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bold hinge
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lim h->0 ((x+h)^2 - x^2)/h

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Now expand the numerator

marble bone
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Done

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(x^2+h^2+2hx-x^2)

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x^2 can cancel out?

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(h^2+2hx) / h

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Ok then

bold hinge
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Yep, that simplifies further

marble bone
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Do it?

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and see

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h(h+2x) / h if I take h common

bold hinge
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+2x

marble bone
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Oh ya

bold hinge
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Then the h cancels out on top and bottom

marble bone
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I have h+2x

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So now I plug it in?

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And get 2x

bold hinge
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Yep

marble bone
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Dam

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That's nice

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But some proofs use h^2=0

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As an approximate

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Would that mean

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Those proofs are wrong

bold hinge
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Which proofs

marble bone
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Like what 3b1b showed

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In his calc course

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I mean series

silent ledge
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wait i read somewhere, that it's approximations but with a really small error(?)

marble bone
silent ledge
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silent ledge
marble bone
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And solving a limit instead

silent ledge
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i dont understand what this means

marble bone
silent ledge
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yes i jus started this subject T__T

marble bone
silent ledge
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wait, what do i need to learn to understand this please

marble bone
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Limits

silent ledge
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like...how?

marble bone
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U need to understand limits which is also a part of calculus

silent ledge
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alright, what are limits and how do they relate to the question? since all i know is that there's a limit, we have to get as close to it but not actually be the limit(?)

marble bone
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One way is by factoring

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Wait

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I am also getting confused

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💀

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How do we even know that limit isn't a approximation

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The moment we cancel out h we know that h=0 and 0 dosent cancel out

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How do even show it approaches

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Some value

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By factoring

silent ledge
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oof endtimes gotta get back in here

marble bone
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Ya

bold hinge
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it's not an approximation because you let the error go to 0. emphasis on "go to" rather than "be equal to"

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the whole point of taking the derivative is finding the slope of the tangent line at a given point on a curve

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here's an example problem for you:
you are in a car undergoing a constant acceleration. your position as a function of time is x(t) = 5t^2. how fast are you going after 2 seconds?

marble bone
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How are we approaching something

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When we just factored it

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And thought that 0/0=1

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Even when we use lhoptal while computing limits as x approaches 0 we compute the function at x very close to 0

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Not exactly at 0

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We don't approach anything

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We just compute at the place closest to 0

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Yet not 0

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Which again brings back dx

bold hinge
marble bone
bold hinge
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because h/h = 1

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for nonzero h

marble bone
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And h=0

bold hinge
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right, and that's why we have to take the limit

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for all h arbitrarily close to 0, h/h = 1

marble bone
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So ya again "close" To 0

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Not 0

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?

bold hinge
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yes

marble bone
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Which is dx/dx and not 0/0

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?

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I think I got it in a different way

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Nvm

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x/x approaches 1 as x approaches 0

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This way

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Ig

bold hinge
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yes

marble bone
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And not because for values "around 0" x/x=1

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?

bold hinge
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that's the same statement

marble bone
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It's because they approach it

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And not close to it

bold hinge
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lim x->0 x/x = 1, yes

marble bone
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Yup makes sense

bold hinge
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when we take limits, we do not care about what the function actually does at that point

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it doesn't matter what 0/0 actually is, or whether it is defined

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the only thing that matters is the behavior of the function in some arbitrarily small interval surrounding 0, but not at 0 itself

marble bone
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My point is that " As for values of x very very very close to 0 x/x is 1 " Is not reason the limit is 1 it's because the "x/x approach 1 as x approaches 0"?

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And they are different things ig

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But ya I am convinced that calculus is exact

bold hinge
marble bone
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If I think of it very deeply

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f(dx) = f(0) [ this is what the first line says ]
While second line says
f(1) = 1
f(0.5) = 1
f(0.25) = 1
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Approaches 1

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They are totally different

bold hinge
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f(0) is undefined

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you can't just divide 0 by 0

marble bone
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I mean f(0) should be close to f(dx)

bold hinge
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f(x) = x/x
we want to find the limit as x approaches 0, so we let x equal 0 and find the limit for some arbitrarily small change in x, dx
f(0+dx) = (0+dx)/(0+dx)
then we have:
lim dx->0 dx/dx

bold hinge
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you should look at the epsilon delta definition

marble bone
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Again

bold hinge
marble bone
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Ya but it will not be 0 or exact

bold hinge
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but we are still able to get an exact result in this case because the expression simplifies to a simpler one for all x in the neighborhood of 0

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look at the epsilon delta definition of the limit

marble bone
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I am thinking of it in terms of that

marble bone
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It's always better to think approach in terms of epsilon and delta

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Makes much more sense

silent ledge
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idk7 can u explain it 4 me TwT i got nothing im too noob

marble bone
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Then it might make sense

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I started making silly blunder when I didn't thought of it in terms of epsilon and delta

silent ledge
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how far off is epsilon n delta, its not in our syllabus

marble bone
# silent ledge how far off is epsilon n delta, its not in our syllabus

https://youtu.be/kfF40MiS7zA this is enough don't watch the lhoptal part

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As I doubt u will understand it

silent ledge
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aight imma watch it

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lemme jus ask idk7, is calculus approximate or exact? based on what you got from endtimes?

silent ledge
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aight ill take u guys words 4 it till get on the epsilon thing then imma ask again if i dont get it thanks

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i think this worked...

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@bold hinge @marble bone can i dm u guys or smth once i get a higher calc degree to ask abt my question again?

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do we have to take log in this question?
or else how to calculate since the first 1 was in 12 but thete is no such option

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You have 2⁵ and 2¹⁰, just check which of the options have both

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hello what is the hight and width of the triangle to get the biggest surface?

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count the blocks

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coarse hearth
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so we are using binomial theorem here

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wat does k denote here

faint socket
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u are calculating the roots z^1/n so you have n roots, the k is the number of the root

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it goes from 0 to n-1 which gives n roots in total

coarse hearth
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ahhhhh ok ok

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thanks man

faint socket
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you could try it for example for a 4th root, and when you draw it it creats a square inside the trigonometric circle of radius given by the 4th root of the modulus of the original number

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and in general it shows as an n-gon, so you are dividing the circle in n parts

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ahh so we basically representing many roots in terms of K

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sick crest
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made a tiny mistake somewhere

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can somebody help me?

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can't find it

vernal shell
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Hello, I think you forgot the minus sign of u in the first line

crimson sedge
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well it is there

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he has e^ln(u + 1/2)^-1 = 1/(u + 1/2)

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it is correct

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(that line)

vernal shell
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look at the line before that

sick crest
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last line from the first screenshot?

vernal shell
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yes

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it's -u + 1/2

crimson sedge
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no

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properties of logarithms

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-1ln(x)

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is ln(x)^-1

sick crest
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yea

crimson sedge
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n*ln(x) = ln(x)^n

vernal shell
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$\int \frac{1}{-u+1/2}, du =-\ln |-u+1/2|$

wraith daggerBOT
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leonardogtf

sick crest
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i think i made a mistake in the second to last or third to last line in the first screenshot

crimson sedge
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oh you mean the line before that

vernal shell
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yes, that's exactly what I said 😅

crimson sedge
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im sorry

sick crest
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ohh

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now i see it too

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ok will fix it and try again. can i leave this thread open or close for now?

crimson sedge
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you can leave it open if you will try again

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just in case

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but when you're done, close it

sick crest
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checked it with a calculator. there is no minus behind the x after integrating. (substitute it with u) <

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but i dont get the last step

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how do you simplify it like that? 😕

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nobody? 😦

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ember python
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Then combine the logarithms

sick crest
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okay understood that but does it even matter which one i take?

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or is it the same

livid hound
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wdym by

which one i take

sick crest
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because it is the same or not?

livid hound
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ideally you'd simplify as much as possible

sick crest
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ok will try it with the simplified version

dire geode
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Valid meaning the two formulas are equal

sick crest
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ok

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still the same result

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didn't change anything 😦

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sick crest
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solved it

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i wrote -ln(|x+(1/2)|)+C but as you can see from the calculator the right integration is: -ln(|x-(1/2)|)+C

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Hi would anyone mind checking my number 6 thank you very much its for my exam in the next few days

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Your number 6 is correct.

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can someone check if this proof is good please

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I would just do 4^-x

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Or does that have a horizontal

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...

eternal comet
wraith daggerBOT
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Remavas

tight herald
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Welp

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Then I may have to think about this one a bit longer

eternal comet
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It's quite easy actually, but I'll wait for the op to answer my question.

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tight herald
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@eternal comet Is it just (x + 4)^x

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tight herald
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Bruuuu

eternal comet
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Thanks for the amazing bounds wolfram

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,w plot (x + 4)^x from -5 to 1

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tight herald
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TF?

eternal comet
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Seems like it will work

tight herald
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I guess

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Looks awful though

eternal comet
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A much easier option

tight herald
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@eternal comet What would be the proper solution

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Or easier*

eternal comet
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I immediately just thought of $\frac{1}{x+4} + x$

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Remavas

mighty drift
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1/(x+4) + x has that same vertical asymptote but no horizontal asymptote

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Same

tight herald
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Hm

eternal comet
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It behaves as x when x goes to infinity

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so no horizontal asymptote

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marble bone
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Say it?

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Is it asking the minimum number of members needed for the condition to yield?

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I see

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Hint :- Just let the number of members needed to be x

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And try to see if u can come up with a formula

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Like when the costs at both places are equal

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That has to be the threshold

crimson sedge
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Just looking at the ice rink case "Lizzy would pay $40 plus $18.25 per person" what is a very obvious word we can replace with a math symbol such as (+, -, *, /)

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First, Write the equation for the ice skating

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@golden lion ^

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Just a question, if A Cone and A Cylinder were combined into one shape and I was asked for the surface area, it would be (2 x pi x r x h) + (pi x r x l) but if it were only the cylinder and I was asked to find the surface area, it would be 2 x pi x r x h + 2 x pi x r^2 right

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Oh yea I forgot about that thanks!

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Imma do the first for you
You do the rest
f(x) = 9x-3
Let y=f(x)
y=9x-3
y+3 = 9x
(y+3)/9 =x
Thus f-¹(x) = (x+3)/9

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In -x³ if x=10 do i do it like -(10)³=-(-1000)=1000 or (-10)³=-1000?

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Ah i see

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A company's profit is determined by the function P(x)=-x(x-10)(x-30) where P=profit x=branches operated

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Do i first turn -x(x-10)(x-30) into -x³+40x-300?

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If so then if x=10 would the answer be -900 meaning the company lost -900 profit?

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A company's profit is determined by the function P(x)=-x(x-10)(x-30) where P=profit x=branches operated

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Do i first turn -x(x-10)(x-30) into -x³+40x-300?

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If so then if x=10 would the answer be -900 meaning the company lost -900 profit?

lethal jackal
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that is not a complete question

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you have simply stated something about a company

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what problem are you trying to solve?

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I believe i sent further message

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Do i first turn -x(x-10)(x-30) into -x³+40x-300?

lethal jackal
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no I saw your message

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but here's the thing

rustic sedge
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Oh

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math questions aren't some random language

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they're English or whatever native language you want

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just stating

A company's profit is determined by the function P(x)=-x(x-10)(x-30) where P=profit x=branches operated
doesn't tell anyone what you're trying to do or why this matters

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If someone walked up to you and said "Apple made over $100 billion last year," you'd be like "okay, why are you telling me this?"

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the same applies here

rustic sedge
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Oh

lethal jackal
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you do mathematical manipulations / mathematical steps to achieve a particular goal

rustic sedge
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Sorry

lethal jackal
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not just because they're "correct" or whatever

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so is there more to the question?

rustic sedge
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Do i first turn -x(x-10)(x-30) into -x³+40x-300 so i can find out what the result is if x=10?

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Or do i just substitute 10 into -x(x-10)(x-30)

lethal jackal
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again

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you haven't stated a complete math problem

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To go back to my example about Apple, what you're doing here is saying something like "Apple made 162.75B in the 12 months of 2021," and then asking, "do I write that number as $162,750,000,000.00 or do I write it in scientific notation, or do I subtract 40% from it?"

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A company's profit is determined by the function P(x)=-x(x-10)(x-30) where P=profit x=branches operated

Evaluate the polynomial function for x=10?

lethal jackal
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what is the actual question being asked

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like if you have an actual screenshot of it, it would be much easier

rustic sedge
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Alright

lethal jackal
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okay I hope you realize that this bottom part is very important

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it tells you what you actually have to do

rustic sedge
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Yes

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I know

lethal jackal
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just pasting the top part means nothing by itself

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would've saved a good 5 minutes if you had pasted the bottom part

rustic sedge
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Sorry

lethal jackal
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to do part 1, all you have to do is plug in 10 for x

rustic sedge
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So no need to turn -x(x-10)(x-30) into x³+40x-300?

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If i solve it through plugging in 10 for x in -x(x-10)(x-30) it results in 0?

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If i plug in 10 for x in -x³+40x-300 it results in -900?

lethal jackal
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,w expand -x(x-10)(x-30)

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First of all, you have not expanded it correctly

rustic sedge
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Oh i missed x²

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and the x

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Ye

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Sorry

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Lemme solve it really quick

lethal jackal
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Second, these are two ways of writing the exact same thing

rustic sedge
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Ah

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Sometimes i solve using both so that i can be sure my answer is correct

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Its 0?

lethal jackal
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it is indeed zero

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(x-10) = 0 if x = 10

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so you get P(10) = (-10)(0)(-40)

rustic sedge
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So the company doesnt get any profit if they operate 10 branches

lethal jackal
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yes

rustic sedge
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And if x=20 its 2000

lethal jackal
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yeah

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And because it says "a company's profit in thousands of pesos..." Its 2,000,000?

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Integration

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Just wanted to ask if I actually do this step with log

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what did u eggen do

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even

open moss
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Like when we intregate nested functions
The derivate of the second one is divided below

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🤡

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And if we can't whats the reason behind it

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Shii

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Opposite

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idu what u mean

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me neither

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Blurred

eternal comet
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must be a new type of integration

open moss
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u need to use exponential form of trigonometric functions to wovle it

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solve

open moss
upper garnet
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then substitution, afterwards ibp, then partial decompision, and then u have to use a special integral

open moss
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Isnt there a chain rule for intreagation
Can we use it on log like this?

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no

eternal comet
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no

upper garnet
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do u mean integral of logxsinx

open moss
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Yes

upper garnet
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because log(sinx) is not an elementary function

eternal comet
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I assume log(sinx)

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Well that explains a lot

upper garnet
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doesn't have an elementary integral *

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use ibp

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K thnx for the terms
Will learn about them rn

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As a side-note, if you mean to logx

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write logx

open moss
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K

eternal comet
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Just out of curiosity

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,w integrate ln(sinx)

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it's big

eternal comet
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beautiful

open moss
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F

upper garnet
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it's doable except first term if u don't know special integral Li

eternal comet
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Hm, I knew li

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but not the polylogarithm

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this one's a famous one tho

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you can creatively use the bounds to find the integral

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you dont need to do the ususal indefinite integral then plug in bounds

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shoundnt it be (cos 2 pi/n)^2+sin(2 * pi/n)^2

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hi there i am stuck on proving the statement in blue

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i looked up a similar proof on mathstackexchange but i am confused by the answer on there

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What about some induction? Show that the statement is true with n+1 by asserting that it is already proven for n, and you can show all of it with just one real calculation.

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interesting. i didn't consider using induction

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actually yeah now that i think about it, this would b easier to prove with induction

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but how do i determine when or when not to use induction lmao?

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Intuition KEK
If you have some always-repeating thing, like >, so valid "to infinity", induction is usable. No idea when it makes sense/doesn't make sense to use though.

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i was having a real hard time proving this directly. been trying it for more than 50 mins smh

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this is the formula for the sum of n roots?

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I assume they were referring to this?

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"a set A in R will be called bounded if there exists M in R s.t. for every a in A : |a| <= M.

Let B be the set of bounded sets. Prove that B ~ P(P(N))

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hey can you please help me finding these differential equations

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And what form you need it in

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Qs 2 3 and 4 give you a good hint towards how you need to manipulate Q1

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That seems pretty important knowledge for this piece of homework 🙁

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should just take integral of it

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should I*

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No

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can you help me if you have time

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I like this series on DEs. Covers everything you would need to know for first order in A-Level Further Maths here in England - should be applicable to yours too

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Basically there is a process to follow and it usually just pops out nicely. I'm not going to do your questions for you though, but I am happy to check your work

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I am watching them now

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Sounds good

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so for the firsy q will I take integral of sqrt(1-y^2)/xsqrt(x^2-1)

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@glossy mist hey! If you are available can you check my question cause I am still struggling

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Can someone help me with #9

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@elfin hemlock help

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Hi everyone how do i find the partial derivatives of (-15,30) ?

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that doesn't seem to be something you can find the partial derivative of

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you need a function

formal nest
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can’t i use the definition?

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There must be a way since there is an answer

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Its 1.3

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it seems they want you to estimate the derivative

formal nest
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Yea

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so, yeah go to that point and try out the smallest h you can try given your table

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?

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What

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Would h be an t value for the first one ?

tranquil oracle
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go to (-15, 30) on your table, that's f(x, y)

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find values that are f(x+h, y) for small h that are in your table

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What is h ?

tranquil oracle
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some number

formal nest
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I don’t understand

tranquil oracle
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what values do you have in your table that are f(-15+h, 30) for |h| small?

formal nest
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-33 ?

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Or -20 ?

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yeah, nearby values are good

formal nest
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Then what do I do?

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apply the definition

formal nest
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It gives me 1

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how did you get 1

formal nest
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-33+26/7

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where did you get 7 from

formal nest
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Its h

tranquil oracle
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h is the change in temperature right?

formal nest
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-33-(-26)

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=-7

formal nest
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h is a change in the input

formal nest
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Wuuut i rly dont understand

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Could you elaborate?

formal nest
tranquil oracle
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-33-(-26) is a change in the output of the function

formal nest
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Whats input ?

tranquil oracle
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what values you put into the function

formal nest
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-33+26/-5

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=1.4 its still not 1.3

tranquil oracle
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try out the other side

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(-10, 30)

formal nest
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because its smaller ?

tranquil oracle
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well, it's as far apart as the first one

formal nest
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6 and not 7 ?

tranquil oracle
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so maybe it's worth trying out to see as well

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(-10, 30) and (-20, 30) are "equally far" from (-15, 30) so maybe both should be used to calculate the result

formal nest
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Was my calculation good ?

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The other gives me 1.2

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@tranquil oracle do i make the average?

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1.2+1.4/2

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yeah that's reasonable to take an average

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yeah that's the main idea

formal nest
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Ok thanks

formal nest
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do i apply the same strategy?

tranquil oracle
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well, it depends on how f is defined

formal nest
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This question is related to the previous

tranquil oracle
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same f as previous function?

formal nest
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yes

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Wasnt the partial derivative -0,15

tranquil oracle
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try out those difference quotients for big v

formal nest
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i did the same as the last problem but got -0,15

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what did you do exactly?

formal nest
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the answer is 0

tranquil oracle
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or technically you can argue physically and say that the answer is undefined

formal nest
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Well last time we dis question a) but we only did half the question only for T

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I repeated what u told me and got -0,15 for v

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But doesnt f decrease by 0,15 degree for every 1km/h of wind

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so why is the answer 0 ?

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okay from a "just try out the table" approach, try doing it for bigger and bigger v

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because there's the lim v->infinity

formal nest
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so i use f(any T, big v) ?

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yeah, try it out

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the result should be a function in terms of T

formal nest
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i still got -0,15

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What do i do ?

tranquil oracle
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where did you try it out?

formal nest
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On (-15,50)

tranquil oracle
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try more of it throughout the table

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try bigger v

formal nest
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Ughhhhhhh i hate this problem

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ok

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I got -0,1

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So we assume it decreases to infinity

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To 0

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that's what they want you to think

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but velocities are capped by the speed of light

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so the limit is not defined

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For q23 i

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b is supposed to be 1, but I got 2 :((((

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hello! In the case of the denominators for geometric sequences, you use 1-r in the case that r is greater than one, and r-1 in the case that r is less than negative one? I'm really sorry, but I can't find my notes confirming or denying

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i'm not sure what you are mentioning exactly, are you trying to expand out (1/(1-r)) in powers of 1/r?

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sorry! to clarify- the sum of geometric sequences

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in the formula for that, the denominator?

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the formula can be the same in both cases

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$\sum_{i=0}^kr^k=\frac{1-r^{k+1}}{1-r}=\frac{r^{k+1}-1}{r-1}$

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Element118

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wait okay sorry one second just checking bc the answer key alternates using both and I was confused

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Hi, i don't get why these two expressions are the exact same.

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Show the whole graph

lucid bolt
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The function

cosmic steppe
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Like the functions it graphs

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Unless you're asking if they're the same exact function

lucid bolt
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They are. I checked on desmos

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Gimme a sec

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Well yeah I also graphed it, and I'll tell you why

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yeah the graphc is same

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Factor out the 2, but because you're factoring from an argument that is being squared, square 2

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And you get 4

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Esssentially, you're dissecting the function:

(2x - 1)^2 = 2^2 • (x - 1/2)^2

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4(-1/2)^2
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just insert any x value

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thats why the graph is same

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I'd like the formula and while im trying to answer it, please let me know if im doing my solution right

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There's not really a formula

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It's just ratios

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As I said, it's not a formula

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They're ratios

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Do you know what a ratio is?

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okay im sorry, how do i solve it?

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Using ratios

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@elfin cypress lmao this dude

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As I questioned, do you know what a ratio is?

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yes i do but how exactly will you find the height?

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@obsidian coral knowing what ratios are doesn’t necessarily help

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Hmm

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You wanna help, feel free. I got stuff to do

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Ok, lol

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Uhhh hm

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assuming volume is linear in height and base area, then the ratio FigA:FigB will be 2.1:1 since 42.25/20.25=2.1

so the volume of A if B is 50 is 50*2.1 = 104.3

if volume of A costs 216 then volume B wiill cost 216/2.1 = 102.8

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Hmm

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No no

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Let’s do (a) first

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It’s actually an interesting question, despite the boring problem context

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so i got something wrong?

sick ruin
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Well yeah but

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Actually

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enlighten me

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Honestly I’m not like 100% sure but I’m pretty sure

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Okay let’s go on a little side trip

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(Gimme a sec)

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thank u

sick ruin
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Let’s say we’ve got two squares here

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The small square has a side length of 1, and the big square has a length of 2. So the ratio between these lengths is 2 : 1, or simply 2.

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What are the areas of these squares? @elfin cypress

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hello! i don't know why my answer was wrong. please let me know if there's a part of my solution that i should fix (to be fair, it is kinda weird that the volume was 0...)

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apply them on P, Q, R, S

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what do you notice

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oh i see lemme check

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how did you get that equation??

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well, I tried to figure which plane ax+by+cz=d they all lie on

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$\int_0^{2\pi}\int_0^{\pi}\int_0^{\infty}r^2(C\frac{r}{a_0} exp(\frac{-r}{4a_0} \cos\theta))^2 \sin\theta dr d\theta d\phi=1$

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Trenton

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I am solving this equation

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So normally I will solve the boxed part first :

$\int_0^{2\pi}\int_0^{\pi}\boxed{\int_0^{\infty}r^2(C\frac{r}{a_0} exp(\frac{-r}{4a_0} \cos\theta))^2 \sin\theta dr} d\theta d\phi=1$

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Trenton

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But my lecture notes solve the outer part first

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And I am not quite follow what is happening in the fourth line

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Can anyone tell me what happens?

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And why can we do that ?

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if so

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the outer integral is dr therefore everything that doesn't have a r is a constant to this integral

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so he takes out all those terms that don't have a r which is that cos^2 * sin

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Ok thank you

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I mean this, can I do this?

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yes

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Ok thank you, I will continue

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So I continue and get this

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Am I correct?

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Umm can anyone help me to have a look please

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I am not sure about F and G

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I guess A,B,C,D,E are all correct

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Does continuity imply differentiability?

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you can rule out several of these by the fact that they are not even true for n=1

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Can anyone tell me what is wrong here

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Sorry

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So I am asking about what is wrong lol

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Alright

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I don't think above means below lol

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Sorry for wasting your time

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That is typo for the web page I think

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Oic ok

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No

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My partial derivative is really suck

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If all first partial derivatives of $f$ exist on $D\subset R^n$ and are continuous at $\vec{x_0}$, then does it imply that $f$ is differentiable at $\vec{x_0}$?

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Trenton

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If $f$ is differentiable at $\vec{x_0}$, does that implies all first partial derivatives of $f$ at $\vec{x_0}$ exist?

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Trenton

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V =ah
But I don’t know what face area are they referring to.

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All of them.

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Together.

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@warm vector

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Oh

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So I use the area of the curved cylinder right?

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Yes, and there are three such cylinders.

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If that helps.

warm vector
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And do I times that by the perpendicular height which is 6+6+6

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your cake is composed of 3 cylindrical pieces

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find the volume of each and add them up

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just as you would find the volume of any other 'composite' shape

warm vector
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Instead of using the volume formula?

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Wdym? You will require the volume formula to calculate the volume of each cylinder.

warm vector
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Yes but I mean v=ah

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Yes.

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Instead I could just find the volume of each cake and add that up

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Would that work

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That would work perfectly.

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Yh that’s also what I meant ok

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Alright great then.

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I don’t understand how to do this question

warm vector
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I subtracted 5 from all sides and then calculated the volume but I’m still getting it incorrect so maybe my technique is wrong

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That is incorrect.

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You don't have to subtract from all the sides.

warm vector
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Then what should I do?

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Water is filled 5cm below the top
No change with the other two dimensions.

warm vector
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Oh

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Imagine a tank, which is not fully filled.

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Only the height then

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That means the change is the height

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@leaden snow

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R u free rn man?

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sup

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I'll post question

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Do u mind if i @ u for help sometimes. I really liked ur explanation

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But here is the tant from yesterday

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cos^2(x)?

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does tant not just go to sec^2?

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post the full problem

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Oh this one

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I remember

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yeah

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So I got a thanks to u

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but tan is a bit different cause my first is 0 and my 2nd is 1 and my 3rd is 0

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Yeah so you need more terms

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until you get 3 non-zero terms

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KK

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I'll do it and then I'll check with u if that's alright

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@azure magnet You could also find the first few terms using the Maclaurin series for sin and cos

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If the derivatives get too nasty for tan

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Wait a min

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amn't I meant to divide by n! here

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on each term

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I just used a differential calculator

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But I gotta divide by N! on each term then????????

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@azure magnet
$$\tan(x) = \sum_{n=0}^\infty \frac{f^{(n)}(0)}{n!} x^n$$

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So yes, you have to

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Oh shit

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so if I divide by n!

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I'll get the right answer then

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pog

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You should have calculated
$$f^{(0)}(0)$$
$$f^{(3)}(0)$$
$$f^{(5)}(0)$$

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So one is for n=0, one is for n=3 and one for n=5

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thanks

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I use the first 3 terms only

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right that should work out nicelt

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I got one more question for u man

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this

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so I use I hopital I diff the top and bottem (2nd fraction)

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and end up with picospix/1

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if I sub in 0 I get the answer to be 1

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It seems a bit too easy for 4 marks each roughly (both fractions)

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Have you been taught L'h?

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You can do these by expanding e^(2x) and sin(πx)

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Yeah

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L hopital

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pi sin pix /1

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and u sub in 0

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but Idk if the answer is 1 or pi

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I wish I could write in latex

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can anyone help me with this physics qn?

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@gaunt lake So work is Force * Distance right.

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do I use a triangle?

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@gaunt lake You could use a bunch of trapezoids

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aight

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so what would my explaination be

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Explain how you decomposed the area under the curve into triangles

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Decompose it into a right triangle and a rectangle below it

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can anyoni confirm if my proof is correct?

STATEMENTS
1. AC bisects ∠A and ∠C
2. ∠ABC ≅ ∠ADC
3. ∠AC ≅ ∠AC
4. ⊿ABC ≅ ⊿ADC

REASONS
1. Given
2. Definition of Bisector
3. Reflexive Property
4. By SSS
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is incorrect

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🗿

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how do i correct it

livid hound
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apply definition of bisector properly

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where is

∠ABC ≅ ∠ADC
coming form

crimson sedge
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∠ACB ≅ ∠ACD
is it

livid hound
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that would be more appropriate

crimson sedge
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ohh why is it

livid hound
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∠AC ≅ ∠AC
using two letters to denote an angle is also nonsense

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oh fuck uh

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that's a line right

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so there must be a macron on top

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ĀC ≅ ĀC

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something similae

livid hound
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$\overline{AC} \cong \overline{AC}$

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ℝamonov

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so i got only two stuff incorrect?

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rewrite your new attempt

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from what you initially wrote, only 1. was correct

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STATEMENTS
1. AC bisects ∠A and ∠C
2. ∠ACB ≅ ∠ACD
3. A͡C ≅ A͡C
4. ⊿ABC ≅ ⊿ADC

REASONS
1. Given
2. Definition of Bisector
3. Reflexive Property
4. By SSS
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pretend the thing on top is an overline

livid hound
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is still wrong

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where's SSS coming from?

crimson sedge
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i don't understand the side angle side thing so i just guessed

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would it be ASA