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woven grotto Nov 7, 2021, 4:14 AM

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but, how would I figure out how many values I need before it could possibly have a solution using oeis?

mortal hull Nov 7, 2021, 4:14 AM

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this doesn't seem that hard. just get some more values then plug it into a calculator

woven grotto Nov 7, 2021, 4:15 AM

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I suppose

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I'll go up to 16 values total, as avery suggested

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and use said data to hopefully find the pattern

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actually I might have a prediction to the pattern of when it changes

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so, the first time, it changed immediately, and kept that pattern twice, then the next time, it did it for 4 times, and I have the prediction it will do the next one for 8

thick widget Nov 7, 2021, 4:17 AM

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woven grotto Nov 7, 2021, 4:17 AM

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so if I could figure out how to reword that into a equation it's quite simple in that regard

mortal hull Nov 7, 2021, 4:17 AM

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yes, we pointed that out

woven grotto Nov 7, 2021, 4:18 AM

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Yea I'm just sayin I now actually notice it

thick widget Nov 7, 2021, 4:18 AM

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xithrius playing chad game

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 4:22 AM

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meow

teal storm Nov 7, 2021, 4:28 AM

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ok so basically, my suspicion is that your sequence looks like this, for some constants c and k @woven grotto

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 4:28 AM

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log2n hiding under the table lemon_pensive

teal storm Nov 7, 2021, 4:28 AM

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so true

woven grotto Nov 7, 2021, 4:30 AM

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Update.

1 : 1065353216
        > +8388608
2 : 1073741824
        > +4194304
3 : 1077936128
        > +4194304
4 : 1082130432
        > +2097152
5 : 1084227584
        > +2097152
6 : 1086324736
        > +2097152
7 : 1088421888
        > +2097152
8 : 1090519040
        > +1048576
9 : 1091567616
        > +1048576
10 : 1092616192
        > +1048576
11 : 1093664768
        > +1048576
12 : 1094713344
        > +1048576
13 : 1095761920
        > +1048576
14 : 1096810496
        > +1048576
15 : 1097859072
        > +1048576
16 : 1098907648
        > +524288
17 : 1099431936```

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So, as you can see, the values do have a pattern in which they begin a change

teal storm Nov 7, 2021, 4:31 AM

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yeah im definitely right in that case

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without a shadow of a doubtt

woven grotto Nov 7, 2021, 4:31 AM

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I think you are too

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so, in that case, the equation is just
a*sub(1)* = c? or is it something else

teal storm Nov 7, 2021, 4:32 AM

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obviously c = 1,065,353,216 and k = 8,388,608

woven grotto Nov 7, 2021, 4:32 AM

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I see.

teal storm Nov 7, 2021, 4:32 AM

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woven grotto so, in that case, the equation is just `a*sub(1)* = c`? or is it something else

there is no equation

woven grotto Nov 7, 2021, 4:32 AM

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wdym..

sick olive Nov 7, 2021, 4:32 AM

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achoo

teal storm Nov 7, 2021, 4:32 AM

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it's defined by the two equations i already sent as images

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in other words, (brb)

woven grotto Nov 7, 2021, 4:33 AM

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alright lol

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Both

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Iirc

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Actually, probably percentage grades

viral hull Nov 7, 2021, 4:40 AM

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no, it's only letter dependent

woven grotto Nov 7, 2021, 4:40 AM

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oh, mb

viral hull Nov 7, 2021, 4:41 AM

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well, letter and plus or minus

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an A- is worth less to your GPA than an A, but all As are the same, regardless of percentage grade

short oyster Nov 7, 2021, 4:41 AM

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84 vs 85 would still be a "B" grade and result in the same GPA

teal storm Nov 7, 2021, 4:42 AM

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@woven grotto

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if i am right, which im pretty sure i am

woven grotto Nov 7, 2021, 4:42 AM

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teal storm <@801576013183975464>

I've no idea what log to the subscript of 2 * n is

teal storm Nov 7, 2021, 4:42 AM

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log base 2 of n

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only the 2 is subscript

woven grotto Nov 7, 2021, 4:42 AM

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I just don't know log in general

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haven't gone over it yet 😩

teal storm Nov 7, 2021, 4:43 AM

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woven grotto I just don't know log in general

log base n of x -> n to the power of what = x

woven grotto Nov 7, 2021, 4:43 AM

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teal storm log base n of x -> n to the power of what = x

ah

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 4:43 AM

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You've never seen "A+"?

solid prawn Nov 7, 2021, 4:43 AM

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isnt it 2^floor(log n)

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in the denominator

teal storm Nov 7, 2021, 4:43 AM

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solid prawn isnt it 2^floor(log n)

yes

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 4:43 AM

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huh. can't relate

viral hull Nov 7, 2021, 4:43 AM

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weird.

teal storm Nov 7, 2021, 4:44 AM

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that's the bit i couldn't figure out how to write correctly, im doing it all in my head and using discord on mobile to get the tex render so there's a fair bit of error margin 😅

solid prawn Nov 7, 2021, 4:46 AM

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wonder if you can write the main sequence as an explicit function of n

teal storm Nov 7, 2021, 4:46 AM

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here's the corrected version

solid prawn Nov 7, 2021, 4:46 AM

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lgtm

woven grotto Nov 7, 2021, 4:48 AM

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just a question that I know is prob not correct but I gotta make sure, couldn't I use f(x) = x^2

teal storm Nov 7, 2021, 4:48 AM

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no

woven grotto Nov 7, 2021, 4:48 AM

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didn't think so but, worth the shot

solid prawn Nov 7, 2021, 4:48 AM

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it involves powers of 2 so you can guess that its going to have exponents/logs

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as in, variable powers with a constant base

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whereas polynomials like x^2 have a variable base and constant powers

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 4:51 AM

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tbh am I weird for wishing this was a thing:

In [1]: for (i := i * 2) in range(2):
   ...:     i

teal storm Nov 7, 2021, 4:51 AM

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solid prawn wonder if you can write the main sequence as an explicit function of n

sequence 1 = 1065353216
sequence n = sequence (n - 1) + 8388608 / floor (log 2 n)

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catcool

solid prawn Nov 7, 2021, 4:51 AM

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.-.

viral hull Nov 7, 2021, 4:52 AM

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oak hemlock tbh am I weird for wishing this was a thing: ```py In [1]: for (i := i * 2) in r...

as opposed to ```py
for i in range(2):
i = i * 2
...

teal storm Nov 7, 2021, 4:53 AM

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what's the definition of γ again?

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 4:53 AM

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idk lol

solid prawn Nov 7, 2021, 4:53 AM

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In [5]: for i in map(2 .__mul__, range(4)):
   ...:     print(i)
   ...:
0
2
4
6

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:catcool:

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 4:53 AM

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viral hull as opposed to ```py for i in range(2): i = i * 2 ... ``` ?

I mean kinda yes but now that I think about it, it's kinda weird

teal storm Nov 7, 2021, 4:53 AM

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no, Γ

obsidian wave Nov 7, 2021, 4:54 AM

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Hi I joined the math discord to ask this question but I have to wait 10 minutes but are the medians of a right triangle parallel to the sides?

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 4:54 AM

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solid prawn ```py In [5]: for i in map(2 .__mul__, range(4)): ...: print(i) ...: 0...

y'know I've never thought about doing weird stuff like how you did 2.__mul__

solid prawn Nov 7, 2021, 4:54 AM

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you mean the definition in terms of the integral or the relation with factorial

obsidian wave Nov 7, 2021, 4:54 AM

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discord.gg/math

neat sparrow Nov 7, 2021, 4:54 AM

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!eval

for i in map(2.__sum__, range(10)): print(i)

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 4:54 AM

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oh that's why you added the space

neat sparrow Nov 7, 2021, 4:54 AM

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I gotta learn the dunder methods

teal storm Nov 7, 2021, 4:54 AM

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oak hemlock tbh am I weird for wishing this was a thing: ```py In [1]: for (i := i * 2) in r...

[ i*2 | i <- [0..1] ]

solid prawn Nov 7, 2021, 4:55 AM

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obsidian wave Hi I joined the math discord to ask this question but I have to wait 10 minutes ...

no

teal storm Nov 7, 2021, 4:55 AM

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catcool

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 4:55 AM

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:faint:

obsidian wave Nov 7, 2021, 4:55 AM

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solid prawn no

wait rlly?

solid prawn Nov 7, 2021, 4:55 AM

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how could it be parallel

obsidian wave Nov 7, 2021, 4:55 AM

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u sure?

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solid prawn Nov 7, 2021, 4:55 AM

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the side and the median are starting at the same point

obsidian wave Nov 7, 2021, 4:55 AM

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solid prawn how could it be parallel

https://www.google.com/search?q=medial+right+triangle&oq=medial+right+triangle&aqs=chrome.0.69i59.3037j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

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no no, with the other side that it doesnt touch

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sorry if i wasnt clear

fathom yew Nov 7, 2021, 4:55 AM

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whenever I plug in my usb drive, my pc asks me to format it to be able to use it. I don't want to format it. is there any way to stop the dialog boxes from appearing?

teal storm Nov 7, 2021, 4:55 AM

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oak hemlock y'know I've never thought about doing weird stuff like how you did `2.__mul__`

see in haskell it's just (2 *) or, if you prefer, (* 2)

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 4:56 AM

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teal storm see in haskell it's just `(2 *)` or, if you prefer, `(* 2)`

is that some form of like partial function?

obsidian wave Nov 7, 2021, 4:56 AM

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hmm it appears that the medians are parallel for any triangle

neat sparrow Nov 7, 2021, 4:56 AM

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You need two right angles for sides to be parallel in a shape

obsidian wave Nov 7, 2021, 4:56 AM

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wait no those arent medians what am i doing

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🤦

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nvm sorry for the dumb question

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cant talk

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teal storm Nov 7, 2021, 4:57 AM

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solid prawn you mean the definition in terms of the integral or the relation with factorial

i quite literally mean "how is it defined" cuz i'm not sure i ever actually knew

teal storm Nov 7, 2021, 4:57 AM

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oak hemlock is that some form of like partial function?

yes

obsidian wave Nov 7, 2021, 4:57 AM

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obsidian wave cant talk

r u on phone

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its alr i can wait for 5 more min

solid prawn Nov 7, 2021, 4:57 AM

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obsidian wave https://www.google.com/search?q=medial+right+triangle&oq=medial+right+triangle&a...

well
the medians cant be parallel to the sides
those lines are joining the midpoints of two sides, a median joins a vertex with the midpoint of the other side

obsidian wave Nov 7, 2021, 4:58 AM

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oh that might be the reason why, i think the server has that set up for bots but its much easier to run bots on computer than phone

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i dont have a phone so idk

obsidian wave Nov 7, 2021, 4:58 AM

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solid prawn well the medians cant be parallel to the sides those lines are joining the midpo...

yeah sorry i forgot what a median was 🤦

teal storm Nov 7, 2021, 4:58 AM

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teal storm yes

although "partial function application" is really a misnomer, as it is being fully applied, it's just a function that returns a function

obsidian wave Nov 7, 2021, 4:58 AM

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i mean discord probably can

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ig so, doesnt matter much 🤷

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thanks for the help tho

solid prawn Nov 7, 2021, 4:59 AM

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teal storm i quite literally mean "how is it defined" cuz i'm not sure i ever actually knew

gamma(x) is the integral of u^x e^u du from 0 to infinity iirc

teal storm Nov 7, 2021, 4:59 AM

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a * b = \a -> \b -> a * b
```ignore the cyclical definition

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 4:59 AM

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oops I read that as "gamer(x)"

solid prawn Nov 7, 2021, 5:00 AM

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O its u^(x-1)

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teal storm Nov 7, 2021, 5:00 AM

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in python,

times = lambda a: lambda b: a * b

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so it's not being partially applied at all, it's in fact being fully applied

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it's a function that takes in a number "a" and returns (a function that takes in a number "b" and returns "a × b")

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although technically that's only in the case of (2 *)

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in (* 2), it's more like (flip (*)) 2

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where

flip f a b = f b a

solid prawn Nov 7, 2021, 5:02 AM

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@obsidian wave its not just right angled triangles, its all triangles
the line joining the midpoint of two sides is always parallel to the third side
(midpoint theorem)

teal storm Nov 7, 2021, 5:02 AM

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aka

flip = lambda f: lambda a: lambda b: f(b)(a)

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gn

quasi cape Nov 7, 2021, 5:03 AM

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solid prawn Nov 7, 2021, 5:03 AM

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gn

stone gyro Nov 7, 2021, 5:04 AM

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solid prawn

yeah, and yet for integer z it's equal to (z-1)!. Why? Historical reasons. 😩

solid prawn Nov 7, 2021, 5:04 AM

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sad

obsidian wave Nov 7, 2021, 5:04 AM

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solid prawn <@!810256089626837012> its not just right angled triangles, its all triangles th...

ty

solid prawn Nov 7, 2021, 5:04 AM

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historical reasons more like peer pressure from dead people

obsidian wave Nov 7, 2021, 5:05 AM

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bro i was so productive today i finished 1 wk worth of hw

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11 more weeks to go 😬

solid prawn Nov 7, 2021, 5:05 AM

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damn

stone gyro Nov 7, 2021, 5:05 AM

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historical reasons more like unofficial copyright laws

obsidian wave Nov 7, 2021, 5:05 AM

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wait actually 10 more

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this is literally the progress for my class
gray r for future classes

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teal storm Nov 7, 2021, 5:06 AM

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solid prawn

wh-whats z?

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does it even matter

solid prawn Nov 7, 2021, 5:06 AM

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the function parameter

teal storm Nov 7, 2021, 5:06 AM

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oh

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jsjdbs

obsidian wave Nov 7, 2021, 5:06 AM

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hsp r u in college or smth that looks hard

teal storm Nov 7, 2021, 5:07 AM

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calculus is taught in HS

stone gyro Nov 7, 2021, 5:07 AM

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Г(z)=(z-1)! for integer z >= 1

obsidian wave Nov 7, 2021, 5:07 AM

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wtf thats calculus

stone gyro Nov 7, 2021, 5:07 AM

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teal storm calculus is taught in HS

~~and then taught again from scratch in first semester of uni~~ 😩

sullen elm Nov 7, 2021, 5:07 AM

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stone gyro ~~and then taught again from scratch in first semester of uni~~ 😩

Yeah I'm gonna have to go through that next year

teal storm Nov 7, 2021, 5:07 AM

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stone gyro ~~and then taught again from scratch in first semester of uni~~ 😩

kwoxbebd

obsidian wave Nov 7, 2021, 5:08 AM

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y do they have like a 100 new symbols in HS math which can be represented in s i m p l e english

obsidian wave Nov 7, 2021, 5:08 AM

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stone gyro ~~and then taught again from scratch in first semester of uni~~ 😩

wait actually

stone gyro Nov 7, 2021, 5:08 AM

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gl, I guess. it wasn't super bad for me, though there were a lot of theorems with french names

sullen elm Nov 7, 2021, 5:08 AM

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obsidian wave y do they have like a 100 new symbols in HS math which can be represented in *s ...

using words would be far weirder than using symbols

teal storm Nov 7, 2021, 5:08 AM

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average dx fan vs average Δx enjoyer

obsidian wave Nov 7, 2021, 5:08 AM

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obsidian wave y do they have like a 100 new symbols in HS math which can be represented in *s ...

like backwards E represents exists or smth

stone gyro Nov 7, 2021, 5:08 AM

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0 of which names I remember now

stone gyro Nov 7, 2021, 5:08 AM

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obsidian wave like backwards E represents exists or smth

because it's shorter, duh

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also, who the hell reads english

obsidian wave Nov 7, 2021, 5:08 AM

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stone gyro gl, I guess. it wasn't super bad for me, though there were a lot of theorems wit...

sacre bleu
i hope thats not very offensive its like the only thing i know in french

stone gyro Nov 7, 2021, 5:09 AM

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math is universal

obsidian wave Nov 7, 2021, 5:09 AM

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hmm ig so

jolly sun Nov 7, 2021, 5:10 AM

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stone gyro math is universal

math is universal given that everyone agrees on our notation of math

solid prawn Nov 7, 2021, 5:10 AM

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obsidian wave hsp r u in college or smth that looks hard

last year of high school

stone gyro Nov 7, 2021, 5:10 AM

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i'm mostly joking, yeah

solid prawn Nov 7, 2021, 5:10 AM

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last few months even

sullen elm Nov 7, 2021, 5:10 AM

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Last week for me

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So close

stone gyro Nov 7, 2021, 5:10 AM

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but anyway, if I'm reading a math article by someone who has trouble writing English, I'd much rather they used the math notation than try explaining it in words lol

sullen elm Nov 7, 2021, 5:10 AM

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three exams to go, then I'm free

teal storm Nov 7, 2021, 5:11 AM

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obsidian wave y do they have like a 100 new symbols in HS math which can be represented in *s ...

because ain't nobody wanna write put "for all real numbers x > 0, gamma(x) is defined as the integral from 0 to positive infinity of ........"

solid prawn Nov 7, 2021, 5:11 AM

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solid prawn gamma(x) is the integral of u^x e^u du from 0 to infinity iirc

jokes on you

obsidian wave Nov 7, 2021, 5:11 AM

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bruh i get confused by just a bunch of "<", "Δ", "~", etc. my brains gonna explode in HS

jolly sun Nov 7, 2021, 5:11 AM

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stone gyro but anyway, if I'm reading a math article by someone who has trouble writing Eng...

"Just gimme the code, don't explain, gimme the code" - Programmers

obsidian wave Nov 7, 2021, 5:11 AM

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teal storm because ain't nobody wanna write put "for all real numbers x > 0, gamma(x) is de...

ig so lol

teal storm Nov 7, 2021, 5:12 AM

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teal storm average dx fan vs average Δx enjoyer

i stand by this

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gn fr

jolly sun Nov 7, 2021, 5:12 AM

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gn avery

obsidian wave Nov 7, 2021, 5:12 AM

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i did a total of 20 problems of math today which is a lot for me ;-;

solid prawn Nov 7, 2021, 5:13 AM

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teal storm average dx fan vs average Δx enjoyer

vs average ∂x enthusiast

sick olive Nov 7, 2021, 5:13 AM

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hello!

stone gyro Nov 7, 2021, 5:13 AM

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jolly sun "Just gimme the code, don't explain, gimme the code" - Programmers

also programmers: can someone help I found the code* for this but it's not working

*they always say "the code" for some reason, like there's exactly 1 way to do any problem, and there's a bible of programming detailing all of them which was lost, and so now programmers have to rederive the contents from scraps hidden in history

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 5:13 AM

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amateurs

jolly sun Nov 7, 2021, 5:13 AM

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a bible of programming

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StackOverflow

teal storm Nov 7, 2021, 5:14 AM

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solid prawn vs average ∂x enthusiast

physicist hate him

stone gyro Nov 7, 2021, 5:14 AM

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vs average \pdv{}{x} enjoyer

jolly sun Nov 7, 2021, 5:14 AM

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vs average \gradient{x} consumer

obsidian wave Nov 7, 2021, 5:14 AM

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tf r u saying

stone gyro Nov 7, 2021, 5:15 AM

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I had one professor who, every time he introduced a new symbol, would write on the blackboard the latex code to produce that symbol

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 5:15 AM

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magic words

stone gyro Nov 7, 2021, 5:15 AM

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this is absolute poggers and I wish all profs did that

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 5:15 AM

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they're performing a summoning ritual

obsidian wave Nov 7, 2021, 5:15 AM

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stone gyro I had one professor who, every time he introduced a new symbol, would *write on ...

XD thats good

quasi cape Nov 7, 2021, 5:15 AM

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stone gyro I had one professor who, every time he introduced a new symbol, would *write on ...

wow

stone gyro Nov 7, 2021, 5:15 AM

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stone gyro I had one professor who, every time he introduced a new symbol, would *write on ...

(like, he'd be like "This is \to, don't you dare mix it up with \goesto!")

obsidian wave Nov 7, 2021, 5:15 AM

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is it true that the college professors dont pause for u to take notes and u have to be like writing down everything like extremely quickly or ur screwed
and even if they have recordings of classes i doubt ull have time

jolly sun Nov 7, 2021, 5:15 AM

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stone gyro I had one professor who, every time he introduced a new symbol, would *write on ...

I learnt Latex (or at least a subset of it) purely because of year 1 math and physics notetaking with all the symbols and notation

pastel moss Nov 7, 2021, 5:16 AM

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there are apps which just let you draw the symbol and it gives latex code iirc

quasi cape Nov 7, 2021, 5:16 AM

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jolly sun I learnt Latex (or at least a subset of it) purely because of year 1 math and ph...

exactly

solid prawn Nov 7, 2021, 5:16 AM

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pastel moss there are apps which just let you draw the symbol and it gives latex code iirc

👀 i want to make something like this now

stone gyro Nov 7, 2021, 5:16 AM

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obsidian wave is it true that the college professors dont pause for u to take notes and u have...

recordings of the classes are poggers for at least some kinds of professors

quasi cape Nov 7, 2021, 5:16 AM

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good ol notes

jolly sun Nov 7, 2021, 5:16 AM

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And now my entire class looks at me like I'm some sort of black magic wizard because I write equations in MS Word in Latex and just blitz through the thing instead of using the equation editor

teal storm Nov 7, 2021, 5:16 AM

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sick olive hello!

доктор стрейндж

solid prawn Nov 7, 2021, 5:17 AM

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jolly sun And now my entire class looks at me like I'm some sort of black magic wizard bec...

SO IM NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO USES THE LATEX IN MS WORD

jolly sun Nov 7, 2021, 5:17 AM

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YES

pastel moss Nov 7, 2021, 5:17 AM

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uh no... it's useful

jolly sun Nov 7, 2021, 5:17 AM

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LATEX GANG RISE UP

teal storm Nov 7, 2021, 5:17 AM

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stone gyro I had one professor who, every time he introduced a new symbol, would *write on ...

i would actually hug him, that's based asf

neat sparrow Nov 7, 2021, 5:17 AM

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I'll do college algebra then start calculus in uni

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not that hard

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fun even

pastel moss Nov 7, 2021, 5:17 AM

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searching through all the symbols is tedious

stone gyro Nov 7, 2021, 5:18 AM

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teal storm i would actually hug him, that's based asf

fuck that professor, actually, he was bad in some other ways, but that part was good of him

neat sparrow Nov 7, 2021, 5:18 AM

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lol

quasi cape Nov 7, 2021, 5:18 AM

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pastel moss searching through all the symbols is tedious

wiki

teal storm Nov 7, 2021, 5:18 AM

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stone gyro fuck that professor, actually, he was bad in some other ways, but that part was ...

oop

static trout Nov 7, 2021, 5:18 AM

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quasi cape wiki

new pfp ic

quasi cape Nov 7, 2021, 5:18 AM

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plus that overleaf website is quite handy

jolly sun Nov 7, 2021, 5:19 AM

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stone gyro fuck that professor, actually, he was bad in some other ways, but that part was ...

DO NOT

quasi cape Nov 7, 2021, 5:19 AM

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static trout new pfp ic

camila cabeyo fan art ig

pastel moss Nov 7, 2021, 5:19 AM

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idk, i've been doing maths on my own since online classes

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i just can't pay attention in M$ teams when ppl are spamming reactions

quasi cape Nov 7, 2021, 5:19 AM

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pastel moss idk, i've been doing maths on my own since online classes

lmfao relatable

static trout Nov 7, 2021, 5:20 AM

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pastel moss i just can't pay attention in M$ teams when ppl are spamming reactions

here nobody interacts with ms teams

quasi cape Nov 7, 2021, 5:20 AM

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here schools are opened smh

upper turret Nov 7, 2021, 5:20 AM

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pastel moss i just can't pay attention in M$ teams when ppl are spamming reactions

lmao

stone gyro Nov 7, 2021, 5:20 AM

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here zero people use laptops on lectures, smh

quasi cape Nov 7, 2021, 5:21 AM

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damn , you feel unique

pastel moss Nov 7, 2021, 5:21 AM

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lmao

quasi cape Nov 7, 2021, 5:21 AM

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same goes here , most believe on notebooks

stone gyro Nov 7, 2021, 5:21 AM

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quasi cape damn , you feel unique

i don't either, no

quasi cape Nov 7, 2021, 5:21 AM

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lol

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i mean having a notebook for doing rough is ok

static trout Nov 7, 2021, 5:21 AM

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bruh
after doing apt install bat zsh didnt recognize bat

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so im cargo installing it

quasi cape Nov 7, 2021, 5:22 AM

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lmao

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cargo can?

static trout Nov 7, 2021, 5:22 AM

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aaaaaaa its building from source

quasi cape Nov 7, 2021, 5:22 AM

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thats preposterous 👀

woven grotto Nov 7, 2021, 5:23 AM

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Omg I just realized the number was a 4 Byte Number 🤦‍♂️ ugh

neat sparrow Nov 7, 2021, 5:23 AM

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I found Dio in one piece

woven grotto Nov 7, 2021, 5:23 AM

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The large ass numbers that were like 1099431936

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That's a "4 Byte" number or something

stone gyro Nov 7, 2021, 5:24 AM

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who the fuck is deo

woven grotto Nov 7, 2021, 5:24 AM

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😩 I didn't know that

neat sparrow Nov 7, 2021, 5:24 AM

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dio

static trout Nov 7, 2021, 5:24 AM

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does he mean dio
oh he does

pastel moss Nov 7, 2021, 5:24 AM

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oh

stone gyro Nov 7, 2021, 5:24 AM

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woven grotto That's a "4 Byte" number or something

I mean, you can't tell if it's 32bit or 64bit if it fits in 32bits, lol

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!e

import math
print(math.log2(1099431936))

obtuse swallowBOT Nov 7, 2021, 5:24 AM

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@stone gyro :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

30.034111146096592

stone gyro Nov 7, 2021, 5:24 AM

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you can only say this is at least a 32-bit integer from this

pastel moss Nov 7, 2021, 5:25 AM

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why does log2 exist?

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why not just set the base to 2 smh

stone gyro Nov 7, 2021, 5:25 AM

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presumably it's more efficient than the general form

quasi cape Nov 7, 2021, 5:25 AM

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what if you take log of non 32 bit int ,will not it already throw error lol

stone gyro Nov 7, 2021, 5:25 AM

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similarly for ln

neat sparrow Nov 7, 2021, 5:25 AM

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probably has some optimizations

pastel moss Nov 7, 2021, 5:25 AM

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benchmark moment

stone gyro Nov 7, 2021, 5:25 AM

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quasi cape what if you take log of non 32 bit int ,will not it already throw error lol

huh?

woven grotto Nov 7, 2021, 5:25 AM

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stone gyro I mean, you can't tell if it's 32bit or 64bit if it fits in 32bits, lol

no like, the program says it's a 4 Byte, I just don't know how I could convert this to a float

pastel moss Nov 7, 2021, 5:26 AM

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oh yes, log 2 is just the length of it's binary form

quasi cape Nov 7, 2021, 5:26 AM

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stone gyro huh?

overflow error

stone gyro Nov 7, 2021, 5:26 AM

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overflow error where

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python ints are infinite-size

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 5:27 AM

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static trout bruh after doing `apt install bat` zsh didnt recognize bat

huh...?

quasi cape Nov 7, 2021, 5:28 AM

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stone gyro python ints are infinite-size

wat , we get one during int**{something}

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i forgor F

static trout Nov 7, 2021, 5:28 AM

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ok cargo install works

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 5:28 AM

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sudo apt install bat should've worked

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if it doesn't, something is wrong

stone gyro Nov 7, 2021, 5:28 AM

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quasi cape wat , we get one during int**{something}

if you do int**int, yes

quasi cape Nov 7, 2021, 5:28 AM

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oh yes

solid prawn Nov 7, 2021, 5:29 AM

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i think thats a C issue

stone gyro Nov 7, 2021, 5:29 AM

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pastel moss *benchmark moment*

%timeit [math.log2(x) for x in nums]
%timeit [math.log(x,2) for x in nums]
37.2 ms ± 4.39 ms per loop (mean ± std. dev. of 7 runs, 10 loops each)
38.7 ms ± 2.82 ms per loop (mean ± std. dev. of 7 runs, 10 loops each)

seems to be within the std, so hard to tell

quasi cape Nov 7, 2021, 5:29 AM

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lol

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!e

import math
print(math.log2(2**4023704572304702374032740982379044))

obtuse swallowBOT Nov 7, 2021, 5:30 AM

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@quasi cape :warning: Your eval job timed out or ran out of memory.

[No output]

quasi cape Nov 7, 2021, 5:30 AM

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hm ok

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thats C issue

stone gyro Nov 7, 2021, 5:30 AM

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!e

import math
print(4023704572304702374032740982379044/1024/1024)

obtuse swallowBOT Nov 7, 2021, 5:30 AM

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@stone gyro :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

3.8373037074133894e+27

stone gyro Nov 7, 2021, 5:31 AM

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quasi cape thats C issue

no, you just tried to calculate an int of around 3.8e+27 megabytes, lol

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python can in theory do it. good luck providing the memory for that

quasi cape Nov 7, 2021, 5:32 AM

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can we alter allocated memory 👀

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researchtime

stone gyro Nov 7, 2021, 5:32 AM

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Actually, this many bytes of memory is more than 2**64, which means 64-bit OSes can't actually manage that much even if you had that much physical RAM

quasi cape Nov 7, 2021, 5:32 AM

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right

stone gyro Nov 7, 2021, 5:34 AM

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the maximal int you can in theory fit in a 64bit memory space is something along the lines of 2**(2**64))

solid prawn Nov 7, 2021, 5:36 AM

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~~still not enough to store the weight of yo mama~~

cursive agate Nov 7, 2021, 5:36 AM

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yes

woven grotto Nov 7, 2021, 5:36 AM

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how could I go about converting a 4 Byte thing to a float? Am I able to do that I presume?

cursive agate Nov 7, 2021, 5:36 AM

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fuck discord so slow to load

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the universe is against me

neat sparrow Nov 7, 2021, 5:36 AM

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I'm going to learn my native language so that I can say dirty shit without people knowing

cursive agate Nov 7, 2021, 5:36 AM

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neat sparrow I'm going to learn my native language so that I can say dirty shit without peopl...

learn native language? so u dont know your own?

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damn

neat sparrow Nov 7, 2021, 5:37 AM

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went to a buffet this morning and some people behind us were talking about how it's rude for other people to speak non english langs around other english speakers

woven grotto Nov 7, 2021, 5:37 AM

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neat sparrow I'm going to learn my native language so that I can say dirty shit without peopl...

This reminds me of the tiktok comments where people say "I'm gay but no one will know because there are too many comments" for some reason

cursive agate Nov 7, 2021, 5:37 AM

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~~outcast!!!~~

neat sparrow Nov 7, 2021, 5:37 AM

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I wanted to tell my dad that the people behind us were weird af, but I didn't know how to say it lol

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plus I wanted to piss them off by speaking my language

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I like to piss off people who fail to use logic lol

cursive agate Nov 7, 2021, 5:38 AM

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neat sparrow I wanted to tell my dad that the people behind us were weird af, but I didn't kn...

why are they weird?

neat sparrow Nov 7, 2021, 5:38 AM

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woven grotto This reminds me of the tiktok comments where people say "I'm gay but no one will...

fuck that shit

neat sparrow Nov 7, 2021, 5:38 AM

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cursive agate why are they weird?

bruh their conversation bruh

cursive agate Nov 7, 2021, 5:38 AM

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neat sparrow bruh their conversation bruh

hm

neat sparrow Nov 7, 2021, 5:39 AM

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but yeah, gonna learn that language now

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also french. I should've spoken french to piss them off

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I know how to speak french but I just don't have a large vocabulary

cursive agate Nov 7, 2021, 5:40 AM

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neat sparrow I know how to speak french but I just don't have a large vocabulary

talk to akarys

neat sparrow Nov 7, 2021, 5:40 AM

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It's like being a toddler and only being able to say a few things because you don't know a lot of words

cursive agate Nov 7, 2021, 5:40 AM

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ask for "cool" words

neat sparrow Nov 7, 2021, 5:40 AM

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I'm going to write a program that notifies me with random words in a language every 5 minutes

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in rust*

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bro vscode is loading so slowly

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I'm thinking. Should it get a random word using a website's vocab bank, or should the list be up to the user

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finding a multi-lingual site api would be time consuming so I'll leave it all up to a json list

neat sparrow Nov 7, 2021, 5:48 AM

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cursive agate learn native language? so u dont know your own?

I know a bit, but not enough to have a full conversation

stone gyro Nov 7, 2021, 5:49 AM

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woven grotto how could I go about converting a 4 Byte thing to a float? Am I able to do that ...

what language? what type is that object?

serene dagger Nov 7, 2021, 5:51 AM

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woven grotto This reminds me of the tiktok comments where people say "I'm gay but no one will...

i eat stickers but no one will know

viral hull Nov 7, 2021, 5:52 AM

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woven grotto how could I go about converting a 4 Byte thing to a float? Am I able to do that ...

The struct.unpack function can convert a 4 byte byte string to a Python float

thick widget Nov 7, 2021, 5:53 AM

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LOL

neat sparrow Nov 7, 2021, 5:57 AM

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Do you guys think json, or a database would be better for storing words and their english translations

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I'm thinking of a dict, key sort of thing. Maybe yaml would be good

sick olive Nov 7, 2021, 5:58 AM

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no

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json is best in my apologies @neat sparrow

viral hull Nov 7, 2021, 6:02 AM

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If it's a small list that's updated rarely, JSON might be good enough. If it's a large list or updated frequently, a database would definitely be better.

neat sparrow Nov 7, 2021, 6:03 AM

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I suppose the user should be able to add their own words

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hmm, I'd need a gui then. I'll keep it json for now then expand later

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 6:20 AM

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apparently I've been idling in Rider for 2 hours

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thank you Discord

woven grotto Nov 7, 2021, 6:27 AM

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Is there a way to convert an int to a float, then from there convert that float into a byte 4? Mainly the Float to Byte 4 part

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in C#^

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 6:28 AM

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what is a "byte 4"?

woven grotto Nov 7, 2021, 6:28 AM

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type of byte apparently

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it's length is quite long

stone gyro Nov 7, 2021, 6:29 AM

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do you mean, like, directly intepret the float as a 4 byte int?

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this is possible, since single-precision floats are 32bits too, but it's a pretty uncommon thing to do

woven grotto Nov 7, 2021, 6:29 AM

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stone gyro do you mean, like, directly intepret the float as a 4 byte int?

I have a float, it converts into a 4 byte, then I'll have it output to the console so I can make sure it's correct

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 6:31 AM

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what the

stone gyro Nov 7, 2021, 6:31 AM

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    float f = 2.0f;
    int i;
    unsafe
    {
        float* fRef = &f;
        i = *((int*)fRef);
    }

would be the way, I believe

woven grotto Nov 7, 2021, 6:31 AM

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look up 4 byte if you haven't already @oak hemlock

woven grotto Nov 7, 2021, 6:31 AM

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stone gyro ```csharp float f = 2.0f; int i; unsafe { float* fRef = ...

explain "unsafe"?

stone gyro Nov 7, 2021, 6:32 AM

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C#, being a managed language, doesn't allow you to do low-level stuff like dereferencing pointers without an unsafe block.

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 6:32 AM

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why would one do this

woven grotto Nov 7, 2021, 6:32 AM

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I see

stone gyro Nov 7, 2021, 6:32 AM

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oak hemlock why would one do this

just to print the float's bit representation, it seems

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 6:33 AM

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._.

stone gyro Nov 7, 2021, 6:33 AM

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though technically, note that, say, the famous fast inverse square root uses this

woven grotto Nov 7, 2021, 6:33 AM

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how does fRef = &f work 😩 I'm quite confused

stone gyro Nov 7, 2021, 6:33 AM

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fast_inverse_square_root#Overview_of_the_code

woven grotto Nov 7, 2021, 6:33 AM

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mostly on fRef

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Oh wait

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fRef is a float, it's not multiplying

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I see * and thing multiplication lol

solid prawn Nov 7, 2021, 6:34 AM

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fRef is a pointer to a float

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(reference?)

woven grotto Nov 7, 2021, 6:34 AM

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yea

stone gyro Nov 7, 2021, 6:34 AM

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the idea is that one would think that we could just do i = (int) f, but that'd truncate the float to an int rather than do what we want. Instead, what we must do is make a pointer to the float, reinterpret that as a pointer to an int (which is safe because they have the same size) and dereference that pointer.

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 6:34 AM

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using System;

namespace ConsoleApp
{
    internal static class Program
    {
        private static void Main(string[] args)
        {
            const int i = 1;
            const float f = i;
            Console.WriteLine(BitConverter.ToString(BitConverter.GetBytes(i)));
            Console.WriteLine(BitConverter.ToString(BitConverter.GetBytes(f)));
        }
    }
}

This is what GitHub Copilot gave me

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roughly

woven grotto Nov 7, 2021, 6:35 AM

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hm

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 6:35 AM

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01-00-00-00
00-00-80-3F

stone gyro Nov 7, 2021, 6:35 AM

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wait, what the fuck is that first one

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 6:35 AM

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:faint:

stone gyro Nov 7, 2021, 6:36 AM

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why is your int little-endian

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 6:36 AM

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does it being constant have anything to do with it

stone gyro Nov 7, 2021, 6:36 AM

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doubt it

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 6:36 AM

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it does not

stone gyro Nov 7, 2021, 6:36 AM

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ah

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bitconverter has an endianness argument

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 6:37 AM

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I don't see this

stone gyro Nov 7, 2021, 6:37 AM

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actually it's not controlled, hmm

neat sparrow Nov 7, 2021, 6:37 AM

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copilot makes shit so easy

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of course, I still have to read the docs, but it saves time

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 6:37 AM

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oh... polymorphism might be hiding this argument

stone gyro Nov 7, 2021, 6:38 AM

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oak hemlock I don't see this

using System;
                    
public class Program
{
    public static void Main()
    {
        const int i = 1;
        const float f = i;
        Console.WriteLine(BitConverter.IsLittleEndian);
        Console.WriteLine(BitConverter.ToString(BitConverter.GetBytes(i)));
        Console.WriteLine(BitConverter.ToString(BitConverter.GetBytes(f)));
    }
}

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True
01-00-00-00
00-00-80-3F

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 6:38 AM

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oh I see

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is that really an "argument", though?

stone gyro Nov 7, 2021, 6:43 AM

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it's not, no

dusty quarry Nov 7, 2021, 7:07 AM

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Should the rich pay more taxes?

dusky inlet Nov 7, 2021, 7:10 AM

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stone gyro https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fast_inverse_square_root#Overview_of_the_code

lol quake

neat sparrow Nov 7, 2021, 7:19 AM

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dusty quarry Should the rich pay more taxes?

yes

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The existence of billionaires is a failure of the economic system

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 7:20 AM

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what the heck

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This is in the student developer pack lol

dusky inlet Nov 7, 2021, 7:26 AM

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lol

neat sparrow Nov 7, 2021, 7:31 AM

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damn I want that pink role

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Might as well try for the winter code jam

jolly moon Nov 7, 2021, 7:44 AM

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neat sparrow The existence of billionaires is a failure of the economic system

The existence of a economic system is the failure of humanity.

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and I do not support economies. All businesses exist to exploit, exploit humanity especially. I wish no businesses existed in reality.

stone gyro Nov 7, 2021, 7:48 AM

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~~the rich won't pay any taxes when we eat them~~

thick widget Nov 7, 2021, 7:48 AM

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thick widget Nov 7, 2021, 7:50 AM

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stone gyro ~~the rich won't pay any taxes when we eat them~~

therefore eating the rich is illegal

jolly moon Nov 7, 2021, 7:51 AM

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the rich can suffer, and so can any capitalists or people who support a world economy.

stone gyro Nov 7, 2021, 7:51 AM

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how exactly do you plan to have, uhh, a civilisation without economy?

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or are you using "economy" in some specific meaning, like capitalist markets specifically?

jolly moon Nov 7, 2021, 7:52 AM

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Businesses only exist to exploit dude

fast viper Nov 7, 2021, 7:52 AM

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Absolute statements. Statements like "all X do Y" are always wrong. Always. 😉

pliant canyon Nov 7, 2021, 7:53 AM

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u can stop a business from exploiting by not trading with them

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well not just you

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but yes

jolly moon Nov 7, 2021, 7:53 AM

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pliant canyon u can stop a business from exploiting by not trading with them

right, but they will still do dirty deeds

pliant canyon Nov 7, 2021, 7:53 AM

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businesses depend on people and people depend on businesses

stone gyro Nov 7, 2021, 7:53 AM

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pliant canyon u can stop a business from exploiting by not trading with them

that's not exactly the argument I'd make.

pliant canyon Nov 7, 2021, 7:53 AM

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yes

jolly moon Nov 7, 2021, 7:53 AM

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businesses are filth

pliant canyon Nov 7, 2021, 7:54 AM

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sure

stone gyro Nov 7, 2021, 7:54 AM

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I'd make the argument of what the hell do you mean all businesses are bad, how exactly are you planning to produce anything then, are you going to starve to death instead?

sullen elm Nov 7, 2021, 7:54 AM

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I'm not exactly sure how the modern world would function without them 👀

jolly moon Nov 7, 2021, 7:54 AM

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I'd like to go back to when you hand make everything

fast viper Nov 7, 2021, 7:54 AM

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Businesses provide income, jobs, wealth for individuals. I don't get this rigid stance. You're using the internet and complaining about them only because some business got you the money to get here

fast viper Nov 7, 2021, 7:54 AM

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jolly moon I'd like to go back to when you hand make everything

That would still be business

sullen elm Nov 7, 2021, 7:54 AM

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Sure there are some bad businesses, but the majority of them are not bad, they're just supplying demand and being good people making a living

fast viper Nov 7, 2021, 7:55 AM

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Business doesn't mean "must be machine made".

jolly moon Nov 7, 2021, 7:55 AM

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sullen elm Sure there are some bad businesses, but the majority of them are not bad, they'r...

Microsoft and google and all the big tech need to die. fingerprinting is shit

stone gyro Nov 7, 2021, 7:55 AM

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jolly moon I'd like to go back to when you hand make everything

ah yes, so also the times when we had to have several farmers per non-farmer and population had to be dozens of times smaller and less concentrated, then? I'm sure that'd go well with the billions of people that'd need to die for that.

fast viper Nov 7, 2021, 7:55 AM

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jolly moon Microsoft and google and all the big tech need to die. fingerprinting is shit

Very different statement from "all businesses are bad"

sullen elm Nov 7, 2021, 7:55 AM

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jolly moon Microsoft and google and all the big tech need to die. fingerprinting is shit

I don't necessarily agree with everything they do, but I'm not going to say "they're bad. Period.", because they do good things as well

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There's never absolutes

jolly moon Nov 7, 2021, 7:56 AM

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Goverment survellience is big in Australia and the UK, i'd rather not live there, fuck them.

sullen elm Nov 7, 2021, 7:56 AM

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Can't say I've had any issues as an Australian

jolly moon Nov 7, 2021, 7:56 AM

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sullen elm Can't say I've had any issues as an Australian

they can hack your phone without a warranty now in australia

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https://tutanota.com/blog/posts/australia-surveillance-bill/

Tutanota

Australia: Unprecedented surveillance bill rushed through parliamen...

Australian police can now hack your device, collect or delete your data, take over your social media accounts.

harsh cave Nov 7, 2021, 7:56 AM

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hello

jolly moon Nov 7, 2021, 7:57 AM

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I do not use tutanota preferably, I use some e-mail service that is far more off-sourced and is less known to the public.

sullen elm Nov 7, 2021, 7:58 AM

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Again, I don't necessarily agree with everything some companies, governments etc do. The Australian government is really annoying me right now with their stance on climate change, but I'm not going to say "They're causing nothing but bad things", inevitably they're keeping the country running

fast viper Nov 7, 2021, 7:59 AM

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I do wish Australia would get their act together on that front

sullen elm Nov 7, 2021, 7:59 AM

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I know, it's crazy

jolly moon Nov 7, 2021, 7:59 AM

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they never will with that type of corruption

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Australia is a police dystopia from what I am hearing

sullen elm Nov 7, 2021, 8:00 AM

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huh?

thick widget Nov 7, 2021, 8:00 AM

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dear god, please keep this out of my recommendations

jolly moon Nov 7, 2021, 8:00 AM

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sullen elm huh?

They are monitoring every little thing you do.

sullen elm Nov 7, 2021, 8:00 AM

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Can't say I've had that experience

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Nor have I heard of that being the case for others

jolly moon Nov 7, 2021, 8:00 AM

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How do you know? The NSA scans your pc's no matter what country too.

thick widget Nov 7, 2021, 8:01 AM

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yeah shouldnt have clicked on a video with ✨ emojis

jolly moon Nov 7, 2021, 8:01 AM

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hackers can get into your pc with little or no trace

fast viper Nov 7, 2021, 8:01 AM

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jolly moon Australia is a police dystopia from what I am hearing

I'm a bit concerned if this is all you hear

sullen elm Nov 7, 2021, 8:01 AM

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I mean sure, maybe they are. But currently there's no evidence of that being the case, so until then I'm going to continue believeing that the police are not monitoring my every move

fast viper Nov 7, 2021, 8:01 AM

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I feel like you might be tuning into something too radical

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A common problem with the echo chambers on the internet today. Watch yourself, lest you lose yourself

jolly moon Nov 7, 2021, 8:02 AM

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What's wrong with being radical?

sullen elm Nov 7, 2021, 8:02 AM

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My mum works for the police, so do my neighbours and many family friends. They're all good people who know what's what in the police world, we're not like china with the whole social credit score thing and constant surveillance, far from that

fast viper Nov 7, 2021, 8:02 AM

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jolly moon What's wrong with being radical?

You tell me. Stop typing and start thinking for yourself.

jolly moon Nov 7, 2021, 8:03 AM

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radical's are good people in my opinion, we all work together to stitch the filth of society.

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and make it better.

fast viper Nov 7, 2021, 8:04 AM

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Either you don't know what actions people have taken, or you refuse to see it as it is. There's no "stitching together" with dissent, violence, and bloodshed

jolly moon Nov 7, 2021, 8:04 AM

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I'm not referring to those radicals, I am a anarchist

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anarchism is different

fast viper Nov 7, 2021, 8:05 AM

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I must make a sidenote, I really dislike what people do these days , inventing terms left right centre and then arguing on technicalities and semantics.

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It makes it that much harder to get people to collaborate. It feels like a real fight over just labels. As if people stop seeing others as people once a label has been assigned

jolly moon Nov 7, 2021, 8:06 AM

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And no, I don't like bloodshed, I am more-so a person who wants to make the world a better place for everyone.

stone gyro Nov 7, 2021, 8:06 AM

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i'm not sure you really thought any of your opinions through.

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see my earlier messages for details.

jolly moon Nov 7, 2021, 8:07 AM

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I align with disroot and inventati due to my needs of privacy

stone gyro Nov 7, 2021, 8:08 AM

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let's say that I saw anarchists with more nuanced opinions than "let's eliminate literally all organisation the human civilization has ever had, somehow - that'd surely make things better". if you don't think it's a valid summary of your opinions, then please explain what you mean by getting rid of the economy.

jolly moon Nov 7, 2021, 8:08 AM

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fine.

fast viper Nov 7, 2021, 8:09 AM

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Re. Echo chambers. My best advice is this: "listen to people you disagree with." Actively seek out all points of views first, if you truly wish to understand how things are. It might be a weird idea at first, but you may end up realising that there's more to the story than it seems, fairly often.

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And if your view point was correct all along, then even better because then you'd be able to see the fallacies in the logic that others made, and give you the opportunity to correct it.

stone gyro Nov 7, 2021, 8:12 AM

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this approach is a bit dangerous though, because if you seek out people who are bad at arguing, then by winning arguments with them, you'll get more sure in your opinions even if it's completely irrational. it's just how the human brain works, winning argument=>you're right, even if you've heard all of their arguments before and so, logically, refuting them again shouldn't affect your beliefs.

fast viper Nov 7, 2021, 8:13 AM

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Hm, I don't necessarily think so. But even if so, breaking out of the feedback loop is a lot more important

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Ie. no argument, everyone feels this way is much worse than at least seeing some opposition

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But perhaps yes, the opposition should also be chosen appropriately perhaps*

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Though then determining for yourself who would have the right counter arguments would be tough on its own

viral hull Nov 7, 2021, 8:17 AM

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Well, when the other side holds opinions like "vaccines cause 5G", you're not likely to gain much from Socratic discourse

solid prawn Nov 7, 2021, 8:19 AM

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if only 5G was being handed out for free 😔

viral hull Nov 7, 2021, 8:20 AM

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https://www.snopes.com/news/2021/11/04/qanon-dallas/

Snopes.com

Bethania Palma

QAnon Believers Went to Dealey Plaza Expecting Arrival of Deceased ...

Spoiler alert: He didn't show.

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So that was this week in the US.

neat sparrow Nov 7, 2021, 8:22 AM

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"vaccines cause 5g"

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dafuq

neat sparrow Nov 7, 2021, 8:22 AM

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viral hull https://www.snopes.com/news/2021/11/04/qanon-dallas/

Yeah that shit was crazy dumb

viral hull Nov 7, 2021, 8:23 AM

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neat sparrow dafuq

https://www.statesman.com/story/news/politics/2021/10/31/graphene-oxide-nanoparticles-and-other-things-not-covid-vaccines/6198059001/

vocal river Nov 7, 2021, 8:26 AM

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nice

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so I have this big column with thses values in it

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lets say I want only Sy2 to appear in the table

elfin horizon Nov 7, 2021, 8:27 AM

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like, you want to clear everything that's not Sy2?

vocal river Nov 7, 2021, 8:27 AM

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yes

elfin horizon Nov 7, 2021, 8:27 AM

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so there should be a bunch of blank spaces too right?

vocal river Nov 7, 2021, 8:27 AM

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slicer does it pretty well, thbe problem is that it doesn't save well

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wdym blank spaces

elfin horizon Nov 7, 2021, 8:28 AM

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if you have a column like Sy2 Sy2 LMXB Sy2 LMXB Sy2 do you want it to output as ```
Sy2
Sy2

Sy2

Sy2or as
Sy2
Sy2
Sy2
Sy2```

vocal river Nov 7, 2021, 8:28 AM

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elfin horizon if you have a column like ``` Sy2 Sy2 LMXB Sy2 LMXB Sy2``` do you want it to out...

the latter

prime girder Nov 7, 2021, 8:28 AM

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jolly moon How do you know? The NSA scans your pc's no matter what country too.

Damn the NSA really do be looking at a bunch of typescript garbage

elfin horizon Nov 7, 2021, 8:29 AM

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can't you just type Sy2 and extend it to 391 then

vocal river Nov 7, 2021, 8:29 AM

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wdym?

prime girder Nov 7, 2021, 8:29 AM

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I think what they're saying is to populate a list or something with 391 entries of Sy2

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to replace the current one...?

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I'm not really understanding it myself meguFace

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Is this meant to be a separate table, or is it meant to replace the current one?

real igloo Nov 7, 2021, 8:31 AM

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Hey! I am just getting started with Python. Can anyone of you tell me some of the best resources available on the internet for beginners?

vocal river Nov 7, 2021, 8:31 AM

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prime girder Is this meant to be a separate table, or is it meant to replace the current one?

the sy2 table should be seperate, but conected to the main table, so that if I change any value in one of the columns in the main table, the row will update it in the new table

stone gyro Nov 7, 2021, 8:31 AM

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real igloo Hey! I am just getting started with Python. Can anyone of you tell me some of t...

!resources is supposed to be a list of exactly that

obtuse swallowBOT Nov 7, 2021, 8:31 AM

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Resources

The Resources page on our website contains a list of hand-selected learning resources that we regularly recommend to both beginners and experts.

hasty kite Nov 7, 2021, 8:32 AM

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hi

vocal river Nov 7, 2021, 8:33 AM

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I want a filtered table connected to the main table somehow basically

hasty kite Nov 7, 2021, 8:34 AM

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!рудз

prime girder Nov 7, 2021, 8:34 AM

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rudz

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 8:34 AM

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._.

elfin horizon Nov 7, 2021, 8:34 AM

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oh i don't really know how to have it do that automatically sorry

prime girder Nov 7, 2021, 8:34 AM

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You'd probably need a watch event of some sorts

hasty kite Nov 7, 2021, 8:34 AM

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prime girder rudz

do you know russian?

prime girder Nov 7, 2021, 8:34 AM

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I know how to read cyrillic but I don't speak Russian too well

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 8:37 AM

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welp

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I'm incredibly frustrated

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Imagine you had an error that you need solved

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and this is your only lead

vocal river Nov 7, 2021, 8:38 AM

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prime girder You'd probably need a watch event of some sorts

watch event?

prime girder Nov 7, 2021, 8:38 AM

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Yeah, to monitor when the data inside of the original table has been modified

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 8:39 AM

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they call those sentinels, right?

prime girder Nov 7, 2021, 8:39 AM

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I have no idea what the terminology in python is

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I'm used to node's terminology

pale mesa Nov 7, 2021, 8:39 AM

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jesus fuck this integration is so long

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imma give up

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 8:39 AM

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nvm maybe I'm confused

dusky inlet Nov 7, 2021, 8:40 AM

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oak hemlock and this is your only lead

show code

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 8:43 AM

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dusky inlet show code

I don't have any code

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that's why it's so infuriating

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This is from the Unity Editor log

dusky inlet Nov 7, 2021, 8:44 AM

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wheez

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 8:44 AM

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I'm literally so upset :(

dusky inlet Nov 7, 2021, 8:44 AM

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driver probs?

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is the GLContext referring to the opengl windoww

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is the window opening

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@oak hemlock wait, is the error for unity's editor not opening or your project

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 8:49 AM

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er

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 8:49 AM

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dusky inlet driver probs?

Probably. it only happens with my NVIDIA card

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 8:49 AM

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dusky inlet <@!235904856106336257> wait, is the error for unity's editor not opening or your...

It happens when I open a window from the Editor

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stuff like "preferences" or "add component"

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they just appear black

dusky inlet Nov 7, 2021, 8:49 AM

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are you missing any dependencies

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 8:50 AM

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I would not think so

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but how the heck would I know

dusky inlet Nov 7, 2021, 8:50 AM

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iv not used unity but it uses npm to install deps i think

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and npm might fail to install some of them due to permission issues

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 8:51 AM

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uh

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everything works when I use my AMD GPU

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Which is a stupid. annoying. trend

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This makes me so mad LMAO

pale mesa Nov 7, 2021, 8:51 AM

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u have two cards?

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 8:51 AM

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yes

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AMD 4800h + RTX 2060 Mobile

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the AMD one is iGPU, idk the name

pale mesa Nov 7, 2021, 8:52 AM

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oh i thought u had two dGPUs haha

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 8:52 AM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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maybe that'd have been easier to work with

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ugh

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m ver sad

pale mesa Nov 7, 2021, 8:53 AM

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nvidia cards gives me annoying issues sometimes

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i cant even get 30fps in a flash game lmao

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 8:53 AM

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you don't want to know the pain I've gone through

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you really don't

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been having NVIDIA problems for about 2 years

pale mesa Nov 7, 2021, 8:53 AM

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oak hemlock and this is your only lead

this error still going?

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 8:54 AM

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not if I use my AMD GPU

pale mesa Nov 7, 2021, 8:54 AM

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i like how googling gives no relevant results

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this must be an obscure error

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 8:55 AM

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I hate it

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I hate it all

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I'm probably just going to abandon my install

pale mesa Nov 7, 2021, 8:55 AM

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tried updating nvidia drivers?

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 8:55 AM

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pfft

sonic crypt Nov 7, 2021, 8:55 AM

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Hey

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 8:55 AM

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yes.

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dusky inlet Nov 7, 2021, 8:56 AM

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oak hemlock I hate it

try using opengl from c++ with your nvidia gpu

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 8:56 AM

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I'm able to run glxgears with my NVIDIA driver

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so, OpenGL at least works

dusky inlet Nov 7, 2021, 8:57 AM

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hmm

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 8:57 AM

#

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God only knows why vsync is off

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dusky inlet Nov 7, 2021, 8:59 AM

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@oak hemlock dont use the editor fineletuscomparecapital

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 8:59 AM

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._.

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I feel so sad

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always unlucky

dusky inlet Nov 7, 2021, 8:59 AM

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give more context

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 9:00 AM

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for?

dusky inlet Nov 7, 2021, 9:00 AM

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on whats not working

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 9:00 AM

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oak hemlock and this is your only lead

this is literally all I have for you

dusky inlet Nov 7, 2021, 9:00 AM

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when does that error show up

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 9:00 AM

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oak hemlock It happens when I open a window from the Editor

.

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that is what it looks like

pale mesa Nov 7, 2021, 9:01 AM

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are u on linux

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must be because of linux /s

dusky inlet Nov 7, 2021, 9:04 AM

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oak hemlock

try resizing this preferences window

pale mesa Nov 7, 2021, 9:06 AM

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will that force a re-render

dusky inlet Nov 7, 2021, 9:06 AM

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yea

quasi cape Nov 7, 2021, 9:07 AM

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meanwhile re rendering on windows term breaks vim

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lmfao

chrome zinc Nov 7, 2021, 9:10 AM

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uhhh i can't seem to ping both of them to each other

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 9:14 AM

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dusky inlet try resizing this preferences window

too lazy to go back to that

chrome zinc Nov 7, 2021, 9:16 AM

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uhhh how do i make it so that it connects to the LAN

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btw this is a VM

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 9:19 AM

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chrome zinc uhhh how do i make it so that it connects to the LAN

it says it's already connected

pale mesa Nov 7, 2021, 9:19 AM

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^

chrome zinc Nov 7, 2021, 9:19 AM

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oh yea it works

sick olive Nov 7, 2021, 9:19 AM

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chrome zinc uhhh how do i make it so that it connects to the LAN

Your computer is so slow
Such old

pale mesa Nov 7, 2021, 9:19 AM

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the vm uses a "virtual network adapter" thingy to route the connection to your VM

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this brings back memories

neat sparrow Nov 7, 2021, 9:20 AM

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why such an old vm lol

quasi cape Nov 7, 2021, 9:21 AM

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is that xp

pale mesa Nov 7, 2021, 9:21 AM

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ye

chrome zinc Nov 7, 2021, 9:21 AM

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sometimes it displays this page

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it's a XP vm where i just test out random s***

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the internet works but it's really buggy

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 9:22 AM

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oh I wonder why

chrome zinc Nov 7, 2021, 9:22 AM

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probably because it's a VM

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 9:24 AM

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VM + Windows XP + Explorer

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really not the recipe for success

chrome zinc Nov 7, 2021, 9:26 AM

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chrome is trying SOMEWHAT

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btw it's saying "Connecting to the Internet"

#

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ok cool bye bye system

cursive agate Nov 7, 2021, 9:37 AM

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oak hemlock Probably. it only happens with my NVIDIA card

What Display server?

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 9:37 AM

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cursive agate What Display server?

Wayland

cursive agate Nov 7, 2021, 9:37 AM

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go back to X

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 9:37 AM

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Same happens on X.org

cursive agate Nov 7, 2021, 9:37 AM

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oh..

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did u update your nvidia card recently?

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 9:37 AM

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yeah...

cursive agate Nov 7, 2021, 9:37 AM

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try lsmod | grep -i nvidia

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gibb output to me. i gibb love

cursive agate Nov 7, 2021, 9:38 AM

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oak hemlock yeah...

if u did, try to rollback, and check if that fixes it. assuming the current plan of fixing said issue wont help

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 9:39 AM

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cursive agate try `lsmod | grep -i nvidia`

nvidia_modeset       1155072  0
nvidia              36950016  124 nvidia_modeset
i2c_nvidia_gpu         16384  0
drm                   626688  29 gpu_sched,drm_kms_helper,nvidia,amdgpu,drm_ttm_helper,ttm

cursive agate Nov 7, 2021, 9:40 AM

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oak hemlock ```sh nvidia_modeset 1155072 0 nvidia 36950016 124 nvidia_m...

i assume that nvidia driver is version 495?

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 9:40 AM

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495.44

cursive agate Nov 7, 2021, 9:40 AM

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okay

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rollback

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 9:40 AM

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Why?

cursive agate Nov 7, 2021, 9:40 AM

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that driver is buggy

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 9:40 AM

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ugh

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all the drivers are buggy :(

dusky inlet Nov 7, 2021, 9:41 AM

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oak hemlock all the drivers are buggy :(

thats why automated cars

cursive agate Nov 7, 2021, 9:41 AM

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i kinda dislike nvidia getting too excited releasing it because of GBM API to support wayland

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that new driver supports wayland but also caused a lot of shit on some apps lol

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 9:41 AM

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I hate my slow internet

cursive agate Nov 7, 2021, 9:42 AM

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so go back to 470. hopefully unity will work

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 9:42 AM

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I kind of highly doubt it

cursive agate Nov 7, 2021, 9:42 AM

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tell me when that works. otherwise it might be EGL causing issues or just sadness.

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oh wait sadness, sad.

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 9:44 AM

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cursive agate tell me when that works. otherwise it might be EGL causing issues or just sadnes...

EGL... that reminds me of an error I got when installing the driver

cursive agate Nov 7, 2021, 9:44 AM

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oak hemlock EGL... that reminds me of an error I got when installing the driver

the version 1.1.9 is buggy as fuck.

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 9:44 AM

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well

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It said it could not find the EGL library or something

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I just ignored it because I couldn't figure out how to solve it

cursive agate Nov 7, 2021, 9:44 AM

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go back to egl 1.1.7

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 9:44 AM

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I don't know what that means

cursive agate Nov 7, 2021, 9:45 AM

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the version

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 9:45 AM

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idfk what egl is

cursive agate Nov 7, 2021, 9:45 AM

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that is the shitty nvidia implementation to support nvidia graphics on wayland.

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 9:45 AM

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??

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❯ sudo zypper if libwayland-egl1
Loading repository data...
Reading installed packages...


Information for package libwayland-egl1:
----------------------------------------
Repository     : openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Oss
Name           : libwayland-egl1
Version        : 1.19.0-1.5
Arch           : x86_64
Vendor         : openSUSE
Installed Size : 14.0 KiB
Installed      : Yes (automatically)
Status         : up-to-date
Source package : wayland-1.19.0-1.5.src
Summary        : Additional egl functions for wayland
Description    :
    This package provides additional functions for EGL-using programs
    that run within the Wayland framework. This allows for applications
    that need not run full-screen and cooperate with a compositor.

cursive agate Nov 7, 2021, 9:46 AM

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there are two implementations. GBM the de facto one and only standard, and the shitty egl from nvidia.

cursive agate Nov 7, 2021, 9:46 AM

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oak hemlock ??

hmmmm

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 9:46 AM

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This really does not help me

cursive agate Nov 7, 2021, 9:47 AM

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am i looking at egl-wayland?

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seems like it. hmm

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 9:47 AM

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it says the package name

cursive agate Nov 7, 2021, 9:47 AM

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eh thats a weird version. 1.19 seems to be 1.1.9

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anyway yeah go back to 1.17. that versioning scheme in opensuse is annoying

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 9:48 AM

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❯ sudo zypper se -i | grep -i "egl"
i  | Mesa-libEGL1                               | EGL API implementation                                                             | package
i  | libwayland-egl1                            | Additional egl functions for wayland                                               | package

cursive agate Nov 7, 2021, 9:49 AM

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oak hemlock ``` ❯ sudo zypper se -i | grep -i "egl" i | Mesa-libEGL1 ...

libwayland-egl

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imma look on software.opensuse.org

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 9:49 AM

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hm.

cursive agate Nov 7, 2021, 9:50 AM

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https://software.opensuse.org/package/libnvidia-egl-wayland1 @oak hemlock

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nvm i found it lol hopefully try to install it

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 9:50 AM

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hm

sullen elm Nov 7, 2021, 9:50 AM

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I wouldn't have a clue what he's referring to, depends what he consider's to be 'advanced' in relation to classes I suppose

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Perhaps proper OOP design principles

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I mean, I don't have a set criteria for intermediate. I just assume anyone who's learnt the basic syntax of Python (so more or less all features of the language) and has used some in some smaller projects is at an intermediate level

fluid hazel Nov 7, 2021, 9:53 AM

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context managers, generators, decorators and packages are "advanced"?

sullen elm Nov 7, 2021, 9:53 AM

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Yeah I don't agree with this list

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Don't use one

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It's pointless

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Start making things

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You'll learn new things as you go

fast viper Nov 7, 2021, 9:54 AM

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its a bit backwards. treat it like a hand-in-hand process

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you will need to do a little bit of learning, and a little bit of making. make something, hit a wall. read up. repeat

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precisely because theres too much to just "learn" before you start.

sullen elm Nov 7, 2021, 9:55 AM

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I mean, there's an endless amount, you'll never learn it all. But as you start to make things you'll begin to recognise what you do need to learn and what will be useful to know

fast viper Nov 7, 2021, 9:55 AM

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let an actual task guide you on what to learn

sullen elm Nov 7, 2021, 9:56 AM

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A fair bit of the stuff in there you'll learn as you progress, but I wouldn't try go through and tick all of them off

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Because trying to do that is not only going to take ages, but it's pretty much useless if you don't use it

cursive agate Nov 7, 2021, 9:56 AM

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learn what u will use

glad grove Nov 7, 2021, 9:56 AM

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I feel like people make these lists because they want a way to quantify how proficient they are. But the best way to know that is to actually make things, and then figure out what you still need to learn when you hit a roadblock in a project

sullen elm Nov 7, 2021, 9:57 AM

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Anything that interests you. Re-create some old arcade games or something in PyGame or Arcade, build a website and you can integrate JS and Python, make a discord bot etc etc

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I tend to just think of some random thing, then develop upon it until ~~6 months later I'm still working on it~~ I end up with a final product

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You could use both. Have Python on the backend of the website to let users save accounts or something along those lines

solid prawn Nov 7, 2021, 9:58 AM

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that looks nice

sullen elm Nov 7, 2021, 9:58 AM

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That'd open up opportunities to learn about databases

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sqlite is builtin so you can just import it yeah

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I haven't worked with sqlite so I don't recall if it's a local DB, if so you might need to download some additional things

fast viper Nov 7, 2021, 10:00 AM

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sqlite is complete. and yeah its a local db

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yes.

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if you wanted to "view" the database you could install some sqlite db viewer, but completely optional

pseudo pivot Nov 7, 2021, 10:02 AM

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@glad grove

glad grove Nov 7, 2021, 10:02 AM

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Hi

cursive agate Nov 7, 2021, 10:02 AM

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my only motivation to learn frontend and backend frameworks is i can do freelance and part time

pseudo pivot Nov 7, 2021, 10:02 AM

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Hi

cursive agate Nov 7, 2021, 10:02 AM

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my demotivation is i dont like them

cursive agate Nov 7, 2021, 10:03 AM

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glad grove Hi

lol new user vibe kind of hi

sullen elm Nov 7, 2021, 10:03 AM

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I'll stay away from frontend until uni forces me to do it sometime next year

pseudo pivot Nov 7, 2021, 10:03 AM

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I know react and learning django in backend and know flask and nodejs as backend

sullen elm Nov 7, 2021, 10:04 AM

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CSS is the worst thing I have ever worked with

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HTML is fine, JS I can tolerate

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CSS I don't want to touch ever again

glad grove Nov 7, 2021, 10:04 AM

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With css I just slap !important on things until I can force my changes to take effect

pseudo pivot Nov 7, 2021, 10:04 AM

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Guys what is C# and go used for?

sullen elm Nov 7, 2021, 10:05 AM

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C# these days is used a lot in game dev and for .NET stuff. And for windows applications

solid prawn Nov 7, 2021, 10:05 AM

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web backends, desktop apps

cursive agate Nov 7, 2021, 10:05 AM

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pseudo pivot Guys what is C# and go used for?

Go is used mostly for server stuff

sullen elm Nov 7, 2021, 10:05 AM

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Go is used in web dev a bit, although people tend to either love or hate it from what I've seen

cursive agate Nov 7, 2021, 10:05 AM

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joe likes it

stone gyro Nov 7, 2021, 10:05 AM

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my knowledge of go is mostly the two articles joe links, but from them it sounds horrible and I can't imagine using it for anything

sullen elm Nov 7, 2021, 10:05 AM

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stone gyro my knowledge of go is mostly the two articles joe links, but from them it sounds...

Yep

pseudo pivot Nov 7, 2021, 10:06 AM

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Now I feel like I should try C#

novel hull Nov 7, 2021, 10:06 AM

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Go is great for its purpose if you can brush past how heavily it is opinionated

pseudo pivot Nov 7, 2021, 10:06 AM

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stone gyro my knowledge of go is mostly the two articles joe links, but from them it sounds...

Wdym what was written in it that made u hate go?

stone gyro Nov 7, 2021, 10:06 AM

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pseudo pivot Wdym what was written in it that made u hate go?

https://fasterthanli.me/articles/i-want-off-mr-golangs-wild-ride
https://yager.io/programming/go.html

fasterthanli.me

I want off Mr. Golang's Wild Ride

My honeymoon with the Go language is extremely over. This article is going to have a different tone from what I've been posting
the past year - it's a proper rant. And I alw...

cursive agate Nov 7, 2021, 10:06 AM

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imo use the right tools for the right job and ignore the idea that one language is better than the other. waht i mean is, try to fit it with your use cases. want speed? definitely go and not python

novel hull Nov 7, 2021, 10:07 AM

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Asynchronous programming, mainly when you need to do something while waiting for I/O

stone gyro Nov 7, 2021, 10:07 AM

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even the "minor details" like lack of generics make me go wtf, though

pseudo pivot Nov 7, 2021, 10:07 AM

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So for u C# better?

novel hull Nov 7, 2021, 10:07 AM

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stone gyro even the "minor details" like lack of generics make me go wtf, though

Yeeeeeeah, that's the opinionated part

chrome zinc Nov 7, 2021, 10:08 AM

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pseudo pivot So for u C# better?

it kinda depends

stone gyro Nov 7, 2021, 10:08 AM

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....was Go ever made to compete with C#? I don't think it was

novel hull Nov 7, 2021, 10:08 AM

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It has a lot of thorns, but also some very nice ideas, like a nice interface for thread communication

sullen elm Nov 7, 2021, 10:08 AM

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Basically it lets you make use of time that would otherwise be spent doing nothing. So like take discord.py as an example, if it didn't use asyncio it would stop every time it made a HTTP request which is comparatively slow. So using asyncio kind of speeds up the bot, just note that it's not going to speed up CPU-bound tasks @sick olive

cursive agate Nov 7, 2021, 10:08 AM

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stone gyro ....was Go ever made to compete with C#? I don't think it was

its goal is simplicity iirc not to be competitive

solid prawn Nov 7, 2021, 10:08 AM

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goroutines are cool apparently

chrome zinc Nov 7, 2021, 10:08 AM

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if you go by name everything lines up, C -> C++ -> C#

novel hull Nov 7, 2021, 10:08 AM

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goroutines are a certified hood classic

chrome zinc Nov 7, 2021, 10:08 AM

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but if you go by what they actually are

stone gyro Nov 7, 2021, 10:08 AM

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every language is made to be competitive

chrome zinc Nov 7, 2021, 10:08 AM

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then it doesn't make sense AT ALL.

stone gyro Nov 7, 2021, 10:08 AM

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or it wouldn't be used by anyone

pseudo pivot Nov 7, 2021, 10:09 AM

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Both are good in that sense

chrome zinc Nov 7, 2021, 10:09 AM

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for example C++ is more C-like
but C# is more like Java

still pike Nov 7, 2021, 10:09 AM

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When polymorphism is considered as an afterthought, a language's generics usually suck

novel hull Nov 7, 2021, 10:09 AM

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The package structure is a nightmare in go

stone gyro Nov 7, 2021, 10:09 AM

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C# is a fun language to learn and use, I'd say

novel hull Nov 7, 2021, 10:10 AM

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And the syntax has a lot of questionable aspects

still pike Nov 7, 2021, 10:10 AM

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Packaging is a crucial factor in a language's competitiveness too, imo

novel hull Nov 7, 2021, 10:10 AM

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Yeah, definitely

chrome zinc Nov 7, 2021, 10:10 AM

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this is more of like a game

novel hull Nov 7, 2021, 10:11 AM

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Things like if a filename ends with '_test', it's a file containing tests and you need to create a subpackage with its own directory and 'go.mod' just to get a namespace are... not good

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Yeah

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What are you struggling with?

chrome zinc Nov 7, 2021, 10:14 AM

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take a look on a site you use everyday

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and then try to copy it

novel hull Nov 7, 2021, 10:15 AM

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A simple way to do one is to have a <form method='post'> in your login page, and then check if the password matches its hash server-side. If it's fine, you can use the session to remember that a user is logged in and check that value whenever they request a different page

chrome zinc Nov 7, 2021, 10:16 AM

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just go to the page and copy it

novel hull Nov 7, 2021, 10:22 AM

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No particular place, just googled a bunch

left echo Nov 7, 2021, 10:25 AM

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how can I close help channel? .close doesn't work for me

novel hull Nov 7, 2021, 10:25 AM

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You mean !close?

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Also, is it yours?

left echo Nov 7, 2021, 10:26 AM

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novel hull You mean `!close`?

that helped. thanks

sullen elm Nov 7, 2021, 10:34 AM

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!mute 411447768612339712

obtuse swallowBOT Nov 7, 2021, 10:34 AM

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:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied mute to @hot palm until <t:1636284858:f> (59 minutes and 59 seconds).

sullen elm Nov 7, 2021, 10:34 AM

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!pban 411447768612339712 nitro scam

obtuse swallowBOT Nov 7, 2021, 10:34 AM

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:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied purge ban to @hot palm permanently.

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 10:37 AM

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omg is it the real Michael Evergreen???

quasi cape Nov 7, 2021, 10:50 AM

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lol

sonic crypt Nov 7, 2021, 11:06 AM

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guess ill use gitbook for making some docs

neat sparrow Nov 7, 2021, 11:16 AM

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cookie clickers are basically just linear equation utilizers

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the higher the levels, the longer it takes to progress

pseudo pivot Nov 7, 2021, 11:33 AM

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Guys will I gain enough knowledge by learning C# after learning C++ and Java?

deep heath Nov 7, 2021, 11:56 AM

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pseudo pivot Guys will I gain enough knowledge by learning C# after learning C++ and Java?

What do you mean by "enough knowledge"?

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Imo there's no gain to just learning another language without any direction (certain libs or new tools in that language). It's just different syntax then. 🤷

static trout Nov 7, 2021, 11:58 AM

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i have a question

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how many end crystals do you need to one cycle the ender dragon

cursive agate Nov 7, 2021, 12:02 PM

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enough knowledge is becoming god

cursive agate Nov 7, 2021, 12:02 PM

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static trout how many end crystals do you need to one cycle the ender dragon

@oak hemlock answer this you minecraft person

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 12:07 PM

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static trout how many end crystals do you need to one cycle the ender dragon

4

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wait am I confused

static trout Nov 7, 2021, 12:08 PM

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not to respawn

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 12:08 PM

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what does "one cycle" mean

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kill?

static trout Nov 7, 2021, 12:08 PM

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kill in a single perch

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for beds its like 5-6

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does anybody know for end crystals tho

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 12:09 PM

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hard to say

pastel moss Nov 7, 2021, 12:09 PM

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try it? i doubt ppl try it with end crystals

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beds are cheap

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 12:09 PM

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I would guess... 3 but that doesn't sound right

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looking at the numbers, that is my guess

pastel moss Nov 7, 2021, 12:10 PM

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end crystals do more damage?

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 12:10 PM

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oh yeah. far more

static trout Nov 7, 2021, 12:13 PM

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pastel moss beds are cheap

beds arent allowed for end fight in our smp apparently

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pretty sure he missed the fact that end crystals exist

pastel moss Nov 7, 2021, 12:14 PM

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just do it with good ol bows and swords then lol

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 12:14 PM

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static trout pretty sure he missed the fact that end crystals exist

good old TNT

royal jetty Nov 7, 2021, 12:14 PM

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static trout beds arent allowed for end fight in our smp apparently

you have your own smp?

pastel moss Nov 7, 2021, 12:14 PM

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oak hemlock good old TNT

creeper farms are slow ;-;

static trout Nov 7, 2021, 12:15 PM

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royal jetty you have your own smp?

i mean yes with my friends
smp is survival multiplayer == when you play with friends

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 12:15 PM

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static trout i mean yes with my friends smp is survival multiplayer == when you play with fri...

not really tbh

static trout Nov 7, 2021, 12:15 PM

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oak hemlock not really tbh

wdym

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 12:15 PM

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I mean it's not strictly friends

royal jetty Nov 7, 2021, 12:15 PM

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oh I thought it's like a server thing

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 12:15 PM

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SMP can just be any old vanilla Minecraft server

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with people you've never met

pastel moss Nov 7, 2021, 12:15 PM

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or modded lol

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 12:16 PM

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oh true \🤔

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I meant like without different game modes

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survival Minecraft

pastel moss Nov 7, 2021, 12:16 PM

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\👀

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 12:16 PM

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yes

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Windows user spotted

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so uh

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I couldn't find my flash drive

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I found an old one tied to a lanyard that's 2 GB

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I'm trying to install KDE Neon, so I go to balena to see how big it is

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1.97 GB :faint:

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If this works, I got away with a 0.03 GB wiggle room

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Hey, it booted

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I think I got lucky for once

fathom yew Nov 7, 2021, 12:48 PM

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Damn Pop!_OS windows tiling manager is so great. Bye bye Ubuntu and welcome Pop!_OS

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whoa it even has stacking windows! Gotta be so useful for me because I don't have a monitor big enough lemon_hyperpleased

pastel moss Nov 7, 2021, 12:51 PM

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what's special about it?

fathom yew Nov 7, 2021, 12:51 PM

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about stacking windows?

pastel moss Nov 7, 2021, 12:51 PM

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yeah and tiling wm

sick olive Nov 7, 2021, 12:52 PM

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#help-orange

fathom yew Nov 7, 2021, 12:53 PM

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pastel moss yeah and tiling wm

well, just watch these:
https://youtu.be/-fltwBKsMY0
https://youtu.be/1TSdFWY_U9A

pastel moss Nov 7, 2021, 12:55 PM

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fathom yew well, just watch these: <https://youtu.be/-fltwBKsMY0> <https://youtu.be/1TSdFWY...

yeah i watched them, it's cool but can't you get the functionality on ubuntu by configuring a wm like awesome?

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no offense, changing the os just for the wm seems a bit weird imho

fathom yew Nov 7, 2021, 12:55 PM

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no no, not just the wm...

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a lot many other reasons

pastel moss Nov 7, 2021, 12:56 PM

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ah

fathom yew Nov 7, 2021, 12:57 PM

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pastel moss no offense, changing the os just for the wm seems a bit weird imho

actually I had to remove kubuntu because it was kind of hustle to use it because I was not able to get used to the keybindings and all that so I am just looking for some better distro instead of ubuntu if by chance I don't miss it.

pastel moss Nov 7, 2021, 12:59 PM

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fair, although keybinds can be customized too ig

chrome zinc Nov 7, 2021, 1:00 PM

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fathom yew Nov 7, 2021, 1:00 PM

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pastel moss fair, although keybinds can be customized too ig

yeah but another thing was that after using kubuntu for sometime, I had to restart for something. And then I saw a lot of my changes were gone and they took a lot of time, patience and effort so I just ended it there

chrome zinc Nov 7, 2021, 1:00 PM

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just casual java coding while just listening to podcasts

fathom yew Nov 7, 2021, 1:01 PM

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good luck 😄 !

pastel moss Nov 7, 2021, 1:04 PM

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fathom yew yeah but another thing was that after using kubuntu for sometime, I had to resta...

damn

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this is why i don't create configs, it's totally not because i can't come up with good designs 😆

fathom yew Nov 7, 2021, 1:05 PM

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lmao

Lies
~@aboo

pastel moss Nov 7, 2021, 1:07 PM

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btw if you want a good tiling engine, check out https://material-shell.com/

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i liked it (it has an awesome wm port too)

fathom yew Nov 7, 2021, 1:08 PM

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hmmm no thanks, ig I am simply going with pop os rn

pastel moss Nov 7, 2021, 1:08 PM

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yeah, popOS's seems cool

chrome zinc Nov 7, 2021, 1:10 PM

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ok and already i don't get anything

fathom yew Nov 7, 2021, 1:11 PM

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pastel moss yeah, popOS's seems cool

also I like the default dock (even though polybar is cooler) so I will not have to customize it, that'll save some of my time and I really losing patience because installing distros and then customizing them so it'll be really helpful 😂

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 1:13 PM

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oh yes. henlo from KDE Neon

fathom yew Nov 7, 2021, 1:14 PM

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"henlo"

dusty aspen Nov 7, 2021, 1:15 PM

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henlo is so fun to say

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so is "hiylo"

fathom yew Nov 7, 2021, 1:15 PM

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oh, also hey there @oak hemlock !

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 1:15 PM

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howdy

dusty aspen Nov 7, 2021, 1:16 PM

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Risen, I may have asked you this before, but what are your preferred pronouns?

fathom yew Nov 7, 2021, 1:16 PM

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lol talking like this from different os gives me vibes of talking inter-planet (maybe because I have a space themed wallpaper 🤷‍♂️ )

fathom yew Nov 7, 2021, 1:16 PM

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dusty aspen Risen, I may have asked you this before, but what are your preferred pronouns?

he/him (because I'm male)

dusty aspen Nov 7, 2021, 1:16 PM

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okie

burnt tinsel Nov 7, 2021, 1:17 PM

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hi

dusty aspen Nov 7, 2021, 1:17 PM

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hello arukovic

burnt tinsel Nov 7, 2021, 1:17 PM

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I always lurk around here

fathom yew Nov 7, 2021, 1:18 PM

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this is the habitat of a lot of ppl (also me even though I try to be in #python-discussion to help beginners)

burnt tinsel Nov 7, 2021, 1:18 PM

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Same, I usually am the most active here and other off-topic channels

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I am the least active in #python-discussion

fathom yew Nov 7, 2021, 1:20 PM

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is polybar available in popos?

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 1:20 PM

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stinky Pop!_OS :/

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more like... Poop!_OS :/

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that was a terrible joke

fathom yew Nov 7, 2021, 1:22 PM

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😢

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why!!!!!!???????????

lean pebble Nov 7, 2021, 1:22 PM

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General question here but suppose I have a bunch of HTML files as output. What's the easiest way for me to do a search on those HTML output locally, on my computer, without sending the HTMLs onto the web

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Something like readthedocs but locally. It seems they use ElasticSearch but I don't know if I will/can implement it

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Something like this (the 1st section)
https://www.doxygen.nl/manual/searching.html
But I'm not using doxygen (at least not directly)

Doxygen Manual: Searching

Source code documentation and analysis tool

fathom yew Nov 7, 2021, 1:24 PM

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~ @obtuse swallow
📨 ok_handbutflipped Muted @oak hemlock until Sunday, 7 November 18:59 (4 minutes and 59 seconds) Reason: Talking against Lord @fathom yew.

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 1:24 PM

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oh yes

lean pebble Nov 7, 2021, 1:26 PM

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Basically this is the StackO
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/1357173/full-text-search-for-static-html-files-on-cd-rom-via-javascript
lol the answer dates

Stack Overflow

Full-text search for static HTML files on CD-Rom via javascript

I will be delivering a set of static HTML pages on CD-Rom; these pages need to be fully viewable with no Internet access whatsoever.

I'd like to provide a full-text search (Lucene-like) for the co...

fathom yew Nov 7, 2021, 1:27 PM

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should I install pop os latest (21.04) or LTS (20.04)?

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 1:27 PM

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Install KDE Neon like I did \😩

lean pebble Nov 7, 2021, 1:27 PM

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Right, I have this for comparison, sounds like fuse.js time
https://www.npmtrends.com/fuse.js-vs-lunr-vs-search-index

fuse.js vs lunr vs search-index | npm trends

Compare npm package download statistics over time: fuse.js vs lunr vs search-index

lean pebble Nov 7, 2021, 1:28 PM

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fathom yew should I install pop os latest (21.04) or LTS (20.04)?

Doesn't that depend on you? Do you like stable or do you like things to break?

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 1:28 PM

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fathom yew Nov 7, 2021, 1:28 PM

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uhhh had enough time with breaking os 😢 u r right. LTS there we go!

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 1:28 PM

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KDE Neon \😤

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Pop!_OS is stinky

fathom yew Nov 7, 2021, 1:29 PM

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oak hemlock

lol Microsoft edge xD even windows guys dont use it lmao 🤣

lean pebble Nov 7, 2021, 1:29 PM

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Actually I'd go for 21, since it probably works.
But LTS with PPAs for latest is probably the midway workable compromise

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 1:29 PM

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Microsoft Edge is one of the best browsers

lean pebble Nov 7, 2021, 1:29 PM

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Basically LTS sucks since GCC is literally version 7777-ages-ago

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 1:29 PM

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lean pebble Actually I'd go for 21, since it probably works. But LTS with PPAs for latest is...

idk if I'd ever recommend anyone use non-LTS tbh

lean pebble Nov 7, 2021, 1:30 PM

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oak hemlock Microsoft Edge is one of the best browsers

Just get chromium tbh. I want to switch to chromium soon. Especially if the benchmarks on FF are true

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 1:30 PM

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nah

lean pebble Nov 7, 2021, 1:30 PM

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Not sure if all my extensions port over easily though

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 1:30 PM

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I like the Microsoft sync

fathom yew Nov 7, 2021, 1:30 PM

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oak hemlock Pop!_OS is stinky

Microsoft edge is stinky, Microfart edge

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 1:30 PM

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among other things

lean pebble Nov 7, 2021, 1:30 PM

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oak hemlock idk if I'd ever recommend anyone use non-LTS tbh

LTS is on Py3.8 b R u H

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 1:30 PM

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Microsoft Edge performs so well

fathom yew Nov 7, 2021, 1:30 PM

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Lies

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 1:30 PM

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lean pebble LTS is on Py3.8 b R u H

Even if it was using 3.10, it'd not be recommended that you use it

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 1:31 PM

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fathom yew Lies

It and Firefox perform the best

fathom yew Nov 7, 2021, 1:31 PM

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anyways bye guys cya!

fathom yew Nov 7, 2021, 1:31 PM

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oak hemlock It and Firefox perform the best

yes, I agree with firefox but not microsoft edge

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 1:31 PM

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I'm not kidding when I say Microsoft Edge is actually a good browser

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y'all just biased against Microsoft

fathom yew Nov 7, 2021, 1:31 PM

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oak hemlock I'm not kidding when I say Microsoft Edge is actually a good browser

hmm you are making me thinking to try it

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 1:31 PM

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and/or old Microsoft Edge

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 1:32 PM

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oak hemlock Even if it was using 3.10, it'd not be recommended that you use it

anyways, this is when we rejoice at the existence of pyenv

fathom yew Nov 7, 2021, 1:33 PM

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can I use my google account in it? because I like edge but I don't think I can use my google acc and I have everything in it

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and is the download speed better in microsoft edge?

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 1:33 PM

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fathom yew can I use my google account in it? because I like edge but I don't think I can u...

You can use your Google account on any browser

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 1:33 PM

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fathom yew and is the download speed better in microsoft edge?

I wouldn't think so

lean pebble Nov 7, 2021, 1:34 PM

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oak hemlock Even if it was using 3.10, it'd not be recommended that you use it

gcc -v
gcc version 9.3.0 (Ubuntu 9.3.0-17ubuntu1~20.04)
python3 -V
Python 3.8.10
julia -v
julia version 1.4.1
R --version
R version 3.6.3 (2020-02-29) -- "Holding the Windsock"

Latest releases

GCC 11.2 released [2021-07-28]
Monday, October 4, 2021 - Python 3.10.0 is available
[Julia] Current stable release: v1.6.3 (Sep 23, 2021)
R version 4.1.2 (Bird Hippie) has been released on 2021-11-01.

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 1:35 PM

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lean pebble ``` gcc -v gcc version 9.3.0 (Ubuntu 9.3.0-17ubuntu1~20.04) python3 -V Python 3....

It matters very little to most people

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More software will support 20.04 compared to 21.04

lean pebble Nov 7, 2021, 1:35 PM

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gcc 10/11 is kinda important if you like C++20

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 1:35 PM

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Despite having later software, less things will probably work

lean pebble Nov 7, 2021, 1:35 PM

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Py3.10 has amazing easy-of-coding features

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 1:35 PM

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Those are system versions

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you don't generally want to tinker with them regardless

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since they're integral

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for Python, a great solution is installing pyenv and installing a later version through that

lean pebble Nov 7, 2021, 1:36 PM

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Why is it so hard for me to get a dev environment that's not dated a eon ago?

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 1:36 PM

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Then go for something like openSUSE Tumbleweed

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or also check out https://github.com/asdf-vm/asdf

GitHub

GitHub - asdf-vm/asdf: Extendable version manager with support for ...

Extendable version manager with support for Ruby, Node.js, Elixir, Erlang & more - GitHub - asdf-vm/asdf: Extendable version manager with support for Ruby, Node.js, Elixir, Erlang & more

obtuse swallowBOT Nov 7, 2021, 1:37 PM

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@dry cypress Please don't try to ping @everyone or @here. Your message has been removed. If you believe this was a mistake, please let staff know!

lean pebble Nov 7, 2021, 1:37 PM

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oak hemlock Then go for something like openSUSE Tumbleweed

Is there an image for linux distros I can use with Oracle's VMs?

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 1:37 PM

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uh

lean pebble Nov 7, 2021, 1:37 PM

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Actually, where do I find linux distros other than the normie ones Oracle provides

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 1:37 PM

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all of them?

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idk, I don't mess with VMs

lean pebble Nov 7, 2021, 1:38 PM

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Not all, some of the alternatives you list here

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Oracle only provides Ubuntu and their own Oracle

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I think if you can get an image into their registry you can use it

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Not sure how nicely they'd play with outside images

lean pebble Nov 7, 2021, 1:39 PM

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oak hemlock idk, I don't mess with VMs

You should get an oracle one. Their AMD is always available. The nice FLEX-based ones well...have weird availability

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 1:39 PM

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I always use um

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KVMs

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do y'all ever copy a command and then accidentally end up doing something like git clone git clone

lean pebble Nov 7, 2021, 1:40 PM

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I think that's common

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 1:42 PM

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lol

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well, I think I like asdf more compared to pyenv ngl

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based on installation alone

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once it was installed, all I had to do was asdf plugin add python and asdf install python 3.10.0

static trout Nov 7, 2021, 1:56 PM

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what is asdf

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it sounds like someone just spammed the keyboard

quasi cape Nov 7, 2021, 2:07 PM

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jkl;

copper nimbus Nov 7, 2021, 2:17 PM

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lol

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it was just called Llanfairpwllgwyngyll at first

sick olive Nov 7, 2021, 2:30 PM

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just received something I ordered a year ago

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kinda odd

copper nimbus Nov 7, 2021, 2:32 PM

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yes.

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 2:32 PM

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what on Earth

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legion-5% micro ~/.zshrc
2021/11/07 07:32:44 error opening file: open log.txt: permission denied

copper nimbus Nov 7, 2021, 2:34 PM

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imagine

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 2:35 PM

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I don't understand

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nvm guess it was just a micro bug

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I installed manually and it works fine

mortal hull Nov 7, 2021, 2:47 PM

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what's micro. is that like nano

thick widget Nov 7, 2021, 2:48 PM

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nano but bigger

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like normal size, mini, micro, nano (ig)

dusky inlet Nov 7, 2021, 2:49 PM

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centi

deep heath Nov 7, 2021, 2:50 PM

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oak hemlock ```sh legion-5% micro ~/.zshrc 2021/11/07 07:32:44 error opening file: open log....

Omg, I hate this

pliant canyon Nov 7, 2021, 2:50 PM

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oak hemlock ```sh legion-5% micro ~/.zshrc 2021/11/07 07:32:44 error opening file: open log....

sudo 😂

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 2:50 PM

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mortal hull what's micro. is that like nano

yep

deep heath Nov 7, 2021, 2:50 PM

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I mean... I recently spent too much debugging code that has this exact problem

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Update changed/'fixed' some permissions and I didn't have access as my usual ssh user to previous place where I was keeping logs

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 2:52 PM

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I'm glad the only permissions I've had to tinker with are execute

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so just chmod +x foo

thick widget Nov 7, 2021, 2:52 PM

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pliant canyon sudo 😂

😂

sick olive Nov 7, 2021, 2:52 PM

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should i be concerned

thick widget Nov 7, 2021, 2:53 PM

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sick olive should i be concerned

obviously

sick olive Nov 7, 2021, 2:53 PM

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oh

thick widget Nov 7, 2021, 2:53 PM

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because thats either a 4 year old or a 40 year old

sick olive Nov 7, 2021, 2:53 PM

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he says hes 15

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lemon_eyes

thick widget Nov 7, 2021, 2:53 PM

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mhm

thick widget Nov 7, 2021, 2:54 PM

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sick olive he says hes 15

11 years ago that person was 4

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lets go back to 2010 and be hapi

sick olive Nov 7, 2021, 2:54 PM

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maybe hes too mature that he became like a 40 year pld

thick widget Nov 7, 2021, 2:54 PM

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because all dreamstans then were toddlers

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 2:55 PM

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pliant canyon sudo 😂

I shouldn't need to use sudo here, which is why it's problematic

royal jetty Nov 7, 2021, 2:55 PM

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what is best way to learn vocabulary of new language? I have been trying to learn them by: writing, listening, reading out loud but none of them work. It's been 2 days and I can't remember ~20 words (I have to learn them in about 1hour :/)

pliant canyon Nov 7, 2021, 2:56 PM

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oak hemlock I shouldn't need to use `sudo` here, which is why it's problematic

eys i understand i was just kidding

deep heath Nov 7, 2021, 2:56 PM

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deep heath Update changed/'fixed' some permissions and I didn't have access as my usual ssh...

So I fixed stuff to local file... But then something was not working.
Test in the gui showed not permission issues or wrong path but wrong exit code. Logs showed nothing.
Only later I realised that if code is executed from the tool, it gets a different user and my current ('fixed') log place doesn't have x/w for other users. The old place was correct for that user.
Annoying to debug because nothing appeared in the freaking log

oak hemlock Nov 7, 2021, 2:56 PM

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pliant canyon eys i understand i was just kidding

oh. lol

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y'know so far, KDE Neon has had none of the problems I was worried about

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NVIDIA driver installed ezpz, Wayland seems to work fine, Unity login actually works out of the box (on TW, xdg-open was being dumb >:c)

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oh. such a shame. it's broken on KDE Neon, too.

royal jetty Nov 7, 2021, 3:03 PM

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I'm so fked up again

thick widget Nov 7, 2021, 3:04 PM

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royal jetty I'm so fked up again

what happened?

royal jetty Nov 7, 2021, 3:04 PM

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I have to learn ~20 words in Swedish and I can't remember them and I alrd failed 1 word test

thick widget Nov 7, 2021, 3:04 PM

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oh damn

royal jetty Nov 7, 2021, 3:05 PM

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if I fail another I have to re take the class next year

thick widget Nov 7, 2021, 3:05 PM

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oh god