#sk-discussion
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thats also fair
Still marveled with the art of SS.
Ari is a God among men
what is that smudge just below the movement lines of the boss? maybe a path showing where he jumped?
Yes, it is shown in the trailer in movement.
They prboably won't
there was even a dum.. dum..... dum... dum
i feel like it ties into her original capture
That's THK
Team Cherry clarified that they wanted to make Silksong being friendly to newcomers, so anything related to Hollow Knight would be more a pasing reference or mention rather than big fanservice elements.
i know but why did they set it up as if they will fight. like the music and everything suggests danger or something
but they also said a big part of her journey will be learning about her past and figuring out a way to return.
The part of "figuring out a way to return" doesn't appear in any intervirew.
i agreed with this at first but the thing is that the mood of the music and whole scene suggests otherwise
maybe it was her past and how she was captured or somthing but they suggested it would still tie in to HK to a defree. besides i think their comment on being friendly to new comers is more a connection to a gameplay that would not require knowledge of how to play HK
not really. we dont have any evidence that they even know eachother and both have a history of combat and trauma. maybe they dont fight but i think THK has something to do with Honrnets capture
SS is a standalone game and has no reason to heavily refer to HK
I think is about focusing in the story of the Weavers and Hornet past as in, before the events of HK, so there will not be things like, look, here is the Knight or Grimm.
Hornet and THK do know each other and neither has a reason to fight even if they didn't
Well of course, if it relates to Hornet we'd probably get something on it, most likely in the form of a memory
I think the best ending for hornet would be her not having a reason to return to hallownest
regardless of what happened to it at the end of HK, there's nothing more she can do to protect it
I think most people should think HK and SS stories as being set in the same universe but somewhat selfcontained, rather than a constant self referencial nods to past works like in the MCU. TC also stated all endings are considered canon and let's be honest, it would be kinda of a dick move to make Godmaster the only canon ending when trying to obtained is just super hard for most casual players.
Queen of Pharloom ending 
im getting this game damn it and nobody will stop me
Blasphemous does and it's a metroidvania but I agree probably not in a TC game
(Sorry if long time later replies are annoying I've just been reading back up)
I think it could be incorporated well and from what we've seen would work more for silksong than iit would've in hollow knight (not well)
and im not going to look at the chat because i might die from spoilers
idk enemies die and move so fast that I'm not sure it would translate well
blasphemous is a game where enemies tend to have super long periods where they're not actively attacking you or just really short aggro ranges, which isn't the case in silksong
I think its easier to do something like that in pixel art games, but in the hand drawn style and more "chibi" one in SS rather than the darker style of Blasphemous it wouldn't work so well.
also enemies just don't take very many hits to kill
i dont know why people get hung up on the canon thing cause they said all are equally cannon but they didnt say all endings would lead up to the events of silksong. on ending or two similar endings could lead to silksong while others dont
that is true, but also all endings can lead to silksong 
but i suspect that THK has something to do with hornets capture. so the lack of some endings isnt really and arguement of how canon they are
especially since among all the endings the ones where THK staggers up seems the most open to a continuation of the story
I mean, Dream no More ends with a weakened Hornet mourning the death of the Knight, so that can lead to her capture.
thats true
Also, it seems she was capture what seems to be very end game enemies, so we must asume that they are pretty strong and took her by surprise.
I don't think those guys are endgame really
I mean, knowing these are from the Citadel cast we can asume they know some countermeasures to Silk abilities, that, and maybe they took her by surprise rather than announce "we are going to capture you and take to Pharloom!"
THK who is no longer controlled by rad has a mind and a will and now common sense it has no reason to attack hornet especially in its weakened state and hornet only took a battle stance from being startled but would likely not attack THK since she knows the infection is gone now since she watched it drain, it seeming most logical of the endings to lead into silksong to you doesn't mean there's anything to suggest they'd fight not to mention SS doesn't have to follow any ending and could simply happen, it's a standalone game and most references to HK would be to Hornets past which could very well be things before HK's events
Also the Weavers and possibly the five knights (at least the apart from Ogrim)
Possibly
I didn’t say the fight necessarily just that he is connected to her capture in some way. Maybe he defends her or weakens her or she gets captured defending him. I just think he’s connected
Any news yet
Nope
Sadge 
Any news should be in hk-announcements and also, if there were actual news, the channel would be chaos rather than just retreating to old theories and speculations.
I'm pretty sure it has nothing to do with it and Hornet just leaves and captured somewhere else, no law she has to live the rest of her life in the black egg 
Reminder: The latest news for both Hollow Knight and Silksong is in #hk-announcements.
Check the pinned messages for more information, including a FAQ. 
even dyno is getting tired of saying it
you could be right. i want more about THK and i think it is reasonable plausible that there is a connection there.
I don’t think ss will even hint at any of the endings
It’s either gonna even slightly mention all of them or none of them
It’s supposed to be approachable for new players and likely fit with all of the endings so I really doubt THK is gonna be in it
Still my head cannon is that hornet dies In the black egg so all endings aren’t canon but I’m not Tc
i dont think new friendly really connects to the story side of things. i think that was more in reference to the difficulty stuff
Also, seeing how Silksong will focus on Hornet and the Weavers, I don't think we will get more details regarding the Vessels in general.
i dont think it would be the vessels tho i think it would be specifically THK. the last cutscene in HK is really the only one that suggest the continuation of the story
its the only cliff hanger the only thing not resolved
Why would she? The egg is normally sealed because the dreamers have been made to sleep endlessly, but as far as I know there’s nothing stopping Hornet from waking up and leaving
She says that the egg isn’t made for the likes of her
I personally believe that means it will Drain her life and kill her
I’m talking about sealed siblings btw
that'd be a bad ending though
All endings being canon means all endings are canon, although we don’t see it and probably won’t learn it there’s definitely some way she does get out
I personally still wish Tc would just pick a ending but oh well
Hornet doesn't die in the Black egg and that's confirmed
everything in the ending points to her being dead, or at least trapped forever; there's absolutely zero point in having that ending if she can waltz out of there
If some dumbass vessels can find a way to escape a sealed abyss then Hornet with a mind can find a way to leave an egg
Hornet's pretty weak and drained
just cause they are all canon does not mean that all lead to the events of silksong, and TC never said they would
not in a state to escape and go on further adventures, is my point
the vessels have no abilities and makeshift nails
DEUS EX MACHINAU SEAL BREAKER BUGSS
You know I'm right
My inference is that this text: The path is opened. One way or another an end awaits inside.
I won't be joining you in this. That space is built to sustain your likes. Its bindings would drain me were I to join.
Don't be surprised. I'll not risk my own life in your attempt, though if the moment presents I'll aid as I'm able. Means hornet dies
TC confirmed in an AMA that she doesn't die in the egg though 
Did they?
She's just taking a perma nap
its bindings would drain me were I to join
Casually strolls out regardless
gottem 😎
Didn’t they just confirm that all endings are cannon?
Someone asked if hornet was dead in Sealed Siblings and they said she wasn't
Well I think that’s stupid
she is a beast afterall
So I’m gonna choose to ignore it
It’s pretty vague what all that means though
Ignoring it doesn't change its validity 
Can u tell me which AMA
but then why have that there
what's the point of having an ending like that, if it has no consequences
the one where they said it

I think all endings are cannon but they are alternate timelines
That makes no sense
Why are all endings a 17th century artillery 
Bro it’s 10pm I’m not trying to make sense
They certainly are, yeah; there's no way any two of them can happen simultaneously
Understandable, have a nice day
i was jsut making a joke about her being super awsome and therefore can strutt out of the egg at her leisrue and also the irony that she is the daughter of herra the beast making her at least part beast as well
Being part beast doesn’t make you immune to void
I mean, what else would happen when the knight kills THK instead of dreamnailing them? It could just as easily be there for the purpose of it not being “yeah she fucked out of the egg real fast when she sensed danger”
Hornet doesn't die in any HK endiings is canon fact, though she is in perma sleep mode unless some external means breaks the seal
Pillow are you messing with me or did Tc actually say that hornet doesn’t die
Not messing with you
Hornet doesn’t die in any but the sibling ending tho
Also, the point of all the endings in HK is that the Radiance is stopped, either temporally or permantly, but she and her plague are stopped in some way or another.
Pillow is saying Tc said hornet doesn’t die in sealed siblings
how does that not make sense the fact that there are multiple endings proves there are separate timelines. they are all canon because they all canonically progress the story all are considered equally valid but not considered the same, nor the events that take place after the corresponding endings
like i said just a joke
What should happen is that she either dies, or at least is permanently incapacitated.
Tell me the ending has any impact at all if the player comes to know she can get out and fight normally regardless.
now i need a gif of hornet strutting tho
She sacrifices herself to become a dreamer, look what happened to Herrah, Lurien and Monomon when they were woken up
Yeah. Like dream no more and sealed siblings literally can’t coexist
They must be alternate timelines
Wait why are we talking about this in ss-discussion
Even if we disregard the Reddit AMA for a second the seal wouldn't still be there if she died 
Because it revolves around ss’s endings
I mean the only one that interferes with ss intro is sibling ending
No it doesn't
Ohhhh fair point pillow
Again, as I've said before, I think it was TC's desire to stick to their statement about all endings being canon that brought about the existence of seal breaking bugs; in doing so, though, they render the worst ending for Hornet obsolete
Ok but that still means hornet is permanently trapped.
I require an explanation good sir
Seal Breaker bugs
And I still think hornet would have eventually died
@young walrus
I thought the dreamers had seals that prevented them from waking up
Oh like the ones that broke the citadel seal on Hornet?
ye
Or being hurt
That’s why you can’t just kill them straight up
Thing is though that we don’t know if they’re in Hallownest and we haven’t ever seen any there either
Hornet doesn't have a seal on her to prevent her from waking up the only reason she's even a dreamer is because she's in the egg
…but team cherry said she doesn’t
They aren't in hallownest, however if they came from Pharloom to capture her they could have brought some with them
That’s a good point
Well they said she doesn’t die in the ending
What makes someone a Dreamer by the way 
She could have died after the ending takes place
Is it just someone who sleeps a long while 
Grasping at straws now are we 
Yeah that’s a little farfetched at this point I don’t think they were being vague about that
Hell yeah brother
Ok but we all agree that she is at least permanently trapped right
yes
like, what is in the Black Egg that makes someone a Dreamer should they fall unconscious inside it
me being permanently asleep after I took a nap in this wacky egg I found
Why doesn’t the hollow knight become his own seal
Truly a conundrum
I’m sure he slept sometimes
Now that I think abt it, was there some sort of ritual that was to be performed to become a dreamers cuz they have a seal of binding that protects them from physical damage
The knight canonically takes naps
Honestly when they say all endings are canon I don’t think it’s like “they all happen but also Silksong sometimes doesn’t”
The Knight canonically has children
I think they just mean alternate timelines but that’s a really simple answer so they don’t say it straight up
How would it sometimes dodesn't
THK is in Silksong btw (fake image)
The Knight has no mind to dream, and I think as the infection vessel himself THK wouldn’t also be a dreamer
Also all endings are canon to HK not necessarily to SS but I believe if there were to be an instance of refering to HK's endings it would be all or none
The knight does have a mind
And most certainly a will
Well the vessels were SUPPOSED to not have a mind to dream
That depends on interpretation
Just like how thk was SUPPOSED to not fail
I think this discussion belongs to the lore channel.
But thats besides the point
It doesn't, it makes decisions and does things it wouldn't need to if it were just following its mission like helping other bugs
Also Voidheart canonically works under TK"s will
The vessel plan was flawed to begin with
Since THK also has a mind and will
It's why the plan failed
But at that point, wouldn’t the knight be protected from dreams of the radiance if they have a will by the void
I seriously don’t see some endings leading to Silksong and some not
It's not will by the void the void is unified under the knights will
I know that’s what I was saying
guess we gotta ask about ss ending leading to SS in the next ama they might do sometime
Well all endings are canon, so all of them could plausibility lead into it since all it needs is hornet being captured and that's possible from all endings
^
Unless someone asks in an AMA later on down the line if one happens then I don’t think we’ll really know how she escapes the egg
Just because all endings are canon doesn’t mean silksong has to be consistent with all of them, my guess is that ending will be ignored.
Silksong can just lead off even 1 of the hollow knight endings and still be a sequel
But would they really create a branched path hollowverse instead of simplifying it to where she somehow escapes?
Seal Breaker bugs
in the AMA that said all endings are canon they also said they would keep this in mind for future games
I doubt they'd ignore an ending
TBH they'll probably leave it ambiguous
and since SS is standalone there's no actual reason nor obligation to even reference them
And if you want a confirmation of a sequel then hornet dying in a SS ending could be one, or actually simply not ever returning to Hallownest
elaborate? I’m not sure what you’re trying to say.
hornet dying means HK can't follow SS
Is the thing happening again?
hornet not returning to hallownest also means HK can't follow SS
Oh ok fair enough
Yeah nah very true
they could say in another game that theres a bug that can revive bugs 
I mean why's it matter if she's not dead 
Unless you want to basedly revive Isma so Ogrim can be with his love
Make this happy TC! our boy deserves to be happy
i have something to say
fartloom
goodbye
Deserves what, death?
he won't be, though
He can be if I make TC make it happen 
no u
True
hello, echo
I wonder if there will be a something in silksong that's similar to the Delicate Flower quest or the White Palace
Silk Soul 

Anyone else think there’ll be some bosses in Silksong that are based on spirits from the spirit glade in resting grounds
i don't think they'll be bosses unfortunately na. the spirit's glade was a backer thing and all backers of that tier got the same treatment. If only a handful were to be turned into bosses in SS, it'd leave a number of the backers out
their design could inspire things in SS unintentionally or without TC recognizing it as such though
but definitely nothing overt
That would be a impossible boss smh
Being large with a club isn't exclusive to that backer character
It's a pretty common trope 
i was gonna say that.. weapon over the shoulder is a very common pose

Idk the husk guard is the only other enemy that does that
its still a common (and very easy) character pose
Ok
It's common in fiction in general
If you consider Santa's bag to be a weapon then he technically falls into the trope
it is a weapon what do you mean
No character in Smash is more famous than Santa, get him into Smash
i agree
Agreed
Good morning Hollow Knight Fam. Any news on SS yet?
Boutta hit you with the
?sspsa
Reminder: The latest news for both Hollow Knight and Silksong is in #hk-announcements.
Check the pinned messages for more information, including a FAQ. 

cloth does it
Yeah I know
bruh i slipped and deleted that
Thoughts on returning characters in silksong? Or perhaps characters that are from hallownest, but we've never seen
idk.
That still doesn't apply to characters we've never seen that are from hallownest
We've seen hornet before
umm
we don't see peanuts from hallownest
that was a character that was supposed to be in.. uh it was a peanut mascot
???
yeah... we never seen him from hallownest
You mean new characters period
If they’re from HN as their backstory, it doesn’t really matter. The story of HN can’t really be too radically expanded on beyond what we already know (partially for reasons the other message already explained)
They mean a new bug character that happens to have been from Hallownest
uhh
????
a new character thats from the old kingdom? dosen't count as a new character?
…kingdom =/= game
well hornet will be returning
facts
any speculation for release today
No
Nothing different from yesterday
Or tomorrow 
We won't know if ss is coming tomorrow until tomorrow happens
I have used my gift of prophecy and can confirm with 100% certainty it will not come out tomorrow
thank you
i mean why can't they give us news
what kind of news you looking for?
just gameplay and stuff we can look at
they don't want to reveal anything yet
I guess thats it, they've already shown the max of what they want to show, bar whatever will be in the release trailer
I think the trailer and the demonstration at E3 from 2 years ago is enough for showing the gameplay. If continue to show, it would be spoiling alot
not "i", its "we"
The cycle continues 

good afternoon
good afternoon Diraw 

Nah cheesoid I would say it’s likely
There’s not really any reason why it wouldn’t
there is also no reason why it would
Apart from the fact that it has to come out at some point and has been in development for 4 years
not enough time, 4 more years, just to be safe
also, it's unclear if it has been 4 full years
if it was going to come out in 2021 wouldn't the release date have already been given
well ig I don't know how much time TC gives before releases
idk why people just cant be patient, TC will bring it out when its ready
I think people are fine with being patient, it's more of like a lot are curious to know about the progress
TC doesn't really give updates so all we can do is speculate
yeah i guess, but there have been some updates with information
for sure, but the last one was more than half a year ago iirc
only natural that with a game so good people will want more
true, i just feel like people dont speculate about the game (in this channel), just the release date
that's definitely true. probably because there isn't much to speculate anymore about the game itself
(because TC hasn't given much)
yea its understandable
only so much speculation that can be done before it gets stale, and so then all we have left is the release date. it's mostly positive though, HK was so damn good that people can't help but obsess over a full sequel
yeah, i obsess too, and i get what you mean about the speculation getting stale, i guess we can hope for another update on the content or something soon, but TC will do that on their own time ig
yep, exactly. until then only pain
Until then buy their merch 
A site in which you can buy game keys on discount says that Silksong will release in 2021.
I don't know how trustworthy that is though
it is a popular site, but yea you never know
true, imma have healthy skepticism for anything not from TC
Yea im waiting for the real deal from TC
I mean, there's still a good chunk of 2021 left. It could happen.
Inb4 TC releases Silksong on December 31st
das ok with me, I'll be on break so I can grind that MF out
i am 100% going to be spending all of my free time playing ss when it comes out
if i don't, i'll just get spoiled online by profasiagaming
that motherfucker
imagine playing through it in a week and being like "now what"
i'm sure ss will have tons of content to go through anyway
that would be pretty funny though i think perhaps
Every year we are like 'Silksong this/next year' . But it can even come 2024 😅
How’s Silksong
Isnt there like an option somewhere to block yourself from seeing their vids?
guys i know what team cherry is doing!!!!
Maybe I'm blessed but I haven't seen a profasiagaming video in my recommended in like 2 years
.
Back to waiting 😎
gamin 😎
Graig as usual league of legends
Honestly, kinda cool to play through the game as fast as possible just to get back typing here
Time well spent
I don't care about discussing this game until I'm done with it
He’ll be back. He always comes back
Unless I got stuck, which would never happen
everybody asks when silksong... but never how is silksong?
Or you know...missed something?
I'll just use the wiki for that
But Wiki not fast enough for my gamer god taste 😎
But ideally I will have gotten good enough at checking every wall for cracks / the game will have better direction for clearing out 100%
I think I'll rather wait till Relyea describes it to me in a video
I think the quest system will help with that
Depending on how cool they are 😏
Regardless of if they're good, they make it less likely to miss content
If you miss Nosk's hideout after getting the grub there, there is zero indication that it exists
I found this hideout because I have cracked wall vision
Nah fella, you got cracked vision
But having even vague pointers to that sort of thing is good imo
You know it exists but you don't know exactly where
there
yeah, that would be nice
yeah, that would be nice
that would be pretty neat, I agree

Yeah. In February iirc
About to hit 150K in no time
Which means new mod apps in no time 
early march
Wonder who's next o be infected
The infection grants incredible strength at the cost of joining the staff hive mind
i dont want to be infected
If that’s the case, allow me to chug it all
which is what we called our league of legends club
speaking of league i haven’t seen Joker in a bit
Hopefully it’s not a repeat of last year
League of Legends?
No thanks. Not interested in modship for this server anymore

he lost access of his account once again
dont remember it giving incredible strength
any mod apps wanters?
to become infected or not, that is the question...
Nope
I would say yes if it meant no LoL
window this is the equivalent of walking into the bar at 3 AM and asking the 3 or 5 people in there if they want a job
XD
The exception is that I’m GEF 
where else would you get workers for the night shift
no you are EEF
Becoming a mod is like selling your soul, minus all the benefits
in all fairness it’s really not
is modding actually any fun
Simply be a mod and quit your job whenever E3 arrives, then return when it’s over 
no, e3 is actually the easiest time to be a mod, because of the 2 hour slow mode
Remember when the slowmode was six fucking hours and the chat still went lightning fast?
yes
really? When was that
never
that one nintendo world i think
presumably during the... incident
itd never happen
It happened. I would know, I was muted during the chaos 
i remember that day fondly
highest it was 5 minutes
the highest slowmode i think i can remember was 6 or 8 mins
now i know thats not true, i vividly remember 10 minute slow mode
I remember a hours long slow mode too
And all of you call yourselves silksong fans
We do?
spreading misinformation like it’s nothing
maybe it's you who is wrong
can we call ourselves a fan of a game we havent experienced yet?
Well, isn’t that what silksong fans do anyways?
what else you’ll tell me that silksong is in the ready stages of being released?
soon
For shame all of you
soon
we are not allowed to disclose more
Yeah. At this point the game’s done. Wilbo and Ari’s doing a little trolling (
🦈) and making all of us suffer while they wait for Crowsworn to release

Anyways, Ogrim will return. He went to Pharloom
no he did not
can i go to pharloom? :(
Ogrim is the basketball in the giant mech basketball minigame
not yet
you guys haven't heard the new groundbreaking silksong theory, Ogrim and Hornet, one and the same
Who is also hegemol
that means hornet is the maggot
and the maggots don't deal damage
So silksong is a platformer with no combat
Yea he did. I heard a voice coming out of my toilet, Ogrim stopped by to inform me 
you may want a plumber to check out your toilet
No need to if Ogrim is out there somewhere, protecting the pipes
Dung defender, pipe protector, shit savior 
clog connector
ogrim may not be in ss but his family is 
no it can not
yes it can
That’s ogrims and lemms unwanted lovechild
Smh people still calling this gentleman a poop man when it's clearly a crusty old shell
i got baited, i wasn't responding to the thing above
but poop is funny
everyone shut up new stizzl video just dropped
sorry but this is stinky town
:(

It's Barnacle town
did you know, you're the fifth person this month to say that
I'd say it has been asked
silksong will release
when
only 5?
look at this guys, she thinks silksong will release 
but with your donations, we can prevent this
where do I donate
We should use a bot that bans silknever jokes 
if you say silksong an release in the same sentence you should get muted
Cause off topic discussions here are less of a waste of space than the people who make them




imagine not having silksong already
If someone tries to say "Hornet is void" we should have a bot that autocorrects it to nice lady each time and cofuse the shit out of people 
ikr? this game do be a banger though
fr
but you can't edit messages
Champions hall is one of my favourite parts
unless you're the poster 
You fool, bots can
the beasts of gods is my favorite part of the game so far
Midknight? I think the strat is to use the spike ring tool to pogo over him and then go for ome backs swings when vulnerable
i will try that he's just a pain
you absolute clown look what you just did
Hello ! I haven’t checked in in a few months, any news on the horizon ?
Silksong releases spins wheel on halloween
Lmao
PAX is happening soon but I dont think that there's gonna be anything there
I haven't actually heard many people asking if we think there'll be news there
maybe they are not aware of the event?
I guess
I’m looking forward to the spongebob and regular show meme about no news at PAX.
the regular show one is pretty used, huh?
The mental health of silksong is very important, so the question has to be asked a few times
I love how hollow knight came out alongside horizon zero dawn and botw and at this rate, both of those games sequels will be out before Silksong
do you love it or do you find it depressing
Play those sequels while you wait lol
Relish in pain
That’s the plan
Alternatively, you can just do the path of pain over and over hoping that pain hides your true pain
I did it hitless and I’m kind of happy enough with that lol.
Ah, it’s not so painful for you then, I guess there a couple different things to do
- cry
2)cry
3)sob
4)scream
Multitask, cry while playing omori
I take it you dislike the game
yes
since it is not as good as witcher 1
yeah you can do that too
the witcher one stands uncontested on the number one spot
indeed
Do any of you think 3 mask damage will show up in silksong?
Probably not
In a game with reduced iframes and binding not being as overpowered as people are making it out to be, there are less lazy ways to increase difficulty
Is SS a prequel to hk? My brother told me that it happens before hk, but i think he is wrong
We don't know but probably not
Imma say nah
Well, if the devs want all endings to be equally canon
maybe it will be a sequel
Weird logic but I agree with the conclusion
I'm fully aware that this isn't funny anymore
but I'm going to stick with what I said about midquelsong
Midquel what?
midquelsong
What is that
silksong occurs during hollow knight
So, it isnt before or after?
in the middle
Between CoT cutscene and hornet 2
So it happens in the middle of hollow knight? Like, every time we arent seeing hornet in HK she is doing silksong stuff?
Exactly
yeah
that's your personal theory, I have a much better time for it to happen 
So, she gets out of hallownest?
Obviously
What is cot?
City of tears
that sounds weird but why not
City of lake rain
city of piss
Terraria crimson be like
For how long have they been producing ss?
couple of weeks idk
At least 2 days
it's not clear, but around 3 years at least, maybe even more
They've said since HK was released. But it was planned to just be a DLC back then
it was supposed to be a DLC very early, almost only in the kickstarter times
Guys Crowsworn is already passed their 600k mark, this is getting interesting
yep
I assume the game would cost like 30 bucks with the new features and dlcs expansions being in place.
630k roughly
Have the devs been giving out info on the development of ss or at least life sings?
Nope
I haven't seen any updates about Ss in months
Well you can back 17$ to get the teir that gets you the game so hmm.
$20 makes more sense
Are they going to do the hk kickstarter stuff like adding ghosts made by the supporters?
Kinda
some backer content that they couldn't implement in HK will be added in Silksong instead
Yeah that my thought as that the bare minimum if you want a digital copy
Yep
also, it's still unknown if they will do post launch contents for Silksong
theres a cs version of shrine of beleivers basically
and also quest lines or bosses as really high backer teirs
seems reasonable
I probably place some cash in, so I dont have to worry about buying it on launch and digital wallpaper sounds cool
Would be pretty cool if they added something like the grimm troupe in silk song. Not exactly the grimm troupe, but something that brings a brand new aesthetic that is unique to them
grimm troupe has no reason to be in Pharloom, since it's not a dead kingdom (yet, at least)
I know. What i meant with something like a grimm troupe, as in something that adds a brand new aesthetic to the game which is only unique to them
Not a grimm troupe, but something that has the same execution as grimm troupe
as long it's original and interesting , then yeah, sure
Did you back the project as well?
Backing the project you mean like, funding them?
Nope. Still too young to acquire a sustainable amount of currency
Oh
It will be interesting to see if TC makes any dlc like GT
Its all good
So I'm new here. Is are all of the movement options going to stay ie ||double jump, dash, wall jump,|| or are there going to be different ones?
Obviously you'll have to find them like in hk
Have you tried robbery?
Not related, but you dont need to mark spoilers on anything here (yet)
Parent allowance 
Ok.
wall jump looks to be mostly the same
"dash" it's a bit different, and you can hold it to make hornet sprint
we don't know if Double jump will be in Silksong
Ok. Thanks
Got 60 money i acumulated from bday presents and brought it
time for hornet with the celeste dash
What are all the moves we know so far?
That might actually work
You mean you already used it? That ok you just wouldn't get the cool stuff and have your name at the end credits 
like, just movement abilities, or ALL of her moveset?
Btw, how is hornet's ability going to work? I saw she hooks onto enemies and attack them, but that seems like a terrible idea since getting up close onto enemies is generally bad (at least in hk)
As if that what I would want 
i think like a stab and bounces back
few Invincibility frames could solve that issue
Hornet speedy
hornet will commit genocide
gotta complete that bestiary
genocide route then
Pyro has evolved
wdym evolved
what do you mean?
that still isn't pyro final form
You pfp, I never seen that change and your username is longer.
i will reach my ultimate form on silksong release
so, soon then?
Alright see you guys later, we be seeing pyro screaming to the top of his lungs as soon as Silksong drops.
no, never
Dash is on press, sprint continues out of dash
So you can't sprint without dashing (unless maybe sprint state works if you hold dash during the damage animation or something idk)
you can also spam dash, not sure if there is any real reason to
Still seems like a terrible move when it comes to positioning
Dash spam is for more precise positioning I think
Unless they desing bosses which are weak agaisnt this
Hornet's dash is teeny tiny
the move she does in the trailer? it launches her in the air, for a combo with the dive attack
No, her dash
Cloak Glide seems interesting
So, its like a worse double jump?
i was talking about Doro's comment, but maybe it was about her grappling attack?
But even if it looks bad, i feel like TC knows what they are doing
i mean, she's using it for just a moment
Every mechanic in HK works properly and is useful in their own situations. I believe they will manage to make it good
if there's no double jump, then the game will be balanced around that, simple enough.
people were saying that her new healing method makes her OP because they don't know better
change is scary
What is her healing method?
Double jump always feels like a get out of jail free when it comes to platforming
And combat
Binding. Hornet can heal 3 masks super fast, but if you get hit you lose the silk and the masks.
she heals almost instantly (even while in the air ) by consuming all her silk spool for 3 masks.
All her starting spool*
Imo the instakill makes it fair since she will be healing a lot
yeah, right
it's not an instant kill
Its not instakill. I worded it wrong
Losing all mask doesnt equal death?
she just don't get any masks from the heal
see it in this way: she has 3 masks out of 6 and she tries to heal, an enemy hits her, now those 3 masks from the heal are nullified, plus she loses one mask from the hit like usual, so she's left with 2 masks
Does anyone have the clip where hornet is walking like a spider? I want to see it again
it's in the trailer
Do we actually know that she loses an extra mask?
We've never seen this behavior work as intended 
it....seems reasonable that it happens?
I mean, that makes sense tbh. If you get hit, you lose hp. If the healing is interrupted, you lose the healed health AND an already existing mask
but yeah, it's quite bugged how it works in the demo
I think it's also reasonable that they would get rid of that behavior from HK since it's so much riskier already
Is the demo out?
no, it's not public
It could go either way
And of course, even as fast and as powerful as Bind is, if Hornet gets hit during the action, the healing effect will be wasted and the silk will be gone! Staying alert is highly advised!
Sounds like she doesnt lose a mask if hit during healing
and probably never will
yeah, it changes nothing
Ah nvm i read it wrong
Only way to play the demo is to break into Leth's house. That is if you survive the gauntlet of Ninja crocodiles guarding the place
In fact I think the demo has primarily been on consoles 
also, as extra info, TC doesn't really have plans for a public demo anyway
Well, ill wait for SS to release. In the meantime ill go 112% hk in steel soul
i mean, there's still some time left tho?
and christmas blogpost is mostly a safe bet....
unless it's not this time, then yeah, you're fucked
not looking too good
december news gang
would be happy with news whenever gang
i need news or i am screwed gang
what did you do Pyro?
this
How much is 14%?
bare minimum but with cloak + hornet
TC will see that post and not release news just to spite you
you didnt say you had to beat the game at 14%, only that you'd do 14%
what a kind soul
i owe you something
im ijones27, dummy >:(

wait weren't you ijones72 a little while ago
this is the alternate timeline
how do I go back i dont like this at all
there is no going back
:(
Welcome to the constant shifting tides of time
Wrong actually! In the demo where hornet is hit while binding, you don’t see the masks recover but she gets hit a couple times without taking any damage.
yeah it was only visually
It’s just a UI glitch, you seem to get the health no matter what
i wonder if pharloom will be a dead kingdom or an alive one
it's pretty alive
:hornetgenocide:
We shall take down this kingdom
there is a staggering amount of hornet emotes
you didn't even use all the hornet emotes
that's all I have
I guess you're not getting them from mosscord then
i don't like mosscord
you don't have to like it to use their emotes
dunno
Same I absolutely despise it
The admins too
Hate every one of them
they're even weirder than we are
100%
The intended behavior is losing the masks, the fact that they were still there IS the glitch
And this is probably a frame perfect or close to frame perfect glitch anyway
Hornet gets hit after the binding animation finishes but BEFORE the masks finish filling in visually
I imagine that's what caused the glitch
And that window is unbelievably slim given how fast both animations are
Mosscord
cring
please don’t start dog piling on other servers
This isn't the window I was talking about
crinj
I think you look to be a healthy weight
window the unbelievably slim shark
Still in lockdown so…
we're all cringe in the end
lost my jaw though
Window is making sure he's in shape for the Olympics
Where He'll surely win the Gold medal
he's a shark, he'll ace the swimming
I can only eat soft foods and I have never missed pizza more
never had any problems with jaw gang
Anywho uh, silksong enemies are dorks if they can ruined my healing with frame perfect hits
Soft and wet
Look at me winning comedy of the year award

Fucking up healing isnt frame perfect, but not fucking up healing and making it look like they did might be
Or it might be patched by now 
Looks like we need to ask graig for this
is he even allowed to tell us that
Any News
No
Pls watch ur language as stated in the discord rules
I don’t think Graig would know that anyways 
It would definitely be hard to check without just asking the coders
someone ping jack
who?
i dont know
More neutral than water
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haha gottem with that cringe command
Bit late to the party
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Of course
I really hope SS has 3 damage enemies
Good news, a lot more than 3 enemies can damage you :D
Obviously they'd have to be easier not to get hit by but I feel like it would help balancing hornet's quick healing
Also we encounter a double damage enemy at the literal start of the, I feel like it would not be too surprising considering TC can mess around like that with high damage enemies even if it's a secret
at the start of what
Moss grotto
If you go backwards at the start of the demo there’s a two damage enemy I think
Which brings me to send an obligatory reminder
Graig confirmed you could kill Dave in the demo before
what
he did?
The thought that we may have missed something that you earn or unlock such as a room for killing Dave pains me
who is dave
big guy in demo
neat
Man I can’t wait for this game lol
hides behind a secret room at the start of the game
Proceeds to beat the shit out of Hornet
Refuses to elaborate any further

start of the demo anyway

Did you defeat Dave, Simo?
I can't wait to see the MAP
I just loved hk map and everything also the citadel and the clock tower look really good
E
Hey simo 
Seems Simo is too good for us lowly peasants. /j
what kind of pizza?
Cheese. Basic today
has the pizza arrived
Cheese is simple but does hit the spot
Not yet, i'm picking it up
I should make another map
when was the last map you made?
someone should make a deep docks version of this
Im sure Ive seen a deep docks version of it, but it couldve also been the map one
Now Simo I know you can’t reveal anything but is what you’re working on cool
I desire to know how based the work is going
Any news for relase date?
Nope
haha madeline crouch
Wait yes actually
We know we will get it when its ready
But the question is, are we?
No, we aren’t
With hornet not being void, how will silksong handle deaths?
i fail to see what void has to do with defying death
The knight leaves behind a shade, which has all his items
She leaves a cocoon instead
Oh
Yeah she leaves a cocoon
it was covered in some blogpost
Imma get the pic
the demoe
So does that confirm without a doubt that hornet isn't void?
that was already obvious
the fact hornet talks already confirms without a doubt she isnt void
allow me to present my vessel OC
no, the collector doesnt talk. At least, not coherently
nice silk, awesome cocoon
smh people confusing rules for vessels and void again
also wow I can't believe that silk is so strong it can hold up the cocoon by rooting onto stationary dust particles 
badass silk
Very cool, silk
Hornet: born from a pale being and a cool spider beast
where do you get void from that

the cocoon is filled with helium
I prefer a cocoon with copium
Herrah's great granddad on her mother's side was one quarter void
herrah is the collector's adoptive niece
how did you figure out silksong's twist
good evening
Bloodedge the vessel
quotes: "meh listens to broken vessel ost"
good evening
everything i do right now is just waiting for things to release
i played rain world to get away from silksong
now im waiting for a mod for that game to release
- Allow me to introduce my vessel oc...This is The Forgotten Vessel
- ...this is the 7th week in a row you've shown The Forgotten Vessel in community
Lore: forgotten in nosk's lair and eventually joins the grimm troupe somehow, also gets infected or something
Gets lifeblood infected or something
Has 200 swords but only lets people see 1
Have monarch wings, somehow
Of course it has to be claimed "that's all I need"
brb gonna go toss this into picrew
I am trying not to scream and cry
And because it's a vessel OC it has to have favorite things
it has 4 eyes(for some reason) it part spider it have wings it infected and lifeblooded and its have void attack and and
Radiance lasers because "wings"
You guys sound like the fun police rn
How dare people enjoy doing that 
how dare they enjoy making these noooooooooooooo 
You can enjoy it, it just happens to be cringy and funny as hell 
Its a start
Very pog 
e🅱️ic
Cool
Everyone always asks when Silksong, some people ask how Silksong, but nobody asks what’s Silksong
Hollow Knight: Silksong is the epic sequel to Hollow Knight, the award winning action-adventure. As the lethal hunter Hornet, journey to all-new lands, discover new powers, battle vast hordes of bugs and beasts and uncover ancient secrets tied to your nature and your past.
How is it similar to Omori
||I mean hornet did try to kill her sibling||
because the atmosphere is depressing

this number is too low
I win again 
Thats because you friends everyone here

I have like four steam friends I think one of them wants it
Chaddest Silksong vs Virginest Battlefield
Imagine we get a release date trailer and it just says “i forgor 💀”
We were 3rd until New world came out
Jeffery can suck it
It also seems New World is gonna disappear again in a month cause it releases soon so we can go back to third
regular pc now cant run this game 
true 
tomorrow

my uncle works at team cherry he can confirm
The $5k steam deck that's so powerful it's stronger than anything but the top top top tier PC
like alienware

Cant believe I lived long enough to witness PC 2
no six month update 
WOOO
TC is full on production mode and has thrown the updates out the window
out of who

s-silksoon?
Perhaps but who knows
Team Cherry does let’s harass them 

(/j)
yeah, fuck em
not the music guy though, this ain't his fault
But eh, just for good measure
Or is it. SS is taking forever because Chris is being super perfectionist with the soundtrack
We all know it's because Wilbo and Ari are waiting for Graig to beat the final boss so they can say it's possible
why are they removing the bugs smh don’t we want those
nice try
your alt has been caught, Chris
God the game looks so fun
yeah, it does
Hollow Knight I already consider the best Metroidvania of all time
But we’re getting two of them??? The second one being better than the first one??? Woah.
and do you wanna know the coolest part about all of this
the other side of the pillow
isn't half the game in the citadel?

I don’t think so
oh i thought mossbag said something about that
mossbag is not team cherry
the correct answer is:
mossbag obviously made the games, who’s teamcherry?
Hold up, did something involving silksong actually happen? I’m too tired to read all of these messages
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Yes thank you very helpful
If you count stuff like the dirtmouth or the colosseum then the first game has about 19 areas, and half of the game taking place in only the citadel would be pretty limiting
its good cuz i have been waiting for ss for a while now counting on it releasing soon but i have a lot of new games so i don't mind lol
Yeah we do feel kinda close don’t we?
Why is that?
though to be fair we’ve felt rather close multiple times already so I wouldn’t count on it
also yeah that sounds right
i feel like mossbag is becoming the new matpat based on peoples jokes about his theories
I think TC said in the Edge magazine interview that going into the Citadel is not the end of the game and that you must go to the top of the Citadel or something liek that, I don't remember very well. I guess the Citadel itself is a sizeable/meaningful endgame area.
But actually respectable
yeah most people think early next year but i really think like 2 to 3 months
I’ve said this a couple times but my estimate is between fourth quarter 2021 to third quarter 2022
We want it to be in 2-3 months but it needs to be till maybe early next year Imo
Id say at the earliest late October to early November but it’ll probably be later than that
yeah
wait one of the mods nick is "9 days!" do you guys think... or am i just getting for too speculative
Unless he’s a playtester, but they do not have the jurisdiction to say how long it’d be so really, no it’s something they’re up to
I don’t think the mods know much at all lol
I don't think mossbag is a playtester
if he was he would say it lmao
yeah
yeah but his mom is in the game and she told him the release date
oh yeah you’re right 
lol
I hope he makes another hour long explanation video so I know what’s going on
i hope he makes an hour long video of him crying with ss is fake videos playing in the background
Zaliants counter is for Pale court I believe
The silence from TC is the calm before the storm ofc
And by the storm I mean TC’s collab with fortnite
it's there for you to get speculative about, they're just fucking with you
They were counting down to my birthday but then they stopped and moved it by like 3 days
what have we talked the least about
mmm?
uhh
The HKSS McDonald’s meal
Im still trying to get the Lace toy
hhhhhh
h
Lets talk about this ant. Also about Hornet's Needolin
That ant is a heretic who loves music
do u think hornet could always play her needle or is it something she learned in pharloom
Do the ants not love music? Their queen is a flamenco dancer
Probably Pharloom cause music and silk is their stuff
maybe the church keeper teaches it
True
oo that would be cool
Also do you think hornet passes out in front of them because of exhaustion


poop funny, court is adjourned
