#speedrunning

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mental python
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of course

royal stirrup
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that's a bit rude

rapid hare
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ok

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how the hell do you explosion pogo

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ive done it first try before and now i cant

final elk
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Patch?

sage moon
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Patch?

finite heart
mental python
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I ain't a pro

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I can do it but it's still a challenge

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Not shade dash, regular dash

knotty vigil
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anyone wanna race P5??????

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???????

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or path of pain

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or pain of the path

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or low% godhome?

stable quarry
summer bear
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Help

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How can I solve that

stable quarry
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Have you tried deleating HK and reinstalling?

summer bear
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Can I downpatch with other method?

stable quarry
stable quarry
summer bear
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How?

stable quarry
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Guide^^^

summer bear
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Guide what?

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Where is it?

stable quarry
summer bear
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Ohh

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Im blind xdd

stable quarry
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Good luck

summer bear
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can I show livesplit on top of hollow knight?

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fullscreen

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?

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<@&284848710960021504>

knotty vigil
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go ask in the speedrunning server bruh

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and no need to ping staff for that

cerulean frigate
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do runners use nail 3 for pantheon bindings speedruns? also wonder if anyones attempted nail 2 speedruns for p3 and p4, its prob still slower but im curious by how much

mental python
steady lynx
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I'm pretty sure Speedrun staff only pings Xero

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Maybe May

knotty vigil
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i think somni still has it

analog monolith
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nail 2 runs probably would be slightly slower but not by a lot, since a lot of the damage dealt comes from spells

cerulean frigate
analog monolith
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pantheon bosses do not scale with nail upgrades

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only overworld

cerulean frigate
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ohh gotcha\

analog monolith
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(also pls turn off pings when replying thanku)

cerulean frigate
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(how do I do that)

analog monolith
cerulean frigate
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gotcha, ty!

knotty vigil
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why must he turn them off
You are present in the chat are you nothornet420

analog monolith
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bc it's annoying

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and unneeded

fallow fable
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do anyone know how to set up livesplit to make it room transition i wana do speedkill of a boss

steady lynx
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In settings on

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any transition (any) should be a trigger

fallow fable
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@steady lynx where

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in settings?

steady lynx
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edit splits

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Do you have the autosplitter activated?

fallow fable
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i cant click on the settings

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whats autosplitter

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how do i get it

steady lynx
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Set Game Name to Hollow Knight and it should pop up as option

fallow fable
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this?

steady lynx
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Press Activate

fallow fable
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do i click activate?

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done

steady lynx
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Press the settings button

fallow fable
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ye

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oh i see start triggering auto spliy

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this works?

steady lynx
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Idk how quickkills are timed

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That should start the timer whenever you enter any loading zone

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You're done there, now right click the base livesplit window, hover "Compare Against" and click "Game Time"

fallow fable
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how do i remove these long empty slots

steady lynx
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Right click, "Edit Layout..."

fallow fable
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ye

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i did

steady lynx
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Press "Subsplits" and press the big minus

fallow fable
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done

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thanks

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wait i got into a fight andbit didnt start timer

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i did this

steady lynx
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Try pressing add split, it might need a split to start at all

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Wait, are you on Windows?

fallow fable
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yes

steady lynx
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Oh you should probably press save splits, that might be a good idea

fallow fable
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i did save split

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but after adding in a new split the timer still dont start once i entered a biss

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boss

steady lynx
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I'll have to ask the devs of the autosplitter real quick then

fallow fable
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oh alr

steady lynx
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Restart both livesplit and the game

fallow fable
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ok

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emm i restarted game and livesplitbstill dont time it

analog monolith
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try changing the "Abyss Shriek (Skill)" autosplit to "Manual Split" i think it's called

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thatll prevent it from splitting automatically, and it'll split whenever you split it

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though yes it does mean it wont autosplit

plucky rune
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Guys anyone know how to put 2 different versions of hollow knight on steam?

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i need to create a version of the game for speedrun

steady lynx
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Should be in the downpatch guide on src

plucky rune
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what is src ?

steady lynx
plucky rune
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ahhhhh

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thaks

steady lynx
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Just survive past the walls of ads and advertising to give the owners money

mental python
toxic sedge
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guys

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is 42 minutes a good time for Any% NMG?

digital jewel
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yes

toxic sedge
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still improving but thats one of my best times

tepid ember
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@ivory bridge we talked in blue's chat earlier, ive routed gorb%, got a 24min 28s run. basically go low% route to claw and then do a dashless shade skip to d nail. also stag to dirtmouth from resting grounds bc you need the salubra bench so you cant s and q to dirtmouth after dnail

weary smelt
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real time or game time?

final elk
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That’s the same thing roughly

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Wait I’m wrong

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Ignore me momentarily being dumb

ivory bridge
grizzled plinth
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hey there, had a quick question about Steam beta downpatching. Whenever I downpatch through steam the game lags severely when particle effects happen. Have played for 200hrs and problem only occurs when the game is "downpatched." fix/explanation? thank you

final elk
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Yeah that’s because earlier patches are wildly unoptimized as far as resource usage is

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Not really any fix

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Except get a better pc or run latest patch

plain mesa
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hey, got a question, so for speedrunning a lot of people use the grimm troupe patch, but how do I get into that patch? using steam btw

final elk
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Go into properties then betas then choose 1221

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Or something like that

plain mesa
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thanks!

quick hawk
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wow. After playing hk for over 2 years I finally decide to start speed running... Done in under an hour

toxic sedge
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now i just did 41 min 10 secs xd

knotty vigil
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ive only done 3 speedruns

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just for achievements

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i think my best time was around 2and a half hours

toxic sedge
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i still have to improve the 3 bossfights i have in the run

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watchers knight, uumuu and THK

tepid ember
weary smelt
toxic sedge
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but i think the wr is 33:07 right?

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still far away

mental python
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This is way better than before where I was 5:30 through the run.

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and now I will take a break before p5 because I have not had breakfast

vagrant warren
toxic sedge
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ye i saw Ax2u going sub 33, but i didnt see it was nearly sub 32 jesus

inner coyote
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any tips on qga?

toxic sedge
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i think its the same from uumuu skip

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u just have to time it pretty well

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and dont go crazy spamming the jump button

austere flume
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its just annoying af to switch between scarab moddable public beta and speedrun patch

steady lynx
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This person is 100% correct, there's no way to do something like the picture here and have more than one install of the game ready to boot

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(Old picture btw, I have way more installs now)

mental python
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jeez I didn't even notice I did p5 in 31 minutes

coral shore
steady lynx
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This is what it looks like now, every full release I could bother to get

weary root
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need to get some 1.5.75 up in there gusten

stable quarry
stable quarry
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Hard milestone to break.

weary root
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the first 32 was over two years ago now

steady lynx
steady lynx
slate fulcrum
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how is the split for entering path of pain called?

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i can't find it

potent sky
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Hey, can you still do all of the tricks necessary to beat the game in the latest version? Like all the acid skips, spike tunnel things, etc...

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And inventory drops

steady lynx
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Only thing really lost in later patches is lever skips, everything else should be doable

potent sky
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Ok, thank you, have a nice day

steady lynx
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Oh inventory drops are a bit different but doable as well

tawdry marten
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you can't skip ancestral mound because of the changes to invdrop

steady lynx
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You can still skip mound with an interaction storage on the bench so no real loss

true palm
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you can skip ancestral mound with qms inv storage into warp cancel

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which allows you to effectively inventory drop like before

livid heath
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First run ever

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good god that was a long time

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i cant submit the run because I forgot to fucking record

grizzled plinth
merry ruin
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ive got a faster speedrun then pest but i cant submit it cos i dont have a vid

steady lynx
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You'll have to compete with the 7 or so people who already said something like that this year

merry ruin
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i got 20 min

steady lynx
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Didn't even beat Krythom

mental python
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on which category

knotty vigil
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probably nmms

kind schooner
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i think i found something to replace shade skip

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it uses a glitch that i haven't really seen ever used before

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i call it bench jump

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basically

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when the prompt for the bench shows up

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you can dash away and activate it at the same time

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if you time it right

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the rest prompt will still be there

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if you activate it, you will teleport to the bench

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but, if you are higher or lower than the bench, it teleports you to the bench's location, but with you still at the height you were at before

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so, you can end up under or above the bench, floating, having the game think you are on a bench

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i used this glitch, then jumped down to the pit next to salubra's shop

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i activated it, and clipped to the underside of the bench

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then i used mantis claw to jump up to the entrance to blue lake

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if you do it correctly, you can jump to just the right position where you can touch the doorway to blue lake

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i also found this out because i didn't know how to do shade skip lmao

true palm
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this is delayed interaction

stuck raptor
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That's considered a major glitch.

true palm
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its banned

kind schooner
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damn

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aight

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guess i discovered another glitch on my own

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fuck

true palm
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you can use it to do a lot of cool things, like get into shade soul

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and it used to be used to skip mound on 1.4

kind schooner
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damn i feel stupid now

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my bad

true palm
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nah ur all good

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people discovering major glitches on their own is normal

kind schooner
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aight

true palm
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but generally anything that big where ur sequence breaking and stuff using glitches is gonna be major

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that being said if you find something you think we might not know about, you can still share it, since glitched runners might be able to use it

kind schooner
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k

wicked berry
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can someone help me, im starting to speedrun and my mouse wont work when in hollow knight im using patch 1.2.2.1

formal bough
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ah you need blue.exe

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brb finding that

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#mouse #russian hacks #bindings #blue.exe
Updated the program I wrote for Blue to fix mouse bindings. This version includes right mouse button as well. Left click emits "H", right click emits "T", so just bind actions you want on left and right buttons to "h" and "t" and you're gtg
Original post by Valignatev

wicked berry
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i got it to work with the side buttons

hollow cedar
steady lynx
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We're waiting to verify your low% AG rekky until we figure out where to put old any% AG

hollow cedar
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Oh lmfao I mean… nowhere?

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Or in any%

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I wish src let us order by % as well

steady lynx
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Trying to get Xero to just quickly archive the 2% state of the board before switching it all to 1%

hollow cedar
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let me know if you need to know what happens in the black screens

steady lynx
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Ah no

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Jenkar verified it, so I trust they know what was going on

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Jenkar is pretty specialised in verifying glitched runs, I just stick to main board NMG

hollow cedar
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It's just some out of bounds black screen floating down stuff, could see it being hard to understand

steady lynx
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I've gotten more familiar with how the glitches work and what's going on, just more comfortable running NMG and those two hyper optimal glitched categories i did really serious runs in and got rekky

tidal crystal
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Any tips for pulling off QGA skip more consistently

tepid ember
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Practicing my QGA (on my main file) in advance of some full game runs because I kinda need it. I started adding this fireball stall into the setup and it's been making the skip well not free by any means but significantly easier for me. It lets me dash off the ledge and stay close to the lake instead of jumping into the air and also gives me a l...

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charred dragon
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guys to reach Herrah do I need monarch wings?

steady lynx
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No

stable quarry
charred dragon
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I have passed through the mantis village and I am going to Herrah but there is a platform i cant reach

digital jewel
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show it?

charred dragon
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its too hig

digital jewel
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the correct path is to your right

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and then up

charred dragon
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its an impasse

digital jewel
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🗿

steady lynx
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Why are you even asking this here?

charred dragon
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cause im doing a speedrun

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btw i was on the wrong way

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i thought that i needed monarch wings

stable quarry
sly tulip
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i go there

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because spore shroom route

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cuz 1432 thk

charred dragon
stable quarry
charred dragon
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yeah i've just completed it in 3 hours

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thank you all for the help

stable quarry
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How was your route?

stable quarry
vale crest
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Who was thjat????

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omg!

steady lynx
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<@&283547423706447872> I have no idea if I should ping you for this but you get a ping anyway

slim oxide
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?

steady lynx
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Someone posting what looked like a phone number

charred dragon
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i don't appreciate speedruns

lunar breach
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is this good for a first time?

digital jewel
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yes

knotty vigil
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Não sei inglês to fudida aqui kkkkkk

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Que odio

steady lynx
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This is an English discord server, please speak English

rapid thicket
thorny kraken
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I was told this is the best place to put this, so here we go.

I tried a speedrun of low%, and let my chat help me out. I even edited it down for your viewing pleasure!

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limpid veldt
stiff delta
steady lynx
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That feels a bit like self promo to me

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But what do I know

cobalt helm
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Guys lurien skip is so harddd and also how tf am i gonna do wathcer knights with base nail? Should i do something first? I dont know what to do

cobalt helm
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@stable quarry Ok, thank you!

clear rampart
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Once you get used to it it's not bad :)

round bobcat
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should i speedrun, like is it fun at all?

weary smelt
final elk
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I’m Just an il runner though so what do I know

knotty vigil
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how do i downpatch?

final elk
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Are you on steam

knotty vigil
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ye

final elk
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Go into properties, betas, then choose the one you want (1221 most likely)

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Or something like that

pure epoch
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speed

arctic orbit
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Most of the time

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But honestly

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You’re kind of asking the wrong people

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We’ve done this shit for ages

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And almost never questioned if it’s fun or not

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You gotta be dedicated to speedrun

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It’s a ton of practice

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Although it seems you’re used to a ton of practice, judging by your username

austere flume
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i quit speedrunning watcher knights are too hard for me fr

stable quarry
austere flume
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Its just with speedrunning gear

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Even with nail upgrade

steady lynx
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Practicing on Radiant is an awful idea

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Practicing at all might be a good idea

coral shore
# austere flume i quit speedrunning watcher knights are too hard for me fr

Just so you know, any% nmg isn't the only speedrunning category. Like, there are categories like 112% APB that go to watcher knight with like, top gear possible (and also flukes). There also are categories that don't do watcher knights at all, like meme categories, or most of glitched categories. So while WK fight can be a reason to quit any% nmg or te nmg, it's not a reason to quit speedrunning

steady lynx
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There's 106% that just instakills WK before they can move

coral shore
steady lynx
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Just got hella whiplash from that

coral shore
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from 106?

steady lynx
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No, we're so far in time so people have never seen a 106 run

coral shore
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Oh. Well, I actually have never seen a lot of runs. Like, I also never fully watched a 112 run, so... I guess I should just sit and watch some fun cats

coral shore
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kill all 6 at once

steady lynx
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1114 is just the God patch for glitches that aren't soob

coral shore
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Yeah. I really hope that when I go back to my pc i can actually do stuff on that patch. Rn it's kinda bad because of fps

steady lynx
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The ghusk 6k+ geo kill is forever the best thing in any run

coral shore
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So true bestie

thorny kraken
hollow cedar
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1114 WK are unironically harder than in 106, because optimally you don’t have invuln and you’re overcharmed and you have to not die to the 5 at once before the gate opens

coral shore
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Oh, shit. They still spawn, you just don't have to kill all of them?

zealous ivy
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Ive got an idea for a meme run
SHAW-less % beat hornet 1 (and maybe 2) without her screaming SHAW

split snow
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In Steel Soul, I think its not bad at all

quartz rover
stable quarry
daring cairn
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And if so, can they either put me in touch with them, or can someone make a guide for current patch runs?

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Not all of the tricks in the guide are applicable on current patch, and I play on switch

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Not thinking of submitting any runs, but I want to try and apply speedrunning strats in order to get the achievements, because then I would be rather proud of myself

digital jewel
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guides are written by lots of different people

daring cairn
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This is the guide I was talking about

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Does anyone have a text guide like this for switch runs? Because that'd be super helpful

digital jewel
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<@&283547423706447872>

south herald
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Thanks

vagrant warren
daring cairn
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Aight cool thanks

vagrant warren
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Real Time vs PC which uses loadless time

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... so? If they try to submit it they'll be caught. If not whatifShrug

knotty vigil
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Is hour and 3 min a good run?

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After 44 tries its best

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My pb that it

stuck raptor
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sure

knotty vigil
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?

livid brook
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rocker leg

digital jewel
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true

honest cape
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I really want to learn to speed run but I only have this game on my switch sobbbbbbbb

final elk
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There are switch leaderboards

trim torrent
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can someone point me in the direction of the instructions for downpatching hk on steam? A little lost

final elk
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It’s really simple, right click, properties, public betas, probably 1221

trim torrent
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need a beta code for that

formal bough
trim torrent
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nvr mind lol, was already downloading in the background

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ty

thorny herald
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i got 6.25hrs on my second run

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that was pretty cool

languid isle
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finished my first properly recorded and timed speedrun!! Got a time of 1hr07mins but forgot the route which lost me a bit of time lol

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this was for Any% NMG btw

languid isle
ruby tulip
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nice! do you have a goal time in mind?

sullen nacelle
languid isle
languid isle
ruby tulip
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you jumped a bit early i think

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honestly hard for me to say exactly bc i do it based off vibes lmfaoo. i usually stay in the center of that platform up until i go for it and i haven’t missed it yet

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although i only started doing it recently. anyway, good job regardless!! you can easily and quickly reach sub-hour

languid isle
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thanks!

past edge
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im watching now

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u did QGA route?

past edge
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but normally u can leave with 3:16

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in current patch

languid isle
past edge
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try master deepnest patch

languid isle
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Ok thanks for the advice

past edge
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usually QGA is the most boring skip to do, I know that in 1.2 it is a much more agile route, but at first it's very tiring to lose several and several runs for a measly skip.

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now i can see u doing u speedrun in 1.2

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so u can push more than me

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and its is good

languid isle
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Thanks

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I had a massive mental blank when going to fog canyon and just completely forgot where the acid skip room was lol. It wasted so much time

past edge
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yeah

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and it is hard to do in first try

languid isle
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Yeah normally I am fine when practicing but I just couldn't get it. Probably the nerves

past edge
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in training it rarely goes wrong, but at the time of the run everything bad happens

languid isle
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Yeah that's just how it be

past edge
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Yesterday i did my PB and im done with speedruns

languid isle
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Damn what did you get?

past edge
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sub 39

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current patch

languid isle
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Nice job

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I wish I could be that good lol

past edge
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u can!!

languid isle
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Btw I like the main menu background what is it?

past edge
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1.2 is the fastest patch ever

past edge
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achievement*

languid isle
past edge
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its a pretty challenge but

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I think playing the vanilla game without upgrades is more challenging and makes you refine your movement and spell use

languid isle
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Yeah that makes sense

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Just watched some parts of your video and I gotta say you are really good

past edge
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thanks

austere flume
past edge
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xD

toxic sedge
austere flume
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im pretty fast i just cant beat wk

stable quarry
nocturne leaf
past edge
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TY!

austere flume
toxic sedge
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its better at start to be patient in bosses rather than diyng so many times

stable quarry
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Best is to practice a ton so that you can be confident while being agressive.

austere flume
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yeah thats the problem

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i spent like 3 hours on wk im just too bad

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even when i dont rush

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like i can beat them with the gear, but only like 10% of the time

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wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwswwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwswwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

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my w was dirty lol

livid quarry
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Is this possible without the lantern

formal bough
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yes

livid quarry
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Is there a vid?

formal bough
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(after 1.1? 1.0? patches when they removed deepnest toll)

formal bough
livid quarry
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To hard

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Brain hurt

steady lynx
livid quarry
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Sub 3 hours let’s go

rancid mesa
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theres this one time i beat the game in 2 hours and 30 minutes :))))

fervent zenith
past edge
analog monolith
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watching a high-level all skills run should help give a feel for where you want to go in those rooms

sage moon
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I just kept going into dark Deepnest and fumbling about until I learned the layout

stable quarry
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I can do them now. But I still prefer all skills over any%

pure epoch
sick lagoon
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Ayo i got the bounce quirrelpog

sage moon
sick lagoon
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is it possible to get the speedrun achievements without any insane skips?

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like no super intense timings or luck dependant

steady lynx
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Yeah

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Honestly just get DDark early and you can steamroll most of everything

sick lagoon
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now that i think about it how early can you get DDark? cus you only really need crystal dash to get past the gap

steady lynx
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The main idea is getting Dive from city crest entry, getting geo for lantern if you need to see, going to cpeak from dive entry, pick up cdash and then go to DDark

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It deals a lot of damage and gives you iframes

sick lagoon
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wasnt there 2 entrances to crystal peaks from crossroads?

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there's the dive above

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and then the paywall on the lower part

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but you need lamp for that

steady lynx
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Yeah, but you can't get DDark without dive anyway

sick lagoon
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are you sure about that? i think i remember a video that showed you can actually get void first

steady lynx
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That's only Shade Soul, unless you noclip

sick lagoon
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i dont know if you understand what im trying to say
my idea is getting lamp, buying the door below to skip doing city of tears early for dive, getting cdash, THEN get ddark

stuck raptor
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how are you getting ddark

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without breaking the dive floor in that room

sick lagoon
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you mean this one?

stuck raptor
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no. in crystal mound

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immediately upon entering the room

sick lagoon
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s h i t

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well there goes my plan out the window

wooden nymph
weary root
#

on older patches the distance they roll is framerate dependant

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so your framerate is probably fairly high

wooden nymph
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Oh that makes a lot of sense.

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I'll try lowering my fps to see if that helps

weary root
#

yeah capping your framerate will also make some flying enemies stop moving at lightning speeds

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don't cap it too low though otherwise you start getting input lag issues

sage moon
wooden nymph
#

Looks like limiting the framerate worked. Thanks so much!

hidden shale
lost bane
#

how do i cancel my submission of the run?
i forgot to read the rules and i don't want to disturb the mods

hidden shale
#

if you go to your submission, you should be able to delete it

lost bane
#

i can only edit the run

steady lynx
#

Link the submission

lost bane
lucid patio
#

I've got an issue where the Follies are moving way too fast in the Soul Sanctum... Any idea why?

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I've got mods downloaded and installed, but they're not enabled (the mod api is disabled in scarab)

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yesterday their crazy turbo-the-snail speed killed a run

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just for reference I have benchwarp, debugmod, itemchanger, menuchanger, qol, randomizer 4, randomizerCore, and Vasi downloaded (again not enabled)

finite flame
lucid patio
#

huh. how do I check?

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I don't have it capped I don't think

finite flame
#

are you playing on steam?

lucid patio
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and I turned vsync off, so it's probly not capped

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yeah steam

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wait yeah I've been having some issues with vengefiles too now that I think about it

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I just figured I was losing it though XD

finite flame
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go into steam -> top left corner -> Steam -> Settings -> In-Game -> In-game FPS Counter

lucid patio
#

holy crap 600fps

finite flame
#

but it's weird because i play on 400fps and have never experienced this

lucid patio
#

holy crap that was it

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you're a lifesaver

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I turned on "framerate cap" option in the menu, and it capped it at 400 (why 400, idk) and now the follies are moving normally

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apparetnly 600 is too fast for them

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oh @finite flame just for consistency

finite flame
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ah so thats why im capped at 400fps

limber nest
#

yo

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can anyone help me learn the explosion pogo I keep messing it up

vagrant warren
#

what version are you on? there are video tutorials based on patch

limber nest
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the latest patch

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I got it down though so it's fine

true palm
#

defaults to 400

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we recommend 200-300 generally

hidden shale
lunar breach
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longest part killing the kingsmould

dense kraken
#

i never attempted actual speedrunning and just watched some speedrunning videos, but i have a question after watching the videos: is it possible to not get lumafly lantern for the any% speedrun?

steady lynx
#

Yes

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If you get Dive instead

dense kraken
#

🧐

steady lynx
#

The toll can't be interacted with in the dark room if that's what you're wondering

dense kraken
#

oh

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is that dark room toll required to beat the game?

steady lynx
#

Well, not really

#

You can also get crystal heart with the dive entrance to cpeak, or alternatively do the mag Isma's route that non-runners love so much

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One of cdash or Isma's is hard required to get to Monomon though

dense kraken
#

interesting

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thanks

open spindle
#

the only any% all glitches guide I could find was last updated 4 years ago

weary root
#

If you join the speedrunning discord in the pins^ of this channel and find the glitched section there's a couple guides that go over this/similar stuff, and even better there's a bunch of people there who would be happy to help or explain how this works.

open spindle
#

cool, ill do that, thanks

hollow cedar
# open spindle https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYZrM_tfKMQ I am dying for somebody to explain t...

You just start a godseeker file hit the hardsave quit out and dupe the main menu load into kp with noclip put on charms place a dgate at black egg store the crossroads stag then go left right down left right down left right up left right up left right left down right left right transition storage dive left right left then get airwalk enter archives go up left down skip uumuu enter the dream three times get monomons quitout dgate overcharm fury and kill thk

open spindle
#

lol im currently watching your youtube tutorial on this

hollow cedar
#

It was on stream and very rough lol, hope it’s helpful

whole fiber
#

Alright, so, let me reiterate my question wrongly asked in #hk-help 😅
Tips for collector scream skip? i've been struggling to execute it and i've only done it once

weary root
#

Pantheons or overworld?

whole fiber
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Pantheons

weary root
#

yeah ok pantheons can be weird cause it's load dependant, so the timing will be different for different people, and will also be different the first time that room loads since opening the game.

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I don't run pantheon stuff at all so if you wanted some more experienced help I'd recommend going to the speedrunning discord (link in the pins of this channel) and asking in #il-combat there. Will be a lot more people who are knowledgeable there

whole fiber
#

Alrighto, thanks!

hollow cedar
coral shore
#

W8, that's a decent pasta to actually remember order of movement. Thank you 5b!

reef lichen
#

Haha moist critical just gave any radiance a shout out

steady lynx
#

who

hidden shale
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penguinz0, moist critikal is the other name they go by

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the guy that screamed “YEAHHHH BABY, THAT’S WHAT I’VE BEEN WAITING FOR, THAT’S WHAT ITS ALL ABOUT” and became a meme

spice mulch
#

Hello, i am new to speedrunning, just checking it for fun, livesplit doesnt seem to start the timer. what do i do?

true palm
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if this was ur first time downloading splits off hksplimaker, sometimes the autosplits can be wiped

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try redownloading the splits

spice mulch
#

Thanks that worked

digital jewel
#

New pop wr has been delayed until silksong releases, sorry

digital jewel
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Yeah sorry

hidden shale
#

i’m finally a gamer

stable quarry
plucky python
#

For someone who isnt good with alk the skips and stuff what is the good speedrun to try?

gritty raptor
#

How should I go about starting to learn current patch? (I’m on a computer that needs that or it can’t run sadly) I’ve played a decent 8 or so playthroughs. Should I just review the path and start trying?

stable quarry
plucky python
plucky python
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I think i remember the route

formal bough
#

Hey I've watched many speedruns and they all seem to ignore my favorite room

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How does a thisroom% speedrun sound?

weary root
#

sounds like good spike tunnel practise

formal bough
#

Would it just be TE shadeskip to right side into cursed spike tunnel

coarse skiff
#

hey guys

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what do i need to get the speedrunner title

#

??

formal bough
#

it's an obsolete role that does nothing

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nothing*

true palm
#

used to be used when this was the main speedrunning server

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the only reason youd need/want the role is to see archived channels

coarse skiff
#

and how do i get it?

vagrant warren
#

it's not given anymore. (The requirement used to be a verified run on SRC, which is the current requirement for the role in the speedrunning server)

true palm
#

if you need something from the archived channels we can give the stuff/info to you

hexed thorn
steady lynx
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For a main board category, All Achievements goes through there

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Mostly to kill flipbugs

true palm
#

i tested some cursed quit out strats that would have ge go through that room

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idea being you can kill dd on the way to godhome

steady lynx
#

Having to finish the journal really scuffs the All Achievements route

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Hope you like colo 3 because you have to do it twice

nova stream
#

is there a way to reset PoP? close the gate after room 2 and Just start at the beginning?

hidden shale
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download the MiniSavestates dll

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it’s allowed for Path of Pain if you’re submitting to leaderboards

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once you download it, drag it into “hollow_knight_data/managed” and when it asks something about replacing current file, click yes

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when you wanna turn it off and you’re on steam, i just verify integrity of game files

hidden shale
#

most path of pain runners use minisavestates lmao

hidden shale
#

yea, that’s what i meant by leaderboards

nova stream
#

Hmm

hidden shale
#

i dunno of any other hk leaderboard websites

nova stream
#

Alright

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So the timer ends if I am outside, when does it start?

hidden shale
#

the timer starts as soon as you enter the first room

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if you go to the hk splitmaker website and search for path of pain, it has a livesplit setup premade

nova stream
#

if I enter or if I see it?

hidden shale
nova stream
#

nice, thanks!

nova stream
hidden shale
#

yeah that happened to me once

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i just restarted

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then loaded the savestate as soon as i got off the white palace bench

nova stream
#

also deleted every mod

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so I cant access PoP again

#

kinda weird

#

cant you combine that minisavestates with any mods?

hidden shale
nova stream
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sad

hidden shale
#

you have to download a new save for path of pain from the resources section

nova stream
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because

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I only have a save with the wall already broken

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and I dont think thats allowed

hidden shale
#

the wall being broken or not doesn’t matter, timer doesn’t start in that room anyway

nova stream
#

huh

hidden shale
nova stream
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lol where do I find the file

hidden shale
#

click the Resources tab on speedrun.com then scroll down to saves

#

actually

#

@nova stream

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you can change the number in the file name if that slot is already taken and you don’t wanna delete the preexisting save

hidden shale
#

thanks

devout sand
#

quick question, how do the minisavestates work? cus i have it downloaded but do i have to do something to activate it?

hidden shale
#

did you put it into your hollow knight managed folder?

devout sand
#

no it says minisavestates active, i was just won dering how does it work

hidden shale
#

F2 is to make a savestate, F1 is to load it

devout sand
#

got it, ty

celest fossil
#

is there a geo guide somewhere for any% nmg?

nova stream
#

@hidden shale Is there any guide for the speedrun route/strats you used in your video? Cant find anything about it

hidden shale
#

not that i know of

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you kinda just have to watch other runs and implement their strats into your own runs

nova stream
#

Alright

final elk
#

I believe either @thorny musk or @ember reef was making a pop guide, can’t remember which one, and I’m not sure if it’s finished either

thorny musk
#

I lost motivation for it, since watching other people's runs is so easy for such a short category

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I do have a short runthrough of the strats I'd recommend a new runner to learn, once they get past trying to generally get a hitless run

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I wouldn't recommend starting learning pop with this tho

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You'll need to practice so much it'll be demotivating, work on getting a run around 2:40 first

nova stream
#

I cant do the spike skip jump at all

coral shore
#

Yeah, I don't think new runner should do it. It's a really really hard thing to pull of, so... Just lose some time going through right side and doing cdash. I'm not a pop runner, so if Cyren or Northirn say differently - listen to them.

nova stream
#

Alright

lone dew
#

I got a speedrun idea gorb percent it ends when you beat ascended gorb

knotty vigil
#

good 4 u

hidden shale
#

in my opinion, you should only do thorn skip if you have a time around 2:10-2:20 (or if you just wanna do it for fun)

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i saw one person on speedrun.com who had a 2:08 without using thorn skip

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so

final elk
#

That’s Cyren wasn’t it

sly tulip
#

cyren is insane

#

also here <@&283547423706447872> every channel basically even #livestreams

haughty sundial
hidden shale
#

finally, someone with similar music interest as me lol

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love eden

haughty sundial
#

yeah he's great

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been following him since 2016

livid idol
#

Gotta go fast

steady lynx
sly tulip
#

no zotechad

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this is the only one

inland saddle
#

First message

sly tulip
#

reply ping shermasmirk

quick yoke
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worst message

steady lynx
#

There's literally like 30 messages of people suggesting Death% as a category so you're objectively wrong

sage moon
#

I think we should make a category called Live%

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The goal is to live as fast as possible

hidden shale
steady lynx
#

I'm not even gonna honour the shitpost that is that category idea with a proper answer

hidden shale
#

understandable

stiff delta
#

clearly the optimal death% goes up to the spikes to die without the hinderence of I frames

true palm
#

optimal death% ran on 1.3+ to inv drop into early control chain hits

stable quarry
shadow dagger
#

Welp thats not big but its my record for beating up hk fastly

#

Could've skip some part tbh

#

Btw if you have any tips to improve tell me

coral shore
#

47% is quite a lot. What abilities did you get?

thorn drum
neat mauve
shadow dagger
#

I mean at leasy i did it under 10h for the succes so im quite happy about it

coral shore
shadow dagger
#

And the dash ofc

#

I think going to the abysses was waste of time lmfao

coral shore
# shadow dagger I had shade soul, abyss shriek and desolate dive

For now, I'd recommend not going for shriek. (I would also recommend not going for shade cloak and wings, because they are absolutely not needed). You can get into spire with Lurien by pogoing background object (that can be quite precise, but it's fast to retry). And the way you would get to Monomon is by performing an acid skip from crossroads into fog canyon

shadow dagger
#

I'll have to start training for this xD

coral shore
#

Things I recommended don't require like a lot of training. That's why I didn't say anything about shade skip or dark room in cpeaks, or darknest, and so on. Also 2 skips I mentioned are used it tons of categories, so they are good for general speedrunning knowledge

sly tulip
#

DABS% Destroy all backer signs

hidden shale
#

<@&283547423706447872>

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thank u Tran

sly tulip
#

how much does 1432 spore shroom any% route lose?

final elk
#

Something like 20 I believe

sly tulip
#

Sec I hope?

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not too bad

vagrant warren
#

Although the HUD elements are from Butterfly knight

daring cairn
#

Let's go

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Loosely following Fireborns 5h speedrun guide

fossil lotus
#

Soul of Steel is easy(don't take it to serious)

dusty tinsel
#

guys where I can download the speedrun mod to make speedruns in hk?

coral shore
dusty tinsel
#

i'm not going to post speedruns and shit
its just for fun 🙂

steady lynx
shell tendon
#

big fast

knotty pasture
#

my game keeps softlocking after hornet 1 reset, can't get off the bench, what am i doing wrong?

sage moon
#

I'd make a joke about how 1.2.2.1 is broken and bad, but I'm refraining from it because I have a feeling nobody would get that it's a joke so instead y'all are just getting this

daring cairn
#

Does fireborn have any guides for speedrunning categories other than the 5 hour speedrun achievement? I really liked that guide

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I found it very useful

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Or any other person who has a comprehwns8ve guide like that

formal bough
coral shore
steady lynx
#

The solution is to simply have a better PC though

sage moon
#

But then I wouldn't have an excuse for being bad

steady lynx
#

Just blame Uumuu

coral shore
steady lynx
#

General life advice, no matter what happens, even in other games or out in the real world, blame Uumuu

knotty vigil
#

I get really sad when

coral shore
steady lynx
#

I get sad when I see others get angry at Uumuu. Sad, because I know that they’re actually angry at themselves, for having terrible Watcher Knight and Hollow Knight fights. Because Uumuu is so easy to optimize, they take their anger out on him, becoming more and more insecure and never addressing their own personal problems. I just wish more people understood that RNG doesn’t ruin runs: speedrunners ruin runs.

#

homothety based

coral shore
#

W8, was it homothety who made this pasta?

steady lynx
#

afaik

knotty vigil
#

It used to be pinned here lmfao

coral shore
#

I really thought vali made it himself

steady lynx
#

A lot of our pasta is as ancient as the spaghetti that makes up this game

mild moon
coral shore
#

A sad day to not have a speedrunner role

#

Well, I guess I'll sleep, so I wake up in a less sad to not have a speedrunner role day

knotty vigil
#

It means nothing in here anymore

steady lynx
#

We get to chat in the super secret chat

knotty vigil
#

do you guys actually still talk in the hidden channels or nah

steady lynx
#

Nah, they're locked, I think the mods can talk there but we wanted to keep them visible for us in case we needed info from there

knotty vigil
#

ah, gotcha

gloomy sonnet
#

Proposition: mantis lords%, has fun skips, Hornet fight, similar to any% most of the time, and ends on the objectively best early game boss in the game

#

Goal btw is to kill mantis lords

#

General route would be skip false knight, getVS, do any% up until claw, and then go down and do mantis lords boss

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Imo would be kinda fun probably sub 12 possible perhaps

final elk
#

And low equip mantis lords will definitely take plenty of time

gloomy sonnet
final elk
#

Most likely yeah

#

Something like that

gloomy sonnet
#

Low equip mantis lords might be kinda hype if ur on wr pace tho

hidden anvil
steady lynx
#

I don't think a single person here can actually have the base patches run well without random lag spikes

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No matter how much I love 1.0.3.7 for some categories I can't pretend it runs well all the time

sly tulip
#

I mean when I watch streams I don't see lags

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and they play on 1221 most of the time

steady lynx
#

Those who play on 1221 consistently have good enough PC's to do so, a lot of people just can't do that

sly tulip
#

makes sense

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and I get lag spikes on 1432

#

so sad

steady lynx
#

It's why we made the 1.4.3.2+ boards on src

sly tulip
#

ok

steady lynx
#

I just kinda realised it's Graig who responded earlier, been a bit since I saw him here

sly tulip
#

yea

#

team cherry guy admitted that version of game is bad

steady lynx
#

1.0.0.6 is optimal for like, White Palace Individual Level runs

#

But you need a NASA PC to run it

sly tulip
#

why is it optimal?

#

other cycles?

#

flukes op?

coral shore
# sly tulip why is it optimal?

A bit if lever skipping, and you can also just jump to the right atrium lever, skipping all the platforming there (on lp you can also do it with a slopeball)

steady lynx
#

I made small videos of the skips a bit back, one moment

sly tulip
#

dang

steady lynx
#

Only on 1.0.0.6 (and 1.0.0.5)

sly tulip
#

lft?

#

lol fungetable token?

peak storm
#

Slowrun?

steady lynx
#

Go to #slowrunning for that

sly tulip
#

seen people use slow run as casual play through

steady lynx
#

I can't make too much fun of it being 4th to last in any% but it's a bit of a stupid idea to do a "run" just to get a bad leaderboard spot

#

On that if someone submits a 10 hour any% run we'll probably just reject it

surreal stone
#

Kinda want to get into speedrunning path of pain just for the fun. How do i redo path of pain?

knotty vigil
#

you practice with debug save states

stable quarry
#

You run with minidebug

sage moon
#

Quit out instead of watching the ending cutscene

final elk
#

If you do that your run will be invalid

sage moon
#

They said they wanted to do it for fun, so does it matter?

fair panther
#

why is my downpatched game (1.2.2.1) capped at 30 fps, even tho i got 60hz and all that

final elk
#

Wr is 1:30?

sly tulip
#

probably just rng

final elk
#

That doesn’t sound right

#

Wr for absrad is 43 secs

sly tulip
#

yea I though we is like under a min but idk

knotty pasture
wary oriole
#

If the WR for absrad is 43 seconds then regular radiance is an entire phase shorter
Probably like, 35 seconds or smth

weary root
# final elk That doesn’t sound right

I mean it depends what your split points are. The classic split points for regular Radiance are dream entry -> game end which includes having to climb up to "challenge" the fight and the title screen.

#

106% comsob for those split points is a 1:33, and TE AG comsob is a 1:35 (assuming sheets are up to date)

analog monolith
#

from where to where

#

if i had to guess 106% comsob is the fastest recorded radiance fight, and that would be the place to look for a "world record" radiance

steady lynx
#

106 comsob kills Radiance as fast as its even possible

#

It's always 2 guaranteed attacks total so "running" the fight would just be 2 RNG checks if you get sword spiral or reset

coral shore
#

W8, are flukes THAT op in 106 that Radiance attacks only twice?

steady lynx
#

Yeah

#

112 damage every cast, cast speed of Shade Soul and doesn't inflict iframes

#

Even if that wasn't enough 1.1.1.4 flukes would deal 144 damage each cast

coral shore
#

I really love the fact that 1114 flukes are like, better than everything there is in the game

steady lynx
#

It's just insane how much damage they deal

#

You can plain kill a Wingmould with 7 casts as long as you don't hit it with the nail

coral shore
#

W8, you can kill wingmould??? I love 1114

steady lynx
#

Wingmould regains health to 999 if hit, but before 1.3 flukes didn't register as a hit, it just removed health

coral shore
#

Lmao

steady lynx
#

On later patches you may be able to kill them by using Spore shroom but it'd take forever

knotty vigil
#

can’t beat wk

sly tulip
#

and?

knotty vigil
#

I’ve seen that

#

Just hard

mortal skiff
#

Can I ask why nobody really runs all glitches any%?

stable quarry
#

That's why I don't run any%

mortal skiff
stable quarry
#

Also glitch categories are just less active in general

mortal skiff
#

Do they require downpatching?

stable quarry
#

Lol

stable quarry
#

So no

final elk
#

They used to until room dupes iirc

stable quarry
#

You just have to main menu storage, and someother ones I haven't memorized.

mortal skiff
#

So I could learn glitch any% right out of the box without setting things up?

stable quarry
#

He made a main menu storage tutorial iirc

hollow cedar
#

Check the pins in #any-percent-glitched in the speedrun discord

knotty vigil
#

yo it's Fivebrane

hidden shale
#

LEST FUCKIUBNGF HGOI

hollow cedar
ripe crater
#

Hey, I found a glitch when I was playing and I think it can be used somehow.

stuck raptor
#

do you have a video

ripe crater
#

i wasint rec sorry

hidden shale
#

explain what the glitch is

ripe crater
#

So I ran into a room and I started to fall slowly to the bottom

stuck raptor
#

anything else with that? or just the slow falling

ripe crater
#

well i could move and when i used the nail it stoped

stuck raptor
#

slow falling like that is an effect/by-product of many "storage" glitches. it's not overly useful except a few niche scenarios

ripe crater
#

oh okay well thx for telling me

stuck raptor
#

nice find though. and thx for sharing it

ripe crater
#

no prob

harsh nimbus
#

question, what frames does hollow knight run on the switch? I tried and actually managed to pull off a stall ball, does that mean it's 60fps?

verbal stag
#

yes its locked to 60

coral shore
worn sonnet
#

tbh I'm just tryna get the 5h achievement so

#

I'm about 1h and a half in, got wings claw heart and cloak

#

and dream nail ofc

#

gotten Lurien

#

which dreamer should I go for next?

knotty vigil
#

?srpsa

sick ravenBOT
proven snow
#

Hey y’all! I want to get into HK speedrunning but I don’t really know where to start, this is the first game I’ve ever speedran before and since I’m on console I can’t do most glitches, any help is welcome!

stuck raptor
#

the community has moved to their own server

#

check pins for the discord server

proven snow
#

Oh

solemn tusk
#

whats the name of the timer app/mod/whatever that speedrunners use?

knotty vigil
#

livesplit

solemn tusk
#

ty

zealous shoal
#

what time would a speedrunner get mantis vengful spirit and dash

#

btw i have only done false knight, picked up no charms and is abt to get city spell

knotty vigil
#

depends on what category said speedrunner is doing

zealous shoal
#

true ending

true palm
#

getting claw takes up to around 12 minutes loadless

zealous shoal
true palm
#

i mean if ur new ur gonna be slower

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i think for te ur looking at like a 9:30

#

not 100% familiar with its exact timings

stuck raptor
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TE also gets dream nail early

spare zinc
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I have an idea for a hollow knight meme Speedrun were you get all minions and then die in steelsoul mode I call it hollow knight absent father%

steady lynx
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Sounds like Marissa audience% but with dying at the end

true palm
spare zinc
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Kinda

steady lynx
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<@&283547423706447872>

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Thanks

celest lance
steady lynx
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Someone claimed Hornet isn't void, was taken care of

celest lance
steady lynx
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Someone sent a link to a random ass discord server that probably just was one of those that hack your account

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Why do you care?

celest lance
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becasue hornet isnt void so what you said was obviously a lie

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the mods wouldnt ban someone for speaking the truth

clear rampart
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😳

steady lynx
spare moat
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Any good YouTubers to watch for a good route?

clear rampart
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if it's a route you're looking for in general, i would recommend going to the hollow knight page on speedrun.com, find a category you're interested in learning about and watch some runs from the leaderboard

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if you're looking for guides on specific routes, i'm unsure of specifics, but i'm sure for the main categories someone has explanations / guides around the place, maybe not youtube specifc though

knotty vigil
spare moat
stable quarry
placid python
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Hey folks, quick speedrun question. I notice that one of the categories is 106% TE. I was wondering what 106 avoids from the full completion of 112 APB. Godhome makes up 5% of the completion percentage, would anyone know where the missing 1% is?

stuck raptor
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hive knight

placid python
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That makes sense. I guess it is run on the patch before lifeblood and godhome.

steady lynx
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It's why the misc tab has a 107% category

old heron
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Hey ! Going into hk speedrunning, but i've a pb my controller isn't detected on the 1221 version

weary root
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yeah 1221 didn't support some controller types
Best bet is to use a different program like AntiMicro or Joy2Key to map controller inputs to key presses

golden turret
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Hey, does the time of my game pauses when I pause the game?

marsh tiger
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Like the time the save file displays?

golden turret
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ye

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my game time gets stopped

marsh tiger
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I don’t believe it does but the timer on the save is very very finicky and I don’t quite understand how it works

steady lynx
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Only TC can truly know how the in game timer works, we're more concerned if it works

hidden shale
stable quarry
hidden shale
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also yes the in game timer is a mystery on its own

stable quarry
hidden shale
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i don’t think team cherry even knows how the in-game timer works

stable quarry
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🍝

stable moon
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I think it’s like if it was exactly an hour it displays as 0 instead? I will verify later

true palm
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the time you get can also make the end% completion break

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and show like 57% or somethingg

stable moon
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Time to route 57%, the category where you need to have loads be the right length

knotty vigil
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<@&283547423706447872> ?

south herald
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Thanks

bold basin
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also whats so bad about people mistaking the lore to where moderators have to remove their messages about it?

steady lynx
# bold basin wait is hornet void or no?

Lore wise, no, it's just a joke where speedrunners insist that Hornet is void no matter what, I also didn't think the person really had a reason to ask why we needed the mods' help so I didn't give a serious answer

bold basin
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ohhh

digital jewel
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<@&283547423706447872>

knotty vigil
bold basin
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Ok

indigo jetty
knotty vigil
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ok?

compact mulch
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Why do speedrunners fireball before the hornet fight

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This discord server doesn't work

coral shore
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It's to skip the dialogue with hornet. For some reason, if you fireball her before the dialogue starts, the fight will begin immediately (note: this fireball doesn't deal damage, iirc)

compact mulch
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Oooh right i didn't notice

pure topaz
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I need to know, how known is the grub-vengefly skip?

stuck raptor
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the what

knotty vigil
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The crossroads one

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Where you pogo off an enemy?

past edge
stuck raptor
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if that's what you're referring to, then very known

past edge
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in abyss.

bold basin
knotty vigil
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Wrong channel xd

past edge
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yeah but

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bruh

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²

last plinth
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radiant false knight death speedrun : less than one second itssoulgood

shell tendon
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Hey this is the topic I can't do

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nice

fervent wing
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is there a debug mod for the most recent patch and if so does it have the save point thing for practicing?

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everywhere online I look it tries to get me to download 1.2.2.1 and 1.4.3.2

knotty vigil
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Yes

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Guess what, most videos on YouTube are outdated as fuck

fervent wing
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ty

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sory for answering 10 hours late 😭

forest rose
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Hi, i want to begin to Speedrun hollow knight. Category : true end. Do you have tips for me ? (I'm a beginner and i'm french)

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I play on switch

analog monolith
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hi! true ending's a pretty intricate category and generally more difficult than other more-run categories, but theres plenty of tips and whatnot that can help

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butttt also standing on my pedestal of former wr holder for 1.4+ te nmg i can give a good amount of help. what specifically do you need help with?

forest rose
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Thanks. Do you have the road ?

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And what is 1.4+ ? The version ?

coral shore
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Yeah. So, most nmg categories have 2 sub categories - NMG and 1.4.3.2+ NMG. NMG is the fastest allowed patch, and 1.4.3.2+ NMG is any allowed patch that released after 1.4.3.2 or 1.4.3.2 itself (mainly 1.4.3.2, 1.5.7.8 and some people use 1.5.7.5). I

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You play on switch, so your patch is 1.4.3.2

forest rose
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Ok, thank you very much

coral shore
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Also, slight correction. Usually we use "route" instead of "road". It's not a huge deal, most people will understand you, but just as a sidenote

forest rose
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Okay

analog monolith
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theres a few routes that are generally used: current wr uses the shriek route, previous wr uses shade soul route, and the most beginner-friendly route gets both. shriek and shade soul are roughly the same length with shriek route being ~40s faster optimally

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ill leave pastebins for each here

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splits for each can be downloaded here: https://hksplitmaker.com
and if you have any more nuanced questions, i recommend joining the dedicated speedrun server (pinned here) and asking in the true ending chat there. more likely to get better help there