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untold cypress
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1/2?

echo siren
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is that area over there

untold cypress
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probably overthinking this

echo siren
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dont worry, dont be harsh with yourself you are close to the answer

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In the other hand this integral $\int_{0}^{1} x/2 $ represents the value of this area

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so basically when you integrate $\int_{0}^{1} \frac{1}{1+x^{2}} - \frac{x}{2}$ you are calculating this area

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BillyElKid

untold cypress
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so yeah

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untold cypress
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pi/4-1/4 should be it if it's under the curve

echo siren
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not so fast

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look at the green part, is just the half of the area enclosed

untold cypress
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so pi/2-1/2

echo siren
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exactly, because it's symmetrical respect the y axis

untold cypress
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i see

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(y+4)^(2)=-3(x+1)

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i managed to solve for the vertex and x-int but i got the y-int wrong

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How am I supposed to answer this? :<. I tried my method of answering it earlier and my tutor said it was all wrong

drifting swift
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@river pendant what was your method?

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maybe there's a mistake in it that can be corrected to make it all right

river pendant
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I tried doing this calculation my tutor gave us for question #2, my answers were long leg = 4 and hypo = 2 √3

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I did the first one right so that's a plus. I just don't know what i can do for question #2

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and all the questions

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nvm, i know what to do know. thanks though

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pliant leaf
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Was wondering how this equals 1

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drifting swift
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do you mean "how do we get to x=1 from this equation?" or "i think x=1 isn't a solution of this equation"

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pliant leaf
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@drifting swift I meant, that I know the solution of the equation is one since my calculator tells me so, however I'm not sure algebraically how that happened.

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I would have divided both sides by 2 and been left with

drifting swift
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you would divide 2 by 2 to get 0?

pliant leaf
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oops

drifting swift
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there we go

pliant leaf
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my fault, overlooked that

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What should I do from this point?

drifting swift
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there are several different things you could do

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for example you could rewrite the left hand side as x^(-1/3)

pliant leaf
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Alright

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How would I get rid of that exponent?

drifting swift
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how would you get rid of the exponent in an equation like z^7 = 128?

pliant leaf
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I would root it

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In this situation could I multiply both sides by the exponent of 3?

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and 1^3 is =1

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1/3*3=1

pliant leaf
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Not sure if I can use exponents like that that works

drifting swift
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you would raise both sides to the power of 3.

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or -3, to get to x directly.

pliant leaf
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Then what would I do?

drifting swift
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after what

pliant leaf
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After arriving to this

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@drifting swift

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Is it possible to simplify this further?

drifting swift
pliant leaf
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ah I was confused because I think thats what I was talking about

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thanks I think I get it

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weary walrus
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Better way to write this?

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huh

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interesting

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How would you set boundaries?

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vocal nymph
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what is an example of a real life problem that is a quadratic which only has one real answer (discriminant=0)

drifting swift
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are you asking this out of your own curiosity, or were you assigned this as a homework problem?

vocal nymph
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ive been doing them but i dont understand when its useful in rl

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like my homework is doing just number problems

drifting swift
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okay, so you're asking this out of your own curiosity.

vocal nymph
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yes

drifting swift
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let's see

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there are many ways to make such a problem

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You have 12 meters of fencing and wish to make a rectangular enclosure of area 9 m^2. What should its dimensions be?
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i believe this will fit the bill

vocal nymph
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wait let me try

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also i know this may be a bit harder to answer but when would a discriminant of <0 be useful, i asked this before but the examples were too complicated for me

drifting swift
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..."when would a discriminant less than zero be useful" is a bit of a weird question

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it's like asking "when would the letters Q through Z be useful"

vocal nymph
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i mean what is a rl problem that could use a quadratic which has a parabola that doesnt cross the x-axis

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idk its my previous question but for imaginary numbers cuz all the examples i can find are always two solutions

drifting swift
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i guess if you were to change the 9 m^2 in my problem to something like 10 m^2 you would find that the quadratic you end up with has a negative discriminant

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from which you could conclude that the problem would be impossible

vocal nymph
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wait i just found something but i dont completely understand it

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its about bungee jumping

drifting swift
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oh, you have a problem you'd like to share?

vocal nymph
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yes but i dont understand it, if u could maybe help

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i dont have to answer it btw, its just a random website

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wait no

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what is 9.2

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im confused

drifting swift
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9.2 is 9.2

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it's just a number

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it has some physical significance, but it's mostly irrelevant to solving this problem

vocal nymph
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lol i dont get what the problem exactly is, is it saying that a quadratic can be used to find how long the rope should be?

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mannnnn

drifting swift
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no

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the problem says,

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we have control over how high the jumpers start from

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(i.e. the value of k)

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and we also don't want jumpers to hit the ground

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because we're not maniacs and we don't want a pile of corpses on the ground right below our jumping platform

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do you understand this? @vocal nymph

vocal nymph
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yes but is there anything to solve?

drifting swift
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we as in the company that makes the bungee jump

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we want to know how high to build our platform

vocal nymph
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ok so the quadratic helps the company find how high the platform needs to be right?

drifting swift
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you could say it like that i guess...

vocal nymph
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but how would u write it as a question

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like a quadratic to be solved

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like ax^2+bx+c

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but what are the a, b and c

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0/y= is the height of the platform

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the rest im not so sure

drifting swift
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no

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we aren't solving a quadratic equation

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we are on a higher level of abstraction here

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we have the quadratic equation x^2 - 9.2x + k = 0, and we want to ensure it doesn't have any roots

vocal nymph
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oh so basically this situation mainly focuses on the discriminant, the company is just making sure the equation has no roots?

drifting swift
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....you could say that

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Two overlapping circles (with 2 intersection points), like in the diagram, with a know radius r1, r2 each (if it cant be solved for independent radii, same radius is fine). The centers of each circle lie on a line of length d. Perpendicular to this line is the line that joins the intersection points, of length a. What would be a way to calculate a as a function of d, r1, and r2; and if it isnt trivial, d as a function of a, r1, and r2 as well.

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Ive tried to play with trigonometry and it led me nowhere, theres something im missing

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heron's is what i was missing

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Hello, I’m not very good at math, and I can't find calculator that work properly with big numbers. I just have a basic question. If we have 1 billion dollars, and 4.46 million people, how much money would each person get.

silver trench
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,w 1000000000 / 4460000

silver trench
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assuming u meant each person gets the same amount ^

neon iron
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Yes I did, thank you!

silver trench
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np happy to help!

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next helm
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why is the number of functions from $[n] \to [n]$ equal to $n^n$ and not $n!?$

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long stirrup
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what does [] mean

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anyway n! is for bijective functions

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if every output must be achieveble

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if a function always gives 0 it's also considered to have full range

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i guess

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next helm
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ohh im dumb its n^n

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im actually mental

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long stirrup
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ok

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but yeah im dumb, its n^n

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i was thinking it was bijective for some reason

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warm hinge
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Can anybody explain the stars and bars theorem to me?

long stirrup
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there are 2

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there's one where you have slots for "fences"

            • ← 6 stars
              to separate into 3 non empty groups choose 2 positions to fill out of 5
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and there's one where you can have empty groups, so you choose from sum of 6+2

warm hinge
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i need the one with empty groups

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i don't really get the concept of it tho

long stirrup
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you have 6+2 symbols, you choose which of them is a bar

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it covers every order

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|| * * * * * *
empty, empty, 6

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  • | * * * * * |
    1, 5, empty
warm hinge
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why am i choosing from the sum of 6 + 2 tho?

long stirrup
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you don't think of slots to fill, it doesn;t make sense anymore if you can put several bars together

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but you can still enumerate every permutation

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of the whole thing

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you always have 2+6 things at the end arranged in some order

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you could do (2+6)! / (2!) / (6!)

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it's equivalent to (2+6)c2

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distinct permutation of 2 sorts of things = choose which things are the second sort

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it's some visual thing

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oh wow you can't be pinged

warm hinge
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hmm

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i'm really not getting how it's a valid concept tbh...

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hold on

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let's say we have k indistinguishable particles that can be distributed among n cells, and each cell can hold any number of particles, how can i really show that the number of possibilities to distribute those particles is n+k-1 choose k

long stirrup
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right

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i don't know

warm hinge
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shouldnt it be the concept of stars and bars?

long stirrup
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you do the stars thing and it's absolutely convincing

warm hinge
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with stars?

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and bars

long stirrup
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yes

warm hinge
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is that even valid

long stirrup
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if the cells are distinguishable

warm hinge
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isn't stars and bars theorem supposed to be about indistinguishable stars and bars?

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which is why you remove the permutations

long stirrup
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only stars are indistinguishable

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the cells are enumerated, the first one is the one that goes first

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|| * * * is not the same as | * * * |

warm hinge
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how tho

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we still have 3 cells

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and 3 particles

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and if you say so, then |*|** would be the same as | * * * |

long stirrup
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you can see which cell has the stars

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bars are indistinguishble

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cells are not bars they emerge from the thing

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you gotta see the cells in the picture

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contained between bars

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it sounds like you skip the imagination part and it all becomes indecipherable

warm hinge
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wouldn’t it be n+k-1 choose n-1

long stirrup
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ok

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my bad

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yes i thought n particles k cells

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I understand the concepts involved and everything, I'm just struggling to come up with an example that does this. Any good places to start? This is homework so i can't have people just give me answers, thanks 🙂

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hollow swift
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Currently trying to do something with the indicator function chi

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Because it can be approximated with polynomials and such

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But not really getting anywhere

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Im thinking since they are supposed to be differentiable everywhere on R that it must be some kind of well behaved rational function with n as an exponent, uniformly converging to a continuous function with a discontinuous derivative?

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I found an example of a differentiable function with a discontinuous derivative online to base my work on, right now i'm working with the function $g(x) = \begin{cases} x^2\sin(\frac{1}{x}) & x \neq 0 \ 0 & x=0 \end{cases}$

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t see where it takes me

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hollow swift
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one that has all three

last quarry
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You can't have all three at once

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if $f'$ converges uniformly and $f$ converges for atleast one point, then $f$ also converges uniformly and $ \lim (f'_n) = (\lim f_n)'$

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hollow swift
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That's if the interval they are defined on is bounded

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f_n is guarenteed to converge pointwise though

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I took the problem to mean the domain is R

last quarry
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ok say what you are saying is right. then for a function in R to R has all those properties. now you can take any bounded interval [a, b] and look at the restriction of the function. since now the theorem must hold, it contradicts that the function has those properties.

hollow swift
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Posting this from my professors notes so that we are on the same page

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I think there is a fault in that logic somewhere because why would it specify this statement at the end

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clearly the contrapositive means if it isnt uniform then it has to be an unbounded interval, which is what im working with (-infty, infty)

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maybe like the lim at infinity doesnt converge correctly or something

last quarry
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oh ok I think I get your point, the fault in my argument was that the convergence could be uniform for any bdd interval even though it's not uniform for entire R

hollow swift
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Yeah

last quarry
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it's a local property, one example is local integrability, the function 1/x in (0, infty) is locally integrable (means interable in every compact subset) but not globally integrable

hollow swift
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Ah I see

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So I need to consider the convergence as x goes to infinity?

last quarry
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some thing similar phenomenon is at play probably

hollow swift
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Maybe something based on $\sqrt(x)$ would work

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last quarry
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what about log(x)

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say $f'_n = \frac{1}{x+1/n}$ and $f_n = log(x+1/n)$

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Ryuzaki

last quarry
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f'_n converges to 1/x and f_n to log(x)

hollow swift
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And log x is unbounded

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But 1/x is

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I see

last quarry
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but |log(x+1/n)-log(x)| = log(1+1/(nx)| \to 1 not 0

hollow swift
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Interesting

last quarry
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interval is (0, infty) not [0, infty)

hollow swift
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Mmm yeah

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Do you think this would qualify since the problem says differentiable on R

last quarry
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it may not work, check it and try to modify it to something that actually works

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hollow swift
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Oh yeah

last quarry
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I think this one works but check

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$f_n = log(x)+log(1+\frac{x}{n})$ and we have $f'_n = \frac{1}{x} + \frac{1}{n+x}$. in the interval $[1, \infty)$. you can show with $M_n$ test that $f'_n$ converges uniformly to $\frac{1}{x}$ and $f_n$ converges to $log(x)$. Now $|log(x)+log(1+\frac{x}{n}-log(x)| = log(1+\frac{x}{n})$ since x is unbounded you take $x=n$ and show that the abs dist never goes to zero as sup is atleast log(2). So the convergence is not uniform but it is PW.

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@hollow swift

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note tho that it is uniform in any compact interval showing that it's an local property. That's where I messed up

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for R to [1, infty) you can the simple modification u=1+|x|^2

hollow swift
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Ah this sounds good

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Before looking here i was trying to work it with just using what we talked about before, and i came so close to the solution that you just suggested

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So i feel good about the amount of effort put into this on my part lol

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I'm testing this further right now

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@last quarry a problem with your example might be that if you make n ridiculously large it begins to tend towards -infinity

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at least when i replace x for 1+x^2

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nvm give me more time lmao

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OK yeah this works. Thank you for all your help! catKing

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fluid needle
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I got to f(x) = 4 (x^2) (x-2)^3 + (x-2)^4 (2x)

sour bloom
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what's this, expand? plot? find the derivative?

fluid needle
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Sorry forgot to mention, find the derivitive

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inner oracle
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You took the derivative in first step itself then why is left side not f'

fluid needle
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oh yeah i forget my notation a lot

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it went down hill in the simplifying then

inner oracle
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And x²+2x(x-2) = 3x²-4x = x(3x-4)

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Plus it's not x²+2x(x-2)

fluid needle
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where does the x^2 on the left go when i simplify

inner oracle
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4 (x²)(x-2)³ + 2x(x-2)⁴ = 2(x-2)³ (2x²+x(x-2))

fluid needle
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oh you took a 2 out from the coefficients?

inner oracle
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Yes idk how you misplaced it

fluid needle
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yeah i can see that now

inner oracle
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Finally you should get 2x(x-2)³(3x-2)

fluid needle
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ok i get it

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thank you very much

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been looking at this ting for a while

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What's t there??

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A natural number

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Since a is a natural number and it is a fourth power .. I took it it to be t^4

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But a is fifth power. a⁵

fervent coyote
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a is the form of a fourth power (since it's a natural number) . When you raise it to power 5, it becomes (t^4) ^5=t^20. So does b, it becomes (t^5) ^4= t^20

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Side note: Actually, Even if "a" weren't a natural number i can take it to be t^4 for some t, simply because it is positive.

runic sail
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No.

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We can write as the fourth power of some real number

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In this case however it is a natural number

runic sail
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Yes

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Proof for why that real number is natural in this case

runic sail
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If we consider t⁴=a , then how is it sure then that same t⁵ will make b??

fervent coyote
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Using that condition a^5= b^4

fervent coyote
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Now what should i do?

fervent coyote
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Take the fourth root

runic sail
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I took fourth root of a=t there

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What to do of b now??

fervent coyote
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No, i mean take fourth root of b^4... Similarly on the other side of the equality

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You end up with b=t^5

runic sail
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How???

fervent coyote
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(b^4)^(1/4)= (t^20)^(1/4) .... b = t^(20/4) = t^5...I suggest you clear up your basics

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n-th root of x is simply $x^{\frac{1}{n}}$

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Schrödinger's cat

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So the first one would be $x^{25×\frac{1}{5}}$

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Schrödinger's cat

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which is $x^5$

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I have tried a few things but I am unsure

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expand the numerator

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Also I have a few questions, does 6sqrt(x) = 6 + x^1/2 or 6x^1/2

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second one

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Ok thanks

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Why is there no loss of generality here?

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I know algebraically why it is WLOG

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Because you can assume any number as he just use 100 as example to help intuition. And don't even uses it on the calculations

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hey tim

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you could replace that with any number that leaves you without fractions of students

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Yeah I know

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oh

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I solved it with arbitrary T

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Something to do with percentages right?

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you could just like

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replace the number with percent

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although maybe the statement let there be 100% students isnt super intuitive

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say there are 50 students

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maybe you get that too

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Oh right

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i mean

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look at the numbers they have in the fractions

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Whatever it is you can factor it out of top and bottom

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say it was 200 instead of 100

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and you get multiplied by 1

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then youd have

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yea

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exactly

languid helm
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Why do percents work this way

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what is this property called

vernal vale
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i mean percents work this way since theyre unitless

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but you may be thinking of normalized

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like instead of saying colorado has X covid cases and new york has Y

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youd probably say per 100k residents or something

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alternatively unitless things are nice

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but it wouldnt really matter here

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like you did it generally right

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oh yeha that's it

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normalized

vernal vale
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so you have a bunch of stuff like K = 0.3*T

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that's a good word

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they all come from T

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Right right

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or whatever general universal collection you have

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they all scale with T

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that dependency just tracks though

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thanks janm

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Will you graduate soon @vernal vale

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just wondering

vernal vale
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nope

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im doin grad

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In maths?

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damn that's really cool dude

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😄

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its gonna be murder

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When does it start

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Still @ colorado mines?

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next semester ill start taking grad classes

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first up

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complex analysis

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ye

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Oh wow

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That must be exciting

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I want to take complex analysis

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Maybe you can teach me some cool stuff if you ever have free time

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😄

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if is a good word

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Will you become a teacher?

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idk hopefully not since its not super great paying

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but maybe

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i feel like i could be good at it

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but i might have a lot of loans

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Yeha for sure

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I will leave tha tmoneystuff to you man

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good luck to you

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I need help with this problem, I made the function f(x)=((-1(x-5)(x+4))/(5/3)(x+3)(x-4)) I know I need to reduce it but when I try I get
((-3(x-5)(x+4))/(5(x+3)(x-4))) Idk where I am incorrect

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For my Y asymptote I thought thats what the -1 was in f(x)=((-1(x-5)(x+4))/(5/3)(x+3)(x-4))

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$f(x)=\frac{-(x-5)(x+4)}{\frac53(x+3)(x-3)}$

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a disappointing son

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the numerator and denominator share the same power, so to get your horizontal asymptote, what do you do?

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(note that none of your x terms have coefficients)

swift zephyr
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I got a question on what function displayed I thought it would be $f(x)=\frac{-(x-5)(x+4)}{\frac53(x+3)(x-4)}$

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Weld🪒

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?

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i'm not sure what you mean

swift zephyr
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you put +3, -3, And I have +3 ,-4 because i thought it was x asymptote of x-3 and x4

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oh, that was just a typo

swift zephyr
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Idk what todo since they have the same power

leaden tusk
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did you not learn about horizontal asymptotes?

swift zephyr
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Im new to doing them

leaden tusk
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for a function $f(x)=\frac{ax+c}{bx+d}$, the horizontal asymptote(s) are equal to $\frac{a}{b}$

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a disappointing son

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and this goes for any polynomial with the same highest order power

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seeing as the highest power will, at an infinitely high x value, take control of the function

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none of the other terms will matter

swift zephyr
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Aint that same for finding the y cord of a hole?

leaden tusk
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so it will approach a value $\frac{ax}{bx}$, which is just $\frac{a}{b}$

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a disappointing son

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uhh

swift zephyr
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not in this problem but i did that in a different one

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for the comment I made

leaden tusk
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i'm again not quite sure what you mean

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if you want to find the y coordinate of a hole, just find the x coordinate where the hole occurs and plug that into the original function

swift zephyr
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So for this problem you said a/b how would I go about that

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I have -1 and 5/3

leaden tusk
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since all your x terms have coefficients of 1, expanding it out would also result in coefficients of 1, so yes, a is -1 and b is 5/3

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this is just to tell you why your equation is wrong by the way lol

swift zephyr
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ok

leaden tusk
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your equation would have a horizontal asymptote at $\frac{a}{b}$, where $a=-1, b=\frac53$

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a disappointing son

leaden tusk
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which is -3/5

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so your equation gives a HA at y=-3/5

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and your question wants one at y=-1

swift zephyr
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where do I Plug in my Y intercept into my equation then? Because I dont want it to interfear with the -1 HA

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your equation doesn't have a HA at -1

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that's your issue

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it also doesn't have a y int of -5/3 because of that issue

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you want your HA at y=1, therefore $\frac{a}{b}=-1$

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a disappointing son

leaden tusk
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which means $a=\pm b$

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a disappointing son

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y-intercept is marked with a point located at (0,−5/3). ?

leaden tusk
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yes, but your current equation doesn't have a y int at -5/3

swift zephyr
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I just dont know where to put -5/3 into my equation

leaden tusk
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just putting the number into the equation will not make it a y intercept

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don't think about the intercept quite yet though

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fix your asymptote problem

swift zephyr
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Well to fix my asymptoe problem I just take out the 5/3

leaden tusk
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right

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so now you have a new equation $f(x)=\frac{-(x-5)(x+4)}{(x+3)(x-4)}$

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a disappointing son

swift zephyr
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yes

leaden tusk
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what happens when you find your y intercept of that?

swift zephyr
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So I just plug in -5/3?

leaden tusk
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no

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what is true about the x value when you have a y intercept?

swift zephyr
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x is 0

leaden tusk
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exactly

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so plug in x=0, that will tell you your y intercept

swift zephyr
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equals -5/3

leaden tusk
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exactly

swift zephyr
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and that would be my formula?

leaden tusk
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well... $f(x)=\frac{-(x-5)(x+4)}{(x+3)(x-4)}$ has a y intercept of (0, -5/3), a horizontal asymptote at y=-1, vertical asymptotes as x=-3 and x=-4, and x intercepts at (5,0) and (-4,0)

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a disappointing son

leaden tusk
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and that seems to meet your criteria

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Thank you

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no

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vertical asymptote at x = 4

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:P

leaden tusk
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that's what i meant lol

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i don't proofread :(

swift zephyr
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When I try and graph this one the function I made the opposite of what I want? Do Do i change that?

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I made f(x)= (x-0)/((x+6)(x-5))

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When I graph it looks similar but is mirrored.

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sup weld

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what are you working on

swift zephyr
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nothing much just trying to see where I messed up on this function

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long time no see

vernal vale
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is the one right up there ^

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the tan lookin one

swift zephyr
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yes

vernal vale
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,w graph -x/((x+6)(x-5)) from -10 to 10

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illustrative

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how come it was the other way a second ago

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it was positive

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i made it negative

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flips it about the x axis

swift zephyr
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so if its mirrored the wrong way just put a negative in front?

vernal vale
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well it depends on which way its mirrored

swift zephyr
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well thank you for helping me out like always

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its not done yet :p

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heres the two important reflections

swift zephyr
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what the heck is that

vernal vale
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its the reflections

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have you use desmos before?

swift zephyr
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yes

vernal vale
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-f(x) reflects over the x axis

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f(-x) reflects across the y axis

swift zephyr
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oh i see what your saying

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thats really helpful !!

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you may be curious what line -f(-x) reflects across catThink

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exercise for the reader

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so your general shape matches

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but youre still not hitting that point, i think?

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,w -.5/( (.5+6)(.5-5))

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o, backwards

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,calc 6/( (6+6)(6-5))

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Result:

0.5
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so -f(-x) is backwards?

vernal vale
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not backwards

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its a reflection

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you dont need it for this problem but if youre curious

swift zephyr
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it just does x and y then?

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well it takes something to the other side of the x axis

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then to the other side of the y axis

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which is a reflection about a line

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but the line isnt either axis

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Thank you

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so in the problem you posted

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its still not going through that point

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its off by about

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or so

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the -x/((x+6)(x-5)) was good for the problem posted

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or for the online math it was gucci

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lol

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hmm maybe its not about a line

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i have to be careful about helping late at night

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idk you help me finish my hw so im thankfull, and i learned some new things

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$(46/148)/(46/148+51/152∙152/300)

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Sorry I'll change that.

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((46/148)/(46/148+51/152∙152/300))

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I know that this is supposed to simplify down to 46/97 to prove a Bayes application.

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It was originally:

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MrMadium

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Can I say 3x is the coefficient of y

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if you're considering 3xy as a polynomial in y, then sure

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got it thank you so much ann

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Hello! I need help with these problems.. If you can help me solve for the answer instead of giving me the actual answer, that would be nice ^_^//

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what question are you stuck on, and what have you tried so far?

hazy crown
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all of them- and i don't really know how to solve for them either,,

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well, in the first question you really dont need to solve for x

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my bad those arent points

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are you familiar with the quadratic formula?

hazy crown
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yes

spare idol
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I need some help

gusty estuary
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Zeroes occour when the graph intersects the x axis, aka. When we let y=0

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that you can do is let y=0 in all of those equations, and then plug in -4 and 5 for x too see if the right and left side are equal to eachother

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If they are, then the zeros -4 and 5 match for that equation

hazy crown
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so make y=0 and plug x= -4 & 5?

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yes

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@gusty estuary (x-a)(x-b) was more efficient no?

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okay, same goes for question 12?

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On question 12 i think its actually more efficient if you use the quadratic formiula on the equation given

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alright,, what about question 13?

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Its shifted 5 units up and 2 units to the right

hazy crown
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wha-

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5 units up means it now will intersect the y axis at y=5

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Thus you get a constant term +5

hazy crown
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ohh

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2 units to the right means we just substitute x with x-2 (its - when its to the right, and + when its to the left)

hazy crown
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last, question 14

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That the rectangular field can be enclosed by 80m of fencing basically means its perimeter must be =80

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We can write the perimeter of a rectangle as 2L+2W

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Then you can set 2L+2W=80, and then see which of the numbers in A-D match with the equation

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oh i thought it was L×W at first but i got 3 digit numbers ajvdgd

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anyways, thanks for helping! 17 & 18 is all good

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P and Q are two points 50 km apart, with Q due east of P. A third town R, to the north of the line joining P and Q, is 70 km from P and 30 km from Q. Find the bearing of R from Q and P.

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i would advise u drawing it

keen fulcrum
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i need help findingr from q

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yeah i did

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and i used cosine rule

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and got an angle but the angle i got was 120

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which is wrong

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so idk

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u sure u put the right numbers?

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yup

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try again

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cause i got a different answer

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cosC = ((30)^2+(50)^2-(70))^2)/2(30)(50)

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and then cosC = -1/2

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C = cos inverse -1/2

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= 120

worthy lake
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u matched the wrong sides

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to the angles

keen fulcrum
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wdym

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read carefully

keen fulcrum
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is it not meant to be -(70)^2

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cos the number in c should be opposite the angle

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which is 70

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the numbers are right

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what was your answer

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cos i'm trying to find angle Q

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for the bearing of r from q

worthy lake
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so what did i input wrong?

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so 50^2=70^2+30^2-2(30)(70)cos R

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but you're mean to find angle

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and wouldn't the c be 70

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instead of 50

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no

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u use the opposite side to the angle

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in cos rule

keen fulcrum
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and the opposite side of q

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is 70

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u need to find r and q

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cause the question says find r from p and q

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or u could find pand q

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i've already found from p

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i'm looking for from q

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which is why c would be 70

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yep

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so 120 is the angle

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so just 120-90

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=30

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right

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question 12

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is this diagram correct

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if it is would the distance be 1694

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@keen fulcrum "T"???

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what does that mean

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True north

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Bearings

hazy pumice
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ok, and it's understood that the angle is clockwise under this standard?

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that part at least feels familiar

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your 280 degree T measure would be wrong then, since the angle is measured from "true north", wouldn't it?

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because you start from north so 0 degrees then make a 280 degree rotation

hazy pumice
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nothing is quite to-scale, obviously

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you can get the missing distance using LoC

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$c = \sqrt{900^2 + 1600^2 - 2\cdot 900 \cdot 1600 \cdot \cos{40}}$

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Disorganized

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oh wait i realised what i did wrong

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how do you know that the agnle is 50

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in there

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I measured each angle off "true north"

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and used opposite interior angles to get 50 off west

keen fulcrum
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right cos the axis' are parallel

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ah yeah that works

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now, if you do 360 - 280, you have 80 leftover...which is 10 degrees off west

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so 50 - 10 = 40

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that is cos40

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I just like radians 🙂

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ah ok

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got it?

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yup

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ty

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@keen fulcrum do you have the second part ok?

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can you help me with that too

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ok. so you filled in the missing side, right?

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yup

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1079

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ok, so what ideas do you have on how to find the bearing from the airport at that last position?

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what do we need

keen fulcrum
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the angle between 900 and 1079

hazy pumice
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yes

keen fulcrum
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so cosine rule again

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call that alpha or whatever

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you could

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I used LoS

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?

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what's that

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Law of Sines

keen fulcrum
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oh sine law

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yeah i'll probably do that

hazy pumice
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if we call the top angle alpha

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and then you can use the 50

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$\frac{\sin{\alpha}}{1600} = \frac{\sin{40}}{1078.791919}$

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Disorganized

hazy pumice
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no, the angle is 40, remember

keen fulcrum
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ah right

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mb

hazy pumice
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multiply both sides by 1600 and arcsine it

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then add that to the original bearing

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$\alpha = \arcsin{\frac{1600\cdot\sin{40}}{1078.791919}}$

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Disorganized

keen fulcrum
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72.39

hazy pumice
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ok, add that to the original bearing

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because alpha subtends it

keen fulcrum
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then add that to 140?

hazy pumice
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yes ^

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I'm a little surprised that angle is so narrow though

keen fulcrum
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the answer is 32

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huh

hazy pumice
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wat

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the answer sheet definitely wrong

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ignore that

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ty for the questions

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🤔

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np

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Hey, easy question but i got some logic trouble. What is diffrent between domain of main function and domain of her alternative from?
Easy example ((x(x^2-25)/(x+5))):
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I am confusion

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I don't get where the 7 in -6x^7 came from.

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@stone chasm they basically did exponent laws on all the x exponents except for the 2 in the denominator

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so that would just leave us with (-3x^2)/(x^-2) * 2x^3 = -3x^4 * 2x^3 = -6x^7

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also this is nowhere near fully simplified lol

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Wait ill send the full simplified thing.

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But I still don't get what you mean though blobsweat2

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they did it a weird way

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What would the answer be for this question? I need help verifying. Thank You.

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wheat laurel
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and also, the fourth visible term...

spring storm
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Its a notation

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oh ok

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nCr

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yeah ik

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i just thought c is a constant

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@spring storm also

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the fourth visible term

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is it supposed to be 21C15?

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@spring storm you here?

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Yeah

spring storm
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we have
$$nCr = \frac{n!}{r!(n-r)!}$$

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Adavocowana

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so nCr = nC(n-r)

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hope that helps @spring storm ;)

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Can someone go over this with me? I don't want the answer, I wanna know where I'm making a mistake

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I know it's a tedious problem, but if anyone can help I will really appreciate it

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Bit confused on part a)

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$\abs{z-(2+i)} = \abs{(x-2) + (y-1)i} = 4$

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feather

coral knoll
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$\Rightarrow {(x-2)}^2 + {(y-1)}^2 = 16$

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feather

coral knoll
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That's a circle centered at (2, 1)? Which I guess on the complex plane is 2+i

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Is that it

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Hi there, I am currently stuck trying to solve a task on my task sheet / preparation for my next university lesson (first semester of applied computer science (bachelor)):
My task is to find the rule/law or however it is called in English (I am german, so sorry if I sometimes use the wrong vocabulary) for the following sequence:
1; 1; 7/5; 15/7; 31/9; ...

By looking at this sequence I can easily see that after 7/5 every following number has a denominator which is +2 compared to the previous number's denominator and a numerator which is *2 + 1 of the previous number's numerator, but I have no idea how I could "access" just the nominator or the denominator of the previous number so I don't know what to do.

Here is an example solution for a different sequence:
Sequence: 0.2; 0.04; 0.08; ...
Solution: 1/(5^n)

I think that I need to use a recursive rule/law/whatever to solve this task because I do not see how this can be solved without using the previous number in the sequence to calculate the next one, but I could be wrong about this

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