel

[coarse leaf]

I mean thats the final objective get to the top

[rigid bramble]

Or so we think

[coarse leaf]

No it was in the edge article

[rigid bramble]

Well multiple endings are probable, so..

[hardy oasis]

It doesn't really make sense to have an ending halfway/3 quarters of the way up, although it isn't impossible I suppose

Probably more likely to be a similar situation to hk where true ending and first ending are in the same place but something changes it

[main relic]

Does anyone know where to buy Edge #354 physically or is it impossible

[hardy oasis]

Hornet has to go back to hallownest to get knight to dream nail final boss

[coarse leaf]

Maybe she uses the palemobile

[rigid bramble]

Maybe there’s a secret area underneath everything with an ending, idk, I’m just saying why it doesn’t necessarily have to end at the top

[undone nova]

silcsux

[thick dragon]

Are there any new rumours?

[main relic]

The one staying that sitting is never going to drop, but it's not especially new now is it

[exotic ibex]

hey guys today were waiting for into the spider verse 2-

i mean silk song

[cedar violet]

Hey guys when are we gonna get Silksong 2

The first one's great but it needs a sequel

[frank sparrow]

we haven't even got the first silksong

[undone nova]

umm, silksong wasn't on nintendo's indie showcase

so my rumor is another 2 months for info

[cedar violet]

Oh, you don't have it? Dang, I was hoping to talk about that final boss. Hooboy, that's a lot to unpack

[frank sparrow]

[undone nova]

do yoou fight full knight

[long comet]

It is absolutely radiant

[cedar violet]

I won't spoil it for you

[undone nova]

haha unhollowed knight, so umm full knight, he had lunch that is all he needed inn the first game

[cedar violet]

Just fill it with water

[long comet]

Back in my day unhollowed knight was known as hungry knight

[cedar violet]

Noo he was still hollow back then

[undone nova]

this: hollow == hungry he needs choccy milk 🥺

[cedar violet]

He needed the cherries to become full

[long comet]

Ah, that's true.

[undone nova]

ohhhh so that is why he was called team cherry

loreeee hehehe

[cedar violet]

I know it's unlikely but I hope there are references to the Troupe in Silksong

[undone nova]

there willl be

[long comet]

hungry knight eating cherries is an analogy of the HK fanbase asking Team Cherry for Silksong news.
It was planned from the very beginning.

[undone nova]

that is like the one thing there should be references to

[cedar violet]

Even less likely that grimm makes an appearance, but I can hope

[long comet]

If we assume the banishment of the grimm troupe is canon that may not be possible

Good thing I completed the ritual

[signal crag]

Pharloom is not a dead kingdom yet, Grimm has no reason to be there

[cedar violet]

OHHH good point

[signal crag]

both options are equally canon, so confirming one over the other is bad stuff

[undone nova]

wait so it is a prequel ?

[cedar violet]

It's a different kingdom

[undone nova]

why did you say yet

[cedar violet]

Because it isn't dead yet

[signal crag]

from what he have seen, it doesn't look to be dead

[undone nova]

waiiit is farloom actuallly the white king's kingom

[sacred stratus]

We don’t know if it’s a sequel, a prequel or a presequel

[signal crag]

it could be eventually, but until it isn't, Grimm has no reason to be there

[sacred stratus]

I don’t expect any characters to come back in SS

[cedar violet]

I just want Glowing Womb to be a charm again, i want baby Hornets

[undone nova]

i bet it is a prequel and we will meett the whie king birth

[signal crag]

i'm betting only on Mr. mushroom, no one else

[undone nova]

final boss is the wyrm we slay the white king

[signal crag]

you have that in the trailer tho

[cedar violet]

White King is hornet's dad, that doesn't make sense

[sacred stratus]

It’s a tool

[signal crag]

not baby hornets, but it's close enough

[undone nova]

hornet is void tho

[sacred stratus]

Plus PK is dead

[cedar violet]

She

isn't

She's a spider.

[undone nova]

wait whaaat

why does she have those antlers

[cedar violet]

Smh play the game

[undone nova]

and she was in the vode basin she's voide spider

[cedar violet]

Play the game

[undone nova]

i 111°/° it

[cedar violet]

Then you know that her mom is Herrah

[undone nova]

who ?

[cedar violet]

You haven't beaten the game.

[undone nova]

idk i kinda click through the words it's kinda long

[sharp peak]

[undone nova]

look at my nickname

[cedar violet]

Hornet has horns because her mom has horns

She has a white mask because she needs one to fit in with Hollownestians

[undone nova]

why does she have a mom if she is void like the hollow knight guy

[cedar violet]

SHE IS A SPIDER

[coarse leaf]

White mask becouse of the pale SEED

[undone nova]

void spider yeah

[coarse leaf]

SHUT

[cedar violet]

SHE ISN'T VOID

[undone nova]

?????

she lives in void chameber

[cedar violet]

I actually know the information, it's not my fault you skipped everything

She lived in deepnest.

[coarse leaf]

watch mossbag for fucks sake

[undone nova]

i have seen all the vids of mossbag

[sharp peak]

Allow me to explain
Pale King needed to give herrah something to get her to become a dreamer and that something is Hornet
so yeah
no void

[undone nova]

i play them in the bacckgrounds and stuff

[coarse leaf]

Then shut

[cedar violet]

Herrah said "PLZ baby "
And PK said "ey bby you wanna baby??? You gotta go into a coma tho"
And Herrah said
" "

[undone nova]

OHHH and her mom is the bee dude ?

her third mom i mean

[coarse leaf]

No

[cedar violet]

The hell are you on about

[undone nova]

wait umm but she is called hornet yeah

[coarse leaf]

Shut up man

Okay better

[sharp peak]

[undone nova]

sorry for the typo it is kinf of lape

[cedar violet]

Hornet has a long lost sister named wasp

[coarse leaf]

Maybe

[cedar violet]

I'd be angry if they did that

[silk shoal]

so someone in deepnest named her hornet

[cedar violet]

HER MOM NAMED HER

[silk shoal]

how the hell did someone in beast den make it to the hive

[undone nova]

AND they both were from the same void-egg!!!! we see those in the underground dude's place

twinss

[cedar violet]

Oh you're trolling

Ok that makes more sense

[sharp peak]

yep much more sense

[silk shoal]

they take one look at a bee and go "that would be a great thing to name that newcomer"

[coarse leaf]

Not funny but makes sense

[undone nova]

is'nt ur yousername the same as that youbuter

[cedar violet]

Which exit do you think Hornet used

Oh wait that's Hollow Knight talk

Taking it to #hk-discussion

[silk shoal]

funny story
i wanted to find the google translation for "im short" and accidentally typed in "in short"
i liked the translated word and used it as a username lol
pure coincidence

[undone nova]

oh that is a funny story

haha lol

bro axiom verge 2 is out i beat it 100%

[nimble pebble]

already?

[formal karma]

they're ONLY trolling pillow

[nimble pebble]

Well I wouldn't know I never played an Axiom Verge game

It's also quarter to 6 am here

[formal karma]

it's pretty rad, playing thought one atm

[nimble pebble]

I see

[formal karma]

axiom 2 apparently has 2 interconnected worlds.... which sounds pretty rad

[cedar violet]

Psst did you design your pfp using the picrew

[nimble pebble]

The one I have right now?

[cedar violet]

Yeah

[nimble pebble]

No

[cedar violet]

Aw, aight

[nimble pebble]

This one was drawn

[cedar violet]

It's really cute

[nimble pebble]

The original concept I think was picrew because I suck so I used as reference for what I wanted

[cedar violet]

That's what I was trying to ask

[nimble pebble]

I'm still looking for someone to draw the new cloak though

[cedar violet]

I made one of my own about a week ago because I obsess easily

[nimble pebble]

tbh I feel mine was pretty normal as in anything you'd find in the game aside from the horns

[cedar violet]

I tried the same for mine, I might wanna rework it slightly though

[nimble pebble]

I see

[cedar violet]

It has those black vertical lines on the eyes but i don't think it looks very accurate to the game

[nimble pebble]

Did you try to make something like a grimkin?

[cedar violet]

Nah I just wanted to make a cute character I liked the look of

[nimble pebble]

Fair enough

[cedar violet]

I just don't wanna be cringey and have something that doesn't make sense in-universe

I get self concious

[nimble pebble]

Don't we all

idk man up to you

[coarse leaf]

I have a secret to tell

[cedar violet]

Do it

[coarse leaf]

I still watch minecraft in youtube 24/7

Idk makes me feel something

[nimble pebble]

I don't watch it 24/7 but I do sometimes, I don't see what's wrong with that

[coarse leaf]

Actually im watching right now

[nimble pebble]

Good for you

[cedar violet]

I still think FNaF is sorta cool

[coarse leaf]

It is

The fanbase isnt

[nimble pebble]

eh I mostly just watch theories at this point don't care much fo the games anymore

[coarse leaf]

Dude actually the new game looks food

[nimble pebble]

looks decent

[coarse leaf]

*good but still

[ornate beacon]

Food.

[tall hinge]

Food.

[charred pulsar]

Food.

[tribal merlin]

Hungry Knight

[carmine sapphire]

Hollow Knight

[coarse leaf]

I’d definitely eat silksong when it comes out

[sweet lotus]

playing Momodora: Reverie under the Moonlight these days

it's a short and sweet metroidvania, definitely check it out if you are in for this kind of games

[pallid flare]

no me want silksong

[tall hinge]

silksong

[frank sparrow]

[sweet lotus]

eh wait a year then

[carmine sapphire]

i want silksong nao

[fleet temple]

silksong will release

[tall hinge]

idk youre a little optimistic

[signal crag]

pretty great metroidvania, i believe a sequel is in the works?

[sweet lotus]

yes, Moonlit Farewell

[pallid flare]

what's the game about

you got me interested

[fluid orchid]

Australi goes from lockdown to curfew to lockdown again

No silksong, silknever

[tribal merlin]

yeah the 500 man crew of TC really will have problems with a lockdown

[floral kindle]

Ofc, how're they gonna take care of 500 bug cast

[brittle garnet]

Play GRIME

[left yacht]

What is this GRIME?

[brittle garnet]

It's good

It's a Metroidvania heavily inspired by dark souls, with surreal and grotesque imagery

[left yacht]

Fun?

[brittle garnet]

Yes

[left yacht]

I guess so

[brittle garnet]

The combat is very satisfying

Considering you get a parry move before you even get your first weapon

[tall hinge]

i want to play death's door soon

[winter cypress]

i just realised jinn capitalises the "it" when talking to the knight

do they worship void?

they might be like the ancient civilisation

or an offshoot

[pallid flare]

dunno ask #hk-lore

[winter cypress]

oh i just meant the steel assassins

[undone nova]

yes, axiom verge 2 is a troll i made it up

[lament mauve]

When did y’all predict a release date?

[undone nova]

2027

[lament mauve]

😒

[undone nova]

game release Q2 2028 (delayed to Q4 2029

[short wagon]

Let's think about how long TC has not updated the blog

[pallid flare]

alright thought about that, next?

[formal karma]

Yea, think better thoughts instead

[short wagon]

I have put my expectations on this Christmas

[wheat crescent]

Q1 2022

[shy stirrup]

yeah

q1 includes summer right

[wheat crescent]

No

[bronze plinth]

depends on where you live

[north raven]

@noble hamlet if Lace had riddle that isnt some sort of ancent void kingdom language, would this be it?

[marsh ibex]

Dude

[shy stirrup]

why did u ping leth

asshole move

[marsh ibex]

it’s fine, just

Don’t go randomly pinging folks

specially not people who have important jobs

[mortal grove]

trumpet sfx

[north raven]

@noble hamlet the flower blooms as the spider crawls. the silk has spun, and the citadel calls

[marsh ibex]

dude

[pallid flare]

don't

[north raven]

it took "the flower blooms" from the reveal trailer

[tribal merlin]

yeah Leth won't see your shit anyways

[marsh ibex]

yeah that’s not the issue mate

I just told you to not and you did it again

[tribal merlin]

he doesn't have "I wanna be pinged by 9 year olds" checkmark set in settings

[mortal grove]

its a good riddle but why ping leth though

[north raven]

first of all;rude 2nd of all im only sharingit

[shy stirrup]

rude?

[mortal grove]

[north raven]

im 13

[tribal merlin]

you're the one bringing up "rude"? interesting

[dusty nimbus]

Leth anyway wouldn't tell even if he knew

[shy stirrup]

I doubt it

[marsh ibex]

Hey can you not act toxic

[north raven]

@marsh ibex thnks

[mortal grove]

[dusty nimbus]

I hope Hornet gets to cook stuff so that we get delicious bug food drawings

[mortal grove]

Flea burger

[tribal merlin]

bug gut haggis

[dusty nimbus]

Tasty

If Hornet can cook maybe we'll get a master cook achievement

And perhaps her criticizing foods

[limpid kite]

Git Gud!

[dusty nimbus]

That's what she'd say to the cook

[limpid kite]

followed by stabbing them with needle

[dusty nimbus]

Followed by Huntress' quest being complete

[limpid kite]

hehe

[proud vale]

Yikes the pings...

[north raven]

anybody else just want the silksong e3 2019 demo

[shy stirrup]

yeah i wish they had released it to the public

but dataminers would have just...well datamined everything

[north raven]

ah yes

[proud vale]

Nah, everyone would be god-tier at the game already and find everything too easy

[north raven]

good points all around

[proud vale]

There would be people who would beat moss mother and lace every day and then be underwhelmed when they actually play

[tribal merlin]

there never was a standalone release ready piece of software...
just a build that ran on some specific hardware

so releasing it would mean a cycle of testing and bugfixes, taking away from SS dev time for basically no reason

[shy stirrup]

yeah fair

[tribal merlin]

all they would get out of it is probably people going "man we didn't get any news since they released the demo TC so mean"

[silver oak]

We probably got all the info out of it from vids of people playing it

Plus the two high quality ones online

[shy stirrup]

i wanna see more footage of dave

[trim estuary]

Then why haven’t you 1122%’ed huh?

[trim estuary]

[silver oak]

That's all the footage you need

[trim estuary]

But I need high quality audio

[silver oak]

Insert double damage noise

[proud vale]

There's a 60hz demo vid out there somewhere

[silver oak]

I don't think they go to dave tho

[tribal merlin]

type "high quality audio" into google and play the first result along to the footage

[silver oak]

You can get it when silksong comes out

[trim estuary]

Silksoon

[silver oak]

Silkwillbeineventually

ScratchthatSilkwillbeheresoonerthanthought

[trim estuary]

How silksong

[silver oak]

Silkapproachingatalarmingspeeds

SILKISGOFASTLOSINGTRACKOFSILK

[trim estuary]

Silksong holiday 2021?

[silver oak]

SILKHASREACHEDMACHONEIREPEATMACHONE

[tribal merlin]

that "machone" must be a new italian pasta sauce

[mortal grove]

some cool people tried to arrange the songs in demo

[silver oak]

I heard a moss grotto one that sounded pretty accurate

#sk-discussion message here

[dusty nimbus]

Are you TTaco's spiritual animal?

[silver oak]

No one gets my reference

[marsh ibex]

SNIGGLES MY BOY

[silver oak]

Where can I find the other ones they've done

Cuz the moss grotto one is really good

[trim estuary]

There’s this cool video sharing website called YouTube

[silver oak]

Really? Can you send a link to the site

[pallid flare]

tell me more

[trim estuary]

Or it might be on SoundCloud

[silver oak]

Nevermind found it

[tight linden]

What happened

[pallid flare]

nothing

[signal crag]

Someone pinged Leth i believe

[tight linden]

I was bamboolzed greatly

Although I noticed there was nothing in pings so I was sus

[lament mauve]

is talk on how Silksong fits in the timeline on the DL for now? or....

[tight linden]

Huh

What does dl stand for

[mortal grove]

hi

[tight linden]

Hey sa1t

I remember you doing something in mosscord.

[mortal grove]

yeah i asked how a bug moved in mosscord

[tight linden]

Ah yes

[lament mauve]

downlow.

[tight linden]

Yeah I see

It’s been overdone a lot tbh

[dusty obsidian]

What grimm is a spider?

[stoic jacinth]

did anyone with the demo actually defeat dave

the big rolling tiktik thing right from the starting room

[pallid flare]

as far as I know, nope

[stoic jacinth]

casuals

that's unfortunate though

[glossy gazelle]

Yeah I didn’t see any footage of dave dying. Probably because no one wants to fight a two nail damage enemy at the start of the game

[stoic jacinth]

fair

I wouldn't be surprised if it did happen, but not all demo gameplay was filmed obviously

[little spindle]

prob seesn youtubers play it lol

spent hours on discord servers trying to find it

[shy stirrup]

silksong.exe

[stoic jacinth]

is it an exe file

[little spindle]

yeah

[shy stirrup]

one day maybe

[little spindle]

its silksong at home

lol

[stoic jacinth]

i saw some footage of that. it looks... nice?

i don't really expect it to look phenomenal i guess

[tribal merlin]

is it that old chinese fan made thing

[little spindle]

ye

[stoic jacinth]

i think

[tribal merlin]

people reported clunky controls so I didn't bother trying it

[round falcon]

uh, thanks

[shy stirrup]

it sounds like a virus

[little spindle]

yeah i was scared

i dont think it is

but it might

idk it was what i saw in the videos

[tribal merlin]

it most likely isn't
but there's just no point in playing it

[trim estuary]

Should’ve asked here, I have the link archived

[little spindle]

aw rip

[trim estuary]

It is clunky but kinda fun

[little spindle]

yeah it isnt a virus

[trim estuary]

^ I think

[stoic jacinth]

i think they didn't really balance the lace AI for what to do when you do the hornet pogo on them and it just kinda can't hurt you

[signal crag]

Default keybindings are trash

[trim estuary]

fireb0rn played it so he probably has a virus if it is

[trim estuary]

Just use a controller mapper

[little spindle]

don't worry. i checked. with the windows virus thing ok maybe it is a virus

[tribal merlin]

why would I want to play a fanmade "game" before the actual game is out?

[trim estuary]

Yeah

[little spindle]

idk

it is fun tho

[tribal merlin]

maybe using hamburger as toothpaste is fun as well but I won't know since I won't be doing that

[stoic jacinth]

no controller support?

[little spindle]

nope

[stoic jacinth]

damn i was gonna play it too

[little spindle]

thats why i dont play it

[trim estuary]

Dew it

[stoic jacinth]

yeah no controller support kills it for me

[little spindle]

but it was hard to find so i shared it

[tribal merlin]

isn't there, like, software that translates controller presses to keys tho

[trim estuary]

Yeah I used that

[stoic jacinth]

that's too many hoops to jump through for a fanmade boss based off a demo of an unreleased game

[little spindle]

that has bad controls

[stoic jacinth]

^

[trim estuary]

Not if you have waay too much time on your hands

[shy stirrup]

i watched the fire born video and is hornet moving at a faster frame rate than alce?

[little spindle]

yeah maybe this isnt that great lol

[modest lotus]

[tribal merlin]

I already don't understand how somebody would want to play that so I thought maybe they'll also use some extra software to make it slightly more bearable

[trim estuary]

Most likely since they have more hornet sprites than lace sprites available to them

[little spindle]

doesnt help that i made it look like a virus by saying it isnt a virus

[ocean mulch]

The lace fangame is ehhhhhhhhhhhh

[shy stirrup]

i personally dont trust any exe files from a source i dont know

[little spindle]

yeah that is fair

also got it from some shady guy in dms

[stoic jacinth]

i mean i could sandbox it but again, too many hoops to jump through

[tribal merlin]

just run it inside virtualbox as well

[little spindle]

he literaly was like

"you want fanmade silksong"

[tribal merlin]

so to summarize you just need
-keymapping software
-virtual computer
and then you can already experience a sub par fight with drawings ripped from Ari

[little spindle]

and just dropped the link

in dms

yeah not the best way to get it....

[stoic jacinth]

yeah sounds legit

[stoic jacinth]

worth

[little spindle]

i mean. it has it. it runs fine.

my ip is still here

[stoic jacinth]

it's just lace 2 though right

[little spindle]

yeah.

[signal crag]

Lace 1

[little spindle]

?

[pallid flare]

i am shady guy

[signal crag]

Just in lace 2 arena

[stoic jacinth]

ah

[little spindle]

yo sup

[tribal merlin]

it can't be either of those since I don't think we have complete information about those fights

[pallid flare]

he asked, I looked, he received

[stoic jacinth]

We have seen full lace 1

[pallid flare]

I am not responsible for any damage done to your machine

[little spindle]

yeah. thanks btw

[tribal merlin]

ah ok

[signal crag]

But that’s what we know, so we go with that

[little spindle]

i think its fine

whatever

anyways. hornet isn't void. no context

[pallid flare]

I tried playing it but the controls are rough

[stone comet]

are we talking about the fanmade lace fight? i have alot of issues with it.. especially hornets jump being soo.. eh. you barely get off the ground, atleast in my experience, and the beginning is hard to pull off

id personally remove that entire beginning section.

[little spindle]

yeah spent an hour. they should update it

[stone comet]

hornet has a large jump from what we've seen, yeah?

[little spindle]

yeah

not here

i feel like they should

-redo the entire thing

and
-redo the entire damn thing

[tribal merlin]

or just wait for the actual game to come out

[left yacht]

Better yet, they should just make Silksong

[little spindle]

FACTS

[stone comet]

i quickly gave up on that fanmade fight because of how hard it was to deal with the jump being soo small, you could barely jump over lace, and the fact that the controls section was in a language i couldnt read, plus i couldnt find the sheet where it was translated either

[little spindle]

yeah

[left yacht]

That does make it hard

[little spindle]

this went from talking about downloading it to bullying the devs

lol

[tribal merlin]

"bullying"

[little spindle]

more critique

[stone comet]

oh. nono!! this isnt meant to bully them,, im just pointing out stuff that made it kind of bad

[pallid flare]

critiquing the devs doesn't equal to bullying them

[short wagon]

Looking forward to the news of Silk Song this Christmas

[little spindle]

the bully thing was a joke.... ok

[stone comet]

if hornets jump matched what we've seen from her, id be totally fine with it!

[signal crag]

I mean, it’s a fangame just for the sake of having a feeling of playing as hornet, i don’t see an issue with that.
Unless you mean stuff like sprite ripping i guess

[stone comet]

the sprite ripping is sus in its own way

[pallid flare]

it's quite high quality

[tribal merlin]

if they can't deal with negative feedback then they maybe shouldn't have put some scuffed fight of a game with a dedicated fanbase online

[little spindle]

yeah and no

[signal crag]

Oh, did something happened?

[little spindle]

it took me an hour to get to lace

[stone comet]

oh same

again, that beginning section is kind of "AAAAAA" to deal with

[little spindle]

i dont find jumping on bells for an hour fun

[tribal merlin]

imo you can't get that feeling since it's one of the things TC will put a lot of time into.
then using artwork without permission is another can of worms, even if they don't make money off it

[signal crag]

Does leth know about this?

[tribal merlin]

Leth has internet so I assume he does know

[little spindle]

hm

[signal crag]

...that didn’t really answered the question, but okay then

[marsh ibex]

know about what

[next swift]

@everyone what are you most excited for in silksong? Mines the many new weapons you will be able to use!

[little spindle]

i think he is ok with it if no money is being made

[marsh ibex]

yeah dude

[signal crag]

Lace fangame

[marsh ibex]

we’re totally gonna let everyone have the ability to ping everyone

for real though can you not attempt an @ everyone ping as that can lead to yknow

spam

[little spindle]

oh yeah are you allowed to put down links

[marsh ibex]

Ye

as long as they aren’t sus

[little spindle]

a bit sus.

[next swift]

Oh ok will make sure to not ping everyone

[normal hinge]

🈷️

[little spindle]

i will delete just incase

[tight linden]

Just don’t be a sussy baka

[mortal grove]

[little spindle]

lol

[pallid flare]

did you just try to ping 100k people just to ask them a question

[little spindle]

yeah he did

that is a server mute prob

[tribal merlin]

it's disabled anyways so...

[dapper pumice]

A release date

[outer temple]

new movement

[strong quiver]

For me its the new areas

[turbid crystal]

remember when we had hope for news.... ah the good ol days,

[next swift]

I mean come at least like, a riddle like they did before or something!

[marsh ibex]

wow

[stoic jacinth]

Bosses. Hopefully we'll get a rematch system but they look incredible in so many ways, my favorite of which being how hornet can interact with them through speech and how the 2 mask vs. 1 damage is no longer all or nothing, some bosses will have a mix of what type of damage they do based on how easy the attack is to dodge, such as lace's moves dealing 1 mask except for the super-telegraphed AoE damage attack and parry

[marsh ibex]

They give news when they feel like they need to tell us something important. Otherwise, said news would just be “we’re still working on the game”

[next swift]

One thong im excited for in bosses is that you can hit a boss multiple time when its stunned

[stoic jacinth]

well i hope that if they do for whatever reason stop working on the game to give info that they give something more specific, like "we're still working on greymoor" or something like that

[strong quiver]

Also the fact that Hornet can speak

[next swift]

That will be very cool

[late fractal]

Guys whats the deal with SS? I just found out about it, I think it's been announced for a long time now, is it released or has a release date?

[strong quiver]

nope

[late fractal]

How long has it been announced for?

[strong quiver]

febuary since 2019

[outer temple]

its a whole meme here that its taking forever

[late fractal]

Oh

I just see it a lot I thought it was released

[outer temple]

Nope

[strong quiver]

last news we got was in a magazine at the beginning of 2021

[outer temple]

Wait what where

[normal hinge]

edge magazine

[jade canopy]

Wasn’t it release at the end of 2020 ?

[stoic jacinth]

Febuary edition iirc

[marsh ibex]

2 years for announcement is not that long

[queen dust]

you are right

some people demanded silksong right after the trailer dropped but they are taking their time with it to make it perfect. if they would have released it then it would be unfinished.

[amber horizon]

I wonder if silksong will have a godhome type boss rush mode

[stoic jacinth]

i mean graig has already confirmed the game is not being rushed out like HK iirc

[stoic jacinth]

i think it was confirmed by teamcherry through mossbag that there won't be a boss rush but there may be a rematch HoG system

[queen dust]

that would be awesome

[amber horizon]

HoG system?

[stoic jacinth]

hall of gods

[amber horizon]

oh ok so still pretty cool

[desert basin]

Thats all I really need tbh, I just want to know the game still exists

[marsh ibex]

Leth and Graig not telling us about any cancellation already does that

[desert basin]

Does it though? Development hell is a thing and it seems like thats the direction were headed

[left yacht]

'Ya know at night, when you dream? That's your reminder. You just forget it.

[silver oak]

Yeah if they cancelled the game they would definitely tell us

[ashen terrace]

how much of cheating would it be if i changed the game files to give me more nail damage

[silver oak]

That is the definition of cheating

[ashen terrace]

hm yeah i guess

[silver oak]

So uh
100% cheating

[ashen terrace]

i probably wont but nkg is annoying me

[silver oak]

You can do it

With the hardest bosses you have to really take it slow and focus on avoiding attacks more than anything else

Anyway, this might be better suited for #hk-discussion or #hk-help

[shadow jacinth]

True

[stoic jacinth]

^

[ashen terrace]

yeah i know. i finally beat radiance the other day but nkg is incredibly hard like holy shit. oh yeah wrong channel thought this was hk discussion lmao thats the one i normally have selected my bad

[bronze plinth]

You could try other mods #modding-discussion like more charm notches...still cheating but more like an accessibility cheat

[silver oak]

It is a hard game

[pallid flare]

or just git gud

[silver oak]

[blazing geyser]

I mean still, they could release stuff in blogposts about what they've done/are working on next like they did during HK's development. Like tell us the name of the area they're working on with a screenshot and some text, or a character, etc.

[bronze plinth]

Digital was released 31/12/2020, physical released february

[blazing geyser]

I think people would prefer more frequent small tidbits of information than yearlong droughts for some more.....also kinda insignifcant info.

[analog forge]

its not a choice, though

What we prefer doesnt matter.

Either we get news over 6 months apart at a time, or we get nothing.
those are our options

[manic zenith]

With HK development they had to do it because of kickstarter, no?
Anyway, I really dont see a point of such updates

[shy stirrup]

Did you guys forget how.much news we got in december

[silver oak]

I mean, do you want that much of the game to be spoiled?

[signal crag]

i think that fans expect a bit more than just a "yeah, still working on it"

[shy stirrup]

Which we got

[bronze plinth]

I would love some blogsposts but those require time too and they're just 3 people working on a gigantonormus interconnected game

[shy stirrup]

It isnt even the time thing. They probably just dont wanna spoil anymore tbh

[tame kiln]

true

[shy stirrup]

Also like ss has gotten way more news than other games get. Look at botw 2

It was announced the same year as ss and we have barely anything on it othet than a 40 second teaser and not even a title

[silver oak]

They have to be really careful about what they reveal to the public

[pallid flare]

I don't really get the "they don't want to spoil any more" argument

[manic zenith]

also I dont or cant even see any development hell in the 3 members team of theirs

[bronze plinth]

The EDGE magazine update is enough imo...well written, with lots of new info and original art by Ari

[silver oak]

They probably spent a long time putting together what they wanted to tell EDGE

[shy stirrup]

I personally dont want too much of the game to be revealed

[signal crag]

they know what they can reveal that's still light on spoilers i guess

[silver oak]

And by that you mean... screenshots from the game?

[signal crag]

also don't look at the new info if you don't want to be spoiler lol

there are people that didn't even watched the demo

[shy stirrup]

Fair

[silver oak]

But I must

The news calls to me

[pallid flare]

that's on you lol

[shy stirrup]

But what im trying to get at is that we have gotten a lot of news

[pallid flare]

we did get a lot

[restive garden]

THE FLEAS WILL ALWAYS BE BETTER THAN THE BEES

[shy stirrup]

So i dont get the complaint "we have gotten no news"

[pallid flare]

it's just weird that there's a full on 8 month gap

[silver oak]

#FuckFleas

[restive garden]

Fuck u

[shy stirrup]

But like thats normal for even other indies

[silver oak]

This is the longest gap between news we've ever had I think

[cursive jetty]

Personally I'm very happy with the amount of info we have, the only thing that maybe could have made the wait easier would be them releasing tiny amounts of info sparingly (like the riddles)

[left yacht]

Now now, try to be courteous here.

[pallid flare]

it isn't if we compare it to the past

[shy stirrup]

Look at something like shovel knight dig. That game hasnt even been mentioned in like a year

[pallid flare]

we're talking about hollow knight here

[silver oak]

The original game did have much more frequent updates

[shy stirrup]

Well im comparing it to other games of a similar nature and how much news theybe gotten

[pallid flare]

they had to give out more frequent updates because of the kickstarter

[silver oak]

k

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[left yacht]

Kimn?

[bronze plinth]

My favorite quote from that interview is how they realized that they had to do a full fledged game because Hornet's size doesn't work well in Hallownest, that on itself tells me what I need to know about the development time, is not just and official HK mod with Hornet on it, it will take time and a lot of testing to get the game in playable state that TC thinks can be released and knowing how much new areas they added to HK while working on the base map it won't surprise me that they're in the same loop again but at a much bigger scale because they have money, time and Jack.

[desert basin]

No but do you realize December was 8 months ago

[restive garden]

The fleas are better than the bees and grubs. The fleas never need the knees that the bees need cause fleas transcend the need for knees. While the bees are confined in the need to serve a queen the fleas travel around because they are free. The fleas are better the grub because they are not easy to confine in the bulb only to be reach transcends by being vored by grubfather. Fleas transcend without such things for they are free!

[silver oak]

They look itchy and gross

[left yacht]

My rebuttal: Gorb.

[silver oak]

I dislike them

[shy stirrup]

8 months ago is not that long ago if we compare how much of a news drought other games get

[pallid flare]

but we should compare it to the past

TC used to give out somewhat regular news

[silver oak]

They had a coding person for HK, you know

[left yacht]

We shouldn't compare it to anything? What's the point of this?

[silver oak]

David Kazi

[pallid flare]

there is no point, it all doesn't make it any sense

[restive garden]

[desert basin]

Heck, the TC website still says we post regular updates

[shy stirrup]

Well pre hk release tbey had cuz of ks and after that they gave us regular news cuz new updates were coming out every 7 months or so

[bronze plinth]

I know. They also had the pressure to deliver a game for their backers before being called a scam. They don't have that pressure now.
I would love to be able to play the game but this is the situation we're now, they don't owe us anything

[cursive jetty]

I imagine their creativity and financial freedom this time are the main reasons for the long development time of Silksong, even in the Edge screenshots we can see they are still improving the game and (probably) adding new stuff

[silver oak]

They're always improving the game, that's how development works

[pallid flare]

they have as much money and time as they need

[silver oak]

They'll be improving the game right up until release

And maybe even after

[stoic jacinth]

HK was rushed out. It's obvious that them putting out SS faster will have a similar affect. It's much easier to say "i don't care, i just want the game" when you got the game after the bug patches, but having SS broken on release wouldn't be worth it.

while i do want more consistent news updates, it's alright that they haven't been putting them out

[silver oak]

HK wasn't "broken" on release, but it's certainly more polished now

[stoic jacinth]

why are you quoting

[bronze plinth]

I have been considering buying the game 1 month after release just so they have squashed the last bugs in the game

[silver oak]

I'm quoting you

[stoic jacinth]

I didn't say hk was broken

[silver oak]

You said "having SS broken on release wouldn't be worth it" right after saying HK was a rushed game that needed bug patches

[stoic jacinth]

it's most likely a much larger game, rushing it would cause larger portions of the game to be affected

therefore, broken vs rushed

[cursive jetty]

The art in SS is also much more detailed and complex, Ari had to hide rushed background art in HK with blurs and black backgrounds constantly, but in Silksong he is really challenging himself with drawing every little detail in the backgrounds as well as making better effects.

[silver oak]

I kind of want to see what HK looked like right before the port to unity

Like, how big it was at that point
What the map looked like

[cursive jetty]

There's a video on TC's channel where they play that version

[bronze plinth]

First thing that comes to mind is White Lady's dungeon being just square corridors

[silver oak]

There are several
But they never show the map until after the unity switch

[pallid flare]

the game is largely just squares

[silver oak]

The game is entirely squares

There are no curved surfaces in either HK or SS

[cursive jetty]

Well there's one slope in the land of storms

[silver oak]

Which we all know as the most accessible place in the entire game
You practically spawn there

[stoic jacinth]

that one slope added a year to the dev cycle so ari could draw it and william could code it

it's the reason we don't have ss yet

[bronze plinth]

The slope was a backer's idea

[pallid flare]

they did say that they spent a good chunk of the development time on the smallest details ever

[heady iron]

TC will be moving to UE5 for SS

[silver oak]

RTX Hollow Knight

[bronze plinth]

||https://giphy.com/gifs/ball-dung-ha0ihj0UdzqP6 ||

DOMA DOMA DOMA DOMA

[silver oak]

Now give it 5 of those and have it throw them at you aggressively

[ornate beacon]

Me carrying the beans:

[silver oak]

Also mark spoilers pls

Some people don't like bugs

[silver oak]

Shit

[pallid flare]

Me gusta

[ornate beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-dies-gif-21956120

[silver oak]

Well, I guess that's the end of the channel. Goodbye everyone

[pallid flare]

[tawdry token]

[silver oak]

Anyway, tools

or something

[ornate beacon]

Oh my fucking god, you guys still with that?

[silver oak]

idk, it's the thing right

silksong?

what is silksong

[long nimbus]

Wanna talk about the same thing again guys? That sounds like it will be a lot of fun to do

[silver oak]

Did you know the first ever topic on this channel was about E3 and therefore off topic

[signal crag]

oh, you have no idea

also, the real reason Silksong it's taking so long it's because they are adding physical support for every. single. platform
the mad lads

[silver oak]

I'm pretty sure the game is only releasing for pc and switch on release

[signal crag]

yeah, that's confirmed

[silver oak]

Other consoles will come later

[fallow solar]

Confirmed by who?

[signal crag]

what, the other consoles part?

[fallow solar]

No the physical support

[dusty nimbus]

They're making a theme park where you play as Quirrel that's why it's actually taking so long also rumors say it's a breath taking experience

[signal crag]

thatsthejoke.jpeg

[fallow solar]

[signal crag]

also floating platforms make no goddamn sense
change my mind

[tribal merlin]

it's 2d the platforms are cross sections of a 3d structure and you just can't see the support

[signal crag]

just put some background then

[silver oak]

Realistically, 2d games make no sense