#speedrunning

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solid gull
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I'm try harding every section of the run for now.

steady lynx
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That won't go well

strange gale
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I am trying to get sub 44, did you use any inventory drops in your pb run?

grand elm
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nop

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and i even failed greenpath fireball skip and comfy pogo

strange gale
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Both fireball skips or just 1

grand elm
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both

strange gale
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I fail 2nd one most of the time

grand elm
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i don't even go for the second, i go for the backup on the other side

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annd i missed it as well

strange gale
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Yeah i do too after i fail it lol

grand elm
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shit early game

strange gale
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Damn

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Why dont you have speedrunner role

grand elm
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the only run i submitted i forgot to capture the main menu at the start so the run was invalidated

strange gale
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Wow

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Feels bad man

grand elm
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should have payed more attention when reading the rules hehe

last inlet
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from personal experience if you're making the first but not the second fireball skip you likely need to jump later for the second

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it's not quite as important on the first bc there's no platform above you on that skip

grand elm
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i suck a lot at fireball skips for some reason

last inlet
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fireball skips are pretty hard tbf

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if you can send a clip i might be able to help

grand elm
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let me see if i still have one somewhere

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nop
i've been using triple fireball setups a lot recently, and i struggle way less with it
but it also means i can't go for the fireball skip after

last inlet
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the second fireball skip only saves 2 seconds over the backup

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if you can make the first consistently with 3, it's better to fireball skip there and do the backup than fail it, get the squit backup and make the second

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especially if you aren't consistent at the second fireball skip

grand elm
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ye, it's what i'm doing for now

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thanks dynouhFlower

deep kernel
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sloppy run cause I died at wk and forgot to sit at dirtmouth bench but overall quite happy with the result, especially THK

knotty vigil
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Bottom % yust reach the lowest part of the map

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As fast as posible

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So get the kingsoul and go to the brithpace

digital jewel
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no

jagged vault
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That’s called True Ending NMG

last inlet
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except without the fun bit at the end

normal aspen
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Bottom% is just kill Xero

frank obsidian
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When ur on PB pace but u forgot to plug in ur computer 🥴

frank obsidian
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Okay let's say hypothetically I record my zoomies while streaming on Discord to my boi Warlordofdawest. As long as I dont have a capture for Discord set up on OBS, you won't hear him critiquing my every movement input, right?

hearty adder
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Yes you would

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Obs is capturing the pc audio as a whole

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If you wanna capture only a specific source's, you'd need another program

frank obsidian
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heck

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Ill tell him to shut

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or just lower his user volume lol

true palm
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having discord buddies is fine as long as they have an appropriate volume

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like pop world record has Schy and Gwonkee chatting

frank obsidian
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cool

thorny eagle
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Or even if my computer will agree to twitch stream

frank obsidian
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new src mods pog

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congrats doveless and 56

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ok so for some reason obs isnt capturing hk

molten aurora
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In sources, make sure you're using 'game capture'.

leaden python
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game capture or window capture don't really matter, but it should be one of those

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also, if you're doing game capture, make sure that you launch hk before any other application that are reading video buffer (such as riva tuner statistics server, for example)

molten aurora
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Window capture only works if the game is windowed though right? Because I know window capture doesn't work for me.

solid gull
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You can set a specific game display that only can show Hollow knight, you have to have it running in the background when you're setting it

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Via game capture

leaden python
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window capture works for fullscreen windows for me

solid gull
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Yea but if you close the game while you're streaming wont it turn the screen black ?

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Or show your desktop ?

leaden python
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if I close the game when I'm streaming, it will turn the screen black. But when I open the game again it'll capture it just fine

solid gull
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I guess it works for you, with game capture it wont turn black though

digital jewel
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I think they mean minimising it during a run

solid gull
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During a run or when streaming

leaden python
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minimizing the game during the run will just freeze the frame you're minimizing on, it won't turn the screen black in my case

solid gull
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Oh ok

digital jewel
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it also doesn't matter if the game is windowed

leaden python
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yeah

solid gull
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You can do both then

leaden python
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yes we are

solid gull
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I might sound dumb ^^" but what does it do ?

hearty adder
last inlet
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you want to hit the lever sooner

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ie with a smaller jump

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the mantis is getting too close to you so you can't pogo off it

hearty adder
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gotcha, thank you grubhappy

solid gull
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Enorax I love you I was also stuck there 0-0

soft briar
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Hi guys! I started playing Hollow Knight a few months ago and I really want to speedrun it (I don't want to go for an hour or even less, under 10 hours would be more than enough). I prepared the timer using LiveSplit, I watched some speedruns and stuff like that, there's only one thing: my pc is soooooo fucking slow. Also i probably won't be able to use OBS because my 8 year old pc would explode. So, I have two questions: first, are there any recording programs that don't require a God-Tier pc? Second, are there any mods or anything I can do to make Hollow Knight go faster? (Of course if these mods aren't allowed in speedruns I'm not going to use them)

hearty adder
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Well, OBS doesn't really require god-tier pc, so your options are very limited tamershrug

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Are you playing on current patch?

low bramble
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try recording at a lower resolution

soft briar
hearty adder
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I figure you could use something like fraps to record your whole screen if you can't find a solution at all

hearty adder
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What are your obs settings?

soft briar
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i don't even have it but they would be the lowest possible

hearty adder
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Recording with a phone or camera is also acceptable

solid gull
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You can also disable Vsinc and particles if you didn't do that (in the game)

soft briar
hearty adder
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Phone or camera recordings can be decent, many people use those

soft briar
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i'll think about it then

soft briar
solid gull
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It's a thing that prevent a rare display bug that could happen if your monitor has a good refresh rate but you don't have enough Fps. If you have like 15 fps and a good monitor it could make the game display weird for like one or two frames, but I find it playable without.

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It synchronise the framerate and the refresh rate of your monitor

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Yea

dreamy bough
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generally vsync is going to make hk run smoother if you have a terrible pc, tho

solid gull
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Depends because if he got a good monitor and low fps then I'll do nothing.

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Vsync can only lower Fps to match the refresh rate soo

dreamy bough
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it'll be better than having no limiter

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definitely get rivatuner and cap your fps tho

solid gull
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Oh thanks ! (I play on controller though)

soft briar
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where can I find it? It would be cool to have it

solid gull
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Yea, Fire-ball skips are fairly easy with a controller, I heard that with a keyboard it was super hard

soft briar
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thank you!

digital jewel
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well the reason it's not a problem on controllers is that the analog stick or dpad are each just one complete piece

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so it's physically impossible to hold opposite directions

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only on some uncommon 3rd-party controllers will you find separate buttons for the dpad

dreamy bough
solid gull
fast bolt
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Does anyone have some tips for someone who wants to start speedrunning on ps4?

true palm
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60fps also means you can use vsync explosion pogo without changing any settings, so you are all good there

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i recommend you run any%, as it will be the most cohesive and easiest to learn on current patch

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if you go to speedrun.com you can find lots of great resources

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as for some differences for running console:

  1. you dont have access to livesplit which is the timer pc runners use. however your times will be compared other ps4 runners so you're all good there. in addition, timing starts on file select
  2. for recording, you can record your tv with your phone, no need for a capture card, as long as game audio is there and you can see the gameplay
  3. console doesnt have access to as many practice tools, but i'd look into learning how to backup saves to the cloud so you can use them for practice
fast bolt
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Ok I think I understood. Thank you 🙂

leaden python
frank obsidian
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When ur on track to get a good AS CP run, you get to Hornet 2 with 2 hrs, and finally give up at 3 grubsad

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RIP 4 hours

brittle valley
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I've been following that but I can't find if there is any info if there is an error, so just can't progress + don't wanna do the other version of downgrading because of the reason listed in that post.

digital jewel
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wdym you don't want to do the other version?

dark blaze
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Is there any way to get consistent constant DPS on winged nosk, his hitbox is so scuffed and it just ends all my good paces

frank obsidian
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When I first got to P5, SoB was pretty easy to get down constantly. Winged Nosk? Harder than abs Rad for a while

dark blaze
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Talking about p5 speedruns

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It's not hard, it's just annoying since he just flies to the other side of the room every attack and flies away from you

hallow orchid
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I can't speak for fury strats but in 112 I've found that incorporating a lot more shrieks is helpful

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you can go for doubles with shade soul and get three nail slashes in on each sweep attack

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but I find shriek after nail hits to be better. If you need more nail swings because fury strats I'm not sure

dark blaze
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Ic

brittle valley
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but if the first version doesn't work I'll bite the bullet

digital jewel
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what was the problem exactly with the first version

brittle valley
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Mentioned in my previous post, the problem is that the Depot Download keeps failing, error writing chunk in the Stream Console.

digital jewel
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do you have room on your hard drive?

brittle valley
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Yeah

digital jewel
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does it fail immediately?

frank obsidian
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New AllSkills Current Patch NMG WR! By valgnatev! 57m 04s!

ionic cargo
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eyy shroompog

frank obsidian
shrewd shoal
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Congrats to valgnatev! shroompog

grand elm
leaden python
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now I'm even more sad for missing 56, because 56 verified my run grubsad

digital jewel
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wtf

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how could you

leaden python
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56 will you verify my run if I get 56? 👀

stiff delta
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gotta get a 56 in 4ms now

dark blaze
hearty adder
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Absolutely destroyed the 19 hollowD

frank obsidian
dark blaze
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I failed collector and WD skip so theres more room for improvement

honest folio
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wp hunt ax2uHappy

dark blaze
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white defender

signal meadow
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oh lol

dark blaze
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i missed his scream skip which is important for him cus hes bulky

signal meadow
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yeah collecter scream skip is so important you can take like 1/3 of his health

stone flame
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Hello! I would like the speedrunner role please, I have a verified All Skills run.

hearty adder
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Please link it here

stone flame
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Oh ok

steady lynx
digital jewel
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nice mms

jagged vault
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console?

steady lynx
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Didn't think it was possible on console

leaden python
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why would it be impossible on console, it's TC we're talking about feelspkman

steady lynx
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Okay, I think I got rid off it, back to resetting early game

hallow orchid
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I thought that part was possible but you couldn't do the next part where you select the new file because cursor

digital jewel
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yeah

brittle valley
frank obsidian
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yes

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val got it!

cyan tendon
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any chance I could g et a speedrunning tag so I could chat in the sr channels?

dark blaze
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You need to submit a run to src

cyan tendon
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i see

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yes thank you

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❤️

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I recently downpatched to 1221, and steam is having trouble recognizing my switch controller. it can read my directional inputs from the controller, but is forcing me to use the keyboard to do actions (jump, slash, etc.) has anyone else run into this problem?

stark birch
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switch pro controller isn't natively supported on patches before godhome; if you want to play the game on an earlier patch you need to use a program like joy2key to bind your switch controls to keyboard inputs

neon island
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I used to use switch controller and have never had that specific thing happen

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But yeah, switch pro wasn't supported back then

frank cobalt
cyan tendon
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thank you ❤️

mild moon
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Yes Rhino

misty trellis
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Is there anyway to keep the splitlist for livesplit without having the timer visible
I want to use the autosplitter for hitless runs, but I have no use for the timer

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and it kind of sucks to see a bunch of red splits

neon island
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Yep, you can just remove the "Timer" component in the Layout settings in LiveSplit

digital jewel
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there's a hit counter program that hitless runners use

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that's not livesplit

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maybe this is more your thing

misty trellis
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I couldn't find a way to make HitCounter split automatically

misty trellis
digital jewel
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oh yeah there's no way to have autosplit

true palm
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just set all your golds to 0 or something and then change the color idk

digital jewel
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benji what you can do is override the colour so that everything is the same

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ahead, behind, whatever

misty trellis
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Yeah I could try that, thanks

true palm
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and then on obs you could just crop out the left portion

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i mean right

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so you could just move it up like this i guess

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and then not have the bottom section

misty trellis
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Yeah, the only downside is the counter number is also on the far right

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but maybe I can move that

misty trellis
digital jewel
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hold alt

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and drag the sides of the box

misty trellis
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Beautiful

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Thank you

molten aurora
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About 4 mins of really dumb time loss, I'm amazed I even pb'd tbh.

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Rip sub hour.

dapper cove
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you got this i believe

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did you die at broken vessel?

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you lost a lot of time there

molten aurora
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Haha, I died in ismas after getting the tear, so I had to do the spike tunnel again to get my shade.

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As I said, really dumb time loss feelspkman

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I honestly think just leaving my shade in there for the rest of the run might have been smarter.

dapper cove
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oh yeah that's a fat rip

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this may be dumb of me to ask but if you knew you were about to die couldn't you have SQ?

haughty fossil
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leaving the shade would mean you wouldn't have geo for bv bench

dapper cove
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or would that have lost more time?

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bc you could go straight to the drop

haughty fossil
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you never intend to die, and s&q is always timeloss so tamershrug

molten aurora
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I didn't realise I was gonna die, I got trapped by pufferfish.

dapper cove
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yes but i don't mean if he intended to die, i meant more if he saw that death was imminent

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gotcha

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that happened to me once at ismas

molten aurora
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But yeah I could have s&q, but it only would have saved around 30s running all the way back from lurien was the big time loss.

dapper cove
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i was on two hearts at the final room before grabbing ismas

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i made the jump, my shade was there, and my shade + a hwurmp knocked me into the acid

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so i got double hit and lost everything

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you were there for that actually

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now that i think about it

molten aurora
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Yeah, I remember that, that was a really sad death.

dapper cove
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it hurt so much

molten aurora
dapper cove
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i had tears welling up in my eyes after that one

molten aurora
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Ismas tears pepogrub

dapper cove
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i wanted to quit but i wasn't about to let myself give up after getting as far into the run as i did

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sure we'll call it that

steady lynx
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Highlights of today's runs;
Got torch game during vibration storage
Got my first 1:26 KP which probably is good for console
Died to WK like six times total

digital jewel
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vibration storage

steady lynx
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Sometimes when I leave the FK room the screen keeps shaking, Idk why

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It disappears when I enter mound

dapper cove
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fun

molten aurora
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You know the game is 🍝 when storage starts happening irl feelspkman

dapper cove
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i think my best ever KP was like 58

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it's normally around exactly 1 min to 1:06 ish

molten aurora
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Console has a heap of timeloss before kp due to no load remover. Do we know how much time it is exactly?

steady lynx
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fade in at 29

molten aurora
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Imagine having to wait 30s before each attempt then just resetting at kp milliS

steady lynx
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Around 200 resets like that total

frank obsidian
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Can I record my friend's speedrun through discord screenshare and then send it to him and he submits it?

molten aurora
digital jewel
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what fluffy

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why would you do it in such a convoluted way

frank obsidian
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Because his parents think OBS is malware

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im not even joking

molten aurora
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Hmmmmmmmmmm.

frank obsidian
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Like they though Steam was a computer virus at one point

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okay im sorry i was just answering xero

steady lynx
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Game runs at like 30fps and drops almost every input

tardy sable
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false knight so fat that even the next room over is shaking

dapper cove
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yummy screen shake

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he got that fat dumpy

steady lynx
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As opposed to 60fps and dropping almost every input like the console version usually does

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Seriously, how do people main any%? This category is ass

molten aurora
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Those split names are cursed.

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But that was a nice kp.

steady lynx
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I will never explain my split names or why I keep using Bidoof as thumbnail

molten aurora
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I don't mind numbering them, but 'split 9' hurts me inside a little.

steady lynx
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Split 10 is named split 10 as well

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Spore Shroom split is named "Split nine point five"

molten aurora
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I would have been happier not knowing that grubsad

normal aspen
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Owning a switch is great because no matter how much pc hk tilts me I know it can always get worse

steady lynx
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Wait, can the screenshake storage not happen on PC?

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This is bs, makes the console version almost unrunnable

molten aurora
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Something tells me fixing the screenshake storage wouldn't make console runnable feelspkman

steady lynx
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I'm living proof as to why running on the console version is a bad idea

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Oh my run got approved shroompog
Thanks Xero grublove

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And thanks Jamie for the any% approve

worthy sluice
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I really appreciate all the love my category is getting

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So are you telling me if I were to run on PC with loads my time would still improve Cuz console just is bad?

hearty adder
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i mean, it depends on your pc

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if your pc is good, then yes

worthy sluice
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Yeah i mean its a standard .1 second delay

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Nothin’ huge

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Still better than stadia

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Because My inputs could make it to mars before a stadia picks them up

hushed orchid
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How do you preform the fast fall?

grizzled maple
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Pins

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Unless you mean a different type of drop

hushed orchid
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Inventory fast fall.

grizzled maple
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Then yes pins

hushed orchid
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Explain?

grizzled maple
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Click the pin button at the top right of the chat

hushed orchid
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Oh NVM... Dumb moment

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Ok. Thx.

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I saw on some speedruns people could move when they fell into kings pass. How does that happen? Or is that something else?

neon island
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That is different

grizzled maple
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Thats a pause for early control which is also pre lifeblood update

neon island
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You pause and unpause the game quickly to gain control

hushed orchid
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Oh. Ok. Thx.

molten aurora
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2 runs, 2 pbs shroompog

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After a week of playing like total garbage, it's nice to see I am actually making progress grubhappy

knotty vigil
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i just realized why it didn't split last time in beasts den...

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i forgot to get rid of the queens garden split in the autosplitter settings

dire walrus
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Uh

median gull
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oh sorry for the ping

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57.1 equivalent on computer

knotty vigil
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i completed my first recorded run!

molten aurora
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Congrats!

knotty vigil
molten aurora
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Any accidental glitches that provide no benefit, should be fine.

true palm
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rule of thumb, if the glitch isnt helpful you are unlikely to be penalized, and the storage got canceled immediately

knotty vigil
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yeah i knew it probably wouldn't be bad but i still needed to confirm

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im also a little hesitant to submit it cause i died TWICE in beasts den and im a little embarrassed about it

jaunty anvil
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also that isnt a mjor glitch

molten aurora
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I do know the feeling though grubsad

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My last 2 pbs have had deaths in them, so I'm not submitting them.

neon island
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Just means timesave for next run :)

true palm
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fam i think i died 5 times to watcher knights on my first submitted run

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its about the journey

knotty vigil
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with all the deaths i still managed a 53:08

molten aurora
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That's really good.

knotty vigil
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without the deaths i probably could have gotten sub 50

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yeah 53:08 is still a minute better than my previous pb

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but im still thinking about what could have been if i hadn't died

molten aurora
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And next time, don't die it beasts den, easy sub 50 shroompog

knotty vigil
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true

molten aurora
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Don't focus on what could have been, you pb'd now, and that's awesome.

knotty vigil
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thanks

molten aurora
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(At least that's what I'm telling myself after choking 2 sun hour AS runs in a row)

knotty vigil
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i normally get really hung up on the early game

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which is a bad habit i know

molten aurora
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Even fire, monstah, pest, all the top runners, there's always things they wont be happy about it runs, even in WRs. Downside of being a speedrunner grubsad

knotty vigil
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yeah

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i usually reset if my early game isn't perfect

hallow orchid
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a pb with something catastrophically wrong in it is great because then your next run you can make 100 mistakes and be like "yeah but I can save 2 mins in beasts den"

molten aurora
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When starting out, finishing as many runs as possible is a really good idea, even if you have a garbage early game.

knotty vigil
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thats true

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im excited for the time saves next run

dapper cove
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my only case where i was worried was when i accidentally slid when going down the abyss

molten aurora
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Typing is hard

dapper cove
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i'm going to be very mad if that invalidates my run though bc that was my pb in AS

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even though I died three times ish in the abyss

knotty vigil
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should i submit my run? like what if i get a better time tomorrow and the verifiers have to watch another run? i don't want to waste their time

dapper cove
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i'd still submit it

molten aurora
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They just look at the faster run, go for it, submit it and become blue shroompog

dapper cove
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i don't like waiting on "what ifs" to come true

knotty vigil
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ok imma submit it now

dapper cove
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poggg

knotty vigil
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if i can figure out how

dapper cove
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you gotta have a recording of the run, the in game time and real time, and that's basically it

knotty vigil
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yeah i have those

molten aurora
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(The recording must include the title screen .............)

dapper cove
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and in the recording make sure you see the title screen

neon island
dapper cove
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yeah i accidentally submitted a run without the title screen bc of clipping the full stream

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so i just made a new clip and submitted that

knotty vigil
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how long do i need to show the title screen for?

dapper cove
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you just need to see it

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doesn't matter how long for

molten aurora
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I submitted a run without the title screen, but it wasn't on twitch, so it was just a dead recording feelspkman

dapper cove
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bc on the title screen you can tell if mods are being used

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so the top left of the title screen is the part they want to see

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and also the bottom left for the patch being used

molten aurora
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You can tell on save and quits too, I think it might be more for the patch #

knotty vigil
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ok i have a fps counter in the top left of the screen is that ok?

dapper cove
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just wanted to help while taking my break from homework i'm off again

void stratus
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Is QGA different on current patch?

neon island
verbal stag
void stratus
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damnit I thought it was the game but it's just me. It's so hard

molten aurora
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Hypothetical here, let's say I was really dumb and forgot to record the title screen, but I realized mid run. Would it be fine to record through the credits and show it after the run, and let the verifiers know in the comments?

true palm
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unfortunately no goose

void stratus
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No I understand ( :

true palm
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unless its an IL (like pantheons, pop)

molten aurora
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Haha, all good.

molten aurora
true palm
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unrecorded/unverifiable pbs are unfortunate but still something to be proud of

void stratus
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Oh my I just practice QGA for like 30 minutes and didn't realise I didn't have C dash

hallow orchid
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If you're on current patch and taking deepnest route anyway, pick up spore shroom for thk. It only loses like 20s or so at that point (maybe even will save time for you if your thk is bad)

void stratus
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I'm going for like 40-45 minutes so timelosses are ok

hallow orchid
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Yeah grab spore shroom and take deepnest route if you want then it's much comfier

knotty vigil
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is it possible to submit a run without having a youtube/twitch link?

hallow orchid
#

The run needs to be hosted somewhere permanent but it doesn't have to be twitch/youtube necessarily

knotty vigil
#

what else could i use?

neon island
#

bilibili is used a bit

hallow orchid
#

^

true palm
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bilibili, lbry, odysse, bichute, cant think of any other major ones

hallow orchid
#

But yeah also you can just upload them to yt unlisted

knotty vigil
#

but theres no way to upload it from my computer im assuming

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like from my files

hallow orchid
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No src can't host videos

knotty vigil
#

ill just make an unlisted yt video

hallow orchid
#

Yeah that works

true palm
#

either way the runs going to be public to an extent, since anybody can click on your profile and watch any run you do

knotty vigil
#

yeah

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ok im gonna sound dumb, but i don't know how to upload a yt video

true palm
#

its not hard

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see the little camera with the plus

knotty vigil
#

i think i figured it out?

true palm
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you just click on that

knotty vigil
#

yeah i did that just now

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i think i can figure out the rest

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oh god this is gonna take a while

true palm
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uploading can take a while depending on internet speed dont worry about it

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just dont close the tab

molten aurora
#

If upload times are an issue, you can always lower your obs setting and turn your recordings into a potato.

true palm
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you can still copy the link and finish the submission process on src

knotty vigil
#

im gonna wait for it to be done uploading just in case

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do i need to set a date for my vid to be published or can i just leave that blank?

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sorry ive never done this before

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ah ok

devout wing
#

yeahh boii menu dropping in cp

analog monolith
molten aurora
#

Oh, speaking of inventory dropping, do you want to close your inventory before you hit the ground? I noticed in my last run I'd get no fall animation when I did then, but If I left it open when I hit the ground, there'd be a short delay where I couldn't move.

analog monolith
#

this seems Less Than Ideal for speedrunning

analog monolith
#

that's probably what it was

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usually best to close a bit before touching the ground so you can move right away

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but if you close too early, you get hardfall

molten aurora
#

So as long as I close it before that 1/3 second, I should be fine, good to know.

#

I never realized there was more to it, I just assumed you opened your inv and that was it.

true palm
#

it depends on the drop, but for 90% of inventory drops in the game, you're only going low so you can move left or right later, so you want to be moving as fast as possible

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you want to close your inventory as early as possible while still avoiding hardfall to gain horizontal movement in time

#

this applies to kingspass as well

molten aurora
#

I always opened my inventory early in kp, I just never put 2 and 2 together and thought to try that in other places. I am the big dumb zote

true palm
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you can save half a second to just moving right before opening inventory and closing it in time in KP

molten aurora
#

Time to learn the timing of every drop in the game to save the frames grubhappy

true palm
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the most important one to do that on imo is middle drop in gruzzer room, you really dont want to hit the ledge

#

if you close early enough you can drop straight into the transition

molten aurora
#

Huh, that's kinda cool, I always drop on the right, middle seemed kindaa spooky.

true palm
#

(middle drop is superior btw, you get hit less)

molten aurora
#

Wait really?

true palm
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yup

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ax2u did like a labbing thing a while ago

molten aurora
#

Huh, I'll need to mess around with it then. I know if you get hit in the middle, you're screwed.

true palm
#

you get hit in middle almost half as much as right drop

#

you can pixel perfect save middle drop

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but ye if you get hit in middle, specially near the top you just lose 2 seconds

molten aurora
#

I fail basic jumps sometimes, don't hit me with that pixel perfect feelspkman

true palm
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its not really pixel perfect

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but its tight

#

you have to cancel inventory early to wiggle past tik tiks

molten aurora
#

That would look really cool, I don't how I'd go attempting that though.

true palm
#

i mean i dont

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i kind of hop between middle and rightside, its a mood based thing

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but considering ax2u and pest and a lot of other top runners go for middle it does kind of suggest a trend

molten aurora
#

If I get hit on the drop down, it makes me want to reset, less of a chance getting hit sounds nice.

true palm
#

if you're going to reset on getting hit, moving to middle drop seems like the strat

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because you get hit about half the time on right side drop

molten aurora
#

I don't actually reset, my early game is way too garbage to consider doing that, it just feels really bad.

#

Yeah, I always just thought it was way more risk, for not much reward, that's why I never tried it.

true palm
#

like you lose an extra second if you get hit and move right

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in exchange for getting hit half as often

#

you can get double hit though after moving right

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so small chance of a really sad drop

dapper cove
#

i usually aim for just slightly right of the wire in the background

true palm
#

but you should already middle drop for uumuu split, so not to hard to swap to middle

molten aurora
#

Yeah, middle drop for uumuu is fine, I'm used to having dash there though.

alpine rivet
#

my first run got verified, now to wait for the improvement to be verified

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oh yeah, i guess i could ask for the speedrunning role now

true palm
#

if you dont get your role soon you can @ src mods

alpine rivet
#

i can wait a bit

minor hearth
#

Newm

stiff delta
#

what

grand elm
#

so many wrs shroompog

ionic cargo
#

eyy gusten sethsalute

honest folio
#

112% console runs ax2uS

snow dome
#

32:45

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What a world

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I'm going watching that

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Tangentally related, the only other game I run also!

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(That is obviously not me, ftr)

#

Jesus that SoB from Pest.

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Sum of Pest

abstract locust
#

A couple days ago, i found a weird glitch that i somehow removed my voidheart, do you know if this was already found?

signal current
#

heya! I'm having this issue where the timer on livesplit doesnt start and turns red.
I'm really new to this so im probably just missing something obvious. I do have global hotkeys on tho.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!

snow dome
#

Are you starting Livesplit while Hollow Knight is on the main menu?

signal current
#

nah, I have it open b4 opening the game

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should i start it while hk is on teh main menu?

last inlet
#

yes

signal current
#

ok, the timer works in the menu, but doesnt in game. It just turns blue 🤔

gritty remnant
wanton tartan
subtle glade
#

Do you have particles on minimal? It seems fine until you use stuff like void dash or wings

wanton tartan
#

yes, I do

#

at least, I have particle effects on "low", there doesn't seem to be a "minimal"?

subtle glade
#

I didn't remember the name of the minimal setting

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I guess low is the minimal then

steady lynx
#

Setting particels to low does almost nothing

subtle glade
#

Is it only the recording that sucks or is your game lagging too?

leaden python
#

if you won't be able to find decent recording settings, you can record your screen with a phone if you have a decent enough camera

wanton tartan
#

the game is okay mostly, it gets a bit laggy in the THK fight

subtle glade
#

Maybe lowering the video quality will help? I don't know much about recording so sorry if I can't help too much

wanton tartan
#

no worries, thank you for trying to help 🙂 I'll try that and see if it's any better

deep kernel
#

I was gonna run elegy% but ive changed my mind and im torn between TE and 106% TE (dont want any% cause I hate devouts)

wanton tartan
#

It's a little better but stilly choppy in places. I just don't know whether it's good enough to record a run that would be verified

steady lynx
#

If you're gonna run 106 I'd suggest starting with all skills since it includes a lot of skips 106 does

last inlet
#

te is a pretty hard category but it's absolutely possible to start with if you want to

last inlet
#

regardless it's a difficult run (but dont let that put you off, it's also very fun)

#

havent tried 106 so i cant advise you about that

deep kernel
#

I think im gonna learn true ending because of white palace + radiance without it being too long

alpine rivet
#

@tough breach Sorry to bother, but I got a run verified earlier. might need to scroll up a tiny bit or I can repost it.

tough breach
#

ye there you go

alpine rivet
#

cheers 🙂

vocal dove
steady lynx
#

Radiance in TE is surprisingly hard

last inlet
#

surprisingly?

#

i'm personally not surprised that radiance with 5 masks nail 0 shade soul is insanely hard

knotty vigil
#

i had this weird glitch, i finished the dialogue but i got stuck, the game didnt teleport me into the dream world for the dream nail, what did i do to cost this, and how do i avoid this ?

sonic crane
#

you gotta be on the ground before you start the interaction

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fully grounded and stopped

jagged vault
#

Yeah it can also happen due to dashing on the slightly uneven ground there

#

And interracting immediately

stone flame
jagged vault
#

Just make sure to always stop a little bit before interacting and make sure you’re just walking

#

Akustor if src mods don’t see your message in a while it’s fine to ping them

stone flame
#

Oh ok

jagged vault
#

There’s usally one around though

#

So it prob won’t be necessary

stone flame
#

Thanks, Red that is not blue

jagged vault
#

Lmao

dry pond
#

red that is not blue lmao

jagged vault
#

(I’m Blue, but dumb april fools joke haha)

stone flame
#

(ik)

dry pond
#

want to share some of my happiness with somebody i just finished my first after 200 hours of practice

rotund jackal
#

Sub 40 is a gamer time

sonic crane
#

nice!

dry pond
#

thanks

#

uumuu is a shitty boy i just missed last fireball and its not 2 cycle

#

it was so close

stone flame
#

200 hours of practice before a first run?

#

That's a lot

#

I would not be that pacient

stuck raptor
#

do you have the steam_appid txt file

#

could you screenshot where your downpatched files are

fair island
#

What's inside the text file

stuck raptor
#

what's the last asset file number in data

digital jewel
#

that should all work

#

I don't see why yours shouldn't work though

short spire
#

thank you discord very useful embed

digital jewel
#

I don't think that's the problem

#

sharedassets391 is also the last file in my 1221 install

magic light
#

i had this same problem and i think i fixed it by either uninstalling main hk then reinstalling or restarting pc

digital jewel
#

silly question but are you sure you're launching the actual 1221 exe in that folder

subtle glade
#

@knotty vigil I would honestly just make the 1221 your default installation

digital jewel
#

steam can't update it if it's not your main installation

subtle glade
#

Did adding it to steam as a non steam game not work?

honest folio
#

make it your main install by changing the name of the folder it's in to just Hollow Knight

#

also make sure to put it in the same drive as your other saves

#

which should always be steamlibrary>steamapps>common

subtle glade
#

Isn't it just Steam/steamapps/common?

honest folio
#

havent really followed this entire conversation so might be wrong but

#

oh sry that might be bc its my 2nd drive

dark blaze
#

Is there any RNG in collector Scream skip in godhome?

honest folio
#

not sure but it sucks

dark blaze
#

because sometimes it feels a bit inconsistent when getting up or when scream starts

subtle glade
#

Then you might want to downpatch again if that doesn't work

honest folio
#

show me your entire "common" folder

#

yeah mbe just do it again

#

doesnt take too lonmg right

digital jewel
#

hold on

#

you've tried putting it in the same folder as your current install, changing the folder name to Hollow Knight, and launching it?

honest folio
#

thats literally just what you need to do, that should work

#

make sure to change your current hk install (so the one named "Hollow Knight") to something else before changing the 1221 file to that

digital jewel
#

that's weird

#

yeah only thing left is to retry downloading it

honest folio
#

what happens if you launch it straight up from the folder

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just the executable

#

like i said i haven't really followed this conversation so im sorry if you said thios already

#

try to launch it from steam mbe

#

no problem

honest folio
#

for now just try downpatching again

magic light
#

downpatching again should fix it anyways

honest folio
#

yeah exactly this happened to me, too

#

so you're using depotdownloader and .net right?

opal stratus
#

speedrunning

honest folio
#

?

sick ravenBOT
strange gale
#

where can i find vengeful spirit icon for livesplit

honest folio
strange gale
#

thanks, your a homie

honest folio
#

no worries

molten aurora
#

Ew blue, what have you done, change it back elderC

#

3 runs - 3pbs grubhappy I bled so much time throughout this run though.

digital jewel
#

no that's a real thing

molten aurora
#

Yeah, walls are very hungry.

digital jewel
#

the fireball hitbox starts behind your character facing backwards

#

so it can hit the wall right at the start and be stopped

strange gale
#

when do i start the timer?

#

when i see my character falling?

wide stratus
#

I think livesplit does it automatically

#

But livesplit doesn't work on my operating system

stiff delta
#

what are you playing on

#

kizo

strange gale
#

wdym

#

steam

stiff delta
#

What platform

#

oh so pc

strange gale
#

pc

stiff delta
#

Yea get livesplit, it does it for you

wide stratus
#

I'm gonna start speedrunning soon probably on PC but does anyone know a good timer for linux?

strange gale
#

i have this but havent tested it yet

stiff delta
#

suffer

molten aurora
#

Cry

strange gale
#

lmao

strange gale
molten aurora
#

I got an extra attack todaay and went from a 1 cycle to a 4 cycle because I'm a pepega zote

stiff delta
#

If you save it then yes it will save

strange gale
#

i just click enter and it saves?

#

Oh i see

stiff delta
#

Theres a save button if you wanna be really sure

strange gale
#

Save layout

#

thanks

stiff delta
#

And save splits too

strange gale
#

Done

knotty vigil
#

im trying to upload a run unlisted to yt so i can submit but it's stuck processing at 99% is there a fix for this or do i just reset it?

stiff delta
#

Just wait

#

It should fix itself

knotty vigil
#

ok

strange gale
#

how do i make it so i can see live splits in game?

#

When i open the game my splits are in other tab

stiff delta
#

Hit “always on top”

#

its in layout settings

strange gale
#

still doesnt work

stuck raptor
#

you have to turn fullscreen off in-game

strange gale
#

how

#

i cant

#

do i change resolution?

alpine rivet
#

Restart your computer

#

Trust me

#

That's what worked for me last time

knotty vigil
#

wait, i think i have to verify my yt account in order to upload vids that are longer than 15 minutes. thats why it wasn't working

fair island
knotty vigil
#

is verifying a yt account difficult?

molten aurora
#

No, it's really easy.

dapper cove
#

yeah it's basically just verifying the email and doing 2FA

hot latch
#

Yo does anyone have tips for QG skip?

strong vessel
#

Try practicing it on a wall not above acid to get the c-dash timing down. You actually have to delay it a little

hot latch
#

Alrighty thank you, it is a bit weird timing wise lol

stuck raptor
#

your c-dash will also not start if you're too high on the wall. you need to be lower than you'd think

wide stratus
#

Hmm ingeresting

shut beacon
#

u also need to wait for the dash into the wall to finish then start your c dash

verbal oar
#

im not sure where to ask this but i just got modinstaller working and i want to start learning speedruns what mods should i install?

fair island
#

debug mod

pallid sage
#

Debug mod would be pretty important for practice.

#

And Benchwarp mod for getting around quicker to places so you can practice them

verbal oar
#

ok thx ill start with those

soft jolt
#

Guys, I run PS4 and I'll give a try on PC... How can I not mix the splits for each run-on live split?

hallow orchid
#

Just save your splits file as another file like any%-pc.lss

knotty vigil
#

if i got a notification on my computer while running, does that ruin the run or anything?

#

just making sure

deep kernel
#

LETS GO

soft jolt
#

@mathulu#1444 oh, good... Ty

honest folio
#

wp driko feelspkman

soft briar
#

Guys probably I figured out what was the problem with my pc being fucking snail speed: it probably was my processor overheating. I use a laptop and an SSD so almost all the work my pc does goes to the processor, which isn't that powerful and doesn't have a proper dissipator or not even a dissipator in the first place. Now I'm just letting it cool down and see what happens next!

soft briar
verbal oar
#

in debug mod is there way to save and load? if not is there a diffrent mod that does that?

#

ok thx i just found it

true palm
# hot latch Yo does anyone have tips for QG skip?

qga is one of the hardest skips in any%, you want the tip of our eye to be touching the tip of the acid. you can turn on invincibility to practice on the actual qga wall without dunking in acid (if you have ismas, it will not work). Practice starting your cheart without sliding down the wall at all, and practice jumping off the wall. I personally use sound cues from the end of my dash. Overall you'll find that lower on the wall, and pressing the cdash button later, and pressing jump at the end later than you think will work better. Sorry for the ping, but i think the trick deserves a fair amount of explanation due to its difficulty. Practice not sliding down with invincibility, and then once you are no longer sliding, just practice the trick normally.

hot latch
#

Thank you that makes sense! It's ok for the ping btw i'm never doing anything important lol, I've just been trying it with infinite health but that makes sense i'll have to try practicing like that, Thank you!!

crystal wharf
#

is there a way to attack cancel? feel like speedrunners swing their nail alot faster than i do lol

digital jewel
#

you can cancel nail attack into a spell cast

#

but for general attacking it's just about timing

crystal wharf
true palm
#

spamming is actually slower, so to get it down just practice getting in a rhythm

short spire
#

the nail hits have a huge buffer to them anyway so it's pretty easy to get the optimal slash timing

crystal wharf
#

ok

#

thanks!

rare quiver
#

Any tips for Mantis Pogo?

soft briar
#

How can I do inventory drop in 1.4.3.2?

peak marsh
#

walk off a ledge and get lucky

#

it's frame perfect

soft briar
#

While in 1.2.2.1 you just have to open inventory in midair, right?

jagged vault
#

(*physics frame perfect)

#

yes, you are correct morshu

soft briar
#

Uh, guess I'll have to downpatch then

hot latch
#

Actually as someone who plays cp it gets kind of easy after a while of trying it, I'm still a little inconsistent with it but i haven't been doing it long

true palm
#

current patch is compared to current patch (inventory drops on cp only save a collective 10 seconds)

#

if your motivation to downpatch is purely inventory drops you're not looking hard enough

soft briar
#

Oh ok, what are other advantages of downpatching?

haughty fossil
#

lever skips mainly, and a million other tiny room optimisations

#

there's a hazard warp in qg that saves around 8s I believe?

vocal dove
#

dropped inputs zote

true palm
#

epogo

hot latch
#

uummuu 2 cycle is dead

haughty fossil
#

epogo is also on CP, just different and harder

true palm
#

if you ever run a darknest category weavers spawn in more annoying spots

soft briar
#

What is epogo?

haughty fossil
#

a skip where you pogo off an explosion to get to mantis Village quickly

soft briar
#

Oh that

haughty fossil
#

the explosion is pogo able on 1221 making it easier

#

whereas on CP you have to do a more precise lineup to only pogo the spore as its about to explode

true palm
#

also thk is buffed and actually quite spooky

soft briar
#

Mmh, so basically on 1221 glitches are easier to perform?

hot latch
#

I still need to learn epogo on cp

true palm
#

basically 1221 has more glitches, and all of them are easier than what 1432 does

#

1432 isnt THAT much harder but its definitely quite different

hot latch
#

Another thing is 1221 is poorly optimized so if you need spare cpu then staying on cp may be better (my personal experience)

true palm
#

the only reasons to not downpatch is if you are 1) on a toaster 2) want less optimized categories 3) dont want to spend 2 hours to downpatch 4) plan on running a Current Patch exclusive category (such as 112)

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or somehow actually enjoy current patch

soft briar
#

I'm all of these except the 4 so yeah

hot latch
#

We got the best toast tho zote

true palm
#

idk people enjoy and opt into current patch all the time and the tricks arent necessary for a top time (pest is top 3 without epogo iirc)

#

so dont feel bad about current patch

#

tricks do make it faster so you should learn them

#

current patch also tends to be a little less consistent is the main thing, which doesnt matter unless you want a top time

tall charm
#

i wanna ask a quick question
if i speedrun with only one mod called MoreSaves mod, does my run count?
i commonly use it so, if it doesn't count then i'm OK with uninstalling it/reverting my game back to unmodded

true palm
#

having modapi installed at all will cause issues

#

revert to unmodded button does not fix that

#

moresaves will still be saved in the saves folder iirc

#

?saves

sick ravenBOT
#

Saves


Windows File Paths: (Assumes Default Steam Install Path, Adjust accordingly for DRM Free or Non-Standard Steam Path)

Game Files: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Hollow Knight\```
** **
Mac File Paths:
```Save Files: ~/Library/Application Support/unity.Team Cherry.Hollow Knight/
Game Files: ~/Library/Application Support/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/hollow_knight.app/```
** **
Linux File Paths:
```Save Files: ~/.config/unity3d/Team Cherry/Hollow Knight/
Game Files: ~/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/```
hot latch
#

Verify gamefiles pog

tall charm
#

i know where are the save files

#

i just asked

true palm
#

but you are going to need to verify game files in steam

tall charm
#

ok

#

thanks

true palm
#

no problem

knotty vigil
#

i uploaded my run to yt but it's buffering a ton and lowering the quality very frequently. is there a way to fix it? im not buffering with other peoples videos

true palm
#

just post the link here and we'll tell you if its buffering on our end

vocal dove
#

if you just uploaded it it might need time to finish processing before being HQ

hot latch
#

Were there any spots you saw specifically that were buffering?

hearty adder
#

It looks fine to me

hot latch
#

It seems fine to me as well

true palm
#

its perfectly fine dont worry about it

knotty vigil
#

ok it was buffering like every 10 seconds for me

#

its not buffering on the discord link but still is when i watch it on actual youtube

#

im worried it'll make it unwatchable to the verifier

#

maybe i'll restart my computer

hot latch
#

I checked it on youtube and it still seems fine, even for thk fight so you should be fine

knotty vigil
#

ok

#

thanks

hot latch
#

Np

true palm
#

even if it is I GUARANTEE you verifiers end up watching weirder stuff (i had a green chroma key filter on my game for one of my pbs by accident, which made greenpath a little uncomfortable to watch)

knotty vigil
#

ok do i need to fill in the hours if it was sub 1 hour?

true palm
#

nope

#

dont fill in milliseconds either

knotty vigil
#

ok was just about to ask that too

true palm
#

if you're interested in seeing the low quality footage i've submitted heres a time stamp on an old pb

#

the void really starts tearing through here

knotty vigil
#

ok i just submitted my first run!!!

dusk portal
# true palm

Looks like someone fused Greenpath, Fungal Wastes and the Abyss all together shroompog

#

That must have been painful for the moderators to watch

knotty vigil
#

hopefully my run gets verified and i can finally have my blue name

#

i think there was one part where i almost accidentally deleted my save file

dapper cove
#

mood though lmao

knotty vigil
#

wait

grand elm
knotty vigil
#

is there a way to take down a run awaiting verification?

true palm
#

you can edit a run if needed

knotty vigil
#

for some reason it says my time is 56 minutes without loads

true palm
#

you just need to edit it then

knotty vigil
#

and it says im 293 place

#

i was in like 117th

digital jewel
#

you put those times in

#

you can edit it

knotty vigil
#

ok

true palm
#

you'll see runs under awaiting verfiications

#

just click on the run

#

and there will be an option here

#

over on the right side

dapper cove
#

utah 0_o

true palm
#

regrettably but yes

dapper cove
#

i'm really really trying rn to move to canada

#

but alas i'm trapped here until i get more stuff figured out

#

namely the financial stuff lmao it's so complicated

#

right sorry thought we were there already

knotty vigil
#

ok its saying i need to wait to edit my run but how long?

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nvm it worked

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turns out im a big dumb and accidentally didn't set it to current patch nmg

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and set the wrong time

dapper cove
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lol i've been there

knotty vigil
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okay everything is figured out now i gtg

dapper cove
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BYE!

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oops sorry capslock

elfin vortex
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Curious but has anyone done a hitless 112% run before?

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Also soz if wrong channel

short spire
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any% is the only run that has been done hitless afiak

true palm
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probably not timed, resetting after 2 hours just doesnt sound fun to me

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specially since hitless p5 itself is also pretty rare

elfin vortex
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Yh It is def a collosal task

true palm
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any% is very fortunate to not have to go through too many risky areas and is also very short

hallow orchid
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People have done p5 hitless, and any% hitless. Nothing else afaik

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112% hitless would be absolutely insane

true palm
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the reset rate would be just too high

elfin vortex
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I can only imagine lmao. Im learning the 112% route and the number of times I got hit stupidly is already super high lol

dapper cove
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hitless would require rerouting for a couple cats though

true palm
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it would also just suck imo, one of the joys of 1xx categories is fury strats

hallow orchid
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It would be a pretty minor reroute for 112 just execution level way beyond what anyone would want to attempt

true palm
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wait does glass soul activate fury?

dapper cove
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not sure bc i haven't toyed around with mods much

hallow orchid
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As a 112 runner I can promise you fury strats are anything but a joy lmao

true palm
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because if so you could get really juiced with all of the lifeblood

haughty fossil
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i don't believe it does

true palm
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rip

dapper cove
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i think AS wouldn't be too bad to attempt hitless considering you pass a couple lifeblood cocoons

hallow orchid
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Glass soul gives damage boosts from lifeblood

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But presumably these runs would be on vanilla

dapper cove
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yaeh

true palm
stray kestrel
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cyn gotta route in fury for low%

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or at least any% steel soul

true palm
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fury just takes too long to grab and is less effective than shamans unfortunately

stark birch
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fury in low% gorbbrain

true palm
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any% ss current patch gets spore shroom though so thats cool

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too bad furys a percent, otherwise i would've routed it for low%

dapper cove
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could you remove a percent elsewhere?

true palm
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if we could remove a percent elsewhere, wed remove that percent and not grab fury

dapper cove
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swap something out so the category would still work?

true palm
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low% has no possible percent to be removed (at least for nmg)

stray kestrel
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get shrumal notch and overcharm fury sporeshroom and shaman for anyss

dapper cove
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i don't entirely know what gives percents and what doesn't but i have a general idea

true palm
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low% AG is the same as any% AG

true palm
dapper cove
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lmao

true palm
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if anyone wants to run any% ss on current patch though grab soul catcher and spore shroom because its optimal

dapper cove
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what's ss again?

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i see ss and think screenshot

true palm
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steel soul

dapper cove
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ohhhh

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i've never completed steel soul

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but i might go for it at some point for any%

stray kestrel
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or sporeshroom

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or shade soul

true palm
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i've run any% ss once and it was fun but current patch isnt fun

dapper cove
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i'm more confident in myself doing any%ss than AS ss

prime delta
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ss is shade soul, shaman stone, soul sanctum, steel soul, spore shroom, and silksong

dapper cove
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just gotta get good at wk

prime delta
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and probably five other things

true palm
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ss has 10000 acronyms we've gone over them before we dont need to do it again

dapper cove
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screenshot don't forget screenshot

true palm
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in this context any% ss as a category stands for steel soul

prime delta
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I've never seen someone use ss to mean screenshot in my life but I suppose it's valid

dapper cove
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why not just call it any% steel though just to make things easier to understand lmao

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i've seen it all the time

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having so many different things that aren't entirely related be abbreviated to the same thing is lowkey confusing

true palm
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idk because jenkar and i, the only people whove run any% ss recently that've talked about it called it that

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so thats just the acronym i've used

dapper cove
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i'll try my best to get accustomed to it lmao

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i do want to eventually attempt ss in some cat and maybe i'll turn that into a yt vid idk i've never been good at editing or making content lmao

true palm
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any% ss is a separate cat because its a completely different route due to no shadeskip

dapper cove
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yeah

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a lot of "regular" cats are different routes due to no shadeskip

true palm
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the only main categories that i know can do steel soul without a separate route are low% and 1xx categories

dapper cove
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i guess you can't do shadeskip in low% because of no claw or something? i don't entirely know which skills are skipped

true palm
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speaking of which my low% steel soul time is faster than my any% steel soul time zotewheeze

dapper cove
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or was it dash that you skip?

true palm
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might need to run any% ss again

true palm
dapper cove
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that's kinda funny lmao but it's probs bc of the route not changing

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ohhhh

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all bosses are a percent right

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even the mini bosses

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like mmc

true palm
dapper cove
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ok

true palm
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dream versions are not additional percent

dapper cove
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huh

true palm
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theres a whole page called completion on the wiki

dapper cove
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but there's no benefit really to doing dream variants besides getting essence to use so ig there's literally no point in runs that don't need TE

true palm
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the big one is dreamgate

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which opens up some cursed shadeskips

dapper cove
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true

true palm
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anyways this is what low% gets
1%: Vengeful Spirit
2%: Mantis Claw
1%: Dream Nail
2%: Crystal Heart
1%: Watcher Knights
1%: Uumuu
3% Dreamers

hallow orchid
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CP all skills wr route can run on steel soul xephSmile

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vali don't you dare go run the other cp as route and bop yourself

dapper cove
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why does heart and claw give 2% when everything else give 1 that's weird

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is it bc it's classified as a skill?

true palm
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movement skills are 2%

dapper cove
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ok

true palm
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ie wings, dash, ismas, etc

dapper cove
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i'm trying to think if there is a route where its possible to not need claw but with uumuu i don't think it's possible

quiet saddle
digital jewel
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kings brand also gives 2%

true palm
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the percent we skip from any% is hornet, mothwing cloak, gruz mother, shamans stone, which is a 5% diff

dapper cove
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what's the final % for a low% TE run ?

digital jewel
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kingsoul

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oh nvm

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I get the question now

true palm
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oh idk the number

digital jewel
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it's quite a lot, since you need wings and crystal dash

dapper cove
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lmao xero had a brainfart

true palm
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i can only quote low% godhome ending and low% all bosses percents

dapper cove
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i didn't mean the last thing that counts as a percent i mean what is the overall percent for low% TE

true palm
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its a lot because dash, wings, traitor lord, king soul, woke nail, and some other stuff are required

dapper cove
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gotcha

true palm
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think skurrys video covers it though

dapper cove
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ok

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i want to see like an ordered list of the "main" cats based on final %

digital jewel
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yeah it's too bad that white palace requires both wings and crystal dash

true palm
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one of the things that really puts me off low% te is just you get all the movement, and the whole point of why i like low% is dashless movement

dapper cove
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like obv low% is the lowest and 112% is the highest

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but what about all the others

true palm
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like i think with wings and dash and cursed fireball skips you could replace it

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but relative to vanilla low% we already get it

dapper cove
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what about TE and 100% and AS including variants based on patch if there is a significant change between patches

digital jewel
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I actually think it is additional. you have dream gate and shade cloak required so you could skip the cdash to monomon by getting sharp shadow instead I think

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that would be 1% less

true palm
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i was talking relative to vanilla low%

digital jewel
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ok

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but for low% te I think you only get cdash for white palace

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actually nvm

true palm
digital jewel
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getting to broken vessel requires cdash in low% as well

quiet saddle
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Yo, CC, I'm explaining Low% to my buddy and I wanted to send him an example of some funny tech you guys have to do

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You got any good clips?

dapper cove
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do you not do the shade skip there?

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in low%

untold sigil
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no

digital jewel
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the shade skip there requires either nail1 or an extra mask

dreamy bough
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low% doesn't get wings

true palm
untold sigil
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because nail1 and an extra mask

dapper cove
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ok

true palm
quiet saddle
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Yo, where's that skip compilation

dapper cove
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and i guess the tradeoff isn't worth

quiet saddle
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What's src I mean lol

true palm
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its under guides

quiet saddle
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Kk, thanks :)

true palm
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it covers how to do all the skips in a 50 minute video

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has timestamps

dreamy bough
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it would be worth if cdash wasn't also required for white palace

dapper cove
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pisces has good guides for AS too I highly recommend those

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yeah that makes sense

dreamy bough
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a shame you need wings for wp :(

dapper cove
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for that final room i think where you cdash through the thorns

true palm
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because i walk through how to do them

quiet saddle
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Ok cool, that's good to know

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We may just watch one of those

true palm
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if theres any part thats just like wow epic cool its the cheart room

quiet saddle
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Oh man, that sounds brutal without dash

true palm
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thats homothety doing it

dapper cove
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god there's so many things i want to do speedrunning wise i just wish i had more time lmao

true palm
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that video is damageless cycle

dapper cove
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so there's a damage tank strat

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man i feel like it's just me but intentionally damage tanking causes me so much anxiety

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bc it reduces my room for error and then i panic and heal and waste a bunch of time trying to play it safe

true palm
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damage tanking becomes more comfortable with practice, and for cpeak theres a damageless fast cycle for every room

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in all skills, i recommend not tanking in cpeak so you can damage tank in mound

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also makes dark room comfier

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cpeak should just be one of your most practiced areas since everythings cycle based you benefit a lot from practice there

soft jolt
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Quick question about livesplit... My sum of best segments is showing the sum of real time and not game time... How do I change that?

dapper cove
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i don't tank anywhere

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go into the layout settings for livesplit

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and there should be an option under the sum section to switch between game time and real time

true palm
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is your current comparison game time

soft jolt
true palm
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use my screenshot for reference

soft jolt
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Nice

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Solved

dapper cove
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woot

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we love when things work as intended

soft jolt
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Yep

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Starting to do some PC runs here... Getting a bit dizzy by dealing with 2 layouts between PS4 and PC

true palm
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if you set everything to current comparison you'll have some more success

knotty vigil
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so now that ive submitted a run, how will i know if it gets verified, do i just check my pending actions from time to time or do i get a notification or an email?

true palm
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on src you'll get a notification by the bell

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it'll take a few days to be verified

knotty vigil
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ok