#speedrunning
sage moon
latent lichen
yoooo I got it 3 times in a row
cunning night
im trying to learn qga are there any tips for practicing
sage moon
im trying to learn qga are there any tips for practicing
The trick is to go lower than you think you should and charge Crystal Dash later than you think,
If you go to high than you won't be able to charge C-dash and if you try charging too early it'll eat your input.
pure wolf
@regal acorn ask here
rapid python
whats the best way to set up a auto split for Hollowknight
vagrant warren
You mean manually vs. something like hksplitmaker? really comes down to preference I suppose
rapid python
You mean manually vs. something like hksplitmaker? really comes down to prefere...
I want it to split for me, no buttons involved, if thats possivle
vagrant warren
If you're on PC, that's what's required - livesplit has an autosplitter for Hollow Knight. But you can make them yourself, or download pre-made splits.
rapid python
If you're on PC, that's what's required - livesplit has an autosplitter for Holl...
where can i find this
vagrant warren
Just google livesplit & it should come up.
rapid python
i got livesplit
vagrant warren
?guides
sick ravenBOT
vagrant warren
there is a guide to set it up there, or you can download splits from hksplitmaker.com
round kelp
I am learning dark deepnest for the first time. Any tips or guides would be appreciated
sage moon
I just practice on a save with lantern
round kelp
I just practice on a save with lantern
That’s what I did for peaks. Doing a no spending run but wasn’t sure if there was another easy option
sage moon
That’s what I did for peaks. Doing a no spending run but wasn’t sure if there wa...
Save states maybe
round kelp
I actually just made it to the top of deepnest! Got all the way back out. Now just to not die on the way to safety.
sage moon
Wait, you're doing dark deepnest without any practice beforehand whatsoever?
Also some crisp response time on my part
Also also good job
round kelp
Wait, you're doing dark deepnest without any practice beforehand whatsoever?
Yeah, what’s the worst that could happen 
I’m at the black egg and it would still be sub 5h if I finish in the next 20 minutes or so
sage moon
Yeah, what’s the worst that could happen <:zotewheeze:718225348164059187> I’m at...
Doesn't any% get lantern before doing Deepnest?
round kelp
Doesn't any% get lantern before doing Deepnest?
Well I’m doing a no spending right
round kelp
I just do dumb challenge runs now 
sage moon
I got a dumb run for you
round kelp
I only do console so I can’t mod and the spicy skips are a bit of a reach for me
round kelp
So as much as I’d like to do low% I have never tried a fireball skip and don’t know if I want to
sage moon
Rough picture of the route
sage moon
So as much as I’d like to do low% I have never tried a fireball skip and don’t k...
It doesn't require any fireball skips
round kelp
So what’s the big fun? No fireball, but still get dash, then do true ending?
No fast travel either?
sage moon
Not really a challenge run per say, just something I like to run
round kelp
Well cool, even with my diversions like ddark and learning that darkroom plus the two others my no spending run is complete with 31% at 4:58:02!
sage moon
pretty lenient achievement I guess
round kelp
Right? I tried qga a bit, then even went and got tear
Because I saw I had a lot less darknest to do that way
sage moon
qga isn't too bad when you get used to it
You know what would be funny?
Getting your friends to go through all of deepnest without lantern
I never realized how terrifying it was until I did it
round kelp
And with the no spending, it was terrifying hoping I wouldn’t die on the way back to the cornifer bench. Can’t use a toll bench if you can’t spend 
sage moon
The one with the king's idol
round kelp
shows how much attention I’ve payed in 500 hours
sage moon
Most people don't pay enough attention to backgrounds
They're really pretty
Godhome ones included
hearty spruce
how mutch geo is there in the watches spire chest again im routing a speedrun
sage moon
uhhhhh
hearty spruce
i know its annoying
sage moon
655
sage moon
There's this thing called "hollow knight ultimate geo" I found
hearty spruce
ive been looking for a while
hearty spruce
thanks
sage moon
No problem
hearty spruce
btw ive been wanting to know if anyone has encountered this: if i quit out and close the game while in the watcher knight fight then re open it beat them
sage moon
Never happened to me
sage moon
btw ive been wanting to know if anyone has encountered this: if i quit out and c...
Might try asking somewhere else too, #speedrunning is usually pretty quiet
hearty spruce
ok
undone relic
how long does it take for hollow knight speedrun mods to see your submission?
weary root
It appears right away at the end of the queue. Submissions are pretty high atm so it could be a while before we get to it.
wary star
hi i have a question about dreamgate in the debug menu someone can help me ?
wicked trench
Ask away
vagrant warren
Might try asking somewhere else too, <#283467985224466442> is usually pretty qui...
That's because most of the speedrun discussion has moved to the new server (in pins), this is just still here for beginners to ask questions and/or get directed there if they decide to take things more seriously.
wary star
so i select the location using the dreamgate menu, then click on it, but when i dreamgate it dont warp it just create the dreamgate on the map
wicked trench
I never used that option, don't really know how that works
I for the meantime I suggest you to use benchwarp + debug mod to teleport in the map (or set d.gates), till someone else can help you better than me
snow dome
Check the pins in the server. Somebody else just asked this and was essentially given the response "use save states, dream gate feature might actually just be broken"
latent lichen
do you guys have any tips for learning the route?
I have a rough idea on were to go but idrk exactly (for things like CDash and beasts den)
snow dome
?guides
sick ravenBOT
latent lichen
ah, thank you
brave elk
After I get 2400 essence then I can warp 2400 times
rapid python
1.4 is good for speedrunning right? Has the Explosion pogo?
rapid python
im asumming its 1.2
steady lynx
Old epogo is only on 1.2 and earlier
sage moon
That's because most of the speedrun discussion has moved to the new server (in p...
That explains it
Also holy cheezits those are a lot of channels
grave kiln
So would I be able to have a HK on current patch and a HK on 1.2??
Yes, using multiple installations I believe. But it's not really worth the effort unless you'll be switching around a lot.
rapid python
Yes, using multiple installations I believe. But it's not really worth the effor...
I need it bc i speedrun and my friend likes to do Multiplayer Randos.
snow dome
?guides
sick ravenBOT
snow dome
You cancopy your files using the method in the downpatch guide here (the section titled multiple installs) then down patch through the steam beta system.
stiff anvil
I just finished my first run and I think I want to get into speedruns of this game but idk where to start
wicked trench
<https://www.speedrun.com/hollowknight/guides>
Your can start by looking here if you want more technical stuff
Or watch some speedruns on YouTube and/or Twitch if you have no idea how they are done
steady lynx
Furthermore you can join the server in the pins to join the rest of the community
inland egret
I wonder which category I should speedrun first (I am a new speedrunner)
steady lynx
For main boards try any% or All Skills
Category extensions 4ms or Grubsong% are considered good
analog monolith
yeah any% and all skills are considered among the "easiest" of the mainboard categories, with imo all skills being the easiest optimally and any% having ample room for easier routes
but yeah, if ur ok starting off with memes then things like grubsong% or 3 vessel fragments (king's route) are nicer than either of those
sleek flare
i was wondering what 2x or 0x means in speedruns
or like the ratio-x thing people say
is it like compared to previous runs?
steady lynx
It's mostly like if someone says they're going for a 32:3x for example, it just means anything in the 32:31 to 32:39 range
The x is any digit
austere belfry
hey, i was trying to downpatch hollow knight to 1.2.2.1 but the cmd keeps saying "lost connection to steam" reconnecting and then loosing connection again, any help?
true palm
Um idk internet might be bad, my advice is to just go to the Betas tab for hollow knight in Steam
1221 is a beta there now
formal sky
Yoo, got my first sub 50
austere belfry
1221 is a beta there now
wait fr?
true palm
ye
true palm
gl
austere prism
going for the speedrun 2 achievement
keep in mind the "in game timer" does not go down when you're paused if you wanna take a break
snow dome
going for the speedrun 2 achievement
?srpsa
sick ravenBOT
Reminder: This category is intended for competitive speedrunning discussion. Questions about achievements should be directed to #hk-help.
Guide for the 5hr speedrunning achievement: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1861523602
lunar ravine
Do people speedrun pantheon 5 using overcharm builds?
Like QS, strength, shamans, steady body, soul eater?
steady lynx
Any run of P5 that doesn't use all bindings go under the "Any bindings" board on the IL
spiral oracle
keep in mind the "in game timer" does not go down when you're paused if you wann...
I appreciate it, i haven't gotten it yet but i've gotten quite close
sly timber
Speedrun 2 is sub 5 hr right?
snow dome
?srpsa
sick ravenBOT
Reminder: This category is intended for competitive speedrunning discussion. Questions about achievements should be directed to #hk-help.
Guide for the 5hr speedrunning achievement: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1861523602
hollow verge
hopping in to spitball speedrun ideas that popped into my brain:
Shaman Percent- acquire all spells, spell upgrades and charms
Drive by- kill Gorgeous husk with optional Hollow point mod for memes, bonus points for using flukenest
Illiterate percent- beat game without seeing any dialogue boxes from explicitly written sources.
Deaf Percent- Beat game without ever engaging a conversation with any npc.
Bad Financial Decisions- get robbed by millibelle as fast as possible. optional extra milestone is getting ur money back
steady lynx
At least one of these is plain impossible
old flame
Deaf Percent is without nmg not possible
steady lynx
Either Quirrel or Grimm is hard required
And that's if you can avoid funny youtube comment rules which state that you have to talk to Elderbug
old flame
To enter greenpath you either need longnail or vs
digital jewel
it's only possible with glitches
steady lynx
You're like one deaf mask shard off of getting to blue lake and getting claw through sewers
old flame
Yea but monomon has textboxes so you need to dupe another dreamer
steady lynx
Just dupe Lurien, like in the olden days
formal bough
Still for deaf% the optimal move would probably be to go to salubra and buy longnail and then do the long nail only shade skip to blue lake and follow low% AB from there
old flame
That's an interaction and textboxes from an npc
pure wolf
Lmao
formal bough
so that would be 1 salubra and 1 quirrel which I mean isn't the worst
sly timber
For minimum talking
DeafLow% probably then
steady lynx
There's also the fact that claw through waterways is just
Beyond cursed
What key would you even get?
old flame
Probably the storerooms one
steady lynx
I think Basin would be possible with 6 masks
I don't think you can get to storerooms
Maybe on cheater patch
formal bough
No, I think the elevator room with the grub in it pretty much stops you in your tracks
old flame
Forgot about that
formal bough
I didn't even think about getting the simple key though, without vs or glowing womb you wouldn't be able to aggro the shade
(for basin)
old flame
But with glwung Womb you could kill the baldur
formal bough
okay so maybe optimal would indeed be 2 conversations to leave crossroads
steady lynx
And then just low%, but without stags
formal bough
which would be lame as it's the same thing as what https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avBWVGSXtKo came up with and that's laame
Wait hold on no
I remember this now
The strat is long nail into wraiths
formal bough
that's why I tried to do itemless wraiths in the first place
steady lynx
Since we're opening the Salubra menu anyway we can at least get Shaman, so the game becomes playable
stable moon
textboxless isn’t even possible cp AG which I find pretty funny
knotty vigil
hi
Im so bad at speedrunning
I tried to do the normal route
and I just barely completed it in under 5 hours
like
4 hours and 56 minutes
visual pebble
Let’s go just got the 100% completion speedrunning achievement thing in 16 hours
sage moon
like
4 hours and 56 minutes
Just think of all the gold splits to be had
Also just have fun with it. Don't worry about your current skill level, it'll get better with time.
knotty vigil
I went for 100% steel soul immediately after doing 100% speedrun and my time was 3 hours faster on steel soul lel
sage moon
I guess adrenaline helps you speedrun or something
proud knoll
Well.. NMG PB so far is Dream Nail is 24, which is awful in the grand scheme of things, but y'know what, I'm proud of it. Okay, I tanked a death during that run, and there's still a lot to improve on, but considering I've only been making goes at the run for 3 days, it still shows some improvement.
sage moon
I feel like I should know what to say other than good job
But I'm drawing a very big blank
so uhhh
Good job sticking with it, I hope you get a PB that you don't think is "god awful"
proud knoll
Haha don't worry about it. I'm not expecting a tonne of praise, just wanted to kinda-tiny-a-bit-celebrate lol. Still yet to actually finish a run, but trying just to practice the start first.
sage moon
I've tried practicing the start too, but I wasn't doing to great at it so I just took a break from trying it. I might try getting back into it since I'm not in such a slump anymore (I hope)
But I guess I'm still in a slump regarding my social interactions on the internet
median hornet
is there a mod i can use to simulate speedrunning in 1.2.2.1 for cp
steady lynx
The QoL mod re-enables most 1.2.2.1 features but using any mods or even having modding api installed is banned from runs on the main src board
median hornet
Cool, thanks. Just speedrunning for fun, not for boards
snow dome
You can just run on current patch
hidden estuary
or just on 1.2.2.1
sage moon
My mind is blown
knotty vigil
Does the uumuu one cycle strat for 1221 TE work on current patch
sage moon
Probably not given how CP is CP, but I have no idea.
snow dome
Why respond
steady lynx
No, Uumuu can not go out of bounds on 1.3+, unlike on 1221
There's another way
sawayoshi I think goes for it
knotty vigil
Isn’t it also possible with ddark
steady lynx
Yeah, that's done for current patch AS
sage moon
Why respond
Because no-one else was
And also I think I remember someone saying that it wasn't possible on CP
wicked trench
yes you can
I do that with the same set-up that we use in any% current patch
knotty vigil
Oh the one where you lure him into the middle platform right
wicked trench
Oh the one where you lure him into the middle platform right
no, the one where you get him in the left side and then go for doubles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fj438TbxU7w
Here I've done it with quick d.nail but it's not needed - I was just practicing with that on
neon marten
gud
knotty vigil
Thanks!
spare vector
Not sure if this is useful vanilla nintendo switch (check hk discussion for tutorial)
proud knoll
Wow somebody sure likes overcharming
final elk
The abandoned jonies is so funny to me
sage moon
Wow somebody sure likes overcharming
The best part is that he isn't
spare vector
I was screwing around with a glitvh that stores the abiluty to sit on a bench
And managed to permanently be able to change charms
And so i did the charm binding
And the rest is history
Tutorial https://youtu.be/JdFGBOqztlg
Well... "tutorial." It's really just me performing the glitch
weary root
warping?
weary root
yeah that's delayed interaction
weary root
TE nmms uses exactly that set up
spare vector
Oh
weary root
to skip mound baldur
spare vector
That makes a lot of sense
weary root
112 AG already has bench storage for pantheons which is cool
spare vector
I think it has something to do either with getting hit into a transition or the bench being slanted
Or both
Probably both
weary root
I think it has something to do either with getting hit into a transition or the ...
bench storage or the delayed interaction?
spare vector
The storage
verbal stag
delayed interaction on a bench doesnt give bench storage by itself right?
spare vector
I also cant think of anywhere else an enemy is close enough to a transition
No
It just moves your x pos
weary root
there's a ton of ways to get bench storage
midnight raft
sage moon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYTjqAKHL8E
Lol
snow dome
The fact that those Glitches are happening on a switch is kind of a big deal
There's potentially room for a switch AG category!
sacred thunder
Hi! does anyone know if its possible to downpatch HK on mac?
snow dome
If you got it through steam then it is the same method
Simply opt into the beta for the patch you need
For patches not on the beta feature, you would need to dual boot into Windows or something? (Or run a virtual copy of Windows?) I'm not familiar with that, though.
pure swift
modinstaller link?
steady lynx
pure swift
do i need modinstaller for patch 1.2.2.1
is it allowed to use a speedrun mod if im not on 1.2.2.1
wicked trench
not on the leaderboard
sacred thunder
If you got it through steam then it is the same method
thanks steam worked
sage moon
I think Imma go try to do the glitch on my switch
abstract notch
Glhf
sage moon
I'll let you know if it works
abstract notch
I have no idea which glitch you're refering to so, gl
sage moon
Tutorial https://youtu.be/JdFGBOqztlg
This one
It lets you surpass the charm notch limit on switch
Here goes nothing
Sorry, long story, ended up doing a WPM test instead. Now here goes nothing
abstract notch
How high was your WPM?
sage moon
Not very
I forgor
So I can get the bench thing to glitch, and I've gotten to godhome with it but turns out you need to be in the water so you can move after doing it
abstract notch
Yeah, if you open inventory with bench storage it can just softlock you
sage moon
Been nice if I had known that before hand...
Well anyway, as for the part that I've been struggling with I just got
Turns out you need to aggro the enemy, "bench", get hit, and then "bench" again over the hole
abstract notch
Is it just bench and then get hit?
sage moon
51 WPM
You bench and get hit out of the animation or something, which lets you bench again. This time, over the hole so you fall through the loading zone while "benched"
Which is how the glitch seems to work
abstract notch
Interesting
sage moon
I'm not sure how the next part works though
Oh I see
You open the menu in the death screen
I got it
Now
abstract notch
Pog
sage moon
Oh boy
I've got multiple menus up
Shooot
I didn't pull my menu up in the death animation and now I'm softlocked
abstract notch
Okay, that's neat
abstract notch
Well, bench storage is just, banned from NMG, and NMMS have better ways to get it
sage moon
What does 'NMMS" stand for?
abstract notch
No Main Menu Storage
abstract notch
Try flukes in Eternal Ordeal, you can dupe Zote kills with it
sage moon
I'll take off defenders crest
abstract notch
Good, charm sucks anyway
sage moon
But it combos with everything
I don't know why I wanted to try this on my save with base upgrades
Flukenest is kinda fun
abstract notch
I like the fact that the hitboxes linger
sage moon
Flukenest is actually not terrible
Or maybe it's just I have over half of the charms in the game on me right now
abstract notch
Equip every single charm and do P5
sage moon
I'll switch to my main file
abstract notch
Oh I get it, you'll switch, because you're on the switch version
sage moon
So the steps to activate glitch are
- C-dash past the Flukemarm bench and spam up until the "Rest" prompt stays up, even when you're not near the bench
- Go to the right of the hole and aggro an enemy. Right before they hit you, press up/down and "bench", get hit, "bench" again over the hole, and fall through the hole while "Benched"
- If your character is leaning to the side, you got it. If not go back to step 1
- Go to Godhome without opening your menu
- Go in the soul lake thing and put the desired charms on (If you're already wearing them then skip to step 6
- Exit the lake, start a pantheon with the charm binding, and die
- As soon as the screen goes all white, open you menu and wait (If it closes itself open it again)
- Wait until you can move your and put on a charm
- If you did it all right than all your previous charms will pop-up but you'll only have the cost used of the charm you just put on
If your character isn't tilted upon entering the room mentioned in step 3, it's because you didn't fall through the loading zone while "benched"
If you get stuck in place it's because you opened your menu or the game no likey-ed something you did. You're softlocked and must reset
If you take a charm off that's glitched while in the post-pantheon state with no notches but all your charms than the notch cost value will be subtracted from your notches, so no worries about keeping track in your head. It even counts invisible notches, so if you take off Soul Eater but only have 2 notches used, It'll take away the 2 notches. If you then take away Shaman nothing visually will happen. But when you put them back on it will only add back up to 2 notches again, so that's cool (If it doesn't then you need to make sure you did step 6-7 correctly)
DO NOT OPEN YOUR MENU UNLESS YOU ARE IN WATER, IN THE PANTHEON DEATH ANIMATION, OR ON A BENCH*
As far as I know, @spare vector is the one who should be credited for this switch specific(?) discovery
I really hope I didn't make a typo or something
None of the pets work because they think I'm on a bench
They're also all tilted to the left
sage moon
So the steps to activate glitch are
1. C-dash past the Flukemarm bench and spam ...
*Resting at a bench will end your glitched bench state but keep your charms, If you want to add more charms with the glitch then you must do the glitch again. The game will treat your charms like it's totally normal to wear 39 charms at once, so it's safe to quit out and still keep your charms
It's probably a smart move too end your glitched state when you have all 39 charms on, since you can take them off whenever you sit on a bench and there's much less risk of getting softlocked
I was also 8-9 characters away from the limit for a single message and didn't get banned, so yay
Let me know if I said something blatantly wrong, There's other times I'm sure where it's safe to open your menu while glitched (Like when you get hit by an enemy or fall through a transition, both of which were kinda implied). But I'm more worried about saying something that's just flat-out wrong
abstract notch
You can get banned for posting long messages?
spare vector
If you get hit with the menu open you don't get softlocked
sage moon
You can get banned for posting long messages?
If they're long for no reason then probably
verbal stag
you can also open inv thru transitions without softlocking
sage moon
P5 is so easy
sage moon
...With the glitch
sage moon
WD?
abstract notch
White Defender
sage moon
Ahhh
sage moon
With low equipment it's a little tough
abstract notch
If you're fighting it in P5 and your name isn't GeneralMilky I'd assume you have at least DDark
sage moon
Well, You'd be wrong when I finally get around to doing it
But he's still pretty easy as long as you know what you're doing
abstract notch
Something like
descending dark gives you iframes and deals a lot of damage, so stop dying to bosses and use descending dark
sage moon
That's basically breathing when you get Ddark
abstract notch
DDark shaman deals 88 damage, it's amazing
sage moon
Fury + Strength deals 52
abstract notch
Fury Nail4 Great Slash tho
sage moon
Which just goes to show how broken it is when compared to something else that's broken
sage moon
Fury Nail4 Great Slash tho
I mean yeah
abstract notch
Spells just kinda work for 90% of cases when it comes to speedrunning since, most runs don't do pantheons
Mainly just 112 and Godhome Ending
No idea if All Bosses upgrade the nail
abstract notch
I forgot Dreamshield does, anything
sage moon
I think it also deletes radiance orbs
abstract notch
It shouldn't stop radiance lasers or swords, maybe it stops orbs
abstract notch
Dreamshield feels like Sharp Shadow to me, useful in a few scenarios but generally terrible charm
sage moon
Sharp Shadow is not a terrible charm
It has lots of uses
Like dashing through Failed Champion
Or doing any acid skip without C-dash
And S P E E D
The amount of soft skips you can do in white palace with Sharp Shadow is nuts
sage moon
You're just spoiled with Shaman, Quick Slash, Strength, and Fury
abstract notch
I do like good charms
sage moon
How quirky of you
abstract notch
Not much of one to do P5 with Gathering Swarm
sage moon
I thought you said you like good charms
abstract notch
I prefer compass
late hawk
i cant stand up
patch 1.2.2.1
abstract notch
What input method are you using?
abstract notch
Yeah, that shouldn't happen in vanilla 1221
sage moon
i cant stand up
patch 1.2.2.1
Maybe it was bench storage while on a bench?
abstract notch
That shouldn't even be possible
sage moon
Crazier things have happened
abstract notch
Could just be 1221 being 1221 doing random stuff all the time
late hawk
i deleted all mods on current version and im downloading a patch 1221 now
analog monolith
that is likely caused by registry issues from downpatching
abstract notch
So wipe registry?
abstract notch
As usual, be careful when messing around with registries, don't touch anything but HK
It shouldn't affect your saves but your ability to boot into Steelsoul on new save might disappear
As well as Godseeker
analog monolith
it may remove achievements from the game itself as well (they will stay completed in steam)
abstract notch
Free serotonin for getting the achievements again
late hawk
ok, I just had to reinstall the game to a clean folder
abstract notch
The ways of Hollow Knight are mysterious ones
boreal sinew
I am only a first time playthrougher of the game, but I found a thing at the top of the city of tears where I got hit and my physics messed up, is this found already?
abstract notch
Information provided insufficient to deduce what may have happened
sage moon
Yes
abstract notch
Similar glitches are used commonly in glitched categories
At least similar effects
boreal sinew
Coolio
sage moon
Was it with an elevator?
abstract notch
That shouldn't happen on the most recent patch, unless maybe console
digital jewel
I got hit and my physics messed up
this could be almost anything
do you remember anything else about it
abstract notch
Tell me when you find a funny video
sage moon
Youtube
sage moon
That's known I believe
abstract notch
elevator storage, yeah, happens on patches 1.5.75 and lower
analog monolith
getting hit by a hazard while in an elevator for some reason keeps the elevator momentum when the elevator moves
fresh trout
I think I accidentally managed to store my wall jump and did it midair during path of pain
I did it on switch
I have no idea if this is known or not
weary root
It's called wall cling storage
fresh trout
Ah
weary root
happens quite a lot when cdashing into the platform in the last room
fading juniper
i just did my first run is 2hr and 59m alright?
digital jewel
yep
fading juniper
good :D
abstract notch
why
tired wyvern
Just finished my first recorded any% with 41:53!! Cant wait to get it verified
If only I didnt die to uumuu, got SO much time save with watchers and movement
haughty aurora
live streaming a race rn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls-g7Helohw
abstract notch
If only I didnt die to uumuu, got SO much time save with watchers and movement
Uumuu really is brutal starting out
latent lichen
Honestly watchers are the only reason I have zero completed speedruns lmfao
abstract notch
Watchers is a very good reason to run All Skills
latent lichen
you gotta deal with waterways tho 
latent lichen
fair
abstract notch
At least no flukes
I did just realise there's a few acid skips, but compared to QGA they're easy enough
tired wyvern
Uumuu really is brutal starting out
Ive been practicing the run for 2 years lol
Just need more time in uumuu
I could easily get 39 xx if I dont die to uumuu
abstract notch
Do you go for the 2 cycle?
tired wyvern
I always get the first part of it
But can never get it the second time
So I’m always 1 or 2 fireballs short
abstract notch
The setup for cycle 2 is a bit cursed since you have to get 3 dnails in and all
tired wyvern
Yeah…
Basically worshipped fireborns guide but still havent got it
Probably just a muscle memory thing
Took me like 60 hrs to get watcher knight down good
abstract notch
Idk, my knowledge for 1221 goes to "Lever skips are possible"
sage moon
And inventory drops are easier
tacit root
yo im stuck on getting enought height for statue pogo wtf am i doing wrong
abstract notch
That was too late
tacit root
oh
abstract notch
Okay, you also want to start moving right directly after you pogo
amber arch
just asking, but is dreamnail after 25 min (got dash and claw) good?
digital jewel
yep
snow dome
?srpsa
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rich parrot
any pointers of any% speedrun splits I'm gonna try live streaming but I don't have actual click through rate
snow dome
?guides
sick ravenBOT
snow dome
You can find splits on hksplitmaker.com
rich parrot
sHEESh thanks a lot man
regal sluice
hello kight
loud root
I'm just a starting speedrunner, and I was wondering, in a 112% speedrun, is it actually faster to fight GPZ than grabbing a few whispering roots?
sage moon
I have no idea, but the guides might
verbal stag
the category on the leaderboard is 112% all pantheon bosses, so gpz is a requirement
sage moon
I think he's asking about 112%, not 112% All Bosses
verbal stag
ye if you were just doing pure 112% you wouldn't do gpz
sage moon
I think that all the bosses you fight give you enough essence for 2400, But I'm double checking
verbal stag
they do, since 106 doesnt do gpz
sage moon
Yeah, it gives you exactly 2400 without GPZ
And you need to fight them all for pantheons anyway
snow dome
Pure 112% is a very uncommon category. 112% APB requires GPS, as above. You can head to the server in the pins to learn more about routing etc, or just use the guides
?guides
sick ravenBOT
thorny musk
And you need to fight them all for pantheons anyway
Don't need to kill dream bosses for pantheons
sage moon
You don't?
I mean I know you don't have to defeat White Defender but is there any others?
thorny musk
You don't need to kill any of them
thick granite
hallo
tired wyvern
Lets go beat pb by over 2 minutes with a 39:46
Really really good thk fight
Need to work on uumuu, 4 cycle wont cut it 🤦
round kelp
I mean I know you don't have to defeat White Defender but is there any others?
None of them are % either. You want them for the essence.
sage moon
None of them are % either. You want them for the essence.
Pretty sure grinding birds is faster but ok
round kelp
sage moon
look at the spoiler image in #hk-meme
sage moon
Why grind birds when bees are faster
How are bees faster?
I was just testing your gamer knowledge
The correct answer is the weird things outside Flukemarm's room smh
You really living in 2021
steady lynx
Just room dupe so you can have more bees
Bees may also crash the game after long enough
steady lynx
Why are you running NMG%?
sage moon
Why, what are you running?
steady lynx
Godhome Ending
sage moon
What glitches are you using?
steady lynx
define a glitch
sage moon
Unintended mechanic
steady lynx
Are inventory drops intended?
sage moon
Probably not, but that is so minor that I'm not sure that I would include it
sage moon
No bench storage charm maxing shenanigans?
steady lynx
Nope
sage moon
Cool
steady lynx
The goal is really to get 2:35:xx by summer
sage moon
Seems doable, I wish you luck
The route I'm running is much worse
Not in difficulty
It's very existence is just a curse is all
knotty vigil
how much is that
sage moon
Yeah how much?
steady lynx
I think we got it over 70% last time we tried stuff
sage moon
What's the most cursed thing in the speedrun?
steady lynx
Traitor Lord and Gorb are both contenders for that
sage moon
steady lynx
It's omega cursed, but you can climb up to Gorb from Greenpath without claw
Using some shade skips
tired wyvern
It's omega cursed, but you can climb up to Gorb from Greenpath without claw
Yikes
steady lynx
Making it all the way up QG without claw
sage moon
Oh boy
tired wyvern
I mean at least you have wings but thats horrible
steady lynx
You can't get wings without claw
steady lynx
There's one required walljump
steady lynx
cdash is unavailable
steady lynx
Nobody has
tired wyvern
Thats probably a good thing
steady lynx
Not in one segment at least
sage moon
That can change...
steady lynx
Don't do that to yourself
sage moon
I did PoP with Minion charms just because
sage moon
I did PoP with Minion charms just because
And with radiance-scream-level screen shake at the same time
sage moon
Which btw, is 105%
More fun awaits me
steady lynx
You do get Dash Slash and Shade Cloak, but you can't use them
sage moon
Shade Cloak just doesn't work?
tired wyvern
Nah u need dash first
steady lynx
If you pick up Shade Cloak without having dash it does nothing but add the %
sage moon
Weird, cool, and sad
steady lynx
It's weird since if you collect Shade Soul without having VS you can just use Shade Soul
sage moon
That's an intended mechanic right there
abstract notch
This is truly a game coded by a bunch of artists
torpid plaza
hey guys, so, I just started into the speedrunning world, and I chose HK for my first game (idk if it's good or totally bad but that was my choice :p) and I was wondering about how I should approach this, should it train every single split until I'm doing it constantly "good" or should I try to make a full run and get better as the time goes?
sage moon
You should try and get to the point where you can at the very least do everything required, then you should run it. After that just practice whatever you're the worst at, run it, and repeat
At least, that's what I would do
Save States help if you're practicing something difficult like QGA skip or E-Pogo
And don't worry if your runs are slow to start, it all takes practice
torpid plaza
I am currently using the debug and save states, trying the skips in the beginning, like the fireball skips at greenpath, or even the 2 spike kill in the crossroads, but I'm like, 3 days just in the start, going over and over this things
but thanks for the point of view, I'm gonna try to make a full run, I already had this in mind cause I'm honestly tired of restarting the run over and over
sage moon
Well if a skip is too difficult at the moment you can always do the back-up strat, e.g Squit pogo, walking normally, etc.
torpid plaza
I know, I was kind of frustrated with the first fireball skip in greenpath, the one that saves 3 SECONDS hahah, I should just walk the normal path
sage moon
Try not to get caught up doing everything perfectly and just do it to the best of your abilities, you'll burn yourself out if you don't accept the fact that you might not get everything perfect.
torpid plaza
got it, makes sense, thanks man!
sage moon
No problem, good luck and don't die
random falcon
i come from the land down under
barren geyser
yo I am new to hollow knight, just doing a casual playthrough, and something super weird happened. Don't know if this is the right place to post it but I'm curious what happened, and I bet the speedrunning community would be the best to ask lol.
formal bough
oh that's knockback storage iirc the name correctly
weary root
yeah this is knockback storage, basically you're stuck in the knockback state
formal bough
the game just goes "screw you you get knockbacked infintely"
weary root
it's kinda rare and also random and also we don't know how to get it intentionally
barren geyser
is it used in any categories? Seems useful if you can get knocked back into a loading zone or something
barren geyser
ah, welp. Good to know, I knew y'all would be chill and prompt to answer
sage moon
it's kinda rare and also random and also we don't know how to get it intentional...
Well I have another example to add to the pile
#hk-discussion message
sullen jasper
I found that you can skip being stunned by a scream by opening inventory right when a boss is about to scream. I'm playing on Ps4 and just wondering if this is known of or possible on older patches
https://youtu.be/IHHAoi6y0ok
Here's me doing it for example
final elk
It’s known but considered a major glitch iirc
weary root
yeah this gives inventory storage (being able to move and control your character while inventory is open) which is banned
abstract notch
Isn't there a new way to skip some of the scream with a good damage tank on the spikes?
snow dome
Days since somebody posted inventory storage as a new glitch: 1 0
abstract notch
Happens less often than people inventing Death% tbf
sullen jasper
Oof I'm sorry
I was just asking. I just joined the discord so I didn't know it was such a common thing
sage moon
You didn't do anything wrong, it just happens a lot
torpid plaza
jesus christ the DNail softlock is so annoying
sage moon
I have no idea what that is, but it has the word "softlock" in it so you're probably right
torpid plaza
happens when u get to the place where u get the dream nail,the platform with the dreamers, if u get there interacting just after dashing the white screen doesn't disappear and u have to re-launch the game
sage moon
Sounds fun
torpid plaza
its pretty simple to avoid, but I have the habit of getting there always dashing
sage moon
Huge Timesave
torpid plaza
yes 
sage moon
its pretty simple to avoid, but I have the habit of getting there always dashing
People do that a lot in speedruns I've noticed
torpid plaza
do they even continue or restart?
I mean, the run is basically over, but I would continue at this point
torpid plaza
I was referring to dashing
oh yes, the greed of 1 second save
azure onyx
Does anyone know why Nosket is not auto-splitting in P5? I couldn't find any other boss than Nosk so it has to be that one right? All other bosses split just fine.
steady lynx
Just download splits from hksplitmaker.com
azure onyx
tired wyvern
Out of curiosity
What would be considered an above average any% run
When would you be considered “good”
digital jewel
the middle rank on speedrun.com is a 44m 53s time
stuck raptor
no
stuck raptor
there is no time where you are considered good
even WR holders constantly comment on how bad they are
tired wyvern
Except for sub 30 of course
Yeah pests wr run is hilarious
Watchers were prolly the only thing he didnt say were bad
tired wyvern
the middle rank on speedrun.com is a 44m 53s time
Also since ur a speedrun.com mod, I submitted a run around a day or two ago that was like 43 mins, but just got a sub 40 yesterday, so should I remove it so you guys dont have to verify the older one and submit the better one?
Just wanna make ur lives easier
digital jewel
there's no need to remove the old one
tired wyvern
K cool good to know
silent horizon
👍
sleek flare
so i'm currently trying to beat the game as fast as possible (i'm not a serious speedrunner, more just casual), my current record is 2h 51m
i'm doing my second ever attempt at an any%-ish speedrun
i'm not gonna do any difficult skips like shade skips and stuff
so the route i took was city crest --> sanctum --> ddive --> cpeaks
it's slower but i'm more comfortable with it
since SOMETIMES i can pull off the blue lake shade skip but i'm not 100% sure of it
so rn i just entered cpeaks, i left the game for now, i'm at 46 minutes
is that on pace to beat my other run? (with the rest of the route after cpeaks being pretty similar to a normal any% run)
sage moon
Probably, if you're good at the bosses and movement
sleek flare
i guess the only way i'll know is when i get to watcher knights, because i remember that my watcher knights in my other playthrough were at 2h 10m
sleek flare
Probably, if you're good at the bosses and movement
yeah, i think the only place i died in my other one was queens gardens mantis petra arena
i was underprepared for that
sage moon
Not sure if it's faster to get tram pass and enter CoT that way, but it's an option
sleek flare
Not sure if it's faster to get tram pass and enter CoT that way, but it's an opt...
doesn't that mean dark deepnest
hell naw
sage moon
Probably not, since you wouldn't really use it
sleek flare
i aint doin that
sage moon
doesn't that mean dark deepnest
You don't have to do any sections of Dark Deepnest to get tram pass
sleek flare
You don't have to do any sections of Dark Deepnest to get tram pass
i don't?
sage moon
Nope
sleek flare
wait some parts of deepnest are normal brightness?
sage moon
Slightly darker than that, but yes
sleek flare
did not know that
sage moon
It's only left side that's dark
sleek flare
stuff that i can't do:
-shade skips
-most fireball skips
-explosion pogo
-mantis village mantis pogo
-other tricky stuff like pickaxe pogo
sage moon
Pog axe is the official name for that last one I think
sleek flare
pog
yeah but i wanted to speedrun this game legitimately, sadly it never worked out for me because of technical issues
i spent so long trying to get debug mod to practice and stuff
i was able to downpatch to the speedrun version of the game, but from there my mod installation sadly didn't work
i tried everything, i asked a ton of people on the speedrun channel and the hk speedrunning server
they all said it looked good and they had no idea why it didn't work
i had the txt file and the csharp assembly in there correct and everything
sage moon
Well the only things on that list that you need to do without major time-loss is shade skip and the any% shade skip isn't too bad
I have no idea how to do anything when it comes to speedrunning on PC
sleek flare
Well the only things on that list that you need to do without major time-loss is...
isn't explosion pogo a huge timesave
like at least 45 seconds
i guess that's not much for me
for me a huge timesave would be 20 minutes 😔
sage moon
Don't sweat the small stuff
sleek flare
yeah i have pretty good movement, it's just some areas i'm not familiar with i stumble with
sage moon
As long as you can get there without taking 5 minutes longer than the any% route would than I'd call that a win
sleek flare
like for example i have to go a bit slower in the queens gardens-deepnest area
sage moon
Deepnest is an exception
sleek flare
also for some reason 1.2.2.1 has way looser controls on pc
i'm really used to playing on current patch (which is what i've switched back to)
sage moon
I wouldn't know anything about that
sleek flare
like the character is way driftier and when you stop moving it takes a bit longer
it's noticeable for someone who has spent 300 hours playing the current patch of the game
sage moon
I really need to get Hollow Knight for PC already...
sleek flare
yeah i tried a few 100% speed-completion things
i gave up on both of them lol
i think i can do it
it's just more long term
sage moon
Not too bad if you know where everything is
sleek flare
yeah i guess
it just sucks forgetting one percent in an area
and then having to go all the way back
sage moon
But I couldn't tell you off the top of my head
sleek flare
but one thing that i know is that i'm really good at watcher knights
i think i'm as good as a speedrunner almost
sage moon
I have no idea how I was able to get speed completion without looking at a guide or something
sleek flare
it's so satisfying to just kill them so quickly with just base nail and shaman stone vs
i feel like the false knight theme fits the watcher knights way more
sage moon
As opposed to...?
sage moon
What about Failed Champion?
sleek flare
tbh i'm not a big fan of failed champion's boss design
the way they just made all the jumps and attacks faster feels kinda weird
like for dream bosses in general
they could give them new attacks and slightly different looks like with white defender
and i hate double damage bosses tbh
i think the only bosses that should be double damage are
- bosses that have enough uniqueness from their counterparts to deserve being double damage (pv, nkg, etc.)
- final bosses
-bosses that guard an important item (like traitor lord)
sage moon
I really like Failed Champion personally
He's pretty fun to fight
And if it wasn't for the double damage, you could probably damage tank and than heal during his stagger
Unfortunately, you can cheese him in like 4 different ways pretty easily
So yes, I think you have pretty good chances of getting a PB this run
formal sky
Yo @sleek flare have you watched the speedrun guide of fireb0rn? It helped me out a lot for starting speedrunning
Got my first legitimate sub 50 yesterday aswell
Also for the debug mod, did use the modding API?
tired wyvern
So, I’m not an amazing any% runner, but definetely above average, my pb is a sub 40.
For people running the game sort of casually, I have a few reccomendations.
Learn a shade soul route. It only take like 10 minutes off what a regular run would be, but it solves ALL your problems with bosses.
Dont get ismas tear. Just use a deepnest route instead of going thru queens gardens. For casually running its only another 5 minutes or so, and you get lantern anyways to access peaks.
Consider picking up a full mask or two. Remember that theres 4 shards in crossroads, and you only lose like 5-10 minutes getting em.
Edit: Why are you getting tram pass?
sage moon
I like Tram Pass is all
But it's not that great in any% since you'd only use it for getting into city and there's like a billion faster ways to do that
If you take the City Crest route that is, not standard any%
unique cloud
Hola I am a new speedrunner and all I would like to say is that 2 cycle uumuu is impossible agggh
oh also what is the difference between the any% nmg on the current patch vs the optimal one?
sage moon
Well on CP (Current Patch) you can't do E-Pogo and Lever Skips, I think Uumuu also interacts with terrain differently on 1.2.2.1 (The optimal patch). Might be a thing or two that I missed but there's nothing that requires an entire reroute between patches, just going the long way round to Mantis Village and some small time losses, but there's separate categories for CP and 1.2.2.1
wicked trench
(just want to point out that you can do e-pogo but with a different set-up)
Mainly minor changes like the Baldur in GreenPath, arenas, cycles, etc... All thing you can see after watching a couple of speedruns of CP runners ✌️
sage moon
(Baldur's in crossroads technically)
I'll bet CP E-pogo is loads of fun
thorny musk
It's not too bad
wicked trench
Yeah, it's pretty funny considering it's 100% consistent and pretty cool to do
Also pretty simple (there are harder variations that save little fractions of seconds)
sage moon
Might check it out I guess
knotty vigil
The one by Mathulu is really good
unique cloud
Kind of funky that e-pogo works in cp and 1.2.2.1 but just with different setups
Oh also is it possible to menu drop in cp? Because I can’t figure it out, maybe I’m just bad lol
knotty vigil
Well yeah but not in midair
sage moon
You can do it, but you have to open it right as you walk off a ledge
unique cloud
Ohhh ok so not midair
Also someone mentioned uumuu interacting with terrain differently- is two cycle uumuu still possible?
somber gull
knotty vigil
Also someone mentioned uumuu interacting with terrain differently- is two cycle ...
Yes
jovial ivy
is explosion pogo not possible in certain versions? i cant get it
stuck raptor
it's possible in all versions
the methods are slightly different though depending on patch
formal bough
On current patch you can no longer pogo the explosion
as such, the strategy requires you to pogo the sporg instad
humble ice
Im gonna try speedrunning soon anyone have a picture of the route? Preferably a more friendly route then the wr one because I don't know how to do crazy skips with cast and stuff
Most I could probably do would be shade skip
Is the route mainly first you go straight to greenmoutb after getting cast, then you beat hornet, go straight to get claw then bench back up to dirtmoutb or smth?
final elk
The shade skip is the only required skip i believe
The others all save less than a minute each
Except the spire skip which is pretty easy
final elk
Is the route mainly first you go straight to greenmoutb after getting cast, then...
After claw you shade skip to dreamnail
humble ice
After claw you shade skip to dreamnail
I see
abstract notch
The skips themselves aren't too hard, you'll soon find that Watcher Knight are the real threat starting out
humble ice
So basically I save my bench at the charm lady before going to shroomtown, then I bench back?
abstract notch
You keep Mound bench, claw, then lower Crossroads over to Salubra
humble ice
What mound I'm dumb
humble ice
Ohh ok ty
final elk
You can find guides on the route on speedrun.com
humble ice
I'll try that ty
abstract notch
I think there's even a cute little map to show the route somewhere
humble ice
After shade skip I get dream nail then I head to the dreamers right? After that it's just hk and I'm done
Do I need to get King soul or go to the abyss at any point in the run?
Or even ancient basin
final elk
After shade skip I get dream nail then I head to the dreamers right? After that ...
You get lurien then go for cdash then go for the next two
final elk
Do I need to get King soul or go to the abyss at any point in the run?
Nope
No ancient basin either
humble ice
You get lurien then go for cdash then go for the next two
Which one is lurian
final elk
The one defended by watcher knights
humble ice
Oh ok yeah
How do I get cdash? Do I just naturally have enough money by that point
For lantern
humble ice
I might need a relic map for that one idk where any are really
abstract notch
Well, here's the great part
The route tells you where there are relics you should get
humble ice
You get lurien then go for cdash then go for the next two
For lurian the casual route is ismas tear route right? But with cdash I need to perform skips?
humble ice
The route tells you where there are relics you should get
Ohh yeah
jagged vault
you only need one acid skip and it is very easy
it's the one you enter fog canyon with
abstract notch
The famous QGA acid skip isn't even required starting out
humble ice
it's the one you enter fog canyon with
Queens station? Or is that blocked by acid I don't remember
jagged vault
if you walk off the small platform you get set up perfectly
crossroads left acid room
humble ice
I'll have to check a map idk where that is
jagged vault
as for QGA you can go through deepnest instead for the time being
abstract notch
Actually, maybe check a run
final elk
You can check onmiwe’s cp run for the deepnest route
sleek flare
Also for the debug mod, did use the modding API?
yeah dude i did everything right
i checked with a ton of people
i sent screenshots of all my installations and folders
eventually i just got frustrated and quit
mint coral
as
limber stump
tried my hand at speedrunning 112% APB, first full run was surprisingly fast
my chest hurts from being so nervous though 
weary root
GG! That's a hard run!
limber stump
it really was! i had to keep cutting away because i had a lot of stuff to do
good thing it's a holiday tomorrow 😈
lofty grove
good thing it's a holiday tomorrow 😈
lmao
vocal gate
tried my hand at speedrunning 112% APB, first full run was surprisingly fast
holy shitt
gj
drowsy tiger
I did Speedrun 2 for Hollow Knights 5th anniversary
upbeat jay
Who can do the pogo speedrun
steady lynx
I think you can
waxen kelp
hornet in 26m, good or bad as my first speedrun for achievement?
formal sky
Not bad, go for sub 20 now
waxen kelp
soul master
my skill still doesn't exist
i am not even sure if i can speedrun game in 5h
formal sky
Ah, i mean if u learn the shade skip for blue lake it easily saves like an hour for you
Its not too difficult, pretty easy to learn
You also wouldn't have to do soul master
waxen kelp
i dont even know where to go
snow dome
?srpsa
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Guide for the 5hr speedrunning achievement: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1861523602
snow dome
This should help
waxen kelp
I tried and find it much harder to follow this guide than YouTube video
wind estuary
i was goin for the achievement :))
i did not know any like route or whatever i made it up on the fly
got lost like 30 times LMAO
limber stump
trying out livesplit, i'm so happy it works
knotty vigil
I would definitely follow fireborns tutorial if your trying to do the sub 5 hour
It has a detailed route and shows all the geo you need and stuff
wind estuary
my path got super confusing after lurien lmfao
i thought after i got her, i could just go to sly n buy the lattern,, then my dumbass was short like 500
knotty vigil
Dam
wind estuary
i wanna get the speed completion achievement next.. i will DEFINITELY have to look that up
wind estuary
woulda been handy if i wasnt so stubborn LOL
This was my second try, first try i got killed by watcher knights then exited while my shade wasnt with me and lost like 1300 ge o
😭
knotty vigil
This was my second try, first try i got killed by watcher knights then exited wh...
That’s a big setback
A had to do watcher nights a couple times
wind estuary
This was my second try, first try i got killed by watcher knights then exited wh...
i also decided to train in godhome for a bit after i got OWNED by them
knotty vigil
What I would recommend is having multiple accounts and practice a different thing on each
Like I have some dedicated to bosses and others to do skips like explosion pogo
wind estuary
i dont know if ill ever try this again, but it was very fun and i am salty that i coulda gotten a way better time
so.. probably
knotty vigil
Yeah actually to be fair it’s not worth it to have this practice accounts if you just want to do it once
waxen kelp
Not bad, go for sub 20 now
i tried again because I messed previous speedrun, now i killed hornet in 20minutes
formal sky
gg's
i just learned the queen's gardens to deepnest route
does anyone know approximately how much time it saves compared to the fungal wastes to deepnes route?
tender patrol
How do i add the Hollow knight as an autosplit?
like to end the run
i dont see it as an option
snow dome
does anyone know approximately how much time it saves compared to the fungal was...
Optimally it saves ~40s to do QGA
snow dome
like to end the run
You don't. The final split as an ending will always just split on its own.
tired wyvern
Optimally it saves ~40s to do QGA
Damn Ii could get sub 37 then
Should probably do that…
spring whale
Hello, I just setup my hollow knight debug game, but I just accidentally set load save state to left click on my mouse how do I fix this issue because now whenever I click to try to rebind it it just loads the save state.
spring whale
do you happen to know where that is located?
knotty vigil
?saves
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Saves
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Game Files: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Hollow Knight\``` ** ** Mac File Paths: ```Save Files: ~/Library/Application Support/unity.Team Cherry.Hollow Knight/ Game Files: ~/Library/Application Support/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/hollow_knight.app/``` ** ** Linux File Paths: ```Save Files: ~/.config/unity3d/Team Cherry/Hollow Knight/ Game Files: ~/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/```
spring whale
Thank you
knotty vigil
Does anyone got the best method for the explosion pogo on current patch
I’m on switch also
mathulu has a really good video tutorial
tender patrol
anyone know why livesplit might be not pausing during loading frames?
is there a setting for it?
steady lynx
Right click, compare to, game time
tender patrol
thanks
steady lynx
Before you ask, it's not supposed to pause fully when game is paused or on the title screen
knotty vigil
i'm very sadge
steady lynx
Hi very sadge
knotty vigil
i feel like uumuu will never do what its supposed to do
steady lynx
I'm very unfunny
knotty vigil
like i'm doing all the things to do right
for first phase
i never get it done correctly
i don't deal enough damage on phase one
steady lynx
which patch?
knotty vigil
1221
steady lynx
cancelling the nail with fireball is vital for that one
You can shoot a fireball as soon as the nail is active for whatever reason and it's needed to get enough DPS to quick kill
knotty vigil
hmmm
i'll try my best for that
i'd like to show you what's wrong
i can't connect the last nail hit to be able to cast 2 fireballs at the end of the first cycle
he gets pushed too far away for some reason
steady lynx
He might be too far right already when you start the damage rotation
knotty vigil
he ends up here all the time
i'll picture where he is when i start
it just always end up like this, it's so doomed
analog monolith
do u have videos? it's hard to tell whats going on exactly from screenshots, especially with this damage rotation
knotty vigil
i can record one
or maybe i can stream u on discord
i might be fireballing a bit too slowly but i feel like he gets off the platform very fast
even when i pay attention to be fast at fireballing he just gets away and i have to do 3cycles
pure wolf
i might be fireballing a bit too slowly but i feel like he gets off the platform...
are you using quick cast
knotty vigil
yes
pure wolf
ok 👍
knotty vigil
it was just me being slow on this attempt
but i still got 5 cast
but even when i'm fast i can't get the last one
steady lynx
You shot the first fireball slightly early and your nail cancels were lacking
knotty vigil
yea for this attempt nail cancels were bad
but even when i do them good it still results in "i can't get the last nail"
steady lynx
Even if Uumuu is that far right before last slash you can walk off before the last slash
knotty vigil
but i guess this 0.1 isn't the reason why i can't have the last nail
it feels like Uumuu is just not at the good spot and he gets off too early
steady lynx
If you get all cancels and don't hestitate on walking off you should get it
knotty vigil
tried it once but the fireball got eaten by the plateform afterwards
but i'll try again
steady lynx
Then you fell too far before fireballing after the nail