#speedrunning | Hollow Knight | Page 164

mossy sapphire May 3, 2021, 7:32 PM

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all my friends are too broke to gift games to others

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or just dont want to

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how sad

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😳

outer gate May 3, 2021, 7:33 PM

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good ass friend bruh

mossy sapphire May 3, 2021, 7:34 PM

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id like to gift HK to a friend

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who obviously prefers to buy nitro instead of the game

kind flume May 3, 2021, 7:34 PM

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Guys, this is a help channel for speedrunning, try to keep it on topic

mossy sapphire May 3, 2021, 7:34 PM

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but i dont wanna spend 15€ for this shroompog

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he plays on cracked since like 1 month

digital jewel May 3, 2021, 7:41 PM

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maggotprime

south herald May 3, 2021, 7:41 PM

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Had to mute user

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Don’t discuss stuff like that here

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Period

daring coral May 3, 2021, 7:55 PM

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can i ask about livesplit here or is there somewhere else i should ask?

digital jewel May 3, 2021, 7:56 PM

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this is the perfect place for that

daring coral May 3, 2021, 7:56 PM

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ok nice

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ive seen people have a split for the start of thk fight

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where is that in autosplitter?

kind flume May 3, 2021, 7:57 PM

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I think it's call chains broken nowadays

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Or something like it. It's an event

daring coral May 3, 2021, 7:57 PM

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k thanks ill look for that

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oh thanks, ive found it

kind flume May 3, 2021, 7:58 PM

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Nice!

daring coral May 3, 2021, 7:58 PM

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also, am i correct in the interpretation that i dont set one for game end?

kind flume May 3, 2021, 7:58 PM

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That's right

daring coral May 3, 2021, 7:58 PM

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well, i guess im all set for my first run

kind flume May 3, 2021, 7:59 PM

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Good luck!

daring coral May 3, 2021, 7:59 PM

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thanks

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i expect to get at least 5 hours

kind flume May 3, 2021, 8:00 PM

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There's some good guides out there if you haven't seen them

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?srpsa

sick ravenBOT May 3, 2021, 8:01 PM

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Reminder: This category is intended for competitive speedrunning discussion. Questions about achievements should be directed to #hk-help.
Guide for the 5hr speedrunning achievement: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1861523602

kind flume May 3, 2021, 8:01 PM

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For example

daring coral May 3, 2021, 8:02 PM

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oh no, that was self deprecation, i am actually doing a serious run

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god i hope that ends up being self deprecation

kind flume May 3, 2021, 8:03 PM

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Oh haha uuwuu well I hope you do well

daring coral May 3, 2021, 8:03 PM

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also just to double check, if i have debug mod installed, i would be able to see it in main menu right?

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id hate to be invalidated

hearty adder May 3, 2021, 8:04 PM

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Yeah, you can see modding api + any mods in the main menu

kind flume May 3, 2021, 8:04 PM

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Yeah. That's why you have to show the main menu at the start of the run

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Double check all the rules before your run!

daring coral May 3, 2021, 8:04 PM

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nice, thanks guys, see you in a while

hearty adder May 3, 2021, 8:04 PM

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Much luck on your first run uuwuu

daring coral May 3, 2021, 8:07 PM

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ok i just reread the rules just incase, blue.exe doesnt count as a macro yes?

kind flume May 3, 2021, 8:08 PM

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No, it's allowed

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Long as you don't bind one button to multiple actions

strong vessel May 3, 2021, 8:45 PM

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blue.exe and SOCD cleaner are both allowed

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Russian hacks shroompog

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Speaking of which, if you aren't using SOCD cleaner yet, use it

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It's amazing

burnt grove May 3, 2021, 9:32 PM

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I've felt so fresh in the mornings ever since I started using SOCD cleaner

elfin vortex May 3, 2021, 9:36 PM

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Am I allowed to use joytokey to have two buttons on the controller assigned to 1 action in a run? (example: having x and lb on controller assigned to attack)

digital jewel May 3, 2021, 9:37 PM

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yeah that's allowed

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but the opposite wouldn't be

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so having two actions on one button

elfin vortex May 3, 2021, 9:38 PM

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digital jewel yeah that's allowed

Ok cool

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Also how do I have multiple patches of the game installed at the same time? I have the game on GOG (Want to know for the future)

haughty fossil May 3, 2021, 9:42 PM

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copy the downpatched version to another folder and run from there

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w/ gog that should be it

digital jewel May 3, 2021, 9:43 PM

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gog has no drm so there's nothing complicated about it yeah

elfin vortex May 3, 2021, 9:45 PM

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But wont it just change back to 1432 when I reinstall cp or is that not an issue?

digital jewel May 3, 2021, 9:45 PM

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if you copy it somewhere else, no

elfin vortex May 3, 2021, 9:49 PM

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Oh ok. Sorry to ask another question but when playing modded hk are achievments disabled? If not how do I disable them cuz while I have all of them on console I wanna get the achievments legit on pc

analog monolith May 3, 2021, 9:50 PM

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they are not disabled on modded afaik

elfin vortex May 3, 2021, 9:52 PM

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Oh soulpensive rlly wanted to play room rando but if it means accidentally getting achievments then ig I'll wait

digital jewel May 3, 2021, 9:53 PM

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going offline on steam might prevent achievements from being tracked

subtle glade May 3, 2021, 9:53 PM

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What achievements are you afraid to get?

haughty fossil May 3, 2021, 9:53 PM

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you can use steam achievement manager to get rid of achievements you've got

elfin vortex May 3, 2021, 9:54 PM

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digital jewel going offline on steam might prevent achievements from being tracked

Maybe that'll work on my gog vers

snow dome May 3, 2021, 9:54 PM

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You can open your game file directly from the folder without opening steam and you won't get the achievements

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I learned that when I beat Pantheon 5. 🙃

elfin vortex May 3, 2021, 9:54 PM

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Ah cool

analog monolith May 3, 2021, 9:54 PM

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gog is diff though i assume

subtle glade May 3, 2021, 9:55 PM

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snow dome I learned that when I beat Pantheon 5. 🙃

Honestly at that point I would debug myself infinite damage and do it or something like that

elfin vortex May 3, 2021, 9:55 PM

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subtle glade What achievements are you afraid to get?

Ones that I havent done. I havent completed a 112 so lots are still unlocked

analog monolith May 3, 2021, 9:56 PM

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in rando your percentage is based on how many checks you've picked up, and never goes above 100%

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so just don't do flower quest or one of the colos

subtle glade May 3, 2021, 9:56 PM

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Doing 112 before a rando might be smart

analog monolith May 3, 2021, 9:56 PM

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and you won't get any of the completion achievements

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or don't pick up that rancid egg at qg stag for 200 geo or something idk

subtle glade May 3, 2021, 9:57 PM

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You mean you didn't do 112 as an achievement or didn't do 112 as in you haven't explored the whole map yet?

elfin vortex May 3, 2021, 9:59 PM

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subtle glade You mean you didn't do 112 as an achievement or didn't do 112 as in you haven't ...

I've gotten all cheevos on console i just wanna redo them on pc. By 112 i mean the speedrun cat which Im learning but i've only gotten like halfway into a run cuz starting work on the guide

snow dome May 3, 2021, 10:00 PM

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subtle glade Honestly at that point I would debug myself infinite damage and do it or somethi...

I'll get it at some point during my 112 practice after 1.5 comes out

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112% is hell. Getting my 106% down to like 2h 45 ish before I work on that

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Maybe 3h

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Then it's getting consistent with Pantheons after that.

jagged vault May 3, 2021, 10:01 PM

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i'll be honest running the category for a bit might be a good idea before making the guide

elfin vortex May 3, 2021, 10:02 PM

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Any is too simple/short imo to be interesting and 106 isnt appealing cuz its like why not just do 112

analog monolith May 3, 2021, 10:02 PM

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because 1221 zotewheeze

elfin vortex May 3, 2021, 10:02 PM

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jagged vault i'll be honest running the category for a bit might be a good idea before making...

Yup its abit odd but we're mainly updating monstahs maps and adding some text and vid demos to it to make it more indepth

snow dome May 3, 2021, 10:03 PM

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1221 is so good and so bad at the same time. My game runs like trash on this patch

elfin vortex May 3, 2021, 10:03 PM

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Same but not having to get inv drops frame perfect is so nice

subtle glade May 3, 2021, 10:04 PM

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And lever skips

royal whale May 3, 2021, 10:04 PM

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guys i finaly found the problem with my livesplit after like 2 weeks

analog monolith May 3, 2021, 10:04 PM

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not having to do watcher's spire arena is so nice

subtle glade May 3, 2021, 10:04 PM

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royal whale guys i finaly found the problem with my livesplit after like 2 weeks

What was it?

analog monolith May 3, 2021, 10:04 PM

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not having to do elegant soul warrior too

snow dome May 3, 2021, 10:04 PM

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This category gets Elegant Key so I don't even get to do my favourite Lever Skip

royal whale May 3, 2021, 10:04 PM

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when i opened it as adminstrator it worked

analog monolith May 3, 2021, 10:04 PM

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o

daring coral May 3, 2021, 10:05 PM

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hecking yeet bois

snow dome May 3, 2021, 10:05 PM

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Lol

daring coral May 3, 2021, 10:05 PM

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1:37:24

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first AS run

royal whale May 3, 2021, 10:05 PM

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what is AS

daring coral May 3, 2021, 10:05 PM

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All skills

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i died to hornet 2 like 400 times

royal whale May 3, 2021, 10:06 PM

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nice i got any % in 1 hour 24 mins my sec ond time

daring coral May 3, 2021, 10:06 PM

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but aside from that it was decent

elfin vortex May 3, 2021, 10:06 PM

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Which patch is AS run on?

daring coral May 3, 2021, 10:06 PM

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1.2.2.1

subtle glade May 3, 2021, 10:06 PM

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1.2.2.1

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Lever skips are even more op with dash slash

daring coral May 3, 2021, 10:06 PM

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yeah

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theres like 3 right?

royal whale May 3, 2021, 10:06 PM

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wait you need to be on a certain patch to submit a run?

haughty fossil May 3, 2021, 10:07 PM

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no, there are current patch categories

elfin vortex May 3, 2021, 10:07 PM

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No its just the optimal patch for most cats

subtle glade May 3, 2021, 10:07 PM

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It's just that 1.2.2.1 is the fastest

elfin vortex May 3, 2021, 10:07 PM

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elfin vortex No its just the optimal patch for most cats

Cats like 112 tho are always run on cp

subtle glade May 3, 2021, 10:07 PM

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daring coral theres like 3 right?

Spire, soul sanctum, and shade soul right?

daring coral May 3, 2021, 10:07 PM

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most categories have a current patch (cp) and an any patch category

subtle glade May 3, 2021, 10:07 PM

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Or am I missing something

strong vessel May 3, 2021, 10:08 PM

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There are a ton

daring coral May 3, 2021, 10:08 PM

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subtle glade Spire, soul sanctum, and shade soul right?

theres also one to get into queens gardens

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so more than 3

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my brain scrambled

strong vessel May 3, 2021, 10:08 PM

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Every one of that type of lever that's reachable

daring coral May 3, 2021, 10:08 PM

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so how do i submit this?

analog monolith May 3, 2021, 10:09 PM

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2 in sanctum

haughty fossil May 3, 2021, 10:09 PM

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1221 lever skips are all city-style levers. so the lever next to lemm, the levers next to the elevator above lemm, all levers in sanctum etc.. can be skipped

daring coral May 3, 2021, 10:09 PM

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i need to upload it to youtube or something right?

analog monolith May 3, 2021, 10:09 PM

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1 at the beginning, 1 in spell tiwster room

strong vessel May 3, 2021, 10:09 PM

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4 in sanctum

analog monolith May 3, 2021, 10:09 PM

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but those are the only 2 relevant ones

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oh wait

haughty fossil May 3, 2021, 10:09 PM

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daring coral i need to upload it to youtube or something right?

yes, upload to a site where its publicly available (unlisted is fine for youtube) and won't be taken down

strong vessel May 3, 2021, 10:09 PM

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The one 106 uses, the one AS uses, hell room, and the one after Soul Master

analog monolith May 3, 2021, 10:09 PM

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i forgot ab this but didn't the new autosplitter update fix savequits

elfin vortex May 3, 2021, 10:09 PM

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daring coral i need to upload it to youtube or something right?

Yup or a twitch thingy. Just make an src acc then press submit run

small forge May 3, 2021, 10:11 PM

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im crying

molten aurora May 3, 2021, 10:11 PM

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AS uses 5 lever skips throughout the run I'm fairly sure.

small forge May 3, 2021, 10:11 PM

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man

strong vessel May 3, 2021, 10:11 PM

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jagged vault i'll be honest running the category for a bit might be a good idea before making...

To be fair, they aren't the only one making the guide, and I've watched so many 112 runs and done a bunch of segments and several runs myself

small forge May 3, 2021, 10:11 PM

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just lost a 5:34 run cause i didnt recorded it i thout it was recording but it wasn't

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p1

royal whale May 3, 2021, 10:12 PM

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lol in the patch im currently in there is only 2 runs

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guess im about to be the 3rd lmao

elfin vortex May 3, 2021, 10:12 PM

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strong vessel To be fair, they aren't the only one making the guide, and I've watched so many ...

Its mainly updating maps and adding vid demos too

strong vessel May 3, 2021, 10:12 PM

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Yes, but I think Blue's point was knowing the route

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I think you're just as qualified as I am

haughty fossil May 3, 2021, 10:13 PM

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royal whale lol in the patch im currently in there is only 2 runs

fwiw if you update to current patch you can compare on the current patch leaderboards, which will be a lot more competitive

elfin vortex May 3, 2021, 10:13 PM

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I rlly need to work on commiting second half to memory

strong vessel May 3, 2021, 10:13 PM

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But I have been running the category a little longer

small forge May 3, 2021, 10:14 PM

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the only thing i got recorded cause i pressed the record button to end the thing and i recorded this

elfin vortex May 3, 2021, 10:14 PM

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elfin vortex I rlly need to work on commiting second half to memory

Notes are kinda inconvenient ngl

molten aurora May 3, 2021, 10:14 PM

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Notes are pretty important though.

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Even if it's just the split names.

strong vessel May 3, 2021, 10:14 PM

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Yeah

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And stags

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(Which are often put in split names)

elfin vortex May 3, 2021, 10:15 PM

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Split names are good enough. Main issue with notes for me is that I end up losing time looking at them so memory is more convenient

royal whale May 3, 2021, 10:15 PM

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do i update to current patch or down patch to 1.2.2.1

elfin vortex May 3, 2021, 10:15 PM

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royal whale do i update to current patch or down patch to 1.2.2.1

Depends

strong vessel May 3, 2021, 10:16 PM

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Both?

molten aurora May 3, 2021, 10:16 PM

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I agree, both.

elfin vortex May 3, 2021, 10:16 PM

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royal whale do i update to current patch or down patch to 1.2.2.1

What cat

strong vessel May 3, 2021, 10:16 PM

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Both regardless of category

elfin vortex May 3, 2021, 10:16 PM

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Mhm

royal whale May 3, 2021, 10:17 PM

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any% NMG

molten aurora May 3, 2021, 10:17 PM

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1221 is faster for any%

royal whale May 3, 2021, 10:17 PM

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what is better for the last patch

molten aurora May 3, 2021, 10:18 PM

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112% only

elfin vortex May 3, 2021, 10:18 PM

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1221 makes any% easier any imo but thats just me

strong vessel May 3, 2021, 10:18 PM

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Path of Pain

molten aurora May 3, 2021, 10:18 PM

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Is pop actually faster on cp?

strong vessel May 3, 2021, 10:18 PM

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Yep

molten aurora May 3, 2021, 10:18 PM

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Interesting.

strong vessel May 3, 2021, 10:18 PM

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Kingsmoulds have less health

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And inventory drops are really never useful

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(Because ddark)

elfin vortex May 3, 2021, 10:19 PM

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Kingsmoulds are the guard dudes right?

strong vessel May 3, 2021, 10:19 PM

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Yeah, at the end

royal whale May 3, 2021, 10:19 PM

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so im gonna beat p5 that im stuck in then im gonna down patch because i don't think i will kinda come back to godhome

strong vessel May 3, 2021, 10:19 PM

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It's actually faster to do the ddark + sharp shadow + nail + 3 shade souls thing than to use flukenest

elfin vortex May 3, 2021, 10:19 PM

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strong vessel (Because ddark)

Is cyclone or ddark faster for that first drop?

strong vessel May 3, 2021, 10:19 PM

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royal whale so im gonna beat p5 that im stuck in then im gonna down patch because i don't th...

Downpatching doesn't remove current patch access

elfin vortex May 3, 2021, 10:20 PM

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Flukenest isnt used anymore i think

molten aurora May 3, 2021, 10:20 PM

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If you don't like godhome, 1221 will pretty much be the best patch for most cats.

strong vessel May 3, 2021, 10:20 PM

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elfin vortex Is cyclone or ddark faster for that first drop?

I'm pretty sure that ddark is always the fastest for any medium-length drop but I may remember wrong

elfin vortex May 3, 2021, 10:20 PM

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Lol godhomes amazing. I wasted so many hours there

strong vessel May 3, 2021, 10:21 PM

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(For short drops, it doesn't really do anything, and for long ones, obviously inventory dropping eventually accelerates you faster)

strong vessel May 3, 2021, 10:21 PM

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molten aurora If you don't like godhome, 1221 will pretty much be the best patch for most cats...

But regardless, downpatching doesn't remove your access to current patch

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You can have 1221, 1424, and 1432 all at the same time

molten aurora May 3, 2021, 10:21 PM

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I never said it did.

strong vessel May 3, 2021, 10:21 PM

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I know

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I'm just adding on to what you said

molten aurora May 3, 2021, 10:22 PM

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Ah okay, my bad then.

daring coral May 3, 2021, 10:22 PM

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whats 1424?

strong vessel May 3, 2021, 10:22 PM

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Patch before current patch

daring coral May 3, 2021, 10:22 PM

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what was it though?

strong vessel May 3, 2021, 10:23 PM

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I think the only differences are nail arts and godhome boss health

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Oh, and the Collector

daring coral May 3, 2021, 10:23 PM

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oh

strong vessel May 3, 2021, 10:23 PM

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(All of that is in godhome)

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Nail arts weren't affected by the nail binding, which is why 1424 is the best patch for all bindings pantheon speedruns

royal whale May 3, 2021, 10:26 PM

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i want ot get a nail upgrade but i feel like its a waste of time but in the same time its hard for me to complete the game without that one 250 geo upgrade

daring coral May 3, 2021, 10:27 PM

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what run are you doing?

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any%?

royal whale May 3, 2021, 10:28 PM

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any% NMG

daring coral May 3, 2021, 10:28 PM

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ah fair

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im so glad i started with AS

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bosses are so much easier

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aside from maybe hornet 2 i guess

elfin vortex May 3, 2021, 10:29 PM

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royal whale i want ot get a nail upgrade but i feel like its a waste of time but in the same...

From what I've read ur pretty new and not completely comfortable with stuff in it so get the nail upgrade

royal whale May 3, 2021, 10:29 PM

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i only done 2 succesful speed runs out of like 5 attempts or something

daring coral May 3, 2021, 10:30 PM

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why did you reset in the failed runs?

royal whale May 3, 2021, 10:30 PM

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i accualy forgot

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oh ye one of them i died twice before reaching watcher knights

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the other i died at mantis village because i rushed

daring coral May 3, 2021, 10:31 PM

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honestly id recommend not reseting if that happens

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not for your first few runs

elfin vortex May 3, 2021, 10:32 PM

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daring coral im so glad i started with AS

Ngl it was pretty stupid of me to start with 112 but its such a good cat imo

daring coral May 3, 2021, 10:32 PM

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jesus that seems so long to learn for a first run

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i endeed up taking a several week hiatus in the middle of learning As

royal whale May 3, 2021, 10:32 PM

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my personal best is 1 hour 24 mins by the way kinda proud of it

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got it on my second attempt

daring coral May 3, 2021, 10:33 PM

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itd take me years to learn 112

elfin vortex May 3, 2021, 10:33 PM

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I literally did a PoP run on the side just to get blue name cuz 112 was gonna take ages lol

royal whale May 3, 2021, 10:34 PM

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im speedrunning for blue name currently

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it was kinda for fun and kinda to see my potential

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now its for the role xD

elfin vortex May 3, 2021, 10:35 PM

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royal whale now its for the role xD

I would have waited but i needed quick access to other locked channels for the guide me and 2 others are making

royal whale May 3, 2021, 10:40 PM

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so you guys said the good patch for speedrunning is 1.2.2.1 right?

elfin vortex May 3, 2021, 10:41 PM

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For any% yh its the optimal patch

royal whale May 3, 2021, 10:41 PM

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ok gonna keep that in mind

subtle glade May 3, 2021, 10:43 PM

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1.2.2.1 for every NMG category, current path for either current patch or 112 runs, 1.0.2.8 for all glitches or NMMS

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1.2.2.1 is used because it's I think the only patch that lever skips work on (hitting levers through walls)

elfin vortex May 3, 2021, 10:45 PM

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Middair inv drops and elder baldur too

subtle glade May 3, 2021, 10:45 PM

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I was saying like why 1.2.2.1 and not 1.2.2.0 for example

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If we were to list every little thing it would take a while

haughty fossil May 3, 2021, 10:46 PM

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1221 was the only patch where city levers were broken

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they broke it for 1 patch then fixed them again for the next one

subtle glade May 3, 2021, 10:47 PM

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elfin vortex Middair inv drops and elder baldur too

Another thing is for example hornet 1 getting staggered in 5 hits instead of 6

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There are many minor changes

strong vessel May 3, 2021, 10:47 PM

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subtle glade 1.2.2.1 for every NMG category, current path for either current patch or 112 run...

Isn't 1.1.1.4 used for NMMS?

subtle glade May 3, 2021, 10:48 PM

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strong vessel May 3, 2021, 10:48 PM

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Hmm

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Might depend on the category then

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Or I just remember wrong

subtle glade May 3, 2021, 10:49 PM

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The only other version I see used is 1.1.1.8 for low% NMMS

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Lower down on the leaderboard you also get some other versions

strong vessel May 3, 2021, 10:50 PM

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I might just be dumb then

subtle glade May 3, 2021, 10:51 PM

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One person is using 1.1.1.4

strong vessel May 3, 2021, 10:54 PM

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I see

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It's a meme

elfin vortex May 3, 2021, 10:54 PM

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Theres always that one guy lol

strong vessel May 3, 2021, 10:54 PM

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It's a 100% run

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But they got 99%

daring coral May 3, 2021, 10:55 PM

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now thats a new level of alpha gamer

strong vessel May 3, 2021, 10:58 PM

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It's like how the last place any% nmg run is a 105% run

elfin vortex May 3, 2021, 10:59 PM

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At that point why not just submit a casual grass% or 112% lol

strong vessel May 3, 2021, 11:00 PM

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Because they weren't trying to miss something

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If you can't submit it to 106, then why not submit it to any%?

elfin vortex May 3, 2021, 11:02 PM

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Ohh lol I thought they did it just for the meme

daring coral May 3, 2021, 11:05 PM

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ok, so my question is, do i submit my run, or just do a second and hope its better

strong vessel May 3, 2021, 11:06 PM

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If it's valid, submit it

daring coral May 3, 2021, 11:06 PM

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yeah, but like effort

strong vessel May 3, 2021, 11:07 PM

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Don't worry about it for your first run

daring coral May 3, 2021, 11:07 PM

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and if im doing a second soon anyway i could just save myself the trouble of submiting it, and the mods the trouble of validating it

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i guess

haughty fossil May 3, 2021, 11:07 PM

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whatever you want tamershrug

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mods will only watch the most recent run you've submitted if you have multiple submitted, if you want to go that route and use srcom as a full history of every pb

lusty scroll May 3, 2021, 11:08 PM

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i submitted my first sub hour and my next goal is sub 45, just submit what you're happy to submit!

olive smelt May 4, 2021, 12:51 AM

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i just pb’d by almost 30minutes in any%😭😭😭

jagged vault May 4, 2021, 1:04 AM

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shroompog

knotty vigil May 4, 2021, 1:55 AM

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I have this question, if i wanna submit a run, but it's in my twitch VOD, how do i submit it ? just download the whole vod and cut out the part of the run ?

steady lynx May 4, 2021, 1:57 AM

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highlight

normal aspen May 4, 2021, 1:57 AM

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you can highlight the run on twitch then link the highlight

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if you want it on yt you can highlight it then export the highlight to yt

knotty vigil May 4, 2021, 1:57 AM

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What if the run and the part where i show the menu are in 2 different part of the stream though

normal aspen May 4, 2021, 1:58 AM

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then thats invalid

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you cant have the run be segmented

knotty vigil May 4, 2021, 1:59 AM

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like, the part where i show the menu and the actual run were like 20 minutes apart

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i was running path of pain so whenever i fail at the beginning, i keep going in and out to reset

normal aspen May 4, 2021, 2:00 AM

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for pop and other ils u can just quit to menu after the successful run

knotty vigil May 4, 2021, 2:06 AM

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how long do i have to show the menu for it to be a valid run

normal aspen May 4, 2021, 2:07 AM

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not that liong

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just need to be able to see patch number and no mods

knotty vigil May 4, 2021, 2:08 AM

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the only mod i got is modding API, is the run still valid ?

normal aspen May 4, 2021, 2:08 AM

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no

knotty vigil May 4, 2021, 2:08 AM

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oh, alright

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so i cant have any mod at all ? i had modinstaller installed so there's the modding API, but no other mod was on

normal aspen May 4, 2021, 2:09 AM

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no it must be on a fully vanilla installation

knotty vigil May 4, 2021, 2:09 AM

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aaaah, i see, thank you for the explanation

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oh and one more thing, if i uninstall the game and install it again, the mod installer should be gone right ?

normal aspen May 4, 2021, 2:12 AM

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think so? but you can just make a 2nd install for vanilla

undone widget May 4, 2021, 2:38 AM

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subtle glade The only other version I see used is 1.1.1.8 for low% NMMS

they where only bounching 1 time. and i got scared it was " making the fight easier"

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so my run wolde be denied

lusty scroll May 4, 2021, 2:55 AM

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does anyone have a recommended fps limit for the game (in both a speedrun context and regular play)?

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mine runs at stupidly high framerates and my gpu just doesnt need to be this hot or loud

normal aspen May 4, 2021, 2:56 AM

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200-300 is good, 250 is really common

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multiple of physics framerate (50) is nice

lusty scroll May 4, 2021, 2:56 AM

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ok, mine can handle 300 easily and im on a 60hz monitor so ill go with that

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like holy shit you dont need 700 fps why is it uncapped LMAO

knotty vigil May 4, 2021, 3:00 AM

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a part of my livesplit got glitched like this

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what caused this

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and my run gonna be invalid because of this right ?

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it kinda fixed itself at the end, but i think my run is still invalid because the mod gonna think that i can edit the number on the timer

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sometimes my livesplit willl randomly lose a part of the display

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what caused this ?

true palm May 4, 2021, 3:12 AM

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idr what causes it but reloading the layout fixes it

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i've noticed it happening before when i move livesplit to a different monitor

knotty vigil May 4, 2021, 3:47 AM

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ok now im a true idiot... the run is invalid if the audio for the game is muted right ?

hearty adder May 4, 2021, 3:53 AM

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The music doesn't need to be on, but game audio should be on

normal aspen May 4, 2021, 3:53 AM

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all of thjjese questions can also be answered by reading the rules on src

fair island May 4, 2021, 7:15 AM

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?srpsa

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Rip dyno

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Reminder: This category is intended for competitive speedrunning discussion. Questions about achievements should be directed to #hk-help.
Guide for the 5hr speedrunning achievement: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1861523602

fading moon May 4, 2021, 9:07 AM

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Hey, i wanted to downpatch to 1.2.2.1 but when i start a world the fps is capped at 28. This does not happen in the menu

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I would appreciate any kind of help 🙂

haughty fossil May 4, 2021, 9:10 AM

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do you have vsync or the fps cap on in options?

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1221 generally runs much worse than 1432 in the first place but if there's an artificial cap then its good to check

polar jay May 4, 2021, 9:18 AM

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Im back i forgot if you need the lantern to get to the dreamer in the spider area i hate it so im not going to remember the name

jagged vault May 4, 2021, 9:20 AM

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You don’t need the lantern for deepnest

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It’s fully doable in the dark if you learn the movement

sweet mulch May 4, 2021, 9:31 AM

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the movement is surprisingly easy to learn

true palm May 4, 2021, 9:44 AM

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darknest is pretty chill to learn with debug mod, so you can turn lantern on and off. Lantern is only required for a toll in cpeak and no eyes (idr if galien is dark or not) for most categories. Most categories get lantern though to access Crystal Peak

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but beating the game without lanterns pretty easy, All Skills does it

subtle glade May 4, 2021, 9:46 AM

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Help, I can't change the fullscreen in options

verbal stag May 4, 2021, 9:46 AM

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alt+enter should still work

subtle glade May 4, 2021, 9:47 AM

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Thanks

knotty vigil May 4, 2021, 9:48 AM

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What is the hardest part in the game

subtle glade May 4, 2021, 9:48 AM

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For any%? Probably watcher knights

knotty vigil May 4, 2021, 9:49 AM

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Hmm ok ty

fair island May 4, 2021, 9:51 AM

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knotty vigil What is the hardest part in the game

Kings pass

fading moon May 4, 2021, 9:54 AM

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haughty fossil do you have vsync or the fps cap on in options?

Vsync is off and i have particle quality on low

haughty fossil May 4, 2021, 9:55 AM

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what's your fps like on current patch? if your pc isn't amazing then 1221 may just run that poorly

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for comparison i average around 180 on cp, but only 60 on 1221

fading moon May 4, 2021, 9:56 AM

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On the current patch i have absolutely no problems, dont remember exact fps

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I will check in a few mins the exact fps when i am at my pc

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I have a gtx 960 and a ryzen 5 5600x cpu

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If that helps you get an idea

haughty fossil May 4, 2021, 9:57 AM

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yeah that shouldn't have any problems think

fading moon May 4, 2021, 9:59 AM

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Well what could the problem be? Also when i go in a new save, after the cinematic there is a small flash and then the fps drops to 1, then it starts going up but caps at 28

fading moon May 4, 2021, 10:20 AM

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haughty fossil what's your fps like on current patch? if your pc isn't amazing then 1221 may ju...

on the current patch i have 380-400 fps

leaden python May 4, 2021, 10:20 AM

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Check if the game has high cpu/gpu usage

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Also maybe clear the registry

fading moon May 4, 2021, 10:21 AM

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did that too and still had problems

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there was no high cpu usage ill see how the gpu usage is in a bit

leaden python May 4, 2021, 10:22 AM

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28 is just such a specific number

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Is there anything else suspicious in the settings? Like fps cap option, or maybe play with resolution/toggling vsync on/off to see if anything happens

fading moon May 4, 2021, 10:24 AM

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i was redoing the downpatch rn to see if maybe it didnt download properly

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first i did it with steam console now im doin it with depot downloader

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doing it with depot downloader solved it for some reason

haughty fossil May 4, 2021, 11:02 AM

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strange, maybe the original downpatch wasn't fully installed? think

royal whale May 4, 2021, 11:06 AM

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are these good splits?

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do i add/remove ones?

haughty fossil May 4, 2021, 11:08 AM

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may i ask why you're using 1.4.2.4? you would be able to submit to the current patch boards if you used 1.4.3.2 and there should be no functional difference

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otherwise the splits look good, if you do QG most people split on Queen's Gardens (Area) but that is not necessary (alternative for deepnest route is Deepnest Spa (Area))

royal whale May 4, 2021, 11:09 AM

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i go from the way that you get spoor shroom

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i tried the queens garden its almost impossible i can't do that acid dash

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current patch is 1.4.3.2 right?

haughty fossil May 4, 2021, 11:12 AM

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correct

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if you're on cp you can also pick up spore shroom since it actually destroys thk to the point where equipping it over shaman stone is faster by about 20s

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meaning you don't even lose time to qg route theoretically 😎

royal whale May 4, 2021, 11:13 AM

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haughty fossil if you're on cp you can also pick up spore shroom since it actually destroys thk...

wait what how

haughty fossil May 4, 2021, 11:13 AM

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thk takes loads of damage to spore shroom clouds

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combine that w/ the fact that your spore shroom charge immediately refreshes when you take damage and you can do a lot of damage quite quickly vesselsip

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just remember the final hit has to be a nail swing/spell

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spore shroom also fully damages thk during their self stab phase, where normal attacks only do 1 damage

royal whale May 4, 2021, 11:14 AM

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oh i didnt know you only do 1 damage when he stabs himself

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i go full berserk nail nail spell nail spell on him in that form

slim geyser May 4, 2021, 11:15 AM

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isn't sporeshroom 1 damage per tick anyway?

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and that's why it works?

haughty fossil May 4, 2021, 11:15 AM

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correct sabi

slim geyser May 4, 2021, 11:15 AM

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cool

haughty fossil May 4, 2021, 11:15 AM

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it just hits THK multiple times per tick for whatever reason

slim geyser May 4, 2021, 11:15 AM

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WutDoge

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how much can 1 sporeshroom cast do?

haughty fossil May 4, 2021, 11:16 AM

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so nice of tc to add an alternative when they decided to make QG impossible

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i think it's around 120-150? not entirely sure

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it's very incosnsistent and weird

slim geyser May 4, 2021, 11:16 AM

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every time i hear about this strat i get more curious about it

haughty fossil May 4, 2021, 11:16 AM

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it also continues to damage them when they exit the cloud though, whether that's at a reduced rate i'm not entirely sure

slim geyser May 4, 2021, 11:17 AM

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but i've never looked up a video on it and i'm not going to start now FeelsOkayMan

haughty fossil May 4, 2021, 11:17 AM

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#any-percent-nmg message

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here's a video on it FeelsOkayMan

slim geyser May 4, 2021, 11:18 AM

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damn jamie ur insane

haughty fossil May 4, 2021, 11:18 AM

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(invuln and inf soul on for testing, i'll get a recording of an actual fight to you when i'm actually back doing any% feelspkman )

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i think onmiwe had some nice fights highlighted on his channel maybe?

slim geyser May 4, 2021, 11:19 AM

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140 damage first cast...

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AbyssShriekShroom

haughty fossil May 4, 2021, 11:23 AM

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we decided it probably had something to do with how much THK moved in the cloud, but i couldn't find anything in the code and i wasn't going to get a PhD in FSM deciphering to figure that out 🥴

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it also appears to freeze momentarily when THK parries, but only for a couple ticks

native cypress May 4, 2021, 12:04 PM

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is there a way to move the "save file slot" your saves are in ?

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my main playthrough is on slot 1 and i kinda want that slot for the speedrun now

digital jewel May 4, 2021, 12:08 PM

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;saves

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?saves

sick ravenBOT May 4, 2021, 12:08 PM

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Saves

Windows File Paths: (Assumes Default Steam Install Path, Adjust accordingly for DRM Free or Non-Standard Steam Path)

Game Files: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Hollow Knight\```
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Mac File Paths:
```Save Files: ~/Library/Application Support/unity.Team Cherry.Hollow Knight/
Game Files: ~/Library/Application Support/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/hollow_knight.app/```
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Linux File Paths:
```Save Files: ~/.config/unity3d/Team Cherry/Hollow Knight/
Game Files: ~/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/```

digital jewel May 4, 2021, 12:08 PM

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the save files are named user1.dat through user4.dat

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so you can just change the name to change which slot it's in

native cypress May 4, 2021, 12:14 PM

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nice thanks

subtle glade May 4, 2021, 1:49 PM

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any% is the shortest, but all skills is easier, because you get more gear for bosses

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But the difference is not that big, if you follow fireb0rn's guide you should be fine

ebon nexus May 4, 2021, 1:55 PM

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bro fireball skips r so easy
I was trying to do it for like 30 minutes
and then I noticed I was not using quick cast
omg

royal whale May 4, 2021, 2:02 PM

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cool but not that cool lol

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i died twice at uumuu and like 3 times at hollow knight and like 8 times at watcher knights

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how to kill vengfly king without him screaming i allways attack then vengeful spirit but it goes under him

subtle glade May 4, 2021, 2:17 PM

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ebon nexus bro fireball skips r so easy I was trying to do it for like 30 minutes and then ...

lol

royal whale May 4, 2021, 2:19 PM

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oh wait i don't use quickcast either

subtle glade May 4, 2021, 2:22 PM

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This is the basic idea for vengefly king

subtle glade May 4, 2021, 2:25 PM

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royal whale oh wait i don't use quickcast either

The timing is pretty tight, so quickcast is a requirement

mossy sapphire May 4, 2021, 2:27 PM

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royal whale how to kill vengfly king without him screaming i allways attack then vengeful sp...

kill false knight instead

subtle glade May 4, 2021, 2:27 PM

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Could you send us a clip? It will be easier to judge what you're doing wrong

digital jewel May 4, 2021, 2:30 PM

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mossy sapphire kill false knight instead

killing false knight is not the alternative to vengefly king

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false knight is really slow

subtle glade May 4, 2021, 2:31 PM

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Alternative to vengefly is mossy bois right?

digital jewel May 4, 2021, 2:31 PM

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mossy bois?

subtle glade May 4, 2021, 2:31 PM

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moss knights

digital jewel May 4, 2021, 2:31 PM

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moss knights is a bit overkill

haughty fossil May 4, 2021, 2:31 PM

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alt. to vk can be fungal rocks on cp feelspkman

digital jewel May 4, 2021, 2:32 PM

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but yeah that'd be better than false knight

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the alternative to get these rocks after the last fireball skip

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and then these rocks on the way to mantis claw

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for cp just the fungal rocks is probably fine

subtle glade May 4, 2021, 2:35 PM

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Before I was good at vengefly king I used this damage tank method

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Some of the geo will end up on the floor so it will be quite a bit slower, but imo it's a good alternative for beginners

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Unless you're not good at hornet, then damage tanking might not be the best idea

elfin vortex May 4, 2021, 2:55 PM

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subtle glade Before I was good at vengefly king I used this damage tank method

How tf do you avoid that from happening. Is it bad fb timing or something? I keep doing that which I would like to change tbh

simple goblet May 4, 2021, 3:06 PM

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Yea I don't try to do that but it just happens

simple goblet May 4, 2021, 3:15 PM

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haughty fossil if you're on cp you can also pick up spore shroom since it actually destroys thk...

are they planning on fixxing that on the new patch, also what happens to old current patch runs when the new patch comes out

kind flume May 4, 2021, 3:17 PM

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Yeah, that's getting patched out. We're not entirely decided what happens yet, it might have to wait until the patch is officially out and we know exactly what the differences are

deep kernel May 4, 2021, 3:17 PM

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how horrible is a 9:15 for a first 4ms run?

jagged vault May 4, 2021, 3:18 PM

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not horrible at all!

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just finishing a run is great

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the way i see runs is that any run that you've put effort into is great

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skurryLove

deep kernel May 4, 2021, 3:20 PM

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grublove

kind flume May 4, 2021, 3:20 PM

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4ms peepoArrive

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9:15 is great

simple goblet May 4, 2021, 3:20 PM

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kind flume Yeah, that's getting patched out. We're not entirely decided what happens yet, i...

do you know how its getting patched

kind flume May 4, 2021, 3:21 PM

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what do you mean how?

simple goblet May 4, 2021, 3:21 PM

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like does it tick slower, or do less damage?

kind flume May 4, 2021, 3:22 PM

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it's a bug that only works on THK, so probably they'll fix that interaction without changing spore shroom for other things

simple goblet May 4, 2021, 3:22 PM

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ok

haughty fossil May 4, 2021, 3:25 PM

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re: cp boards; we have no inclination to wipe cp board / merge them to main boards when 1.5 comes out. More likely we'll change the classification to 1.4+, since unless tc really mess up 1.4.3.2 will be the optimal patch for those categories anyway

kind flume May 4, 2021, 3:26 PM

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but then you'll have to downpatch for both categories, which is a bit sad

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"have to"

haughty fossil May 4, 2021, 3:26 PM

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fortunately downpatching to 1.4.3.2 is a steam beta option shroompog

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~~now let us downpatch to 1221 as a steam beta option tc~~

subtle glade May 4, 2021, 3:50 PM

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elfin vortex How tf do you avoid that from happening. Is it bad fb timing or something? I kee...

Sorry for the late reply, but it means you either start the fight too close to the vengefly or you're too slow

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Maybe you are missing nail cancels?

quiet saddle May 4, 2021, 5:06 PM

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Nail fireball can be a bit hard for newer players; this is the damage tank setup I use for V. King. It's super easy.

https://clips.twitch.tv/GrotesqueCrispyYakinikuJebaited-PndOj5IdNvkTYyjP

Twitch

kishoto - noob VK kill

Watch kishoto's clip titled "noob VK kill"

▶ Play video

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The initial nail -> fireball isn't tight at all. So it's just nail -> mash quick cast -> tank -> nail after

daring coral May 4, 2021, 5:17 PM

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im not sure if this is the place to ask but im trying to upload my run to youtube for verification purposes

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it took about 16 hours becase shitty internet, now it tells me it didnt process it because it was over 15 minutes and i wasnt verified when i did it

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i apparently need to upload it again? is there any way round this?

digital jewel May 4, 2021, 5:23 PM

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I don't think there is

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you should try to reduce the file size if it's taking 16 hours to upload

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right click the file and go to properties, then details

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show me this bit

daring coral May 4, 2021, 5:26 PM

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should there be other stuff there?

quiet saddle May 4, 2021, 5:26 PM

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Whats the file size on that?

daring coral May 4, 2021, 5:27 PM

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10.5Gb

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holy heck

digital jewel May 4, 2021, 5:28 PM

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hmm

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that's gigantic

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no wonder it took so long

daring coral May 4, 2021, 5:29 PM

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have i commited a stupid?

digital jewel May 4, 2021, 5:29 PM

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your recording settings must be absurd

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but you can just reencode the video for now

daring coral May 4, 2021, 5:29 PM

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i just used base obs

digital jewel May 4, 2021, 5:29 PM

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use a program like handbrake

daring coral May 4, 2021, 5:30 PM

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i assume i can just find that online?

digital jewel May 4, 2021, 5:30 PM

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yeah it's free

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we can help you fix your obs settings as well

daring coral May 4, 2021, 5:31 PM

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yeah i should probably do that

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what should i do once the file is in handbrake?

haughty fossil May 4, 2021, 5:35 PM

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the fast 720p30 preset should be fine

digital jewel May 4, 2021, 5:36 PM

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you can always lower the settings again if the file ends up too big still

daring coral May 4, 2021, 5:36 PM

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ok thanks

haughty fossil May 4, 2021, 5:37 PM

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also to upload videos longer than 15 minutes on youtube you need to verif. your google account with a phone number

daring coral May 4, 2021, 5:38 PM

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yeah i did that

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but only after id already uploaded it

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because stupid

junior mortar May 4, 2021, 5:47 PM

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newb question out of curiosity, unless I am misunderstanding the rules in 112% APB, if that includes P5 which is not part of the actually 112% (only up to P4 counts as a percentage point) is there not categories for 112% without P5? or do runners just do 106% if they want to avoid P5

haughty fossil May 4, 2021, 5:48 PM

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there is pure 112 but not enough people run it to have a leaderboard

junior mortar May 4, 2021, 5:48 PM

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haughty fossil there is pure 112 but not enough people run it to have a leaderboard

ahh cool thanks

haughty fossil May 4, 2021, 5:48 PM

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you're right with your final statement there

daring coral May 4, 2021, 5:49 PM

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tbf if i was going to do a 112 and skip the games final climactic challenge id probably feel like id cheated it a bit

haughty fossil May 4, 2021, 5:50 PM

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tamershrug the main drawback of 112 is doing p1-4, then doing basically the same thing again in p5

junior mortar May 4, 2021, 5:50 PM

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haha fair enough I guess if your at the point your speed running any of the Pantheon you are pretty good at P5 at taht point

digital jewel May 4, 2021, 5:51 PM

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same logic why nightmare king grimm and radiance are required in 106%

junior mortar May 4, 2021, 5:52 PM

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digital jewel same logic why nightmare king grimm and radiance are required in 106%

good point

daring coral May 4, 2021, 5:53 PM

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god, banishing really would be anticlimactic

junior mortar May 4, 2021, 5:54 PM

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I wonder how much time save it would actually be some people can probably kill LKG almost as fast as doing the banishment

daring coral May 4, 2021, 5:55 PM

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god damn people are impressive and maybe scary

digital jewel May 4, 2021, 5:55 PM

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doing banishment saves having to collect 2 of the final tier of grimmkin

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as well as skipping nkg

daring coral May 4, 2021, 5:56 PM

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oh right yeah i forgot you only need brumms flame

daring coral May 4, 2021, 6:21 PM

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ok thanks, guys, this new file version has an actuall reasonable upload time

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thanks for help

elfin vortex May 4, 2021, 6:31 PM

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subtle glade Maybe you are missing nail cancels?

Probs. I'll work on them but its honestly likely positioning as u said

knotty vigil May 4, 2021, 6:34 PM

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where is this funny picture with howwow knyght

fair island May 4, 2021, 6:35 PM

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not here

quiet saddle May 4, 2021, 6:37 PM

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elfin vortex Probs. I'll work on them but its honestly likely positioning as u said

Do you use a visual cue?

elfin vortex May 4, 2021, 6:38 PM

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Kinda. I get it half of the time. I use the rocks

next gorge May 4, 2021, 6:38 PM

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guys this is kinda to do with speedrunning, but when I get vengeful and I wake up in the baldur room sometimes it takes minutes for me to "wake up"

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is this some sort of glitch

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or maybe just my pc

quiet saddle May 4, 2021, 6:38 PM

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next gorge guys this is kinda to do with speedrunning, but when I get vengeful and I wake u...

Do you mean literal minutes?

next gorge May 4, 2021, 6:38 PM

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literal minutes

quiet saddle May 4, 2021, 6:39 PM

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Something's wrong then. Are you pressing inputs during this time?

digital jewel May 4, 2021, 6:39 PM

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you're using keyboard?

next gorge May 4, 2021, 6:39 PM

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napping for a bit too long

quiet saddle May 4, 2021, 6:39 PM

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Inputs help you wake up earlier; Idk if no inputs just leaves you sleeping tho. I doubt it does.

next gorge May 4, 2021, 6:39 PM

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yh

next gorge May 4, 2021, 6:39 PM

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quiet saddle Something's wrong then. Are you pressing inputs during this time?

yep

digital jewel May 4, 2021, 6:39 PM

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press the default binds for movement

next gorge May 4, 2021, 6:39 PM

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doing that

digital jewel May 4, 2021, 6:39 PM

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rather than the binds you have set

next gorge May 4, 2021, 6:39 PM

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OMG WTF

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arrow keys

digital jewel May 4, 2021, 6:40 PM

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yep

next gorge May 4, 2021, 6:40 PM

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...

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now that pisses me off

quiet saddle May 4, 2021, 6:40 PM

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Lmfao

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That's funny

next gorge May 4, 2021, 6:40 PM

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had a rly good crossroads

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oh ffs

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dude

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beat my pb on the runnnnnn

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well t

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y

digital jewel May 4, 2021, 6:40 PM

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it's a really weird thing

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no idea why

next gorge May 4, 2021, 6:40 PM

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me neither

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but ty

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that will save me lots of pain

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if only I asked a couple misn ago

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🤦‍♂️

quiet saddle May 4, 2021, 6:43 PM

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No big deal; that's near the start of your run anyway

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You didn't lose anything too great

daring coral May 4, 2021, 8:07 PM

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ok ive finaly managed to submit my run

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hardest part by far

elfin vortex May 4, 2021, 8:19 PM

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God im scared to think how long uploading my eventual 112 run to yt will take. My internets meh

daring coral May 4, 2021, 8:24 PM

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oof

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just mail it to google

subtle glade May 4, 2021, 8:33 PM

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Do you guys have any tips on luring uumuu for the second cycle? It always ends up too far to the side for me

digital jewel May 4, 2021, 8:34 PM

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after the first attack lure uumuu to the opposite side of the middle platform to where it is

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when uumuu starts 2nd attack drop down to the lower platform and charge cdash

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then you can instantly release if it's the following attack, or hold if it's the area attack

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either way you end up on the opposite side lower platform at the end of the 2nd attack

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then you may need to either stand on the middle platform or walljump for a little bit off the side of the platform in order to get uumuu at a height you like

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while waiting for quirrel

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the numbers are where you want to be at the end of each attack

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when you do this uumuu ends up in the middle of the middle platform again, and low enough to where the boss will stay stuck

subtle glade May 4, 2021, 9:47 PM

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I was watching anime with friends so I couldn't reply, but thanks a lot Xero, I'll try that out later

quiet saddle May 4, 2021, 11:55 PM

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If you find it hard, watch a fireb0rn or pest WR attempt

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You can't copy the 2 cycle damage probably, but the bait they use for it is easily copyable

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And then you just keep inverting Xero's positioning diagram for more cycles

verbal oar May 5, 2021, 12:06 AM

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Just finished my first full cp run! I’m pretty happy wth how it went

daring coral May 5, 2021, 12:11 AM

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fuck

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i just lost a great run to deepnest

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i died in the second deepnest dark room

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then again to the devout in beasts den because i had no soul and like an idiot i hadnt benched so i died again on my way back before i got the shade so now i cant pay for the stag so runs dead

daring coral May 5, 2021, 12:14 AM

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daring coral i just lost a great run to deepnest

i feel the need to qualify "great" as better than my first ever run

quiet saddle May 5, 2021, 12:21 AM

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What category?

daring coral May 5, 2021, 12:23 AM

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AS

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i was on pace for a 17 minute pb if i made no further timesave which i definetly could have

true palm May 5, 2021, 12:50 AM

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daring coral then again to the devout in beasts den because i had no soul and like an idiot i...

very sad and unfortunate, though i think if you kill the 3 main devouts, kill 2 devouts on the way out, and grab the rocks in den you can afford the toll. obviously not ideal in anyway shape or form, but if you have that much timesave you could still potentially pb in the future if you do that

daring coral May 5, 2021, 12:54 AM

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ill consider it in future, thanks

lusty scroll May 5, 2021, 1:10 AM

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my enemy spawns have gone odd, the aspids in aspid room spawn at differnt times etc is there any reason why?

hearty adder May 5, 2021, 1:25 AM

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Their spawns just desync sometimes

small bridge May 5, 2021, 1:32 AM

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any tips for getting double spike kill?

fallen forum May 5, 2021, 1:53 AM

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if youre on current patch then its relatively free, soif youre having trouble then id just suggest watching someone else do it, but if its 1221 then this video is pretty helpful https://youtu.be/Ya96rJqDEIo

YouTube

RhinoFeeder

Hollow Knight Aspid Arena - Double Spike Kill setup for 1.2.2.1

A consistent setup I use for getting double-spike on patch 1.2.2.1

RhinoFeeder's Social Media:
https://discord.gg/mrzNnq6
https://www.twitch.tv/rhinofeeder
https://twitter.com/rhinofeeder

▶ Play video

wheat orbit May 5, 2021, 1:55 AM

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My watcher knights are spawning in the wrong order, how do I make them stop that?

stuck raptor May 5, 2021, 1:58 AM

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Did you break the chandelier?

wheat orbit May 5, 2021, 1:59 AM

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oh

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now I did, thanks

slow dust May 5, 2021, 3:07 AM

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THAT Is AMAZING

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ima try that

steady lagoon May 5, 2021, 3:43 AM

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I actually came up with the chandelier thing so ty

true palm May 5, 2021, 4:33 AM

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top platform for aspid spike double kill has an rng chance to work even if you're slow, but bottom platform tends to be more consistent overall for a lot of people once you have it down

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ley-RlVA4HE

YouTube

Ax2u

consistent aspid arena double spike kill explanation (1.2.2.1)

shoutouts to fire, pest, tombo and others for helping figure this one out

▶ Play video

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because its more direct you also have time to pick up geo, and it translates to the 1432 kill as well, but either method is valid

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the most important thing to get it consistent in all methods is where the spike lands

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if the spike lands there you're doing it right

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if it doesnt you were too slow

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double spike kill isnt required, and theres the alternative pogo method that loses a second or two

quiet saddle May 5, 2021, 7:06 AM

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Why did you give up?

verbal stag May 5, 2021, 8:27 AM

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the loadless timer has to be visible the whole time

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if its not then your run will be timed rta

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yeah that will be rta

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(also in the future make sure to check the src rules for questions like this, you'll usually find the answer there)

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yea

subtle glade May 5, 2021, 12:40 PM

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Who's petra? I saw Ax's any% PB and they were talking that he should get geo from Petra

kind flume May 5, 2021, 12:40 PM

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It's the flying mantises in Queens Garden

subtle glade May 5, 2021, 12:41 PM

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Is it a name for all of them or is it a specific one

kind flume May 5, 2021, 12:42 PM

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It's the official enemy name :)

subtle glade May 5, 2021, 12:42 PM

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Oh ok lol

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And I wanted to ask for a while, which enemies in the game are named by the speedrunning community? I only know of Eric

normal aspen May 5, 2021, 12:43 PM

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There's also Jennifer which is the leaping husk before gruz mother

subtle glade May 5, 2021, 12:44 PM

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Is he named for being annoying, or for giving geo?

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Or she idk

normal aspen May 5, 2021, 12:44 PM

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someone just started calling her jennifer and now shes jennefer

kind flume May 5, 2021, 12:44 PM

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Most bugs are "it"

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I'd assume

normal aspen May 5, 2021, 12:44 PM

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often used as "oh im short on geo guess ive gotta kill jennifer"

subtle glade May 5, 2021, 12:45 PM

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I was referring to the name Jennifer, I didn't remember if that was a male or female name

kind flume May 5, 2021, 12:45 PM

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Oh, usually female

mossy sapphire May 5, 2021, 12:46 PM

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myla grublove

normal aspen May 5, 2021, 12:47 PM

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myla echprime

icy zenith May 5, 2021, 12:47 PM

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Myla mylajoy

mossy sapphire May 5, 2021, 12:49 PM

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elderbug remains the best npc

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elderbug

normal aspen May 5, 2021, 12:50 PM

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nah its my boi Poggy

mossy sapphire May 5, 2021, 12:50 PM

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who is poggy

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bugelder

haughty fossil May 5, 2021, 12:50 PM

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poggy thorax shroompog

normal aspen May 5, 2021, 12:50 PM

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wtf Poggy slanderr

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haughty fossil May 5, 2021, 12:51 PM

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the absolute beast

normal aspen May 5, 2021, 12:51 PM

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also shoutouts to ~~steponme~~ emilitia

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also top tier npc

mossy sapphire May 5, 2021, 12:52 PM

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oh yes

analog monolith May 5, 2021, 12:52 PM

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i only know of jennifer's name bc everyone in rando calls it jennifer totem

mossy sapphire May 5, 2021, 12:52 PM

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i never knew her name sadcowgrub

mossy sapphire May 5, 2021, 12:52 PM

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normal aspen also shoutouts to ~~steponme~~ emilitia

who is she 👀

normal aspen May 5, 2021, 12:53 PM

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mossy sapphire May 5, 2021, 12:53 PM

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oh yees

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she has a funny laugh

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and treats you badly

quiet saddle May 5, 2021, 12:53 PM

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kind flume Most bugs are "it"

Idk about that. A lot of the named bugs we've met have been gendered.

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By and large, most of the NPCs have genders.

normal aspen May 5, 2021, 12:54 PM

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vessels are it as a hard rule

kind flume May 5, 2021, 12:54 PM

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Most bugs aren't named though ;)

subtle glade May 5, 2021, 12:54 PM

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quiet saddle May 5, 2021, 12:54 PM

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Yea, vessels are canonically genderless

normal aspen May 5, 2021, 12:54 PM

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they / it is good for the non named bugs since they dont have a coinfirmed gender

mossy sapphire May 5, 2021, 12:55 PM

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nooooooo

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let nailsmith live

normal aspen May 5, 2021, 12:55 PM

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jennifer is named tho 😤

quiet saddle May 5, 2021, 12:55 PM

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I think it's up to our preference at that point, if we don't know.

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I def call most of em "it" fwiw

mossy sapphire May 5, 2021, 12:55 PM

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grubs names are the best thing

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still waiting for a mod that officially names them grubhappy

subtle glade May 5, 2021, 12:56 PM

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Are skurry's names official speedrunning community names?

mossy sapphire May 5, 2021, 12:56 PM

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it seems

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i see them on fireb0rn's streams

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not sure but on blue's too

subtle glade May 5, 2021, 12:57 PM

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Yea, fire took them for his splits, idk if anyone else used them

kind flume May 5, 2021, 12:57 PM

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Nah, usually grubs are identified by location

subtle glade May 5, 2021, 12:58 PM

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Gosh, wherever could Walter Ways be

digital jewel May 5, 2021, 1:12 PM

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I think naming the grubs is just something from their community

normal aspen May 5, 2021, 1:13 PM

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yeah thats just a thing skurry did for a video

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/ has become a bit of a 112 meme ig

leaden python May 5, 2021, 1:22 PM

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I was the first runner to name grubs, but I named them after other runners

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and then evil capitalists started selling their grub splits for channel points 😔

normal aspen May 5, 2021, 1:35 PM

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do u still have ur og runner grubs list?

leaden python May 5, 2021, 2:04 PM

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yeah I still have splits :)

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And I'm still taking suggestions

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there is one caveat that the grub #6 will always be called 56, so it becomes a bit 🥴 when the route changes

normal aspen May 5, 2021, 2:15 PM

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what nes are taken / left etc

leaden python May 5, 2021, 2:22 PM

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most of the left actually, I think I only named 10 or so, and 3 grubs after collector kinda named collectively. So like around 30 left.

📎 106_splits_new.lss

normal aspen May 5, 2021, 2:26 PM

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Fire's for sure objectively correct

leaden python May 5, 2021, 2:27 PM

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yeah that one and Ax were like no-brainer

normal aspen May 5, 2021, 2:28 PM

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Modlogethys being in darknest also is good

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Could put Moglar as the one in tear room?

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Paum as the one near White Lady? (Mr Tree and sentient tree)

jagged vault May 5, 2021, 2:43 PM

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No grubs in blue lake grubsad

haughty fossil May 5, 2021, 2:45 PM

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locus = mimic grub

normal aspen May 5, 2021, 2:46 PM

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He s already for one so I assume that's his

haughty fossil May 5, 2021, 2:46 PM

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oh looking at the splits file would help that huh

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mobile grubsad

normal aspen May 5, 2021, 2:49 PM

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Real question is what is Jamie grub

haughty fossil May 5, 2021, 2:49 PM

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no u

normal aspen May 5, 2021, 2:51 PM

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Also a valid question

raven holly May 5, 2021, 3:05 PM

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CollieMonster can be the grub in QG that you have to break the glass to get to above the petra room that is cursed without wings. Very funny moments of her taking 5+ minutes of bonking into the thorns to get to it omegamarmu

subtle glade May 5, 2021, 3:26 PM

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Damn I'm trash at watchers

last yoke May 5, 2021, 3:27 PM

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i feel you

subtle glade May 5, 2021, 3:28 PM

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I used to be pretty good, then I practised uumuu for the next 3 days, and now I forgot everything I learnt about watchers

snow dome May 5, 2021, 3:31 PM

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subtle glade Damn I'm trash at watchers

~ Literally every HK speedrunner

subtle glade May 5, 2021, 3:35 PM

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Of course I beat them the first time after I write that

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I have just realised that in low% you do watchers without shaman's or dash, mad respect

vague jolt May 5, 2021, 3:49 PM

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normal aspen Also a valid question

ins0mnia grub should be this one

digital jewel May 5, 2021, 3:51 PM

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ax2uHmm

steady lynx May 5, 2021, 3:53 PM

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Which one is Xero grub?

snow dome May 5, 2021, 3:58 PM

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The D-Dark Grub is the one closest to Xero, right?

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That one or the one just before D-Dark on the All Skills/1xx routes

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Just getting lumped in with the character

hallow orchid May 5, 2021, 3:59 PM

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The Grub you get instead of Xero's essence is probably the Xero grub

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But yeah idk in vanilla ddark and crypts are both pretty close

vague jolt May 5, 2021, 3:59 PM

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hallow orchid The Grub you get instead of Xero's essence is probably the Xero grub

The mathulu grub can be all of them

true palm May 5, 2021, 4:13 PM

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subtle glade I have just realised that in low% you do watchers without shaman's or dash, mad ...

low% watchers is the hardest part about the category. One of the hardest bossfights of any main category. It just takes a lot of practice. The main thing is that without shamans, its almost impossible to fireball above the roll line and still hit watchers. As long as you have good fundamentals in the fight, no dash doesnt make a huge difference tbh. Sound cues are very important.

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You can still get triples without shamans or dash pretty easily so that speeds up the fight pretty drastically.

digital jewel May 5, 2021, 4:17 PM

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closest grub to xero is probably the crypts one

leaden python May 5, 2021, 4:21 PM

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isma's grub is Xeph because she's protected by the poo boi grubhappy

civic yew May 5, 2021, 4:43 PM

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hey i'm planning on trying to get the complete the game in under 5 hours achievement does anyone have any tips

digital jewel May 5, 2021, 4:43 PM

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?srpsa

sick ravenBOT May 5, 2021, 4:43 PM

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Reminder: This category is intended for competitive speedrunning discussion. Questions about achievements should be directed to #hk-help.
Guide for the 5hr speedrunning achievement: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1861523602

simple goblet May 5, 2021, 4:59 PM

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ismas grub is mag

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should be

royal whale May 5, 2021, 5:02 PM

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i did the vengfly thing nice

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a better view

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i also recorded the run but not very proud of that honestly

mossy sapphire May 5, 2021, 5:08 PM

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still a nice run grubhappy

royal whale May 5, 2021, 5:08 PM

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thanks

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just one thing:
||I NEED TO STOP DYING||

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like i die around 5 times at WK and THK and i die once at uumuu

hearty adder May 5, 2021, 5:10 PM

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it's all about practice and consistency

small forge May 5, 2021, 5:20 PM

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Does anyone have current patch splits for any% ?

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nmg

royal whale May 5, 2021, 5:22 PM

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wait 1 second

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https://www.speedrun.com/hollowknight/run/yv3vkgez

speedrun.com

Speedrunning leaderboards, resources, forums, and more!

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this has the splits but you can't download them for some reason

grizzled maple May 5, 2021, 5:29 PM

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That's because that's someone's personal splits. it's just for their own records.

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you'd get splits from the resources page, but it doesn't seem like any% cp is there

hallow orchid May 5, 2021, 5:30 PM

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Any% cp and any% 1221 use the same splits

digital jewel May 5, 2021, 5:30 PM

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unless you're going for deepnest route

hallow orchid May 5, 2021, 5:30 PM

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Unless you want to add a spore shroom split or something but that's easy to change

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Yeah if deepnest route just get rid of qg split but that's true on 1221 as well

small forge May 5, 2021, 5:38 PM

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thx

sweet isle May 5, 2021, 5:50 PM

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I’m on my first steel soul but I’m too scared to do watcher knights

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Any tips to not get murdered

subtle glade May 5, 2021, 5:50 PM

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Start another file on godhome mode, use debug to take away gear so that you have the same as on the ss file, and practise in hall of gods

haughty fossil May 5, 2021, 5:51 PM

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why do godhome to practice bosses in overworld (if you're gonna use debug anyway)

royal whale May 5, 2021, 5:51 PM

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i added some extra splits so i don't forget them like how i wasted around 5 mins because i forgot to get forgotten crossraods station but that messed up my PBs lol

subtle glade May 5, 2021, 5:51 PM

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If you don't want to use mods on your steel soul file

hearty adder May 5, 2021, 5:53 PM

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godhome bosses don't have the same hp as overworld bosses

subtle glade May 5, 2021, 5:54 PM

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Wait, watcher health scales with nail?

simple goblet May 5, 2021, 5:55 PM

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does it?

subtle glade May 5, 2021, 5:55 PM

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That's what the wiki says:
6 x 220 / 220 / 220 / 240 / 260
Total: 1320 / 1320 / 1320 / 1440 / 1560
(Nail 0/1/2/3/4)

haughty fossil May 5, 2021, 5:55 PM

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correct

royal whale May 5, 2021, 5:56 PM

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wow that's cool

hearty adder May 5, 2021, 5:56 PM

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Also watchers in godhome are always 6 - ideally during runs you'll be fighting 5

subtle glade May 5, 2021, 5:56 PM

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True

haughty fossil May 5, 2021, 5:56 PM

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also wk in godhome have a fair amount more hp than nail0 overworld wk iirc

simple goblet May 5, 2021, 5:56 PM

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still probably worth getting nail upgrades though

haughty fossil May 5, 2021, 5:57 PM

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220 vs 350 omegaMaggotPrime

subtle glade May 5, 2021, 5:57 PM

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I didn't even know bosses had more hp in godhome, the more you know

royal whale May 5, 2021, 6:14 PM

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can i like submit a run and then later when i get a better one sumbit the better one or just 1 run per person

haughty fossil May 5, 2021, 6:15 PM

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you can submit as many as you want

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only the fastest one will show on the leaderboard unless you tick "show obsolete runs"

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and we will only watch the whole way through the fastest one if there are multiple of the same category in the queue

royal whale May 5, 2021, 6:16 PM

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oh wait you guys watch it?

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i thought its mods or admins

simple goblet May 5, 2021, 6:17 PM

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It should be speedrun.com mods

hearty adder May 5, 2021, 6:21 PM

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Jamie is a verifier

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Verifiers and mods watch runs to make sure they're valid for the boards

upper lance May 5, 2021, 6:27 PM

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hi, everyone, how can i make livesplit show on screen while running hollow knight?

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it randomly works sometimes

haughty fossil May 5, 2021, 6:34 PM

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in steam/gog settings, add the launch setting -popupwindow

wide stratus May 5, 2021, 6:42 PM

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anyone know why hornet sometimes doesn't get stunned after 5 hits? Do I just practice more and try to hit 5 times faster or am I missing something? It's usually the first 5 hits (I do nail fireball nail nail nail fireball) and she'll do an attack sometimes before I get to the last hit, so I have to hit her 5 more times

haughty fossil May 5, 2021, 6:43 PM

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her nailthrow attack resets her combo counter

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she also has 2 counters, combo & total. if you don't do damage for 2s then her combo counter will reset

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iirc the total counter is 12? can't remember PoppoBlob

wide stratus May 5, 2021, 6:44 PM

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Ohh ok makes sense thanks!

knotty vigil May 5, 2021, 6:45 PM

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wide stratus anyone know why hornet sometimes doesn't get stunned after 5 hits? Do I just pra...

Oh my science, was wondering the same thing...

simple goblet May 5, 2021, 6:52 PM

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anyone else see the new pest WR

vagrant pollen May 5, 2021, 6:59 PM

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I'm trying to do the speedrun 2 quest and finish the game under 5 hrs
Do I need to buy the lumafly lantern to get Herrah in deepnest?

simple goblet May 5, 2021, 7:00 PM

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no but if you don't you will need to do dark deepnest

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so if you have time its a good idea to just get the lantern

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if not yolo

vagrant pollen May 5, 2021, 7:01 PM

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Yeah I'm not brave enough lmao

upper lance May 5, 2021, 7:02 PM

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haughty fossil in steam/gog settings, add the launch setting `-popupwindow`

Thanks!

strong vessel May 5, 2021, 7:07 PM

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vagrant pollen I'm trying to do the speedrun 2 quest and finish the game under 5 hrs Do I need...

Here's a good guide for that

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?srpsa

sick ravenBOT May 5, 2021, 7:07 PM

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Reminder: This category is intended for competitive speedrunning discussion. Questions about achievements should be directed to #hk-help.
Guide for the 5hr speedrunning achievement: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1861523602

vagrant pollen May 5, 2021, 7:14 PM

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strong vessel Here's a good guide for that

Thanks!

next jasper May 5, 2021, 7:25 PM

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I seem to not be able to set Live Split to only start counting the time once the game starts. I already have set the Layout to Game Time. Any ideas? zote

jagged vault May 5, 2021, 7:27 PM

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have you configured the autosplitter yet?

next jasper May 5, 2021, 7:27 PM

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yes

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is it ok to send screenshots here?

digital jewel May 5, 2021, 7:28 PM

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the timer starts by itself

next jasper May 5, 2021, 7:28 PM

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aaaaaaaaah

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no way

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lemme test

digital jewel May 5, 2021, 7:28 PM

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yeah

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if you start it yourself it'll remove some of the time at the start because of loading times but it's not the same

leaden kite May 5, 2021, 9:06 PM

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I'm the best speed runner ever

verbal oar May 5, 2021, 9:24 PM

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Just finished my second cp run and got sub hour! Does anyone know what happened to my wk split?

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digital jewel May 5, 2021, 9:25 PM

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what do your autosplits looks like

verbal oar May 5, 2021, 9:25 PM

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Mine?

haughty fossil May 5, 2021, 9:25 PM

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yes

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looks like you pressed "skip split" in livesplit there

verbal oar May 5, 2021, 9:26 PM

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K one sec

digital jewel May 5, 2021, 9:26 PM

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yes yours

verbal oar May 5, 2021, 9:27 PM

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It worked fine on my last run

digital jewel May 5, 2021, 9:27 PM

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yep looks like you hit the hotkey to skip the split

verbal oar May 5, 2021, 9:28 PM

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What are the hot keys for livesplit?

haughty fossil May 5, 2021, 9:28 PM

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you can right click livesplit > settings to change hotkeys

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also remove the Hollow Knight Practice autosplit, the autosplitter will split on any game ending

verbal oar May 5, 2021, 9:28 PM

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K thx

haughty fossil May 5, 2021, 9:29 PM

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if you had end-triggering autosplit on then that will have triggered early

verbal oar May 5, 2021, 9:29 PM

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So I should remove the hk autosplit

haughty fossil May 5, 2021, 9:29 PM

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yes

warm obsidian May 5, 2021, 10:02 PM

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as someone intrested in learning hollowknight speed running is there a type of catagory for using the debug console mod to start with specific charms?

haughty fossil May 5, 2021, 10:03 PM

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no there isn't, there are a few glitched categories (chiefly TE AG) that use main menu storage on current patch to get a full save file immediately though

warm obsidian May 5, 2021, 10:04 PM

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hm then i might just not compete in online runnings or i might make the catagory depending on rules :/

hearty adder May 5, 2021, 10:04 PM

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What did you have in mind specifically?

haughty fossil May 5, 2021, 10:05 PM

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we do have a spreadsheet for small, home-grown category extensions but there does need to be enough of a reason to run it in the first place for most people to take a look at it

warm obsidian May 5, 2021, 10:05 PM

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so id have to re cheack stats for the charms and how many notches you get at start but i was thinking a soul focus charm and some damage increase ones

hearty adder May 5, 2021, 10:05 PM

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what did you want to do with them?

haughty fossil May 5, 2021, 10:05 PM

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you have 3 notches, but pressing "all charms" in debug gives you 11 notches

warm obsidian May 5, 2021, 10:06 PM

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ideally base the entire run of the charms i spawn with

haughty fossil May 5, 2021, 10:06 PM

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but generally starting a run with all charms doesn't sound that much like a major change?

warm obsidian May 5, 2021, 10:06 PM

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no itd be a limit of three

haughty fossil May 5, 2021, 10:07 PM

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well for any% and all skills the only charm used is shaman because it's the best 3 notch charm you can have for damage output

hearty adder May 5, 2021, 10:07 PM

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Honestly it sounds like you should check out current patch All Glitches speedruns that use Main Menu Storage, like Jamie already mentioned, since that just give you all charms and notches from the get-go

warm obsidian May 5, 2021, 10:08 PM

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i wouldnt be inrested im gonna be doing this for personal records no glitches and a learning experience i dont want to copy other peoples tactics i wanna laern from experience this will be my first speedrunning game ever

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in terms of a catagory you could choose how many charms you wanna limit and what they are but for starting out for me 3 charms kingsoul the grubbery lergy and deep focus

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first run

snow dome May 5, 2021, 10:31 PM

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That's more of a challenge run, really.

Rules for speedrun categories usually follow certain specific criteria that are internally consistent. There's no specific reason why it should be "3 charms" or whatever.

There was some stuff done on a "New Game +" run, which is where you start with everything already unlocked, skills, charms, etc, and then you just do whatever category. The actual loadout is changed only to remove things that are required for a category; All Skills New Game+ would start with all the charms, but no skills, for example.

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This might be something you're interested in. You can find the save file over in #resources

warm obsidian May 5, 2021, 10:47 PM

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ty

warm obsidian May 5, 2021, 10:54 PM

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snow dome That's more of a challenge run, really. Rules for speedrun categories usually f...

what folder do i put save files in?

dusk portal May 5, 2021, 10:56 PM

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?saves

sick ravenBOT May 5, 2021, 10:56 PM

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Saves

Windows File Paths: (Assumes Default Steam Install Path, Adjust accordingly for DRM Free or Non-Standard Steam Path)

Game Files: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Hollow Knight\```
** **
Mac File Paths:
```Save Files: ~/Library/Application Support/unity.Team Cherry.Hollow Knight/
Game Files: ~/Library/Application Support/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/hollow_knight.app/```
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Linux File Paths:
```Save Files: ~/.config/unity3d/Team Cherry/Hollow Knight/
Game Files: ~/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/```

warm obsidian May 5, 2021, 11:01 PM

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its not giving me a sabe option when i start hmmm

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maybe i need to rename it cause my first slot if taken

haughty fossil May 5, 2021, 11:02 PM

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user1.dat is your first save file, user2.dat is the second, etc...

warm obsidian May 5, 2021, 11:03 PM

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ok i was correect then here hoping

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lesss go thank you for all the help

sturdy glade May 6, 2021, 3:30 AM

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recording isn't necessary at the beginning

pliant lagoon May 6, 2021, 3:50 AM

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Possible cp uumuu 2cycle strat. Theoretically, if you can do the same damage cycle that will do the job. But I am not able to pull it off.

normal aspen May 6, 2021, 3:54 AM

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yeah thats baxsically the cp 2 cycle strat

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its super hard and hast been done in a run to my knowledge

pliant lagoon May 6, 2021, 4:04 AM

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I am watching Quatopine's video. I saw he hit the last two fb, but I somehow triple the second last and missed the last entirely. Is it a way to improve it?

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Is it cuz my gap in between fb and nail are too long?

valid kraken May 6, 2021, 4:07 AM

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Ok speedrun how I want to get into it but idk how

stuck raptor May 6, 2021, 4:08 AM

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?pins

sick ravenBOT May 6, 2021, 4:08 AM

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Check the pinned messages for more information - https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/187137504393035776/823796522751623168/unknown.png

onyx spade May 6, 2021, 5:52 AM

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@pliant lagoon yeah I plan on making a guide for 2 cycle, just haven't gotten around to it. with that first cycle, you really want the 2nd fireball to not push uumuu too far to the right, otherwise you won't have enough time. ideally that 2nd fireball doesn't even double, so you can double the last two.

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also I didn't even know you could triple uumuu and I labbed this out for +10 hours. so I'm just gonna assume the triple is very luck based and can't be consistent

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also I have managed to do the first cycle twice in runs, but choked the second cycle both times

simple goblet May 6, 2021, 5:59 AM

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pliant lagoon Possible cp uumuu 2cycle strat. Theoretically, if you can do the same damage cyc...

Wasn't that 160 damage, meaning doing that again would work or am I mistaking

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This might be impossible but you might also be able to do that but with less nail hits.
A double, a nail hit, a double, a nail hit, and a triple.
Or a nail hit, a double, a nail hit, a double, a triple.
Or a nail hit, a double, a double, a nail hit, and a triple.
All of these are probably impossible but it seems cool

onyx spade May 6, 2021, 6:05 AM

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as far as we know, you can't do the same damage cycle in the 2nd phase, since uumuu's physics changes for whatever reason.

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max we have found in 2nd cycle is 140 (145 might be possible but I haven't done it)

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so we need 160 damage in first

heavy otter May 6, 2021, 6:16 AM

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simple goblet This might be impossible but you might also be able to do that but with less nai...

no upgraded nail is 5 dmg upgraded once is 9 dmg upgraded another time is 14 dmg and the last upgrade is 18 dmg

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the vengeful spirit does 15 dmg

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desolate dive does 15 dmg while the shockwave does 20 dmg

simple goblet May 6, 2021, 6:34 AM

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ok, I just didn't know uumuu's physics would be different

versed mauve May 6, 2021, 6:54 AM

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i just got speedrun 2

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4 hours 44 mins

sick ravenBOT May 6, 2021, 7:05 AM

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Reminder: This category is intended for competitive speedrunning discussion. Questions about achievements should be directed to #hk-help.
Guide for the 5hr speedrunning achievement: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1861523602

dreamy bough May 6, 2021, 7:31 AM

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heavy otter no upgraded nail is 5 dmg upgraded once is 9 dmg upgraded another time is 14 dmg...

nail damage is 5/9/13/17/21 fyi

pliant lagoon May 6, 2021, 8:10 AM

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onyx spade <@!558126860895256587> yeah I plan on making a guide for 2 cycle, just haven't g...

Actually, i have got that several times. It is indeed not consistent for me , but I can pull that off around 1/4 of the time. Considering I am not super high skilled player, I do believe it can be more consistent for more experienced players. By the way, the damage cycle I had should be exactly 160. I have no knowledge of how to do the 2nd cycle for the moment. If you can combine with the 140-damage cycle, it should do the job.

old sierra May 6, 2021, 8:11 AM

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...Just finished my first legal (non-modded) run for the leaderboards...
And I just realized my Livesplit was showing "Real Time" the entire run.
Checking afterwards, "Game Time" was over a minute faster. hollowcry

onyx spade May 6, 2021, 8:19 AM

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pliant lagoon Actually, i have got that several times. It is indeed not consistent for me , bu...

I posted a couple clips in #any-percent-nmg of the 140 damage cycle if you wanna take a look

knotty vigil May 6, 2021, 9:07 AM

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speedrun

pliant lagoon May 6, 2021, 9:13 AM

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onyx spade I posted a couple clips in <#290932216781864960> of the 140 damage cycle if you ...

I did it!

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unfortunely, I cant upload directly on discord

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cuz the file is over 100m

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😩

onyx spade May 6, 2021, 9:16 AM

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well done! that might make you the 3rd person to ever do it

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assuming you're talking about the 2 cycle

pliant lagoon May 6, 2021, 9:18 AM

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Thx! I am so happy ahhhh

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do you know who else have done that?

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https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1kp4y147v5?share_source=copy_web

空洞骑士1431版本乌姆(uumuu)2cycle_哔哩哔哩 (゜-゜)つロ干杯~-bilibili

onyx spade May 6, 2021, 9:21 AM

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me and xTeixeira are the only other people to have gotten the 2 cycle afaik

haughty fossil May 6, 2021, 9:22 AM

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first person to do it in a run gets unending glory 😤

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(quat will forever have unending glory in my heart because spelless feelspkman )

onyx spade May 6, 2021, 9:23 AM

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I should have done it the other day in a run, got the 160 cycle then choked

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I'd be the kinda person to get the 2 cycle uumuu in a run, but not get comsob cos my movement to archives is so bad

haughty fossil May 6, 2021, 9:24 AM

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if you aren't getting hit 3 times on fog canyon east drop are you really in fog canyon east?

onyx spade May 6, 2021, 9:24 AM

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so true

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also somethings sus about that uumuu fight, maybe you can take a look jamie. seems like it's not enough damage for 2 cycle

digital jewel May 6, 2021, 9:28 AM

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I count 245 damage

onyx spade May 6, 2021, 9:28 AM

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I counted 275 I think

digital jewel May 6, 2021, 9:28 AM

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Maybe someone else can double check

subtle glade May 6, 2021, 9:29 AM

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Doesn't even show on recording lol

digital jewel May 6, 2021, 9:29 AM

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Oh you're right

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140, 135

onyx spade May 6, 2021, 9:30 AM

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yep

subtle glade May 6, 2021, 9:31 AM

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Now I got it, why does the timer start so early?

verbal stag May 6, 2021, 9:31 AM

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are you comparing against game time?

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looks like real time

digital jewel May 6, 2021, 9:31 AM

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Also the way the description is translated is "Although I don’t know if anyone has succeeded before" when you already know other people have succeeded at it ax2uSip

pliant lagoon May 6, 2021, 9:32 AM

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sorry man

digital jewel May 6, 2021, 9:32 AM

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Not sure if that's accurate translation

pliant lagoon May 6, 2021, 9:32 AM

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wheni was uploading

subtle glade May 6, 2021, 9:32 AM

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verbal stag are you comparing against game time?

Yea, that was it, idk why it changed, it was game time before

pliant lagoon May 6, 2021, 9:32 AM

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i dont know that

verbal stag May 6, 2021, 9:32 AM

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livesplit be like that

pliant lagoon May 6, 2021, 9:32 AM

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I was waiting the video get verfied so i can change

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but

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for the first cycle

onyx spade May 6, 2021, 9:33 AM

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you're all good piggreen

pliant lagoon May 6, 2021, 9:33 AM

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i am guessing the last fb get tripple

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it is so weird

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cuz i though it was double

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but the hp bar below shows it was a triple hit

digital jewel May 6, 2021, 9:34 AM

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A triple wouldn't be enough still

onyx spade May 6, 2021, 9:34 AM

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hp shows double hit to me, and sounds like a double

digital jewel May 6, 2021, 9:36 AM

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What you showed in this video would work if you had a nail upgrade I think

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But it doesn't add up otherwise

pliant lagoon May 6, 2021, 9:36 AM

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is there a way to screem cut?

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I just checked my nail was 5 damage

onyx spade May 6, 2021, 9:37 AM

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7 nail hits total, +4 on each of them. that means +28 which goes to 303

pliant lagoon May 6, 2021, 9:37 AM

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i do agree

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that

digital jewel May 6, 2021, 9:37 AM

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Oh do you have qol mod installed

onyx spade May 6, 2021, 9:37 AM

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I thought that too xero, but I thought uumuu doesn't get pushed back by dream nail with QoL

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and in this clip he does get pushed back

pliant lagoon May 6, 2021, 9:38 AM

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what is qol?

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may I ask

onyx spade May 6, 2021, 9:38 AM

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quality of life mod

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just adds nice stuff that was in 1221 that was removed later, like mid air inv drops

pliant lagoon May 6, 2021, 9:41 AM

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So i get a bit confused, but I assume you are saying the qol mod somehow interfere either nail damage or uumuu hp right?

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I though the qol mod only shows the hp bar

onyx spade May 6, 2021, 9:42 AM

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sorry we didn't say, qol mod makes uumuu's health 250 instead of 300

pliant lagoon May 6, 2021, 9:42 AM

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ohhh

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i see

kind flume May 6, 2021, 9:43 AM

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you can turn it off though

vague jolt May 6, 2021, 9:43 AM

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onyx spade sorry we didn't say, qol mod makes uumuu's health 250 instead of 300

But if that's the case, then QoL also reduces the uumuu knockback right?

kind flume May 6, 2021, 9:43 AM

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in AppData\LocalLow\Team Cherry\Hollow Knight\QoL.GlobalSettings.json

onyx spade May 6, 2021, 9:44 AM

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exactly flib, meaning that this clip wasn't using QoL

vague jolt May 6, 2021, 9:44 AM

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onyx spade I thought that too xero, but I thought uumuu doesn't get pushed back by dream na...

Oh right I didn't read this far lmao

pliant lagoon May 6, 2021, 9:50 AM

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take a while to delete that XD

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in the end

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I get trolled by mod ahhhhh

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anyway, thx for verfying that both Xero and Quatopine

onyx spade May 6, 2021, 9:51 AM

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happens, you still manged to get 275 damage in 2 cycles which is already better than 90% of CP any% runners, so you should be happy 🙂

pliant lagoon May 6, 2021, 9:56 AM

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May I confirm that the qol mod is the "EnemyHPbar" mod right?

onyx spade May 6, 2021, 9:57 AM

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no, qol is just called qol

mossy sapphire May 6, 2021, 9:57 AM

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qol /= hp bar

digital jewel May 6, 2021, 9:57 AM

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You're not using qol. Uumuu doesn't get knocked back by dream nail on qol

pliant lagoon May 6, 2021, 9:58 AM

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But how come my uumuu suddenly only has 250 instead of 300?

digital jewel May 6, 2021, 9:59 AM

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Does the hp bar show 250?

pliant lagoon May 6, 2021, 9:59 AM

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debug EnemyHPbar and custom knight are the only three mod I have used

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the hp bar doesn't show the number

mossy sapphire May 6, 2021, 10:00 AM

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it would be nice if it would do

digital jewel May 6, 2021, 10:00 AM

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You may have increased your nail damage

onyx spade May 6, 2021, 10:00 AM

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we didn't say your uumuu has 250 instead of 300, that was just a theory we had

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yeah I think you might have accidentally pushed the nail+ button

subtle glade May 6, 2021, 10:00 AM

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Use the debug menu and see in the enemies tab how much hp "mega jellyfish" has

digital jewel May 6, 2021, 10:00 AM

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is the default shortcut to increase nail damage by 4

mossy sapphire May 6, 2021, 10:01 AM

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"mega jellyfish" lmao

subtle glade May 6, 2021, 10:01 AM

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That's its name in the code lol

mossy sapphire May 6, 2021, 10:01 AM

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enemy names are funny

pliant lagoon May 6, 2021, 10:03 AM

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!!That is so stupid of mine

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you are right

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my nail us 9 instead of 5

onyx spade May 6, 2021, 10:03 AM

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ah makes sense

pliant lagoon May 6, 2021, 10:03 AM

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and the reason is not beacuse

onyx spade May 6, 2021, 10:03 AM

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you're all good 🙂

pliant lagoon May 6, 2021, 10:03 AM

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i accidently press +

subtle glade May 6, 2021, 10:04 AM

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Are you doing the nail1 route then?

pliant lagoon May 6, 2021, 10:05 AM

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the fact is when the first time attempt the sub 5hour achievement I made a save file for the propose of practicing.

subtle glade May 6, 2021, 10:06 AM

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Lol

pliant lagoon May 6, 2021, 10:06 AM

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and for that run

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I upgrade my nail

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and it has been a long while and i just forgot that at all

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yikes

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At least my Thk and WK file are correct

subtle glade May 6, 2021, 10:07 AM

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Btw I suggest you get the benchwarp mod, it's really good for practise

pliant lagoon May 6, 2021, 10:08 AM

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I was getting so scared that my practice is 1nail all the time

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is that the mid you can set up a bench wherever you want?

subtle glade May 6, 2021, 10:09 AM

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It's the mod that lets you set your current bench to a different one and warp to it

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You could for example start a new file, warp to archive bench, and debug give yourself gear

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Then you're ready to practise uumuu in no time

onyx spade May 6, 2021, 10:10 AM

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you can also set a bench wherever you want 🙂

subtle glade May 6, 2021, 10:10 AM

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Wait you can?

onyx spade May 6, 2021, 10:11 AM

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yep

subtle glade May 6, 2021, 10:11 AM

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How

onyx spade May 6, 2021, 10:11 AM

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there's a deploy option, you might need to push something to bring it up. you can deploy a bench anywhere

subtle glade May 6, 2021, 10:11 AM

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Cool

pliant lagoon May 6, 2021, 10:15 AM

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ohh I though that is the feature in rando mod

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ahhhhh

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thx!

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it is definitely a roller coaster day for me ahhhhh

haughty fossil May 6, 2021, 10:16 AM

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onyx spade also somethings sus about that uumuu fight, maybe you can take a look jamie. see...

i would look but bilibili has decided it does not like me today

pliant lagoon May 6, 2021, 10:17 AM

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at a moment, i felt I have been treated like a cheater ahhhhhhhh

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yeah jamie

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i deleted that

haughty fossil May 6, 2021, 10:17 AM

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oh i see

onyx spade May 6, 2021, 10:17 AM

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you're not a cheater lol, just baited us a bit

pliant lagoon May 6, 2021, 10:17 AM

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cuz you know

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it is 1nail 2 cycle XD

onyx spade May 6, 2021, 10:17 AM

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nail1 2-cycle is still respectable 🙂

haughty fossil May 6, 2021, 10:17 AM

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same as that one time i got 56.10 kp but on looking at the footage my livesplit just randomly decided to start late zote

onyx spade May 6, 2021, 10:18 AM

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lmao jamie exactly like that

normal aspen May 6, 2021, 10:18 AM

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nah jamie ur just a gamer

onyx spade May 6, 2021, 10:18 AM

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and we all thought you were memeing but you were serious

normal aspen May 6, 2021, 10:18 AM

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55 cp kp is def doable

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but the rng needed is dumb

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coz u need a vengefly u can do like a min height hop for and rng softfall

haughty fossil May 6, 2021, 10:19 AM

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convinced that vengefly is rigged

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i have had good vengefly rng maybe like 10 times i stg

kind flume May 6, 2021, 10:20 AM

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I was so close to beating your kp somni