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lucid nymph
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Oh yes

placid rover
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$$ab = ba$$
$\implies$ (right multiplication)
$$(ab)(a^{-1}b^{-1}) = (ba)(a^{-1}b^{-1})$$
$\implies$ (associativity)
$$(ab)(a^{-1}b^{-1}) = b(a(a^{-1}b^{-1}))$$
$\implies$ (associativity)
$$(ab)(a^{-1}b^{-1}) = b((aa^{-1})b^{-1})$$
$\implies$ (inverse)
$$(ab)(a^{-1}b^{-1}) = b(eb^{-1})$$
$\implies$ (identity)
$$(ab)(a^{-1}b^{-1}) = bb^{-1}$$
$\implies$ (inverse)
$$aba^{-1}b^{-1} = e$$

woven radishBOT
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Shuri2060

placid rover
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And I can use iff sign on all lines. Then I don't need forwards and backwards.

lucid nymph
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This makes much more sense. I wasn't sure if I could start it off with both a^-1b^-1, I thought we'd have to show each one by one somehow

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I got the other direction

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Thank you very much for the help

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drifting spade
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how to calculate 5 - x2 = 10? i know the answer is -2.5 but i when i use the way i have learned, i got the wrong answer.

placid rover
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also what is x2

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$x^2$

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???

woven radishBOT
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Shuri2060

drifting spade
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x2 is x * 2

placid rover
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ok people write that 2x

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But sure, show

drifting spade
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oh sorry

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wait for a minute

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i learned from math antics's video

main gull
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What was the process you did?

drifting spade
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oh good question

placid rover
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is it possible for u to write here

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your steps

main gull
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I'm not watching a video

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Type out the process you did

drifting spade
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5 - x2 = 10
+5 +5
x2 = 15
15 / 2 = 7.5
x = 7.5
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like this i think

placid rover
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This process doesn't make sense to me

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What is this +5 +5

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Already, on the 3rd line we have problems

restive river
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not add

drifting spade
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undoing the 5 -

placid rover
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🚫

restive river
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bc if you subtract 5 on the right the 5 is gone

placid rover
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$$5 - 2x = 5 + (-2)x$$

woven radishBOT
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Shuri2060

placid rover
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You need to realise what these things actually mean

drifting spade
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oh

placid rover
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'5-'

drifting spade
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thanks

placid rover
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makes no sense on its own

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the minus is acting on the 2nd term

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hard pike
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so i worked out the equation of ad
y = 5/2x + 2

and equation of ab
y = 2/5 x + 2

how would i now work out the area of the rectangle do i cut it into 2 triangles ?

supple knot
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You can use that to find the side lengths of the rectangle and then multiply the side lengths to get area

hard pike
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how will i work out b and the rest of d?

supple knot
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B has coordinates where y=0. Can you find x?

hard pike
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oh yes i forgot b is on the x axis

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so it will be ( x , 0 )

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just like d ( x , 0 )

supple knot
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Coordinates are usually written (x, y)

hard pike
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so i've gotten 2 equations for lines ad , ab

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how will i use those lines to find x co ordinate

supple knot
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How did you find A?

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B lies on the line connecting A to B

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So you use that equation to find coordinates for B

hard pike
hard pike
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im sorry if im braindead @supple knot

supple knot
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Same for D

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You got this

hard pike
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alright so will i have to put 2 into the equation y = 5/2x + 2

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so it will be

2 = 5/2x + 2 or

supple knot
supple knot
hard pike
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/

so the co ordinates for d

( -1.25 , 0 )

b

( 5 , 0)

supple knot
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Can you find the side lengths of the rectangle

hard pike
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yes so i go from d to b

supple knot
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AD and AB

hard pike
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and work out the length from there using x axis

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ad length is 2
ab length is 3.75

supple knot
supple knot
hard pike
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d was 1.25

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b was 5

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to work out the length

supple knot
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Side length of a rectangle is the distance from point A to point B and A to D. You circled the diagonal of the rectangle

hard pike
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ohh ok

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so the side lenght will be 5 - 2

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= 3

supple knot
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How did you get 2?

hard pike
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2 is the length from d to a

supple knot
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Nah. You need to use Pythagorean theorem

supple knot
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Still not quite right. The length of AD is the hypotenuse of a right triangle. What are the side lengths of that right triangle?

hard pike
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j

supple knot
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That picture doesn't show AD as a hypotenuse

hard pike
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hypontenuse is the longest side tho right?

supple knot
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Okay let's go back to the beginning. What is the length of OA and what is the length of OD

hard pike
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od = 1.25

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ob = 5

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so db = 6.25?

supple knot
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OA

hard pike
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2

supple knot
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Now draw the triangle OAD

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AD is one of the side lengths of the rectangle

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It is also the hypotenuse of triangle OAD

hard pike
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ohhh i see where your from from now

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ok so to work out the hyp

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i do this

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so ad = 2.4

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and u do 2.4 x 5 = 12?

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which is the final answer

hard pike
supple knot
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Did you get length AB?

supple knot
hard pike
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yea ab lenght is 5

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wait

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no

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let me wokr it ouit

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i got 5.5

supple knot
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Are you rounding?

hard pike
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yea

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it was 5.54

supple knot
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I would double check all your work and don't round until the very last answer

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Check length OA, check coordinates for B and D, check lengths OB and OD

hard pike
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alright

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analog raft
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Can someone please explain how I can do this

main gull
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Do you know what a rational number is?

analog raft
main gull
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But I'm asking if you know

analog raft
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Yeah I do

main gull
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Not by pasting a graphic

analog raft
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Yes

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I do

copper mango
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so then what's the problem?

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just find the rational numbers in that list which are the same number

analog raft
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So B D and E

copper mango
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sure, though I asked for the numbers

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not decimal approximations

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-4/3 is not 1.3333

analog raft
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O

analog raft
copper mango
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yes.

analog raft
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kk thx

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rugged kraken
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Hey guys, i have a function like this: f(x) = max { cos(x/2), 0 }

rugged kraken
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Can i also write it as this

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f(x) = { cos(x/2) when x is between (3pi/4 and pi/4) and otherwise its 0 }

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Also, this should be an even function, right? Since f(-x) = f(x).

placid rover
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Take x = 4pi ?

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anyways, no.

austere dust
austere dust
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So they are different?

rugged kraken
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I think i understand your point Shuri.

placid rover
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yeah I cant get the right x, but yes.

rugged kraken
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is it something like i should add + 2kpi?

placid rover
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I would suggest graphing cos(x/2)

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and checking what the original function does

placid rover
rugged kraken
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Really? My logic was that i first looked where cosx > 0. If i m not wrong that is (3pi/2, pi/2). Then since i need cos(x/2) i just divided that by 2

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But it seems i was wrong about that.

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Especially since i don't know the domain?

placid rover
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domain is

rugged kraken
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Indeed.

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Can you then help me correct my wrong function?

rugged kraken
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placid rover
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Draw the graph of cos(x/2)

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fiery kindle
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can anyone help?

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fiery kindle
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law of indices

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I have found the points of A,B,C,D and E. The midpoint L is given and I found the slope of CE to be -3. How do you find the equations of the perpendiculars LO and MO? I haven't done geometry in years and just need a little guidance for this problem. And how do I use the perpendiculars to find the point of intersection which I am guessing is O?

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restive river
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Hmm

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Do u know formula for midpoint

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Of two points

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Use that to find the coordinates of E

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@rapid nest

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restive river
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Ok

rapid nest
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please re read my query

restive river
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Ik

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I read

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U found slope of CE

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Did u find E using that ?

rapid nest
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no.. i just, looked at it?

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do i really need to show how i got it?

restive river
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Wut

rapid nest
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i just looked at the diagram. see i'm very bad at this. if you could just tell me what i need to do, then i'll try making sense of it myself. instead of guessing answers to your small questions. i really need to understand this. my professor asks me a million questions instead of explaining exactly what i need to do

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please dont do the same to me. i kinda just need it laid out to me to understand. not completely but atleast some of it

restive river
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Fine fine

rapid nest
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i'm willing to understand and not just jot it down

restive river
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I'll do it

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Brb

rapid nest
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thank you, it really means a lot to me

slender mirage
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umm

restive river
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@slender mirage are u gonn explain

slender mirage
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nope I'm just lurking :o

restive river
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Ok

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Ok I'm here

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So let's see what we gotta do

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@rapid nest

rapid nest
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i'm here!

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@restive river

restive river
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Alright first we need to show ABDE is a rectangle

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For that we need coordinates of E

rapid nest
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uh hm

restive river
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We find that using the midpoint formula

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Wait

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It says find coordinates of midpoint L

rapid nest
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which two coordinates do we use to find E

restive river
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But they are already given

rapid nest
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that is exactly what confused me

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lmao

restive river
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Confusion 100

slender mirage
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Honestly

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"Find the coordinates of the midpoint L" is probably bugged in the question lol

restive river
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Yeh

rapid nest
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my college is really good at making us suffer with wrong questions so not surprised

slender mirage
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There's also, "draw lines OA, OE, OE, OC"

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Anyways

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I read your problem

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The idea here is to use the fact that OM(!?) is perpendicular to AB and OL is perpendicular to CE

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also notice that BM is perpendicular to BD

rapid nest
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so how do i use this information to find the perpendicular of the lines

slender mirage
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hmm

rapid nest
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um

slender mirage
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I might've over did it lol, is why I deleted those

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you said you need to find equations for LO and MO right?

rapid nest
slender mirage
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what's the slope for CL?

rapid nest
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let me do it one sec

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-13?

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i think

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not so sure

slender mirage
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-1/13

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It's ∆y/∆x right?

rapid nest
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oh im stupid

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sorry yes i did dumb

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then?

slender mirage
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so what's the slope for LO?

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knowing LO is perpendicular to LC?

rapid nest
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wait how do you find the slope for LO

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using um that

slender mirage
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Umm,

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so there's this one little exercise you do while playing with straight lines

rapid nest
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please dont make it hard on me with guessing questions

slender mirage
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where you find the product of slopes of two perpendicular lines

rapid nest
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just tell me

slender mirage
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and they always end up being -1

rapid nest
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hm

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i think i saw that somewhere

slender mirage
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so since product of slopes of mutually perpendicular lines = -1, product of slopes of LO and LC should be -1

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hence slope of LO = -1/ ( -1/13) = 13

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and you have the point L, so use the point-slope format to write the equation of the line

rapid nest
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Point slope format? Y-y1 = m(x-x1)?

slender mirage
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Yes

rapid nest
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okay, one sec

slender mirage
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similarly for MO

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as MO is perpendicular to MB, and as for finding the point of intersection, you have equations for both MO and LO now so solve it to get O

rapid nest
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is the slope for MB, 0?

slender mirage
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yeah so MO would just be x = 10 lol

rapid nest
slender mirage
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yeah, it's intuitive that the if MB has equation y = constant then it's perpendicular would just be x = constant

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x = 10 in this case passing through point M

rapid nest
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is Y=13x+160 the equation for LO?

just to check

slender mirage
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so, you solve the simultaneous equations :
x = 10 and (y-9) = 13(x-13)

slender mirage
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solve it with x = 10 and you get your y coordinate for O as well

rapid nest
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-30? for y

slender mirage
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yeah

rapid nest
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alrighty

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how do you verify that ABDE is a rectangle

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and find point E

slender mirage
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lol

rapid nest
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in a geometric way

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lmao

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of course

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you've been helping really well, just a little more. i really appreciate the help i'm getting and i thank you a lot

slender mirage
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honestly we're not really given much about ED

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so you can only use the "midpoint" part of the question to find the coordinate of E

rapid nest
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and um, how do you do that 😅

slender mirage
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Umm, L is the midpoint between EC so

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(26 + X)/2 = 13 ; (8 + Y)/2 = 9 - Midpoint theorem

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(X, Y) = (0, 10)

rapid nest
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i get it now

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@slender mirage i thank you a lot. i understand this question now and I'll try solving it on my own now once. i really really appreciate the time you gave me and you were a really good helper.

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again thank you a lot for your time

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@restive river thank you too, you helped me too.

thanks a lot for the time you guys spent on helping me

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errant sage
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anyone know how to find all real and imaginairy solutions to questions like
x^6 = 1
obviously u can employ difference of cubes and squares but is there any strategy that works for all powers

winter patrol
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look up roots of unity

errant sage
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k

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also on a complex number line the cube root of 1 omega rotates points 120 degrees right

torpid ocean
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yeah

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all you do in that question is 360/6 and make it evenly spaced from the argand diagram drawned from the origin to 1

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or is it finding the imaginay, you just have cis(2pi*n/6) for +- 1,2,3

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and evaluate it down

restive river
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We can look at the norms of both sides of (re^(it))^n = r^n e^(i(nt)) = x^n = 1 to find that r^n = 1, so r = 1 since we said it couldn't be negative

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So it comes down to finding all t such that e^(i(nt)) = 1

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Now e^(it) is a periodic function in t with period 2pi

errant sage
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Pretty much tho nth root of 1 will cause a 360/n degree rotation on a complex plain

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is that right

restive river
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Well that's what the next step is: since 1 = e^(i * 2pi) = e^(i * (nt + 2pi k)) where k is some integer, we can just convert this to 2pi = nt + 2pi k

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And solving results in t = 2pi k' / n, where k' is still just some integer

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Any value of k' that "leaves" the range 0<= k' < n can be put back there, since we can pull out multiples of 2pi

restive river
errant sage
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o

restive river
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Also I leave it as an exercise to you to figure out exactly which nth roots are conjugates of each other :^)

errant sage
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well obv omega has conjugates that are x^6

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what grade r u in btw

restive river
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I have a degree lol

errant sage
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lolz

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im in 8th

restive river
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Fun!

restive river
errant sage
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Well obv since +-(omega)^3 = 1.

Omega^3)^2) = will also = 1

and since u can now rerrange the real imaginary parts +- signs in any way and still be left with x^6

also it makes sense because if omega rotates a complex point 120 degrees it stands to reason that root omega and its conjugate will rotate 60 deg

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right?

restive river
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omega you are taking here as e^(i 2pi/n), yes?

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in this case where n=6

errant sage
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there is supposed to be neg sign before 1/2

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my bad

restive river
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yes that's the same

errant sage
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oh

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ok

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But is my reasoning sound for why omegas conjugates will equal 1 when raised to the 6th

restive river
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A complex number has only one unique conjugate

errant sage
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the same real part opposite magnitude of imaginairy

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yeah but omega and its conjugate cubed = 1

restive river
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the conjugate of that number cubed is -1 actually

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so I'm still not sure what you are getting at
I think you are having a good time with these concepts and that's great!!

errant sage
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no this cubed is 1

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right

meager sapphire
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mb just using this to find my thingey

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errant sage
restive river
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$(e^{2\pi i (1/6)})^* = (\frac{1}{2} + i \frac{\sqrt{3}}{2})^* = \frac{1}{2} - i \frac{\sqrt{3}}{2} = e^{2\pi i(-1/6)}$

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uh lmao what happened here

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there

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keen shoal
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the answer is 1 right

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deft hemlock
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,w ((2x^2-3x-2)/(x^2+3x)) / ((2x^2+x)/(x^2+2x-3)) / ((x^2-3x+2)/(x^2))

keen shoal
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is it correct?

woven radishBOT
placid rover
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lmao

deft hemlock
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honestly

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i have no idea

keen shoal
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im confused

placid rover
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sure your brackets are ok there?

keen shoal
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bro what happened to your input

deft hemlock
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i just copied what he had written down

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it has a triple diviosn

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sextuple** actually

keen shoal
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brackets no?

deft hemlock
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brackets?

placid rover
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you made a typo

keen shoal
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ill try

placid rover
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maybe

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maybe not

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idk lmao

keen shoal
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have no idea what is

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this bot

deft hemlock
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good luck

keen shoal
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,w ((2x^2-3x-2)/(x^2+3x)) / ((2x^2+x)/(x^2+2x-3)) / ((x^2-3x+2)/(x^2))

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wait

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keen shoal
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you did do it correctly didnt?

deft hemlock
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that's what i thought

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but idk

keen shoal
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oh right

deft hemlock
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not sure how this would even be 1

keen shoal
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breuh

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idk

deft hemlock
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cuz the factors don't all cancel out

keen shoal
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ill do it again

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lol

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wait it does cancel out

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i have no idea what most of this stuff even means

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oh you did the input wrong

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oh wait nvm

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it worked out on paper

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please help

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ok so

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i just flipped the 2

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it still works like this right

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@deft hemlock

deft hemlock
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yeah looks good to me

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If m parallel lines are intersected with n parallel lines in a plane. Find the number of ||gm formed.

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Is it right $^mC_2 \times ^nC_2$?

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okay do you know y = mx+b

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70 + days*45

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okay so what is the initial cost when u rent a car

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70

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good thats your b

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do I just substitute then?

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like is y = mx + b the correct equation

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45 x 5 + 70

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mmmh why times 5

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5 days

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oh sorry forgot to mention that

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alr thanks

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Ello! I have a few questions on statistically low powered studies.
From digging around online, I understand that 2 consequences of underpowered studies is that

- There is a higher rate of false positives. Mathematically, why does it do this? Why would a small sample size lead to more false positives?

- It can only pick up on the greatest effects and not smaller ones. How does this work? Isn't this consequence contradictory to the first one? I mean, if there are more false positives slipping in, what's preventing the samples with smaller effect sizes (dunno, p=0.049) from slipping in as well?

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first of all, no it isn't, second, don't just give answers

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wasn't rude...

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How

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24

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It’s impossible to draw a rectangle with 12 square units and a perimeter of 26 units

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Ok

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lets imagine the 2 sides are x and y

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K

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so we know that x multiplied by y is 12?

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can we write it as 2(x+y) = 26?

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okay so we know that some 2 numbers multiplied equals to 12

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so you have to find out numbers that multiply to make 12 but when added are 13

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1 + (12) = 13

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smart

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Ty

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I’m dumb lol I’m 14 I’m in a special Ed class

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Ty

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you can count the side and verify your answer too

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Anyone from financial mathematics background can help me to verify the value of R here is equal to 7xx something?
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Which trig ratio can you used

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tan

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600 x 60tan

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No

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so we know that tan of the angle is 60/600 now since tan is opposite over adjacent

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Is there a generalized way to solve this? \
$\min{f(n)|n\in\bN\land n\geq a}$, \$f:\bN\to\bN$

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Pedrosso

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or to generalize the question further $\min{f(x)|x\in D}$ for any $f:D$

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Pedrosso

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(2+2)^2=

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hi

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how do i differentiate this

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What's the definition of function f? I'm sure the question is incomplete. Can you share complete question?

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it only says this

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If 1, 2,-3 are eigen values of A then trace of A² is
None
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36
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could this be a chain rule practice?

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kinda

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idk how to derive f(g(x))

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using chain rule

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Ohh.
According to chain rule, you have to differentiate the outer function first and then multiply by the derivative of inside function. This chain continues for numerous functions.

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f(x)?

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derivative of f(x) is f'(x).

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@strong pivot

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e^2x

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Yes

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no

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whats the outer function?

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f

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so its f'(x) * 2e^2x

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Wait a min

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It should be f'(e^2x) 2e^2x

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isnt the outer function f(x)

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Derivative of g(f(x)) is g'(f(x)) f'(x)

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You have to keep inner function as it is.

strong pivot
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wait whats the outer function

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Outer function is f

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But you have to keep inner function as it is while applying chain rule.

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how is it f

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Umm let's take another example.
What's the outer function in sin(cos(x))?

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@strong pivot

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sin

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Yeah.
Can you figure out its derivative using chain rule?

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sin'(cos(x)) * -sin x

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Yeah

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It's not f(x), it's f(e^2x)

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Hi, how would you calculate an average between two dynamic numbers? In example, i have a statistic that calculates a gain per time unit, eg income per minute, but it updates every 5 seconds and the income varies heavily from second to second so i need to get an average between a longer time span, atm the way it works is that it just extrapolates on the data it had for the past 5 seconds, i could make it just collect the data each 60 seconds instead but that makes it hard to see the fluctuations

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Hope that made sense to someone

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Not to me lol

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 if (CurrentDeltaTime >= 5.00)
            {
                var expFromOld = CharCurrentExp - ExperienceOld;
if (expFromOld != 0 && ExperienceOld <= CharCurrentExp)
                {
                    CurrentExpGainMin = expFromOld * 12;
                    CurrentExpGainHr = CurrentExpGainMin * 60;

                    ExperienceOld = CharCurrentExp;

                    ToNextLevelMin = (PlayerExpNext - PlayerExpCurrent) / CurrentExpGainMin;
                    ToNextLevelHr = (PlayerExpNext - PlayerExpCurrent) / CurrentExpGainHr;
                }
CurrentDeltaTime = 0;

a snippet of my function in case it helps

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basically, this works fine but because the gain updates too often and varies too heavily, i need an average of a longer period, based on the values i got

keen owl
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So cant you just save 12 values over 60 seconds

Find the average of the 12?

restive river
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i suppose i can do that, but i was wondering if there was another way to get an aprox without collecting the data for a longer period, but idk if that makes sense

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no it doesn't nvm

keen owl
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It does

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But it really depends on what your doing right

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Like if your tracking the position of something

Then between those 5 second intervals , you have a general idea of where it is

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If that makes sense

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I have no clue what your doing so idk

restive river
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i'm calculating the exp gain per minute / hour

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but i need a way display the data with an average that's more stable over time then only seeing what i'm getting for the past 5 seconds, cause while it's accurate it can give me like, i'm going to level up in 86 hours, while 10 seconds later it's 122 hours

keen owl
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Ohhhh

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Its showing the player an estimate of when they will level up

restive river
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yes correct~

keen owl
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If the xp gain isn't extremely sparatic maybe you can find the gain in the gain and use that? Idk if that will help.

Like the second derivative if you know what I mean

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Idk if thats a good idea

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Otherwise I would just go with finding the average of like the last 10 values or something and then every time you get a new value, you trash the oldest one. If doing it for 10 is still all over the place you can do it for more

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Now I'm sorta interested in what your making lol

restive river
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but i think collecting data over a longer period is the only way i currently understand, i'm terrible at math tbh 😂

keen owl
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So currently your calculating the gain in xp by doing (currentxp)-(oldxp)

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Something like that

restive river
keen owl
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You can calculate gain in gain in xp

Current gain - old gain

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And do estimates with that

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Idk homie I'm in bed just find the average lol

restive river
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oh, i get what you mean

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but i think the base numbers might be too erratic

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so i suppose ill just end up collecting the data over a longer period instead

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thanks for your help

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on b) why is dy/dt -7/12?

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((-7)/24)x2 or -7/12

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So you are substituting that in (b)

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ye

wintry sparrow
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Use that and find h

noble umbra
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I don’t know what anything is

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😬

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so
$\fac{8}{24}=\frac{h}{2}$

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$\frac{8}{24}=\frac{h}{2}$

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Mathgeek007

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$\frac{16}{24}=h$

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Mathgeek007

wintry sparrow
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h = 4/6

noble umbra
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0.6

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Ok

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Yup

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So hypotenuse = 0.8

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$h=\frac{2}{3}=6.67$

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Mathgeek007

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6.67

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A 6.67

wintry sparrow
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2/3 is 0.67

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yes

wintry sparrow
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$h = 0.\bar{6}$

noble umbra
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4/6 = 0.67

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kirby your mom

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I’m lost bro

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I just rounded it of

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don't round

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Yeah cantvround

wintry sparrow
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Wait so is it 0.8

wintry sparrow
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You can't get something to 0.666666 places of accuracy anyways

wintry sparrow
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ft*

winter patrol
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why not just leave it as a fraction

noble umbra
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A = .67

wintry sparrow
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Just write both

noble umbra
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And that’s it

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Like that

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Like that

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Oh shut my b

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Can someone help me prove this identity?

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granite rover
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Try changing the numerator on the left side so that it cancels out with the denominator

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Start by changing 1

shut folio
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it's easier than that

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multiply both sides by the denominator

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and then use the pythagorean trigonometric identity

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I believe usually they want you to get from one expression to the other one by modifying only one

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oh, you're right

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Ok I changed the 1 to sin^2x + cos^2x, but that can't cancel with the denominator can it?

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No, but you know what a^2+2ab+b^2 factors into

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Oh I see...

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Solved it. Thank you

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so

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for telling apart concave up/down functions

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my book only says concave up skethces are ones where the graph of the function is above the tangent lines to the function

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and Idk why I'm struggling with that idea

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like is it possible to say concave up are graphs that just open up? like a U shape almost?

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or maybe I need super exaggerated tangent lines?

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thoughts?

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concave up means it's a portion of a U shape yeah

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both definitions are fine

merry stream
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alright thanks @spare crypt

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,wolf plot x^3

supple knot
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This has an inflection point / change in concavity, but not any local extrema

merry stream
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oh shoot I forgot about that

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and how would that look like with y''

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just like, no local extrema but y''=0 when x= (something)?

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Hi

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How would i solve this?

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I know x cannot equal 4

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and I know that everything in the square root can't be negative, but idk how to find for which values the square root is negative and for which they're positive since it's a fraction

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Probably range or domain.

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or domain maybe?

restive river
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Hint: ||For the value inside square root to be negative, either numerator or denominator is negative, but not both at the same time.||

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does anyone see what i missed here?

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so i changed my answer to 90000(1/15)^t/6.7

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and that's apparently correctly

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so I should read "bacteria decays by a factor of 1/15 every 6.7 minutes"

stuck field
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Think it like compound interest if you can relate to it.

worthy quest
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as "the bacteria has 1/15 of it's initial population remaining after 6.7"

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rather than it loses 1/15 of it's initial population

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this doesn't seem correct

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yeah if you told it me grows by 1/15 rather than decays by 1/15

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i would obviously interpret that as you gain 1/15 of 90000

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am i just not englishing or what?

stuck field
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Compound interest formula makes perfect sense here.

worthy quest
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the problem i'm having

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is the "correct" answer is telling me that

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after 6.7 minutes

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the population is 1/15 of the initial number

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not that it decayed by 1/15th

stuck field
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Is that so?

worthy quest
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it seems to be

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90000(1/15) is 6000

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so after 6.7 minutes you would only have 6000 total

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rather than 6000 from 90000

stuck field
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No you would have 90000-6000

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That means you are doing 90000-1/15×6000
That is 90000×14/15

worthy quest
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are you saying that based on the wording of the problem or off of what the program says the correct answer is?

stuck field
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That's what you've written there.

worthy quest
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yes but the program says 90000(1/15)^t/6.7 is correct

stuck field
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1/15 or 14/15?

worthy quest
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1/15 is correct

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i got it wrong with 14/15