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this is just like when they made THK infection pillars do 2 masks, it's really good at making some attacks feel scary even if they're not as likely to hit you as the rest of the boss's moveset
makes sense, easier to avoid but IF you get hit, you deserve an higher punishment
so it doesn't feel like artificial difficulty
I agree with this sentiment, in HK it was pretty much an all or nothing situation but i hoped that some bosses would make an exception, like bosses who use nail arts doing double with them, but that never happened. Lace having a 2 mask hit on a parry means they're getting much better with that and i'm super excited for that
there's footage somewhere of a guy getting absolutely rocked by one of those rolling tiktiks
i forget where i saw it
also i'm still unsure if her fury slashes attack does 2 or 3 masks of damage
well Sly's great slash does 2 damage
Yes but no other nail arts do more iirc
Lace's counter and AOE attack both do 1 mask twice in a row
i mean, in theory ALSO the dash nail art should do 2 masks, right?
yeah it should, especially with how easy it is to avoid
pogoing sly while he's schliding under you feels great
yeah, it does
it's like the most difficult variation of pogoing hornet dashes because of how small he is
no others do 2 which is a shame because they're much easier to avoid than great slash with dash slash being super telegraphed and cyclone slash being able to be pogoed to avoid it completely
feels almost an oversight to me
pogoing cyclone can go wrong fast if you miss his tiny body
you can pogo the whole slash hitbox
yeah but it changes whether or not you push him downwards
like how you can fuck yourself in GPZ flail attack by him falling and not getting pogo'd
true but with quickslash you can incredibly easily do it and do it with relative ease without
me i just spam ddark 
ohhh, yeah that hurts everytime
my point being the 2 mask damage attacks not being all or nothing anymore is amazing
even then, it took them until godmaster to make a small example of it happening with sly
we know trobio has something similar, and i honestly am alright with the attacks, they're good pacing tools
i think trobios can be jumped over though, they look low to the ground
damage pillars are a perfectly serviceable AOE attack, and it looks like it might be combined with another attack in the Trobbio fight
i think those were attacks, i'm not sure though
if his light circle actually has a hitbox
plus the implementation of the pillars is super different in NKG vs PV
I mean you do have the option to stand still in gameplay 
https://youtu.be/yQxwbZsL14Y?t=48 this looks like it's slightly different than a boss intro though
Ascend to the Peak of a Haunted Kingdom!
As Hornet, princess-protector of Hallownest, adventure through a whole new kingdom ruled by silk and song. Captured and brought this unfamiliar land, Hornet must battle foes and solve mysteries as she ascends on a deadly pilgrimage to the kingdom’s peak.
Hollow Knight: Silksong is the epic sequel to Hol...
and often times that's the best answer to damage pillars
yeah but it plays her uhhhh the
the intro animation for hornte
she's playing the low health animation even though she has 3 masks, and she's NOT playing the normal boss intro animation, so who knows what the fuck is happening in this scene
very old version shenanigans
she is playing the normal boss intro anim though?
we don't have much else to work with
the trobbio animation looks similar to the boss into one but in the moss mother fight her clothes flap around more during the yell, which they aren't doing with trobbio
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oh wait yeah that is the boss intro animation 
Still I wouldn't count out those fireworks being actual attacks in the fight
oh, alright then
WH
yeah they are definitely different builds
that's actually a really good explanation for why the one right next to hornet doesn't fire
still discovering something new after all this time, huh?
i think if they are an attack, they'll be vertically expanded. those are some short pillar attacks
I'm disappointed in you guys 
I'm thinking it's gonna have a really long windup but Trobbio will also be setting off a more solid AOE so you need to reposition on the macro level before also squeezing between the vertical hitboxes
I don't think Trobio's fight could rival NKG's fight since Trobio is more of a joke character and the fight would be out of character moment for Trobio if that where to happen
Hollow Knight is the king of joke fights that are actually super difficult
i want hornet to start dropping knives whenever you do the float ability

indeed
isnt it boss intro animation
at least I think its same as in moss mother fight
someone noticed that hornet's dress moves way less during Trobbio's "intro"
could also be just a thing they changed over the course of development
Would be cool if Hornet’s dress moved a lot more in spacey or windy areas. But that’d require tons of spritework
ah but it already swishes a ton when she stops
so some of those sprites would be used

Man im excited for all the quests with multiple endings
Im gonna make everyone live just so i dont miss a boss lol
I do wonder if the side quests will have lots of paths
well done
I’m excited to see what kind of endings this game could have
I've got a new hobby: I look at silksong related posts here and copy them into the keyword searcher and see how out of new topics this server is
endings this game could have has two results
I hope it’s not hornets death 
The worst part is you might have to kill some npcs to fight certain bosses (kinda like Revek)
I don’t really see team cherry doing something like that
I hope you're right, but it's a possibility
What’s the killed/survived ratio for all the bosses in Hollow Knight?
Like how many do you actually have to kill to beat the game?
I mean how many die when they fight the Knight. I’m wondering if Silksong will be close to that number.
I'll check
Pretty sure most of them.
I'm gonna count God Tamer as 2 bosses cause the beast dies but the tamer doesn't
I think the ones that survive after boss fights are Hornet, the mantis lords, grimm, dung defender, all the nailmasters, crystal guardian 1 and god tamer
Would defeating GPZ count as killing him?
Wassup heretics
No
Same for PV
They are actually more than I expected
They do have dying animations in the dream realm though
PV and THK are the same for me. It’s like Dung Defender and White Defender.
34 deaths to 14 not-deaths
Hey look, its my favorite clone captain!
How are we counting dream bosses. Since theyre all dead before you get to them
Wow that’s better than I thought.
Most bosses are dead before you get to them
Because infection
So going by precedent, Trobbio has a 34 to 48th chance to DIE.
If Trobbio is similar to Zote then there might be a choice to kill him or not, or a decision that leads to his death
But I doubt that the comedic character will die after the first fight
i dont want trobbio to die
Then let him live
Youre only killing His hopes and dreams 
what the silksong doin
Technically those are the expectations of Bretta but whatever
?sspsa
Reminder: The latest news for both Hollow Knight and Silksong is in #hk-announcements.
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Literally nothing
There will be a bug vendor that sells you bug drugs
yea
the only news I need from now is the release date
no more info about areas and dev stuff I wanna find that out myself
i'm not sure you can find out about dev stuff by playing the game, but alright then
look in the code

silksong will be released on February 30th guys
haha
Haha! Original joke!

I agree with the aspid on a spiritual level
damn we're on a roll
all the silksong jokes rn
we got them all
Never hitting the punchline, like the game
silknever lmao
we did it chat, we got them all.
Silksong should release any second now
Wow
they're twitter
you don't know them?
Late 2019
This server is hella underrated tbh
even tho there aren’t many original jokes, most people who say the jokes are new people to the community
So try to be nice to them
i mean fair but, silknever doesnt deserve respect
The wait will 100% be worth it
sees overdone joke
ignore
Easy
When you enter an overused joke competition but your opponent is a hollow knight fan
Me when BEANS
silknever lol
Silknow
eh doesnt really bother me
Silkso(oooooooolo)ng

Hornet is a hornet, and therefore must die
is silksong out yet
its been a long time, since i visited this place, i got myself to play hollow knight again
i finished path of pain, got to doghome i mean godhome
Silksong is out yeah
Yeah totally
doghome
how much time has it been since i visited this place
04/02/2021
like 2 months
?sspsa
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As the community grows the fanbase will inevitably start to contain more toxic people in either direction. I think a lot of people are coming to see the HK community as more toxic because of the way people parade it around on a pedestal as better than any other metroidvania and constantly recommending it to people.
I thought this was a meme when i first saw it but now I realize it's a demo, which is very strange
bruh lmao
"it's been so long since ive been here, has silksong released"
"how long have i been gone you ask? 12 seconds"
"where game"
Hey guys. Its been 2 hours since Ive been here. Is ss out?
Hey, we're only part of the problem 
dang this is exactly why people say were toxic
Toxic peeps? where?
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curly isn't a pro gamer with 32 gigs of ram?
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32 gigs of 
what
why are you complaining about it eating resources
if you have more than enough
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only the first 1000, oh geez i better get it quick
Your post kinda reminds me of all those guy selling secret method to get 2000€ without working
curly you have double as much ram as I have
selling crack?
Nah it’s more like ancien Mayan knowledge or whatever bullshit they come up with
ancient mayan crack
I’m in where is it ?
youve got to work for that ancient mayan crack though
My problem is people trying to gatekeep the idea that A. HK invented everything and B. It's the only Metroidvania ever and everything based on it or the genre is a ripoff
perma ban those people
I agree
Mario copied Hollow Knight guys, it has jumping
who even is the neentendough anyways?
God dammit I knew it, Nintendo and all those capitalistic behaviour
Probably some dude with a lot of money
I love the Hollowvania genre
this was painful
did you just @ leth lmao
no
They did
yes you did
Yup
ban
i replied lol
It pinged like this
you did. Didn’t turn off reply ping. Not like it matters, just limit that in the future
you’re gonna be deleted
replies @ people
@ means you @ them
The forbidden reply
oh 😔
Yeah, this one doesn't ping
LMAO
aw jeez
oh no
its ok
You can disable reply pings by pressing on the ping button near the reply, before you send a message 
Good thing Leth said he doesn't mind (still shouldn't do it though)
Click on the the @ on to turn of pinging
I love your fakes post one that's epic 
Very epic
o_O
Its all good.


is there like a stitched up map of pharloom from what we've seen?
There’s one for Moss Grotto, even though it’s outdated
whens the last time we got ss news
8 months
december 31st
I don't even remember
We've made a very inaccurate map of what we know off areas
Almost 8 months. Holy wow.
can i see?
its already been 8 months since the Edge magazine, this year is flying by lmao
lol
how many time did the first game take to be made? sorry for my english
ALMOST 8 months* 
It’ll be 8 months by September 1st 
7 and a half months
sad
3 years but it was rushed and ran out of money, not a good thing to go by
You get it. That counts as almost 8 months 
and when did team cherry announce ss?
feb 2019
ohh, nice
i should redo that sometime
But as a side project alongside the the HK DLC
Remember when everyone thought it was "Coming soon" because of nintendo3
SS as the main project started in July 2018
can you send the map pls?
3 years? 
yes
gotta clarify this is fake
so, like 3 years ago damn
cries in 3 and 1/2 years of waiting
thanks, this looks pretty professional
There's bound to be far more areas than that
lucky me i played hk for the first time 2 months ago
I still don’t think the citadel is the final area, but that’s just my opinion 
omg u so lucky
Also this
This was before EDGE so I didn't know
Fair, fair
You don't understand our pain @livid spear
i would think that we visit the citadel early on but only to the lower floors
btw EDGE doesn't say that the Citadel isn't the final area, it just says that there's still plenty to do once you reach it
If I can wait 11 years for Super Mario Galaxy 3 you can wait a bit for Silksong 
no i dont :( :)
I know this. But in theory I still think there’s still more to the game
I wonder how much longer it will take to relese? any predictions?
gonna have to revise the name of the bell wastes to marrow
i think early 2022
Anywhere from now to 28 months later
months, maybe years
but im just being ingenuos
Im guessing cristmas, but then again I thought that last year too
@hollow sedge Stop
at this point it's just a matter of waiting and seeing
though i like to believe it's soon
cries in soon
My prediction is later
Thats fair
Team cherry always announce the games like just a month before, so i guess not yet :""D
I wish they would update us more tbh
me too, i dont need a release date, i want them to take their time but PLS TELL ME HOW THE GAME IG GOING
Like not about what their adding but like how much more they need to add and an axproximate guess on how much longer it would take
Q1-Q3 2022 for me
in the december 2019 blog I remember them saying that they had like 160 enemies completed or something
q1 q3? what is that?
February. 24th. 2022.
quarters
a day after my birthday?
Business quarters
6 months and 10 days then from @coarse leaf 's prediction
ohh thanks
12 days until my birthday
a day after my sister's birthday?
Happy birthday in advance lol @nimble pebble
This ping alone fucked me up at Hand of the King

Screw you background noises!
Lol
Right up front: We’re still going, building this (very large) game. Our desire to keep building, and building, and building sure hasn’t diminished, but our timelines have stretched a bit both to account for all that exciting new stuff and to tie up everything else.
this is from the blog
We've had far more than the blog in the past year or two
? Edge and the riddles?
yes
did you see that thing about the strings of silk in the enemies? who you think is controlling that
me :)
nice
i need that moss grotto soundtrack, it sounds real good
Can’t wait for that feeling in silksong that you get from exploring the world in hollow knight for the first time
same
I think it will be the final area, but you won't be able to make one trip to it. Like how you have to come back to the crossroads in HK to finish the game, or how there's two parts to CoT
Thought soul master was the final boss 
i probably will open the game and play with hornet's dress animation for 3 hours
So your saying that’s when the second phase of the game begins
I distinctly remember looking through HK's achievement list after playing very little of the game and thinking Traitor Lord was the final boss because the achievement sounded the coolest
I would say more like the last third
Sounds right
But yeah, essentially
almost certanly
if i never speak in absolutes, i can never be wrong
No, it's confirmed to be the top
central as in....central, i dont mean center of the map
only a sith deals in absolutes
Haha
From the looks of sharpe and the steel assassins, there’ll probably be a place in silksong like the pale kings workshop in the white palace, which might reference giving Void form
And the likes
yeah, that's what I think will happen too
You'll have to reach the Citadel, do a little progress, then have to backtrack and reach other areas before unlocking more of the Citadel
unless you're a pro gamer and find everything before going to the citadel
I wanna see the crazy tool sequence breaks people will figure out
Maybe you need to get 5 seals of approval from some rich people who conveniently live in different places on the map
They gonna be wild
Like a fucking permission slip
"I give parental consent that my spider child can invade the capital and kill royalty"
I swear we're gonna get a nazeem type asshole. "Have you been to the Citadel? What am I saying of course you haven't"
Sounds like Tiso
And like Tiso they will die
unlike Tiso, I will be the one to kill them
“Heard they’re reforming the Citadel guard. Cultist or something. Considering joining up myself”
"My cousins out there fighting cultists, and what do I get? Guard duty"
I dont think you can. Unless you want to pay a lot on ebay
how much are you willing to spend
“Ever felt the need to rise to the top of the citadel? For how tiny you look i think youll have a hard time reaching the top of the cookie shelf, let alone the citadel, so forget it”
“Favor the needle, eh? I’m a spearman myself”
man did I miss the skyrim references
“Whenever i impale the seventeethousandth cultist i feel like these guys’ mother has a reason to be not found anywhere.”
"I use to be an adventurer like you, 'til I took a pin needle to the knee"
“You see those Warriors from the colosseum of fools? They've got curved swords. Curved. Swords."
why did you delete the picture?
I don’t know
my knowledge on skyrim quotes isn't good enough to compete
The only people remember them is because theyre memeable and not because theyre good
Yeah but this quote is 
“What is better - to be born good, or to overcome your evil nature through great effort?"
-Mewtwo
- Sans
I mean that quote is good, but its pretty generic. But seriosly fuck the blades for trying to get me to kill my homie Parthunax
i wish for silksong to receive an anti piracy system just like the third spyro game had
What if all it said was “Get nosked”
The one where it lets you play through most of the game, but the final boss cant be beat? or something like that?
I think I finally found out why team cherry is taking so long to release silksong
Game resets in middle of final boss and it messes up the games functions in general (no pause, teleports to wrong rooms, etc)
because a rushed game gives them hate?
HK was a rushed game
it wiped your save at the end
it also stole your collectibles while you were playing so you had to go back and re earn them
Some rushed games are good. But most suck
its because they ran out of Vegemite 
Not only because of the construction of the new worlds as well as giving everyone a name, ||The lore must make sense if they are planning to make it a prequel/sequel since alternate universe would make it a completely diff lore and wouldnt depend of the first game's lore
First games are easy to make as they set down the lore, the second game must stick to that lore and expand it.
Main villain in Silksong is the beast mentioned in Pharloom’s folly
sherlock
What's Heerah doing in Pharloom?
who would have thought that the game title would have a connection to the story
what if the secret boss of SS is the pale king?
because that just doesnt sound good
Like how hornet can play on her needle
we know that phraloom is based around sounds and music
Hornet is using the Silksong to free the weavers 
we also know that hornet and the weavers do stuff with silk
ori
Ori
What
Hollow Knight copied Ori
||
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hey hey we don’t fart on other video games here buddy
Your no floor version is worse buddy
no, lava is trash
No it's literally one flat platform

Radiant markoth

What’s the main religion in pharloom? Hallownest worshipped a moth and then a worm, so it could be anything
Oh yeah maybe because gets spear spammed in the most unpredictable way by spears
they worship silk and song, its LITERALLY in the tittle
Giant enemy spider
Unpredictable? There are sound cues 
They worship ||the beast||(?)
It seems like they fear it
As the governments say, better being feared than loved
The spear placement isn’t tough, it’s actually forgiving as long as you aren’t running around clueless
And not worship it at all
Someone who is feared can easily rule the place, or do you disagree?
They see your beauty, so frail and fine,
They see your peace, woven of faith and toil,
They forget your heart, bound in slumber and servitude,
When you wake they shall see your truth,
A beast's nature bare to all.
- From 'Pharloom’s Folly' by the Conductor Romino
You can betray someone you love easier than someone you fear
I think the beasts goal is to party rock too hard
Main bad is conductor?? Maybe??
Giant Enemy Fool will be a backer boss in Crowsworn 
Conductor romino seems like an anarchist which makes me think hes part of laves gang
I always thought it was talking about a PERSON, but it could literally be talking about Pharloom itself 
Fun fact: ||the final boss of tboi has the same name||
I have death certificate you cant fool me
The beast seems to intend a spider god or some
The Beast's Nature part is referring to Pharloom itself
Maybe the conductor has something the others doesn't.
There is no actual beast, that verse just means that Pharloom has a beastly nature
I am a switch gamer
The only games i use keyboard for are nuclear throne and tboi
I mean it was the home of spiders
So yes it was beastly in nature
Oooo so many theories
That doesn't contradict what I said
The beastly nature refers to the fact that pharloom will go back to being governed by weaver
Romino
May or may not be a weaver himself considering the relation between silk and song
Mark my words
Both
What are the bells for then?
I thought one of em had some seal of binding on it but I can’t remember
Imo the bells were crafted to keep the weaver’s song away
I mean they seem to be pretty musical themselves with their final goodbye being a magic song of companionship
||I feel like the grimm troupe and the weaver tribe may be allied||
||Since song is the troupe's thing||
you really don't need the spoiler tags
It's just to give an effect
The troupe is part of the Dream stuff, how would that be related to weavers?
Lolwhat no please no fanservice no
Grimm again would just be boring and make no sense at all
Bruh
||What about someone else from the troupe then||
Only brumm dad 
I hugged brumm in my dreams once and he was wearing an omori hoodie
This is either good or horrifying
Sometimes my psyche puzzles me

No? That’s not a basis for a connection
What if the weavers are the ones making the Silksong? And hornet has to free em to fight some Bell-Loving tyrant
Hi joker
by that same logic the grimm troupe and that one bench in queen’s gardens are related because music

So true bestie
Bells either tune it down or power it up
This is game changing for some theories
In the ss discussion metagame-
The weavers aren't mostly dead where did you get that from

I don't recall that being there
The “edge” christmas balance patch released in a dlc notably buffed some smaller theories and proved some obvious points with small nerfs all around
you do realize we don't spoiler tag spoilers here, right?
It's amazing how many people don't read Channel descriptions 
I wonder if I put a spoiler in spoiler tag here ever
||Ched||
Happens a lot in lore 
I don't recall putting a spoiler tag in here unless it was to troll people
||
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A grand hunt seems to available early on unless that get changed
Hold on guys!!!! Let me just refight the final boss for 20 rosaries
I would assume you can accidentally do a quest before you accept it to not sequence break
Well yeah
I wonder if areas of the map will change like with infected crossroads
Like Moss Grotto just dies halfway through the game
I don't see much reason to return to Moss grotto since you'll likely have done everything by the time you leave (since we'll explore the shit out of it) also Moss Grotto doesn't seem as Central as Forgotten Crossroads where the final boss was in the beginning area
Moss grotto doesnt seem like the king of backtracking
^
My moneys on the bell city
^
We don’t really know how big moss grotto is, it could’ve changed 
Doesn't really change the fact that it likely won't be the final area in terms of story
SS seems to present Moss Grotto as an "out of Civilisation" place you start in and then just leave after you're done exploring
I just used it as an example
I'd use Gilded city more or perhaps Coral Forest/Ancient Sea could flood
Gilded city becomes rusted lol
Lmao
Yeah
However Forgotten Crossroads becoming infected Crossroads is heavily story related
So I was using that as comparison
There was a locked door in moss grotto, if I remember correctly
True true
Things can always change, it’s been a while since the demo anyway
yeah
inb4 Moss Grotto gets burned by Forest of Bones, turning into the late-game "Burned Grotto"
The arc where the Caste sends the Last Judge to burn Bonebottom
Cool fake idea gonna write that down
Oh no I’m starting to excite for silksong again 
*Throws Grenade
That’d be cool, imagine the war progresses as you continue the game
Carmalita is probably not gonna die
Actually, this came up earlier today
Wait were you there 
Most bugs we had to kill were dumbfucks who don't know how to quit
Or they were infected and already dead 
I wonder what the Last Judge is tied to within pharloom
Trobbio dies because he's a theatre kid 
That probably contributed
I could see Trobbio using pimpillos, and if he does, maybe he blows himself up on accident
Lmao
Started from here
sparkly boy makes a whoopsy daisy and freakkng dies
Tragic
Yeah very possibly, but I would just wonder lore-wise
Mix of both I'd assume
@proud vale what’s an outer wilds
Surely everything in the game is tied to plot
Warrior dreams were pretty un-related to lore
@proud vale I'll play it when it's avaiable on switch 
S tier game, play it
Even the Multiversal Mushroom?
do not play outer wilds
I have a PC but I'm not getting it for it
Unbased opinion go to the corner
Yes but what is it
Ok
i love causing problems on purpose
I said to the Corner young man!
the corner wants me
Space exploration game
Maybe you’ll meet Cornerifer
Time loop moment
But yeah you're also stuck in a time loop
im gonna go play some outer wilds now
Epic
Hype
#outer-wilds-discussion is great
I keep watching hollow knight videos and getting unreasonably hyped for a game that’s not getting any news for a couple months lol

December 2021 blogpost ofc
edge magazine ig
Feels too far and this time I'm confident because unless it's not out in 28 months Leth was right
December was such a hype month
The blog post that can’t crash
Feb for sure guys 
Q1-Q3 2022
:awkwardenemyfool:
SS before CS and CS is slated for DEC 2023 the latest
HAHA yeah gonna be honest I tried to type it out manually and then ended up with that
He said it’ll most likely be out before crowsworn, which is estimated to come out December 2023
But they said 2023
You literally don't have the credentials to back that statement 
They are a seven person team all with prior game experience, December 2023 was actually an estimate that they said could be later than when the game will come out
Do you work for Mongoose Rodeo? No, Do you have 1.25 million dollars? No
Hotel? Trivago.
We'll see what happens
I backed a board game expansion on KS 
Indeed
Most indie kickstarters are by people who've never made a game before 
But experience and size will
And again you don't work for MR so it's really not your call to make, Things remain to be seen, and unless we reach that date and no game it's going to happen that's how it works
Bloodstained?
I'm tired of you speaking as if you actually have game experience or experience in these companies
Backing a project doesn't mean you do 
What if you’re speaking to Leth’s alt 
No comment 🙂
Absolutes are never correct, but it is common for this to be true, which makes sense.
Buying/backing a game doesn't mean i'm a dev
Personally I see 2023 for CS.
Yeah and only a Sith deals in absolutes
Exactly!
Nah I just think you sit on a high horse cause you shoved your money in a lot of indie games 
I didn’t see this. I change my mind. 2024 is probable.
hello Markoth
Experience in game development is much more credible than experience in Kickstarter backing
I have literally no reason to believe you over MR
I think they set it to a date where they know they can reasonably reach it so they don’t disappoint people
I probably worded it wrong, they said that it might come earlier than December 2023 but that was their generous estimate
MR even said they gave themselves more time to make it plausable
crowsoon
Very early 2024 is what I’m seeing.
Silksoon is only a matter of 3-4 months now
If team cherry doesn't make any promises they can't disappoint fans 
crow...never?
my point still stands
I feel as though ss disc hasn't been this spicy for a while
As if a "cycle" applies to every company if one even exists 
we're awakening
nah it's 100% random
Que Awaken my masters
damn markoth be typing a long one
Who's MS 
microsoft ofc
AMONGOOSE
Amazing

They literally said what they had planned and that the stretch goals covered what they may want to add and any additional funds would go to improving said qualities they already have planned 
They even have post launch DLC planned an depending how it goes more on the way
Seems you just want to be desne to suit your narrative 
Unlike that talking sword we were speaking of early
Good, I'm tired of your pointless prattling of trying to be a know it all 
alright lets chill
starts argument
doesn’t like counter arguments
gives one last message and leaves
sure
What is that emoji
I gave counterpoints you just chose to ignore them in favour of your narrative and stastichtics 
Heh
Sounds like a man child trying to claim superiority by attempting to take "the high road"

You've done nothing but laud you know everything about this and you are right which of course isn't true
you two stop typing
immediately
This entire argument:
“I have experience”
“Mongoose Rodeo has more experience”
“>:(“
As soon as he gets off his high horse
I'm saying who won the discussion
I did, and you two lost
I'm a winner and you two are losers, thats it 
Probably not carrots, he wouldn't treat his horse that nice 
We're all losers for being born 
markoth more like poopoth 
the horse is high because it's being fed
Wait were you guys talking Caliburn from Sonic and the Black Knight!?! I just got here.
Nah it's just naturally tol
No I was referring to the talking sword from dead cells that we were talking about earlier and I stole the pun from Magnus chase and flawfully executed it
It’s ok, no one wants to talk about Caliburn…
This essentially boils down to "Most Marvel movies do well so they'll all do well because that's how it is it can't flop and most likely won't" 
For someone claiming to be older and more mature you sure are getting real mad over an emote 

Also for clarification I'm an adult I just don't like your arrogance of trying to be an absolute authority of the topic
That's a deflection but alright 
what we talking about?
It is, you're claiming that's how it is with CS
Sounds like some folks aren’t seeing the difference between perceived quality and success. Pokémon sword and shield is probably the most mediocre entry to date… yet it sells a ton. And btw, I still like all the Marvel movies.
Marvel Movies do be good yeah
idk ppl are arguing or some shit
what would a marvel movie have to do to flop
Suck 
i mean thor 2 sucked balls and still did well
Basically this man over here is trying to claim they know everything and they are absolutely right
it depends on your point of view
I bet the next Pokémon direct is going to be an apology + delay.
I don't have a problem with his view I have a problem with him thinking he's unquesitonably right
It ain’t.
anything and everything can be delayed if needed
remember when botw was announced for 2015
Team Cherry is one step ahead.
as frustrating as it might be to not have a release window, its smart on their part for not even having a window
its called an estimate for a reason
Wait I remember you, Markoth. You were the one baiting everyone so hard by saying pixel art video games are objectively bad.
You said the equivalent of "this how it was with other indie KS games so this is how it will be with CS" that sounds like you trying to be unquestionable right I don't really care if that's how it'll be I have a problem of you claiming it as such a definite when it's too early to tell
honestly silksong could release next month or next year for all i know
All I'm saying is it's too earl to tell 
markoth isnt wrong tho
You certainly implied it quite confidently but we'll see I suppose
I hope you don’t mean what I said.
temper expectations, but hope for the best
i mean that shit happens and stuff can and will be delayed
That makes it Arrogance 
I plan to make one with such style so I hope you'll like it
whenever it comes out
too many games just slap a pixel art look on a game that doesnt look good and it def shows

pixel art is fuckin hard to do right
Then I apologise, from my point of view you weren't wording it that way so it felt like that so sorry man
Shovel Knight and Shantae (Shantea?) caused the pixel renaissance.
I love typing on mobile. 
I'm just going to hope I can land the Blasphemous Pixel artist somehow 
HK didn't even finish the KS goals to this day 
I don't need that pressure man 
I actually made a pixel art game for my Intro to Game Design class last semester. Anyone want to try it out?
too many games go for that retro look and dont quite get it
then again badly done 3d or 2d art (looking at gleamlight) also looks like shit
so idk just put effort in, dont half ass the look bc itll make a game feel cheaper
the only game that did a simple cheap look right was undertale
I think the game Leth wants to make as his own game he had a pixel artist for it
i just wanna say that yoshis island is one of the best looking games ever made and that shit was 25 years ago
looks better than every game made for the 360
the benefits of pixel art is a sense of timelessness
exactly
As Aleks & Leth worded it "these were dreams ideas we'd love to implement if we had the funding for it so we added them as stretch goals because it would be cool to add it if we could" or something along those lines I get what you mean but I'm using the info I was given 
I never played SOTN and don't plan to 
I hope we get a 3rd playable character but considering the next game won't be HK related it may be awhile
artstyle is everything
PIN??
a good artstyle is how stuff like wind waker looks better than games on systems 20x stronger
@polar olive You have no idea how much your harsh criticism on pixel art shakes my soul due to wanting to make a game with it
it's a release date!
Leth's guestimate
i dint criticize pixel art, some of my fav games are pixels
who

leth is hollow knight's pr guy
i criticize bad artstyles, and some happen to be pixel art
what is cs
Ah ok it just felt like you hated them lol
Leth, the guy who directs the PR department. Disappointing you don't know him
^
silksong has pr ?
nintendo should make a good yoshi game again

And he made my favorite part of any pr project, the riddles for the passwords to the zip files with character info
with GOOD MUSIC PLEASE
how do i look up a two letter name
they have a trailer, no?
oh i thought that was just the demo
crowsworn petty
Did you mean pretty?
ohh that one yeah i saw it on mossbag
I meant petty, as in petty calzone, mr Pillow King
What does that even mean
my username
the guy's name who asked about cs
I see
i'm a good game player i think
I was staring at the bright flower
oooh fancy

no ? i don't say g-d's name
to make a long story short:
nintendo should make good yoshi games again
radiance i dare you

Absowute Wadiance
Nintendo should make M&L games again 
Nintendo should learn how to do basic online things
Nintendo should Nintendo
i mean dread is coming out in like 2 months
Are we talking about how Nintendo is still in the dark ages?
I wouldn't say so
nintendo isnt in a dark age
looks bad
Raisin said they should make gold yoshi games, and then the convo just kinda devolved
it's bad looking yeah, i'll stick with monkey ball
Personally don't care for Metroid but good for those who are excited for it 
Based
Monkey ball is the best
idk just maybe it gets better but the robots move so slow and the melee counter is too free lol
feels like i would just autowin
I'd like silksong to come out around mid 2024

ah yes the game that is currently not playable is too easy
i'll take a 2 minute dive 4 months after release see if it is fun to do anything in, then never play it still cuz i don't wat to pay 60 bucks
Ngl you just seem like a Negative Nancy at this point 
silk song? more like muckbang more like milk umm bong
Ballow Light: Milkbong
150 dollar pc yeah i play hk
How do you even get a PC for $150
january dealss
HK was only like 15 bucks at launch, wasn't it? @undone nova
And how is it not a potato
it was a killer deal i got 8gb of ram, 256 ssd, integrated hd graphics, and a celeron

14in screen and good hardware build
bro celeron suuucks it isn't terrible but managable i guess
lenovo thinkpad 11E
Ok 
i got it cuz a huge business was upgrading their stock so sold their computers new on ebay for 150 bucks
yeah of course do you think i use eye-sensory like steven hawking
i use joycons to play melee

Why in the absolute radiance would you use joycons? EVER?
i thought you meant for typing lol
Deciding on whether or not to label you a psychopath or Sociopath 
awesome dpad best in business
true
umm how about autistic
dpad on joy con epic
Same
But I don't use joycons for it I use pro controller 
eww EWW
pro controller supremacy
Pro controller supremacy
shame shame

is that classism?
Gang Gang

joycons »»»»»»»» pro controller
Joycons drift :(
Ok, mr probably uses a nintendo 64 controller and says it's functional
oh, alright then
I've personally never gotten dirft on my joycons
sorry i don't have the less than and greater than signs on my keyboard because i have a custom french keyboard layout and i am too lazy to fix that
My friend plays fortnite on a NES controller
That's more functional than a N64 controller though
the joycon dpad is legitimately, THE best dpad
That jutted point isn't helping anyone 
i tried it once it was usable i guess but nahh i like umm maybe joycons dpad + sony psvita thumbstics best controller
You know normally opinions are just a thing where we disagree on things but yours is just wrong in this case
This has devolved into controller talk, when this is a channel about silksong
i have big hands and stuff so i find umm as long as a controller isn't too tightly wound i am okay
First time?
your nametag isn't silksong related ergo you are contributing to off topic
We should put aside our differences and terminate this heresy 
But have we talked about… TOOLS?

umm
No new only old
the lifeblood syringe has to be the funniest tool
There was news about no news
PIN???
The funniest tool is the one I made up 
When autocorrect uncorrects the corrected auto 
i mean pin to the thread discutsttion
Relatable 
is that your bday
No that was like 16 days ago
My bday is 2h 20min 11 days
it would still be december dumb dube
ah, the 25th of August, huh?
Anyone wanna name some silksong enemies?
i'm fucking dumb
26th
it'ss like below 30
SS comes out Febuary 29th
ur mom is on my number

Really? No one?
Wen CS is out will you be a random CS boss name Mr Markoth
dang cs is coming out 2025 huh 🥺
I'm naming one Anthropomorphic bug A
and will have half the bosses of hk
Maybe but not really unless CS doesn't come out in DEC 2023
Silksong's development began close to after HK's release, so I think that silksong should come out before crow sworn
they are chill minibosses
MMC and soul warrior and undeniably mini bosses
Yeah
like failed champ yeah
I think silksong should come out this holiday
I f'in wish dude
i don't have him unoloced yet
We’re at the point where it’s totally possible probably most likely maybe
hi
hI
nor do i have umm pure vessel but i asked milkey to give me a modded save and he gave me an itemless hog save all capabilities, so i can play against itemless pure vessle now
what conspiracies are we cooking on the menu today
CS for DEC 2023 unless delayed
December silksong release
i wish gruz got upgraded on infected catacombs
2021 or 2022
The former

Now you're talking my Language 
the team of tc are min-maxxed left dude has width max and height min, right dude has height max width min
Couldn't that just be a placeholder date?
Hey salt any advice on surviving winter in Don't Starve?
and why are they always left and right ? must be intellectual siamese twins
or was that confirmed past the kickstarter date
Here we go again
spiders are your best friend
They said it was an expanded release date because they could ot it sooner but wanted to cover their grounds
We'll just have to see
1 monster meat 3 ice is meatballs thats all you need to live through winter
prove me wrong i dare you
I'm afraid to fight beefalo lol
How
do it and i'll do radhog
I barely know how to craft anything lol where do I even get that one black ingredient for crockpot
you can hunt for koalefants
oh dang 🥺
charcoal, you burn trees
I'm playing DS on the switch so idk if I have those
You’re wrong because lack of evidence for one thing does not equal evidence for another
i think switch has reign of giants and i think koalefants are base game
that's a false argument, inference does imply causation look it up on duckduckgo
I see, anything else I should know I don't know where to get half the shit for recopies aside from basic resources 
I see thank you
No I’m right
you should also get drying racks
oh dang, blind-arrogance! i can't winnn this argument
i cant wait for silksong to come out in x arbitrary units of time
I'd get one but I have other gamer financial priorities even though I'd love one
deerclops will pwn your sanity so just try to get as much jerky as you can
So on Switch you can either make a classic DS world RoG or SW idk if that's how it works on PC
i am kind of hungry but in a fake way where i am looking for an excuse to continue doing nothing, any ideas
yeah thats how it works in pc, sw is shipwrecked
false
so to some it up I should just cold damage tank with meatballs? 
make a thermal stone 
also take my words with a grain of salt, i play dst not ds 
precanalope
both make a jacket I think
careful, if you hit one all beefalo will aggro
What’s the difference
I'll get it one of these days
oh uuugh i forget the word for two apple pies
some bosses, dragonfly has around like 5k or something in ds while dragonfly in dst has 27k
How does one lure beefalo
you can feed it a single twig and it will follow you for a while
#ds-discussion when
i try to explore most of the map in autumn
@blazing geyser TC even calls it a sequel
I kind of just explore until I find a suitable base spot to build my science machine and alchemy machine and fire pit, maybe some walls
So smack one run away and then fight the closest one?
@plush herald
Hornet's entire life revolved around guarding Hallownest and trying to stop the infection. If she was kidnapped while guarding Hallownest, she wouldn't be trying to save Pharloom from the haunting of silk and song, she would be gtfoing out of there as soon as she could. Furthermore, the "proof" of it being a prequel is not only a translation, but the french translation, notorious for being inaccurate as hell. Now, if it was a sequel it would make sense that she would devote herself to Pharloom, as Hallownest had finally been freed from the infection and it's defiling.
I hear tentacle spike is pretty good should I invest in one also apparently ham bats and dark swords are op but I only know how to craft ham bats not that I could get the resources for it 
maybe tentacle spikes every now and then i dont think tentacles are renewable
also hambat is pretty easy to get, you can feed a pig 4 mosnter meat to turn it into a werepig
and i think it should be stunlocked if you keep hitting it
bad game no thank you
Ok
I'm probably going to forget a lot of this but I'll try
too bad 
Are they thinkng it's Dark souls instead of Don't starve? 
both games are bad because they're hard
Mad because bad 
dont starve is not hard what
dont starve together maybe but ds 
Except one of them I actually like 
ds is still kinda easy
you know what, fuck it
all games are bad
||including the game that you just lost
||
finally someone has the guts to say it





