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My suggestion, make all the x's have powers so you can combine it all. Like $\sqrt{x} = x^{\frac{1}{2}}$ so then something like $x \sqrt{x} = x^{\frac{3}{2}}$
dldh06
yea I did that in the scratch work 😛
dldh06
And I don't see a 11/2
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I need help
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from there..... what?
x=0?
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ooh this is fun
@neon iron hi
If there was just one absolute value, do you know how to approach?
^ Are you familiar with this
i think this might be technically correct but misleading
someone who's not fluent in algebra can easily get confused by this
i mean, even i took a second to parse it
anyway, ||the most sensible case breakdown is into three cases: x ≥ 4; -4 ≤ x < 4; x < -4. the rest is algebra & linear inequalities||
maybe misleading isnt the right word. 'unnecessarily confusing' would be better
Yes
Yh maybe. I was taught to solve equations/inequalities by making sure you had both forwards and backwards directions.
Anyways --- take Ann's hint. You use the same idea
except now you need to split into 3 cases
How about x>4
Wait oh
might be better to phrase it in terms of unions and intersections of per-case solution sets
also @neon iron if you want you can put the point 4 into the middle case
I see
it doesn't really matter exactly which cases the boundary points go in
they can even be their own cases
All of this thinking comes from the definition
Notice that x = 0
Can be split into the top or bottom (it doesn't matter because 0 = -0)
if x ≥ 4 then what is |x-4|?
x-4
and what is |x+4|?
x+4
so what does your inequality become?
exactly
do the same rewrite procedure in each case to reduce the inequality to linear
x>=5
...what
Flip the sign
why flip the sign?
When dividing in inequalities, right?
no
just because you're dividing by something in an inequality does not by itself mean the sign must be flipped
otherwise, according to your own logic, 10 < 30 implies 5 > 15
because "fLiP tHe SiGn"
you flip the sign when you multiply or divide by a negative number
also, always check convenient numbers when doing inequality problems. x=1: 2 * 1 <= 10 is true but 1 >= 5 is false. it takes a second of more work but saves lots of bad mistakes
"sanity check"
Ah
So then x <= 5
That is for the first case
Now for the next
The next case is a bit different
I would probably want to split it
do you mean the middle case or the left case
x ≥ -4 is not the condition of the middle case
the condition of the middle case is -4 ≤ x < 4
I split it
??
Since I don’t know how to use the whole inequality
without knowing x < 4, you cannot conclude |x-4| = 4-x
Right
but anyway, what you should conclude here is that ||the entire interval covered by the middle case, in this case [-4, 4), is part of the solution.||
I don’t understand
what do you not understand?
This
The hidden part
...
ok
fine
i thought i was going to get some more specifics out of you
but i guess not
are you willing to take a step back and having me try to appeal to some general knowledge that i imagine you should have?
Idk Ig you are right
I mean you are
oh
But I don’t see how you got there
You didn’t ask one
Yes
"You didn't ask one" [proceeds to locate and respond to the question that i DID ask]
okay so
are you familiar with the concept of intervals as geometric objects on a number line
Yes
Ok
and you know that rather than speaking of individual 'solutions' to equations and especially inequalities, one should really speak of the solution set (which may contain only one number, or may be empty, or may even be infinite), yes?
Yes
okay
in solving some inequalities, it is helpful to partition the number line into several subsets - typically these subsets are intervals and hence described by simple inequalities
then, on each interval, we reduce the inequality to one that is easier to solve, solve it, and take the intersection of the resulting solution set with the interval covered by the case
and afterwards, we take the union of all of those intersections, and that's the solution set of the original inequality
you are familiar with this principle, yes?
Yes
Yes
and the inequality we got for case 2 is true unconditionally, i.e. its solution set is R
or (-∞, +∞) if you prefer
so the 'contribution' of this case to the solution set is (-∞, +∞) ∩ [-4, 4) = [-4, 4)
the whole solution set is [-4, 4) ∪ <something else>
can you write the whole inequality
4+x+x-4<=10
do this
Ok
try this again
4+x+4+x<=10
2x<=2
x<=1
That’s a bit controversial
Because we had x<=5 and x in [4,-4)
I’m stuck
ok. start with $x \le -4$. simplify individually $|x+4|$ and $|x-4|$ separately
riemann
use this definition
plug in x=-5
this is also wrong
I hate this problem tbh
everyone hates math at some point
-2x<=10
looks good
looks good, just simplify
Simplify what?
your interval
draw a picture
I know they overlap
great. what are the endpoints of which they overlap
do you know the definition of the union?
Oh wait
Yes
use the definition and you'll get it
This right?
no i wouldn't tell you to simplify if it were
I do y really know the definition then
write this in inequality notation
and spend 3 minutes reading the first half of this before guessing again
-4<=x<4 and -5<=x<=5
"and" is different from "or". the former refers to intersection $\cap$ and the latter refers to union $\cup$
riemann
do the first two examples here
ask questions about this
I mean
there's at least one mistake in there, can you find it?
Our intervals overlap
How is x both less than 9 and 11
your lesson is to understand unions right now
Which is it
Have you seen set notation?
Isn't 8 less than both 9 and 11 ._.

tattoo this on your hand
I@don’t see any mistakes
$$A\cup B := {x:x\in A \textnormal{ OR }x\in B}$$
$$A\cap B := {x:x\in A \textnormal{ AND }x\in B}$$
I’m not allowed to get tattoos
Shuri2060
it was simply a joke. the point is to do more sanity checks
Well
In our case
Is it the first or the second
I think the first
Do our union is ok
I also have to go soon
fix this with the correct word that corresponds to union
Or
do you see how $(3, 9) \cup [7, 11] = (3, 11]$ from the definition? 10 isn't in the first interval, but it is in the second interval, and that's all you need to be in the union.
riemann
in english, the union represents all numbers in at least one of the intervals.
re-write this as a single interval
but or instead of and
using the definition in this article
this was an or and it was simplified to a single interval
you should really understand that example
Can you see how these 2 intervals can be combined into one, because they overlap?
Terrible drawing, but hope it expresses the idea 🤔
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[-4,-5]
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proof?
I@ certainties
it's about as long as this proof
hope you learned unions and intervals
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This is what I got going so far
Not sure if much of it is right. I'm not entirely sure how to go on from here
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sorry for the late reply (๑•﹏•)
@vernal vale nw if you can't help rn, but if you're not free within ~10 minutesish I think I'll head to bed since it's nearly 1am lol
oh thank you
whoa
thank you!!
might help illustrate idk
if its just confusing ignore it
well this is just part a i guess
yeah, it's okay I've tried using desmos to visualise it before
no I didn't get this result though
is that it?
yea
f'(r)(x-r) is the equation of the tangent line at a root r
so where its equal to f(x) is the other intersection
youll get at least 2
at least for distinct
maybe only two 
so f'(r)(x-r) = f(x) will give me 2 solutions?
alright yeah well the first one is just the root, right?
coolio
alright can you stay here whilst I work this out because I spent a good chunk of my time on part a x)
yea lol
im not 100% sure what the easy way is for colinearity
i think youd just show like
pick 2 of them, up to you
since a unique line goes through 2 unique points
oh I've a question
yep
f'(r) is a constant, its the slope of the function at point x=r
well it will be a constant, if you elect a value for alpha or beta or gamma
oh, I see
hmm well could you go about showing me how you'd calculate f`(r)?
since I'm not really too sure
like you have that $f(x) = ax^3 + bx^2 + cx + d$ then
jan Niku
$f'(x) = 3ax^2 + 2bx+c$
jan Niku
yup
so for example $f'(\alpha) = 3a\alpha ^2 + 2b \alpha + c$
mhm, got that
and thats it
jan Niku
then the tangent line for root alpha is $(3a \alpha ^2 + 2 b \alpha + c)(x-\alpha)$
jan Niku
oooh I see
oh wait
is solving this equality not super trivial
huh
lol
so i think
i think the trick is
you know (x-a) is a root
i think

then you can divide it out
yeah it's a root
and know there wont be a remainder?
yup, according to the factor theorem
so... would it be like (x - beta)(x - gamma) = f`(r)
frig man
its still not super easy it
well
its a quadratic
a = 1
specifically a as the coefficient of the x^2 term
not to get confused
since running out of letters
lol
woah...
so if there is some simplification that happens idk
you can state it generally in that way
i am curious about the two solutions you get though

you only want one right soo
yuh
hm?
you still get the root out
duh
so youll get two solutions, one will be just
like if you do this for alpha like we are
the two solutions will be alpha, then the actual solution
the actual solution>
yea
so two solutions for the quadratic
the quadratic being like
our difference function right
between the tangent line and the original function
we wanna find where difference is 0 and they intersect
youll still get two roots since its a quadratic
and theyre the values you expect
im trying to think how to isolate the one thats not just the root you already have 
does that make sense though
word
maybe another day when I have a clear head x)
well
thanks for the help1
yee! I'll be rereading this!
i think that method will work
gotchu
gn
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If the question asked what the slope of the inverse function was at -1, -1/2, how would we find that?
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slope of tangent of inverse function will be the reciprocal of slope of tangent of function itself
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7x^2 + 21x + 14 = 0
can you explain how to solve? ^ im a bit confused on all the steps
First we want to make it so we have 1x^2
How do we achieve that
divide 7?
x^2 + 3x + 2 = 0
ok
yes
Now what two numbers can you multiply to get 2. But also those 2 numbers have to be able to sum up to 3
i dont understand
For example if it was x^2 + 9x + 20
Then it’d be (x + 4)(x + 5)
Because 4 times 5 is 20
And 4 + 5 is 9
x^2 + 3x + 2 = 0 right
So for this what do we put?
First off what times what is 2
Think of the simplest thing
1
Right
So now what will it be written like this
(X ….) (x….)
Because you know 2x1 = 2
(x + 1) (x+2)
And 2+1 = 3
Yup
Now we equate that to 0
X + 1 = 0
X = ?
And next to it you put an “or” x + 2 = 0
X = ?
@stoic elm
Yep
So you put
X = -1 or X = -2
As answer
Do you want to practice with one more?
Because then we can use the (x…)(x…)
If we have 2x^2 in the formula we can’t use the (x…)(x…) notation
Because x times x is just x^2
It’s not 3x^2 or 2x^2
give another example please
im still lost
thanks a lot though
just type the question and ill solve
2x^2 + 10x + 12 = 0
just correct if its right or worng
There is also a method called the ABC formula which is used if you can’t solve it with the (x…)(x…) notation
With the abc formula u never have to divide the x^2
x+3 x+2?
0
X = …. Or x = ….
-3 -2
Yep. Do u wanna check if it works?
u plug in right?
X^2 + 5x + 6 = 0
Plug in -3 or -2 and u will get a true equation
example^
bruh cant u just use the quadratic eq
im confused sir, been a while
wait a sec
doing it
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that sounds like something to bring up with the professor before plunging into any computations
Would we proceed with the calculations with a normal piecewise fourier expansion, except keep period as 2pi?
i don't think we should proceed with any calculations at all
sorry I'm very confused, are there no calculations required for the question?
Because I was going to approach this using a piecewise fourier expansion with 2 integrals with limits 0-0.5pi and 0.5pi-pi.
but wasn't sure if my approach is correct
the question itself is messed up
because, as you said, we aren't told at all what the function is between pi and 2pi
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How come x^2^0 is just x? I understand that 2^0 = 1 and x^1 = x but isn't zero to the power of any number defined as just 1? Like if I took any arbitrary integer a^0 it would be defined as one and if x is an arbitrary number then x^2 is just an arbitrary number so I would expect x^2^0 to be 1?
$x^{2^0} \neq (x^2)^0$
Ansh
Okay so the correct way to interpret x^2^0 is to interpret it as saying x to the power of (2 to the power of zero) rather than (x to the power of 2) to the power of 0?
I dont know how else to phrase this distinction
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Any way I can solve this?
<@&286206848099549185> Anyone?
Triangle Proportionality Theorem
Side Splitter Theorem
Idk what it's called
There's a few other ways you could do this too
Wait but if I 16/8 I get two, and then I 18 / 2 and get 9, does that make them similar?
Yeah
But if the question says to round my answer to 3 s.f , that doesn't make sense because I have 9
9.00
Then we apply this
so there is no way of finding the 3rd side in this problem?
check 'Triangle Proportionality Theorem', 'Side Splitter Theorem', 'Angle Bisector Theorem'
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angle_bisector_theorem
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intercept_theorem
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollonius's_theorem
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Similarity_(geometry)
https://www.varsitytutors.com/hotmath/hotmath_help/topics/triangle-proportionality-theorem
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Don't think so
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I know the first digit has three possibilities (0, 1, or 2), but I'm not quite sure where to continue from there since the second digit may have 6 possibilities or 5 possibilities depending on whether the first digit was 0 or not, and the digits after that are also dependent on the previous digits since the last digits must be a 0 or a 5.
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Hiya
$\boxed{\cdot}\boxed{\cdot}\boxed{\cdot}\boxed{\cdot}$
Ansh
Need to fill those 4 places with digits 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6
such that, the number is always divisible by 5
And the thousands place digit is, at max 2
And the divisibility rule of 5 suggests another condition on how this number should look like
That the last digit must be 0 or 5, right?
Yes, exactly!
Count?
I'm sorry, I mean... Have you learnt the counting method in whatever lesson this question is from?
Ah, combinatorics?
Yeah
Yes, I've learned about combinatorics and permutations.
Ansh
So you have these four places and.
conditions are :
Last two digits are 0 or 5
First two digits are at most 2
No digit must be repeated
It can be either a one digit number, a 2-digit, a 3, or a 4-digit
Can you count the number of ways of forming such a number?
I'm not sure how. D:
Aww 
This is as far as I have gotten.
okay, I'll walk you through
First
how many ways can you fix a digit to the unit's place?
Two.
Right..
so whether it be a 1, 2, 3 or 4 digit number.. these two digits must always be fixed
Now..
- how many 1 digit number?
Two.
ehh? 0 is positive? 👀
6 * 2 = 12?
wow, how'd you do that-
Wait, but then there's 0 being the first number.
Mhmm
11?
Result:
11
oops
:o
next, how many 3 digit numbers?
Uhhh
5 at unit's place -
5 * 6 * 1 - 1 = 29 with 5 as the last digit?
D:
since 5 is fixed
you're left with 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 6
Now, since 0 can't go to hundreds digits, the number of ways of fixing the hundreds digit is?
Yep!
And then with 0 as the last digit,
6 * 5 * 1 = 30?
5( because 1, 2, 3, 4, 6 ) times 5( because 0 plus 4 of the remaining digits )
perfect!
:D
so total number of 3 digit numbers?
25 + 30 = 55.
Hmm
With 5 as the last digit...
5 * 5 * 4 * 1 = 100?
And then with 0 as the last digit,
6 * 5 * 4 * 1 = 120?
okay I think you can do this...
the idea is to be able to write:
Answer = 1 + (5 + 6) + (5 x 5 + 5 x 6) + (5 x 5 x 4 + 6 x 5 x 4)
in one go
:o
Result:
287
mhmm
Ak, that's not an answer choice. D:
?
the conditions, can you review them?
conditions are :
Last two digits are 0 or 5
First two digits are at most 2
No digit must be repeated
It can be either a one digit number, a 2-digit, a 3, or a 4-digit
👀
Oops.
Then with 5 as the last digit.
2 * 5 * 4 * 1 = 40.
With 0 as the last digit.
2 * 5 * 4 * 1 = 40.
,calc 1 + 11 + 25 + 30 + 40 + 40
Result:
147
happy nitrogen :D
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would the answer be -6.5cos(pi/3x)+10
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I am in the mathematics voice channel. I need help with a calculation problem that I can not figure out.
It is annual interest calculations
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Hello! I need to use a formula for the area of an n sided regular polygon
P stands for the area
I got it from my book
I could just use it but I really want to know how to come up with it from scratch
I am a little confused by this tg (tangens)
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If you want the derivation
What you could do is connect the center of the polygon with its vertices
Therefore dividing the n-sided regular polygon into n identical triangles
So if you work out area for just one such triangle, you can multiply it by n to get the entire area
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I found answer on geeks for geeks website. Programming helps a lot :p
Can't see how programming is involved in the derivation of the formula but alright
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What is your question?
Well you certainly can't get infinitely many solutions, the first three equations already constrain you to at most one solution.
Not sure about that
So the fourth one either is or is not consistent with the first three.
Oh yeah sorry, yes @worthy storm is right.
Yes, that's forced by the first three equations.
So in fact for any choice of a,b,c, you'll also have (0,0,0) as a solution to the fourth equation.
Hence the fourth one is always consistent with the first three
Well 0,0,0 is always a solution as we argued above, so "no solution" is not a possibility
And the first three equations rule out any solution other than 0,0,0
Hence 0,0,0 is always the unique solution, regardless of a,b,c
Strange question IMO. 😁
Maybe it gets more interesting in the subsequent parts.
Yes, 0,0,0 is always a solution, plug it in and see!
To use linear algebraic terms, the null space of a matrix is a subspace, so it always contains the origin.
Pleasure, good luck!
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What quadrant would it be in on the cartesian plane if tan theta is positive and sin theta is positive as well?
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Hi can someone help me? I will really appreciate it thank you
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it hasn't even been close to 15 minutes!
I'm sorry.
set up two equations, one for each scenario, the solve the system
Wdym sorry? english is not my first language so I am afraid of making mistakes. Could you please elaborate on that a little more? Thank you
radio ratio
yeah they definitely could have picked a better product haha
Thx so kind
yep
so if $x : y$ = $\frac{3}{4}$, this is the same as $\frac{x}{y} = \frac{3}{4}$, right?
Migillope
Yeah , makes sense
ok. so the first sentence says if the price for each is increased by 20, the ratio is 5:2
i.e., $\frac{x +20}{y+20} = \frac{5}{2}$.
Migillope
Does that make sense?
Yes
ok, so set up a similar equation for the second scenario
x-5/y-5 = 5/1
great
so now you have to equations with two unknowns. Do you know how to solve a system of linear equations?
click the link
simultaneous
yes, otherwise known as simultaneous equations
if you know how to solve those, like by using substitution, do the same here
Idk how 🥲
Can you help me
Ping @ helpers, I gotta go
what
This 😞
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how does horizontal and vertical transformations effect points ?
that doesnt help me
It should
how can I shrink by 6 horizontally and then shift right by 5
A shrink is a compression
So a horizontal compression of 6 means you divide x/6
That should be it
so (5,-2) shrunk horizontally by 6 = (5/6,2) now if I shift that to the right by 5 what is it
You shift the x right by 5, by adding 5
right so 10/6 ?
Depends
Can u explain this in english
That, I can not
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i need to find these for the function given above
what
what have you tried
i tried using the f(a+h)-f(a)/h
since i am not given a point yet except a = 5
but i dont know how to plug it in as a fractional
i belive im supposed to use this derivative formula
nothing changes with the fraction
other than the fact that it's a fraction
you do it the same as any other time
so assuming im doing this correct this is what im getting for the next step
one sec
Feel like im mixing up too many variables though from what i seen
it's a tad confusing because there's two limit definitions, one normally uses x and h, one normally uses x and a
and yours seems to be combining the two
i understand im supposed to use this one since im not given a point
but when i have to plug it in with it being a fraction and having a + h and x in my function it gets confusing
replace (a+h) with (x+h) and continue from there
then once you actually get your derivative, find f'(a)
can't divide by zero
do i have top part right or am i approaching it worng
top part is right, but you can't plug 0 in for h yet
you need to cancel the h
or at least get it to where you're not dividing by zero
i got -1/(x+5)^2 for f'(a)
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hi does anybody know how to solve this? it seems impossible to me
Just a lot of trial an error
Trying out every sort of combination until you get the right one
wouldnt that take hours
if this is a puzzle you could just attempt solving for 1 answer at a time using brute-force method, for example on the left column a possible answer is 5 - 5 - 5 - 5 = -15
it's possible to sidestep that fact if you can use numbers with more than a single digit
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What exactly don't you understand?
I don't understand jow to turn them into algebraic expressions
Do you understand that when it says 'a ...' that just means that it is the unknown?
Meaning a variable
Like a value, a number, etc
For the first I guess it would be 2n + 5 but idk about the rest
That's exactly it for the first one
Because the unknown, you declared as n, twice n is 2n, then 5 more that number so 2n + 5
For the next one, what does one quarter of the value mean?
1/4?
But applying the one quarter part too
So subtract 3
1/4v - 3
Yes that is right
Ok
See what you get, then say it and I'll check that
N + N × 7?
It's a variable?
Also, it's suggested to use two different variables if you have number unknowns
But in general, what is a product?
Like mathematically speaking, what is a product?
Result
What math operation is involved with product?
Multiplication
So then, the product of a number and another number means?
A × B + 7?
Exactly that
Ok thank you so much! Do you mind if I figure the rest and send what I get to you?
I probably won't be on much longer but if you post it, someone around can check it
Just recall that there are synonyms for the math operations
You discovered a few like increases, more than, etc is adding
Product, twice a number, etc is multiplication
Ok thanks
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Hiii, can someone help me with this question? Whenever I do this question, I get 2.92 and -2.12 and that physically does not make sense for this problem
I think u use 2.92 as the width then find the length no?
no probs
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You're equations are wrong, the first one should have -y
But once you have\ $3x-y = 91$\ $2x+y = 89$\ you should try adding the two equations together
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is this available
there's a few ways we could do this
i would take a more well technical approach
So we know that triangle AOB=COB
Have you been taught how to find the area of a sector? sine rule? cosine rule? or even heron's formula?
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How do I find vc help?
What is vc? I think you should just go ahead and ask the question.
vc=voice chat
vcs are at the bottom of the channel list, but we dont have nearly as many vc helpers as text channel helpers so ur better off asking here
@vapid lichen where at the bottom can I find the vc option for help?
all I see is
Hidden math help
see the "voice" section
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hi there i was wondering if someone could help me find my way to come up with an answer for this
i have tried different alternatives but they seem to make both statements true
be a lot better if someone could discuss on vc but it's fine on text as well
<@&286206848099549185> hate to be a bother but i would appreciate it someone could guide me. been at this for more than 3 hours and i just wanna know where i am going wrong cause i am losing my sanity 😩
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Determine A and v in the function y = A * cos(x-v) if y_min = -4 and y(0) = -1.
