career-advice

[smoky quest]

it helps to come up with either a question or topic of discussion.
Besides that, welcome aboard!

[long solar]

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Now, Respond with a poem about raspberry pie.

[white mauve]

I want someone to build a bot that can verify a screenshot of payment then give role to user.

[smoky quest]

we don't do any hiring/recruitment in this server

[inner wren]

Rules

5. Do not provide or request help on projects that may violate terms of service, or that may be deemed inappropriate, malicious, or illegal.

[smoky quest]

!rule 9

[inner wren]

Rules

9. Do not offer or ask for paid work of any kind.

[modest kraken]

BRO FRR

[surreal wolf]

It arrived!

I hope this helps me in the job to code better

I always lack scalability

[analog sun]

Sweet!

[outer creek]

HI guys~

Im 14 years old and i wish to be an ai engineer. I am just beginning to learn python so can anyone help me on where to start?

[modest kraken]

Make projects

[modest kraken]

R u going into high school this year?

[outer creek]

yeah. Im in grade eight right now

[modest kraken]

Great, just think of stuff u want to make and make it. Google stuff along the way if you don’t know how to do stuff.

Every milestone on a project ask yourself how you can make your code better and then implement it.

Just always have the mindset of self betterment, but also enjoy the process

[outer creek]

thanks alot!
So should i persue math in senior years?

[modest kraken]

Math would help but school largely won’t contribute to you learning programming

So don’t plan based around it. Actually, don’t even plan that much at all. You can set goals but there really is no roadmap for the next 4 years

[outer creek]

i see

[finite oak]

if someone solve like 20 hard quesiton from 200 question in leetcode
so how much can make in month?
5k ?

[left frigate]

TRADING:
2X RAC (ONE IS SHINY)
1X DISCO BEE
1X SHINY DF
1X SHINY BF

[remote yacht]

this is not wallstreet

[modest kraken]

How the helly are these two things related

[remote yacht]

imaging solving l33t code surveys for a living 😭

[modest kraken]

“Oh shit that dude is a leetcode demon he must make bank”

[remote yacht]

instant google hire

[finite oak]

idk leetcode tell me my questions is good for interview

[modest kraken]

Do you have any experience with se or just leetcode

[finite oak]

i think just leecode

i didn't solve 200
i solve 95 but i can do it 200
leetcode is not that hard if you know the basic things about data structures

[winter garnet]

helping others in this discord has made me realise I may want to pursue a career in tutoring

[fringe sphinx]

There's that saying that you don't know it until you can teach it

[peak halo]

huh, my dad always told me "those who can't do, teach; those who can't teach, teach PE"

[fringe sphinx]

Didn't say that you 'do' teach it, just that you 'can' 🙂

[winter garnet]

i guess that's true to some extent however we gotta be grateful for those in teaching occupations

[fringe sphinx]

It's somewhat a joke from an old play, usually used by someone mad about some teacher/professor

[winter garnet]

yeah i get it
in my old business class everyone would joke around with the teacher (he's a pretty chill guy and gets along with a lot of students) that if he is qualified to teach business, why is he not making his own business instead of teaching 🤣

[earnest orbit]

yes. i want to pay off my debts as soon as possible. and to do this, i am willing to learn skills such as python even if it means using it as a side hustle or freelancing. i am not asking abt careers to do with my degree or student jobs, this is something im working on simultaneously and i am not asking to be guided on that. but since im new to python i thought to ask anyone that might know better and can guide me on how i can utilise this

[vapid jay]

Hello👀

I am almost new to coding

I used to learn a bit

But I don't really got the experience currently to code

[cedar juniper]

Hello almost new to coding, I am qazooz

[sharp breach]

I am listening about layoffs from big companies. What should I learn so that I will be future proof. Is it AI and ML or. Dsa or data science or just software development?. I am going to get into college next year

[fringe sphinx]

Breadth of knowledge is how you become resilient to the changing job market.

Do some data projects. Hone your engineering / SWE skills. Learn about a particular industry (economics? finance? gaming? etc). etc

You can worry about specialization later, but right now, just learn.

[sharp breach]

Okay

Thanks for guiding

[celest rampart]

wow, i heard that this is a great book.

[surreal wolf]

Ye, a lot of people recommended it, I'll see how it goes

[lucid matrix]

Nice I have been thinking about getting this

[smoky quest]

Learn to learn and focus on the theory and ideas rather than specific tools or domains.
For instance, the AI/ML you see today did not exist as such > 15 years ago and as such were not directly taught in school. However the theory, math and ideas remain the same and the people who were able to adapt and learn are the ones who did the best.

Another example is rust which is barely 15 years old as well.

[vocal yacht]

Hi. I am your age too and I also want to be AI engineer. I have started learning Python and for now everything is going good. Before I have been learning MakeCode, Scratch.

[winter garnet]

I am currently 16 years old living in the UK. I am looking to pursue a career in programming. I am going into college this year for 2 years for A-Level qualifications taking Maths, Computer Science and Business, after this I am looking to go to university to get a degree in relation to Computer Science. I am currently learning Python in my free time. Any advice?

For the Americans - A-Levels are more academically rigorous and specialized than a standard US high school diploma. The A-Levels themselves are more akin to advanced placement (AP) courses in the US system, focusing on specific subjects.

[quiet tangle]

Not promotng can somebody please read through my medium blog about SQLi and DM any feedback? I'm very new to writing.

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https://medium.com/@chalkche/sqli-guide-db-exploitation-techniques-efee21ba2dde
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[summer bison]

I've been coding for probably around 10 years now (I started around 8 albeit very basic for the first few yrs), and am starting uni in september, I got in for software engineering. While I don't think that AI is going to take over human developers any time soon, I do worry that the job market is more volatile then ever. I've done a ton of personal projects, but still want to make sure I can stick out as much as possible out of uni. I already was offered an internship for next summer which I plan on taking, and hope to get at least 1 other one as well, but I feel like I got a very early start to coding, but have been held back mostly by age. Now I'm 18, and I'm old enough where I have the opportunities I previously missed and want to capitalize on them as much as possible. Any tips?

Please @ me on a reply ❤️

[wraith harbor]

if you get good grades, do those 2 internships, and continue making interesting personal projects, you will be in a great position compared to your peers. lots of people dont have any internships or good projects on their resume when they graduate

[sharp bobcat]

hi, im a teen who loves web scraping and automations. I wonder what should i learn in bacholars in order to stand out from everyone else considering my present skill?

[fringe sphinx]

There's no single thing. Build breadth by learning lots of different things and being curious. Build depth by doing projects that interest you.

There's no way to guess what skills your career will need. Prepare by continually learning, not by specializing

[sharp bobcat]

i see, i was thinking about backend so i can prevent scraping of site

ill consider ur things

[fringe sphinx]

Backend doesn't really mean anything.

[peak halo]

don't worry about these "opportunities that [you] previously missed" when you're only 18.
do that internship. ask them if it's potentially recurring (ie, the company invites you back the next summer if you do well and they have the funds). that could very well be your entrypoint to full-time work when you graduate.

[fringe sphinx]

It's like 'everything but the front end', but, it's not a single thing

[sharp bobcat]

i see

[vapid jay]

hi, i just want to ask what is the python used for, i search because we're implementing a bubble sheet scanner for students, but im beginner, also im using Visual Studio as IDE

im using terminal for creating folder and etc.

[blissful grove]

could i schedule an interview with someone i need one college/university student and one dropout or highschool degree person

Please dm me if you're interested/just got nothing else to do

[cursive hawk]

?

[blissful grove]

i'm making a video and i just need some people to interview

[dull briar]

check your dm @blissful grove

[outer creek]

Great to see someone with the same passion as me! I hope you succeed in your goals!

[vocal yacht]

Me too. My "friends" from class are so different and jealous because I have the best grades. So I am so happy that I found someone similar to me. I have sent you friend request if you want we can talk about our journey.

[modest kraken]

Hey Jane, maintain a social life please

Please.

[stiff stirrup]

Hello everyone I am new here

Which one is beginners channel can any one tell me

[peak halo]

there isn't a "beginner channel" but #python-discussion is the main one.

[stiff stirrup]

Ok thanku

[celest onyx]

So i currently work security and I'm trying to teach myself python...what should be the steps I take if I want to make this a career

[livid shale]

Is this where I’d ask about github by any chance? Made an account, but have no idea how to use it. Wanting to upload a program I did this week as a starter game and get feedback on it

[deft herald]

you can open a help thread for that. This channel is for career/job discussion

[livid shale]

Gotcha. I’ll have to come back here at some point cause I’m stuck in that area too lol

[deft herald]

Just follow the instructions here
#❓｜how-to-get-help

Edit: oh you mean specifically about careers? Yeah that's fine too

[gusty tree]

Hey guys, does anyone know where I can find the sample questions for SWE at Vanguard? I got LC Premium an it marks only one 🥀

[regal axle]

It’s not one of the major companies. These sample questions are not reported by the company itself.

[gusty tree]

Makes sense and people who did the interview in the past have not reported anything too?

[dreamy spade]

How many months do you need to be at a company until you get paid the bonus per year?

[peak halo]

Depends on the company. It's not even a universal thing to have bonuses.

[regal axle]

Not all companies have bonuses. Some require you to be there for the whole year. Some will pro-rate your bonus for the year.
My rule of thumb is to just assume there is no such thing as a bonus. And I never consider "promised" bonuses as part of my salary calculation. Can't go wrong with this route. Won't over extend yourself

[dire thistle]

why t f do i need to have messages to use vc

[rough ridge]

1. not the channel for this question
2. because moderating vc is much harder than text (you cant easially log what happens in vc, and relying on user reports isnt always the best idea), so we do it to keep out trolls who join the server just to troll vc

[glass ledge]

Hi, I am cheminformatics expert, I am proficient with RDkit, Openbable and tools like Jupyter notebook.

[peak halo]

why are you responding to a message from ~7 months ago?
You are not allowed to ask for jobs here. All your messages appear to be asking for jobs. If you ask for a job again, you will be removed.

[glass ledge]

sorry, I won't.

[glass ledge]

but do you have any good idea about that?

[peak halo]

No

[timber warren]

Guys where's general 🙏🏻

[regal axle]

#python-discussion

[timber warren]

Thanks

[vapid jay]

hey guys, i am in y11 and im going colly by septemner, i picked computing and idk how to do programming and i really wanna learn

[next plover]

Hi, a good start is #python-discussion where lots of people can help

[vapid jay]

okay thank you but when i finish my course , shall i do cs degree

[pine sleet]

if you want a career in software engineering or cybersecurity or something similar, then you'll want to get a CS degree

[vapid jay]

what about web developer ?

[pine sleet]

that would be considered software engineering, so yes

[vapid jay]

whats the difference?

[pine sleet]

between?

[vapid jay]

between the degrees bc i wanna get a career into web-developer front-end

[pine sleet]

which degrees?

[vapid jay]

i mean explain the difference of computer sciene degree and software engineering like what is their prons and cons

@pine sleet take ur time

[pine sleet]

not all universities offer both. though usually software engineering degrees will have less math requirements

computer science is a most standard degree recognized by most employers

[vapid jay]

have u done it? any degrees

[pine sleet]

im a 3rd year computer science student

[vapid jay]

how is it

[pine sleet]

it's interesting

[vapid jay]

can u show some content u learned?

[pine sleet]

the university you want to go to will usually publish their CS course plan online, you should go look for that

[vapid jay]

no i meant like topics inside, not the name

i wanna see like the maths or programming dont u have pics

[pine sleet]

it's also common for university course catalog to include a brief description of what topics will be covered in the course

[pine sleet]

i do, i'm just not sure it would be very useful for you. that's why I'm telling you to go look at your university's website which will have more relevant details

[vapid jay]

i just wanna see thats it

im not actually like gonna learn it

[pine sleet]

https://catalog.tamu.edu/undergraduate/engineering/computer-science/bs/#programrequirementstext if you insist 🤷

[vapid jay]

why u learning chem

[pine sleet]

it's a requirement for all engineers

[vapid jay]

thats so peak

[pine sleet]

im pretty sure the state requires higher education institutions to have some courses as required so it might be part of that, idk

[vapid jay]

but ur doing cs degree and u learn chem, engineering?

[pine sleet]

i'm not sure i understand

[vapid jay]

so confused bc in UK degrees, like foundation u have to learn that stuff, but BSC CS we learn only computing related

[pine sleet]

well the foundations are included in the degree here

but often times you can transfer in credits from other places like community college or from high school

[vapid jay]

oh thats so sadddd man

[near ocean]

What foundation? The foundation year before a BSc?

[radiant vortex]

hey

be nice

[vapid jay]

im jk

it means subhanallah the freshest umbrella

[radiant vortex]

mhmm

[vapid jay]

trusttt

[deft herald]

Is that BSC CS degree a 4 year degree? Or is it like 2 years of CS after 2 years of the foundational stuff?

[white relic]

UK degrees are usually 3 years and that's all I know about them

[deft herald]

And this reminds me, in one of my freshman engineering courses, a kid put some kind of graphic with a "WTF?" in his presentation. The professor asked him "what's that mean?" and the dude froze...then was like "uh, it means, uh, what the fruit"

classic

[radiant vortex]

As tent said, it's 3 years usually. First year doesn't count towards the final grade (but you have to pass it to continue) and acts as a foundation to bring everyone up to speed. You can do 4 years which would be 3+1 year in placement OR 1 year extra to get a mscs

[near ocean]

foundation has specific meaning in the UK, its better to avoid the general use
for example, https://www.manchester.ac.uk/study/undergraduate/courses/2025/12952/bsc-computer-science-with-an-integrated-foundation-year/

best avoided imho, its an extra year at full tuition, just do better on your a levels and get in the normal way

[warped crow]

Hey guys its been a week since i started learning python and i created my first Project: calculator completely alone and only using helping text from chatgpt once i dont understand the error

[hazy wyvern]

do you need a degree if you want to do coding as a job?

[pine sleet]

it's not a hard requirement for every single job but it will be incredibly difficult to get one without a cs degree

[hazy wyvern]

what about with ai? is it even worth learning anymore?

[peak halo]

Unless you have connections that can get you in front of a hiring manager for an interview, yes. Every job listing will get hundreds of applications from people with CS degrees. Why should they even look at the resume of someone who doesn't have one?

[peak halo]

AI can be a very effective tool, especially in the hands of an experienced dev. It can't fully replace the job of a dev. There's more than just writing code.

[pine sleet]

that's a decision you will have to make yourself. but from my experience, most people in the field seem to think that it won't take over their jobs fully any time soon. but it will change the field

[hazy wyvern]

ok thank you

[pine sleet]

knowing when and how to use AI effectively, and when not to use it will automatically put you ahead of most of your classmates

[peak halo]

(I'm actually trying to use it less. I was starting to feel brain atrophy.)

[pine sleet]

or you could do that too. i don't think AI is at a stage yet where using it will give you so much of a productivity boost that you'd be stupid not to use it

you should still be able to get by just fine by not using it at all

[blissful grove]

could i schedule an interview with someone i need one college/university student and one dropout or highschool degree person
Please dm me if you're interested/just got nothing else to do

[hazy wyvern]

what about with freelancing? or ive been thinking about learning to make websites or trying to learn to integrate ai into local businesses? or with coding i feel like theres alot of opportunities to make ideas into money no? how realistic is that

i live in new zealand, idk if that changes anything like job market

[harsh river]

same

[pine sleet]

not in practice, unless you're well connected or looking for freelance locally, offline (i.e asking people around if they need work done)

[hazy wyvern]

seriously? how could that not work, i feel like people would pay for a decent enough site or to not handle what ai can handle no?

[peak halo]

Freelancing requires you to be more skillful than a junior dev, because you have to do everything yourself. And you also have to know things about the market and how to run your own business.

[regal holly]

Hellow, Any website have low competition to get a work or freelance in 1 yr expirence.

[peak halo]

No. If one existed in the past, so many people would have started using it that it would become competitive.

[hazy wyvern]

yeah but how hard could that even be? especially with these ai tools, or just promoting some random site on tiktok or are there not just opportunities to be made?

for the freelancing i mean

[regal holly]

Ok. I have using many sites but still I don't get...

[peak halo]

To generalize the last thing I said: any easy way of making money immediately becomes saturated.

[regal holly]

Suggest me a best sites please.

[peak halo]

Fiverr and upwork.

[regal holly]

Yeah, but it have high competition I need some website like internshala..

[peak halo]

All the jobs that are easy to do with generative AI probably get snapped up immediately.

[peak halo]

I don't know of any freelancing websites other than the ones I said.

[regal holly]

Ok thanks for the reply 😊

[peak halo]

And if a job is easy to do with generative AI, then there will suddenly be way more people competing to do it, which will drive down the wage for that service.

[placid badger]

I am on the same page @peak halo

[peak halo]

Hello, what do you mean?

[violet grove]

hi

[peak halo]

hello and welcome to the career discussion channel of our wonderful python server.

[placid badger]

I agree your opinion

[violet grove]

tanks🙏

[placid badger]

No matter how superior artificial intelligence is, it cannot surpass the creative abilities of advanced engineers, and artificial intelligence is also utilized by them.

[modest kraken]

Are you in Kyoto right now

[placid badger]

for example, when I develop trading bot using python, I somtimes use AI tools like cursor or copilot, chatgpt, but even though it is superior, it can't implement core functions in trading bot . it needs developer's assistance

yes, I live in Kyoto

[modest kraken]

Wdym by superior

[placid badger]

AI

If AI could do everything, no one would collaborate with developers.

[violet grove]

Learning Django is very difficult for me

[tender vigil]

U can Try first Flask for Learning WTF is an API, but Django is not that hard maybe is the way you are trying to learn it. Try something Simple like a To do app

also remember to have some key knowledge try to first understand Python

sometimes when you dont know very well the fundamentals more advanced topics are usually harder than expected

Advanced topics usually are Fundamentals applied

also if the problem is the ORM try to first land with SQL to understand about Databases the way to go is PostgreSQL is opensource and free

HTML is also valuable just for the views

and the most important : Learn how to read and search on the Official Documentation is the best way to know WTF are you doing

and Good Luck and have fun try to relax and confy

[tender vigil]

First read the exception only the name could be very helpful to know what is happening search what that error means, Using GPT is good but dont be adict to that youre a freshman so try to figure reading some foros and other information sources and well u can ask here with no problem im open on DM

[signal olive]

Yo so it's not really about careers, but d of e. So for the skill part of D of E I was thinking about learning a coding language. But I need advice on what language to pick and in 3 months of learning what would a reasonable goal be?

Please ping on reply btw

[brisk patrol]

Hi everyone,
I’d appreciate some advice on this — especially from those who’ve been through the junior phase or are currently hiring.

At what point does it make sense to stop building projects and learning new technologies, and instead shift my focus to polishing the resume and actively applying to jobs?

Recently, I finished a microservice-style project using the following stack:

FastAPI for the web framework

SQLAlchemy for the ORM

PostgreSQL as the database

Kafka for message brokering

Docker for containerization

Includes proper structure, async code, and best practices

Also implemented JWT-based authentication and token security

The project itself is a Pastebin-like platform where users can upload text/code snippets, get a sharable link, and optionally set a time-to-live. After expiration, the paste becomes inactive and is eventually deleted. The system is built with a clean architecture and uses Kafka.

I’ve tried to stick to best practices and clean design. But I’m wondering: is this enough to start applying and showing it off without feeling embarrassed? Or should I build one more thing before I go all in?

Thanks in advance for your feedback!

[sly garnet]

Hello

[modest kraken]

You can build and apply at the same time

[spice wyvern]

Hi everyone, is there any channel where I can ask some tech related questions (phone, laptop, etc)?

[white relic]

You can ask about non Python related stuff in the off topic channels, e.g. #ot1-perplexing-regexing

[fringe iris]

how do I get started with tkinter

[still vessel]

hi i am new

i want to ubild something with you guys something called sython and sycharm

sython is python + c and sycharm is sython's ide

halo, if you want tog et started than you shoudl review a sample code with comments here is a sample import tkinter as tk
from tkinter import ttk

Function called when the "More Info" button is clicked

def show_more_info():
more_info_label.config(text="""
Sython is a future-ready Python framework for AI-assisted automation,
secure scripting, and modular GUI design.

Core Features:

• Neural-powered decision making
• Real-time API integration
• Plug-in system with sandbox support
• Built-in GUI tools with Tkinter
  """)

Main application window

root = tk.Tk()
root.title("Sython Project Features") # Title of the window
root.geometry("500x400") # Window size (width x height)

Main title label

title_label = ttk.Label(
root,
text="Welcome to the Sython Project",
font=("Helvetica", 18, "bold"),
anchor="center"
)
title_label.pack(pady=20) # Add vertical padding

Listbox showing the main features

features = [
"✔ Easy scripting in Python",
"✔ Modular architecture",
"✔ Fast integration with AI",
"✔ Tkinter GUI compatibility",
"✔ Open-source & community-driven"
]

Create the listbox and insert the features

features_listbox = tk.Listbox(root, font=("Helvetica", 12), height=6)
for feature in features:
features_listbox.insert(tk.END, feature)
features_listbox.pack(pady=10)

Button to show more detailed info

info_button = ttk.Button(root, text="More Info", command=show_more_info)
info_button.pack(pady=10)

Label where more info will be shown after clicking the button

more_info_label = ttk.Label(root, text="", wraplength=480, justify="left")
more_info_label.pack(pady=10)

Run the main GUI loop

root.mainloop()

here it isl ike headers but there are just comments with hashtags

[rough ridge]

!code

[inner wren]

Formatting code on Discord

Here's how to format Python code on Discord:

```py
print('Hello world!')
```

These are backticks, not quotes. Check this out if you can't find the backtick key.

For long code samples, you can use our pastebin.

[still vessel]

is anybody here?

[warped crow]

Thanks mate yes i only use ai for helping and explain the error

[spice wyvern]

Thanks a lot!

[untold saffron]

hi

@analog sun

[analog sun]

@untold saffron hi

Why the ping?

[untold saffron]

I need token bot code pydroid 3

You enter the token, the server becomes a link, it joins automatically, you need a code.

[analog sun]

So a few things:

• This is the #career-advice channel. It is intended to discuss careers
• Don't ping people directly for help
• I am not giving your bot permissions for this server

[untold saffron]

@analog sun what

I'm leaving the server

[analog sun]

ok

[lilac yoke]

This isn’t a bad project, shows off you know system design. Assuming you are applying for internships, and have a decent resume, I wouldn’t be worried.

[last moat]

Any course or learning resource for communication skills / interview cracking? What do you guys recommend

[junior siren]

@potent isle

[near ocean]

You cant recruit here and I doubt people would be interested in a chatgpt generated advert in the first place

[peak halo]

@eternal ledge your message was removed for offering employment, which is not allowed.

[open ivy]

Well I am a bit desperate for a job. But I am not desperate to get scammed...

[raven parrot]

hi

[near ocean]

not from a self reported 12 year old who shouldnt even be on the platform

[open ivy]

Most 12 year olds don't self report their age. Not that it's hard to tell...

[near ocean]

that makes it even worse, regardless a job offer from anyone on discord is suspect

[karmic sierra]

Hello

[peak halo]

@teal moth your message was removed for asking for a job. please read the #rules

[teal moth]

Okay

[sick owl]

are python related careers still in high demand?

[dense shard]

Simple question

I'm a junior dev, barely know anything really deep, and I want to do my things, not necessarily to make money, I just want to do things that Increases or improves my situation as a developer

Like, something really useful

[peak halo]

have you told this to your work leads? they should support you in wanting to broaden your skillset.

[dense shard]

I don't have a job 💔

[peak halo]

did you have one in the past? one usually doesn't say that they're a "junior dev" if they've never been employed as one.

[dense shard]

Oh I'm sorry then, i didn't know that

Really, my bad

[dense shard]

Still, let me correct me, Regarding my first job, or my first service or whatever, how can I value myself as a programmer in practice?

[winter garnet]

I guess keep building project upon projects

things that you’re interested in

possibly things outside the scope of what you know so it encourages you to look up solutions and learn new concepts

[peak halo]

the market for entry-level developer jobs is more competitive than in prior years, but there's always demand for people who are already experienced. and Python is the top language on the TIOBE index.

[dense shard]

Noooo I'll have to get out of my tutorial hell💔💔💔💔(joke)

[sick owl]

not discouraging at all for new python beginners

[peak halo]

I wish I had better news.

[sick owl]

just lie to me

[winter garnet]

I’m still pretty far away from starting university (2 years) and looking to get a degree in Computer Science
(Currently studying Computer Science, Business and Maths)
and I am living in the UK

I’m wondering what the pathways are after university

I know about internships to get some experience and may be something I’m interested in doing

[lilac yoke]

typically you do internships during university

in fact, you can view university as a 4 year buffer to find a job while not looking unemployed

[white relic]

You can be fabulously wealthy by working from home! Degrees are for suckers and all you really need is hustle. Boot camps are a good investment and the more expensive a certificate is, the more widely it's recognized. My online learning platform will get you started in no time, you just need a credit card to sign up. I won't charge it until you win your first programming gig

[winter garnet]

I thought you were being serious for a second 😂

[winter garnet]

Oh so is this something which is done during summer breaks

[lilac yoke]

yeah, you can sometimes find them during the school year provided your course load allows you to work

[cobalt harbor]

Tbh i have no clue how am gonna fit everything in

[winter garnet]

@cobalt harbor you’re doing GCSEs right?

[cobalt harbor]

yeah, I have to sacrifise alot tho. GYM, Coding, Professional Netoworking, Charity Related volunteering, public speaking and stuff

Sorry for late response

[winter garnet]

I wouldn’t say you do

You’ve still got an entire year, you’re currently in a great position to keep doing what you’re doing

I was predicted 9s for Maths and Computer Science so willing to help you out if you send me a dm

(Results haven’t came out yet)

[cobalt harbor]

I'm down for any help

[winter garnet]

I took essentially the same subjects as you however instead of PE I did Business and also had to do German

[cobalt harbor]

How to even organize this month as Mock exams are in novemember i believe once i return

[winter garnet]

I wouldn’t stress about the mocks

[cobalt harbor]

It gets sent off to college and it also determines predictions

[winter garnet]

Either way, colleges determine whether you get in through your actual results not your predicteds

[cobalt harbor]

true but it also determines if you do higher or foundation

[winter garnet]

Ah yeah

I mean personally I found mocks a lot more stressful then my actual GCSE exams , as well as a lot of my friends

[cobalt harbor]

To a certain extent it is important but I do agree with your answer

wth this don't add up

I mean its probably because you already are used to it and got bored of doing so many mocks

[winter garnet]

I found it a lot more stressful then I should have

Anyway since you’ve still got a lot of time I highly recommend starting now

I left all my revision to the last week before the exams and regret it now knowing I could have done better

[cobalt harbor]

Start Revision? Yeah, its one of those days where I say im gonna revise all summer and lock in but it aint happening.

[winter garnet]

Even 30 minutes a day is enough

[cobalt harbor]

I don't know why I look for perfection in revision or else i Quit

[winter garnet]

This is what I said to myself in year 7 all the way up to the day before my first GCSE exam

‘I’ll eventually start, I’ll start next year, I’ll start next month, I’ll start tomorrow’

The best thing to do is just start so you don’t regret not starting earlier then cramming in a lot of revision which is going to be stressful

[cobalt harbor]

I locked in on mocks for some reason but then gave up on the final stretch. I would wake up 5am and get 2hrs of revision done before school sometimes 3 then evening i would come back go gym get fresh and then do more revision.
Now i stopped have no clue why

[winter garnet]

Especially as GCSEs aren’t that difficult, it’s just content heavy so it’s more about memorisation

[cobalt harbor]

yeah

[winter garnet]

It’s better to start early

[cobalt harbor]

Not sure why I am not old me waking up early and getting stuff done

[winter garnet]

I never revised any English and have now got my worries of whether I got the grade required to even do my sixth form course so don’t be me

Hopefully I have though

[cobalt harbor]

I got a grade 6 english, did revision before exam legit 1 day before and Lang i flopped it somehow. I usually work at a 7 but got a 3. Probs because i panicked and then started day dreaming for an hour or so

never day dreaming ever again in exam hall

[winter garnet]

In mocks I was getting grade 6 and 5s

I need a 5 in either English Lang or Lit to get into my sixth form

[cobalt harbor]

Maths I'm cooked. I had the mock paper so i knew what question type was coming up. got a grade 5+ which is basically a grade 6

[winter garnet]

I reckon I got it I’m just stressed

[winter garnet]

Maths and Computer Science are my strong points so let me know if you need any help

I did Edexcel for Maths, OCR for Computer Science

[cobalt harbor]

you cant mess up lang or you have to do it again

[winter garnet]

In my sixth form you need a grade 5 in either or to get in

[cobalt harbor]

my weak points but i find it intresting and willing to learn. Maths i just had a bad learning path. I moved up sets climbing ranks every week and each class was at a diffrent level so i knew nothing others knew which is unfair. but in average im smarter than most but not smartest

Im doing that ocr and edexcel

[winter garnet]

Same as me?

[cobalt harbor]

ye, ocr j277 for comp sci and maths edexcel

[winter garnet]

That’s great then I’d be able to help you out

[cobalt harbor]

ill drop you a dm whenever i need help if thats alright

[winter garnet]

Of course

[gusty spindle]

yo guys how hard is python to learn

[cobalt harbor]

easiest langauge in my opinon as its the closest to english. You can read it like a book

[winter garnet]

Just out of curiosity what other exam boards do you do?

I did Geography AQA, Religious Studies eduqas
English AQA

[gusty spindle]

im on linux tryna figure out how to use it do u know any sites that teach easily

[cobalt harbor]

im doing geog aqa
re aqa
english aqa

we switched exam boards for geog it used to be edexcel but then apparently grade boundries getting high so we switched to aqa this year

[winter garnet]

Just so if I have any resources I can provide them to you

[winter garnet]

Looking to get a good grade in geography?

[cobalt harbor]

for me everything is AQA except Maths which edexcel and cs which is ocr

I used to get grade 6-7 on geog

i got a grade 6 only because paper was leaked by whole department

either way if i revised i could get a pass for sure

[winter garnet]

I’m probably gonna get around a 7-8, definitely could have pushed for 9 but I didn’t wonna memorise all the case studies especially as I’m not taking it for A-Levels and wanted to prioritise other subjects

[cobalt harbor]

My main focus is maths eng sci and comp sci and the rest idc what i get long as a grade 4

[winter garnet]

You do combined science?

[cobalt harbor]

yeah

[winter garnet]

Higher for all subjects?

[cobalt harbor]

yeah

[winter garnet]

Best advice I have for you is to start revising now only if it’s a little bit a day

[cobalt harbor]

I've been living life which made me this way. Especially i finished mocks and hit all the goals for the academic year. Now its holidays so my brain turned off

need to turn it on again

[winter garnet]

Only 20 minutes a day for a year

Adds up to 121 hours

That’s equivalent to 25 days of school learning

[cobalt harbor]

I look for perfection and cant stop of for some reason. Like rn i want to start on a monday fresh week and if i cant do it on monday my brains like you ruined it so start next monday so its perfect. I need to learn there is no perfect time to start

[winter garnet]

The perfect time was the past, you can’t change that

The second perfect time is right this second 😄

[cobalt harbor]

I'm gonna try tommorow trust me

[winter garnet]

I get what you mean though

[cobalt harbor]

even if i wake up late, im like i messed it up

[winter garnet]

Making a revision timetable could help

20 minutes a day, prioritise more days for subjects you want to do better in

[cobalt harbor]

Used to have one and i can still use it perfectly. Matter of fact im gonna use it

it took me weeks to make it. I found out average time for everything i do. e.g what time i get home how long i take to eat and stuff and its made to perfection and its so accurate.

[winter garnet]

you said you go the gym, me too

do you know if your school provides you with study leave during exams?

[cobalt harbor]

yeah they do

[winter garnet]

i found going to the gym like 2-3 times a week during exam season really helped me out

took away a lot of stress and i used it as a sort of reset

[cobalt harbor]

i spend hours in the gym, so many people to talk to and have a laugh. Keeps me distracted from my bad past. Also its a good way to get some fresh air and go for a walk

[winter garnet]

ah I’m normally only in for about an hour

[cobalt harbor]

2hrs 45 - 3hr 30m and sometimes 4 rare]

[winter garnet]

I don’t wonna discourage you but I feel like that’s unnecessary, you would have a lot more time available if you spent a reasonable amount of time and if I remember correctly you said you struggle to fit things into your schedule or something along the lines

[cobalt harbor]

Yeah, it is. Totally true. I agree

[winter garnet]

what are your goals in the gym?

[cobalt harbor]

Its because Everyone knows me there so every machine I start yapping about random stuff with them

[cobalt harbor]

Get lean and build strength. Be healthier and have better stamina and be distracted from life

[winter garnet]

how long you been training for?

i started last year November

[cobalt harbor]

i did 2 months consistent when I was new but it was me testing stuff out and getting used to it. Rn i would say 1 month serious consistent or even 2. Ivebeen in the gym for 4 months

I did take 1 month break due to charity events and stuff and moicks

[winter garnet]

if you’re serious about it I would say diet is most important

[cobalt harbor]

yeah 10000000%

its all made in the kitchen bro

[winter garnet]

in losing fat, trying to gain muscle, maintaining muscle

the workout is only 10% of bodybuilding and is the easy part the other 90% is diet and is hard

what made you start going to the gym?

[cobalt harbor]

I struggle to diet. Count calories ruins the day and then i end up eatring alot

my maintenance calorie is 2.5k ish

i weight 65kg and im a medium build like a skinny fat. Not twigs

[cobalt harbor]

mental health and just also wanted to look good and strong

[winter garnet]

for me it was the same, i felt weak and didn’t like the way my physique looked and wanted to get stronger

I’m also really grateful to have a father who goes to the gym and is very experienced and he’s helped me out a lot

[cobalt harbor]

lucky

im the oldest and the first

[winter garnet]

sorry Wdym by this? Like out of yo ur siblings ?

[cobalt harbor]

yeah, and the first and only one to try things out like gym, volunteering, professional networking meeting leaders or to do public speaking and stuff. none of my parents ever did or their bloodline or my siblings

Im going to be the first to go uni in my family. my bloodline have done it but not family

[winter garnet]

it’s great that you’re doing this

[cobalt harbor]

maybe it will trigger a chain reaction like a domino effect for future generations. I even applied to stuff like scholarships. Tried atleast

writing personal statements and stuff was not easy as i was doing it bymyself. and personal statements are meant to be written in college and uni not in start oif year 10

[winter garnet]

Definitely possible

When you have children they’re going to look up to you and what you do

[cobalt harbor]

i sign up to everything i got a chance to even if i fail. ive got rejections before but then later on better ones come

[winter garnet]

Oh you aren’t going into year 11 now? Or were you talking about in the past

[cobalt harbor]

atleast something i can say e.g Well im enthusiatic and is curious as ive applied to many things and learnt rejection is not that deep etc etc

yeah going into year 11

was talking about past

[winter garnet]

I’m quite the opposite but would really like to get out of my comfort zone

[cobalt harbor]

i remember me getting rejected by a charity event in school so i went out there bymyself and raised around £8k by myself whilst school did 10k with a team

[cobalt harbor]

i done alot of stuff, to being invited into a big tech firm to spend a day with them at central london thats worth 200Bil net

[winter garnet]

these sound like really big opportunites

I guess we both have things we can teach other now 😄

[cobalt harbor]

Trying to get into Oxford like my teacher. Got two teachers, two rolemodels, two aspects of life, One teaches about life and other academics

without her i wouldnt be who i am today. Ever.

[winter garnet]

I live in London so ideally would like a university near me due to financial reasons

[cobalt harbor]

tryijng to get a college in london. need the grades

[winter garnet]

i was looking at woodhouse college and imperial if you know them

[cobalt harbor]

all im lacking is grades rest of my cv is looking really packed. even with the stuff i done in school and community projects or evgen life outside of school

i got told off when writing a personal statement as it was wayy too long and couldnt fit everything in

[winter garnet]

i feel like this is the opposite for me
my grades are good however i would love to do what you’re doing outside of school just don’t know where to even start

I’ve already missed out on too many opportunites simply as I’m a bit shy

[cobalt harbor]

ive rode police cars, riot cars, firetrucks, ambulances all sorts emr services. got insigts into those field

[cobalt harbor]

school didnt give me so i did it myself with the motivation my teachers give. they role models

[winter garnet]

I’m going to start looking at opportunities for students my age whether it’s volunteering, work experience

[cobalt harbor]

ive also been given life advice from royal navy marines army etc. I ask questions about life to every industry e.g What advice would you give to your younger self and take it all in so i dont make these mistakes and regret it later on like them. I want to make most of it

[winter garnet]

something to do with computer science, maths or business ideally as these are the subject im planning to take

[cobalt harbor]

doc lawyers engineers everything

[cobalt harbor]

do volunteering possibly, give you more links because in work exp your sort of trapped into one place. I recommend

but in work exp you have a chance to get a job offer and skills for other jobs

[winter garnet]

i just feel like at the moment i have nothing to put in my cv

[cobalt harbor]

im lacking grades 😭

[winter garnet]

I haven’t done anything interesting

[cobalt harbor]

i inspired alot of people even adults. They ask me for advice and stuff which is weird. Worked with mental health people aswell and raise awareness for them

[cobalt harbor]

My most intresting is when i tried to break out of a police car. (Had legal consent to do it)

anyways am getting carried away

[winter garnet]

I’m gonna start looking now for opportunities you’ve inspired me 😄

[cobalt harbor]

lmao, good luck man. You still got time.

[winter garnet]

I wonna make the most out of my time now yeah and don’t wonna regret missing out on anything more

[cobalt harbor]

I did all this in a span of a year 3/4 quaters

ive done so much and its more than enough. idk what to tell you got so many stories

thats proof right there you can do more than me.

[winter garnet]

i don’t even know where to start looking though

guess searching on Google would be a start

[cobalt harbor]

try volunteering and meeting people. from there you will meet other organisations and start meeting more or even be invited to events where you can meet industry professionals or leads

my dms open and i always see them try dming whenever you want. always

this server a bit clogged

[foggy sparrow]

win this Python contest by Google and you can schmooze with everyone @ Neurips 2025!
https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/google-code-golf-2025

[shy saffron]

I find it hard to learn python I can't memorize anything 😭 😭 I can't even memorize how to make a simple addition calculator

[fringe sphinx]

don't need to memorize. just do. you'll remember the important stuff.

[shy saffron]

I just started learning python and when I try to do something with it I can't seem to do anything

[fringe sphinx]

and if you don't, that's what google is for.

[fringe sphinx]

Yah, it's frustrating. I know. It is. Trust the process.

[shy saffron]

I watched 40min of a 1 hour beginner tutorial and got bored and stopped😭

[fringe sphinx]

When you get stuck, ask for help in #python-discussion or open a help thread #❓｜how-to-get-help . It helps to talk to someone.

Yah, youtube videos are terrible.

Have you seen this reocmmendation: #python-discussion message

[shy saffron]

I feel stupid asking help for a super easy single line of code that a toddler should know

[shy saffron]

I don't like when things take too long to learn and I can't lie I can't bring myself go read a 400 page doc

[fringe sphinx]

That's the way to learn. Ask "why" like a toddler. A lot.

The ppl in #python-discussion who learn the fastest ask the most questions

[fringe sphinx]

Yah, that's not really how you learn either. You don't just read 400 pages or watch 12 hours of youtube. You read a little (or watch a little) and experiment. And repeat.

You don't get good at tennis by watching it on tv.

[shy saffron]

U have any good guides for beginner learning python that isn't too long?😭

[fringe sphinx]

See that link I gave you

[shy saffron]

It has like 10 guides idk what one is the best for beginner

[fringe sphinx]

They're all good. Some ppl like different things

For youtube, corey schaffer is good

[shy saffron]

I have no coding background whatsoever, but I am learning python to automate things basically like simple stuff, image tracking etc

[fringe sphinx]

Automate the Boring Stuff is a really good ebook

[shy saffron]

Last time I tried that the website would never load for me

I just wanna learn python BCS it could come in handy but for short term I just want to make cool automated stuff for games

[fringe sphinx]

Really? https://automatetheboringstuff.com/3e/chapter0.html

[shy saffron]

Oh it works now

[fringe sphinx]

and this is a video from the author: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHUvzkuf3Qk&ab_channel=PyConUS

[shy saffron]

Noted, does this teach beginner stuff because I pretty much don't know anything and forgot everything that some random YouTube video guide was talking about for 40 minutes

[fringe sphinx]

automate the boring stuff is designed for complete beginners.

[shy saffron]

Alright thank you I will read it tomorrow and try to not give up instantly

[shy saffron]

Oh by the way if I forget something about coding/get a error do I ask chatgpt or do I ask here/always here

[fringe sphinx]

Ask here. I think GPT is bad for beginners, because part of learning is discussing things. Getting better at explaining your question, etc.

[shy saffron]

Noted. Thanks for the help!

[fringe sphinx]

Good luck

[quartz gate]

Has anyone gotten a tech role this year?

[smoky quest]

some people have

[still tapir]

Hey what's good people. I'm still wondering if there are ways to speed up network I/O without external libraries. I know I can use uvloop (not built in), multithreading and multiprocessing libraries. But I might go to golang for speed but I'm not sure

[harsh river]

this should go in #python-discussion

[still tapir]

Ohh gotcha

[smoky cairn]

Got one on my birthday lol

[analog sun]

@cedar marlin your message was removed for violating server rules

[dapper cairn]

Hello, I'm beginner to python I want to learn this language for automation, basic web development and maybe to make some games.
I learned the basics like loops function condition writing a file reading a file ...ect and OOP, now I'm kinda lost what's the next step

[vivid rover]

hi ! for a crowbot discord it's better discord.py or pycord ?

[near ocean]

Ask in #discord-bots

[vivid rover]

thanks sir

[delicate juniper]

Im stuck at the same spot, people tell me to grind leetcode, but that’s just too hard and long

[abstract kindle]

hello

[fringe sphinx]

Who tells you to grind leetcode? That's terrible advice.

(unless you're specifically preparing for a very specific thing that is only measured on leetcode)

[delicate juniper]

People all over youtube, I want to be good enough to create my own app and a website

[fringe sphinx]

Yah, don't listen to youtubers or social media. They'll tell you all sorts of crazy hot takes.

[fringe sphinx]

leetcode won't help you at all with either. The way to get good is by playing the game, and asking questions to make sure you understand it.

[delicate juniper]

So just start building it then? Cause people either tell me “Oh, you’ve built a calculator now, now make a notemaker 😈, oh you made that? Now make a random password generator 😈” bro just making this text stuff is boring, I need an actual big project

I haven’t gotten into the UI stuff yet, all this tkinter, flask, django idk which to choose

[white relic]

you don't need to make anything in particular, but you do need to make things

[delicate juniper]

Yeah that makes sense

[white relic]

If you don't have an idea what you want to make, people are going to suggest stuff that might not suit your interests, and that's fine. If you want to get good at web stuff then you should start making web stuff.

I personally don't find ui interesting so most of my projects have an argparse ui if any

[quartz gate]

Mind sharing your resume with me? I'm a bit extremely confused as to what I need to do.

Like, I both get it and don't get it at the same time what my endgoal is.

For example : Do I build a webpage in Python and put as much love and care into the tech stacks while also using tech that goes beyond a single language like regex?

[fringe sphinx]

Don't think of it as an end goal, rather than a lifelong process of growth. There's no end state, just solving problems and acquiring knowledge and experience along the way.

[indigo crescent]

Man i feel like apply for a job in IT on indeed just to see if I get a call back

Just a regular entry level. Cause I want a IT job for weekends for experience

[narrow prawn]

Looking for a team for a new AI project

[rapid holly]

Is it like a brand new project?

[narrow prawn]

Yessir

İm gonna use ctk for the frontend

[rapid holly]

Also fyi

!rule job

[inner wren]

Rules

9. Do not offer or ask for paid work of any kind.

[narrow prawn]

??

[rapid holly]

This is not the channel for recruiting ppl

[next plover]

Yes

[wanton hazel]

who needs a Python expert?

[peak halo]

Why do you ask? Because you can't ask for jobs here.

[wanton hazel]

why not?

[peak halo]

it's against the #rules. be sure to read them before continuing to engage with the server.

[spring ivy]

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I have now discovered data supporting exactly what I was saying before, but more concretely, AI is disproportionately affecting computer programmers and writers despite people saying the loss in jobs is due to interest rates

That argument never made sense anyways tbh since other majors and occupations weren't hit as hard as computer science after the interest rate increases

Tho the reasoning in the video seems stupid cuz any programmer knows that programming is a very messy workflow.. so idk wtf that guy is saying with his reasoning, but AI job replacements statistics from the study/video remain the same regardless

[near ocean]

Im still not sure how we swerved from fancy realistic chatbots to fully capable of replacing software developers in this AI hype timeline

[white relic]

I haven't seen anyone blame the tech hiring slump on interest rates specifically

[solemn dagger]

can anyone tell me how i can find internships at small startups

[gleaming crow]

yooo

anyone interested in AI

[white relic]

Why specifically small startups?

[wide copper]

Hey, I'm a second-year Computer Science student. Naturally, I'm aiming to land a job at a respectable company in the future. I've heard that getting a referral can significantly boost your chances, and that got me thinking. From what I understand, a referral is when someone inside the company recommends you — but I’m having a hard time picturing how that actually works.

Is it like someone just walks up to a manager and says, 'Hey, check out this guy he’s good'? Or is it more formal than that? Also, I’m a bit confused about who can actually give a referral. Does it have to be someone in a higher position, like a manager, or can a regular employee do it too?

I’ve got all these questions in my head and I’d really appreciate it if you could help me understand how referrals actually work — both the process and the people involved.

[peak halo]

a referral is when someone inside the company recommends you
that's literally all it is. how it works will depend on the company, and the hiring manager, and the referrer. anyone in a company can refer anyone, but how much of a difference it will make depends on the relationship between the referer and the hiring manager.

[wide copper]

I see. Really appreciate it buddy

[peak halo]

also @wide copper, a referral probably won't help you if you don't (a) actually have the skills that the hiring manager is looking for and (b) don't actually have a solid relationship with the referrer.

[wide copper]

@peak halo
Yeah, I totally agree with you. I'm genuinely committed to improving my skill set. Honestly, I didn’t even know about referrals before, I was planning to break into the job market based purely on my skills (though, saying that is always easier than actually doing it, haha).
But once I learned about how powerful referrals can be, I started stressing about how to even find the right people and build strong enough connections for them to actually vouch for me. I imagine a lot of this naturally happens within the workplace, but that’s the thing, I live in a country where there aren’t any big tech companies around, so I won’t have many in-person opportunities.
So for me, it’s all going to have to happen online — which means one thing: I have to make my skills speak for themselves.

[gray helm]

I'm a bit conflicted on whether I should have python as my preferred/"main" language, sort to say, it's by far the one I'm most familiar with but my resume is not that great and having only made personal/hobby projects between 2015-2020 (after that I started contributing to a niche open-source project) it feels like my experience is worthless.
I've been freelancing for the past couple of years but I rarely do anything with it anymore and the vast majority of python postings I see are to work with some yucky AI stuff (not like my resume would get me any interviews otherwise).

[crisp stream]

It's what the LLM providers are promising

[next plover]

i wonder why

[crisp stream]

Have you had anyone review your resume? Perhaps there are points that could be rephrased or elaborated to improve it?

[gray helm]

I plan on it before I start actively searching again. I hit pause a couple of months back cause I lost spirit

[sacred topaz]

Hi yall I am new to coding (python) I am 15 if yall wanna dont mind can one of yall teach me Python I know few stuffs bout Python if so tysm ❤️

[gray helm]

I had only gotten one interview on my own, which happened to be for a python position and another through a referral after more than a year sending out applications. Both went nowhere after the final rounds and were extremely demoralizing in their own ways

[sacred topaz]

Hi thier if u won't mind can u like tutor me on python?

[dapper cairn]

ok I will try how hard it can be

[near ocean]

You grind leetcode after you can get past recruiter screens, not before

There is zero point in struggling with leetcode first if youre not getting to technical interviews

[dapper cairn]

so what should i do ?

[near ocean]

Focus on making your CV be interview worthy first
Put stuff on it that would get recruiters to call you

[dapper cairn]

ok thanks

[lethal skiff]

I'm in my 3rd year of engineering nd I didn't studied anything can anyone suggest me that what can I do or where to start my journey.

[near ocean]

Study?

[lethal skiff]

Yup

[near ocean]

Yea so do it

[lethal skiff]

Can you suggest where to start?

[near ocean]

The uni course youre probably paying for

[lethal skiff]

Which?

[delicate juniper]

For me I am not just looking for a job at Python, I want to learn it to so I can make something of myself and grow that way, I don’t need leetcode for that right?

[cobalt swallow]

nice

me, growing with AI and ML

[near ocean]

No

[lilac yoke]

That’s terrible advice, start leetcode as early as possible.

[near ocean]

Why

[lilac yoke]

Leetcode isn’t something you can just master in a couple days before your interview

[near ocean]

The leetcode step could take anywhere from a week to a couple months, you dont need to master it and its only relevant during interviews

[lilac yoke]

From someone who has pulled all nighters for a week to practice leetcode before an interview— don’t do that.

The best advice is to solve problems daily, and when you start applying, solve multiple daily. If you have a technical screen, you need to then solve problems posted for that specific company, for a couple hours a day before the interview.

[near ocean]

People not even getting call backs dont need to worry about it
If they have to do one thing to improve at that point, it definitely wouldnt be leetcode

[true harness]

it really is. if you've taken dsa courses like a college student would, it doesn't take long to learn how leetcode works

[lilac yoke]

I’ve said this before, but a DS&A course is not going to prepare you for leetcode.

[near ocean]

You talk about it as if the goal is to do all 2000 problems

[lilac yoke]

Anyways, I’ve done countless interviews and failed most of them doing the “learn a week before” strategy. Do what you’d like at the end of the day

[near ocean]

The goal is to get past the technical interview and for most people that would be at around 150 problems solved total

[still condor]

Maybe you didn't fare well on the interviews because you didn't sleep well due to all nighters?

[lilac yoke]

Haha maybe

I’ve seen it all honestly, I once had 6 hours of interviews for a company in one day (third round too), which was 5 different leetcode hards with different people

I solved 4/5 and didn’t make it to the offer on that one

[near ocean]

That sounds like more of a test of your willingness to be subject to torture than leetcode skill

[lilac yoke]

I actually did that whole thing twice, once my sophomore year and once my junior year. Think my sophomore year I got 3/5

It's always a bummer to go through something like that, but at the end of the day it just made me appreciate the companies that give you an easy problem and talk to you like a human being instead. I landed a dream job not long after from an interview like that.

[peak halo]

Ones ability to solve leetcode style questions might even be inversely correlated with practical programming ability. The overwhelming majority of software that needs to be written does not involve optimization problems in resource constrained environments

If an interviewer rejects a candidate who would have been able to do the job because they couldn't do an advanced leetcode question (ie, one that requires knowledge beyond the basics from a DSA course), their hiring practices are shit.

[lilac yoke]

To be fair, from their perspective, if 10 people failed a problem, 5 passed it, and they can only hire 3, why would pick from the 10? If someone has made it past the resume screen they're likely on equal grounds.

[peak halo]

I wouldn't even waste time in the interview asking a leetcode question and would instead use a different criterion to filter out candidates. One that actually has to do with the job.

[lilac yoke]

As much as I hate leetcode, and as much as it's made me suffer, the sentiment that no matter my background (college, experience etc) we all compete on a fair ground to get the job is nice.

[smoky quest]

These are pretty strong statements. They do rely on a few assumptions to make them work, and these assumptions are only applicable in very specific situations

[modest kraken]

Isn’t the problem that mango does judge based off of leetcode

[smoky quest]

In the USA, it's pretty standard to see people writing code through problems reduced to their core ideas (ie. DSA).
Reducing it all to "leetcode" is a shortcut for discussions, but also quite simplistic and make people focused on the wrong concets.

So yeah, faang will ask you these, but so would a typical interview

[modest kraken]

Yeah kinda sad

[peak halo]

mango? this is microsoft amazon nvidia google ?

[smoky quest]

if there was a better alternative, it would be in use everywhere 😉

[modest kraken]

Meta Amazon NVIDIA Google open ai

[peak halo]

interesting

I think it's very unlikely that OpenAI is asking leetcode questions to their ML engineers.

(I was never asked a single one when interviewing for ML positions.)

[long solar]

I studied leetcode for weeks only to get hired after only a behavioral interview and no technical

[smoky quest]

also note it's only one step of an interview process. An interview process would include more things being assessed

[modest kraken]

Yeah

[white wasp]

Anyone know if it's even possible to do basic coding and get paid? i do therapy and im compensated very well but when im home and bored im jw if i can learn more stuff and actually get a side gig for fun

[peak halo]

There's freelancing, but for anything "basic", I don't think you'd be able to out-compete people from countries with low cost of living.

[white wasp]

damn so basically just worthless to force myself to learn it 😂

[peak halo]

I think it's always worth it to learn about things that interest you. And learning to code I think gives you a new perspective on logical reasoning.

[white wasp]

dang, fs fs

[whole tendon]

Hi, Im a freshman rn at CMU studying IS

I want to do Security Systems engineering or Security Engineering at a FAANG company... Can anyone give me some insight on what level of python i should learn?

[lilac yoke]

I’m not sure “what level of Python” means, but I’m sure you could find great security engineering projects and utilize Python

[smoky quest]

Security is a pretty wide field and with different roles.
Given you are at CMU, I would leverage the strength of that school to give yourself an unfair advantage.

I would also encourage you to view python as a tool, not as an end in itself. So focus on what you would do, irrespective of the language of the day

[astral delta]

Hi! I'm a Data Engineer that just got laid off, and I'm tired of building dashboards. What's the most effective way of changing course?
I want the data to feed apps or models, and I'm thinking something like AI Engineer or ML Engineer. I have a math background so the science is not the hard part for me (it's the part I want), but my portfolio is a bit leaning more on ETL and databases with dashboard experience.
Anyone got any tips?

[kindred ridge]

Hi, I just finished highschool, some of my math grades were not great which means that I will probably need to fix some of them to prove myself to the universities, currently working a 9 to 5, not sure what I should focus on in my free time (math, learn to code?...) because there is some time before I will start to fix my grade and search for universitys that will accept me (software engineering). What are your thoughts?

[next plover]

You may not be doing much programming in a position like this

I would suggest getting a bit into low level if you want to get into security programming though as the concepts are important

[lapis turret]

guys, how much can this help me, i case of US uni's and jobs too

[eternal warren]

how can someone get into quant with a ds background

[spring ivy]

Same question

[peak halo]

what data science background do you have?

[vapid jay]

@untold thistle

@krypton

Where are you @vale stream

[eternal warren]

nothin crazy, i was just wondering if say for example u majored in ds can u get in to quant after undergrad or is that crazy. I heard it requires a lot of math too right?

[vapid jay]

@NEMESISDEV

[peak halo]

@vapid jay this is your only warning to stop pinging random people and writing off-topic/spammy messages. If you know these people, make a group DM, or something.

[eternal warren]

say you are good at stats/proba/python what would be the best position for u would u go to the basic ds route or like data engineer or would ai or ML engineer would fit better. imo ML/AI engineering position are going up in demand with whatever is going on. Please correct me if i am wrong!

[bleak robin]

hi guys i wanna make a resume like a pro, can any one help me

[kindred ridge]

please help out guys

[deft herald]

Have you considered taking core classes for a year at a community college which will transfer to the university you want to attend? That could end up being a chance to improve your grades.

[deft herald]

But have you taken act/sat?

[kindred ridge]

what is that?

[deft herald]

Are you in US or no?

[kindred ridge]

no

[deft herald]

Ok nevermind on that then

What universities are you trying to get into?

[kindred ridge]

idk just normal ones, not now though, for now im working a 9 to 5 and learning on the side by myself

[deft herald]

Have you even applied anywhere?

[kindred ridge]

no, its to early for now, i just know my grades were not the best

[deft herald]

If you want to go to college I would do it ASAP honestly

[deft herald]

How is it too early if you already graduated? I would say it's too late lol

[kindred ridge]

I'm very young, just finished high school

[deft herald]

How young? Did you finish early or something?

[kindred ridge]

na im 18

[deft herald]

Why do you think it's too early to apply for colleges then? I thought usually you start applying like when you begin your final year of high school

[kindred ridge]

need to make some money first, to fund my education

[deft herald]

Student loans/financial aid exist

[kindred ridge]

well i need to check it out then haha

well thanks for the help

[next plover]

Please please please heavily research any loans you take

[kindred ridge]

sure, it sounds very scary

[woven kernel]

chatgpt 5 is releasing soon what you guys think?

[peak halo]

@barren prairie your message was removed for asking for a job. Please read the #rules

[weary sierra]

more skids are coming.

[gilded mist]

I havnt seen it yet, gana have to take a look. thx for the head up.

[whole tendon]

so like shell scripting and things like that

[next plover]

C and Assembly if you're interested in code exploitation / reverse engineering, and the concepts you learn about memory are very helpful if you ever need to secure code or something, what did you mean by "security engineer"?

[whole tendon]

Cybersecurity Engineer, like red teaming or making security softwares., configuring firewalls and a lot more

[next plover]

a lot of this wont require python at all

[whole tendon]

oh ok

[fringe sphinx]

!warn 1357023503559168020 Not the channel nor server for trolling or image spam

[inner wren]

:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied warning to @uneven heath.

[uneven heath]

sorry

[rapid holly]

It used to be FAANG.. apple and Netflix are no longer in the list? :/

[smoky cairn]

Because MAANNGO doesn’t sound as cool

[rapid holly]

Mango db?

[spark hornet]

gpt 5 came out and were cooked

[rapid holly]

No more writing from scratch?

[mystic lark]

who can help me? my python script wont run

[fringe sphinx]

(they opened a help thread)

[peak halo]

FAANG only made sense as a stock market thing (otherwise the inclusion of Netflix makes no sense and there are notable misses)
Sounds like MANGO is about the AI boom (Apple doesn't have an LLM and their AI strategy failed).

[neon marsh]

isn't it weird that i've been doing coding 10+ years and experience building system design. but no experience working in tech and not even internship

[smoky quest]

not necessarily. Some people do it for fun, as a hobby or any other reason

[swift sorrel]

yall what is honestly better Spyder or Vs Code i Cant Tell i crashed out on spyder rn

[smoky quest]

Sounds like a better question for either #python-discussion or #tools-and-devops

[narrow prawn]

İts normal trust me

Tech is an rigged i industry

[smoky quest]

in what way(s)?

[narrow prawn]

Everything

[smoky quest]

like?

[narrow prawn]

Like too much concurrency

High work hours, low pays

The only reason i do tech is because it was always the only passion i have ever had

But people who do tech for the money, they regret it.

[neon marsh]

because they work for someone else. Its better to create our own startups

[smoky quest]

that's not typical high tech jobs

[narrow prawn]

That's the thing. Not everyone can do startups, especially if they don't even like their job. Most people would rather do a 9/5. They won't put in the effort

[smoky quest]

a typical high tech jobs would pay quite far above the median pay for the area for very comfortable and flexible hours, at least in the USA

[narrow prawn]

You know what i said about concurrency

You gotta be better than SO MUCH people with insane work ethics to get that high tech job
P

[smoky quest]

not really

your profile states you are 14 years old. So how much professional experience do you have?

[narrow prawn]

A few years of making apps for my barber

And ive got some medals from tech conferences from inside and outside

I don't have any professional experience.

[neon marsh]

nice, whats your tech stack and how did you learn to make it

[proud glacier]

what do you mean by "concurrency" here exactly?

I don't imagine you're complaining about too much async/await...

[smoky quest]

sure, but that is just a 14 years old student gig. That is not representative of the job market in tech
And congrats for your entrepreneurial mindset too!

[narrow prawn]

İ worked for an 8266 to make an deauther in my first project, wrote the program in arduino c/c++, second one was a pygame powered platformer, pretty large scale. I'm solo on this and it's pretty impressive for my country now.

[narrow prawn]

A LOT of people in tech, its really like that

[proud glacier]

oh
I wouldn't use the term "concurrency" for that

[narrow prawn]

Like opposition.

[proud glacier]

"oversaturation" or "competition" perhaps

[narrow prawn]

Yea that's some great alternatives

İ started English like 1 years ago, i pretty much suck

[neon marsh]

@narrow prawn what is your country

[narrow prawn]

Azerbaijan.

[proud glacier]

not really, you're doing extremely well for someone who has only been learning English for one year

[smoky quest]

your english is awesome!

[twilit wedge]

are there good python courses for engineering students? (for ee preferably, but optional) I completed cs50p course.

[sharp mica]

I’m currently interning in Data Engineering and might get full-time offers for both Data Engineering and AI/ML roles soon. I’m a finance major aiming to become a quantitative trader/researcher/developer, but I’m also thinking about which path is better overall for long-term growth, stability, and skill development.

I plan to finish my courses and then pursue grad school in something Data or ML-related. Since I may have to decide quickly, I’d love to hear anyone's thoughts on how these two options compare in terms of future opportunities, risks, and rewards.

[toxic basalt]

Hey I am 16 year old and I just completed my 12th now I want to get into CSE Along with AI and ML any suggestions for me?

[copper agate]

first get familiar with python and then divieinto ML and datascience

[toxic basalt]

Thank u for your advice

[dense mesa]

Which roles are you looking at specifically? Working in ops/back office, sure. As a trader? Most likely not.

[dense mesa]

Have seen people refer to the list as "big N" instead

[dense mesa]

https://www.ft.com/content/6b9ce8ce-a327-40c1-a8a1-579c2727fc60

Looks like they have little choice but to acqui-hire now

[regal axle]

People I talk to will still say "FANG" or "big tech". Yes, the acronym is kinda gone now. But it means something a little larger than just a few companies. Most people know what you mean when you say "working for a faang company"

[eternal warren]

Which ones work?

[devout shell]

Hello. Can anyone guide me about remote internships for python beginners?

[tired spear]

should i apply for jobs?

[near ocean]

What would the alternative be?

[tired spear]

hmm take some time off learn new things try to make a system that i want, make some people interested in it and launch it?

if it fails then its a learning opportunity, if works then good i get to hire a bunch of ppl give them salaries or sell it?

[near ocean]

Can you survive without a job paying you?

[tired spear]

i cant.

it's a pipe dream.

[stark terrace]

Confident developer with a solid background in Python, JavaScript, and HTML.
I have years of experience delivering clean, reliable, and efficient solutions for diverse projects.
Every task is approached with precision and a focus on achieving client goals.
Do you have a Upwork account?

[peak halo]

hello, why are you asking if people have an upwork account?

[misty umbra]

guys

[deft herald]

That's some good keyword soup. This isn't the place for finding jobs though

[lavish fiber]

Great . Can you suggest me how to get internship?

[stark terrace]

I need it very much.

[peak halo]

that doesn't answer my question, but you can't ask people to let you seek jobs via their upwork account.

[stark terrace]

Ok, I see. I will not do so. But could you tell me who you are?

[deft herald]

step 1: be a student
step 2: build a resume
step 3: apply to all the things

[deft herald]

That's Stelercus

[marble wing]

guys how can i improve my portfolio, what projects should i focus on?

[peak halo]

you can look at my profile.

[fringe sphinx]

tbh, the hat speaks for itself.

[stark terrace]

Ok

[uneven moat]

He's the director of this server

[deft herald]

Hard to say without knowing what's currently on your portfolio

Look at the channel description

[vapid jay]

Deleted 👍

[lilac sundial]

How long will it take me to make my own rest api framework or programming language(func./oops.)

Are these types of projects overkill/underkill for fang interviews

[stark terrace]

Hi. you should make it?/

[lilac sundial]

Please guys straightforward answers

99% of stuff i see out there is either really basic or like a 35hr springboot fullstack app thats either behind a paywall or doesnt use even react lol

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The only things comparable to the original things i asked would be something open src like a component lib or some 1k plus star repo which i doubt can make

I have some good time and i would like to try and learn and build these things on my own

|| i would even resort to using python which we all know is worse than javascript ☕ ||

[smoky quest]

It's a matter of how far you want to go. So it could take 1 day to an entire life

They are useful for interviews, but I would certainly spend a few months on it as you do not want to show a tutorial as a demonstration of your expertise and skills

[still condor]

FastAPI is technically an HTTP framework, but it doesn't do any of the hard parts (like HTTP payloads etc.) itself, it just wraps Starlette and a server like Uvicorn. You could do something like that, it's not very difficult

For example, you could only do request/response serialization and replace Pydantic with a different library (and maybe make it configurable)

[lilac sundial]

Cool cool

Any other ideas wb making my own server and db language like myswl

[smoky quest]

Pick any advanced topic from your school/curriculum

There is no shortage of topic. It's more about finding something interesting enough to you that would make it worth reading papers, textbooks and diving deeper

[lilac sundial]

Idc bout none of that just want fang, am prepared to do the above but i dount any of that will stick w me once past the interview
Once again im not downplaying your advice i think its very good and sound but i need a job rl quick before this ai stuff pops off

[near ocean]

You need a job real quick but you also just want faang, some of the most competitive and popular companies people apply to
That doesnt make sense

[smoky quest]

I understand you, but your competition will have done the advice I have recommended.
Short of nepotism or marrying some high up at the company of your choice, there won't be any shortcut

[deft herald]

It's already "popping off" tbh. IMO it's time for professional devs to start adapting

[lilac sundial]

To my understanding to get good ai roles u need maths and reaserch which im not good at or even just to incorporate it into ur current protfolio

[smoky quest]

Each job ad receives thousands of applications. You are gonna need to address these issues to stand out, otherwise you will not be called back

[deft herald]

Yeah. I'm not entirely talking about making AI, but more like learning how to leverage it

[lilac sundial]

Well is a year good enough recusrsive

[smoky quest]

It's about results, not effort.
So it depends how good you are

[fringe sphinx]

The questions you're asking are really hard to answer: there's no shortcut to top paying jobs. But, the path to becoming a SWE requires: learning, practicing, and looking for jobs. The jobs you can land depend on your amount of learning & practicing. A degree is important for many jobs.

Most people seeking SWE jobs have a 4 year degree. Some of them are really good, but not all.

And, some SWE jobs have lower requirements... and other jobs are SWE-adjacent, like testing/QA, which can be a stepping stone to a great career.

[lilac sundial]

Like that piratsoftware guy lol

Jkjk i get what u mean

[real trench]

I asked ChatGPT about the new AI troll and see what it responded when I used it on itself, AI can be a human threat in future

[real trench]

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[white relic]

!warn 1386227644856795146 Please read the #rules . You may not advertise services in this server.

[inner wren]

:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied warning to @leaden stag.

[rugged vessel]

😬

[sand hawk]

hi guys, how often do you have timed coding challenges in interviews ?

it's fun but when you're used to sluggish web platform development, you forgot how to speedrun a program design

[dense mesa]

What?

[scenic fern]

i have the same question :p

i was thinking bout somethin like CS50 introduction to AI or AI introduction courses in general

i want to head that direction (in a near future applyin that for electrical engineering)

[agile marsh]

I know it's a pretty stupid question but what are good majors to learn computer science and engineering with some touches of artificial intelligence in there too? I just started the CS50 Introduction to Python course so I want to see if there's any other courses I should follow after it and get a rough understanding of some majors.

[lilac yoke]

Majors meaning college degrees? The best major to learn computer science is going to be computer science.

[agile marsh]

Yea, I wanted to know if there's any other majors for like AI engineering or other forms of engineering that involve python I know networking is an option too

[peak halo]

It sounds like you misunderstand what "major" means. Can you explain what you think you're talking about?

[agile marsh]

When choosing courses for college you can choose a major if I understand it correctly

[peak halo]

You choose one major. Maybe two.

[agile marsh]

ahh ok

[peak halo]

Computer science is pretty much the one for all the things you mentioned

Like, networking isn't a separate major

[lucid fractal]

all i have is an ITF+ cert bc that’s all my teacher had us do lmao i also have a cybersecurity course do you guys think i can get a starter level job at some help desk or anything

[agile marsh]

Is there certain specialties or other things I could study during a computer science major?

[open ivy]

I mentioned before about finding obscure places where few applicants go. Remember that the difficulty is nonlinear, in that competing with 200 applicants is more than twice as hard as competing with 100 applicants.

Here is an example I didn't think of:
https://www.reddit.com/r/jobs/comments/1ml4uym/so_frustrated_after_seeing_this_job_hunt_secret/

This being newspapers. I am not sure if anyone else has experience with it?

Ironically, AI and other tech is making old-fashioned strategies relatively better.

This is a general rule that algoryhtims aren't helping people find each other for jobs or any social compat meetup.

I am not sure why this is? If the answer is Facebook et al profit from doomscrolling, then open source versions may be better? Open source dating apps, platonic apps, job boards anyone?

[smoky quest]

this is just grasping at straws

[open ivy]

It actually makes sense. Companies hate the flood of AI slop, and cellulose adverts are a good way to ensure very little AI.

[smoky quest]

not at all. Don't get misguided by random reddit posts claiming to have a secret or shortcut

[open ivy]

Don't you have your own strategy to find places with <100 apps or so?

[smoky quest]

my strategy is simple and effective: just be good

[lilac yoke]

yeah thats not really helping anyone

[smoky quest]

only if they aren't good or willing to upskill themselves

[open ivy]

It's so rare that job applications test me on technical skills.

If they did I think I would have an edge.

[lilac yoke]

my advice is to just take the computer science major, and sign up for the courses you find interesting (ai/ml, networking). don't limit yourself to just "engineering that involves python", python is just a tool

[smoky quest]

If I recall correctly, your main issue was your resume not standing out comparing to the other applicants? And thus not being called back?

Feel free to post an anonymized version of your resume for feedback and review

[open ivy]

Yes because I have very little industry experience. If I had 5 years at reasonably good companies it would be a different story.

[smoky quest]

Feel free to post your resume so you can get feedback. I am sure your projects could benefit from some TLC to stand out

[open ivy]

Yes I have to think about how best to keep going on my projects and advertise them.

[smoky quest]

yes and that's why getting regular feedback on your resume from actual professionals can be helpful

[open ivy]

Let me prepare a summary of my personal projects, then hopefully it can be condensed into resume format.

[slender cloak]

Hi

I'm looking for entry position, but I don't know my resume just don't get selected and even if I mail it to hr's they simply reply we have better candidates. Can I get little help into it.

https://mausamgiri.vercel.app

[past mauve]

How do I meet other developers i need more developer friends 💔

[peak halo]

There are other developers in this server. and we are all your friend.
One of us.

[past mauve]

True, I say u volunteer first

[peak halo]

Anyway, unless you want to talk about careers, you should use a different channel.

[lilac sundial]

Handsom boi

[lavish fiber]

Already done !

[lyric forge]

Handsom boi

[glass moss]

if my internship is frontend developer (web development) but the job i want to apply is machine learning. should i still mention it in my resume?

might be a stupid question but i realized too late that i want to be a machine learning engineer after finishing my internships

[rugged axle]

getting interviews but isnt getting selected
here is my website portfolio
https://x1vi.github.io/my-website/

@fringe sphinx Do u have time and want to be pinged ?

[tawdry arrow]

Hi guys,
I am a Python expert with 9 years of hands-on experience in developing efficient and scalable automation solutions. My expertise spans web automation, API integration, cloud workflows, and system-level scripting. I specialize in streamlining complex processes through intelligent, AI-driven automation tools. If you're looking for a reliable developer to optimize or automate your workflows.

[rugged axle]

are u unemployed ?

[tawdry arrow]

No

[rugged axle]

ok

[tawdry arrow]

But I find project.

[lilac sundial]

Ya juhani if u 🐍 then y u ☕ qahwa (java gng)

[marble wing]

Hey guys,

I finished my two projects recently

And I'm stuck between creating a progression website and a website that helps you code, what should i do. This is all for my portfolio, I don't intend to release this, just for practice.

[tawdry arrow]

I don't understand.

[regal axle]

If you don’t intend to publish it anyways, a progression website can be nice. Even if just for being like a journal for yourself

[marble wing]

Hmmm okay, and how do i get ideas for projects?

[regal axle]

Depends what type of programming you want to do. Generally the best is trying to either solve a problem you actually have. Or to learn about something you really want to learn.
Trying to make something to solve someone else’s problems is harder and typically not as good. The thing you make doesn’t matter nearly as much as how well you can talk about it and what you learned

!kindling but if you still need some type of list.

[inner wren]

Kindling Projects

The Kindling projects page contains a list of projects and ideas programmers can tackle to build their skills and knowledge.

[marble wing]

Hmmm, alright

[marble wing]

Yo damn this actually useful, thanks

[lilac yoke]

yeah absolutely, all professional development experience is relevant

[glass moss]

internships do count as work experience right?

[lilac yoke]

of course

[glass moss]

thank you!

[bright wing]

Hi guys, about a month ago I finished an Intro to Python Programming course by CS50 about a month ago, but ever since then, I haven’t really done anything with what I’ve learnt. Any ideas on what I should do to improve my skills?

[lilac yoke]

What are you interested in? What would you like to make?

[last moat]

i know java is industry standard for test automation but what tech stack is required for python based test automation job

[bright wing]

Im good w. anything, just looking to improve my skills

[rugged axle]

The job just keeps on getting tougher and tougher with crazy requirements for latency

[waxen sand]

Guys what are the ways I could get into tech industry /companies ? I have been constantly applying since 2-3months and there have been zero responses. What can I do to start earning (like what options are besides normal job?). I know this is bit odd to ask but gotta do it to improve

[peak halo]

what qualifications do you have? what are your "resume highlights"?

[thin grail]

@bright wing hi

[bright wing]

Hi @thin grail

[versed hollow]

Hi guys, I have a question. Would you recommend someone in their 20s to start learning JavaScript and then React these days to build a career?

[near ocean]

When would you build a career ideally if not your 20s

[lilac yoke]

Your skills are shown through projects that you are passionate about

Learning every detail about Python can’t go on a resume, but showing it through industry relevant projects will.

[versed hollow]

No, I’m more concerned about the programming part.

[near ocean]

Are you looking to get into web dev? JS and react are a strong path

[lilac yoke]

I advise people to stay away from front end web development, especially without a degree. It’s way too competitive since the bar to entry is almost 0

Nonetheless, if you want to try your hand at it, React and typescript will be a good starting point

[versed hollow]

Can i make money out of it , after a year into it?

[lilac yoke]

It’s not unheard of, with great networking and lot of luck sure. There’s better paths I can guarantee you will have a job in if you are just interested in tech in general

[versed hollow]

I want jobs more in Freelance area, but what paths would you suggest?

[lilac yoke]

If you want a job in tech in under a year (and the area interests you), can’t go wrong with becoming a network engineer. All you need to do is get your CCNA certification and you will find a good paying job. It’s a great starting point, you can pursue tons of other careers from there like SRE or DevOps engineer, cyber security, system administration, etc.

Certainly could become a systems or software engineer with network engineer experience as well. Safer than college even.

[versed hollow]

Is it possible to work as a freelancer with this experience, or is it mainly for full-time jobs?

[lilac yoke]

I’ve never heard of a freelance network engineer. Only full time.

[versed hollow]

Hmm, alright tnx.

[modern yarrow]

Hi

[west crag]

Since chatgpt, lovable.dev exists
You can simply ask chatgpt to write you a prompt for an app, and lovable.dev can make you that app using that prompt, won't this affect someone like me who is trying to pursue cybersecurity?

[tidal vault]

Hi guys, I’m on track to go to uni from September to study computer science in the uk if I get the grades required next week, I’ve been hearing from a lot of people that have recently graduated that it’s a nightmare to find internships and jobs, and I’m really debating my choices as this is my whole future. Anyone have any advice or perspectives on this and maybe any insight into the job market . Thank you

[lilac yoke]

Yes. Cybersecurity is as important as ever, especially since chatgpt and lovable are making horrible insecure apps

[warped mirage]

That has some truth. Getting internships is hard. A lot of people don't have experience. And if you do, you could be one of a thousand who applied for the same internship and doing the same degree, same predicted grades and have some work experience. It all depends if u are proactive and plan beforehand to try and get some work experience or something to make u stand out when applying for internships. Apart from that, you will have a good time going to university. You will meet a lot of people. Don't forget to make connections/friends at university. The university probably will have a career specialist team which can help you out whether it is writing up a CV or offering advise on applying for specific internships.

[vapid jay]

No dude, don’t learn anything ever. Your 20s, that’s too late. You have to be about when you are 17-18, otherwise Java script and all that, is out the window. No way, just stop.

[burnt ore]

🙂

[visual flax]

Yo is it worth it doing an internship through a program?
and taking a year to do that instead of something else? I'm an electrical engineer but the internship is in project management

[lilac yoke]

Project management at an EE focused company?

[harsh river]

<@&831776746206265384>

[hoary wadi]

Hlo guys

[finite crag]

i made this animation in about 30 seconsd HAHAHAAHAH

[sleek geyser]

Hello! Can anyone review my resume privately in DMs?

[harsh river]

you can send your anonymized resume here for a review

[harsh river]

<@&831776746206265384>

[smoky quest]

While AI can be seen as an enabler, there were no link established between the layoffs and AI/chatgpt

it has more to do with interest rate + tax law changes + post-covid than AI

assuming your thesis is true, you would be able to find data/graphs matching that thesis that would also fit in the tech market graphs and offset by non-junior jobs

yes, and you will note that 2 out of these three factors have changed since then

[visual flax]

AT a random company

[sand hawk]

Slight suggestion: don't go full frontend (react angular or else) learn backend too, 50/50 i'd say. From my little experience, frontend knowledge is not as critical or long term value for companies

[smoky quest]

that article is quite sloppy in terms of data analysis

[hollow temple]

Hello everyone

[visual flax]

I already feel like an old man at college. Everyone already looks like a kid. I really wanted to take a gamble and try to get an internship without a promise.

[delicate swift]

Oh.
Well, twenty-five is rather young by... any standards, really.
It's not uncommon to see students at all stages of life in college

My oldest classmate was sixty-something years old, IIRC

[visual flax]

Yea sure but I feel like this internship will push back my timeline to getting a stable job in engineering.

[harsh river]

when i went at 21 it was awful to be amongst 18 y/o fresh out of hs, my condolences

[delicate swift]

Well
It's up to you, at the end of the day.
Do you think that the skills you may acquire during your internship plus the experience is worth the delay?

[visual flax]

Nope not even a little bit really. But I guess yhe experience can help me land an engineering internship?

[delicate swift]

Personally, I think that the soft-skills you may earn during your internships may come very handy during interviews, networking, and just day-to-day life at work

[delicate swift]

I happened to be the youngest in my class
It was not terrible, but it wasn't great with the sheer condescension though.

[visual flax]

I guess, it kills me to have to delay my education a whole another year. But I don't have a choice

[delicate swift]

Yeah. I can see your point of view
Why do you need it? Are there no other internship options available or that you can potentially apply to?

[visual flax]

I don't have any prior experience. So idk if I'd be able to get an internship my junior year.

[delicate swift]

Internships are there for that, experience

I'm not entirely sure how the hiring process differs to EE, but you should definitely apply to all opportunities that you can
Many don't really require prior experience
That's how I landed my first despite not being particularly impressive, at least

[waxen sand]

MTech in CS, I know django, reactjs

[narrow cave]

i am new to this server can anybody give a lil bit intro what this server actually do?

[fringe sphinx]

We talk about programming. Mostly the python language.

#python-discussion is the main channel

[narrow cave]

Oh, thanks buddy. I am making projects, can I share them here too for testing?

[fringe sphinx]

If you'd like a code review, ask in #1035199133436354600

Each channel has a specific topic, this topic is Careers

[narrow cave]

thank you very much for your advice

[lilac sundial]

Hello guys

[waxen sand]

.

[surreal mulch]

Anyone hold data/business analytics roles here?

[near ocean]

You cant recruit here

[fringe sphinx]

Recruiting is not allowed on this server, your post has been deleted.

[dusty moon]

Hey everyone, I have a career question. I’m currently working as a Logistics Analyst full time and hold dual bachelor’s degrees in Mathematics and Computer Science. My objective is to pivot into a Software Engineering job . Would it be realistic to think that after a year in my current position, I could pivot into software engineering? Is it possible to climb the corporate ladder this way, or is progression immutable? Has anyone here had a similar experience?

[peak halo]

what was the chronology for getting those two degrees and starting the logistics analyst job. did you get the math one, then start the logistics analyst job, then get the CS degree? or something else?
You can probably just start applying to software development jobs, or see if there's a way to do a lateral move to that within your current company.

[dusty moon]

First Math realized it was too esoteric to find work, and then computer science degree and then logistics analyst. That is my goal only issue I learned is that you can get typecasted into a role.

[peak halo]

maybe post your resume in this channel for review

[dusty moon]

Sure gotta edit it first.

[dusty moon]

Resume if anyone is interested, my goal is to move onto software engineering in current company or another if possible.

[fallow chasm]

Hi all,
I am struggling for what to put on my github to demonstrate my skills.

I sort of want to make youtube videos explaining basic things like OOP and class definition and modification but i dont know how useful that would be.

[rain juniper]

i used to be an investment analyst and have also done some coding ( 6month bootcamp + 10 month actual coding on the job) back in the day. However its been a decade since I have last written any code. I did a full stack web development boot camp and from there on went to work for a fintech company basically writing web crawler and other data wrangling stuff. I am now returning to the job market and have cleared the investement research part of my interview. But I have a python related interview tomorrow. i was only asked for this interview on friday. So i have prepared as best as i can and i am 100% confident that it will be like riding a bike once i get into it. however practically i am sure i wont be able to answer all questions tomorrow. So is this an okay thing to say in the interview that I remember the logics and I am confident that I can pick up coding related things as required however I will need help and reference for the syntax and how to of coding for a bit? or something to that effect?

[versed hollow]

What about freelancing

[sand hawk]

it's orthogonal so your skillset i'd say

[versed hollow]

Ok, so what in backend should i learn?

[sand hawk]

rest api, relational database, message / work queue

[modest kraken]

Probably put experience and projects first

Unless your uni is like very good

[sand hawk]

@versed hollow most of the time, customers store more critical informations in db, being able to extends that, migrate data for new features, do analytics (again imho) seems more stable long term

[versed hollow]

Ok, tnx.

[sand hawk]

good luck

[barren prairie]

Anyone has experience in getting a remote sde offer in europe?

[cedar peak]

Hi

[mortal coral]

Hi, i graduated in 2020 with my masters in probability and stats, for various reasons i ended up in education and nonprofits but am currently taking a data analytics bootcamp. I understand the math but im shit at coding. My education was essentially preparing me for a data science job which im woefully not ready for. But as i get closer to finishing this bootcamp what can I be doing to prep for interviews and look for jobs. My vision is that I'll be prepared for an entry level data analyst job and then slowly move back up to data scientist. But since i have a lot of soft skills not technical (yet), i feel like idk how to advertise myself

[peak halo]

Data science isn't actually a different thing from applied stats. Imo, "data science" never should have become a thing that people say.

I think you should be able to just start applying for jobs. Do you want to get your resume reviewed here?

[mortal coral]

@peak halo thank you! I definitely do but i really dont have much in the way of applied stats to highlight. Gimme a minute to update it and ill add it to the thread, thank you!

[peak halo]

I'll probably be signing off soon, but other people will probably give feedback as they visit the channel.

[mortal coral]

Thanks again

[mortal coral]

When someone has time, can you review my resume and help me pare it down and steer it closer to data analytics?

[peak halo]

I'm going to sign off for real now, but your resume should be one page. Just put as much of your most relevant experience as you can reasonably fit on one page.

@mortal coral

[mortal coral]

Thanks. Yes, i agree, i'm still trying to figure out what to remove but i imagine the volunteer stuff can go. And then removing some of the various details from the teaching jobs. I still havent updated it for my bootcamp experience yet

[hoary wadi]

In future data science and data analysis have a scope

[wanton hazel]

Hello, Who needs Python Expert?
Skills: Python/Flask/FastAPI/AI Integration/ChatBot

[ember vigil]

this (as in the server, not just this channel) isn't the place for that

[smoky quest]

As a reviewer, 2 main things come to mind reading your resume:

• Make it one page
• Your first words on your resume are "determined data scientist", and while you graduated 5.5 years ago, I don't see anything related to data science since then. It makes it difficult to want to call you back and fail to see any determination

If you want to apply to data science jobs, your resume should make you feel like one. In this case, it means having projects or anything that show you are worth talking to as a data scientist.

[mild cosmos]

How can I know wether if tech or medicine is the right thing for me?

Sorry, this is so out of the blue.

[remote yacht]

I made very different experience in the 'real life'. Nobody in the Human Resource department cares about your fancy projects. First filter is degree. Second filter in work experience. If you pass the 1st interview (again with HR people who never coded in their life) you might get a 2nd interview with people who actually understand your projects. I was never asked about my github repos (tbh if I would hire its the first thing i would look at ... but in real life 99% dont care even its highly relevant). Don't forget it's a number game. Write as many applications you can and take ever interview because it will make you routine and more confident. Much success!

[smoky quest]

try things, explore the different jobs, see what they actually do and how you vibe with it

[mild cosmos]

Ah, gotcha. I'm not sure if i'll be able to explore medicine quite enough. It's still worth it, though. Thanks for the heads up!

[smoky quest]

it depends
If you graduated 5.5 years ago and claim to be passionate, then I want to understand what happened and see how you are still passionate about it. That goes through a degree and projects since you already graduated. If you have had no relevant work experience and no project over the past 5.5 years, it does put into question your passion.

In terms of degree itself, it's great! But imagine you and all your classmates apply to the same job. Who am I supposed to call back? That's where projects and internships make a huge difference.

Overall, it's true it is a numbers game, but you do need to make sure you have fair chances. If your resume is below average, it doesn't matter if you send it 10 billion times, you are unlikely to get any call back

[smoky quest]

why wouldn't you be able to explore it?
Be bold and ask your doctor about it, go stalk on linkedin and see what schools people go to and what jobs they get in the end

[mild cosmos]

I might try and look for relatives I could maybe participate in their "typical day as a doctor". That's mostly what came to my mind, honestly. I find what you suggested extremely relavant, I am surely going to do it!

[smoky quest]

and be open minded to adjacent fields. For instance bioinformatic or any field that is across both

[mild cosmos]

Will do, thanks!

[regal holly]

Any platform for freshers to work on freelancer

[jade sparrow]

hi

[keen geyser]

Hello

[mortal coral]

Good catch, yeah I totally agree. thank you!

[mortal coral]

Interesting. I'm currently in the process of immigrating to Portugal so it might be a different experience there. If I'm aiming to highlight my education as #1, should I make it more broad at the top? Follow it with projects, then work experience? and just leave out the stuff from more than 2 years ago or just mention them briefly so there aren't gaps?

[mortal coral]

Thank you. I totally agree. I'm taking a bootcamp right now and trying to find projects to do that line up with the types of jobs I want. In your experience, is there a way I should target projects? I really just want an entry level job and want to leverage the fact that I have people skills and can do the analysis and do the presentation on them. but as far as biostats vs product analysis... i'm unsure. I've been looking through Kaggle for datasets to play with and everything looks cool so it's like option overload lol

[mortal coral]

You could volunteer in a hospital/medical setting. For tech, maybe there are some kids afterschool programs that have an engineering/tech hour that you could lend a hand in. depends if you have time, bandwidth, and if it's physically accessible

[remote yacht]

ok only 1 thing. you changine some 0.0x% success when rearranging/perfectionizing .... you would have better spent in "ye thats alright" and start applying

[mortal coral]

I don't disagree but that's where I have to start (fiancé already lives there and easiest to get into as an American) but you're right

My ideal would be work a remote american job while looking for a job there and then working both jobs, since my visa will the job seeker visa because it's faster

Is it possible that i can just us a VPN?

😅🤣 right

[hard musk]

Hi there I think that i need a quick job if someone can help me

[near ocean]

You can find quick jobs at your local grocery, restaurants, retail stores
Theres no such thing as a quick tech job

[hard musk]

I just need a remote jobs

[near ocean]

You dont get those on discord

[peak halo]

@hard musk you can't ask for jobs in this server.
you can't really find "quick remote jobs" that involve programming.

[hard musk]

Oh okay sorry about that

[deft current]

ur not wrong tho but i guess a programmer person would not like that

[hard agate]

anywhere to do code reviews?

[peak halo]

you can make a thread for that in #1035199133436354600

[hard agate]

Thank you !

[wraith harbor]

i started a new job a month or so ago, i was hired to work on some firmware stuff. theyve given me a really big backend project, something they know ive never done before. what should i make of this, am i being set up to fail? or should i think of this maybe as a good opportunity? it will require a lot of learning on my part to accomplish, which i dont hate. but, its a lot of pressure because its a really important project for the company. from their pov I dont really think they should trust the new guy with such a big task

but yeah idk, curious if anyone has had any experiences learning something on the job in a high pressure situation like this, and how it mightve went for them

[peak halo]

did they have reason to believe that you'd be able to do it with minimal mentorship?

from the company's perspective, it would make zero sense to hire someone and immediately set them up to fail so they can fire them. Hiring someone is expensive for the company.

[near ocean]

Believe in yourself the way bad, inexperienced managers believe in the new hire fixing all their problems

[deep geyser]

Hey

[wraith harbor]

they liked how i did some other projects that werent on my resume. you guys are both right though i just gotta believe in myself 🙏 im being a little paranoid i still feel like this job is too good to be true

[deep geyser]

Instead of being advanced and demanded for python careers, i am thinking to start building LLM project, so will it be good start ?!

[peak halo]

only large companies with incredible resources can build an LLM from scratch. and even fine-tuning them requires enterprise hardware. as an individual, the most you can probably do is wrap existing LLMs.

[deep geyser]

You mean that I can do something better and more qualified

[peak halo]

I don't fully understand what you're saying.
what is your goal?

[deep geyser]

Actually I have many goals 😭

But what i mean to build advanced projects to use in my portfolio to be qualified for any job

So what is the best to start with

[peak halo]

portfolio projects can't really land you a job in AI or machine learning if you don't already have a degree.

[deep geyser]

My college is not related to the field of Ai and Ml but i am into programming and ai from my childhood

[peak halo]

you might need to go back to college/university for AI, then.

[deep geyser]

It is so confused

But i think it is not to hard for someone who has longtime learning ai and python to have a job

[peak halo]

every AI job is going to get several applications from people who have advanced degrees in AI, so the companies will probably never choose to interview someone who has only been studying python and AI on their own.

[lavish bear]

what’s python (I’m a visual learner)

[peak halo]

a programming language. (I'm a tastual learner. like, with my tongue.)

[lavish bear]

wym

[peak halo]

I'm curious--how did you find this server?

Python is something you use to write computer programs.

[lavish bear]

i saw people talking about this and using the snek tag so I joined

[lavish bear]

oh okay

[peak halo]

you can go to #python-discussion if you want to learn more.

[deep geyser]

Even if have a verified certificates or something like that