ot0-no-stealth-portals-please

[copper nimbus]

Swedish Cucumber Crash Course
Gurka = cucumber
Gurkan = the cucumber
Gurkor = cucumbers
Gurkorna = the cucumbers

4 ez words

[royal jetty]

And I have to learn verbs...

[copper nimbus]

bruh

[royal jetty]

and the one that don't follow any rule

[copper nimbus]

welp work hard and good luck

[royal jetty]

been trying for 2 days (yes 2 days for 20 words that I can't still remember)

[sick olive]

🤪

[royal jetty]

and I have to write a essay for tomorrow as well + read for physics exam fk

[copper nimbus]

tip #1: get off discord

[fierce adder]

if i have ram thats 2933 and 3200 together, will it have any effects?

my current ram is 2933 and im wondering if i should a 3200mhz or 2933mhz, as the 3200 one is 5 dollars more

[royal jetty]

I mean I kind of know I will fail them so I can't help myself :/

[copper nimbus]

try

[royal jetty]

I can write the essay in 20 minutes + I could cheat the physics exam

[copper nimbus]

do what you can to save your 1 year

[royal jetty]

that won't safe me from second year of Swedish

[lament seal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1TnzCiUSI0

Swedish?

[royal jetty]

essay wont fail me nor will Physics but Swedish will

[lament seal]

are you swedish

[royal jetty]

I'm from Finland so I have to learn Swedish even if I did not want to

[lament seal]

that sucks

im swedish

[cursive agate]

@analog carbon are u swedish or just chinese?

[royal jetty]

because it's a second language that less than 10% speaks in here

[lament seal]

my country used to rule yours until russia kidnapped you

stopid russia

[cursive agate]

ha?

who u talkin to

[lament seal]

class [weird letters]

[royal jetty]

class cyberweapon*

[lament seal]

ohh

he/she?

[royal jetty]

how can I use python to not let me use discord

[lament seal]

if discord.running:
exit(discord)

idk

[copper nimbus]

uninstall discord

[lament seal]

you could use batch files

[copper nimbus]

that's the easiest way

[royal jetty]

But web version :/

[lament seal]

.bat

[copper nimbus]

block it

[royal jetty]

how tho

[lament seal]

delete acc

[royal jetty]

too far

[lament seal]

make a script that senses what sites you on and if any of them starts with discord: close it

[copper nimbus]

BlockSite extension

[cursive agate]

ban your mom

[pliant canyon]

bruh

[copper nimbus]

bruh what??

[royal jetty]

What the ..

[royal jetty]

It lets to unblock as well?

[copper nimbus]

you can remove the site from block list

[royal jetty]

Oh good

[sick olive]

i always forget how to solve those

[pliant canyon]

s=ut-(g/2)t^2

[copper nimbus]

and stick to one convention for the direction to be positive or negative

I usually take upwards positive but it's personal preference

[sick olive]

u is V_i ?

[pliant canyon]

yes

[copper nimbus]

initial velocity yes

[sick olive]

i mean , we took those equations before ,

[cursive agate]

me just taking the differentiation

[wild herald]

is inheritance useful in OOP?

[sick olive]

yes

[sick olive]

oh

[sick olive]

wait this is confusing

[copper nimbus]

what is confusing?

[sick olive]

they want the displacement which is starting point - ending point

[copper nimbus]

why not write s as displacement

[sick olive]

uh that wasn't me who wrote them

he uses delta X

[copper nimbus]

it is delta x but still

[solid prawn]

what do you think delta x means

[sick olive]

d_x = x_f - x_i

[ocean walrus]

Hi :D

[sick olive]

hello

[solid prawn]

yes

and whats x_f and x_i

[fast viper]

If I had to guess, i is initial, f is final

[quasi cape]

position

[fast viper]

It's a strange way to write out del x into x f - xi

[quasi cape]

btw we usually use s

generally objects displaces from 0

[solid prawn]

well

x is quite common as the position variable too

esp when its motion in one dimension

[thick widget]

my fard logic says 9.81

[sick olive]

its 24.5

if i'm correct

[thick widget]

probably are

anyway

[sick olive]

yeah its

but i need explain

i used Delta_x = V_i*T + 1/2 at^2

and got 24.5 + 4.905

[thick widget]

coded without music today and heard my magnificent keyboard sounds

[sick olive]

so im hella new to manjaro

i wanna run on vm

should i do xfce or kde plasma

i just wanna try for general use

[sick olive]

its a freefall equation so i used the wrong formula

so vi*t is just 24.5 and g*t^2 is 24.5 - 9.81 = 14.69

but i never got half

so half of -9.81

which is -4.905

so 19.595

[sick olive]

which is B !

[midnight forge]

nice handwriting

[midnight forge]

do you not just deletus 9.81 from 24.5 or is my brain lagging

oh no, ignore, brain lagging

[sick olive]

my hand writing is worse , its my teachers

[sick olive]

cuz my teacher said , if you only write the answer i'll give u a 0 on that question and i need to show my work 😔

[midnight forge]

yeah, but that's reasonable

pretty sure the entire world needs you to show work

[sick olive]

yeah 😔

well since time is 1 we can just subtract straight away thanks for that info tbh

but wait

we had to get half of at^2

[dusty aspen]

sadly

[midnight forge]

but that's the velocity

24.5 - 9.81 would be the end velocity

[dusty aspen]

You shouldn't need to show work for simple subtraction

imo

[midnight forge]

it's not just subtraction, that's only getting the end vel and you still need a formula to get the position (or whatever displacement means) iirc

[sick olive]

that would give 14.69 which is wrong

[dusty aspen]

oh idk

[sick olive]

also thats not how you determine "end velocity"

V_f = vi + at

[midnight forge]

my bad, i might be wrong

[solid prawn]

that is exactly what this is

for t = 1 you get just that

[midnight forge]

me brain is lagging wtf

[midnight forge]

yeah exactly

[sick olive]

since its a free fall equation we would subtract them

[midnight forge]

it makes intuitive sense, deceleration of 9.81 per second^2 would give you 14.69 after 1 second

[sick olive]

oh , i think i didn't understand them much

[sick olive]

but hey , they dont want V_f

[solid prawn]

yes

[midnight forge]

V_f would be part of your formula determining the answer, right?

[pliant canyon]

close background apps

[sick olive]

i mean , the way i used , i didn't need V_f

[midnight forge]

something like (initial velocity + end velocity) / 2 * duration iirc

i might be wrong though

[sick olive]

why 2

[midnight forge]

to get the average

[sick olive]

not .5

oh

[midnight forge]

divide by 0.5?

that would be multiplying by 2, why would you do that

[undone storm]

why does ot start with 0 there are 9 numerals

[sick olive]

cuz index

[sick olive]

fair

[midnight forge]

hm? indices all start at zero (unless you're some programming language whose name i shall not say)

[undone storm]

bruh

i was kidding

[sick olive]

we are not lua

[midnight forge]

you have spoken the unspeakable.

[undone storm]

lua is unholy

cutei duck

[solid prawn]

julia has 1 based indexing too

[sick olive]

i mean , its more human to start from 1

since in the past times they couldn't figure out negative numbers so i mostly assume they wouldn't expect something to be equal to 0

[undone storm]

were not in the past time

[sick olive]

thats why we start from 0

we ? i meant programming languages

[opal goblet]

GUYS WHAT IS A PLACEHOLDER VARIABLE

[sick olive]

x = 12
x is a placeholder for 12

wait i might be wrong

[undone storm]

wrong channel very not allowed @mude put in prison

[sick olive]

lua is good if it had some slightly better decisions

[opal goblet]

@sick olive thank you euclid

[sick olive]

lua is overly focused on being used as an extension language

[opal goblet]

i think you are correct

[sick olive]

meaning programmers find it harder

[opal goblet]

i love you man

[undone storm]

im sorry dude

but thats kinda.....

GAYYYYYYY

[sick olive]

Placeholder variables are nontranslatable text strings that stand in for a term or phrase that is used multiple times, or represents a term that shouldn't be translated, such as an official product name. ... A placeholder variable is usually delimited by non-letter characters, such as \+ and \- . i found this on google

anyway i have a beautiful idea

[opal goblet]

wait

[sick olive]

ohhhhh

[opal goblet]

so how do i use them

[sick olive]

this

a wikipedia shmup

i was wrong.

can you give an example of it beign used

[sick olive]

takes parts from wikipedia, turns them into patterns

!e

adj = 'and smart'
print('Hakosh is cool {} <- this is a place holder'.format(adj))```

[obtuse swallow]

@sick olive :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

Hakosh is cool and smart <- this is a place holder

[sick olive]

ah ok

why do they exist

[opal goblet]

what is their function

[glad grove]

So that you can add a value in at a later point in time

[sick olive]

ah

[glad grove]

Like a template

[sick olive]

oh ok

[opal goblet]

how do i add them in tho?

[sick olive]

wdym

[opal goblet]

HOLD UP

can i just send my school assignment in here

[sick olive]

you can use py {} and if your using anything above 3.6 i suggest using string formatting

[sick olive]

no, we don't do just do homework for people. we'll help you learn but we don't do the tasks.

wrong one

[obtuse swallow]

Rules

4. Use English to the best of your ability. Be polite if someone speaks English imperfectly.

[glad grove]

If you need help with an assignment, it’s best to ask in a help channel by reading #❓｜how-to-get-help . You won’t be spoon fed though

[sick olive]

!rule 8 read this goose

[obtuse swallow]

Rules

8. Do not help with ongoing exams. When helping with homework, help people learn how to do the assignment without doing it for them.

[sick olive]

yeah ik

i edited it

[teal storm]

hello

i am back

[sick olive]

hello back

im goose

[teal storm]

i am now going to use haskell to see if the definition for that one person's sequence i gave last night was correct

[sick olive]

its blue!

[teal storm]

broh what

[pliant canyon]

trick question its actually "18"

[teal storm]

let's see if i can find

mm yes here is the sequence

and here is what i said the definition probably was

ok

testing time :>

hmm

apparently not

either that or my haskell code is bad

[sick olive]

hi people

[teal storm]

let's try in python

[simple latch]

@white flicker thanks so much for your help, it worked!

[white flicker]

💐

[glad grove]

Hello! Thanks for the server boost

[sick olive]

np

[sick olive]

well according to RBG it should be red and some blue with green

[teal storm]

oh waitr

i didn't include the floor thing in my uh

haskel code

lol

[midnight forge]

faith in humanity annihilated

[sick olive]

maybe its for foreign learners so they can practice their knowledge with colors

[midnight forge]

the more you know ™️

[sick olive]

tbh i have all my passwords in random files i shall put them in a database and maybe add an auto password generator

[quasi cape]

thats why its all perceptions ™️

may i also add up "you exist because your brain think you do"

👀

thats a common attribute of quora smh

[quick hull]

[teal storm]

no the answer is technically correct it's just useless and unhelpful

color is not a property though

color isn't real

it is a social construct

well

it's somewhere between a social construct and a perceptual thing but it's definitely not real

no, color describes how our brains interpret the way our eyes interpret the wavelenths of light

which varies from person to person and from culture to culture

their answer is technically correct

i agree that it's useless and unhelpful

but it isn't wrong

or at least, it is correct in some sense

though there are other senses in which it is incorrect

[mortal hull]

it's correct for some definition of correctness

[dusty aspen]

isn't everything though?

or at least almost everything

[mortal hull]

yes

just define it true by axiom

[sick olive]

orange does have a colour, its just that the perception of colour is a qualia. which don't exist to anyone other then yourself.

candles do smell, but your perception of it is not an intrisic part of the univese, or even of humanity.

it is instead entirely unique and entirely impossible to interpret.

until we can discover the cause of consciousness, we don't know.

since consciousness is not shared and with our current knowledge of science we have no way of interpereting other peoples consciousness, its unknowable.

however, there's another way you could interpret the question.

as languages evolve the amount of colours we use to interpret things increase.

because we interpret everything in many different ways. for example, i have visual snow. there is some part in my brain that causes these differences. we have no way of knowing whether everyone has them, and it makes sense this difference in seeing things varies.

[rough marsh]

python server, thus python general chat

[sick olive]

we might, but its unlikely.

[rough marsh]

python python

[sick olive]

general general

[summer gust]

hi

[sick olive]

hello

[summer gust]

i need some help

[sick olive]

#❓｜how-to-get-help

[summer gust]

yeah

so, someone gifted me a gaming mouse, and idk which brand/model it is

[prime girder]

oh boy do i have the product for you

[summer gust]

its has RGb and extra buttons

[sick olive]

aight

[prime girder]

are you in windows or linux

[sick olive]

so
first of all, did it come with any labels or anything?

[summer gust]

so, which driver do i install?, without knowing model

[sick olive]

how much do you know about it

[prime girder]

windows should automatically install the drivers

[summer gust]

nope, it came in a box, but they just gave me a goddamn mouse

[sick olive]

yeah but still the man should know what mouse he has

[sick olive]

ok.

[summer gust]

my dad through away the box before it

[prime girder]

yes which you can do by googling the product id lol

[sick olive]

any logos or anything?

[summer gust]

nope

[sick olive]

might be worth taking it apart and seeing what labels the parts have

[summer gust]

its a generic design

[chrome zinc]

why isn't it working?

[summer gust]

nothing at the bottom

[sick olive]

weird that it wouldn't have a logo

[summer gust]

ok

[sick olive]

that is a logo

[prime girder]

wow would you look at that

[sick olive]

yes

[prime girder]

are you in windows rn

[summer gust]

yeah

[chrome zinc]

why doesn't it work?

[summer gust]

yeah 10

[chrome zinc]

also selecting the CD-rom option in the boot menu just redirects to the network boot

[prime girder]

ok, can you run Get-WmiObject -Class Win32_PointingDevice | Select-Object -Property * in Powershell

and look for something called PNPDeviceID

[pliant canyon]

why dont u reverse image search that mouse logo

[prime girder]

it will be in the form like USB\VID_{digits}&PID_{digits}&[etc]

[sick olive]

found this

[prime girder]

You can literally look up the vendor

[sick olive]

looks similar

[pliant canyon]

it does look simlar

[summer gust]

there is no logo thoo

[dusty aspen]

This thing is the logo

[pliant canyon]

there is

[sick olive]

thre is a log

[summer gust]

is that safe?

[prime girder]

yes it is safe

[pliant canyon]

yes

[sick olive]

why Win32 tho

[prime girder]

because that's the class?

[sick olive]

ok

lol

[prime girder]

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/cimwin32prov/win32-pointingdevice

[summer gust]

i got a whole bunch of shit

what do i indentify?

[sick olive]

"PointingDevice"

[prime girder]

look for a property called PNPDeviceID

[prime girder]

that's CIM, no?

[prime girder]

18F8 0F97

Looks like it's something like this

[summer gust]

okay where is the mouse thoo

[pliant canyon]

probably jut called mantis

[sick olive]

yeah

[prime girder]

the mouse is probably a knockoff

[sick olive]

yeah

poor mouse ):

[pliant canyon]

lol

[summer gust]

yes

[prime girder]

don't think you'll have a fun time going through sites to find it

[sick olive]

their mouse rn

[prime girder]

best to leave it as is, unless windows refuses to install drivers

if you haven't already, try running windows update

and accept “optional drivers” or whatever they're called

[glad grove]

Eat. An. Apple. 🍏

[summer gust]

yes

[glad grove]

You have sinned

[summer gust]

found

[glad grove]

Survival of the fittest

[prime girder]

Nice

[dusty aspen]

that phrase is about reproductive success, not strength smh

[pliant canyon]

.llol

[naive thunder]

fruits*

[sick olive]

if u fit go and walk 😎

[prime girder]

Then I'd be the last person standing! /s

[sick olive]

liberals smh /s

[summer gust]

@prime girder so, i can't control the RGB?

[glad grove]

I just did a 3 hour walk lol

[prime girder]

lel

[prime girder]

Probably not, most knockoffs rarely provide proprietary drivers

[sick olive]

do it again 😎 /s

[summer gust]

losss

[prime girder]

just get a regular mouse

[summer gust]

lemme just try corsair harpoon driver

[prime girder]

practicality over visuals smh /s

[prime girder]

no no no

don't try other drivers, try other mice

[sick olive]

some people can't afford it lol

[summer gust]

.... i can't afford that

I shall use other mouse drivers

[sick olive]

ik i was responding to kernel

[summer gust]

in which case, I shall be sad

[prime girder]

well, i don't know what they can or can't afford, but it's definitely not a good idea to try proprietary drivers not design for your mouse

i was just clarifying what Milky mentioned

^

[summer gust]

ikr

but f it

[sick olive]

yes.

[summer gust]

no wait. i ain't waiting 20 mins

[prime girder]

if the driver can somehow detect your mouse as a valid model for it, then idk

[summer gust]

its rgb

[prime girder]

make your own drivers

[summer gust]

there is only 1 led thingy

[sick olive]

hmm

[prime girder]

just make your own drivers. ez.

[summer gust]

....

[sick olive]

probably just got a sad mouse then, give it a blanket and feed it regularly

[summer gust]

yeah

[sick olive]

pat the mouse

[prime girder]

im kidding lol

but it “kind of” is, if you understand how the mouse works on a very very low level

or well, just any device in general

though that will be a lot of time & effort

[summer gust]

its so messed up it says it wired on the bottom

Chinese shit bro

[prime girder]

well, yes, i know, but i mean in general terms of creating drivers

if you understand how the mouse works, you can interact with it from software probably

probably since it's a knockoff

[summer gust]

yeahhhhh

its just going through all the lights colours

[prime girder]

but it's a mouse

it needs input

[sick olive]

moving it..?

[prime girder]

for... moving the cursor..?

it takes an input though

[sick olive]

yeah

[prime girder]

you moving it is the input

and the clicks/scroll are also input

[sick olive]

objection!
if it outs the in then you are the input since you control the output and the output controls the inputs. therefore, mouse don't need inputs!

[summer gust]

yessir

[prime girder]

well yes, on a software level it probably does only provide output

🅱️uddy

moving it IS the input on a hardware level

it has to expose that data

oh yeah of course lol

at least, this mouse

other more customisable mice can

[sick olive]

make your own mouse

[prime girder]

speaking of making

[sick olive]

honestly i dont really see the point of gaming mice and keyboards, basic office stuff works fine normally.

[summer gust]

yessir

[prime girder]

I can't wait to use an arduino that controls an LED strip based on data fed to it from games, in realtime

[summer gust]

my dad works at a office, he works in the IT department

prob got this for free while purchasing office stuff

[prime girder]

deth = bright red
kill = green
assist = purple
win = rainbow
loss = crimson red

no, rq shuts your computer down

[pliant canyon]

but colours dont exist

[prime girder]

they do for my eye

oh so you want me to bork the drive too

omw to brick it

[pliant canyon]

lol

[prime girder]

though I've always wanted to create a Kernel Extension for macOS

Something that's a meme

maybe the onii chan song lyrics

printed out in userspace

[sick olive]

hmm

hahaha funny

[pliant canyon]

lol

[sick olive]

i didnt realise you were responding to yourself sorry lmao

[prime girder]

[sick olive]

im sorry

im sorry...

[prime girder]

for... your loss..?

[sick olive]

yeah

[sick olive]

wah

[pliant canyon]

speed

did u use that gaming mouse

lol

[summer gust]

.....

[obtuse swallow]

Hey @sick olive!

It looks like you tried to attach file type(s) that we do not allow (.exe). We currently allow the following file types: .gif, .jpg, .jpeg, .mov, .mp4, .mpg, .png, .mp3, .wav, .ogg, .webm, .webp, .flac, .m4a.

Feel free to ask in #community-meta if you think this is a mistake.

[sick olive]

duck u

[summer gust]

not auto clicker

[prime girder]

y'all know the pomf pomf kimochi song

there's another song that's on the same tone, and idk if it's from the same artist, i can't remember it now even though i did 20 minutes ago

🅱️irus

[wintry copper]

!mute 848328549827346472 2h Trying to bypass our filters is not acceptable.

[obtuse swallow]

:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied mute to @sick olive until <t:1636317511:f> (1 hour and 59 minutes).

[summer gust]

lol

[pliant canyon]

goosed

[naive thunder]

Wait that word is forbidden?

[prime girder]

FOUND IT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6DNdop6pD8

[summer gust]

gtg

[lofty cypress]

itertools.groupby

[clear root]

I think this is just itertools.groupby

[lofty cypress]

https://docs.python.org/3/library/itertools.html#itertools.groupby

Theres literally an example in the docs

[prime girder]

well this looks like oneliner potential

[fast viper]

you dont have itertools? oh dear, uhm, what have you done

[lofty cypress]

Its a codekata

[fast viper]

oh

[lofty cypress]

Oh well, theres an example implementation in the docs, just mirror that

[fast viper]

well then sounds like they have a limited/botched python set up.

read the error message

[lofty cypress]

!e But anyway

print("".join(k for k, _ in __import__("itertools").groupby("AAABBBCCDDEEDAA")))

[obtuse swallow]

@lofty cypress :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

ABCDEDA

[lofty cypress]

Gottem

Codewars probably doesnt let you use the stdlib because apparently reimplementing the wheel over and over somehow makes you smarter

Because im onelining it

Also groupby returns 2 values, i only need one

[dusty aspen]

that's stupid af

If they want you to get smarter, they should give you something that might one day be useful to you

Not something that there are stdlib functions for

[prime girder]

just make your own function, it's p simple

practically a oneliner too lol

[lofty cypress]

Because they'd be out of business if you could one line everything with the python stdlib

[prime girder]

oh, i've been doing it wrong then /s

[dusty aspen]

Then they should just come up with better challenges

[lofty cypress]

Actually hard challenges are difficult to design

I would just go for mathsy shit tbh

Project euler, codechef type challenges

[dusty aspen]

that's true

[clear root]

codwars will allow you itertools

the bug seems to be that they are doing from itertools import groupby instead of import itertools

[pure veldt]

yo bros

who is good at UML class diagrams?

[clear root]

draw.io, lucidchart

[pure veldt]

ok but what about the concepts?

can someone quickly sketch something

[dusty aspen]

what's wrong with the former?

[lofty cypress]

When you do from imports the module you import from is del'd

[neat sparrow]

not much tbh

[dusty aspen]

ah

[neat sparrow]

It's better to use docs as you need them

Reading the whole thing won't help much

might give you some insight into useful standard library tools though

[dusty aspen]

build things. code. apply your knowledge.

[neat sparrow]

then when you need to reference a certain library, use the docs

Hmm, I'd say just build projects 🤷‍♂️

[clear root]

well, itertools.groupby won't work then

[neat sparrow]

do some tutorials, build up your skillset

[dusty aspen]

ah oops, I thought they just did groupby and it was the import fucking up

If I finish reading docs.python.org
Don't. It's a waste of your time, and it won't teach you anything. Well, at least, not much.

I built things.

[neat sparrow]

just build random stuff

automate things you would have to do manually

[neat sparrow]

"How to destroy a child"

[jagged pecan]

[vast marlin]

do you guys wanna hear an embarrasing story

[sinful lark]

new to investing, someone know why do people invest in index funds through third parties such as vanguard of fidelity instead of just buying the index fund as a whole?

https://i.imgur.com/qBW1ni0.png

[vast marlin]

i might have to remake my linux because I made a command that runs on login...its shutdown now...

[sinful lark]

or is there no "default" index fund you can buy? does it have to be through these companies such as fidelity/vanguagrd/Schwab?

ah i see, so these companies like vanguard (VFIAX) lets us buy into this list?

ah

ok thank you. I have some excess money and i am just learning about investing.

wanna be smart about what i buy

[neat sparrow]

One piece pacing is so baaaad

[empty flint]

Does anyone have experience with Python and linking a DB to it ?

[neat sparrow]

lmao

And you can't open the terminal at the boot menu?

[vast marlin]

i cant log in…

[neat sparrow]

yeah but linux kernels have a boot menu that lets you load up a terminal

which distro are you using?

[vast marlin]

i disabled mine

😢

[vast marlin]

manjaro but i literally fucked it so hard i need to remake it

im off to Arch

its a new life plays

[neat sparrow]

shit. I don't know what the real time is

fuck daylight savings lol. I have school tomorrow

shit

[hollow holly]

At least you sleep earlier and wake up earlier

[vast marlin]

no

[neat sparrow]

but that doesn't make sense lol

It's the same amount of sleep

At least for tonight

I'd say last night, everyone lost an hour

[sick olive]

sorry that I broke the rules earlier

I'm really sorry

[rough marsh]

I'd say we gained an hour of sleep

if you went to bed before 2:00am and didn't realize daylight savings was ending

[serene dagger]

nobody thinks of the gamers

[rough marsh]

hey u got an extra hour of gaming for "free"

[lofty cypress]

Technically you could do it yourself but it would cost so much more time wise and money wise
You would have to buy stock from every company in the index either through their brokers or through a 3rd party

[rough marsh]

I have a doctor friend

their hospital really screwed them over

in the fall when daylight savings ended her shift was lengthened an hour

and in the spring her off-time was reduced by an hour

she was so mad 😂

[sinful lark]

ahh yeah i figured, that sounds like a hassle.

[rough marsh]

I think if your brokerage account is with fidelity, the fidelity-specific s&p 500 would be free or have lesser fees. but don't quote me on that

look up expense ratios

Investors can buy and sell Vanguard mutual funds and ETFs through any number of brokerage firms and financial advisors.
If you buy directly through Vanguard, you may benefit from lower fees, better customer service, and additional product research.
Buying a Vanguard fund through a broker may involve commissions, loads, or other charges that are imposed by the broker, and not Vanguard directly—although this is not always the case. Check with your broker

https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/102815/can-you-buy-vanguard-funds-through-another-brokerage.asp

what's a global tracker

what's the ticker

we need a #pydis-bets

feat. The Mina Fool

[onyx ice]

YOLO and HODL some GME and BB

[livid vale]

#welcome to the server Daniel!

[unkempt hill]

which chat would I use for web automation?

[sick olive]

hello, i'm coding the generator for the images for an nft my friends making. is 10% of the profits a good number?

[ruby trellis]

hi

i do not have scoliosis just so you know

Hmmm

looks very canine

[sick olive]

huh

[ruby trellis]

do you just walk around taking photos of animals laying on your street from multiple angles or something?

[sick olive]

does look like a dog

[ruby trellis]

i mean yeah but

that dog looks dead.

[neat sparrow]

bruh that's cat

🤣 y'all are really calling a cat a dog

[ruby trellis]

What

that is a dog

[neat sparrow]

y'all tripping 🤦‍♂️

[ruby trellis]

what are you, some kind of Rust user?

not all animals are crab, you know.

[neat sparrow]

as expected from a C user

all jokes though*

[ruby trellis]

those are fighting words boy \s

[obtuse idol]

yes, cooldown

[neat sparrow]

what cooldown

we're good, just playing

[ruby trellis]

they decoded the HTML source code.

[neat sparrow]

It is actually possible to hack with html

inject an iframe into a website

[ruby trellis]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/692849605158764604/898402170192420924/image0.jpg

depends on the browser.

[neat sparrow]

"to convert and decode the code"

[obtuse idol]

I mean, he just saw a weird &

[neat sparrow]

bro sounds like a geezer who just did a quick 5 minute search on what html is

[ruby trellis]

cuz he is

[neat sparrow]

imagine bruteforcing trump's twitter account when his password was maga2020

[ruby trellis]

apple

[neat sparrow]

I wonder why no one thought of it lol

[ruby trellis]

WAS THAT HIS ACTUAL PASSWORD

[neat sparrow]

yes

[ruby trellis]

A

[hollow holly]

No way lmfao, that's way too insecure

[neat sparrow]

it actually was

[lofty cypress]

The guy probably doesnt even know what html is, he's just parroting what his advisors are telling him

[obtuse idol]

then a special force go to you house and shot you in the teeth

[ruby trellis]

you challenging me, the HTML decoder, to a game of security?

@hollow holly

watch your step boy

[neat sparrow]

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-twitter-password-breach-an-ethical-hack-says-dutch-government-2020-12

[ruby trellis]

@_@

[neat sparrow]

I should've done it, then deleted the account tbh

[ruby trellis]

damn right

[neat sparrow]

no

'cause not everyone has a dirty mind

[ruby trellis]

only one way to find out.

i have been banned twice from here. i beg to differ.

[rough marsh]

no we're pretty good on enforcing the rules imo

[neat sparrow]

welp

[ruby trellis]

yeah but way too strict.

[neat sparrow]

If I don't talk for a whole day, you know why

fr

[ruby trellis]

although i dunno what i expected from a partnered server.

[obtuse idol]

ok

[neat sparrow]

I got muted for like 4 days for mentioning that Candace was moaning in that squirrels in my pants video

[ruby trellis]

tfw

[neat sparrow]

the anime moan

I got banned on the lmms discord server for posting a meatcanyon video

The regular show one, that is.

So @sick olive Are you a senior in high school? I know a huge scholarship for programmers but don't want to mention it here because of the competition lol

bruh

[ruby trellis]

it is when a school pays you because you are awesome.

[neat sparrow]

yeah I'm looking at a $40,000 scholarship and a paid internship right now

[ruby trellis]

people who are not awesome do not get scholarships.

source: me

[neat sparrow]

no

[ruby trellis]

do i look American to you

[neat sparrow]

scholarships are everywhere

Some countries are just better though and let you go to college for free

[rough marsh]

scholarships can come from other orgs too, not just the schools themselves

[neat sparrow]

The American dream is a lie in some ways

[ruby trellis]

it would be cool to have a scholorship once i get have to start getting ready to go to university.

but that is also a lot of pressure.

[neat sparrow]

what grade u in?

yeah

[ruby trellis]

11th grade.

oh you were talking to system

[neat sparrow]

nah you

[ruby trellis]

ah, yeah. 11th.

[neat sparrow]

I replied yeah because I got confused with the names

[ruby trellis]

probably 18 or 17.

lot of old people here.

speaking of old people

i should go eat my pizza. goodbye.

was that a typo

[rough marsh]

ELI5, what are sockets?

[neat sparrow]

prolly not a good idea to disclose age on this server till you're stable as a person

[ruby trellis]

hold on

[neat sparrow]

stable as in, have a job, and a good identity

[dusty aspen]

Why not?

[neat sparrow]

idk

[dusty aspen]

What is someone going to do with your age

[neat sparrow]

been told that a lot

[ruby trellis]

sockets are basically a two-way 'node' on a network.

[rough marsh]

ELI4

[ruby trellis]

one socket can recieve, and send data across a network.

[lofty cypress]

Socket is where you plug your phone to charge

[neat sparrow]

I'm going to program a socket in rust using copilot lol

[dusty aspen]

I really doubt some random person is going to find you in a million people the same age

[ruby trellis]

you can talk between two computers using sockets.

[rough marsh]

is it weird that I've never heard of sockets til going thru the help channels here?

[ruby trellis]

yes. you are extremely weird.

[dusty aspen]

13+ or above the "age of consent" in your country

[dusty aspen]

if that's weird, I'm weird with you

[viral hull]

a socket is how you represent a connection to another computer (or another process on your computer) in a programming language.

[rough marsh]

that's an outlet silly

[ruby trellis]

how have you people never heard of sockets before.

[rough marsh]

[viral hull]

They're kind of like files, except that instead of the stuff you write to them being written to your disk, it's written over the network to whatever process is on the other side.

[lofty cypress]

A wall socket

[rough marsh]

name one thing you think I should know. 50/50 I won't know it

[ruby trellis]

if you are on a Unix or Unix-like, they are quite literally files, too.

well maybe not 'actually' files.

[hollow holly]

On another note, knowing what you don't know is a sign that you're good at what you're doing / intelligence

[ruby trellis]

rather the file system acts as an interface to them.

[hollow holly]

I think it's proven via the Dunning Kruger Effect

[rough marsh]

idk anything, that makes me super knowledgeable right?

[viral hull]

they're also assigned file descriptors on POSIX systems, so that's another way in which they're sort of kind of a file.

[ruby trellis]

socrates said a lot of stuff.

[ruby trellis]

ahhhhh POSIX.

[rough marsh]

ty tho

[ruby trellis]

the sweet sweet comfort of POSIX.

[ruby trellis]

no problem.

[viral hull]

there's different type of sockets, since there's different types of networks, and the socket knows what network protocol to speak - but 90% of the questions you see here are about TCP sockets, and the other 10% are about UDP sockets.

[ruby trellis]

honestly 'everything is a file' is the best feature of any operating system i have ever seen.

cya.

[ruby trellis]

what even is the difference, anyway?

[viral hull]

between TCP and UDP? TCP is reliable, and will attempt to retransmit something repeatedly in the hopes of getting it where it needs to go. UDP only tries once, and has no concept of a "connection" being established or torn down.

[ruby trellis]

oh right

thanks

[oak hemlock]

Don't some games use UDP to reduce lag or am I high

[neat sparrow]

Probably the latter. UDP is for single instant connections to fetch or send data, tcp works asynchronously I believe

[rough marsh]

I think the only time I've heard of TCP was when doing something email-related

[white flicker]

@dapper pike shorter code: ```py
import re

Namen = [
"Hella Wahnsinn(b)",
"Rainer Zufall (a)",
"Anna Bolika (b)",
"Axel Schweiss (a)",
"Klara Fall (b)",
"Ali Gator (a)",
"Bob Fahren (a)",
"Ellen Bogen (b)",
"Eva Kuierung (a)",
]

def split_suffix(name):
if m := re.search(r"(.*?) *(([a-z]+))", name):
return m.group(1), m.group(2)

names_by_suffix = {}
for n in Namen:
n, s = split_suffix(n)
if s not in names_by_suffix:
names_by_suffix[s] = []
names_by_suffix[s].append(n)

print(names_by_suffix)

this will work with (c), (d), etc

[dapper pike]

Oh okay that looks little bit more complicated didnt work with def until now 😄 will look at that code tho. Thanks a lot!

[neat sparrow]

nah I'm tripping, udp is faster I suppose @oak hemlock

I think some applications use both though

[oak hemlock]

I have no clue

I've never used anything other than TCP

[safe gyro]

@oak hemlock multiplayer online games definitely use UDP, it would be insane to use TCP for that.

[ruby trellis]

lemon rises from the dead just to correct someone.

[safe gyro]

it's not important that you receive every single packet, it's important that you receive them at the right time, otherwise you're gonna be lagging like crazy.. you don't care about a packet that should have arrived 5 seconds ago

you just care about what's happening right now

[oak hemlock]

That's what I figured, yeah

Good to know

[safe gyro]

but if I'm like, downloading a video, I do care that I receive every single byte, and those bytes all have to be in the right order, otherwise the video probably isn't gonna work.

[ruby trellis]

pirating videos is illegal \s

i imagine packet loss can still happen to some degree with TCP though.

just a lot rarer.

[safe gyro]

sure it does, but TCP will retry lost stuff

that's sort of the point

it will keep trying to get everything to you, in the right order. It might fail, but it won't deliver stuff in arbitrary order or skip certain parts.

[ruby trellis]

so if one part fails, everything else does?

🤨

[safe gyro]

yes. it's slower, but it guarantees delivery.

that's the point.

[oak hemlock]

I don't think it'd be any good to have a partial file

[hollow holly]

How long has the logo been changed for?

[ruby trellis]

it just changed i think.

[hollow holly]

ah yea

[sinful lark]

ahh interesting. Yeah I just recently heard about this expense ratio and fidelity has 0%. I am gonna buy a share of fidelity's snp500 index fund and a total market index fund.

[hollow holly]

I can't believe now I'm UTC - 5 from GMT

Daylight Savings -> Daylight Standard Time is weird

[rough marsh]

nice!

[sinful lark]

thx 😄

[rough marsh]

see you in 40 years as a multi-millionaire

[sinful lark]

hehe

[ruby trellis]

you sound like some FAANG employee.

[sinful lark]

also opened up a roth IRA account

i wish i learned about all of these sooner

feel like i have catching up to do @ 20 yo

[rough marsh]

dude you're great if you're starting now

[sinful lark]

oh really lol

thought i started too late

[rough marsh]

literally time is money

[sinful lark]

true true

[rough marsh]

are you employed or is this all on your own?

[sinful lark]

currently unemployed but i have excess cash i can invest with (thx to the government lol)

oooh wow

[rough marsh]

I'll see you next year when we have to do our taxes

[sinful lark]

oh god

[rough marsh]

I've never had funds in a non-retirement account before

[sinful lark]

do u have to put ur stock stuff in ur tax return?

profits and stuff?

[rough marsh]

ask me next year lol😂

there's smth about... short term and long tern capital gains

state laws will vary

[sinful lark]

ah

[rough marsh]

it will be fun

[sinful lark]

interesting

[rough marsh]

i think capital gains tax is a factor only when you sell the securities #IAmNotAnAccountant

dividends are probably reported, not sure what they do with that info tho https://www.nerdwallet.com/article/taxes/taxes-on-stocks

[wintry copper]

In the UK dividends above your personal allowance get added to your taxable income

Personal allowance is £2k atm

If your paying tax on under £10k dividends you can ask hmrc to change your tax code and it'll just come out of your paye

If it's over 10k you need to fill out a self assessment

[rough marsh]

who's hmrc?

o some UK gov thing

[viral hull]

h(er|is) majesty's revenue and customs

the UK IRS

[wintry copper]

Yea

[rough marsh]

actually

how quaint

[wintry copper]

Quite a few government bodies reference the crown

[viral hull]

rubbing in your functioning tax system

[wintry copper]

Lol

[viral hull]

the US's is a complete and total mess.

[wintry copper]

While I'm here, should I mention NHS?

[rough marsh]

i met someone here that works for the NHS

[viral hull]

the US's health care system is decent enough, except if you don't have insurance or you're insurance doesn't cover something.

[wintry copper]

I've only heard people say bad things about US tax code and processes

[rough marsh]

they were trying to use python for smth

[viral hull]

the quality of care is decent in the US, but the system by which we pay for care and insure against medical problems is a disaster.

[wintry copper]

I'm surprised that they're actually migrating away from excel lol

[dusty aspen]

NHS?

[wintry copper]

National health service

[dusty aspen]

ah, ok

[wintry copper]

It's the UKs socialised health care system

[rough marsh]

they were scraping this really weirdly formatted PDF from the NHS and said NHS wouldn't provide the data in any other format

[wintry copper]

Lol, reaks of a govtech contract

[safe gyro]

that does sound like the NHS

my experience has also been very govtech when dealing with them.

[sonic glacier]

only if you limit your measure to the care actually distributed, and ignore all the lost opportunities for care between insurance company bureaucracy and affordability and their effects on peoples' behavior

[safe gyro]

"use our API! it's a 17 year old .DLL file and there's no other way to integrate this service"

[wintry copper]

And the docs are written in Welsh

[safe gyro]

haha

yeah

[wintry copper]

[viral hull]

even incorporating lost opportunities, the US doesn't do so bad, as far as I know. We're nowhere near "best in the world", but we're somewhere in the pack of industrialized nations

worse than we should be considering the country is rich, but ...

[rough marsh]

rich in material wealth but maybe not in other things

rich in debt too

[rough marsh]

do you integrate with NHS stuff for work?

[safe gyro]

lil bit

maybe

[rough marsh]

o is it private lol 😁

[safe gyro]

not something I can go into detail about.

we do lots of stuff with the NHS, but I can't tell you what.

[rough marsh]

ok 🤫

[safe gyro]

https://soundcloud.com/lemonsaurusrex/hit-your-kid here's a rock opera I wrote instead

[rough marsh]

^ that's not nice lemon

[safe gyro]

you sound like someone who hasn't heard the song yet

[rough marsh]

I'm listening

let's see

[dusty aspen]

Your singing is wonderful lemon

[safe gyro]

no you're wonderful

recorded this today

[rough marsh]

with ur car 😂

i'd love to hear you live

[safe gyro]

sounds logistically unlikely

but let me know if you're in Norway

[rough marsh]

i will

[grave ridge]

python's normal again!!

[rough marsh]

pydis world tour

[serene dagger]

mmm @dim flicker i think someone wants to hit you with a car

[dim flicker]

Yay

[serene dagger]

good

[midnight forge]

colorful

[neat sparrow]

I hate daylight savings

Can't people just be content with the fact that the sun stays up or goes down earlier than before

[hollow holly]

I somewhat dislike it

[neat sparrow]

It's not like we need to spend the entire day working because the sun is out \s

[midnight forge]

challenge: find one instance in pydis where a helper, a mod, an admin and an owner sent single messages in that order (yellow -> orange -> redorange -> red)

[neat sparrow]

Just finished the amazon programmer challenge

Gonna be applying to tons of scholarships

[rough marsh]

leads & core devs & contributors too

to make it extra challenge

[midnight forge]

lol that'd be so hard to find

every single hierarchy in python in ascending order??? even harder lmao

[rough marsh]

maybe best chance would be #dev-contrib

[sick olive]

How about this, though

We petition such an instance

[static trout]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCSUmwP02T8
i now have a new fear of tiny streams
thanks, tom

[rough marsh]

oh partners! we forgot partners and boosters/patreon

[neat sparrow]

why did Sunday have to blow by so quickly

[limber scaffold]

google domains is great

[viscid flume]

old server pic sadge

[neat sparrow]

dang, $12 a year... nice

[hollow holly]

I found this

[neat sparrow]

now, to add the linode costs

[hollow holly]

4 different colors in this photo

[rough marsh]

i'm up for the challenge

I feel like finding one with helpers would be easy

richard being yellow now tho will make this trickier

[static trout]

richard is yellow now?

[rough marsh]

and d0rs4n

[dusty aspen]

I think the helper -> mod -> admin -> owner will be easy enough in staff channels

the others, much harder

[hollow holly]

They're still purple

[rough marsh]

oop nvm

[hollow holly]

This has a lot of colors

[limber scaffold]

lol

[hollow holly]

I'd argue there's also a lot of colors here

Yellow, beige, white, and red

[neat sparrow]

At this point, I think it's cheaper to just buy a server and host with cloudfare

[rough marsh]

wait @dusty aspen were you always forms team? not media team?

[dusty aspen]

never media team, no

I've been forms since I joined staff

[limber scaffold]

same

[hollow holly]

Also - is every staff member a member of the python-discord GH organization?

[dusty aspen]

yes

[limber scaffold]

it's where do host our internal projects & issue boards

there are some that forget to accept the invite but like

most are in the org ll

[dim flicker]

Joe were you ever just a helper?

[limber scaffold]

for an exact count uhhhhh

[dusty aspen]

!server

[limber scaffold]

when i joined there were no helpers

[obtuse swallow]

Server Information

Created: <t:1483877013:R>
Voice region: europe
Roles: 91
Member status: 42,303 231,368

Members: 273,671

Helpers: 132
Moderation Team: 31
Admins: 15
Owners: 3
Contributors: 46
Leads: 13

Channels: 236

Category: 30
News: 8
Staff: 72
Stage_Voice: 2
Text: 113
Voice: 11

[limber scaffold]

so I think I went straight to admin and then co-owner

[dusty aspen]

7 people did not join, ig

[hollow holly]

Who created this server?

[limber scaffold]

some fellow called John

left a long time ago though

[dusty aspen]

Some dude named John who isn't here anymore

[hollow holly]

Ahhh, I think they were the first message in #bot-commands

[dim flicker]

Ahh right

I was just wondering because you had the helper role

[limber scaffold]

ya i think i gave myself it

lol

[midnight forge]

no, consecutive and in ascending order

[hollow holly]

That's impossible

[midnight forge]

i just found one with three colors

now i'm enlisting the help of all pydisers to find a 4-streak

[dusty aspen]

I found it but not consecutive

[midnight forge]

ugh

sad

well no, they're consecutive, but not in order

[dusty aspen]

whatever

oh wait, what do you consider "ascending" order

is any order fine, either ascending or descending

[midnight forge]

ascending in hierarchy

[hollow holly]

They're not in order

[midnight forge]

actually yeah, both is fine

[hollow holly]

But this has 6 colors in it

if you count hedy's reply to kat

[midnight forge]

you have that nice red - orangered - orange, so that's a 3-streak

we need a 4

[dusty aspen]

Zig is in the way 😔

[simple crag]

Does anyone know if ROCm supported on windows yet or would I have to duel boot linux on my second drive if I want to increase my model training speeds?

Im not sure if its an appropriate question for #python-discussion so I asked here

[wild herald]

if i wanted to import variable from a file to a different file does the variable need to be part of a class?

[dusty aspen]

No, you should be able to do from file_path import variable_name

[wild herald]

ok

oh whoops, it works i forgot to press save on the files

[worn nacelle]

(sql) Anyone know how to find the max value of a column and then keep the whole row?

[ocean walrus]

Hi :D

[dusty aspen]

hiylo

[ocean walrus]

So I have a question, I'm aiming to go to Virginia tech. I still have a lot of time, but I was wondering. At my current progression, I'll go out of high school, with my last math course being ap calculus ab. Is that good enough? Since I'm not taking bc

[mortal hull]

sure, many hs students don't even take calc

[ocean walrus]

Hm, alright

I'm in northern Virginia, so appare ntly more competitive here

[mortal hull]

you're mostly competing against people at your school, since vtech is local to you (right?)

[ocean walrus]

Yes

[rough marsh]

why not take bc though?

[ocean walrus]

Most people in my school are on track to take some form of calculus

[ocean walrus]

Don't I have to take ab first

[mortal hull]

no

[ocean walrus]

Wat

[dusty aspen]

You dont?

[rough marsh]

no bc is just harder than ab

[ocean walrus]

Hm, I'm dumb

I thought it was after ab

[rough marsh]

but not by much really..

[mortal hull]

bc basically just has the first semester being ab, then you learn more stuff

[ocean walrus]

Oh

I thought the prereq was ab

[stone gyro]

i didn't know calculus existed before christ, much less whatever ab is

[rough marsh]

?

[mortal hull]

BC

[mortal hull]

after before

[rough marsh]

btw I sent the fractals you made to my brother without any context and he asked whether I watched 3b1b. do you?

[mortal hull]

after before is...now?

[stone gyro]

that's where I got the idea for the newton one from, yes

[rough marsh]

hah he was right

[dusty aspen]

It is for us

[mortal hull]

that sucks

[rough marsh]

he said he did his honors thesis on the manda whatever set

your second one

[mortal hull]

nelson mandelbrot

[ocean walrus]

Hm, I was looking at the flowchart

[rough marsh]

I guess it might vary per school. but the good thing is, AFAIK, you can take whatever AP exams you like

so afaik, you can still sit for the BC Calc exam and get those scores

[ocean walrus]

So apparently, if I take precalc after algebra 2, I have to take Calc ab, not bc. If I take math analysis, I can go straight to bc

[worn nacelle]

Don't think that'd work. Other columns will be asked to put in a group by phrase

[ocean walrus]

Ah alright

[dusty aspen]

In my school, after precalc, you either take Calc AB or some other Calc BC Topics course before you can take BC

[rough marsh]

wot that's so weird

[mortal hull]

interesting, we just precalc -> calc

[rough marsh]

do you take the AB exam?

seems so redundant

[dusty aspen]

For me? Yeah, if you're taking the course, you take the exam.

[rough marsh]

we didn't technically have AP classes bc we had IB. but the BC Calc exam was much easier than the IB HL Calc exam so they prepped us also for the BC Calc exam anyway

[ocean walrus]

Eh, ill confer with one of the counselors or something

[neat sparrow]

wish I was doing calc right now but I had to do precalc first

Might as well just do it in uni

[dusty aspen]

Our school offers both the IB program and AP classes, it's weird

[mortal hull]

same

[neat sparrow]

I shouldn't have transferred so late tbh

[rough marsh]

but iirc anyone can register for AP exams, correct?

[dusty aspen]

I think so, yeah

[rough marsh]

and the exam score is all that really counts?

[dusty aspen]

Or wait, https://apstudents.collegeboard.org/faqs/can-i-register-ap-exam-if-my-school-doesnt-offer-ap-classes-or-administer-ap-exams