dash reversals have two main uses btw : either dash very close to the wall, and the walljump will carry you way out (the dash gets completely reversed) or dash far from the wall and the walljump only goes up, not a little to the side
#speedrunning
dreamy bough
limpid dust
buddy nobody cares about a category name don't look deep into it. We just want to play the game fast
frank obsidian
What are those
haughty fossil
true ending is called true ending because it is (was before godmaster but we don't run on that patch usually anyway) the most complete ending for the game, requiring the most effort to obtain and providing the most satisfying ending
stiff delta
when will lore community explain why on 1221 if a dumb fucking fly hits the ceiling i stop going up
limpid dust
What are those
hungry wall are walls eating your fireball casue you are close to it (common in wk fight)
old obsidian
we should rename path of pain to path of fun since the category name is misleading
dreamy bough
What are those
hungry walls : walls eating your vs because they spawn behind you for some reason, cdash glitch (usually) not damaging ennemies somehow and you getting hit instead
low bramble
also the first and only thing in the run description is "defeat the radiance"
dreamy bough
there's another cdash glitch where if you cdash from a corner your cdash autoreleases
frank obsidian
true ending is called true ending because it is (was before godmaster but we don...
U mean killing ur half sister and then drinking 8314937498 grams of orange juice for eternity isn't satisfying? 
low bramble
so that will clarify anything if people do not actually know and aren't just trying to be annoying about it
steady lynx
Can they also explain floaty jumps?
frank obsidian
Can they explain Main Menu Storage?
old obsidian
but can they explain nail turnaround wing cancels
dreamy bough
wait what schy
steady lynx
Can't wait for the lore on televator and elevator storage
molten aurora
Not exactly lore, but I wanna see the physics behind how this knight smacks his nail against spikes so hard he propels himself into the air.
low bramble
https://www.twitch.tv/krythomsr/clip/AgitatedEagerRutabagaBatChest-sOZCqjkBiD_aLbFY? if hollow knight lore is so complete why can't you explain this 😤
limpid dust
guys wtf stop cheating and play the game normally as the lore say to
knotty vigil
alright guys i think that's enough, there's no need to bash on the lore community just because of some random guy with a dumb request
dusk portal
https://www.twitch.tv/krythomsr/clip/AgitatedEagerRutabagaBatChest-sOZCqjkBiD_aL...
NMMS and AG are still blowing my mind and my brain can't even understand a single thing happening in that clip
frank obsidian
https://www.twitch.tv/krythomsr/clip/AgitatedEagerRutabagaBatChest-sOZCqjkBiD_aL...
Excuse me they did the what now?
digital jewel
oh damn I'm sad I missed this
elfin vortex
https://www.twitch.tv/krythomsr/clip/AgitatedEagerRutabagaBatChest-sOZCqjkBiD_aL...
I desperately want an explanation
steady lynx
Basically you get elevator storage which gives upwards momentum and you use a dash slash to keep it all the way up to the ledge
Then you use interaction storage to warp to right above the bench that's below you
elfin vortex
Well shit that sounds hard af
steady lynx
Base patch do be buggy
grand elm
should we go talk to the lore community and ask them to set the radiance ending as the true ending because it's misleading to speedrunners ?
radiant carbon
No as it’ll probably cause more hassle for everyone here and really I want this tangent to move on already
naive nova
Steel Soul CP time's coming down slowly but surely 
Does anyone know a ballpark figure for how much slower current patch is on Steel Soul any%?
slim geyser
Tbh i don't think either current patch SS or 1221 SS is really optimized enough to determine
naive nova
Ah okay, I'm sorta shooting for sub 40, but no clue if that's a pretty good time or not
slim geyser
That sounds pretty good to me. Sub 40 is generally considered a good entry level time for normal 1221 any%, and considered to be very solid in normal CP any%
I guess the best way to figure out the difference in the categories would be to check how time blue lake rout saves between the old patch categories and add it to the time 1221 saves over CP
I can't think of a reason blue lake rout would be significantly different between patches but I'm not a rout expert
limpid ruin
wait what schy
wings turnaround: using nail then trying to use wings with no further inputs delays the wings by a ton (I think it was as high as 0.6s even?), but for some reason turning around between the nail and the wings skips that delay completely, and you only have normal wings dip left to worry about. its the weirdest thing and super good to know about
infinite time 
I think it's something like 25% of the rta is loads, roughly speaking?
yeee, that's why switch can manually go back from lost kin and wings instead of s/q teleporting
which is honestly a long way back
slim geyser
Steel Soul CP time's coming down slowly but surely <:hollowswag:5856316366082540...
good lord, just realized you're already yonks ahead of all the CP times on CP SS
congrats
in fact, it seems you're the first one to have a CP time above a single 1221 time
limpid dust
ho yeah I hate those wings / nail interaction while doing bosses
molten aurora
I was practicing my all skills herrah split, and the devout right before herrah jumped back and I totally whiffed my ddark. I fire balled anyway and it must have triple hit, because it died in a single fireball. Was I just extremely lucky?
knotty vigil
how tf do you do watcher knights in steel soul any%
i cant even do it with shade soul
molten aurora
With a lot of practice.
molten aurora
Check out fireborns video if you haven't, there's other good videos as well, but I don't any% so don't know them off the top of my head.
limpid ruin
the fireb0rn any% tutorial on the fight and the pest video in #any-percent-nmg pins are very good starting points
potentially routing in some extra geo and go around to fetch nail 1 upgrade?
knotty vigil
is it harder on CP?
limpid dust
No it s easier on cp cause they are less jank
molten aurora
Watcher knights are hard with low gear, I've seen ball park estimates of ~20 hours to get them consistent.
You will just have to practice them a lot.
slim geyser
I had a question for CP runners
Fireballs notably have less range in CP, but i've never heard of it affecting the WK fight, which leads me to believe that it doesn't. If that's the case, how?
knotty vigil
its just so damn hard on cp for me
im running practice on cp for the mods
bc i cant get 1221 mods
slim geyser
wait, you're running on 1221 but practicing on cp? @knotty vigil
slim geyser
No it s easier on cp cause they are less jank
so wait, are you a runner that does both patches and finds that the fireball change doesn't affect the fight?
my mind would be blown by that, because i think if I tried with less fireball range the fight would be impossible for me
slim geyser
that's what I'm trying to figure out ashen
vocal dove
i find watchers harder on 1221 because they can start attacks offscreen
knotty vigil
do you want to try and call to determine it? i feel like its harder on cp
ive got like, 2 watchers doing different attacks at the same time
is that normal
knotty vigil
oh alr just making sure
slim geyser
it's rare that they do the exact same thing
anyway
you were suggesting a voice call to see the differences in the fight?
knotty vigil
yeah, screen share
I also noticed while looking at 1221 runs the fireball can hit the same watcher twice or more
and on cp it cant do that
slim geyser
also @ joe and @ alp this is a cool discussion to have, I'm surprised I've not heard about these differences before, I feel like this should be talked about more often when differences between patches (esp any%) come up
slim geyser
and on cp it cant do that
that part is almost certainly not true
knotty vigil
well, its not working on cp
vocal dove
when they roll towards you on the ground you can jump over them, turnaround and fireball and it can double or triple them
low bramble
you can double/triple on cp
slim geyser
anyway I'm down to do a voice call. Either a DM or a public channel here works for me ashen
I'll leave the choice to you
knotty vigil
sure we can do public, I dont mind
dreamy token
is there a path of pain speedrun guide
spice cradle
https://www.speedrun.com/hollowknight/guide/6vw3e this + watching runs is the best way to learn
knotty vigil
bruh
i literally got a pb on aluba that was 6 seconds or so too long
now its not on top 15
BRUH
prime delta
is there a guide for creating multiple installs? I looked around and didn't see one, then tried to figure it out myself with no success
fair island
It's there in the downpatching guide
prime delta
oh whoops. I didn't look there because I wasn't downpatching, I just wanted to make separate ones for debug/rando/etc
molten aurora
I think need to do runs without a timer for a while, I'm really tired of resetting after cloak/claw, it's making me not want to do runs. I just need to practice and get more consistent.
dapper cove
You’re falling into the same habits I did, and you really just gotta force yourself not to reset and don’t look at the clock
stray kestrel
i've seen a lot of runners pb after being super behind in the early game
no-reset runs are really good as practice
dapper cove
Like bc I haven’t been resetting my runs I have a legit chance at 4ms WR
molten aurora
In my pb I was 2 mins behind early and that didn't bother me. But lately being 10s behind at cloak, makes me feel bad and perform worse for the rest of the run.
stray kestrel
yea, it can be hard, another tactic that may work is not comparing to your pb and instead comparing to balanced pb or average or median times or something
dapper cove
You can always have the clock going and not look at it
stray kestrel
alternatively, you can use it as "well im behind, lets just not reset this and go for consistency and completing a run and not sheer speed"
molten aurora
alternatively, you can use it as "well im behind, lets just not reset this and g...
Yeah, that's what I'm trying to do now, by running without a timer, I'll still know that I'm on a bad pace, but without the big red timer looking at me, I'll be less likely to let it bother me.
I just wish being in the red didn't bother me, because I know it's not a big deal, especially for a new runner like me with so much time to save late.
dapper cove
you could change the colour from red to like blue or purple
molten aurora
It's not the colour that bothers me, it's just being behind.
wind spear
It's not the colour that bothers me, it's just being behind.
I feel this, if I ever hit a red, I just restart instantly.
dapper cove
i'm so used to being behind bc my mawlek split on my pb is so good i can never seem to get there, and when i do i choke at the vengefly pogo
if i can just get that fight more consistent i have a really good shot at getting close to wr and it makes me excited which could be bad bc then i tend to rush things
molten aurora
Wait, close to WR for 4ms?
dapper cove
yeah
my SoB beats WR
my SoB is currently sitting at 7:50 which beats monstah's time by 1s but i'm putting that on hold for now as i do my little last place marathon
molten aurora
What's your pb?
dapper cove
it's not great rn bc i messed up a lot but it's 9:17 or something i don't remember exactly i'll have to double check
molten aurora
Huh, okay, that sob seems kinda crazy then.
silver reef
on the 106 splits that you can download from SRC, what do the things like 2U and 3D after certain splits mean
molten aurora
The inputs for the stag stations, so in your examples, 2 up and 3 down.
silver reef
cool, thanks
vocal dove
the timer anxiety is so real. i had to PB offline because it can get so stressful.
vital geyser
@silver reef i second this username
molten aurora
I accidentally got the fast cycle on the god pixel cpeaks room and choked the whole run because I'd never practiced it before 
I dashed through the laser at the time of the room and my brain shut off.
dawn adder
gg
somber cedar
You can always run with timer but not look at it /hide the timer
dawn adder
just did 2 runs to vengeful while wondering why my time was so bad (which is why i restarted) only to realise that i was running real time not game time
dawn adder
i didn't even know you could set multiple timers, I'll do that now
dawn adder
i opened that by accident and closed it from pure fear
now i will spend 30 minutes exploring this why u have to do this to me 
honest folio
its simple, right click -> edit layout -> information (i believe) -> timer
then you can edit timer if you click on it from the tabs above
no sorry i'm completely wrong
click on the "+" sign in the edit layout menu and add a timer from there
dawn adder
yea that edits the current timer you have to click the +
honest folio
and if you go to "layout settings" you can edit the specific timers to what you want them to display
dawn adder
how do i make one compare against real time and one game time?
honest folio
and if you go to "layout settings" you can edit the specific timers to what you ...
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dawn adder
oh sry ty
honest folio
np
dawn adder
oh lmao I was looking at "title" instead of "timer" which is why I didn't see that setting
dawn adder
I have been practicisng fireball skips w/ save states and infinite soul and not to brag or anything but now i can fireball skip with 18 fireballs 
dawn adder
there's multiple fireball skips????????????????h
honest folio
there's 3
honest folio
thats the only really important one
dawn adder
to skip going around on your way to hornet
honest folio
rest is just timesaves
dawn adder
alr
yea that's what i used to do but i have realised that fireball skip isn't actually hard and would save 10-30 seconds
dawn adder
are there any other tricky skips i should practice while i still have the debug mod installed
ive done fireball skip & pogo skip
oh right qga
next gorge
Yo guys can someone help me find out how to get the speedrun thing where it shows your time in the corner?
just a basic speedrunning timer that pauses on load screens etc.
dusk portal
Livesplit?
dawn adder
umbral void
hi
so i was downpatching steam, and this popped up when I was doing that
is the downpatcher really safe?
dusk portal
It's safe
umbral void
fear but ok
dusk portal
It just opens a command Prompt and Windows doesn't like that
umbral void
its just windows defender msg
dusk portal
The Smartscreen blocked the executable
umbral void
i got it from speedrun.com so I assume its ok
steady lynx
It's ok then
umbral void
this normal?
limpid dust
window defender will show this for every stuff you'll download from not a known company
the green warning
umbral void
this normal?
.
limpid dust
yeah because if you use cmd it might not be safe
dusk portal
this normal?
That's how it was for me
haughty fossil
are you on the most up to date version of steam, are you using steam beta, are you using steam family mode
dusk portal
Now you just open the Steam Console and Downpatch
umbral void
are you on the most up to date version of steam, are you using steam beta, are y...
updated I think
umbral void
Now you just open the Steam Console and Downpatch
should i restart steam?
dusk portal
There's a commend in the downpatching guide, just Win+R and enter it
That should open the console
umbral void
i dont think it downpatched
dusk portal
i dont think it downpatched
i just restarted the computer when that happened
Then I opened the .exe
And did the same once again
dusk portal
Just, when you downpatch, be patient, I had to wait for 3 hours before having it fully downpatched
knotty vigil
is there any way to fully skip the cutscenes when starting a new game on switch current patch? (without having to press a button to skip btw)
haughty fossil
no, current patch forces you to watch a tiny bit before skipping by pressing a button
normal aspen
Nah
haughty fossil
note for console you want to be spamming because time starts before the cutscenes
knotty vigil
right, thanks
steady lynx
Enjoy 29 seconds before the game loads in
knotty vigil
I speedrun mario 64 I’ve been through worse
silk lion
anyone wanna challenge me in Mantis lords low%
normal aspen
?
steady lynx
Clawless dashless mantis lords?
frank obsidian
My friend tried out a Hollow Twitch speedrun, and like the good best friend of 10 years that I am, I used !sleep in Distant Village 
silk lion
Clawless dashless mantis lords?
this is how I did it
I dont know if you can do it clawless dashless
you tecdhnically can do it vs less
frank obsidian
you tecdhnically can do it vs less
That's hecking annoying tho
steady lynx
Probably with some fun shade skips
silk lion
I did dash vs claw nothin else
frank obsidian
Probably with some fun shade skips
silk lion
I mean you need to buy like 1 toll to get going in GP but thats it
frank obsidian
I mean you need to buy like 1 toll to get going in GP but thats it
You can still do the fireball skip, u pogo on the Squit
onyx spade
surely you can get mantis lords without dash?
silk lion
surely you can get mantis lords without dash?
fw too?
haughty fossil
you need fireball to get into wastes and claw to get to mantis lords
steady lynx
I'm mostly thinking if you can get there without claw
haughty fossil
dash is not necessary
silk lion
yes exactly
true palm
dash is required for very little in the game
onyx spade
you need claw to open mantis lords arena
haughty fossil
low% already goes to claw, mantis lords are right there
silk lion
dash is not necessary
I can stream the speedrun in 10 minutesw you guys tell me if it is low% enoughj
haughty fossil
if you're getting cloak then no, you can remove cloak
silk lion
I actually took soul catcher in my first runs only to realise that doesnt work lol
haughty fossil
look at a low% run and you will see how they get to claw
true palm
ye thats a good place
silk lion
if you're getting cloak then no, you can remove cloak
hOw
onyx spade
she just said watch a low% run lol
silk lion
look at a low% run and you will see how they get to claw
I mean, I feel like how I go to fc needs me to get dash
i really dont know
true palm
thats the mandatory skip
silk lion
oh shhh
steady lynx
Low% is a fun category that exists
silk lion
time to learn to vss
normal aspen
its not too bad, u can even see in homothetrys clip he fucks the last turnaround pretty hard
silk lion
anyways so question
normal aspen
u actually dont even need 3 fbs
true palm
i literally make it all the time fireballing the wrong direction
its hard but its accessible to beginners
onyx spade
show me a clip with 2 then 🙂
silk lion
will you guys be willing to turn this into an actual speedrun or do you think that it is not worth time sonce iuts oinly like 25 minutes
haughty fossil
i mean its just the start of low%
true palm
not everything can be a category, but that would take about 14
silk lion
yes I know Im sht at the game but still
haughty fossil
true palm
you could drop time since you dont need to open the stag
silk lion
I am bad at the game so thats just a category I speedran bc I was bvored on a sunday evening thats all
onyx spade
point b is relevant here
true palm
you should really check out low% if you're looking for a challenge category
dont even have to speedrun it
haughty fossil
this is the guidelines for the misc runs sheet, which contains category extensions that aren't yet well run enough to be on the cat. extension speedrun.com boards.
silk lion
I mean is it gonna be like grey morner quest low% or some sht
true palm
nah nah, low% is just beat the game without dash essentially
normal aspen
show me a clip with 2 then 🙂
true palm
fuck thats less tight than i thought
onyx spade
legitimately thought it wasn't possible
onyx spade
I'll have to try it some time
silk lion
is it possible with 1 tho
normal aspen
nag
silk lion
anyways so basicly I just wanna be able to run a not-so-long category
normal aspen
4ms is short
onyx spade
yeah I was also thinking 2 wraiths might be possible
true palm
4ms, aluba%, hiveblood%, greathopper% come to mind
onyx spade
4ms 0 geo
true palm
out of all of them, greathopper has the hardest skips, aluba/4ms are easy to learn, and hiveblood is difficult for other reasons
normal aspen
bestgirl%
silk lion
tf is 4ms
normal aspen
collector%
true palm
4 mask shards
normal aspen
fccn%
onyx spade
what's that last one somni?
steady lynx
Menderbug%
normal aspen
fog canyon charm notch%
onyx spade
oooh rando skips pog
steady lynx
Dying to false Knight%
true palm
if you want more serious runs that are short, pantheon/collo ils, and whitepalace/path of pain come to mind
normal aspen
yeah the last 3 are just pet cats of mine that show off stupid shit
atm fccn% shows off the first and last skjip i founds which is kinda cool
onyx spade
speaking off collector%, do you have a clip of the love key skip?
normal aspen
onyx spade
ty
normal aspen
o7
onyx spade
I can't tell, are you dashing off the wall?
haughty fossil
yes
true palm
its not hard to get the turn arounds on the corner, rest of the skip looks like it can be brutal
true palm
oh it looked like you were doing a turnaround inbetween the last two
k that looks a lot easier than i originally thought
still not free
normal aspen
nah the skips that do that are a good bit spicier
short spire
is there a reason not to do dash-3fb-dash instead
normal aspen
i find jumping off the wall out of fb endlag easier
short spire
seems like it'd be easier
normal aspen
but its just personal pref
true palm
dont you get extra distance from the additional turn around as well?
normal aspen
if ur schmooving yes in theory
normal aspen
wait wtf nopbody bopped me
true palm
as of 2 days ago ye
normal aspen
steady lynx
Bop them back
true palm
if you're interested in cp mms insomnia knows quite a bit about it, but theres 2 types, 1 thats super broken and 1 thats kind of broken
normal aspen
I have a tournament match to procrastinate about practice for
true palm
for the most of the shorter categories, you'll find current patch mms is faster than old mms
steady lynx
Is base patch mms the super broken?
true palm
i was referring to cp, but godhome bench is more broken than no bench version
you can get no clip out of the godhome bench one, among other things
steady lynx
Busted
silk lion
you can get no clip out of the godhome bench one, among other things
among.... US????????
SUS??
true palm
it takes longer to setup though because the time going to the godhome bench on the other file is counted towards game time
so you'll see things like aluba% opt for benchless
particularly since both can go oob in kp
steady lynx
I love watching mms stuff even when I have no idea what is going on
normal aspen
yeah its basically aluba and myla that dont get noclip
true palm
i mean qga is rough, would recommend debug mod if you dont have it
dawn adder
yea i'm using it
true palm
if its blocking you from doing a run just do deepnest route
dawn adder
how much does qga save roughly?
true palm
40s optimally
low bramble
yea it’ll take a good amount of hours of practice to get it consistent
dawn adder
so it would not be worth it if i die and respawn 23 times to get the skip
low bramble
are you running 1221 or current patch
dawn adder
1221
true palm
but since you have to do 3 damage tanks after, dunking 3-4 times is where its not really worth
low bramble
yea don’t feel bad about doing deepnest route to start
digital jewel
villager please don't spam the channel
dawn adder
sorry I shall shrink my cycle to only deathsh
true palm
like im still doing deepnest because i'm too lazy to get consistent at qga
qga does get better
and it feels super satisfying when you get it
dawn adder
thank you for the hope
true palm
my tips for it are as follows 1) audio cues
you want to start the cdash after the whoosh of your dash, and jump at the end of the thud
and 2) visual cues, you want to be cdashing while your eye is touching the acid
as for practice, turn on invincibility, and practice getting the cdash without sliding down and jumping off without sliding on the qga wall
dawn adder
oh ok the eye I was trying to get a vauge sense of when to dash but all i could get is below the horns
true palm
your eye should be touching the acid, it can dip into it but if its under too far you'll be unlikely to jump at the end before dunking
just practice on the qga wall, focus on getting the cdash timing down, the jump timings the easiest part to learn imo
for reference i get qga like 40% of the time and i still dont go for it in runs
steady lynx
Why is the visual for if you are in the acid different for every acid pool?
true palm
because different hitboxes
steady lynx
Couldn't make it consistent
true palm
legeaters acid pool literally has an invisible wall to stop skips
and some pools are lenient because team cherry enjoyed certain acid skips
in particular i think they said they liked the ones by ismas tear
dawn adder
and I'm guessing crossroads -> fog canyon
steady lynx
They're my favourite ones
haughty fossil
acid hitboxes are not water hitboxes unless you have isma's when you enter the room (or the acid is told to change to water ie during isma's tear pickup) - when you don't have isma's its just a hazard hitbox below the surface of the acid
dawn adder
fancéy
steady lynx
If it wasn't for the invisible wall at leg eater 1xx could've potentially had a route that got isma's after white defender
true palm
all in all qga is the hardest one you'll do in any main category
steady lynx
ACN has some spicy acid skips
true palm
te has 3 pretty lax ones, low% does only the first one from any%, all skills has good setups for all of them that are lenient
i said main for a reason
true palm
low% does darknest earlier into the run
steady lynx
Low% goes deepnest early
true palm
so theres tradeoffs
steady lynx
Snail me
onyx spade
dark deepnest or qga, choose 🙂
true palm
darknest isnt that bad
its easier than qga
you just do reps of with lantern without lantern in each room
eventually you'll just learn it
im more comfortable in those rooms in the dark then with lantern at this point
onyx spade
I should really learn darknest at some point, so many meme cats have it
true palm
darknest is a great skill, specially for randos
theres a weaver spawn change on cp though
onyx spade
oh in which room?
true palm
the big one, the one with like weavers and the tree
onyx spade
ah
true palm
ye when you come from the right
you go up this gap
and one weaver is already spawned for whatever reason on cp
and they'll mug you
honestly i think the only really painful part of darknest is trying to get the grub check in the big room
its pretty easy to fall
onyx spade
I think the mask maker climb is v hard
though I have never tried
also I get what you mean about the weaver now
true palm
in any category that gets that grub in the dark (like happy couple), would recommend exiting the room and reentering at the top by qg entrance
ye that weaver is the worst
with dash its not that bad but i think it spawns when you load the room, so it will block the gap by the time you get there
onyx spade
yeah it spawns in instantly
true palm
in 1221 it doesnt spawn until right around when you reach the tunnel on the left
so its a nonissue
anyways deepnest in general is a bit of a coinflip of how much of a pain it can be
sometimes it just does this
as long as you know the spider spawns and can use vs to clear out spiders you should take at most 2 damage
as for as darknest goes its probably one of the more cozy parts of the run imo, you'll lose a lot of time if you screw up and hit spikes, but just knowing the room its a rare occurrence
in terms of practice learning darknest was faster than qga for me personally
shut warren
trying to install the modding api from the speedrun.com guide but the link no longer works, does anyone no of a working one for 1.2.2.1?
true palm
shut warren
<#298798821402607618>
thanks
true palm
heres the latest i found
while ur there recommend picking up timer mod and benchwarp if you havent
lime jungle
Guys i just beat hk on hour 71
dapper cove
Pog
devout wing
any tips on switching from controller to keyboard?
i'll just delete if wrong channel
grizzled maple
Not really. Hk is not a very mechanically precise game. You should use whichever is comfortable. The only way to do that is to just do it a lot.
low bramble
do some rando or try out some mods/bosses to get used to the controls
normal aspen
get socd cleaner and do rando or a category you havent run before
hearty adder
Also if you're used to controller, you may find it easier to use WASD for movement instead of arrows. Also please don't use spacebar for jump or else your thumb will die
bright valve
my keybinds are almost the same, but attack is left click and dash is right click, with focus being F, and super dash etc doesnt matter
normal aspen
please dont use mouse
bright valve
why?
normal aspen
how many buttons doi u have on ur mouse
bright valve
lots, except it only lets me bind to L/R click
normal aspen
coz with the bunds i use i can have one finger each for nail jump dash and quick cast
which is extremely important
also if ur on 1221 mouse will unbind a bunch
bright valve
it never unbinds
haughty fossil
controller players go brrrrr
bright valve
keyboard > controller
haughty fossil
in hk they're equivalent
bright valve
i guess, left/right trigger mustbe nice for dash
haughty fossil
this game isn't really input precise so you can just use what you want 
no matter what half your inputs will be eaten anyway
bright valve
fireball skips go brr
haughty fossil
on 1221 mouse bindings unbind themselves on quitouts, you can use blue.exe in #resources to macro mouse1 and mouse2 to h and t repsectively
bright valve
my mouse bindings never unbind themselves
strong vessel
Am I the only keyboard player that uses default bindings?
bright valve
yes
must be so uncomfortable using x to attack, what if you use WASD and you want to pogo?
haughty fossil
rebind inventory to v but otherwise default is fine
let's try not to be elitist over control style, its honestly a little petty
strong vessel
Yeah, I did that
low bramble
i might switch binds so i can have one finger for dash, nail, and quick cast each
strong vessel
Inv on i is cursed
normal aspen
if ur using defaults ur not gonna be using wasd to move
bright valve
im not judging, i just hated the default
low bramble
after the tourney at least
bright valve
ill put an hour later, changing my keybinds to better ones and practising them in the HoG, what bosses do you recommend?
Maybe TMG
strong vessel
Whatever you want
normal aspen
practicing like fb skips and shit is good too
bright valve
maybe if i get into speedrunning, but for now, ill stick to city crest to get to city of tears
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haughty fossil
This category is intended for competitive speedrunning discussion.
maybe if i get into speedrunning
bright valve
guess i better git gud at speedrunning then
grizzled maple
This specific chat is strictly enforced ontopic
Think of everything under the "speedrunning" category as a separate server essentially.
bright valve
ok, sorry
dark blaze
fuck yes
bright valve
Is that a PB?
dark blaze
yes
with good nkg rng i bet it wouldve been 18:0x or sub 18
he did 2 dives and uppercut
bright valve
Sub 18 would be the world first? thats some serious dedication
haughty fossil
wr is 17:29
dark blaze
yeah wr is like 17 minutes
dark blaze
i showed title screen this time so hopefully
the thing went a bit weird cus i hit a hotkey by accident after it did the final split but that shouldnt be a problem right?
haughty fossil
as long as the timer stopped at the correct time you should be fine
digital jewel
good idea
sage fiber
what is the world record time again?
jagged vault
what category?
strong vessel
32:41
jagged vault
32:41 by Pest
sage fiber
wow that is crazy
jagged vault
strong vessel
Yeah it's insanely good
digital jewel
any% wr is 9:32
stoic sluice
first verified run 
https://www.speedrun.com/hollowknight/run/y2vl4wjz
could i get the role?
ty
next gorge
Hey guys, im trying to set up LiveSplit and im trying to use the autosplitter menu, ive set up my options and they look like this but when I press ok they dont show in my splits. What am I doing wrong?
snow dome
This is the setting for when the timer splits.
The other screen is for what it displays.
next gorge
is there not an automatic splitter, that has it pre-configured?
dapper cove
there might be a splits file you can download
dapper cove
i personally enjoy making my own though
snow dome
But you're on the right track here. You want to finish making these, then just make the layout on the other screen you have before this one.
next gorge
but it doesnt split for you right? you have to press a key or something
snow dome
Basically, yes
I'll give you an example
Just firing up ls
This is a very basic example
next gorge
that makes sense
snow dome
The screen on the right is when you want the timer to split, the screen on the left is your own display
snow dome
Notice here that there's an extra one on the bottom on the display. The timer automatically stops on any ending, so you will have one extra on that left screen than the right
snow dome
It depends on how you're capturing it
dapper cove
depending on your settings it'll be pinned on top
i know with me my ls is pinned on top of whatever i'm doing
next gorge
but when I have HK open it doesnt show the window
snow dome
If you're using OBS then you can just make it display over the top, but if you want to see it you'll need to use HK in Windowed mode
snow dome
Yep
next gorge
last last question
snow dome
Make sure you start Livesplit after you get to the title screen
next gorge
u said it auto stopps on ending
dapper cove
starts and ends automatically if set up properly
hearty adder
"end-triggering autosplit"
dapper cove
if the ending split isn't the end of the game, if you set up the split correctly, it'll stop for you
next gorge
got it
hearty adder
will make the last autosplit stop the timer
snow dome
"end-triggering autosplit"
This needs to be ticked, yeah.
I also highly suggest you put on "Ordered splits"
Some splits don't work unless that's on.
hearty adder
for example, if you activate end-triggering autosplit in an any% split file, it'd make the timer stop at Herrah (or thk scream, whichever your last autosplit is)
hearty adder
And also Ordered Splits is less taxing on cpu iirc
snow dome
Also this, yes
hearty adder
so honestly use that always
snow dome
Yeah, the only time you would ever not use it is if you're not sure what order you're doing things.
Which is.... Unlikely
snow dome
Yeah
next gorge
ok perfect
snow dome
Note that none of the endings have a split
So you'll need to not tick it if you are doing an ending run
next gorge
👍
Will let you know if I have further issues
which I defo will
😄
Can I do windowed borderless?
so I dont have the bar at the top?
stuck raptor
yes. add -popupwindow to game launch options
true palm
steam
next gorge
alright
did
it
testing
wait but it isnt full screen
I can see my taskbar and a gap at the top
stuck raptor
so change game resolution to match your monitor resolution
next gorge
ah got it
s
PERFECT!!!
thank you
Can I remove all of the empty slots in my live split menu?
next gorge
ummm
im in "layout settings"
ah got it
btw u know you said how to record?
did you just mean
like the screen
or something different
true palm
standard software is obs studio
snow dome
Just reset your timer
next gorge
where
snow dome
There's controls when you right click, and you can go into layout settings or whatever to change the keybinds
stoic sluice
?rank speedrun racer
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simple goblet
Is there a way to lower the quality of HK without making the screen smaller. Because the only way I can record without the game lagging is if I make the screen small.
snow dome
There are a couple of settings under video that can help
Lowering the blur quality really helps mine
fair island
change the resolution when the game is in full screen
So it reduces quality rather than change the size
simple goblet
I think that worked once but now when I try that it just keeps it the same quality
drowsy tangle
What's the KP WR? :)
hearty adder
Is there a way to lower the quality of HK without making the screen smaller. Bec...
Have you also tinkered with the recording settings of your recording program? (I assume it's obs?)
simple goblet
Yea I set the quality to 720p and the fps to 30. Which seems like as low as I could go without it looking terrible
drowsy tangle
https://www.speedrun.com/hkmemes/Kings_Pass
Oh, oh damn. That's some godspeed...
hearty adder
Yea I set the quality to 720p and the fps to 30. Which seems like as low as I co...
you can go down to 480p
that's still watchable, the game's artstyle is pretty simple
any lower than that though would probably be too much
which patch is it?
I record cp at 720p/30fps but can only record 1221 at 480p/30fps
dreamy token
where is path of pain speedrun guide
hearty adder
where is path of pain speedrun guide
always make sure to check the speedrun.com guides and resources sections, they are usually very helpful
dapper cove
just realised i have no clue how to do this how do i set it up to where you can see my keyboard inputs on stream
simple goblet
which patch is it?
Current patch.
dark blaze
Nohboard
hearty adder
just realised i have no clue how to do this how do i set it up to where you can ...
you'll need either Nohboard or the Input Overlay obs plugin
dark blaze
I think theres something else with obs you can also use, you can find it on yt
hearty adder
Nohboard requires a window capture + a color key filter to key out the background, the input overlay plugin works with already transparent files
dapper cove
i've finally left slobs for streaming and it's so much nicer
hearty adder
I have overlays specifically for hollow knight, if you want the files
hearty adder
making your own is very confusing at times though; if you ever feel too frustrated, just dm me
i also have the .psd files for tinkering
dapper cove
ok :)
hearty adder
it's mostly about setting up the .ini correctly, that's a pain
dreamy token
ty
dapper cove
yeah i'm trying to get the keyboard to display the way i want it to
i can't get it to just show the keys i use for hk but idk how to do a custom keyboard
dapper cove
yeah that's fine
simple goblet
you'll need either Nohboard or the Input Overlay obs plugin
Does input overlay obs plugin work for mac because I just checked and Nohboard doesn't.
hearty adder
just windows and linux afaik
simple goblet
are there any keyboard overlays that work for mac
true palm
idk of any off the top of my head but if you're a tight cpu budget, probably should stick with the essentials, mainly the timer
saw that you're on mac, recommend this
the standard timer for pc and the autosplitter arent going to work on mac, so thats my recommendation for an alternative
you can pull it up on your phone as well if need be
simple goblet
I've tried Livesplit One buts its not great because It doesn't have global hotkeys
strong vessel
Yeah, I used to play on mac and there's sadly pretty much nothing we can do
Livesplit is just so helpful
true palm
ye i'd recommend having it up on your phone
simple goblet
yea that works but It just can't be on OBS
simple goblet
I'll try it
shut beacon
How many hits does the radiance take in the bit where she shoots swords down from the sky?
I'm doing a true ending run
last inlet
!wiki radiance
sage veldtBOT
last inlet
250 hp so 6 shade souls assuming you're also counting damage from nail
shut beacon
Oki thanks
last inlet
alternatively 5 shade soul hits with 10 nail hits
true palm
oh for te
are you going for doubles -> dreamnail or singles -> full soul
because the former is faster and easier
the latter i do 3 shade souls
last inlet
yeah i should have specified shade soul hits
if you get doubles it's obviously half as many casts
true palm
if you just get full soul, and then go for 3 doubles the phase pushes
alternatively you can go for 2 heals and 2 doubles and you'll end the phase with some extra soul
last inlet
be far away enough
true palm
jump off to the side, pogo spikes and use wings
getting to the right height for doubles is riskier
but saves a considerable amount of time
full soul on the platform phase doesnt matter since she'll always spawn on the bottom center platform and you can farm soul fast
in general recommend playing with hp on for radiance, they push to climb phase at 1300 and start the fight with 3000
then move to trying to predict hp and see how close you are
knotty vigil
can you get speedrunner role for aluba%
hearty adder
yes
you can get the role from any verified speedrun of the game, no matter the category
deep drift
I just did my first speedrun (for the achievements!) and honestly it was harder than I imagined it could be, first time actually having trouble with Watcher Knights and The Hollow Knight, but it was still fun!
hidden citrus
So i wanna get into speedrunning but i don’t have any way to record my runs as i don’t have a computer. Any ideas?
hearty adder
you can record with a phone or other kind of camera
hidden citrus
I didn’t know the leaderboards accepted that
grizzled maple
You also don't even technically need to record if youre just doing it for fun. The server we are moving to soon will not be role locked
Yeah you can upload a file from phone to a place like youtube
hidden citrus
Nah i wanna have the #1 spot for switch as nobody has done any runs there
grizzled maple
Run that by me again
As the person who routed and ran the switch categories to inspire people to run it i am very interested in what you meant
hidden citrus
You could just record a normal playtrough and count it as a speedrun
grizzled maple
Have you seen the leaderboard or...?
hidden citrus
Like an hour ago
hearty adder
hidden citrus
Wait lemme check
grizzled maple
Every category has been run. Some are kind of well optimized for what they are
hidden citrus
Oh i had it on low%
grizzled maple
Low% has been run
Also low% is extremely hard
Thats why only trombone has done it
You cannot just do any playthrough for that
grizzled maple
Thats not console first of all
hearty adder
<:quirrelmonocle:734531771319713853>
referring back to my own screenshot here
grizzled maple
All console runs are under the console tab because of timing method. It wouldn't be fair to share a board
PC can do loadless
bright valve
Whats the viability of getting Fotf in the current NMG route? I feel that it would be a time save given the amount of bosses required to beat the game, especially WK's, and it may even be possible for a one cycle uumuu, not sure if you would need sharpened nail for that though?
digital jewel
no, one cycle is very not possible
uumuu has 300 hp
as for fury in general, getting it is very slow, overcharming animation is really slow and you lose some damage tanks as well
so overall it only saves time if it lets you get a faster uumuu cycle
grizzled maple
Fury is only an increase from 5 > 9 on base nail and 9 > 16 on nail 1
Its very negligible damage compared to spells
digital jewel
with current strats fury would be worth it for current patch in order to get a 2 cycle uumuu
but not worth it for 1221
also using "worth it" assuming you can actually play optimally with fury
frank obsidian
How much does VS with SS do?
verbal stag
20
grizzled maple
20
bright valve
20
grizzled maple
Dang mobile
frank obsidian
And base is 15 iirc
verbal stag
yes
grizzled maple
Fury is worth it in spelless 
bright valve
16 damage from sharpened nail and Fotf is only 4 less than a spell, i understand its not viable for the current route, but it could theoretically make uumuu faster, meh
grizzled maple
You also need to take into account overcharming like xero said because spells will still be dps and also the time it would take to
-get fury
-get the money for the upgrade (usually a journal)
-get the upgrade which changes relic routing to a slower one
-hits to get into fury
frank obsidian
Fury is worth it in spelless <:PES_Happy:493353112493621258>
ESPECIALLY for the Baulder part
grizzled maple
Its just a massive time sink. You probably don't even come close to breaking even in a theoretical one cycle uumuu
bright valve
thats true, but hits to fury dont matter as you can still damage boost to where you want to go on enemies. The rest is fair though
digital jewel
also since you're overcharmed you can only take 2 hits
frank obsidian
No you lose time on hits. The screen freezes
Like getting hit in general?
grizzled maple
Yes getting hit loses time in this game
bright valve
i respectfully withdraw my argument
digital jewel
this loses time in the herrah segment where you want to ideally do 3 damage tanks
frank obsidian
this loses time in the herrah segment where you want to ideally do 3 damage tank...
Also getting hit by a Devout incorrectly here would WIPE your health (Like TE runners when they bump into a Birthplace sibling)
dreamy bough
and unovercharming is slow
grizzled maple
This is a really ancient route idea btw
ionic sparrow
getting hit by a devout wrong is like incredibly rare
grizzled maple
People have talked about it for actual years
ionic sparrow
its really easy to do the dmg rotation on them
frank obsidian
getting hit by a devout wrong is like incredibly rare
If you're me, it's incredibly common
dreamy bough
also note that spells have one huge advantage, they're ranged. you don't need to stick to uumuu to do your damage
bright valve
especially with shaman stone
hearty adder
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acoustic turret
what happened to my message?
knotty vigil
how long does it take for my run to get verified
acoustic turret
idk
frank obsidian
how long does it take for my run to get verified
Anywhere from 3 hours to 3 days to 3 weeks. You really can't pinpoint it.
One of my runs was verified in under 3 hours, while another took ~1.5 weeks
hearty adder
you just gotta be patient. you'll get a notification on speedrun.com once it has been verified
potent mountain
how long does it take for my run to get verified
depends, verifiers and the like have lives so people might be verifying right now or it may end up later in the day / tomorrow depending on where you are
knotty vigil
okay
frank obsidian
you just gotta be patient. you'll get a notification on speedrun.com once it has...
Yes, and then u get excited when u see a notif and it's like "So and so made a proposal: Die%"
knotty vigil
is it allowed to contact src mods? just curious
potent mountain
not for a verify, cause they know runs get submitted so theyll get to it
knotty vigil
alr
digital jewel
we are aware of when runs get submitted yes
potent mountain
when its verified you can usually tag A SRC mod to get the SR role, link the run along with the tag, mods can give the role too
frank obsidian
Die% would be awesome impractical
digital jewel
it'll get verified after any older runs are verified
bright valve
how long does it take for my run to get verified
when silksong releases probably a few days
low bramble
you can pay the mods/verifiers off to get it done quicker
bright valve
wait really
knotty vigil
the wait commences
bright valve
whats that speedrun for? Salubra?
hearty adder
whats that speedrun for? Salubra?
You kill the aluba in Greenpath
bright valve
then thats kinda rng on where it spawns over the lake of unn
good thing the speedruns only like 10 minutes
frank obsidian
OMFG im dumb. In my Aluba% I sit there for 30 seconds like an idiot waiting for it 
snow dome
wait why does it say thats the time without loads
Without loads means the game time rather than real time
If you used LiveSplit, it will be time without loads (game time) rather than actual time (real time).
bright valve
using time with loads would be unfair on those with a bad pc/console
snow dome
Yeah, consoles can't be timed without loads so they each have their own board.
Because two different PS4's should -generally- perform the same.
slate phoenix
Is squit skip in greenpath a major glitch
hearty adder
what do you mean?
slate phoenix
Meant glitch
verbal stag
its not a glitch, no
digital jewel
short answer no
hearty adder
you're just pogoing a squit to reach a higher place, nothing glitchy about it
digital jewel
long answer you could read the rules or watch a run to answer that question
slate phoenix
Okay cause im tryna get into speedrunning currrent patch any% nmg
slate phoenix
Watch runs of that category then for inspiration
I already have a route
jagged vault
All you need is in the pins and on srcom
bright valve
greenpath squit skip is honestly better than the fireball skip for a casual speedrunner, it still saves lots of time and its easy as hell
molten aurora
Even as a casual speedrunner, it's good to try for the fb skip and use the squit as a backup.
knotty vigil
where would i go to import splits so i don't have to do it manually?
digital jewel
do you mean opening up a splits file you've downloaded?
knotty vigil
i think? but i don't know where to find a splits file
digital jewel
well someone can send you one for the category you want?
or there are some pinned in various channels here
knotty vigil
ok
ionic cargo
if you were running on 1.4.3.2 and the patch number is blurry, could you just have the background as the godmaster background and get the run verified?
frank cobalt
is there a new version of modinstaller I need or something? Every time I try to run mine it quickly flashes a window then closes
and I don't see any background task for it running in my task manager
hm, seems to have worked!
thanks Alprechim
knotty vigil
I'm doing my first all skills run soon! hopefully it goes okay
molten aurora
Thank you livesplit, very cool.
hot latch
Anyone got any tips for doing the double fireball hit on thk in cp?
potent mountain
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knotty vigil
my first all skills run ended with the dark room in crystal peaks
is there any alternate routes to avoid dark room?
potent mountain
you cannot avoid dark room
knotty vigil
damn guess i'll have to practice it
verbal stag
if you learn the cdash strat its not bad at all
last inlet
there are some fairly safe cdashes you can use
potent mountain
you can do the cdash thing which is just cdashing off of like every platform
knotty vigil
ok
last inlet
like i managed to get through it pretty fast with just cdash off everything into dash if i dont land on a platform and walljump when you hit a wall
if you apply that to every platform you land on it works
elfin vortex
Cdash dark room is safe and quick to learn. Just dash to first plat, jump and shoot a fireball. Jump and dash into the wall on the left and cdash from there. Then yh just cdash from atop every plat u hit
That being said is there a video on jonis dark room that I can watch that explains it?
Having trouble with it rn
rain quarry
so I just got the HK downpatch to 1.2.2.1 and it's not detecting my controller, does 1.2.2.1 have Dualshock 4 controller support or is something strange going on?
knotty vigil
How do you spike tunnel?
leaden python
if you're talking about the one from All Skills then I recommend you to watch tutorial video by pisces. The whole playlist should be in guides section on speedrun.com
desert kiln
just ran a test and i can now beat wk with any%nmg gear 30% of the time. a lot better than a month ago when i started running and grinded them for 6 hours straight and didn't beat them a single time
leaden python
yeah that's how I started running this game actually. I did a whole day of WK practice, then started a run next day, killed them like some try, and then was dying in the infected vengefly room for an hour and decided that any% is not for me
hallow orchid
Damn that's my story vali except I kept doing any% until I finally did rando and saw the light
You were a wiser man than I
desert kiln
My first run I did I died in infected vengefly but I just finished the run anyway since the bench is just a stag away
But it took me ages to beat wk
They’re still super hard
short spire
i feel that on the infected vengefly room
iirc on my first attempt it took me 3 hours to beat wk then i lost my shade in the infected vf room and was like fuck this im learning 106
desert kiln
They move so fast and are so annoying
And when you get hit by them you realize how short your i-frames are
leaden python
stories like this is why we try to convince people not to use any% route for their 5 hours achievo runs
"wr is just 32 minutes, I bet 5 hours is free". Well yeahhhh.......
desert kiln
...but wr is crazy hard to do and takes thousands of hours of dedication
So you probably shouldn’t go that route for 5 hours lol
flint dragon
I was going for 5 hour achevment and got sub 4 hours lmao
im not shure if thats impressive at all
leaden python
we're happy if you're happy
flint dragon
ok
molten aurora
I got tired of missing the hornet fb skip in runs, so I've been practicing it for about 2 hours non-stop, now about 50% of the time I can hit the skip with 1 fb
grizzled maple
gaming
low bramble
productive practice? that's a skill beyond me
vital geyser
im trying to optimize my recording settings. does lowering the audio bitrate make a difference?
strong vessel
Cdash dark room is safe and quick to learn. Just dash to first plat, jump and sh...
Joni's dark room can be skipped entirely on 112; you can just do it after banishment (with the lantern) instead and it only loses like 2 seconds
You are learning 112, right? If I remember correctly
rain quarry
okay so I've been trying to download patch 1.2.2.1 to start learning the any% nmg run, but the steam downpatcher isn't working and it's giving me this error, can anyone help?
uneven pike
I got tired of missing the hornet fb skip in runs, so I've been practicing it fo...
wait you can do it with 1 fb?
molten aurora
uneven pike
ill take that as a yes
ynow what would be really cool to see
if it doesnt exist alr
a hollow knight tas
play the game with degub mod
timescale to like 1/10th speed
and splice rooms
molten aurora
I think because HK is made with unity it's near impossible to tas.
A segmented speedrun would be really cool though.
uneven pike
a segmented one with timescale to make it easier for the player to do really hard stuff
i might work on that
im not incredible skilled, but you dont need skill when the game is on 10% speed
or at least not all that much
short spire
doing a segmented run with rooms done at 1/10 speed would probably take a longer time to do than doing it without timescale
its already a ridiculous amount of work even without that
uneven pike
yea but wouldnt it possible to perform literally perfect rooms
molten aurora
But then you'd have to used to the 10x slower speed, and relearn all the timings at that speed. On top of what ax said of it taking an absurd amount of time.
vocal dove
i..... thats a parry PR
knotty vigil
Does anybody know any good timers for MacBook
molten aurora
As far as I know, the autosplitter doesn't work on mac, you can still use livesplit, but you'll just need to use real time. Feel free to correct me.
knotty vigil
I can’t run it on my Mac, as it doesn’t have the ability to run the .exe
uneven scarab
Mac is heck to play on tbh
knotty vigil
yeah but I don’t have anything else which sucks
uneven scarab
But I would say 1hr30min is good for all skills, 40min for any%
onyx spade
yeah I play on a macbook but run windows through bootcamp
normal aspen
sub 40 any% is prob more like sub 1h all skills
true palm
considering you most likely wont be downpatching on mac i'd be be aiming for something more like sub 50 rta in any% and avoiding all skills
as for timers @knotty vigil would recommend you check out livesplit one, its a timer you can pull up on your phone (https://one.livesplit.org/) and this is one that i've heard of exists, never tested it because i dont have a mac (https://revenantkioku.itch.io/time-split-tracker-os-x)
my personal recommendation would be to use bootcamp or some other program to install windows on your mac, and use that
molten aurora
Re learning spike tunnel with slightly different inputs, I've been here for ~30 minutes and I'm still not super consistent
stray kestrel
Re learning spike tunnel with slightly different inputs, I've been here for ~30 ...
idk if youve seen this one, but colliemonster has a different setup for the spike tunnel that's slightly slower but is more consistent for her https://www.twitch.tv/videos/973602425?t=00h39m47s
elfin vortex
Joni's dark room can be skipped entirely on 112; you can just do it after banish...
Oh cool thats relieving. Since im quite new to speedrunning hk 112 I guess I could pick up the dark room strat as a minor improvement once the rest of my run is good
elfin vortex
yeah but I don’t have anything else which sucks
Livesplit can be run through WINE on mac but the autosplit feauture will not work unless you switch to windows through bootcamp
If u have an m1 then ur out of options unless ur willing to play through a vm or manually split the timesq
bright valve
how precise is the spike tunnel skip? i cant recreate whatever witchcraft colliemonster just did
steady lynx
On 1221 it can become annoying if you have a lot of freeze frames