topgg-api

[placid mesa]

Can we attract voters with top.gg api?

example

Username - <VOTE NUMBER> Vote

[unique cedar]

You have to save vote counts

But you can fetch votes from API with a webhook

[placid mesa]

So the api doesn't register?

[restive otter]

nop

[spring lake]

i save mine with the webhook calls that my bot becomes

[unique cedar]

nope

[lofty geyser]

I made this website for my bot, and i want to add various stats from my top.gg page on it using topggpy and my auth key. How would i be able to do such a thing?

I would like to have it like a small copy of my topgg page (votes, reviews, etc as well), but with a link to the official page if possible.

[restive otter]

not possible to get the reviews, the votes you can get without needing to use topggpy - just make an HTTP request

[lofty geyser]

Can you give me an example of it by chance?

[restive otter]

It's just a basic HTTP request to the endpoint

import requests

r = requests.get(
    "https://top.gg/api/bots/bot_id",
    headers={
        "Authorization": "topggtokenhere",
    },
)
print(r.json())

[vapid torrent]

Is it possible to access the topgg API without the bot being registered on top.gg

[restive otter]

no

[vapid torrent]

And I'm assuming if I were to use one of my other bots API it wouldn't work on the code so great

[mortal raptor]

"server_count" and "shards" isnt the same?

[icy aurora]

Shards is websockets for discord and shards only can have 1500 server each shard

[dapper copper]

2500* 1500 is the recommended split

[astral osprey]

hy sir

here i have something important to tell you

[tidal idol]

luffy Luke is not staff

if its what you've posted in #general, i would open a ticket on https://support.top.gg or email [e-mail] and wait for a reply

[astral osprey]

i alredy opened a ticket but it's around 12 th day no one is responding mee

who is the mod ?

i can report him

@tidal idol

[marsh harbor]

export interface VoteUser1 {
    user: string
    type: 'upvote' | 'test'
    query: string
    isWeekend: boolean
    bot: string
}

export interface VoteUser2 {
    admin: boolean
    avatar: string
    username: string
    id: string
}

export interface VoteUser {
    user_id: string
    type: 'vote' | 'test'
    source: 'topgg' | 'discordbotlist'
}

VoteUser.ts ^

import { VoteUser } from './VoteUser';
import { getCollection } from '../mongo';
import { addEvent } from '../functions';

module.exports = async (data: VoteUser) => {
    getCollection("votes").updateOne({id: data.user_id}, {"$push": {votes: {at: Date.now(), source: data.source}}}, {upsert: true});
    addEvent({
        type: "vote",
        command: "vote",
        source: data.source
    });
}

vote.ts

can anyone help

it isnt adding votes to the database

[runic creek]

It's more about your code than the top.gg api

If there is nothing in your database, .updateOne() will not work. You would first have to check whether a document with such an id field exists and if not, you would have to create it

[dapper copper]

they also arent awaiting update one

You can also do ```js
import { VoteUser } from './VoteUser';
import { getCollection } from '../mongo';
import { addEvent } from '../functions';

module.exports = async (data: VoteUser) => {
await getCollection("votes").findOneAndUopdate({
id: data.user_id
},
{ "$set": {
votes: {
at: Date.now(),
source: data.source
}
}
},
{
upsert: true,
new: true
}
);
addEvent({
type: "vote",
command: "vote",
source: data.source
});
}

[jaunty plank]

Hey @rose sierra
just saw your deleted post(smelly automod)

That query param is generated by cloudflare and can be ignored.

[marsh harbor]

would this just work?

oh typo

import { VoteUser } from './VoteUser';
import { getCollection } from '../mongo';
import { addEvent } from '../functions';

module.exports = async (data: VoteUser) => {
    await getCollection("votes").findOneAndUpdate(
        { id: data.user_id },
        { 
            "$push": { 
                votes: { at: Date.now(), source: data.source }
            }
        },
        {
            upsert: true
        }
    );

    addEvent({
        type: "vote",
        command: "vote",
        source: data.source
    });
}

should this work?

[dapper copper]

Should do

[marsh harbor]

It didn’t work

[dapper copper]

You’re not doing how I did it

It’s $set in mongo iirc

[marsh harbor]

Oh

Not home for another 3 hours I’ll fix it in a sec 😂

Or 3 hours…

[marsh harbor]

I hate coding

[marsh harbor]

import { VoteUser } from './VoteUser';
import { getCollection } from '../mongo';
import { addEvent } from '../functions';

module.exports = async (data: VoteUser) => {
    await getCollection("votes").findOneAndUpdate({
                    id: data.user_id
                  }, 
                  { "$set": {
                     votes: {
                        at: Date.now(), 
                        source: data.source
                     }
                  }
              }, 
              {
                  upsert: true, 
                  new: true
              }
    );
    addEvent({
        type: "vote",
        command: "vote",
        source: data.source
    });
}```

this didnt work

actually i'll go to #development

[fast elm]

Hello, I just set up the configuration of webhook, the test button is working fine, it sent the test request successfully, but when someone votes it doesn't send anything at all

[jaunty plank]

Show your code? ^-^

[fast elm]

i can see if any incoming requests from console, but when someone vote there are no incoming requests

router.post("/webhook", authUpvote(), async (c) => {
  try {
    const body = await c.req.json();
    const parseData = voteWebhookSchema.parse(body);
    if (parseData.type == "test") {
      info("Upvote test recived");
      return c.json({ success: true }, 200);
    }
    return c.json({ success: true }, 200);
  } catch (err) {
    error(err);
    return c.json({ success: false, error: 500, message: "Internal Server Error" }, 500);
  }
});```

[jaunty plank]

You don't seem to be logging anything when a normal vote happens. Just returning right away.

[dapper copper]

they seem to be logging all post requests anyway. Which is what I think they mean

they dont see any other POST requests coming in other than for test votes

[latent trench]

"504 Gateaway Timeout" what tf is that

[restive otter]

server not responding, means you gotta try again later

[latent trench]

Oke thx

[chilly condor]

After I added this, I can't edit the site anymore

I tried removed the team still no luck

[icy aurora]

yo

[cursive sierra]

Yo

[abstract monolith]

Hello, I have a question. How can I have a reward for voting like the rest of the bots?

[jaunty plank]

https://docs.top.gg/docs/Resources/webhooks

[winter raft]

I included a query in the vote link but query was null in the request to my webhoook

[rose sierra]

can you add other custom params to the voting url?

(an be returned back those params on the webhook on vote)

[jaunty plank]

thats what the query field is.

[raven plume]

Sometimes my post to the api for server count doesn't post and it drops down to 123 servers which i've heards is the default value or something, anyone know why?

    dbl = DBLClient(client, (the token was here), autopost=True, post_shard_count=True, autopost_interval=1800)
    await dbl.post_guild_count()

[celest slate]

can anyone help me on this?

btw, there is no real id in there. i just screenshot it because it got blocked.

[dry maple]

probably tripped it as a phone number

[vernal badger]

Will the top.gg API support sending update requests for user counts?
My bot is primarily user installed and is installed by quite a few more users than it is on servers and not being able to send user count means it only paints part of the picture of how much use it has

[restive otter]

Good idea tbh, might want to make a post at https://feedback.top.gg

[vernal badger]

Although it would only be possible to update once every 12 hours because that's the delay between the approximate user count being updated

[vernal badger]

Probably won't as it seems to be non optional to give it my email (which already gets enough spam as is) (top.gg itself can have its login URL edited to remove unnecessary scopes and then it will let you sign in and prompts you when you try an action that apparently requires more scopes)

[rose sierra]

A custom redirect once user votes for the bot is possible?

or any sort of message displayed for next step info

[restive otter]

nop

[rose sierra]

+ Fixed the redirect after voting whilst in other spaces
#site-status message

[restive otter]

It was about the normal behavior which was a redirect on top.gg after a vote, not people able to redirect to external websites. It redirected to the wrong space (back when DAOs were existing)

[jaunty plank]

This is why you need a spam email 😄

[jaunty plank]

But, send me a DM with what you want to say. I'll add it anyway because I agree.

[willow nexus]

Can we use python in the bot page ?

[jaunty plank]

👀 how can you use python in a website?

[willow nexus]

Oh we can't ok

[willow nexus]

I was just curious I'm not much into programming but just started

I heard that one could make websites using python

[jaunty plank]

Make backend for websites sure.

There might even be compilers for frontend to JS, but at that point just use JS 😄

[willow nexus]

Oh 😆

[vernal badger]

https://feedback.top.gg/693

[vestal bobcat]

how can i make vote tracker reward system in py can anyone help?

[tight sable]

Vote tracker reward system? Simply put, reward users when people vote your bot?

[winter raft]

It doesnt seem to work though, or is that only me?

[jaunty plank]

I dont think its broken, I can check in a bit.

[winter raft]

thank you

[jaunty plank]

query seems to be working for me, what query are you using?

Heres the URL I used to get that query result.

https://top.gg/bot/859150390134308894/vote?wee=woo

[vestal bobcat]

yes

[covert brook]

Hello good Day.

how can I go by adding the voting button on my page and how can I make each person gain reward from voting?

[untold sparrow]

what library / language are you using?

[covert brook]

It's in Javascript w/ Node.

[untold sparrow]

this guide should help you out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqlU2KOxQws

[covert brook]

Thank you

[visual elm]

i cant put imgur even its png

oh nvm, i'm ask in wrong channel

[icy aurora]

means API is down

5xx means Server is down

[tidal idol]

https://http.cat/502

[icy aurora]

nah 5xx you broke the server bun

[vale cipher]

Alr

[dry maple]

not always

Server can still be up and return 5xx errors

[old jasper]

Yes sir i am here

[jaunty plank]

@old jasper Can you show the code you're using to post your bots stats via the API?

[old jasper]

<a href="https://top.gg/bot/1013771497157972008">
<img src="https://top.gg/api/widget/1013771497157972008.svg">
</a>

@jaunty plank

[jaunty plank]

Thats not posting stats, thats just html.

What programming language does your bot use?

[old jasper]

Currently python

[jaunty plank]

https://topggpy.readthedocs.io/en/stable/api.html?highlight=autopost

This is our library for posting your bots stats to top.gg

[old jasper]

Ok

[orchid forum]

why would one post stats to topgg? Is that benefitial when it comes to getting discorvered better or any?

thats htis thing, isnt it?

[jaunty plank]

If you want your server and shard count to show up.

It can help, but it doesn't mean it will.

Yeah that's a server count

[orchid forum]

That doesnt sound legit. So is it accounted or not?

[jaunty plank]

I don't think we have any search params for server count.

Its mostly for users who want to see your server count before inviting.

When I added it to my old bot I got more servers quickly.

Vote rewards and vote reminders are more important.

[orchid forum]

I just launched like 2 weeks ago. at first it went up good and i was satisfied... but since 5 days its not worth meantioning. maybe 2 installs in 2 days.

Do you know if there is any information on what influences the bot's discoverability most?

[orchid forum]

Yeah, I just released voterewards with my last big update. I heared the votes count double on weekends?

[orchid forum]

Here is my statistics

[jaunty plank]

Yeah, Friday sat sun UTC is double votes

Votes and good seo on your bot page is the most important

Reminders for voting in your bot helps a ton.

[orchid forum]

Mhhm, ok, then i might need to setup a dm system to annoy all bot users regularly 🤔

but my statistics dosnt seem to fit that votes are important.

Although I definitely need to SEO.

[jaunty plank]

If you plan to DM regularly you'll want an opt in system.

If you want to do reminders 12 hours after voting you can do an opt out system.

[orchid forum]

is that top.gg or discord regulations? or suggestions?
😄

[jaunty plank]

We have guidelines for vote reminders

https://support.top.gg/support/solutions/articles/73000502502-bot-guidelines

[orchid forum]

Thank you very much for your help 🙏

[jaunty plank]

Guideline 15

[orchid forum]

I seen them 😄

[orchid forum]

okay, but nothing about the opt in /opt out thingy tied to 12h

Thanks ! 🙏

[jaunty plank]

If you're sending mass DMS periodically discord can disable your bot. So you'll want opt in.

Unsubscribe in our guidelines is an opt out system.
It can be every 24 hours, 48, 64, whatever. We just don't like people being spammed reminders. 99% of bots use a 12 hour reminder system.

12 hours after voting*

One you can look at is pixxiebot.
Invite it to a server and vote for it. After 12 hours you'll get a reminder.

[orchid forum]

don't worry, Im not here to screw up. I just need to know the exact regulations and then I can make it work. So thank you very much for your advice ❤️

Also I havent yet looked into any dm system specific commands or whatever. I do not know anything about that yet ^^ Just got that info from another discord bot developer and am curiouse since then. didnt know such a thing it possible.

[wicked zephyr]

i have a theory

[surreal pilot]

the internet is dead

[scarlet cobalt]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[icy aurora]

You fucking weeb

oh shit weong channel

[scarlet cobalt]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[icy aurora]

It says you fucking weeb

[scarlet cobalt]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[icy aurora]

I said wrong channel

[icy aurora]

^

[scarlet cobalt]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[icy aurora]

mods can you ban qt for trying -api me

jk

[visual elm]

[prime edge]

#rules-and-info

#getting-started

[still shore]

can anyone send that vote logging creating website, which was user friendly and it was lot easier to create voting logs, i can't remember it's url

[icy aurora]

@jaunty plank

[still shore]

hm

[jaunty plank]

https://webhook-topgg.com/

[cursive sierra]

is there any test methode ?

[orchid forum]

curl -X POST https://virtualzombiesurvival.top/dblwebhook -H "Authorization: XXX" -H "Content-Type: application/json" -d "{\"user\":\"1062481086782906478\"}"

[icy aurora]

yea press test vote in webhook page on your bot edit page

[cursive sierra]

Thanks ❤️

[icy aurora]

your welcome

[cursive sierra]

Thanks ❤️

[orchid forum]

uw ❤️
could also be useful to debug on your server... 127.0.0.1 (if you want ports being opened to the public) and localhost (if posts closed up and it gets thrugh another port (80 or 443) thus you want to test the internal routing)

[cursive sierra]

oh i see

[orchid forum]

Loool I have NEVER seen this 'send test' -button 😱

[icy aurora]

It’s been there

[orchid forum]

I trust you. im just schocked to havent seen it before! thanks for notifying me about this

[icy aurora]

hahah haha I can troll my staff with this

[orchid forum]

Glad it helps you keep being motivated! 🫶 😂

[raven plume]

Whenever I don't post my server count it appears as 123, why?

[restive otter]

Because you didn't post it, and that's the old value that has been posted

[raven plume]

no

My bot is at 1.4k

sometimes it posts the real number

and then when the bot is offline or smth it magically goes to 123

like every time

for weeks

123

[runic creek]

top.gg only accepts what you send it, so I would look for a problem in how you send the number of servers to the top.gg api

The most popular reason that I have noticed is that people have their own test version of the bot, which also has a script for sending the number of servers to top.gg api, and they overwrite the information that was previously sent by their main bot

[raven plume]

no

[icy aurora]

Wdym no @runic creek is completely right

[raven plume]

saying no to the test version of the bot 😄

that is nt whats happening

this is literally all I have it to do

dbl = DBLClient(client, thetokenishere, autopost=True)

majority of the time it posts properly, but sometimes no like https://gyazo.com/eb4f65cadf91a291fc5aaadad5fae94a

you can see it posts like the actual count then for some reason it goes to 123

I am not posting a different bot, it is the same bot, and my code is only the DBLclient.

[scarlet cobalt]

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[raven plume]

not sharded as of rn

client = commands.Bot(command_prefix=".", intents=intents, activity=custom_activity)

🤷‍♀️

[jaunty plank]

I'd log every post using https://topggpy.readthedocs.io/en/stable/api.html?highlight=autopost#topgg.on_autopost_success
Log what your bot is reporting as the server count.

[jaunty plank]

All the library does is check what your bot is reporting as the server count, not using the discord API directly.
The number is gets is from the bot session itself, which is why it asks for client.

That's also why they asked if you have a testing bot/other bot that you put this code into, as you'd post that bots stats from time to time.

dbl = DBLClient(client, thetokenishere, autopost=True) 

[icy aurora]

question?

[jaunty plank]

question?

[icy aurora]

can i do like muit query?

[raven plume]

Wdym sorry?

[raven plume]

Didn't know this. Will add thanks!

[jaunty plank]

muit query?

[raven plume]

does this work woo?

@client.event
async def on_autopost_success():
print("Successfully posted server count to top.gg!")

@client.event
async def on_autopost_error(error):
print(f"Failed to post to top.gg: {error}")

[jaunty plank]

I'd include the number of servers your bot is in with the on_autopost_success event.

[raven plume]

wdym like the client.server count or like what the bot is posting to top.gg wdym

the on_autopost_success has no paramaters so a bit confused, would be nice if had a paramatere for what it posted tho surely thats doable

[jaunty plank]

The client server count, thats the number top.gg pulls.

[jaunty plank]

make a git request 😄

[icy aurora]

Multiple *

[raven plume]

does topgg just use the server count like this

server_count = len(client.guilds)

using the client object that i pass in the dbl object

[jaunty plank]

Yes

https://github.com/Top-gg-Community/python-sdk/blob/c26fed5ef246c51f958a2971adc2e00662f4da53/topgg/client.py#L201C1-L203C93

[raven plume]

Thanks!

unrealated: Any idea with the review system on top.gg will be fixed?

[rocky oriole]

Hello guys !

const webhook = new Topgg.Webhook(process.env.TOPGG_WEBHOOK);

// Define the webhook listener
app.post('/dblwebhook', webhook.listener(async vote => {
    console.log('Vote received from user:', vote.user); // Logs the user who voted
    await client.utils.getReward(client, vote);
}));

const port = process.env.PORT || 3000;
app.listen(port, () => {
    client.logger.start(`Webhook listener running on port ${port}`);
});

anyone can help me about this case

[orchid forum]

I get this exact error too when i develop. So when my other bot got 2 installs (which he does)... he will overwritte the actual bots server count... might it be that u got dev environment and still be hooking up to topgg like me? and then your bot token of the testing bot you got has 123 servers installed?

what do u want?

what?

whats that

who this?

I aint got no issues

[silk idol]

@jaunty plank

[orchid forum]

@tidal mulch @young cedar Whats that for an advertisement and spam?

@jaunty plank ngl... can u ban @tidal mulch and @young cedar ?
They deleted their messages but try hard to get devs to join some other servers which are strange... without even knowing what we be writting here.

sorry that i cant provide screenshot for u to look at

[silk idol]

Ill send a notif in br chat

With thr pic

[orchid forum]

thanks mate ❤️

[silk idol]

@jade pecan

Thabks for making my job eazyer

[silk idol]

@young cedar is a scammer so dont join the server

[dry maple]

💀

[rocky oriole]

what's that

[silk idol]

Yup he is desprate

[silk idol]

A known scam

[dry maple]

Support scam

Unaffiliated with top.gg

[silk idol]

At some point inv should be blocked

[dry maple]

https://tenor.com/view/nice-try-saturday-night-live-good-try-nice-attempt-nice-shot-gif-25237563

[rocky oriole]

can you help me about track the user have vote bot brother

don't ping me

i don't like you

[silk idol]

I dont suggest you chatting here atm
Its a bot thay ping peeps who is in the chat

[fiery crown]

-purge 10

[raven plume]

No I am 100% certain it has nothing to do with a test bot

[orchid forum]

Then check out how many server installs your testbot has 🙂 I'd like to see if that number differs or not

[raven plume]

It has 2 servers, it’s a test bot after all

Additionally for it to be in 123 servers I would have had to verify it to with my ID, I only verified one bot my main one

Like I am 100% certain it has nothing to do with a test bot idk why people keep suggesting that

[scarlet cobalt]

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[jaunty plank]

That is the only time a bot has this issue, other than token leaks and sharding issues.

The only other suggestion is to reset your top.gg token

[spring cliff]

yo chat im new here how do i get top.gg auth token

[icy aurora]

https://top.gg/bot/yourbotid/webhooks

[spring cliff]

okay thanks

[icy aurora]

your welcome

[frozen flame]

is there any documentation on how i can know when someone votes for my bot?

[restive otter]

https://docs.top.gg

[frozen flame]

YH which part

[runic creek]

If you want to use API which may involve ratelimit - https://docs.top.gg/docs/API/bot#individual-user-vote

or if you want to use a webhook to receive information that someone has voted (recommended) - https://docs.top.gg/docs/Resources/webhooks

[outer cliff]

yo chat im new here how do i get top.gg auth token through api

[icy aurora]

@outer cliff

[scarlet cobalt]

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[icy aurora]

Hm

[keen sleet]

I noticed in the API documentation that the time when the user voted for bot is not returned on the HTTP response back on the check: https://docs.top.gg/docs/API/bot#individual-user-vote

Is this intentional to drive people to use webhooks instead?

If I could get a timestamp on the vote, I could skip the webhook implementation altogether.

Although I don't know the details of the backend, it seems as though some sort of "fetch" from the database / cache is already happening. I'm making an assumption that the timestamp of the action may be at your disposal.

If it was implemented, the webhook wouldn't be necessary anymore if the UI of the bot had a "check" / "verify vote" / "claim" button.

[jaunty plank]

Tbh, the ratelimit is so low on the check anyway its really only meant to support webhooks.

[keen sleet]

Oh! Is there a rate limit on that?

[jaunty plank]

Yeah

[keen sleet]

Damn, I must have missed the documentation on that.

[jaunty plank]

https://docs.top.gg/docs/Resources/ratelimits

[keen sleet]

Where is that rate limit documented?

[jaunty plank]

Webhooks are super simple anyway, they're more reliable too.

scale better

[keen sleet]

They are reliable; however, it puts more strain on the implementer ... which is likely recommended for TopGG's scale.

[jaunty plank]

strain? 👀

[keen sleet]

The implementer now has to handle spinning up an endpoint to receive webhook requests, handle downtime, scale it separately as a bot scales, etc.

It's not bad at all, just calling out that it pushes more of the work onto the consumer. Which is likely the only way TopGG can handle it for it ... considering the scale of votes they receive per second / minute

Plus, at the scale of my bot, it'll be trivial to run a webhook implementation that receives fewer than a hundred or two requests.

[jaunty plank]

Its event driven, for events. Theres a reason webhooks are standard practice for this kind of stuff.
Polling is just awful, at any scale.

[keen sleet]

In my implementation, it wouldn't be a poll. It would be initiated as a check when the user clicks the "verify".

Well, let me take that back: it would be a "poll". But TopGG opening something like that up to consumers would be subject to people polling.

That's a good point.

[keen sleet]

Cool. Thanks for your thoughts / discussion, Woo!

[orchid forum]

Webhook setup was aweful ngl... but since then its smoother and more userfriendly... people like to vote more (probably because of my vote messages channel too xd)

[keen sleet]

Im using a serverless option:

• AWS Lambda with a function URL that updates my database directly

[orchid forum]

mhhm, havent done anything with aws yet... I host all myself... aws seems expensive to me tbh... Or at least not like its understandible... But they got shit ton of service which i never heared of xd

[keen sleet]

The architecture I’m describing is free for the webhook implementation.

Regardless, pleasure speaking with you!

[jaunty plank]

Out of curiosity, was it your first time making a webhook listener?

I feel like it's rough for everyone the first time, no matter the platform.
Then if you do it once its easy everywhere.

[orchid forum]

actually yes... but it has been on my todo list for quite some time ^^ specially regarding CI/CD

[orchid forum]

I don't know if my way is the right one or if there is more easy ways... But I had to configure nginx to route properly to the application... Which wasn't that easy, as I got some weird imports I have left in there before and was edditing the wrong file.

Additionally when I tried to get an example on the top.gg api running... it was rather aweful... in the internet there were several ways of doing it and i did not really appreciate any... Now I am using the WebhookManager from top.gg and letit do the work. In my opinion the topgg api documentation is bad and could have some extensive example code. Or maybe I have been dumb and did not find it right away 🤷‍♀️

Additionally it's disencourging that we also got the other solution on hand to just ask if someone voted... I implemented this first... Now I am using both kinda. Just to make sure I havent missed any xd

[jaunty plank]

You want example code in the api docs? Or example code in the library docs?

The api isn't specific to any programming language, so example code is better off in the library docs

On the library side, it's all community run. I'd love to see you add examples to the docs of whatever library you're using.

[dull lagoon]

Hello i hava a question im using discord hybrid sharding and now top gg displays me 145 servers but my bot has 430 servers when i remove sharding its working how can i fix that i need to use await client.cluster.broadcastEval('this.users.cache.size'); to get the total guilds?

topgg autoposer

[restive otter]

cross posting won't be more useful

[dull lagoon]

?

https://nettybyte.企业/api/file/cm45uzihq008fjxcdutbxsgm1

https://nettybyte.企业/🍃✌🏥😢🎳🌇

https://nettybyte.企业/💋😏🐙🐉💍🎮

[icy aurora]

what npm package are you using

https://www.npmjs.com/package/topgg-autoposter use this

[dull lagoon]

I use this

[icy aurora]

do you know you dont have to do that https://nettybyte.企业/api/file/cm45uzihq008fjxcdutbxsgm1

[dull lagoon]

But im using discord hybrid sharding

[icy aurora]

you dont need sharding yet

or really clusters

[dull lagoon]

I just want to fix the error you have an ideas?

[icy aurora]

i dont use discord hybrid sharding, i use discord.js Sharding Manager

[dull lagoon]

oh okay

[dull lagoon]

I fixed it

https://github.com/jpbberry/topgg-autoposter/pull/8

That helped

[hollow hatch]

Hello, when trying to post stats to top.gg api but im getting the error You are not allowed to update this bot anyone know why?

[jaunty plank]

Hey! are you possibly using the token for another bot?

tokens are specific to their bot

[hollow hatch]

No sir, I'm using the token from the web hooks of the only bot I have posted on top.gg. I even double checked.

As well as double checked my bot ID.

[jaunty plank]

regen the token and try again

new bug I guess

[hollow hatch]

Regen token keeps giving me the same token over and over even after it saying it has sucessfully changed.

[jaunty plank]

refresh the page just after

[hollow hatch]

That works however im still now allowed to update the bot. I'm using Post: https://top.gg/api/bots/:1300879223354953779/stats I have the headers as Authorization mytoken and i have the request body as server_count. not sure whats wrong.

[hollow hatch]

Nevermind its suddenly working now idk lol

[signal granite]

Wait, using https://top.gg/api/bots/:bot_id/stats is the same as using https://top.gg/api/bots/{bot.user.id}/stats ??

[tidal idol]

wdym

[signal granite]

For getting server counts
I’m sending the request to this url https://top.gg/api/bots/{bot.user.id}/stats

but on the docs I see that it’s https://top.gg/api/bots/:bot_id/stats

just wondering if it’s the same thing
Cos I used this https://top.gg/api/bots/:bot_id/stats first and I wasn’t sure if it worked cos my server counts showed 0 , then I changed and used the other one , then I saw my server count finally updated

[tidal idol]

:bot_id is just an example, you replace :bot_id with your bots ID

it doesn't matter if you use :bot_id or {bot.user.id} as an example, it works if you replace the ID

[signal granite]

Ahh I see cheers

[hollow hatch]

So I set my bot to post server stats to topgg every hour, yet the number has only updated once in 2 days. What am I doing wrong?

[jaunty plank]

Show your code please

[sharp cape]

is this the place for feature requests?

[jaunty plank]

https://feedback.top.gg/

[rose sierra]

is voting webhook bugged today?

[icy aurora]

no

[icy aurora]

its your end

[rose sierra]

sending sample webhook works, im not getting it back when an actual user votes, and he was able to vote multiple times (Im assuming his vote was not registering)

[jaunty plank]

I'd suggest telling them to try another browser

[quick adder]

Is there a py version for this? I'm also struggling to set this up

[icy aurora]

https://docs.top.gg

https://docs.top.gg/docs/Libraries/python

[untold sparrow]

Not yet unfortunately as I don't really know python. I have making one of these for python on my todo list tho

[dapper copper]

Can always see if someone content inclined would be happy to record a video for it

[quick adder]

yeah I've been using the topgg library, tried with both a source installation and a pip installation and there's just countless errors like "topgg module has no endpoint", "topgg module has no data"

it doesnt seem like the module downloads everything

[normal steeple]

why when i get user info return 404?

[icy aurora]

its mean you're not allowed

[normal steeple]

ooh ok

[tidal idol]

what?

404 means not found

403 means not allowed

[tidal idol]

That means the user is not found

if it returns json { "error": "Not found" }
that means the user is not on Top.gg

[icy aurora]

oh

i had it other way around

[normal steeple]

i use my own user id

and i've tried using someone else's id but still got nothing

[tidal idol]

what is the response body returning

check if its returning HTML - if so, you've messed up the API url somewhere

[restive otter]

Top.gg ID != Discord ID

Your Top.gg ID is 394452374337777664

[normal steeple]

ohhb i thought the id was the same

[restive otter]

https://top.gg/user/394452374337777664

It's the ID in the URL

Sometimes the same as Discord but not always

[silk idol]

https://top.gg/user/(Topggid)

[rigid sable]

Are there any fine tutorials for covering Python API?

Since I don't understand what is a topgg.DBLClient

[restive otter]

^

Also the GitHub repo has examples iirc

[rigid sable]

Well, I figured it out

I used ChatGPT but who cares?

[restive otter]

The people that collect and reuse your data

[hot gyro]

hi

[worldly palm]

can someone ping me with python setup code snippet for stats

[fleet marsh]

How to post server count with api?

[icy aurora]

https://docs.top.gg

[cursive sierra]

[outer stream]

Where can i find a api key or api from top.gg?

[restive otter]

^

[restive otter]

And the API key you get one when you have a bot listed on the website

[fickle mica]

How can i get a API Key?

[silk idol]

Have an approved bot then you can check it in your bot page

https://docs.top.gg/

[fickle mica]

Oh ok 👍

[scarlet snow]

im trying to add voter rewards to my bot, how do i find my webhook url?

or do i just need the api key

i try to import it (py) and it says theres no module named topgg or topggpy, its definetely been installed. Am i using the right name for th 1.14 version? i find it weird why you would name the module and import different things

[scarlet snow]

Any help guys

Im not stupid so it wont be a pain to explain, ive just never worked with APIs before. Data science bachelor (i prolly should learn it proper either way for web scraping)

[jaunty plank]

Your webhook url is the url to your host(vps, replit, etc)

IE, http://YOURVPSIP:PORT/PATH

The port is set in code, the path is set in code. Your vps ip is provided by your vps host.

The api has pretty restrictive ratelimits, webhooks are the way to go

[scarlet snow]

I see, thanks!

[scarlet snow]

Holy working with webhooks is a pain

Spent 30 minutes trying to figure out how to correctly implement with my spaghetti code

And now im not getting the POST, and when i try to check my router to open my port it doesnt connect to the admin panel….

[robust root]

these lines exist in the community topggpy examples:

def stats(client: discord.Client = topgg.data(discord.Client)):
    return topgg.StatsWrapper(guild_count=len(client.guilds))```

however:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/home/container/######.py", line 3, in <module>
    from callbacks import autopost, webhook
  File "/home/container/callbacks/autopost.py", line 10, in <module>
    def stats(bot: commands.Bot = topgg.data(commands.Bot)):
                                  ^^^^^^^^^^
AttributeError: module 'topgg' has no attribute 'data'```

what did i do wrong here

im using the example file itself and it isnt working

[scarlet snow]

you get data from a POST not from the module istelf.

-# everything i know i learned the past 48 hrs so take it with a grain of salt

        try:
            # Parse incoming vote data
            data = await request.json()
            print(f"Webhook triggered! Received data: {data}")

            # Extract user ID (the voter)
            user_id = data.get("user")

            # Trigger func
            if user_id:
                print(f"User {user_id} just voted on Top.gg!")

                await vote_rewards(user_id, bot)
            else:
                print("No user ID found in the webhook payload.")

            # Send a success response back to Top.gg
            return web.Response(status=200, text="Vote processed successfully.")

        except Exception as e:
            print(f"Error in on_vote handler: {e}")
            return web.Response(status=500, text="Failed to process vote.")```

[scarlet snow]

i found the example files to not work either, its poorly documented hehe.

what are you trying to do? I am in no way well versed API's but ive wrapped my head around using TopGG's

I could help you if you told me your end goal @robust root

[robust root]

im just trying to handle the votes

i find the tutorials/docs either hard to understand or just not work

[scarlet snow]

well, then you can just copy my code haha. just make your own "vote_rewards" function

[scarlet snow]

this is all the code you need

and on top.gg just set the link to "http://yourpublicip:openport/dblwebhook"

make sense?

[robust root]

alright ill try this out thanks for helping

[scarlet snow]

np

[robust root]

wait do i need a decorator or does this run by itself

i mean do i need to trigger it somewhere

[scarlet snow]

you probably know but you will have to open a port on your router to get this to work, just change the port in the .run() to your open one.

yeah call topgg_setup in your main

[robust root]

alright

[scarlet snow]

the on_vote() is attached to the "/dblwebhook" path

so whenever you get a POST with the path "/dblwebhook" its gonna trigger on_vote

webhook_manager.webserver.router.add_post(path="/dblwebhook", handler=on_vote)

oh actually this is the wrong code, you have to respond with a 200 to the POST immediately or its gonna error out.

So remember to respond first

        try:
            # Parse incoming vote data
            data = await request.json()
            print(f"Webhook triggered! Received data: {data}")

            # Extract user ID (the voter)
            user_id = data.get("user")

            #
            

            response = web.Response(status=200, text="Vote processed successfully.")

            if user_id:
                print(f"User {user_id} just voted on Top.gg!")

                asyncio.create_task(vote_rewards(user_id, bot))  # This runs in the background
            else:
                print("No user ID found in the webhook payload.")

            return response

        except Exception as e:
            print(f"Error in on_vote handler: {e}")
            return web.Response(status=500, text="Failed to process vote.")```

this is the correct code for the vote handler

am i making sense 😆 im horrible at explenations

[robust root]

no worries i understand what ur saying

[scarlet snow]

sweet, lmk if u get it to work

[robust root]

great, i hit "send test" and nothing popped up in console

either i called the function wrong or the port is not open

im using a hosting service, not my own hardware so things are complicated

am i stupid or something

[scarlet snow]

include your bot in topgg_setup

so

topgg_setup(bot)

if you have access to a terminal you should also check if your script is actually listening to your port

[robust root]

forgot to say that i did try that but still nothing

[scarlet snow]

^

[robust root]

i dont think i have access to the terminal

[scarlet snow]

hmm

send me ur setup script

ill review it

[robust root]

async def topgg_setup(bot):
    topgg_token = "nuh uh"
    topgg_client = topgg.DBLClient(bot, topgg_token, autopost = True)

    webhook_manager = topgg.WebhookManager(bot)
    webhook_manager.run(port = 1039)

    async def on_vote(request):
        try:
            data = await request.json()
            print(f"Webhook received data: {data}")
            id = data.get("user")
            response = web.Response(status=200, text="Vote processed successfully.")
            if id and id in bot.data:
                reward = randint(50000, 100000)
                if bot.weekend:
                    reward = int(reward * 1.5)
                bot.data[id]["cash"] += reward
                embed = discord.Embed(...)
                dm = await bot.fetch_user(id)
                try:
                    await dm.send(embed = embed)
                except Exception:
                    pass
            return response
        except Exception:
            return web.Response(status=500, text="Failed to process vote.")
    webhook_manager.webserver.router.add_post(path = "/dblwebhook", handler = on_vote)
    return webhook_manager```

[scarlet snow]

the problem is probably in the connection and not the script

cause if the script actually received a POST it would tell you

where do you host?

[robust root]

uhhh id rather not say

but im afraid the port is not opened or something

[scarlet snow]

most server hosters will give you a ip and port thats open

[robust root]

yeah mine does give me one

its an address and i used ping (cmd) to get the ip

[scarlet snow]

so you have

access to the terminal??

[robust root]

the console only

cant run commands on it

[scarlet snow]

oh ok

https://www.yougetsignal.com/tools/open-ports/

plug the port and ip into this

will tell u if the port is open

[robust root]

it says open

[scarlet snow]

hmm

and what link do you have on topgg?

and do you have the same webhook auth on script and topgg?

[robust root]

right... the code u sent me doesnt have a place for the auth

[robust root]

this one*

[scarlet snow]

youre absolutely correct

[robust root]

its right here but my dumb brain cant process it

[scarlet snow]

oh

uh

so usually

when you initiate webhookmanager on topgg

you add the dbl webhook

thats what they tell you to do anyways

webhook_manager = topgg.WebhookManager(bot).dbl_webhook(route = "/dblwebhook, auth_key = WEBHOOKAUTH)

right? this is how you would do it, BUT the way it worked for me was to add the webhook later

usinbg

webhook_manager.webserver.router.add_post(path = "/dblwebhook", handler = on_vote)

which doesnt ask for an auth key

afaik

and i gotta be honest ive got no idea why it works i just know it does

but it shouldnt actually matter, as you see "All requests are allowed if this is not set."

[scarlet snow]

So the only remaining solutions are:

• Your script is not listening to your port, which you cannot check because you cant run commands on the terminal.

oh

[robust root]

this wont work

ill try to remove the auth

[scarlet snow]

yeah remove the manager.dblwebhook

[robust root]

key

[scarlet snow]

only have the router.addpost line

[robust root]

no one will ever find out the ip and port of the webhook anyway so whats the point for an auth right

[scarlet snow]

the .dbl_webhook function is the same as adding a post on router, and you cant add 2 post checks with the same path/rout if you understand.

[robust root]

does this button do anything

[scarlet snow]

yeah, only problem is if they do. but i wouldnt worry to much about it

[scarlet snow]

...

havent you been sending tests 😆

if you click that it will send a test POST

[robust root]

i been spamming it since this convo started

[scarlet snow]

oh ok

yeah it sends a fake vote with your @

are you sure u cant tell me ur server provider? it wont let me hack you 😆

[robust root]

nothing poppin up in console

[scarlet snow]

your other solution is NGROK

[robust root]

RIP topgg

[scarlet snow]

which can ignore the need for a port

[robust root]

first its a smol one so knowing it wont help
second the emoji 😆 is my crush's famous emoji

[scarlet snow]

😭

ngrok is free to use

so i recomend trying to run the bot on your pc

and then test it out with ngrok

and if it works

thats great

idk

your code should work, if youre not getting errors. So the problem is that its not getting the POST, which means either :

• your port is not open
• your link to your server ip and port is wrong
• or your script is listening to the wrong port.

test all these out first and see if any of those solve it.

[robust root]

sent the link in ur DMs

the IP is obtained when i ping the host's address

port is the same in the script/link/host

and ofc its open as I checked it

[jaunty plank]

Auth should be just a string of random characters. I like the just hit my keyboard a few times approach.

Ejidnwozheianxifjw8z8r2nzudhwkoa9wk29smeid83

Perfect ^-^

It's just a good security practice

[robust root]

it wont work with/without the auth

[jaunty plank]

Does your host have limited ports?

[robust root]

no idea

[jaunty plank]

Some hosts use shared ips, especially budget hosts.

So they can have limited ports

[robust root]

im asking the host owner about this

[jaunty plank]

One way we sometimes handle these situations is just visiting the url in your browser.

It should give an error in your browser about not having a GET method.

If it gives that kind of error it means the request should be reaching your server.

If it gives an unreachable error it means the request is blocked somewhere

[robust root]

host owner said the port is dedicated

[jaunty plank]

Dedicated as in you only have one port?

Then their panel should tell you which port you need to use.

[robust root]

im using that port and its open

wont work

hit "send test" and nothing showed up

[jaunty plank]

Try this ^-^

[robust root]

blocked right

[jaunty plank]

Yeah, seems a firewall is likely blocking it.

You're using linux for your server?

[robust root]

the host is running on linux

[jaunty plank]

Id check your firewall settings, see if thats blocking requests.

[robust root]

i dont have access to this

welp i may be out of choices here

[jaunty plank]

Interesting, not on a vps?

[robust root]

no idea about this

i have no info about the host or anything related to it

[jaunty plank]

I hate suggesting my own services, but look into my website.
https://webhook-topgg.com/

It just forwards the request to a discord webhook.

If you want the event in your bot, you can read the message my service sends out and handle it any way you want. Its not recommended but a lot of people do it.

[robust root]

now i have to figure out how to actually get my bot to read the message

[jaunty plank]

https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/stable/api.html?highlight=on_message#discord.on_message

Use the on_message event
filter for your webhook ID.
https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/stable/api.html?highlight=on_message#discord.Message.webhook_id

Then parse the embed.

Sadly I dont know python and cant really help any more than linking to the docs

[robust root]

alright thanks for all these info ill try to make use of them later

its well over 11pm for me

ima head to bed

[scarlet snow]

hey! Is there a way to request a users vote cooldown with webhooks? or should i just store their votes on the server for concurrency.

[jaunty plank]

That's something you store on your side, I like using redis for that kind of stuff, but any database works. Or if you don't mind losing reminders when your bot restarts it can even be in memory

[scarlet snow]

yeah, im just using asyncio.sleep(12x3600) for when to send reminder rn 😆

i want to add the timer, but i hate working with datetime. messes with my head. But i suppose theres no other way.

[jaunty plank]

One of these days I'll be upgrading my site to websockets and include reminder events.

I just need to stop being lazy about it.

[scarlet snow]

lol yeah

the sleep function doesnt require much overhead and is incredibly easy to implement.

so i guess youve gotta decide between checking every single stored datetime every minute or just the sleep.

CPU vs RAM

in my case im prolly gonna do both, CPU and RAM.

my poor servers

[jaunty plank]

Just chuck it in a database ^-^ or redis

[scarlet snow]

yeah ive already got a cooldowns database for various other commands, its just a bother. Each time theres a new cooldown i alway think "but yeah this is the last one" and dont bother making a function for it and so i always gotta make it custom 😭

good coding practices are not allowed in my codebase

[jaunty plank]

database cooldowns?

[robust root]

Hey guys

I just woke up

So my host provider confirmed that there is nothing that could possibly block the requests

This is real messed up now cuz idk what is wrong: my code or the host

[tidal idol]

does the code work locally

(not on your host)

[robust root]

I cant port forward so cant really check it

[tidal idol]

you can

[robust root]

Yeah but i dont have access to my home router

[tidal idol]

run the code locally and visit localhost:<port> in your browser

[robust root]

Cuz it aint mine

[tidal idol]

you dont need access to test it locally

[robust root]

What does this do exactly?

[tidal idol]

it means you can test if your code works

because if you can visit the URL in your browser locally, then its a host issue

[robust root]

Alright where do i get the port from

[scarlet snow]

well no its not a database sorry, but ive got a system for storing cooldowns already is what i mean. I just dont have a system for handling cooldowns, so i gotta make a custom func each time.

[scarlet snow]

you can use ngrok to circumvent having to open your ports, so you can test locally.

[tidal idol]

its whatever port you set in your code

[jaunty plank]

By test locally, I think bun means sending the request from you local machine to a locally run instance of the code ^-^

[robust root]

Unable to connect

[tidal idol]

yep this

[scarlet snow]

oh i was just telling him how he could receive POST without having to open a port, this way he could test the TopGG implementation locally.

[tidal idol]

then your code isn't working

[robust root]

Ok so question is how do i get it to work

[tidal idol]

is this in javascript?

[robust root]

No its python

[scarlet snow]

python, hes using my probably shitty code

[tidal idol]

lol

[jaunty plank]

thats python in a nutshell

;p

[robust root]

Oh yeah and somehow it works for you but not for me

[scarlet snow]

yep

and i had the same problems he had

with the test sending and getting no response at all

[robust root]

Wait where do u call topgg_setup()

In some on_ready() func?

[scarlet snow]

for me it was an issue with my port (shitty provider) so using NGROK fixed it for me locally, and it worked just fine on server

[scarlet snow]

exactly in the on_ready()

[scarlet snow]

lol

he couldnt check if anything was actually listening to the ports on his server because he doesnt have access to a terminal

[jaunty plank]

👀 no ssh access?

[scarlet snow]

but the port was open on the ip and he had the same ip in top.gg

so either the script didnt connect correctly or yes, something was blocking the POST after it reached the server

[jaunty plank]

This has to be the single worst host 👀

[tidal idol]

lol

[scarlet snow]

😆

[scarlet snow]

and he cant run netstat because, no terminal.

so his only solution is to assume the script is listening and work from there

and thats why i suggested starting the test locally first, using ngrok as its very simple work around.

cus if it works locally with ngrok, we know the script isnt the problem.

[robust root]

Guess I'll have to use Woo's service for now

Cant really identify the problem

[scarlet snow]

@robust root https://ngrok.com/use-cases/webhook-testing

test it with ngrok

its super easy

[robust root]

I have school right now 👀

[scarlet snow]

allows you to just send the POST to ngrok instead, and they will send it to the app running on your PC, and then that app will locally send it to the port you need.

[scarlet snow]

lol, yeah test it at home. But check out ngrok its very nice.

[jaunty plank]

Hopefully I'll finish websockets one of these days so we can avoid this problem

[scarlet snow]

since its the app receiving the data it can just reroute it to the port you need on your pc, the port isnt actually being used from an external connection and so it doesnt need to be open.

[scarlet snow]

its what i did when i couldnt get my ports opened either

Found out my provider had the admin panel on a login from their website, instead of just writing the default gateway into your browser like any normal provider.

[scarlet snow]

question: can the topgg be laggy / overloaded at times? when i was testing it right now it sometimes wouldnt go through for 30 seconds, and sometimes it wouldnt go through but then i when i sent another they both came at the same time instantly.

Just asking cus i wanna know if this is a issue with my script, cus if so i gotta fix it 😆

[robust root]

@jaunty plank @scarlet snow the problem is solved

it was the host thats blocking requests

the host owner fixed it and now its working

[jaunty plank]

classic

[robust root]

🥳

thank you guys for helping me all this time

[robust root]

what

future: <Task finished name='Task-1889' coro=<WebhookManager._run() done, defined at /home/container/.local/lib/python3.12/site-packages/topgg/webhook.py:144> exception=OSError(98, "error while attempting to bind on address ('0.0.0.0', 1039): [errno 98] address already in use")>
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/home/container/.local/lib/python3.12/site-packages/topgg/webhook.py", line 150, in _run
    await self._webserver.start()
  File "/home/container/.local/lib/python3.12/site-packages/aiohttp/web_runner.py", line 121, in start
    self._server = await loop.create_server(
                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.12/asyncio/base_events.py", line 1577, in create_server
    raise OSError(err.errno, msg) from None
OSError: [Errno 98] error while attempting to bind on address ('0.0.0.0', 1039): [errno 98] address already in use```

this randomly appeared

[limpid plover]

I started getting these errors today while checking if the user voted. This didn’t happen before?

[normal hedge]

randomly started getting this error?

(posting stats to top.gg with AutoPoster)

[robust root]

im also getting errors with the autopost thing and its giving me hella lot of random characters (looks like some HTML code)

oh yeah and 403 forbidden too

[normal steeple]

yeah i have the same problem

[winter raft]

Bit late response but I was trying to implement the query again today and it's still not working for me. I even tried the exact same query as you. Any ideas?

https://top.gg/bot/942858850850205717/vote?wee=woo

{
  "bot": "942858850850205717",
  "user": "1324330109078999070",
  "type": "upvote",
  "isWeekend": false,
  "query?": null
}

Also interesting that in the json the query contains a question mark next to it. In your screenshot it's just called query not query?. I would personally only expect the question mark to be in the docs to indicate optional not in the actual code.

But that shouldn't make a difference for me since I am logging the entire json.

[normal steeple]

[lyric smelt]

same

[sharp flame]

same

[scarlet snow]

Topgg servers messing up then, if everyone suddenly had the same problem 😂

[white pumice]

I see, I thought I was the only one who got it😭

[opal solar]

Same 😅

[vital anvil]

hi sorry let me take a looksie

Can you try again?

[vital anvil]

[night jungle]

bro suddenly getting so many errors.

[vital anvil]

can you show me the curl?

[old forge]

cc @normal hedge ^

[vital anvil]

or if it's a fetch

[night jungle]

its showing 403 error. and its failing to verify te votes.

[vital anvil]

yeah I know, I am asking for some other information e.g. what your web request looks like

[night jungle]

[2025-1-2 17:55:30] [INTERACTION_CREATE] Please check you are using the correct execute method: "async execute(interaction, client)": Error: Unable to connect to the Top.gg API.
    at verifyVote (D:\Coding MultiVerse\Discord Bots\Cloudy\3.3.0\cloudy\src\utils\topgg.js:50:15)
    at process.processTicksAndRejections (node:internal/process/task_queues:95:5)
    at async Object.execute (D:\Coding MultiVerse\Discord Bots\Cloudy\3.3.0\cloudy\src\commands\Music\play.js:37:30)
    at async Object.execute (D:\Coding MultiVerse\Discord Bots\Cloudy\3.3.0\cloudy\src\events\SlashCreateEvents\interactionCreate.js:78:13)
[1/2/2025] [5:55:30 PM] [Cloudy] » ✖  error     [ERROR] UNCAUGHT EXCEPTION: TypeError: Cannot read properties of undefined (reading 'send')
    at Object.execute (D:\Coding MultiVerse\Discord Bots\Cloudy\3.3.0\cloudy\src\events\SlashCreateEvents\interactionCreate.js:151:43)
    at process.processTicksAndRejections (node:internal/process/task_queues:95:5)
[1/2/2025] [5:55:30 PM] [Cloudy] » ✖  error     [ERROR] UNCAUGHT EXCEPTION: TypeError: Cannot read properties of undefined (reading 'send')
    at Object.execute (D:\Coding MultiVerse\Discord Bots\Cloudy\3.3.0\cloudy\src\events\SlashCreateEvents\interactionCreate.js:151:43)
    at process.processTicksAndRejections (node:internal/process/task_queues:95:5)
[1/2/2025] [5:55:30 PM] [Cloudy] » ✖  error     Uncaught Exception:```

[normal hedge]

im using AutoPoster from the topgg-autoposter package

[vital anvil]

noted

shoooould be fixed now

[normal hedge]

yes all fixed

[vital anvil]

lovely!

[normal hedge]

thank you

[vital anvil]

thanks for you help

[normal hedge]

no worries

[night jungle]

how you made the autoposter? can you help me

[normal hedge]

im pretty sure theres documentation on it but its just a package from topgg-autoposter

[sharp flame]

thanks bro ❤️

[normal hedge]

import it and then get your token from your bot page and use the AutoPoster function

[old forge]

https://docs.top.gg/ this should have good info!

[jaunty plank]

That's so wild.
I'm wondering if that's why I'm getting some errors from time to time(I never fixed it, it was so uncommon for me)

Query used to never be null. It would just not be in the body at all.

Something is up, I'll keep messing around with the issue before it has to be escalated.

[shell crest]

I've been running the SDK for about a year with no problems, and now I get out of work and my users are complaining that the bot isn't really working. This seems to be the main issue at hand, especially because it NEVER STOPS FIRING

I haven't touched the bot for months, so I'm not sure where this comes from

[jaunty plank]

Regen your token and use the new token. See if that works.

[shell crest]

Has the "IsWeekend" endpoint been closed off? I really only used the built in version because it was right there, but it's currently the only thing failing as far as I can see.

[jaunty plank]

Not that I'm aware of

[shell crest]

Alright, thanks 🙂 I'll try the token thing then 😄

[jaunty plank]

Actually CC @vital anvil

Same thing you looked into earlier this morning

[shell crest]

Funny thing is, getVotes works just fine, but the IsWeekend doesn't 😄

[vital anvil]

ah, sorry. this seems to not be a documented endpoint

[shell crest]

Really? Oh damn, I've been using it for a long ass time

Doesn't matter, I replaced it with something a bit more simple.

new Date().getDay() % 6 == 0

[vital anvil]

done! :)

should be open again

ah that also works lol

🤔 doens't this only handle one day?

not two days

<@&412346069675147264> might be good to replace that with actual logic.

const weekendDays = [0, 5, 6];
const isWeekend = () => {
  const day = new Date().getUTCDay();
  return weekendDays.includes(day);
};

here's the logic to replicate the endpoint UTC time ofcourse. I'll keep the endpoint but since it hasn't been documented in the docs for like... four years,

[shell crest]

If I'm not wrong the counters goes from 0 -> 6, where 0 is Sunday and 6 is Saturday, which means 0 % 6 = 0 and 6 / 6 = 0 🙂

[vital anvil]

valid, but 5 is also a valid day for top.gg -- see the code snippet above

[shell crest]

Ahh, right. Okay. I see xD I guess mine doesn't include that anymore 😄

https://tenor.com/view/oops-oopsy-homer-simpsons-homersimpson-gif-27338615

[sullen tusk]

how do you use the webhooks on the website to grant a user a role when they vote for your bot?

[signal harness]

your server would listen for the webhook being sent through, inside there is metadata that includes the user information, you would then do a post request to Discords API to assign a role

https://docs.top.gg/docs/Resources/webhooks

this is what’s being passed through, and how to set it up

[scarlet snow]

Does the API send 2 POST in the weekend?

[tidal idol]

no

your API is not responding to Top.gg fast enough so it's resending the request

always send the 200 response BEFORE doing anything like issuing rewards, DMing, or any DB inserts

[scarlet snow]

Hmm, this is the first time this happened. And i do send the 200 first.

Musta been a server glitch or something

Error

[jaunty plank]

If your server is far away, or it gets delayed at all it can cause this.

[tidal idol]

^

top.gg only send duplicate requests in the instance of not receiving a response within 3 seconds

[jaunty plank]

Mines in Finland and I'm just waiting for the right time to move it back to New York.

[scarlet snow]

Wheres the topgg server? I have the option of moving server location.

[jaunty plank]

New York ^-^

[tidal idol]

Webhook requests that time out or return a 5XX status response (like 500) will be retried up to 10 times. The retry delay is increased exponentially per retry by 2^N seconds, from a minimum delay of 1 second for the first retry up to 17 minutes for the tenth.

[jaunty plank]

If you take some time you can track down the exact data center it's in ^-^

[scarlet snow]

Gotchu, thanks. Mine is in paris rn so ill move to NY.

Only one second before retry? Seems short, i guess the distance delay would explain it.

[jaunty plank]

You can also cache the request and respond to duplicates and ignore any more.

[scarlet snow]

Ill also check for any raised errors, maybe the script just didnt work for some weird reason although its really barebones and has fall backs so there shouldnt be any issues.

[scarlet snow]

Smart! Ill look into that thanks

First time working with APIs 😂

[jaunty plank]

I've had it happen a ton.

I wish it followed the docs a bit more accurately.
A timeout should start at 5 seconds.

Responses to webhooks must be returned within 5 seconds, otherwise they are considered a timeout and will be queued for a retry (if available).

[robust root]

wait @scarlet snow when u define topgg_setup() whats the purpose of return webhook_manager (the final line)?

[scarlet snow]

Well

Then you have the webhook manager

If you need it for something

[robust root]

ehem alright

[scarlet snow]

Huh yeah 5 seconds seems more apt.

Not just me thats a bit frustrated with the docs then, they barely helped me when implementing. they may be easier to follow if youve already got some experience in API’s is my guess.

[scarlet snow]

I dont remember rn why i have it actually

But did you get it to work?

[robust root]

its working (told u a few days back)

[scarlet snow]

Right

[robust root]

host problem

eh

[scarlet snow]

Yeah i remember

[jaunty plank]

One day I'll add a guide for js to the actual docs.

The guide I have is for another library that doesn't get much use ^-^

[scarlet snow]

Yeah one thing about the docs is that the examples just dont work, they didnt for me at least. Always got errors.

Might have been more of a me problem than doc problem though.

[robust root]

any suggestions on data management cuz im using json atm

any baby-mode database i can use

[jaunty plank]

I prefer just starting with SQL.
Postgres is great.

But mongodb is easier

[robust root]

i get confused reading SQL docs for 5 minutes

[jaunty plank]

I'd like to do something like this with the actual docs.

A specific section just for more indepth guides

https://top-gg.gitbook.io/top.gg-voting-node-sdk/faq/what-are-webhooks

For most people this is the first time they've worked with webhooks, and it can be quite hard.

Once you do a webhook once it's easy, but that first time takes time without proper resources.

[scarlet snow]

Personally ive settled on JSONs as a permanent solution, you can load it all into memory and have instant acess. Only issues is with bot crashing but just save often and it shouldt be a major issue

Plus most bot libraries will never totally crash unless youre doing something really really wonky thanks to error handling

[jaunty plank]

Well, you can still run into issues with json as storage without crashing.

text based databases can corrupt themselves very easily unless you take a LOT of time to properly implement it.

You'll need write locks in place

(to do it properly)

[robust root]

permanent solution until your bot hits 2500 servers (wont happen anytime soon)
but JSON is still a great simple database with like instant access unlike those databases where u have to SELECT and commit() and stuff

[scarlet snow]

Yeah write locks is something im gonna add

[jaunty plank]

Its easier to learn a real database tbh

[scarlet snow]

Why would 2500 servers fuck with, oh shards right.

😂

[robust root]

lmao

[jaunty plank]

Thats why you need write locks 😄

So two shards dont write at the same time.

[scarlet snow]

Yeah

[winter raft]

Regarding the query issue, should I re-post that in #1314012335320596520 to prevent it being forgotten?

[jaunty plank]

Honestly, I've tried everything possible to recreate it and I cant 😦

[scarlet snow]

Are shards two different instances of the script? Or just two different connections within the same instance.

If its the latter then it shouldn’t be an issue with write locks no?

[jaunty plank]

Do you have logs for your votes that you can see what is in query? Let me try voting, if it doesnt work yeah make a forum post.

[robust root]

shards are Bot()'s twins with their own connections and their own data, they dont share data with each other (works independently)

[winter raft]

Usually I only log votes for the people in my support server, but I can implement logs real quick

[robust root]

even if u set a shared var bot.variable they wont share between shards

[jaunty plank]

I dont need to see it, just you can confirm on your side.

[scarlet snow]

So two instances, gotchu. I really need a database then.

[jaunty plank]

Or I can join your server. DM the link 😄

[robust root]

if ur bot is getting 2.5k servers u really have to get a db otherwise json on top

[scarlet snow]

Whats the best database to use? I should get this migration done before doing anything else.

Will involve a total refactor of the script

Is my guess

[jaunty plank]

I use postgres. mongodb is good too, but it can get frustrating as you scale up.

[winter raft]

I don't log the raw json though I need to change that, but that's no problem.

[robust root]

my bot is a minigame bot so recoding the whole thing would be a NIGHTMARE
thats y im looking for a way not to use databases

[jaunty plank]

Okay, just let me know whenever you're ready

[winter raft]

will do

[scarlet snow]

Yeah mines a game, with progression and whatnot. So basically every single command is editing the players info somehow…..

[jaunty plank]

Yikes, imagine losing that due to corruption 👀

[scarlet snow]

Lol, it saves often dont worry

[tidal idol]

i still wish we used https://topgg-docs.vercel.app/

[jaunty plank]

yeah a real db would help.

You might even go with redis

[scarlet snow]

Often enough.. i hope

[robust root]

yeah
being a minigame bot means the code is constantly updating and retrieving info
making a db for all of that would hurt

[jaunty plank]

Nah, relations are easy.

Its really really fun making a database graph. So satisfying.

[scarlet snow]

So postgres, mongo and redis thanks. Ill look into them and see what i decide is the best.

With the frequent writes and reads im mainly looking for whats fastest, im fine with obscure and hard to use databases as long as the result is fast hehe.

[robust root]

writing an execute() line to retrieve/update player info every 5 lines of code is PAIN

[scarlet snow]

Love graphs

[jaunty plank]

👀 what uses execute?

Also, you need to make a dedicated db file

[robust root]

sqlite3

[winter raft]

Alright I'm ready
https://top.gg/bot/942858850850205717/vote?wee=woo

[jaunty plank]

ah

I'm not even logged in to top.gg 👀

[jaunty plank]

voted

[robust root]

10k servers damn

[jaunty plank]

wtf, yeah make a fourm post

[scarlet snow]

Just DRY, dont repeat yourself.

[jaunty plank]

man :/ I'm sorry

[robust root]

dry?

[scarlet snow]

I dont know if im remembering it right

[robust root]

oh wait

soz

u explained the thing lol

[scarlet snow]

But dont repeat yourself, if youre doing something often just make it a function

[jaunty plank]

All your db queries should be functions

[scarlet snow]

^

[jaunty plank]

I'll swap to my work machine real quick

[tidal idol]

worked for me

[robust root]

i cant really make a function tho, each part of my code retrieves a different part of data or sometimes inserts/remove data

[tidal idol]

i did ?query

or is it a specific bot issue

[jaunty plank]

It might be bot specific

[scarlet snow]

You can use a function that takes a dotpath to easily navigate to the data u need

[tidal idol]

[scarlet snow]

So you could do

user.stats.wins

Or

user.inventory.money

To easily edit the data u want

[robust root]

im using pure dict values data[player]["cash"] and such

im thinking about the implementation of DBs

[scarlet snow]

Same

[scarlet snow]

Ive got no idea about that hehe, better ask woo

Ive gotta do some learning

[robust root]

WOOOOOOOO is a JS dude?

[scarlet snow]

Idk

[jaunty plank]

Ye

[scarlet snow]

But i think best database practices transcend your language

[jaunty plank]

^

[scarlet snow]

I only know PANDAS but its not a database just a database editor

What would you call pandas actually

[robust root]

idek what pandas is

[scarlet snow]

you use it mainly for datascience afaik

Well, thats the use of it i know. Probably way more

Its just a library for storing and manipulating that can easily be used to do machine learning and data representation

[robust root]

classic

[jaunty plank]

I like how the first option is use redis 😄

[robust root]

o hell nah how do i make databases process dicts

[scarlet snow]

how big is ur userdata? im at 180 players and 1.1 MiB rn

[robust root]

mines at kilobytes (so smol)

[scarlet snow]

😆 it grows fast

[robust root]

with the current rate i dont think so

[jaunty plank]

Databases can get complex quick. But once you get it down its easy ^-^

I have a database file with all my functions, it just uses a single client.

[robust root]

my bot is relatively new

[scarlet snow]

gotchu, in any servers yet? I implemented vote rewards and my server count doubled overnight 😆

[robust root]

49 servers but player count is small

[jaunty plank]

Itll grow, just takes time.

[robust root]

im having exams atm after that i plan to reskin my bot

it currently looks like it was made by a toddler

gotta rewrite some functions

bot was going well around 4 months ago when i have to shut it down

now i basically have to restart from the beginning

gaining popularity and such

[scarlet snow]

oof

why did u shut it down?

[robust root]

irl stuff and the old code was buggy and messy

[scarlet snow]

gotchu

[jaunty plank]

Everyone views their own code as buggy and messy ^-^

[scarlet snow]

haha yeah

[robust root]

oh yeah if u cramp every functions in a file it will automatically be messy

[scarlet snow]

mine is so spaghetti, sometimes i go back to update code i havent touched in 2 weeks and literally go "wtf"

[robust root]

i use cogs now which sorts things out a bit

[jaunty plank]

Ah, well thats just a refactor.

[robust root]

damn what the hell did i make here hmm how tf does this work ahh reaction

had it sometimes too

[jaunty plank]

Does py have a JSDoc alternative?

[scarlet snow]

yeah i gotta migrate to cogs too... i started messing around with a second bot for fun and learnt cogs for it and was like "oh god this is so much easier" and then i went "oh god its gonna be such a pain to refactor into cogs"

[scarlet snow]

no idea what jsdoc is 😆

[robust root]

u can just copy ur whole command function to a new cog and itll work (needs some adjustments to variables tho)

[jaunty plank]

Its a way of tagging functions that explain things well.

https://jsdoc.app/tags-example

[scarlet snow]

yeah, just gotta do that 50 times.

[jaunty plank]

So, I can make a function, leave for 6 months and it will describe the function, its inputs, its outputs

[scarlet snow]

oh i see, yeah i think it does.

you can definetely decide what type is returned

and of course you can always comment

i should comment more

[robust root]

i dont even comment

[jaunty plank]

JSDoc is just comments. But it communicates with your IDE, so I can understand a function without looking at the function itself.

[scarlet snow]

wait if mongodb uses JSON can i just copy paste, really hope so.

[robust root]

theres not a single comment in my code (except those so that i can remember the keys of a dict or smth)

dunno if thats good or bad practice

[scarlet snow]

😭 im a bit better than that

[robust root]

when i read my code i simply execute them in my mind

[scarlet snow]

"its called mongo because of its use for humongous data loads"

[jaunty plank]

Mongo does support json, but not in the way you're thinking.

You'll want to write your own handler for it, which isnt hard.

[scarlet snow]

hmm

[jaunty plank]

Ie, something that reads your entire json file, then create the mongo docs from that.

[robust root]

as an unexperienced coder i can confidently say that ill employ ChatGPT for anything outside of writing a command function

[jaunty plank]

just be weary of using chatgpt. Learning these things on your own without chatgpt is a good way to get more experince.

using chatgpt slows down learning.

[winter raft]

Do the new bot developer forums mean that topgg is being worked on again?
I had the impression that since the app directory, topgg hasn't been getting any updates anymore

[robust root]

i dont just ChatGPT the whole thing then paste it into my code
i use ChatGPT mainly to learn the function syntax, then comparing with the docs i make adjustments or make functions my way

[jaunty plank]

We've had significant backend upgrades 😄

[old forge]

I wouldn't say the App Directory necessarily - However the first part

[winter raft]

no new features though

[old forge]

patience

perfection takes time

fr

[winter raft]

ic

[old forge]

backend you can't see

[winter raft]

yea haha

[tidal idol]

i know a lot of backend changes are being made because i've seen them change features subtly

trust me a lot is going on and its going very well

[winter raft]

sounds promising

[old forge]

the most effective change resulted in https://status.top.gg/ being 99.9% so

[jaunty plank]

bring back 75% uptime 😠

[winter raft]

lol

[scarlet snow]

99.94% is impressive

[winter raft]

The last patchnote being in 2022 just gives me that impression 😂

but I think it's the last day of 2022 actually

well mid december

[jaunty plank]

I think we've had quite a few upgrades in 2024 that have no patchnotes that users needed to see.
Its mostly been reliability and speed.

[winter raft]

I assume topgg gets more more traffic than the app directory right? Since most people will google for a discord bot and topgg ranks first

I mean you can't know for sure but I'm guessing

[jaunty plank]

The volunteer team really wouldn't know anything like that.

[winter raft]

yea

[scarlet snow]

@jaunty plank it looks like REDIS is the thing im looking for, nano second access times ❤️

lots of modules as well, even for AI which is just perfect for me. Gonna data science tf out of my players.

[jaunty plank]

Redis is great, just remember it stores everything in memory

So if something isn't accessed for weeks it's taking up memory

You'll want to learn to configure it before depending on it.

[scarlet snow]

yeah i know, for a discord bot i think its fine. Even at 180k players it would only be a gb of information which i will have the overhead for.

[scarlet snow]

wdym

[robust root]

with my bot's small scale I dont think Ill be learning DBs anytime soon D:

[scarlet snow]

😆 better sooner than later i say

gonna be a PIA to switch to a db now, wish i did it from the start.

[jaunty plank]

Since it's a cache system more than a database.

You can store stuff long term, but it doesn't always store right away.
It puts it in memory and stores it later.

Just do your research and you'll be fine.

[cerulean island]

Even if I use hosting and don't use replit, should I still use express's npm or not? And how would it be?, I am hosting the bot on a hosting and I want to make the system say that I already voted

[jaunty plank]

Express works pretty much anywhere

[scarlet snow]

getting started on the "redis university" courses rn haha

[cerulean island]

and if I am using my PC to host, what URL should I put in "Webhook URL" localhost or which one?

[robust root]

how is ur player data structured? mine has a lot of values and i dont want them to get complicated with read-write processes

[scarlet snow]

its just dicts no deeper than 3

[robust root]

wym by no deeper than 3

[scarlet snow]

as in

idk

like

a normal dict

is 1 deep

and then

if u have a dict in that dict

thats 2 deep

also yeah its no deeper than 2 not 3

[robust root]

ah nested dicts

[scarlet snow]

yes

exactly 😆

thats probably the right word for it

[robust root]

i also use nested dicts but however i also use lists

lists in dicts and dicts in dicts

[scarlet snow]

yeah i have lists in dicts in dicts

[robust root]

would be complicated to process with DBs

wish shards use shared data

[scarlet snow]

dont think so actually

[jaunty plank]

👀 dicts are [item, item, item] right?

[scarlet snow]

{
key: value
}

[jaunty plank]

Ah objects