rust is the new kid on the block with some interesting concepts
#ot2-the-original-pubsta
rich crater
how is Rust's memory management?
it's worth learning about
(and also part of the point to it)
dusky cliff
smh not you too
cosmic cape
is a function of ```rust
fn main() {
println!("hello world");
}
supposed to take this long? `[Done] exited with code=0 in 0.705 seconds`java number one, scala number two, rust number 3 for me
daring jay
is a function of ```rust
fn main() {
println!("hello world");
}
```
suppose...
depends on your system
I/O may take a while
daring jay
how is Rust's memory management?
v cool
cosmic cape
depends on your system
i'm currently running it on VSCODE. Does the extension that I use affect the speed?
dusky cliff
java number one, scala number two, rust number 3 for me
where would you rank kotlin relative to java
daring jay
uhh idk, i always use cargo build or cargo run
rich crater
where would you rank kotlin relative to java
I have no need for kotlin
dusky cliff
hm
cosmic cape
uhh idk, i always use `cargo build` or `cargo run`
what does this do?
daring jay
what does this do?
have you read the book?
cosmic cape
uhh
daring jay
iirc they talk about in chapter 1.3 or chapter 2
cosmic cape
what book?
rich crater
there was also something like rust in 30min for people who already know other languages. It was pretty neat
dusky cliff
does anyone start with rust as their first language :P
daring jay
the hardest parts of learning rust are the
a) correctness; and
b) getting used to the borrowck.
dusky cliff
i'm still in the "if it doesn't work throw a .clone() at it" phase
rich crater
the hardest parts of learning rust are the
a) correctness; and
b) getting used t...
I am an ass about pre/post conditions. So a) is very attractive to me
daring jay
lmfao we all are
daring jay
I am an ass about pre/post conditions. So a) is very attractive to me
yeah, the entire language/stdlib is designed to make you do things right, no matter how annoying it may be
rich crater
yeah, the entire language/stdlib is designed to make you do things *right*, no m...
I want a boring code base
That means it does not wake me up at 4am on my week ends
cosmic cape
how can I make the intergrated terminal allow me to type in commands?
right now it's only "read-only"
cosmic cape
whoops
cosmic cape
When running rust code, I have to save my file before each time I run it. Is there a way to make it that when I press run, before it runs it automatically saves the file?
willow plinth
When running rust code, I have to save my file before each time I run it. Is the...
there must be an option in ur IDE which saves the file everytime you edit it
willow plinth
type auto save in the settings
cosmic cape
thanks
cedar turtle
does anyone start with rust as their first language :P
I get brain does not live long enough errors :(
gray plover
willow plinth
grim beacon
I get `brain does not live long enough` errors \:(
💀
grim beacon
is a function of ```rust
fn main() {
println!("hello world");
}
```
suppose...
well, it takes a bit to build and run Rust
mainly because of static linking and monomorphism
a hello world binary can be decently "large" also because of that
limber pollen
is a function of ```rust
fn main() {
println!("hello world");
}
```
suppose...
Assuming that you're running that under VSCode as well it would have some overhead
But rustc is generally fast nowadays
cosmic cape
But `rustc` is generally fast nowadays
what's the command to run?
grim beacon
cargo run
limber pollen
Do you know of cargo yet?
grim beacon
cargo build if you just want to build
cosmic cape
I just know that I installed the cargo
limber pollen
I see, since you're still playing around the language I recommend doing cargo new project_name, which should create a new project for you
limber pollen
I see, since you're still playing around the language I recommend doing `cargo n...
This would give you access to cargo run
grim beacon
They also have a dedicated cargo book too
limber pollen
willow plinth
I like that guide, its well put together
cosmic cape
This would give you access to `cargo run`
it says ```
error: could not find Cargo.toml in C:\Users\tenuk\Desktop\Coding\Rust or any parent directory
yes
grim beacon
can you show
grim beacon
cd into testing
grim beacon
👍
cosmic cape
once i restart vscode, do I have to cd into testing again?
grim beacon
if you were in it last session, no
cosmic cape
is there a shortcut method to run the file instead of doing cargo run each time?
grim beacon
look above fn main
grim beacon
press the run above fn main
cosmic cape
yeah, i saw that
willow plinth
cargo run runs the main.rs file of your project
that run button on top of the main function just runs the main function of that file you are in
cosmic cape
so is there a shortcut method to running the whole file?
willow plinth
so is there a shortcut method to running the whole file?
that run should run the whole file, the main function is like an entry point to your file
cosmic cape
i'm not sure you're understanding
cosmic cape
yes, but instead of typing cargo run every time, is there a way to trigger that, or just something related to terminal that repeats the last command done?
grim beacon
press the run button on top of main...
if your terminal/shell allows, you can press up arrow to go to previously executed commands
cosmic cape
if your terminal/shell allows, you can press up arrow to go to previously execut...
ah yes. Exactly what i was looking for
thank you
so i closed and opened vscode and i needed to cd again for cargo run to work. on my previous session, i already cd'd. Why?
cosmic cape
weird maybe there's a setting
radiant socket
just use clion 😩
grim beacon
just use clion 😩
thanks for reminding me lol
willow plinth
just use clion 😩
nvim
foggy flicker
ms paint
patent elbow
@jovial island hihi
yes
Window manager or desktop environment
bro like gnome, xfce etc what
What the fuck do you have installed which shows graphics and let's you open/close windows
The gui stuff
Where did you go
Fucking hell
Kali comes with xfce by default ig you have that
steel eagle
Who are you talking to
There's nobody responding
Yet you talk like you're answering things
mental idol
I've been known to do the same 
Microsoft Teams recently gave us the ability to DM ourselves. "Now you can talk to yourself!" was the selling line.
radiant socket
Yet you talk like you're answering things
deleted messages
brisk edge
you don't need Teams to talk to yourself
radiant socket
Microsoft Teams recently gave us the ability to DM ourselves. "Now you can talk...
probably was like a 3 line code change tbh
brisk edge
you don't need Teams to talk to yourself
(I had a joke but I forgot it 🇱)
mental idol
probably was like a 3 line code change tbh
One would think. However, with MS Teams I'm betting it was a quarter long feature.
winter cove
probably was like a 3 line code change tbh
The developers have been working really hard on this one
cedar leaf
You would be shocked. Remember, 5 years ago someone was working on the backend and went "People don't need to talk to themselves" and 4.5 years later and shit ton of assumptions made in the code later, allowing you to talk to yourself because OneNote is broken was 6 month project.
I'm currently dealing with a script that loses it shit about 3rd Azure Region because at the time "We will never not be in US West 2 or West Central"
like it checks for X/Y region or makes sure there is only 2 regions in code.
frail grove
probably was like a 3 line code change tbh
3 line code change can be exhausting if you been working on a code for so long tbh
south skiff
will tech-related proprietary content (software/algorithm/etc) be open source once the license and copyright session ended? for example like old literature books, classical music copyright etc that has termination date 70 years after the creator dies. would that be the same for tech and software related work/creation?
for example like .rar file format by eugene roshal, will it be open source many many years later?
oh nevermind, it's licensed under a company, they will keep updating the license then
jovial island
iq
south skiff
?
jovial island
what i said is not related to whatever u said
wicked hollow
@jovial island well, IQ does seem to measure something, but no one can really agree on what it is that it's measuring.
which is pretty similar to Myers-Briggs Type Indicators, actually - they're measuring something, because they're repeatable for the same person over time, but no one is exactly sure what it is that they're measuring.
jovial island
i would say high iq people just have better education
wicked hollow
I don't think so - IQ usually peaks somewhere around elementary school, IIRC
adults' IQs fall throughout their lifetime
jovial island
hmm interesting
countries with better education tend to have higher average iq
(see europe compared to africa and south asia)
wicked hollow
yes, but also better nutrition and more leisure time
jovial island
yes
wicked hollow
and lower rates of childhood diseases
jovial island
quality of life in general 
wicked hollow
and lower levels of environmental lead
there's a ton of confounding factors.
IQ tests analyze pattern recognition more than anything else
jovial island
more or less yeah
wicked hollow
and spatial reasoning, to some degree
and amount of education doesn't really correlate with either of those.
jovial island
hmmmmmmm
lemme see if i can find that one interesting post from a user i saw long ago
likely wont find it
but it had nice metrics on why current iq tests dont actually measure stuff properly
this gonna take a while aaa
south skiff
i thought about intelligence alot and i don't think that there is any equal measurement on intelligence tbh
south skiff
<@456226577798135808> well, IQ does seem to measure _something_, but no one can ...
would you read it if i send you my thoughts on intelligence and would you form an opinion on whether you agree with it or not? it's composed of few long paragraphs..
wicked hollow
would you read it if i send you my thoughts on intelligence and would you form a...
sure
south skiff
i wrote this like a week ago, honestly i am very afraid since this is a public server. but i hope you don't mind, and also i am very open to criticism.
I believe that the most reasonable measure for intelligence is actually time. the time that it takes for someone to be able to understand a concept he/she had never came across in the past. but it is very tricky to measure someone's intelligence with time, that's because it's not possible to accurately predict how much time someone had spent on learning a similar concept or a concept that's supporting the understanding of the main concept that's being asked while measuring intelligence.
It's not possible to equally measure intelligence of two people coming from a different background (someone who grew up wealthy in US will definitely have the upper ground and advantage compared to someone who grew up poor in Africa.) I wanted to add quantity and quality of resources for learning in addition as a parameter for measuring intelligence but I realized quantity and quality of resources in the end is related to time. Because we're actually measuring the time that it takes for them to get the same quality and quantity of learning materials and knowledge.
complexity of thoughts might matter in the effort of measuring intelligence but complex concepts are actually made out of many simple concepts combined together therefore it is related to time as well. The time that it takes for someone to learn/comprehend those smaller concepts that supports the main concept.
definitely the measurement of intelligence should not be valid if the people being tested didn't have the same quantity and quality of learning resources or information, and if they didn't reach the same complexity of thoughts by the time they take the test.
in order to measure intelligence that is close to accuracy, the people being tested needs to have a very similar life, experiencing similar situations in life, most importantly having the same quantity and quality of learning materials that's given to them at the same time.
adding to that, in order to precisely and accurately measure people's intelligence they have to always be in the same spot, doing the same thing, eating the same thing, and having the same chemical reactions in their brain. basically you have to live the same life and be the same person. therefore the concept of who's more intelligence can't ever be accurate. it's just measuring the time someone had spent on learning/understanding about logical reasoning. the more time they spent on improving their logic, the better score they will get. but people will definitely argue to this because "intelligence is not just logical reasoning". therefore intelligence test can't ever be valid unless they change the title to "measurement of the time people spent on understanding/learning a certain subject"
also, another topic i'd like to discuss is the fact that people are born with different chemical substances and hormones that regulates how they think and behave. you can't expect someone with down syndrome to score as well as normal people in iq tests or just academic tests in general. even viewing angles and distances in classroom affects how well a student can understand/comprehend the subject being taught by the teacher.
actually, just drop it if you don't find it interesting, sorry 🙏
wicked hollow
It's not possible to equally measure intelligence of two people coming from a different background (someone who grew up wealthy in US will definitely have the upper ground and advantage compared to someone who grew up poor in Africa.)
Why is it necessarily impossible to measure whether a rich person in the US learns faster or slower than a poor person in Africa?
Because we're actually measuring the time that it takes for them to get the same quality and quantity of learning materials and knowledge.
definitely the measurement of intelligence should not be valid if the people being tested didn't have the same quantity and quality of learning resources or information, and if they didn't reach the same complexity of thoughts by the time they take the test.
That's generally not what intelligence tests measure, for what it's worth, and that's exactly why they're - well, maybe "valid" is too strong a claim, but "reproducible". They're designed in a way that tries to account for prior knowledge. If an intelligence test works, a person should have relatively consistent results on it throughout their lifetime - they shouldn't start doing better because they have more prior knowledge.
south skiff
but someone can get better iq test result after learning the "patterns" in the tests.
wicked hollow
Sure. But that's just cheating. That's not becoming more intelligent.
if you take the same test twice, you'll do better the second time, of course. But that's a confounding factor to testing, not an intrinsic quality of the tests.
therefore intelligence test can't ever be valid unless they change the title to "measurement of the time people spent on understanding/learning a certain subject"
That's exactly what "intelligence" means, for what it's worth. We define intelligence based on rate of learning.
south skiff
i see, so in the end the question would be what it is that iq is measuring?
would it be logical reasoning?
wicked hollow
<@456226577798135808> well, IQ does seem to measure _something_, but no one can ...
yes, that's what I meant by 
south skiff
yes, that's what I meant by <:this:470903994118832130>
in your opinion what would it be?
wicked hollow
"intelligence" is pretty well defined, psychologically speaking, but it's not terribly clear if IQ tests measure intelligence.
south skiff
ah i see
do you think IQ test is more related to pattern recognition and logical reasoning than "intelligence"?
wicked hollow
Wikipedia has some context on the debate over what exactly it is that IQ tests are measuring
south skiff
thank you
wicked hollow
the section above the one I linked to - "Reliability" - confirms that IQ tests measure something.
the fact that tests give consistent results over time shows that they're not purely random, and they are actually measuring something.
but there's a fair bit of debate over what they're measuring, and whether it's intelligence or not. Or whether it's only one specific type of intelligence. Etc.
south skiff
yeah
south skiff
but there's a fair bit of debate over _what_ they're measuring, and whether it's...
i just want to know what do you think it is that iq test is measuring, it doesn't have to be from a well-respected information source. just your opinion..
wicked hollow
I think pattern recognition is the biggest thing. And I think that probably does correlate with "intelligence" as in "rate of learning", because I think that people who can identify patterns can correlate and categorize new information more quickly.
south skiff
I think pattern recognition is the biggest thing. And I think that probably does...
i see, that makes a lot of sense. i pretty much agree with that.
i'm sorry for taking your time. it was a very good discussion. thank you 🙏
wicked hollow
👍
jovial island
[cyan](orange)
[cyan][orange]
# blue
* bullet point
1. numbered list
/* orange text *
> grey text
< yellow text >
< yellow
multiline >
<blue>
<blue yellow>
<blue yellow="cyan">
# blue
blue above dashes
--------
blue above equals signs
=====
123
the yellow text does not show as yellow anymore? (line 8-10)
basically those lines used to show as yellow, not sure if discord changed them?
thorny sierra
hey
swift cobalt
Good lord
I'm feeling majorly depressed these days
-_- Its terrifying seeing the US crumble the way it is, and hearing the drumming of the march to civil war
And I've been doing a bunch of mock interviews, resume assignments, and the like, which are making me realize not just how hopelessly unqualified I am
But also how deeply, entirely fed up I am with the bullshit rat race that I'm expected to run
I'm all out of fucks. And I'm not sure I can even squeeze one more out, even for an interview for a good job
hazy laurel
```md
[cyan](orange)
[cyan][orange]
# blue
* bullet point
1. numbered list
/* or...
you can also italicize, bold, and underline
*meow meow*
_meow meow_
**meow meow**
__meow meow__
~~meow meow~~
I lied... maybe only italicize and bolden
woven cape
```md
*meow meow*
_meow meow_
**meow meow**
__meow meow__
~~meow meow~~
```
I l...
!raw
clever salmonBOT
You are not allowed to use that command here. Please use the #bot-commands channel instead.
woven cape
thanks, useful bot
willow plinth
***```py
print('Bold italic code block')
soft nymph
i was told i coudl post silly projects here if no one minds
https://github.com/reinkdesigns/rpg-thingy/blob/main/rpg.yp
a small RPG thingy i have been working on at work
sharp bronze
You could use a for loop to initialize the ldvel dict
Level*
Also the ext is .py not .yp
soft nymph
I KNOW 😢 it wouldnt let me change it
i cant fighre out how to rename it in github lol
how would you use a for loop in this manner?
or would i need to math out a curve for that to work?
jolly egret
Hey guys
I'm trying to open my task manager but it seems to close automatically
I'm currently using windows 11
Could anyone please help me fix this?
soft nymph
ctrl+shift+escape work?
sharp bronze
So something like
for i in range(x):
levels[x] = x*b
jolly egret
soft nymph
right fair, but id need to remember how to do algebraic curves again i believe
jolly egret
ctrl+shift+escape work?
No that doesn't work
jolly egret
Can someone help me please?
soft nymph
FFS im back at work... did you try turning it off and back on again? lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jn-652FTKJ8 try this maybe, idk i dont ahve windows 11
digital bane
```md
*meow meow*
_meow meow_
**meow meow**
__meow meow__
~~meow meow~~
```
I l...
Meow
hazy laurel
meow
woven cape
roar
foggy flicker
bleat
sharp bronze
uwu
willow plinth
i tried to open the cooker to get the rice out, one side got stuck so the side from which i was opening threw all the steam out and now i have a burnt finger, great
versed wigeon
i can't visualize that but ok
lofty loom
i tried to open the cooker to get the rice out, one side got stuck so the side f...
We're having your finger for dinner
tranquil sleet
~~We're having your finger for dinner~~
we elden ringers now
woven cape
im minger now
wheat rock
getting some 100+ but i get nervous when i am typing too consistent within first few seconds with decent speed so i end up committing a mistake lmfao
woven cape
@wheat rock and I've beaten you at the same time #ot0-fear-of-python
wheat rock
typing without thinking about typing is what i need
woven cape
😈
woven cape
my graph makes no sense
woven cape
my atb is 116 🥴
wats atb
wheat rock
all time best
wheat rock
my graph makes no sense
bruh
woven cape
all time best
oh nice
willow plinth
~~We're having your finger for dinner~~
🥺
lofty loom
👉👈
foggy flicker
🦶 🦶
zealous hazel
~~We're having your finger for dinner~~
too less calories
foggy flicker
we'll have yours then
jovial island
How to write your text to the 2nd line of the file?
swift cobalt
too less calories
Go backwards to Monke, or forwards to Crab?
rich crater
@slim forge taking this off topic, there are quite a few interesting results:
- https://github.com/search?o=desc&q=license%3Aagpl-3.0&s=stars&type=Repositories -> agpl
- https://github.com/search?o=desc&q=license%3Agpl-3.0&s=stars&type=Repositories -> gplv3
- https://github.com/search?o=desc&q=license%3Agpl-2.0&s=stars&type=Repositories -> gplv2
- https://github.com/search?q=license%3Aapache-2.0&type=Repositories&ref=advsearch&l=&l= -> ASLv2
slim forge
<@233059161401720832> taking this off topic, there are quite a few interesting r...
hm interesting 
zealous hazel
Go backwards to Monke, or forwards to Crab?
backwards
fleet moth
guys how do i do the home thingy in discord server
bitter breach
It is in beta and not available to everyone yet, wait for discord to roll it out
fleet moth
oh ok
reef mauve
how do i make it so when i left click a file it says edit with software as an option
bitter breach
U need to add add a entry to context menu via regedit
reef mauve
U need to add add a entry to context menu via regedit
is this answering my question?
bitter breach
Yes
reef mauve
thanks
bitter breach
how do i make it so when i left click a file it says edit with software as an op...
The left click? U meant the right click ?
reef mauve
The left click? U meant the right click ?
wait it is right click, i even double checked
bitter breach
😂
reef mauve
guess i dont know my directions
coral lantern
bitter breach
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06EUUcYvwC4
Abe is ka kya kre ga yha pe ?
steel eagle
Abe is ka kya kre ga yha pe ?
Nai na wu wru wre to pho ka?!!!??
willow plinth
D::
foggy flicker
monkes are just big monkeys
formal hound
Who is the ass?
A: 
B: 🗿
C: 
D: 
fathom halo
D
brazen jacinth
@grim seal you have obviously taken bike stealing courses, mind giving me some tips?
grim seal
don't get caught
wheat rock
get don't caught
slow valve
everything is legal until you get caught
tranquil sleet
everything is legal until you get caught
true that
dim panther
Sooo
What's the idea behind naming off topic channels in this server ?
Just names I guess ?
clever salmonBOT
slate leaf
They are just mods, admins and owners being silly
slate leaf
They just haven't seen the light yet
dim panther
Let's see what other people thinkin
When people ask you on interview how you think diversity in team helps work
What the f is the right answer ?
Like idgaf about colors,sex, disability -- work is work ?
brazen jacinth
everything is legal until you get caught
what are the cops gonna do when i they find i don't pay taxes, have committed several heinous felonies, warcrimes and have never followed the geneva conventions? Arrest me?
tranquil sleet
When people ask you on interview how you think diversity in team helps work
i would pull out the denzel washington's "it's not color it's culture" card
something along those lines
simple river
what are the cops gonna do when i they find i don't pay taxes, have committed se...
SHOOT YOU
simple river
tranquil sleet
https://tenor.com/view/ouch-hurt-feelings-gif-23424502
wish that were me 👀
he looks so happy 
tranquil sleet
oh man you didn't have to make me homesick that way 😭
tranquil sleet
jeddah ❤️ 😭
jovial island
wait what
thats crazy tbhtbhtbht
i was just trying to get those files on my phone
tranquil sleet
lol
jovial island
so i figured i'd send them here then save them
tranquil sleet
yeah figured
tranquil sleet
god i miss it so much
jovial island
was great for sure
tranquil sleet
no fried chicken beats it
tranquil sleet
been 2 years god damn heckin covid
jovial island
well hope that the place you're living in now is better
jovial island
oh damn
tranquil sleet
it's so pretttttttttyyyyyyyyy
https://twitter.com/MrmoTarius/status/1546931303102259202 welp that was quick
rare moat
No one tried to compare one to the other or said one should be learned at the cost of the other.
But that would be getting a bit off topic. I am free to hop on an off topic channel if you wish
i mean if someone says "coding is the new literacy" that strikes me as a comparison in importance TBH.
lofty loom
I agree that coding isn't really as important as reading and writing skills
rich crater
> No one tried to compare one to the other or said one should be learned at the ...
It is typically meant that it is is one of the new life skills to navigate this brand new world
Sure, not everyone is meant to build the next startup, but at the very least, they get to understand that it is not just magic and give them the ability to automate and help themselves in their daily lives
rare moat
hm
lofty loom
Sure, not everyone is meant to build the next startup, but at the very least, th...
Yeah, this is like the kind of stance I think is good
rare moat
well i will admit, computers are undeniably an important part of society. probably one of the most important parts of it.
*modern society
lofty loom
And if they're really interested, they can like pursue Computer Science once they're into it
rich crater
Even a simple case like doing your budget on a spreadsheet is out of reach of most people outside of this discord
rare moat
i have said in the past that if anything were to be taught, it should probably be basic automation. stuff like shell scripts, macros for your spreadsheet tool, etc.
rich crater
Plus there is also the whole philosophical aspect about how the Internet has changed from having a lot of active participants to being a passive consumption channel (see youtube, netflix, twitter/tiktok)
lofty loom
i have said in the past that if anything were to be taught, it should probably b...
Schools teaching Visual Basic
rare moat
🤣 WE BRINGING BACK VB BOYS
rich crater
VB and delphi were aweome
rare moat
wait was Delphi taught in schools?!?
rich crater
I recommend to check out lazarus even
lofty loom
I couldn't be bothered writing scripts in MS Office
Since I don't use it often enough
rare moat
do you use MS Of- yeah
rich crater
wait was Delphi taught in schools?!?
depends on the school. I can tall you a story where my TECHNOLOGY teacher freaked out when I minimized a windowd and I had to show her that no, I was not hacking the system or breaking things and brought the window back
rare moat
i could not be bothered writing Makefiles for DOS- wait bad example.
lofty loom
Honestly I'm pretty annoyed that the Alt accessibility key makes Alt + Tabbing pretty annoying in MS Office
rare moat
depends on the school. I can tall you a story where my TECHNOLOGY teacher freake...
that gives me vibes of when i was in elementary school and me and my friends found out about inspect element.
we were changing the Dreambox website (hats off if you remember that site) all the time.
instead of doing our damn math work. 🤣
rich crater
curiosity is the mother of invention
lofty loom
depends on the school. I can tall you a story where my TECHNOLOGY teacher freake...
How and why was she freaking out over the simple act of minimizing a window?
rich crater
How and why was she freaking out over the simple act of minimizing a window?
she didn't know about it...
rare moat
did she actually not know about minimizing a window? 
lofty loom
When was this?
rare moat
she must have been an epic tiling window manager user. \s
rich crater
Remember that this discord is a self selected zone
In the real world, people are a lot less knowledgeable
Also my story happens like 20 years ago
rare moat
true, important to put things in perspective.
rich crater
actually more than that
rich crater
I could probably be a parent of most kids here
rare moat
there is a disturbing theme of me underestimating the ages of people here.
rare moat
When was this?
you are 18 right?
lofty loom
I'd be genuinely still surprised if people didn't know how to minimize windows in 2002
lofty loom
you are 18 right?
17
rich crater
I'd be genuinely still surprised if people didn't know how to minimize windows i...
even as an educated engineer I still curse at my printer 😉
rare moat
printors
i hate printers.
my papa's printer breaks all the damn time and i have to fix it.
lofty loom
Why do printers decide to not work when I actually need to print something
I have to use HP's repair software often
lofty loom
Even the scanner which is a part of the printer decides to not work when I need to scan
lofty loom
I still scan documents
rare moat
no no no nolike
lofty loom
And I also don't like the quality of photos
rare moat
what are you scanning them for.
lofty loom
School related stuff
rich crater
scanners are useful for all the paperwork
rare moat
oh ok i will accept that.
rich crater
then you can index it
lofty loom
And I also don't like the quality of photos
It's like I can't get the lighting right and I can't get it flat
lofty loom
It's like I can't get the lighting right and I can't get it flat
Dumb human hands making a shadow and also not level
rare moat
consider emitting photons
rare moat
Paper is a nightmare. Environmental issues aside, there’s no excuse for it in the 21st century. It takes up space, collects dust, doesn’t support any form of a search feature, indexing is tedious, it’s heavy and prone to damage & loss.
rare moat
But I will attract ***m o t h S***
moths are bros
rare moat
https://paperless-ng.readthedocs.io/en/latest/
stop the paper hate
wgat did paper do to you
lofty loom
> ng
Immediately I thought of Angular
Oh it is an Angular app
rich crater
stop the paper hate
save the planet and save space
lofty loom
I need to eat lunch
rare moat
can i have lunch
lofty loom
🐔
rare moat
save the planet and save space
fuk the planet
lofty loom
can i have lunch
You are lunch
Eat yourself
lofty loom
And eat VM Overlord crabs
rich crater
fuk the planet
that's fine, you are the younger one inheriting the planet. I will be dead by then
fluid plank
even as an educated engineer I still curse at my printer 😉
recurse? oooh
rich crater
recurse? oooh
and I will do it again
rare moat
how does it feel to be covered in stripes
lofty loom
how does it feel to be covered in stripes
You're a tiger
rare moat
eye of a tigr
lofty loom
rare moat
CRAB
rare moat
why does my cat
sleep with her face literally burrowed into the bed
like
how does she fucking breath
cat pictures
lofty loom
how does she fucking breath
Ostrich cat
lofty loom
Pickle C creature
rare moat
Yeah so
for some reason
__CHASH_NEXT_SIZE fails on UNIXWare..
OH WAIT
THATS PROBABLY NOT IT. ITS PROBABLY THE THRESHOLD CODE.
lofty loom
@rare moat Hmm,do you run NextStep on your VM?
rare moat
i need to get around to installing it. why?
round moss
why the double underscores?
rare moat
why the double underscores?
that is in a macro, so it is to avoid any name collisions with existing variables.
round moss
makes sense
rare moat
What about IRIX?
TBH, i lack a few older UNIXes.
the most esoteric UNIXes i have are:
- ULTRIX
- Version 7 UNIX
- UNIXWare
currently, neither ULTRIX nor V7U are running right now, though.
lofty loom
Hmm, one last question
rare moat
shoot
lofty loom
Do you have Microsoft's Unix? Xenix
rare moat
now that.
round moss
do you have the most used operating system in the world - MINIX 3?
rare moat
is something i do not have
rare moat
do you have the most used operating system in the world - MINIX 3?
i have an computer with an Intel CPU, so yeah. 🤪
round moss
fair enough
rare moat
cannot believe they actually do that.
round moss
actually, now that intel is losing market share, it may be less than android
rare moat
i was shocked when i learned they do that.
rare moat
Do you have Microsoft's Unix? Xenix
i wonder if you can even get Xenix anymore..
if so i might actually give a shot at installing it right now.
awesome, you can.
round moss
glad to see it is still running strong
rare moat
🤣 yeah me too.
honestly i am shocked 51 people even know of it.
What.
oh, it was sold to SCO.
those people have enough UNIXes.
- OpenServer
- UNIXWare
- Xenix
they need to Stop.
lofty loom
Tru64 Unix
rare moat
NO
STOP RIGHT THERE
if you do want a list of every VM i am running right now, though:
lofty loom
DEC VMS
rare moat
if you do want a list of every VM i am running right now, though:
(examples) >>= vmctl_list
Currently active virtual machines (TAPs):
TAP Name IP Alias PID
tap_debi11_2 debian11_2_0 663
tap_obsd7_0 openbsd7_0 664
tap_mint20_3 linuxmint20_3 665
tap_ssol10 sunsolaris10 666
tap_nbsd9_2 netbsd9_2 667
tap_osol10 oraclesolaris10 668
tap_fbsd13_0 freebsd13_0 669
(examples) >>=
on my current machine, and on my other computer:
- UNIXWare 7.1.4
- OS/2 Warp 4.52
- DragonflyBSD
i think i might have a problem.
lofty loom
Try running the PlayStation 3's OS :)
rare moat
interesting, it is a BSD.
The PlayStation 3 system software, is the updatable firmware and operating system of the PlayStation 3. The base operating system used by Sony for the PlayStation 3 is a fork of both FreeBSD and NetBSD known internally as CellOS or GameOS.[4][1] It uses XrossMediaBar as its graphical shell.
G A M E O S
GamerOS
lofty loom
Best Nix OS is obviously Hannah Montannah Linux
rare moat
obviously
round moss
GamerOS - Ubisoft's new competitor to steamOS
rare moat
it runs on the Gamer architecture
and its battery runs on GFuel
OH MY GOD ITS A TARBOMB.
or i guess in this case, a 7zbomb
alright lets get this guy started..
timber mango
uhhhh its true
brisk edge
when the uhhhh
radiant socket
aughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
timber mango
uhhhh i dont know
foggy flicker
uhhhhh
rustic harborBOT
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
clever salmonBOT
uhhhhhhhh
lofty loom
uhhhhhhhwwwuuuu
foggy flicker
more uhhhhhhhhhhh
brisk edge
uh uh
lofty loom
jovial island
the uhh
brazen jacinth
pydis lore confirmed?
brazen jacinth
wait for the sequels
.bm pydis lore confirmed
fast trench
Guys i got a new iPhone with those new jacks and i got some earphones (wired) but when I plug them in it asks me to connect? Anyone care to explain this 😭 the iPhone is the iPhone 11
jovial island
anyone here watch python videos because the girl is too cute?
dusky cliff
anyone here watch python videos because the girl is too cute?
no and that's a weird thing to say
brazen jacinth
anyone here watch python videos because the girl is too cute?
tf
remote widget
@brisk edge congrats on Helper!
rotund python
Good code that you were not able to write before, brings satisfaction. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0fkNdPiIL4
Finally ideal python package importing
jovial island
i am a sentence
say I have the words "i am" selected, what can I do in Vim to deselect that and select the rest of the line?
it's just for vimium in chrome, i want to easily select specific text on a page
willow plinth
jack the repr 👀
tranquil ridge
lol
normal veldt
lofty loom
jack the repr 👀
print(@unreal sigil.__repr__)
remote widget
`print(`<@284565640684109824>`.__repr__)`
How did u ping inside the ``?
real wing
hahahaha jack the repr. Oh Python Discord, you are too punny sometimes.
lofty loom
How did u ping inside the ``?
Hint: ||I didn't||
remote widget
Lmao
vale spire
hey guys, what are the coolest gadgets in a budget of around 250$
jovial island
Guido van Rossum
steel eagle
i need help can someone malware check a folder for me plsa
1: don't multipost
2: why can't you do it yourself?
Virustotal exists
jovial island
@native cobalt did you say gotham?????
jovial island
crimes are a serious matter🧍
jovial island
native cobalt
remote widget
i need help can someone malware check a folder for me plsa
virus total bro
mental pebble
radiant socket
the serif font in the discord
steel eagle
Wow it's been a long time since I've seen a worsershitcord screenshot
remote widget
Modded Discord Client 👀
slate leaf
Is this legit?
What do you mean by legit?
Even if it is what it says it is, its an illegal copy of MS Office
slate leaf
Sweet, so you will remove the link then?
dim panther
Yup
wheat aurora
@heavy canopy so that errored out for me. /svc and /v can't be used together it seems
heavy canopy
<@351171763448840194> so that errored out for me. `/svc` and `/v` can't be used ...
try it reversed
like tasklist /svc /v
wheat aurora
try it reversed
same error, looks like you need to choose between /svc, /v, or /m
wheat aurora
that lists all the processes I'm running and their PID
heavy canopy
can I see the format
wheat aurora
heavy canopy
thx
errant wharf
this isn't a python question
hello, i have been trying to connect my windows 7 to my tv to extend screen
but I can't
i literally tried every video in yt
such as add a device and chrome browser to cast
coarse wagon
yo wait do you know anything about parsec? and is it safe?
winter cove
My god, the font 🤮
rich crater
!rule 8
clever salmonBOT
compact moth
what's java? never heard of it 🐍
finite plinth
what's java? never heard of it 🐍
Nothing, leave it
rapid void
what's java? never heard of it 🐍
Coffee bean. Often used in the generation of Python code
wheat aurora
If anyone wants to vibe to a fucking jam of an alt-poprock song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbvoLAK7fIs
lofty loom
yo wait do you know anything about parsec? and is it safe?
It's owned by Unity, the people who make the game engine and may merge with a malware company called ironSource
mental idol
Victory... I'm so tired. This single method took me almost an hour to figure out. 🥴
def add_logging(self, level: str | int | None = None) -> None:
"""
Set the root log level for stderr output. If empty, config level is used.
Args:
level: String or Int representing logging level. (e.g.: "DEBUG", 10)
"""
level = level.upper() if isinstance(level, str) else level
config_level = self.config.get("DEFAULT", "logging_level", fallback="DEBUG")
config_fmt = self.config.get("DEFAULT", "logging_format", fallback="")
# Create our handler for root logger, don't touch existing handlers
handler = logging.StreamHandler()
handler.set_name("yolk_core")
handler.setFormatter(logging.Formatter(config_fmt))
logging.getLogger().addHandler(handler)
# Apply desired level to root logger
logging.getLogger().setLevel(level if level is not None else config_level)
what that
mental idol
A piece of a larger project to unify all the usual steps I do in a run-time initialization.
Working on getting logging tucked away in the main class. Add logging at given level. Probably a set_format() to allow custom formatting. Maybe as far as add_handlers() to allow file/stream handlers.
I'm basic with logging though so trying not to over build. xD
Hmmm. .add_logging(level), .get_logger(name), .add_log_file(filepath, level) Maybe.
bitter breach
Victory... I'm so tired. This single method took me almost an hour to figure out...
I gave up to making such things, now i just use loguru everywhere
lofty loom
@graceful rampart hello creatura
graceful rampart
<@459058696341946398> hello creatura
hell o
lofty loom
hi
coarse wagon
It's owned by Unity, the people who make the game engine and may merge with a ma...
Uh ? I’m talking about the remote work desk thing
lofty loom
Uh ? I’m talking about the remote work desk thing
Yes, and Unity owns it
I'm a bit doubtful of Parsec's safety too ever since that merger Unity announced
digital bane
Ate dinner at home normal portions ....not full so I probably snacc later onli feel full at eat all you can restos
knotty heart
took me too long to make. tkinter + mathplotlib
had to make the colour gradient myself manually
fluid plank
hmm familiar otn
coarse wagon
Yes, and Unity owns it
I virus totaled it it seems fine
lofty loom
I virus totaled it it seems fine
The merger's a recent event so of course ironSource's influence hasn't started yet
But I'm still wary given the sudden shift from Unity Technologies's higher ups (especially John Riccitielo)
mental idol
I gave up to making such things, now i just use loguru everywhere
While I do like loguru it does involve yet another package to put into requirements and sometimes that is a pain point. Standard library logging works for me, I don't need it to be fancy. The idea of runtime-yolk is to just run Yolk() and you're done. In the odd case I need a file output, a different config loaded, or a remove .env loaded there are little helper functions for that. :)
brazen jacinth
hurt 100
brazen jacinth
What did you do to get to that point
i restarted the computer (tbh i dunno what happened then), then i tried to fix the registry by using sfc and dism, then i checked the disk with diskpart.
now im here
coarse wagon
hurt 100
Yea same thing happend to me I just reset it a few times and it re loaded all of my users
nimble ivy
i restarted the computer (tbh i dunno what happened then), then i tried to fix t...
did windows also eject the C:\ drive?
edgy apex
i said "f*ck" 69 times in this server 🎉
twilit sundial
yo
#include <bits/stdc++.h>
#include <iostream>
using namespace std;
int cnt,num,task,temp,minn,maxx,mid,help,leftt;
int num_worker[10000];
int main()
{
cin>>cnt;
for(int i = 0;i<cnt;i++){
cout<<" ow";
cin>>num;
printf("num");
cin>>task;
printf("task");
for(int j = 0;j<task;j++){
num_worker[j]++;
}
cout<<"here";
leftt = 0;
help = 0;
minn = 1;
maxx = task*2;
while(minn<=maxx){
mid=(task+minn)/2;
for(int j=0;j<task;j++){
if(num_worker[j]>mid){
leftt+=(num_worker[j]-mid);
help+=0;
}
else if(num_worker[j] == mid){
leftt+=0;
help+=0;
}
else{
leftt+=0;
help+=((mid-num_worker[j])/2);
}
}
if(help>=leftt){
maxx = mid;
}
else{
minn = mid+1;
}
}
cout<<mid;
}
return 0;
}
```why it takes unlimited input after task?line 14
brazen jacinth
did windows also eject the C:\ drive?
Apparently yes, because the boot sector can't be found
nimble ivy
i said "f\*ck" 69 times in this server 🎉
now you f--ked it up
willow plinth
69 👀
daring copper
ummm... nice
frail grove
Victory... I'm so tired. This single method took me almost an hour to figure out...
I dislike it when project would take so long
jovial island
rate my fit guys
frail grove
personally, i think a longer skirt would fit better. but, it's up to you, not us
jovial island
i like it like this i think its the perfect size
frail grove
then rock it then
deft portal
Hi... I know it's a python server but I have literally two lines of bash code that don't work...
echo "$dir"```
**Here's the error:**
```dir: cannot access '=': No such file or directory
*directory I'm currently in:
*files in the directory```
does anybody spot the error?somehow it works if I remove the spaces in the first line
tranquil sleet
somehow it works if I remove the spaces in the first line
yes, that's the problem
errant seal
Bash is very odd, and spaces matter. In this case, assignments need to be in the form dir=$(pwd).
mental idol
I dislike it when project would take so long
It's taken me longer to get the cli piece done too T_T
Actually just starting on it.
tranquil sleet
how do you even eat that
digital bane
Y'all ever just get hungry enough to order a full pounder from McDonald's?
Yep and actually ate 10 Big Macs and 10 large fries in one sitting several times in the past...Still can
tranquil sleet
👀
digital bane
Moar patties
steel eagle
See I feel better now
tranquil sleet
lol
tranquil sleet
ya'll have huge appetite 🗿
digital bane
See I feel better now
Yeah I eat to feel better
tranquil sleet
1 burger and i'm good for a day
can't eat 2 tbh that'd be overkill
(in one sitting that is)
digital bane
Can relate
Altho im hungry almost all the time except when I go to eat all you can resto
mental idol
blarg... most of the work done before I need to retreat and gather strength for work. Took me nearly an hour of trying to juggle converting a string to a list to key:pairs and back while maintaining comments before I went "Oh snap, regex solves this in three lines!"
https://github.com/Preocts/runtime-yolk/pull/8/files
tranquil sleet
blarg... most of the work done before I need to retreat and gather strength for ...
regex moment, it's such a powerful tool yet one of the hardest to git gud at
mental idol
We won't talk about how ugly this function (and its two helper functions) was before I remembered patterns exist.
def _update_key(key: str, value: str, contents: str) -> str:
"""Updtes key=value, returns contents. Raises KeyError if key is missing."""
key_pattern = re.compile(rf"{key.upper()}(\s+)?=")
sub_pattern = re.compile(rf"{key.upper()}(\s+)?=.+")
match = key_pattern.search(contents)
if not match:
raise KeyError("Key to update was not found in file.")
return sub_pattern.sub(f"{key.upper()}={value}", contents)
it honestly looks pretty good
mental idol
and I still think I'm doing more work than needed. Pretty sure I can have one pattern that matches the key:value in a group and then just sub the value from that pattern.
radiant socket
Updtes
tranquil sleet
very readable imo
radiant socket
no docker?
tranquil sleet
sad
mental idol
https://github.com/Preocts/runtime-yolk/commit/e75a672b10eb3372b99426c77f194482a06fc3c4 Oh yeah, GitHub lets you edit things.
mental idol
no docker?
No, I just use wsl2. But I just nuked it and the rebuild script is still running. Usually takes 15 minutes.
I hope to be in bed by then. 
radiant socket
😬 15 minutes bruh
tranquil sleet
oh boy
mental idol
blame ms store for their fantastic download speeds.
One day I'll get vm virtualbox working and have images to just click and boot.
something something my AMD chipset doesn't like some rogue setting and just freezes the vm.
goodnight!
jovial island
We won't talk about how ugly this function (and its two helper functions) was be...
u could put match inline with if statement since u do not use it elsewhere. also sub pattern is the key pattern for use u have
depending on what u do to call the entire thing could be just sub pattern return one line. if raise is not value that is
brazen jacinth
Y'all ever just get hungry enough to order a full pounder from McDonald's?
n
o
frail grove
It's taken me longer to get the cli piece done too T_T
I feel ya. I'm still not done with a 2000 lines project. Ugh. Definitely taking a break after that
jovial island
tranquil sleet
fine i'll get it 🗿
jovial island
get what ?!
jovial island
the honda civic at 3am😳
median blade
do this in beamNG 
jovial island
is it comp or standard?
just casual driving
jovial island
the honda civic at 3am😳
its not a civic but sure lmao
jovial island
do this in beamNG <:lmfao:889455935913865216>
will try to
jovial island
its not a civic but sure lmao
i know im just joking lolll
jovial island
whats the games name? ive never seen it before lol
tranquil sleet
assetto corsa
jovial island
mhm nice
weary epoch
going to leave this here
jovial island
going to leave this here
delete this
weary epoch
brazen jacinth
going to leave this here
🔫 goodbye
grim beacon
this makes me want to play Forza
mental idol
depending on what u do to call the entire thing could be just sub pattern return...
interesting
jovial island
going to leave this here
how is this allowed
fluid plank
going to leave this here
thats so pretty
fervent fiber
going to leave this here
That's very classy
jovial island
hello everyone
abstract wing
hello everyone
hello
jovial island
hru
abstract wing
so where are you from?
jovial island
russia
abstract wing
russia
arabia saudi
how are the bears : )
huh. i think he get mad ?
it was a joke...
frail grove
going to leave this here
looks cursed. i do wonder what text editor was used.
weary epoch
notepad++
restive remnant
I take personal offense to this otn
dusky cliff
working as intended
foggy flicker
Helpers have skill issue
tranquil sleet
brisk edge
no u
willow plinth
penguins are epic
foggy flicker
I see some highly intelligent ppl here
lofty loom
Helpers are server monkeys
brisk edge
come again 🎙️
woven cape
some servers' helpers are server monkeys
brazen jacinth
.bm skill issue moment
zealous hazel
hah thats a clip of me and my homies back in 1699, in the jungles of the middle east. good times bro
willow plinth
dayum
remote widget
I see some highly intelligent ppl here
penguins are uncool
twilit sundial
guys is there any wait until command in python?
For example wait until list is not empty
List is empty, wait until there is at least one element in list
radiant socket
in multithreading?
twilit sundial
in multithreading?
no the function I want to use it is synronous. But an another threading function affects the list.
But main code is asynchronous
I'll write to general chat
brazen jacinth
For example wait until list is not empty
While len(list) > 0:pass
fluid plank
u no
brazen jacinth
!rule 9 sorry bud
clever salmonBOT
fallow veldt
whoops sorry, thank you though
jovial island
how much plastic would a plastic chuck chuck if a plastic chuck could chuck plastic
r705
actually
border-radius: 10px; sounds like good guess
mental idol
Ya ever have a moment that you're installing your library from git and just can't figure out why your changes are doing nothing? Only to understand that you haven't pushed the changes?
restive remnant
Ya ever have a moment that you're installing your library from git and just can'...
No, but I have had that moment where I realized that my changes aren't showing up because I forgot to push a new release to PyPi
I was staring at GitHub going all the commits are right here
mental idol
Yeeeup
Holy heck success...
(venv) preocts @ Preocts ~/python-src-template (preocts-20220720)
└─▶ $ ls vendor/module_name/sample_data/
__init__.py __pycache__ sample.csv
sample.csv is finally included
Thank you @restive remnant , your links once again proved super helpful.
restive remnant
Happy to help
mental idol
I was in the middle of a "small" restructure last night, pulled in my handy template, was readjusting the tests to run on more agreeable terms, and then realized I wasn't getting the single datafile in the mix. Dinked with it for 30 minutes and finally just cut the json template out of the data file and tossed it in a .py file for import.
Now I can go back and make that right. 
rapid void
@tranquil sleet My eldest son went off to study maths at University. He reckoned I'd get on well with one of his lecturers who he said was kicking off an open source mathematics research project and I should take a look.
So I did, and disappeared down a rabbit hole from which I'm yet to emerge!
I used it as part of teaching his younger brother Python!
for a while, he had the highest scoring strategy in the project. And then machine learning people found it
tranquil sleet
oh man, the luck of the draw
rapid void
yeah, an odd connection for sure
tranquil sleet
honestly hearing how things started for you is such a stress relief for me because I've been stressing myself out for no reason because I haven't been... lucky enough to land on things that I am passionate about
i haven't touched python in a week! been drawing a little and i've been far more relaxed than i've ever been
rapid void
If I look back, every single opportunity that has worked out for me has been something that I could not have predicted. I try to work hard, learn stuff, help people, stick to my word, deliver what I promised and, over time, stuff finds me via word of mouth.
When people ask what my plan was/is, I just laugh. There has never been one and never will.
tranquil sleet
😭 same! I should probably stop stressing out needlessly(though I'm job hunting so I can let some stress slide)
tranquil sleet
for a while, he had the highest scoring strategy in the project. And then machin...
this just puts a smile on my face, OSS is truly fascinating, someone with no good educational background can be just as good/knowledgeable as those PhD holders
rapid void
I very much believe it's harder for those starting out now than it was for me. Hope the hunting goes well.
tranquil sleet
yeah it's quite a tough field to land first job but oh well can't really complain
rapid void
this just puts a smile on my face, OSS is truly fascinating, someone with no goo...
Yeah, he was 15 or 16 at the time. It was hugely entertaining!
rapid void
he realised that some of the tools we'd build in the library (plots that we output) hadn't been available when the original tournaments happened and he could use those to create strategies that were better
no, this started in 2015
tranquil sleet
neato, those repo hunters are modern day archeologists
finding a gem of a repo with little to no stars on github can be super duper exciting
rapid void
this just puts a smile on my face, OSS is truly fascinating, someone with no goo...
There's a great talk by Daniele Procida on that subject. Let me find it...
tranquil sleet
aye
rapid void
All about how power and influence is lying around waiting to be grabbed in the OSS world, unlike pretty much any other field of human endeavour
tranquil sleet
I'll save this one for tonight when i'm delivering cargos across europe
definitely not in euro truck simulator
rapid void
well, good luck waiting in the queues for Dover if you're going anywhere near this country!
tranquil sleet
🤣
i believe that was my destination about 2 deliveries ago and i must say, they did the traffic really well 🤣
rapid void
not a realistic simulator, then?!
tranquil sleet
wait Dover isn't jam packed with traffic?!
rapid void
ah! I see. You mean they accurately simulated parking you on the M3 for days at a time?!!
whilst slinging bottles of driver tizer out of the window
tranquil sleet
😭
sudden heron
https://youtube.com/shorts/r-iL_pCzBHc?feature=share
automated rubber ducking, anyone? 
lofty loom
Wait, am I hearing this right? A 15/16 year old in university?
tranquil sleet
Wait, am I hearing this right? A 15/16 year old in university?
"younger brother"
brazen jacinth
Wait, am I hearing this right? A 15/16 year old in university?
nani?
brazen jacinth
https://youtube.com/shorts/r-iL_pCzBHc?feature=share
automated rubber ducking, a...
.bm explaining code
mental idol
plush garden
I dont have potatoes now
restive remnant
<@285152779465654272> <https://github.com/Preocts/runtime-yolk/pull/10/commits/4...
🎉
restive remnant
<@285152779465654272> <https://github.com/Preocts/runtime-yolk/pull/10/commits/4...
Look at what these game devs are trying to pass off as an .ini file
https://pingperfect.com/index.php/knowledgebase/971/Ark-Survival-Evolved--How-to-change-Engram-Points-Earned.html