randomizer

[zealous gorge]

Wait, did you randomize the rooms?

[worn spruce]

yea lol, I made a new run after that lol

[worn spruce]

yea i did

[zealous gorge]

Ok lol

[zealous gorge]

Dang

[worn spruce]

I honostly dont think im gonna win easily cause crossroads is already infected for me

[zealous gorge]

Dang

[worn spruce]

I think knowing where items are would help me but Idk where they are😭

[zealous gorge]

There’s a mod for that, I forgot what it’s called though

[dim cypress]

Rando Map Mod

(which is covered on the site nerthul linked above & recommended you check out to learn the basics)

[worn spruce]

ive gotten half the charms and 0 abilities😭

I JUST FOUND NAILMASTER

and I found path of pain, 0 abilities tho

[young elk]

actual vanilla holy shaw

[worn spruce]

bro dirtmouth for me is just a collection of softlocks😭

[arctic dust]

dearest homothetyhk...

[worn spruce]

I keep getting softlocked in randomizer

I think I got the unluckiest randomizer

I ESCAPED DARK DEEPNEST

I GOT A SOFTLOCK NOW I HAVE TO GO BACK BRO I HATE THIS GAME

this game loves me

[small comet]

wdym "softlock"

you're meant to have benchwarp

[sullen latch]

a

[warm surge]

i always getting locked when tryna go past the false knight

[robust peak]

you need to do one rotation and then the wall becomes breakable

but since this is the #randomizer channel, city crest and the geo chest are probably checks

[warm surge]

yea ik

but sometimes game like to put me in state where i cant go no where bc always they put the ima call it fireball grubs locked and i cant go further

to the waste

biom

[swift island]

I'm not sure what that means, but:

• Rando expects you to be able to warp to benches you already sat on and to your sarting location with benchwarp to avoid softlocks
• There are plenty of ways to escape crossroads without vengeful spirit

[zealous gorge]

<@&283547423706447872>

[deft lake]

it's done it's done

[zealous gorge]

Ok

[zealous gorge]

Thanks

[warm surge]

yo is there like a mod or smth that shows what is last thing i got in the randomizer or no?

[high juniper]

That would be RecentItemDisplay

[warm surge]

thanks

[slim narwhal]

have non randomized spells always turned into shinies?

[warm stirrup]

who hath pinged me

i swear i got a ping here

[junior lance]

crazy i got pinged too

[warm stirrup]

yeah

[mortal zenith]

You were pinged by @junior lance , fwiw

[warm stirrup]

thank you

for WHAT reason

[mortal zenith]

Seemingly no reason

I assume that you know them, but if not then they were just harrassing you from what I can tell

they pinged you and then deleted it

[warm stirrup]

okay

[warm stirrup]

i don't

he left the server

[mortal zenith]

They left after being called out

Good riddance

[supple quail]

Huh I can still see his pronoun rolls I guess discord cached those

[slim narwhal]

Incredeble

Anyways

Hey nerthul,do you speciffically check playerdata.correctShadowDashDirection for shade gates logic?
If it did that,you could fix the nutorious split shade cloak problem,the one caused by qol.(having left shade cloak and right dash would allow you to get through a right shade gate)

[calm mason]

I think that's handled already. Long story short, vanilla shade gates are quite spaghettish, but the part that allows the bypassing without shade cloak is hanlded by the gate item check. The method that grants the item I'm quite confident that looks for the isShadowDashing state.

[sick pawn]

-# new plando where all of the shade gates kill you and you have to abuse the non-shadedash jank way of getting through without obtaining the item

[calm mason]

Whenever I do a plando it'll be the flower quest plando

[warm surge]

i love getting rancid eggs from every chest possible

i love randomizer i just got isma tear

[modern sail]

is there news abt ss rando?

[compact oriole]

smb got a randomizier mod for nintendo i realy need a randomizier spedrunn with joycons

[arctic dust]

mods only work on PC versions of the game, so you won't be able to play rando on switch

[compact oriole]

nah i have extension

idk buit it works s*ity tho

[dim cypress]

There literally is no console api

If you're "extrnsion" allows your switch to run Linux or something, then the instructions would be the same as pc modding.

[faint haven]

on randomizer i walked into kings pass and fought pure vessel first thing

is that normal?

[dim cypress]

Sounds like enemy rando, so yeah.

[supple quail]

This is #randomizer not hkmeme

[somber crystal]

:c okie

[somber crystal]

-# bu... But i can't attach files in, hk memes :c

[supple quail]

the solution to that is to send productive messages in topic-appropriate channels until you gain the permissions

[somber crystal]

Ok, good idea, thanks, now I'm going from here, some people are starting to hate me i guess

[past kiln]

Jeeze I'm deep into this rando, and I'm still missing Isma's Tear/Tram Pass/Shade Cloak/Lantern.

[past kiln]

Finally got lantern

finally

[fading wolf]

My luck is crazy iv only goten free charms in my archipelago

[dim cypress]

<@&283547423706447872>

[lethal ridge]

money's mine thanks

[hot berry]

I’m telling zal you’re stealing all the free money and not sharing with the rest of the mod team

[lethal ridge]

weh :(

muffin wait

no

i'll share the money in staff channel

[dim cypress]

whoever pings mods should get a finder's fee TBH

[patent fiber]

I played a randomizer but it was unbeatable as the false knight room right off the bat had the big thing from deepnest that opens its mouth and a PRIMAL ASPID

[dim cypress]

Enemy rando is not considered compatible with item rando. But you can always reroll any room, so it's not unbeatable either

[zealous gorge]

Dang again

<@&283547423706447872>

[mortal zenith]

that just means that you set your Randomizer Charm Cost to a really low number

<@&283547423706447872>

[fading wolf]

could be

maybe by accident

[mortal zenith]

There was a bug for a long time (which I believe was fixed, but maybe not?) where the default setting was actually 0 instead of -1, which would force them all to be free

[stone bone]

gotta love more doors

<@&283547423706447872> scammer on the loose

thank you

[mortal zenith]

Is this More Doors + Miligolf?

I wonder how More Doors + TRTR work together

[stone bone]

yes xD. did get grimmchild from it so was worth it. just had to noclip through the door

[slim narwhal]

Oh lol

[slim narwhal]

Wdym "how"?

[mortal zenith]

How as in how they interact.
More Doors covers up (removes?) the Transitions, but you can go in the rooms themselves, so IDK if TRTR handles it well. And if you spawn into room in a Locked transition, how that works out.

Admittedly, I don't really play Room Rando, so it's probably answered the same as that normally would be.

[dim cypress]

I would assume you need the door for the transition check. But I did decide to leave more doors off my massive seed so maybe next time

[slim narwhal]

Oh trtr
I forgot we had that one,i read it as trjr

Altho i don't think there are any problems. Moredoores deffinetelly doesn't remove and respawn the transitions when the door is opened,that just doesnt make sense. And it's been a bit scinse trtr came out. All,or at least most of the doors work the same,so if there was an incompatibillity,we would have already seen it reported

[dim cypress]

I dont think many people have used trtr

[slim narwhal]

In room rando you can also come out of a,say false knight door right1,and it would be removed. But you would still have false knight door left1 to use the key on

[dim cypress]

And lots of people never make bug reports

Mathgeek has been a bit surprised at some of what I've come across. And I'm running on a custom beta of trtr because math had to tweak something to even get to the generation with the amount of connections I'm using

[fast oasis]

ble

[leaden warren]

Hotel

GOLDEN DANDELION

[dim cypress]

This channel is for randomizer mod, not just random words

[terse sierra]

He randomised his message

[dense cedar]

hello. i have the skin list layer that overlaps benchwarp and i cant hide it, tried to press delet but nothing happend, someone know how to fix this?

[swift island]

try fn + delete

and if that doesn't work you can also toggle it somewhere in options -> mods -> custom knight

[dense cedar]

it doesnt work

[swift island]

^

[slim narwhal]

Me when i only read the short message

[dense cedar]

it worked, thank you so much!

[high juniper]

<@&283547423706447872> Happened again

[gray haven]

hello??

[frail nacelle]

heh

[gray haven]

:/

[zealous gorge]

Change the key bind to “backspace”

That’s what works for me

[dense cedar]

gotcha, thx!

[zealous gorge]

No problem!

[zealous gorge]

2,999 geo dropped in will get you claw

[calm mason]

If it makes you happier, that's very likely a dupe claw

[gray haven]

yeah it was

the other one turned out to be at failed champ

[dense monolith]

I have white palace rando on exclude white palace, and then it puts lumafly lantern on king fragment? Does that mean lantern will not be required for anything important, or am I misunderstanding the option?

[mortal zenith]

Iirc Kings Fragment is still Randomized if Charms are selected. You can double check the Rando ReadMe though

[dense monolith]

The impression I got was that king fragment would be randomized out, but nothing would take its place so that you don't have to go there. I guess that's not the case, but I don't know why that option exists to keep everything in there vanilla except the one thing that's extremely difficult.

[mortal zenith]

Yeah, as mentioned in the ReadMe, it's not affected.
https://github.com/homothetyhk/RandomizerMod?tab=readme-ov-file#long-location-settings

The reason (iirc) is essentially because King's Fragment location specifically is considered a vanilla charm location, and if you're going for TE it's assumed that you would at least be okay with potentially needing to go there for it.

Similarly, afaik if you have Mask Shards shuffled, then you may be required to do Flower Quest

[dense monolith]

Or normal ending apparently as well.

[covert remnant]

<@&283547423706447872>

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1231442690936143933/1451702396077084685/dog-hand-moment-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif

[deft lake]

no

[covert remnant]

ty mods

oh

it’s you.

[deft lake]

what did i do 😭

[zealous gorge]

That option probably exists so there aren’t any important checks in the path of pain

[dense monolith]

There is a seprate one for pop. I just decided when I get awoken dream nail, I will use debug mod to get whatever's down there. Not that I can't do white palace, I would just really rather not in a randomizer.

[zealous gorge]

Oh ok

[mental orbit]

wacist

[slim narwhal]

What

[dull sinew]

What

[runic gust]

hi

[dusk oar]

i like grubs

in hollow knight

[arctic island]

q2wertyo9['

random text

[mortal zenith]

Reminder that spamming random text can get you muted, and reset your ability to post images / join VCs

[zealous gorge]

What if we have image perms and vc perms and all that and just have a random text moment?

[fast oasis]

yea

[steep gorge]

Huh

[swift island]

Wrong channel

[halcyon hill]

I just realized that

[halcyon hill]

It doesn't even let me send them bro 😭

Why do I have no permsssss

[swift island]

?tag permpsa

[frail nymph]

Why can't I access VC / Post Images?

In order to prevent Scammers and Raiders we have locked Voice Chat usage and Image permissions behind a 150 and 300 messages milestone respectively.

• If you have already reached the requirements and don't have the roles feel free to DM @worldly aurora (NOT TICKETTOOL) or any available Moderator with your total message count, More info in #support-and-faq

  • NOTE: if you are DM'ing a mod, please make sure they are accepting DM's, check their server bio

• Mutes, Kicks, And bans reset your score and you will have have to start again.

⚠️ Artificially increasing message count is considered spam.

[dense monolith]

How could they send the image here if they dont have perms?

[halcyon hill]

The channel allows it

[high juniper]

This channel has embed perms enabled for rando stuff

[dense monolith]

That's... obvious. Ignore me.

[slim narwhal]

soo when nerthul bingy

[rustic owl]

Boo

[haughty lion]

Bro you scared me to death

[young dagger]

is that the real DarkxWolf17

[halcyon hill]

Yeah

[halcyon hill]

Tis me, lil uzi

[icy depot]

Are mods available for new version?

Just yeah askin'

[zealous gorge]

Not yet

[icy depot]

Waiting for it tho cus I'm just going to stream my own runs.

Cus I'm already going really close by beating Steel Soul on 100%>

Cus yeah just mostly planning to record and maybe just engage with community later.

I won't mind joining or gathering people for you know those famous games of speedrunner vs hunters.

Which fireborn does a lot.

[zealous gorge]

Good luck, Steel soul 100% isn’t that bad imo

Oh wait

This is the randomizer channel XD

[icy depot]

Yeah but I'd do randomizer runs when the new api comes out.

I already did a lot of progress on my streams, 69% under 5 hours.

So I might kill two birds with one stone with that run as I did with speedrun and steelsoul ending.

[swift island]

you can always downpatch (unless you have the game on gamepass)

[icy depot]

Eh I just wanna wait cus I don't feel like down patching yet.

[zealous gorge]

Alr

[barren tundra]

is there something that gives me the optimal build with my charms (and their costs)?

[mortal zenith]

What does that mean?

[barren tundra]

i dont know what charms i should use

[mortal zenith]

You can just pick what looks interesting to you?

[barren tundra]

and also all the charm cost are rtansomized

[mortal zenith]

I personally usually go for charms that give me more speed, then ones that give more damage

[dense monolith]

What charms you like is personal preferance. A algorithem can't figure it out for you. Just go with something random, and ajust as you see fit.

[slim narwhal]

Surely write a mod that:
Has tierlists of charms based on the goal(exploration,combat,etc.)
Have the player pick the goal
And then the mod gives you the best charm picks from what you have

[dim cypress]

I have rarely seen a tier list i agree with

[slim narwhal]

its not like you have to use the mod

[dim cypress]

I'm saying, who does agree with tier lists, other than the person who made them? And if the mod allows custom tier lists, we're basically almost back to people just picking their own charms lol

[slim narwhal]

well

some tier lists are better than others

but if the person doesnt want to use their own build they have to treat something as "optimal"

therefore a tierlist would work

or like "most popular r5 build for combat" and "whatever 112 runners use at the end for exploration"
which is effectivly a tierlist

[calm mason]

Heavy Blow is goated because it can be used for a Corpse Crawler skip into Herrah

[slim narwhal]

^

[slim narwhal]

this would just be a part of "cursed skips" tierlist

[calm mason]

Frankly, I do not know

But will keep an eye open for pings once I get time for some session

I feel like Monday is possibly a good day at my morning

[gloomy harness]

Nooooooooo

i wanted to stream my rando after not checking this server for like 3months

and now its locked behind 150 messages 😭

[high juniper]

If you have the messages already, you should be able to message modmail with the info for perms

[gloomy harness]

Nah, i dont

[dim cypress]

Just stream elsewhere like Twitch or something & post in #livestreams

[pulsar leaf]

whats the best randomizer mod for lumafly?

[high juniper]

That would be Randomizer4, all the rest are connections which add stuff to rando 4

It is recommended to read the rando page on here

[frail nymph]

Small Homothety Organization

-# A place for all the info you could need for Rando and Glitches

Home page: https://www.smallhomothetyorganization.org/
╚ Rando
╚ Glitches
╚ Events
╚ Grubby

[covert remnant]

<@&283547423706447872>

the people of randomizer have been getting free money for 11 minutes

[deft lake]

I JUST woke up man

Oh my GOD

[frail patio]

Guysss

This is huge

I got Swim yesterday

[barren tundra]

should i use glowing womb for 0

[stone bone]

these charmnotch costs are crazy good 🤣

[barren tundra]

wtf

[stone bone]

i didnt set the minimum/maximum my settings were premade

[barren tundra]

k also what mods are in the picture cause there are a lot of modded charms

[stone bone]

Pale Court and Transcendence

<@&283547423706447872> scam alert

xD

[nocturne herald]

I’ll get you

[stone bone]

right as i send it

[slim narwhal]

-# that exact combination wouldnt work....

[stone bone]

Oh yeah

Pale court doesnt work with other charm adding mods right?

forgot bout that+

[barren tundra]

why?

[stone bone]

not sure

[slim narwhal]

There's another mod that does work tho

Pale court charms even has transcendence synergies

Altho no bosses

[stone bone]

<@&283547423706447872>

[ripe plaza]

@odd swan did you know about the existence of this channel

[odd swan]

Nope

i'll have it pinned

O

[eternal atlas]

@kind leaf

[odd swan]

MY CHILD

lol. and i already have 3 grimmkin flames

[zealous gorge]

Rip

[odd swan]

did no eyes's room without lumafly and got a fucking geo rock from it

[odd swan]

OH MY GOD i wish i had nail arts rn

can u do this without dash

wait how does jiji exactly work?? i have 4 rancid eggs.

oh i somehow reached the steel soul room?

TWO NOTCH QUICKLSASH

[slim narwhal]

Yea

[zealous gorge]

Got this at the start lol

[odd swan]

that is crazy

[zealous gorge]

Yeah

Good thing I don’t need compass

W Cornifer

Wonderful

[odd swan]

FUCK NO ELEVATOR

still haven't unlocked any movement upgrades

[zealous gorge]

Dang

[odd swan]

i reached all the way to that "soul fragment" through a bunch of pogos and all i got from it was a soul totem

[zealous gorge]

Dang

[odd swan]

oh hmmmm

alright ig i'm not upgrading i mean id on't have the required geo for another one anyway

[odd swan]

LUMAFLY

oh nice

DREAMNAIL?

idk why the seer thinks i have awoken the nail

and i don't get the awards from it

[zealous gorge]

lol

[zealous gorge]

I GOT HERRAH IN STAG NESR

*NEST

I used the vengefly pogo to get up here

I got a precept from Zote lol

W

[mortal zenith]

@static isle This channel is for the randomizer mod, not sending random memes

[static isle]

👍

[barren tundra]

i got void heart but i was using king soul is there a way to revert it?

for some reason i only got ubreakable streangth and not greed

[nimble goblet]

hi

[quartz trench]

hello

[nimble goblet]

heyo

check speedrunning channel

cauz it has a query if u can solve it

[quartz trench]

i cant never done ss wanna 100% first like 10% to go

[stone bone]

So funny placement. i had hollow knight chains on. One i don't remember where it was at. second one was at Flower Quest White Lady. I went to check what is at that chain. Chain 3. ok sure i check that one: chain 4.

already had void heart and dream nail so that randos done

[zealous rock]

ok what rando gives that?

also i have Extrarandomizationconnections and dream orbs randomized and they didn't collect, is that a bug or could it be a conflict with orb tracker? since then i unninstalled orb tracker since i just forgot i had it on at that time

[stone bone]

should be access rando

[zealous rock]

Ah ok, I will see if i have that, if not then I will

I like to make my randomizers as painful as possible

[stone bone]

did you ever do a bug prince rando?

[zealous rock]

I have yet to do transition randomizers because I dont trust myself to be able to keep track of what room goes to what

[zealous rock]

Bug prince?

[stone bone]

Ok do a transition rando before bug prince xD

[zealous rock]

Im new to the whole randomizer scene, the closest I did before was Archipelago

[stone bone]

You get 3 options when entering a new transition

and i checked to be sure. hk chains are in access rando indeed

[zealous rock]

Is there a mod ti keep my nod settings saved? Or a way to do so? I keep having g to turn on the chaos hud for transcendence and several others

[languid kiln]

What's the name of the randomizer mod?

And is it on lumafly?

[stone bone]

general randomizer? Randomizer 4 and yes it is on Lumafly

[mortal zenith]

?tag sho

[frail nymph]

Small Homothety Organization

-# A place for all the info you could need for Rando and Glitches

Home page: https://www.smallhomothetyorganization.org/
╚ Rando
╚ Glitches
╚ Events
╚ Grubby

[mortal zenith]

I would recommend checking out this site for getting started info

[languid kiln]

Ok thanks

[zealous rock]

Huh...is Bug Prince and TheRealTransitionRando compatible?

[stone bone]

would say prob not

could very much be wrong

[zealous rock]

I mean....here is hoping, I saw the link and...yeah I made my randomizers worse...I LOVE IT!

I cant wait to be in pain lol

[zealous rock]

Still randomizing after 37 minutes

[supple quail]

how many things are you randomizing lol

[calm mason]

TRTR + Geo + Grass and you could wait one or two hours

[zealous rock]

Replace trtr with bug prince

[zealous rock]

And I wanted to make it as chaotic as possible so...Yes

Milliolf. Trtr, and pale court charms didnt want to rando so...thats the only randomizers I dont have

Not doing cursed this run though

[slim narwhal]

If you mean bug prince transition rando you're in for 5 hours

[zealous rock]

Yay!

[slim narwhal]

If you mean palecourtcharms crashing on generation,that just requires reopening the game once

Maybe i should add a disclaimer in the readme or something..

[zealous rock]

Mark of purity wasnt randomizing

[slim narwhal]

Yea thats the bug i meant

[zealous rock]

Oh ok

Well I love that mod so...Time to renable!

[slim narwhal]

How do you love it if you haven't played it

[zealous rock]

I was running it since it has been released since normal pale court didnt work

Just not in randomizers

[slim narwhal]

-# this is actually because it tries to randomize purity first. All the charms have the same bug because the problem is somehow the embeded resource,but it just crashes on the first one so it doesnt go further

[zealous rock]

I mostly wanted pale court for the charms anyway lol

So yeah, pale court charms is exactly what i wanted lol

So try to gen, quit the game entirely then reopen?

Now to figure out how to add more item slots for the shops

[slim narwhal]

Palecourt can actually work in randomizers,but it's content isnt randomized
Altho using it comes with more issues like bricking additional maps,access rando,transcendence

[zealous rock]

Yeah, transcendence has been a staple since I discovered it

That and lore master and lost artifacts

But at some point I want to bring out my pack and just call it Randomizer hell

[gray haven]

is delayed weight the one thats supposed to make the progression harder

[zealous rock]

i would also likee to know this

[wild schooner]

which is worse, Dreamer as first randomizer item or every item needed for progression locked away in places like deepnest

[covert remnant]

if you don’t get lantern, absolutely all progression in deepnest

dreamer as a first item actually gives you a lot of faster access options to salubra, wellic, and fresh access to fungal wastes

[calm mason]

Colosseum Start with Wall Rando having Swim at Collector with Love Key at Colo 2 is worse.

[slim narwhal]

How unlucky would you have to be to have claw and not have any other progression besides that

[calm mason]

Very much, but I do speak from experience lmao

[inner roost]

yo i am looking for a item rando

[dense monolith]

Like, looking for the mod? Randomizer 4.

[frosty thorn]

which silksong rando mod is the best rn?

[zealous rock]

well, time for my randomizer hell, if anyone wants the mod pack....send a dm lol

[calm mason]

The best way would be to share a key with RandoSettingdManager

[zealous rock]

would that include all the additional randomizer mods?

[calm mason]

Yes

[valid ginkgo]

What do I do here

[valid ginkgo]

I added a few more connections and this happened

[slim narwhal]

What in the world of fuck am i looking at

What are your vanilla notch costs

[valid ginkgo]

70-100

[slim narwhal]

Thats like vanilla

What

[valid ginkgo]

I also have randosettingsrando if that changes anything

[slim narwhal]

Try disabling pcc and see if that fixes it
For some reason its misbihaving today
No but this can't make sense in any case. Pcc,and pretty sure transcendence,don't touch vanilla notch costs. Pcc only looks at them

[slim narwhal]

Uhhhhhhhhh it could
I have no idea how it works

If it changes the settings during randomization yes that could break it

Cz rando thinks the max is 100
And then suddenly it rolls min as 110

Sigh

<@&283547423706447872>

[valid ginkgo]

I’ve excluded misc settings so it shouldn’t do that though

I’ll try switching off pcc later

[valid ginkgo]

ok i switched off setting rando and it's fine now

[zealous rock]

I just started my randomizer and....

Why is everything oro

Yeah no, enemy rando is to much for me

[frail nymph]

Enemy Randomizer FAQ

Enemy Randomizer is the mod that randomizes Bosses and Enemies. It is considered in Alpha, so you may run into problems when using it, and having DebugMod installed is recommended.

All Enemies are the same‽

The settings do not properly initialize at this time, so you'll need to Pause > Options > Mods > Enemy Randomizer > Modules and turn each module OFF and then back ON.

I only want Bosses shuffled!

You can choose which enemies are shuffled in the mod's menu. The pins of the Enemy Randomizer channel has a list of the names of bosses, as well as a spreadsheet of all enemy names.

Can I use it with Randomizer 4?

You can, but Enemy Randomizer doesn't make changes to the logic, so it's not recommended to use Skips that are enemy related. Additionally, items that come from Enemies may not spawn correctly.

[valid ginkgo]

<@&283547423706447872> gwnj i'm keeping the money

I love these mods

[slim narwhal]

Does this mean settings rando is broken in general or just that pcc doesnt like it
I could maybe fix it,this at least has clear pointers on what's misbihaving

[slim narwhal]

I love how i can actually clearly read everything lmao

[warm stirrup]

MMRL T TH
HLLW KNGHT

n th Blck Vlt fr .
Thrgh ts scrfc Hllwnst lsts trnl.

for real broken vessel
ts scrfc 💔

[zealous rock]

i love Alphabet rando

[warm stirrup]

it's like a caveman learning English

Z is pretty much useless except for every instance of zote

same with X and xero

[slim narwhal]

Ping @valid ginkgo

[valid ginkgo]

I don’t think its pcc

I tried with it off

[slim narwhal]

Ok

Interresting

Well glad at least pcc works

[valid ginkgo]

i glitched myself into upper city

and now i'm trapped

[lethal ridge]

go ahead

[zealous rock]

Im just going to keep working on my randomizer, bug prince didnt seem to work with randomizing transitions so I had to switch to a different one, and I hope I got enemy rando working right this time

[slim narwhal]

One more feaseble explenation popped up in my head

Rando settings rando hasnt been updated scinse the last rando update,so now it just doesnt work

Doesnt make a whole lot of sense scinse its just settings,and not logic. But it could maybe be a reason

[mortal zenith]

Settings Rando shouldn't need to update, but it can make illegal settings

It's normal to need to try new seeds with it to get valid settings

Iirc it doesn't respect stuff like Steel Soul + Shade Skips either

[slim narwhal]

Oh.

[frosty thorn]

there many randomizer mods whihc onces are the best rn? and some combined work togehter well? can somebody tell me?

for silksong

[dim cypress]

All the silksong randos are pretty buggy

[mortal zenith]

I will say, I haven't hadn't heard feedback from anyone trying the newest one that appears to be from a member of the Chinese community, called "Hard randomizer". My understanding of it is that at least handles things in a way that may work, although in a pretty different way from HK rando

[dim cypress]

Haven't looked myself but saw another comment this is another with no logic so

[slim narwhal]

If its "just" no logic i think it can be pretty fun
Whatever nonsense the first ss rando was,the one where you could get multiples of one item and some items werent randomized,etc etc would not be fun

[dim cypress]

I'm not a glitches player & I'd like to actually finish seeds so it doesn't sound much fun to me but I guess we'll see how bad it is if people try it (many will likely be too lazy to translate)

[slim narwhal]

No logic is not for everyone,but its at least a real setting
You don't really have to use glitches,but you would end up having to reset so yeah
Still i think if the randomization pool is "the same as vanilla hk rando",at least 3/10 seeds would be completeble

Unless maybe it also randomizes quest rewards. At which point it is very likely cooked

[dim cypress]

Doesn't seem to from the translation but it does rando needle direction & also its a transition rando

[slim narwhal]

Interresring

No logic room rando is insanity

[covert remnant]

<@&283547423706447872>

mist or beast

also in #speedrunning fate

[mortal zenith]

From what I saw of the description, it's not "proper" logic, but it essentially tries to weigh items, and tries to give you progression at a higher chance or sth, so that it's less likely that you'll get fully stalled.

-# Granted, I was looking at it via google translate, and while still waking up, so

[zealous rock]

right now, i am just waiting on my randomizer to finish genning lol

[zealous rock]

looks at my modpack I have created Randomizer Hell

[small berry]

Leg eater is scamming himself

[dense monolith]

He needs to take a page out of Sly's book.

[small berry]

NO HE DOES NOT

[dense monolith]

lol

[small berry]

SLY WAS TRYING TO SELL ME 2 GEO FOR 1100

Wastes is absolutely stacked

[warm stirrup]

Silksong’s fairly recent so there’s only item and enemy rando afaik

Give tc time to release dlcs and they’ll likely be complete more

[small berry]

Sly is selling me kingsoul 2 and salubra is selling me kingsoul 1

should i go for true ending?

[zealous rock]

I have been randomizing...for 12 and a half hours, on attempt 3....is this cursed?

[calm mason]

Oh god

For your sanity, please send your modlog

Just to make sure there are no setting incompatibilities

[zealous rock]

Oh im sure there is some somewhere

[calm mason]

I'm worried about the kind that would not allow generation to finish

[zealous rock]

I wouldnt know where to even look lol, so post the modlog in Modding help?

[calm mason]

?tag modlog

[frail nymph]

ModLog

"ModLog.txt" can be found in the same folder as your save files (you can drag and drop the file into discord)

• Open Modlog with Lumafly (you should be able to copy and paste it into Discord)
• Windows: %APPDATA%\..\LocalLow\Team Cherry\Hollow Knight\
• MacOS: ~/Library/Application Support/unity.Team Cherry.Hollow Knight/
• Linux: ~/.config/unity3d/Team Cherry/Hollow Knight/
  Note: some mod installers such as Lumafly have an Open saves folder button which allows you to find the ModLog easily. Otherwise, follow the steps below:

To get the ModLog on Windows:

1. Press ⊞ + R

• Note: ⊞ is the Windows button, in between Ctrl and Alt on your keyboard

2. Copy and paste this into it %appdata%\..\LocalLow\Team Cherry\Hollow Knight and hit "OK".
3. ModLog.txt is in this folder.

To get the ModLog on MacOS:

1. From the Finder, click "Go" in the menu at the top of the screen and select "Go to folder".
2. Copy and paste this into it ~/Library/Application Support/unity.Team Cherry.Hollow Knight/ and press enter.
3. ModLog.txt is in this folder.

[calm mason]

Just post that here

We don't know if there's an actual issue yet

Or just long-ass generation times

[zealous rock]

Post the modlog here?

[calm mason]

Yeah

[zealous rock]

I just want my randomizer to be fucked....let me make it fucked!

and be runnable lol

[calm mason]

Oh that's the goal

But the loading screen taking forever might not be the kind of cursed you want

[zealous rock]

i have dubbed my randomizer Randomizer He;ll

[zealous rock]

that is correct

i want the seed itself to be cursed...not the loading screen

oh i can't post it in here, haven't sent enough messages

[calm mason]

Oh okay

[zealous rock]

made a post in modding help

[proud dock]

dang i havent done randomizer in almost a year

[solar granite]

Well you should its fun :3

[proud dock]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1135348779877404869/1402455625816084580/1277048160359026770.gif

[small berry]

omfg

i was gonna go for true ending

and i could...

but like

i spent the entire game looking for claw

[dim cypress]

You don't need claw for true end

[small berry]

i found two random dreamers

[small berry]

ik obv

[small berry]

and i was postponing mantis lords

bcuz i thoguht i couldnt do it without claw

anyways

i got wings

beat mantis lords

and i got the third dreamer

and im so fkin mad

bcuz i just spent like 4 hrs looking for an item that would facilitate my whole run, just to not ned it anymore

i just want this to be over with

imma beaT THK now

SHould i go for true ending?

also i think i got EVERY rancid egg the game has to offer

[small comet]

there's 19 in rando iirc

maybe 21

one of the two

[calm mason]

It's 21

[slim narwhal]

9+10

[zealous gorge]

Happened a lot

[inner roost]

My dream nail was in the area in resting grounds where U had to have it to Access it

[mortal basin]

Is it possible to get randomiser on xbox?

[dense monolith]

Mods are not supported on consoles

[small comet]

damn thats crazy what about the other 3 dream nails?

[somber moss]

@shut slate do check your dms

[shut slate]

School just started, gimme 45 mins

[somber moss]

Alr

[tacit bloom]

hi

hi

hi

hi

hi

hi

hi

hi

hi

hi

hi

hi

[calm mason]

Stop spamming

[tacit bloom]

hihi

hi

hi

hi

hi

hi

Who gon stop me?

[calm mason]

<@&283547423706447872> any of them

[tacit bloom]

only hurricane

and auberigine

[calm mason]

Or just yourself

[tacit bloom]

you wanna know why im spamming

[calm mason]

I'm gonna guess image perms

[tacit bloom]

vc perms

[calm mason]

Which will get your messages deleted and the count reset to 0

[tacit bloom]

how much messages do i have to type for vc perms?

@calm mason

[calm mason]

I don't know the exact count, just make them actual messages and not a spam chain

[lethal ridge]

150 for VC perms, 300 for image/gif perms

you're muted for now. which resets your perms

[sinful vault]

lmfao this is so funny

[little cradle]

much unfortunate

[slim narwhal]

Bingy

[zealous rock]

Lol, congrats on playing yourself

[slim narwhal]

Lmao the magic word to summon choom

[inner roost]

There 3 others?

[random scaffold]

Who can give me the Rick skin in Hollonai?

[calm mason]

At least two others, yes

[small comet]

yeah usually if you play rando there is Dream Nail, Dream Gate and Awoken dream nail, but its progressive so you can pick up Awoken dream nail and it will give you dream nail

[calm mason]

One for Dreamgate + one for Awoken

[small comet]

and there is usually a dupe unless you turned it off specifically

[dim cypress]

?tag skins

[frail nymph]

Custom Knight Skins

• Comprehensive Skin Doc by ColetteMSLP
  • [Public Skins not yet on the Doc](#modding-discussion message)
• Video Tutorial 🎦 by fireb0rn
• [How to use Enemy/Boss Skins](#modding-discussion message)

Other Skin Resources:

• Comprehensive Skin Showcase 🎦 by fireb0rn
• HK Main GDrive
• The White Palace GDrive
• Misc GDrive
• How to Create a Skin

[cedar bobcat]

Guys I've beaten my first randomizer

I got stuck for a while but then managed to get to salubra who sold me the elevator pass which let me get into royal waterways which let me beat flukemarm for wall jump

And I never got swim

[gray haven]

is there any way to reach fungal core without wings or slopeball

or uh shriekpogo ig

[small comet]

no

or room rando

[gray haven]

i am going. to kill someone

random teleport put me in there and its in the spore shroom tablet

[small comet]

glitches would get you there

there's a dupe

or place a dreamgate if yo have one

[gray haven]

yeah ik theres a dupe

ill just find that ig

i just got sporeshroom but tdidnt immmediately put it on

we learn ig

[calm mason]

Wall rando and More Stags also work as ways into Fungal Core

[sick pawn]

Wings, slopeball, VS float, dive float, airwalk, Fungal Elder stag, Plank-Fungal_Core, noclip, doorwarp, intangible shadow... there are plenty of modded or glitched ways, but wings or slopeball are really the only viable arguably legal ways

[knotty hatch]

hi

[valid ginkgo]

What's the mod with toggleable nail upgrades?

[small comet]

randoplus

[slim narwhal]

Toggleble is a stretch

Or is it
In my head toggleble means you can..toggle back and forth
And not once and never again
But yeah randoplus

[slim narwhal]

@calm mason should bingy

[cursive arrow]

Just started my first rando yesterday. The first item I got was the ||mantis claw (Fury of the Fallen check)|| and I proceeded to ||purchase the monarch wings from Cornifer for 75 geo in howling cliffs||

[calm mason]

Good luck looking for Dash all over the place

[calm mason]

This will happen before the Godhome rewrite is finished

[valid ginkgo]

oh no

[slim narwhal]

I'm not sure how to react to that

[calm mason]

Nor am I lmao

[blissful totem]

is there a working lumifly randomizer mod that i can use?

[dense monolith]

Randomizer 4

[mint yew]

Omg! I love shde Sul

[pure tinsel]

[nova shoal]

I just figured out how to use mods

For the first time

Will try randomizer soon

[tardy oak]

bread👍

[earnest token]

Is there a way to view all possible prerequisites to enter a room? I have the rando map mod and it says I can reach a lot of greenpath, but it just says "fungus 101" and stuff.
I know I can't kill the baldur to greenpath due to the rando 4 wiki having some info in tips about what you need to kill them, the only thing I have for it that gets mentioned is dash slash but I only have right dash so I doubt that works

If anyone has any ideas I'd really appreciate it

[calm mason]

What loadout do you have? Movement, charms, stags and enabled skips

[earnest token]

Movement: Right claw and right dash
Charms: Joni's blessing, lifeblood heart, shaman stone
Stags: Just dirtmouth
Enabled skips: Enemy pogos
I also have infected crossroads which means there's an infected vengefly near the baldur, but infectedskips are off
Oh and it's an archipelago, incase there are any known issues with that

Need any more info?

[calm mason]

Well that's puzzling, with infection skips I would say logic expects you to do the infection skip into Fungal and climb from there to GP

But since that's off I am quite curious

[earnest token]

Would goam's monster log be reachable with that skip? Because the map says it isn't reachable while greenpath is

I've also been told that a friend participating in the archipelago had a mismatch of selected settings and actual settings, but idk where I could find the settings that applied, I only know where to find the settings we gave to the game

[calm mason]

It would if you also have Dive, in which case you can just kill the Baldur.

[earnest token]

I can get dive with 1 more rancid egg at grubfather

[past kiln]

Well then. Last rando it took me nearly the whole time to get mantis claw. I start a new rando and it's literally the first check.

[earnest token]

Randomapmod doesn't take unbought shop items into account to say what is reachable and what isnt right?

[calm mason]

Yeah that's correct

That said, settings scrambling in Archi is something I don't know much about

[earnest token]

Thanks for trying to help anyway, not like 1 rancid egg is too unlikely, I just have to wait a bit when we play again tomorrow

[dim cypress]

does archi have random start location? Did you possibly start in cliffs?

[earnest token]

I started in king's pass

[dim cypress]

Is right claw enough to climb the chimney just left of start? I know left claw alone is but I'm not sure about right

[slim narwhal]

Should be with enemy pogos

[earnest token]

I could try that, that does sound like it works

[dim cypress]

I feel like you might only need enemy pogos if trying to do it with wings, but I don't do it half-claw often

[slim narwhal]

Maybe without enemy pogos,deffinetelly with*

[earnest token]

I didn't even know you could get up to cliffs via pass lol

[calm mason]

Ohhh right

Yeah I should play more split claw

I just assumed Left Claw into cliffs was the only way

Because I was thinking of climbing from Dirtmouth

[earnest token]

That does make sense but I can just warp luckily

Have a nice day y'all

[calm mason]

Yeah that's definitely what logic is expecting

Happy randoing!

[slim narwhal]

Fullclaw sounds boring

[calm mason]

Generally I just never have Claw at all until very late game

[pure tinsel]

[slim narwhal]

Fair enough
But still i'd prefer it split

[pure tinsel]

[atomic meteor]

ya'll do any of you know how to add a randomizer to switch?

[swift island]

You unfortunately can't

[atomic meteor]

awh man):

[west ice]

aa

a

[cedar bobcat]

[grave lance]

Mods, crush his skull, thank you.

[cedar bobcat]

Break his kneecaps then glue them back together just to break them again

[tawdry pelican]

[supple quail]

Spamming to gain permissions (especially being entirely offtopic) can lead to mutes, which reset progress towards permissions

[gray haven]

it was at white lady LMAO

first time in the history of ever that was something good

[earnest token]

This did indeed work

[main urchin]

anyone know about any plans for a full silksong item randomizer? ik similar stuff exists but its not even close to what hk has, which is to be expected, but im a bit surprised that like 6 months in there is no silksong randomizer that randomizes everything like progression stuff included

[calm mason]

There is development in progress, but it does take long

[native forge]

7

[swift island]

Note that sending random messages in order to get perms will result in a mute and your message count being reset

[native forge]

Ahhh, I did not know this. That would suck, im gonna not do that

[gray haven]

ok question i just beaten mantis lords, got a check (??) (fragile heart), and im still locked in the arena and gpz's theme is playing

along with zote singing

what is going on

i have some addons on but the only ones i can think of doing anything are access and bench (and flower?)

[slim narwhal]

Thats "mantis respect" randomized

Zote theme is supposed to tell you it works as intended(not a bug) and you have to warp

[calm mason]

Yeah that's an AccessRando feature

Warping out (or dying to the spikes) will make the game normal again

It's just a meme moment

[mortal zenith]

You pulled a classic Zote move and got yourself locked in with people that don't Respect you

[gray haven]

ah i see

ohhh thats why theres a check

i bet theyd respect me if zote would stop singing

[torpid dirge]

shaw

[valid depot]

it's been 8 1/2 hours, and 75 attempts
I know I enabled a lot of connections, but this is crazy

when this completes generation this better be chaotic and soul-crushing

[slim narwhal]

Sounds cooked

[valid depot]

12 hours with 113 attempts, I think I'd better throw in the towel on this attempt
...or I could continue to let in gen overnight

nah I'm gonna tweak settings and try it again later lmao

[dense monolith]

As someone who has only done normal randomizers that finish in less than 3 seconds... wth are you doing to yourself?

[valid ginkgo]

So uhh

what

[calm mason]

This reeks of incompatible settings.

[true slate]

im doing my first randomiser

its pretty fun

but also kind of hard

cause i got a dreamer in ancestral mound so i had to deal with infected crossroads

[valid depot]

that is an excellent point, I think a couple of my connections try to randomize the same thing

second try with a single connection disabled, and it finished generating in 6 minutes with a single attempt

I need to read the mod descriptions better

[earnest token]

In both my rando runs so far I got a dreamer before I did false knight

[calm mason]

Out of curiosity, what did you disable that you believe caused conflict?

[slim narwhal]

Im also curious now

[slim narwhal]

But yeah something like 50(or frankly 40) attempts is not worth continuing

[slim narwhal]

Hm could it be the morestags + start location stuff math was complaining about

[valid depot]

CorpseDreamRando; I think it conflicted with RandoPlus because they both seemed to randomize miscellaneous dream essence checks

tbh I left it generating while I was at work yesterday with the hope that it would be done by the time I got home

[slim narwhal]

That doesnt sound right
The only problem cdr has is with lore rando,and pretty sure that has been resolved already

[calm mason]

This could be, but I'd only expect it to make impossible generation with somewhat specific settings, but it feels more likely than CDR/RandoPlus

[sick pawn]

The MoreStags issue only really happens if you have very little enabled and cannot access a stag from start. Randomizing skills should fix that

[calm mason]

We love this Salubra location

[gray haven]

you cannot possibly be serious

[pale ledge]

wait you can randomize salubra location?!??!

[dim cypress]

Yup, Vendor Rando

[pale ledge]

must add muahahahahaha

[calm mason]

Yeah, only make sure it's not a Multiworld seed and vendors spots can be randomized

[dim cypress]

is that something that could possibly fixed with injectors? Like would an injector be able to guarantee a placement in your own world? I guess custom contraint would be the one but I dunno if that can work that way.

[calm mason]

I'm not sure, I wouldn't rule it out but not sure it works either

[inner prism]

H

H

[vernal moss]

well this is random

[inner prism]

Help 💔💔💔

[dim cypress]

if you have a question ask it, otherwise you're likely to get muted for spamming

[inner prism]

How did it go from absolute radiance?

😭

[inner prism]

Sorry.

I'm going to delete the messages, sorry.

[vernal moss]

I thought the randomizer only applied to in game, didn't know it could affect discord chat too

[covert remnant]

i wish everyone thought that way

[turbid owl]

anyone wanna do an archipelago multiworld?

[quasi gale]

i would but i have no idea how @turbid owl

[compact wren]

anyone know how to randomize notch costs for charms but not the charm settings?

it used to work but now it doesnt

i forgot how

[high juniper]

Notch costs would be in the Miscellaneous settings category and random charm effects are part of the Charm Changer Rando connection

[compact wren]

thats what i thought, but with charm changer off and notch costs on, it tells me a random notch cost in the pickup prompt but doesnt update the charm

[mortal zenith]

Can you explain more of what you're talking about? What you're describing as is doesn't make any sense to me

[compact wren]

when I pick up the charm it says like “spore shroom [4]” but when i go to a bench and put the charm on it has the default notch cost

(sorry for not being clear, I have a bad migraine atm and im not thinking very clearly)

[gray haven]

if i were to play rando with enemy rando what settings need to be on/off?

[dim cypress]

?tag enemyrando

[frail nymph]

Enemy Randomizer FAQ

Enemy Randomizer is the mod that randomizes Bosses and Enemies. It is considered in Alpha, so you may run into problems when using it, and having DebugMod installed is recommended.

All Enemies are the same‽

The settings do not properly initialize at this time, so you'll need to Pause > Options > Mods > Enemy Randomizer > Modules and turn each module OFF and then back ON.

I only want Bosses shuffled!

You can choose which enemies are shuffled in the mod's menu. The pins of the Enemy Randomizer channel has a list of the names of bosses, as well as a spreadsheet of all enemy names.

Can I use it with Randomizer 4?

You can, but Enemy Randomizer doesn't make changes to the logic, so it's not recommended to use Skips that are enemy related. Additionally, items that come from Enemies may not spawn correctly.

[mortal zenith]

You'll probably want to make a #1057825333841240104 post including all of the required info from #1090079233520451714 , especially the Modlog

[wicked trench]

Is there an "official" item randomiser for silksong? I tried the "HKS Item Randomizer" mod and it didn't seem to work

or maybe I'm just dumb

[swift island]

Not yet, it's still in development

[gray haven]

why does enemy rando keep trying to change itself back to default settings every time i change it

every time i turn this off it immediately flip itself back on

[gray haven]

also what are these two? idt theyre on the enemy alias doc

[mortal zenith]

this shoudn't matter. I imagine it's wonky because it's probably not meant to be an "On Off" button at all lol

[wild halo]

m pretty sure a new rando for silksong that actually works dropped

@dim cypress

[dim cypress]

Read the description lmao

And please don't ping me

[wild halo]

idk it works for me

mb sorry bro

[dim cypress]

Then consider yourself lucky

[wild halo]

ok

[dim cypress]

The HK rando devs are working on a rando that doesn't expect itself to softlock & has proper logic

[calm mason]

And that supports randomizing dumb stuff for when people decide that randomizing the color, BGM and alphabet is a wise move

Gotta say, I'm really outdated on its current state though, been slacking with Silksong in general

[supple quail]

wow that's a beautiful github page. an mp4 covering them moving around their settings menu, a readme that says "Outdated", a manifest, and a dll [with the manifest and dll being 0.1.0]

[calm mason]

But we should totally randomize the Moss Grotto cutscenes

So you don't have a slow start each time you do Moss Grotto + you can randomly get slowed down when ambushed by three void enemies

[supple quail]

that's genius

[sick pawn]

During my casual playthrough, I definitely wanted to randomize the falling boulders

[covert remnant]

that’s sick

[calm mason]

Ohhh the Hunter March traps

Yeah there's a lot of potential

[wicked gate]

.

[covert remnant]

can’t wait until individual bouncy balloons in greymoor are randoed

[arctic dust]

can't wait to get "Not a Bench" with bench rando

bonus points if you have cursed masks and die when sitting on it

[calm mason]

Bilewater bench actually being a bench

[tawny whale]

woah

[half glade]

Question: Does Randomizer 4 have options for different goals? I'm not seeing anything like that in the settings, but I'd like to try and do a Radiance run if I can

[swift island]

Randomizer 4 doesn't have goals at all, your goal is what you want it to be. its logic only ensures that all checks are obtainable

[half glade]

Oh I see, I didn't realize it just made all checks obtainable. Thanks!

[swift island]

That being said if you want specific goals then you can do bingos, actual bingo players will be able to provide more details than I can

[earnest token]

Randomizing the alphabet is crazy

That's like tunic but easier

[slim narwhal]

Bingo can be vanilla and rando
Example goals(with connections,without bingo):
Thk ending
True ending
P5 ending
+mr mushroom
100%(all checks/transitions)

Vanilla 112(rando overrides % tracker tho so this like sucks probably)

All charms?
Extra rando victory conditions
Acess rando adds hk chains which kinda fits into this

Thats all i could think of

As 99% of my bingo games are vanilla idrk much about rando bingy,but
You can also: install bingy mods,generate a card with the item rando(or however its called profile(or frankly any profile)),and have your end goals be three line,blackout,or really whatever the hell you want

And this is without custom or rando bingo goals
So yeah..possibillities are endless.

[mortal zenith]

Collecting a check causing a boulder to fall on you is going to be hell lmao.
All of the fun of Ouchy Goam Rock in HK

[calm mason]

Rando bingy is very much similar, you find movement, do goals and win.

[tribal raft]

Yall cna I get a randomized on my nintendo switch 2 for silksong?

?

[mortal zenith]

No, as Silksong modding is not supported on Consoles

But also No, as there isn't a proper randomizer out yet

There's a handful of janky ones, but they all either don't ranodmize much, or break easily and are logicless

[opaque thicket]

im doing a hollow knight randomizer and the mantis claw is in sheos room and im pretty sure getting there requires the mantis claw is there any way to get there without cheating

pls help meeeeee

[supple quail]

You could have dupes on, in which case there are other mantis claws

[opaque thicket]

how do i check that

[supple quail]

Otherwise, I think you can just do a bunch of enemy pogos (which would be made substantailly nicer with wings)

[calm mason]

Nah the Sheo room clawless is absurdly cursed

It's definitely a duplicaye

[supple quail]

Wait sheo not oro/mato yeahhh sheo not doing clawless

I got confused

then yeah definitely duplicate

[opaque thicket]

ok thanks

wait im looking at the rando map and theres like a ton of mantis claw icons idk if theyre all real or like some are different items

[supple quail]

Unless you turned on spoilers in the map, the map shouldn't be showing you where items are

It'd show you what those items originally were

[opaque thicket]

oh

[dim cypress]

The claw icon is use for all Skills

So any place that originally had a skill - like Great Slash- will show on the map as claw

[calm mason]

Yeah just look for white pins to know what is considered to be reachable.

And that will eventually give you useful stuff that unlocks what you can't get yet

[opaque thicket]

oh

[celest mist]

do y'all have a shareable settings code for rando 4?

[covert remnant]

wdym

[quick valley]

?

[celest mist]

you can have a preset in rando 4

and you can get a code of it so other people can have your same settings by copying it

fireb0ns video is old though so his code doen't work cause it is an older version

[slow zephyr]

Is it the thing where it writes 4 keywords on the right? Or is it something else?
I've been looking for a hard rando as well
Non cursed though

[supple quail]

the question is "why do you want one, you could just pick your own settings"

and those 4 keywords are basically a checksum (if you're manually trying to make sure both people are on the same settings, you can confirm with that)

[slow zephyr]

Ok i see
Ty

I really enjoyed doing room randos
It's really fun, especially without the map

But it takes me a long time

[distant marlin]

how do i install randomizer in hk?

i searched on youtube and google but all were old

smth like 4 years ago

[frail nymph]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/985794659894829117/1039743031043178606/pins2.png?ex=65b083a8&is=659e0ea8&hm=99e49a3bf5bf82b5411cfab9c1b9b6163246c36233a3d1ff982e4c5dbcc2cb4c&

[calm mason]

Install Lumafly, downpatch the game and get Randomizer 4.

[winter cloud]

hi

[jaunty helm]

Hii

[eager temple]

Hi

[versed cloud]

hi

[slow quest]

Hi

[tawny kernel]

Hi guys

[dim cypress]

... why is the rando channel turning into the "hi" channel?

[tawny kernel]

Hi Collette

[mortal zenith]

This is the new wave bot

[dim cypress]

I forgot about the waves lmao

[slim narwhal]

🌊

[frail coral]

am I able to do a rando if I play on nintendo switch only

[supple quail]

Mods do not function on consoles, no

[gray haven]

...i take it this is another enemy randomizer special?

[supple quail]

no that's basegame

[gray haven]

ah. mustve missed it the first time

[valid ginkgo]

came back here after a few minutes

[vagrant wave]

randomizer is fun

my question is how hard are the skip options when you configure the randomizer

cause i have that on casual atm but i may wanna try some of the skip stuff

[valid ginkgo]

you can try switching on background object pogos

and enemy pogos if you want

[vagrant wave]

might try that for my next randomizer then

also i love grubberfly ellergy charm as it allows u to kill boulders without spirit

just great for a rando

could probably also add shade skip for my next one too

[valid ginkgo]

what counts as a "precise movement" skip?

[covert remnant]

like this

itemless

[vagrant wave]

i think that might also include acid skips with heart?

[valid ginkgo]

and proficient combat is just hard bosses?

[covert remnant]

nope, i don’t know how many other ways it can surface but i know that you need proficient combat for downslash only shrumals to be in logic

[robust peak]

some of them require coyote jumps, where you jump off a ledge within a two frame window of walking off of it. for example dashless sporg relic in fungal wastes

[robust peak]

acid skips are a separate skip category

[calm mason]

Thwy vary. Of course, you can do skips even with them diaabled, but enabling a few of them at a time is a good way of learning some.

[mortal zenith]

Iirc this one also has a terrible sub-pixel-alignment trap (as in accidentally hugging a specific spot makes it significantly harder to do)

[dim cypress]

<@&283547423706447872> uhhh... scam fortune telling?

[deft lake]

uh

please dont fortune tell?

[dim cypress]

They also posted in one of the help posts??

[calm mason]

Your future is getting Mantis Claw at Weathered Mask

Have a good day

[narrow atlas]

@fair island I CANT CHAT

[fair island]

Ok

[narrow atlas]

go to google chat

we can talk there

[narrow atlas]

it says i have limited restrictions or smth

[mortal zenith]

This channel is specifically for Hollow Knight / Silksong related Randomizer. Please don't post about other things here

[coarse terrace]

Lol

[tall hill]

hello

[neat sorrel]

Guys pls tell me your most cursed hollow knight enemies randomizer run pls im bored

[violet spire]

i got absolute radiance from the first crawlid

[static granite]

This is journal rando not enemy rando, but one time upslash was at Radiance hunter notes for me

[uneven turret]

room rando is so cursed lol

[slow zephyr]

I did my first rando as a room rando, ran around for 40 hours and i still don't have claw. That save file is still there. I'll finish it someday. As i gain experience with all the item locations I'll be able to find more items.

But yeah
Not finding claw is the most cursed thing ever

[calm mason]

Yeah room rando as a first experience is quite cursed

[dim cypress]

Room rando is only cursed if you refuse to use mapmod IMO

[thin epoch]

real cursed room rando is one that doesn't generate
-# (i've spent 100 hours in first two weeks after trtr released trying to generate a single seed before i gave up)

[supple quail]

I mean at that point you probably just have some incompatable connections

[thin epoch]

it was (and still is) generating without trtr

all i wanted is trtr connection hell

[calm mason]

Trtr connection hell is indeed real cursed

[thin epoch]

but waiting for 2 hours per attempt is pain

[dim cypress]

I could send you my icdl file if you want madine

[calm mason]

Yep

[dim cypress]

Might not have everything you want but its like 11.6k checks iirc

[thin epoch]

if it's this one #822832351797182514 message i have it

issue is sbrco, i need sbrco-trtr connection hell

[dim cypress]

Ahh, good luck then!

For my gen I actually left it run overnight. Then it ended up taking less time than some i had reset, but at least I wasn't sitting there watching it tick up the whole time lol

[thin epoch]

i have screenshot of one of my "left overnight" attempts, 21 hours
-# aaand i can't post here as i don't have perms

[dim cypress]

When I was struggling mathgeek sent me a beta trtr supposed to handle check hell better, but I would assume those changes have been pushed to the public branch now. It's just a very tricky connection to get going but its worth it

[slim narwhal]

Oh we finally need perms here huh

[vital sequoia]

Surely plando goes here, I was doing a glitched plando that didn't have claw in it. Stuff got complicated

[mortal zenith]

If you make a modmail some mod will surely give you the perms

[slim narwhal]

Youre apparently 74 messages off

[mortal zenith]

Oh I thought you would have 300 but just some older ones

[thin epoch]

well, i guessed we do, as i can "upload file" in hk-help but not here

[vital sequoia]

I think help is exempt no?

[mortal zenith]

Yes

[slim narwhal]

Nah she just types slow due to a condition i think,and just rarely

[vital sequoia]

Why do I know exempt?

[slim narwhal]

Because #speedrunning was also excluded

What are you doing here anyway💀

[supple quail]

I don't think speedrunning is still excluded actually

[vital sequoia]

No I mean the word. I'm not native English so when did I learn that lol

[vital sequoia]

I was thinking about playing some glitched rando

[slim narwhal]

You should do no logic then

[valid ginkgo]

We need glitch rando connections

[slim narwhal]

Oh yeah i learnt it when we got the perms introduced lmao

Learned

Idk

[vital sequoia]

What items should a randomize? What is like a low ish amount that isn't just the skills and upgrades?

[valid ginkgo]

Rocks

Lore if you want

[vital sequoia]

What would this do?

[slim narwhal]

My basic seed is 1k items so idk what you want to hear

But for glitched i think bwr would be cool

Maybe also lever

[vital sequoia]

I'm also conflicted between doing 1028 or 1578

bwr

[valid ginkgo]

Is rando on 1028

[vital sequoia]

??

[slim narwhal]

Aint no way there are mods on 1028 what

[valid ginkgo]

Breakable wall rando

[vital sequoia]

Yes

[valid ginkgo]

What

[slim narwhal]

WHAT

[valid ginkgo]

Who

[vital sequoia]

Not sure how advanced it is but it does exist

[slim narwhal]

What

[calm mason]

Yeah there is a rando for 1.028 I think

[valid ginkgo]

MMS rando

[vital sequoia]

I mean actually it should be quite advanced I believe we have backported a new ish one.

I think we have an old logic less one too

[calm mason]

It's possible

I haven't played it

[slim narwhal]

Well i dont think you can run connections on 1028 and qol exists

But thats crazy

[vital sequoia]

Idk how to utilice igmms for other stuff than grub bully lol

And getting vs

[valid ginkgo]

Wait what

[vital sequoia]

There is a igmms dupe to vs

Basically load Dirthmouth hardsave and then enter the load behind Cornifier

[slim narwhal]

Does this imply itemless godhome(godseeker) mms or some random bs which basically means not godhome mms

[vital sequoia]

Secound

[vital sequoia]

https://youtu.be/iQomZ4JoEks?t=537&is=qlZAd60aUYvQ4lfs

[vital sequoia]

Godhome doesn't exist on 1028

[serene hull]

fat

[lucid wave]

Just message me directly with your favorite color I will let you know about your life and you relationship, future, career✨✨

[slim narwhal]

Text randomizer

[calm mason]

Future randomizer

[slim narwhal]

hooly

that sucks

it is basically life tho
you choose a route,get checks,and theres still a chance at the end of the chain there's 1 geo

[old tusk]

What 💀 well now i gotta test this

I will report back with results

[slow zephyr]

Oof

[lucid wave]

Just message me directly with your favorite color I will let you know about your life and you relationship, future, career✨✨

[gaunt yacht]

Soooo, I think i made a misake
I finished that parkor in lava after gianing the last ability '' silk soar '', & i'm still in Act 2
what should i do next??????

where should i go
i did defeated the grandmother silk & still in act 2
i know i need to do all the missions to get in act 3, but i mean i have nothing except the missions for now roght?

[old tusk]

?

Do you mean the lava escape in Far Fields? Becauze that's different from the climb after Silk Soar

[old tusk]

Here are the results

[gray haven]

lavender is a good color 👍

[old tusk]

[empty tulip]

I highly doubt it.

[manic olive]

?

[gaunt yacht]

not far field escape, but after gaining silk soar

[old tusk]

..in act 2?

[robust peak]

what does this have to do with randomizer

[gaunt yacht]

bro i just want to know wha should i do next

[gaunt yacht]

i didn't notice i wrote this until now
thought it was the general chat

[old tusk]

i'm just genuinely confused about how you did lava escape in act 2

[supple quail]

you could do it with glitches

[old tusk]

on older patches yeah

[gaunt yacht]

i have no idea how i did it

but i just did it
still in act 2

[calm mason]

Was expecting it to be one of the current Silksong randos, because I don't see how you accidentally go into Abyss on act 2

[robust peak]

either mods, glitches, or ragebaiting

[gaunt yacht]

i swear i'm still in act 2 without any mods
i donno if that's a glitch or what but id do have silk soar and went to abyss

[calm mason]

Eh in any case, just do quests, get all maps and rescue fleas and you'll find your way into it.

[pale dagger]

Started a new HK rando today. Still have the mailed to fight, but... suggestions on how to progress with crystal heart instead of a spell or any other movement option?

*mawlek

[swift island]

You should get RandoMapMod, which shows which checks you can reach on your map and can give hints if needed

[pale dagger]

I feel like it's installed already? But I don't have a map screen yet because I haven't bought any maps.

[dim cypress]

Did you enable mapmod? It gives all maps with default settings

[pale dagger]

...maybe? Probably not if maps are randomized

I'll be more careful with a new seed, maybe...

[dim cypress]

You can check on your pause menu. Mapmod enable button (or settings if already on) are at the lower left

[lucid wave]

Just message me directly with your favorite color I will let you know about your life and you relationship, future, career✨✨

[dim cypress]

<@&283547423706447872> this fortune teller is in here like every day ...

(They do seem to actually give fortunes but it feels very spammy)

[deft lake]

alright

[normal totem]

first rando clear

[sacred delta]

No Logic, extra charms + nail artifacts, basically almost everything randomized completed

Passed most of the time without claw, lost hope when I didn't see awoken dream nail/herrah

Then remembered I hadn't completed soul sanctum

build is funny