sk-discussion

[rigid hornet]

Thx

[serene chasm]

hey Nimmer

[limpid kite]

You still going hollow?

[serene chasm]

going? Ive gone hollow a long time ago

[limpid kite]

Fair enough. You also waiting for Elden ring?

[serene chasm]

nah. Im excited for people to play it but not gonna get it

[cursive jetty]

Do we have any news on APWOT, or is it not out yet?

[limpid kite]

APWOT?

[worldly quarry]

Im excited for Elden Ring. Just not sure if my pc can handle it

[limpid kite]

Same. I can handle sekiro. So im optimistic

[cursive jetty]

It's an indie magazine and it's second issue has an interview with team cherry

[limpid kite]

aaah

[tall hinge]

i dont think its out yet

[limpid kite]

uurgh its 20 bucks

is there any hints towards it having new stuff?

[tall hinge]

nope

its about team cherry, not about silksong. so we arent expecting anything

[bronze plinth]

A small theory of mine regarding this part of the trailer. Hornet screams three times: 1 (something I don't understand), 2 she says ni and 3 she says san because Makoto Koji is numbering each jump...I wonder if the count continues if you combo the jumps without touching the ground

https://www.omniglot.com/language/numbers/japanese.htm

[tall hinge]

hmmm maybe

[chilly nexus]

😮

seems legit. I did karate (literally stopped right before black belt) so appreciate the counting

[tall hinge]

it would make sense but they might have it capped to 3 or 5 or something like that. but it would be super cool if there was some area where you had to jump up like 10 enemies

[chilly nexus]

this is actually such a nice touch, hornet's counting

ty for finding and sharing this Picnic

i so hope this is a legitimate feature

[spiral grotto]

Her thread likely represents the union between spiders and the royalty of hallownest. Her eyes are black implying that she is a person of violent nature. 1+1 is 2. Hornet has 2 horns. 1 hornet+2 horns=3. Triangles are 3. Illuminati is triangle. Hornet is illuminati.

[tall hinge]

lol did you put the first sentence there just to keep us reading?

[spiral grotto]

I too can over analyze and speculate regarding random details

[chilly nexus]

i appreciate the intentionallity of that message's structure

[spiral grotto]

Np

[chilly nexus]

(SS lore video coming soon btw )

[tall hinge]

send it to me when it launches please

[bronze plinth]

On a second look, her thread spool depletes after each jump so it probably caps at 3

[tall hinge]

yeah

actually, hornet starts at very low thread so you can probably do more!

[cunning geode]

and she gets silk refunded when she hits an enemy

[tall hinge]

it spends (1? 2? im not sure how to count these), so if you were full you could probably do it ~6 times?

and yeah including regaining soul it could be a lot

soul? whoops

rooky mistake

[chilly nexus]

"soul and silk are invariably bound" ~TC themselves

dw

[tall hinge]

im technically right

[bronze plinth]

I think it would have a little cooldown the same way the 3 extra soul containers take a little before filling the main soul container again

[tall hinge]

wait i was wrong

you can do it infinitely!

it uses 4 spools and you gain 2 when the needle hits the enemy, and when you hit the enemy - giving you 4 spools again

you can see when hornet doesnt hit anything it takes up 4 spools, but when she hits an enemy it immediately regains 2

so if there were a bunch of enemies ordered like that you could do it infinitely, in theory

[tall hinge]

yeah, could be

[orchid rune]

Did mossbag participate in any kind of podcast

[tall hinge]

not sure, why do you ask?

[orchid rune]

I don't know I kinda want to hear mossbag talk about ss or another interesting topic

[tall hinge]

i got my mossbag dose in the newest video, it should keep me up for a few months

[ember geode]

If mossbag talks about it it’s probably interesting

[simple basalt]

Bro is hornet a spider

[cunning geode]

half-spider

more or less

[tall hinge]

half-spider half-wyrm

[simple basalt]

So you could say she’s a spider

[tall hinge]

yes?

[cunning geode]

if you want

[vivid belfry]

Silk in the trailer is measured at 2 notches per "point" of silk, so the grapple expends 4 visual and 2 real notches when used, gives you back one when the needle connects, and gives you back another when hornet bounces off the enemy

[tall hinge]

yep, thats what i said

[vivid belfry]

Not guaranteed that's how the numbers will shake out of the real game though

[tall hinge]

true it was 2+ years ago so many things could have changed

[vivid belfry]

I don't see why they would make a movement ability that doesn't seem to do much damage cost MORE than 2 notches but who knows

[chilly nexus]

I think TC made that move use up silk in the way that it does so you can't skip or break the game via consecutive, in-air jumps. With wall jumping, you need the walls to be close together. with this tool, the silk is only refunded when hornet hits an enemy with it. When you hit a wall, you lose silk, so you can't keep grappling to wall after wall, effectively performing a wall-jump that bridges gaps larger than intended, while still allowing hornet to use this move in platforming sections designed around enemy placement

also, i just did a dry read-through of my script and my goodness it's like 30 minutes

[tall hinge]

oooh i love long lore videos!

[chilly nexus]

you're in for a treat :p

[tall hinge]

[coarse leaf]

Starring Giant Enemy Fool!

[tall hinge]

[chilly nexus]

idk how clear i'm being though. part of me wants to also just attach the script to the video's description so people can read it in case they don't understand it spoken :p

[coarse leaf]

I may or may not be joking

[tall hinge]

i dont think you need to worry, people can always rewind the video or if theyre really confused they can just ask in the comments!

i mean yeah you can just put a link to the script in the description if it really bothers you

[chilly nexus]

if i get enough comments i'll probably edit the description to include a link

[tall hinge]

nowhere

[nimble pebble]

What Silksong convos are going on here

[pallid flare]

nothing

[robust flame]

Apwot 2 is supposed to be coming out early next week

Idk if it’ll have ss news though

Anyone here?

[nimble pebble]

It won't have SS news

[robust flame]

I guess that sucks but the TC stuff will still be interesting

[left yacht]

Look behind you, I'm here

[robust flame]

I just thought the server was dead again lol

[heavy mason]

What happened with the sub sub channel for indie direct discussion?

[nimble pebble]

Archived

[heavy mason]

Rip. When’s that direct supposed to happen btw?

[nimble pebble]

wym

[tall hinge]

it happened a few days ago and the channel was archived because the event passed

[nimble pebble]

^

[heavy mason]

Ahhh I see. So no news eh. Rip

[nimble pebble]

I feel it was quite obvious when I said archived

[shadow jacinth]

Wait what’s ss

[nimble pebble]

Silksong

[shadow jacinth]

Ooooooooooooo

[heavy mason]

ScreenShot

[shadow jacinth]

No the channel name, someone alr answered

[nimble pebble]

#sk-discussion message

[shadow jacinth]

Past samus suit it got weird really fast

[nimble pebble]

SS is too big for an Indie direct

[heavy mason]

[nimble pebble]

Let's not forget Steam Support

[shell yacht]

steam support exists?

[shadow jacinth]

Oh yeah lol

[shell yacht]

i always see devs responding

[shadow jacinth]

Anyway ima go check my daily dose of yt then it’s off to hk

[nimble pebble]

idk but it stands for SS so it can go on the list

[shell yacht]

perhaps

[tall hinge]

[shell yacht]

i lost part of the list. pastas are hard

[nimble pebble]

Rip

[tall hinge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/809138951575175168.gif?v=1

[pallid girder]

How we doing

Waiting for ss in our cryostasis

[tall hinge]

as always

[nimble pebble]

One day

[tall hinge]

no news today, but tomorrow for sure!

[lament mauve]

How come when Hornet dashes, it activates her sprinting?

While our Knight needs a charm.

[tall hinge]

because hornet is more agile? i mean its just part of the game? wdym

[distant igloo]

because hornet is superior to knight

[lament mauve]

Dang.

You just did them like that.

Even if it is true.

[coarse leaf]

No. February. 24th. 2022!

[lament mauve]

I wonder if they have something planned for it.

Hollow Knight’s anniversary.

[distant igloo]

that makes sense actually

[formal karma]

they didnt last year S:

[silk walrus]

What are they even working on at this point? The game looked pretty polished from the showcase and trailers. I trust TC knows what they’re doing, just curious

[tribal merlin]

of course they wouldn't show unfinished or buggy looking areas in public

you can't make conclusions to the state of the game simply from what they want to show as basically advertisement

[silk walrus]

No of course not, that makes sense, it’s just weird how they show a game looking that good when it wasn’t close to being finished

Makes me hope they’re just adding in new areas and bosses

[tribal merlin]

they will definitely do cycles of playtesting and bug fixing all the time

that takes a lot of time since there's no formula that says "this bug can be fixed in X days"

[silk walrus]

Guess not

I’m glad we’re not getting a rushed game tho

[tribal merlin]

fixing bugs can also introduce new bugs you couldn't see because of the first bug.
or you can be forced to rewrite some code at a more basic level and have to change a bunch of other stuff afterwards

[tall hinge]

we only saw 2 small areas in the demo and even less rooms in the trailers. considering ss will be at least 1.5x bigger than ss without dlc on base launch it makes sense why 3 people would take this long to make this game as polished as it can be

[silk walrus]

Ok this never actually caught my eye before idk why but… three people are making silksong?

[tribal merlin]

yes there's 3 devs

[silk walrus]

Or am i getting this wrong, cause that’s impressive

[tall hinge]

indeed

only 3 people made hk and only 3 people are making ss

[tribal merlin]

there are more people involved in making stuff for the game (like music or voice acting) or playtesting

but the dev base is 3

[tall hinge]

yep, but for game development its 3 people

[mild sage]

i feel like silksong's gonna be centered around a cult where it's like
"open your soul and you shall be enlightened" or something
but the thing is it actually works
i think the enemies would all be a part of that cult and at the end of the game you'd have to fight the god being worshipped

[silk walrus]

Yeah ok that’s where i got the numbers mixed up lol

[tall hinge]

no worries! at least now you know

[silk walrus]

It’s inspiring that only 3 people are responsible for one of my favorite games ever tho XD

[tall hinge]

same

[silk walrus]

I wonder if they’re gonna make the game more challanging

Like… i’ve beaten all bosses radiant in HK now and even now i wish there was more. Can’t get mods either cause it’s on switch

[tall hinge]

daang

[robust flame]

They said in edge that ss will be similar difficulty to hk

[tall hinge]

i think graig said it was harder but im not sure

[tribal merlin]

probably there will still be challenge areas that are a lot harder than the average difficulty

[tall hinge]

unfortunately the regulars arent here to correct me

[serene chasm]

we're always here. Lurking. Watching. Waiting to strike

[pallid flare]

i am always watching

[languid linden]

I'm here too!

[tall hinge]

my saviors

[serene chasm]

As for Graig saying the game will be slightly harder. i dont think Ive heard of this or him saying so

[tall hinge]

hmmm then im probably misremembering

[tribal merlin]

he said something along the lines of "SS makes HK look like an unpolished turd" or so

[tall hinge]

o_O

[tall hinge]

ah well that was in 2019 so it was still "potentially"

[ember geode]

What does he mean when bosses have combo attacks

[serene chasm]

I think it will depend on the person. Some people will adapt to the quicker combat than others

[ember geode]

In the past 2 years they were trying to make the game harder

[serene chasm]

Think how lace does the quick jab and then swings her sword right after

[ember geode]

Yeah

[coarse leaf]

Silksong

[tall hinge]

blasphemy

heresy

absolutely preposterous

[nimble radish]

Tess, with respect, what on earth are you saying

[coarse leaf]

Silksong now

[serene chasm]

I think its a physics term

[tall hinge]

now youre talking

[coarse leaf]

Silksong never

[tribal merlin]

SilkSong meow 🐱

[pallid flare]

silknever

[tribal merlin]

Juan Borja died

[tall hinge]

dang pyro, that amazing joke just made me wonder, what does the number on your name mean?

[pallid flare]

i don't know

[ornate beacon]

Pyroooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

[tall hinge]

wow its a real mystery i suppose

[pallid flare]

rest in peace

what a mystery

[coarse leaf]

Hornet

[tall hinge]

no way

[coarse leaf]

Yah way

[tall hinge]

youre joking, right?

[coarse leaf]

[tall hinge]

[fleet temple]

it means silknever

[silver oak]

Schwa

Pronounced "uh"

[tall hinge]

the schw is silent

[silver oak]

Most common sound in language

Or at least in romantic/germanic languages

[tall hinge]

romantic?

[pallid flare]

awww

[tall hinge]

he must mean french/german

[pallid flare]

perhaps romanic languages?

[cedar trench]

hi guys

[silver oak]

Did you know that Hollow Knight: Silksong is the epic sequel to Hollow Knight, the epic action-adventure of bugs and heroes? As the lethal hunter Hornet, journey to all-new lands, discover new powers, battle vast hordes of bugs and beasts and uncover ancient secrets tied to your nature and your past.

[pallid flare]

yes i did know

hello

[tall hinge]

old news necro, smh

[cedar trench]

how are you

[pallid flare]

i am vibing

[cedar trench]

good to hear

[pallid flare]

you?

[tall hinge]

i like your name claire

[cedar trench]

surprised that my parents aren't basically threatening me with my life to sleep

[silver oak]

I'm thinking about doing another P5 run

[nimble radish]

yeah romantic languages are languages that come from latin

[pallid flare]

for the achievement?

[silver oak]

yeah

[cedar trench]

romantic languages are like

"i love you [in italian!!!!]"

[nimble radish]

heh

[silver oak]

I've gotten to NKG and beaten the last three bosses on their own in the last few days

[tall hinge]

good luck!

same i died to nkg a few times and then gave up and started waiting for ss

[cedar trench]

the term comes from "rome" known for its love and passion of holes in the asphalt

[tall hinge]

its not going that well so far

[cedar trench]

@ pyro i made an italy joke only us italians can laught at

laugh at it

[silver oak]

I think pyro is german?
idk I may be wrong

[pallid flare]

i laughed at the italy joke

I am from italian descent but was born in germany

[silver oak]

You europeans all look the same /j

[tall hinge]

take that back

[silver oak]

Imagine not speaking American wow

[serene chasm]

freedom beer guns

[pallid flare]

can anyone translate

[bronze plinth]

inches feets pounds

[tall hinge]

i think my rough translation is "silknever"

[silver oak]

Bald eagle holding a flag while riding a motorcycle

[pallid flare]

did you really just say "feets"

[cedar trench]

i have no idea what that means i only know

wine, medieval town #00074648748 and seafood

[pallid flare]

don't forget the noodles and bread

bread is our speciality

[cedar trench]

oh and literature and art

[silver oak]

I eat bread raw

Not even like good bread
Sandwich bread

[cedar trench]

and humanity patrimonies

[sterile sleet]

mmm sourdough

[cedar trench]

unesco people when they see europe: 🤤

[silver oak]

StereotypesBread in silksong

[pallid flare]

bread in silksong, yes or no?

[cedar trench]

i think we'll see some culinary specialities in ss

there seems to be a bar
and the piss jug seems like a drink tool

[tall hinge]

garlic bread mmmmm

[silver oak]

Lifeblood syringe = Pharloom drug dealers?

Maybe I should stop

Bread

[tall hinge]

breadsong

[silver oak]

I keep finding opportunities to pull out my baguette hornet picture

[tall hinge]

show

[silver oak]

I didn't make it
No idea who did

But it's there

[formal karma]

french translation?

[somber badger]

chant de soie

according to google

[tall hinge]

[formal karma]

i was more joking about the baaaad french translation of HK

buuut that's still pretty neat

[silver oak]

"I've been gone too long" or something right

[tall hinge]

dang, thats crazy

[languid linden]

Yeah, it was based off of an old version of the script

They did fix it recently

But now we found out about another problem!

The WL's dialogue when you get Kingsoul is replaced by the Godseeker's PK DN dialogue in P5

[silver oak]

[silver oak]

[pallid flare]

[silver oak]

Just died to nkg

[warm bone]

my finger got a paper cut

[tall hinge]

ouch

[silver oak]

I have a really strong motivation to beat P5 right now

It's the last thing I want to do before I play silksong

Whenever that happens

[nimble radish]

I'm sure you've got plenty of time left to beat p5

[silver oak]

[pallid flare]

i am going to say it

[tall hinge]

dont do it pyro

youre better than this

[pallid flare]

silk

[silver oak]

stop

[tall hinge]

no

[pallid flare]

n-

[silver oak]

NO

[pallid flare]

now

[silver oak]

[tall hinge]

[pallid flare]

i did it chat

[silver oak]

we did it reddit

[warm bone]

[ember geode]

Is there a chance that silksong will release on Xbox and ps?

[desert basin]

[split cypress]

silkeventually

[ember geode]

As soon as it comes out

[silver oak]

It's only releasing on the switch and pc

[nimble radish]

I don't think it'll release on xbox and ps at launch

[silver oak]

Other consoles will probably come later

[warm bone]

definitely

[obsidian juniper]

Will it come to ps4?

[warm bone]

later

[tall hinge]

it will definitely come at some point, just not at launch probably

[obsidian juniper]

Ok

[warm bone]

@obsidian juniper

[bronze plinth]

Good thing the game can run on a decent potato pc

[obsidian juniper]

I usually dont ask my parents for games but im willing to buy silksong on release date

[silver oak]

Heyyy potato pc gang

[obsidian juniper]

good to know,maybe i should try to get it on steam

[silver oak]

Although probably not for long, I got a shitload of money from my summer job and I'll be getting a whole setup soon probably

[obsidian juniper]

Nice

[silver oak]

Because I am a child with only disposable income
Thanks mom and dad

[warm bone]

finally can run minecraft shaders

[bronze plinth]

This is based on how HK runs on my gf's potato PC. My guess is that SS will have similar requirements

[tall hinge]

disposable income gang

[serene chasm]

[obsidian juniper]

I hope so

[left yacht]

Just get a gaming computer

[warm bone]

just get more money

[left yacht]

Exactly

[serene chasm]

stop being poor

[warm bone]

[silver oak]

Why can't homeless people just buy a house smh

[tall hinge]

😤

[silver oak]

Such an easy fix

[tall hinge]

imagine

[obsidian juniper]

Just create money

[tall hinge]

just print money illegally

[left yacht]

If it gets a gaming pc, yes.

[warm bone]

🏴‍☠️

[pallid flare]

but thats illegal

[left yacht]

But it's a gaming pc

[pallid flare]

you cant do that

[tall hinge]

ah damn

[obsidian juniper]

Law Is just a text

[split cypress]

CRIME is ILLEGAL

[serene chasm]

Do Crimes

[nimble radish]

they should make crime illegal

[obsidian juniper]

Just steal a silksong copy you dumb .ss

[tall hinge]

do gay, be crimes

[bronze plinth]

But then I won't be able to run silksong on my gamer pc

[left yacht]

As my elementary school teacher once said; "Murder is legal, as long as you are over eighteen."

[nimble radish]

be crime, do gays

[tribal schooner]

yes law is just text but crimes are actions, actions that hurt people and one can take them back

[obsidian juniper]

Its a joke :)

[nimble radish]

depends on the crime, some crimes don't hurt anyone

[obsidian juniper]

I should start using jk when im messing around

[tall hinge]

you can do /s to signify sarcasm/jokes

[left yacht]

Or

[tall hinge]

true

[obsidian juniper]

I thought s was only for reddit

[obsidian juniper]

So that Is what it meant

[nimble radish]

tone indicators aren't exclusive to reddit

[obsidian juniper]

I thought that specific format was from reddit

Good to know

[vital geyser]

What discussions have been happening here? I haven’t checked in this chat in a long time.

[tall hinge]

literally nothing

[hollow terrace]

The laws of pharloom

[obsidian juniper]

Were talking about why you should steal things /s

[dry valley]

Silk song more like

[nimble pebble]

I feel zote and feelspkman are good tone indicators that you're joking or sarcastic

[hollow terrace]

Law number one: Kill hornet

[vital geyser]

Yeah I can kinda guess nothing has been happening here, nothing new has happened for awhile.

[ember geode]

The bigger the wait the bigger the reward

[dry valley]

SS-discussion do kinda be like the black egg temple

[hollow terrace]

Dw we’ll talk about the development that was hollow knight

[ember geode]

Black egg temple doesn’t have eggs

[vital geyser]

True true

[nimble pebble]

The laws of Pharloom are the 57 preciepts of Zote but in the "Can I copy your homework, yeah just change it up a little" format

[ember geode]

Zote actually ruled pharloom before ruling hallownest

[nimble pebble]

Zote is from God knows where, but probably not Pharloom

[tall hinge]

ftfy

[obsidian juniper]

Zote Is the cooler jesús cristh

[warm bone]

zote is jesus

[obsidian juniper]

Zote Is a Jesús that can create life that explodes out of sheer anxiety aka a better jesús

[nimble pebble]

Moving on

Do you think Hornet will have movement tools?

[tall hinge]

like spiky balls?

or do you mean strictly movement and no combat capability at all

[tribal schooner]

like a motorcycle?

[proud vale]

I wonder how many crazy sequence breaks we can do with Hornets kit

[nimble pebble]

bit of both

[nimble pebble]

Card games on motorcycles

[nimble pebble]

The game will probably work in a way where those won't happen as much

[tribal schooner]

that series of yugioh did not make sense

[obsidian juniper]

Maybe there Will be some tools that upgrades a existing move,kinda like dashmaster

But i think they Will probably be the equvalent of speels on silksong

I just realised this channel its meant to be about silksong

Im a genius of unimaginable brain

[nimble pebble]

A good example of stopping the sequence breaks would be giving you the sequence breaking tools post getting the ability to traverse a certain area you could sequence break with it

[silver oak]

Thou shalt not know anything about the laws of Pharloom

[left yacht]

Is that a law?

[silver oak]

Sequence breaking is okay if 1) It's after you get an ability that fixes it or 2) is really really hard to perform (like shade skip or acid skip)

That second group is good for speedrunning

[nimble pebble]

I kind of meant that for 1

[stoic jacinth]

Sequence breaking might be really wacky in SS

the spiky ball, needle throw pull move thing, lots of stuff like that. Seems like hornet has so much potential for skips in general

[left yacht]

Nah

[nimble radish]

but leth said

[left yacht]

Nah

That works

[serene chasm]

graphs were invented by the lizard people to blind you from the truth. WAKE UP SHEEPLE

[nimble radish]

don't call me a sheeple you believe that lizards exist

[left yacht]

Sheeperson?

[nimble radish]

sheepson, surely

[left yacht]

Much better, yes

[silver oak]

Graphs don't exist

[serene chasm]

Im too dumb to get this

[coarse leaf]

lol

[serene chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/kool-aid-wall-crashing-through-breaking-wall-oh-yeah-gif-4093663

DID SOMEONE SAY TOOLS!?

[tribal schooner]

i honestly cnt tell if you are joking

[errant pulsar]

whats happening this time

[serene chasm]

graphs

[errant pulsar]

graphs? is tess here?

[serene chasm]

very lore friendly graph

[silver oak]

how high hornet average*

I assume she goes down at some point

[serene chasm]

Really high

[silver oak]

eyyyyyy

what

[errant pulsar]

this is just an adhd brain

[serene chasm]

Get out of my head

[errant pulsar]

no

[silver oak]

We don't know if there will be dlc or not

[harsh compass]

its been two years aaaaaaah

[silver oak]

We also don't know if there'll be a bossrush or not

[harsh compass]

there is one already, just not released yet, only anounced

fair

[serene chasm]

Will we ever admit that none of us know anything about TC or actual dev times?

[haughty brook]

It is, because developing varies so much from devloper team todeveloper team

[silver oak]

No
We will continue to make wild claims with little to no evidence
And we'll like it

[serene chasm]

Yeah! Fuck evidence

[silver oak]

For many people silksong is the first game they've had to wait for

[serene chasm]

That was a thought that came into my head a while back. Glad Im not the only one who thought it.

[tribal schooner]

well you wont be disappointed if it comes out sooner then

[young cove]

[silver oak]

You can reply to people fyi

You don't have to ping them every time

Nice

[serene chasm]

Nice

[untold oracle]

Nice

[cunning geode]

well replies still ping unless you turn it off

[silver oak]

yeah but it's a bit less awkward

Makes conversations easier to follow

[serene chasm]

remember when everyone was up in arms about replies

[silver oak]

Is there a way to permanently turn off reply pings?

Like in discord settings?

[serene chasm]

I think so

I just dont know how

[serene patrol]

I feel like most game devs announce a game closer to the deadline when its released ... so the existence its known for a short period before it can be bought ... so thats why it felt long for silksong ... but maybe thats just me

I have a strong feeling its close ... but i do kick myself everytime i say that to myself

[olive bobcat]

[serene chasm]

SS will come out any second now. Any second

[serene patrol]

I hate to say it but i have a strong feeling it is

A feeling in my gut

[silver oak]

of the infinite seconds, silksong will release on one of them

[serene chasm]

mods. Why isnt mrshrigma not a emote yet?

[olive bobcat]

EXACTLY

You should ping them about it

[serene chasm]

petition.org that shit

[silver oak]

How many emotes can you have in a level 3 server

[serene chasm]

like 12

[serene patrol]

We'll see man

[silver oak]

No you should ping them

[serene patrol]

Couldnt tell yet but its coming

[serene chasm]

250

[silver oak]

same thing

12, 250, who cares

[olive bobcat]

Tbh, hearing how TC was doing financially back in the day during HK's dev, I'd believe it if the trailer being so close to release was because they wanted to get it out already

[serene chasm]

The mods arent adding mrshrigma because they know that SS is coming out soon and want to save spaces for the influx of SS emotes!

[serene patrol]

Or it could be a marketing strat

[serene chasm]

Even if theyre doing better finacially this time around. I wouldnt mind them doing the 2 weeks between trailer and release. Nothing is more annoying then getting a release date trailer and having to wait another month or more

[serene patrol]

Tbf the game was known to existence long before the release date was announced

[olive bobcat]

Jokes on you they're making it three

[serene chasm]

NOOOOO

[serene patrol]

NOT 3

[olive bobcat]

Also fair point Rev

[serene patrol]

ANYTHING BUT 3 WEEKS

[olive bobcat]

3 months

[serene chasm]

[silver oak]

3 seconds

[serene patrol]

All that time is going to be spent reacting to the damn thing LOL

[proud vale]

Give me 3 years

That should provide enough time to cut all ties so I can fully dedicate my life to silksong

[serene chasm]

some random valve employee in the server: * visible confusion *

[mortal grove]

hi

[silver oak]

yo

[frank sparrow]

afternoon guys- totally didn't just wake up hehe

[serene chasm]

How late in the afternoon is it?

[silver oak]

Between 10:30 am and 1:30 pm

[frank sparrow]

its only 12:34pm

[silver oak]

I know where you live discord

[frank sparrow]

[mortal grove]

[frank sparrow]

yo bring some food we can have a hk party

[mortal grove]

flea hamnboinge

[silver oak]

Sure, I'll take my private jet that I use to avoid COVID fears while travelling

[cunning cove]

so even though im still sad there is no silk song news yet, imagine that shit drops with like 500 hrs of solid story/exploration content on day one because of how long they have had to develop

[silver oak]

It has about 2 tons of popcorners in the back so I hope you like those

[mortal grove]

dont expect too much

[silver oak]

do you know how long it takes to make a video game?

[cunning cove]

can only extrapolate with what they have shown they have finished at different points and assume they continue working at constant pace

so in a word... no not really

[silver oak]

Three people can't make a 500 hour game in four years. Unless it's on purpose like the longing, 500 hour games take huge teams to make regardless of time or money.

6

[cunning cove]

was an exaggeration, but yesh i get that. the content of the original post is "maybe all this wait isnt such a bad thing, maybe this game is just huge compared to hk"

[silver oak]

I'm expecting it to be bigger, but not anymore than 1.5x the size

Even that is absolutely massive, considering how big HK is already

And keep in mind, HK added a lot of content after release

[fiery coral]

Blackadder

[trim estuary]

Expect at most 2x as big as HK

[silver oak]

To me even that feels like too much

I think everyone forgets how big HK actually is

[trim estuary]

I wonder if the modded community is just going to mod in Hallownest to silksong

But if they also added the knight they’d just be able to pirate HK if they own Ss

[fleet temple]

it wouldn't be good but they'll still do it

[trim estuary]

Might be simpler just to make Hornet playable in Voidheart

But then that also would just be piracy

Idk but can we have one player play as the knight and one player play as hornet and duel someday

[dry valley]

It’s feasible, I’m pretty sure that SS and HK run on the same engine and stuffs

[vocal orchid]

Backporting a character isn't piracy

[shy stirrup]

Hk quite literally has one of the largest metroidvania map

Ss will 100% not be double that

[vocal orchid]

You sure? Rain World is pretty damn huge

[shy stirrup]

Like you said, af most 1.5

[silver oak]

I think Ori 2's map may be bigger as well

[shy stirrup]

Ik its definitely in the top 5 at least

[silver oak]

You move a lot quicker in ori tho so it feels smaller

[serene patrol]

Ori somehow doesnt feel as deep as HK for some reason

Its a very good metroidvania game but why does it not get me hooked

[shy stirrup]

I played ori 1 and even tho i loved it, it's not good as a metroidvania

[serene patrol]

Its diff from HK and i dont know why

Ori 2 was amazing

[shy stirrup]

The game feels really linear

[shy stirrup]

Definitely tryin it soon

Heard it improved the combat a lot which was my biggest complaint with ori 1

[silver oak]

Even tho Ori 2 was the better metroidvania I liked ori 1 as a game better

[shy stirrup]

Also ori 1 just doesnt feel that replayable to.me for some reason

Ive tried but i keep putting the game down every time

[serene patrol]

Yeah u should. For me, i finished HK at 102% right ... i got bored so i bought ori 1 ... i played it and i felt huh its alright ... and then i played the 2nd one and i felt wow okay this is very good ... its amazing ... but i still come back to HK and havent played ori 2 since i finished the story

Its an amazing game tho but i always come back to HK eventually

[shy stirrup]

A big problem with ori 1 for me was that it just focused on platforming and nothing else

[serene patrol]

The combat is a bit boring isnt it?

[shy stirrup]

Combat is literally half of what makes a metroidVANIA good

Hk has a fairly good balance even though i wish there was more challenging platforming

[serene patrol]

Well

[shy stirrup]

Pop and white palace and maybe queens gardens and thats it for challenge

I guess some of crystal peak

But again the rest of the platforming is still good

[serene patrol]

Crystal peak was challenging for us casuals at least imo ... cuz some ppl dont even do pop ... so i guess its good in a sense that there are moderate number of places with challenging platforming and not every single place

[shy stirrup]

Yeah fair

Im sure first playthrough me had a tough timr

Actually i know for a fact i did. I guess its just that once your good it doesn't offer much challenge other than pop and white palace

Honestly yeah im wrong the platforming is fine

[serene patrol]

Yeah thats true ... for obvious reasons of course ...

The pogo is a great mechanic too

I hope pogo comes back on the next game

[shy stirrup]

Ss will have pogo but different

You pogo diagonally

[finite ingot]

Silksong
More like
Doesnt exist... song

[lament basin]

ori 2 is supposed to be more of a linear action-esque experience

[dry valley]

hey guys chekc this out

yes

[olive bobcat]

Check this out

(edited is the correct term, or recreation)

[slim meadow]

Silksong where are you, stop hiding and let me love you!

[elfin badge]

They should release the demo publicly so everyone can play it

[olive bobcat]

nah

[fleet temple]

leth said that probably won't happen

[silver oak]

check THIS out

[mortal grove]

[serene chasm]

I wonder what "discover your song" means

[naive flax]

wtf leaked

[cerulean sable]

Hornet becomes an experimental post rock artist to fight against the cringe orchestral traditions of pharloom

[serene chasm]

I hope hornet goes full punk

[cerulean sable]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jF9We7dIGfo

Silksong's final boss is just this between Hornet and Lace

[serene chasm]

Im down for that

Needolin Battle

[cerulean sable]

cant wait for the hundreds of post on R Games on Silksong's review thread with
"I was liking the game until i had to do a 6 star full chart song on Needolin Hero, then the game just became a slog"

[brave stone]

Weavers can some how make music it is tied to their lore. The Weavers song charm says it contains a song of farewell. What ever that means

[serene chasm]

music was dope af though

[serene chasm]

means that that weaversong was meant for hornet to protect her but the knight stole it and thats why she gets kidnapped

[brave stone]

HA maybe

[dry valley]

i love the intensity in "hunt your captors"

[cerulean sable]

for real

[dry valley]

hornet honey you have GOT to kill them

[cerulean sable]

it excudes with "Im not stuck in this kingdom with all of you, youre all stuck in here with me" vibes

[dry valley]

bug wick 2: silksong

[brave stone]

BUT BUT Hornet can't equip charms...only ...TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLS

[dry valley]

love this characters

bug rider

[split cypress]

sly and his "master"

[dry valley]

wait wait WAIT

[charred pulsar]

[serene chasm]

Hola Simo

[dry valley]

there's probably going to be characters that attack you with tuning forks

because music

that would be the so cool

[mortal grove]

hi

[chilly nexus]

imagine if they can hit their tuning fork on the ground and stun you if you're on screen from the reverb

[mortal grove]

would make for a good boss

[chilly nexus]

even just as like a super weak enemy in an area with tougher enemies or things, to encourage enemy prioritization

or so you have to find the best way to get to them quickly without aggroing the bigger enemies yet as best as you can

[main relic]

I've decided to animate all the enemies I've created, so that's gonna be fun

[cunning geode]

that's all folks

you can go home now

[barren roost]

if you look at the emote list you can see that at some point people were running out of ideas for characters

[olive bobcat]

The emotes need to be cleaned out, some are just useless

[nimble pebble]

[olive bobcat]

That one stays, it's funny

[compact canyon]

[chilly nexus]

[olive bobcat]

That one is useless

[cunning geode]

all in good time

[mortal grove]

thank you for playing the demo is the new rickroll

[olive bobcat]

I made it I can get it removed

[mortal grove]

[nimble pebble]

[barren roost]

what's the correct context for that one, even?

[olive bobcat]

I do not remember

[mortal grove]

[cerulean sable]

stats for silksong

i want to get a special random drop tool that gives me 0.2% extra attack speed

[dry valley]

i was just thinkin today about the idea of item drops in silksong

things would get pretty grindy

[shell yacht]

what if it was like DS droprates for super unimportant or on purpose rare things

like mimic helmet for example

you can absolutely live without it, and also do multiple runs never knowing it exists, but if you got it its helpfull but not to die for

[frank sparrow]

[mortal grove]

wo

[fiery coral]

one Proof of a Concord Kept per 700 Silver Knights killed

fun!

[shell yacht]

just git gud at pvp

[fiery coral]

I can't play online, I don't have PS Plus

[shell yacht]

[serene chasm]

imagine paying for online

[frank sparrow]

imagine playing online

[fiery coral]

that too; it's not like I'm particularly inclined to play PvP either

[shell yacht]

SS imvasions or riot

[serene chasm]

SS battle royale

[shell yacht]

banned

[fiery coral]

RIP Curly 🪦

[serene chasm]

am ded now

[onyx harness]

F

[barren roost]

if god is a #hk-lore enthusiast, I swear to-

to something or other

[fleet temple]

you can now play as luigi

[dry trench]

Give silksong or else I will poop in your mailbox

[green kraken]

how would you even get the angle to poop in it

[digital junco]

[valid moon]

Just become a carpenter bird

[green kraken]

Guessing you guys heard of apwot 2 guys maybe that may have a little news

[undone nova]

brooo those are awesome HAAHHAH

[green kraken]

How to make 20 emotes in 10 minutes LOL

[coarse leaf]

Simple. Tilt the mailbox

[green kraken]

big brain

My mailbox is attached to the wall though

Just discovered this server hopefully news out this year :D

Quiet server

No one awake?

[frank sparrow]

working on art atm

also welcome hope you're ready for disappointment as you live here

[green kraken]

It is early morning here so idk

[frank sparrow]

dont worry

people pop in here at any time

they'll eventually say something

[green kraken]

Ok that is nice

but yes hopefully apwot 2 has a little info

Even if they said it's more about team cherry

[frank sparrow]

apwot wasn't about ss anyways- only on TC so

[green kraken]

Pain

[copper knot]

is apwot out

[frank sparrow]

apparently

[copper knot]

only physical, no?

[mortal grove]

hi

[green kraken]

They are shipping next week I heard

[coarse leaf]

Crowsworn > Silksong

[green kraken]

lool

Maybe it'll come out first

[warm bone]

it won't

[green kraken]

The marketing guy from team cherry went to them

[warm bone]

he said it will be coming after silksong

[signal crag]

Not certain it won’t, just unlikely based on what Leth said

[green kraken]

Oh ok

[coarse leaf]

hello guys

still no SS

[mortal grove]

dont you mean

[livid spear]

crowdworn is confirmed to come out before ss?

[green kraken]

Apparently

[warm bone]

elden ring will likely come out before silksong

[green kraken]

Hollow knight had a trailer like a month before release?

[coarse leaf]

silk song summer 2022

[livid spear]

but.... does that mean ss will come out like... in 2023?

[green kraken]

Yes or earlier...

[mortal grove]

no

[livid spear]

because crowsworn creators say the game will release luckily in 2023

[mortal grove]

no one knows crowsworn release date

[mortal grove]

thats likely to be changed

[livid spear]

ohhh okey thanks

[mortal grove]

no way they're making a game in 2 years and making it good enough

[livid spear]

i just hope to see ss in 2022

[mortal grove]

im thinking sep - december 2022

[livid spear]

how much time did it takes to them to make hk?

[green kraken]

Corwsworn will have some early access thing apparently

[livid spear]

like 2-3 years?

[coarse leaf]

3 years I think. I think the Kickstarter opened in 2014

[warm bone]

they were working on it a while before the kickstarter

[livid spear]

and when was the ss one? sorry for my bad english

[mortal grove]

FOR SS i mean

[warm bone]

like 5 years I think, total

[coarse leaf]

5 years??? oh fuck

[coarse leaf]

I think SS was annocued in 2019

[warm bone]

though, they did need to change engine midway through and development did not get off the ground for a while

[livid spear]

damn, it would be in 2023...

[tardy orbit]

Also its easy to forget why SS is taking a while, but then you see how the combat is much more complex, the backgrounds are all multi-layered in this game, and there are way more physics implementations in the world and you realize where the time is going.

[coarse leaf]

yeah not looking to hot. but here's hoping for the best

2022

[livid spear]

but they have lots of money now, the might be able to doit faster

[mortal grove]

theyre still a 3 man team

[green kraken]

I'm gonna graduate by then and be too busy for games...

[livid spear]

i still think they should take they time anyway

[coarse leaf]

I have already graduated

[green kraken]

😫 😋

[livid spear]

i graduate next year

[green kraken]

I'm entering my third year lul

[livid spear]

luck!

what do you do while waiting for ss? i literally just watch speculation videos for the game over and over

[green kraken]

Play other games

[livid spear]

kinda sad

[tardy orbit]

It's been 2.5 years... how you gonna do that for so long

[green kraken]

I have trouble focusing on work.maybe I should quit a bit xD

[coarse leaf]

after I beat the game I spent maybe 2 months obsessing over it but than I just kept checking up on the discord to see for SS news.

[livid spear]

can you recomend me a game like hk?

[livid spear]

i played hk for the first time two months ago

[tardy orbit]

Ok thats more fair

[green kraken]

Like hollow knight? I don't really play other metroidvania I like platformers and rogue likes

[livid spear]

probably im just gonna stop soon

[green kraken]

I like smash bros, league, Isaac, and am starting celeste

[livid spear]

i dont really play lots of games, usually i just like the ones that have good art or something like that

[livid spear]

ohh i played celeste

[green kraken]

Only on first chapter but it says I'm missing berries

XD don't wanna google though

[coarse leaf]

I haven't really been able to find a game similiar to HK

[tardy orbit]

Other good Metroidvanias include the ori games and la mulana

[warm bone]

I would beat the game once and then go back for the berries

[green kraken]

Hmm is the game really hard?

Some of the first parts are not too hard but kinda tricky

[warm bone]

celeste, not terribly difficult for the normal levels

[green kraken]

Alright

I've played some meat Boy before

[mortal grove]

do farewell

[green kraken]

What's that

[warm bone]

the hardest levels in the game

[tardy orbit]

Oh and guacamelee is a good metroidvania

[green kraken]

In Celeste? Ok lol

[warm bone]

guacamelee looks fun

[tardy orbit]

tis'

[cerulean sable]

obligatory play battle brothers its one of the besth ollow likes of all time

[tardy orbit]

ollow likes?

[green kraken]

It says it's a tactical rpg

[warm bone]

ollow'

[green kraken]

He meant hollow like

Uh ohh

So many games I wanna complete but school starting soon zzz

[warm bone]

they're not going anywhere

[cerulean sable]

does it matter theyre both gritty, have melee weapons and undead. According to HK fans thats a good enough metric of why its a ripoff

[warm bone]

you know, all first person shooters are just doom ripoffs

[green kraken]

That is the dark souls of tactical rpgs

[mortal grove]

hi

[green kraken]

Hi

[fleet temple]

hi

[ruby garden]

hi

[crisp drift]

hi

[dusty nimbus]

Hello there

[bleak scarab]

Hey

[fleet temple]

howdy

[limpid kite]

Hi

[frank sparrow]

hola

[lapis oar]

?sspsa

[thin zephyr]

Reminder: The latest news for both Hollow Knight and Silksong is in #hk-announcements.
Check the pinned messages for more information, including a FAQ.

[tulip brook]

Hi

[surreal mortar]

what’s up

[copper knot]

hello

you know what i dont think i wanna be active in this discord for a while

[mortal grove]

hi

oh

[copper knot]

bye for a bit
kinda feelin miserable

ill return soon enough i think

[mortal grove]

hope you feel better soon

[dawn bolt]

sup

[short peak]

[dawn bolt]

go see the #hk-meme for the official box art for silksong deluxe

[green jewel]

[fleet temple]

[dusty nimbus]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/331316693941092362/812175197380542464/image0.gif

[proud vale]

That is a hype emote

[fleet temple]

indeed

[proud vale]

Pokemon direct in a few hours apparently, hype-ish

[pallid flare]

silsknog in pokmon direct???

[proud vale]

For sure

Why do you think I'm mentioning it

[fleet temple]

silksong at minecon trust me guys

[orchid rune]

At what time Is the pokemon direct

[proud vale]

In almost exactly 2 hours

[orchid rune]

Ok thx

Totally not waiting for ss

[fleet temple]

imagine waiting for ss in ss discussion

[cerulean sable]

i haete pokeohmon

[proud vale]

I'm keen for Arceus legends but I'm not sure if the FPS is gonna be a shit show or not

[shy stirrup]

Silksong comes out today lets goo

[cinder violet]

what

[proud vale]

[cinder violet]

silksong isnt coming out. its like elden ring in the form of a platformer

[winter cypress]

do you guys know how many memories hornet retains after going to pharloom?

like does she remember hallownest?

[proud vale]

Not too sure.. we would assume she remembers hallownest in general but just her old abilities she's hazy on? Not exactly sure though

[winter cypress]

alright, thanks

[shy stirrup]

My gues is that entering pharloom makes you lose your memorie but since hornet is a demi higher being she doesnt lose everything

[winter cypress]

and maybe cause the cult guys are possibly haunted they retain their memories?

or at least dont have any to lose

[shy stirrup]

I think they dont have any to lose

Pharloom is basically just a memory reset at least i think

Im probably wrong tho

[tall hinge]

maybe she lost her powers and memories because she left hallownest and gave up on pk's mind power connectivity free will thing?

[shy stirrup]

I doubt thats id

Cuz quirell still retains somr hazy memory and he isnt even a higher being

[split cypress]

quirrel is a higher being to ME

[shy stirrup]

Im pretty sure that was cuz of monomons mask tho

But idk im kinda rusty on hk lore

[tall hinge]

was quirrel originally from hallownest or did he get there from another place?

[olive bobcat]

Wait when does the Pokemon direct start

[shy stirrup]

Originally from hallownest

9am est aluo

So 40 mins

[olive bobcat]

Ok cool, I should be able to catch the start

[olive bobcat]

Where is it

https://tenor.com/view/eric-andre-let-me-wahh-wild-go-gif-13490041

[proud vale]

No clue gonna be honest

[trim estuary]

Ye mum

[split cypress]

its at my house

[trim estuary]

Got it, I’ll be there soon

[proud vale]

I think it's on Pokemon's youtube channel

Thoughhh they probably should've started the stream by now

[olive bobcat]

Doesn't appear to be, but maybe I'm bad at looking

[tall hinge]

i think you got the date wrong

[mortal grove]

aegislash

[proud vale]

What

My hopes have been shattered

[mortal grove]

the best pokemon

[fluid orchid]

At the level of dev of silksong, I will finish dead cells 5bsc, I just got the 4th bsc and was difficult as hell

Pokemon in almost a overexploited franchise

[tall hinge]

idk what that means, but nice!

[fluid orchid]

Dead cells is a roguelike game, very difficult, where you need to pass the game 6 times in increasing levels of difficulty before the real final boss

My death rate is around 200 times

[tall hinge]

[dreamy zenith]

200 times per increasing level?

[fluid orchid]

As a roguelike you have 2 weapons and 2 skills, that reset every run to be random, and you can change them on the run, there is biomes, bosses, and death, a lot of death

No, I've died more than 200 times in that game, and when you die, you start from the beginning of that difficulty

Every time you kill the hand of the king, you get 1bsc, boss stem cell

[dreamy zenith]

uhuh

so total

[fluid orchid]

Every accumulated bsc increase the total difficulty on enemies, but also you get better gear, unlock more path, and new enemies with increasing strategies and dangers

[dreamy zenith]

dead cells seems pretty fun, although a large grind

[fluid orchid]

275 death, 98% from enemies, 1% from traps, and 1 suicide

[dreamy zenith]

yep

[tall hinge]

i tried it once but i dont really like rougelikes so it didnt stick

[olive bobcat]

Yeah it's a cool style and all but I didn't enjoy it

[fluid orchid]

I didn't like it either, but the style of changing weapons in every run is what makes it interesting

[tall hinge]

i also didnt enjoy hades that much

[fluid orchid]

Wanna try swords? Change it later for bows

All weapons have different mechanics

There is even a sentient sword

[trim estuary]

Does it talk?

Cause if it does I can say that the sword has a point

[tall hinge]

i hate you

[fluid orchid]

He does, also, if you use a pet oflr a similar skill, this sword murders it, triggering an achievement

[tall hinge]

what?

[fluid orchid]

There is an owl and a mushroom boy, if you use them with the sword active, the sword murders them

[tall hinge]

ooh

[fluid orchid]

https://youtu.be/tElnpwVZX8o

[tall hinge]

it does speak apparently

[trim estuary]

He does get an edge in arguments, being a deadly weapon and all.

[fluid orchid]

https://youtu.be/m1VMrLOntcc

[shy stirrup]

Whoops

[silk summit]

Silk Song theory: Pharloom is the homeland of The Weavers or a much more violent sect that split apart from The Weavers who went to Deep Nest. They have constructed a beautiful chapel to attract pilgrims to their deaths. The chapel is populated by automatons who are not there to guard people out, they are to drive people to climb higher into the web. They want Hornet to take the Throne because of a prophecy or something.

[shell yacht]

[upbeat marlin]

I believe that the weavers are native to pharloom as well my theory is that the bell cultists took over pharloom and as revenge the so called 'beast' mentioned in the pharlooms folly poem cursed them

And thus they are haunted by the silk and their obsession with sending silk up to the citadel began

[shy stirrup]

Was the cultist theory debunked yet or not?

[kindred fog]

I think the ending that ends up to ss is beating the radiance

Hornet mentioned that the bindings in the egg weakens her

[barren roost]

I think silksong will be shadow dropped here /j

[restive garden]

FLEAS

[stark prism]

all fleas will die or something

[coarse leaf]

hello

[coarse leaf]

but
fleas :(

[proud vale]

I wonder if the amount of fleas unlock new things to purchase with the flea caravan

[formal karma]

hopefully, that's be a little more interesting

unless the actual concept is even more dope

[old totem]

Has development on silksong started yet?

[white horizon]

It started like 2 years ago or something

They are working on it I think

[stark prism]

that's the plot twist

i will be severely disappointed if 90% of cute things and side characters in silksong don't suffer a horrible fate

[serene chasm]

"thank you for saving all the fleas hornet. Can you see them? no, sorry, but here is a super special elixir. Now dont go questioning where we got it from"

[pallid flare]

they all went to heaven :)

[analog forge]

no, they all went to a special farm in hallownest

[stark prism]

i hope you will be able to fight the caravan after getting back all the fleas

and chose to rob the cart after beating the shit out of them

[boreal kettle]

they went to a farm upstate where there’s lots of room for them to run

[analog forge]

to run and jump and climb

[mortal grove]

Flea hamburyer

[light latch]

I think it's closer to 4-5

[barren roost]

well yes, as shown by the screenshots and demo we have

[stoic jacinth]

It's about 3 1/2 now

[young walrus]

This is like saying you can have the option to beat the fuck out of the Grubfather after saving all his kids

[stoic jacinth]

SS development began after HK's release in 2017. Date they gave was febuary 24th iirc

[young walrus]

After they gave you probably everything they had

[mortal grove]

Kill the fleafather for he is the father figure of the fleas

[signal crag]

it probably wasn't full active development, they still had to split work for the Content Packs

[young walrus]

That doesn’t seem logical

[mortal grove]

spill his blood

[stoic jacinth]

They apparently rushed out godmaster, which would explain sly's hitboxes

so it started around that date anyways

[fiery coral]

and the entirety of AbsRad

[stoic jacinth]

yeah it's a good dlc but it was very rushed

hoping we have a godmaster clone in SS but i think mossbag deconfirmed that off of talking with team cherry

[signal crag]

Graig mentioned that, right?

[stoic jacinth]

Yes

[mortal grove]

i hate sly hitbox

[stoic jacinth]

it's a single move

[signal crag]

maybe that's also a reason why the whole "Glorifying Charms" mechanic was cut

[mortal grove]

yes but i was on ascended sly on 4 masks close to phase 2 and that stupid great slash hitbox killed me

[stoic jacinth]

the hitbox oddities are completely vertical, moving to the side instead works

[signal crag]

can confirm

[stoic jacinth]

ah

[signal crag]

wasn't more like "don't expect another godhome"?

[stoic jacinth]

yeah i think that was the message. I'm not sure though, i can't find it

[signal crag]

oh, thanks

[stoic jacinth]

thank you

Honestly rematching in the HoG is less difficult but it's still much, much better than nothing

[signal crag]

i mean,
just a whole refined game it's probably more than enough for me
but just a way to refight bosses would still be great

[stoic jacinth]

i remember loving hornet in HK and replaying the game multiple times just to re-experience that, i think i'd have a similar feeling if it was the same for SS

[vivid belfry]

especially considering SS boss quality is looking to top the already great HK boss quality

[stoic jacinth]

Yeah hunter queen carmelita specifically for me looks incredible

[vivid belfry]

Markoth is the worst boss in HK and still better than like half the bosses in super metroid

[signal crag]

lmao

[vivid belfry]

Markoth is in my top 60 HK bosses

[signal crag]

isn't Vengenfly king the worst one?

[vivid belfry]

vengefly king is boring but inoffensive

Markoth is boring at best and actively frustrating at worst

[signal crag]

technically a boss based on godmaster
a bit silly if you ask me, but still

[stoic jacinth]

All the bosses are much faster, and considering that the overworld enemies are confirmed to deal 2 masks more often, bosses may also do that. boss design for SS is looking up in terms of having to truly master the fight to beat it, which i can't wait for

[vivid belfry]

VK is profoundly hurt by all bindings though

[signal crag]

P5 all bindings start it's soo annoying

[stoic jacinth]

also i can't be the only one who noticed both bosses in the early game that were showed had benches right next to their rooms

that might be a motif through the game but i hope it's downplayed in the late game a bit

nothing on hive knight levels but maybe lost kin

[vivid belfry]

what I really like about 2 mask damage, at least from what we've seen in the deep docks demo, is that it's reserved for attacks and obstacles that are easier to avoid than the 1 mask damage

[mortal grove]

they did markoth dirty