sk-discussion

[silver oak]

First teaser would be early 2014 right

[stark prism]

yes

[silver oak]

That’s considerably more time than mid 2015

Oh late 2014

One sec

[stark prism]

i compared the upload dates from the team cherry youtube channel

[pallid flare]

we're like a full year and a half away if they're actually comparable

[stark prism]

i think the silksong e3 gameplay could be considered a more advanced equivalent to the beta released to streamers
at least it had menus programmed in

[silver oak]

I would count the start of development to be April 25, 2014

aka The day Ludum Dare 29 started

[stark prism]

i would rather count it based on publicly available gameplay footage

[silver oak]

But if we did that, the only way to compare wills be to know the exact day silksong started development as well

So yeah, let’s go with 1396 days

That’s actually kinda eye opening

Realistically we still have a lot of time until silksong releases

[viral pivot]

realistic but sad

[nimble radish]

no silksong

[silver oak]

And honestly, I don’t care much about when the game releases, as long as TC doesn’t forget about us and remembers to give us news occasionally

[coarse leaf]

🇧 🇦 🇧

[silver oak]

Speculating is half the fun for me

[stark prism]

i don't think it's possible to calculate when the news will appear doe

[coarse leaf]

🇳 🇴 🇸 🇮 🇱 🇰 🇸 🇴 🇳 🇬

[stark prism]

i wonder if blogposts will start getting posted agian in like 2022

[coarse leaf]

maybe

[nimble steppe]

We can hope

[stark prism]

that would be pretty cool i think\

[signal crag]

if they decide to post more often the closer they got to release, then maybe

but i wonder if they will still go with that plan, or they are too scared of the fans by this point

[stark prism]

also is it true that silksong had 151 enemies back in 2019?

[coarse leaf]

leaving us with no news did actually work

[stark prism]

was it a lie made by team cherry to make the game seem more complete?

[signal crag]

165*

uhm....is that a s/ ?

[stark prism]

or is the scope of silksong absolutely incomprehensible

[coarse leaf]

why would they bluff? Team Cherry are smart enough to know that that would screw them up

bluffing how much you've done is a recipe for demise

[signal crag]

they don't have a good reason to do that, at all

[pallid flare]

yeah lying is the worst strategy possible

[umbral gazelle]

fallout 76 and no mans sky proves that

[cerulean sable]

cant promise a scope if they dont talk a lot about it in the first place

[signal crag]

so you're telling me they don't communicate often, but when they do....it's for a lie? what?

[stark prism]

i am honestly not sure

[umbral gazelle]

doesn't tc finish stuff linearly

[signal crag]

maybe it was for HK, but it's different for SS?

[stark prism]

that's definitely possible

[umbral gazelle]

idk why they would change that

[signal crag]

not sure what's more efficient

[stark prism]

it seems like silksong will not have any post launch free dlcs
since all of it will probably be included in the base game

[coarse leaf]

less than HK anyway

[stark prism]

like in total hollow knight has 164 journal entries with all the dlcs added
so silksong having 165 in super early development seems kinda strange

[signal crag]

nah, TC works just that much apparently, they just can't stop adding stuff

[coarse leaf]

168 no?

[stark prism]

i skipped the non enemy ones

[coarse leaf]

160 count for hunters mark, then zotelings, and then the challenge entries

[signal crag]

i wonder if Leth sometimes reminds them that they can work on other games if they have too many ideas

[coarse leaf]

probably

[signal crag]

probably only counting the enemies, since they are the ones that require the most work usually (animations, AIs, placement, etc.)

[stark prism]

can someone compare the enemy density from the deep docks and the moss grotto to areas in a similar point of progression or should i do a haphazard job at it myself?

[silver oak]

I don’t think the demo would be good for that

[coarse leaf]

I'd do it if I wasnt in a class

[stark prism]

swag

[signal crag]

we don't know at what point in progression Deep Docks is

[silver oak]

Even in the trailer there’s a shot of moss grotto that shows miss enemies than in the demo

[signal crag]

also i'm not sure what's the point of that

[stark prism]

i would say similarl to mantis village or fungal wastes

[silver oak]

I think the best guess is the third area

[stark prism]

i assume that the run and dash are the second ability you get

since depriving the player of it for longer than that is just cruel

[silver oak]

I’m pretty sure it’s its own area considering the title screen

[coarse leaf]

its hollow knight content, the third area could also be the last area you have to go to for all we know

[silver oak]

What

[stark prism]

well the game was pretty linear in terms of area progression until you got the mantis claw

[coarse leaf]

I worded it badly, I mean the game is probably pretty non-linear

[silver oak]

I would bet it also follows a mostly linear path for the first few areas

[coarse leaf]

But we dont know if deep docks is one of those areas

[signal crag]

until you get more movement ability, there's probably a more "intended path" at least for the beginning

[stark prism]

deep docks seem pretty important since you fight lace there and ring the songshrine bell
at least both in the demo and trailer

[silver oak]

There’s a shot in the trailer that shows a bone forest/deep docks transition

Does someone have it, I’m on phone

[stark prism]

yeah with a that bronze door near that pool of lava

[coarse leaf]

good point, but we dont know if forest of bones is linear. it looks like we can fight the ants in it so it might lead to two areas

that door looks like it leads to the area with the kratis cosplayer

[stark prism]

i mean it could also be a city for all i know

[coarse leaf]

I think forest of bones is going to be where Silksong branches off rather than Hollow Knights city of tears

[stark prism]

oy i was pretty sure it branched off in the fungal wastes

you don't got to visit the left half of the city of tears to get a mandatory upgrade or nothin

[coarse leaf]

the bell city looks like silksong's equivalent to the city of tears

[silver oak]

That seems verrry early game

Remember FoB is the second area

This is confirmed

[coarse leaf]

The Forest of Bones was going to be pretty big when it was in HK

[stark prism]

i mean it could also be the first area right?

[coarse leaf]

aren't deep docks the second area

[stark prism]

the moss grotto and bonebottom could as well just be the kings pass and dirtmouth

and the rest of the moss grotto could only be accessible later game

[coarse leaf]

I think Silksong is going to start off like MG > FoB > Ant City/Tribe > DD/other area

[coarse leaf]

doesn't make sense considering the ascending theme of the game

[stark prism]

well you sometimes gotta descend to ascend

[pallid flare]

the top isn't the end goal

[manic zenith]

Treehouse ladies confirmed that Deep Docks is still pretty early game I think

[pallid flare]

you gotta reach the citadel first and then we do something else

[coarse leaf]

you mean the same people who said the game was coming soon

coming soon

[manic zenith]

thats the only thing they were wrong, Katie or whoever her name was told us other bunch of information

like about fleas, or Churchkeeper

[silver oak]

Wait sorry wrong reply

[manic zenith]

top is the end goal, at least for now. In edge magazine it was said that you reach the citadel, and then reach the top of citadel

[stark prism]

i wonder how varied the citadel will be

[signal crag]

Which could be the very end of the game

[silver oak]

Well it’s not in HK

[coarse leaf]

I doubt getting to the top of the Citadel is going to be just walking up there

I don't know about post citadel stuff but the majority of the game is going upwards. deep docks is an area where the gathered resources to send further up, meaning it has to be one of the earliest areas, probably the second

I'd reckon you get to the Citadel, and then your main mission is to find out how to get to the top, which I doubt itll be easy. Then something something happens and bam that's the end goal

[signal crag]

if we start with the assumption that there are not many areas below the moss grotto level, then yeah, seems reasonable

[silver oak]

What they implied is that the citadel itself will be a journey as well

My guess is that you won’t be able to do the whole citadel in one trip

[stark prism]

i am pretty sure that the forest of bones could have also been a second area candidate
since the early hk versions had like four areas, three excluding the crossroads
each areas difficulty was supposed to gauge the order of progression

[coarse leaf]

exactly

[silver oak]

Or at least not if you don’t have the right stuff

[heady sandal]

Yea like getting to Citadel is half the journey and finding out the truth about the Citadel is the other half

[manic zenith]

forest of bones is probably second, since the town that is most likely bonebottom slowly fades if you go right in non-moss and more lava and bones

[coarse leaf]

forest of bones was removed pretty deep into HK development, on a map you can see its where Deepnest and ancient Basin are iirc

[signal crag]

maybe something about that was mentioned in EDGE? from moss grotto to forest of bones?

[coarse leaf]

they said reaching the top of the citadel is ONE of the things that could be the goal once you get there. That's not confirmed to be the case, just an example

I'll be back

[cursive jetty]

I imagine once you enter the citadel it'll be like "the road of no return", meaning you can't return to other areas or leave until you reach the top

[stark prism]

it was also at one point supposed to be where crystal peak is currently

[signal crag]

maybe for a ""true ending"", it could

[stark prism]

forest of bones ancient city and fungus

[coarse leaf]

now that sounds probable

[stark prism]

i wonder if the beta city of tears got repurposed to be the barnacle port area

[coarse leaf]

it's probable they're going to pull a celeste on us and throw us back down to an area deeper than the opening one

[cursive jetty]

Maybe the citadel is like a small boss rush tower, but with a little platforming between the bosses as well. That could be a good reason why SS won't have a boss rush mode

[manic zenith]

oh hey the abyss

[coarse leaf]

I'm guessing we enter the citadel via elevator lace is protecting in her second fight

[tired sparrow]

Artorias just jumps out and kills everyone

[manic zenith]

I remember how I was arguing what is citadel and what is gilded city, but now I think that any gilded city-stuff that was shown is probably the citadel(except bell city, which seems to be separated)

[signal crag]

bell city definitely looks like a different place

[coarse leaf]

some lazy speculation map

[signal crag]

that's the laziest fake SS map i ever seen, nice

[viral pivot]

XD

[silver oak]

Where is bell town

[coarse leaf]

I forgot a few places

lemme change it a little I'll be back

[silver oak]

I forgor

[signal crag]

"deep sea thing"
...Subnautica?

[silver oak]

The barnacle area methinks

[fiery coral]

Silknautica

[manic zenith]

oh no, seaspiders

[signal crag]

alright, there's at least one that's likely wrong

[manic zenith]

bell town seems to be in greymoor

[silver oak]

lol that was quick

[signal crag]

"dark flower area with lace" is definitely more closer to the Citadel, or at the very least the gilded city

because of the pipes in the background

[silver oak]

I think it’s on the edge of greymoor, between it and another area

[coarse leaf]

ok

[manic zenith]

yeah

[coarse leaf]

I'll change it again

golded city too: electrk bogalo

[sterile sleet]

Can't wait to explore "Deep Sea Thing."

[digital junco]

am i the only one who laughed at Hornets "Garama" fail

"GaramAgH"

[silver oak]

Imagine walking in to this massive atmospheric cavern and the title card proclaims in huge letters “some area“

[digital junco]

cant wait to hear the music for some area

And also Theatre Where Trobbio Is

[digital junco]

Scrolling back and forth to see the difference and suddenly

[coarse leaf]

team Cherry hire me

[odd spoke]

Did someone say spider

[coarse leaf]

yes

[serene jewel]

Hey team cherry I'd like one job please remote

[trim estuary]

You want the remote to the release button? No

[obtuse glacier]

Hello ss-discussion

[coarse leaf]

Hello

[obtuse glacier]

I only know about trobbio because of the server emote and i dont think i want to meet them

[coarse leaf]

trobbio orgasmsm?

[obtuse glacier]

No.

[coarse leaf]

that's what the emote is called

trobbiogasm

[serene jewel]

A remote job, so I don't gotta go to austria

[coarse leaf]

Where’s Snow Monastery

[coarse leaf]

source

[trim estuary]

Austria?

[coarse leaf]

A vision in my dreams...

[trim estuary]

Source: dude trust me

[coarse leaf]

where snow monastery

[languid linden]

Hmm, yeah seems about right. After all, Grover saw the November 19th release date in his dre...oh wait

Pretty sure he specified that it was November 19th 2020

[pallid flare]

everyone makes mistakes

[languid linden]

Before 8 PM (?) CST

Might be misremembering the time though

[languid linden]

Nevermind it was just an early morning thing

[plain prism]

Ñ

[coarse leaf]

Big difference: I’m Giant Enemy Fool

[vivid belfry]

This never happened

I always said losing my name would be temporary

The lore was that Jarilliam Villson gave me a vision of the release date on steam and it said November 19th

[livid oracle]

did that magazine come out yet

[coarse leaf]

it's coming out at the end of july I think

[languid linden]

It is the end of july though

[velvet ruin]

They're printing the copies

They said they should be done this week

[coarse leaf]

pog

[languid linden]

This week is also almost done :justmfw:

[velvet ruin]

So next week we'll probably have the mag

[coarse leaf]

a week late but nice

[velvet ruin]

At least it's just a week late and not Soon™

[coarse leaf]

Silksong The Sooncoming

[timid thicket]

when will silksong come?

[dry edge]

hollow knight Silksong will be released in 20-.......

[timid thicket]

Is there a release date for it?

[dry edge]

HAHAHAHHA

[languid linden]

No

[dry edge]

funny

[vivid belfry]

Silksong comes out when I say so, and right now I DON'T say so

[silver oak]

Are you so sure about that

[coarse leaf]

I’m the real Grover, except without the “can’t predict release dates” part.

The REAL date is February. 24th. 2022.

[stark prism]

impossible

[coarse leaf]

If I’m wrong, I am no longer Eternal

[stark prism]

the earliest it could possibly release is april 2022

you should go drink a dried piece of toast with that mindset

[coarse leaf]

🍿

at least we know it's in the 21st century

[neon basin]

I found the answere

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHhDybZgP6U

[silver oak]

I’m real Grover, yes I’m the real Grover

[stark prism]

ok i know that this is fake,
the first thing in this video is anime

[coarse leaf]

Anime = Always incorrect
GEF = Always correct

[stark prism]

anime picture makes me automatically distrust the person using them

[vivid belfry]

This is gonna turn into last year's April fools again

[coarse leaf]

Don’t do anime kids, do GEF instea- wait

[vivid belfry]

Where everyone was grover

[silver oak]

Super Silksong Ultimate

Everyone is Grover

[stark prism]

BLASPHEMY

[vivid belfry]

BLASPHEMY AGAINST THE HOLY SPIRIT

DON'T BE GREEDY, FOR A GREEDY PERSON IS AN IDOLATOR

[signal crag]

[cerulean sable]

this is the part where a cutscene starts and i drop dramatically from the ceiling

[silver oak]

TTACCO DROPS IN!

[coarse leaf]

Yeah, but like the Eternal Ordeal opening. And you go splat.

And you helplessly yell.

[stark prism]

i hope the true final boss of silksong no lore significance isn't even a bug and is a generic clay golem from jewish folklore.

[silver oak]

Gelatinous cube

[languid linden]

If the final boss of silksong has no lore significance I will cry

[coarse leaf]

enemy spider*

[silver oak]

I can’t wait to finish silksong, go on to discord to talk about it, and get spoiled on the true final boss I haven’t found yet within 5 seconds

[stark prism]

nono you see the spider thing is too predictable that is why the generic clay golem makes more sense, it's subversive and unexpected and shit so that means it's good

[coarse leaf]

Fine. Giant enemy fool, take it or leave it.

[winter cypress]

if sherma is a pilgrim and all pilgrims meet the same fate then sherma might fucking die

[stark prism]

like everybody expects the final boss to have lore significance but we are forgetting that silksong is a subversion of hollow knight

[pallid flare]

that's awesome

[languid linden]

Why do people hate sherma so much

[winter cypress]

i see two types of people

[vivid belfry]

Defensive mechanism from myla

[winter cypress]

the people that love sherma and the people that hate him

[coarse leaf]

[stark prism]

cause the little shit is gonna betray you at some point

[silver oak]

I wish we had threads here because I would totally start one called Fuck-Sherma

[vivid belfry]

They pretend not to care so they can't get hurt again

[languid linden]

Oh yeah that's fair

[pallid flare]

myla totally deserved to die

[languid linden]

For now I like Sherma. If he attacks me at some point, I will kill him just like I killed Myla

[stark prism]

sherma being zote but not narcissistic is boring
he's gonna start wearing white robes and attacking hornet at some point just for being a spider

[silver oak]

THAT would be a cool-ass plot twist

[winter cypress]

oh i think he will meet an end like myla actually

[silver oak]

I think he’s gonna be a much more central character than Myla

[hollow terrace]

@stark prism why the israel flag?

[winter cypress]

cause if the puppeteer theory holds out then he might enter the puppeteers control and join the cult

[stark prism]

so somebody would ask this question

how many elder C clones are there
discord nitro was a mistake

[coarse leaf]

...

[hollow terrace]

don't continue this bit then

[stark prism]

i wasn't planning to tbh

[coarse leaf]

[signal crag]

Not.
Epic.

[coarse leaf]

So...

[fiery coral]

who created ElderHorror, I just want to have a word

[coarse leaf]

😳

[coarse leaf]

I didnt make it, I only stole it from the person who made it

[fiery coral]

I hate it

[stark prism]

swag

[languid linden]

There are elders for every letter

[vivid belfry]

Elderbug when you spam the lightswitch

[coarse leaf]

elderbug when

when Elderbug

elderbug hrorr

[fiery coral]

smile grows wider every time the lights come back on

excuse me what

[signal crag]

uhhhhh

[fiery coral]

you know what, let's move on

Tools! They're cool

[stark prism]

hollow knight had alien spaceships in it that means that silksong will also have aliens in it

[fiery coral]

English only, please

[coarse leaf]

No matter what you do or say, you can’t run away from the

elderbug two

🧑‍🦱 elderbug

[pallid flare]

what's up with this chat all of a sudden

[coarse leaf]

subversion of expectations

[stark prism]

aliens are from space and other planets and shit (eg grimm and the godseekers), so that means that silksong will have mole people in it

yeah the mole people are the final boss

[coarse leaf]

To the older members of this chat, let me see if you remember this bit of nostalgia not too long ago:

🍞🔥🧀

[signal crag]

...steven universe?

[silver oak]

Define “not too long ago”

[pallid flare]

yeah i dont recognise that

[silver oak]

If it’s older than 8 months I won’t know it

[coarse leaf]

Hmmm. When did I start using that emote combo? Probably a year from now?

[stark prism]

and i don't remember more than half the things i say here

[silver oak]

Wow it’s already been like 8 months since I started being active here

[stark prism]

so it's definitely possible that i gave the same release date prediction on three separate occasions

[coarse leaf]

silksong releases in 2012

[silver oak]

The sad thing is the first month I was here was by far the most activity I’ve seen in this chat

December had both the nuke and edge

[coarse leaf]

nuke?

what did we nuke

[silver oak]

You don’t want to know

[pallid flare]

the nuke

[silver oak]

You weren’t there for the original one, right pyro?

[coarse leaf]

the nuke?

[silver oak]

You joined in March iirc

[coarse leaf]

what was the nuke pls tell me

[pallid flare]

when was that again

[silver oak]

December 15th

[pallid flare]

I was here around EDGE, left shortly after and then came back

[silver oak]

I remember it so well

[pallid flare]

yeah I think that I was asleep when the nuke happened

[coarse leaf]

Hah! I was banned before and after the nuke happened!

[pallid flare]

[coarse leaf]

I asked to be banned

I didn’t do anything wrong specifically

[silver oak]

Right I remember that

[pallid flare]

that was so long ago

[silver oak]

https://youtu.be/cvkyWxrpa74

It’s better to show you

[pallid flare]

that was such a mess

[languid linden]

I remember both nukes

I have a really bad edited version of the second one

[cerulean sable]

Knightmere was legit fucking losing it

[languid linden]

It doesn't show the whole thing though

[cerulean sable]

he was essentially panicking in staff chat

[silver oak]

I can only imagine

[pallid flare]

that doesn't sound all that pleasant

[cerulean sable]

akin to pressing every single button on an interface and smashing the Emergency Button

[silver oak]

The amount of mod pings

[pallid flare]

emergency meeting

[fiery coral]

I remember ins0m posting a screenshot of 58 or something pings in #sk-discussion alone

[pallid flare]

what were you doing before that was going down?

[silver oak]

Unique wasn’t a mod then iirc

[fiery coral]

Me? I (a) wasn't a mod, and (b) was asleep

[pallid flare]

little did they know that they'd get edge in a few days...

[fiery coral]

Which is probably going to happen for several other events as well because I live halfway across the world from the majority of the server

[silver oak]

Edge was a lot better

[pallid flare]

I think i was asleep aswell

[silver oak]

Or maybe I was just asleep for the worst part

[pallid flare]

I wish i was there

it's like looking at a train wreck, it's awful but you can't take your eyes off it

[silver oak]

Are you legally/morally allowed to show these

[hollow terrace]

no

[cerulean sable]

its been way way long

even if im allowed to i wont really go through the effort of finding them

[glossy gazelle]

I was just watching that unfold and not commenting

Quite literally the worst that this server has been outside the meme channel that I’ve seen

[cerulean sable]

then you have them in the subreddit claiming were all toxic\

and that we hate TC

despite the fact those guys who complained about TC were randos who just vented on this server

then never posted here again

[pallid flare]

that is so annoying

[cerulean sable]

i know that you know what im talking about pyro

[silver oak]

A huge amount of the people who were participating in the nuke were people who had joined the server for the direct and never chatted after that

[cerulean sable]

yeah

despite the echo chamber majority us being "TC can take their time"

but yeah that was a shitshow

but hey at least we now have slow mode control

:)

[pallid flare]

:)

[silver oak]

One good thing came out of it at least

[devout vessel]

Ofc it was people who came from the direct
Holy shit I just read that chat and

[coarse leaf]

slow mode pog

[stark prism]

is hornet actually a spider?

like if you think about it hornet must be hiding some important truth under that mask.

[languid linden]

half-spider half-wyrm, yes

[stark prism]

no

[languid linden]

That's just her face

[stark prism]

Hornet is actually a ||silk controlling shape shifting lizard||

like if you|| don't|| think about it it makes perfect sense

[devout vessel]

Makes sense

[stark prism]

exactly

and what if the title silksong is actually an acronym?

[analog forge]

what acronym could it possibly be?

[cerulean sable]

Hollow Knight Silksong: Silkstended Edition

[pallid flare]

Prepare to silk edition

[stark prism]

maybe if you guess the correct one team cherry will release the game in it's current probably unfinished state
who knows

[fiery coral]

Scholar of the First Spool

[analog forge]

Silencing Interns Listening to Karmic Simulations Of Near Game

"the silence of the interns" is a game i'd play ngl

plug leaks in the corporate structure with a bit of pew pew

[fiery coral]

the story of an intern too shy to speak up or interact at all, so he just keeps his head down and never looks out of his cubicle

[analog forge]

noooo, my poor heart couldnt take it

[nimble pebble]

[pallid flare]

he wide

[warm willow]

That sounds like a cool book title or something.

[nimble pebble]

Sounds like a SS boss

If it were named like Fromsoft games name their bosses

[sacred stratus]

why does every fromsoft boss can literally the final boss of any other game with the name and music and backstory?

[chilly nexus]

Silksong: The Old Weavers

[cedar sedge]

something new about silksong, rumors, hints, something

[pallid flare]

silksong will definitely come out someday

that's all i have

[sacred stratus]

Silksong isn't real

now laugh

[floral kindle]

Ha

[pallid flare]

ok guys, get this

silknever

[vivid belfry]

Every day I get closer to becoming a real life marionette

[severe skiff]

Silkalways

[chilly nexus]

Silk-||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RWfSUWVP2I||

[cedar sedge]

lfg

[vivid belfry]

My bones stiffen and my muscles become thinner every time I see joking about joking about joking about silksong not coming out

[pallid flare]

looking for group?

[manic zenith]

a little bit more and gonna play silksong in your coffin

[vivid belfry]

Awww yeah baby gimme that VR ouji board setup 😎

[chilly nexus]

is that cuz you sit down to go on your laptop to check them and atrophy a lil each time? it might be a sitting thing vs a... silknever ... thing

[pallid flare]

whats a luigi board

[vivid belfry]

I do my best to exercise every day to combat being perpetually online

It's just an emotional reaction

I am being viciously and repeatedly cursed by the funny

[pallid flare]

smae

[edgy trail]

have you guys ever payed attention to the jingle that plays when you defeat a boss? you can hear it in the treehouse gameplay at https://youtu.be/Y8lvHT_IQbM?t=382 and https://youtu.be/Y8lvHT_IQbM?t=1088

[stark prism]

yeah what about it? it it some universal musical motif symbolising death?

[warm bone]

cool victory theme

[severe skiff]

Did you mean to post it twice? Pr am I missing something

[pallid flare]

youre missing something

[stark prism]

2 timestamps

[vivid belfry]

Extremely foreboding victory theme

[warm bone]

its two different instences

[vivid belfry]

Dies Irae

[burnt topaz]

isnt it just like the end of the track false knight?

https://youtu.be/oSvd8uS_XAc?t=172

just more silksongy

[sacred stratus]

kinda

[vivid belfry]

Yeah it's actually a leitmotif

The boss defeat music in HK doesn't share a melody with anything

[pallid flare]

nah it's quite different imo

[sacred stratus]

yeah you can already hear some leitmotifs in the music

[burnt topaz]

not in how it sounds, in its use

[vivid belfry]

In silksong it's the main theme

[shy stirrup]

Do you guys think the game it self is finished? And that Tc is just working on stuff like polish now

[sacred stratus]

I kinda likes to end of bossfight music in HK

[stark prism]

no

[sacred stratus]

hard to tell since Leth makes it seem like they're working ssuper hard on polishing the game so they may have already finished the content but you can never know with TC and Leth

[pallid flare]

hehe, ssuper hard

[edgy trail]

well, I don't think a game is really finished if it isn't polished, since its hard to define what even is polish

[sacred stratus]

well something is polish if it originates in Poland

[stark prism]

i wonder if silksong will have a better ost than witcher 1

the answer is obviously no

[sacred stratus]

I wonder if Christopher Larkin will be able to create a better soundtrack than HK and more importantly: more epic than Fromsoft

[still wren]

i wonder if i even get to see silksong in my life

[vivid belfry]

I have never heard anybody talk about Witcher osts

[sacred stratus]

I have never heard anybody talking about any other game in the witcher series aside from 3

[stark prism]

joseph anderson talked about the first two witcher games for probably more than 11 hours in two videos

[sacred stratus]

who is that?

[edgy trail]

yep thats the only person I've ever seen talk about the first witchers

[sacred stratus]

the longest video I ever watched was 10 days long

[burnt topaz]

what

[stark prism]

why did you watch it

[sacred stratus]

I only watched a few hours of it

[burnt topaz]

what video was it even

[stark prism]

what was so interesting about it
was is a POLTEL cam live recording of some random rooftops in a most likely Polish city?

[sacred stratus]

it was someone that literally edited together all the streams he did while beating HK

[stark prism]

i don't even fully understand what the POLTEL cam was or why it dissapeared

[burnt topaz]

he beat it in 240 hours?

[sacred stratus]

no sorry my bad

[burnt topaz]

was gonna say, thats a little long

[sacred stratus]

it was I think a day and a half long I think

I got the numbers messed up

[burnt topaz]

just a little messed up haha

[sacred stratus]

my head is messed up after doing the most disgusting exam ever for 3 hours

[burnt topaz]

Hope you're getting some well deserved rest my guy

[sacred stratus]

no bcs tomorrow I gotta start studying for 3 different exams that are one day apart from each other

[burnt topaz]

d'aah, GL with your exams

?sspsa

[thin zephyr]

Reminder: The latest news for both Hollow Knight and Silksong is in #hk-announcements.
Check the pinned messages for more information, including a FAQ.

[pallid flare]

this reminds me of that video i wanted to watch

it's like 3 hours long

[signal crag]

any interesting discussions going on here?

[pallid flare]

we talked about something earlier

but i forgot about what it was

[stark prism]

becoming blind or deaf a day before silksong releases sure would suck

becoming blind or deaf sucks in general tbh

[ocean mulch]

Look at the platform Hornet is jumping off from. There's a plant in black. It's form the moss grotto.

After two years and four months I noticed this

[vivid belfry]

There are underwater plants too

[pallid flare]

that's how ari does plants

[ocean mulch]

Grover let me have this moment

[vivid belfry]

Hey you should play subnautica

[ocean mulch]

I did it was so epic

Got it for free on epic a while ago

[vivid belfry]

Nice

[sacred stratus]

nice prolly should have taken notice

[pallid flare]

a while ago was like 3 years ago

[sacred stratus]

oh

[pallid flare]

unless they did it again

[ocean mulch]

Also there's a coral with a purple outline it's probably like a plant as in breakable thingy

[sacred stratus]

the only reason so many ppl use Epic is for the free games

[ocean mulch]

Imagine in the final build those moss plants are replaced by black coral assets

[sacred stratus]

anyways... after thinking about it... having Hornet's theme in SS would be so badass

[cloud pike]

I hope the final boss of silksong has the same emotional impact as THK

[blissful valve]

Twist: it's actually just Trobbio

[cloud pike]

Trobbio?

IT WAS ME, DIO

[blissful valve]

(Trobbio is an already revealed boss he seems similar to Zote in his goofiness)

[cloud pike]

ah

[pallid flare]

trobbio my beloved

[pliant jackal]

Silk news?

[pallid flare]

silk no

[edgy trail]

yesterday I dreamed silksong got a release date and a huge release trailer, but reality is often disappointing

[pliant jackal]

Silk sooner or later?

[analog forge]

final boss final phase plays hornet's theme instead tbh

[pallid flare]

keep on sleeping and shut yourself in

[chilly nexus]

this reminded me that i had a dream-ception last night. I had a first dream, then I fell asleep in it and had a dream within it that I was very in control of. Then I got an item, completing my mission in that 2nd dream, and willed myself to wake back up from it. back in the first dream now, i checked my pocket for the item, but didn't have the item so was like "well that was just a dream". and then more things went down in the first dream, and then i physically woke up.

[vivid belfry]

The movie should have been called dreamception

What is a ception? Fuck you figure it out

[buoyant osprey]

I mean yea that's how it went. The ending made it so u couldn't tell if it was dream or reality

[stark prism]

Twist: it doesn't have that or any lore

[cloud pike]

pained noise

[buoyant osprey]

Nah

It's gonna be just as impactful when it comes out in 2070

[analog forge]

the movies title doesnt refer to the act of dreams within dreams, it refers to the actual plot of the movie

aka, planting a seed of thought within their target
Or, in other words, an inception of an idea.

[trim estuary]

true

[vivid belfry]

Yes but people refer to items or concepts containing the same item/concept as "blank-ception," which I was fallaciously attributing as the intent of the filmmakers as a joke

[reef scarab]

I’m playing dead cells and I can tell I won’t be done for a while so silksong don’t release for a bit kay thanks

[analog forge]

wtf selfish

[vivid belfry]

I never did finish dead cells

[pallid flare]

I got to the final level a week ago and then promptly died to the final boss

[reef scarab]

like the final final boss or the final boss?

[chilly nexus]

i was convinced that the first dream was reality, and completely forgot about all the dreams when i woke up today until now

[pallid flare]

uh what

[chilly nexus]

same, I stopped at BC 2

[pallid flare]

pls no spoilers

[reef scarab]

I finished my first run today because of armadillo pack and some crazy ass dps spear and slicer grenade set along with crit double sword

[chilly nexus]

how far into it are you? or is it just like, no spoilers in general cuz you don't have the game but might pick it up

[pallid flare]

^^^^

[stark prism]

the darth maul looking ass?

[narrow lava]

discussing SS hard or hardly discussing ?

[pallid flare]

that guy protected some other guy

[chilly nexus]

so like... the ||king's hand||?

[pallid flare]

yeah sounds about right

[stark prism]

probably

[chilly nexus]

ah nice

[stark prism]

if silksong had a sewer area how could it be made even more disgusting than the royal waterways?

[tall hinge]

they could combine waterways with deepnest

[chilly nexus]

tbh, i'd need to think about that one for a bit. the royal waterways already had poop and vermin

[tall hinge]

to make it more disgusting

[stark prism]

oh and it should also ditch the worm parasity theme

[brisk shale]

Add poop water then boom

[stark prism]

i think a good start would be to make the colour scheme warmer

[vivid belfry]

They could remove dung defender

[chilly nexus]

eugh yes

[vivid belfry]

Waterways are only so spick and span due to his interference

[stark prism]

what would a sewer in pharloom have instead of flukes?

cockroaches?

[vivid belfry]

Shitcrabs

[chilly nexus]

i feel like the pharloom sewer wouldn't be gross in a sewer sense, but gross in a colonized-by-gross-bugs/mini-civilization-going-on way

[tall hinge]

well flukes are made up creatures so they could make up other creatures for a gross area. its not like theyre limited by real life creatures

[stark prism]

i mean flukes are obviously based on parasitic worms and the flukeman from the x files

[chilly nexus]

so kinda like deepnest i guess

but with a clearer central city area

[tall hinge]

yeah i was about to say that

[chilly nexus]

it could be really rusted with bugs crawling out of the cracks in the rust to ambush you

[stark prism]

fluke flatworm

[chilly nexus]

i see that they reproduce aesexually

[stone comet]

what

[ornate beacon]

sanctuary guardian starts playing

[stone comet]

i mean im fascinated but

holy hell thats terrifying. i love it.

[stark prism]

i mean there could be termites lurking in the darkness with hornet having to light dung on fire to repel them to progress through the area

i guess

[vivid belfry]

God tamer

According to the backer who made her

[copper knot]

why do they look fat as fuck

[manic zenith]

#hk-lore message not sure honestly

[nimble pebble]

Apprently TC said she's not a cockroach

[vivid belfry]

War

[livid oracle]

God I hope the SS release date is in this magazine

[coarse leaf]

[signal crag]

[coarse leaf]

[livid oracle]

Like how epic would that be

[coarse leaf]

Wont happen

[livid oracle]

How do you know

[coarse leaf]

[coarse leaf]

I know because I'm a pessimist

[livid oracle]

oooo

[coarse leaf]

Jokes aside the magazine isnt about Silksong as confirmed by them and probably will barely mention it

[manic zenith]

Didnt they say at Twitter that they were asking about interview with Tc around Silksong reveal
So it wont have anything that much

[livid oracle]

Imagine if they don't even mention SS at all

[ocean mulch]

Are you talking about APWOT

[coarse leaf]

yes

[coarse leaf]

keep expectations low, you must

[ocean mulch]

I thought it came out or sth

[coarse leaf]

chat would be more active then

[ocean mulch]

When does it release

[livid oracle]

Lol wait

they did this interview in january?

[pallid flare]

yep

[coarse leaf]

interview coming 2024

[livid oracle]

https://twitter.com/APWOTmag/status/1420679149170139138?s=20

APWOT (@APWOTmag)

Exciting news! All sections of the magazine have been printed, now we need to get them bound and collated, which will take a few days 😊

Likes

116

Twitter · Jul 29, 2021, 9:34 AM

[coarse leaf]

big bois

[livid oracle]

its also phsyical only

[copper knot]

my god thats a lot of papers

[coarse leaf]

chonky

[livid oracle]

so unless someone leaks it online then we'll never know whats in it

[copper knot]

lorax is crying rn

[coarse leaf]

he isnt crying hes dead

[copper knot]

[ocean mulch]

Katamari cover

[pallid flare]

people are gonna leak it

[coarse leaf]

like your mom

[pallid flare]

why'd you do me like this

[coarse leaf]

[lament mauve]

You know, if Silksong is a true sequel, then TC saying all endings are canon is just….thrown out the window.

[coarse leaf]

not really

[lament mauve]

Sealed Sibling.

[signal crag]

Lemme guess....sealed siblings?

Because we already have a solution for that: seal breaking bugs

[coarse leaf]

They are able to break seals

[ocean mulch]

Oh god sealed siblings again

[pallid flare]

those damn seal breaking bugs

[coarse leaf]

The Hollow Knight: They capture Hornet

Sealed Siblings: They break the seal and capture Hornet

Dream No More: They capture Hornet

Both Embrace The Void endings: Shit happens, They capture Hornet

[ocean mulch]

👍

[lament mauve]

:|

Y’all weird.

[ocean mulch]

Hornet boutta get Spoodeenapped

[chilly nexus]

all endings are cannon because every save file is its own timeline SS save files are also their own timelines

[analog forge]

^

[ocean mulch]

Basically whatever you experienced is true for you and makes sense in your playthrough

[chilly nexus]

ye that

[lament mauve]

Well….

[coarse leaf]

People who experienced all of them:

[ocean mulch]

If zote doesn't die, bummer

[lament mauve]

I still want to see Zote again in Silksong.

[pallid flare]

fan service

[lament mauve]

eh, maybe.

[ocean mulch]

That would make the dead zote playthroughs in HK not canon leading to SS

[coarse leaf]

🇭 🇺 🇷 🇷 🇩 🇺 🇷 🇷' 🇸

[signal crag]

If silksong is a sequel, Zote literally can’t appear at all

[lament mauve]

And…why is that?

[coarse leaf]

zote can die

you can abandon him in Deepnest too

[pallid flare]

yeah zote dies

[signal crag]

All “choices” you make in HK are equally valid, but if zote is alive in SS, then that means that ONLY the choice of letting him live is the only correct one

[nimble pebble]

^

[coarse leaf]

Can Grimm reappear actually?

[nimble pebble]

Yes

[coarse leaf]

Nice

[signal crag]

Well....not really, since Pharloom still isn’t dead

[nimble pebble]

Both Grimm Troupe endings end with NH leaving

[coarse leaf]

Can Hornet appear again?

[analog forge]

No

[pallid flare]

that's a bold suggestion

[coarse leaf]

Aww I wish we could see hornet

[analog forge]

Ye, hornets so cool and stuff

She can do frontflips!

*(probably)

[nimble pebble]

Well, yeah but I meant that your choices can both lead to the potentiality of it being possible since both choices could lead to it but as you said Pharloom isn’t dead so probably not

[coarse leaf]

What if Grimm retires

[nimble pebble]

His job is eternal

[signal crag]

Oh well, then in that case yeah

[coarse leaf]

what if he just wants to quit

[nimble pebble]

He can’t

[pallid flare]

can't he just die or something

[coarse leaf]

but like, what if he, just doesn't

[nimble pebble]

Ol’ Nightmare heart has it forced to repeat rituals for all eternity to keep it alive

Though theoretically eventually the NH would run out of dead kingdoms and kingdoms in general and just die

[coarse lily]

are we ever getting any news? 😦

[nimble pebble]

[nimble pebble]

[coarse leaf]

We might get confirmation that it exists when apwot is here

[nimble pebble]

News machine broke come by later

[pallid flare]

what a bad strategy

[coarse leaf]

skill issue

[coarse lily]

ok, gonna cry in the corner now. bye

[nimble pebble]

Indeed it is, NH should find a new one before it’s too late

[pallid flare]

what if they sabotage kingdoms that are already alive to make them unalive

[nimble pebble]

Based strategy

[coarse lily]

even Elden Ring got news. you doubt you could even imagine it.

[coarse leaf]

society

[hollow terrace]

But we don’t mention the year long silence of elden ring news

[nimble pebble]

News gets delayed a day each time a person asks for news

[coarse leaf]

what year long silence of news

[coarse lily]

oh no... it's never coming out then

[lament mauve]

Elden Ring, yo what?

[nimble pebble]

It comes out when people stop giving a shit and stop asking

[coarse leaf]

They never said the release date was delayed

[coarse lily]

you can't delay what doesn't exist

[nimble pebble]

There is no release date to delay

[coarse leaf]

zoteboat

[coarse lily]

SS is just a fever dream

[pallid flare]

damn you're funny

[coarse lily]

Mossbag planted in our heads

[coarse leaf]

damn you're funny mom

[nimble pebble]

Zoteboat is delayed until whenever another HK game is going to be made

Fearless fox is next so who knows when that will be

[coarse leaf]

Fearful Ferret

[coarse lily]

we should be making fake lore just like they did for Elden Ring. That shit was hilarious

[coarse leaf]

greymoor is just discoloured beef

[hollow terrace]

Well let me tell you about a user who made fake silksong screenshots

[coarse lily]

ooh, this sounds cool. where can I see it?

[lament mauve]

whom?

[coarse leaf]

whomever

[hollow terrace]

No one, we’re too lazy to make fake material

[coarse lily]

you lied to me...

[pastel jolt]

any new fan theories about ss

[coarse lily]

I'm so disappointed

[coarse leaf]

[chilly nexus]

yeppers

[pastel jolt]

send

[chilly nexus]

video pending. i've given a few peeps the deets tho

[pastel jolt]

can i have them

[chilly nexus]

I unfortunately have not known you long enough to spoil it pre-release

i've shown only 3 people

[pastel jolt]

oh come on man please ive been waiting for 3 years

[chilly nexus]

if you pinky promise

[pastel jolt]

i promise ill delete the messages after

[chilly nexus]

na you can keep the messages

[coarse leaf]

I promise my pinky

[pastel jolt]

ok

[chilly nexus]

all i ask in return, is feedback so i can make it better 👍 (and that u keep it a secret)

[pastel jolt]

for sure

[coarse leaf]

😳

Guys I still haven’t breathed yet 😎

[chilly nexus]

don't make me kiss you while exhaling

[coarse leaf]

😳

@chilly nexus what leaks do you have

[errant pulsar]

what did i just walk in on-

[coarse leaf]

yo let's calm down now 😳

[coarse leaf]

the french revolution

[coarse leaf]

I’m not breathing until we get ss news 📰

[errant pulsar]

do you happen to be immortal because you'll probably die before then if not

[coarse leaf]

no hes just really good at not breathing

Nah I’ve been going strong for two days now

[carmine coral]

rookie numbers

[coarse leaf]

Fr

[errant pulsar]

wow ok then

[coarse leaf]

academy numbers

I've been holding my breath in before Silksong was even announced

[hidden nacelle]

Given that hornet wields a needle, I think something sewn at a special station out of a large silk reserve might be interesting

Maybe a silk equivalent of the money strings

[chilly nexus]

hornet using her needle as an actual needle would be incredible. I love that

top tier idea

we see her control silk around the weavers in the trailer, but she's just kinda holding the needle and focusing the silk. if there's a small scene in the game where she actually sews something with her needle and silk, that would be so cool

[hardy oasis]

Pls don't make ss a knitting sim

[hidden nacelle]

There are multiple endings of hollow Knight, with wildly different effects, we can assume that the sealed siblings isn't what happened because hornet is alive, but do we know anything about which of the endings will be used?

[hardy oasis]

All endings are canon

[pallid flare]

all endings are canon

[jade canopy]

And all could lead to silksong

[hardy oasis]

If silksong is a sequel and not a prequel then it must follow from sealed siblings, which is possible because in the release trailer we see a small white bug break a seal of binding

[jade canopy]

*it could follow from sealed siblings

[hardy oasis]

Must as in must be able to

[jade canopy]

Uh I didn’t know you could use must that way but sure

[hardy oasis]

I think the ambiguity arises from must follow meaning 'sealed siblings happens then silksong happens' or, as I meant it 'silksong must be able to make sense after sealed siblings'.

It's more to do with the meaning(s) of follow than must in retrospect

[jade canopy]

Hummm
Pull out I’m not a native speaker get out of jail free card

[hidden nacelle]

I think it can be used due to English being weird, but I wouldn't use it in that context either

[vivid belfry]

"silksong must follow sealed siblings" isn't correct but "sealed siblings must precede silksong" is (in this context) (I'm not saying that a timeline has to flow into silksong to be considered canon)

[balmy osprey]

I honestly hope Silksong is somehow a prequel so these endings are never discussed again

[nimble radish]

I hope it's a midquel to fuck with people

[manic zenith]

then silksong's endings will be discussed and how they ties in Hollow Knight

[balmy osprey]

It's clear at the time of inception that they didn't know how big the Hornet DLC would become

[hidden nacelle]

Between greenpath and kingdoms edge?

[manic zenith]

between greenpath and fungal wastes 😎

[vivid belfry]

between hornet 2 and king's brand

[nimble radish]

definitely

[balmy osprey]

So while all endings are canon to Hollow Knight, Silksong may branch from one ending because its effectively impossible to neatly branch from all the Hollow Knight endings

[hidden nacelle]

And hornet picked up the spikeballs during that time

[trim estuary]

🐌

[pallid flare]

between the wyrm collapsing and hornet getting the knight out of there

[formal karma]

Sequels are never as good.... and since we already know Silksonh is better that means it's a prequel

[pallid flare]

the knight actually went into a deep coma, this explains intersequelness

[balmy osprey]

Ah yes, because some random bugs came to Hallownest and managed to free Hornet from the Black Egg before she died.

I believe that is possible.

[pallid flare]

you dont know how random they are

[nimble radish]

some random bugs already kidnapped hornet

[formal karma]

And we don't know she'd die

[vivid belfry]

I'd say it's pretty likely she wouldn't die

[balmy osprey]

She literally says it would drain her

[vivid belfry]

it would be pretty dogshit design if the black egg immediately killed the dreamer it just made

[balmy osprey]

And then she becomes a dreamer

[trim estuary]

Ss is an alternate universe tho

[formal karma]

Drain doesn't mean kill

[balmy osprey]

Either way, she's dead in some regard

[pallid flare]

no

[nimble radish]

aren't we all, these days

[balmy osprey]

Silksong better release next year, I don't think another year of this is possible

[nimble radish]

lmao

[formal karma]

Lol

[pallid flare]

why not

[vivid belfry]

hornet is being constantly drained of energy by the black egg
permanently asleep
hornet is removed from the black egg
AWAKEN

[trim estuary]

Dreamer? More like, awaker

[formal karma]

Well does that mean you die if it does come out next year?

[pallid flare]

lets find out

[vivid belfry]

I think they meant another full year

so the first half of next year is safe

[formal karma]

I mean ot doesn't matter either way

[trim estuary]

Grover is it true that it’s 6:20 pm for you

[vivid belfry]

no

[trim estuary]

I’ve been lied to

[vivid belfry]

why

[trim estuary]

Sí

[formal karma]

People lie for all sorts of reasons

[tribal schooner]

i read this without the background and thought TC confirmed at least another year. i was gonna cry

ok probably not but i would have been disappointed

and able to move on so that would have been good

[pallid flare]

that right there is the duality of man

[vivid belfry]

It would actually be a Chad move of TC to do that when they expect something like 6 more months of development time

[nimble radish]

"at least 1 more year guys"

[vivid belfry]

At worst they can say "we said at least another year, we undershot it" and at best they release it early and say "we did a little trolling"

Regardless we stop release date discussions from being so frequent

[pallid flare]

people would hate them though

[vivid belfry]

People hate them now

[pallid flare]

they would hate them more

[vivid belfry]

Well I doubt it would change anyone's wallets then

[silver oak]

[vivid belfry]

Right now they're getting mad because they think a lack of deconfirmation of news soon means news soon

[tardy orbit]

I think they genuinely won’t know when the game is gonna be finished until like a couple of months before so they can’t just say a super far date and expect it to be even a bit accurate

[silver oak]

Methinks this to be a false statement

[vivid belfry]

So give them that deconfirmation and maybe they'll calm down

[silver oak]

Tbf TC may have just realized that now they have a massive audience, the less news the better

[tribal schooner]

i dont think it would hate them if they said give us a year more. i would actually feel more patience probably. it like the release date arguement once you know how long you have to wait for its not so tough

[pallid flare]

people are impatient af

[silver oak]

And they just wanted to take us off of constant news

Each gap between updates has been longer than the last

The other possibility is that development has been steadily spreading up

And they just have less time to give us info

[tribal schooner]

even if all they said was, at least a year if would be enough to calm me down. kinda like dr jacobi is always saying its the feeling that something is close all the time. the game has looked finished with everything they have showed us and now we feel like we are on the last days of wait. if they said a year i would probaly only jump on chat to see how everyone is doing

[vivid belfry]

I would still be here overanalyzing the demo footage

[tribal schooner]

@vivid belfry so are you grover the youtuber or just similar for the sake of the pfp? maybe thats a stupid question but i had to ask.

[silver oak]

I’ll be mostly watching you make bold claims and occasionally going “yeah”

[orchid gazelle]

I’m glad there isn’t a specific release date just because of the hype

[silver oak]

I don’t think the “game looks finished” thing is a good measure of release date, they probably either only showed the best looking parts or purposely rushing out the parts that look best while spoiling least

[tribal schooner]

i agree, its just a good point. to those who are not paying as much attention you could show them the reveal trailer and tell them its finished and many would likely believe you. you and i know that it may not be close but to the average it looks pretty good already

[silver oak]

This happens a lot in gaming, it’s good publicity to make it seem like you’re game is more finished than it actually is

A lot of AAA demos fall into this problem

[tribal schooner]

TC has done a very good job so it doesnt suprise me the hype is where its at

[nimble pebble]

Not when the demo drops soon before the release

[silver oak]

Remember No Man’s Sky? Its whole thing was procedural generation, but for the reveal trailer they pre-generated a works with the best parts. No one knew that though, so they assumed the game was waaay cooler than it was on release

[tribal schooner]

well TC probably under did it and SS will be better than any of us can expect

[silver oak]

That’s a bad way of thinking

Be optimistic, but not overly enthusiastic

It’s better to be positively surprised than negatively

Considering how much hype SS has it’s probably impossible to be better than we expect

[chilly nexus]

imo everyone's thoughts on the matter are valid. so long as someone isn't being childishly entitled or over bearing with righteousness, your feelings about news and things are perfectly cool

[silver oak]

I mean tbh TC are being really bad developers. They’re completely ignoring their fans and killing hype for the game. If I was then I would be ashamed at their fan relationship.

Is what I would say if I was an idiot

[vivid belfry]

Are you talking about Arlo

[chilly nexus]

If you said you were arlo I would not believe you :p

[vivid belfry]

Good because I'm not

[languid linden]

Who's arlo?

[dreamy zenith]

blue dude

[silver oak]

Muppet game tuber

Wholesome dude

[languid linden]

Watched 40 seconds of one of his videos seems like an alright dude

Because everyone knows 40 seconds is all you need to judge someone

[silver oak]

Yeah he has a contagious personality

[tribal schooner]

yes i think so

[chilly nexus]

arlo seems v nice

[stiff burrow]

I watch Arlo a lot
He is good YTber

[tribal schooner]

he is but i realized that he tried to play hollowknight and he didnt like it. he is one of those guys that stopped before the hornet fight

[vivid belfry]

Actually he stopped at soul master

But hey, his fanbase managed to annoy him into finishing Celeste

[tribal schooner]

oh maybe that was a different video i saw him stop at the first moss warrior that killed him

he is one of few nintendo switch ytubers that doesnt talk about silksong on occasion

[stiff burrow]

I may not watch enough YTbers but I have not seen anyone mention Silksong outside the time it was confirmed to not be at E3

[chilly nexus]

tbh I have been a little surprised by the lack of theory videos being put out since like 2019. (||hopefully I can fill this void if i finish my vid before SS releases ||)

[tribal schooner]

dude im hyped for that video

[chilly nexus]

you're a big part of my motivation to get it done 😅

[tribal schooner]

if it jumpstarts more videos form others it will be awsome. then you will solve the ss drought before the game even releases

[chilly nexus]

that's the dream!

I'd probably even just make follow up vids that comment on the comment section

[midnight bison]

has there been any silksong news lately

sorry to interrupt

[chilly nexus]

newest news is that SS won't be at E3 2021

[midnight bison]

ah ok, thanks

[serene chasm]

also #hk-announcements will have news if there is any

[chilly nexus]

oh hey! remember how I was going off about how mongoose rodeo didn't use dilapidated as a standalone adjective, and instead went "small dilapidated village". well. the kings at TC understood strong adjectives when describing greymoor: "misted fields and dilapidated towers". They didn't go "tall dilapidated towers"

[vivid belfry]

I mean tall tower is redundant, you can have a medium-sized to large village

[chilly nexus]

tall was the first thing i came up with that fit towers, so naturally, it would be a mildly redundant adjective (as it'd've been the most intuitive). you could argue that village implies a degree of smallness, but even if it didn't, and we had no clue what to make of the village's size otherwise, the presence of another, weaker adjective, alongside one like "dilapidated" kills the moment.

"misted fields and dilapidated towers" whisks you away. "small dilapidated village" is a wee bit jarring

[silver oak]

I would be like “wow, overanalyzing much” but that’s literally the only thing we do in this channel

[vivid belfry]

I think that's just because TC prefers minimalism in their prose

[chilly nexus]

i'd call it just proper writing and respecting words with a heavy connotation

[nimble pebble]

Village is just a common term for sub cities within cities in the modern day but back in the day Village was just a synonym for town or city and their size could vary

[vivid belfry]

if you wanted to have both accurate description and impactful, flowery language, you could break it into two sentences tbh

but again, TC likes minimalism

[chilly nexus]

I acknowledged this^ I also understand it's a kickstarter page so don't hold any of this against them, but outside of mixing small and dilapidated, in general, you shouldn't have to ever use weak adjectives like "small". basic attributes like size should be alluded to when you're painting a picture, not given outright (tis bleh)

[analog forge]

When you only have a few words to paint that picture, such adjectives are excellent shorthand and instantly bring to mind the intent

[trim estuary]

Stizzl’s been making theories and has been making them since then (I think)

[chilly nexus]

in that case, i'd omit it outright. "small dilapidated" is jarring. at least, to me it is

[trim estuary]

And other HK focused YT’ers

[chilly nexus]

ah nice!

i normally get SS videos on my feed, those must've slipped the algorithm

[tribal schooner]

has he made anything recently i havent seen a video from him in quite some time but i dont watch his channel very actively

[trim estuary]

Yeah last Friday I think

[chilly nexus]

(does Giant Enemy Fool know what you're up to 👀 )

[trim estuary]

Wdym

[chilly nexus]

i'm just playing cuz your nickname and dp are his negatives. i'm sure you're up to nothing

[trim estuary]

I’m working on my theory for Silksong February 2022

[serene chasm]

The magic 8 ball confirmed it already

[nimble pebble]

SS sometime between now and DEC 2023

[tribal schooner]

well if the magic 8 ball says so

[chilly nexus]

what I'm wondering, is where is that cuphead dlc

[serene chasm]

SS sometime between now and the heat death of the universe

[trim estuary]

In development (probably)

[tribal schooner]

wouldnt the heat death just be the restart of the universe since a big bang of energy is apparently what started the universe in the first place?

[serene chasm]

I bet they will pull a TC and just ake it cup head 2

[chilly nexus]

i feel like after its delay, MDHR just got all those new opportunities like the netflix show and had to put the DLC on hold

[chilly nexus]

tbh i can kinda see this too

unless they really want us to play old bosses as miss chalice

[serene chasm]

You are thinking of the big crunch, where the universe implodes on itself. Heat death is where the universe keeps expanding and matter spreads so thin that stars can't form anymore and eventually they all go out. And then just darkness forever

[elder flicker]

We went from the sequel to a bug game to the death and rebirth of the universe

Fascinating

[tribal schooner]

truely

[trim estuary]

Interesting… very interesting

[serene chasm]

Welcome to ss discussion.

Just be happy Tess isn't here

Or sad because he would probably go into much more and interesting detail

[elder flicker]

At this point anything is interesting enough

Until tc blesses us with ss

[tribal schooner]

unless of course the universe runs on the law of elasticity. which would suggest that energy is at its greatest when the matter is as far away as possible and close as possible therefore the univierse is on this endless cycle of stretching out and snapping back together

[lunar flower]

where siksnog

[serene chasm]

Australia

[trim estuary]

At the ultimate heat death of the universe

[elder flicker]

Yes

[trim estuary]

Same thing

[elder flicker]

What if we reincarnate in another lifetime after the universe restarts

Over and over forever

[serene chasm]

I wannabe a water bear in my next life please

[hidden nacelle]

It'd be pretty hard to unseal the egg with the dreamer in the inside

[elder flicker]

Quite peaceful

[lunar flower]

gonna email team cherry

[serene chasm]

Eerytime someone emails TC about SS it gets delayed by a month

[elder flicker]

No please

[lunar flower]

NO

[vivid belfry]

unless you had some sort of plot device that could break seals without going through their intended unsealing process

unfortunately no such thing exists nor has it been mentioned one million times in this channel

[trim estuary]

Leth showed their email a while back, and ooooh boy it isn’t looking good

[elder flicker]

After: plot armour
We introduce: plot weapon

[elder flicker]

When was that

[serene chasm]

All I remember Leth showing was the classic "did you even test radiant lost kin. .."

[mystic pewter]

february 2022 would be a godsend (it's my birthday)

[chilly nexus]

seems plausible!

[trim estuary]

It would be ||also today’s my birthday||

[mystic pewter]

[chilly nexus]

Happy Birthday!!!

[dreamy zenith]

Happy birthday

[trim estuary]

Thanks

[chilly nexus]

if it's not night and you have a means of doing so, buy yourself a treat

[trim estuary]

I can’t right now

[edgy trail]

wth your birthday is the whole month of february??? that was a long ass labor

[chilly nexus]

i wonder how their horoscope gets read

quick! everyone give me your birth date and time so I can guage our compatibility

[nimble pebble]

My birthday is in 28 days

[chilly nexus]

happy early birthday!

[nimble pebble]

[tribal schooner]

mine is in 20

[chilly nexus]

happy early birthday to you as well! :

[analog forge]

2/20/2001

lots of 2's and 0's

[chilly nexus]

a nice looking date

[tribal schooner]

thanks.... TC please be watching even just news for my birthday would be enough

08-19-1999

almost all nines and ones

[chilly nexus]

ye also a v nice date

mine has no commonalities sadly, except all 3 of the month day and year start with a 1

[tribal schooner]

that person that gets the date 1-23-45 is gonna be so lucky

or even later 1-23-4567!?

[chilly nexus]

2-2-22 would be a nice date to release something

and it happens to be in February cough TC cough

[tribal schooner]

hk released in feubary right?

[cunning geode]

yes

[tribal schooner]

and that would be 3 years almost since ss was revealed

[fallow solar]

Does anyone genuinely believe that Silksong will release this year?

[analog forge]

Its not entirely unlikely

[chilly nexus]

i'm not saying no yet, but i can't imagine where they could announce a 2021 release

[fallow solar]

We got 5 months left of this year

[wheat bluff]

I just want them to give us a relase date, or at least time frame sort of

[analog forge]

The year is still young, friend

[stark nebula]

sislkslskslkson

[fallow solar]

I’m just hoping it’ll release October or December