(My goal is still to get us to buy https://oxide.computer/ and move our compute off AWS)
#ot1-perplexing-regexing
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(Very uphill battle despite the insanely fast projected break-even)
We spend the price of a fully-loaded Oxide rack every month on AWS.
Yeah, for anything that can't have an exporter onboard with it. A K8 cluster, for example, can have that agent built right in. No need for log groups.
Long-term (though short-term at the pace we're moving) would be to have all apps instrument an OpenTelemetry library and just fire off their telemetry data to [some endpoint here] which would route it to [vendor of the year here]
Otel is wonderful.
But we still need the two other paths for apps that can't implement an otel solution. So, in my head, my preference in order would be
- Send the logs/metrics via Otel to a common collector
- Have an agent deployed to handle the collection from stdout
- Subscribe a collector to log groups (again collecting stdout)
Holy Sweet Laser-Jesus, indentation isn't meaningful in the ssh_config file syntax?
It's purely for readability aaaaahh
The `[Match] canonical` keyword matches only when the configuration file is being re-parsed after hostname canonicalization (see the CanonicalizeHostname option). This may be useful to specify conditions that work with canonical host names only.
The `[Match] final` keyword requests that the configuration be re-parsed (regardless of whether CanonicalizeHostname is enabled), and matches only during this final pass. If CanonicalizeHostname is enabled, then canonical and final match during the same pass.``` please come, sweet embrace of death
Oh hey, I think I like this better than oauth2-proxy... https://www.pomerium.com/docs
Pomerium is an open source identity-aware proxy built around the principles of BeyondCorp and zero trust. It secures your internal applications, servers, services, and workloads by continually verifying a user's identity, device state, and request context before granting access.
TIL, the Swedish NTP network is implemented in hardware/FPGA: https://github.com/Netnod/FPGA_NTP_SERVER/
150k requests/sec
I've never thought about "line rate NTP" before but I guess this is it
NAS back, snow leopards folder accessible
look at this
pumkin
venessa
アメ
ムリカ
Have you ever seen one irl
hell yeh
.bm
i found the song that i somehow recalled for the past two nights from the pandemic era
or rather, i rediscovered it
:D
what's the song
Anyone using Firefox here? Could you try the following steps:
- go to https://decorator-factory-clones.github.io/firefox-crash-reproducer-1/
- Open the "Performance" tab in devtools (F12) and start profiling, then open the Console
- Start drawing on the canvas. For each stroke, a message will be logged in the console. After about 20-100, does it crash?
for me it crashes only while profiling it... weird
and annoying, since the point of this project is to profile the memory for tracking undos
TIN - Ticking
profiling with the "web development" setting doesn't crash my firefox at all
Firefox 138.0.4 Windows_NT 10.0 19044
thanks
maybe it's a Linux only thing
Adding this doesn't cause the crash: ```js
let uwu = 0
setInterval(() => {
console.log("boop", uwu)
uwu += 1
const pixels = ctx.getImageData(0, 0, canvas.width, canvas.height)
undoStack.push(pixels)
})

oh look
hallucinating or forgets how to count?
overthinking
TETO MENTIOEND
yeah tbf ado more likely to dominate the world here
what a silly name
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stats bot sent a meme, idk what to feel about this
What are these channel names 💀
!offtopic - shortly explained here
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Ahh
@bleak maple https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=It791Lr0SXU 😄
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Uh oh, is this AI metal? Lemme click haha
no brother! this is certified american heavy fucking metal
spun off from as i lay dying 😄
Yay!
that crazy dude! tim, that did that crazy shit did all this.
the drums and everything lol
it was a solo project by him
I love that stuff.. a couple of my favorite solo albums are:
https://vvilderness.bandcamp.com/album/dark-waters (has a guest female vocalist)
and
https://vintersorg.bandcamp.com/album/till-fj-lls
what the fuck is this otn 😭
Man the first two Cheech & Chong movies are so good
teto
this is so cursed
thats kinda sick ngl
3 legs
@ornate dew its for nix language
How did you get the badge??
settings
Guide me plss
you might not see it if you're not in any servers that have those badges enabled or if discord didn't add you to whatever experiment flag controls your access
bannable for one mod, otn for another 🥴
i crave beef stew. however
- it's 1 a.m. and everyone else is asleep
- i have no mony
Welp
Time to get good at hallucinations
I guess no beef stew then.
OMG I just found an unopened game device in my house and casually went to see what they sell for on eBay..
(These are completed listings)
Madness.
How tf you have an unopened 3dsxl SPECIAL EDITION
this is like me suddenly finding access to my old Bitcoin wallet
Haha I am bad at getting around to my games I guess.
(I wish I hadn't been so against Bitcoins from the beginning, I had total access to an idle GPU cluster at the time and could have just been PRINTING them.)
Mistake of my life thus far I guess.
I think my wallet had like...half a dozen
without context this sounds 🥀
though the "half a dozen" definitely sounds better than "6"
would it even be possible for it to get as valuable if the people who got it early didnt like waste or forget the data
(im clueless on anything ~economy)
tbf given the context any number with something to the left of the decimal point sounds great already
wait i'm trying to process what i just said
I believe the peak of BTC was ~115k
thingy . jhingy
# <- the decimal point
# ^^^^^^ to the left of it
0.1 # can be shortened to `.1`, so "nothing" to the left of the decimal point
1.2 # damn it has something to the left of the decimal point!!! thats amazing
thank you i guess..?
average interaction between two least socially awkward beings
i could've been getting bitcoin in 2009 but i was too busy being a baby —へ—
I'm in a similar-but-smaller-numbers situation on Steam right now with my Team Fortress and Counter-Strike inventory.
I really want to keep it for nostalgia/etc but god damn are the numbers getting silly.
You couldn't have known where it would go. Nobody did. That's why only a few people are rich now.
It's like, even the people who did invest in it probably did it for the wrong reason.
Especially the knives, god damn:
cursed
I can't believe I have agent skins worth over $100, that's silly
mfw red pixels worth whole paid education in russia
I'd sell that shit immediately. I can't relate to the idea of having nostalgia over a collection like this, but then again, I guess only people with this sentiment would have a valuable collection like this in the first place.
ruby mentioned!!
I just sold 4 cases for like 15 each
Nice!
(I wish the Ruby community had embraced WASM early/hard, could have maybe averted some of the current JS disaster...)
i have been trying to somehow make up DHH from the data, with H and D being the first letters of the words
if only the rank was 100, then could interpret the digits as indices into HD...
thats the kind of shit that keeps me up at night ngl
Ugh, even the Team Fortress stuff is super valuable now.. I don't really want to part with it but..
Stop complaining about how rich you are.
Well I guess I'm complaining I'll never realize the profits because I'm too sentimental to part with it 😦
Maybe I should get some heirs or something :V
if you ever need a heir, one's over here :p
-# /j
I'm somewhat of a capitalist myself
(that's approximately $0.0013)
banabke
oh l and k are very close on qwerty to be fair
Mobile moment
I also volunteer to be an heir if there is a position still available
That's a fun idea, maybe I should leave some stuff to the Python Discord to randomly give away etc. I'm about to update my will actually...
Right now I leave a fair amount to the Electronic Frontier Foundation.
Whomst?
to pydis, my vast collection of assorted python scripts
I should leave my duck paintings to pydis
(I bought a few paintings from duckomenta: https://www.duckomenta-shop-international.com/)
ill take your money
thanks for being so kind
oops

bro thinks i can read that
obscure vocaloid song reference
So... frontend question: I have something like this:
<label>Foo
<fieldset>
<input value="#" disabled>
<input>
</fieldset>
</label>
Looks fine, but clicking on the label attempts to focus the first input instead of the second. Can I control that somehow?
Ah, found it: <label for=...> works despite this nesting.
(The disabled input is for visual reasons, so I can have this prefix thing "inside" the input.)
You guys ever wondered why a lot of cities were built next to the coastline?
colonies
either that or their economy revolved around the ocean
think trading with other countries: a capital city where you have lots of people, lots of jobs and good being produced, and many clients overseas
before something like planes, we had ships
so if you were by the water, it would be way easier to trade with other countries
and even then, the colonies traded with their home country

at least that's my best guess
stuff that isn't python
well
it's basically anything
say what you want
it’s good, very nice
being honest I do not know anything about python, I have only talked about the subject with my roomies, they could say that if they know
i want to learn :v
!res
Resources
The Resources page on our website contains a list of hand-selected learning resources that we regularly recommend to both beginners and experts.
these are primarily english resources btw
you seem pretty good at english 
at least i've never heard a translate app say "roomies" before
wow thank you very much, everything is useful to me
i use a translator called reverse and explains what I say
Roomie for me = housemate
Good app
Is lucid dreaming harmful?
outside of contrived situations, no.
Mentally it can be
I used to do it on purpose all the time as a teenager
I got really got at it
Then one day I got stuck and couldn't wake up
Eventually busy determined that I had died and that the afterlife was just a dream
Waking up after spending a lot of time pondering on the fact that I was dead was...a trip
I have never intentionally entered a lucid dream since. And the one time I realized I was in a dream afterwards I also was unable to wake up intentionally AND was being chased by some relentless monster
never lucid dreamed, but I did have a lot of lucid nightmares where I think to myself "man wouldn't it be terrible if that happened" and then that actually happens
sleep paralysis
im pretty aware of when it happens to me so its just more annoying than scary
oh yeah that shit sucks so bad
like jesus let me open my eyes
Nah that's different. I've had that too. Sleep paralysis you're awake but can't move and don't have control over the dream that's invading the real world
The couple of times that happened I wasn't particularly bothered by it
I found the difference to be quite extreme
Apples to oranges
Sleep paralysis: I can't move and there's a demon breathing on my neck behind me but I'm conscious and aware of my room around me
Stuck in a lucid dream: I've died. I didn't tell my loved ones I loved them enough. This is what the afterlife is? So there really is no higher power. Interesting. This void is weird. Man I'm going to have a lot of time to resent my entire life. I really don't mind being dead I guess.
I went through a pretty wild emotional rollercoaster that night
I was also still a teenager, in a very bad place in life. It didn't help
I sometimes have like not sleep paralysis, because I am able to move fine, but like some dream like delusion while waking up. not like a hallucination, I actually have my eyes closed. but like just my brain is convinced it has to do something before I am allowed to wake up, naturally its some dream nonsense, like I think the last time I couldnt manage to get out of bed until I had mentally beaten a angry birds level.
And I was fully convinced it was a thing I had to do, I was literally thinking "god isnt it annoying how everyone has to do this, who thought this was a good idea"
Lmaooo that's crazy
I one time had a dream about aliens that bled into the waking world for like 10 minutes
this was kinda sick ngl
dreams are wild. I have a friend who swears he went to sleep one night. woke up in the bed as another
person living a different life in the dream. Lived out this "dream life" for like two weeks.
Went to sleep one night in the dream and when he woke up he was back in his bed in his
normal life.
he said while in the dream he had no clue it was a dream. it was as real as waking life.
fucking wild shit
it took me the longest to believe him but after seeing how he changed after that
I decided he more than likely wasn't bs'ing me
imagine him being sleeping again cuz he thinks this reality is gonna unravel
damn i wish i had some hot wings 😕
😋 mmm
egss so high i'm gonna buy some chickens. not kidding lol
not gonna eat my chickens though. just the eggs!
that would be a bit much for me and my sensitive ❤️ 😄
okay but why are people getting paranormal dreams and i'm not
the most i've experienced was getting stuck in a nested sleep paralysis dream in my own house without a monster and a weird lucid dream where i was getting shot at(?) by yellow streaks of light while stuck in the covers of my bed
what do you mean by paranormal dreams exactly ?
something i can't get out of?
are you talking about being lucid while in the dream and not being able to wake up?
because if you're not even aware that you're dreaming then what is there to "get out of*?
not sure how to define it...
if i was stuck and well aware, that's scary
if i woke up from a dream that felt like days or weeks in some other reality, aware or not, that would be scary too
how old are you if I may?
15
you're still very young. If you wanna experience lucidity (which can be a frightening experience) then just meditating about it before falling asleep can bring on such an experience.
Research "lucid dream experiences/how to become lucid in dreams" if you're interested.
"meditating" in this sense implies putting more energy/attention into lucidity
than just "thinking" about it
I may think "i'm gonna tie my shoe" and I tie my shoe in 2 seconds.
but If I meditate on tying my shoe then I could think about this for 10 minutes and
envision the process/steps needed to tie the laces. Going through mental images the
entire time. lol
This fairness to me too but IIRC it was just a few days in the dream not weeks
I barely dream
Never had weird shit go down during the few ones i have had/remember
My allergy medication has as very rare side effect (so rare that the reported frequence is listed as "unknown/insufficient" below the ones that happen in a small fraction of percent of people)
Which causes vivid dreams
And for some crazy reason, stops them from being so easily forgotten
I'm one of those tiny fraction of a percent of people
I want that side-effect from one of my meds! I haven’t remembered dreaming in a long while 😦
They get wild
Ig build up of carbon monoxide or smthn
I read somewhere that build up of carbon monoxide can cause hallucinations
And it was one of the big reasons why ppl thought ghosts existed
But they were actually just hallucinating cuz of poor ventilation
that kills me 😭
ever since i got these iems
ive been starting to appreciate more mainstream music 😢
they're just so well mixed
@tropic ore @thick ore r u two really matching?
Lmao
i was the one who thought that btw
who called
SPACES?
Please re-read the first line in #voice-verification carefully
Sorry sir 👀
whist we still doing some shenanigans
furry.count() > weeabos.count() or furry.count()<weeabos.count();
True
could be false
But is isnt
first it was mfs in #python-discussion saying to go ot
now it's mfs in ot saying go back to #python-discussion 😭
No I said it just to access it
Because I couldn’t find it
Don’t call me mother****** when I’m just trying to access it
It’s not beneficial to say
Think before you speak
Why couldnt you find it
Did you mess up the server structure
You can find hidden channels if you click on Browse Channels
it's called a joke
you can swear in this server
fuck
toasting your spices in oil has such a huge effect sometimes, I bought a spice mix the other day and tried adding it to plain instant noodles (indomie) and it tasted pretty meh, I tried sautteeing it with some veggies and the whole house started to smell like a Chinese restaurant
Some flavor compounds are water soluble, others are fat soluble
Also toasting spices in general helps release the aromas
huge in asian cuisines
yeah
Tempering is a cooking technique used in India, Bangladesh, Nepal, Pakistan, and Sri Lanka in which whole spices (and sometimes also other ingredients such as dried chillies, minced ginger root or sugar) are cooked briefly in oil or ghee to liberate essential oils from cells and thus enhance their flavours, before being poured, together with the...
i only recently learned it and it has been a huge updgrade
we do use this technique in our cooking but very differently from how asia does it
what we usually do is we fry some garlic and spices in olive oil and then we pour that toasty mix on top of the food
fried garlic is great, its kind of like that one italian garlic pasta dish whose name i cannot recall
cinnamon is a unique one in that combo to me
i have never seen cinnamon in my life
bro…
you need to try it
cinnamon and ginger is a S tier combo
in savory dishes
The only time I ever got a deadline at my job was for our application to go live on our VM. For features and bug fixes, I don’t get deadlines because I tend to get those done in a considerable about of time
ah yeah i have one too down in the south we call those knives /j
We have deadlines every quarter but you dont see me stressing about them
Still dont understand why we have scheduled releases
what
Wack
I’m pretty sure deadlines are common in the industry
Shits gotta get done in a timely fashion
Nobody in here is making the claim that it isn’t
Ok? I’m just saying it’s a bit weird
Your reply was “Wack” and I figured your following statement was supporting your reasoning why it was wack
not necessarily. Real life is not a debate
you'd be fired on day one given your track record /sj
if you work with security deadlines are very important
because security needs to know when the critically vulnerable software is going to be patched
then devs proceed to not listen to security
its great actually
have anyone trried to finetune thier ai model ever?
ohh yeah mines fire hold on
this guy is so fuckin cool
🙏
your llm?
this is my gpt profile
is it your chatbot not large language model?
uh well gpt is an LLM
alright
AI slop
that sounds great how did you train it on whihc dataset?
This sounds a lot like hello fellow kids
how did you prapare your dataset? bro? @green pelican
its so bad
genz style
Talk like a member of Gen Z.
this is the rule 💀
SKIBIDI RIZZ ALERT 🗣💥 skibidi toilet in the SIEM logs??? Nahhh bro we got a threat actor doing the sigma grindset in our DMZ 💀
What’s up, you tryna cook some malware, harden a box, or skibidi your way through a packet capture? 🧻📦🕵️♂️
LMAO
i said "skibidi bro"
i'm really curios how did you trian your ai 😂
bruh
skibidi
can somone finetune on cpu? or it's gonna blast?
API ? I don't know a lot so asking
you'll be waiting forever
i finetuned my gpt2 model and i'm not waiting i guess
just put the fries in the bag already
GPT2?
on god
GTP2 is one of the weakest models, so makes sense
model from hugging face
not talkign about chatgpt
link it
that's opensource just search huggingface gpt2 model
right, GPT2 was the earliest chatgpt version
it's also not fully open source afaik
https://huggingface.co/openai-community/gpt2-large
you really coudn't find it?
i did find it.
that doesn't change what i said:
right, GPT2 was the earliest chatgpt version
oh i gues i misunderstood..
this also says
The resulting dataset (called WebText) weights 40GB of texts but has not been publicly released.
which means it's not fully open source
really?
yes
damn it i just finetuned gpt2 model...
Sometimes ai is so confusing
@spare oriole did you made it yourself? https://www.codeflash.ai/
looks good tbh
it's from work, i'm also working on it yes
freelance?
then you\re really a pro 🔥
I'm trying to make an ai to make it understand user input and numbers and logic. it's a part of my dream app idea...
I have 0 knowledge on building ai LLM
Can you suggest and advice me a bit how can i do it? dataset probably and now thinking to use gpt2-large using collab to make it fast.
full time
oh nice
how much experience do you have coding
javascript dart python react and typescript just about to learn
how much experience
oh i just started 3 months ago
so you probably dont have enough knowledge to get into AI/ML yet
or you're just jumping around a lot of topics after just getting the basics
im not saying that trying things is bad, but 3 months.. 3 languages, thats.. no knowledge depth
ouch

nah... I trying more for more than a year i started to work on them 3 months ago
idk if this is even AI lol
LLMs
common i just wanted some advice from you guys i respect your knowledge i don't have anyone to guide and no any networks... Life just started to give some hope... i can't burn this now 😭
would you like us to give you false hope or to be realistic?
it took openAI a full team and lots of money to get to the point of GPT2
and probably a few PhDs
You did get some advice.
The advice is to go deeper on each topic.
@wooden silo @green pelican @spare oriole Thanx everyone i appriciate your honesty 
so that topic is finetunign LLM right
why i'm not able to send messasge and speak in voice chat??
!voice
Voice verification
Can’t talk in voice chat? Check out #voice-verification to get access. The criteria for verifying are specified there.
OOPs..
You have been on the server for less than 3 days.,
You have sent less than 50 messages.
PSA: Don't try to spam messages to get over the limit, that'll get you banned from voice.
It's a hoot
Just wait till you get a "Segmentation Fault" error, like that's literally all you get 💀
whips out valgrind
with the alias I stole from thuri
the first time i got a segfault i was actually happy
it's like a rite of passage for c programmers
That's true
good thing you mention this, cause i was gonna offer it, as it turns out, again
Yeah then make a C-Extension for python; then you can get segfaults in Python
I've encountered this... an innocent python dev getting a segfault... 😨
i found a message from back when @green pelican was a kid:
#career-advice message
hmmm
I am infuriated. On three different floors of my building, people are leaving their clothes in the dryer after the dryers completed drying the clothes
it happens really often. people just forget about their clothes
previous dryer had an option to tumble every half-hour when it was done, for 24 hours following, and i very frequently let my second load take full advantage of that
wait how does that help? wrinkles?
iirc yes
throw it on the floor
so I threw it on the GROUND
thats what we did at my college
thats what kids do at every college
kids? then what are you?
a kid
ok kiddo
people confusing the first two notes of clair de lune and chopin's nocturne op. 9 no. 2 is my most dominant pet peeve today for now
me with that fuckass anxiety song and somebody that i used to
what
STOP WITH THAT SHITTY SONG
THERE ARE MULTIPLE TYPE OF SONG
ALSO
THE GREEN BUTTON SAYS I SHOULD DOWNLOAD FREE RAM
SHOULD I
YES
is there any way to restore data after a factory reset with no backup, on mac?
Probably; at least some of it. I don't know much but I think data isn't destroyed after a factory reset; the memory it is marked as "free" and can be written over. With the correct tool/program (I have heard) one can search the drive for any files that can be found.
There are even a few YouTube videos of people reportedly buying used hardware and finding pictures/files that weren't properly destroyed from off the computer
do you have the names for the tools? i did try searching on google/reddit but couldnt find anything which i wanted
Unfortunately no, I sent you a dm with what ChatGPT said, but you might want to look up "Data Recovery Tools" if you haven't tried that one.
oh hey @hazy peak, haven't seen you in a while 👀
@digital oracle ur pfp is so cool
ah, it's the album cover of Panic Room by Au/Ra
Content warning: lizard
Saved the little guy from my cat.
Why tf my cat hunts mice and lizards and then BRINGS THEM HOME???
cutie
do you know what type of lizard it is?
My guess would be zwinka, the most common lizard here... In English that would be... Sand lizard, weird name https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sand_lizard
The sand lizard (Lacerta agilis) is a lacertid lizard. There are several subspecies, including L. a. agilis, L. a. argus, and L. a. exigua.
The sand lizard is distributed across most of Europe from the southern coast of Britain and across the continent to Lake Baikal in Russia. It does not occur in European Turkey. Its distribution is often patc...
oh
TIL cute lizards warrant content warnings
Eh, of course the preview photo is of a male...
Males are known for their bright coloration and aggressive, possessive behaviors when seasonally competing for females. In contrast to other squamates, the sand lizard's mating season is very short
So they usually don't have this colour, even males
Lizards, frogs, and any insects are common "ewww" for people, so I prefer to err on the side of caution :3
but something as cute as that...
content warning: cute
TIL lizards can have ticks.
After taking the photo I saw the weird bumps near lizard's armpit, kinda looked like weird scales, kinda like ticks... But lizard wiggled out and I didn't want to catch it
So later I googled and apparently I was right, those were ticks
Btw, zwinka is named after it being agile - the Latin name is also Lacerta agilis
Idk why English named it sand lizard...
Like seriously:
They avoid basking on open sand or soil and prefer to use vegetation if they bask on the ground.
... Why name it sand lizard then???
Sand lizards are a frequent carrier of common ticks which are a great risk to the health of the lizards
Shit, now I'm sad I didn't actually inspect the lizard earlier. I have tick removal hooks at home. But I was already outside (near the stony flower bed where the lizards like to chill) when I noticed, so even if I knew they were ticks, I wouldn't be ably to do anything :c
Like 4 ticks visible in this photo alone (3 in full, one kinda covered by lizard's elbow)
Idk the other side
I'm kinda impressed by the ticks
just burrowing through the scaly hide
hide? skin?
They are bringing them as gifts to you. Genuinely.
Little kitty thinks you suck at surviving
or a sign of pity
"you can't even hunt you lazy foolish human, here is how you do it"
Nope. Catto growls if you come near. Just like with good food when second catto tries to steal it
Oh
In that case they're bringing it to a familiar place to play with/eat it.
We had a cat that would bring their prey inside and drop it in their food bowl before eating it.
[Content warning: mouse in cat's mouth.]
(Blurred but still - it's a mouse and I know some people hate seeing them)
The mouse recently (photo cut off to not show me).
You can clearly see how catto tried to escape me, lol
I know.
But in the past the cats would LOSE the mice. Like, I had to move boxes, scare the mouse, and catch it MYSELF because cat was more interested in the sounds of boxes being moved to notice the mouse escaping 🤦
And once I noticed an abandoned lizard on the floor... I went to pick it up, but IT STARTED MOVING
We have balcony open in the summer (and cats have their own ladder to enter as they want), so sometimes that happens
i tried to do that once but i grabbed the tail and it fell
i don't know how much surprise kid me was in when the thing dropped to my feet, detached tail still pinched between my fingers
Once I went to set free a lizard... And my hand got bloody.
Apparently the lizard lost its tail a bit earlier (and either cat ate it or it was left somewhere), and now was slightly bleeding.
At first I was kinda scared I got bit or scratched that much, but I didn't feel it
Hi
yeah hi i just joined discord back, have been away for like 2 years busy with stuff in life, how are u tho 😄 surprised u still remembered who i am
cool mate thanks
I love weekends. Homemade biscuit, homemade sausage with egg, potato cake, and orange.
How dare you torture us with your delicious food; I will have to make tasty food myself now
Most cats bring home prey, in my experience. Apparently it's either a way to show off to their social group, share food, or teach other members how to hunt.
Maybe it thinks you're helpless considering how few lizards you've caught yourself.
Read further. I said the cat doesn't want to share :c
It's just about bringing the toy-food home so neighbour cats don't interrupt
(we live in the countryside and currently there are 2 cats that regularly come to our garden... one even seems to have moved into the old barn... and has become friends with sib-in-law's dog, even eating dog's food)
Ah yeah, that's also a possibility.
Or to show off.
chomp!
holy hell
my MAN!!!
Hello
puppies
i vaguely remember that in 8th grade, my science teacher was like "i will write the last names of all students who passed the exam on the whiteboard"
and she wrote every name but mine
😢
just needed to get it out cause once in a while i think about it and want to die
That feels like a really shitty thing for a teacher to do
i know 😭 thank god only a few people noticed
most of them were only focused on whether their own names were there
that's better than writing the names of those who didn't pass, bcause that would be more noticeable
Feeling like you're getting bullied depends on you tho... Yk
Grades ought to be a private matter between teaching staff, parents and children.
Or otherwise on a need to know basis.
Admin and soforth.
Making everything public to promote, what, competitiveness...or as some kind of group ritual shaming...that's seems to me a...dated practice.
We had a math duel popsicle stick ladder ranking game we played.
People would challenge one another to maths questions and the first to answer would win.
Their stick was swapped or not between the challenger and challenged on the ladder.
I was always at the very bottom.
"Then there's [OpalMist] who's always trying, but no matter how hard he tries he always cries."
That was on a poster put on display in my classroom. Each student had their own line. I was not the author of my own. My objections were disregarded.
If you cant outmath them beat them
Bring back bullying nerds
They think they've gotten cool now
Said they in a programming server.
Im not an nerd
My point is, public shaming of schoolchildren, no less, is a damn shitty thing to do and a teacher should know better.
That shit stays with you.
YO U STEPPED DOWN FROM DIRECTORS WHEN DID THAT HAPPEN
hahahh a while ago, I stepped down and then rejoined admins somewhat recently
does anyone have 10cents worth of bitcoin
Stop spamming this in every channel -_-
lol i was going to say
in the time you've gone i've gone and got myself a degree almost
damn dude good job
am waiting for my results rn
and then will see where i get admission for medicine
trying to get a hang of programming again till then 🙃
hahahaha what the hell
that was not an arc I imagined for you
that's awesome man, well best of luck with the results
lmao yeah computers was always an hobby
thankss!
https://www.youtube.com/live/19BQd13CgGw wtfḟ is this lol
🔫💥 We may have accidentally put a gun in our mouth... but don’t worry — we’re fine. Mostly. Emotionally questionable, but alive!Join us in Episode 11 as ou...
tote
new bot?? 
wait that shit was way too far back
Hello
It took about 4 billion years to get us to be born on this earth
chat is this real
More, actually. Life formed almost immediately after the young Earth cooled down a little.
Wtf. It’s like you evolved
I have an interesting philosophical observation to tell you about
I am evolution
There’s this show from the 1950’s. I forgot the name of it but I think the episode is called “The Lonely”. A man gets sent to an astroid and he felt lonely. So a spaceship sent him a robot to keep him company.
He falls in the love with the robot, || the captain comes back to the astroid and shoots the robot in her face ||
The episode is philosophical to me because the episode does invoke emotions but then again it’s a man made machine and not a human being
That's the Twilight Zone, I watched that episode a long time ago.
That was a great show.
I mean, I guess it makes sense to feel sympathy even if it's just an unfeeling thing, for the man if not for the robot itself.
It’s interesting how someone has made a connection to a non-existing entity
(Existing in the context of life)
Lots of people make sentimental connections to objects. We're social animals, and in the absence of other people, we'll humanize and interact with literally anything.
A robot is relatively generous in this regard, since it can at least to some degree simulate the behaviors and capabilities of actual living things.
More so than Tom Hanks' volleyball Wilson in the movie Cast Away
PubMed
Object personification is the attribution of human characteristics to non-human agents. In online forums, autistic individuals commonly report experiencing this phenomenon. Given that approximately half of all autistic individuals experience difficulties identifying their own emotions, the suggestio …
fuck discord titles man
show the whole thing
Object personification in autism: This paper will be very sad if you don't read it
sad paper :c
indeed
oh god, I thought the title will make it seem sad for the reader unless they read the paper and understand why the title isn't sad after all 
Hm, does English have words to differentiate between personification and just... uh, treating something as it was alive (but without treating it as person)?
I remember the terms for both in Polish from lit classes. But my brain can't recall if such difference exists in English
Because I was thinking how many people say printers smell your fear etc - that would be just alive and more animalistic, but not a person so not personification...
Pretty sure it can be used both as treating something as a person and as alive
zoomorphism? Seems to mainly be used for art where humans are seen as animals, but unless I'm misreading Wikipedia it can also be used for
. It means to attribute animal forms or animal characteristics to other animals, or things other than an animal; similar to but broader than anthropomorphism.
The word zoomorphism derives from Ancient Greek: ζῶον, romanized: zōon, lit. 'animal' and Ancient Greek: μορφή, romanized: morphē, lit. 'form; shape'. In the context of art, zoomorphism could describe art that imagines humans as non-human animals. It can also be defined as art that portrays one species of animal like another spec...
Anthropomorphism?
smh
This has anthropos meaning human
there's also animism
anthropomorphism in that sense explicitly means treating something as if it were human, aye
omg i do this with vim users
So you want a term like anthropomorphism, but not limited to human behaviors, but rather anything that's alive?
i try to make everyone feel on the same level
you know im known for my open mindedness especially when it comes to software!!!
my vote would be agentism, but it does not appear to be a recognized word
Emacs sucks bro move on
death
animism seems to be more like the belief that things literally have souls
ffs
there's a psych so question about basically this, and the answers are all near-useless: https://psychology.stackexchange.com/questions/3951/is-there-a-cognitive-bias-for-ascribing-agency-to-inanimate-objects
In Polish it's animizacja or ożywienie (synonyms)... In English it seems to apply to general concept of stuff having spirits and similar stuff, not literary device...
I checked English Wiktionary and it translates animizacja as just personification and prosopeia. Eh.
zoomorphism seems to have a focus on animalistic behaviors and attributes specifically, not just things that are alive, but like, 'beast-like' features
Animorphs
It also doesn't seem to primarily refer to a literary device, but more like art and depiction
Like how Shintoism is an animistic religion, it's a literal belief in things having sentience.
oh hey, that's kinda like hylopathism, but... different
I feel like the question posed here is about something very similar to anthropomorphism, and there seems to be quite a lot of research into that: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthropomorphism#Foundational_research
Modern psychologists generally characterize anthropomorphism as a cognitive bias. That is, anthropomorphism is a cognitive process by which people use their schemas about other humans as a basis for inferring the properties of non-human entities in order to make efficient judgements about the environment, even if those inferences are not always accurate.[2] Schemas about humans are used as the basis because this knowledge is acquired early in life, is more detailed than knowledge about non-human entities, and is more readily accessible in memory.[78] Anthropomorphism can also function as a strategy to cope with loneliness when other human connections are not available.[79]
I understand the words being spoken and am following along with all manner of professionalism.
I know the terms from Polish classes, hence I say literary device as literature classes are one place where it's clearly used when analysing poems and stuff.
I may have just learned that Hylopathism is not exactly about what I thought it was about 
ye give off the vibe of someone who saw yer video about that twoish days ago and now want to use the word everywhere
well, I didn't see a video about it exactly
I didn't know what the term was, but I knew the description, so I searched by that description and apparently wound up at the wrong term, though it's not thaaaat far from it
the actual position I might have wanted to reference instead of hylopathism is panpsychism
oh and
if I do hear a word and use it everywhere, that's called practice, meaning I learn more (about it) (hopefully)
I don't think anthropomorphism means treating something as if it were a human, necessarily, but imputing human-like traits to it, which may include traits that humans share with animals.
so, imagining that your printer is alive (and probably pissed at you) can be considered anthropomorphism, as life is a human trait, despite that other creatures also experience life.
Yeah, I was talking about zoomorphism in English here.
I also figure that human-like traits is what tends to be of most interest to us as humans. It's not that often that we attribute traits of living beings to objects that are specifically not human-like.
true
It's not like any of us have actually been a cat, for all we know the experience of being alive (as a cat) is totally unique and different from the experience of being alive (as a human) but we don't (in English) have separate words for "alive like a cat" and "alive like a human"
Now the important question, are cat girls alive like a human, or like a cat
does "girl" here imply it being of human descent?
importantly antropomorphizing has nothing to do with animals
it's attributing human traits onto...stuff
Just found out that my company uses a residential modem in our office 😬
Which explains our slow download and upload speed
How?
My "residential" modem at home has plans that go up to 10GB symmetrical
My "business" modem at work only has plans up to 1GB, and that wasn't even symmetrical for the first couple years I worked here
I put those in quotes because it's the exact same modem model
It's not always even different equipment
you're lucky.
High amounts of traffic due to 6 - 8 people using it
the biggest isp in my state offers the same exact speeds for residential and business users
you dont even get a static IP
only 24h of crappy support
thats not high amount of traffic
is bro's company using adsl
yeah that sounds almost like it's suited for a residential modem 🤣🤣🤣
residental modem should be able to handle 8 users easy
unless all 8 are streaming 4k video at the same time or something
THERE IS NO SQUIRREL HERE
well it is a secret squirrel URL
Even older residential have 1Gbps Ethernet ports.
Newer have higher.
If you mean wifi: WiFi quality depends on year and exact tech. Even "business" routers will do shit if they're old and use old tech. Meanwhile my "residential" have wifi6 (aka 802.11ax)...
That's very low amount of traffic, I have around that in my residential config (most of the time: 6 phones, 2 computers, 2 tvs, then lots of other WiFi devices and controllers that don't take much bandwidth)
I imagine the underlying connection/plan describes the speed
I mean, Keezy himself claimed the bottleneck to be "residential modem", that's why I comment on the router/ap itself - others already mentioned plans
the question is what is the limiting factor
really crappy router getting congested? throughput to isp?
AP or router seem like a reasonable bottleneck
:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied timeout to @lament solstice until <t:1748994137:f> (10 minutes) (reason: duplicates spam - sent 4 duplicate messages).
The <@&831776746206265384> have been alerted for review.
was the voice verification attempt worth it?
especially if your isp is the kind that gives its customers whatever junk they can buy in bulk at a low price
which is like
probably most of them
teto
Help defend for Ukraine from Russia. Contribute to open source.
Contrary to popular belief, after speaking with about a dozen of people about my worldview and it being challenged, my worldview has been tweaked a little bit
Someone made the claim a while ago that my worldview will never be changed
Very good.
There were actually several of my classmates who stank when I went to college
I didn't really wanna bring it up, cause they were nice, and I thought maybe it was some kind of medical condition.
What's confusing you?
i was looking for general / general off topic and i found this lol
also i started on c++ and it just made so much more sense
So you're in a good place!
cant say that abt me
We're not putting the off-topic channels at the front because we want to emphasize that this is a Python server. But these three channels are the ones where you can talk about non-Python stuff.
ig
i shower when im going to school tommorow or smth like that
what do you mean? are you referring to indentation, or the REPL?
Once after working out and once in conjunction with my daughter's swimming lesson
I change clothes once a day, yes.
You're in REPL. Read-eval-print loop. You have to have some way of marking that you don't want to enter multi-line stuff anymore - so it can be evaluated
Because in a file, you don't have to have any empty lines (aka "using enter 2 times")
def idk():
print("hi") #in function
print("y") #still in function
print("em") #not in function
yeah sounds like you're in the REPL (interactive shell). see what Nicky said
This is actually invalid python because it doesn't have indentation.
Indent decides what is inside what, not enters
C++ is just easier for me but i want to make terminal app
show a example if u can pls
People are generally pretty hygienic at my employer, but one time I had to borrow my colleagues keyboard and it was greasy and gross as hell
Like I dunno wtf he did to turn it into that
Does he not wash his hands after eating a greasy sandwich?
def idk():
print("hi")
print("hello")
print("bye") # this is still inside the function 'idk'
print("outside 'idk'")
# indentation is what counts.
dirty mind of mine made me laught lol
im more confused tbh
What's confusing about that example?
!e
def fun():
print("Spaces at the beginning of the line is called indent")
print("this is outside of the function")
fun() #run the function defined above
:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | this is outside of the function
002 | Spaces at the beginning of the line is called indent
how is text "hi'hi'" diffrent than "hi"
what does the other thing prints
There's no "hi hi" in that example
ah i think i understand
Not sure what you're referring to
Im not rewriting all that on mobile
i might be just stupid but i think i got it now
!e And we can also run the code from @woeful phoenix
def idk():
print("hi")
print("hello")
print("bye") # this is still inside the function 'idk'
print("outside 'idk'")
# indentation is what counts.
idk()
:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | outside 'idk'
002 | hi
003 | hello
004 | bye
Indentation determines what's inside a block and what isn't
so pressing tab acts like {}
Well, tab creates indentation, yes. But you don't have to use the tab key.
but how about this?
def helloworld():
print("Hello")
print("not world")
print("world")
That won't run, I think
my bad then
Since the last line has indentation with no associated block
invalid because the print("world") is indented but doesn't correspond to any block. the def helloworld() block ended when you had that non-indented line. you can't "resume" blocks like that, so to say.
so tab or whatever is not decorational at all huh?
its all functional.
cool.
1 more question tho
Lua is based of python and github cheats in Lua are written in 1 line
how are they indented
Lua is not based on Python
"Lua is based of python" is incorrect.
Not very similar
Lua uses end keywords and such to denote blocks, it's not whitespace-sensitive like Python
They have virtually no shared ancestry
ah ok
so its not possible to make a function in 1 line
ik stupid questions but im jst curious
def a(): print("hello") works
and more stuff?
You can also use lambdas
kk
you can use semicolons to add statements there... but it quickly falls apart if the function body has any complexity at all
a = lambda: print("hello")
Python isn't supposed to be written like that
in c++ i would just
int add(int a) {printf("Helo"); return a*a;}
something that simple could be done in one line in Python too
def a(x): print("hello"); return x**2
yeah but c++ is just more clear
it clearly shows where things start, end and what kind of function it is
I wouldn't say that.
but there's very little reason you would want to cram entire functions in one line, in either C++ or Python
What do you mean by "what kind of function it is"?
is it int or string or void yk
You can use type hints in Python for that
yeah, a lot of introductory tutorials don't really go into type hinting, I think
at least at the start
def a(x: int) -> int: print("hello"); return x ** 2
and the only reason for learning python for me is bc i hate YAML
What does that have to do with YAML?
i was messing with archiso and i wanted to make smth with help of my cousin and i preffered to make python script to install apps after OS install rather than pre-bloating it with YAML
if it's simple enough (no serious control flow or argument parsing) I would use shell for such a task tbh
does archiso have an option to bake additional packages into it by specifying a YAML file or what?
I mean, if it's simple enough it can just be a literal text file list of packages that you pipe into pacman
I love this genre of post
i would preffer to have smth like "do u want to have X on ur system?" rather than just getting it preinstalled
but its just me
I kinda don't like getting spammed with decisions like that all at once
Either I want all the decisions made for me, or I wanna take my time and decide what to get
In which case I may as well just do it manually
i wanted it to have it for simple stuff
there will be another command after it (you can run it if u want, its not necessary) with non essential essential apps
the first thing will ask for stuff like
"do u want yay?" or "do u want flatpak?"
5 questions max
i think that makes some sense
I mean, sweat doesn't smell that bad if it's less than a few hours old.
It's when you let it sit for days that it goes into raw sewage territory.
why not? i think typing your code is a good idea
It's not necessary to learn immediately. It's mainly useful for larger projects, so it makes sense not to dump it on beginners right away.
I guess it's more concepts to explain.
And "just write these things even though they're not enforced at all" is a bit of a hard sell for a beginner
I think it's better to let them experience the pain of not using them first, then they'll be able to appreciate them more.
to quote my friend: "even if they shower, their personality will still stink"
Also speaking of stink
I don't like fighting I think they should just share the country 🥰 ||/j||
new map. more realistic physics. i attempted to fine tune friction, downforce, MOI and brake bias. this is 1 video off of the latest data file, more to come. low quality vid because im on a potato.
here is a racecar game im submitting as a final project in ~2 weeks
here is the data file i used in the video, everything is unimportant except for car_args (tuning). if anyone has any stats to recommend i'll accept
Click here to see this code in our pastebin.
oh thats neat
saba
shark child mackerel
if you wanna shitpost about vtubers at least include a gif lol
oh true
teto
there's this one image where teto is drawn like a really bad dinosaur
it has basically two legs
an arch between them
hey
please tell me you have that image
i don't have..
NOO
@thick ore hi
@rough sapphire ill say that in some areas there are alot of muslims while others not so much
ok thats all i got to say
H
limited snow leopard capacity for now
ok
y
if the disc doesn't then install the game and a thousand updates, it's not real
i thought they were besties
musk trying to attack trump is so dumb because he doesn't have 1/10000th of trumps rizz
like I hate both but Elon is just wayyyy more cringe than trump
yeah but one is funny and the other is "let that sink in 🤓 "
yeah musk might actually go down in history as the single most cringe person ever
it's unreal how cringe he is
billionaire charity doesn't fix shit unfortunately
and I Dont trust his charity tbh
even if he was 100 percent honest, the system we live in doesn't let people just be nice to one another
people will see a soup kitchen and say "wasted business opportunity"
I get what you are saying but I am very suspicious of people in power trying to abolish power
ello

He have never donated that much, just around half
Remember the time Musk claimed he can end world hunger, just give him a plan and he'll donate?
He got a plan. But he donated to some pseudo-charity that acts as a bank for rich people - it's officially a charity so they can write off the donation, but later it gets back to them through some subsidies from that same charity... it was discovered it went to HIS OWN FOUNDATION, for tax write-off. I think I had an older article about it
https://truthout.org/articles/musk-pledged-6b-to-solve-world-hunger-but-gave-it-to-his-own-foundation-instead/
Never said he'll donate 95-99%, just that he'll give "majority" (which means just >50%) of his fortune to it... OVER 20 YEARS.
You can easily check it, so why lie?
And foundation itself said it will sunset its operation after 20y, which is weird. The foundation itself holds 80B worth of stocks currently. What will happen to that?
It's a recent information that is easily searchable.
So if you don't remember, why not look it up?
"most", again, just means >50%
Most sources that pop up just say "most of his fortune" and don't mention any percent value e.g. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/03/bill-gates-fortune-africa
The article they linked does mention the 99% amoun though
I've seen people post such info recently without confirmation, so I reacted instinctively and grouped you with those, as the info I found had no %.
I'm sorry
It's been very stressful past few weeks with elections and pride month starting. I've seen people post a lot of misinformation about various info that can't be verified, including actual media posting that fake or at least heavily manipulated stuff... ._.
Do you folks find broken english funnier or more enjoyable than perfect english?
depends how broken it is
sure, using slang can be fun
but something like the "omg vro ts pmo fr 🥀" epidemic, i honestly could not get behind
Slightly broken, not enuff to be cringe and not in the way that someone non-native speaks
THAT'S NOT BROKEN
THAT'S FUCKED
speaking of fucked
my terminal broke
because it kept querying git status
Windows user broke powershell
after every prompt
i thought it was the font
but no it was the theme
so i chucked out all the useless bs like git branch checks
Ahhhhh oh my posh?
yup
also checking php version cuz who tf uses php
I wanna say something but I already said enough last time
even if he donated it, it doesn't dissolve the power structure that let's him hoard the money in the first place, the issue isnt that he needs to give money, it's how he got it
money is such a shitty abstraction sometimes
Agreed.
Sole existence of billionaires shows the problem with the system. Gates keeps good PR but we can see on examples of other billionaires (eg. Musk, Bezos, family that owns Walmart) how the money was earned by oppressing others...
like who?
"violence is inevitable" says politician who refuses to fix it
is one example
thats not money
?
humans do suck
money inherently is just a concept
its not some groundbreaking statement but its not wrong
people say that capitalism and profiteering are human nature but history provides many examples
where it is clearly not
hey guys
humans put arbitrary value on things and ruin it
I mean yeah but let's have a nuanced argument about it
that wasnt the original statement though
the original statement wasnt wrong
^
yeahh
not a good look
hi
what are talking about?
bad debate practices
im in cybersecurity
hard
Is it good to pursue data engineer?
if you want to
I'm currently grinding on python because we use it for machine learning and image processing
yeah ML is interesting I guess the high level
oh ffs discord mobile is so shit I fucking hate everyone involved with it
marx wrote a whole bunch of shit abt this actually
oh finally it sent
and it dropped the reply
I want to set discord offices on fire
fuck discord mobile so much
good idea
I've been triyn g to post a message for 5 mins and it just keeps disconnecting
certainly a unique wish
im gonna destroy discord offices and tell the devs to go work in anything besides software, better yet: become ants
It's not even that bad
discord mobile keeps disconnecting for me
some messages load, some others do not load, i cant send anyhting
and then it sends the same message twice
That's ur connection
my connection is fine, but if I switch apps then it takes discord a whole ass minute to reconnect, no other app has this issue
Placebo
idk i dont get it on my cord mobile
Money can't buy happiness but it can alleviate suffering.
That's optimistic.
What I suspect is that someone will implement UBI somewhere (unless the world ends before we get around to it of course), but what happens after that will probably greatly depend on what the outcome of implementing UBI at scale ends up being. It'll certainly be a learning experience for sure.
I'm sure it depends on the implementation. Which is why when the first country announces they'll give it a try, the rest will probably go "cool, I'll watch how it goes" 🙃
they do that with everything tho
okay but my wallet only has insects
😭
HAHAHAHAHAGAH
Not the tesler 😭😭
most divorced man in history
I saw this being posted around https://www.reddit.com/r/LeopardsAteMyFace/s/Kqf83ARriQ
Musk overstayed visa in 1990s and they want to use that to revoke his citizenship to deport him.
First thing he and Trump did was make h1b visas for companies easier. Ie they can hire more external workers that they'll be able to threaten with firing any time they complain.
But voters forgot that soon
US is called 1st world country only because US was the one who made those classifiers during cold war. 1st world was US and their allies, 2nd world was Soviet Union and their allied. 3rd world were all those countries that didn't matter.
But socially? US is pretty dystopian. Lack of universal healthcare and the cost of private healthcare. Cost of education. The inequalities in the public education system. Being the first on number of imprisoned people per capita - and the fact that a lot of prisons are privately owned...
i cant move outside the US my disease is too expensive to treat for any other country
massive W
universal healthcare is not a gift
thats the misconception
I have a friend who loves traveling. And has MD parent.
When going to the US, their doctor parent told them that if anything happens, just patch yourself enough to get back. Because even a broken bone would end up with high bill
they do not give a shit about you if you cost a lot
so it would cost countries too much to be willing to treat me
hence why they wouldnt let me move
one of the reasons my family actually moved to the US in the first place lowkey
Yeah, you pay taxes, you get healthcare.
But it doesn't matter if it costs a lot, as long as treatment is accepted within e.g. EU
