serious-discussion

[bleak stream]

k ty

[hidden reef]

discourse

[leaden torrent]

the problem is if we name em differently

[deep mango]

[leaden torrent]

people will think they fit different things

[modest rune]

my vote is officially for

#discussion and #∞-discussion

[surreal sapphire]

discussion-🐱 and discussion-🐶

[deep mango]

why is math general not math discussion!?!?!?!?

[leaden torrent]

that would attract all the cranks

[deep mango]

i will never understand this

[modest rune]

good

honeypot them

[sleek wing]

it's called quarantine

[deep mango]

they never answer slim

it's because they don't have a good answer

maybe manan will fix it if we ask nicely

oh maybe that's only admin level

idk

discussion and discussion-2 are fine. but math-general makes no sense.

[sharp mulch]

discussion-math

[deep mango]

it could be though slim, it could be

[velvet dagger]

@modest rune hum and sosc

[static loom]

why is it called 'second copy of #discussion'? wouldn't this technically be the first copy

[leaden torrent]

okay fine

[hybrid zephyr]

discussion
discussion-discussion
discussion-discussion-discussion

[leaden torrent]

its no longer #math-general

[deep mango]

[hidden reef]

Copy of discussion

[brisk spindle]

i second woogs suggestion

[static loom]

nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[deep mango]

i wish i were meming

[brisk spindle]

based

[static loom]

remove the s 😭

[sleek wing]

rullleeeee britaina

britainnaa rules the wavesss

[errant kiln]

I can die peacefully now.

[deep mango]

i feel like over time discussion-2 will reveal itself to be the better channel

and discussion will become chill-2

[errant kiln]

2 is always better than 1

[bronze pelican]

Why is ther discussion 2

[hybrid zephyr]

soon we'll have 10

just like questions

[sharp mulch]

ther

[errant kiln]

Are there like "subchannels" in Discord?

[hybrid zephyr]

nope

[errant kiln]

😭

[deep mango]

what if they were discussion-analysis-and-PDE, discussion-abstract-algebra, etc. but didn't actually have anything to do with any of the math topics

[leaden torrent]

we could just bring back

alpha and beta

[velvet dagger]

Each month we permute

[errant kiln]

"discussion-question-1"

[hidden reef]

this channel is ONLY for discussing the number 2

[leaden torrent]

and then all of you are betas

[sharp mulch]

Weird ABO vibes but ok

[deep mango]

that makes chill omega right?

[hidden reef]

whats your favourite property of 2

[modest rune]

#discussion and #meta-discussion for evaluating the quality of the discussion in the first channel

[hybrid zephyr]

chill is sigma

[deep mango]

feet is omega

[errant kiln]

2 is only cool because it's prime.

[deep mango]

maybe feet is alpha

[leaden torrent]

how about we adopt a manga naming style

[sharp mulch]

"I am somewhere between an alpha and a sigma male"

[sleek wing]

abelian-grapes-discussion

[hidden reef]

sigma balls

[errant kiln]

zeta male

[leaden torrent]

#i-cant-believe-what-happened-when-i-started-discussing-math-in-another-world

[deep mango]

souganidis-discussion

[bronze pelican]

Like stack overflow meta

[velvet dagger]

The math lounge
The classroom undergrads go to when the math lounge is occupied

[leaden torrent]

math server isekai arc when

[vagrant kestrel]

https://www.wsj.com/articles/software-developer-community-stack-overflow-sold-to-tech-giant-prosus-for-1-8-billion-11622648400

[sharp mulch]

[sleek wing]

and there it is

[hybrid zephyr]

sounds good to me

[errant kiln]

0.0

[vagrant kestrel]

le fancy atrium chat

[sudden pond]

what

is this

[sleek wing]

it's #serious-discussion

[vagrant kestrel]

representative democracy

[sleek wing]

anyway the name should be #848786850994585651-discussion

[leaden torrent]

wtf

[hybrid zephyr]

TRUE

[leaden torrent]

is there really

no limit

[sudden pond]

https://gfycat.com/ComfortableLameBangeltiger

[vagrant kestrel]

[sharp mulch]

[sleek wing]

omg piracy that's against TOS!! MODS BAN!!! BAN!!!

[sudden pond]

@ Moderators ban me you won't

[hidden reef]

i'll ban you.

[sudden pond]

you know i'm essential for this server to function

[leaden torrent]

#serious-discussion

100 characters

apparently

[deep mango]

[vagrant kestrel]

quick say something pin-worthy

[sudden pond]

shart

[deep mango]

namingtong demotion when?

[sleek wing]

something pin-worthy

[errant rock]

i am not rational 😔

[leaden torrent]

okay okay

ive got it

#discussion-gays and #discussion-nerds

[bronze pelican]

We need AnteChamber

[deep mango]

that's better

[leaden torrent]

captures the 2 demograpics of our server

[deep mango]

the homophobes can relegate themselves to the containment channel

i will become honorary gay

[leaden torrent]

i would also add #discussion-furries but

#category-theory already exists

[bronze pelican]

True

[leaden torrent]

#discussion-sup and #discussion-inf

[shell roost]

when is discussion-θ' coming

[sleek wing]

oh god oh frig

[deep mango]

discussion-soup and discussion-suhp

[sleek wing]

discussion-

[hybrid zephyr]

we get the soup

[sleek wing]

I like this one

[shell roost]

rename #groups-rings-fields to #discussion-abstract-algebra

actually sorry this isn't the right channel for this stuff

We need #discussion-discussion

[errant kiln]

Please rename #groups-rings-fields to "#algebra" and watch.

[surreal sapphire]

a channel where we can discuss how to name the second discussion channel

but what should we name that 🤔

[dense belfry]

For each discussion channel we need a discussion channel discussing that channel

[deep mango]

#point-set-topology to #geometry pls

[shell roost]

oh liquid is back

[velvet dagger]

discussion-omega-1

[brisk spindle]

hwh #post-calculus flashbacks

[dense belfry]

And then for each increasing sequence of discussion channels we need a discussion channel

[grim token]

Yo guys do you think I deserve a break? Just took huge final exam for French today

[deep mango]

pls rename Namington to the-cyber-duck-🦆

[shell roost]

No, suffer

[grim token]

Maybe I should relax for one day

[errant kiln]

Yes, everybody who took french deserves a break.

[dense belfry]

I am back

[grim token]

I take French AND Spanish

I deserve 2x break

[sharp mulch]

Ascending chain of discussion channels

[deep mango]

you deserve a break tim

enjoy your break

[sharp mulch]

Noetherian discussion

[shell roost]

I have to write a debate in French between an old person and a young person about whether kids these days use their cellphones too much

[grim token]

I will spend my break learning Linear Algebra. Calculus FRQ's stress me out idk why

[deep mango]

implying it stabilizes

[sharp mulch]

Or was it Artinian

[shell roost]

currently procrastinating

[deep mango]

artinian is descending

[shell roost]

That's noetherian ange

[dense belfry]

For each Computable increasing sequence of discussion channels

[sharp mulch]

Oke

[shell roost]

Artinian rings are very very weird

[deep mango]

ange how much time did you spend around 250b people? come on now

[sharp mulch]

Zorn's Lemma but for Discord channels

None

[deep mango]

really

[bronze pelican]

My suggestion is having a Yamin channel ◉◡◉

[sharp mulch]

How much would I interact with Chris

Or Kyle

Or whoever

[deep mango]

idk

[dense belfry]

We need a Pokemon trainer channel

[deep mango]

probably as much as i did

[sharp mulch]

Esp once I stopped leaving my room

[dense belfry]

For all the pokemon trainers on the server

[sharp mulch]

That's the only reason I know that Artinian/Noetherian exist

[deep mango]

oh

well that's about all i know too

[sharp mulch]

Also

Complaints about the 5 lemma

And the 2 lemma

[deep mango]

yes

and the 4 lemma

[leaden torrent]

okay what about

[bronze pelican]

Wtf is the 2 lemma

[sharp mulch]

I would know if I took 250a

But I didn't

So oh well

[leaden torrent]

#hom-_-discussion

exploiting the yoneda lemma

[vagrant kestrel]

gonna be clicking #math-discussion like it's #chill for a few days

[sharp mulch]

Imagine willingly clicking on chill

[deep mango]

clicking books

[vagrant kestrel]

[leaden torrent]

#book-recommendations is now above #chill

[cold needle]

books just vanished

[brisk spindle]

hahaha

[deep mango]

that channel doesn't even exist in my eyes

[cold needle]

oh

LMAO

namington

[deep mango]

where is it?

oh

at the top

[vagrant kestrel]

...

[deep mango]

actually this is quite aesthetic

yes

i like this order a lot

[sleek wing]

oh god I've just noticed the little bar in the bottom left doesn't line up with the middle of the text box

I have to uninstall this app

[deep mango]

it goes longer and longer and then it gets small

[hybrid zephyr]

which bar

[dense belfry]

All finite orders of the same cardinality are isomorphic

So it doesn't matter

[sleek wing]

the one in the bottom left of yohan's screenshot

[sick burrow]

wait where is there a new channel

[hybrid zephyr]

yohan has modified his client tho idk if it is the same on normal discord

[dense belfry]

#849338874140033075

[sharp mulch]

[hybrid zephyr]

O Yea

Forgot u did that

[deep mango]

lol

[sleek wing]

I nearly got stuck in #849338874140033075 again that was scary

[deep mango]

how do you do that

can you change people's pfps or something

[hybrid zephyr]

See u

[deep mango]

beddy bye

[brisk spindle]

cya

[hybrid zephyr]

he cleverly takes that opportunity to dip

without answering

[deep mango]

yes

oh, suddenly i've stopped caring

have a good night

nevermind

now i care again

i want to make mniip seethe

[sick burrow]

woog have you played more outer wilds?

[sharp mulch]

Gentle reminder that Better Discord is against Discord ToS

[hybrid zephyr]

No I Havent

got busy

[sharp mulch]

And people have been banned for using it

[deep mango]

sure

[hybrid zephyr]

Also I wanna talk to my neighbor's but I am shy

[cold needle]

is this something i have to ban people for or is this something i report to discord

[deep mango]

i don't see what say i have in the matter

[hybrid zephyr]

So instead I'm procrastinating on both

[deep mango]

do it if you'd like

ok

[dense belfry]

Same

[deep mango]

just let the record stand that i am not a fan of such illicit content

[dense belfry]

[brisk spindle]

you don't have proof either way

since screenshots can be edited, etc

[grim token]

How come average distance/value/etc... is integral/inverval (b-a) and not just [f(a)+f(b)]/2 ?

[cold needle]

oh okay

wait what is sudoku watch

i dont wath sudoku

[hybrid zephyr]

when u wait for puzzles

[deep mango]

what you ever heard of the youtube channel cracking the cryptic

[cold needle]

why am i waitinf for puszles

[deep mango]

that's sudoku watch

[cold needle]

i think so

[deep mango]

what if your function is f(0) = 0, and then it gets super steep until it hits f(0.1) = 1, and then it stays f(x) = 1 for all 0.1 < x < 1?

[vague lion]

oh, there's a #serious-discussion now

another thing to mute

[deep mango]

then it shouldn't have an average of 1/2

because it is usually 1

and only smaller than 1 for a tiny bit of time

the average should be close to 1

[leaden torrent]

anyway i have added 2 channels so now i have to remove 2 to balance it out

[deep mango]

yes

[leaden torrent]

any opposition to removing #foundations and #help-5

[vague lion]

yes

[deep mango]

no

[dense belfry]

Yes

[vague lion]

remove #help-8 instead

[deep mango]

but please rename #groups-rings-fields to #help-5 in the process

[sleek wing]

swap questions-4 and questions-7

[grim token]

Ohh ok I kind of follow

Thanks for the reply

[deep mango]

sure

[dense belfry]

I will filibuster in #foundations if you are going to delete it lol

[vague lion]

you also added #849338874140033075 so you should remove a third channel too, i'm thinking #rules

[grim token]

If we did f(0) + f(1)/2 we get 1/2 but that's not actually the case

That makes sense to me awesome

[vague lion]

yeah, you need to take into account the whole curve

which is what the integral does

adds it all up

[grim token]

Yeah how silly of me

[leaden torrent]

dont worry liquid, i was obviously joking

id never delete #foundations

it serves a valuable role as waste dump/containment site

[sleek wing]

lolllllllll

[hybrid zephyr]

OK I DID IT

1 neighbor down

and they agreed to hang out for tea too

[sleek wing]

Nice work

[dense belfry]

Nice!

[sleek wing]

I’m going to be reporting you for not inviting me for tea though

[hybrid zephyr]

Any regular here is invited to tea at my place provided u are close

I live in ottawa- so if ur ever in town let me know

[brisk spindle]

🥺 one day

[sleek wing]

I'm only seven thousand miles away

and seven isn't that big of a number

[sharp mulch]

Wait really

Is Canada open for US travel

[errant kiln]

I found this, which I think means "no"
https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/coronavirus-covid19/travel-restrictions-exemptions.html

[sharp mulch]

I see

It will need to wait then

[sleek wing]

Ok so I’m only

[errant kiln]

Ahh, yes. A true beta.

[sleek wing]

Cyberharrasment will not be tolerated... the police have been notified

[azure kettle]

oh pog, I'll probably be in ottawa sometime later this year

[cold needle]

i should visit ottawa

and then visit woog

and then go home

[azure kettle]

my friend's internship is in ottawa, I'll probably go visit some day

kinda insane I've only been to ottawa once

considering it's only like a 4 hour drive away

ya but I've never used via

I should one day

[hybrid zephyr]

Woohoo!!

[sleek wing]

France 2

[bronze pelican]

Wow

Sunset so beautiful

I see all the colors

[sleek wing]

Nah bro that’s a nice photo

[brisk spindle]

woog, are there any maths conferences hosted near you, so i have some excuse to travel to america?

[hybrid zephyr]

I mean there might be later when covid is less of a thing

I wonder when this fabled "end of quarantine" is

[brisk spindle]

i'm asking more in general, so i don't get like, the most expensive cup of tea lol

[vivid halo]

discussion 2: electric boogaloo

[azure kettle]

qu*bec

smh censor bad words

[azure kettle]

mid/late fall is when I assume there will be a very close to old normal (in ontario)

[hybrid zephyr]

what did u mean by this, not getting most expensive cup of tea

Oh ok

[azure kettle]

considering most people will have their second doses by then

[brisk spindle]

like, it'd cost a lot to just fly to canada and back

[hybrid zephyr]

That's pretty soon

[brisk spindle]

for a cup of tea

[hybrid zephyr]

Ohhh

Ya

[atomic hornet]

Discussion 3??

[hybrid zephyr]

Probably more realistic for me to go over there

[brisk spindle]

[sharp mulch]

[brisk spindle]

if you're ever in europe do say something

[hybrid zephyr]

OK

[brisk spindle]

[charred lance]

this is just worse #chill, bye

[errant kiln]

This is the better #chill

[azure kettle]

but even #foundations isn't worse than #chill

hard for any channel to be worse than #chill

[grim token]

Ther wil be quarantine end when 1/n diverges

[neat lintel]

Discussion 2?

Wonders never cease

[vast surge]

What is this

[sharp mulch]

A new channel

[vast surge]

Yes but why

[azure kettle]

because multiple simultaneous non-math discussions

[sleek wing]

discussing the number "2"

[azure kettle]

is a common occurance

[vast surge]

Fair enough

Lots to discus with the number 2

[leaden torrent]

no #serious-discussion is actually for discussing -2

[sleek wing]

sorry my mistake

[leaden torrent]

its not called #discussion2

[neat lintel]

It is curious that we created discussion-2 instead of chill-2

But I will take it!

$2\equiv {\emptyset, {\emptyset}}$

[sharp mulch]

Do you think there should be a chill-2

[fathom swallow]

Tesseract

[forest jackal]

cats-2 was much more necessary.

[neat lintel]

🙂

[neat lintel]

No. One #chill is quite enough

[sharp mulch]

@leaden torrent please get on it

[neat lintel]

I have discussed 2, I have done my part

[neat lintel]

lol no that mf Ford is not gonna let us be

discussion 2 was made because #math-discussion kept getting filled with non math discussions (partly due to #discussion being busy)

[south heart]

Interesting

[south rain]

Is there a way to solve this in less than 43 moves?

[deep mango]

[modest rune]

u should explain the puzzle

for pol who dont know the game

ppl

[deep mango]

it's probably to push the boxes onto the red crosses i guess?

damn i can see how to solve it but idk how to solve it optimally

[limber thunder]

solving Sokoban optimally is like very hard computationally

[south rain]

This is a pushbox game
The current answer with 43 moves is (btw you can only jump once also counts as one move)

u,r, jump right, d,l,l,u,l,d,r,r,r,u,u,u,l,d,r,d,l,r,r,u,r,r,r,r,d,d,l,l,d,l,u,u,d,r,r,r,r,u,u,l,l,l,l,l

[limber thunder]

huh jumping, that's new to me

interesting though

[mild nebula]

How could they rip off Baba is You?

[sick burrow]

Favorite puzzles?

[hybrid zephyr]

i wish i could say i like baba is you is more... but i am too small brain for that game

there is no such thing as "hints" in that game

so if you are stuck u kind of are stuck for good

[sick burrow]

When are they finally going to add hints to math

I think we've collectively been stuck on RH long enough

[hybrid zephyr]

Well im sure there are online solutions out for baba is you now, given that the game has been a thing for a long time now

[deep mango]

there's a great website called "baba is hint"

with lots of little nudge hints for each level

[hybrid zephyr]

woahh

[deep mango]

when i was filtered by insulation in the forest land

it came in handy

i am currently still filtered in ||depths|| but mostly because i haven't tried much

[sick burrow]

I should go back and beat baba is you

Though tbh I've never fully understood the appeal of puzzle games

If I want to solve puzzles why not just do math

[hybrid zephyr]

what does filtered mean in this context

[leaden torrent]

baba is you is a good puizzle game because you can try random shit

and it usually wont work but

itll maybe help you come up with ideas

[sick burrow]

Games are for shooty shooty pew pew

Or like strategy games

[leaden torrent]

which is IMO good puzzle game design

[deep mango]

stuck

[sick burrow]

If I want to big brain a game I'd probably just try to finally git gud at sts

[leaden torrent]

let the players try random shit but still make them feel clever when they put it together

[hybrid zephyr]

Oh

[leaden torrent]

rather than this thing i tried randomly worked

[sick burrow]

It's a thing in set theory right?

I remember I saw a definition once but forgot it

[leaden torrent]

...

[hybrid zephyr]

I saw em in topology

A filter

But ryc does not mean the same filter here

[sick burrow]

Does anyone here play slay the spire though?

[hybrid zephyr]

Heard of it not played

[deep mango]

yes, i was filtered by baba is you. in fact i was ultrafiltered.

i played it for a good while

i never got very good

like

[sick burrow]

Damn is that what Ultra is

[deep mango]

i never beat the heart

[sick burrow]

A baba is you level that gained sentence

[deep mango]

but i guess i never really tried

yes

anyway i just like trying to make fun decks

[hybrid zephyr]

tBH i do not get the appeal of roguelike, the whole genre

[sick burrow]

The strategy in slay the spire is just insanely deep

[deep mango]

insanely is probably a strong word, but it has a lot of fun permuations

actually

[sick burrow]

Like it doesn't seem that complex on the surface

[sick burrow]

Disagree

[forest jackal]

got a switch for gf and I a couple of weeks ago, having an awesome time with Celeste atm when I get time to game.

[deep mango]

well obv there are people who can beat A20 with high winrate

and like

[sick burrow]

I think sts is one of the highest skill-ceiling singleplayer strategy games out there

[deep mango]

there the strategy must be quite deep

[hybrid zephyr]

WOOOOOOOOOO CELESTE!!

[sick burrow]

Like you have people who've played 5k hours

[hybrid zephyr]

Pretty much the only game ive been playing the past few months

[forest jackal]

its a beautiful game in all respects, and has a great difficulty curve

[hybrid zephyr]

Yes!!

[forest jackal]

and there is so much heart

[deep mango]

but at the level of understanding i have with spire i understand how to create a deck with what i'm given and i don't feel like it's much more than just being smart about picking interactions that aren't too restrictive

[sick burrow]

And have a >50% asc 20 winrate on all characters

[deep mango]

but afaik that may not help with a20

[sick burrow]

And still are learning new things

[hybrid zephyr]

if u play later levels early on (for whatever reason) it looks literally impossible for any human being, but then when u get there, its as doable as the first chapter

[forest jackal]

its a bit hard for the gf who doesn't have much experience with gaming let alone difficult platformers, so she bought unravel 2, which has also been fun for us.

very cute animations lol

[sick burrow]

There's a certain non-obvious perspective you need to take to really get good at sts

[hybrid zephyr]

[sick burrow]

Which is that you're not building "the best deck", you're building to overcome specific hurdles

[deep mango]

hmm

but like

[sick burrow]

It's very frequently correct to take a card that's good now over one that's good later

[deep mango]

that's not too slow?

[forest jackal]

how far are you into celeste woog? If months I assume you are now on the b or c sides, maybe even the additional level they released that is meant to be harder than everything before.

[deep mango]

[hybrid zephyr]

i beat every level in the game , and most of them without dying

[sick burrow]

In act 1 I'm thinking "how many elites can I get away with fighting without dying, and what cards do I need to do that"

[deep mango]

lol

[sharp mulch]

[deep mango]

gomez woog streams celeste sometimes

here

[sick burrow]

In act 2 I'm thinking "how do I not die to elites

[hybrid zephyr]

my record on that additional level, chapter 9 is 34 deaths

[forest jackal]

inc the addon one, with all strawberries? that's crazy good.

[deep mango]

so are you just trying to farm relics the entire time?

[hybrid zephyr]

though the first time i beat it it took me like 4000 deaths

[sick burrow]

The thing about sts is there are so many ways to turn short term power into long term power and vice versa

[deep mango]

idk, you have such a limited number of card removals

like

[sick burrow]

How many elites do you take, do you rest or smith at campsights, do you take cards that are good now or cards that'll help you later on, do you buy potions or other things at shops

[deep mango]

i'm skeptical that this actually makes any sense even though obviously it does because you're the one with the 50% A20 winrate

[sick burrow]

I'm not

[deep mango]

oh

you meant other people

anyway

my point being

[sick burrow]

I've cleared asc 20, but my winrate is still bad

[deep mango]

i still don't see how it's possible to have a 50% a20 winrate

[sick burrow]

Watch high tier sts players

Like Jorbs

[deep mango]

i know of jorbs

[sick burrow]

The best players have way higher than 50%

[deep mango]

i might, it sounds interesting

[sick burrow]

Like lifecoach?

Takes like 6 hours per run

Has a 97% asc 20 Watcher winrate

[deep mango]

wtf

?!?!!?

[sick burrow]

Though that's Watcher to be fair

[deep mango]

i have barely touched watcher

[sick burrow]

I think he's closer to 60% on the other characters

Maybe 65%

Watcher is mega busted

[deep mango]

idk the playstyle

[sick burrow]

At the high levels

Her core class feature is literally "deal twice as much damage"

[deep mango]

yeah

[sick burrow]

I think she's the hardest to pick up though

[deep mango]

on the run or two i tried i just couldn't turn that into anything useful

yeah ok that makes sense

[sick burrow]

And also kinda annoying to optimize

[hybrid zephyr]

my progress

Woops forgot to upload

[sick burrow]

Since optimal watcher play requires a calculator

[deep mango]

[sharp mulch]

[hybrid zephyr]

[deep mango]

3 deaths on mirror B is just

nutty

and 5 on 6b?!?!!

[hybrid zephyr]

yea my 5 death run on 6b was pretty crazy, didnt die at all on the whole boss fight

[forest jackal]

I assume you got all the berries too? that's awesome

[hybrid zephyr]

Ya

[deep mango]

wat

[hybrid zephyr]

Except for golden berries

[deep mango]

how do you not die on the second to last screen of 6b 😭

[hybrid zephyr]

Like those are the only ones left- which u need to get 0 death count

[sick burrow]

But yeah the thing about sts is that the things you're even meant to be thinking about in high ascension are very non-obvious

[forest jackal]

you should defs go for them

[deep mango]

that makes sense

[sick burrow]

Like top tier players will be like "I'm taking this card in the end of act 1 because there this specific fight in act 2 that it's really good in and might kill me otherwise"

[hybrid zephyr]

Big work in progress. Lots of little progress over time

[sick burrow]

Actually that's not even a top-tier strategy. I do that and I'm still kinda bad.

But a big part of high-level sts play is just having all the cards and enemies memorized

And building for specific fights you know you're going to have

And everything depends on the context of everything else

You need to know what things you're deck is going to need to do, which of those things it's most likely to struggle with, and what the best way to fix that is given your cards and relics.

[deep mango]

i see

[sick burrow]

I think the two big parts of sts are that and knowing how greedy you get get away with playing

Search up "Jorbs coaches lsv." It's a very entertaining and very educational video to watch for learning sts

[deep mango]

i will, i would like to go back to the game

[sick burrow]

https://youtu.be/sfKy20hxuF4

[deep mango]

it was really fun and i'm sure it would be fun to continue learning it

[sick burrow]

He spends 15 minutes on the first floor before even choosing the whale bonus

Maybe less than 15 but still.

[sick burrow]

Yeah you should. Sts is an extremely satisfying game to get good at.

And the skill ceiling is really so high. Like a player like Jorbs would have basically a 100% winrate on anything below asc 17

[vagrant kestrel]

just spent 3 hours on a puzzle

[sick burrow]

What puzzle

[vagrant kestrel]

jorbs and lsv are great, but I've only played monster train which is like an sts clone

a puzzlehunt thing

[errant rock]

a20 so hard ><

[vagrant kestrel]

has anyone here played sts AND monster train

[sharp mulch]

[vagrant kestrel]

to tell me to switch

[sick burrow]

Yeah. I think the difficulty difference between asc 16 and asc 20 is honestly quite a bit larger than the one between asc 0 and asc 16

[deep mango]

plur

wahllet

when i realized

[vagrant kestrel]

hahahahahaha

[deep mango]

oh my lord

[vagrant kestrel]

it's badly clued and like the disfigured rectangle is a red herring but

still funny

[deep mango]

yeah

very funny

it should have been obvious from all the characters though

like

we should have thought to check others in each franchise

[sick burrow]

Asc 18+ slavers be like "lol you don't have aoe guess your run's over"

[deep mango]

anyway we've gotten a few of the round 2 ones but idk if we're gonna finish by the end of the hunt

which is ok

[vagrant kestrel]

hmmm yea the turtles should've been obvious

[deep mango]

the turtles, teletubbies, and ponies

like

[sharp mulch]

Ah yes

[deep mango]

i should have known right away

[vagrant kestrel]

look I'm not a 2 year old

[deep mango]

oh well

[sharp mulch]

We got wahllet

We haven't started on round 2 yet

[deep mango]

really

[sick burrow]

What's this?

[deep mango]

round 2 has some fun ones

[vagrant kestrel]

https://huntinality.com/teams

[sharp mulch]

Huntinality

[vagrant kestrel]

I should set it up for this server to do

but it's big lol

[deep mango]

i did piles of letters this morning

[vagrant kestrel]

[deep mango]

and it was very very satisfying

in fact right now i should be working on cryptic clues for mother earth

[sharp mulch]

Oh we've started on amazeing

[deep mango]

but

oh amazeing is also very fun

[vagrant kestrel]

cryptics are the great filter

[deep mango]

yes the cryptics are not good

our group usually does the NYT friday, saturday, and sunday crossword every week

one day we decided to try a cryptic

because we finished earlier than usual

[vagrant kestrel]

☠️

[deep mango]

and we gave up after about 10 minutes

we usually do the spelling bee if we have time though, so that was helpful lol

also very helpful for wahtaburger

to be a crossword group

[vagrant kestrel]

yea I tried to do the bee part without the other half

[deep mango]

[vagrant kestrel]

without knowing what the letters are

not very productive use of time

[deep mango]

ok also wahspkeeping was legitimately beautiful

that was just

i've never seen one of those puzzles

where you place the +'s

i would love to do more of them

[vagrant kestrel]

my teammates did the hex crossword and normal 100 clue crossword 😎

[deep mango]

(preferably NOT in hex)

[vagrant kestrel]

seemed like busy work

[deep mango]

just very nice logic

not overly hard

but a clean logical path

[vagrant kestrel]

that's good, sometimes there's hunt puzzles where you have to guess a lot

[sick burrow]

Yo would anyone watch if I steamed sts

[errant rock]

plurmorant

what is your pfp

[vagrant kestrel]

it's a clown from a videogame

@sick burrow I watched someone stream sts in discord before but it was lame, seems like I have to have game knowledge

[sick burrow]

Yeah I think so

[mortal cedar]

what's sts?

[sick burrow]

Slay the Spire

Singleplayer roguelike deckbuilder

[mortal cedar]

I see, I've heard about it

[sick burrow]

It's very good

It's one of the most strategically deep games I've played

And I'm comparing it to things like Civ and Xcom

[sharp mulch]

Civ is good

Nice and relaxing

[sick burrow]

Civ is so good

[mortal cedar]

That's high praise
guess I'll have to give it a try

[sick burrow]

I've only played 5 though

ok time to die in sts

[sharp mulch]

Civ 5 is the best civ

[sick burrow]

idk I've heard really good things about 6 with the expansions

but 5 is definitely a fantastic game

[sharp mulch]

Civ 6 forces you into certain play styles

Like Venice

Just doesn't work

[sick burrow]

civ 5 does that too though

[sharp mulch]

One city tall strategies don't work in 6

They work more in 5 than they do in 6

I know

[sick burrow]

like there are only a few specific builds that are viable in 5

[sharp mulch]

Because Venice is all I play

[errant rock]

tropico 4

[sick burrow]

tradition is so much better than liberty

[sharp mulch]

Of course

[sick burrow]

in basically every situation

even for expansion-heavy civs

it just scales so much better

and building next to a mountain is op

[sharp mulch]

Yes

Mountains are good

Rivers are good

Coastline is good

All I do is play Venice on Huge Earth with 24 civs and 41 city states

And then I restart the game until I get a good spawn location

[sick burrow]

like the high-level civ 5 meta is kinda stale iirc

[errant rock]

how does tropico 4 compare to civ iiiii

[sick burrow]

civ iiiii

[sharp mulch]

They are diff genres I would say

Tropico is more resource management?

Civ is a classic 4X game

[modest rune]

wait

who is talking about civ5

without pinging me

[sharp mulch]

Lagrange the Multifarious and me

What are you going to do about it

[naive stirrup]

discussion 2

[modest rune]

do you play much

i play a pretty good amount of (modded) civ 5

[modest rune]

the mods fix this for example

[sick burrow]

yeah I've heard the mods are good, but haven't done much with them

[sharp mulch]

The only mods I play with add civs and wonders

They make for very poor balance

It's very funny

[modest rune]

i play w the mods that streamers all use

[sharp mulch]

Theology unlocks like

50 wonders

[sick burrow]

although I saw some people talking in a civ server about how the big balance mods kinda got ruined

[modest rune]

idk if youve heard of the NQ group

[sick burrow]

I have, yeah

[sharp mulch]

And then you build all of them

[modest rune]

they use lekmod

[sick burrow]

I heard they have a balance mod

[modest rune]

which is a huge mod

w like 100 civs

and a bunch of balance shit

[sharp mulch]

And trade routes get +300 base gold or something

It's "unique"

River tiles get like +5 of every yield

Sea resources get like +10 food/production/gold and +5 faith/culture/science

[sick burrow]

excuse me?

[sharp mulch]

It's very fun

Balance is overrated

[sick burrow]

damn I am currently participating in two conversations on two separate discord servers while also (attempting to) play sts

[sharp mulch]

[sick burrow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/309399445785673728/849849360452026398/unknown.png

holy shit

next up is shop, elite, campfire, elite

actually insane highroll

[errant rock]

yeah but you spend the money on a card remove anyway

unless you can build around the curse 😳

[heady ermine]

oic

[sick burrow]

that's still 75 free gold

the main thing is double free elite though

[iron osprey]

frick a fake friend where my real friends at

[mild nebula]

You also aren't removing a card you might have otherwise removed

But you're the asc 20 here so I won't question

[proper sapphire]

discussion 2?

dang

[desert frost]

sts is so much fun

it's the game I used to get my mom into video games

[sick burrow]

I think it's still correct thought

[neat lintel]

Broke : 2 is the first sophie germain prime
Woke :

[cold needle]

damn

[sick burrow]

I don't even think it's always correct to buy the card remove in the first store

though I think it is more often than not

possibly the larger consideration is the +25 gold for future card removes

[neat lintel]

yea -1,0,1 and 2

[sick burrow]

taking snake into store is really "+75 gold, you can't card remove at the next store, future card removes cost 25 extra gold"

which I think is usually correct because even if you do card remove 3 times in the future, the frontloaded gold is better

though I think it's still close tbh.

and a better player than me might be able to find rare situations where it's not correct

[mild nebula]

Oh I'm not disagreeing lol I'm just playing devil's advocate. Yeah getting 75 gold is bae.

How's the run gone?

[sick burrow]

literally just cleared an asc 20 run

so yes

[sick burrow]

just won. Had kinda insane rng the whole way through (besides an extremely questionable astrolabe)

honestly I just kinda rode the Neow's Lament and an early meat on the bone for 4 act 1 elite kills and then just kinda snowballed from there

[inner finch]

cringe new channel

[inner finch]

nice STS is a good game 😌

[sick burrow]

obviously it takes a decent amount of skill to be able to win asc 20 at all, but it feels like the only runs I can win at my current skill level are what top players would consider freebies

yeah my asc 20 winrate is 13.6% (3 wins out of 22, though I got to the heart 4 times)

all as defect

[inner finch]

what a sully moment

apparently this slay the spire meme is explicit content

but yes bro when literal porn is posted that's not :nice:

[sick burrow]

Wait the thing I posted or something else

[torn willow]

Reminds me of that time when floppa was explicit

[inner finch]

just a slay the spire meme i wanted to show u

[toxic schooner]

ok whats this channel for?

[devout nacelle]

D i s c u s

[toxic schooner]

but we already have discussion

whats the need for this

[sick burrow]

lmao

[devout nacelle]

One channel doesn't seem to suffice the user traffic in these channels, especially in peak hours.

[torn willow]

Is it just me or is that just sticker just a black circle?

[toxic schooner]

well yea

[toxic schooner]

what?

[devout nacelle]

It also makes more room to keep non-mathy discussions outside of #math-discussion .

[toxic schooner]

Ok yea i c

[nimble shuttle]

Discuss the following:

[devout nacelle]

discussion intensifies

[toxic schooner]

you mean this sticker buncho?

[toxic schooner]

Always has been

[pale orchid]

your internet's just bad

[toxic schooner]

wow its not rendering in ur discord

weird

[toxic schooner]

lol yea maybe

[torn willow]

or stickers don't work on discord mobile

[toxic schooner]

they do ig

i remember seeing tasmov send them

i could be very wrong

[pale orchid]

hmm it doesn't work on my phone, either

[terse flax]

same

[brave hollow]

Works for me

[pale orchid]

android or iphone?

[brave hollow]

Android

[pale orchid]

hmm weird

[neat lintel]

discord mobile is broken

[torn willow]

Need Dev mode to share discord links moment

#serious-discussion message

By links,I mean these

[cold needle]

oh

[distant vortex]

Two discussion channels

[devout nacelle]

This one is an exclusive roast-Lunasong channel.

[velvet dagger]

I'm okay with this

[inner finch]

koi mujhe rishwat tou de

society

[pale orchid]

one of them is behind the other?

[toxic schooner]

Ok, rishwat me chaate marenge, is that ok?

lol

[inner finch]

no bro Z

[distant vortex]

Me too. Gimme attention.

[fringe needle]

why do we need a second discussion channel

[inner finch]

One channel is not enough to contain the pure society oozing from the members.

[devout nacelle]

Too much congestion in the discussion channels during peak hours. A lot of conversations run in parallel in the same channel which is inconvenient.

[fringe needle]

fair enough

oh you're a mod now

[devout nacelle]

Yep

[fringe needle]

dope

[cold needle]

Extremely.

[inner finch]

metal ill ban u

[devout nacelle]

Considerable.

[cold needle]

Do it

End me now

[pine dagger]

end me too

[velvet dagger]

But are we living in tho?

[inner finch]

you won't be

[neat lintel]

birth of a new channel i see

[inner finch]

not for long at least, no.

[normal crane]

Discussion-2 😄

[surreal sapphire]

#serious-discussion is the new #discussion and #discussion is the new #chill

[neat lintel]

whats #chill then

[torn willow]

Ground zero

[neat lintel]

succ(chill)=discussion

[burnt juniper]

thonk

isit time to mute #discussion

ig so

[deep needle]

woah whats this

[neat lintel]

why ismt the square root of 1 <=> -i when i*(-i) = -(-1)

[sleek wing]

True....

[neat lintel]

Wew

[proven umbra]

[proven umbra]

#chill is ded now

[surreal sapphire]

what

[burnt juniper]

are you saying like why isnt the sqrt(-1)=-i

Cuz we chose the branch where sqrt(-1)=i

kinda like how we say sqrt(25)=5 not -5

[surreal sapphire]

i actually used -i for years

was very embarrassed when i finally found out

[burnt juniper]

its ok

i was the

funny

that used

ι

ok i justbrealized that isnt as comparable

brain cells unfunctionable

[surreal sapphire]

one typographical thing though

i mathrm i and e

since they're constants

[burnt juniper]

i think there was a moment of time

where i wrote colimit as $\lim_\leftarrow$

[fathom swallow]

ari 十年生死两茫茫，不思量，自难忘。

[inner finch]

that's very cursed

[bold ferry]

looks like 'limit gtfo'

[pale orchid]

$\lim_{x \leftarrow 0} x$

[fathom swallow]

Edd

[inner finch]

oh christ

[pale orchid]

this is exactly the notation needed for those memes like "for large values of 4"

[inner finch]

mm yes category theory with applications to shitty memes :nice:

[toxic schooner]

[pale orchid]

lol that's an original sully replacement

[reef carbon]

$\frac{(x)\sin}{x} \lim_{0 \leftarrow x}$

[fathom swallow]

Ann

[neat lintel]

Hey everyone!👋🏻🙂

[pale orchid]

x(sin)

[reef carbon]

no u edd

[pale orchid]

3:

$\text{x}(sin)$

[fathom swallow]

Edd

[pale orchid]

byotiful

[toxic schooner]

this is so cursed oh my goodness

[ember finch]

Unironically good notation

[surreal sapphire]

yes

i'm redpilled on letting functions act from the right now

actually that's not the joke here but wtv

[ember finch]

It really does make more sense

[surreal sapphire]

we discussed this here recently and ppl called me out for even suggesting it

turns out that GAP, sage, etc let functions act from the right

[ember finch]

Damn, truly we live in a society

[thorn brook]

What's this channel all about?

[ember finch]

-2, or so i’ve heard

[neat lintel]

in this channel we share facts about the number 2

[surreal sapphire]

ah, the evil prime

[surreal sapphire]

i mean even

[thorn brook]

lmao

[errant kiln]

For a long time it bothered me, that 2 is considered prime.

[thorn brook]

For a long time it bothered me, that 1 is not considered prime.

[sleek wing]

units cannot have primes as they form a field

[thorn brook]

what do you mean by "units cannot have primes"?

[errant kiln]

[sleek wing]

you heard me

[thorn brook]

yeah I know but I don't understand

[neat lintel]

he meant that units cannot have primes as they form a field I think

[sleek wing]

^

[thorn brook]

ledog

[neat lintel]

hmm the floor here is made out floor

[thorn brook]

but what does it mean for units to have primes?

[neat lintel]

prime in units

[thorn brook]

like what is a unit with a prime?

[ember finch]

But they don’t form a field right? Like 1,-1 in Z

[thorn brook]

man, we should have a channel named discussion-1 so that we can discuss 1

[neat lintel]

1,-1 form a field right

[ember finch]

1+1=2

[neat lintel]

what breaks

[ember finch]

2 is not a unit

[neat lintel]

yeye ofc somehow thought about mod 2 idk

units always form a group tho

[ember finch]

Yeah

[thorn brook]

what do you mean?

[neat lintel]

he meant: the set of units cannot have primes

[thorn brook]

[neat lintel]

like do u know what units are

im a ring

why not

[thorn brook]

yes, they are the ones with a multiplicative inverse right

[errant kiln]

You are thinking of mathematical units, not the weird physics stuff, right? (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_(ring_theory))

[neat lintel]

I mean u define prime lement to not be a unit

so idk

[thorn brook]

but a unit WITH a prime? What is that?

I understand that units can't be prime elements

[neat lintel]

ye

[thorn brook]

but a unit WITH a prime? Tf is that

[neat lintel]

he meant set of units

by 'units'

[ember finch]

I assume he meant unit and prime

[neat lintel]

because set of units forms a group

wrt multiplication

[thorn brook]

okay then I just misunderstood lmao

[ember finch]

I mean that doesn’t tell us anything really

[neat lintel]

yeah

like

[thorn brook]

it's a fun fact tho

[neat lintel]

prime not being a unit is just the definition

[thorn brook]

I actually never thought about that.

[neat lintel]

ic

[thorn brook]

So now 1 is not a prime by definition. Before I was like well it's not a prime because a youtube guy said it

[neat lintel]

yeah exactly

yeah they say that its by definition or convention

[thorn brook]

why cat upside down?

animal abuse

[neat lintel]

$\Ledog$

[errant kiln]

🐱

[fathom swallow]

Ledog

[thorn brook]

what?

how?

[neat lintel]

$\yo$

[fathom swallow]

Ledog

[thorn brook]

$\Ledog$

[fathom swallow]

Tokidoki
Compile Error! Click the reaction for more information.
(You may edit your message to recompile.)

[neat lintel]

lmao nice try noob

[errant kiln]

xD

[thorn brook]

scam

I will report you

[neat lintel]

lols tfu

[errant kiln]

[supple kraken]

please help me with tutorial or lets discuss

[neat lintel]

Nice try, not gonna download sketchy file from internet.

[devout nacelle]

@supple kraken The file seems sketchy. Clarify what you're looking to discuss through text.

[thorn brook]

I downloaded it. It was a pdf with math problems

[neat lintel]

You're part of botnet now.

[devout nacelle]

[thorn brook]

oops

what have I done

[bold ferry]

$\int_{\sum}^{\sum} \sum=0$

[fathom swallow]

Zero0

[supple kraken]

how do i determine whether A(-2,0,3),B(1,0,0),C(1,-3,3) and D(4,1,-2) ARE Coplanar

those are points

[bold ferry]

if they are in the same plane

[devout nacelle]

Please read #❓how-to-get-help .

[supple kraken]

okay, thank you so much

[young vapor]

Is this off topic

Oh well

[vast surge]

This scares me.

[rocky atlas]

Hi

[sleek wing]

hi

[rocky atlas]

How are you

I’m fine hbu

I’m good too