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knotty vigil
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idk how to get font links

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i tried going to a font site and copying link but it doesnt work

hushed mango
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I think this time is good

snow dome
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Me to

wooden sentinel
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yes

keen python
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Caught this in a hitless run? Definitely cheating? They don't take damage passing right through it.

steady lynx
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At specific speeds you can fall straight through some enemies

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Specifically if the enemy is moving upwards

keen python
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They had just begun to fall and it was moving to the right and slightly down

steady lynx
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Maybe just a Cotton hitbox moment

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Do you have the video it's from?

jaunty sinew
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I was wondering if anybody had done research on how many frames of delay there are on different abilities and how many frames the different abilities' animations take?

keen python
steady lynx
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Oh, that hitbox was far from hitting him

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He had like a whole frame to spare

tulip elm
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are there NKG grimm speedruns? i can only find a hitless speedrun of 1:27, but seems pretty slow

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i did 1:20 with only like 1h of grinding

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not hitless tho

steady lynx
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We have a run of "Kill NKG from game start" but generally we don't time induvidual bosses in HoG

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Would be proper pain to maintain any board for that

tulip elm
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damn

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i like grinding bosses personally, so thats a shame

weary root
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there are boards for each of the pantheons if that interests you

tender quest
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are there nail art only runs?

finite heart
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I like NKG% i should put more work into that.

snow dome
analog monolith
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tami thats nail upgrades zote

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if u want a category that gets all nai arts, nmg% is what u want; its goal is obtaining nailmaster's glory, which is basically just nart fetchquest prime

snow dome
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Oh yeah, so it is

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I was honestly thinking of Sheo more than anything. ๐Ÿณ๏ธโ€๐ŸŒˆ

ocean kettle
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i should hgave put that in modding mb

spice walrus
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Today I found a bug where if you shoot a vengeful spirit, all birds offscreen don't fly away from you.

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do you think I could use it to get soul from the birds if greenpath?

analog monolith
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i think ive seen this but didnt know how it exactly worked hmm, now i know

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i dont think it's really useful for soul collection tho unfortunately, ur already using 3 soul to cast, and the only place u could realistically gain more than that is first room in gp, where u already can get a hit anyways (plus it doesnt really matter there)

spice walrus
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ok

fallow glade
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HI

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Uh

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I'm new

weary root
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Hi new

lethal viper
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My "I'm just trying to get the achievement" route

unkempt ferry
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Just under 4 hours

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Nice

strange spoke
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Any feedback helps

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Please don't edit the doc

visual crest
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You need access

strange spoke
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one sec

orchid coral
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will I annoy the mods if I submit three runs for the same category in a week? or should I just save submissions for the best timings?

strange spoke
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Idk, I've only been here since yesterday

stark birch
# orchid coral will I annoy the mods if I submit three runs for the same category in a week? or...

As long as you're submitting valid, non-troll runs, how often you submit is entirely up to you! Some people like to use SRC as a log of every single PB they make, some people submit fewer than 1 pb in 10, usually waiting for a specific goal time. There's no right way to go about it. If verifiers see you've got three runs for the same category in the queue, we'll verify the fastest time first and then assuming it clears just do a cursory check on the slower runs to make sure they're valid runs, so it isn't significantly more verifier time than if you just submitted the fastest PB!

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(that said the queue is backed up a bit rn; we just added a few new verifiers but it still may be a sec before you see your runs on SRC)

pure swift
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how do i mod hollow knight on the 1.2.2.1 version?

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or patch

strange spoke
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No one's been looking at this channel for a while, I know because I've been here for like four hours waiting for someone to review my speedrun guide

pure swift
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oh ok

weary root
pure swift
weary root
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speedrun mod is for current patch to put back in a bunch of 1221 glitches, also mods aren't allowed for submitted runs

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0dDvM3zSyQ here's a guide for setting up debug though!

!!! THIS GUIDE IS ONLY FOR HOLLOW KNIGHT VERSION 1.2.2.1 (the speedrunning patch) !!!
If you're on current patch, please find and use the modinstaller instead.

These downloads are a bit more up-to-date than the stuff I show in the video but I'm sure you guys will be able to figure it out

Modding API: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/81...

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pure swift
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so debug mod isnt allowed?

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theres a weird thing where my game crashes after i get vengeful spirit

strange spoke
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You could be using invincibility which would be cheating, caused a lot of drama in the speedrun community once

pure swift
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ohhh gotchu

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but what about the crash at vengeful spirit

strange spoke
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Yeah that's weird never happened to me

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(Switch)

pure swift
weary root
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the game closes or freezes?

pure swift
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so at first i notice i cant move

weary root
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is this only on 1221?

pure swift
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then when i ALT+F4 my pc crashes

pure swift
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hasnt happened to me on other versions

weary root
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never heard of that before, might want to ask in the Help channel on the speedrun discord

pure swift
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does it have to do with debug mod?

weary root
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debug won't help if the game is crashing

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1221 is just a very unoptimized patch so it doesn't run very well on some pc's

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if it continues to be an issue you can do runs on current patch

pure swift
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Whats even the point in downpatching

weary root
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1221 has a bunch of things that make it faster (notably lever skips) but there's a separate board for current patch runs anyway

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it's preference for most people

pure swift
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What do u recommend

weary root
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well if you're crashing at VS on 1221 then run on cp

true palm
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downpatching has some cool glitches that make the run less annoying (like instant baldur kill) or potentially more fun (sometimes wall cling storage) and the boards are currently more optimized on 1221

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the freezing might be a registry issue, check downpatching guide on src on how to clear

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you can try redownpatching to see if a file got corrupted

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or it might just be a performance issue

digital jewel
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Are you playing with keyboard?

storm shore
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is someone so kind to watch a clip and tell me what i'm doing wrong in the explosion skip?

weary root
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yeah you can post it here

storm shore
digital jewel
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you can't pogo the explosion on current patch. are you trying to?

snow dome
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Yeah this won't work on any patch

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Have you watched any tutorials

storm shore
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i'm playing on 1.4

snow dome
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There's a current patch specific tutorial on YouTube (there's like 10 in fact) and Fireborn's guide has the one for 1221

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Search YouTube for current patch explosion Pogo guide. There's one by Monstahler

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Which is pretty comprehensive.

storm shore
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yeah i was watching fireborn's guide

weary root
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better yet learn comfy pogo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYsRWyHjcmM

Update with the release of 1.5: This explosion pogo is still valid on the current patch of Hollow Knight, and older methods are still patched, so all the information in this video is still up to date.

This is a new method for performing Explosion Pogo in Hollow Knight on Current Patch (1.4.3.2 at the time of publishing this). This came out of s...

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snow dome
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  1. You're on the wrong patch
  2. Even if you were on the right patch this wouldn't actually work. You need to Pogo the spore and then the explosion on 1221. (But again, this doesn't matter because you need a different setup on current patch.)
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Ah, it's math not Monstahler, sorry.

storm shore
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idk i have seen the setup on fireborn's video

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i will switch patch

weary root
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if you want 1221 you can just select it from the beta's tab on steam

storm shore
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thx

orchid coral
river jolt
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How would I go about making a TAS for hollow knight?

weary root
hard glade
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anyone know how to get mantis claw with out mothwing cloak?

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im basically doing a run where i get mantis claw then hit zotes mask and i want to skip hornet

stark birch
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Look into the low% speedrun for whichever patch you're running on; it requires a difficult fireball skip and then some more stuff besides (a specific epogo, a shade skip, or an ultracursed fireball skip depending)

for what it's worth; skipping dash (unless required by the category) is slower than getting it even at the point of picking up claw

hard glade
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ok thanks for the help

finite kayak
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is there a mantislords%

snow dome
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There's Pride% which gets Mark of Pride, which is basically that yes

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There's also Fragile% which is "Break all fragile charms" which does Mantis Lords and then has a smol amount after it.

austere kayak
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Bored waiting for silksong along with everyone else, so decided to give speedrunning a try, this my second ever any% attempt dungo

prime cosmos
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How do I put that speedrun thing that says the time and all of that

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lke the one above my comment

digital jewel
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google Livesplit

prime cosmos
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thanks

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Does it updates automatically when i do x thing or is manual?

digital jewel
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there's an autosplitter for hollow knight

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there are remade splits here

austere kayak
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This is what I used, but took out queens garden split cuz im bad

prime cosmos
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thanks

austere kayak
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any% minus tqg

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Anyone here know if library lever skip still works on latest patch? unsure if im just bad or if it was patched out

stuck raptor
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lever skips are 1221 only

austere kayak
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ah

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that would explain why i was struggling with it lol

thorn jasper
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(ping or DM me if you want to follow up. I usually don't check this server tbh)

true palm
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you can double pogo the explosion

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its how low% does it

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and its also in fires guide

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just with dash

deep dagger
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I GOT THE PS5 WORLD RECORD BABY, just have to wait for them to accept

grave kiln
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So why are the console times a good 10 minutes longer than PC? There's no way that's a skill gap between the platforms.

grave kiln
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I'm doing my first intentional speedrun

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Not looking for anything more than 5 hour achievement for now

deep dagger
grave kiln
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Oh, that would do it

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Why the difference?

deep dagger
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Bc it would be impossible to not count loading screens since you cant have a timer on console

grave kiln
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Ok

thorn jasper
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hate to burst your bubble, but console runs are timed real time, which means they do include the loading screens, menus, etc. the in game time displayed at the end is not the leaderboard time

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check the rules for the timing, and double check the recording of your run

fluid pilot
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Is there any way to get to the crown of hollownest without wings?

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Nvm I found a skip

finite heart
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Its just a couple of pogos. You can do it without crystal heart too

fickle walrus
frozen rose
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does anyone know how to do savestates on a mac?

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practicing for the acradian Myla% tournament

tulip compass
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Me when i do low% any%

chilly widget
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hey

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has anyone made a powerpoint for hk speedrun routes

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ik they did for any%

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but do they have one for 112

weary root
deep dagger
weary root
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see the timer on the right where is says 50:18 in big blue numbers? That's the timer we use for speedruns. The ingame timer is completely unreliable

deep dagger
wary lance
weary root
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np! ๐Ÿ™‚

celest fossil
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just got back into speedrunning after like a year or two away from the game, they made patching the game so easy wtf

strong vessel
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I've been trying to get everything updated (and once that happens artz can update those maps) but it's been procrastinated

austere kayak
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any% attempt 5, progress has been made a little bit

steady lynx
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?saves

sick ravenBOT
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Saves


Windows File Paths: (Assumes Default Steam Install Path, Adjust accordingly for DRM Free or Non-Standard Steam Path)

Game Files: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Hollow Knight\```
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Mac File Paths:
```Save Files: ~/Library/Application Support/unity.Team Cherry.Hollow Knight/
Game Files: ~/Library/Application Support/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/hollow_knight.app/```
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Linux File Paths:
```Save Files: ~/.config/unity3d/Team Cherry/Hollow Knight/
Game Files: ~/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/```
cold meadow
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I'm trying to speedrun the game for the first time but I cant get livesplit to be on top. As far as i know there is no Borderless mode and running it windowed distracts me a lot.

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could someone please tell me how to put it on top without windowed mode?

weary root
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in steam - Hollow knight - Launch options type: -popupwindow

cold meadow
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Thank you

fickle walrus
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Real time is 55:06. Pretty happy with that. Although my place on the leaderboard doesn't actually change๐Ÿ™

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Even though I was 2 mins faster than my pb.

thorn chasm
analog cipher
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how should i get into speedrunning

worldly sundial
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How do i get in speedrunning?

wicked trench
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This is how I got into: I started by watching people doing that, and passive learning the route/moves
Meanwhile learn and practice tech/skips/boss fights
Then putting it togheder trying to speedrun by myself, at the start with the goal of ending the game in 2 separate sessions; then hand by hand, getting faster and ending it in one session

Others instead started by just completing the game faster and faster, and then learning the techs and so on

That's up to you

twin swallow
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start timer > play game > go faster next time

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you are now a speedrunner

digital jewel
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do we have to go faster next time?

vagrant warren
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Go faster eventually maybe

twin swallow
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trying and failing is fine too, it's the thought that counts (:

orchid coral
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is the myla% beginner tournament still open?

vagrant warren
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Yes I think signups are open until the 15th.

fast furnace
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What's the "easiest" category to learn/start with?

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Ping pls if you respond too lol

stable quarry
steady lynx
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Menderbug% technically exists

stable quarry
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I have heard 106% is easier than all skills, but the run is way longer so...

stable quarry
steady lynx
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Easy =/= fun

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Seriously though, AS is just easy and fun, just run that

stable quarry
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Do you know how 106% is I have heard it's easy.

digital jewel
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I wouldn't call 106% easy

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it's very long

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it's definitely doable as a first category but learning the route and strategies will take some time

steady lynx
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Comparatively any% is way easier than most categories

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Like, low%, TE, 112% and GE are ones I'd never recommend as starting categories

stable quarry
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GE?

steady lynx
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Godhome Ending

stable quarry
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Oh, right thats a thing, thats the only one on that list I have not tried.

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TE is the hardest one I have tried of those imo

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(To complete)

steady lynx
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TE Radiance alone is the hardest single boss fight done in any main category imo

stable quarry
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Harder than P5 in GE?

steady lynx
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P5 as a whole is harder but no single boss in there is harder than TE Rad

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Except maybe Gorb

stable quarry
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What?

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Gorb

steady lynx
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P5 Gorb is the hardest fight to do fast in GE imo

stable quarry
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I think I have to watch a GE run now. Gorb is uchally so free.

steady lynx
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Gorb just moves too much to get any good damage in and then you have to keep at least 48 soul for Dung Defender scream skip

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Try to shriek him, he goes off the top of the screen

stable quarry
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Would Shade soul be better then?

steady lynx
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Eh, I'll IL P5 a lot in the coming week, gonna figure something out

stable quarry
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GL

covert beacon
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That moment when you try speedrunning for the first time ever and land the double aspid stalactite kill first try

knotty vigil
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Current patch

covert beacon
stable quarry
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It's a fun trick on CP, and really hard on "cheater patch"

covert beacon
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Sorry, I'm really new to speedrunning and don't know like any of the inside stuff. What's the cheater patch?

fickle walrus
stable quarry
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1221 is generally faster but also worse for lower end computers

covert beacon
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oh yeah, thats got like spire lever skip and bauldr insta kill;

stable quarry
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As it is less optimized for performance

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Yeah

stable quarry
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And THK is quite a bit easier.

covert beacon
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I wish 1578 had free inventory dropping >:L

stable quarry
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I uchally don't go for invenory dropping in CP as it uchally only saves a secound or so.

covert beacon
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but when you land it on things like crossroads shaft or resting grounds, it feels good

stable quarry
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True, it is nice to get, you can also do it down from kings pass which is fun and only loses you 0.5 secounds if you get it.

covert beacon
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that one's a lot harder for me for some reason

stable quarry
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It is optimal not to inventory drop there but it's fun so I do it sometimes.

fickle aurora
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Hey does anyone know a good place to set up a bingo race? Iโ€™m tryin to get into bingo.

sleek flare
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i just downpatched my game to 1.2.2.1

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i want to download the debug mod, how do i do that?

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i have hollow knight on steam, by the way

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can i get some help? i'm kind of stuck

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i don't want to affect my save files

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alright, i'm gonna ping someone, hope i don't get muted

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@digital jewel could you help me out please?

stable quarry
sleek flare
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this is where hollow knight is for me

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so i create a copy of hollow knight

stable quarry
# sleek flare i want to download the debug mod, how do i do that?

!!! THIS GUIDE IS ONLY FOR HOLLOW KNIGHT VERSION 1.2.2.1 (the speedrunning patch) !!!
If you're on current patch, please find and use the modinstaller instead.

These downloads are a bit more up-to-date than the stuff I show in the video but I'm sure you guys will be able to figure it out

Modding API: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/81...

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knotty vigil
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I can beat the game in a minute with debug mod

steady lynx
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Good for you

covert beacon
fickle walrus
steady lynx
fickle walrus
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Yo

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That's cool

river bluff
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Hey does anyone know why 106% is more popular than 100%?

digital jewel
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because 106% largely obsoleted 100%

snow dome
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100% is run on a crap patch

steady lynx
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Hey, 1.1.1.8 is only kinda terrible

sleek flare
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@steady lynx can i get some help?

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i've had some issues trying to download debug mod for 1.2.2.1 today

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no one could explain why it didn't work for me

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here, let me show you my hollow knight folder

steady lynx
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If they couldn't help you in tech support in hksrcord there's nothing I can do

sleek flare
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well the person logged off

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in speedrunning

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maybe you can help

steady lynx
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I'm better at in game stuff

sleek flare
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this is my installation that i created

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i don't know why it isn't working

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i have the steam_appid thing and everything

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uhhhhh

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is this what a corrupted file looks like

steady lynx
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Probably, that'd probably cause issues

empty mason
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Depot downloader?

sleek flare
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no

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i downpatched using steam beta downpatch to 1.2.2.1

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then i got hollow_knight_Data from modding api

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and i put it in the folder

empty mason
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And the steam app id txt just has 367520 in it?

steady lynx
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Did you download modding api for 1221?

sleek flare
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my mods folder has nothing except for debug mod

sleek flare
empty mason
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And running the hollow knight app does what?

sleek flare
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just opens default vanilla 1.2.2.1

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without debug mod

empty mason
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The modding api doesn't show up in the top left?

sleek flare
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no

steady lynx
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Did you put the folder in the right place with the right name?

sleek flare
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which one?

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yes i named the whole folder

empty mason
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The modding api

sleek flare
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right? that was the only thing in the modding api zip file

empty mason
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Well, the api is just one file inside that, but yeah if you put that in and replaced existing stuff it should work

sleek flare
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i dragged it over and replaced the regular data

sleek flare
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i even deleted all the "globalsettings.json" files

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because people told me to

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but that didn't fix it

empty mason
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Uh, well in that case I'd say probably just try reinstalling the whole thing. Try and get the mods to work while it's still in your steam instead of a separate patch, then make it it's own patch

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You may want to try this specifically, which requires verifying game integrity, and then instead of using the installer re-add the modding api manually
#archived-modding-help message

fervent finch
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hey im just getting started and im working on downpatching. Is there a problem if I go to Settings, properties, and then betas on steam and change it to 1.2.2.1 that way? I don't know if it works as a proper downpatch and don't want to mess up the first step

hexed thorn
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that works

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tc added that relatively recently to make things easier for speedrunners

fervent finch
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awesome thank you for the help

knotty vigil
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does the debug mod work on the current patch

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I'm worried to download these really old ones idk if they work L:o

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I want to be able to practice watcher knights without resetting but me dumbo

stable quarry
# knotty vigil does the debug mod work on the current patch

#scarab #modinstaller #1.5 #currentpatch #cp #debug

here is a link to 56's scarab releases. this is the best modinstaller option for hk 1.5.n.m by far. use this to get debug for practice, as well as any other mods.
it also has a toggle between modded and full vanilla, so you dont need to have two full installs for runs and practice

https://github.com/fifty-six/Scarab/releases

GitHub

An installer for Hollow Knight mods written in Avalonia. - fifty-six/Scarab

knotty vigil
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ooo tyty

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i'll try this ๐Ÿ˜„

stable quarry
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(Taken from the speedrun discord resources channel, and posted by Serpintext)

knotty vigil
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resources channel :o?

stable quarry
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Yes, in the pinned discord to this channel

knotty vigil
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ohhhhh theres a separate speedrunning discord

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lol thanks

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i looked at it earlier and thought it was just the same server or something lol

stable quarry
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It is very helpful for speedrunning, with strats, resources and seperate chats for each main category.

frozen rose
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where can I get a load normaliser?

bold fjord
jovial mountain
stuck raptor
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load normalizer is also on scarab

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and the 1432 installers

fickle walrus
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New pb

knotty vigil
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Why the notch and nail upgrade?

paper rapids
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how do it reset hollow knight achievements on a mac

fickle walrus
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Notch so spore shroon and shamans stone can be equipped at the same time, without overcharming. Spore shroom makes the hollow knight fight much easier and much faster, for me at least.
Nail upgrade cos I'm a pleb.

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Also I didnt split when I grabbed the charm notch. Which is why it says +1:22. So I just split twice when I grabbed mantis claw which is why they both have the same split time.

snow dome
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Fwiw you can simply swap shaman and spore at Dirtmouth bench. You shouldn't be using spells at all in the THK fight

vernal wasp
turbid falcon
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Fast

flat tulip
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Talk about cutting it close

fickle walrus
loud plank
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I cant really find a good tutorial for current patch seer slide, does anyone have a tutorial for it or can help?

true palm
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make sure you are pressing dash right as you unpause

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its really difficult on current patch, top runners still miss it

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you only lose a few seconds if you can hit the inventory drop when you miss it

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but i'm mashing dash at the same time as unpause

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like a slight delay on dash but almost same time

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your goal is to dash 3 times, so you can turn on hitboxes and see how ur moving, see if ur dashing late

stable quarry
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Is it just about getting to the transition fast enough?

analog monolith
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yep

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and to do that u need to pause early enough, which is entirely a matter of mashing pause

frozen kite
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buenaaaas

prime cosmos
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holas

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hello

finite heart
fickle walrus
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Yeah getting the charm notch and shroom barely loses time. And I just found out you don't even need to get the charm notch. Just exclude shamans altogether for thk. So you only add like 15 seconds to your time getting spore shroom.

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Probably less than 15 seconds

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Well actually it depends. If you're doing qga you can't get spore shroom. It doesn't waste much time getting spore shroom if you take the other route because it's literally on the way

snow dome
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QGA is generally faster, but optimally you will only lose around 10-15s with Spore Shroom instead, and you cut out the hardest skip, one of the hardest sections (QG itself), and make the final fight pretty trivial.

orchid verge
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i did the salbura's shade skip successfully for the first time!

fickle walrus
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Nice

grave kiln
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Why does spore shroom make THK easier? I've heard this, but I still don't understand it

digital jewel
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on 1432 there was a bug that made it deal much more damage than it should to THK

snow dome
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It seems like each individual of hitbox of spore Shroom deals damage, so the idea is that you cast spores in a situation where THK will go through loads of them

wet briar
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new PB- Missed QGA 3 times before getting it one a fouth
8 cycle Uumuu feelspkman
I died at the CDash Gauntlet, right before underplat

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(this time isnโ€™t all that new, just figured iโ€™d share my current pb, i actually did this like a week ago)

terse seal
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Hey I hope this is the right channel to ask this, I'm not in this server much so let me know if I'm in the wrong place.
I'm thinking of starting speedrunning casually but tbh I'm not very good at the game. I'm starting with a guide I found with a route for the 5hr achievement, but I'm stuck on watcher knights. I'm used to fighting them with upgraded nail and spells, more masks, shade cloak, etc. so I just kill them before they have the chance to kill me. Do yall have any tips for getting better at dodging them without shade cloak, or do I just need to git gud?

grave kiln
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Probably just practice a lot

terse seal
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I should probably get 112 before I even think about running

grave kiln
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There might be some specific tips I'm not aware of.

grave kiln
terse seal
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Sounds good. Thank you ๐Ÿ™‚

grave kiln
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Also, any% isnt the most beginner friendly route

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A lot of people recommend 4 mask shards or all skills

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All skills is great because you have good gear

terse seal
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Oooh. Yeah I've mostly watched any% or P5 runs, I haven't seen all skills

grave kiln
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It's a little bit longer than any% I think, but it's easier

terse seal
#

yeah I'll definitely look into that, thanks! ๐Ÿ™‚

grave kiln
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Yw

hazy gorge
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Any tips for a starter speedruner?

snow dome
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;guides

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?guides

sick ravenBOT
snow dome
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Read a guide, and watch some runs. There is absolutely no better way to learn!

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Fireborn's guide on YouTube is outdated, but remains one of the best resources.

hazy gorge
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Thanx

wet briar
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definitely just watch different runners, donโ€™t get discouraged when your not insanely good like they are, it takes time. i still havenโ€™t gotten my sub-1hr

snow dome
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Remember that most people can't complete this game in under 5h

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Only 3.8% of people who own HK have completed it in under 10.

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Remember that srcom is really only a very small, and pretty talented percentage of the HK community.

hazy gorge
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Yeah ik I had a mc Speedrun world record so I kinda have to learn and get used to algorithms

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And find it's weaknesses

fickle walrus
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I never realised it was such a small amount. I mean in 5 hours you can get pretty jacked. 2 nail upgrades, maybe 3, get more masks, get more spells. Shouldn't be too bad no?

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Just spam desolate dive on watcher Knights

snow dome
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I mean I honestly don't know how D-Dark + Shaman's isn't enough.

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Also you never want more than 2 Nail Upgrades for bosses ๐Ÿ‘€

fickle walrus
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Why?

snow dome
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Nail 3 increases the health of many bosses

steady lynx
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Oh no

snow dome
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As does nail 4

digital jewel
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the cost increases and the relative damage benefit decreases

steady lynx
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With nail3 WK has 240 health each instead of 220

snow dome
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Also this. There's a huge chunk of time getting two pale ore

fickle walrus
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Damn

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So 2 nail upgrades in key then

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When I went for pantheon, I was wondering why tf lost kin was taking so much of damage. Literally felt like the first time I fought him

steady lynx
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The dream variants kinda became damage sponges

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Guess they were meant to be endgame bosses

snow dome
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The Pantheons aren't affected, I don't believe

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In Pantheons you really do just want everything if you can

strong vessel
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Warrior dreams and grimmkin have the most extreme health increase; the difference between nail 2 + strength and nail 3 + strength (relevant for spelless TE) on no eyes is one nail hit

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As in two more pale ore and 2000 geo saves one singular nail hit on no eyes (and marmu and some of the other warrior dreams)

grave kiln
sage moon
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Only 3.8%?

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And I though beating PoH was an achievment due to it's rarity

knotty vigil
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More people have done that then beat the game without dying

sage moon
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Ridonkulous

stable quarry
rapid jungle
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It's 52:17

stable quarry
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Current patch?

rapid jungle
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Nope

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It's the patch where you can actually inventory drop

stable quarry
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1221

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My pb is 45:27 on 1221

snow dome
wet briar
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lmao i posted in the wrong channel, hi ig

solar steppe
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im tryna speed run but everytime i enter a new save i cant attack

snow dome
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Are you using mouse?

solar steppe
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yea

snow dome
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You need to bind your mouse buttons to a keyboard key using an external app. This is a known bug. If you head to the server in the pins and search for blue.exe that does this for you.

solar steppe
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ty

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where is it pinned ?

snow dome
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The pinned message if this channel

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Then search that server using discords search function

fickle acorn
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What's everyone's keyboard and mouse setup? I'd like to start playing on keyboard and mouse instead of switch and was wondering what everyone's controls were?

supple acorn
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kbm imo is superior I play:
WASD - movement
E - Focus
Q - Quick csst
I - Inventory
Space bar - Jump
ctrl - super dash
shift - dash
TAB - Map

prime cosmos
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isnt the inventory better in y or 2?

supple acorn
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y? you mean y on controller?

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y on keyboard would be awful with my binds

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2 wouldnt be bad at all

prime cosmos
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yeah 2 is perfect for kyboard imo

supple acorn
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depends what you keys you use to move and what your comfortable with thats the thing about kbm you can find people with odd binds still mechanically as strong as people with the "average" controls

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I cant deal with arrow keys to move for example from my experience with fps games and wasd movement

fickle acorn
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Thank you!

quasi stream
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guys, how should i take on the speedrun achievement. i am not here for the lowest time, but i want to do all of the speedrun completions

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its there a good link to the best routes available

steady lynx
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?srpsa

sick ravenBOT
quasi stream
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i see

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thank you

foggy oar
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i beqat hollow knight with 39 hours witch placement am i in

knotty vigil
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im struggling to get under two hours rn

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watcher knights are jerks

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same with hk LOL

sage skiff
#

may i ask something? i'm just setting up livesplit and why is there a "queen's garden's" split on the split maker? do you NEED to get through the gardens to beat the game?

steady lynx
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No, it's just a standard split for the fastest route, if you want to do the easier Deepnest route you can just remove the split

sage skiff
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thanks

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1 more question

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in the auto split thing do i put "ending" on the last split?

vital osprey
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fastest world record: 0.0000000000000069 seconds

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change my mind

digital jewel
steady lynx
willow flax
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Hi, about getting depots

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I don't trust the fact that the downloader

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wants my username and password

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to download the depots

digital jewel
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don't use it then if you prefer not to

willow flax
digital jewel
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?guides

sick ravenBOT
willow flax
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if it is trustworthy

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Saw it from this video

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and it linked this server

digital jewel
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it is trustworthy

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read the guide on downloading other patches

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which patch are you looking for

willow flax
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Alright thanks, just a bit apprehensive

willow flax
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was looking for guides and this one

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seemed really useful

digital jewel
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ok

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if you read the guide there's a way to do it within steam

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so you don't need to put your steam details manually

willow flax
#

Well I tried that

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console in steam no longer works

digital jewel
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it does

willow flax
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Huh, what?

digital jewel
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read the guide

willow flax
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you can just patch steam like that?

digital jewel
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yes

willow flax
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well im gonna do that instead

willow flax
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thanks mate

digital jewel
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no worries

willow flax
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Appreciate the broken counter

digital jewel
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lol

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that's good

orchid coral
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will speedrun submissions be affected if debug mod is installed but not enabled?

steady lynx
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Yes

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They'll get instantly rejected

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All runs on main and meme boards must be done on a completely clean vanilla install

orchid coral
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then is uninstalling scarab the only way to remove this?

haughty fossil
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Scarab has a button "Disable API"

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press that

orchid coral
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do you mind taking a ss for me?

stuck raptor
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bottom left

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says "toggle api"

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if that's greyed out, then use steam's verify file integrity function to make your game vanilla

orchid coral
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yes its greyed out. thanks everyone!!

knotty vigil
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in me and my friend's co-op room randomizer run I accidentally activated this lever through the floor and my friend cannot do it

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I was wondering if anyone had a consistent setup for it so my friend can do it too

stuck raptor
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turn on the QOL option for 1221 levers

knotty vigil
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1221?

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oh so it worked for me because I have the QOL mod on?

stuck raptor
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yes

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1.2.2.1 levers is an option

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allows hitting levers through walls

knotty vigil
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tyvm

zenith spruce
#

Hey is it possible to get to nailmaster Oro without mothwing cloak and without shadeskip?

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Also without glitch exploits

digital jewel
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you can get mantis claw and then crystal dash to get there

hexed thorn
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epogo/fireball skip to claw -> tram -> KE

zenith spruce
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Cool

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Has anyone ever recorded it?

digital jewel
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if you watch a low% nmg run you'll see the path all the way to the tram

zenith spruce
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'k thanks

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Couldn't this become one of the extended categories?

digital jewel
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maybe. although it's not very unique

stable quarry
zenith spruce
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Do you have a link?

digital jewel
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great hopper% steel soul would still get mothwing cloak

gaunt shale
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I beat it in 5 minutes and cannot prove it because i definitely did but won't prove it

steady lynx
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Good for you

burnt aspen
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hitting levers through walls is one of the most satisfying things about 1221

polar cypress
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Iโ€™m gonna do my very first speed run

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Any tips before I start

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No?

steady lynx
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Beware Watcher Knight.

polar cypress
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Yeah I feel like they are going to be the hardest part of the run

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That and deepnest

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Wish me luck guys

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I will tell you how I did when I finish

polar cypress
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Kk Back

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I died when trying to get mantis claw and gave up

fickle walrus
#

Beware watcher Knights
Beware ummu
Beware the hollow knight
Beware everything

fickle walrus
#

Also. Is dashmaster not worth equipping in the run?

digital jewel
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it's rather slow to get and once you have crystal dash the benefit is very small

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plus overcharming in any case is slow

fickle walrus
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True

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How about Fury of the fallen?
Fight all bosses at 1 hp

digital jewel
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similar problems

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it takes a long time to get and overcharm

fickle walrus
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Damn

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Something interesting I found, not sure whether this is a bug or just the way it was intended. But fury of fallen does not nullify if you pick up lifeblood on cp. So you can get down to 1 mask but have as many lifeblood masks as you want and still deal the fury of the fallen damage. And obviously if you get it it takes away from your lifeblood mask and you still have the damage boost

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*get hit
Is what I meant to say

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But the moment you heal a mask or sit on a bench the damage buffer disappears.

burnt aspen
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@polar cypress I just started learning any percent like a month ago and its been super fun. fireb0rn has a tutorial series for every part of the setup process and the run. Its like a year old at this point and so so the movement has been optimized since then but it does give a lot of good information. Heres a link to the playlist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-aCaVTAUtc&list=PLfkLKB8O1Ff0-AApWYqqgFjMcMMVaW_JH

This is a video explaining all the setup that is recommended before starting Hollow Knight speedruns. Please view the rest of this description for links and timestamps to skip through the video.

https://discord.gg/hollowknight

SELECTING A CATEGORY ..... 2:19
https://www.speedrun.com/hollowknight/

DOWNPATCHING ..... 12:24
https://www.speedrun....

โ–ถ Play video
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also thats super interesting @fickle walrus hollowknice

fickle walrus
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Also when you pick up a charm notch, the game heals you to full health. So when I was at 1 health, had fury of the fallen equipped and pick up a charm notch, my health replenished fully but the red streaks that indicate fury of the fallen is active was still on screen even though I was at full health. It only disappear when I got hit, also I didnt test if you actually still have the damage buff or it was just an error with the interface, so I'm not sure. Also even if you still do have the damage buff, this method is much worse than the lifeblood trick cos you can still get hit and have the buff

digital jewel
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yes blue hearts don't take away the fury buff. that's intended

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also picking up a charm notch lets you keep it as well

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that's most likely unintended

digital jewel
#

neither of those change the numbers with fury of the fallen in any% though

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they would both take extra time to take advantage of

fickle walrus
#

What sort of charms are used in other hollow knight speedruns?

strong vessel
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The main speed charms in 1xx categories are shaman stone, spell twister, dashmaster, and dream wielder

digital jewel
#

in 106% for example they use fury and soul catcher early on, but fury gets switched out for spell twister and then soul catcher gets removed for shaman stone

strong vessel
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With others such as grimmchild (required) and soul eater for colos

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The main reason why those are all used is because you have to pick them up anyway

fickle walrus
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Ah I see

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Is there a speedrun category where the goal is just to pick up every charm?

strong vessel
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Yes, it's called salubra's blessing%

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There's also all charm notches, which requires 25 of the 40 charms to be able to buy all of salubra's notches

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And several charm-specific categories, like lifeblood core% and nailmaster's glory% and mark of pride%

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And elegy%

fickle walrus
#

Oh cool
They sound sick

strong vessel
#

They are! Meme cats (that's what we call non-main-board categories) are very fun

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And there are a lot of them

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Around 80 I believe

fickle walrus
#

How long do some meme cats take?
Like salubra's blessing% for example?

strong vessel
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Salubra's blessing% is about two hours loadless, but there are much shorter and longer meme cats

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One of the shortest is 4 mask shards, which is to complete a mask

snow dome
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You can check speedrun dot com for times

strong vessel
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One of the longest is pantheon 5 boss order, where you fight all of the bosses in the base game in the order you encounter them in P5 (around 3 hours but I couldn't think of any longer ones)

strong vessel
snow dome
#

Does All Achievements count? ๐Ÿ‘€

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Low% TE dropless

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That's probably just hard rather than long

fickle walrus
snow dome
#

4MS is one of the the mainly recommended beginner categories

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Any%, All Skills, and 4MS

strong vessel
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I also recommend myla%; it's short and helps you practice some of the major early sections of any% and all skills

strong vessel
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I mean it's in the same place as 107%, which is undeniably main-board

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But yeah all achievements is 8 hours long

sage moon
#

This will probably make you cry.

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Weep before it's messiness.

fickle walrus
#

8 hours is the optimal time I'm guessing. So for most people it's even longer

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Which makes that run absolutely insane

strong vessel
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It's also a tradition to run that category after getting twitch partner, so it isn't something that most people do

fickle walrus
#

Ah I see

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Also I'm just realising you need to beat p5. So barely anyone can even compete the run. Myself included

sage moon
#

Sounds horrible

strong vessel
sage moon
#

mine isn't, I mean

strong vessel
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I know, I was just showing you an example of one

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Because it's fun to look at

sage moon
#

If you say so

fickle walrus
#

At least 112 doesn't require p5. So that's doable

sage moon
#

NEAT

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ugh

#

wait there's no timer for messages?

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Bet you can't guess what the route is.

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For a number of reasons

#

'Sup

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There is no cooldown

strong vessel
#

112% doesn't but the category does

sage moon
#

ok

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I was gonna fill the screen with me

#

wait no that sounds wrong

grave kettle
#

We woo we woo we woo

sage moon
#

Imagine forgetting rules, couldn't be me

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They found me

#

uhhhh

#

I'm going to escape to a different channel

fickle walrus
strong vessel
#

Because we already have to do the first four and we're already in godhome

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The full name is 112% all pantheon bosses, which includes absrad

fickle walrus
glass schooner
#

speedrun deleting hollow knight after installing it

burnt aspen
#

thats truly the best category

muted thorn
#

sry for the noob question, but let me ask
my livesplit doesn't work automatically after downpatching HK. it used to work before that so i guess setting-up was done properly. what kind of reason do you guys think there is?

weary root
#

what is happening exactly? Timer not starting, not splitting?

muted thorn
#

both, not starting automatically and not splitting automatically even if manually started

weary root
#

Right click on livesplit -> Edit splits, and make sure the autosplitter is activated

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if it is then go into settings and make sure that the autosplits are set up correctly

muted thorn
#

yep it says autosplitter is activated (can go into setting and displays "Deactivate" button)

weary root
#

click on the settings button next to deactivate

muted thorn
#

like this

weary root
#

ok turn off end-triggering autosplit that will mess up the final split

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The other thing to try is opening livesplit after HK

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sometimes it won't find the game properly if you open HK second

muted thorn
#

roger, ill try

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it works! im very grateful, tyvm eisog

weary root
#

Nice! GL on your runs

muted thorn
#

you too!

warped wigeon
#

Im starting to learn how to speedrun and I have set up live split already. earlier it was working just fine in fullscreen mode and was showing up. I downloaded the debug menu mod for 1.2.2.1 and then tried doing it again and now it will not work unless the game is windowed. after that i tried getting rid of the debug mod to see if that would change anything and it didnt. is there a fix for this?

weary root
#

put "-popupwindow" in steam launch options for HK

warped wigeon
#

how do i do that?

weary root
#

open steam library, right click HK -> properties

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should be a box down the bottom called launch options

warped wigeon
#

its with the dash at the beginning right?

weary root
#

yes

warped wigeon
#

it still isn't working

sour pivot
#

I kill massive moss charger in 7 minutes and 56 seconds

whole elk
#

bullymosscharger%

grave kiln
#

I would run that category

gleaming marten
#

Bullymosscharger% could be fighting him in gp then every fight in hall of gods

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Ending after you kill him in radiant form

snow dome
#

"Kill 4 different Massive Moss Chargers"

somber gull
#

greenpath, hall of gods, pantheon 1 and?

gleaming marten
#

Iโ€™m not sure about p5

snow dome
#

Just all 3 Hall of Gods modes

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But yes, I like "Kill six different MMCs". Ends at the beginning of p5 lol

autumn nova
#

are there any speedruns done in the latest patch of the game?

#

categories

foggy mango
#

I've been trying to create a new one; OST% you have to listen through all 24 tracks in-game, but It's proving difficult to route.

autumn nova
#

mh

wicked trench
open sage
#

is lever skip possible on 1.4.3.2

#

i cant seem to get it

somber gull
#

not unless you have QoL mod, so generally no

open sage
#

mk

#

cant downpatch becuase console

#

damn

snow dome
#

You will want to follow current patch guides

stoic cipher
#

Larry the spike asked for a distraction

wicked trench
#

You'll have to kill Mario and make the normal route if you are speaking about the one before WatcherKnights

charred valve
#

Scam???

muted thorn
#

any tips for beating Watcher Knights in Any% run? so strong...

stuck raptor
#

practice

old blade
#

Hi! Quick question about speedrunning Any%.
What are the downside of doing it on the current patch?
I can't do the inventory-thing right?
Are there more disadvantages?

muted thorn
#

lever before Watcher Knights

muted thorn
stuck raptor
#

there's not really a tip or trick or shortcut for WKs. just gotta put in the time

muted thorn
#

understood. thx

true palm
#

I've ran both and cp has some cool movement that 1221 doesn't do because of inventory or other changes, like left side spire

#

Cp has a harder uumuu harder thk and a less consistent early game, but has a way easier late game, option for sporeshroom, etc

#

It's really just a preference thing now, especially since CP has become more popular, it's become more competitive

sour pivot
prime cosmos
#

does someone know how is this app called???????

#

and where do i get it

knotty vigil
#

livesplit

prime cosmos
#

and how do i make that i the pic, like sections

#

like in vengeful spirit there is fury, knight and spirit again

#

i dont know how

gritty grotto
prime cosmos
#

thanks

#

ehm about autosplitter

#

im confused

gritty grotto
#

about what

prime cosmos
#

the split maker i think its called

gritty grotto
#

live split?

#

or what part

prime cosmos
#

just before part 1

gritty grotto
#

the hk splitmaker

prime cosmos
#

yes

gritty grotto
#

if you download it and then add it to live split

prime cosmos
#

that

gritty grotto
#

i believe it puts the splits in for you

prime cosmos
#

oh

gritty grotto
#

i dont have much experience with thi tho

#

are you in the hk speedrunning server?

prime cosmos
#

no

gritty grotto
#

you should join it

#

everyone can help a lot ther

#

but basically

#

one sec

#

so basically you put your splits that you want in the red circled area, and it makes a splits file that you can then import into live split

#

you can use pre made splits, or creat your own

prime cosmos
#

oh

#

that looks a bit hard

#

i should do it by hand better

gritty grotto
#

ok its actually not that hard

prime cosmos
#

where is the speedrun server

gritty grotto
#

i invited you

prime cosmos
#

thanks

gritty grotto
#

but what you can do

#

is select from the drop down menu in the top left

#

a pre made rout

#

obviously the optimal one

thorny musk
#

How much time does chinese save over english? Could someone flex incredibly hard and get wr using english?

gritty grotto
#

i think with how optimized

#

the route is

#

wr with english would be nearly impossible

#

i think its at least 5 seconds

digital jewel
gritty grotto
#

or that might be a different game idk

#

ok yea i have the wrong game

thorny musk
#

oh damn, there's a lot more dialogue than I thought

knotty vigil
#

How does the game even decide how fast dialogue goes

#

I heard itโ€™s based on how many characters

#

But what does that mean exactly

gritty grotto
#

oh my god imagine a speedrun to read every line of text in the game including dream nail dialogue

livid remnant
#

Hey, hows everyone doing here

#

decided im going to setup hollow knight for speedrunning and like... do a run this weekend

#

still deciding on a category... anyone have any suggestions?

analog monolith
#

if u just want to hop in and do a main board run, any% is the go-to; it's short and theres plenty of route variations that make things easier

livid remnant
#

any% NMG Current patch?

analog monolith
#

if ur ok with doing a little bit of practice beforehand, all skills is a great option, the main difficult parts are 2 sets of dark rooms, early isma's skips, and fighting hornet 2, but everything else is simple enough

#

any% nmg either on 1221 or current patch, 1221 is slightly easier imo but takes a slight bit more setup

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if u want to do smth glitched, true ending all glitches is fun, theres a guide for it somewhere iirc

livid remnant
#

is 1221 what most people set up? havent looked into how to downpatch, but im watching a guide by..

#

Fireborn actually

#

seems informative

analog monolith
#

yep, 1221 is the most popular patch and the fastest for any% and almost all other categories

livid remnant
#

alright, I'll probably do that then

analog monolith
#

the catch is it runs terribly on many computers

livid remnant
#

oh lol

analog monolith
#

so if u have questional specs (see: <150fps on current patch) then u would probably want to stay on cp

livid remnant
#

I have an I7-8700 and a gtx 1060... should be more than enough to run hollowknight

#

never really had an issue

analog monolith
#

yeah that sounds like plenty enough for 1221

livid remnant
#

#DontGatekeepPotatoGamers

analog monolith
#

(note that the downpatching method fire introduces is outdated and theres an easier way through steam if u have the game there; see #modding-discussion pins for how to do so for either 1221 or 1432)

livid remnant
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In his description I see theres a section that mentions its outdated and theres a better steam method

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links to a vid by Verulean

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DepotDownloader?

analog monolith
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not sure if even that one's right now lemme check

digital jewel
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you can get 1221 directly through steam

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it's available as a beta

livid remnant
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Oh really?

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Oh wow, would you look at that

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thats helpful. thank you

digital jewel
livid remnant
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you got a suggestion for a category as well?

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probably just gonna do any%nmg on 1221... seems easiest to begin with

digital jewel
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it's the most common choice

livid remnant
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seems to have the most guides as well

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Thank you! gonna follow fireborns guide and like... mod things... might take a few hours I guess

livid remnant
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that was way easier to set up than I thought it would be

charred valve
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Hey just wondering is there anyway to see your livesplit timer while playing? Do i have to change my game to no fullscreen or smthin?

weary root
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If you put "-popupwindow" in steam launch options it should open the game in borderless fullscreen which should let livesplit be on top

charred valve
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What about if you have the game on microsoft store?

lucid jewel
charred valve
fallow glade
knotty vigil
loud plank
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Im running current patch, and for some reason even though im holding right, in the forgotten crossroads goam room im getting hit by the second goam

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Any clue why?

stuck raptor
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your jump over the first one is probably too high/long

fallow cradle
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hey im curently trying to setup a debug version for 1.2.2.1 but it makes my game look like this. Was wondering if anyone had an idea of what i could do. I followed fireb0rn's guide on speedrun.com and everything worked until the debug mod. Thx

true palm
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you must've deleted assets

fallow cradle
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i didnt delete anything

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i copied the moded api folder like he did

true palm
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screenshot your folders

fallow cradle
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and it does that

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which one

true palm
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do the hollowknight_Data Managed and whatever folder hollowknight_Data is in

fallow cradle
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thnak you for taking time to help btw ๐Ÿ™‚

fallow cradle
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omg i got it

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thank you you made me check everything and i think i didnt copy all the things right

analog drift
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How to speedrun hollow knight

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Wait

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This isn't google

cedar hemlock
final elk
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:noddingknight:

stone lichen
toxic field
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hello

prisma jewel
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Hi, im trying to record a run but i have a bad laptop and i cant use some recording software, can anyone help me with this?

grave kiln
prisma jewel
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Im trying to record two windows but i cannot record livesplit and hollow knight at the same time with the built in screen recorder (xbox game bar) and every other -free- screen recorder lags the gameplay and therefore the video is bad quality

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i am running windows 10 on an ASUS laptop

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i want a solution that allows me to record livesplit over hollow knight without/or with minimum performance issues

digital jewel
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fascinating

grave kiln
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(Besides get a hardware upgrade)

vagrant warren
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When you say "every other free screen recorder" what have you actually tried? (Maybe you haven't actually tried "every one" and people may have suggestions of other things for you to try) But if it comes down to it there's always the good old point a camera at your screen strat.

prisma jewel
stark flower
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I'm very new to speedrunning so i haven't set up a timer and I usually look at the timer on the save. But does anyone know if that timer pauses at room transitions?

vagrant warren
stark flower
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alright thanks a lot ill be getting the actual timer now

analog monolith
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(though if u already get lower than 100fps w/o framerate cap there might not be much u can do...)

knotty vigil
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hey, any tas makers here? im wondering if it might theoretically be possible to pogo out of kingspass at the start of the game

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with 3 flies + your shade

knotty vigil
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i think it might be possible to get up this path, plus considering you can land on the edge of these spikes without taking damage. but on the top, after you go to the next room, it seems like this area is a dead end

digital jewel
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you can't get up at all in the next room without glitches

knotty vigil
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major glitches?

digital jewel
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yes

livid remnant
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Tfw your first run takes you over 3 hours... and obs wasn't recording zoteanger

knotty vigil
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OMG RAY JUST GOT THE NEW WR TIME

final elk
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What category?

raven marsh
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Is there a save file with all the endgame stuff already collected just for practicing bosses?

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I assume there's some kind of practice file people use, but I can't seem to find it

thorny musk
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?guides

sick ravenBOT
thorny musk
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They're, uh, somewhere in there

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So was some new glitch found today?

stuck raptor
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no. yesterday

knotty vigil
thorny musk
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thanks, that's all the info I needed to give up on understanding it

analog monolith
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basically - u can load multiple rooms on top of each other, or one room on top of itself multiple times; this can be manipulated to get multiple dreamers from one room duped over itself 3 times

knotty vigil
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wack

knotty vigil
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hmm today i will watch a speedrun

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<- clueless

rapid jungle
weary root
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If you did it once you can do it again!

sly tulip
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are there speedrunning categories for the pantheons?

weary root
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yeah if you look on SRC they're under individual level

sly tulip
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oh nice

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thanks

weary root
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sorry it's called Level leaderboard

rapid jungle
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I mostly just do p5 runs for fun

snow dome
slender lance
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Iโ€™m thinking about getting into speed running, but first, where can I look for the rules like what version to play, if you can use QOL mods, etc?

snow dome
wicked trench
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https://www.speedrun.com/hollowknight
You have to search for the category you want to try and check "view rules" - everything will be written here
There are different categories: for the main one you can't use any mod
But if you want to use QoL there is a separate category

slender lance
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Thx

bold cairn
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sorry for this rather basic question but I am to stupid to find answers online: How do you guys train bossfights for the runs? Do you just do the run over and over again or is there a way to do them over and over again?

steady lynx
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We use a mod that allows us to make savestates before the fight

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Then reload it

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If you're on console you're out of luck though

hollow pier
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does anyone know a good 112% run in 1080p60 i can watch?

stoic sluice
steady lynx
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Monstah's Internet kinda had issues as he was streaming the current record

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Alternatively whenever Blue finishes a run we'll also have that

bold cairn
steady lynx
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I'd have to ask one of the 1.5 runners if it's on Scarab

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Alt join the pinned server and ask in tech support there

bold cairn
snow dome
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Debug mod

prime cosmos
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How to reset livesplit? I accidentsly let it on all night and im like 8h on final split

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Everything are now good times lol

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Please i really need help

wicked trench
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If you f2 you should reset the run and the game should ask you if you want to keep the splits
If that's what you mean, otherwise you might be meaning to delete the times: in that case there should be an option on the bottom left of livesplit if I'm not mistaken
Otherwise I don't get what you mean quirrelmonocle

prime cosmos
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Yeha i want to delete past times

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But i cant see the option

wicked trench
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go to "edit splits"

prime cosmos
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Okay

wicked trench
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Your can delete a specific one from the table or delete like "clear Sum of Best" from the bottom left (?)

prime cosmos
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I did it

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Thanks a lot

sand shadow
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Tips for any% watchers?

vagrant warren
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route in upgrades or grind practice

chilly widget
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hello

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im tryna route pacifist true ending or just pacifist

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anyone wanna help

clear harness
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oh yeah

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Need help

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Speedrunning hollow knight

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i need images to make livesplit speedrun

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like Fireborn's Image in livesplit speedrun

hard verge
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My first any% attempt (i did not follow the normal route zote I got extra stuff which is shade soul and Ismaโ€™s tear)
My goal was 3 hours or less and I am very happy I managed to do it

wicked trench
steady lynx
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I feel like anyone who talks in this chat would know that Shaman Stone is by far the best charm in the game

hard verge
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Yes

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Thank you

steady lynx
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Spells pretty easily outclasses nail damage until you have nail4 really

hard verge
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Nail 3 imo

steady lynx
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Depends on situation, nail3 with narts is great in colos in late 1xx

hard verge
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Yeah

steady lynx
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Especially with the new Fury colos

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I really need to get back into 1xx, but having too much fun with GE right now

dense gyro
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guys, how do you get to city of tears in steel soul mode?

brittle meadow
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City crest

digital jewel
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the fastest way is with tram pass

dense gyro
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is there not a faster way?

digital jewel
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because it gets you into the right side of city

snow dome
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You could look on speedrun dot com

steady lynx
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Salubra WCS feelspkman

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this is banned in NMG btw, don't do it

river forum
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anyone have a list of reasons why livesplit won't auto start on game start? I think I've done everything in the "how to livesplit" document correctly, but I could have just missed something.

stuck raptor
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is your autosplitter enabled? are you starting livesplit after the game? do you have autosplit events set?

river forum
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enabled like this?

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I've tried starting it after the game

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what are the autosplit events?

stuck raptor
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click settings

river forum
stuck raptor
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so no

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you don't have any split events

river forum
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so I need to add them all manually?

stuck raptor
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you'll need to add all split events that tell the autosplitter when to trigger

river forum
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ok

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what's the start of the game called

stuck raptor
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don't need one

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game start and end are hard coded events

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unless you check the boxes at the top to change that

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"start trigger autosplit" and "end trigger autosplit"

river forum
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so don't check them?

stuck raptor
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unless you're doing an IL category, no. leave them blank

river forum
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ok

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thank you

stuck raptor
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you might be able to import the category's split events from hksplitmaker

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but not sure

river forum
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that's what I tried but it didn't add so I'l just do it manually

rocky lily
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does anyone know how to do a fireball skip?

stuck raptor
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proper timing and using quick cast

wicked trench
snow dome
river forum
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Import it again?

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Or just add the split events

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Just adding the events should get it to work no?

snow dome
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Just import it again. You can drag and drop the lss file you downloaded straight into LiveSplit and it will add everything now

cold totem
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hi! any help on the watcher knights? I can manage to get over it consistantly, and being unable to try the speedrun past them is really frustrating

vagrant warren
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route in upgrades (like nail 1 or shade soul), or grind practice

analog monolith
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if u just want to finish runs, then ssoul/nail 1 are the best options to do so. they make wk slightly easier to beat and lose relatively low amounts of time (1ish minute for nail 1, about 3-4 minutes for shade soul probably?)

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if u want to stick with the optimal nail 0 shaman route, watch guides and practice. it's the hardest fight for a reason and not easy to get consistent

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it's also a decently complex fight so a guide is going to be great for learning "how to beat them"

outer orchid
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so... the autosplitter is starting at the start of the game, which is good, but when i compare to game time the timer sits at 0 and if i compare to real time, it counts up as normal... (i have the detailed timers timing method set to "Current Timing Method" in the layout settings). What am i doing wrong? NotLikeThis

analog monolith
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usually this is caused by not having autosplits set up in the settings; go to edit splits -> autosplitter settings and make sure that u have autosplits set up for points where u want to split

outer orchid
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ahh hmm im using the splits that were in the resources tab... maybe something is janky with them

analog monolith
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and if u downloaded splits from src/splitmaker sometimes the autosplits can disappear when u load in the file, loading it in again should fix it

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ah yeah i was typing that lol

outer orchid
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yepyep, that was the fix, tyvm hilmskHeart

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also, discovered 1.2.2.1 is in the betas now in steam, holy crap its a miracle (its been a while since ive done any runs)

sly basin
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Guys I am a new speed runner and I need help because my controller or game doesnโ€™t let me inventory drop which is really annoying. Please help.

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Also why do we need to put the language in Chinese (or whatever it is I really donโ€™t know) does it make your game run faster or something?