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toxic marsh
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power rule

empty sail
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My suggestion, make all the x's have powers so you can combine it all. Like $\sqrt{x} = x^{\frac{1}{2}}$ so then something like $x \sqrt{x} = x^{\frac{3}{2}}$

thorny flameBOT
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dldh06

toxic marsh
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yea I did that in the scratch work 😛

empty sail
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Doesn't look like it

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Because if you did $$x^5 \sqrt{x} = x^{\frac{11}{2}}$$

thorny flameBOT
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dldh06

empty sail
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And I don't see a 11/2

topaz sinewBOT
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toxic marsh
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oh

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toxic marsh
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ty

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neon iron
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I need help

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neon iron
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,rotate

thorny flameBOT
neon iron
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So I know I should split this into cases

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But from there…

wooden matrix
neon iron
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Well

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My cases were I think x>4 and x<4

wooden matrix
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no

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there are 3 cases.

neon iron
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x=0?

wooden matrix
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Use the hint you've cropped out

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How do you usually handle abs value equations

neon iron
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Positive or negative

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I think

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Right?

topaz sinewBOT
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@neon iron Has your question been resolved?

neon iron
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<@&286206848099549185>

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Please

vital relic
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ooh this is fun

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@neon iron hi

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If there was just one absolute value, do you know how to approach?

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^ Are you familiar with this

drifting swift
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i think this might be technically correct but misleading

vital relic
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Was gonna generalise to 3

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misleading how?

drifting swift
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someone who's not fluent in algebra can easily get confused by this

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i mean, even i took a second to parse it

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anyway, ||the most sensible case breakdown is into three cases: x ≥ 4; -4 ≤ x < 4; x < -4. the rest is algebra & linear inequalities||

drifting swift
neon iron
vital relic
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Yh maybe. I was taught to solve equations/inequalities by making sure you had both forwards and backwards directions.

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Anyways --- take Ann's hint. You use the same idea

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except now you need to split into 3 cases

vital relic
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(Case 1) OR (Case 2) OR (Case 3)

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That was what I was trying to get at

neon iron
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Wait oh

drifting swift
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might be better to phrase it in terms of unions and intersections of per-case solution sets

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also @neon iron if you want you can put the point 4 into the middle case

neon iron
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I see

drifting swift
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it doesn't really matter exactly which cases the boundary points go in

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they can even be their own cases

vital relic
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All of this thinking comes from the definition

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Notice that x = 0

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Can be split into the top or bottom (it doesn't matter because 0 = -0)

neon iron
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So going one case at a time, if x>=4 then

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What can I do

drifting swift
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if x ≥ 4 then what is |x-4|?

neon iron
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x-4

drifting swift
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and what is |x+4|?

neon iron
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x+4

drifting swift
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so what does your inequality become?

neon iron
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x-4+x+4<=10

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2x<=10

drifting swift
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exactly

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do the same rewrite procedure in each case to reduce the inequality to linear

neon iron
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x>=5

drifting swift
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...what

neon iron
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Flip the sign

drifting swift
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why flip the sign?

neon iron
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When dividing in inequalities, right?

drifting swift
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no

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just because you're dividing by something in an inequality does not by itself mean the sign must be flipped

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otherwise, according to your own logic, 10 < 30 implies 5 > 15

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because "fLiP tHe SiGn"

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you flip the sign when you multiply or divide by a negative number

sweet shard
# neon iron x>=5

also, always check convenient numbers when doing inequality problems. x=1: 2 * 1 <= 10 is true but 1 >= 5 is false. it takes a second of more work but saves lots of bad mistakes

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"sanity check"

neon iron
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Ah

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So then x <= 5

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That is for the first case

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Now for the next

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The next case is a bit different

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I would probably want to split it

drifting swift
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do you mean the middle case or the left case

neon iron
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Middle case

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When x>=-4

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x+4+4-x

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8<=10

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Hmm

drifting swift
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x ≥ -4 is not the condition of the middle case

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the condition of the middle case is -4 ≤ x < 4

neon iron
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I split it

drifting swift
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??

neon iron
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Since I don’t know how to use the whole inequality

drifting swift
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without knowing x < 4, you cannot conclude |x-4| = 4-x

neon iron
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Right

drifting swift
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but anyway, what you should conclude here is that ||the entire interval covered by the middle case, in this case [-4, 4), is part of the solution.||

neon iron
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I don’t understand

drifting swift
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what do you not understand?

drifting swift
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very helpful /s

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which part of that message do you not understand?

neon iron
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The hidden part

drifting swift
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...

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ok

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fine

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i thought i was going to get some more specifics out of you

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but i guess not

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are you willing to take a step back and having me try to appeal to some general knowledge that i imagine you should have?

neon iron
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I mean you are

drifting swift
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oh

neon iron
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But I don’t see how you got there

drifting swift
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how could i forget

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your refusal to answer yes-no questions

neon iron
drifting swift
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"You didn't ask one" [proceeds to locate and respond to the question that i DID ask]

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okay so

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are you familiar with the concept of intervals as geometric objects on a number line

drifting swift
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please do not reply-ping me so often.

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but ok

neon iron
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Ok

drifting swift
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and you know that rather than speaking of individual 'solutions' to equations and especially inequalities, one should really speak of the solution set (which may contain only one number, or may be empty, or may even be infinite), yes?

neon iron
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Yes

drifting swift
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okay

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in solving some inequalities, it is helpful to partition the number line into several subsets - typically these subsets are intervals and hence described by simple inequalities
then, on each interval, we reduce the inequality to one that is easier to solve, solve it, and take the intersection of the resulting solution set with the interval covered by the case

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and afterwards, we take the union of all of those intersections, and that's the solution set of the original inequality

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you are familiar with this principle, yes?

neon iron
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Yes

drifting swift
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ok

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it applies here just fine

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our second case covers the interval [-4, 4)

neon iron
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Yes

drifting swift
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and the inequality we got for case 2 is true unconditionally, i.e. its solution set is R

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or (-∞, +∞) if you prefer

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so the 'contribution' of this case to the solution set is (-∞, +∞) ∩ [-4, 4) = [-4, 4)

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the whole solution set is [-4, 4) ∪ <something else>

neon iron
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Ok

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4+x+x-4

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Same thing

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Hmm

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This is for x<=-4

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What did i do wrong?

sweet shard
neon iron
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4+x+x-4<=10

neon iron
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Ok

sweet shard
neon iron
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4+x+4+x<=10

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2x<=2

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x<=1

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That’s a bit controversial

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Because we had x<=5 and x in [4,-4)

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I’m stuck

sweet shard
thorny flameBOT
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riemann

sweet shard
neon iron
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|x+4| is -x-4

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|x-4| is -x+4

sweet shard
neon iron
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-x-4-x+4

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0

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Hmm

sweet shard
neon iron
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I hate this problem tbh

sweet shard
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everyone hates math at some point

neon iron
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-2x<=10

sweet shard
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looks good

neon iron
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X>=-5

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This makes the answer [-4,4) U [-5,5]

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Right?

sweet shard
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looks good, just simplify

neon iron
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Simplify what?

sweet shard
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your interval

neon iron
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In what way?

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I don’t know how to simplify it

sweet shard
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draw a picture

neon iron
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I know they overlap

sweet shard
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great. what are the endpoints of which they overlap

neon iron
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Except one is nonstrict

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The -4)

sweet shard
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do you know the definition of the union?

neon iron
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Oh wait

sweet shard
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use the definition and you'll get it

neon iron
sweet shard
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no i wouldn't tell you to simplify if it were

neon iron
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I do y really know the definition then

sweet shard
neon iron
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[-5,4)

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Did I simplify it

sweet shard
sweet shard
neon iron
sweet shard
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"and" is different from "or". the former refers to intersection $\cap$ and the latter refers to union $\cup$

thorny flameBOT
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riemann

neon iron
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So it’s or

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I’m really confused

sweet shard
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ask questions about this

neon iron
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I mean

sweet shard
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there's at least one mistake in there, can you find it?

neon iron
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Our intervals overlap

neon iron
sweet shard
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your lesson is to understand unions right now

neon iron
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Which is it

vital relic
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Have you seen set notation?

mortal thunder
neon iron
neon iron
vital relic
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$$A\cup B := {x:x\in A \textnormal{ OR }x\in B}$$
$$A\cap B := {x:x\in A \textnormal{ AND }x\in B}$$

neon iron
thorny flameBOT
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Shuri2060

sweet shard
neon iron
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In our case

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Is it the first or the second

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I think the first

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Do our union is ok

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I also have to go soon

sweet shard
neon iron
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Or

sweet shard
# sweet shard ask questions about this

do you see how $(3, 9) \cup [7, 11] = (3, 11]$ from the definition? 10 isn't in the first interval, but it is in the second interval, and that's all you need to be in the union.

thorny flameBOT
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riemann

sweet shard
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in english, the union represents all numbers in at least one of the intervals.

neon iron
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Ok

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So what did i have to simplify

sweet shard
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but or instead of and

sweet shard
neon iron
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Since it’s or

sweet shard
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you should really understand that example

vital relic
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Can you see how these 2 intervals can be combined into one, because they overlap?

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Terrible drawing, but hope it expresses the idea 🤔

neon iron
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Or

neon iron
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[-4,-5]

sweet shard
neon iron
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What am I not understanding about them

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Hmm

sweet shard
neon iron
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[-5,5]

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I think that’s it

sweet shard
neon iron
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I@ certainties

neon iron
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What proof?

sweet shard
neon iron
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It was correct

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Gotta go

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Thanks for the help

sweet shard
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hope you learned unions and intervals

neon iron
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👍

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neon iron
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neon iron
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This is what I got going so far

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Not sure if much of it is right. I'm not entirely sure how to go on from here

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@neon iron Has your question been resolved?

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@neon iron Has your question been resolved?

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@neon iron Has your question been resolved?

vernal vale
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@neon iron still around?

neon iron
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hii there!

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sorry for the late reply (๑•﹏•)

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@vernal vale nw if you can't help rn, but if you're not free within ~10 minutesish I think I'll head to bed since it's nearly 1am lol

vernal vale
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oh

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tight

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nah im here

neon iron
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oh thank you

vernal vale
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so

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just in case you were gonna come back

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i made a thing

neon iron
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whoa

neon iron
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thank you!!

vernal vale
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might help illustrate idk

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if its just confusing ignore it

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well this is just part a i guess

neon iron
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yeah, it's okay I've tried using desmos to visualise it before

vernal vale
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and you maybe already had it

neon iron
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no I didn't get this result though

vernal vale
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that its just like

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its just finding f(x) = f'(r)(x-r) for some root?

neon iron
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is that it?

vernal vale
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yea

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f'(r)(x-r) is the equation of the tangent line at a root r

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so where its equal to f(x) is the other intersection

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youll get at least 2

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at least for distinct

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maybe only two thonk

neon iron
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so f'(r)(x-r) = f(x) will give me 2 solutions?

vernal vale
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yea, the first is obvious

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the second is the one a is asking for

neon iron
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alright yeah well the first one is just the root, right?

vernal vale
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yup 😄

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since its a tangent line

neon iron
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coolio

vernal vale
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we expect it be equal there

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as far as colinearity thonk

neon iron
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alright can you stay here whilst I work this out because I spent a good chunk of my time on part a x)

vernal vale
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yea lol

neon iron
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worried I'll mess up somewhere

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ty!!

vernal vale
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im not 100% sure what the easy way is for colinearity

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i think youd just show like

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pick 2 of them, up to you

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since a unique line goes through 2 unique points

neon iron
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oh I've a question

vernal vale
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show the third point is on that line

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given this choice

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ok

neon iron
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f'(r)

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that's not f`(x) right

vernal vale
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no

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f'(x) is the derivative

neon iron
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yep

vernal vale
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f'(r) is a constant, its the slope of the function at point x=r

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well it will be a constant, if you elect a value for alpha or beta or gamma

neon iron
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oh, I see

vernal vale
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otherwise its a function of alpha or beta or gamma

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but not x

neon iron
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hmm well could you go about showing me how you'd calculate f`(r)?

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since I'm not really too sure

vernal vale
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like you have that $f(x) = ax^3 + bx^2 + cx + d$ then

thorny flameBOT
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jan Niku

vernal vale
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$f'(x) = 3ax^2 + 2bx+c$

thorny flameBOT
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jan Niku

neon iron
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yup

vernal vale
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so for example $f'(\alpha) = 3a\alpha ^2 + 2b \alpha + c$

neon iron
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mhm, got that

vernal vale
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and thats it

thorny flameBOT
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jan Niku

vernal vale
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then the tangent line for root alpha is $(3a \alpha ^2 + 2 b \alpha + c)(x-\alpha)$

thorny flameBOT
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jan Niku

neon iron
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oooh I see

vernal vale
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oh wait

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is solving this equality not super trivial

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huh

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lol

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so i think

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i think the trick is

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you know (x-a) is a root

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i think

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then you can divide it out

neon iron
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yeah it's a root

vernal vale
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and know there wont be a remainder?

neon iron
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yup, according to the factor theorem

vernal vale
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then its a quadratic

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which more or less trivializes finding the roots

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i think

neon iron
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so... would it be like (x - beta)(x - gamma) = f`(r)

vernal vale
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yup 😄

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here r would be alpha

neon iron
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yup, I didn't see that first lol

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and uh, then what?

vernal vale
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so you get what like

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i may just use symbolab

neon iron
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whatever is easiest for you!

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just thankful you're helping out lol

vernal vale
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frig man

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its still not super easy it

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well

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its a quadratic

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a = 1

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specifically a as the coefficient of the x^2 term

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not to get confused

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since running out of letters

neon iron
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lol

vernal vale
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a=1 since x hits x once

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then

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b = -beta-gamma

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and c = beta * gamma - f'(alpha)

neon iron
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woah...

vernal vale
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so if there is some simplification that happens idk

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you can state it generally in that way

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i am curious about the two solutions you get though

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you only want one right soo

neon iron
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yuh

vernal vale
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idk lemme see

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OH

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lol

neon iron
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hm?

vernal vale
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you still get the root out

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duh

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so youll get two solutions, one will be just

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like if you do this for alpha like we are

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the two solutions will be alpha, then the actual solution

neon iron
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the actual solution>

vernal vale
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yea

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so two solutions for the quadratic

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the quadratic being like

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our difference function right

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between the tangent line and the original function

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we wanna find where difference is 0 and they intersect

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youll still get two roots since its a quadratic

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and theyre the values you expect

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im trying to think how to isolate the one thats not just the root you already have thonk

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does that make sense though

neon iron
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hmmm

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I think I'll sleep on this one ngl

vernal vale
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word

neon iron
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maybe another day when I have a clear head x)

vernal vale
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well

neon iron
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thanks for the help1

vernal vale
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if you made it this far

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youre pretty close

neon iron
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yeee

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tysm

vernal vale
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remember what i said about colinear 😄

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less to figure out later

neon iron
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yee! I'll be rereading this!

vernal vale
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i think that method will work

neon iron
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gotchu

vernal vale
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gn

neon iron
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gn!1

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If the question asked what the slope of the inverse function was at -1, -1/2, how would we find that?

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stoic elm
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7x^2 + 21x + 14 = 0

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stoic elm
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can you explain how to solve? ^ im a bit confused on all the steps

wild inlet
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How do we achieve that

stoic elm
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divide 7?

wild inlet
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Write the equation now

stoic elm
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x^2 + 3x + 2 = 0

wild inlet
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Ok we don’t need to write 1 btw

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That’s implied

stoic elm
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ok

wild inlet
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Ok so now you have

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x^2 + 3x + 2 = 0 right

stoic elm
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yes

wild inlet
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Now what two numbers can you multiply to get 2. But also those 2 numbers have to be able to sum up to 3

stoic elm
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i dont understand

wild inlet
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For example if it was x^2 + 9x + 20
Then it’d be (x + 4)(x + 5)

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Because 4 times 5 is 20

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And 4 + 5 is 9

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x^2 + 3x + 2 = 0 right
So for this what do we put?

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First off what times what is 2

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Think of the simplest thing

stoic elm
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1

wild inlet
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Right

wild inlet
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(X ….) (x….)

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Because you know 2x1 = 2

stoic elm
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(x + 1) (x+2)

wild inlet
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And 2+1 = 3

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Yup

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Now we equate that to 0

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X + 1 = 0

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X = ?

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And next to it you put an “or” x + 2 = 0

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X = ?

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@stoic elm

stoic elm
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-1 + 1 = 0

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im so confused

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-2+2=0

wild inlet
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Yep

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So you put

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X = -1 or X = -2

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As answer

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Do you want to practice with one more?

stoic elm
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one sec

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writing notes

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do we always divide by the x^2 first?

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on all?

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and why?

wild inlet
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Because then we can use the (x…)(x…)

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If we have 2x^2 in the formula we can’t use the (x…)(x…) notation

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Because x times x is just x^2

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It’s not 3x^2 or 2x^2

stoic elm
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give another example please

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im still lost

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thanks a lot though

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just type the question and ill solve

wild inlet
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2x^2 + 10x + 12 = 0

stoic elm
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just correct if its right or worng

wild inlet
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There is also a method called the ABC formula which is used if you can’t solve it with the (x…)(x…) notation

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With the abc formula u never have to divide the x^2

stoic elm
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x+3 x+2?

wild inlet
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Yep

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X = ??

stoic elm
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0

wild inlet
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X = …. Or x = ….

wild inlet
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X + 3 = 0 OR x+2 = 0

stoic elm
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-3 -2

wild inlet
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Yep. Do u wanna check if it works?

stoic elm
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u plug in right?

wild inlet
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Plug in -3 or -2 and u will get a true equation

stoic elm
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example^

wild inlet
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Bye i gtg

north field
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bruh cant u just use the quadratic eq

stoic elm
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im confused sir, been a while

north field
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wait a sec
doing it

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that sounds like something to bring up with the professor before plunging into any computations

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Would we proceed with the calculations with a normal piecewise fourier expansion, except keep period as 2pi?

drifting swift
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i don't think we should proceed with any calculations at all

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sorry I'm very confused, are there no calculations required for the question?
Because I was going to approach this using a piecewise fourier expansion with 2 integrals with limits 0-0.5pi and 0.5pi-pi.

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but wasn't sure if my approach is correct

drifting swift
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the question itself is messed up

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because, as you said, we aren't told at all what the function is between pi and 2pi

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How come x^2^0 is just x? I understand that 2^0 = 1 and x^1 = x but isn't zero to the power of any number defined as just 1? Like if I took any arbitrary integer a^0 it would be defined as one and if x is an arbitrary number then x^2 is just an arbitrary number so I would expect x^2^0 to be 1?

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$x^{2^0} \neq (x^2)^0$

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Okay so the correct way to interpret x^2^0 is to interpret it as saying x to the power of (2 to the power of zero) rather than (x to the power of 2) to the power of 0?

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Any way I can solve this?

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neon iron
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<@&286206848099549185> Anyone?

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rich fossil
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Triangle Proportionality Theorem

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Side Splitter Theorem

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Idk what it's called

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There's a few other ways you could do this too

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rich fossil
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Yeah

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# rich fossil Yeah

But if the question says to round my answer to 3 s.f , that doesn't make sense because I have 9

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9.00

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BC

rich fossil
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hmmm

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We could if we could have the values for BE or EC

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I know the first digit has three possibilities (0, 1, or 2), but I'm not quite sure where to continue from there since the second digit may have 6 possibilities or 5 possibilities depending on whether the first digit was 0 or not, and the digits after that are also dependent on the previous digits since the last digits must be a 0 or a 5.

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$\boxed{\cdot}\boxed{\cdot}\boxed{\cdot}\boxed{\cdot}$

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mortal thunder
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Need to fill those 4 places with digits 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6

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such that, the number is always divisible by 5

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And the thousands place digit is, at max 2

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And the divisibility rule of 5 suggests another condition on how this number should look like

pulsar wyvern
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That the last digit must be 0 or 5, right?

mortal thunder
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Yes, exactly!

pulsar wyvern
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Count?

mortal thunder
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I'm sorry, I mean... Have you learnt the counting method in whatever lesson this question is from?

pulsar wyvern
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Ah, combinatorics?

mortal thunder
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Yeah

pulsar wyvern
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Yes, I've learned about combinatorics and permutations.

mortal thunder
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Oh nice!

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$\boxed{\cdot}\boxed{\cdot}\boxed{\cdot}\boxed{\cdot}$

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mortal thunder
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So you have these four places and.

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conditions are :

Last two digits are 0 or 5

First two digits are at most 2

No digit must be repeated

It can be either a one digit number, a 2-digit, a 3, or a 4-digit

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Can you count the number of ways of forming such a number?

pulsar wyvern
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I'm not sure how. D:

mortal thunder
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Aww bearlain

pulsar wyvern
mortal thunder
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okay, I'll walk you through

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First

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how many ways can you fix a digit to the unit's place?

pulsar wyvern
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Two.

mortal thunder
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Right..

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so whether it be a 1, 2, 3 or 4 digit number.. these two digits must always be fixed

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Now..

  1. how many 1 digit number?
pulsar wyvern
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Two.

mortal thunder
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ehh? 0 is positive? 👀

pulsar wyvern
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Oh.

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Oops, one.

mortal thunder
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:p

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next

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how many "2" digit numbers?

pulsar wyvern
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6 * 2 = 12?

mortal thunder
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wow, how'd you do that-

pulsar wyvern
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Wait, but then there's 0 being the first number.

mortal thunder
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Mhmm

pulsar wyvern
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11?

mortal thunder
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*6( when 0 is the unit's digit ) + 5( when 5 in unit's digit )

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Yes

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,calc 6+5

thorny flameBOT
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Result:

11
mortal thunder
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oops

pulsar wyvern
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:o

mortal thunder
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next, how many 3 digit numbers?

pulsar wyvern
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Uhhh

mortal thunder
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5 at unit's place -

pulsar wyvern
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5 * 6 * 1 - 1 = 29 with 5 as the last digit?

mortal thunder
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oops

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nope

pulsar wyvern
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D:

mortal thunder
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since 5 is fixed

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you're left with 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 6

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Now, since 0 can't go to hundreds digits, the number of ways of fixing the hundreds digit is?

pulsar wyvern
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Ohhh, I subtracted the wrong number.

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5 * 5 * 1 = 25 with 5 as the last digit?

mortal thunder
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Yep!

pulsar wyvern
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And then with 0 as the last digit,
6 * 5 * 1 = 30?

mortal thunder
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5( because 1, 2, 3, 4, 6 ) times 5( because 0 plus 4 of the remaining digits )

mortal thunder
pulsar wyvern
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:D

mortal thunder
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so total number of 3 digit numbers?

pulsar wyvern
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25 + 30 = 55.

mortal thunder
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(ヘ・_・)ヘ┳━┳

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what about 4-digit numbers?

pulsar wyvern
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Hmm

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With 5 as the last digit...

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5 * 5 * 4 * 1 = 100?

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And then with 0 as the last digit,
6 * 5 * 4 * 1 = 120?

mortal thunder
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okay I think you can do this...
the idea is to be able to write:

Answer = 1 + (5 + 6) + (5 x 5 + 5 x 6) + (5 x 5 x 4 + 6 x 5 x 4)

in one go

pulsar wyvern
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:o

mortal thunder
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Yep, correct!

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pulsar wyvern
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So 1 + 11 + 25 + 30 + 100 + 120?

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,calc 1 + 11 + 25 + 30 + 100 + 120

thorny flameBOT
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Result:

287
mortal thunder
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mhmm

pulsar wyvern
mortal thunder
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means we did sth stupid (ヘ・_・)ヘ┳━┳

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you know what?

pulsar wyvern
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?

mortal thunder
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the conditions, can you review them?

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conditions are :

Last two digits are 0 or 5

First two digits are at most 2

No digit must be repeated

It can be either a one digit number, a 2-digit, a 3, or a 4-digit

pulsar wyvern
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Oh.

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Oh.

mortal thunder
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👀

pulsar wyvern
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Oops.

mortal thunder
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thousands digit can be either 1 or 2

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that's it

pulsar wyvern
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Then with 5 as the last digit.
2 * 5 * 4 * 1 = 40.
With 0 as the last digit.
2 * 5 * 4 * 1 = 40.

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,calc 1 + 11 + 25 + 30 + 40 + 40

thorny flameBOT
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Result:

147
pulsar wyvern
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It's there. :o

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Thank youu :D

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happy nitrogen :D

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would the answer be -6.5cos(pi/3x)+10

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It is annual interest calculations

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<@&286206848099549185> ?

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Hello! I need to use a formula for the area of an n sided regular polygon

hot nova
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P stands for the area

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I got it from my book

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I could just use it but I really want to know how to come up with it from scratch

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I am a little confused by this tg (tangens)

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If you want the derivation

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What you could do is connect the center of the polygon with its vertices

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Therefore dividing the n-sided regular polygon into n identical triangles

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So if you work out area for just one such triangle, you can multiply it by n to get the entire area

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I found answer on geeks for geeks website. Programming helps a lot :p

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Can't see how programming is involved in the derivation of the formula but alright

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What is your question?

worthy storm
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Well you certainly can't get infinitely many solutions, the first three equations already constrain you to at most one solution.

iron harness
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Not sure about that

worthy storm
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So the fourth one either is or is not consistent with the first three.

iron harness
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Oh yeah sorry, yes @worthy storm is right.

worthy storm
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Yes, that's forced by the first three equations.

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So in fact for any choice of a,b,c, you'll also have (0,0,0) as a solution to the fourth equation.

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Hence the fourth one is always consistent with the first three

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Well 0,0,0 is always a solution as we argued above, so "no solution" is not a possibility

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And the first three equations rule out any solution other than 0,0,0

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Hence 0,0,0 is always the unique solution, regardless of a,b,c

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Strange question IMO. 😁

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Maybe it gets more interesting in the subsequent parts.

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Yes, 0,0,0 is always a solution, plug it in and see!

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To use linear algebraic terms, the null space of a matrix is a subspace, so it always contains the origin.

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What quadrant would it be in on the cartesian plane if tan theta is positive and sin theta is positive as well?

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all students take calculus

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Hi can someone help me? I will really appreciate it thank youCutePandaLove

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tiny wolf
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it hasn't even been close to 15 minutes!

neon iron
tiny wolf
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set up two equations, one for each scenario, the solve the system

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tiny wolf
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yeah so just write an equation for the first scenario

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this one

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thats step 1

chrome glen
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radio ratio

tiny wolf
neon iron
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Sorry if I'm bothering you

tiny wolf
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youre not

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do you know what ratio is?

neon iron
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Thx so kind

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tiny wolf
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so if $x : y$ = $\frac{3}{4}$, this is the same as $\frac{x}{y} = \frac{3}{4}$, right?

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Migillope

tiny wolf
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ok. so the first sentence says if the price for each is increased by 20, the ratio is 5:2

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i.e., $\frac{x +20}{y+20} = \frac{5}{2}$.

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Migillope

tiny wolf
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Does that make sense?

neon iron
tiny wolf
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ok, so set up a similar equation for the second scenario

neon iron
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x-5/y-5 = 5/1

neon iron
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but we have

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2 equations

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we solve

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them both?

tiny wolf
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click the link

tiny wolf
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yes, otherwise known as simultaneous equations

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if you know how to solve those, like by using substitution, do the same here

neon iron
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Can you help me

tiny wolf
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Ping @ helpers, I gotta go

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<@&286206848099549185> hi

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what

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well im back now

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how does horizontal and vertical transformations effect points ?

toxic crystal
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Im trying to figure out this problem :

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along with this :

toxic crystal
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that doesnt help me

empty sail
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It should

toxic crystal
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how can I shrink by 6 horizontally and then shift right by 5

empty sail
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A shrink is a compression

toxic crystal
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yea

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but I dont know how to do the math with only points

empty sail
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So a horizontal compression of 6 means you divide x/6

toxic crystal
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Im not given a graph

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after doing that how do I shift 5/6 by 5 ?

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to the right

empty sail
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That should be it

toxic crystal
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so (5,-2) shrunk horizontally by 6 = (5/6,2) now if I shift that to the right by 5 what is it

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You shift the x right by 5, by adding 5

toxic crystal
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right so 10/6 ?

empty sail
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No

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Common denominator

toxic crystal
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ah I see

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any chance u know discrete mathematics ?

empty sail
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Depends

toxic crystal
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Can u explain this in english

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That, I can not

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ok, thanks for earlier

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i need to find these for the function given above

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what

neon iron
leaden tusk
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what have you tried

neon iron
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i tried using the f(a+h)-f(a)/h

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since i am not given a point yet except a = 5

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but i dont know how to plug it in as a fractional

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i belive im supposed to use this derivative formula

leaden tusk
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nothing changes with the fraction

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other than the fact that it's a fraction

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you do it the same as any other time

neon iron
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so assuming im doing this correct this is what im getting for the next step

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one sec

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Feel like im mixing up too many variables though from what i seen

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it's a tad confusing because there's two limit definitions, one normally uses x and h, one normally uses x and a

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and yours seems to be combining the two

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i understand im supposed to use this one since im not given a point

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but when i have to plug it in with it being a fraction and having a + h and x in my function it gets confusing

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replace (a+h) with (x+h) and continue from there

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then once you actually get your derivative, find f'(a)

neon iron
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i got 0 lol

leaden tusk
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can't divide by zero

neon iron
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do i have top part right or am i approaching it worng

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top part is right, but you can't plug 0 in for h yet

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you need to cancel the h

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or at least get it to where you're not dividing by zero

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i got -1/(x+5)^2 for f'(a)

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hi does anybody know how to solve this? it seems impossible to me

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the rules are each number from 1-16 may only be used once

empty sail
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Trying out every sort of combination until you get the right one

fiery ocean
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wouldnt that take hours

languid cove
# fiery ocean wouldnt that take hours

if this is a puzzle you could just attempt solving for 1 answer at a time using brute-force method, for example on the left column a possible answer is 5 - 5 - 5 - 5 = -15

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a number is only allowed once

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so like they all have to be different

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it's possible to sidestep that fact if you can use numbers with more than a single digit

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tawdry mist
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Those are the questions

empty sail
tawdry mist
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I don't understand jow to turn them into algebraic expressions

empty sail
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Do you understand that when it says 'a ...' that just means that it is the unknown?

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Meaning a variable

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Like a value, a number, etc

tawdry mist
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For the first I guess it would be 2n + 5 but idk about the rest

empty sail
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That's exactly it for the first one

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Because the unknown, you declared as n, twice n is 2n, then 5 more that number so 2n + 5

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For the next one, what does one quarter of the value mean?

tawdry mist
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1/4?

empty sail
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Yes

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So what does that mean for the value?

tawdry mist
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It's a variable

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So like v

empty sail
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But applying the one quarter part too

tawdry mist
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Ok

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1/4v

empty sail
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Yes

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Then it says three less than that

tawdry mist
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So subtract 3

empty sail
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Yes

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So the expression is?

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1/4v - 3

empty sail
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Yes that is right

tawdry mist
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Wow

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Can you help me with the next please

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Do you think you can do the rest on your own?

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Try it yourself first

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Ok

empty sail
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See what you get, then say it and I'll check that

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N + N × 7?

empty sail
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Close

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You have some things swapped

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What does it mean when it's a product?

tawdry mist
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It's a variable?

empty sail
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Also, it's suggested to use two different variables if you have number unknowns

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But in general, what is a product?

tawdry mist
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Variable or letter?

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Wait the total

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Like the final number

empty sail
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Like mathematically speaking, what is a product?

tawdry mist
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Result

empty sail
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What math operation is involved with product?

tawdry mist
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Multiplication

empty sail
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So then, the product of a number and another number means?

tawdry mist
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A × B + 7?

empty sail
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Exactly that

tawdry mist
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Ok thank you so much! Do you mind if I figure the rest and send what I get to you?

empty sail
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I probably won't be on much longer but if you post it, someone around can check it

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Just recall that there are synonyms for the math operations

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You discovered a few like increases, more than, etc is adding

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Product, twice a number, etc is multiplication

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Ok thanks

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Hiii, can someone help me with this question? Whenever I do this question, I get 2.92 and -2.12 and that physically does not make sense for this problem

sudden burrow
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I think u use 2.92 as the width then find the length no?

short wedge
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oh wow why didnt i think of that

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omg

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THAT MAKES SO MUCH SENSE, TYY

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no probs

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Trying to help?

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I’m stuck I don’t know what to do

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alpine mist
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You're equations are wrong, the first one should have -y

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But once you have\ $3x-y = 91$\ $2x+y = 89$\ you should try adding the two equations together

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Zybikron

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is this available

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blazing kelp
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how do you find the area of the colored section

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radius is 2cm

rich fossil
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there's a few ways we could do this

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i would take a more well technical approach

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So we know that triangle AOB=COB

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Have you been taught how to find the area of a sector? sine rule? cosine rule? or even heron's formula?

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How do I find vc help?

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iron harness
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What is vc? I think you should just go ahead and ask the question.

vapid lichen
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vc=voice chat

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vcs are at the bottom of the channel list, but we dont have nearly as many vc helpers as text channel helpers so ur better off asking here

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@vapid lichen where at the bottom can I find the vc option for help?

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all I see is

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Hidden math help

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see the "voice" section

pure frigate
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alright

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I typed it in Mathmatics-voice

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hi there i was wondering if someone could help me find my way to come up with an answer for this

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i have tried different alternatives but they seem to make both statements true

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be a lot better if someone could discuss on vc but it's fine on text as well

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<@&286206848099549185> hate to be a bother but i would appreciate it someone could guide me. been at this for more than 3 hours and i just wanna know where i am going wrong cause i am losing my sanity 😩

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keen kindle
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Determine A and v in the function y = A * cos(x-v) if y_min = -4 and y(0) = -1.

keen kindle
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A * cos(-v) = -1

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How do I find A?