discord-bots

[gritty inlet]

That's a different issue
Could be in Program Files or in AppData/Local/Programs

that's not related

[nimble kindle]

its not giving me that issue anymore im just getting yellow lines under words do i just pip

[gritty inlet]

check bottom right to see if vscode is set on the right Python instance

[nimble kindle]

python 3.14.4

[gritty inlet]

and does pip surely install for 3.14? could be conflicting with another version maybe?

on ur machine

and make sure you installed primp if you haven't

[nimble kindle]

i only have 3.14.4

so just pip install everything now?

[gritty inlet]

yes

[gloomy hollow]

!intents

[unkempt canyon]

Using intents in discord.py

Intents are a feature of Discord that tells the gateway exactly which events to send your bot. Various features of discord.py rely on having particular intents enabled, further detailed in its documentation. Since discord.py v2.0.0, it has become mandatory for developers to explicitly define the values of these intents in their code.

There are standard and privileged intents. To use privileged intents like Presences, Server Members, and Message Content, you have to first enable them in the Discord Developer Portal. In there, go to the Bot page of your application, scroll down to the Privileged Gateway Intents section, and enable the privileged intents that you need. Standard intents can be used without any changes in the developer portal.

Afterwards in your code, you need to set the intents you want to connect with in the bot's constructor using the intents keyword argument, like this:

from discord import Intents
from discord.ext import commands

# Enable all standard intents and message content
# (prefix commands generally require message content)
intents = Intents.default()
intents.message_content = True

bot = commands.Bot(command_prefix="!", intents=intents)

For more info about using intents, see discord.py's related guide, and for general information about them, see the Discord developer documentation on intents.

[whole shoal]

The startup ram went from 475 MB to 269 MB, safe enough for sharding right

[velvet swan]

When I start typing a slash command (for example,/warn @user reason) and then switch to another channel before finishing, the partially entered command gets lost when I return, so I have to start over. I tried the modal approach, but that’s not what I want.

[fast osprey]

If it's a discord limitation with how the client behaves, it's not like code you write can fix it. Why would you need to switch channels?

[velvet swan]

Sometimes we have to, but I see in some bots it doesn't happen without that modal approach.

[fast osprey]

I don't know what you're expecting here. There's not a "remember this parameter" flag when you declare a command

[celest pelican]

I often do that on this server when moderating, e.g. !ban <some ID> some reason with [context]( (then I switch to another channel to copy some ID) ).

[fast osprey]

Just testing on mobile my typed slash command stays after switching back and forth

Even when switching between servers entirely too

[fast osprey]

That makes sense, depending on what id you're copying ideally that would either be a param or a context menu in the case of slashes

[celest pelican]

User ID, yeah that could often work.

[velvet swan]

Mine are not staying.

[fast osprey]

Are you on mobile?

[velvet swan]

On PC.

[fast osprey]

Either way this sounds like a client issue and isn't a code/bot issue

Might be your client version or could just be an existing bug

[quick gust]

Well mine stay, make sure your Discord is updated

[velvet swan]

So, I reviewed the code and updated Discord on PC & Mobile, but the issue persists.

[fast osprey]

Can you describe in detail what you're doing and seeing step by step?

[quick gust]

Well, we can't help you here then

This isn't a code issue

Unless solstice wants to help you figure it out ofc ^^

[velvet swan]

Thanks, it got fixed.

The bot was using global sync for slash commands, so I switched the bot to server-only sync after clearing the existing synced commands globally.

[unkempt canyon]

Print and return

Here's a handy animation demonstrating how print and return differ in behavior.

See also: /tag return

[plain flame]

Hello

[plucky fjord]

anyone alive here

[north kiln]

No

[smoky sable]

Yo

[fast osprey]

[remote yacht]

yes

[fading oracle]

I made a discord bot

[whole sparrow]

huge

[fading oracle]

Wanna test? 💖

[fast osprey]

If test here means functional testing to see if the bot does what you think it should, that's something you can very quickly do yourself.

If test here means using it as intended and giving feedback, you will get better feedback from targetting communities who would actually use your bot more than the collection of random developers (who probably wouldn't actually use your bot)

[idle wind]

Hey can someone help me with making a Discord Seller bot

[fast osprey]

Selling what, exactly?

[rare lintel]

why are old slash commands not being removed from my test guild?

they still persist even though they don't exist anymore

[fast osprey]

What library are you using?

If it's discord.py, the library won't update commands for you. You have to sync, and it's quite possible you synced guild-scoped commands but did not sync on that guild again later once you had removed them from your code

[rare lintel]

yeah discord.py

[fast osprey]

Then yeah, you'll want to try syncing on that guild again

[stoic minnow]

dm me

[stoic minnow]

just reauth the bot into the guild

simple fix

[rare lintel]

no that does not work. i fixed it but through app command management in the code

[solid grove]

Look in my bio 🫣

[fast osprey]

Nah im good

[grave sandal]

You don't have a bio

[patent lark]

Anyone know why i get this error when my bot joins a voice channel? The bot will reconnect over and over.

[gleaming inlet]

what version of discord.py did you install?

[gleaming inlet]

!pip discord.py

[unkempt canyon]

discord.py v2.7.1

A Python wrapper for the Discord API

Released on <t:1772563246:D>.

[patent lark]

yikes

[gleaming inlet]

The latest is 2.7.1

[patent lark]

Thank you, thats 100% something i shouldve checked lol. Sorry!

[gleaming inlet]

sometimes its not just updating the version. It might be something else like permissions or something. So what I did was I googled for that last error message traceback "discord.errors.ConnectionClosed: Shard ID None WebSocket closed with 4006" and it led me to the Github repo for discord.py's issues. Someone with the same discord.py version as you also had this problem. They fixed it in 2.6.0

[patent lark]

Yes, the version was the issue.

[gleaming inlet]

No. The version was not the issue. The issue was in the old version, it was a bug. They have fixed it and released it in the later version

[patent lark]

I know, thats what i mean lol.

I was running the version that had the issue, upgrading my version fixed it.

[woeful hill]

There was not a bug, discordpy 2.7 added support for dave which discord enforced

[timber dragon]

Nah that's 4017 iirc

4006 was the different voice urls thing

[north kiln]

what's dave

oh

[drifting thunder]

Hey dm me

[stoic minnow]

dude it does select application commands

otherwise get better latency

💀

[rare lintel]

what on earth are you talking about? look how many people have reacted with a question mark

[finite salmon]

bros on to nothing

[white hollow]

who is good at coding and making stuff

[fast osprey]

You, with enough effort and resources 🙂

[twin vigil]

Hey, me. Do you need someone to work for you?

[urban prism]

could you teach me some basics?

[woeful hill]

!res

[unkempt canyon]

Resources

The Resources page on our website contains a list of hand-selected learning resources that we regularly recommend to both beginners and experts.

[twin vigil]

Hey, contact me in dm.

[fast osprey]

Don't trust randos herding you into dms when they can very well answer questions where everyone else can chime in

[twin vigil]

Bro hey

Why would i use the public chat?

He wants to learn python

Or coding something

[fast osprey]

Because others can correct you if/when you're wrong

[twin vigil]

Believe me, I have several discord bots etc. I'm not going to be wrong

[fast osprey]

Right, the "just trust me bro" approach

I've seen the creators of discord libraries get things wrong from time to time. You're human

[twin vigil]

So? I made discord bots for several bigger and smaller Mc servers. They was all good with it and happy. I don't think I would fail doing a discord bot / teaching how to do.

[fast osprey]

You're welcome to think you're infallible and never wrong but that's just not realistic. They also lose absolutely nothing from asking questions in a public forum that encourages them to do so

[twin vigil]

I didn't said I could be never wrong, just don't think I would be wrong after doing discord bots for 9 years now.

[fast osprey]

The implication was "never wrong in the topic you're claiming to never be wrong in"

[twin vigil]

How long did you work in python?

[quick gust]

Just gonna point out, kinda weird your account is only 4 years old

[twin vigil]

Because I didn't had discord when I started learning m

[fast osprey]

This isn't about me, I'm not claiming to be a sole source of truth

I get things wrong and like having people to fact check me so both me and the person I'm helping can learn

[twin vigil]

ye

[radiant shuttle]

any trick to align this in container v2?

[fast osprey]

cv2 doesnt have justification. You either have to live with that, make v1 embeds, or generate an image

[velvet swan]

If you’re running multiple Discord bots, is it better to containerize each bot in its own Docker container and manage them with Docker Compose?

[fast osprey]

It depends on what purposes those individual bots serve

[velvet swan]

They serve different purposes, such as moderation, utilities, and study for the same server.

[fast osprey]

Docker is fine but might be overkill for what you're doing. Containerization is a good skill to learn but not strictly necessary for what you're doing

#tools-and-devops might be a better place for more nuanced opinions, as the fact you're running a discord bot inside of a container doesnt really impact the nature of the container or orchestration layer

[velvet swan]

My goal is to learn and write code that will be easy for someone else to understand and work on easily in the future.

Tysm, for opinion, though!

[fast osprey]

If the bots are truly independent you could just make dockerfiles for each of them

[velvet swan]

Yeah, they’re.

[nova anchor]

Looking for experienced and motivated bot developers to help contribute with a project

[timber dragon]

!rule 9

[unkempt canyon]

Rules

9. Do not offer or ask for paid work of any kind.

[unreal summit]

he never sad paid

[timber dragon]

True

I thought it was still relevant without the "paid" part

[delicate flax]

Hy, is the discord "apply to join" feature supported by discord.py?

[fast osprey]

It's not supported by the api at all, it's specifically meant for human moderators afaik

[delicate flax]

Hmm ok thank you

[stark ingot]

It's undocumented so it won't be supported by most libraries. But you get an event containing the submission info when the user submits. However approval/denial is still locked to non bot users

[urban prism]

ok ty

[velvet swan]

I need an opinion on whether this would be sufficient for running three bots.

[stark ingot]

It really depends on what the bots do, how many servers they are in, and how well you have optimized their performance (in terms of events and caching)

[velvet swan]

Only one server, for context, moderation, tickets/modmail, and study-related. I know it's quite vague as I didn't say what features the bots have.

[stark ingot]

TBH that should be enough for one server, but you could profile them to be sure, and start with that and upgrade if needed

[velvet swan]

Tysm, Ice. That would be an ideal approach I feel like.

[sick birch]

should be plenty. If you want to, you could cut down on CPU core count due to the nature of discord bots

[loud patrol]

hai!! wanna share my bot and maybe get some recommendations or smth idk
https://github.com/MagM1go/marionette/tree/main

[fast osprey]

Definitely do not need to request every intent, for starters. It's hard to do a full code review with the readme not in english and the project structure a bit sprawling

[loud patrol]

Here's English readme link on top

[fast osprey]

Seems pretty well structured though. Any particular reason for using redis and postgres instead of just a sqlite db?

[loud patrol]

that's my comfort stack and postgresql just better—for me this is a good reason to not use sqlits

[fast osprey]

"better" how?

If it's one process running on one machine, a distributed cache (redis) and a client-server db (postgres) are pretty unnecessary

[loud patrol]

I think "comfort stack" is enough to chose, someone suggested me to use cockroach db and that's overkill on overkill.

Redis never used here, I removed part where redis was used, but I have some ideas where redis probably needed.

[fast osprey]

Well you asked for feedback so there it is 😂 . Worth considering tools better suited for the specific problem over things you're comfortable with when you solved different problems

[loud patrol]

Tools partially explained in README, I just went with my comfort stack. And the feedback I'm looking for isn't only about tooling, more about code review, architecture, anything you noticed

[fast osprey]

I mean if you're going to brush off legitimate feedback as just saying you prefer something else, I'm not sure what other feedback is going to be fruitful

[loud patrol]

Sorry if that came off rude, my english isn't great so sometimes it lands worse than I mean.

I don't mean sqlite is worse or smth, but postgres has more to work with

[fast osprey]

More isn't the same as better when you don't need those features to solve the problem at hand. But I think the db choice has been discussed enough

[loud patrol]

I understand that

[glad cradle]

there's a lot of verbosity

[loud patrol]

any specific spots?

[glad cradle]

from marionette.application.usecases.onboarding.onboarding_base_usecase import BaseOnboardingUseCase
https://github.com/MagM1go/marionette/blob/main/src/marionette/application/usecases/onboarding/move_onboarding_to_intro_usecase.py#L2

the filenames are in general pretty long

[loud patrol]

that's a DDD habit, filenames should be structured to reflect "ubiquitous language"

[vapid parcel]

!paste

[unkempt canyon]

Pasting large amounts of code

So that everyone can easily read your code, you can paste it in this website:
https://paste.pythondiscord.com/

After pasting your code, save it by clicking the Paste! button in the bottom left, or by pressing CTRL + S. After doing that, you will be navigated to the new paste's page. Copy the URL and post it here so others can see it.

[gritty inlet]

Nested folders of doom

I'm sure it's possible to really minimize that

And why is there a whole file just for a base ✌🏻

[woeful hill]

looks like normal java codebase to me

[grave sandal]

You're not exactly doing clean architecture as your readme says. Your entities/domain is filled with persistence concerns. You look like you're going in the right direction but to be blunt it feels like you're forcing a file structure with it. Should you really have to go to a separate file just to update the fields of a result object?

You're running the risk of structuring your project not what is best to navigate for other developers but based on rigid rules of an architecture.

https://github.com/MagM1go/marionette/tree/main/src/marionette/application/dto

[loud patrol]

yeah, readme says it's not "100% clean arch", it explicitly mentions where it steps aside, mostly to avoid boilerplate from mapping orm models to domain models and back.

and fair point on the DTOs, they're probably taking up more space than they deserve. each one is used by a single usecase and not shared, so moving them next to the usecase that returns them makes sense (if I understand you correctly)

[grave sandal]

I can't follow the code that is there or get an idea of what is going on or being dealt with very easily but for development and working with it even though it has some violations I think you structured application and domain (directory structure and filename wise really well).

The infrastructure directory is more scattered than necessary imo. And the protocols directory under application isn't intuitive. If character protocol is actually a character repository and the other thing is a manager it would be better to name them that because that'll be what's being looked for, i.e. if you know almost any of these architectures is being used, look for the repositories.

The infrastructure directory has a directory for the repositories, which transactions go with, but transactions are in a different directory. It would probably make more sense to just have the repository files at the root of the database directory.

[loud patrol]

Would you mind if I reply with AI translation? My English is not good in writing

[grave sandal]

You should also consider taking more advantage of the use case pattern. You get to do what you normally don't, name classes with verbs, representing an action a user can do or be taken for them. EntranceUseCase is vague imo. In general you wouldn't be able to do a class like BuyItem (different domain obviously) but you add BuyDomainUseCase you get a noun. Also consider adding more descriptive methods than just execute.
https://github.com/MagM1go/marionette/blob/main/src/marionette/application/usecases/entrance_usecase.py

[grave sandal]

Go for it

[loud patrol]

Yeah, I get that following the code without documentation and context is hard. That's the real cost of layering is tracing one feature jumps across multiple files. And thanks for the kind words on the structure :)

[grave sandal]

Layering doesn't cause that. You could have everything in a single file and have logical layers so that stuff can change independently, but with any project you break it down to make it easier to deal with. In your case the database/entities/business logic is independent of presentation logic and to a limited but probably more complicated to change extent your use cases independent of the database (you could technically remove all the database code from the entities and use something different in the future). Context is hard when you structure around technical concerns rather than developer experience. Some of your project structure I think is really good and your effort is better than MANY others. But you sound like you're making the mistake of letting the architecture dictate your project structure, which that probably is best in some places but not others, you have to be pragmatic about it.

[loud patrol]

Maybe a bit scattered, true. Historical context: there used to be a redis repository alongside the sql ones, that's why repositories/ was a separate sibling to database/. Redis is gone for now (probably will come back later for some cases), so right now the split is harder to justify. Either flatten now and re-split when other repo types come back, or keep it anticipating that. Leaning towards flattening for now actually.
About protocols — yeah, I've been told this before. Ironic since I argued ubiquitous language to snipy earlier in this thread, and character_protocol.py is exactly what that argument is supposed to prevent. Naming after the role (repository, manager) makes more sense.

[grave sandal]

That's fair. I'd aim to flatten though as well though. Or you could put everything for sqlalchemy in one package and redis in another and respective repositories and stuff in each. Whatever you feel is best to work with is what is important.

[loud patrol]

ah yeah, that makes sense. as a non-native speaker it wasn't entirely obvious how that's supposed to sound. will definitely fix it, thanks.

[loud patrol]

agreed in principle, but i'll leave it as is for now. I actually have a doc with planned places where redis will come back, so the split will make sense again soon. if those plans don't materialize, flattening would be the right call

[gritty inlet]

Right now it's more hard to find stuff than it is easy, imo

[fast osprey]

Yeah to be honest I found it hard to really get into reviewing this. It feels very overengineered for a single dev on a single server, like following design patterns dogmatically when you aren't even running into the problems those patterns were made to address

[misty torrent]

Hi I am new person

Hello there

[misty torrent]

I am beginner

[loud patrol]

cool

[maiden jungle]

cool, what wloud you like to learn?

[desert frost]

Hey guys, I created my own script that retrieves device data and displays it to the user. I'd like to send this collected data to a Discord webhook. Is that possible? In python

[fast osprey]

Yup

webhooks are just a rest endpoint you can post whatever data you want to (in the right format). There's also a bunch of libraries that make that easier

[fast osprey]

I should probably get better at pinging people when it's an hour later

[unkempt canyon]

Cooldowns in discord.py

Cooldowns can be used in discord.py to rate-limit. In this example, we're using it in an on_message.

from discord.ext import commands

message_cooldown = commands.CooldownMapping.from_cooldown(1.0, 60.0, commands.BucketType.user)

@bot.event
async def on_message(message):
    bucket = message_cooldown.get_bucket(message)
    retry_after = bucket.update_rate_limit()
    if retry_after:
        await message.channel.send(f"Slow down! Try again in {retry_after} seconds.")
    else:
        await message.channel.send("Not ratelimited!")

from_cooldown takes the amount of update_rate_limit()s needed to trigger the cooldown, the time in which the cooldown is triggered, and a BucketType.

[gritty inlet]

Making my own API spec unpacker cuz I'm bored

[timber dragon]

Nice

[slate swan]

THIS channel has a slowmode?????

[grim valve]

How would I make a bot that spams messages?

[full ether]

why would you want to do that

[scarlet tiger]

!rule 5

[unkempt canyon]

Rules

5. Do not provide or request help on projects that may violate terms of service, or that may be deemed inappropriate, malicious, or illegal.

[unreal summit]

!rule 5

[unkempt canyon]

Rules

5. Do not provide or request help on projects that may violate terms of service, or that may be deemed inappropriate, malicious, or illegal.

[loud patrol]

!rule 5

[unkempt canyon]

Rules

5. Do not provide or request help on projects that may violate terms of service, or that may be deemed inappropriate, malicious, or illegal.

[celest pelican]

Could y'all not, please? One invocation is enough

[grim valve]

My bad

[abstract river]

any guides I could find to learn coding a discord bot?

[stark ingot]

Use only guides that are officially recommended by the library you use. 3rd party guides are generally poor quality.

Pick one of these or ask in the library you use support server.
Pycord: https://guide.pycord.dev/introduction
Disnake: https://guide.disnake.dev/
Nextcord: https://docs.nextcord.dev/en/stable/#getting-started and disnakes guide has portions for nextcord as well I think
Discord.py: https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/stable/#getting-started or this one that some people like some people don't https://fallendeity.github.io/discord.py-masterclass/
Hikari: https://docs.hikari-py.dev/en/stable/ not sure if they have more of a guide
Hata: https://github.com/HuyaneMatsu/hata not really sure the best place to start for this

[celest pelican]

@fading oracle This is not a meme channel.

[fading oracle]

Sorry 😔

Where is meme channel

[celest pelican]

There is no meme channel. But for off-topic chat go to #ot0-psvm’s-eternal-disapproval, #ot1-perplexing-regexing, or #ot2-never-nester’s-nightmare.

[velvet swan]

I have a question about whether it is more practical to store a bot token in a .env file or in Docker Secrets with Swarm.

[fast osprey]

Probably more of a question for #tools-and-devops , secrets aren't a bot specific concept

[past rose]

​Hi all! I’m interested in making my own bot but I’m a total beginner.Does anyone have experience in this and feel like mentoring/walking me through the initial setup? Any help would be awesome! 🙏

[stark ingot]

The first step is to ensure that you have a basic understanding of python fundamentals including classes/objects.
The next step is to choose a library (or use the raw API but that is not recommended for beginners). There is a list of popular libraries on this site: https://libs.advaith.io/#python
Additionally, dont use youtube tutorials or random 3rd party tutorials online. They are often outdated and use bad practices.

[split briar]

!e

[unkempt canyon]

Missing required argument

code

[grim delta]

I mean, you don't need to know classes, it's just more useful

[stark ingot]

Classes are pretty essential if you are using a discord bot library.

Almost all data that you get from the library will be an object of a class

[gritty inlet]

Everything is an object of a class

[grim delta]

Fair enough! I believe I’ve done it before without a class but doing it with is probably better 🙂

[fast osprey]

The joke is that you're using classes whether or not you yourself are making new ones

[smoky sinew]

what is the most popular library that is not based off discord.py?

[sick birch]

hikari probably

[smoky sinew]

I tried that one a little bit ago

are there others?

[sick birch]

none that are popular

[stark ingot]

Hata

[timber dragon]

see https://libs.advaith.io/#python

[finite salmon]

Whats the problem with discord.py

[timber dragon]

Everything

[silver reef]

Disnake was good

[woeful hill]

not based off of discord.py

[gritty inlet]

I can now mention one - cache control

If you could either have more control over cache or be able to use the library at its "core" level that would be nice

[finite salmon]

yeah thats tru

[fast osprey]

What layer of control do you feel would be useful that you don't have?

[novel skiff]

I suggest using docs.python.org. It is well reputed and As @stark ingot suggested libs.advaith.io/#python. Also I suggest using the official documentation of libraries. I think that a code editor like VS code can help.

[novel skiff]

Also install the official Python app for windows or Linux

[gritty inlet]

I'd start by being able to disable more cache because why is a bot with no intents/chunking taking 80mb to begin with

Lemme check again without modules tho

The smallest it gets (requires using only necessary libraries and modules) is 60 MB

But it's not only about the bot process - looks like the library itself weighs a bunch (pre and post import in image)
But for this I cannot blame them at all, that's just usual Python stuff

[fast osprey]

What in the cache do you want to disable? Intents let you control a good bit of it

[gritty inlet]

Well now I'm unsure as I see most of the weight is the whole library

[celest pelican]

!clban 1489292592301609096 some kind of scam

[unkempt canyon]

:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied ban to @edgy wraith permanently.

[velvet swan]

What are possible options for storing ModMail/Tickets’ transcripts besides saving them as HTML files, and plain texts? For context, the bot isn't large or used across multiple servers.

[fast osprey]

Just use threads in discord

[rugged shadow]

or forum channels

[fast osprey]

Forums are just threads under the hood, and they're forced to all be public threads. They're great and easy to use though if you're fine with things being public

[stark ingot]

If you use mod mail the transcript is saved automatically within discord because it is in the DM channel

[delicate mason]

https://docs.rs/serenity/latest/serenity/

[nimble kindle]

sad this channel died i use to ask for help all the time now i understand py a lot more

AI ruined it

[fast osprey]

People can still ask questions if they have them though

[torpid cedar]

@oak blade helloooo

[oak blade]

why ru tagging me everywhere

[torpid cedar]

Old

Just dnr it

[oak blade]

Ok

[tawny canyon]

i made a discord auto server maker bot who wanna buy it

[fast osprey]

Might want to double check the rules here

[wet compass]

fr💀

[timber dragon]

Just casually promoting a tool that breaks the tos and exactly why the endpoint was restricted

[young dagger]

What would be the best approach to track voice channel status changes?

Run a task that fetches audit logs every now and then or is there a better way?

[fast osprey]

iirc they're phasing out that feature anyways, nobody really uses it

[young dagger]

Until they do, is there a recommended way to do it?

[fast osprey]

on_guild_channel_update

[obsidian void]

Not anymore https://docs.discord.com/developers/change-log#voice-channel-status-and-start-time-documentation

It was for some time not documented due to its future not being known, got documented now that it's staying

[fast osprey]

oh good to know

[young dagger]

Voice status doesn’t seem to be part of the channel updates

[stark ingot]

The doc linked by krypton lists the gateway events

[fast osprey]

ah there's a separate event yeah

[young dagger]

Do you need to send a request every time to see the changes?

[woeful hill]

They send you the data

It's an event, just like on_member_update when someone updates their profile, or other events

[young dagger]

How do I catch them? I'm using discord.py

[fast osprey]

might not be implemented in dpy

[timber dragon]

Not at all

[twin vault]

But some guy made a server cloner tool plugin in vencord for free

[timber dragon]

Another tos breaking tool!

[winter venture]

Who cares

No one enforcing tos

[timber dragon]

True but that doesn't mean you shouldn't

[twin vault]

Yeah exactly and it works also

[timber dragon]

Why would it not work

[twin vault]

Idk i just have noticed a lot of tools just break or not work

This is the first time seeing it work

[timber dragon]

It working doesn't means you aren't risking your account by breaking the tos

[timber dragon]

Oh lmao

[twin vault]

Yeah

[tawny canyon]

Nah like it uses ai to make dc server based on what u tell it then the bot does everything perms roles channels

[fast osprey]

Readily available llms made by billion dollar corporations can't tell you how many r's are in the word strawberry. Interpreting human language to do something as complex as design a server is laughable

[twin vault]

Oh alright can i be a tester?

[tawny canyon]

dm

[twin vault]

Okay

[amber dirge]

.w

[winter rain]

yo can someone help me on how to code something

[fast osprey]

What are you having trouble with?

[winter rain]

can you check the forum i just made

[tawny canyon]

what endpoint

[fast osprey]

there used to be a supported endpoint for bots to make guilds

[sly raven]

Hello

[untold hedge]

Hey

[timber dragon]

Bye

[unreal summit]

morning

Is someone considered a developer if they use AI to code ❔ 🤔

[obsidian void]

#agents-and-llms

channel made specifically to discuss that

[unreal summit]

oh lol

[stark ingot]

Is someone considered a chef if they only order takeout?

[timber dragon]

Mehh

[strong crescent]

jhkjh

[fading oracle]

Uh py don't allows emojies in footer right?

[slate swan]

get 200$ just to turn off websites

[stark bobcat]

Bro what

Mods

Ping

[stoic stream]

depends on the maintainer, no one can say for sure

[fast musk]

discord.js Danny credits to having implemented slash commands. But who knows about the maintainer

[slate swan]

@stark bobcat go ahead

[fast musk]

I'm sure they all talk and Danny taking the first step will lead to others

[stark bobcat]

Hmm

[stark bobcat]

Heck me

I gave u challange

[fast musk]

wtf is Heck?

[hardy yoke]

ok 4chan

[stark bobcat]

Hack

[slate swan]

discord js isn't handled by only one person

so probably not

[fast musk]

Oh, its Hack mispelled?

[stark bobcat]

Yep

A slang or smth

[fast musk]

ah. Ok. That totally doesn't make sense

[stoic stream]

i just hope discord dont end up removing access to message_content just for the sake of slash commands

[stark bobcat]

Sadness

[vale pendant]

But you can't make a simple help command?

[stark bobcat]

LMAO

Hahahahah

[trim barn]

so anyways, back to my question, how do I get my bot to do something at a specific time during a specific day

[vale pendant]

Seems like a skid to me.

[stark bobcat]

Yes

[fast musk]

Discord is either bound by some lind of regulation, or they are really trying to get ahead of the Privacy thing

either way, they aren't going to divert

If they do, I'll be shocked

[light night]

I know one guy who has already made his own discord.py fork awhile ago so yeah

[visual island]

true, regular commands extension is enough for me tbh

[trim barn]

i

[stark bobcat]

Won't discord do anything about discord.py?

[trim barn]

im guessing d,py will likely just become decentralized

[light night]

probaly not tbh

[fast musk]

No. We are a drop in the bucket my friend

[stark bobcat]

Oof

[light night]

but I am trying right now

[stark bobcat]

[light night]

to try to get as many as people as possible

to find a good fork or make one

[undone wyvern]

Why would they?

[vale pendant]

[forest vortex]

it wont be easy

[stark bobcat]

Cause discord bots are a big part of discord

[undone wyvern]

A big part of why discord.py is no longer going to be a thing is because discord didnt care about discord.py's dev

[forest vortex]

idk how much discord gets out of their bots

[undone wyvern]

Or any lib dev for that

[forest vortex]

true

[slate swan]

tinkering with JDA and serenity

not sure what i'm gonna go with

[boreal ravine]

jda is java right

[forest vortex]

idk why they are updated with java

[slate swan]

yes

[pliant gulch]

Serenity

[light night]

I know but we can do it, and that I will never give up on discord.py

[forest vortex]

good luck

[slate swan]

i'd much rather learn rust from 0 than use the small java knowledge i have

[pliant gulch]

Java lmao

[fast musk]

Join Elixir with me

or hell, Kotlin. hahahaha

[slate swan]

i'm not sure serenity is reliable regardless

[pliant gulch]

Learn rust def, very amazing documentation

[slate swan]

yeah i'm willing to learn rust

[pliant gulch]

Cargo is amazing as well

Very good at managing projects

[stoic stream]

idm learning kotlin 👀 planning to get into android dev anyways

[stark bobcat]

Prolly move on to discord.js

[forest vortex]

whats serenity?

[fast musk]

looks like a Rust framework

[pliant gulch]

Its a discord API wrapper made in rust

And iirc they have a commands extension as well

[prisma wedge]

      await message.channel.send('Pls stop')
   await client.process_commands(message)```

whats the correct indentation for this

[stoic stream]

this is overwriting the on_message event handler right

[forest vortex]

if message.content.startswith('no thanks'):
      await message.channel.send('Pls stop')
await client.process_commands(message)```

[forest vortex]

oh i see

the only thing i was good at was d.py 😂

[prisma wedge]

thanks

    await message.channel.send('Pls stop')
    ^
SyntaxError: 'await' outside function
 ```

error

[slate swan]

    @commands.Cog.listener()
    async def on_member_join(member):
      if '🔪' not in member.nick:
        member.nick=member.nick+'🔪'

i m getting an error

[light night]

well I wanted to see how discord.py was being talked about here, I am going to leave here now, but if someone is interesting in my search DM me

JDJG

[gilded kite]

Even their error and exception are very well designed

[forest vortex]

alrighty

damn this guy left

[vale pendant]

Is golang worth learning for discord bots?

[maiden fable]

Same

[forest vortex]

damn

btw whats golang even used for

[visual island]

soo... dpy will be gone forever?

[forest vortex]

sadly 😭

[steep estuary]

how to make restricted emojis :/

[forest vortex]

custom emojis

ig

or idk

[visual island]

what should i code now then

[forest vortex]

me too

same feeling

[pliant gulch]

discord.py is not gone, its just archived

[steep estuary]

not custom like any emoji which i don't want in my server if someone will use it my bot will delete it :/

[visual island]

it's... the same thing

[pliant gulch]

No its not?

Discord.py being gone would mean deleting the repo lmao

[visual island]

it won't be compatible with discord in the future right?

[pliant gulch]

In the future discord could drop support for api version

[forest vortex]

would be vunlerable for hack right?

[pliant gulch]

dropping support wouldn't mean you can't use it still

[steep estuary]

:/ any answer?

[forest vortex]

idk if its worth making bots again

[stoic stream]

yes, but give it a half a year or so and it will be as good as gone

[visual island]

true

[steep estuary]

like if someone use this 🍬 then my bot should delete it :/

[forest vortex]

so we just wait :/

[pliant gulch]

Wouldn't be suprised with how discord treats developers

[forest vortex]

i always thought discord would treat them good

[steep estuary]

(-_-)

[forest vortex]

ig add a if statement

[steep estuary]

but how i can specify the emoji :/

idk how to do that

[forest vortex]

: joy => 😂

so : candy => 🍬

[steep estuary]

:/

but it is not taking it like emoji

[forest vortex]

if :candy in msg.content:
msg.delete()

:candy:

[prisma wedge]

async def on_message(message):
   if message.content.startswith('no thanks'):
        await message.channel.send('Pls stop')
   await client.process_commands(message)```

[steep estuary]

if i will write :joy: it will take it like string only not like -> 😂

[prisma wedge]

someone tell me why this doesn't work

[forest vortex]

try it once

[forest vortex]

whats the error?

[steep estuary]

client.listen()

use this

[prisma wedge]

r u sure

[steep estuary]

try once :/

[prisma wedge]

still no

async def on_message(message):
    if message.content == "cookie":
        await message.channel.send("🍪")
    await client.process_commands(message)```

i have this command, which works

[prisma wedge]

no error

just doesnt work

[steep estuary]

wait

as my experience @client.event is global

change it to @client.listen()

[prisma wedge]

it works^^

[forest vortex]

@client.event
async def on_message(message):
    if message.content.find("cookie") != -1:
        await message.channel.send("🍪")
    await client.process_commands(message)```

try this

[steep estuary]

:/

i think this one is working?

[forest vortex]

which one ?

[steep estuary]

he told this one code is working

[steep estuary]

:/

[prisma wedge]

this one is working

i was giving an example

[steep estuary]

i think u should have @client.event only in on_ready()

[forest vortex]

what u want then ?

[steep estuary]

@prisma wedge try changing that to @client.listen() once :/

[prisma wedge]

i did

it works now

[steep estuary]

i also got same issue one time

[prisma wedge]

^^

[steep estuary]

:/

[prisma wedge]

lol

[steep estuary]

np

(:

oops

@bot.listen()
async def on_message(message):
    if ":joy:" in message.content.lower():
        await message.delete()
        await message.channel.send(f":exclamation: The Emoji you are using is Not Allowed, {message.author.mention}")
```not working :/

[prisma wedge]

error?

[prisma wedge]

u there

[steep estuary]

yes

[prisma wedge]

error?

[steep estuary]

no

[prisma wedge]

hm

[steep estuary]

i guess

it will take :joy:

not emoji

:/

[prisma wedge]

ok emoji isnt coming?

[steep estuary]

coming

[prisma wedge]

huh

[steep estuary]

that's why it is doing nothing

😂

it is not identifing this

[prisma wedge]

😂

copy and paate that

instead of joy

[steep estuary]

i think it will take this

if ":joy:" in message.content.lower():

[lament mesa]

So the project is dead?

[steep estuary]

there i wrote :joy:

[stoic stream]

why not u print message.content when u send a emoji

[visual island]

yeah

sadly

[stoic stream]

and see what is joy inside content

rather than guessing it

[lament mesa]

Rip

[visual island]

except if you rewrite the lib

[untold token]

I had so many memories with discord.py and it was truly something, RIP

[fickle turret]

[arctic vapor]

[hoary gust]

So dpy is going to end right?

[hoary yacht]

!d any

[unkempt canyon]

any

any(iterable)```
Return `True` if any element of the *iterable* is true. If the iterable is empty, return `False`. Equivalent to:

```py
def any(iterable):
    for element in iterable:
        if element:
            return True
    return False

[lament mesa]

Ig I'll have to write my own one like I did to sqlalchemy

[fickle turret]

I'll most probably try serenity again

[harsh orchid]

https://gist.github.com/Rapptz/4a2f62751b9600a31a0d3c78100287f1

hello wanted to know if this is true

[fickle turret]

Yes it is, sadly

[harsh orchid]

:(

[ocean dagger]

can someone pin it

[harsh orchid]

will this channel be deleted?

[fast musk]

no, this is a generic channel, believe it or not

[hoary gust]

I don't want dpy to be closed 😭😭

[maiden fable]

Yup

@lament mesa u making a discord lib in Python or something?

[hoary gust]

Well why does it close?

@maiden fable

[maiden fable]

https://gist.github.com/Rapptz/4a2f62751b9600a31a0d3c78100287f1

[hoary gust]

This ^

[signal forge]

yes

it's legit

not an elaborate prank

[oblique herald]

Hey guys im using the dagpi api , image filters but it aint working! ```py

Code:

@client.command()
async def pixel(ctx):
async with aiohttp.ClientSession() as cs:
headers={"Authorization": "mykey"}
async with cs.get(f'https://api.dagpi.xyz/image/pixel/?url={ctx.author.avatar_url}', headers=headers) as r:
res = io.BytesIO(r.read()) # returns dict
await ctx.send(res)
#Error:
raise CommandInvokeError(exc) from exc
discord.ext.commands.errors.CommandInvokeError: Command raised an exception: TypeError: a bytes-like object is required, not 'coroutine'

Ping me

[neat salmon]

Well... this is sad. Really sad. There goes my main project.

Hopefully Matrix has a library similar to Discord.py

[hoary gust]

We need discord.py back

[neat salmon]

This really just goes to show that Discord is really anti-consumer.

[hoary gust]

Wdym?

[maiden fable]

Same

[neat salmon]

By that I mean, yeah they have a popular service, but where will that go if they don't listen to their users or provide their users a good service?

We have to resort to using client mods to add features that have been demanded for a long time to Discord, which breaks the ToS, for example.

[oblique herald]

Can anyone help me pls

if possible

[crude skiff]

R.I.P

[oblique herald]

😭

[crude skiff]

discord.py is dead now

[oblique herald]

WDYM

[maiden fable]

Hey hey hey @neat salmon please don't talk about breaking ToS here

[crude skiff]

yes

[oblique herald]

SO THERE IS NO DPY ANYMORE?!

[maiden fable]

https://gist.github.com/Rapptz/4a2f62751b9600a31a0d3c78100287f1

[crude skiff]

there will be no updates

[maiden fable]

Except the 2.0 one

[neat salmon]

my goal wasn't to talk about breaking the tos, rather how users break it for completely moral reasons

[slate swan]

yall still sad bruh, yk you can always make your own wacky wrapper to fit your needs

[crude skiff]

which one can you show?

[neat salmon]

pretty much a lot of client mod users

[maiden fable]

Uhh, well even if I want to make one, I wont be able to

[slate swan]

why

[crystal kestrel]

discordpy and disco are both dead now?

[crude skiff]

coz we're beginners. 🙂

[crude skiff]

discord.py dead

[maiden fable]

Reason- There are many wrappers like snekcord and hikari which already have a good name in the community

[crystal kestrel]

hmm

[slate swan]

that doesnt respond to "i wont be able to make one" but i guess they will take dpys place

[oblique herald]

So there is no more dpy/

?

[slate swan]

i am moving to discord.cpp anyways ig

[maiden fable]

Indeed. I meant, I can't make one for the community or something

[slate swan]

or whatever that is called

[maiden fable]

Ah, good for u

[oblique herald]

will dpy still work

can we still use it

[crystal kestrel]

im also moving, maybe discordgo

[slate swan]

yea?

[crude skiff]

yes I have to say it from my bottom of my heart 😢

[lunar ridge]

yes

[oblique herald]

so can i still use

[slate swan]

good luck to yall

[oblique herald]

it

[maiden fable]

Till April next year, yes

[maiden fable]

Same to you!

[oblique herald]

what will happen to the bots

[crystal kestrel]

wdym

[maiden fable]

Message Intents will release by then

[oblique herald]

like if any bots which used to work on dpy

[crystal kestrel]

oh no
hek

[oblique herald]

will they stop working

after that time

[maiden fable]

Yup

[crude skiff]

then which wrapper or module should we use to make discord bots in python.

[maiden fable]

!pypi snekcord

!pypi hikari

[unkempt canyon]

hikari v2.0.0.dev100

A sane Discord API for Python 3 built on asyncio and good intentions

[oblique herald]

I WORKED FOR MONTHS ON MY DPY BOT 😭

[maiden fable]

Same

[crystal kestrel]

snekcord, but im not sure if its complete

[maiden fable]

Well I gotta do something of my AI API now

Idk what to use it for, now

[oblique herald]

was any very famous or verified bots made in dpy?

[crude skiff]

ME TOO 😿

[crystal kestrel]

carl-bot

[maiden fable]

Carl

[crude skiff]

covid-bot

[oblique herald]

and carl bot will stop working?

after april?

[crude skiff]

mayb

[crystal kestrel]

carl-bot is in 3.6m servers and is written in discord.py

[neat salmon]

I wouldn't exactly be surprised if it wouldn't work anymore.

[oblique herald]

😭

[maiden fable]

Nah, they will possibly move to another wrapper

[golden hamlet]

anyone got the link to hikari

[oblique herald]

THIS IS SO STUPID OF THEM 😭

well lets say we make it into a keep alive

[neat salmon]

https://pypi.org/project/hikari/

[oblique herald]

then will it work

even after

dpy stops?

[crude skiff]

hikari sucks

[crystal kestrel]

discord.py is maintained by 1 person and he isn't even a full-time programmer, he just works on discord.py in his free time

[lunar ridge]

yep

[neat salmon]

if i were you i'd probably just move on to matrix

it blows but.. it's the only idea i have in my mind

[oblique herald]

well we still have like 3/4 a year

or smth

imma use dpy

[light night]

well python's bot here will likely go down but

[blazing beacon]

!pypi matrix

[unkempt canyon]

matrix v2.0.1

Generic matrix generator.

[maiden fable]

It's a website

[oblique herald]

this is sad

[light night]

if python's guild here doesn't want to well to make a fork

[oblique herald]

😭

[maiden fable]

!pypi hikari

[unkempt canyon]

hikari v2.0.0.dev100

A sane Discord API for Python 3 built on asyncio and good intentions

[light night]

I will gladly make a project in order to make one

[crude skiff]

it sucks

[stark bobcat]

Where is the d.js server

[blazing beacon]

man they'd make thier own API wrapper those people are boss

[crystal kestrel]

now i gotta re-make my entire verified bot in another language

[crude skiff]

discord.py was even better than that

[oblique herald]

discord.gg/djs

[stark bobcat]

Thanks

[crude skiff]

lol

nice @oblique herald

[oblique herald]

WAIT

YOU HAVE A VERIFIED BOT?!

[crude skiff]

wtf

[light night]

if python's guild went through the work they could understand Danny's code and update it

[crude skiff]

do you?

[oblique herald]

no

[crystal kestrel]

yes...?

[oblique herald]

im still making it

[oblique herald]

whats it called

[light night]

I have one that uses discord.py as well with full intents lol

[oblique herald]

i will invite to my server

[oblique herald]

really?!

[blazing beacon]

yussssss python community is strong asf

[crude skiff]

I don't how to verify my one tho

[light night]

yes

[oblique herald]

you guys are LEGENDS!

[light night]

I feel like the fact I help my own communtity of programmers with discord's api

is more impresssive lol

[maiden fable]

Aw, well what's the bot about?

[golden hamlet]

how often does d.py api update

[oblique herald]

WOag

[crystal kestrel]

it used to be for simple utilities since i was lazy to manage and create a bunch of roles for my server but now its multi-purpose

[crude skiff]

someone discord.py from Rapptz and update it please 😢

[crystal kestrel]

hopefully someone takes over discord.py

[maiden fable]

Ah, well if you want, I can help u convert it from discord.py to hikari or something? (I code in my free time so don't be dependent on me or something)

[crude skiff]

I want too bro or sis

[crisp meadow]

verified bots are bae 😄

[light night]

well Dutchy has enchanced disocrd.py fork

[crystal kestrel]

i might re-make it in another language if discord.py has no activity in the next few weeks

[light night]

but if i need to, I will fork discord.py

and learn it

[oblique herald]

Ok well imma make the most of dpy

[crude skiff]

WHO?

[visual island]

there will be someone

[oblique herald]

OMG , NO WAY

[oblique herald]

UR A VERIFIED BOT DEVELOPER!!!!!!

[visual island]

chill

[oblique herald]

[maiden fable]

Hi Kylee

Again pulling an all nighter?

[visual island]

hi

nah, btw

[maiden fable]

Hm?

[crude skiff]

can someone take the ownership of discord.py

[visual island]

does sending an ephemeral message counts as 1 API call?

[light night]

try this:
https://github.com/iDutchy/discord.py

[maiden fable]

It should

[oblique herald]

can u?

[light night]

unforatetnly only danny can but someone can make a good fork

[golden hamlet]

does anyone know

[maiden fable]

Kylee is a master code and he can fork and maintain it :D

[light night]

if this person is willing

and knows what they are doing

I will gladly check it out if they do something(anyway I am going to check out my programming guild)

[oblique herald]

what abt one of the owner

owners of py

[crystal kestrel]

py or discord.py

[oblique herald]

py

[crude skiff]

transfer the ownership

[light night]

🤔 the owners of the python guild hopefully will think about it

[oblique herald]

like they would know how to handle it very well right

[maiden fable]

@visual island u r in demand

[light night]

danny is unlike to

[maiden fable]

No 🤦

[crude skiff]

someone ping them

[maiden fable]

No don't

[light night]

why did you ping them? tha's not a good idea

[oblique herald]

[maiden fable]

Cz he didn't see the message

[light night]

:sigh: I hope they don't blame me for the ping

[crystal kestrel]

sad

[oblique herald]

[maiden fable]

Nah

[oblique herald]

lol

i got banned from dpy

[visual island]

I hate u

[crystal kestrel]

lol

[maiden fable]

I love you (:

[crude skiff]

got burned @maiden fable

[maiden fable]

No

He just doesn't wanna accept it

[slate swan]

@bot.command()
@commands.is_nsfw()
async def anal(ctx):
   async with aiohttp.ClientSession() as session:
      request = await session.get('https://nekos.life/api/v2/img/anal')
      anal = await request.json()
   embed = discord.Embed(color=0xf6dbd8)
   embed.set_image(url=anal['url'])
   await ctx.send(embed=embed)
   else:
       await ctx.reply("`Critical Error` - Channel Is Not Marked As `NSFW`")``` im getting an indentation error at "else", i know its simple and basic, but i cant figure it out

[maiden fable]

Anyways, @visual island what do u think u r gonna do now tho? Switch to another lib?

[hollow agate]

@bot.command()
@commands.is_nsfw()
async def anal(ctx):
  try:
     async with aiohttp.ClientSession() as session:
        request = await   session.get('https://nekos.life/api/v2/img/anal')
        anal = await request.json()
     embed = discord.Embed(color=0xf6dbd8)
     embed.set_image(url=anal['url'])
     await ctx.send(embed=embed)
   except:
       await ctx.reply("`Critical Error` - Channel Is Not Marked As `NSFW`")``` Try that

[visual island]

yeah js

[slate swan]

thanks

[crude skiff]

anyways how to pick a random element from json list?

[maiden fable]

Ah, so u gonna use d.js now?

[slate swan]

except:
^
IndentationError: unindent does not match any outer indentation level

[crystal kestrel]

random.choice(list)?

[hollow agate]

Hm one esc

[maiden fable]

empty except

[crude skiff]

yeah ofc ethen what to do?

[crude skiff]

code please?

[hollow agate]

@bot.command()
@commands.is_nsfw()
async def anal(ctx):
  try:
    async with aiohttp.ClientSession() as session:
    request = await   session.get('https://nekos.life/api/v2/img/anal')
     anal = await request.json()
    embed = discord.Embed(color=0xf6dbd8)
    embed.set_image(url=anal['url'])
    await ctx.send(embed=embed)
  except:
    await ctx.reply("`Critical Error` - Channel Is Not Marked As `NSFW`")```

[maiden fable]

Eh, well it that's the case, I can always use hikari or something

[visual island]

yeah

[slate swan]

request = await session.get('https://nekos.life/api/v2/img/anal')
^
IndentationError: expected an indented block

[crystal kestrel]

import random
array = ["hello", "world", "ok"]
randomItem = random.choice(array)

[hollow agate]

ufhaopwjfkapl kill me I'm using a code editor one sec xd

[lament mesa]

Isn't it sent through the web socket

[crystal kestrel]

not sure if thats what u want

[hollow agate]

@bot.command()
@commands.is_nsfw()
async def anal(ctx):
  try:
    async with aiohttp.ClientSession() as session:
    request = await   session.get('https://nekos.life/api/v2/img/anal')
    anal = await request.json()
    embed = discord.Embed(color=0xf6dbd8)
    embed.set_image(url=anal['url'])
    await ctx.send(embed=embed)
  except:
    await ctx.reply("`Critical Error` - Channel Is Not Marked As `NSFW`")``` This must work, I swear...

[crude skiff]

from json list dude

[maiden fable]

Bro, u gotta do that yourself

[slate swan]

request = await session.get('https://nekos.life/api/v2/img/anal')
^
IndentationError: expected an indented block

[maiden fable]

He just gave u a raw example

[hollow agate]

Bruv what

[maiden fable]

!d json.load use this

[crystal kestrel]

w d y m "json list"

[unkempt canyon]

json.load

json.load(fp, *, cls=None, object_hook=None, parse_float=None, parse_int=None, parse_constant=None, object_pairs_hook=None, **kw)```
Deserialize *fp* (a `.read()`-supporting [text file](https://docs.python.org/3.10/glossary.html#term-text-file) or [binary file](https://docs.python.org/3.10/glossary.html#term-binary-file) containing a JSON document) to a Python object using this [conversion table](https://docs.python.org/3.10/library/json.html#json-to-py-table).

*object\_hook* is an optional function that will be called with the result of any object literal decoded (a [`dict`](https://docs.python.org/3.10/library/stdtypes.html#dict "dict")). The return value of *object\_hook* will be used instead of the [`dict`](https://docs.python.org/3.10/library/stdtypes.html#dict "dict"). This feature can be used to implement custom decoders (e.g. [JSON-RPC](http://www.jsonrpc.org) class hinting).

*object\_pairs\_hook* is an optional function that will be called with the result of any object literal decoded with an ordered list of pairs. The return value of *object\_pairs\_hook* will be used instead of the [`dict`](https://docs.python.org/3.10/library/stdtypes.html#dict "dict"). This feature can be used to implement custom decoders. If *object\_hook* is also defined, the *object\_pairs\_hook* takes priority.

[hollow agate]

oh

[visual island]

hbu?

[hollow agate]

@bot.command()
@commands.is_nsfw()
async def anal(ctx):
  try:
    async with aiohttp.ClientSession() as session:
      request = await   session.get('https://nekos.life/api/v2/img/anal')
      anal = await request.json()
      embed = discord.Embed(color=0xf6dbd8)
      embed.set_image(url=anal['url'])
      await ctx.send(embed=embed)
  except:
    await ctx.reply("`Critical Error` - Channel Is Not Marked As `NSFW`")``` Didn't see the : on line 5

[slate swan]

no errors, works, ty lol

[hollow agate]

xd np, sorry that took a while... I'm just stupid

[maiden fable]

Eh, idk. I still gotta think about what to do of my AI Bot (most probably I'mma shut it down)... And I'mma just find some other python libs to master... I got a friend who does various random projects for real life people and I can just help him finish/code them

[visual island]

btw, wanna make our own lib?

[maiden fable]

And thinking of opening the AI API to everyone

[maiden fable]

Sure. But I don't really know the whole thing, just parts of it (but I would love doing that)

[pliant gulch]

I was planning on making my own as well

[maiden fable]

Ah, cool

[visual island]

ah, i'll contribute there for sure

[maiden fable]

Well I gotta see how cool down and stuff work, read discord docs and stuff

[pliant gulch]

cooldowns aren't a part of the API

[maiden fable]

Ah

[pliant gulch]

that was all done on discord.py's end

[maiden fable]

Oh

Hmm, gotta see how they implemented it

The API Part should be easy

Send requests using aiohttp and read the response

[visual island]

it's just seeing the last message sent by a specific bucketType in the cache then compare it to datetime.now() i believe

[maiden fable]

Hmm yea

Well, let's see what happens

[pliant gulch]

I don't know if I should just create a new wrapper since I don't really like how cluttered discord.py internals are

Or if I should just keep editting my fork

either way I don't think it would need immediate action

[visual island]

you can, but surely took a long work

[maiden fable]

Hmm

[pliant gulch]

Well, I do have some sort of base as I have a private wrapper I made for testing

[visual island]

nice

btw @pliant gulch when will your wrapper be public?

[maiden fable]

Since discord.py is gone, I can bet this channel would be dead most of the time, like other channels (cz mostly everyone used it and I don't think anyone would want to switch over to any other wrapper)

[forest vortex]

ded channel

[pliant gulch]

The private one I made was only for testing

[forest vortex]

damn u made a wrapper ! awesome

[visual island]

make it public

[outer flint]

So, have people talked about this and what does it mean for bots?

https://gist.github.com/Rapptz/4a2f62751b9600a31a0d3c78100287f1

[forest vortex]

no updates will come

[maiden fable]

Either switch over or kill your bot

[light night]

the discord.py library will be gone, but a fork could save old bot code in discord.py

[final iron]

Hopefully someone picks up the code

[maiden fable]

Yes

[final iron]

Isn't discord.js now the only way to code your bot?

[forest vortex]

there jda php

[maiden fable]

But tbh, the discord.py was is a huge part of my life and that's the place from where I learnt Python from the very start

[forest vortex]

more

[maiden fable]

!pypi hikari also

[unkempt canyon]

hikari v2.0.0.dev100

A sane Discord API for Python 3 built on asyncio and good intentions

[forest vortex]

same

[maiden fable]

snekcord also

[forest vortex]

i will miss d.py

[visual island]

i agree

[final iron]

Everyone will

[slate swan]

There's C and Rust too

[forest vortex]

damn i thought discord was good

[final iron]

Aren't those all tiny though

[slate swan]

Doubt if anyone will a fully switch

[forest vortex]

idk if this will reduce discord's popularity

[slate swan]

Yeah not big communities

[final iron]

It's gonna kill a lot of bots

[slate swan]

Userbase? No
Programmer base? Yes

[fickle turret]

Bot devs specifically

[forest vortex]

yes

[visual island]

userbase, yes

cause not everyone likes slash command

[forest vortex]

userbase also because they use bot

and if most bots are gone

[outer flint]

This... I just learnt how to use the Discord.py for my both :T

[forest vortex]

discord - ded

[maiden fable]

I have experienced that... My brother (he's 11) joined discord and I wrote a complaint to discord regarding that... But, the response from discord was This isn't the correct complaint topic to report here. please submit a complaint again after changing the category of the complaint

[forest vortex]

crap

[maiden fable]

Happened around last October or something

[visual island]

lol sadness

[slate swan]

I mean, large bot devs will most probably port to d.js or something so that they're not affected, to the unsuspecting average Discord user this isn't even a big change

[maiden fable]

Yes

The biggest blow is dealt to small bot devs

[slate swan]

^

[maiden fable]

Like me

[true slate]

its much easier to collectively fork d.py than port huge codebases to another library in another language

[maiden fable]

Cz I don't have the time, resources to port to another language also I don't get anything from rewriting my bot as I do it for fun only

[forest vortex]

alright i have exam rn

[maiden fable]

Best of Luck!

[outer flint]

Or me
Although my bot is used in like 2/3 servers of 5k+ people, but still I'm alone and don't have time xD

[slate swan]

Yeah true

[maiden fable]

Same

[forest vortex]

thanks :)

[slate swan]

My friend has a bot that's used in like 1k servers it's going to be a huge blow for him

[outer flint]

So... We should all start preparing and moving over to d.js?

[maiden fable]

Yup sad for him

[slate swan]

He's been hosting it for two years now

[fickle turret]

djs isn't the only option

[maiden fable]

Eh, idk. Message Intents is also a problem

[heavy folio]

could i still ask for help for dpy bots tho

[maiden fable]

Sure

[fickle turret]

yes, why not

[outer flint]

What's the option that won't be killed tomorrow? XD

[maiden fable]

Till April 2022, dpy would work

[final iron]

Oh nice

[slate swan]

d.js if you wanna be safe

[true slate]

d.js has its quirks

[heavy folio]

    try:
      if channel == ctx.channel:
        await ctx.message.delete()
        await ctx.send(embed=main_embed)
      else:
        await ctx.reply(embed=main_embed)
    except ctx.subcommand_passed:
      error_embed = discord.Embed(title="Command Error!", description="The subcommand you requested for does not exist!")
      message = await ctx.reply(embed=error_embed)
      await asyncio.sleep(1)
      await ctx.message.delete()
      await message.delete()
      return
```so i have this but it doesnt work. no errors logged.

[maiden fable]

That's not how u do a try except

[heavy folio]

what i want is when the subcommand doesnt exist, it sends error_embed

[maiden fable]

U need an error in except

[slate swan]

True, but that's the only viable option rn?

[heavy folio]

i tried if and else but it doesnt work then someone told me to use try and except

oh

[visual island]

rip 8k+ lines :)

[true slate]

look at the list of libraries discord gives on their documentation

[maiden fable]

Hikari, Snekcord

[true slate]

theres lots of trusted ones

that made it onto the docs

[maiden fable]

Yea true. I also have a ton of discord.py bot files (different bots) and now, they all are a waste (great)

[waxen granite]

Is there an on_command_error for NoneType?

[maiden fable]

Sure

In the error, pass None

if isinstance(error, NoneType):

[waxen granite]

Cool

[visual island]

if error is None

[maiden fable]

told ya u, r the pro

[waxen granite]

Are they removing py from discord api or something?

[shrewd barn]

How to get content of an embed?

[fickle turret]

.to_dict()

[slate swan]

What're you going to do now, I've seen you here often and you seem like you're always putting in a lot of work

[true slate]

no, its a third party library anyways, theres lots of other python libraries out there

[waxen granite]

Well its the one that connects discord bots no?

[floral fulcrum]

Discord.py is dead :((

[maiden fable]

Well, yea. Discord.py was the motivation I learnt Python and stuff. For now, I will be thinking to either delete my bot or rewrite it (I am more inclined towards deleting), and just making my AI API open to everyone so that anyone can use it. As for the future, I am thinking to either learn a new library in Python itself, or just help my friend who codes many different random projects

[slate swan]

Is there any idea of switching to a whole another language

[true slate]

no i meanr python discord libraries

[heavy folio]

@maiden fable

[maiden fable]

Nope, not for now. I want to master Python cz it has been the best thing that has happened to me in my life. This community has given me soo much, has inspired me too much, and I can't leave it just cz discord.py got shut. I just want to learn more of it and new libs in it (:

[slate swan]

Bruh I was literally so motivated to work on my bot

?I vqjwvv??1!?

stupid discord

[maiden fable]

Yup

[floral fulcrum]

I hope someone will try to maintain the Library

But I don't think it will happen :(

[fickle turret]

they can't, it's archived now

[heavy folio]

same

[floral fulcrum]

Fork

[true slate]

danny explicitly said there will be no maintainer

best one can do is fork

[floral fulcrum]

Ik

[true slate]

but there will be lots of forks

[slate swan]

Yea

[floral fulcrum]

Yeah

[fickle turret]

It would be a different Library then tho

[maiden fable]

Breh, the messages ain't editing

[true slate]

depends on how many old stuff the fork owner changes

[maiden fable]

@slate swan what about u tho?

[slate swan]

That's truly awesome don't lose hope <3

[fickle turret]

My bot reached over 75 guilds, turned out around 40 of them were bot farms, i had to remove it from all of them, it was just recovering but meh

[heavy folio]

wait how do u remove a bot from a server?

[maiden fable]

Indeed

[heavy folio]

also how did u know they were bot farms

[fickle turret]

Bot.leave_guild, i forgot what was it

[maiden fable]

U gotta use an eval

[maiden fable]

More bots, less people (:

[maiden fable]

!d discord.Guild.leave

[unkempt canyon]

discord.Guild.leave

await leave()```
This function is a [*coroutine*](https://docs.python.org/3/library/asyncio-task.html#coroutine).

Leaves the guild.

Note

You cannot leave the guild that you own, you must delete it instead via [`delete()`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/stable/api.html#discord.Guild.delete "discord.Guild.delete").

[slate swan]

Uhm I didn't have much to lose tbh, I've been hosting my bot for only 6 or so months and it's only been in like 100 servers

[fickle turret]

Oh yeah

[heavy folio]

oh

also is it possible for a bot to own a server?

oh

[floral fulcrum]

Yes

[maiden fable]

Dang, my AI Chatbot is in 55 but I think I'mma delete it

[maiden fable]

!d discord.Guild.create

[fickle turret]

wait nvm you can transfer ownership, yeah

[heavy folio]

yea

[slate swan]

I coded this bot to learn Python and now I know a decent bit so I think I'll just switch to a more advanced langauge because I'll be needing it for uni

[maiden fable]

!d discord.ext.commands.Bot.create_guild

[unkempt canyon]

discord.ext.commands.Bot.create\_guild

await create_guild(name, region=None, icon=None, *, code=None)```
This function is a [*coroutine*](https://docs.python.org/3/library/asyncio-task.html#coroutine).

Creates a [`Guild`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/stable/api.html#discord.Guild "discord.Guild").

Bot accounts in more than 10 guilds are not allowed to create guilds.

[maiden fable]

There

[heavy folio]

oh

[fickle turret]

Bots can create guilds? W h a t

[maiden fable]

Ah cool. Best of luck!

[slate swan]

Trust me, as a person who dove a bit into AI, I have mad respect for you 😭

[maiden fable]

Bots in less than 10 guilds

[fickle turret]

Oh

[slate swan]

Thanks Hunter and you too ♥️

[fickle turret]

Everytime i feel like i have learnt enough something new comes up

[maiden fable]

Haha I can always allow u access to the API if u want :D

Breh my net :c

[maiden fable]

Thanks :D

[slate swan]

I eventually ended up dropping the whole project for another topic :c

[dire panther]

hey, is it possible to add another tag to this string for "link in soup.find_all('a'):"

[slate swan]

Neural networking was really tough and I didn't have the time to

[fickle turret]

i built a chatbot using pytorch but i have no idea wtf is going on

[maiden fable]

Ah I know that. U lose motivation, u drop that project. It has happened with me 316461949404 times (that's totally not a random number)

[fickle turret]

the api is public but without rate limiting, surprisingly no one DDOSed it yet

[maiden fable]

Hmm, I used AIML (u can search it up, it's sort of pattern matchmaking)

I got about 65k AIML lines of code for the AI

[floral fulcrum]

Wow

[maiden fable]

Yea but it's all a waste cz I can't think of something to do with it

It's a general chatbot (it can also remember name, age and stuff)

[visual island]

it didnt remembered my birthday

[maiden fable]

But it did remember yr name

Never said it can remember your birthday haha. I had to add it in a few days, but no use now

And u also made it say things against me

[visual island]

lol

[slate swan]

Phew I can't even imagine how manu hours you spent coding

[maiden fable]

Uhh, I started coding just like in September-end last year

So not even one year since I have been coding

[slate swan]

The fact that Discord doesn't even acknowledge this just shows peak arrogance

[maiden fable]

Yes

[slate swan]

Yet you've managed to do so much

[maiden fable]

Eh, I haven't done so much. Just some basic projects

[slate swan]

"Just some basic projects"
Proceeds to create an AI API

[maiden fable]

As I said it's just pattern matching. Also, I lose interest/inspiration very easily

[slate swan]

I mean when there's no obvious reward it's natural

The teeny euphoria you get when your code runs is all that you can live for

[maiden fable]

Yup haha

I was too excited when I made my first bot with discord.py . It was my first day and I used discord.Client and on_message (the example in the docs). I just removed one line if message.author == client.user: return and the bot replied to itself. 😂🤣 I was so fucking happy that I know how to code now

So yea discord.py has given me too much haha

[pliant gulch]

I get euphoria when pyright doesn't scream at me

[heavy folio]

  if not link.startswith("https://discord.com/channels/") or not link.startswith("http://discord.com/channels/"):
    http_embed = discord.Embed(title="Command Error!", description="your link needs to begin with `https://discord.com/channels/` or `http://discord.com/channels`!")
    await ctx.reply(embed=http_embed)
```this `link.startswith` caused an error

[fickle turret]

what is link?

[final iron]

What are some beginner commands to add to my discord bot to help me learn

[heavy folio]

an arg

[fickle turret]

ban, kick, meme, rank, user info, server info etc

[heavy folio]

@client.command(aliases=['jtl', 'jumplink', 'jump', 'j'])
async def jumptolink(ctx, link=None, *, message = None):

[fickle turret]

you sure you are passing the arg?