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simple pine
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why is that segment m1 and -m2? since the differences of x from the two points is one then the slope is just the difference of y?

spring prism
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yes

simple pine
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floral nexus
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we can prove that sqrt(2) is not rational through a proof by contradiction. I have attached a popular proof for this below.

floral nexus
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what stops someone from proving that the sqrt(4) is irrational through this proof as well?

tropic oxide
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have you tried reproducing the same proof for sqrt(4) and carefully examining whether or not the steps are still true?

floral nexus
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I have

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It seems to work exactly the same as proving that sqrt(5) is irrational though

tropic oxide
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can you show your sqrt(4) proof?

floral nexus
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yup i gotchu

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sorry it took so long, i just rewrote it a bit neater

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@tropic oxide here it is

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same machinery as the other proof

tropic oxide
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do you stand by this claim?

floral nexus
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ahhh i see

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i get it i get it that makes sense

floral nexus
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i actually proved this statement for where its mod 2 and where its mod 5, and i assumed it worked for any integer

tropic oxide
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it does not

floral nexus
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im guessing then it only works for primes?

tropic oxide
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wouldnt be so hasty as to say it ONLY works for primes

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it works for all squarefree integers, to the best of my recollection?

sage forge
floral nexus
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unironically im a CS major so im going into software engineering

sage forge
floral nexus
# tropic oxide

@tropic oxide do you know what the proof for this is by any chance? so far I only know that to prove this for some integer n, where its p^2 congruent to 0 mod (n), is through casework

tropic oxide
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the proof for what

floral nexus
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my bad let me rephrase

floral nexus
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for this image, you mentioned as per what you remember, it is true for squarefree integers

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i want to see that proof, but don't know what to search up for it

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do you have any idea what keywords i can use or the name of that proof

tropic oxide
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chinese remainder theorem comes to mind

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it's a bit of a nuke but it should work

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or you could nuke it with FTA instead

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factorization bullshit

floral nexus
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ok that makes sense

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one last thing

tropic oxide
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yes?

floral nexus
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so i learned this proof, but was wondering if there is a way to do this without casework

tropic oxide
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"nuke it with FTA" is the first thing that comes to mind

floral nexus
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should i still look in the direction of the chinese remainder theorem or FTA, or is there an easier way

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ahh ok gotcha

tropic oxide
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i mean lik

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like*

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you could try to pull some more abstract algebra-flavored nonsense

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||like proving that Z/pZ is a field for p prime and thus has no nilpotents||

floral nexus
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im not even gonna ask what that means

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but thank you i shall look at FTA

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thank you sm this really helped

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i shall close the channel ig

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teal lake
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teal lake
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My instructor went from dy/dt = (150 - y)/200 to dy/(150-y) = dt/200

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How is that possible

thorny kite
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This is what's called "separation of variables"

teal lake
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Shouldn't it be (150-y)/dy and 200/dt?

thorny kite
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He left out 2 steps:

teal lake
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Multiply both sides by 200, now you have 200dy/dt = 150 - y, then divide both sides by dy which gives you 200/dt = (150-y)/dy

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@thorny kite

thorny kite
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Multiply both sides by "dt" and divide both sides by (150-y)

teal lake
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I see that makes sense, what's wrong with my method?

thorny kite
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Nothing wrong, you can flip both sides

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And preserve equality

teal lake
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Ah I see, I guess his method makes it significantly easier to integrate though right?

thorny kite
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It's just that we don't know how to integrate (1/dt)

teal lake
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Makes sense, thanks

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scenic frost
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Guys

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scenic frost
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Can I get some help

green belfry
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with?

scenic frost
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Rational numbers

green belfry
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what about them

scenic frost
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Man, I'm really confused about division

maiden citrus
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what about division confuses you

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Try to be specific with your questions

shut reef
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how old are you

scenic frost
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I'm 14

green belfry
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stranger danger

green belfry
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or are u having a existential crisis regarding division

scenic frost
shut reef
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you confused with like 3/4?

scenic frost
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-1/2 ÷ 3/4 = -2/3

shut reef
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cool

green belfry
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so what do u find confusing

scenic frost
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I don't know how to create a right set of solution

shut reef
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thats just $\frac{-1}{2}\cdot\frac{4}{3}$?

scenic frost
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Shortly I'm confused about the process to get the answer.

balmy apex
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now I'm scared

shut reef
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Good

balmy apex
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$a \div b = a \cdot \frac{1}{b}$

shut reef
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smh

wraith daggerBOT
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illuminator3

balmy apex
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$\therefore \frac{a}{b} \div \frac{c}{d} = \frac{a}{b} \cdot \frac{d}{c} = \frac{a \cdot d}{b \cdot c}$

wraith daggerBOT
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illuminator3

scenic frost
balmy apex
balmy apex
scenic frost
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Step by step

shut reef
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why

balmy apex
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step by step

scenic frost
shut reef
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les say we got $\frac{3}{5}\div \frac{4}{7}$

wraith daggerBOT
scenic frost
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I need the exact process so I can see and learn how to do the process

shut reef
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we do shit and its $\frac{3}{5}\cdot \frac{7}{4}$

wraith daggerBOT
scenic frost
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Ok

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Then

shut reef
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so $\frac{3\cdot 7}{5\cdot 4}$

wraith daggerBOT
shut reef
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$\frac{21}{20}$

wraith daggerBOT
scenic frost
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Thanks

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.,..

shut reef
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Now you can pay me

scenic frost
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By what

balmy apex
shut reef
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not really

balmy apex
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please don't say what I think you're gonna say

shut reef
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feet pics?

balmy apex
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you have a problem

shut reef
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Lol

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I don't wabt feet pics

scenic frost
shut reef
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lmao

scenic frost
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?

shut reef
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yes

balmy apex
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@shut reef what's your ssn

scenic frost
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Where and when should we use cross multiplication

balmy apex
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how did we go from basic algebra to linear algebra

shut reef
shut reef
balmy apex
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@scenic frost what kind of cross multiplication do you mean

scenic frost
shut reef
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so what we did here?

balmy apex
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wdym with cross multiplication there

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never heard of it

shut reef
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ig he means that thing we did

scenic frost
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its where we multiply the numerator of the first fraction with the denominator of the second fraction and vice-versa

balmy apex
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didn't know that has a name

scenic frost
shut reef
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when we dividing fractions by fractions

scenic frost
cedar kilnBOT
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ancient spire
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am clueless other than the fact i know I need to work backwards

Thanks!

tidal bone
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you know you must have a root of x=-4 in the denominator

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for that vertical asymptote

ancient spire
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correct

tidal bone
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so you get (x+4) there, yeah?

ancient spire
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yes

tidal bone
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and you know that when x=0

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you should have y=-2

ancient spire
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yes

tidal bone
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so we now know

wraith daggerBOT
ancient spire
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yes

tidal bone
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plug in zero for x

wraith daggerBOT
tidal bone
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multiply by -4c on both sides

wraith daggerBOT
tidal bone
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now you get

wraith daggerBOT
ancient spire
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correctr

tidal bone
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now your job is to solve for a and c

ancient spire
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okok thank you

tidal bone
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the horizontal asymptote tells you how to do this

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you just want a/c=3

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or a=3c

wraith daggerBOT
tidal bone
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because the cs cancel out

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🙂

ancient spire
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thank you so much my friend

tidal bone
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np

ancient spire
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fast pollen
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@wanton sail sorry, the channel got closed

fast pollen
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the only issue with the third term going to x^n is that you would have to subvtract 1

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and you cant add 1 to n

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because it cant go forward only backward

wanton sail
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what do you mean?

fast pollen
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lemme send a pic

wanton sail
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you can reindex n=0 to start at n=1

fast pollen
wanton sail
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that looks good so far!

fast pollen
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but i am confused about the third term though

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oh i would add it not sub

wanton sail
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change it from starting at n=0 to starting at n=1

fast pollen
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i thought you could only turn it back like n = 2 -> n = 1

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but not n = 1 -> n = 2

wanton sail
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nah you can do both

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same exact concept

fast pollen
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oh okay, i was watching a bunch of youtube videos on this topic to get a better understanding

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but maybe it was just for that problem

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now since i have all of them matching, would i try and get the middle 0 to be 1

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or the other two sides to be 0 @wanton sail

cedar kilnBOT
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@fast pollen Has your question been resolved?

wanton sail
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and then you can add all the sums together

fast pollen
wanton sail
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yup

fast pollen
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Okay I will try that thank you

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exotic tendon
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exotic tendon
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rational expression

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i thought we multiply by the lcm

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which the lcm is A right?

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but it isn't A?

shut reef
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It's not a

exotic tendon
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what

shut reef
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it's a/a

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pretty much everything you can do

exotic tendon
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Okay ty

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willow lion
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willow lion
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how do i answer this question while showing my work?

deft forum
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Firstly factorise it

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Do you know how?

willow lion
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idk how to factor the top, but the bottom you find what adds to -1, and multiplies to -6

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right?

deft forum
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Umm i didn't quite get it

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First one you can factorise by the formula

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Do you know $a^2-b^2=(a+b)(a-b)$

wraith daggerBOT
willow lion
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yes

deft forum
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So now we know 16= 4^2

willow lion
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yup

deft forum
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So $x^2-16= x^2-4^2$

wraith daggerBOT
deft forum
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Now can you factorise?

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Using formula above?

willow lion
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isnt it like (x^2+4) (x^2 - 4)

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?

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oh wait

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x+4, and x-4

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isnt it?

deft forum
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Yes

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Last one

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Cool now can we factorise denominator?

willow lion
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yea

deft forum
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Ok do you have any idea how to factorise that?

deft forum
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Yes

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Now can you think of such two numbers?

willow lion
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-3 and 2

deft forum
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Yea

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Now can you factorise it?

willow lion
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(x-3)(x+2)

deft forum
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Cool

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So now we got (x+4)(x-4)/(x-3)(x+2), so for domain we need to find it where the above expression doesn't hold true

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Can you think when it won't give any result?

willow lion
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x doesnt equal -2. 3, 4, or -4

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i think?

deft forum
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Umm why 4,-4?

willow lion
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oh wait we are just speaking about the denomenator right

deft forum
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Yes

willow lion
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cuz the demonenator cant equal 0

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got it

deft forum
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Yes

willow lion
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so xER l x cannot equal to -2, 3

deft forum
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Ok so now have we found out domain right?

willow lion
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yup

deft forum
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Hi

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Sorry for delay

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@willow lion

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Do you know how to find the range?

willow lion
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no worries

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no im not sure

deft forum
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Okay

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So let $\frac{x^2 -16} {x^2 -x-6} = y$

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So we get $x^2 -16 = yx^2 -yx -6y$

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Correct?

willow lion
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just a sec lemme see

wraith daggerBOT
willow lion
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yup

deft forum
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Okay so let's rearrange a bit

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$yx^2 -x^2 -yx +16-6y=0$

wraith daggerBOT
deft forum
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So we get $(y-1)x^2 -yx +16-6y=0$

wraith daggerBOT
deft forum
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Correct?

willow lion
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yea

deft forum
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Now for this to be real in x we need determinant D>=0

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Correct?

willow lion
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yup

deft forum
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So tell me determinant D

willow lion
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isnt it x? like x doesnt equal to -2

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and it doesnt equal to 3

deft forum
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Umm no

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That's domain

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Do you know determinant?

willow lion
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oh sorry i thought u meant domain

deft forum
willow lion
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no we havent learned about determinant

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ohhh discriminant

deft forum
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The above

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Oh shit

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Yeah

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I'm dumb

willow lion
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haha nah dw

shut reef
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I know

willow lion
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so how can i find the discriminant

shut reef
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on what

deft forum
shut reef
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idk

deft forum
willow lion
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yes

deft forum
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So here in $(y-1)x^2 -yx +16-6y=0$can you find a, b, c?

wraith daggerBOT
willow lion
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a is y-1, b is -6, c is 16

deft forum
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Umm not quite right

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b is coefficient of x term

willow lion
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so b is y?

deft forum
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Still close but not quite right

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We have to consider minus sign

willow lion
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so.. -y?

deft forum
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Yes

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And c isn't correct either

willow lion
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uhh

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c is -6?

deft forum
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Umm no

willow lion
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wait ok

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a is y-1

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b is -y

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c isnt 16?

deft forum
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C is remaining part that doesn't have any x term

deft forum
willow lion
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its -6y

deft forum
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Nope

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It's 16-6y

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Get it?

willow lion
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the whole thing huh

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i see

deft forum
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Yeah

willow lion
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cuz neither have x

deft forum
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Yes

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Okay so b^2-4ac>=0

willow lion
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do i plug that into d

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okay

deft forum
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Yes

willow lion
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got it

deft forum
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Cool

willow lion
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now i solve?

deft forum
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Yes now you got inequality in y right?

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Y is indeed our range

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So the solution of inequality is our range

willow lion
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how do i solve this?

deft forum
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Although it's pretty ugly result, I've checked

deft forum
willow lion
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yea

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$(-y)^2 - 4(y-1)(16-6y)$

wraith daggerBOT
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vanessa.v

willow lion
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is greater than or equal to 0

deft forum
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Yes

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Simplify it

willow lion
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so do i distribute?

deft forum
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Yes

willow lion
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ok

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i got

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$-6y^3 + 40y^2 - 40y - 64$

wraith daggerBOT
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vanessa.v

willow lion
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is greater than or equal to 0

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idk if that is right could you double check pls

deft forum
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,w (-y)^2 - 4(y-1)(16-6y) simplify

deft forum
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Hmm doesn't look correct

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Check again

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We shouldn't get cube in the equation

willow lion
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okok

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i just got $25y^2 - 88y +64$

wraith daggerBOT
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vanessa.v

deft forum
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Nice so $25y^2 - 88y +64 \geq 0$

wraith daggerBOT
deft forum
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Now use quadratic formula to get y

willow lion
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what is the formula to use again

deft forum
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(-b +- sqrt(b^2-4ac))/2a

willow lion
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ok 1 sec while i solve

willow lion
deft forum
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We want y right?

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Y is our range

willow lion
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ok

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i keep getting math error

deft forum
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Hmm

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But did you get what we have to do?

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Here's the expected result

willow lion
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solve and then it gives the restrictions on y

deft forum
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Yes correct

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Okay now

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What's next?

willow lion
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ok so what should i write for range exactly? yER l y cannot equal to 1/25(44-4 sqrt21), and 1/25(44+4 sqrt21)

deft forum
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No

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Y belongs to (-infinity, 44-4root(21)/25] U [44 +sqrt(21)/25 , infinity)

willow lion
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ohh

deft forum
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,w (-y)^2 - 4(y-1)(16-6y) >= 0

deft forum
willow lion
deft forum
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Okay

willow lion
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,rotate

wraith daggerBOT
willow lion
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so is that correct?

deft forum
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Yes

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Now what else do you need help with?

willow lion
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okay i got the intercepts, if you could just double check for me

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x=-4

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x=4

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y=8/3

deft forum
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Yup

willow lion
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asymptotes are x=-2, x=3, and y=1

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right?

deft forum
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Yes

willow lion
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perfect

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now idk how to show the interval where the function is decreasing

deft forum
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So we know asymptotes right?

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We need x=-2,3 only

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Wait

willow lion
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wait do i erase the y=1 asymptote? or are you talking about how we find intervals

willow lion
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okok

deft forum
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Wait Lemme think

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I know 1 interval

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Okay are we expected to use calculus here?

willow lion
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nope

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this is practice for grade 12 advanced func

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no calc is learned before or during the course

deft forum
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Hmm well I'm sorry but idk how will I find intervals without calc

willow lion
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no worries you already helped me a lot!

deft forum
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Maybe we can draw graph, but I don't understand how either without calc

willow lion
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dont worry im gonna get help from my friend

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thankyou vm!

deft forum
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Sure no worries 🙂

willow lion
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cedar kilnBOT
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do you know the coefficient of heat transfer?

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do you know the formula?

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can someone explain why lna is there?

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Elonmosqito96

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Elonmosqito96

lost flame
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how did the first line become the second line?

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It's the definition of a real exponent (or at least a very common way of defining it).

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Where e^ is defined separately as the exp function.

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Either way, it's an identity.

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thank you both!

lost flame
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that a^x = e^ln(a)x

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It's a good thing to know, yes. Naively it's straightforward, since blindly using power laws we get $$e^{\ln(a)x} = (e^{\ln(a)})^x=a^x$$

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Morrow

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v

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show the choices smh

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"define the complement of G using set differences"

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how do i do this?

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like i know what a graph complement is

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is G a set?

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or is it a graph

hexed jetty
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it's a grah

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*graph

crimson sedge
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oh okay, I get it. basically if I'm not wrong, a graph compliment is like the same graph but every pair of connected nodes are not connected and vice vers

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yes

crimson sedge
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so basically, a graph is a set of vertices V and a set of edges E = {vi,vj} for vi and vj in V.

hexed jetty
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ok

crimson sedge
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in order to define a compliment, you need to basically define the perfect graph first.

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a perfect graph has all the possible edges.

hexed jetty
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that makes sense

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I'd rather write it and show you, can you join mathematics voice?

hexed jetty
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sure

crimson sedge
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it will be easier to expain

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that's a complete graph, not a perfect graph

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hey guys I was jsut wondering if this is valid

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I got it from a friend comparing some answers

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that's right. du=d(sin y)=cos y dy

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so ∫siny cosy dy = ∫siny d(sin y)=½ sin²y +C

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alright thanks I got the answer

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my way was distributing 1+sin ( cosy) but I only wrote siny cosy and didnt add the cosy infront

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i've tried solving the quadratic after plugging in the initial height, but the answer it says that my answer is wrong

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idk what my mistake is

dawn junco
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well they specifically ask you to solve for when the height = 0

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not height = 8

exotic loom
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i meant to say the velocity

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ik the height must be set to 0

dawn junco
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ah ok

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so you plugged in 1315 ft/sec as v_0 I suppose

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we're gonna have to check your workings then

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yeah

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give me a sec

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i honestly don't know what i'm doing

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could you walk me through it after the quadratic is written?

dawn junco
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you can post what you did anyway

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if you attempted something, you prolly have some idea of what you're doing

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and we can start from there

exotic loom
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the problem is that i tried completing the square and i got a really large number so i stopped there

dawn junco
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well yeah the 1315 doesn't help lol

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what have you got then ?

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ok yeah

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let's just divide everything by -16 (so that we have a 1 in front of the t² it's gonna be easier)

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so we get $\frac{-8}{-16} = t² - \frac{1315}{16}t$

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aPlatypus

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i.e. $\frac{1}{2} = t²-\frac{1315}{16}t$

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aPlatypus

dawn junco
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can you complete the square from that ?

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I mean you'll have fractions

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that's expected

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we just have to suck it up here tbh

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let's say we had this quadratic : t² - 1315t

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can you complete the square on that ?

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well 432306.25 being (1315/2)² I suppose

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are you using a calculator to complete the square or what ?

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at least with fractions you don't get to be weirded out by 7 billion decimals

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aPlatypus

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I mean you know how to divide a fraction by 2

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I hope

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lol

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ok

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please!

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that seems like a test...

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its a practice test

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if its was a real test I would not post it

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sus

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Wait since when did a parabola get asymptotes

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ok lads final question

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i know the answer is 6x but does anyonr have a short way to solve this?

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im supposed to answer this in less then 1 min

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with no calculator

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but i had to do sqrt(x^3)^3 * sqrt(216)^3

livid hound
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prime factorisation

crude maple
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and i not known what is sqrt(216)^3 this would've taken ages

livid hound
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of 6, 9, 4

crude maple
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what do you mean by that?

livid hound
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express each number as a product of primes

crude maple
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english is not my main language, can you give an example for one of those numbers?

livid hound
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6 = 2*3

crude maple
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ty

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how does it make it faster

livid hound
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well what do you get from the 4 and the 9?

crude maple
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sqrt(2)(2)

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and sqrt(3)(sqrt(3)

livid hound
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no square roots

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4 is just 2 * 2
9 is just 3 * 3

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considering that (and basic exponent laws)
$$6 \cdot 4 \cdot 9 = 2 \cdot 3 \cdot 2 \cdot 2 \cdot 3 \cdot 3 = 2^3 \cdot 3^3$$
which is something you should be able to find the cube root of easily

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ℝamonov

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wait let me try again

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Ty

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Say I have a cubic equation

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clear oak
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ax^3 + bx^2 + cx + d

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and I want to factor it

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can't I just find the 1st derivative

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equate it to zero

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and now i know an x coordinate that goes into the cubic

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then equate coefficients?

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I have a really complicated cubic

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and i have no idea how to solve it

crimson sedge
# clear oak ax^3 + bx^2 + cx + d

the only easy way to solve it is to notice a trivial solution like 0, 1, -1, .. then factorize the cubic polynomial by (x-the trivial solution)

clear oak
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i need to solve for x in terms of the variables

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ah not really a simple equation lol, your only solution then is to use cardano's formula

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clear oak
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no idea bruh

gleaming cloud
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Also there might not be a point where the derivative is 0

clear oak
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true

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i just wanna solve this cubic and go to bed

dawn junco
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how in hell did you stumble upon this cubic ?

clear oak
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basically

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i need to find a general form of all w shaped quartics

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then prove that the areas are equal

clear oak
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i need to prove that all w-shaped quartics have the same area ratio

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so i found a general form

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this cubic stems from finding the intersection of f(x)

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with the tangent line

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(the red line

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im solving for this

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right now

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then i have to find all the areas

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in terms of the variables

gleaming cloud
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Maybe it's not necessary to find these points explicitly

clear oak
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well how do i find the integration bounds

gleaming cloud
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If you want to tho, I would suggest assigning (reccuring constants with complicated expressions) to (new constants)

gleaming cloud
clear oak
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idk anything about the bounds yet

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im solving for the x value of the bounds

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i only know points P, Q, R, and S, and the equation of the tangent line to Q

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as well as f(x) (the main function)

gleaming cloud
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Well you know what equation the bounds satisfy

gleaming cloud
clear oak
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i dont see the point of that

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like i can just brute force it

dawn junco
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like someone has to read your paper after prolly

clear oak
clear oak
gleaming cloud
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Also an example

clear oak
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dw about the integrity of the paper

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i just need to solve the cubic

clear oak
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but thanks lol

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eh

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im going to sleep

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thanks guys

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where v=velocity and k is a constant

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fierce python
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how do i simplify this expression

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ive been having troubles while tryna work out integrals in physics

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also kindly ping me while replying

compact junco
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well the left side is just v

crystal raptor
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rhs integral is wrt t not v

compact junco
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the t tho

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yeah

frosty ocean
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oh yess

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sorry

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compact junco
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i think its a differential eq

fierce python
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uh :)

frosty ocean
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can you share the full question?

fierce python
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sure

dawn junco
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I mean you had dv/dt = -kv² at the beginning right, classic friction stuff

fierce python
compact junco
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bruh

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its seperable though

dawn junco
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yeah

compact junco
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why didnt u divide both sides by v^2

fierce python
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i dont know :)

compact junco
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lmaooo

frosty ocean
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ahh

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makes sense

dusty hazel
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$\dv{v}{t} = -kv^2$\
\
$\f{1}{v^2}dv = -k dt$\
$\int_{v_0}^v{\f{1}{v^2}} dv = -k \int_0^t dt$

fierce python
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thats the complete answer?

wraith daggerBOT
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What the hell am I doing here?

fierce python
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cuz thats wht i got as the answer here

frosty ocean
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hmm

dusty hazel
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I never gave you the answer.

fierce python
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oh i see

dusty hazel
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Nor I ever will.

fierce python
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i appreciate that

dusty hazel
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You solve it, if anything doesn't make sense, ask.

fierce python
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yes sire

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ancient spire
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so heres my question and and what ive got so far just now dont know how to put this into a interval chart?

prisma oak
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it is >0 when x²+13x > 0 And (x-5)(x+5) >0
or when x²+13x<0 And (x-5)(x+5) <0

ancient spire
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how would i implement that onto a interval chart though

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prev one i did

golden sundial
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do you know when x^2 - 1 > 0?

ancient spire
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when x = .5?

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nono

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sorry

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1 no?

prisma oak
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and -1

golden sundial
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well when you have an quadratic like ax^2 + bx + c > 0
you would solve the quadratic = 0 and then if a is positive write your answer as x> positive root or x<negative root

ancient spire
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liitle confused

golden sundial
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so for x^2 - 1 > 0
we find the roots
x^2 - 1 = 0
x^2 = 1
x = +-1
so x^2 - 1 > 0 is satisfied for x<-1 or x>1

ancient spire
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so i should have stopped here?

golden sundial
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huh no

golden sundial
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now you gotta find what x satisfies your inequality

ancient spire
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ok... sorry

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where are you seeing the x^2 that your satisfying

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<@&286206848099549185>

prisma oak
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,rotate

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prisma oak
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does it help?

ancient spire
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indeed

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so at this point of our equation we use all four terms for the chart?

prisma oak
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yes because your looking for the sign of your equation

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if you were only looking for zeros you'll just need the numerator

ancient spire
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so explain how you got the top numbers

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i understand where you got them just not how

prisma oak
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we are looking for x + 13= 0

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so it's x = -13

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then we look when is it + or -

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when x<-13 we have x+13<0

ancient spire
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got it

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and how bout the zero sorrry

prisma oak
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same we look when x = 0

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it's just a little simpler

ancient spire
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okok thanks that helped to see it visualy

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appreciate your time

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vestal bear
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f-i?

lyric wolf
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I am trying to find some help solving #4 f, g, h and I

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Yeah

vestal bear
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just do the opposite operations for the parts that you don't want isolated

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so if you want to isolate L for 4f

lyric wolf
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I had dabbled with this but I don’t know

vestal bear
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no

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you can subtract whole terms and bring them to the other side of the equation

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So for the terms that don't contain L

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On the same side of the equation as L

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these terms are 2πr and 2r

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You can subtract them from both sides of the equation to begin isolating L

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then ofc divide 2 from both sides to completely isolate L

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Awesome thank you

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prisma basin
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I don't understand on how to set this proportion up

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like is it 8/4 = 6/10

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or 8/6 = 4/10

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?

manic glade
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The smaller sides would correspond

prisma basin
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oh so like 4/6 = 8/10?

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@manic glade

manic glade
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I think similar means they are proportional, right?

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Yeah, your equation would be correct

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But you need to check if it is equal

prisma basin
manic glade
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If they're not equal, then it means that they aren't similar, right?

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Since all sides would have the same similarity ratio

prisma basin
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yeah

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i just needed to know if my equation is correct

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thx

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quiet hazel
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whats the difference between finding the cdf of a multivariable function?

quiet hazel
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$F(x+y) = P(X +Y \le a) = \int_{-\infty}^{\infty} F_x(a-y)F_ydy$

wraith daggerBOT
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smooth

quiet hazel
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and finding the conditional cdf of a multivariable function?

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$F x|y (a | y) = P(X \le a | Y = y) = \int_{-\infty}^{a} f_x|_y(x|y)dx$

wraith daggerBOT
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smooth

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<@&286206848099549185>

quiet hazel
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also is f denoted as cdf and F denoted as pdf?

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can soemone help me

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@quiet hazel

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<@&286206848099549185>

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<@&286206848099549185>

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aarya please open a new help channel

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this one is for smooth

peak creek
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oh sorry

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@wanton sail how do i make a new one

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can you delete this bro

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common now

peak creek
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😭mb

quiet hazel
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u ruined my channel ty

peak creek
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4 messages

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Chill out dawg

quiet hazel
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helpers cant even see what i need help with

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Oh mb

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youre

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its whatevs

wanton sail
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@quiet hazel okay maybe that I'm not familiar enough with this to understand it properly, but can you post context, I'm not really understanding the notation

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cdf is just the probability that x+y will be less than or equal to a, conditional cdf is just the same thing but assuming some extra condition

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is F a function of two variables here or one?

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@quiet hazel Has your question been resolved?

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wanton sail
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Is there a problem you're trying to solve using this, or is it just like a conceptual question

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No

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I’m just trying to understand these concepts

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And why each formula is used the way it’s used

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wait so if F is a function of two variables, why does it only have one input in your equations

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Actually I take that back

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Function of one variable

wanton sail
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wait I'm confused now lol

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what are x and y, and what is F?

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wanton sail
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ahh you're learning about convolutions

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It’s the formula in 3.1

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I see now

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this video might help you (it helped me when I was learning about convolutions)

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I thought convolutions helps us find the PDF of a multi variable function

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Not cdf

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I’m not talking about 3.2

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I’m talking about 3.1

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I wanna know the difference between that formula and the conditional cdf of multivariable function formula

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in your mind, what are the similarities between them, like how are they the same

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also in this textbook, the lowercase f is PDF and the uppercase F is CDF to answer your earlier question

quiet hazel
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Wb in general?

wanton sail
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in general, upper case letters are usually the integral of a lower case letter

quiet hazel
wanton sail
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so makes sense why they choose upper case letters to represent CDF and lower case to represent PDF

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since CDF is integral of PDF

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So I’m guessing the 3.1 formula is used to find cdf of a multivariable function and the conditional cdf one is finding a a cdf of the expression that we got from condition pdf?

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Ic

wanton sail
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also the formula for F_{X+Y} is a convolution

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(why I linked you the video)

quiet hazel
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For the first one can I change the formula to be X + Y is greater than something?

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yes

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ic

wanton sail
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just take 1 - the cdf

quiet hazel
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So yeah second one mainly used for conditional prob

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wanton sail
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yes, P(X+Y > a) = 1 - P(X+Y ≤ a)

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since they are complements

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either one can happen or the other

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Ah

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Alright

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Ty

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SOMEONE

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HELP

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a diff question

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wron question

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how much does a robux cost?

misty sable
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1 dollar is one robux y

golden sundial
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curiosity. your goal here is to isolate your variable

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o

golden sundial
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what's your variable in this question?

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okay

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T

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but it doesn't say the worth

golden sundial
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perfect, so you need to have it alone in the left side

misty sable
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it's 7th grade math soo

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misty sable
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so we ignore it?

golden sundial
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no no lol

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if you have 5t + 28 = 10
you would subtract the term on the same side as your variable

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so subtract 28 from both sides

misty sable
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so 5 - 28?

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if u mean 5-28

red raven
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No. 5t = 10-28

golden sundial
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5t + 28 **- 28 **= 10 - 28

misty sable
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-23

golden sundial
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you subtract 28

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wait

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where did we get 10

golden sundial
misty sable
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oh nvm

golden sundial
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wait

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it's not a fraction

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to simplify

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tho

golden sundial
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subtract

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5t+28=10
You take the 28 and convert it into a minus and put it next to the 10
5t = 10-28
Then the 5t you change it it into division with the quantity of 10-28
t= (10-28)/5

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And you calculated t.

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Which t would be -3.6

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o

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makes sense a bit now

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thankq

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No problem.

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@misty sable do .close

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@crimson sedge
The first one is (45/50)(44/49).
That is, we multiply the probabilities that we pick one perfect chip after the other.

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A perfect chip AND a perfect chip
(45/50) × (44/49)

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Part c is a little harder. There's a few ways to pick one perfect and one defective chip

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In simple situations like this, I like to think using a tree diagram

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What's the probability that you get perfect, then defective? What's the probability that you get defective, then perfect? Add those.

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I actually don't know that "P(x)" means in this context

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But finding the expected number of calls is as easy as using the formula

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Should have some kind of formula for expected value

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Basically Σ xP(x)
Where x is the value, P(x) is the probability it happens

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Yeye go ahead

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should powers be subtracted from each other when they are divided? i literally forgot how to do this

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