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that's a bit rude
Patch?
Patch?
Then you should be fine. Easy no. But fine.
I ain't a pro
I can do it but it's still a challenge
Not shade dash, regular dash
anyone wanna race P5??????
???????
or path of pain
or pain of the path
or low% godhome?
Why would any one want to race low% godhome?
Have you tried deleating HK and reinstalling?
Can I downpatch with other method?
Yes
How?
Guide^^^
This guide
can I show livesplit on top of hollow knight?
fullscreen
?
<@&284848710960021504>
do runners use nail 3 for pantheon bindings speedruns? also wonder if anyones attempted nail 2 speedruns for p3 and p4, its prob still slower but im curious by how much
low% godhome sounds like the most unfun thing I've ever heard of
i think somni still has it
yep, people always use nail 3 or 4 for all bindings, though they do the same damage with nail binding so why not use nail 4 anyways
nail 2 runs probably would be slightly slower but not by a lot, since a lot of the damage dealt comes from spells
well the reason to use nail 3 is about half the p3 and p4 bosses have less health
ohh gotcha\
(also pls turn off pings when replying thanku)
(how do I do that)
click/tap the on to make it unping c:
gotcha, ty!
why must he turn them off
You are present in the chat are you not
do anyone know how to set up livesplit to make it room transition i wana do speedkill of a boss
Set Game Name to Hollow Knight and it should pop up as option
Press Activate
Press the settings button
Idk how quickkills are timed
That should start the timer whenever you enter any loading zone
You're done there, now right click the base livesplit window, hover "Compare Against" and click "Game Time"
how do i remove these long empty slots
done
Right click, "Edit Layout..."
Press "Subsplits" and press the big minus
Try pressing add split, it might need a split to start at all
Wait, are you on Windows?
yes
Oh you should probably press save splits, that might be a good idea
i did save split
but after adding in a new split the timer still dont start once i entered a biss
boss
rn
I'll have to ask the devs of the autosplitter real quick then
oh alr
Restart both livesplit and the game
try changing the "Abyss Shriek (Skill)" autosplit to "Manual Split" i think it's called
thatll prevent it from splitting automatically, and it'll split whenever you split it
though yes it does mean it wont autosplit
Guys anyone know how to put 2 different versions of hollow knight on steam?
i need to create a version of the game for speedrun
Should be in the downpatch guide on src
what is src ?
Just survive past the walls of ads and advertising to give the owners money
something that might be helpful for livesplit https://hksplitmaker.com/#112-comsob
yes
still improving but thats one of my best times
@ivory bridge we talked in blue's chat earlier, ive routed gorb%, got a 24min 28s run. basically go low% route to claw and then do a dashless shade skip to d nail. also stag to dirtmouth from resting grounds bc you need the salubra bench so you cant s and q to dirtmouth after dnail
Here's my clear. I got dash, but no clue where the other time save would come from. thank you for partaking in this run with me 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0CINOr9JLI&t=1050s
hey there, had a quick question about Steam beta downpatching. Whenever I downpatch through steam the game lags severely when particle effects happen. Have played for 200hrs and problem only occurs when the game is "downpatched." fix/explanation? thank you
Yeah that’s because earlier patches are wildly unoptimized as far as resource usage is
Not really any fix
Except get a better pc or run latest patch
hey, got a question, so for speedrunning a lot of people use the grimm troupe patch, but how do I get into that patch? using steam btw
thanks!
wow. After playing hk for over 2 years I finally decide to start speed running... Done in under an hour
ive only done 3 speedruns
just for achievements
i think my best time was around 2and a half hours
i still have to improve the 3 bossfights i have in the run
watchers knight, uumuu and THK
I think I might run it in current patch to get stallball and skip greenpath - also good job on the 20 24
lol
This is way better than before where I was 5:30 through the run.
and now I will take a break before p5 because I have not had breakfast
I'm honestly not sure if this is "fireb0rn has WR right?" meme or not but WR has not been a 33 for quite some time:
oh i didnt see it, well f*ck me then xd
ye i saw Ax2u going sub 33, but i didnt see it was nearly sub 32 jesus
any tips on qga?
i think its the same from uumuu skip
u just have to time it pretty well
and dont go crazy spamming the jump button
nah theres not
its just annoying af to switch between scarab moddable public beta and speedrun patch
This person is 100% correct, there's no way to do something like the picture here and have more than one install of the game ready to boot
(Old picture btw, I have way more installs now)
I mean, yeah, you can't have this many installs. You either have more then that, or you are not Gusten and have like... 7 max
This is what it looks like now, every full release I could bother to get
need to get some 1.5.75 up in there gusten
How do you not have storage problems?
Tbf the rekky stod at 33 for quite a while iirc.
Hard milestone to break.
the first 32 was over two years ago now
I have a 2TB SSD
Fair, despite hating 1.5 I have to admit that 1575 is good-ish
Hey, can you still do all of the tricks necessary to beat the game in the latest version? Like all the acid skips, spike tunnel things, etc...
And inventory drops
Only thing really lost in later patches is lever skips, everything else should be doable
Ok, thank you, have a nice day
Oh inventory drops are a bit different but doable as well
you can't skip ancestral mound because of the changes to invdrop
You can still skip mound with an interaction storage on the bench so no real loss
you can skip ancestral mound with qms inv storage into warp cancel
which allows you to effectively inventory drop like before
First run ever
good god that was a long time
i cant submit the run because I forgot to fucking record
hey sorry to bug you. I have a pretty high end pc, without seeming like boasting it runs aaa games at uhd. So just wanted to make sure that it really is all down to bad patch performance as i don't see the dropped frames in youtube videos. Sorry to be a pester, there are no google results for this issue
ive got a faster speedrun then pest but i cant submit it cos i dont have a vid
You'll have to compete with the 7 or so people who already said something like that this year
i got 20 min
Didn't even beat Krythom
on which category
probably nmms
i think i found something to replace shade skip
it uses a glitch that i haven't really seen ever used before
i call it bench jump
basically
when the prompt for the bench shows up
you can dash away and activate it at the same time
if you time it right
the rest prompt will still be there
if you activate it, you will teleport to the bench
but, if you are higher or lower than the bench, it teleports you to the bench's location, but with you still at the height you were at before
so, you can end up under or above the bench, floating, having the game think you are on a bench
i used this glitch, then jumped down to the pit next to salubra's shop
i activated it, and clipped to the underside of the bench
then i used mantis claw to jump up to the entrance to blue lake
if you do it correctly, you can jump to just the right position where you can touch the doorway to blue lake
i also found this out because i didn't know how to do shade skip lmao
this is delayed interaction
That's considered a major glitch.
its banned
you can use it to do a lot of cool things, like get into shade soul
and it used to be used to skip mound on 1.4
aight
but generally anything that big where ur sequence breaking and stuff using glitches is gonna be major
that being said if you find something you think we might not know about, you can still share it, since glitched runners might be able to use it
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can someone help me, im starting to speedrun and my mouse wont work when in hollow knight im using patch 1.2.2.1
ah you need blue.exe
brb finding that
#mouse #russian hacks #bindings #blue.exe
Updated the program I wrote for Blue to fix mouse bindings. This version includes right mouse button as well. Left click emits "H", right click emits "T", so just bind actions you want on left and right buttons to "h" and "t" and you're gtg
Original post by Valignatev
i got it to work with the side buttons
I’ve got a faster speedrun than pest but I can’t submit it
We're waiting to verify your low% AG rekky until we figure out where to put old any% AG
Trying to get Xero to just quickly archive the 2% state of the board before switching it all to 1%
let me know if you need to know what happens in the black screens
Ah no
Jenkar verified it, so I trust they know what was going on
Jenkar is pretty specialised in verifying glitched runs, I just stick to main board NMG
It's just some out of bounds black screen floating down stuff, could see it being hard to understand
I've gotten more familiar with how the glitches work and what's going on, just more comfortable running NMG and those two hyper optimal glitched categories i did really serious runs in and got rekky
Any tips for pulling off QGA skip more consistently
I think Blair did a video that says if you dash, fireball, and dash back into the wall for qga it is more consistent
Practicing my QGA (on my main file) in advance of some full game runs because I kinda need it. I started adding this fireball stall into the setup and it's been making the skip well not free by any means but significantly easier for me. It lets me dash off the ledge and stay close to the lake instead of jumping into the air and also gives me a l...
guys to reach Herrah do I need monarch wings?
No
Easier and more consistent is not the same thing
I have passed through the mantis village and I am going to Herrah but there is a platform i cant reach
show it?
its an impasse
🗿
Why are you even asking this here?
cause im doing a speedrun
btw i was on the wrong way
i thought that i needed monarch wings
Your not following a route?
no i finished HK many times normally so i was doing it without any plan
Then it might be easier to do ismas route if your confident in spike tunnel skips. That way you don't need to worry about sanctum nor any expencive items like lantern.
How was your route?
How was your progression?
<@&283547423706447872> I have no idea if I should ping you for this but you get a ping anyway
?
Someone posting what looked like a phone number
i dont remember it. I've done it randomly just for the achievements
i don't appreciate speedruns
is this good for a first time?
yes
This is an English discord server, please speak English
They literaly said i dont speak english to speak here hahaha
I was told this is the best place to put this, so here we go.
I tried a speedrun of low%, and let my chat help me out. I even edited it down for your viewing pleasure!
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that guy makes it look easy
this was not the best place to post this :)
Guys lurien skip is so harddd and also how tf am i gonna do wathcer knights with base nail? Should i do something first? I dont know what to do
Also you can get nail 1 or shade soul.
@stable quarry Ok, thank you!
Just try and make sure you're at the peak of your jump when your pogo the background item, also you can easily practice it by walking out of the area to the left and then back in to respawn it
Once you get used to it it's not bad :)
should i speedrun, like is it fun at all?
no way u only have 27 subscribers
Yeah it’s fun imo
I’m Just an il runner though so what do I know
how do i downpatch?
Are you on steam
ye
Go into properties, betas, then choose the one you want (1221 most likely)
Or something like that
speed
Yes it is fun
Most of the time
But honestly
You’re kind of asking the wrong people
We’ve done this shit for ages
And almost never questioned if it’s fun or not
You gotta be dedicated to speedrun
It’s a ton of practice
Although it seems you’re used to a ton of practice, judging by your username
i quit speedrunning watcher knights are too hard for me fr
Oh, thats lurien skip.
Yes, fun. Sometimes frystrating but most of the time fun.
Just so you know, any% nmg isn't the only speedrunning category. Like, there are categories like 112% APB that go to watcher knight with like, top gear possible (and also flukes). There also are categories that don't do watcher knights at all, like meme categories, or most of glitched categories. So while WK fight can be a reason to quit any% nmg or te nmg, it's not a reason to quit speedrunning
There's 106% that just instakills WK before they can move
Yeah, I wanted to include 106%, just wasn't sure about it, since I never seen a run of it
Just got hella whiplash from that
from 106?
No, we're so far in time so people have never seen a 106 run
Oh. Well, I actually have never seen a lot of runs. Like, I also never fully watched a 112 run, so... I guess I should just sit and watch some fun cats
I mean, still not even half of the 1114 mighty
kill all 6 at once
1114 is just the God patch for glitches that aren't soob
Yeah. I really hope that when I go back to my pc i can actually do stuff on that patch. Rn it's kinda bad because of fps
The ghusk 6k+ geo kill is forever the best thing in any run
So true bestie
I can’t tell if this is a joke or a compliment, but thanks!
1114 WK are unironically harder than in 106, because optimally you don’t have invuln and you’re overcharmed and you have to not die to the 5 at once before the gate opens
Oh, shit. They still spawn, you just don't have to kill all of them?
Ive got an idea for a meme run
SHAW-less % beat hornet 1 (and maybe 2) without her screaming SHAW
In Steel Soul, I think its not bad at all
nah hornet without her making a sound
I am assuming you didn't just Save quit at black egg temple. Nice run
Impossible
Does anyone know who manages the help page on speedrun.com?
And if so, can they either put me in touch with them, or can someone make a guide for current patch runs?
Not all of the tricks in the guide are applicable on current patch, and I play on switch
Not thinking of submitting any runs, but I want to try and apply speedrunning strats in order to get the achievements, because then I would be rather proud of myself
guides are written by lots of different people
This is the guide I was talking about
Does anyone have a text guide like this for switch runs? Because that'd be super helpful
<@&283547423706447872>
Thanks
Not a lot of people run on switch ... it's similar to PC current patch runs but some things are different due to RTA timing. That said not all guides are on SRC and not many speedrunners are still here, I suggest you look and/or ask in the speedrun server in pins.
Aight cool thanks
RTA?
Real Time vs PC which uses loadless time
... so? If they try to submit it they'll be caught. If not 
sure
?
rocker leg
true
I really want to learn to speed run but I only have this game on my switch 
There are switch leaderboards
can someone point me in the direction of the instructions for downpatching hk on steam? A little lost
It’s really simple, right click, properties, public betas, probably 1221
need a beta code for that
finished my first properly recorded and timed speedrun!! Got a time of 1hr07mins but forgot the route which lost me a bit of time lol
this was for Any% NMG btw
This was my first ever successful Hollow Knight speedrun! I had made lots of minor mistakes and even forgot the route for a hot minute but I got there at the end! If you like this content please don't forget to subscribe!
nice! do you have a goal time in mind?
2:16 clean as hell
i wanted a sub 1 hr run but it was my first so I wasn't dissapointed and i know what I need to learn to get better at
thanks i am still trying to master the 2 in one kill
you jumped a bit early i think
honestly hard for me to say exactly bc i do it based off vibes lmfaoo. i usually stay in the center of that platform up until i go for it and i haven’t missed it yet
although i only started doing it recently. anyway, good job regardless!! you can easily and quickly reach sub-hour
thanks!
if u pick a good RNG u can leave false knight room with 3:13.???
but normally u can leave with 3:16
in current patch
No I wouldn't even dare try that
try master deepnest patch
Yeah had a bad start and the run was very unoptimised
Ok thanks for the advice
usually QGA is the most boring skip to do, I know that in 1.2 it is a much more agile route, but at first it's very tiring to lose several and several runs for a measly skip.
now i can see u doing u speedrun in 1.2
so u can push more than me
and its is good
Thanks
I had a massive mental blank when going to fog canyon and just completely forgot where the acid skip room was lol. It wasted so much time
Yeah normally I am fine when practicing but I just couldn't get it. Probably the nerves
in training it rarely goes wrong, but at the time of the run everything bad happens
Yeah that's just how it be
Yesterday i did my PB and im done with speedruns
my goal was to make under 39, I would have had a better time if I hadn't been so nervous at THK, I lost a lot of advantage along the run because of that, but I'm happy
Damn what did you get?
u can!!
Btw I like the main menu background what is it?
1.2 is the fastest patch ever
Steel Soul ending
achievement*
Ah makes sense. I havent bothered trying that yet
its a pretty challenge but
I think playing the vanilla game without upgrades is more challenging and makes you refine your movement and spell use
Yeah that makes sense
Just watched some parts of your video and I gotta say you are really good
thanks
nice dude!, i quit after i realized how hard watcher knights is
xD
lmao me too
im pretty fast i just cant beat wk
There are categories that focus more on movement compared to bosses if you want to try some. Like awr, grubsong, al1ba, ass etc.
nice run :)
TY!
yeah but idk man i just wanna beat 48 minutes and im too bad lmao
its better at start to be patient in bosses rather than diyng so many times
Best is to practice a ton so that you can be confident while being agressive.
yeah thats the problem
i spent like 3 hours on wk im just too bad
even when i dont rush
like i can beat them with the gear, but only like 10% of the time
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my w was dirty lol
Is this possible without the lantern
yes
Is there a vid?
(after 1.1? 1.0? patches when they removed deepnest toll)
you do the same thing as when there is light, but in the dark
1.1.1.4 removed it
Sub 3 hours let’s go
theres this one time i beat the game in 2 hours and 30 minutes :))))
__ I would have never done it without that advice.__
use debug and savestate to train this dropdown
watching a high-level all skills run should help give a feel for where you want to go in those rooms
I just kept going into dark Deepnest and fumbling about until I learned the layout
I practiced it for 5 hours and desided it was too hard so I switched from any% to all skills.
I can do them now. But I still prefer all skills over any%
“Precept (insert number here) do not peer into the darkness” -Zote the mighty
Ayo i got the bounce 
"Don't you ever speak to me or my little brother ever again"
-Hornet probably

is it possible to get the speedrun achievements without any insane skips?
like no super intense timings or luck dependant
now that i think about it how early can you get DDark? cus you only really need crystal dash to get past the gap
The main idea is getting Dive from city crest entry, getting geo for lantern if you need to see, going to cpeak from dive entry, pick up cdash and then go to DDark
It deals a lot of damage and gives you iframes
wasnt there 2 entrances to crystal peaks from crossroads?
there's the dive above
and then the paywall on the lower part
but you need lamp for that
Yeah, but you can't get DDark without dive anyway
are you sure about that? i think i remember a video that showed you can actually get void first
That's only Shade Soul, unless you noclip
i dont know if you understand what im trying to say
my idea is getting lamp, buying the door below to skip doing city of tears early for dive, getting cdash, THEN get ddark
you mean this one?
Does anyone here know why the rolling baldurs in ancestral mound would be doing a super short roll animation?
on older patches the distance they roll is framerate dependant
so your framerate is probably fairly high
yeah capping your framerate will also make some flying enemies stop moving at lightning speeds
don't cap it too low though otherwise you start getting input lag issues
Good to know that's a problem I'll never have to face
Looks like limiting the framerate worked. Thanks so much!
how do i cancel my submission of the run?
i forgot to read the rules and i don't want to disturb the mods
if you go to your submission, you should be able to delete it
i can only edit the run
Link the submission
I've got an issue where the Follies are moving way too fast in the Soul Sanctum... Any idea why?
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I've got mods downloaded and installed, but they're not enabled (the mod api is disabled in scarab)
yesterday their crazy turbo-the-snail speed killed a run
just for reference I have benchwarp, debugmod, itemchanger, menuchanger, qol, randomizer 4, randomizerCore, and Vasi downloaded (again not enabled)
what fps are you playing on? i've heard that some enemies, like vengeflies and follies, move stupidly fast if you're over 300ish fps
are you playing on steam?
and I turned vsync off, so it's probly not capped
yeah steam
wait yeah I've been having some issues with vengefiles too now that I think about it
I just figured I was losing it though XD
go into steam -> top left corner -> Steam -> Settings -> In-Game -> In-game FPS Counter
holy crap 600fps
but it's weird because i play on 400fps and have never experienced this
holy crap that was it
you're a lifesaver
I turned on "framerate cap" option in the menu, and it capped it at 400 (why 400, idk) and now the follies are moving normally
apparetnly 600 is too fast for them
oh @finite flame just for consistency
ah so thats why im capped at 400fps
what version are you on? there are video tutorials based on patch
you can edit the cap number on the config.ini file in your game folder (just open it with like notepad)
defaults to 400
we recommend 200-300 generally
longest part killing the kingsmould
i never attempted actual speedrunning and just watched some speedrunning videos, but i have a question after watching the videos: is it possible to not get lumafly lantern for the any% speedrun?
🧐
The toll can't be interacted with in the dark room if that's what you're wondering
Well, not really
You can also get crystal heart with the dive entrance to cpeak, or alternatively do the mag Isma's route that non-runners love so much
One of cdash or Isma's is hard required to get to Monomon though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYZrM_tfKMQ
I am dying for somebody to explain this run
the only any% all glitches guide I could find was last updated 4 years ago
If you join the speedrunning discord in the pins^ of this channel and find the glitched section there's a couple guides that go over this/similar stuff, and even better there's a bunch of people there who would be happy to help or explain how this works.
cool, ill do that, thanks
You just start a godseeker file hit the hardsave quit out and dupe the main menu load into kp with noclip put on charms place a dgate at black egg store the crossroads stag then go left right down left right down left right up left right up left right left down right left right transition storage dive left right left then get airwalk enter archives go up left down skip uumuu enter the dream three times get monomons quitout dgate overcharm fury and kill thk
lol im currently watching your youtube tutorial on this
It was on stream and very rough lol, hope it’s helpful
Alright, so, let me reiterate my question wrongly asked in #hk-help 😅
Tips for collector scream skip? i've been struggling to execute it and i've only done it once
Pantheons or overworld?
Pantheons
yeah ok pantheons can be weird cause it's load dependant, so the timing will be different for different people, and will also be different the first time that room loads since opening the game.
I don't run pantheon stuff at all so if you wanted some more experienced help I'd recommend going to the speedrunning discord (link in the pins of this channel) and asking in #il-combat there. Will be a lot more people who are knowledgeable there
Alrighto, thanks!
Is this new 👀
Solid pasta
Yes lmao
W8, that's a decent pasta to actually remember order of movement. Thank you 5b!
Haha moist critical just gave any radiance a shout out
who
penguinz0, moist critikal is the other name they go by
the guy that screamed “YEAHHHH BABY, THAT’S WHAT I’VE BEEN WAITING FOR, THAT’S WHAT ITS ALL ABOUT” and became a meme
Hello, i am new to speedrunning, just checking it for fun, livesplit doesnt seem to start the timer. what do i do?
if this was ur first time downloading splits off hksplimaker, sometimes the autosplits can be wiped
try redownloading the splits
Thanks that worked
New pop wr has been delayed until silksong releases, sorry
Yeah sorry
i’m finally a gamer
This was already gamer, Now your a legend
For someone who isnt good with alk the skips and stuff what is the good speedrun to try?
How should I go about starting to learn current patch? (I’m on a computer that needs that or it can’t run sadly) I’ve played a decent 8 or so playthroughs. Should I just review the path and start trying?
I would advice having debug mod downloaded for practice. So that you can start practicing if you find a place you get stuck.
8 mask shards maybe?
Hmmmm interesting
I think i remember the route
Hey I've watched many speedruns and they all seem to ignore my favorite room
How does a thisroom% speedrun sound?
sounds like good spike tunnel practise
Would it just be TE shadeskip to right side into cursed spike tunnel
used to be used when this was the main speedrunning server
the only reason youd need/want the role is to see archived channels
and how do i get it?
it's not given anymore. (The requirement used to be a verified run on SRC, which is the current requirement for the role in the speedrunning server)
if you need something from the archived channels we can give the stuff/info to you
max% dashless and elegy% both go through that room
For a main board category, All Achievements goes through there
Mostly to kill flipbugs
i tested some cursed quit out strats that would have ge go through that room
idea being you can kill dd on the way to godhome
Having to finish the journal really scuffs the All Achievements route
Hope you like colo 3 because you have to do it twice
is there a way to reset PoP? close the gate after room 2 and Just start at the beginning?
download the MiniSavestates dll
it’s allowed for Path of Pain if you’re submitting to leaderboards
https://github.com/Yurihaia/MiniSavestates/releases/download/1.5/Assembly-CSharp.dll here’s the latest version
once you download it, drag it into “hollow_knight_data/managed” and when it asks something about replacing current file, click yes
when you wanna turn it off and you’re on steam, i just verify integrity of game files
virus
most path of pain runners use minisavestates lmao
Also speedrun com?
yea, that’s what i meant by leaderboards
Hmm
i dunno of any other hk leaderboard websites
the timer starts as soon as you enter the first room
if you go to the hk splitmaker website and search for path of pain, it has a livesplit setup premade
if I enter or if I see it?
ah nice
once you go through the transition behind the breakable wall
nice, thanks!
lol for some reason it does not work for me without problems
yeah that happened to me once
i just restarted
then loaded the savestate as soon as i got off the white palace bench
also deleted every mod
so I cant access PoP again
kinda weird
cant you combine that minisavestates with any mods?
dunno, but speedrun.com doesn’t allow modding API anyway
sad
you have to download a new save for path of pain from the resources section
because
I only have a save with the wall already broken
and I dont think thats allowed
nice good to know
the wall being broken or not doesn’t matter, timer doesn’t start in that room anyway
huh
watch where the timer starts https://youtu.be/rgyxchSAVz8
lol where do I find the file
click the Resources tab on speedrun.com then scroll down to saves
actually
@nova stream
you can change the number in the file name if that slot is already taken and you don’t wanna delete the preexisting save
nice run.
thanks
quick question, how do the minisavestates work? cus i have it downloaded but do i have to do something to activate it?
did you put it into your hollow knight managed folder?
no it says minisavestates active, i was just won dering how does it work
F2 is to make a savestate, F1 is to load it
got it, ty
is there a geo guide somewhere for any% nmg?
@hidden shale Is there any guide for the speedrun route/strats you used in your video? Cant find anything about it
not that i know of
you kinda just have to watch other runs and implement their strats into your own runs
Alright
I believe either @thorny musk or @ember reef was making a pop guide, can’t remember which one, and I’m not sure if it’s finished either
I lost motivation for it, since watching other people's runs is so easy for such a short category
I do have a short runthrough of the strats I'd recommend a new runner to learn, once they get past trying to generally get a hitless run
target is like a 2:15 to 2:20 with these strats, and I find everything here the easiest method of getting approx that time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1K_riXxuHc
I wouldn't recommend starting learning pop with this tho
You'll need to practice so much it'll be demotivating, work on getting a run around 2:40 first
I cant do the spike skip jump at all
Yeah, I don't think new runner should do it. It's a really really hard thing to pull of, so... Just lose some time going through right side and doing cdash. I'm not a pop runner, so if Cyren or Northirn say differently - listen to them.
Alright
good 4 u
please troll in #sk-discussion
nah i definitely agree. thorn skip is not worth it at all for beginning runners. going to the right only loses like, 4-6 seconds so just go right
in my opinion, you should only do thorn skip if you have a time around 2:10-2:20 (or if you just wanna do it for fun)
i saw one person on speedrun.com who had a 2:08 without using thorn skip
so
That’s Cyren wasn’t it
cyren is insane
also here <@&283547423706447872> every channel basically even #livestreams
alright
upvote for eden bgm
Gotta go fast
You telling me there are more channels than this one?
First message
reply ping 
worst message
There's literally like 30 messages of people suggesting Death% as a category so you're objectively wrong
lmao ok that's fair
I think we should make a category called Live%
The goal is to live as fast as possible
wouldn’t death% be literally impossible to optimize other than nail wall slashes
I'm not even gonna honour the shitpost that is that category idea with a proper answer
understandable
clearly the optimal death% goes up to the spikes to die without the hinderence of I frames
optimal death% ran on 1.3+ to inv drop into early control chain hits
Eat me too. Is kinda the same idea just funny.
Welp thats not big but its my record for beating up hk fastly
Could've skip some part tbh
Btw if you have any tips to improve tell me
47% is quite a lot. What abilities did you get?
How do I create multiple installations of the game? The link to a guide in the Practicing section at https://www.speedrun.com/hollowknight/guide/j234z leads to an error page.
What get skin
butterfly???? It
looks really nice :O
I had shade soul, abyss shriek and desolate dive
I mean at leasy i did it under 10h for the succes so im quite happy about it
What movement abilities did you get?
Double jump and huh mantis claw with super dash
And the dash ofc
I think going to the abysses was waste of time lmfao
For now, I'd recommend not going for shriek. (I would also recommend not going for shade cloak and wings, because they are absolutely not needed). You can get into spire with Lurien by pogoing background object (that can be quite precise, but it's fast to retry). And the way you would get to Monomon is by performing an acid skip from crossroads into fog canyon
I'll have to start training for this xD
just a quick tutorial for the acid skip before Uumuu
Not all people want to do QGA but this skip is pretty mandatory, so a quick tutorial might be helpful
Have a great day and take care! cy@!
Things I recommended don't require like a lot of training. That's why I didn't say anything about shade skip or dark room in cpeaks, or darknest, and so on. Also 2 skips I mentioned are used it tons of categories, so they are good for general speedrunning knowledge
DABS% Destroy all backer signs
Oh nice
how much does 1432 spore shroom any% route lose?
Something like 20 I believe
That skin is called Blue Story
Although the HUD elements are from Butterfly knight
Soul of Steel is easy(don't take it to serious)
guys where I can download the speedrun mod to make speedruns in hk?
Modding api is NOT allowed in speedruns, unless you are doing modded category run
i'm not going to post speedruns and shit
its just for fun 🙂
big fast
my game keeps softlocking after hornet 1 reset, can't get off the bench, what am i doing wrong?
I'd make a joke about how 1.2.2.1 is broken and bad, but I'm refraining from it because I have a feeling nobody would get that it's a joke so instead y'all are just getting this
try clearing the registry
Does fireborn have any guides for speedrunning categories other than the 5 hour speedrun achievement? I really liked that guide
I found it very useful
Or any other person who has a comprehwns8ve guide like that
Also, there are insane amount of categories, but not all have guides
So if you want any advices - I recommend joining server pinned here. People there are super friendly and can help with a lot of things
1.2.2.1 is an absolute dumpsterfire, one of the worst optimised 2D games ever
The solution is to simply have a better PC though
But then I wouldn't have an excuse for being bad
Just blame Uumuu
Not sure if this is a vali description reference or just a general life advice
General life advice, no matter what happens, even in other games or out in the real world, blame Uumuu
I get really sad when
Wow, what a cliffhanger
I get sad when I see others get angry at Uumuu. Sad, because I know that they’re actually angry at themselves, for having terrible Watcher Knight and Hollow Knight fights. Because Uumuu is so easy to optimize, they take their anger out on him, becoming more and more insecure and never addressing their own personal problems. I just wish more people understood that RNG doesn’t ruin runs: speedrunners ruin runs.
homothety based
W8, was it homothety who made this pasta?
afaik
It used to be pinned here lmfao
I really thought vali made it himself
A lot of our pasta is as ancient as the spaghetti that makes up this game
The original is here, but it requires speedrunner to see: #any-percent-nmg message
The pinned one in #any-percent-nmg is from a bit later.
A sad day to not have a speedrunner role
Well, I guess I'll sleep, so I wake up in a less sad to not have a speedrunner role day
It means nothing in here anymore
We get to chat in the super secret chat
do you guys actually still talk in the hidden channels or nah
Nah, they're locked, I think the mods can talk there but we wanted to keep them visible for us in case we needed info from there
ah, gotcha
Proposition: mantis lords%, has fun skips, Hornet fight, similar to any% most of the time, and ends on the objectively best early game boss in the game
Goal btw is to kill mantis lords
General route would be skip false knight, getVS, do any% up until claw, and then go down and do mantis lords boss
Imo would be kinda fun probably sub 12 possible perhaps
Probably not since any% comsob is a 9:05 up to claw
And low equip mantis lords will definitely take plenty of time
Oh true, so sun 15 would be considered top time
Low equip mantis lords might be kinda hype if ur on wr pace tho
1.0.0.6 is magnitudes worse
I don't think a single person here can actually have the base patches run well without random lag spikes
No matter how much I love 1.0.3.7 for some categories I can't pretend it runs well all the time
Those who play on 1221 consistently have good enough PC's to do so, a lot of people just can't do that
It's why we made the 1.4.3.2+ boards on src
ok
I just kinda realised it's Graig who responded earlier, been a bit since I saw him here
1.0.0.6 is optimal for like, White Palace Individual Level runs
But you need a NASA PC to run it
A bit if lever skipping, and you can also just jump to the right atrium lever, skipping all the platforming there (on lp you can also do it with a slopeball)
dang
Only on 1.0.0.6 (and 1.0.0.5)
blue story with butterfly's ui
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/836967934160797736/965382860301287534/blue_story.7z
THX <3
Slowrun?
Go to #slowrunning for that
seen people use slow run as casual play through
I can't make too much fun of it being 4th to last in any% but it's a bit of a stupid idea to do a "run" just to get a bad leaderboard spot
On that if someone submits a 10 hour any% run we'll probably just reject it
Kinda want to get into speedrunning path of pain just for the fun. How do i redo path of pain?
you practice with debug save states
Quit out instead of watching the ending cutscene
If you do that your run will be invalid
They said they wanted to do it for fun, so does it matter?
why is my downpatched game (1.2.2.1) capped at 30 fps, even tho i got 60hz and all that
Wr is 1:30?
probably just rng
yea I though we is like under a min but idk
i forgot to say thank you, this fixed audio oddities as well
If the WR for absrad is 43 seconds then regular radiance is an entire phase shorter
Probably like, 35 seconds or smth
I mean it depends what your split points are. The classic split points for regular Radiance are dream entry -> game end which includes having to climb up to "challenge" the fight and the title screen.
106% comsob for those split points is a 1:33, and TE AG comsob is a 1:35 (assuming sheets are up to date)
from where to where
if i had to guess 106% comsob is the fastest recorded radiance fight, and that would be the place to look for a "world record" radiance
106 comsob kills Radiance as fast as its even possible
It's always 2 guaranteed attacks total so "running" the fight would just be 2 RNG checks if you get sword spiral or reset
W8, are flukes THAT op in 106 that Radiance attacks only twice?
Yeah
112 damage every cast, cast speed of Shade Soul and doesn't inflict iframes
Even if that wasn't enough 1.1.1.4 flukes would deal 144 damage each cast
I really love the fact that 1114 flukes are like, better than everything there is in the game
It's just insane how much damage they deal
You can plain kill a Wingmould with 7 casts as long as you don't hit it with the nail
W8, you can kill wingmould??? I love 1114
Wingmould regains health to 999 if hit, but before 1.3 flukes didn't register as a hit, it just removed health
Lmao
On later patches you may be able to kill them by using Spore shroom but it'd take forever
can’t beat wk
and?
Now you can. https://youtu.be/Oc-_Vg-Y8ME
Can I ask why nobody really runs all glitches any%?
That's why I don't run any%
Because NMMS is way better.
Also glitch categories are just less active in general
Do they require downpatching?
Lol
They used to until room dupes iirc
You just have to main menu storage, and someother ones I haven't memorized.
So I could learn glitch any% right out of the box without setting things up?
Ehm, I don't know for sure. Just jump over to the speedrun server and ask someone smart like @hollow cedar
He made a main menu storage tutorial iirc
Check the pins in #any-percent-glitched in the speedrun discord
yo it's Fivebrane
Yo pog
Hey, I found a glitch when I was playing and I think it can be used somehow.
do you have a video
i wasint rec sorry
explain what the glitch is
So I ran into a room and I started to fall slowly to the bottom
anything else with that? or just the slow falling
well i could move and when i used the nail it stoped
slow falling like that is an effect/by-product of many "storage" glitches. it's not overly useful except a few niche scenarios
oh okay well thx for telling me
nice find though. and thx for sharing it
no prob
question, what frames does hollow knight run on the switch? I tried and actually managed to pull off a stall ball, does that mean it's 60fps?
yes its locked to 60
But slopeball can be performed on any fps, it's just that it's 100% consistent on 50 (I think its 50), and on any higher fps there's a chance that you would fall it just because of fps, even with perfect execution
tbh I'm just tryna get the 5h achievement so
I'm about 1h and a half in, got wings claw heart and cloak
and dream nail ofc
gotten Lurien
which dreamer should I go for next?
?srpsa
Reminder: This category is intended for competitive speedrunning discussion. Questions about achievements should be directed to #hk-help.
Guide for the 5hr speedrunning achievement: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1861523602
Hey y’all! I want to get into HK speedrunning but I don’t really know where to start, this is the first game I’ve ever speedran before and since I’m on console I can’t do most glitches, any help is welcome!
Oh
whats the name of the timer app/mod/whatever that speedrunners use?
livesplit
ty
what time would a speedrunner get mantis vengful spirit and dash
btw i have only done false knight, picked up no charms and is abt to get city spell
depends on what category said speedrunner is doing
true ending
getting claw takes up to around 12 minutes loadless
o lol i got it in 13
i mean if ur new ur gonna be slower
i think for te ur looking at like a 9:30
not 100% familiar with its exact timings
TE also gets dream nail early
I have an idea for a hollow knight meme Speedrun were you get all minions and then die in steelsoul mode I call it hollow knight absent father%
Sounds like Marissa audience% but with dying at the end
ah ye i smol brained, should be like 13-14 min
Kinda
what happened that needed mods
Someone claimed Hornet isn't void, was taken care of
seriously waht happened
Someone sent a link to a random ass discord server that probably just was one of those that hack your account
Why do you care?
becasue hornet isnt void so what you said was obviously a lie
the mods wouldnt ban someone for speaking the truth
😳

Any good YouTubers to watch for a good route?
if it's a route you're looking for in general, i would recommend going to the hollow knight page on speedrun.com, find a category you're interested in learning about and watch some runs from the leaderboard
if you're looking for guides on specific routes, i'm unsure of specifics, but i'm sure for the main categories someone has explanations / guides around the place, maybe not youtube specifc though
PowerPoint
Thanks man
BlueSR
Hey folks, quick speedrun question. I notice that one of the categories is 106% TE. I was wondering what 106 avoids from the full completion of 112 APB. Godhome makes up 5% of the completion percentage, would anyone know where the missing 1% is?
hive knight
That makes sense. I guess it is run on the patch before lifeblood and godhome.
It's why the misc tab has a 107% category
Hey ! Going into hk speedrunning, but i've a pb my controller isn't detected on the 1221 version
yeah 1221 didn't support some controller types
Best bet is to use a different program like AntiMicro or Joy2Key to map controller inputs to key presses
Hey, does the time of my game pauses when I pause the game?
Like the time the save file displays?
I don’t believe it does but the timer on the save is very very finicky and I don’t quite understand how it works
Only TC can truly know how the in game timer works, we're more concerned if it works
i’m pretty sure the in-game timer does pause when you pause the game. if you mean livesplit, then no, it doesn’t. it only pauses for like, a second since it has to load the menu
I have think I heard it does, though it really doesn't matter in speedrunning as we don't use it.
also yes the in game timer is a mystery on its own
Does anyone know why it sometimes zeroes out?
i don’t think team cherry even knows how the in-game timer works
🍝
Thx ^^
I checked this some time and it’s really dumb but I don’t remember it exactly
I think it’s like if it was exactly an hour it displays as 0 instead? I will verify later
the time you get can also make the end% completion break
and show like 57% or somethingg
Time to route 57%, the category where you need to have loads be the right length
<@&283547423706447872> ?
Thanks
wait is hornet void or no?
also whats so bad about people mistaking the lore to where moderators have to remove their messages about it?
Lore wise, no, it's just a joke where speedrunners insist that Hornet is void no matter what, I also didn't think the person really had a reason to ask why we needed the mods' help so I didn't give a serious answer
ohhh
<@&283547423706447872>
yes it is
Ok
Hornet is not void
ok?
Why do speedrunners fireball before the hornet fight
This discord server doesn't work
It's to skip the dialogue with hornet. For some reason, if you fireball her before the dialogue starts, the fight will begin immediately (note: this fireball doesn't deal damage, iirc)
Oooh right i didn't notice
Get the milk%
I need to know, how known is the grub-vengefly skip?
the what
no
if that's what you're referring to, then very known
random ping for a question that was already answered
Wrong channel xd
radiant false knight death speedrun : less than one second 
is there a debug mod for the most recent patch and if so does it have the save point thing for practicing?
everywhere online I look it tries to get me to download 1.2.2.1 and 1.4.3.2
Yes
Guess what, most videos on YouTube are outdated as fuck
Check #archived-modding-help pins and get scarab, debug mod is on there
Hi, i want to begin to Speedrun hollow knight. Category : true end. Do you have tips for me ? (I'm a beginner and i'm french)
I play on switch
hi! true ending's a pretty intricate category and generally more difficult than other more-run categories, but theres plenty of tips and whatnot that can help
butttt also standing on my pedestal of former wr holder for 1.4+ te nmg i can give a good amount of help. what specifically do you need help with?
Yeah. So, most nmg categories have 2 sub categories - NMG and 1.4.3.2+ NMG. NMG is the fastest allowed patch, and 1.4.3.2+ NMG is any allowed patch that released after 1.4.3.2 or 1.4.3.2 itself (mainly 1.4.3.2, 1.5.7.8 and some people use 1.5.7.5). I
You play on switch, so your patch is 1.4.3.2
Ok, thank you very much
Also, slight correction. Usually we use "route" instead of "road". It's not a huge deal, most people will understand you, but just as a sidenote
Okay
theres a few routes that are generally used: current wr uses the shriek route, previous wr uses shade soul route, and the most beginner-friendly route gets both. shriek and shade soul are roughly the same length with shriek route being ~40s faster optimally
ill leave pastebins for each here
shade soul only: https://pastebin.com/Vx1d7MzE
shriek only: https://pastebin.com/bfru1T23
combined shade soul + shriek: https://pastebin.com/SbQXipaN
generally recommend the combined route starting off as it's the easiest, but your choice as to which to start with
splits for each can be downloaded here: https://hksplitmaker.com
and if you have any more nuanced questions, i recommend joining the dedicated speedrun server (pinned here) and asking in the true ending chat there. more likely to get better help there


