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You're using a combination
$$\ln{|\sec{(x)} + \tan{(x)}|} + C$$
Ooo
Umbraleviathan
I have a list of these
Wait how
Hm I got that
So sec(x) implies that the hypoentuse is x, adjacent is 1
Find the other side
$\sqrt{x^2-1^2}$
Umbraleviathan
Hm yea
I know why it says
I read it as tan(arcsec
Sqrt sec x
;-;
Lol
Yea lol
Got my final answer
$a\sqrt{\frac{x^2}{a^2}+\frac{x}{a}}+a\log{|\sqrt{\frac{x}{a}+1}+\sqrt{\frac{x}{a}}|}$
Hmm k
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Help please this is hard
You have to wait at least 15 minutes before pinging helpers
i know i was in another chat and after 20 mins no one helped me
Well, you opened a new channel, then, same rules apply, you still need to wait
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Im stuck on question 13 (b) where u hv to form a formula
This is what we use to form the formula
Heres what i did, when i looked at the back my answer ws very different and i dont know where i rly went wrong
Heres the answer at the back ex8.3 Q13(b)
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yours is already closed u have to make a new one
my question is how to do this I forgot to sauy
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Regular polygon means all sides are equal
You can divide this hexagon into six congruent isosceles triangles
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@silent yew great Lelouch thanks to ur wisdom i did 2 more questions and i got them right
something with similar triangles
ADE is similar to ABC
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huh?
im sorry
yep
$\left(\frac{3}{4}\right)^2$
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okok
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The answer is wrong
I'm curious how you reached that conclusion
Children are so impatient
kind of not a child but still
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Ben drives to his friend, which is 40 miles away and then drives back.
On the way there, he drives 40 miles an hour, but on the way back only 20 mph.
What is the average speed for the whole trip?
If he drives 40mph and 20mph, his average speed should be (40+20)/2 = (60)/2 = 30 => 30mph, right?
But it's actually 26 2/3 mph
Why?
But they give you 2 speeds, so why not take the average of them?
you can't just add the two velocities because in a sense the 20 mph is more important, as it was present for a longer time
oh
because when he's going slower, he's spending more time traveling back...so he's spending more time traveling at that speed
oops not sure why that was a reply for some reason
Also formula of average speed is total distance by total time you have to use it
yeah that's a good way to look at it
he travels a total of 80 miles and he spends 1 hour on the way there and 2 hours on the way back so 80 / 3 = 26.6...
yeah makes sense, the average speed will be lower than 30mph because he spends more time driving 20mph
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Hello
ask your question please
,rotate
what do you know about the probability as you go down the tree (towards the right side)
You multiply the numbers on the same branch that leads to only 1 win
And then add the parallel branches
that doens't help why it works
if they knew they wouldn't be stuck
I need the answer to B
i know
how do you find the probability of going lose lose
I don’t know
what's the probability you lose
0.6?
where did you get 0.6
0.2 x 3 = 0.6 all the losses added up
50 50
where did you get 50 50
You either lose or you don't
dont confuse people
Aight sorry
where does it say you lose 50% of the time
Leave that I thought u ment something else
I don’t know
50%
what's the chance you get heads twice in a row
50%
25%
how did you get 25%
Bro I literally got my GCSE maths paper in 12 hours Paper 2 I ain’t got no time to be flipping coins
just follow through here, there's no point telling you the answer if u cant apply it to a different problem
Just tell me the answer
the answer is 32%
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Find the maximum value of the function f(x) = x³-6ax²+9a²x-2a³ on the intervals within the domain 0 ≤ x ≤ 2. Assume that a > 0
I literally cant wrap my head around this question.
What have you tried
I can find the values of the equations without intervals and with intervals using differential calculus, but I can't seem to understand how to even begin with these kinds.
do you know calculus
I know differential calculus
I'm still learning
what does maximum mean
about this question I have tried to get help
what's special about maximums
what's special about maximums in terms of calculus
there's relative/local and absolute/global maximums
wdym
It teaches you on how to find derivatives?
what are derivatives
The slope at a specific point on a graph
Idek
They're asking how you calculate a max/min
what's special about the slope at a maximum
It is 0
right
yes
so differentiate the function for its slope
and find when it's equal to 0
that's where the local maximum/minimum will be yeah?
yea but the problem
is that
since
is it not in the interval
there is another variable a
I get the derivative of the function
to be
3(x-a)(x-3a) so the critical points are at a, and 3a
but what do I do with this?
Find the maximum value of the function f(x) = x³-6ax²+9a²x-2a³ on the intervals within the domain 0 ≤ x ≤ 2. Assume that a > 0
just repost
no like what does this imply about the max of 3(x-a)(x-3a)
not sure
to be honest
Im assuming
that a is the maximum
and 3a is the minimum
Yes
based off the graph
ah oops i typoed
so you know 3(x-a)(x-3a) is the derivative right
that's kind of my logic to it
yes
yes
thats correct
makes sense
Shouldn't you also consider the bounds of the interval?
Remember this only applys when coefficient of leading term is positive
yea i mean it is between 0 and 2
what exactly is the "leading" term you are referring to?
The max might be one of 0 or 2, if it's not a or 3a
the max is either at x = 2 or x = a @vagrant spindle do you see this
The x³ term in the polynomial
yea thats true
how exactly?
it cant be 0
It can't be 0 as its a and a > 0
yes of course
if the max is at 0 then a would be 0
then the graph would flip otherwise
Ye
think about hte graph
either a is within the bounds 0 < x < 2
and 3a isn't
then a must be the largest value
if 3a is also in the bound
then it can grow up higher than 3a
yes
now think about hte bounds
if i cut the bounds between a and 3a
then a is the top
if i cut after 3a
then there's a chance it can grow above x = a
so it's either x = a or x = 2
yea because its closest to 0 on the positive x axis
so yes thats true
do you see it now
hm
yea
3a can still be higher then 2
I don't understand what you mean
so what exactly is the method
from here you do f(a) and f(2) and see what's bigger
The only way that's true is if 2 ≤ a, so neither point is in the bounds and 2 is the max, no?
If 3a is less then 2 how will that matter ? (Ik it can if the graph shoots back up again, but we don't know how long it will take that to happen)
that's why we need to find f(a) and f(2) and see what's bigger
yes
IF a is not within 0 -> 2
if a is within 0 -> 2 and 3a isn't
then a is the max
either way it must be either x=a is the max or x=2 is the max
plug them into your function and solve
see what's bigger
i mean a is arbitrary
so it wouldnt make any sense
you wouldnt get a definitive value
i suppose
if f(a) > f(2) then f(a) is max if a < 2
If 3a is less then 2 then it depends on the graphs gradients wether 2 is the max or a is
Bro we can't find f(a)
if f(a) > f(2) then f(2) is max if 2 < a
We can't even find f(2)
Yea but when you plug in a you will have a² terms
Which will depend alot on the size of a when say comparing to a 2a term
so @buoyant latch how exactly would you recommend I go about these problems?
I looked at the answer
in the answer key
it just shows me
2 ranges and the maximum values corresponding to them in terms of a
there's no definitive maximum
can u send a picture
sure
it should be dependent on a
ok do you see the right 3 graphs
those are the 3 situations i mentioned
either a > 2 in which case f(2) is the max
or a < 2 < 3a then f(a) is the max
or a < 3a < 2 in which case you test if f(a) or f(2) is greater, the greater is the maximum
aren't there more possibilties?
oh but there's actual coefficients that lock the function in
??
honestly i dont see why it says for values x > 3a, let f(x) = 2a^3
exactly
i didnt understand why they said it for x = 4a
and then they compared that
Seems like an arbitrary choice
Maybe its just an example to show such a possibility exists
similar to this
and they all use a different method to solve
thats why i cant understand the concept
of using intervals in diff. calc
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hello
Does anyone have any recommendation for a free online calculator that can multiply a 15x15 matrix with another 15x15 matrix
thanks!
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I forgot how to do this kind of equation, there’s little to work with
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cant read it
it says
"Determine, to the nearest tenth of a year, how long it would take an investment to double at a 3 and 3/4 interest rate, compounded continuously."
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i really need help but I don't know how to do it
I'd really like if someone could walk me through it
so the formula is money = investment * e^(rt)
2 * investment = investment * e^(rt)
2 = e^rt
take logs...
am i missing something?
you feel like P is what?
it's like, for example,
Peter has $200,000 in his bank account, compounded continuously at a rate of {value of r} for unknown for somethin
you're missing P
you don't have to know P
it'd be 2 = e^0.0375(t)
mhm
N = b^e
B^e = N
ln{b}N = e
right
so B is e, but ln does that for us so it's really just
ln2 = 0.0375(t)?
i've no idea what you did there but the last thing you said is correct
also, if I don't need to know P, how do I get rid of it?
oh.
ok
you get rid of it because when you have this sort of compounding
but P is a starting value
money = P * e^rt
oh so P is just investment
yea. it's the amount that you put in initially
so wouldn't it be 2P?
yes, that's what i wrote above too 😄
oh right
also, if you substitute t = 0, you get your money at time zero
that is, the initial investment
no
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Would need to see the definition of f(x)
So f(x) is only defined from 0 to 2
And you want P(X>1)
That's where the 1 and 2 come from
we cant have a value less than 0 in the bounds since x has to be greater than 1, right or nah?
and the only value than is greater than 1 is 2 in this case
how can i find the cdf of this? @crystal raptor
Integrate it
@modern compass you know this?
yes, the cdf F(x) is the integral from -infinity to x of the pdf
your pdf is only non-zero between 0 and 2. so any bounds on an integral less than 0 or greater than 2 are pointless, they don't add anything to the value of the integral
what is x?
thats why the bound is from 1 to 2, because we want to find x that si greater than 1. so 0 wont fit in that case, and 2 wouldve been the limit since thats the highest the bound can go up to right?
what would x be in this case?
o
wut abt this tho?
yes
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Can somebody explain to me why is it that on straigth line, a point on it for a certain segment is considered to be both a minimum and a maxium at the same time? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmrhZ5ySaD0&t=78s
Sal gives multiple examples where he identifies relative maximum points, relative minimum points, absolute maximum points, and absolute minimum points.
Practice this lesson yourself on KhanAcademy.org right now:
https://www.khanacademy.org/math/algebra/algebra-functions/maximum-and-minimum-points/e/recognize-maxima-and-minima?utm_source=YT&utm_...
Is the line horizontal
My issue is that I don't understand how one value can be a minimum and maximum at the same time
the idea does not enter into my head
If we have y=2 and y=5, then 2 is the min. and 5 is the max
this makes sense, but how can one value be the two at the same time?
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Min and max only refer to one function.
y=5 is a horizontal line
Plot it and see what alternative could be if not max=min
Could it not be only maximum ? or vice versa
Look up the definition of max and min
"In mathematical analysis, the maxima and minima (the respective plurals of maximum and minimum) of a function, known collectively as extrema (the plural of extremum), are the largest and smallest value of the function, either within a given range (the local or relative extrema), or on the entire domain (the global or absolute extrema)."
how does this answer my problem of comprehension though
I understand the explanation, I just don't understand the rough case
I found something
f(c) is a local maximum if f(c) ≥ f(x) for all x near c.
f(c) is a local minimum if f(c) ≤ f(x) for all x near c.
The answer to your question about max and mins relies on you knowing the mathematical definition of them
@dire geode
Looks right. Apply it to constant functions
In the case of a horizontal line, both definitions are satisfied, right?
Show your work
If we take y = 5 for all x
wait a minute let me write this down
@dire geode f(x) = 5, for one point x, is going to be superior or equal to all other f(x), on a certain segment of the horizontal line.
Inversely, f(x)=5, for one point x, is going to be inferior or equal to all other f(x), on a certain segment of the horizontal line
I don't think people use inferior and superior but yeah that's right
In both cases though, they're all equal to each other, so it satisfies both the definitions of minimum and maximum
@dire geode I said inferior or superior to put the definition as I gave it preivously, but it's obvious that they're equal in both cases, and not superior or inferior
No I mean those words are outdated
ohh
ok, so the reason why it's a minimum and maximum at the same time, is because they both satisfy the two conditions at the same time
@dire geode Am i Understanding this right?
By condition, I mean the mathematical definition
so I understand now, thanks very much for the help. What was my error then?
I di dnot understand the definition of the thing?
@dire geode sorry one last question
Inf and sup are not outdated what
Hi, since you read the convo, could you tell me what was my error as to why I was not understanding it?
Is it because I had no idea of the mathematical definition of it?
Oh I see your question
Now, I'm trying to understand why was it that I did not understand at first
I totally get it
what was blocking in my head
The idea that maximum and minimum had to be two different things
In a room full of people, there’s inevitably going to be a tallest person and a shortest person
But if you’re the only person in the room, you are now both the tallest and the shortest
Right
do you have another metaphor for this
said this way it makes sense also
but what made me understand this thing was the mathematical definition funnily enough
It’s like saying 3<= x<= 3
oh yes, 3 is going to be satisfying these two conditions
x=3 satisfies those two conditions
It’s also the minimum and maximum of that range
ok, i think also said this way it makes sense
What you were confused about makes perfect sense though
Minimum and maximum are inherently about comparison
But if there’s only one object, you’re not really comparing anymore
So it’s weird
since there has to be inevitable one tallest and one shortest, when there's only one person left, he is the only one who can satisfy those two conditions in the room
Basically yeah
He is greater than or equal to everyone’s height
But “everyone” is him, and he is equal to his height
Hence he is the tallest person
And vice versa for minimum
exactly, I think the issue was that there's an intuitive understanding of the notion, and then there's the rough edge case which can only make sense if you have a precise definition for the notion, which is the mathematical definition of it
You said it perfectly, yep
i was trying to understand it intuitvely, and trying to compare it to something, hence why I was blocking in my understanding
And in fact there are definitions of minimum/maximum which do follow the intuitive notion - that is, they must be strictly bigger or smaller (no “equal to” business) than all the numbers around it
Those are called relative minimums
i was under the impresion taht relative had the equal to implied also?
relative minimum and relative maximum for a certain interval
Ah Im mistaken
said this way also it makes it clear, thanks again
I have as a rule that I have to be able to explain something to myself if I understand it
are you some university student?
which domain?
Thanks
you really helped me
Yeah
im closing now
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what have u tried
y = kx**^**2
ye thatgs what i did
okay so do you know what it means to increase x by 200%?
unfortunaetly no
what does it mean if i improve something by 100%
means you double the thing?
means triple
right
right, so what happens when you replace x with 3x in your equation?
expand it
y=k3x^2?
are you sure
uh
wait what
y=3kx^2
so you're saying that (ab)^n = ab^n
yes
yes
,w (2*3)^2
oh
this is basic index laws
ooh
it's very difficult to progress forwards in math without understanding prior content
maths is like a building you cant understand higher level concepts if you dont get the fundamentals
oh i see
so i ask again, y = k(3x)^2 can you expand this
yes
ok do it
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what have you tried?
assume distance = x, time = distance divided speed, so x/2/100 + x/2/60 = 2/3
which doesnt work
haven't i converted everything
Send your work
but in our problem we have time in mins and speed in km/h
are you there @craggy anchor ?
ok how did u reach the second equation from the first?
fraction rule
which is?
a/b/c = ac/b
so that's the mistake
first of all do you mean $\frac{\left(\frac{a}{b}\right)}{c}$ or $\frac{a}{\left(\frac{b}{c}\right)}$?
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I think that the TME wouldn't match
With
Set A and Set B
A
PE = 58800
KE = 0m/s
TME = 58800
B
PE = 51450
KE = 0m/s
TME = 51450
Am i dumb
Am i missing something here?
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Total mechanical energy
is it frictionless
Yes, i think so
okay denote where A, B and C are
because A and
B
which one is h =40
check PE of A
By check you mean correct right?
oh
dont denote it as m/s its not the unit for energy
Joules is the unit for energy
your part B is wrong
do you know the law of conservation of energy?
energy is always conserved and since there are no frictional forces
that means there is no energy really lost to the environment
so the person should have some kinetic energy at point B
and remember that total energy = kinetic energy + potential
Right
Im so confused at the problem
wdym
i legit explaiend it
@queen pivot
Yes
TME is
consistent
no matter where you are in that hill
so TME in A = TME in B = TME in C
does that make sesne?
due to the conservation of energy
yes
very good
you know the PE in every single one of the different points
thus you cans olv efor KE in the different points
does that make sense
Yes
ok great
I'm also watching a video rn
so whats your TME on point B
My answer is 51450
yup and then what is KE then
this is different to your answer here already :)
7350
I subtracted 51450 to 58800
Yeah Hahaha
you can always make sense with physics
True
Yes sir!
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I gotta find S22 in arithmetical progression. a8+a15=48
is that an actual language?
looks like georgian
notice they are a difference of 7
me
What that gives to me
:3
Good job, son
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What have you tried
Is the answer 528?
Yeah I just got it
Well then
I think just like how u did the last question
You should be able to do this one as well
Good luck
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Ok
what is your question?
Also, all that is false
in the second picture we divided by 0

in the first we took the sqrt but forgot to take the absolute value
Is this correct
None of it is correct
Ok
It breaks the laws of math
sqrt(x^2)=|x| and not sqrt(x^2)=x
Hmm
or worded differently, x^2=y^2 does not mean x=y, it just means x=+-y
Ohh right
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I don't get what I'm doing wrong when I input -3 as X, the answer should be 243/2 but I don't get that
Because you changed the bounds
it looks like you both switched bounds and back-substituted, you only need to do one
you put the U bounds into the X equation
If you were using -3 to 1 as the bounds, you would keep it in terms of u still
so i'd do (1/6(-3)^6) instead of replacing u with the function?
think of it like this: why did it go from 0 and 2 to -3 and 1 in the first place? you already input x into your equations, now there's only u left
So if you wanted to use the bounds of -3 to 1, you would use the equation 1/2(1/6(u)^6) because those bounds are specifically for the equation in terms of u
swap these
im confused on when to change the bounds and when not too
u should be -3 to 1
x should be 0 to 2
as it says in the original problem
since u = 2x - 3
changing the bounds happens when you want to change variables completely and not have to deal with x anymore. it's like "preprocessing" the bounds so that you don't have to get to the end result and swap everything back to be in terms of x at the end
Depends on the variable in the equation. If it's in terms of x, you use the x bounds, typically the original ones. If it's in terms of u, then you use the bounds in terms of u, which is the part when you plug in the value for x, to get some u
also change bounds in step 1
there's a reason that you're often taught to write down your substitutions, that way you can track exactly what variable each set of bounds "belongs to"
in my calc courses we were always told that if we wanted to use a sub, we had to label the bounds as "x=a" and "x=b" first, so we could track what went where
okay so if im changing the bounds i input the new bounds as u into the equation, if im not replacing them I need to put the function for u back in and use the original bounds right?
does anyone have any good resources for circles at an undergrad level
yes, exactly
open your own channel under Math help (avaliable)
you get to choose: change the end equation, or change the bounds. As long as you pick one or the other, not both, you should be fine
okay, that makes so much sense. I've been confused on how that works. Thank you!
if you check out #help-11 you can see a good example of how it works in more crazy cases, and why labeling your substitutions is so important.
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Im trying to solve this example
This is my attempt
I'm getting the wrong answer, but I can't figure out what Im doing wrong
any help would be much appreciated
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looks right
but if its wrong then maybe they want a particular unwinding direction? like clockwise
Holy hypnosis
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How to get the Extremvalue of this following function in relation to the Parameter (a):
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ok this might be a stupid question but how would you do this problem without the use of a calculator
32 and 4
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does ev ever change if you reroll a die?
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how to solve?
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Finding the volume
What were the notes from class/Resources from your teacher?
Area of the base * Height is good
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