speedrunning

[main bear]

any other useful mods i might need

[stuck raptor]

if you aren't on current patch though, you can't use it

[main bear]

im on cp

[haughty fossil]

transtrans is the most useful mod

[main bear]

alr bud

[agile blaze]

what does transtrans do

[haughty fossil]

turns tiktiks trans:

[hearty adder]

Hitboxes mod good

[stuck raptor]

chaos mod best

and shitmodst

[granite field]

I think debug / benchwarp / hitboxes is a good combo for a practice purpose

Or like if you want to test things

[hearty adder]

Hitboxes is especially useful for practicing any skip that needs you to jump as late as possible (see: fireball skips) imo

[main bear]

cool, thanks

omg.

i just tried watcher knights for the first time

impossible

[grizzled maple]

yeah that fight is where you'll spent a majority of your practice time

[main bear]

lol

[grizzled maple]

i wasn't kidding lol

like it's actually stupid hard

[main bear]

I know xD

[granite field]

yeah good luck for them

[main bear]

wait

I should have shaman stone

dumbass

[last inlet]

watcher knights are probably the single biggest roadblock to learning any%

good luck learning them

[granite field]

I've spent like hours just to understand how they work, and still struggle as hell

[main bear]

thanks guys lol

[last inlet]

my favourite is when they move super weirdly

like i've taken damage to the glitch where they just stop bouncing after the first bounce way more than i'd like

[main bear]

ummm

i reloaded a save state in debug

and now i cant move

or pause

or do anything

[haughty fossil]

did you do it as you died

[main bear]

maybe...

[haughty fossil]

try not to do that wait until after you're off the bench from respawning

[main bear]

ok

[last inlet]

yeah

[main bear]

how do i fix?

[haughty fossil]

alt f4

[main bear]

dammit

[haughty fossil]

restart game

[main bear]

okay

[last inlet]

debug mod does not like it if you reload while dying or on a bench

i've made that mistake enough times

[main bear]

ok.

Dude

My friend and I were having an any% nmg race

and this dude beats WK second try

WHAT

[last inlet]

(the other thing is don't reload during a hazard respawn)

[forest latch]

CP? Or funni grimm troupe patch?

[last inlet]

wk is not as hard as it first seems once you've practised for like 20 hours

[main bear]

cp

[forest latch]

Ok coolio

CP gang

[last inlet]

unfortunately the solution for wk is just to git gud

[haughty fossil]

after enough practice its less "will i die to wk" or "will i want to have died to wk to let me reset"

[main bear]

but

[bronze anchor]

lmao I love this

[main bear]

he's never fought wk with nmg stuff

[forest latch]

I mean, I didn't mind the 20 minute WK time loss at first, but now I'm like "GRRR BARK BARK I NEED TO IMPROVE"

[main bear]

sorry any%

[last inlet]

it's just time save for next run

[main bear]

wait but howd he do it

was he just lucky

[last inlet]

maybe?

nail 1 isn't too hard to route in either

[forest latch]

I think there's a funni strat out there, can't remember

[main bear]

maybe ill give myself nail 1

I think I deserve it

[forest latch]

I've been considering using the strat for my second run
I just need to not get fucked over

[main bear]

😋

[last inlet]

nail 1 is a pretty solid beginner strat until you can do it without

since the time to get it is much less than if you keep dying

[main bear]

uh oh

i hit the respawn button and my screen went black

now i cant do anything

[last inlet]

respawn or load savestate?

[main bear]

yay

fixed

[last inlet]

cool

[main bear]

how do i give myself nail1?

[last inlet]

i think there's a hotkey in debug for +4 nail damage

you can look in the f1 menu to check

[main bear]

oh i see

[stiff delta]

there is

[last inlet]

i want to say it's just + or -

[stiff delta]

i dont think theres a limit though

so just mash away

[last inlet]

yeah make sure you know how much nail damage you've added

[haughty fossil]

it says on left side how much damage you're doing

[last inlet]

good point

[haughty fossil]

nail0 is 5, +4 per nail upgrade

[main bear]

i see it

oops

[last inlet]

wk with nail -1 when

[main bear]

now wait a minute

[haughty fossil]

nail damage @ 0 does weird things

you can't hit levers for example i think

[last inlet]

weird

also if you reduce nail dmg to 0, does that mean you can't reset it to any standard dmg amount without reloading the game?

[main bear]

WHAT DID I DO

[last inlet]

bc you only have +/-4

no clue

haven't seen that before

[main bear]

:D

[haughty fossil]

oh the shade thing? did you rename any of the mod files in your mods folder

that happened to me when i renamed randomizermod3.0.dll

[main bear]

i fixed it

just loaded savestate

[last inlet]

tbf that does fix like half of the issues you can run into

[main bear]

DUDE

WHY DOES A WK JUST STOP ROLLING

IT MOVED TWO INCHES AND STOPPED

[last inlet]

yeah that just happens

[main bear]

well at least i killed one this time

[ionic sparrow]

if its in the corner that can happen

[last inlet]

you'll get used to wk shenanigans eventually

didnt acually know the corner triggered it

[ionic sparrow]

wk have alot of funny mannerisms to get used to

[main bear]

considering just adding ddark to my route

[haughty fossil]

would recommend watching a guide, like fire's any% guide

[last inlet]

my favourite is the wall grind bounce

a faster addition if you cant do it with nail 0 is shade soul iirc

the fight is pretty much free if you have ddark tho

[main bear]

Wait.

Shade soul is faster than Ddark???????????????????

[last inlet]

to get yes

[main bear]

interesting

[last inlet]

you need to get +800 geo for dash slash, then lever skip to get shade soul without key

[haughty fossil]

on 1221 yes

[deft flame]

is pogaxe worth it on CP? is it consistent?

[main bear]

cp?

[digital jewel]

ddark requires you to get dive first

so that's insanely slow and unsafe

[last inlet]

on cp it might not be faster

not sure

[haughty fossil]

worth it
depends how good you are
consistent
not entirely, but there is a different setup

[last inlet]

since you need wings? (i think) to do the skip

[deft flame]

yeah i was trying 1221 setup and just found the cp setup video lol

[deft flame]

ty

[main bear]

is there any time to heal

in wk

well i guess its situational

[last inlet]

if there's one knight on the field you can while they're attacking (if you're not in their path)

[main bear]

yeah 👍

[last inlet]

if there's two they have to sync up attacks

[haughty fossil]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlmjHynpIjc&list=PLfkLKB8O1Ff0-AApWYqqgFjMcMMVaW_JH&index=8&ab_channel=fireb0rn

[last inlet]

in general only try to heal when there's one alive unless you're confident it'll work

[main bear]

im watching it rn

[deft flame]

ok so what im trying to do is find optimizations to try and get a sub 40 time

would pogaxe make sense to practice when im getting like 42 mins or should i focus on more important stuff?

[hearty adder]

Pogaxe should always be top priority

[deft flame]

🥴

[stuck raptor]

Should just focus on improving your movement

Dashing better, jumping better, etc adds up quick over a runs length. Pogaxe saves what, like 3 seconds

[bronze anchor]

effort -> time saved is a bad measure of effective practice, instead effort -> swag acquired for optimal speed gaming

[haughty fossil]

play rando to improve your movement

[deft flame]

alright cool

thanks everyone

i'll def try some rando too cuz i already wanted to

[main bear]

woohoo!! i killed two this time

[last inlet]

nice!

[main bear]

then i died to the first one 😂

[random oak]

Okay now everytime I attempt to downpatch to 1.2.2.1 the game won't open. It just white screens on me

[haughty fossil]

which downpatch tutorial did you follow

[random oak]

the steam method

[digital jewel]

did it download 100%?

[random oak]

it said depot_download complete

do I need to readd it back to steam?

[digital jewel]

the game is installed normally through steam as well yea?

your normal copy of the game?

[random oak]

yeah

[digital jewel]

hmm

[random oak]

should I try to download it through the alt method?

[digital jewel]

when you downloaded the 1221 you didn't copy it over any other files right?

[random oak]

it copied the data folder

but thats all

[digital jewel]

what do you mean?

[random oak]

https://i.imgur.com/MEjT8Jb.png

[haughty fossil]

you're missing some files

[digital jewel]

yeah

[random oak]

wait really? that's all that's downloaded when I use download depot

[digital jewel]

you need to add the steam_appid.txt file or it'll launch your normal installation

[random oak]

oh right. shit.

then when I want to open the debug mode do I do the same thing with the same steam_addid.txt? But copy the contents to another folder and add the mod?

[digital jewel]

yea

[random oak]

do i add it to steam as well?

[digital jewel]

you don't have to

I want to know if it launches correctly now

or still a white screen

[random oak]

okay cool

launches now. but crashed as soon as i forced it out of full screen

let me clear reg

[digital jewel]

alright as long as it launches you're probably gonna be good

[random oak]

wow same thing

i don't think this game wants me to speed run it lmao

[digital jewel]

are your video drivers updated maybe

seems like a weird issue

[random oak]

woah okay here's the weird thing. When I try to play the 1.4.3.2 now it also crashes

should they not be updated?

[main bear]

why am i 1 shotting my soul

1.4.3.2 debug

oh

how do i remove voidheart lmao

[high hawk]

Only with commands I believe

[main bear]

how do i do that

[high hawk]

(Gonna be honest no clue but I know it's not achievable vanilla)

[main bear]

im in debug

[forest latch]

iirc, they're practicing

I'm pretty sure you're able to remove it via debug
I could boot up my modded install to double check

[fervent dock]

You can remove voidheart by selecting charms in the debug menu and hitting kingsoul until it’s at 0

[main bear]

oh thanks

[forest latch]

Oh pog

[main bear]

practicing shade skip

[fervent dock]

It will be replaced by a greyed out dashmaster charm (on 1.2.2.1 that is the case atleast)

[forest latch]

If you get the hang of Shade Skip, I think you can obtain Void Heart again via debug

[main bear]

coo

LMAO SHADE SKIP IS SO EASY

[high hawk]

Is there any video tutorials of how to do the blue lake shade skip on low%

[digital jewel]

low% doesn't do the shade skip

[forest latch]

Shade Skip is easy yet I somehow struggle on it

[digital jewel]

because killing gruz mother is a %

[forest latch]

Takes me a couple of tries at most

[digital jewel]

so they can't go that way

[main bear]

i just did it first try

[high hawk]

Ah so ive been looking at the wrong run then

[digital jewel]

what are you trying to run?

[high hawk]

Low te

Which is basically just low but birbs

[digital jewel]

hmmmmm

[forest latch]

Just realized that I could practice on my modded install
Shady struggle hours

[digital jewel]

why

[high hawk]

Cause I am very very stupid

That's why

[digital jewel]

alright

skurry did a run

you could watch that

[high hawk]

Segmented and old route tho

There's a newer theoretical route

[digital jewel]

the newer route still doesn't do shade skip though

[twin swallow]

the best route for low% TE has "pick another category" as step 1

[median gull]

the newer route is the same as before

but you do colo 1

quit before getting %

and kill gpz

to get essenec

that's the new route

everything prior to that is the same

[high hawk]

And then farm birbs

[thorn jasper]

low% TE usually ends up as more of a thought exercise than a speedrun category anyone is legit interested in having a leaderboard for

or even interested in running more than 0 or 1 times

[high hawk]

I'm going to do actual runs after I just want low te world record

[vocal dove]

finally PB after 2 weeks of struggle

[pine wadi]

Nice

[high hawk]

Dope

[worthy sluice]

Congrats on your great run

And gusten i found where you got your pfp from

Or i guess how

[main bear]

ALRIGHTS LADS

HERES THE PLAN

if i practice watcher knights for the next four hours

Do you think I'll be able to beat them

[verbal prism]

yes

[main bear]

I'm going in

ill stream in the Hollow Knight vc if y'all want to watch/give tips

[merry python]

do you guys have any tips for acid skip cause i feel like im always too high or in the acid

[main bear]

which

[low bramble]

which one

[merry python]

forgotten crossroads

[low bramble]

you just have to walk of the ledge to the right and then use cdash as soon as you hit the wall

[verbal prism]

Good luck soldier

[merry python]

yeah but when i cdash i always hit the top of the like cave thingy

or i just swim in the acid

[twin swallow]

let yourself slide down a bit more if you bonk on the overhang

[low bramble]

you can't have ismas on

[merry python]

oh

does ismas make it harder?

[twin swallow]

ismas kinda sucks you into the acid

[main bear]

it makes it impossible

[low bramble]

it makes it impossible yea

[merry python]

BRUH

so how do i disable it ?

[twin swallow]

are you on pc?

[low bramble]

debug mod

[merry python]

is there a mod for that

ok ty

[twin swallow]

if yes, debug mod

[main bear]

new save

[merry python]

i am on pc ty

:)

thank you guys for the help

[low bramble]

np!

[main bear]

@low bramble once you hit the wall on the otherside, should i just spam jump

[median gull]

no, you should time it

[main bear]

o

[median gull]

i mean, if it works you do you

It just doesn't work for me

[low bramble]

try to time it to when the sound from the hit is going away

[main bear]

got it

[twin swallow]

if you spam you'll probably get only a minimum height jump and may not make it up to the ledge

[median gull]

if something works for you consistently you should always go ahead and use your own setup

(also what jb said)

[stiff delta]

Timing is good

Honestly the timing is easier by just a little bit if you cancel the cdash so instead of bonking you slide into the wall

[main bear]

dude

dont you hate it when you're fighting wk

and you're against the wall

and your vs just doesn't appear

me too

[grizzled maple]

Yeah thats hungry walls. So whats happening is that for the first frame (or so) of vs its actually facing backwards. And since vs is stopped by walls, the forward part never happens

You get used to the spacing eventually

[main bear]

oh.

What do i do when one wk bounces at me and the other rolls

[haughty fossil]

either go between them or climb up the wall

it's situational

[main bear]

ok.

But isn't going into the wall bad

because then you're pinned in the corner?

I hate when that happens

[stiff delta]

Its situational

[grizzled maple]

Part of getting good at the fight is learning how to keep them on one side of you

[stiff delta]

Wall is a blessing and a curse

[grizzled maple]

Its just knowing your options in the moment. Something you only learn by doing it 500 times unfortunately.

[main bear]

guess we're gonna be here for more than 5 hours lads

[twin swallow]

you'll feel much happier at the end (hopefully) :D

[stiff delta]

Attempt 501 its like that scene in the lego movie where the main character goes sicko mode on the lego blocks near the end of the movie

[main bear]

ok progress.

I killed 3 this time

[stiff delta]

Nice

[main bear]

i hate wk

i have every other big hurdle down

for my first speedrun

this is the only one in my way

Also is basic nail damage 5 or 9

[twin swallow]

5

and +4 with each upgrade

[main bear]

damn.

I've been practicing with 9 this entire time

maybe i should just route nail 1 into my speedrun

[grizzled maple]

Its usually recommended for beginners anyway. Just get the journal above claw before quitting out and the nail before watchers

[main bear]

ok.

hey is anyone willing to watch a clip of me fighting them (wk) and give some pointers

[prime plaza]

Hello everyone! What is the best resource or place to start learning any% on pc? Thanks in advance!

[thorn jasper]

check the pinned messages for guides and stuff

[thorn jasper]

if you just go ahead and post a video, you might get people who happen to be online give feedback

[main bear]

oh cool thanks

can i post my twitch

ill stream if any of you want to watch/help me

[low bramble]

I'll watch and help out a bit

[main bear]

should i dm my twitch?

or am i allowed to post

[low bramble]

i grabbed it off ur disc no worries

[main bear]

oh lmao cool

ok im live

[stone flame]

why are fireball skips so hard

[haughty fossil]

(make sure you're using the quick cast button) because they're relatively precise and unintuitive inputs

[stone flame]

I am

I have to change the way I hold the controller

[worthy sluice]

I need to use the dpad more

[stone flame]

I use the dpad for the turn back

I hold the analog to the left and try to tap dpad to the right and quick cast at the same time

Sometimes it works

[haughty fossil]

your issue may be jumping too early then, for the 2nd and 3rd skips you need to be very close to the edge to get them usually

[stone flame]

yeah, that too

that's why it's hard

[haughty fossil]

practice

[stone flame]

I know

It feels like I get it out of luck right now

[main bear]

ITS TOO EASYYYYYYYYY DUDEEEE

LIGHT WORK

I BEAT THEM EZZZ

[worthy sluice]

Your stream crashed

[low bramble]

congrats

[worthy sluice]

So i couldnt see it

[main bear]

EZ PZ

[low bramble]

akustor just focus on jumping as late as possible and fireballing at the top of your jump (for the second 2)

[worthy sluice]

Imagine doing 3 fireball skips lol

Weak

[stone flame]

I have a hard time with all 3 of them honestly

[worthy sluice]

I do two

[main bear]

im rebooting my stream sorry about that

[limpid ruin]

1st fb skip you should fall a large bit

2nd just past apex

3rd, matters less, as long as you hit the jump off point and turn around at apex or slightly after

[median gull]

on the 3rd one it is really important you jump as close to the ledge as possible

[keen cipher]

why, with all categories, speedrun.com doesn't have a Path of Pain categorie?

[dry sluice]

it does

in ILs

[keen cipher]

ILs?

what's that?

[dry sluice]

individual levels

[keen cipher]

ah

level leaderboards

thx!

[high hawk]

Well low te is starting now

[main bear]

hey when i try to revert back to unmodded i get this

[high hawk]

Wish me luck bois

[main bear]

gl

[high hawk]

Thnxs

[fair island]

go to steam → right click hollow knight → click on properties → click on local files and then verify integrity of game files

[main bear]

thanks

Hey for livesplit, what does the greenpath split do?

[fair island]

are you gonna stream it?

[high hawk]

No as found streaming on my pos laptop breaks live split

[main bear]

is there any easy way to see your splits if you only have one monitor

like without alt tabbing

[haughty fossil]

put game in windowed, alt enter to make it "fullscreen" and change livesplit settings to always be on top

[main bear]

aw does the game have to be windowed

[haughty fossil]

or consider using something like OnTopReplica to make a transparent

alt tab makes it fullscreen borderless

allowing livesplit to draw over it

[main bear]

ok

[fair island]

alt tab or alt enter?

[haughty fossil]

alt enter even

thanks its 5:30 am i should sleep

[main bear]

where's the always on top setting

go to bed lmfao

[haughty fossil]

nah

[main bear]

wheres the always on top setting tho

[main bear]

ah thanks

layout settings

alright

im gonna make my first any% nmg run

wish me luck

im streaming if you want to watch

[high hawk]

Well nvm I'm falling asleep while playing so nope maybe when I wake up tomorrow I will start the run

[main bear]

f

[high hawk]

Cause if I'm sleepy before the 20 hour mark

No way could I do the 33 hours

[random oak]

Still having a bunch of framerate issues, where the game seems to be running at 220-270 just fine and then dips to like 0-10. My game was playing smooth at 300+ while learning yesterday and then after booting today having issues all over the place seemingly over night.

here is a video example of the stuttering issue i'm having. https://imgur.com/8Csadsk

The issues seems even worse in the false knight fight when the door breaks open. Closer to 2s freeze https://imgur.com/a/qBGA0ur

Happens no matter the resolution. Right now it's at 720p with no vsync and low particles on.

Machine is more than capable of running this game. I have an ryzen 5 2600x with a 1660 super and 32gb ram.

[haughty fossil]

have you tried reinstalling the game and clearing registry?

[random oak]

I deleted my 1.2.2.1 files today and down patched again and then cleared my registry and it did nothing

[haughty fossil]

is this only when recording? or constant on 1221?

[random oak]

removing the original 1.4.3.2 steam game from my computer and starting completely fresh is my next step I guess

is constant.

[haughty fossil]

you may want to cap your framerate manually

[random oak]

I can have nothing open or a full stream open. doesn't matter how much i have open on my computer

[fair island]

Is your system overheating?

[haughty fossil]

uninstalling 1432 shouldn't do anything

[main bear]

Omg Jamie

Go to bed

It’s like 7 am now

[haughty fossil]

im chilling

[main bear]

Bro

I’m concerned for your health

[haughty fossil]

are you using inputmapper or similar for your controller?

[random oak]

no input mapper either

[main bear]

@fair island sorry I rage quit my stream earlier lmfao

[random oak]

https://i.imgur.com/vsGFb5b.png

that's task manager

[main bear]

What’s full task manager? Is anything else doing something large?

[random oak]

and nxzt cam is saying my cpu is at 25% load and gpu load is at 41% load

[main bear]

Then it’s not an issue with your pc

[random oak]

temps are both fine. Both sitting at 48 and 53 respectively

[fair island]

Maybe try changing hollow knight's priority to high in task manager. I have no idea if it's gonna work or not but it's worth a shot

[main bear]

Def something w hollow knight

[random oak]

just so weird that everything was all dandy yesterday. Then boot it up this morning and it's acting like I'm playing it on my hp laptop lol

[haughty fossil]

if you try running the game with vsync on, do the drops stop? (this is not a permanent fix, do not keep vsync on)

[main bear]

Have you tried the old restart computer?

[random oak]

lol yeah i've restarted it

[main bear]

Ok lol

Get the basics out of the way xD

Is Steam doing anything?

Wait I have an idea

Play HK

And when it starts acting up check task manager

See what it says, and send a screenshot

[fair island]

That'll be too slow

[main bear]

You have a better idea lol?

Sorry that sounded rude haha

[fair island]

Maybe record both together using obs and when it hiccups see what happens in task manager

[random oak]

wait hold on

we might have something here

okay here's the deal

making it a higher priority helps

but the frame drops are still happening

however, if I turn v sync on. it caps my frame rate at 60, and it's silky smooth and the drops don't happen at all

[main bear]

Hmm

[haughty fossil]

ok, cap your framerate using rivatuner or your gpu driver

[random oak]

no stutters or nothing

obviously don't use v sync

[fair island]

Did you try this?

[random oak]

i watched it

[main bear]

Why not use the game to cap frame rate

Or can you not

[haughty fossil]

because its horrible

vsync in hollow knight is an atrocity

and i use it in every run (for 40s)

[random oak]

power usage and gpu% plumit and then hike back up

[fair island]

Did another app pop up or something?

[random oak]

nope

[haughty fossil]

that probably indicates a thermal issue or faulty thermal sensor but if capping framerate works, it works

[random oak]

I'm thinking my psu is probably on it's last leg. I'm going to order here in the next few weeks to beat it.

[fair island]

Maybe try capping to 150ish

And see if problem still persists

[random oak]

In the mean time, is there a good cap I should put it at?

[haughty fossil]

200 should be fine

150 is a little low

much lower and hk will start to do its thing it likes to do to inputs

[main bear]

Really be careful about your psu

You don’t want to fry your whole pc

[haughty fossil]

...that's not how psus are designed to fail

[main bear]

Design doesn’t always happen lol

[haughty fossil]

[random oak]

well i think it's more so a wattage issue than it is a failure issue

[haughty fossil]

what psu do you have?

[random oak]

i think it's a little lower than it should be

it's a evga 500w bronze

[main bear]

Oh then you’re fine

Wel I mean

You’re not but

I have a 700w psu

But it’s like 8 years old

I really need to replace it

[random oak]

i would feel better having more like 650-700 but had an extra 500 so threw it in this thinking I would buy one and replace it.

2 years later and I'm still being lazy

[main bear]

Lol

[random oak]

is it normal for hollow knight to have a very high power usage?

[fair island]

If you push 300 FPS then it can

[random oak]

with vsync on and it sitting at 60 it's still sitting at very high

[main bear]

Why would you even need 300fps

[haughty fossil]

yes.

[main bear]

What’s your monitor hz?

[haughty fossil]

300fps is actually a pretty normal fps in hk

monitor hz means nothing, its about inputs and the framerate dependent mechanics

anything below 100fps feels like you're playing underwater

[main bear]

I have a 144hz, monitor why shouldn’t I cap it ther

[meager current]

60 fps 🙂

[main bear]

I can’t even see that fast

[knotty vigil]

How do I submit a speedrun on switch

[fair island]

It's not about what you see. More FPS less dropped inputs

[haughty fossil]

https://www.speedrun.com/hollowknight#Console_Runs
requires video evidence and audio

[fair island]

(to an extent)

[main bear]

Ok

[haughty fossil]

(also you can definitely see more than 144fps 🥴 )

[main bear]

Diminishing returns

[fair island]

Maybe instead of vsync try capping at 60 with Riva tuner and see if it still uses high power

[main bear]

After 144 not worth imo

[random oak]

i downloaded riva but I'm not seeing it after installing it?

call me crazy?

[fair island]

Check the tabs below on bottom left of the screen

[random oak]

yeah i looked in there and it's not in there

[fair island]

even when you expanded it?

maybe open riva again and dont press the x button

[random oak]

https://i.imgur.com/P1rbFFL.png

is it that stat server?

or just riva tuner?

[random oak]

yeah even if i look it up it doesn't pop up. but it's in my programs86 folder

[fair island]

redownload it?

[serene coral]

i've been limiting fps to 144 with rivatuner since turning off ingame fps cap

is there a reason to go higher? i'm just trying to avoid any stuttering

i know sometimes it dips even so

[haughty fossil]

generally my guidance is: play uncapped and see what fps you get most of the time. then set it to a multiple of 50 below that

(the multiple of 50 probably doesn't do anything but eh, superstition)

[random oak]

who would have thought this game would have been such a headache to get working properly lol

[haughty fossil]

probably everyone with a blue name

this game does not like being played well

[random oak]

well hopefully once it's done being setup it's done

okay riva finally started working again

just add like 150 to framerate limit?

[meager current]

true

[random oak]

okay I set the frame rate. But now it's not popping up on the screen.

[meager current]

my theory is that team cherry intentionally made the code spaghetti just to make us suffer

[fair island]

what did you set the max as?

how did you set it?

[random oak]

i set it at 150 just to test it

but it's not working

[fair island]

Can you screenshot riva tuner

[random oak]

i may have a solution

but yes i can

[fair island]

So do screenshot it

[random oak]

https://i.imgur.com/l3eDglA.png

[fair island]

Turn on the show own statistics to make Riva show the FPS and to see if it's working

[random oak]

okay there we go

now lets see what happens

hmmmmm......

i just freaked out bad again

[fair island]

I don't know what that means

[random oak]

the game freezes or stutters and i drop like 50 frames

even capped at 150

https://imgur.com/a/A7IPjpl

[fair island]

when you checked task manager before, is the issue with cpu or gpu?

[random oak]

here's an example

[fair island]

like when it hiccups

[random oak]

ye

[fair island]

so with both?

[random oak]

the gpu plumits

and the power goes from very high to low

like gpu isn't getting appropriate power maybe?

[fair island]

it shouldnt go from high to low. if it goes low the gpu isn't able to push enough frames and hence the fps drop

[fair island]

this could be possible

[random oak]

i'll have to stop learning and take a look into the pc. Should address these issues even if it's single game related. This could be a precursor to more issues down the line.

[fair island]

or maybe run cp which has better performace

[haughty fossil]

cp sacrifices your sanity for a few extra frames

10/10 would sacrifice again

[stoic seal]

i never done path of pain before and i'm so confused at my 45 min mark i did this and legit don't know how i did this

[dreamy bough]

hitboxes are' jank

[stoic seal]

i've noticed...

[meager current]

This game is jank

[golden bobcat]

Am I supposed to do Squitskip on the 5 hour guide?

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1861523602 This one

[haughty fossil]

nope

the 5 hour guide requires only the skip to watcher's spire, which it does offer to go to get wings for

[golden bobcat]

I barely remember how to do the normal route

Do I lose anything if I Squitskip?

[last inlet]

dont think you should

as in lose anything

you just get to save like 5 minutes

[meager current]

Squit skip is just fireball skip with rng and a but slower

It's still worth it if you miss fireball

[hearty adder]

Maybe a silly question, but I wanna check just to be sure - the "Hollow Knight - Dream Nail (Boss)" autosplit refers to striking THK with the dream nail to fight the Radiance, right?

[neon island]

I think it refers to the true ending

So it should split when Radiance dies

[limpid ruin]

Yep exactly that, zana

Radiance dying is a cutscene so splits automatically when on final split

[snow dome]

Endings don't have a split in the list

[normal aspen]

its entering rad fight, any ending will autosplity

[neon island]

Oh

[limpid ruin]

We had suggestions of changing it at some point, so not out of the question to do so tbh

Like manual ending splits

[hearty adder]

Pog, ty everyone

[devout nymph]

hey guys, I have a question

This place how to slash “boom”in 1432

[normal aspen]

https://youtu.be/uztaN_toC_U

[twin swallow]

you cant pogo the explosion, only the spore

[normal aspen]

This goes over the easiest method of doing it

[devout nymph]

Omg,thank you bro

[devout nymph]

In1432,the explosion can’t pogo

[twin swallow]

sadly not. you either need to pogo the spore and use the knockback from the explosion to reach the ledge, or do a more difficult setup which can be done damageless: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wdfFMLblz4

[devout nymph]

Thank you!👍

[amber lotus]

Hey all, finishing up a casual playthrough of this and looking to learn the speedrun aftewards... which category would be recommended to learn to start with?

[hearty adder]

any% nmg and All Skills nmg are generally considered to be the most beginner friendly

[amber lotus]

i have a ton of speedrun experience in various games, (done 20+ other games of all genres)... so hoping to be able to pick it up quickly 🙂

I see everyone plays with J-language... any trick specific things for the language, or is it just for textboxes?

[jagged vault]

we play with chinese because it's the fastest language for textboxes

note that you combine having chinese with spamming the text with the Focus, Nail and Jump buttons

those are the inputs that skip text

[limpid ruin]

And if you're ax2u: dream nail as well

[amber lotus]

ah its chinese... didnt look at it close enough. to notice... but at least i can practice on English until i do actual runs

[limpid ruin]

Ngl, I changed to Chinese during initial learning bc dialogue slow 🥴

But yea, you don't have to switch or anything, as long as you have fun tbh

[amber lotus]

still gotta finish my casual playthrough before I start learning it.... but been watching some of the All Skilsl tourny.. until it get to stuff I havent done yet :p

[jagged vault]

yeah, i understand that it might be good to stay on english while getting used to which menus to use etc

for learning all skills, i recommend you check out the tutorial series made by Pisces

i'll link it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCXH-ajD9Dk&list=PLe3Nyw-0gXJpBqG9qLRx195qLFI3FD3_N

[amber lotus]

how many people that have responded... can already see how awesome this community is...

[jagged vault]

gl on learning!

[amber lotus]

and thx for link

[haughty fossil]

secret tech: put the inputs you need to do in the menus in your split names, then you don't have to use your brain at all

[snow dome]

Any% is fine too switch language early because the menuing is both incredibly Obvious (quit/yes) or you just click up once on the stags

[haughty fossil]

... isn't any% stags 1 down every time or am I going crazier than I thought

[snow dome]

I still don't actually know what station I'm about to end up at TBH

[snow dome]

👀

It might be

[fair island]

Click the one you feel is right and roll the dice

[snow dome]

It's been a few weeks

I recently took the staff to the wrong place in All Skills so yaknow I wouldn't trust me

[haughty fossil]

(yeah it is 1d every time)

[snow dome]

f

[elder gale]

i dont get why everyone talks about learning stag names. THERES A PHOTO ON RIGHT LOOK AT IT

i mean yes for the speed its maybe optional to know how much doinw or up but its really minor thing

i just always look the map photo

[hearty adder]

Everyone's already used to reading the names rather than looking at the map

[meager current]

yeah i look at the circles

[hearty adder]

Any% especially creates the habit of not paying attention to the stag prompt at all, i feel

Learning TE & AS has me having to actually pay attention

[meager current]

until you accidentally stag to crossroads instead of dirtmouth right after lurien

[hearty adder]

I just graduated as an official Hollow Knight speedrunner: I got the glitch where the screen won't stop shaking due to killing two WKs at once

Now I need to get the Hornet softlock and I'm all set for success

[digital jewel]

you can fix that one by pausing

[hearty adder]

Yeah, I just let it play out for a bit for my own amusement before pausing

I'm just practicing so it's not a big deal

[neon island]

idk how anybody gets it from WK

In all my time of practicing WKs, I never got it from them once

[muted parcel]

could this be used in hitless runs?

[digital jewel]

that's inventory storage to skip the scream

I also don't know of anyone who does hitless speedruns

[muted parcel]

p5 hitless runs

I think this could be used in other bosses too

[digital jewel]

yes it can

we don't allow it on the leaderboards because it's a glitch

[fair island]

Does the inventory have to be opened before the scream starts?

[digital jewel]

yes

[spice cradle]

we dont like using those in hitless attempts since it's a glitch and it basically kills some bosses like collector

[golden bobcat]

I'm on 40 mins and just upgraded my nail for Fireb0rn's 5 hour guide. Am I on a good pace?

This guide:https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1861523602

[digital jewel]

sounds fine to me

[high hawk]

Low te is so cursed my capture card unplugged mid birb farming

6 hours of speedrun now useless ;w;

[digital jewel]

it's a sign from god

[high hawk]

Meh well screw God's sign I'll have time again next month

[hearty adder]

That's the spirit

Defy god

Run low% te

At least it's not 100% in Baten Kaitos, which takes like two weeks to complete due to one of the items needing a specific amount of hours to upgrade

[harsh mason]

thats fine though

as thats 90% not playing the game

you can actually do that mostly optimal rta

[twin swallow]

ah yes, the legendary shampoo

[hearty adder]

it'd definitely be suffering if the recording got fucked or smth though

[golden bobcat]

I got lost in Crystal peak on the 5 hour guide

[cyan vortex]

you can just save quit tbh

[golden bobcat]

I need DDark

[cyan vortex]

if your previous bench isn't too far away

[golden bobcat]

I’m back at the grub

I did the crushers

I don’t know if I’m on the right track

[cyan vortex]

go through the dark room on the right of the crystal hunters room

[hearty adder]

the grub by the lever? near the crystal hunters?

[golden bobcat]

Yes

[hearty adder]

The first exit to the right leads you to the dark room leading to Descending Dark

[golden bobcat]

Ok

Ty

[hearty adder]

if you go all the way down, you can get the bench before going to Crystallized Mound

[golden bobcat]

I messed up

I fell down to resting grounds

What do I do?

[hearty adder]

Go to the Resting Grounds stag to go back to Forgotten Crossroads

You can get the dreamnail while you're at it

[cyan vortex]

depending on where your previous bench is, save quit can be an option too

[golden bobcat]

The guide tells me to get DDark before Dnail. How much will it mess it up?

[cyan vortex]

It doesn't matter tbh

[golden bobcat]

How do I get to the DDark place without wings?

[cyan vortex]

cdash

[golden bobcat]

Oh

[dull lion]

?srpsa

[sick raven]

Reminder: This category is intended for competitive speedrunning discussion. Questions about achievements should be directed to #hk-help.
Guide for the 5hr speedrunning achievement: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1861523602

[golden bobcat]

I’m dumb

[cyan vortex]

seems like new things appeared while i wasn't watching lmao

[golden bobcat]

I’ve died twice in the DDark segment

[ripe yarrow]

Can i verify a run with the saved archive?

[hearty adder]

What do you mean?

[cyan vortex]

you need video evidence

[ripe yarrow]

Cause my notebook doesn´t allows installing "Net.framework 7", so i can´t install LiveSplit

[cyan vortex]

well you can still have a run verified with video, but it will be measured rta

[ripe yarrow]

Using the archive of my save

[ripe yarrow]

Hmmm, i´ll try installing an app to record the screen

[hearty adder]

So you mean using the in-game timer and save file?

[ripe yarrow]

yeap

[hearty adder]

In-game timer is broken and not used to verify runs

[golden bobcat]

I’ve gotten DDark now but my shade is still in the Crystalized mound. What do I do?

[ripe yarrow]

Oh :/

[golden bobcat]

I have 900 geo on my shade

[hearty adder]

All runs need video evidence, and runs not using Livesplit are timed using real time instead of loadless/in-game time

[golden bobcat]

I don’t know what to do

[ripe yarrow]

Okok

[hearty adder]

You can just go back for it
Though it's been pointed out that questions for the 5 hour achievement should go on #hk-help instead

[golden bobcat]

I’ll probably just die over and over again

Yes

I’m following the 5 hour achievement guide

I can’t use Jiji

[hearty adder]

?srpsa

[sick raven]

Reminder: This category is intended for competitive speedrunning discussion. Questions about achievements should be directed to #hk-help.
Guide for the 5hr speedrunning achievement: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1861523602

[ripe yarrow]

Sorry

[hearty adder]

Also, we can try to help with getting your Livesplit started

[ripe yarrow]

Another question
In what page do i verify my run?

[granite field]

you mean website?

[hearty adder]

You just submit it to https://www.speedrun.com/hollowknight/

[ripe yarrow]

I tried, but this happens

[ripe yarrow]

Yeap, sorry

[hearty adder]

What happens if you click on Yes?

If it doesn't work through Livesplit, you can download the Net.framework version it's asking you to directly from Microsoft's website

[ripe yarrow]

Redirects me to this

[granite field]

you need to make an account on speedrun dot com if you haven't done it yet, then choose the game and submit your run (video evidence needed to be verified)

[hearty adder]

https://www.microsoft.com/es-es/download/details.aspx?id=49982
Get it from here

[ripe yarrow]

And, when i download Net.framework, there´s an error because i have Windows 7

[ripe yarrow]

okok

thanks

[burnt yacht]

So I'm trying to set up my AutoSplit, what's the name for the split for killing THK or do I use my manual keybind?

[fair island]

Killing thk splits by itself (like starting the game)

[burnt yacht]

Oh alr ty!

[hearty adder]

all endings split automatically

[dull lion]

There is no autosplit for killing THK it will automatically split when you do no matter what so just make sure your final split is there for it

[granite field]

Same for Radiance if I remember correctly

[dull lion]

Yeah it’s same for any ending

[granite field]

oh yeah Zana is right 🐌 me

[hearty adder]

I am the king of the snails

[hollow mesa]

So close to sub 5 lol

[jagged vault]

you can do it!

[hollow mesa]

I’m about to start a 112 run, but I’ll absolutely keep my pantheon IL practice up sub 5 p2 and getting consistent sub 7 p4s are what I’ve been gunning for

I’ve been tanking oblobbles too much at the moment to use blackmoon strats

[stone flame]

Hey, how does one learn to run All Skills? The guide seems to be under construction. It's just by watching other people running?

[short spire]

dunno what guide you're looking at but the one linked in the pins is very much complete

there's also a video guide series on youtube by pisces

wait never mind

it's not complete at all sorry

i didnt realise xero is lazy

the video guide is finished though

[stone flame]

Oh ok, I'll look into that. Thanks!

[meager current]

if xero wasnt commentating the all skills race rn they/he/she wouldve seen that

[short spire]

hey @digital jewel you're lazy

thanks for the reminder dont want him to miss that

[meager current]

np

[digital jewel]

[hearty adder]

Grind Mantis Lords and you'll get a sub 5 ez

[steady lynx]

Was excited to do a run but switch is dead... PS4 it is I guess

I have the ps4 wr by default

[limpid dust]

hi is there a save file for queen's garden split in any% available somewhere?

[thorn jasper]

src resources has save files

[limpid dust]

thanks

may I also ask where those are stored, I can't seem to find them in the game folder in steam

[thorn jasper]

?saves

[sick raven]

Saves

---

Windows File Paths: (Assumes Default Steam Install Path, Adjust accordingly for DRM Free or Non-Standard Steam Path)

Game Files: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Hollow Knight\```
** **
Mac File Paths:
```Save Files: ~/Library/Application Support/unity.Team Cherry.Hollow Knight/
Game Files: ~/Library/Application Support/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/hollow_knight.app/```
** **
Linux File Paths:
```Save Files: ~/.config/unity3d/Team Cherry/Hollow Knight/
Game Files: ~/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/```

[limpid dust]

thanks

[meager current]

%appdata%/locallow/teamcherry

i think

oh im snail

[limpid dust]

also one more question ^^ 11bis Teacher's Archive is just before uumuu right?

and monomon is after picking the dreamer?

actually I just checked myself

shouldn't have asked lol

[worthy sluice]

I SUK

Wk is SOOOO HARD

[hollow mesa]

The rest of my run has been bad so far, but 1st try FC

[hearty adder]

What category are you running?

[worthy sluice]

The category where watchers are hard

[carmine yew]

Low% I see

[worthy sluice]

Also known as any%

[hearty adder]

I take it you've watched guides and practiced the damage cycle

[meager current]

true

[worthy sluice]

Thats not watchers thats everything

[strong vessel]

I've been practicing QGA a ton

[hearty adder]

Any% watchers are pretty hard - however, if you find them to be too unbearable, I suggest you try running All Skills instead

[strong vessel]

And I kept falling into the acid on the other side

And then I tried the method where you cancel the c-dash

And why is that so much easier

[hearty adder]

A lot of people find it's more visually clear on when you should jump than just slamming on the wall

[strong vessel]

I mean, I wouldn't have thought that it would make a difference, but I guess it does something subconsciously

[steel kettle]

can using a savestate at times make it possible to clip into ceilings?

[digital jewel]

you also could have accidentally enabled noclip

there's a lot that can go wrong with savestates. make sure you're not on a bench or dying when you load one

[steel kettle]

yeah I don't have clip bound since i just started learning this week. I've been waiting till after a death to completly respond but I can't fall now. I simply just jump and it stops me where I'm at. Weird,

[grizzled maple]

You might have still been on the bench

[digital jewel]

quitout, load your file and then return to savestate

[grizzled maple]

hi btw zeion

[digital jewel]

should fix almost anything

[dry sluice]

sitting on a bench or dying should also fix

[steel kettle]

Hi Emray Told you I'd learn eventually

reloading fixed it thank you! Hornet kiilling me did not lol

[grizzled maple]

Save states can give you all kinds of weird storage. make sure you're in a stable state before reloading. That includes being in the middle of a hazard respawn

[strong vessel]

Idk if I'm confident enough to run QG route

Even if I can do QGA, I feel like I'd just die

[stiff delta]

there is a backup

[strong vessel]

I know

I've been running Deepnest route

[hearty adder]

Queen's Garden can be pretty scary, yeah

[fair island]

Never hurts to believe in yourself

[hearty adder]

The biggest issue is the Mantis arena imo, but once you get the damage cycle memorized it shouldn't be that big of an issue

[strong vessel]

I have it memorized but it doesn't work half of the time :(

I can do that lol

[hearty adder]

once you have an idea of where you need to fall, it's easy to get consistently

[stiff delta]

i mean it only saves 40 seconds and thats if you do it optimally

[strong vessel]

I just keep messing up the first mantis

[strong vessel]

Yeah, that's why I just learned Deepnest route at first, but my runs are starting to get to the point where that time does matter a lot

[stiff delta]

what is your pb?

[strong vessel]

Technically, 44m 09s, but that's literally my only run

I could easily shave off 1-2 minutes with a good Uumuu

I felt like I should start learning the harder, faster routes

[hearty adder]

it will take time, but i'm sure you can do it

[low bramble]

i usually advise ppl to wait until sub 40 to learn qga but if u wanna start learning it now thats no problem

[high hawk]

Optimizing obs rn if I don't stream so much I'm assuming optimize for recordings is better for speedruns?

[fair island]

Yes

[high hawk]

Does streaming also include discord screenshare or just like twitch and stuff?

[low bramble]

just twitch and stuff

[random oak]

okay day 2 of trying to figure out why my pc hates hk. went and bought a 750w bronze corsair power supply and swapped it out due to thinking it was a thermal issue. The problem is the same

Tested other games and can play lost jedi and warzone on high settings at 120+ fps with no drops. Not sure why hollow knight is the problem child of the group

[thorn jasper]

if you're on 1.2.2.1 then hk is certainly a problem child anyway

[digital jewel]

you said that you were getting gpu usage spikes when the fps dropped?

[random oak]

no the psu and gpu plumits

[hollow mesa]

Run died to dying twice in the fog canyon notch room

[digital jewel]

hmm

and did you try lower framerate caps with riviatuner

like 200, 150, 100

[random oak]

just loaded up 1.4.3.2 and it runs at 400+ and doesn't do anything

no drops nothing uncapped

but clearing registry and redownpatching doesn't fix the issue

yeah i just played 1.4.3.2 at 400+ with zero issues through vengeful spirit

i cap 150 on 1.2.2.1 and i'm still dropping like crazy all over the place

[hearty adder]

1221 is very very awful optimization-wise

if you can't find a solution at all, running on cp is also ok

[random oak]

but to the point where i'm losing 300 consistent frames? That seems absurd

what is cp?

[thorn jasper]

cp = current patch

[random oak]

current patch

right

[digital jewel]

yeah I don't get 400+ on cp my pc isn't that good

but 1221 runs fine

the difference shouldn't be so big

[random oak]

i've sunk so many hours into this, i'm at the point where I just want to figure this out lmao

because pc is running great

i'm going to uncap 1.2.2.1 and see what happens

i'm getting anywhere from 340-400

[boreal elm]

how do you do the inventory fall glitch? im on ps4 btw

[meager current]

open inventory the first physics frame the knight leaves the platform

[hearty adder]

It doesn't work the same way in current patch as it used to on older patches

[boreal elm]

oh ok thanks

[random oak]

but still getting dips down to 40 and the game goes into not responding walking into the false knight fight

[steel kettle]

is the lever skip possible on current patch?

[low bramble]

no

[digital jewel]

yeah I really don't know what's up with your pc

[thorn jasper]

how's the cpu doing?

[random oak]

cpu is anywhere from 10-15 the entire time

gpu is at 30-60 depending on the room and dipping down to 5% when it stutters

but again it's only 1.2.2.1

[digital jewel]

what cpu do you have btw? it's not an older architecture right?

[random oak]

1.4.3.2 is 430 frames and silky smooth

ryzen 5 2600x

[digital jewel]

that should be so overkill

I have 1600x lol

[random oak]

i just feel like my 1.2.2.1 is corrupting

is there a way to down patch a steam purchase without using the console?

[carmine yew]

Did you try clearing your hk registry

[random oak]

ye. i mean i haven't since new psu

i know this sounds dumb, but running it as admin wouldn't help would it

[digital jewel]

it could help yeah

actually where is the 1221 folder saved?

like where on your pc?

[random oak]

desktop

[digital jewel]

ok desktop should be fine

[random oak]

should I move it

[digital jewel]

nah

[random oak]

if it's not on the root of the desktop is that bad?

[digital jewel]

idk exactly what you mean

[random oak]

like it's in desktop\games\hollow knight\1.2.2.1

[digital jewel]

it's a shortcut?

yeah that's fine

[random oak]

and then i have a shortcut that goes there

[digital jewel]

I was only asking because there can be permissions issues with stuff in Program Files

but desktop should be totally fine

did admin help?

[random oak]

testing now

does it matter which resolution i use?

or having particle effects on normal or low

[meager current]

low particles is way less laggy

[hearty adder]

if you're having performance issues then yeah, low particles, vsync off

resolution could help

[random oak]

same thing man. i don't get it

[meager current]

i just keep vsync on to save time from changing it 🙂

dont do that tho

[random oak]

i just don't understand how i'm dropping 400 frames in places

[meager current]

it wrecks my computer

[hearty adder]

when doing runs, what other programs do you have up? What do you use for recording?

[random oak]

right now zana i have nothing else open

i'm even closing and reopening discord

the weird thing also was I was playing on 1.2.2.1 just fine like a couple of days ago and sitting at 300ish with no drops

then all of a sudden it started acting up and it won't stop

[digital jewel]

was there a windows update or gpu driver update in that time

[meager current]

you could try get a fresh 1221 game

[random oak]

i have re down patched like three times since yesterday

[meager current]

oh

[random oak]

and cleared registry like 1000000 times lmao

i might have update gpu? possibly?

Should I go to nvidia and reinstall drivers?

[digital jewel]

yeah maybe try to revert to a previous gpu driver

[elder gale]

Btw is it allowed if i just keep my load normalizer In normal runs becouse it doesnt really make big difference for me and im too lazy to remove and reinsert it for every run

[grizzled maple]

#srcom-discussion message
@ tipu

[random oak]

random question. Should I download drivers using geforce experience or just from the website? Would geforce mess with stuff?

[grizzled maple]

as long as it's that version. any version that uses modding api has to be off

[digital jewel]

I don't like using geforce experience

personally

[forest latch]

Ehh.. I have a GeForce GPU, works fine so far
Don't know how old your PC is, but eh

[random oak]

alright well reinstalling the gpu update. and we'll go from there. Appreciate your help everyone. This has been a huge pain in the ass. I'm sorry for blowing you all up

[digital jewel]

no I just feel bad for you

it sucks when everything should work and it doesn't

[verbal junco]

is there such a thing as killing vengefly king TOO fast?
answer: yes

[digital jewel]

technical issues are trash to deal with

[verbal junco]

[twin swallow]

you can do this on the final scream of THK as well and it makes you unable to absorb the infection (:

[random oak]

i just updated gpu and i'm at over 700 frames now???

[verbal junco]

[twin swallow]

but yeah, that can happen. either kill him a bit faster before the scream, or if you know you won't get it in time, take the small time loss

if you're lucky and left one of the small vengeflies alive, he can hit you of it

[limpid dust]

can someone explain me what's going on with my dash just after monomon? like sometimes I should have a dash right after the inventory drop but I don't have it

[haughty fossil]

do a little hop to refresh your dash

the inv drop prevents you from getting your dash back

[digital jewel]

if you use your dash and inventory drop a distance that gives you hardfall, then the game won't register you're on the ground and refresh your dash

[meager current]

yeah i always miss the cdash spot because my dash doesnt refresh

[random oak]

yeah no luck guys

i went from 380 down to 25 and froze for 3s after breaking the door open on false knight

[digital jewel]

ok

[random oak]

wtf lol

[digital jewel]

ok next point of attack

sound drivers?

do you have a sound card or something special?

[random oak]

oooooooooooo

[digital jewel]

did you buy a new headset or something recently