speedrunning

[steady lynx]

You memorized something that's random? Congrats

[vernal zenith]

Thank you, anyrad didn't take long, but calculating everwatchers was taxing

[normal aspen]

Isn't it great how you can say whatever you want on the internet

[vernal zenith]

Wdym

[normal aspen]

calculate it

[vernal zenith]

Idrc if you don't believe me, but it's not an easy thing to do, put hours of work into this and just to have someone not believe you, is kinda disappointing

But we are out own people, meaning you can Beilive what you want to

Sry if I offended you in any way 🤨

Anyways

[normal aspen]

i mean any% wk fundamentally doesnt work like that uless you're playing at a snails pace

[vernal zenith]

Oh I don't use it for speedruns

I did practice attempts on wk to practice for everwatchers

[normal aspen]

so your response to this was based on what exactly

[vernal zenith]

My practice of the boss

[steady lynx]

This message seemed to elude to that you play on console, no?

[vernal zenith]

Correct

Only for mods

Do i play on PC

[normal aspen]

okay but the boss with the any% loadout is fundamentally different because ttk is way higher and you don't have any source of iframes

[vernal zenith]

Correct

[normal aspen]

so to say that any% wk is just a matter of memorising the pattern is borderline delusional

[vernal zenith]

I'm not saying I've perfected the boss in every way, it's just certain ways you can see certain movements that are always the same, it just depends on your definition of memorization

Because I said attack patterns not movement

Because the movement of the knights is exparatic, random, to anyone who doesn't want to sink dozens of hours into work for not a very big part of speedrunning,

[frank fulcrum]

Dang rare instance of this channel being active

[normal aspen]

this is a whole lot of words to say you have no idea how hard or easy any% wk are when you say that they are easy lmao

[vernal zenith]

Ok, i don't know what you have against me and I certainly don't need your approval so can we just drop it, cause I don't want to get frustrated with the amazing people of the community

Ok?

[hidden sundial]

Maybe I'm dumb, but THK has killed far more runs than WK for me

[normal aspen]

so in future maybe dont join cnversations to downplay problems people are having when learning a new run in future yea

[hidden sundial]

Also I am awful at Uumuu, but at least don't die I guess

[vernal zenith]

Understood, I'm new to this kind of thing, so thanks for the advice

[hidden sundial]

I like the WK fight, which I guess made me slightly better at it

[vernal zenith]

@normal aspen I'm curious what's your time for any percent?

[normal aspen]

33:46

[vernal zenith]

Wow

Understood what name?

User*

[normal aspen]

ins0mnia

[vernal zenith]

That's impressive, how long have you been playing

[formal bough]

52nd/879, was 25th/649 at time of run

huh interesting that it's 230 new runners in the past 2 years

[vernal zenith]

Nice?

[formal bough]

I wonder what the new runner graph looks like

[normal aspen]

on and off (mostly off) since 2018

[vernal zenith]

Have you heard of the cake theory, for silksong?

[normal aspen]

yes

[vernal zenith]

The hollow knight community is desperate

For anything

At this point

[normal aspen]

i mean its just a small subsection of the community with no social skills and nothing better to do

and an overdeveloped sense of entitlement

[vernal zenith]

No offense, your good at insulting people

But it's like passive aggression

Again no offense

[normal aspen]

i mean people harassing devs and expecting to be reassured the game still exists every 5 minutes probably deserve insulting

[vernal zenith]

Def

It is just for people that have nothing but time on year hands and decide to waste other people's time

@dark rock have you done the slopeball yet?

[dark rock]

I only managed to do it twice but it's obviously still not consistent

[normal aspen]

Are you capping fps

[vernal zenith]

What does that change with the slopeball?

[vernal zenith]

Nice, 2 times is still better than I've ever done

[weary root]

slopeball is really inconsistent at higher fps

[vernal zenith]

Ah ok makes sense

[weary root]

at 50 fps it's 100% consistent as long as you're positioned right

postioning right is still really hard for a lot of them though

[vernal zenith]

Hm, well if you play on certain consoles you can cap your fos at a certain rate, but idk about PC

[weary root]

all consoles are capped to 60 by default

[vernal zenith]

Fps*

[weary root]

which is why it sucks so much to play on them cause you get more input lag

[vernal zenith]

Yep but from there you can change it, most people just change it to, no fps cap

[weary root]

hmm I thought consoles were locked to 60

[vernal zenith]

Maybe, I play on a steam deck which is considered console, it's like the steam version of Nintendo

[weary root]

ah yeah steam deck is a lot less restrictive than like switch or xbox

[vernal zenith]

Correct

Idk about the other 2 consoles tho

@weary root have you played any randomizers

[azure nest]

not really a speedrun, but I followed the speedrun route, soooo... close enought to me!!! this would be last place on speedrun . com btw

[vernal zenith]

What are you talking about, that's definitely a speedrun, nice job

[normal aspen]

eisog has played a lot of rando yeah

[vernal zenith]

I'm think of doing more true ending speedruns? Do you have any suggestions for specific runs

[inland mirage]

do you mean categories with specific runs?

[vagrant warren]

Steam deck runs either the windows or linux build of HK, I don't think it would submit under consoles on the leaderboards since it wouldn't even be on the same version #

Although I'm not a verifier so maybe they make an exception? Would be weird to count a platform that's moddable as a console tho

[normal aspen]

It's prob be considered a PC run

[analog pawn]

yeah pc

[frank fulcrum]

Nah I feel the same thk is far more harder then watchers

[normal aspen]

LP thk is definitely rough, but for 1221 thk is significantly easier

[hidden sundial]

Yeah I guess that's a big factor I did not mention

[frank fulcrum]

I do any% with shade soul though so I might change opinion when I try watchers nail 0 + VS

[normal aspen]

Def means you have to deal with two alive at one time a lot more often, and in general you have to live longer, but if you have a feel for it it shouldn't be an impossible jump

Main thing is you're still learning it without shade cloak/dive which is a lot of the difficulty

[frank fulcrum]

I am pretty bad at ussing shade soul so the fight last like 4-5 mins

[analog pawn]

I find watchers to be a lot more difficult to do fast after surviving both consistently not being the issue anymore

And yeah lp thk is quite rough

[normal aspen]

Yeah imo it's kinda of a bell curve of wk harder to survive > thk harder > wk harder to do fast

Coz ultimately (1221) thk ends up with very set rotations for most attacks

Whereas wk has far more different scenarios/decision making re when to spend casts / take damage to be fast

Also gm gusten

[steady lynx]

At least Uumuu is easy to optimize

[normal aspen]

Don't be sad

[steady lynx]

I get sad

[normal aspen]

Imagine if shitposting didn't exist and we needed to actually form personalities

[steady lynx]

I'm a professional shitposter at this point

[normal aspen]

My most like tweet is loss made of storerooms barrel hitboxes does that count

[steady lynx]

Yeah that's good enough

[still lodge]

I get sad when I see others get angry at Horse. Sad, because I know that they’re actually horse at themselves, for having terrible Watcher Horse and Horse Knight fights. Because Horse is so easy to optimize, they take their horse out on him, becoming more and more horse and never horsing their own personal horses. I just wish more people understood that Horse doesn’t ruin runs: speedrunners ruin horses.

[steady lynx]

I get sad when I see others get angry at Horse. Sad, because I know that they’re actually horse at themselves, for having terrible Watcher Horse and Horse Knight fights. Because Horse is so easy to optimize, they take their horse out on him, becoming more and more horse and never horsing their own personal horses. I just wish more people understood that Horse doesn’t ruin runs: speedrunners ruin horses.

[weary root]

I get sad when I see others get angry at Horse. Sad, because I know that they’re actually horse at themselves, for having terrible Watcher Horse and Horse Knight fights. Because Horse is so easy to optimize, they take their horse out on him, becoming more and more horse and never horsing their own personal horses. I just wish more people understood that Horse doesn’t ruin runs: speedrunners ruin horses.

[steady lynx]

Surely the mods just don't care about this chat enough to stop the copypasta

[sacred thunder]

Would be funny to find the last post in here from a mod which isn’t cuz someone pinged them

[azure nest]

Is the time on the end card real time? Now that I think about it, it doesn't really make since to be load removed....

[steady lynx]

End card time is almost real time that the save has been open

So it doesn't count quitouts, and we don't count it as the real time for speedrun submissions

Also it's horribly broken on older patches and will sometimes just say that your playtime is 3 seconds or something

[weary root]

some games do have inbuilt loadless timers which are accurate

hollow knight just isn't one of them

[steady lynx]

Celeste, Bo, etc

[normal aspen]

Time on the end card is just the game blindly throwing a dart at a board

[azure nest]

Thankies... then the time I posted earlier might just maybe not be last place on 112% APB

Still would have to record the actual run, lol

[steady lynx]

All in due time

[weary root]

if you want help setting up obs and livesplit there are guides in the pinned speedrunning discord

[azure nest]

I'll probably do that later today... and then do my next run like tomorrow morning

[steady lynx]

Good luck beating Simo

[azure nest]

I'll try my best!!! I might have already beaten him with the time up there, lols

[weary root]

we're nearly at a hundred 112 runs 😮

[azure nest]

Just need like 5 more!!! Woooooow

[light basin]

my pb is 1hour 43 mins

i suck at speedrunning

[azure nest]

For... any%??? What category bruv???

[steady lynx]

Just count the AG runs as well

[light basin]

Glitches

i forgot like all of them

😭

wr is like 3mins

💀

[azure nest]

Glitches are hard to do right and take precision, I'm sure after practice and knowing how to do the glitches properly, you'll get it down there... I believe in you!!!

[dark rock]

what is the best way to make slope ball more consistent?

[steady lynx]

Probably using the setups where possible or practicing way too much

[vernal zenith]

Interesting

[vernal zenith]

Like someone said yesterday, set your ping to 50 fps,

[dark rock]

is that the only thing you can do to make it more consistent?

[steady lynx]

Here's something, something, area

[vernal zenith]

That's high

[lime arrow]

ah yes, ping in a single player game that does nothing with the internet (unless modded)

[vernal zenith]

Yeah, i learned that yesterday

[still lodge]

how do i set my ping in hollow knight?

[wraith trellis]

Enable the frame rate cap from the in-game options. By default it's at like 400 which makes it rather useless, so you need to change this value by editing the file named config.ini in the game's files. It should be somewhere like Hollow Knight\hollow_knight_Data\config.ini

And to find you hollow knight files you can do this:

[river axle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/910762350267744276/910763275988369438/hk_browse_local_files.png

[north cliff]

How accurate is fireborns any% nmg tutorials for someone who's never speed run hollownight ever before?

[vagrant warren]

Some of the fight info & stuff is still good but Lep's vids are more up to date

[north cliff]

Okay.

[vernal zenith]

I haven't seen them, are they any good

[north cliff]

I don't know. I've been playing around in Hollowknight for a long time and just recently decided to start learning how to speedrun my favorite game.

[vernal zenith]

It's my favorite metrodvania

[dark rock]

i've used it to get my 2nd ever playtrough in around 4 hours

[vernal zenith]

Nice

[azure nest]

okie so I found out the auto splitter is really tedious :3

[weary root]

why is it tedious?

if you mean in terms of making splits you can get pre-made splits from hksplitmaker.com

[azure nest]

nah, the splits themselves are fine, but you have to set every time the thing will auto split, because it won't do it itself

[weary root]

the premade splits will come with autosplits ^

[azure nest]

mine didn't :3
and I used the hk split maker site thingy

[weary root]

ah yeah they lose them if you haven't activated the autosplitter yet

if you redownload it should work

[azure nest]

so it didn't work... I tried to reinstall live splitter 3 times, and tried 3 differant ways and none of them worked, I did the first split to check (fury is close so I didn't mind, lol)

[weary root]

reinstalling livesplit won't help cause that will just deactivate the autosplitter again

[azure nest]

well, I uninstalled it, activated the autosplitter and then tried to connect the splits and then it didn't work (and then differant versions of that, oop)

[weary root]

did you redownload the splits?

[azure nest]

yea, at least one of those times

[weary root]

and was the autospiltter activated before you imported the new splits?

[azure nest]

Okies... on the 5th try (I swear I did that exact thing at least twice) it now does it right... thankies!!!!!

[vernal zenith]

What's an autosplitter?

[weary root]

The autosplitter reads the game and splits when it sees certain game actions occur

it also removes load times which vary wildly from pc to pc

[vernal zenith]

Why would people use that?

[formal bough]

Like, the automatic splitting or the load time removal?

[still lodge]

because as speedrunners we like to make things as complicated as possible

[formal bough]

Because if we required buying expensive, top of the line computers to compete at a competitive level it would be bad

[weary root]

This might be unclear, it doesn't remove the loads it just stops the timer while the game is loading

[vernal zenith]

Ah, ok

[torn prawn]

i want to start speedrunning pop again, is there any tool for quick reset?

[normal aspen]

The minisavestate mod is legal for runs and can be used to reset instantly

[dark rock]

changing my fps cap to 50 for the slope ball made it so much better, i got it twice one after the other

[sick lagoon]

how hard is it to get the shade skip to the palace grounds in basin?

[vagrant warren]

I think getting the shade to fireball properly is the trickiest part

[vernal zenith]

What would be the point of shade skipping into palace grounds

[formal bough]

the question makes more sense in a #randomizer context

[weary root]

or an ASS context

[formal bough]

true

[steady lynx]

I wonder if we've ever named something just because of a funny acronym

[formal bough]

nah that doesn't sound possible

all stag stations is the only possible way to name that run, and the fact that the acronym is thus ASS is merely an unfortunate coincidence

[steady lynx]

anyway, I'll go back to my glitched runs, Bench Out Of Bounds is really useful for that

[sick lagoon]

i give up already its gonna be way easier to just get monarch wings this mf does not want to use the spell and the one time it did just now it was the wrong way :(

[steady lynx]

Yeah, the Shade only fireballs when you don't want it to

[normal aspen]

Also keep in mind that the shade only has limited casts (1+number of extra soul vessels) so if it casts then you need to reset the room

[mighty hornet]

Is anyone familiar with getting live split running on steam deck? I've got the addon/plug-in added to obs, and put wasm into it. But I think I'm having issues with the portion in the instructions to give obs permission to read other memory processes.
I've run both the lines of code in the terminal that are meant to fix this, but live split is still not starting when I start a new game

[weary root]

I would recommend joining the speedrunning server ( link in the pins^ ) and asking in #tech-support

[blazing quarry]

i just speedran the game for the first time!!

fye

[formal bough]

awesome!

[mighty hornet]

Thank you!

[final ember]

Is it just me or is the fireball skip on keyboard so inconsistent

[normal aspen]

are you using socd cleaner + quick cast

[final ember]

Using quick cast but not socd cleaner

Lemme check it out

Bro this would have helped so much in my randos

[normal aspen]

yeag its very helpful

[azure nest]

I got a 6 and a half hour 112% APB run... it would have been my first complete one... but I just found out that broken fragile charms don't count towards percentage... and as such, not a complete run

[ember tundra]

Got my first sub 1hr speedrun yesterday!

It's definitely not good, but it's the best i have done :)

[knotty vigil]

i finished hollow knight in 30 hours

[olive tide]

is that a world record???

[green belfry]

how to do mms for world record\

[weary root]

join the pinned speedrunning server and check # any-percent-glitched, there's a pin in that channel that has an old tutorial

also a ton of people there who can help if you have questions

[green belfry]

where

how

when

why

who

[weary root]

check the pins of this channel

[fresh sonnet]

How do I check my fps on a console

[vagrant warren]

consoles are locked to 60 fps

[fresh sonnet]

So they don't drop at all

[vagrant warren]

They shouldn't unless there's something wrong with your console or your isntall

[fresh sonnet]

Is 60 enough to preform all of the skips for speedrunning

[vagrant warren]

generally yes, although it can make certain things more difficult.

But leaderboards are seperated, so there's no disadvantage

[fresh sonnet]

I'm having trouble with QGA rn, and I know it's difficult but I feel like my timing should be correct, but idk I might just be doing something wrong

[vagrant warren]

It's very precise, also make sure you do not have Ismas

[proud folio]

qga is not frame dependent

timing is the easy part, the hard part is getting the correct height on the wall

if the wall does not fully encompass the knight’s hitbox you can’t cdash at all

[fresh sonnet]

Can you explain that a little more?

I mean I get the height thing

[proud folio]

your knight hitbox is a yellow rectangle

it is impossible to cdash in the left case

[fresh sonnet]

That's why it feels weird

That makes a lot of sense

Are there videos and stuff that I can look at to see the hit boxes when getting onto walls and stuff

[proud folio]

for qga you also option select

once you get on the wall, cdash first and then press jump

if you’re too high, the cdash will cancel and you’ll wall jump

if you aren’t then you’ll just cdash and jump gets cancelled

this is what it looks like without hitboxes

[fresh sonnet]

Whenever I cancel the c-dash at the end should I touch the wall or is using wings ok?

[proud folio]

you definitely don’t have time to use wings

[fresh sonnet]

Ok

[proud folio]

wings dips you down

hit the wall then wj off it

[fresh sonnet]

Ok

It definitely feels a lot more possible now

I did it

[frank fulcrum]

Oh u need to be a bit below?
Ic

[deep tangle]

@vestal venture

Ah sorry

[livid citrus]

Just switched to 1 2 2 1 version and my game crashes when I try to install Debug Mod from Scarab, whats the problem?

[wraith trellis]

Scarab and Lumafly only work on current patch, on 1221 mods must be manually installed

?tag 1221

[river axle]

Current 1221 Modding Resources

The Modding API is not allowed to be installed for most runs. This is used for practice purposes.

• HK Speedrun Community Discord
• Video Guide 🎦
• [Basic Installation Instructions](#modding-discussion message)
• Resources Repo

Assembly Files

You can only use one of these

• Modding API: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/822611561427370054/835911691703156746/Assembly-CSharp.dll
• Modding API with Adjustable Screenshake: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1098732512844456016/1102778898430824559/Assembly-CSharp.dll
• MiniSaveStates: Github
  • Note: MiniSaveStates is not compatible with other 1221 mods, but it is allowed for IL runs.
• Adjustable Screenshake: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1098732512844456016/1100137284667445408/Assembly-CSharp.dll
  • Note: This Adjustable Screenshake is not compatible with other 1221 mods, but it is allowed for runs.

Common Mods for 1221

A ModdingApi must be installed to use these

• Debug: Github
• Benchwarp: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/822611561427370054/835455873212088360/Benchwarp.zip
• HKTimer: Github

[vestal venture]

lmao I haven’t been active here for months and I get this @ TWT

[livid citrus]

thanks

[deep tangle]

[livid citrus]

Also in newer versions I used to attack and cast spells on my mouse buttons, but in 1 2 2 1 when the game starts they just doesnt work

[wraith trellis]

Yeah, those don't work on 1221. To fix that you can join the server linked in the pins and get either blue.exe or turquoise.exe from the resources there

[livid citrus]

When I start the run, in like 50% of them this mosquito is just to far for me to agr him and then pogo. Anybody knows whats the problem? I get there in about 22-23 seconds usually

[steady lynx]

The problem is that it's RNG

There's nothing you can do about it

To be clear, if Jinkie (That's what we call that asshat) is on the left you can go down and left further to agro him and then do the pogo strat

It loses a bit of time, but if 0.5 seconds is the difference on if you'll PB or not in any% I envy you

[analog pawn]

alternatively you can always do the optimal jump and reset if it is too far away

[steady lynx]

Alternatively Alternatively you can run any% NMMS on good patch and badfloat to cliffs and then go down to Greenpath, kill Hornet, get dash, quitout back to KP, pogo the object and dash to skip Jinkie completely

[stable moon]

alternatively alternatively alternatively you can keep going left and pogo Jinkie onto that left platform. This can be faster at low fps for left spawns

[grim bluff]

alternatively alternatively alternatively alternatively hi speedrun channel how is life

im good

[frank fulcrum]

I just thought I had a skill issue

[steady lynx]

Nah, it's Jinkie that's having a skill issue

[willow adder]

Hello

[turbid patio]

Jinkie sucks

[steady lynx]

Vengeflies in King's Pass have a 2/3 track record of being extremely annoying

Only the one without a name doesn't suck

[tardy lion]

Well I see a correlation there

Give it a name and see if it also sucks

[wooden grotto]

Here's a genuine question for speedruning. Are you allowed to use skins during real time runs? (I don't plan on modding nor speedruning but just a question)

[steady lynx]

Using mods is not allowed for speedruns submitted to the main or meme boards with extremely strict exceptions

Even having modding api on the install the run is on leads to the run getting rejected instantly

Some modified assemblies are allowed, like screenshake remover on some older patches and a load extender for some patches

[turbid patio]

If you want to be on the leaderboards then no but noonrs stopping you if you don't

[crystal stream]

is there a specific name for when you dash off a wall then doublew jump up to the next wall
like going under a ledge to get on top of it

[potent flume]

Parkour probably

[tardy lion]

Would manually the texture files be ok then?

[thorn jasper]

no

[steady lynx]

<@&283547423706447872> I heard you like free gift cards

[south herald]

Ye

[tardy lion]

[frank fulcrum]

They took my gift cards

[regal horizon]

hi im new to speedrunning and im trying to setup a downpatch and its not working

im using leps video

[weary root]

What exactly is going wrong?

[regal horizon]

its booting up current patch instead of 1221

ive checked the .txt file and nothing is wrong with that so im confused

[weary root]

Can you send a picture of the folder contents that the .txt is in?

[regal horizon]

yeah but ive gotta send it in #hk-help cause im new to the server

[weary root]

👍

[regal horizon]

#hk-help message

[regal horizon]

@jagged turtle this person has an nsfw name

[minor heron]

How do i submit a run on speedrun.com?

[minor heron]

Yeah i didnt understand some of the options i got it now thanks

[robust axle]

I defeated Hornet Protecter in 24 minutes is that fast?
-# I'm a new Speedrunner

[heavy topaz]

Pretty fast

[robust axle]

Yippee

[heavy topaz]

If u just play the game a lot u will probably do it in 5 minutes

[robust axle]

Five-

HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE

[heavy topaz]

Idk

[vagrant warren]

the whole game can be beaten in like 5 mins

[heavy topaz]

I aint speedrunner

[robust axle]

What.

[heavy topaz]

I think most of the best can do it in 16

[heavy topaz]

Well u new and have long way to go

[vagrant warren]

If you're glitching 16 is quite slow, if you're not glitch 16 is not possible. Also ping isn't needed, thanks

[heavy topaz]

(And im not any speedrunner)

[heavy topaz]

What?

[vagrant warren]

?tag noping

[river axle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/462200562620825600/919850262959640596/dontpingplz.png

[heavy topaz]

Im sawy what

[sturdy glade]

Nmg is over 30 minutes and all glitches is under 5

[vagrant warren]

I'm literally right here, and this is also not important, you don't need to reply ping me

[heavy topaz]

Ik

Thats just a bad habit i have

[formal bough]

nmms is 15 minutes tbf

[sturdy glade]

Fwiw considering how far away ke is from kings pass 5 minutes could be hard

Still a lot of rooms to dupe

This crash out was not called for bro

[heavy topaz]

its takes me 5 minutes to get fury of the fallen. (noticed that im wrong and it actually takes me one minute xd)

[heavy topaz]

K

Sawy

[vagrant warren]

that's almost impressive||ly slow||

[sturdy glade]

Idrc but generally the speedrun community doesn't like pings

[heavy topaz]

Colette ikr

[shell spindle]

Me who loves yesping

[stable quarry]

You can a. Use glitches and get hornet in like 1- 2 minnutes or b. Do an ultra difficult itemless baldur kill that I beleve no one has done in a run yet. Some people have done it in practice though

In nmg iirc 7-8 min hornet is really good because we spend ~4 minnutes getting vengeful spirit first so that we can kill the baldur and have decent dps for what ever we do after.

[normal aspen]

been done in a bunch of meme cats

but yeah nobody has an any% pb with it

[steady lynx]

A1uba% wr did it right

[normal aspen]

al1ba, 4mo 0 geo, i think all breakable charms?

[steady lynx]

It should be faster for Myla%

But nobody wants to run that

[normal aspen]

its also just a case of the more cats have it the more cats need it

i think its prob the future of hk speedrunning for most short cats, i just dont wanna learn it

[heavy topaz]

is it fast beating false knight 10 minutes after start?

[steady lynx]

Feels very similar to the slopeball scenario, people used to say nobody would do it and now it's everywhere on LP NMG

Just need a new generation that's willing to do it

It's still the reason I quit running nmg, don't get me wrong

[normal aspen]

ill stick to my lil funny skips atp

kinda want to get more into deco master stuff / get one into a marathon

[turbid patio]

Not particularly

[heavy topaz]

Well for a non speedrunner

[turbid patio]

if you know the way then still no

[sturdy glade]

Just run Gusten patches

[steady lynx]

I quit 1.3 though

I'm still there in spirit for anyone who installs 1.3 debug

[sturdy glade]

Yeah that's beyond Gusten patch stupid

[hallow saddle]

I had a glitch occur a few times for me where dash into jump seemed to transfer horizontal momentum into vertical. I think I saw a speedrunner do it. Is this a thing? How do?

[vagrant warren]

Sounds like what is usually referred to as a trans dash, and you do it just by dashing close to a wall then jumping

[empty summit]

its right here man

[frank fulcrum]

Should have turned off ping smh

[empty summit]

oh whoops

[tall charm]

???????

[empty summit]

idk what kaan and the other guy were talking about its literally the very first pin right at the top

[tall charm]

thanks mobile xd

[sacred thunder]

Reply pinging a pinned message

[tall charm]

i wouldve noticed if it wasnt cut off at the end

i mean

it is cut off

but its cut off in such a strange way

[empty summit]

vgery sorry simo please dont ban me it wont hhappen again😭😭😭😭😭

[tall charm]

i blame discord mobile

for being bad

[sacred thunder]

In the modding channels they actually spent the time to make it so the highlight is useful

[frank fulcrum]

?ban grimmfan

Shoot didn't work

[empty summit]

how could you do this to me riyal

i thought we were buddies

[tall charm]

@proven halo server is here if youre still interested

[frank fulcrum]

Uh it was a typo I swear

[sacred thunder]

Either by just containing the title forcing you to click to see the full thing, or by containing what you want

[tall charm]

it is so bad it made grimmfan ping simo because of how terrible it is

[proven halo]

Wait where at?

[empty summit]

yeah its not my fault guys i swear its kaan on discord mobile thats why

[proven halo]

OOOOHHH IM STUPID

The pin made it look like it didn't have anything else

[tall charm]

yes

[proven halo]

Thanks frfr

[tall charm]

blame discord mobile for being the worst designed most useless application ever made

[empty summit]

real shit

[proven halo]

Hey does anyone know why livesplit isn't starting automatically

Like when I turn the timer on myself it'll auto split when I get to certain objectives but for some reason it doesn't start at the start of the game

[weary root]

Look at the autosplitter settings and if its on then turn off start triggering autosplit

[proven halo]

Ooohhh so it needs to be off to start immediately?

I thought it was like when it's start transitioning

[weary root]

start triggering autosplit starts the timer on whatever your first autosplit is

[proven halo]

It worked thank you so much

[weary root]

with it off the timer automatically starts on game start

np gl on your runs

also if you're ending by beating the game make sure end triggering autosplit is off

[proven halo]

Thx lol

Which actually that reminds me

So I'm doing like just a short speed run of my own from start to hornet

And I was wondering how I get the timer to stop when I beat hornet

[weary root]

ah in that case you want to have end triggering autosplit on

and have your last split be getting dash maybe?

[proven halo]

But that's for the games ending is it not?

Wait oh I'm stupid I misread your last message 😭

[weary root]

yeah the autosplitter splits automatically on game start and game end

[proven halo]

Ic, so it'll stop once I get dash if I put that as the last split?

[weary root]

yeah

there might be a hornet (defeted) split i'm not sure

yeah you could have it split on hornet 1 (boss) if you want instead

[static umbra]

hello, im extremely new to speedrunning (but have dumped a lot of time into hollow knight in general) and i just got a 1 hr 19 min any% no major glitch speedrun on the current patch (im aware that some lower patch is faster becuz it has more tricks but im not extremely serious about speedrunning so idc about that). i basically just follow the usual any% nmg routing but without a lot of the advanced movement skips/tech, like inventory dropping, fireball skips, queens gardens acid skip, e-pogo, etc. i still do a squit pogo in greenpath and the acid skip to archive tho. and the shade skip into blue lake. and i enter deepnest through fungal instead of queens gardens. also i did die to watcher knights 3 times and uumuu once (and no deaths on thk), im not sure how much time loss that amounted to tho.
so what i want to ask about is: my main goal is to get a sub one hour run any% nmg on current patch. based on the stuff i described about my run so far, what kind of skips should i be looking to include into my run? or is it possible that my deaths against the bosses amount to over 20 mins in time loss?

[sturdy glade]

Learn gp fb skip, practice wk, and just learn good movrment for rooms

Deepest is totally viable and only loses ~40s

[vagrant warren]

Honestly, just cleaning up movement & fights will get you there. Fireball skip only saves a couple seconds over squit pogo.

[sturdy glade]

I missed that they were doign squit, yeah don't worry ab that

[static umbra]

yea the time losses from dying to the bosses was really over 20 mins, i just did another attempt

im extremely happy about this time, thats really all i wanted to achieve, a sub one hour

[unborn barn]

Hey, I'm new to discord, I'm trying to get the dashless epogo together to have a go at a first Low % run but I can't find any tutorials and I have quite made the gap yet. Any pointers?

console run

[formal bough]

#822611544231772170 message

[unborn barn]

legend

thanks!

I was using his speedrun for reference but haven't cracked it

[green shore]

Hi! I’m trying to get into speedrunning hollow knight and I was wondering if anyone has any good resources to use for setting up timers/recording runs/repeating rooms for practice?? I don’t really know what I need to do for all that

[sturdy glade]

1. Join the speedrunning discord (pins) 2. Get live split 3. Obs 4. Debug mode

[formal bough]

(plus minisavestates potentially)

[sturdy glade]

Oh yeah

[green shore]

Thanks!

[upbeat pasture]

26 minutes for mantis claw, so slow

this is my 1st attempt at speedrunning

but slow

[hidden sundial]

It'll get better. Time reductions come with practice

[upbeat pasture]

yeah, the run is at 41 minute, just beat soul master

[sturdy glade]

If you're doing an any% speedrun, it is probably in your best interest to go for lantern instead of dive

Unless you're getting descending dark

[upbeat pasture]

1hr 19min got monarch wings

actually i am doing that 5hr achievement and as i was told that it is easy i am not trying any obscure skips

casually taking all dreamers and it won't even be 3hrs (prb)

[sturdy glade]

Lantern isn't a skip, it's just a normal path to cpeak that's usually faster

[tardy lion]

d diving is really fun tho

[turbid patio]

for the 5 hour achivement for a new player getting dive is supe rhelfupl

[fresh sonnet]

Can you still do fireball skips if you have Claw, for practice and stuff

[tardy lion]

Yes you can, don’t see how having claw would have any effect on fireball skip (?)

[fresh sonnet]

No, I practiced for a while, I just really sucked at fireball skips, I thought that mabey it would zip you to the wall similar to ismas, but no I just wasn't doing it right

[weary root]

make sure you're using quick cast, not focus, to cast

[analog vault]

Anyone know a tutorial for any%? I dont know how to do room duping or where to go from there

[weary root]

This is a little outdated but it's the best there is right now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkJ7TI4d0EQ&t=452s

I'd recommend joining the speedrunning server and asking in # any-percent-glitched if you have questions

[analog vault]

Thanks

I mainly need to know how to get early control when using stag so this should work

Although in retrospect it appears as though im an idiot and forgot how stags work

[upbeat pasture]

Nah, i barely got 1800 geo before dive

Although i'd still need it for deepnest

[turbid patio]

You get more money with different routing

[sturdy glade]

Yeah you can get a LOT of money with the right routes

[upbeat pasture]

hope that charmless nail only ascended is enough to train for watcher knights in speedrun

[hidden sundial]

It certainly does a lot for learning the fight and dodging, but for speedrunning purposes I'd really try to include VS in the mix

[upbeat pasture]

ok

vengy helps fr

got from 5 attempts or something

[upbeat pasture]

all dreamers taken at 2hrs 12mins

now beat HK with 5 masks and channelled nail

[weary root]

The best way to practise would be to use debug mod and do the fight with the equipment you'll actually have in the run

[upbeat pasture]

9 more mins to end the run

and the speedrun 2 achievement gotten

[turbid patio]

gg

[thorn jasper]

did you post biblical script in the #speedrunning channel in the Hollow Knight Discord server? not even a good troll

[hidden sundial]

In the first day, God created rando

[mossy brook]

Where kjv

[turbid patio]

Most mid troll

[tardy lion]

understanding the creation and begining of the world is crucial for speedrunning hk

[upbeat pasture]

So true

[tardy lion]

Oops

[quick dragon]

Got a very nice set of achievements

Not bad for a first try (both SS and speedrunning)

Lol, it was 4:44 too

[remote vortex]

e pogo work on current patch?

[vagrant warren]

Not in the same way (cannot pogo the explosion) but yes

[cursive briar]

[turbid patio]

Lp epogo is peak

[still lodge]

callipogo specifically is peak

[steady lynx]

pantapogo tho

[turbid patio]

idk the names 😔

[low zodiac]

can I bind 2 different keys for the same action or is that counts as a macro?

[steady lynx]

2 keys for one action is allowed
1 key for multiple actions is not allowed

[low zodiac]

Okay, thx

[low zodiac]

How can i do it?

[steady lynx]

I have not the slightest idea, I play on controller

[low zodiac]

Is the ahk-scripts allowed for it?

[steady lynx]

I'd have to ask Staxis, I know he's used multiple jump buttons in the past

[vagrant warren]

If you're on steam, you can just switch the binds in the controller settings (even for keyboard I'm pretty sure)

[low zodiac]

I wanna say you about i am waiting

[viral mango]

can anyone help me cause ive been trying to beat soul master and i wanna know the best charms to use

[low zodiac]

In hallownest?

[viral mango]

city of tears

soul sanctum ;-;

[low zodiac]

Shaman stone + spell twister.

[viral mango]

whats spell twister

[low zodiac]

In soul sanctum, right before room with soul master go up

[viral mango]

oh thank u :3

[weary root]

This is probably a better question for #hk-help than speedrunning

[viral mango]

Oh Srry ;-;

[weary root]

All good, it's just more likely it will get answered and the answers will be focused on a casual playthrough rather than going fast

[weary root]

Fire hasn't had any% nmg WR since 2020, he's not even in the top 10 atm
you can submit runs to speedrun.com/hollowknight
most geo collected is not a category that exists however

[vernal zenith]

Sadly 😥

[abstract brook]

rip fire 😦

quantem discord entaglement?

[shell spindle]

They cloned themselves

[turbid patio]

Now skate holda the 1221 Amy percent revord

It's been like that for 2 years

[steady lynx]

<@&283547423706447872>

I can't think of a joke here

[grim iron]

Done

Thanks for the ping

[south herald]

likely a scam

[steady lynx]

The $50 steamrcommunity gift card is common nowdays

[shell spindle]

Wtf mods keeping the $50 gift card for themselves

Gimme

[turbid patio]

Rikki should speederun

[steady lynx]

<@&283547423706447872> more money this time

[analog pawn]

mods getting all the money

[frank fulcrum]

stop informing mods about the money dude 😔

[shell spindle]

Speedrun hk any% 3hrs

Brooo I missed the money again

[still lodge]

finished my first any% run! is this good?

[tardy lion]

First run, less than 34 minutes, ok

[steady lynx]

It's decent

[weary root]

you should try 112% next I've heard it's a popular category

[turbid patio]

You should run AS cara

[still lodge]

which one

you'll get One (1) run out of me as reward

[still lodge]

will try! it looks very hard though.

[steady lynx]

AS AG

[still lodge]

well all glitches doesnt necessarily specify that i have to use all glitches

if i run nmg route but do televator, can i submit that to ag

[steady lynx]

I think that'd be NMMS

Which is close enough

It should be NMG, since televator should be allowed in NMG

[still lodge]

so true

[analog pawn]

just do a 1221 run but get igmms

[still lodge]

i would but i dont know what igmms is D:

[turbid patio]

The joke is you have already run AS

[still lodge]

oh

i forgot i had a submitted run 😭

dont look at abyss climb

[turbid patio]

Lmai

[burnt current]

#hk-meme

[still lodge]

#speedrunning

[burnt current]

#hk-meme

[steady lynx]

#1325906318137102346

[heavy topaz]

is 2 hours 16 minutes and 9 seconds good for a first speedrun?

[turbid patio]

Do you know thr proper spedrun route?

[heavy topaz]

||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkRKZHJXZRE || I watched thid

[turbid patio]

Then it's alr

[heavy topaz]

k

[turbid patio]

The 5 hour speedrun guides male things comfy snd take inopyimal routes, good for the achievements but not the best if you want the best time

2hours following a 5 hour route sounds good tho gg

[heavy topaz]

ty

im glad i beat his time in the vid

his was 2 hours and 20 minutes

[turbid patio]

Oh nice

[heavy topaz]

since me bored

me gonna speedrun getting to salubra

[turbid patio]

Lmao

Goodluck Itemless salubra shade skip

[heavy topaz]

and i just did the inventory thing in beginning

[turbid patio]

Gg

[heavy topaz]

took way to long

6 minutes

[turbid patio]

Sadge

What did you do

[heavy topaz]

i got out of kings pass

go down in crosswards

killing the mini boss

doing the shade skip

and accentently killed the shade

[turbid patio]

Did you bench at the stag

[heavy topaz]

so i had to redo

[turbid patio]

Nooooo

[heavy topaz]

yes

[turbid patio]

Cool

Killing yhe shade is tragix

[heavy topaz]

yea

[sturdy glade]

Why you doing itemless shade 😭

Oh sorry just to salubra that's reasonable

[turbid patio]

finishing a run is so hard

[still lodge]

youre supposed to be finishing runs? i thought speedrunning was about resetting early game

[weary root]

yeah that's why we invented ibaldur

[turbid patio]

oh it seems i was doing stuff wrong, thanks cara

[still lodge]

no worries! always happy to help newer runners

[turbid patio]

surely i actually do one run today, i jsut want one then i can do individual segments is that too much to ask

[still lodge]

surely

[heavy topaz]

why you guys putting 20$ gift card here?

[steady lynx]

The gift cards are for the mods, we're supposed to ping the mods whenever it's posted so they can take the money

[heavy topaz]

oh

[steady lynx]

||it's actually a scam, you ping the mods so they can remove it||

[heavy topaz]

?

[sturdy glade]

Did you read the spoiler

If you click on the ||deez nuts||, you see the message

[half bough]

whats yalls speedrunning records?

[heavy topaz]

2H 16M 09s

[half bough]

damn thats fast

mine is 2h 51min

[heavy topaz]

wow

[weary root]

11m 15s

[heavy topaz]

HOW?

[weary root]

Glitches

[steady lynx]

But glitches are cheating, the youtube comments section told me so

[weary root]

True

I don't know what I have without cheating, I've probably done an any% nmg run that's faster than my all skills time

Thanks real batman

[hidden sundial]

51m, should work on it someday

My personal goal would be sub 45

[heady gull]

That right there is the sole reason i haven't done p5

[turbid patio]

cara im sorry but i didnt listen to your advice

[muted kelp]

i wanna do a bit of HK speedrunning but i dont feel like i have the stamina to remember routes, practice skips and execute a run for an ending%

[steady lynx]

You mean you might be interested in meme categories?

[muted kelp]

i used to do a1uba before baldur itemless ruined it

[steady lynx]

4ms is still relatively uncursed

But a lot of memes are optimal with itemless shade skip or itemless baldur sadly

[vagrant warren]

Or, just use RouteNotes so you don't have to remember anything, forget practicing & just YOLO a run

[steady lynx]

Practicing has always been optional, make a route mistake? That's timesave for another run

[analog pawn]

36:55

for any% NMG

19:06 is my fastest submitted time

I would never accidentally delete the 18:52 vod

any% NMMS

[idle cypress]

3:01:36, i got lost and accidentally got all the %

[night sierra]

rip

[steady lynx]

Is that the one where you died to Oblobbles?

[idle cypress]

Oh yeah

[sterile dune]

So, uh, this happened

[formal bough]

interesting. first instinct would be a mod messing it up (do you have benchwarp installed?), but posting the save isn't a bad idea

[sterile dune]

Yes, I have Benchwarp installed, but I hadn't selected anything. Is this something that's known to happen randomly?

[steady lynx]

No, this is not normal

[sturdy glade]

Benchwarp misinput?

[steady lynx]

Considering we've never seen something like this before and it's on modded here I'm willing to bet it wouldn't happen on vanilla

Normally if the save corrupts in some way it just warps you to KP start

[sturdy glade]

I imagine it would have been found by now if it was in vanilla

[steady lynx]

There's actually a very easy way to consistently make this happen, don't quit out twice in the same frame

[turbid patio]

omg go beat the game and get the wr go

ignore the modded save file that doesnt matter surely

[stable moon]

he stored the door

[timber kite]

???

[sturdy glade]

holy shit how did gusten not make that joke lmao

[steady lynx]

I need a new joke, it's been like 4 years of door storage

[frank fulcrum]

For speedrun achievement?

: o

I think any kind of any% route that gets shade soul is good one

[wooden grotto]

quick question about speedruning: can you use SOCD keyboards in real time runs?

[tough relic]

Yes

[weary root]

Join the speedrunning server (link in the pins), there's a ton of resources there including tutorials

[sterile dune]

Do I have to be on 1.2.2.1 to do the fury load (leaving KP, re-entering and grabbing Fury, then savequitting and reloading), or can I do it on current patch?

[still lodge]

it works on all patches

sometimes if you hold left after leaving kp you can miss the hardsave due to team cherry coding

[sturdy glade]

Yeah go right a little bit

[sterile dune]

Ah, thanks

[turbid patio]

Tc getting rid of the kp hardsave would be something

[open river]

Hi all, I made a friendly speedrun to defeat the False Knight the fastest, I wanted to test the new feature on a website, I'm looking for more participants, we do use the latest version of the game here's the link:

https://challonge.com/k781pou4

[turbid patio]

bye defeat false knighgt do you mean kill him fully i.e that he drop[s the crest

[open river]

Yee, don't need to pick it up but defeat him and transition to the next screen

[turbid patio]

k

ill submit later ig

i presume youll wanta recording

[open river]

Yee, there's an announcement thing on there and a run I did

[still lodge]

is this rta or load removed

[open river]

Uhhhh, game time is used so loading screens don't count towards time

I'm new to livesplit

[still lodge]

ok that would be load removed, awesome

ill do a run of it, why not

[open river]

Yippee

[gilded forge]

Do you guys have a map with the path I should take for my play through. I want to get the five hour achievement

[formal bough]

check the pins

[still lodge]

unironically a better crossroads than i get in actual runs gg

[turbid patio]

gg first place so far

[gilded forge]

Thx

[still lodge]

you were practicing vs yesterday right? beat my time

[turbid patio]

lmao surely

ive had a kp 2 tenths fastter than that so surely

[still lodge]

surely

unfortunately i got best rng on false knight and got the fast cycle both times

fate

[turbid patio]

oof

can you send your splits im too lazy to make them myslef if ima be completely honest

[analog pawn]

can I do a run of this tomorrow

[turbid patio]

its open registration you dont have to ask iirc

[analog pawn]

okyy

I have done like one run to vs on lp in my life

but I should be able to get a low 4x anyways I think

[turbid patio]

surely

goodluck

[turbid patio]

ogm thanks cara

[still lodge]

np

gl resetting gruz inv drop

[turbid patio]

thanks

ok first attempt is ten seconds behind

second attempt

i might do more tmrw idk i need to learn more than just vs split lmao

[open river]

Is left the screen transition after false knight?

[turbid patio]

no the final time is

"horse" as cara calls it

i wish i could beat fk in 2:38

left ist he room before fk

[sturdy glade]

no one beat fk in 2:38

[turbid patio]

somehow im losing time in it whne you literally just hold left i don tunderstand

[turbid patio]

glithces be like 👀

[sturdy glade]

well nmms can't do it and ag requires too much brainpower for me

[turbid patio]

fair enough, im surprised that nmms cant do it tho

[sturdy glade]

I wouldn't say that with confidence actually

it's hard to judge cause normal nmms does fk later iirc

[turbid patio]

none of thet early glithces really help that much for fk afaik so i could see it not being doable idk

[sturdy glade]

yeah

I mean straight timesave from like superslide but map oob probably won't really help

@steady lynx how fast could nmms beat fk

[turbid patio]

oh yeah superlside i forgor about that

[sturdy glade]

I mean kp superslide save maybe like 15 seconds or smth so it's really not massive

[open river]

Oki

[stiff wadi]

can i shade skip into blue lake itemless? i really think is impossible

[vagrant warren]

You can, it's very difficult

you can search "itemless blue lake shade skip" on youtube or ask in the speedrun server if you want an exampl

[stiff wadi]

i saw a video of someone doing it on 50fps, so i think shade behavior is related to fps? maybe

cuz i want to get SS with no VS vanilla, so either ill farm for lantern or do this i think

[vagrant warren]

there are a lot of trick in HK that are fps dependent, I wouldn't be surprised if this was one of them

[still lodge]

left is the room where you hold left the entire time (the one with the big guy and the breakable ceiling to gwomb)

[stiff wadi]

i hope not, in theory, i "just" need to dmg boost, pogo his attack and do 2 more pogos and it should work

thats waht the guy on the video did

[vagrant warren]

I think the knockback you get from the damage coost is probaly what's fps dependent

But a tutorial should cover it

It's fairly easy to toggle your fps if it's needed

[steady lynx]

Really fast, I'm not gonna do a superslide for a meme that's not on src though

[rose swift]

Hello I'm new here. I'm making an effort to beat hollow knight 100% on steel soul under 5 hours. Using this guide:
https://youtu.be/wQJabwbpKP0?si=Z8ijwcMqP24Y556B
Did the person in the video complete the run on PC or switch? I play on switch, so I wonder if loading times are different between the two versions; am I playing on an inherently slower version?

[stiff wadi]

ok, ive had enough tries on 180fps where i go so close to doign it

switching to 50 fps

[stiff wadi]

ive ben trying for at least one hour

why do i suck so much 😭

[sturdy glade]

it's cause itemless shade sucks major ass

[stiff wadi]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/945391432615755837/1331367069630988402/twitter_1881803986770288666.gif

[normal aspen]

Itemless blue lake can be annoying, but it's relatively consistent as long as you are able to do the same thing each time and get a feel for how each input should be timed

Try and figure out where you are losing height/failing, which is made easier if you can record attempts

[normal aspen]

was on pc. will be some load time differences but its a relatively small difference and 5h should still be pretty doable

[rose swift]

I just need to git gud

I have a goal of getting all achievements and I noticed in the run they get carefree melody. I already did that on another save file, so I'm trying to see how I can fit all Grimmkin nightmares into the route.

I already get one from Brumm, I think I should grab the flame next to the broken elevator and ancient basin. Am now wondering if it would be faster to grab the fire in fungle wastes or hive

If during the route I grab tram pass after killing galien (like in the video) and take tram after killing Grimmkin next to the broken elevator I go through hive for the 3rd flame?

Then dream gate back to city of tears

Being that the run is steel soul I don't know if it's worth going to fungle wastes to kill the Grimmkin nightmare and not die to him or the two shrumal ogres or the sporg in the same room

[knotty vigil]

hi

im kind of new to speedrunning and i was hoping for someone to help me with downpatching

any tips , methods?

[open river]

For steam, I know you can get the 1.2.2.1 version by going into Properties > Beta and changing it there

[cunning parcel]

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLH-aXtMsmPYq8ZvwV9G7s3uIz_6AlIygz&si=aHtbbqvBjX7xd4wB
heres a guide on how to downpatch!

[analog pawn]

first attempt, aspid arena gave me a delay so I only hit one and then I lost 3 seconds to cara in FK from messing it up

[hidden dune]

New run idea, menderbug 112%, break every sign in the game and then kill menderbug.

[tardy lion]

Damn that’s evil

Does it also include the 112% or is that just the name

[stiff wadi]

true, ill try more today for sure, i feel like i am sosos close, i dont think it is rng based but surely very very precise

[burnt current]

#hk-meme

[stiff wadi]

wait, if i get a health upgrade, the shade can tank 3 hits, doing "itemless" shade skip easier

[sturdy glade]

I mean why are you doing the skip in the first place?

[hidden dune]

It could but I was just thinking of the name

[limber lily]

Sped

[turbid patio]

Then its not itemless

[grim iron]

BRO-

DIDN'T I WARNED YOU TO STOP SENDING THAT TYPE OF GIFS?

[stiff wadi]

exactly what i was thinkning

[stiff wadi]

i want to get SS without VS, or i farm lantern and get CH or i do this stupid itemless blue lake shade skip lol

i feel like i am so close to doing the skip tho soso close

or not idk

[turbid patio]

you could always do ibaldur

surely thats easier

[still lodge]

what is this propaganda

[sturdy glade]

Downpatch to 1028 and map oob to claw

[stiff wadi]

ibaldur? whats that? :o

[steady lynx]

Itemless Baldur, a plague upon the community

[stiff wadi]

idk what would cost me more time to do, dream shield baldur, long nail/fury baldur or ibaldur

[steady lynx]

Depends on existing game knowledge and skills

[stiff wadi]

hmmm im really thinkning if i should continue trying to itemless blue lake shade skip, it feels like im doing everything right but simply not getting the height enough... feels rather frustating and not really fun... hmmmm

maybe just farming for lantern would be the better solution

boring yeah but i rather take smth boring than smth not fun

[still lodge]

decided to do another run, can't believe i got another pb!

[dense maple]

I just learned the route and beat the game in ~3 hours. It's a start 🙂 (watchers kinda hard on cp with nothing)

[steady lynx]

Yeah, WK tends to be like a brick wall to do with less equipment for new players

[turbid patio]

gluck 12 hours of practice a dayon wk alone iirc

^ for having fun in the game reasons the above is a joke

[young moon]

cp???????? that has to have another meaning to it

[dense maple]

current patch

[young moon]

OH

thank god

[dense maple]

what did you think?

[young moon]

cyberpunk..👍

[steady lynx]

The reason we tend to call it LP (Latest Patch) now instead

[young moon]

that's how i know it lmao

[dense maple]

Not very active but I wuill call it LP

ty for knowlege

The crystal dash skips are so freaking satisfying to do

same with fireball skips

[turbid patio]

cp = crystal peak surley

[sturdy glade]

my favorite fake location is cpeaks

[turbid patio]

wth is peaks

ew

[steady lynx]

It's when you're room duping in cpeak, so there's multiple rooms

[turbid patio]

ah ic

[sturdy glade]

nmms or smth

[normal aspen]

Can you send a clip? Will make it a lot easier to see what's going wrong

Or at least compare what you are doing to a clip of it being done

[shell spindle]

What does itemleas blake sskip do again? Dmg tank, parry, dmg tank then pogo pogo?

It is hard to do

[stiff wadi]

sure, i can try more today and send an attempt

thx for the help btw ^~^

[normal aspen]

dtank parry pogo pogo
https://youtu.be/M3LrEeYdJf8?si=6y3tCp8k718MlsM7

[steady lynx]

May with the cursed skips

[normal aspen]

its not thaaattt bad

[steady lynx]

Now show us fireball claw spike tunnel

[normal aspen]

Now this is cursed lmao
https://youtu.be/I8m461hIP4Y

[formal bough]

how about downpatched itemless thorns of agony

[normal aspen]

imo its easier than this

[steady lynx]

What's the most cursed skip you've done

[normal aspen]

for no gambling prob thos

this*

[formal bough]

well looking at how bad that last turnaround was it clearly couldn't have been that hard /j

(more seriously wow I don't think any of those pogos or fireballs could have been a frame later)

[steady lynx]

I just now realised may's name is blue again, when did that happen

[normal aspen]

uhh whenever the role was made

few months?

[formal bough]

wait alumni is former mods

huh

what a role

[normal aspen]

its great

i get to be speedrunner blue, can delete messages, and no slow mode with 0 responsibilities

[formal bough]

blue is supposed to mean speedrunner :(

[steady lynx]

I miss when speedrunners were blue for a day

When is April 1st

[normal aspen]

hmm

its a mystery

[steady lynx]

No way to know sadly

[surreal pine]

Hi not sure if this is the right place for it, but I've been conssitently getting the same weird glich with my curent Myla % saftey route

When i do shade skip, my soul indicator doen't change from being broken, even though i;ve defeated the shade, I can stil lget full soul but the indicator shows trhe broken glass graphic. I'm wondering if this glith will look sus and effect my runs being approved?

[weary root]

Hmm I've only seen this happen on modded games using savestates, so if it's happening while you're practicing but not on the vanilla game it shouldn't be an issue.

What patch are you on?

[shell spindle]

Dayum now hop on crossroads to fog itemless acid skip

[normal aspen]

Honestly worst part of that is the game randomly deciding what frame to end your I frames on and the long ass setup

Ive gotten close and then messed up the timing on the last shade pogo and it was enough for me to stop trying lol

[shell spindle]

:0

Rip

[surreal pine]

I use lumfly to boot modded when practicing and vanilla when running, so it should be on vanilla when this is happening. I leave my shade where it needs and spawn back in to the stag station, go up to Dirtmouth to get the relic in the well then quit and re-load and head down to do shade skip, and almost every time (during a run) when i do shade skip my soul gauge stays broken. It's only when i do it in that order. It happened on my most recent PB recordign which is why i'm wondering if this will look bad for the submission. Im on 1.5.78

[surreal pine]

sorry for ping, i forgot to turn the wotzit off

[gleaming vine]

Hey, i'm trying to speedrun hollow knight on mouse and keyboard 1.2.2.1, but i gotta reset my keybinds each run i start, also i can't use mousebutton 4 and 5, is there any solution or anything i can do?

[sturdy glade]

1221 has a lot of problems with mouse controls. I believe turquoise.exe can be used to fix that, which you could find by asking around in the pinned server

[weary root]

Use the command ;mouse in the speedrunning server

[stiff wadi]

wha? hows that possible?

[weary root]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZX8WRRSzXY8

[stiff wadi]

wtf, that looks soooo precise

the amount of moving parts is insane

[turbid patio]

new pb

[hidden sundial]

Very consistent

[buoyant wigeon]

hey guys does the fluke nest lingering hitbox still work?

[tardy lion]

In recent patch?

[buoyant wigeon]

i mean current

[vagrant warren]

I'm not sure what you mean by still? It's only broken like that on LP

[remote light]

can someone help me fix baulders on patch 1.2.2.1

they are rolling for a split second making some strats impossible, also the spit baulders are stuck only throwing the fire

I think it might be fps related since it only started happening after I've upgraded my CPU from Ryzen 5 2600 to Ryzen 7 5800X

[vagrant warren]

yeah, you'll need to cap your fps so they roll a normal amount - I think around 250 is recommended

[remote light]

okay thank you

[shell spindle]

Wait rly ? I had misconception that it was broken earlier and was worse with other glitches like multi kill

[vagrant warren]

it was broken earlier, but it's broken in different ways on almost every patch

[heavy topaz]

is dash after 11 minutes fast? (pls reply ping) edit updated, 10 m. ok now 9 minutes

or slow?

[sacred thunder]

That depends on the referential, and also whether or not you killed false knight
You can get it in around 7 (iirc) minutes if you are really fast but 11 ain’t bad

[shell spindle]

oooh I c

[shell spindle]

Smh great reply ping

[shell spindle]

U got answered but to add on: it’s all about comparison and what you decide

Or like a summary kinda

[earnest swift]

this is my first time speedrunning and ive just gotten dream nail

where should i go next?

[static umbra]

depends, r u doing any% nmg route or u just doing the 5 hr speedrun achievement

[turbid patio]

If you are speedrunning and you don't know where yo go next your speedrunning wrong iirc IMHO don't meant to be rude or anything but like probably learn the route before hand

[hidden sundial]

Assuming Any%, Watcher Knights into Lurien. Using an autosplitter can help to keep track of that

[shell spindle]

Wtf there’s a route impossible

[heavy topaz]

Ok

[earnest swift]

the achievement

[earnest swift]

too many abbreviations😔

[turbid patio]

lmao

[static umbra]

in pinned msgs it says that questions on 5 hr achievement is better directed in #hk-help

[sturdy glade]

Lowk had a stroke reading this

[heavy topaz]

guys what app do i use for the timer that you can see in game?

[turbid patio]

livesplit?

[formal bough]

(livesplit isn't an ingame timer, people just have the livesplit on top of the game)

[heavy topaz]

oh

[wooden glacier]

Hello I have Livesplit installed and I was wondering how to get the mod for it pausing during loading?

[formal bough]

Right click -> Compare Against -> make sure Game Time is checked instead of Real Time

[wooden glacier]

Thx

[vagrant warren]

Also you need to have the autosplitter enabled with autosplits, for the load remover to work

[heavy topaz]

Is there any easier skip than using crystal heart in the acid skip to get to monomon?

[sturdy glade]

Just practice it a bit and it's not that bad

[turbid patio]

if you are still struggling its kinda free if you simply walk off the platform to the right to the wall you would c dash of off, you can simply walk of that platform and press c dash as soon as you touch the wall, putting you at a good height to do the skip

[heavy topaz]

Ty

[stiff wadi]

wait, i just saw this was a TAS lmao, i thought someone had done that

im so dumb

[normal aspen]

Rose has also done it in a run

[heavy topaz]

Im so happy i broke my record :D

[turbid patio]

What happened with your splits

Impressive to enter qg one second after killing uumuu

[heavy topaz]

I didnt i forgot to remove it

So me skipped it

Shit i forgor no reply ping

[turbid patio]

no i love reply ping

ill miss it if you dont reply ping

[heavy topaz]

Oh lol

[heavy topaz]

Same here

[wooden kindle]

Got sup 1 hour on first try and tips I on xbox

Any tips

[vagrant warren]

Do it again, faster.

(You haven't given any details on what you struggled with to actually give an informed suggestion)

[turbid patio]

learn the route if youhavent already, practice the hell out of bosses and skips

[heavy topaz]

What route you use?

[heavy topaz]

Colette is right and we could give tips on the route

[pale parrot]

Not sure which channel would be best for this question but

Are there any resources (videos, Google docs, etc) on tips, routes, strats for hard parts, etc for hitless hollow knight any% runs?

[heavy topaz]

?

[pale parrot]

Not talking about beating it as fast as possible in a speedrun fashion, but more consistent (taking into account that faster runs means less room for error ofc)

[pale parrot]

Not really sure what the appropriate channel for hitless discussion is

[weary root]

there's a hollow knight page on team hitless' website

[heavy topaz]

oh

[pale parrot]

Ah thx

Only saw the videos

There

[weary root]

there might only be videos

[pale parrot]

There are guides

I was just very blind

Thanks again :D

Once I recover from my steroid shot for my wrists cysts I can start practicing

[heady moss]

When I fire ball skip, do I use the quick cast?

[weary root]

Yes

It won't work if you use focus to cast

[shell spindle]

It won’t?

U can still do it if u mash quick enough

[analog pawn]

yeah it's possible but a lot harder

also you shouldn't mash either way

[shell spindle]

Yea

[stable quarry]

Have you done it? Focus fb skip sound cursed.

[analog pawn]

ik people who have but I haven't

[sturdy glade]

Do you have to press focus before you turn around or is it just really tight

[analog pawn]

it's just very tight

[turbid patio]

i have done it, it sucks, it was befroe i knew of quick cast, its infinitely easier to just use quick cast, and literally no reason not to

[analog pawn]

yeah

[alpine sundial]

how do u do hk speedrunnig like the timer and everything

[vagrant warren]

The timer is livesplit. Not sure what else you're grouping under "everything"

[fringe crypt]

why is people here running fast

[weary root]

[turbid patio]

are*

[fringe crypt]

sutup

[devout lion]

Is 4 hours good for a first run

with no plan

no steelsoul

on accident

[turbid patio]

yes

[devout lion]

idk how i manged

[topaz grove]

An extremely stupid and ignorant idea.

[topaz grove]

112% + 21% (lost artifacts) + 5% (pale court charms) + 8% (pale court bosses + champion’s call)

Total of 146%

[steady lynx]

There's a mod called Transcendence which adds a ton more charms, consider that

[dusty dagger]

Are there actual speedruns of decomaster maps

[steady lynx]

Probably, but I think the people who do them just keep track of their times in spreadsheets

[normal aspen]

i ran puzzle knight te for a while

[mild root]

I'm thinking of doing some kind of casual speedrunning, which patch/category has the least amount of glitches? Like inventory drops, lever skips, WCS, etc.

[static umbra]

i mean u can still do the same speedrun routes but not include any of those glitches. as a casual speedrunner myself i found any% nmg current patch to be quite enjoyable. it does have some skips involved but a lot of the harder speedrunning tricks can be taken out

like even tho i dont do epogo or qga or fireball skips theres not too much alteration to the standard any% route

[mild root]

I saw someone doing a really simple epogo just standing still and jumping

is that like a really old patch

[static umbra]

thats probably an older patch thing since the tutorials i found of current patch epogos are a lot more complicated than that

[mild root]

Yeah exactly

[static umbra]

like it involves fireballing at specific times and stuff and like i cant even do fireball skips so i aint gonna do that