rogue-core-chat

[sleek swallow]

not necessarily anything to do with what you think needs improvement

I'd like to see it improve too, I have my own criticisms as well

[lost tapir]

i'm sure it's headed there, i just don't personally see it yet. there's not enough in this alpha to get a full picture of what this game could be

in my opinion*

[sleek swallow]

but it's entirely dismissive and/or reductive to claim that it has no point to exist, stuff already being done on the game just isn't possible to have in drg either because it would break game balance or change too much about drg itself

it was gonna be an expansion but they thought to themselves what if they stopped working within drg's limitations and now we have rogue core

[lost tapir]

is that something people have been saying, that this should have been a drg expansion? that's not what i was saying at all

[sleek swallow]

I see that now

[lost tapir]

all good, i think we mostly agree on where the game is at

[halcyon canyon]

Yeah that's annoying, its 100% not intended. But I have Lost like 2 runs for that.

[last bloom]

How do you think the game will do om early access release in may?

[lost tapir]

no idea, the only person i can speak for is myself. i hope it does well, i'm still gonna buy it myself even if it's not in a place i'm happy with

[solar dock]

can you rock and stone in this game?

[boreal plume]

yes, with old and new voice lines

[wheat river]

Alright, server should be up again. Error from tonights steam maintenance killed it again..

@dry canyon @edgy chasm @manic pond @fleet sapphire Should work now, apologies

[fleet sapphire]

Tyty!

[manic pond]

Ty!

[pure condor]

Thanks!

[undone rose]

anyone down to play i just compleated the tutorial

[summer tiger]

Go to #lfg-alpha once you get permissions from the welcome screen

[dapper hearth]

guys

trying rogue play test, its kinda blurry is it a tutorial thing or some setting

where do i put a ss

[summer tiger]

It's supposed to be a bit blurry since it's a simulation. However the intensity of the blur should be adjustable

[summer tiger]

Go to #gallery-alpha once you get access from the welcome screen when you boot up the game

[dapper hearth]

done

[languid quarry]

what are those green tokens that are under the level

[modest lichen]

can we invite our friends to play test?

[finite laurel]

No, that feature didn't work unfortunately

[summer tiger]

No, the system never worked. If you attend the playtest remember to leave feedback and playTEST

[summer tiger]

Scrips can be redeemed in cosmetic sheet in character customization

[modest lichen]

yes i will

[languid quarry]

thanks daddy

[dapper hearth]

am i doing something wrong i am unable to go past level 1

[halcyon canyon]

not really, its because the game doesn't know you are being revved and autofails the mission. (on solo)

[tacit urchin]

As in? Facility depth or facility floors?

[dapper hearth]

its more of a skill issue, the enemy numbers is so much, and the gun kinda aaah

[tacit urchin]

Oh

[dapper hearth]

slicer aint made for me

[halcyon canyon]

Well yeah but its also game issue, cuz drg bosco could rev you and not fail the mission.

I always get to the last stage and then die

[tacit urchin]

Does that happen each time

Like, Cooper can't revive you at all properly?

[halcyon canyon]

He can revive me but the game ends too soon

Sometimes the game says "failed" before he can rev me.

[boreal plume]

Some people have also reported that issue

[halcyon canyon]

ok

[boreal plume]

Hopefully the devs are working on a hotfix

[halcyon canyon]

Also sometimes the boss doesn't summon. It failed to generate the corestone or whatever it is.

[tacit urchin]

Yeah, that also got reported

Nobody found any issues prior to the invite wave though

[halcyon canyon]

The audio works well now tho. Atleast for me

[halcyon canyon]

yeah, on my solo missions it usually works. On multiplayer I have seen that issue.

[dapper hearth]

yeah it was wierd for me withouty it

[dapper hearth]

whats that

[tacit urchin]

It seems to be because of the tutorial for a lot of people

What is what, the invite wave? You were a part of it

[boreal plume]

There was a patch yesterday which apparently introduced new bugs

[tacit urchin]

They invite players to play the game in waves

[boreal plume]

The wave went out after

[dapper hearth]

ohhh

[pure condor]

Played through the whole mission and then the boss was nowhere to be found on the final stage. Audio was an issue but I fixed it either by going to the second stage or changing it so Omega doesn't take priority. After all my teammates passed, I was stuck looking at absent bodies for a full minute before I got the failure screen. Having fun though.

Was not able to take screenshots for some reason either so, we'll see what happens.

[last bloom]

Is it "easy" to implement different types of encounters in the future? Right now as I understand there's only one type of encounter?

[dry valley]

anyone want to play?

in pod 1 rn

[boreal plume]

By encounter do you mean boss fight

[last bloom]

ya

[boreal plume]

I think it's harder to implement them than drg because rogue core bosses have more mechanics to them

Currently there are 3 bosses in the game

[last bloom]

so its kinda defend endpoint and meet a boss type of encounters right now in the game?

[flat garden]

hi

[boreal plume]

You don't really defend anything, not like doretta the drilldozer. It's more like elimination missions

[covert grove]

just got access today , friend invets doesnt work right? , as in giving a friend access to the closed alpha

from what i can tell by reddit it used to be a feature , but its been removed along the way , just wanted to check if that is acually the case

[tacit urchin]

Doesn't work, yes

[jolly drift]

i blew my slot in rogue core suggestion, didnt know of 6hr timer...

[dry valley]

hey

[barren sparrow]

is this the "exclusive" playtest channel? otherwise, clicking the join link did not work
... also hi everyone 🙂

[hollow bear]

https://discord.com/channels/257785731072786435/1366343433442295828

It's down there. If linking doesn't work, you might have to catch Jenny when she's around

[dry valley]

anyone want to play?

[wheat river]

it looks like you have the role so you should be able to see the channels

[tall plume]

https://tenor.com/view/im-the-best-im-awesome-awesome-happy-excited-gif-272169196821366535

[inner granite]

Bro just left

Boss had enough of your shit

[dry valley]

@wheat river do I have the role?

[tall plume]

you don't

[dry valley]

can I have it I got rogue core

[wheat river]

Click the button on the startup/info screens and it links your account

[dry valley]

done it I dont see rouge core vcs tho

[tacit urchin]

Those don't exist

[dry valley]

ah how do we play together then

[tall plume]

using the other, normal pods, is fine

[dense kite]

guys i got access today, had some questions.

1)What's the use of C-Scrip?
2) Patch notes say there's a cheat terminal, how to access it?
3)Progress from this won't carry on to the EA version in May, right?

[tacit urchin]

C-scrip is for cosmetics in the cosmetics sheet tab

Cheat terminal was removed

Progress won't carry over

[dense kite]

Where's cosmetics sheet tab

[tall plume]

in the cosmetic loadout screen, bottom right "cosmetic sheet"

[tacit urchin]

The cosmetics terminal has a tab in the down-right corner

[dense kite]

i see

thanks guys

[tall plume]

🐌

[tacit urchin]

Pounce

[tall plume]

[tacit urchin]

Change my snail into a snake

PLease!!1

[tall plume]

no, it will scare people

also, snail funn1

[tacit urchin]

Tis not! I asked very nicely

[mossy ruin]

pounce has degraded

[tacit urchin]

Yeah, lower graphics now

[tall plume]

that's how I look without my morning coffee

and without DLSS

[tacit urchin]

DLSS5 OFF

[ashen forum]

is there an option to swap weapon slots, my gun is in "2" but I want it to be in "1"

[north coral]

can i get the translator thingy in rogue core if i help translated or do they pick who togive

i want fancy name color too

[hearty phoenix]

I'm little retarded with discord, I got the locked channels for the play test but I can't get them on mobile? How do I get those

[covert grove]

any1 have a good tip for clearing the soundbug? disbanding team or a mission doesnt do it for me

really annoying to basiclly just have ,music

[odd kestrel]

How do I get security levels and overrides?

[tall plume]

you keep playing and you eventually unlock them (it's among the first thing you're going to unlock)

[hexed dragon]

how do you get into the rogue core playtest chat

[tall plume]

you read the categories names until you find it

shouldn't take too long

(because you have the role - and thus access already)

[hexed dragon]

oh when did i get the role

when i linked to the discord bot?

[tall plume]

yeah

[summer vortex]

Encounterd a sound bug, sound effects and voice-lines bacame very distant, Bug reported in game.

[hexed dragon]

ohh found it thanks

[hexed dragon]

i found a bug where my max fps doesnt save when i reload the game

it was capped at 120 and i relaunched and it became uncapped

do you know if others have reported that yet

[summer tiger]

yes, it was reported

[hexed dragon]

ok awesome

[chrome basin]

Is there any option to disable dmg numbers? I’m with the unpopular opinion that they don’t contribute that much and overall make a worse visibility

They do improve the feeling of impact tho

[summer vortex]

options UI

you can toggle damage numbers for you and your minions

[boreal plume]

You can ask drakoniid in #translator-lounge but you dont get a different color

You get access to new channels though

Wait wrong channel

[summer vortex]

lol

[summer vortex]

Options -> UI there are some toggles there

[north coral]

cant access it

[boreal plume]

#babelfish-lounge diffracted drakoniid

[north coral]

thank you shiro, appreciate the info

[boreal plume]

[summer vortex]

big oscillating wall, anybody knows how to get one, it's in between me and the elevator.

get past one*

[tall plume]

the core resin wall ?

just mine it

[summer vortex]

its toxic when i go near it

maybe its the entry point and i turned myself around

[tall plume]

I think so yeah

the barrier is only at the start

[summer vortex]

whelp

darn it.

[lone nacelle]

im brand new but what is the barrier wall (lore wise)? is it containment or something put there by the core spawn?

unless i just missed that in the intro

[tall plume]

unknown, we only know it's related to the events going on

[summer vortex]

I thought that the game bugged because I couldn't find any missions, turn out you can spin the globe 😛

[coral pulsar]

anyone else found the mouse wheel glitch inside the ramrod loadout?

[summer tiger]

When rifts spawned inside the facilities they surrounded them with barrier. Nothing gets in, nothing gets out. Unless you are reclaimer that is.

[pale rain]

i wonder if a "sprint by default" mode is planned, or is there at least a mod already available for it?

[tall plume]

not planned

[pale rain]

why not, if i may ask

[tall plume]

the devs don't want to

[lost tapir]

i think i've lost hope this game will be anything good. i no longer have faith that the devs actually understand what was fun about DRG. too many random bad design decisions. good luck with playtests i guess, but the more i play this game the less i want to buy it. later

[tall plume]

ok lol

[daring hill]

no offence but it feels like half the time someone does this entire full "this is terrible and will never ever be even remotely good" dismissal it's usually over aspects of the game that make it a roguelike in the first place

[tall plume]

too bad they left because I'm 95% sure it boiled down to "game too hard and I don't like the timer"

also probably "I don't like the shared upgrades"

[daring hill]

one is a reasonable criticism and definitely going to cause a massive wave of complaints and issues when the game hits early access, and the other is skill issue

[tall plume]

people will complain about the shared upgrades for sure

I personally think it's fine as a system

it's pretty unique, for starter, and I like that a lot

[daring hill]

i really don't see a way early access goes where GSG doesn't eventually concede that there are flaws about it they need to fix

you can't operate exclusively on thinking everyone is going to be goodwilled or nice

[tall plume]

that's how DRG operates already

[daring hill]

and hell, the system is flawed even under well-meaning people, who still pick upgrades with The Cool Colours purely because they have The Cool Colours

[daring hill]

and DRG doesn't immediately fall apart when it doesn't happen, but the shared upgrades do

[tall plume]

yeah, it kinda does ?

you can literally end a mission the second everyone steps out of the drop pod

or completely fucks over everyone by ruining objectives progress

with no choice left but to restart

[daring hill]

idk if "this system is flawed but DRG has the same flaws so its fine" works

[tall plume]

That's not quite how I see it.

I don't think the system is particularly flawed, but people are. And because this is a "trust" system, it will be impacted by these flaws.
But playing any game also revolve around this social contract, this isn't a thing inherent to DRG and RC.

Toxic people in games are everywhere. You're not gonna escape them. Trying to change a system toward something less interesting just because you're scared people might ruin it is quite limiting - and not a good solution IMO.

[daring hill]

you can improve the system without totally chucking it in the bin though

[tall plume]

You can, but I wouldn't change it drastically - and that includes keeping the shared upgrades.

[daring hill]

it just needs at least some basic protection

[tall plume]

I don't agree with this

It's pointless

[daring hill]

ignoring the problem because "heh, boys will be boys" is just as much of a bad solution as totally gutting the system

[tall plume]

Thinking some "basic protection" is gonna solve the issue about people being assholes is delusional

[daring hill]

im not saying basic protection will perfectly solve the problem

but doing something about it would be nice

[tall plume]

it's not going to solve anything at all. And the next thing you know, you're trying to fix the next issue that people are abusing.

keep going and you end up with a solo game played by 4 people at once.

[daring hill]

...thats going to happen if nothing changes whatsoever, too?

people will be so annoyed by having upgrades stolen from them that they will end up playing solo or exclusively with friends

[tall plume]

That's only because you're convinced it's gonna go wrong every time, except you can't be sure of that.

[lilac heart]

Trying to manage bad actors has never really been prime candidate for a feature in non-competitive games, and I can see why RC might not see any changes over what DRG did

That's to say: I agree.

[daring hill]

wait, so it is inescapable and unsolvable because toxic people are everywhere in gaming, or is it something that may prove to never be an issue?

[tall plume]

what is inescapable is that bad experiences will happen - just like they do on a more or less regular basis in every game

what is not known is how important of a problem it's gonna be

[lilac heart]

It's a treadmill of work for the devs. You forbid people from doing one thing and they will hop onto the next thing that can be exploited.

[tall plume]

You can try to solve the issue, and the devs are trying to do that, but not by limiting players and rather through encouraging co-operation.

[daring hill]

are they? as far as I know the situation hasn't changed

[tall plume]

what problem ?

[daring hill]

ok yeah fair enough it should probably be explicitly defined

the problem is that the game expects cooperation in a vague "roleplay" way. It's not required, you can play the game, while ignoring your teammates entirely in what they need/want for upgrades, with absolutely zero issue

its not even a matter of toxic people imo. goodwilled people have no real reason to let other people have upgrades that they need/want

[tall plume]

I think that's an inherent problem with any co-op game tbh. Especially since there are very varying levels of skill. It's not a problem that can be completely solved unless you're massively going to shift the game.
This is particularly true for roguelites where individual power can go through the roof.

I guess one of the ways to fix that would be to make the game incredibly hard - but who's gonna enjoy that ?

The other way is to have better events that revolve around co-operation - and that's a work in progress.

the other problem is : can these events also work in solo ?

because that's an added layer of difficulty for design

[daring hill]

I just really dont like the idea of shrugging it off as some unsolvable issue that everyone just has to deal with. With either "toxic people will do whatever" (does not matter, normal, nice players have every reason to steal upgrades from players and act identically to toxic players) or "its an unavoidable problem of coop" (how? It's harder for me to refute this because RC is so unique, but it feels like a dismissal)

I feel like they should at least add one more upgrade option across the board, and maybe scrap the rarity system visually

Don't line up upgrades as "ignore your team-mates, grab this no matter what"

[broken flame]

Playing Risk of Rain 2 with randos for me was kinda meh because of similar things, so I stopped playing with em. But I wouldn't change the system at all because it was really fun with my friends with how it was set up.

[lilac heart]

I mean, it's partially handled by you being sometimes the first to pick, and the other times last to pick a thing. Is that not how it works in the Closed Alpha - I'm sorry for being ignorant, I haven't played it/watched video material about it - but that's the impression I got from watching a smidge of gameplay from a couple of months ago, and I could be wrong.

You can't really create a system where everyone is happy without sacrificing something in turn, be it complexity or the stakes of creating situations in which you want to emphasize that you'd really like to get XYZ.

[tall plume]

I'm not shrugging it off. But I'd rather prefer we focus on solutions encouraging people to co-operate rather than changing systems because of the fear of what might happen.

[tall plume]

these are possibles solutions btw

though the rarity one is not without consequences

getting rare stuff is a dopamine inducing thing, that's why people like them

[olive narwhal]

Its got positives and negatives you lose the dopamine but people won't just choose the shiny one because it is

[tall plume]

I think RoR2 is a perfect example of a multiplayer PvE game that does not encourage co-op - and is in fact quite hostile toward the idea.

[daring hill]

I think the dopamine could be the realisation of knowing what an upgrade could do for you, instead

Or simply recognising a name

[tall plume]

there are at least two solutions I can see to this problem

1. a "personal" upgrade that is only available to you. It's one solution, although it comes with problems of its own.
2. upgrades getting more power if there are synergies between them - though that's a tough thing to balance, I think it might be the better one

2a) could be geared toward having upgrades give you less power if there is no synergy but I think a positive thing instead of a malus would go a better way

[lilac heart]

Also I'm positive that over time - as dedicated people get better at understanding the game - people will develop generic strategy guides that will be at least partially adopted by the community, including "etiquette" guides for say, which class/type of player may want what <XYZ thing>, or people with X type boons might want Y type boons in the future to make their build go live/perform on par with builds <ZYX>.

You will meet people not following the strategy once in a while - you can't really mitigate that risk fully. You can "vaccinate" people to these ideas and meet, and befriend people that propagate them.

[olive narwhal]

The people that had been in for a while did develop etiquette and and resisted the shiny to think if the upgrade is better in a different classes hands

[olive narwhal]

2 is certainly the more interesting

[tall plume]

there definitely will be a period of chaos before things get better

that's inevitable

[olive narwhal]

Its a unique system that for sure has a warming period especially with new people in the pool again

[lilac heart]

And it's wishful thinking, I know, but being in several communities that were theory-crafting spoken guides on how to succeed frequently/consistently, or just applying them in game for people to witness, is not that unrealistic and will have some impact on what and how people will adapt to the systems.

[broken flame]

Despite that, it made me and my friend's cooperative usage of it way more interesting and fun.

[heady storm]

Why can't I unlock any perk slots right now?

[frosty flicker]

i have a question i recently got access to the playtest i was wondring that will there be a pvp seen as well?

[lilac heart]

If there will be, nothing is known about it as of now.

It’s somewhat unlikely that RC will ever have PvP though, considering the devs’ track record.

[tall plume]

I can 100% assure you that there will never be PvP

[frosty flicker]

i see i mean pve is good as well but it would have been fun

[tall plume]

GSG is not interested in making PvP games

maybe that will change in the far future but that's not coming for RC

[frosty flicker]

hmm intresting

[rugged hazel]

Kinda sucks how they announced they were gonna try to get the steam invite your friends style invites to the play test then stopped caring or trying to do that becuase i was really excited about being able to play but apparently trying to do what you said doesnt matter to some people ./shrug

[tall plume]

that's an issue with Steam

as explained in the pinned FAQ

Can I invite a friend to the playtest if I get picked?

No. At the very start of the Closed Alpha, we did try an experimental Steam feature that allowed for friend invites. But it didn't work consistently, and Steam has since rolled it back. So it's no longer a thing.
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2605790/view/574879683755115309?l=english

[boreal plume]

what's with passive aggresive comments lol

[rugged hazel]

Like it works perfect for deadlock super suspicous it doesnt work for anything else

[gilded rock]

almost like it's not the same system as deadlock

[rugged hazel]

thats literally the system they use for deadlock invites....

[gilded rock]

yeah
and that's not the one RC uses, rogue core gets waves of invites sent out every now and then

[tall plume]

and it had the same issues with it as I remember

[rugged hazel]

Yea they tried to use it but it wouldnt work for rc and thats why im like wtf cuz it works fine for their game but not someone elses

[waxen hamlet]

Please let there be another drop soon. If not, no worries.

[rugged hazel]

It just feels suspusious like is steam not letting people use the better version to keep their game more relevant or some conspiracy bs like prolly not but its still weird it works really well for one game then not at all for another

[boreal plume]

they mentioned it on the latest steam post too

-You can't invite a friend if you get picked. We tried this at the start as an experimental Steam feature, but it didn't work consistently and it's since been rolled back.

[rugged hazel]

I can read why havent they tried fixing it instead of just rolling it back its been months lol

like if deadlock had these troubles and it was constantly being weird about it id be like yea that makes sense deadlock can barely do it but its been fine so whys it having a hard time using the system that works for another game?

[drifting quest]

can't wait for May 20th but I really can't wait until May 22th

[rugged hazel]

Cuz good god that should be the standard for playtesting games having a group of friends where only 1 gets in feels so bad its annoying, as the friend who gets in it doesnt feel good it feels like youre leaving your friends behind and if you dont get in it just feels like you didnt win the lottery like super lose lose feels

[teal lion]

Sadly deep state steam will never tell us

[boreal plume]

I'm pretty sure they would if they could, it's a co-op game that would benefit from playing with friends after all

It's called an experimental feature for a reason

[rugged hazel]

doesnt change how weird it is that it works one for game but not another lol

[daring hill]

yeah no I don't blame GSG in the slightest

that shit was buggy

[inner granite]

Value develops deadlock
They can update and fix bugs in it as they come

[daring hill]

also note that deadlock doesn't use the same system

[waxen hamlet]

I can't enjoy deadlock. My monkey brain gets confused.

[tardy vale]

i wonder why the literal owner of steam can use a feature but an indie game developer cant(Sarcasm)

[daring hill]

because valve never used it

[waxen hamlet]

No begging allowed otherwise we all do it. Trust us, there a lot of people like me who are not in yet.

[inner granite]

Can someone gift me a cookie pls

Who needs some silly game, i just want a cookie

[tropic onyx]

they added female dwarves. 10/10

[burnt swan]

Im sure if you open any website ever they’d be glad to give every cookie you could want

[deep temple]

How much will I have to save to get DRG:C?

[astral tinsel]

I can't seem to get the discord link in the opening screen to work

[shell dagger]

your drg rc is working?

[limpid comet]

maybe 23$

[shell dagger]

i cant get mine to work right now

[deep temple]

Thank you

This is the only company I trust to give players a great time.

[astral tinsel]

yes

[shell dagger]

darn i guess its a issue on my side, says something about disablemodding

stopped working after a update

[astral tinsel]

I just got in recently

[shell dagger]

Same, got my access the other day

I really like it, just wish I could play.

[surreal wyvern]

Just got in, finished the tutorial, first thing I did when I got to base, obligatory dance by the jukebox 😅

[astral tinsel]

Earn your Beer, dirtbeard

[surreal wyvern]

Would a clip of the dancing help? 🤣

[shell dagger]

i fixed it, seems i didnt have up to date gpu drivers and then i had to restart my pc

[surreal wyvern]

Yeah, that do be an issue sometimes 😅

[shell dagger]

yea, i was a lil confused why i was getting an error, normally games work without needing a update but ill start keeping it in mind when ever i get a error

[surreal wyvern]

It works really good on the Steam Deck too, just FYI 😆 even better with FSR 😅

[shell dagger]

nice

i should try it on my ROG ally x

[surreal wyvern]

Word of caution, some of the symbols are a tad tiny unless you adjust the HUD size 😅

[shell dagger]

id bet lol

[surreal wyvern]

Took me a minute to find that setting (I'm not blind honest) 😅

[limpid comet]

worromot

rogue core

[teal lion]

They have been having issues with the discord link for the rc alpha channel access, if u can catch a moderator/dev online sometimes they can help out with some proof but as they just went on vacation ……

[astral tinsel]

I don't neeeed it, was just wondering. Hope they enjoy their vacay

[teal mica]

Is it not working like the page it took you to did not work?

Or it's not working like it jsut says 'not linked'. ?

[astral tinsel]

It asked me to authorize discord to do stuff, and then the redirect stops afterwards

[teal mica]

Ah. Yeah. Not working.

[astral tinsel]

So I can authorize, and then it tries to redirect to like discord.drg:21600 or something

[teal mica]

https://discord.com/channels/257785731072786435/1366343433442295828 So this says No Access, right?

[astral tinsel]

Indeed

[teal mica]

Yep, Ping Jenny - server nerd. No point right now, as they're not awake.

But they probably have to reset something on their end again.

[lapis spire]

Sup

[hushed merlin]

Tomorrow

[limpid comet]

we are unbreakable

rogue and tomorrow

[summer vortex]

lol, I Figured I'd do a Playtest survey even though I'm not gonna stop playing it, And a question showed up:
"How much do you like the current version of the game? *
From a scale from 1 - 5, where 1 is Not at all and 6 is I love it"

which means if I love the game I cant rate it 6 since it only going up to 5, so.... I found a bug in your Playtest survey..

[naive warren]

okay so picture this: I run out of ammo + no traversal skills to make me go faster + most enemies can just catch up to me since they run faster

what am I supposed to do in this situation??

[carmine zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/guess-ill-die-gif-9704573

[naive warren]

Isn't that going to be a super common uccurence except for the sword guy?

[carmine zenith]

it is a roguelike, you're not usually guaranteed to be able to clear every run in those

[weak tangle]

Devs said on the Rogue Core news that they had sent out more invitations for the playtest, but I don't see mine, so I think the devs were trolling

[carmine zenith]

also are you playing solo?

because that's another thing the game really isn't made for

[short yacht]

ROGUE CORE TOMORROW

[broken flame]

I mean

Yea just die then

[naive warren]

no but we're all newcomers yk so teamwork wasn't exactly super great

[naive warren]

facts

and I probably just managed my ammunition poorly; I didn't run into this problem during the next game (wasn't using the same gun tho)

[summer tiger]

Not having that issue, even when I started playing. But definitely you should be striving for Weakpoint damage enhancements

[summer tiger]

And what gun were you using

[naive warren]

My issue here is that I'm very bad at aiming, and I usually rely on area damage weapons in fps games. Skill issue pretty much. I'll get better as I play more

[naive warren]

Looked like a sniper but I could spam it idk

[limpid comet]

P-96 mag blaster?

[summer tiger]

So battlerifle. Yeah, without some upgrades you can run out of ammo pretty quickly. It gets better with anhancements

[echo grove]

im so sad
all my friends got into the alpha tests (I haven't) and they aren't even that into deep rock XD

[inner granite]

ask him to let you play

[echo grove]

is there any way for him to invite me or are the devs not allowing that?

[boreal plume]

there's no way to invite friends

because it's bugged

they disabled it months ago

[echo grove]

dang

[inner granite]

from where people even take an idea for it

i dont think they scroll like a lot of time down the hisotry tab

[old swift]

deadlock by a mile im sure

i don't even know if deadlock is sending out invites randomly anymore

all just direct friend invites

[tropic onyx]

hows everyone feeling about the game right now?

its been addicting af so far

[wheat river]

Have you already linked another account?

[austere quest]

yoooooooo

I just got in

did they just do an invite wave?

or is it becoming more available now

I did just get all 3 dwarves to plat promotion level

so idk

[ashen jewel]

2 wave was yesterday

[austere quest]

damn my mate didn't get in

[ashen jewel]

300-400 invites

[austere quest]

damn, I'm never gonna find any australian servers then I guess

[summer tiger]

There are people from Oceania that play

[austere quest]

sweet

it has been about a year since I applied XD

[waxen hamlet]

There was another invite wave, dam..... Better luck next time I guess.

[rare glacier]

to the play testers , does the game feel repetitive?

i enjoy drg alot so i’m curious on how rogue lite is on this

[lone tree]

anyone else spam the cockpit buttons before actaully doing anything lmao

[waxen hamlet]

Wish Elleis was in regualr DRG. I love molly but she is so slow.

[ashen forum]

Why does the game not actually close until I hit the stop button on Steam?

[steel eagle]

do we have an idea how much the rogue core will cost once release ?

[quaint sinew]

Sometimes it happening, I don't have a Playtest but it's the same problem with DRG for me

[ashen forum]

ah I see 🤔

[tall plume]

check the pinned messages

[steel eagle]

ok thankq

[formal magnet]

nah, roguelike makes each run different and there's a lot of variety even in just the alpha

[boreal plume]

RC has higher pacing

it would be unplayable with molly

but DRG is still fine

DRG doesn't give the miners good equipment sadly

[burnt swan]

even the reclaimers still complain DRG hasnt given them good equipment yet

[waxen hamlet]

I get that, it would be nice if R&D fixed her noggin a little.

[steel eagle]

i saw in the trailer too that is not just the bugs we fight but some sort of eldritch alien creature too

[boreal plume]

there are no bugs in Rogue Core other than lootbugs and the occasional bulk detonator event

we fight the core spawn there, you might know them from the core stone event in DRG

[tall plume]

actually, I've not even seen lootbugs in a while now...

[boreal plume]

oh no

[steel eagle]

the core spawn really make me think they are eldritch being because in the trailer i saw one of them it was giant with a large mouth in his chest and used it hand like sort of praying

[boreal plume]

yeah they are much more eldritch than the bugs

[steel eagle]

let's see which eldritch god have create them because there cthulhu and nyarlotothep

[boreal plume]

the core spawn grunts too, I mean look at their faces

[waxen hamlet]

I wonder how stuff like weapon cosmetics will work, if they ever are in the game.

[sage thorn]

Wait

I need to know

Is Karl mentionned in RC ?

[tall plume]

the "For Karl" shout is still there but that's about it

[sturdy vale]

i did have a weird bug yesterday where the dwarf voidces sounded like they were a mile away

[unborn orchid]

Omega lacks menacing bass

[sturdy vale]

i LOVE the voice of omega, but yeah he could do with some more menacing bass

[unborn orchid]

yup

i like too

[formal magnet]

There's a message on one of the screens in the Ramok talking about Karl

think it was a message about him not skipping leg day as encouragement

[waxen hamlet]

I bet Karl is going to be reason why the core is acting up. He either annoyed the creatures down there casuing them to lash out or he dug too deep and became one with the core. Turning all the creatures down there into mutated versions of himself.

[formal magnet]

I don't even think Karl is a real person

[frosty jackal]

Karl is the friends we made along the way

[formal magnet]

I like the theory he's made up by management to encourage miners/reclaimers to work harder like the soviets did with their workers ages ago

[tall plume]

the problem is that theory doesn't work since mission control nor management never mention him

[fresh patio]

core spawn are space monkeys

[vocal furnace]

anyone need an extra dwarf?

[chrome basin]

it would be a generational fumble to not have an karl encounter

his legend has grown too big

[sleek swallow]

karl isn't real

[chrome basin]

that's what the cowards that left him behind wants you to believe

[tall plume]

Karl's dead

[formal magnet]

he's mentioned in some of the mission names but outside of that yh

Karl was left behind on a mission based on what the dwarves say

[tall plume]

all we know is that we was lost and that beer might have to do something with it

my headcanon is that he was the driver of the bacon shuttle and he crashlanded on hoxxes due to being too drunk

that's why the bacon shuttle is never coming

[formal magnet]

Skull crusher ale is rumoured to be linked

[tall plume]

all we know is that we was lost and that beer might have to do something with it
yeah, that's what I meant there

[formal magnet]

yh

[snow plume]

starting to think there isnt a third boss?

[tall plume]

there is a 3rd boss

[snow plume]

where does it show up? :[

[tacit urchin]

Depth >3

That's not a smiley face

[snow plume]

oooooh

[tacit urchin]

:3 this is

[snow plume]

digging time

[vivid nest]

Someone say digging a hole?

[stray flume]

i had this too but it was most of the audio rather than just dwarf voices iirc

i think the only sfx that was normal was my pickaxe for some reason lol

[waxen hamlet]

I feel like that squidward meme. The one where he is looking out the window.

[stark edge]

I just got in and are the worm things supposed to be able to kill me and not let me revive?

[brave flume]

Does anyone else feel like the character voice lines seem to come from in the other room?

[north coral]

https://tenor.com/view/yanatwt-gif-22814884

[brave flume]

Didn’t get in?

[waxen hamlet]

Nope, hopefully next time.

[brave flume]

Would’ve been better you than me my laptop can barely handle the game

The doors are silent…

I don’t like that the doors are silent

[waxen hamlet]

Dam, that is a shame for you. But it is by random chance, do I can't be to upset.

[brave flume]

It can handle it enough to run at barebones setting so I’ll take what I can get

[waxen hamlet]

Fair enough. My Pc should be alright. It runs DRG pretty smoothly.

[brave flume]

It’s the reason I was excited for the Steam machine, but AI had to go and muck up the market

:(

Major reason I can’t play is because my router is doing kickflips or something instead of its job so I can’t get a game

[waxen hamlet]

Dam, that is a shame but the Ai industry is starting to get to big and is slowly falling. Hopefully one day it will be back to normal.

[brave flume]

Hopefully

[forest rain]

hello

Anyone from US playing rogue core? hard to find lobbies in the higher difficulties

[viral osprey]

finally opened my copy of rogue core, love the video message they give you it's so cute ❤️

[forest portal]

How do you get rogue core??? I thought it’s still in dev

[unique elbow]

you apply on the steam page for access 3 years ago

[forest portal]

Shucks

[snow plume]

deadlift mini game is bad

nah never doing that again lol

im just gonna accept im never getting that beer lol

[silent shell]

you can pet the vacuum bot

[formal magnet]

steam page has early access request button
it's totally random so you could still get an invite if they do one more but I don't think they've confirmed anymore than the current one rn

[formal magnet]

it's caused by the tutorial usually, restarting fixes it

[swift ginkgo]

I got access to it yesterday

I think it's certainly a fun game and it definetly has a lot of potential

[young gorge]

access, babeyyyyy

[waxen hamlet]

Lucky Ducky

[wispy musk]

Anyone OCE playing?

[hushed merlin]

Guys guess what

Tomorrow

[boreal plume]

Tomorroguecore

[rotund fox]

man the not bind for gamepad gernade is incredibly frustrating. Hoping we get hotfix for that.

[uneven orbit]

I cant connect to an open server (black screen), does anyone know how to fix it?

[lilac marten]

Is it game unbalanced or is am i noob and from 5 runs only 1 (first) has been succsesfull

[olive narwhal]

Its intended to be atleast somewhat difficult

[lilac marten]

I know but damn...

And all my somewhat good skill friends left outside of playtest((((

[olive narwhal]

Depth 1 probably needs some tinkering

[uneven orbit]

After a black screen, the message "connection to the server lost" appears

[olive narwhal]

Hit the link on the start screen of rogue core to get the discord role

It has a dedicated lfg channel

[bleak heath]

is there anyway to get a few more keys for friends to join the playtest?

[raven wharf]

No

Get lucky or buy the game in a few months

[lilac marten]

sORRY

[sharp salmon]

What do you mean?

[olive narwhal]

Might potentially be on the harder side of what they are targeting

[lilac marten]

I pressed join the discord button and nothing hapened

[olive narwhal]

You have the role gotta scroll down the channels a bit i think

[snow plume]

fix deadlift mini game please. thank you

[old prism]

the thunderhead heavy autocannon explosion effect just completely covers my screen when firing 😂 like literally 100% of my screen is the fiery explosion even when shooting at enemies far away

[burnt swan]

do you have poison trail?

[waxen hamlet]

I hope they keep the slicer perk's unique surfing. Or at least let me try it before they patch it out. Maybe evne keep it as a class perk for slicer.

[quiet finch]

Is there a way to rescind your rating of the game? There's a prompt asking whether or not you're liking the game or not, I accidentlaly clicked no and there was no way to back out.

[boreal plume]

Guys pack it up Rogue Core is cancelled thanks to this person

[hollow bear]

I don't think we can turn this ship around now

[quiet finch]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-15677826050545973054

[hollow bear]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-15677826050545973054

Because it's cute

[quiet finch]

im just that important

[old prism]

I did yes

[old prism]

the devastator really just gets no ammo for the little dmg is does

[boreal plume]

I think it's supposed to scale pretty well

but yeah the initial damage and ammo count is underwhelming on that gun

[old prism]

is it possible to make the crosshair just a white dot?

[stable perch]

anyone else experiencing latency issues or stuttering?

[old prism]

are most of the weapons suppose to feel really weak and you just constantly run out of ammo even if you hit 90% your shots like, honestly most the upgrades feel quite useless, idk if its balance around solo at all but the weapons deal literally no damage for how tanky and how many enemies there are, solo play feels awful imo

ngl not being able to call ammo and being forced to backtrack the entire level to pick some up is insane

[half wing]

is it me or did the recoil got overtuned in this update

almost every weapon I use I struggle aiming for more than a few milliseconds because the weapon's aim is already flying off everywhere

didn't remember it this unstable

didn't play this game's playtest since feb

[keen sierra]

Is there a +1 for friends?

[tall plume]

no

[keen sierra]

😢

[near thicket]

does anyone know if it’s possible to transfer a Rogue Core invite? My friend got in but he’s at a military academy right now and can’t exactly play

[ocean spindle]

You can play on his account, only working method

[near thicket]

Huh, I never thought of that. Thanks man, we’ll try it

[unborn orchid]

I want Omega to have a voice like the Cyclops from Subnautica

similar to

and as the danger grew, his voice would deepen

[maiden storm]

so.... what do i do with scrip

[hollow bear]

in the character customization terminal, bottom right there's a cosmetic sheet button

[leaden sentinel]

there are some cool beard cosmetics on that sheet

[leaden sentinel]

i kind of like the omega voice

[summer tiger]

Game is quite focused on hitting weakpoints. Once you do then ammo is not a problem. You can also equip ammo enhancements

[livid moss]

I just had a cool idea for the timer mechanics

what if, when you get common/uncommon upgrades in a level, their effects get multiplied at the end of the stage* based on how much time you have left?

*Only for the stage you got them from; i.e. get an upgrade on Stage 1, leave Stage 1 quickly to get up to 1.5x the effects.

[livid moss]

This could also be dictated by "How soon did you FIND the exit", which gives a back-and-forth dynamic:

• Spread out as a team to find and secure the exit?
• Once you're there, how far do you go back for all the optional objectives you saw along the way?
• Ask one person to go fetch the exit while eveyone else does objectives? (Or try to be that person and carry the entire team's power levels)

I haven't played Rogue Core yet, I just got these ideas on a whim.

(Really hope one of the devs sees this tho)

[broken flame]

I don't even own the game so there's that, but from what little I got to hear, it's not balanced around solo play.

[rotund nebula]

I don't think it really works with how rogue core plays from my experience
interesting idea but there's not a lot of room for finishing early in a stage unless you're playing depth 1 or maybe even 2
the margins for powering up your levels would be quite thin

[marsh night]

oh I just got access to closed alpha of rogue core

[limpid comet]

why not me karl...

[boreal plume]

today?

<@&296918282403840000>

[limpid comet]

I think checked the email late

[rotund nebula]

fr, send this man to the penis explosion chamber

[inner granite]

remove his gunk seeds

[raven wharf]

Another one who hasn't figured out 2fa

[inner granite]

or just got their token / cookies stolen

in that case even 100000000000fa wont help

[fickle rivet]

Oh my I got the Rogue Core invite and already I'm getting girls (shy)

[rotund nebula]

Thought about this a bit more, it might be a cool idea to have a modifier or some kind of mechanic around your luck being marginally better each level you go down so you'd be incentivised to risk not taking your level ups in the moment and saving them for a later floor for better upgrades
Not too much so you don't ever use the levels until the last moment but it would give a nice risk/reward if you have a level up at the end of a mission

[old prism]

Even hitting all shots on weak spots ammo is still heavily lacking in solo

[full geode]

Agreed

[glad crater]

I have a few questions for the playtesters:

1. Is the game fun?

2. Does the game work (Like are there no bugs)?

3. What do you think about the gameplayloop?

4. What is the game worth in price?

Thanks

[tall plume]

1. yes
2. the game work and there are a lot of bugs - which is why we have playtests in the first place
3. in what capacity ?
4. we don't know its price yet

[willow canopy]

if you think about it. the corespawn aren't really bugs anymore now are they

we can't claim that rogue core is supposed to be buggy, unlike drg

[tardy vale]

every game has bugs, theres no such thing as a bugless and perfect game

[raven wharf]

Factorio has come close, but I don't think they ever hit 0 known bugs.

[fickle rivet]

The main enemy is a bug, I think

[inner granite]

what you mean
there's a lot of bugs

unless you use power of democracy

[limpid comet]

[marsh night]

I just saw it today

[boreal plume]

Ah okay so it was the earlier waves

[marsh night]

probably the latest one, how many have access to it at the moment

[waxen hamlet]

Not enough people. Only joking, we will all have it soon.

[daring hill]

1. Yes
2. It works, but recent updates have hurt the game's performance quite a bit. That's to be expected though, and it'll be fixed come early access.
3. It's simple and largely unchanging, to a fault, I suspect that it will get very stale very quickly if it doesn't change (and it will.)
4. Unknown, but likely similar to DRG's price in early access, as well as a potential bundle for owners of DRG (unconfirmed.

[frank bane]

I have been getting tinder matches non stop since i got access to the rogue core playtest
My dms are flooded with women wanting to meet me
Also my hairline started growing back and i lost 10 pounds over night

Additionally i won the lottery 27 times since i got access

And my dog un-died

[waxen hamlet]

Are you Ok, cryo?

[frank bane]

Ever since i got an alpha invite i find it hard to be not ok anymore

[waxen hamlet]

I will happliy take your invite, if you don't want it. Haha

[frank bane]

You will have to tear it from my cold, dead steam account

[waxen hamlet]

Dam, I'll get you next time. Haha

[frank bane]

No worries man
I will come begging once you get access to the DRG2 super exclusive secret alpha (for confident people above 6 foot only)

[waxen hamlet]

I am 6'1, so that is a bonus, lol.

[frank bane]

I always knew you had it in you

I see great alpha access in your future

[waxen hamlet]

FOR KARL

[livid moss]

It could be a "grunt fantasy" thing, but for that case I'd want to make the enemies have some kind of special behavior for when they're specifically that tanky and scary. Half-taunting, half-"declaring how they can push forwards at you despite being shot"

Nailing home the fact they're horror enemies requires a little bit of extra SPECTACLE, because the guns are canonically better tech than what we get as "surface" Miners in DRG.

[livid moss]

That sounds amazing actually, for allowing veterans to express their skills in early-to-mid stages. Or even better, allow them to give their upgrades to other players and insist they'll pick up later upgrades.

...Actually, the ability to trade upgrades with each other would make the game a lot more interesting. Potential to be toxic, yeah, kinda, but also allowing you some freedom with upgrade management.

[frank bane]

The last dev team that went for the grunt fantasy is doing not so great rn

[broken flame]

Idk about that

[normal perch]

When is it coming to console 😢

[tall plume]

unknown

[normal perch]

Whats the rough estimate

3 months after early access?

A year after?

Never??

[tall plume]

there's none

we don't have a date nor a rough estimate

[normal perch]

Danm

Whens it coming out on pc then

[tall plume]

20th May for Early Access on Steam

[normal perch]

Yh we are prolly not getting it until atleast November

Thats if we r lucky

Wouldn't it sell better on console tho

[tall plume]

probably not

[normal perch]

Its demographic is 25-40 year old men (respectfully) and most ppl that age dont bother buying a pc and js get a console

Theoretically if they market it right they could get alot of players

[tall plume]

not only that's incredibly wrong, Steam also happens to have the largest video game market in the world - and it's not even close

[normal perch]

Interesting

[teal lion]

rough estimate would be 1.0 or sometime after

[normal perch]

What i would agree on is that they wouldnt have long term players

But I encounter so many new players on drg

Like less than 200 hrs

[tall plume]

not sure at all, DRG got on microsoft store before hitting 1.0 - and playstation had it after 1.0 (like 6-9 months after)

[normal perch]

Wdym

[teal lion]

most of the stores dont care for early access games unless its becomes popular enough they make exception to the rules - but also comes with more issues like how often u can update, when u can update, how long it takes to get a update approved etc

[normal perch]

Its js a 2 week delay on updates

Which isnt that bad

If they just wack it on ps plus or smth they'd probably earn a fast track on the waiting period

[teal lion]

it is when its multiplayer game, so any updates get delayed at minimum 2 weeks , assuming it gets approved and doesnt have an issue

[normal perch]

Thats not a big problem tho

[teal lion]

it is when u dont have a update schedule, and its making everything take longer

[normal perch]

They dont care when they go a year without updates

[teal lion]

if only every consumer could be like that

[normal perch]

Wdym

[teal lion]

that they dont care if it takes a year+ for updates

[normal perch]

I mean noone would even know that the update took 2 weeks longer if they didnt say anything

[teal lion]

unless ur saying u dont care about the devs concerns because they dont work on the game anyways

no they wouldnt know they would just be like WHY IS THIS BUG STILL EXISTING, stupid dev team 🔥 🔥 🔥

[normal perch]

Thats not exactly what I saying

It does piss me off that such a big game like drg takes a year to get 1 update

That yes is pristine quality

[inner granite]

I don't know full contex of discussion, but DRG and most likely RC won't have crossplatform, so no delay on Steam version

[tall plume]

DRG is not really a "big game" tho

[normal perch]

It is

It just doesnt have a content community

[inner granite]

GSG has 1 and a half games on their account
Unless you count some mobile games from long past

[normal perch]

Im pretty sure the discord server has more members than sea of theives

[inner granite]

Which total to maybe 0.25 games

[normal perch]

Which is a triple A game on my opinion

And a massive community

[tall plume]

the size of the discord doesn't reflect the size of a game tho

[normal perch]

Idk how to measure

The amt of ppl

[tall plume]

look at player acount instead

[normal perch]

Ok

Lemme check

[inner granite]

13 vs 10, for DRG

[tall plume]

reminder that Sea of Thieves also was a microsoft store exclusive for the longest time

and that most of its community is still over there

[inner granite]

In top players 24h

SoT is dying so it is poor example

[inner granite]

Right, non steam playerbase

Can't easily check that tho

Or at least I don't know how

[tall plume]

I don't think there's a way to check

I don't know of one, rather

[normal perch]

About 12k avrg for drg

[tall plume]

but yeah SoT has been massively popular at the time

[normal perch]

10k avrg for spr

Sot

[inner granite]

That's just steam

SoT has crossplatform

[normal perch]

B4 2025 drg easily averaged 15k+ players

[normal perch]

Its pretty dead

[inner granite]

Plus, sot is poor example
It is dying game

[normal perch]

Respectfully drg is on the same decline

[inner granite]

Top players for DRG and SoT: ~50 and ~60

[normal perch]

Thats extremely impressive

[inner granite]

Haven't seen GSG actively screw over their players

[normal perch]

Yeah

God the SOT community is so awful

Its just different toxic bubbles that all hate each other

I could go on a 2 hour rant abt it

[tall plume]

aight, time to get back to Rogue Core instead

[normal perch]

Yup

[normal perch]

But we live in a world where monthly updates are the norm

And yearly just isnt cutting it anymore

[inner granite]

One last point before i head to bed

DRG playerbase is growing
SoT is growing too, but down

[tall plume]

no we don't

even to this day, the vast majority of games are not going for monthly updates of content

[normal perch]

The only exception is games thst drop big updates every few months

Like SOT

[inner granite]

Silksong, hollow knight, RimWorld...

[tall plume]

game as a service that actually don't die within a year or two are the exceptions - and these who don't are often free to play (like Warframe)

[normal perch]

Idk anything abt those games

Im talking multiplayer games btw

SOT for example drops an update every like 3 months I think

[inner granite]

I hate "as service"
Take a break from a game, come back and have no idea what's going on

[normal perch]

Arc which was a small dev team had monthly big updates b4 it exploded

[inner granite]

I pretty much can't go back to HD2 beacuse i have no idea what's going on there

[normal perch]

That is a problem i agree

But drg wouldn't suffer from thst problem

Because there are no new features

New areas new missions new oc new cosmetics

I took a long break when season 5 csme out and came back a month after season 6

So 2 seasons

I didnt feel confused at all

[carmine zenith]

This particular attitude is known as

https://tenor.com/view/entitlement-spongebob-rainbow-wow-gif-13474513533657300731

[tall plume]

you can't continuously pile up new content without the game getting bloated

Unless you purposefully build up new systems and leave the old ones behind (again, just look at Warframe)

[teal lion]

i will refrain from commenting because me and my friends are weird we still play pvp in space marine 2, u know the game mode that shouldnt exist and has had 0 updates and will recieve 0 updates but we still love to punch noobs

[umbral tendon]

I think my access to the experimental channels are broken, do I need to get Jenny to fix it?

[tall plume]

did you click the ingame button ?

[normal perch]

I understand that and im not requesting monthly updates

That would be insane

I just wish the updates were bigger

Or every 6 months

[umbral tendon]

I reacted to the post and clicked the ingame linker

[normal perch]

I cant help but feel jealous when watching the spin offs get new roles and new guns and whatever when weve been stuck with the same stuff for years

[carmine zenith]

It may very well be the norm for games you like to play, but like pounce said, it is absolutely not the norm across the board. It is perfectly fine for a game to not get constant or even regular updates and cosmetic or microtransaction pushes. Most games are not live service games, and DRG is not one either. The fact that we're getting anything at all 6-8 years in (depending on if you count the public alpha or not) is already pretty impressive, and the game is quite honestly content complete as it is.

[normal perch]

Then they either need to go full on into newer games like rogue core or focus mainly on drg

[tall plume]

I said it before but I'll say it again : GSG should have never used the word "season".

I know why they did it, but it was not a good decision

[normal perch]

Agreed

Makes it harder to have small updates in between big ones

[tall plume]

not particularly, but the word carries some expectations and these expectations weren't met - and it confused (and still is confusing) players

[carmine zenith]

It's fine that you enjoy drg and want it to keep growing, but the expectations you're harboring are likely to never be met and that is in fact not the dev's problem at this point.

If they do, great! If they don't, that is also ok.

[normal perch]

When i saw that video abt rogue core yesterday (yes I didnt know what it was until yesterday at 1 am while I was falling asleep) I was obsessed with it

But It feels like the devs are conflicted

Or being way too safe

Like js leave a small team on drg

Go all in on this amazing new refresh

[tall plume]

they're doing that right now

that's why S6 was made by another studio

[normal perch]

Woah

[teal lion]

i was about to say aint a different team branch handling deep rock galatic updates

[normal perch]

I didnt know what

That*

My auto correct is acting up today

[teal lion]

also the reason why rogue core is getting made and not just being a update or dlc for deeprock, is core mechanics clash with each other - they didnt want fire and ice fighting each other in a random generated game as an example

[normal perch]

I see that no

Now*

The main idea is the choosing different stuff mid game

Like balatro

And the drg related stuff is just the outer casing of what there vision was of drg

Liek the new classes and stuff

But they saw that this would fit it better

And they are right

Running a game for 6+ years in the same foundation (like drg) will make the game feel outdated

Which is kinda happening with drg

Like I accidentally deleted my save files in my storage and my entire drg account was wiped

In conclusion

I now agree with u since I now know the full picture

[tall plume]

did you try to recover it from the steam cloud ?

[normal perch]

Im on ps5

I only had 70 hours on the game at that time

I did ask around in this server

About a year ago

And they had no clue why

[tall plume]

ah rip

[normal perch]

The save file thing is just a theory

I have no clue what happened

It wiped my no mans sky progress too

And I think my Minecraft worlds too

Its really dumb that drg doesnt have a 3rd party way to save account progress

[tall plume]

what's really dumb is sony forcing you to play for cloud services

[normal perch]

Fair

Ive never in my 10 years of gaming have thought "oh I want to save this in the cloud"

[spark vine]

hi

[snow plume]

damn the leap in difficulty from depth 2 to 3 is like crazy

[umbral tendon]

Im quite happy with how the difficulty feels in this game, just wish there were some flying enemies

[snow plume]

i gotta like grind or something for better enhancements or something sheesh

i do really like how progression is handled tho

the gauntlet is cool

i cant remember did they talked about something simaliar to overclocks? i know there wont be overclock-overclocks cause cause you get stuff one each run, im just wondering what the blue-sky stuff is

[snow plume]

idk if this is a bug or not but the gear options dont change between gauntlet runs

[umbral tendon]

Im hoping they eventually get around to adding some longer term things to progress towards as well, clearly its not needed for the alpha though

[snow plume]

jesus what perk do you need to survive depth 3

[umbral tendon]

Its not too difficult with others, D3 is reasonably difficult solo

Nimble 4 was the game changer for me though, just being able to resupply / complete events and elevator button quickly ends up being critical when enemies are constantly attacking you

[snow plume]

finally fought the new boss!

shame its tedious and annoying

[umbral tendon]

Wait which one is the new one?

Edit: Nvm you mean the spider thing right?

[tardy vale]

wait theres a spider enemy/boss in the game?

i hope theres an arachnophobia toggle then, my gf has really bad arachnophobia..

[old swift]

it has 4 tall straight legs in a square arrangement, doesn't really look like a spider imo

[limpid comet]

strider

[old swift]

its basically just hl1 gonarch

[rare glacier]

is mission control still talking in rogue core?

[boreal plume]

I've seen some voice lines

But he might be only talking when you are new to the game

[boreal plume]

It's more Metagross than spider.

I doub't they would add an arachnophobia toggle if it had spiders though

they would've added that do drg if they wanted

[rare glacier]

dang i wished he was as present as he is in drg

but ig it makes rogue core feel different in a way

[boreal plume]

yeah

[heady storm]

Why does it say I lost a run in the run history when I very much didn't? 😭

[solid nimbus]

how do i link my discord to rogue core?

its still showing not linked

[boreal plume]

you have the role

it's linked rn

[solid nimbus]

then whys the game saying "Status: not linked" 😭

[boreal plume]

idk but you have the role, you should be able to see rogue core specific channels

check that if you can

[solid nimbus]

i can yes

ig it doesnt matter then

[boreal plume]

probably not

[summer tiger]

It's a bug, when you reload it will be correct

[heady storm]

Ah yes there we go

[mighty portal]

Is there a way to invite a friend into playtest? I got it but he didn't

[summer tiger]

No

[mighty portal]

Unfortunate

[umbral tendon]

Man 3rd time joining a lobby with someone just perma team freezing me over and over

Its rough out there

Gotta wonder why people would grab the early access key and then just use it to grief the people actually in testing the game

[boreal plume]

Leaf lover I guess

[steel eagle]

i think i gonna buy rogue core at his release day since at april 15 it will be my birthday i gonna keep save a few money so when the game release next month i will be ready to divein the deep core

i think of this because ghosts ship so far did well with deep rock galactic so why not i go too in rogue core

and the thing i like is that ghost ship unlike most game company build the game out of passion and fun not for microtransaction and other bad stuff most game company do but at least it is nice to see a game company like ghost ship doing the game for passion and love

i just wanted to give my compliment

[boreal plume]

Yeah they are very consumer friendly

Look at the season passes

[steel eagle]

these day is very rare to see game company like them most use ai slop microtransaction and other very bad stuff thing so this is why i give this gratitute compliment because they deserve it

[boreal plume]

I bought every single drg dlc to support them

Gonna do the same for rogue core but I'm curious what the dlcs are going to be like

Cosmetic or new classes like drg survivor

[steel eagle]

i found very interesting we are getting dwarf female and they can have beards like the good classic stuff

[boreal plume]

Going to buy it nonetheless, I'm sure I will have at least 200 hours of playtime and for around 30~ dollars that is very much worth it for me

I'm getting bored of nightreign lol

[sick kayak]

I really like playing closed alpha, can't wait to buy it in early access and hope we will see much more variety in each run, currently runs often feel the same.

Only wonder how much it will cost, gotta save up a little to buy it in a month and a half

[inner mortar]

is linking discord to ingame account still bugged

[oak locust]

is there a rogue core screenshots and vid channel? I'd like to browse some of those just to see what some of the stuff looks like

[boreal plume]

I think it got improved

[boreal plume]

you probably need access to the game for those channels

you could look up youtube videos

[oak locust]

good idea yeah

Oh also what is the estimated price of the game going to be on release?

[tall plume]

https://tenor.com/view/check-the-pins-kowalski-penguin-gif-20219688

[boreal plume]

was about to link that message

[normal knot]

How am i meant to kill the ramok gatekeeper

[boreal plume]

make it charge into the crystals that hold the balls

[summer tiger]

Make it charge into crystals. Even if you ping it dwarves tell you you need to allow it to charge at you when you stand behind the crystal

[rugged mortar]

Does anyone know if GSG has definitively answered if we lose all our progress made during the playtest? I don't have high hopes since a lot of stuff is sure to change and I bet my progress'll be reset, just wondering. Maybe they said something about a cosmetic reward for playtesters.

[boreal plume]

No cosmetic rewards and your progress will be deleted

playtesters lose their progress between alpha versions anyways

[rugged mortar]

ah ok

good to know, thx

[boreal plume]

np

[rugged mortar]

when does this playtest end btw?

[tall plume]

when the game comes out

[boreal plume]

a reward for early access players would be nice tho

[tall plume]

so on May 20th

[tall plume]

maybe we'll get a hat or something, just like in DRG

[normal knot]

Just wondering, are alpha tester gonna get some "reward" for play testing? Im not asking for anything im just wondering. First game ive tried in alpha

Someone asked the same as i was writing lmao

[boreal plume]

lol

[inner granite]

Your reward is playing early

And for free

[tall plume]

and getting to give early feedback

which also is part of the reward IMO

[summer tiger]

Yes we will, because it is a different product. Also the game has several bugs that can only be solved when you clear the save.

And I don't expect any special rewards for being chosen randomly by devs. If it was like in DRG that Early Access that they reward those few for their trust then sure but since RC is going to have more people playing from the get go then there should be no reward.

[rugged mortar]

yeah I agree, just wanted to get some info

[fickle rivet]

LFG in EU timezone, I've just started rank 0

[acoustic edge]

Was there a patch? looks like all my progress just got reset

[oak locust]

Will the requirements to run this game be similar to DRG?

Also when it releases will it immediately release on console as well as steam? I'm trying to see if I need to invest in a better computer

[tall plume]

most likely higher

[tall plume]

we don't know if it's coming to console yet

[oak locust]

D:

[tall plume]

probably, but that hasn't been confirmed

[oak locust]

oh nos

When might information regarding that be released

[tall plume]

there were multiple patches, depends on how long it was since you last played

[tall plume]

🤷‍♂️

no idea

[oak locust]

Or is there like a question box thing where that could be asked

[carmine pier]

All I've heard is that they want to do console but are unsure whether they can or not

[sleek swallow]

console will come after early access

[formal magnet]

@royal briar you mentioned wanting the engineer's turret in the game and it is currently in the game. Idk if it was added this alpha but it's a piece of equipment you can unlock in mission

[sleek swallow]

it's not happening for a while

[formal magnet]

On high settings I get 160 on Drg and about 140-80 on rogue core. But when I turned shadows to low my frames doubled so it's still pretty well optimized

I was able to get RC running on a 15 year old server which is pretty impressive on ghost ships end

[tall plume]

yeah, even in DRG, shadows are a pretty big performance hit

[formal magnet]

It's a large dark room with moving light sources, the game still looks good with shadows turned down which is nice

[quaint sinew]

Was there a new update? I've just seen Tiktok with new vacuum cleaner robot that you can pet

[formal magnet]

Alpha 6 like a week ago

[waxen hamlet]

Please let there be more tests before relaese. I really want to get in.

[formal magnet]

The games super fun but it's still unfinished you're not missing out on anything. It'll be better when it comes out in 6 weeks

Progress doesn't carry over or anything

[boreal plume]

Buying the game is guaranteed to get you in

I would rather do that than wait for luck

Not everyone will have the money though, understandable

[waxen hamlet]

I mean yeah, it will be more complete but I still would not mind trying it. I plan to buy it, anyways.

[limpid comet]

I can't wait 6 weeks...

6 weeks waiting is too harsh

[waxen hamlet]

So true, dude.

[prisma bobcat]

Steam's return policy works well enough for Rogue Core. It is completely valid under the policy to request a refund for a game on the grounds of you not liking it given you played for less than 2 hours (sometimes even more depending on your jurisdiction and the strength of consumer rights there).

2 hours is about enough to get through two runs to decide if you remotely like the game or not.

Generally I'd say that anyone who enjoys hazard 5 DRG and roguelikes should enjoy Rogue Core

[boreal plume]

then I'm going to love it

[short yacht]

Rogue core tomorrow

[boreal plume]

in 43 days

[lilac marten]

I think game should be bit more forgiving when timer is up

Not easy peasy but not imposible either

[formal magnet]

I like that the timer ending is actually a threat

currently it just spawns in a bunch of enemies and 1- a few tentacles so it's not too hard to deal with if you're near the elevator

[sleek swallow]

I remember at some point that it was so easy you can just literally run around as if it didn't exist

[olive narwhal]

Your sorta still can

[sleek swallow]

I mean yeah but it was so laughably unthreatening before that even if you played badly it wouldn't make a difference

[formal magnet]

I'm pretty sure there's more testicles with more players as solo it's still not much of a threat

[cursive ridge]

Is that some sort of sword in the new picture for Rogue Core?

[paper dirge]

As a decent DRG player I found myself struggling with the starting difficulty level in RC. So I'm pumped that there will be a learning curve and it won't just be a full skill transfer

[paper dirge]

Yeah there's a class with a slice ability. Dunno if there's an actuall sword equipment item.

[boreal plume]

No sword equipment currently

Only slicers ability

[plush cape]

sorry for randomly showing up. BUt it would be so awesome if they did that. Right now I just run slicer with enhancements that decrease pickaxe cool down and make monsters drop red sugar.

[boreal plume]

I think they said that it's hard to design a purely melee class in a shooter game

The upgrades you find wouldn't work that well + ammo issues go poof for you

It would be awesome but I dont expect it to happen

[plush cape]

you think? Oh yeah I can see it.

[boreal plume]

I'm not 100% sure if the devs talked on this topic, that why I said I think

[plush cape]

Yeah, the melee would be very reliant on range for a decent portion of the game for sure. Cave leaches

[unborn orchid]

same enhancements stacks?

[boreal plume]

Yes

[plush cape]

My fault I do not mean to sound mean, just more of a pondering response.

[formal magnet]

in DRG melee weapons were ruled out likely the same for RC

[plush cape]

I love the increase speed when damaging monsters.

[boreal plume]

No no I just wanted to explain myself

No problem

[unborn orchid]

too

[unborn orchid]

ty

[plush cape]

Ah gotcha, perfect then! we be using brain power.

[plush cape]

Turn into barry allen the dwarven flash....

Hey Sealo how did you verify playtesting for Rogue Core

[formal magnet]

in game when you load in on the first screen there's a discord icon or something

it gives you access to the RC playtest channels

[plush cape]

I think, my brothers account got linked then...RIP

He signed into my PC without me knowing (in browser)

😭

I used the link in the game, I hope it doesnt properly connect.

[plush cape]

ty

[formal magnet]

it should just ask for permission for a bot to grant you the role

you can always ask a mod if it got linked wrong

[plush cape]

Aight thank you.

[teal rivet]

Finally got to play Rogue Core and man it sucks so much. Maybe mainly because I played solo but the gameplay loop is way worse and boring than in original Deep Rock Galactic

[unborn orchid]

i hate deepdive with this script death worms, its boring, but i like to make builds

[teal rivet]

Buildcrafting is almost impossible from how boring upgrades and mutations are

[boreal plume]

I think you should be able to unlink it in the game. If you can't, sending a DM with your steam id to this dev shouldn't be a problem #rogue-core-chat message

[unborn orchid]

50/50

[plush cape]

Oh nice! Thank you!! Wow!

[paper dirge]

I found the a couple of interesting builds, but yeah, they need fleshing out

[teal rivet]

Ok I checked the wiki there are some builds I can think of from there, just with current upgrades system you have almost zero control of what upgrades you choose

[paper dirge]

I was giggling playing a "first bullet is crit, reload one bullet on enemy death" build

[plush cape]

I will see if I can unlink the account...

[teal rivet]

3 upgrades choice is pathetic

In a pool of one hundread or more possible upgrades

[paper dirge]

are you trying to offer advice or just slam the devs choices

[teal rivet]

If I see a problem that doesn't mean I have a solution for it

[paper dirge]

Well then maybe you shouldn't be so harsh

[mossy ruin]

you get to see more upgrades when in a team

[formal magnet]

that's for solo groups have 5

the choice between 2-5 items or even 1 is pretty standard for most rogue likes

[teal rivet]

I just don't want to eat shit because I picked cryo grenade and an energy rifle while the game offers me upgrades for fire

[formal magnet]

you get anywhere from 10-30 upgrades a game some are going to be bad for your build no matter what, the odds of getting 3 options that hinder you are very slim with how varied the upgrade pool is

[mossy ruin]

and you can just pick health

[teal rivet]

This is what annoys me roguelikes the most and no one tried to do anything about that

The game is decided from the seed

[mossy ruin]

what would you do about it?
let the player reroll options untill they get a god build every time?

it's part of game knowledge to avoid upgrades that would badly impact your build

and in many roguelites you don't get anything for skipping, in here at least you get health

[unborn orchid]

adaptation

[teal rivet]

Yes make adaptation better

[tardy vale]

damn its almost like randomness and luck is the entire point of roguelikes/lites huh

[plush cape]

crazy

lol

[teal rivet]

Anyway the main offender from this game is the common combat. You just juke enemies in circles, especially in holdout zones and if you dare to stop sprinting your health is gone

Enemies come faster than you can kill them

[waxen hamlet]

I wonder how cosmetics and dlc cosmetics will work, specifically the weapons. Will there be any, it would be cool if there was and how would they work?

[boreal plume]

we don't know

[formal magnet]

you can customise all the reclaimers currently

[boreal plume]

I would like to know if we will get any streams this month

they haven't posted any schedules yet, so I assume no

[mossy ruin]

because they are most likely on holidays

[boreal plume]

ah right, easter

[mossy ruin]

I doubt we wouldn't have streams for the entire month

[inner granite]

from what i remember, devs said no cosmetics for weapons

way too much work with how many guns there will be

[waxen hamlet]

Fair enough. I do see that some of the old weapons have a random chance to have them, so that is neat.

[boreal plume]

they could probably do individual cosmetics but frameworks like DRG would be too hard

and frameworks complicated updating DRG too, so they most likely won't do that mistake again

[hazy tusk]

Yep

Which is a shame, because God do I love some of the newer frameworks, but it's very understandable

If they ever do a DRG 2 I think I would be pretty content if they decided to drastically reduce the number of frameworks but focus on the ones which really change the design of the guns. Which seems counterintuitive, but I'd rather have one or two Diesel Driven level frameworks versus a dozen Glyphid Trophy Hunter or Infected level frameworks

[inner granite]

DRG 2
Let me stop you right there

[olive hound]

New guns with nice colors, that's all.
The color palette of guns should follow similar rules to DRG right?

[hazy tusk]

I mean, why not? They've mentioned, iirc, that they're only so much they can do to add to the original game at this point simply due to tech debt/feature creep. I'm not saying any time soon, but say, like, a decade from now, if they were to start again (and reexamine how they handle frameworks in the process) I think that's how I'd hope for it to go

As far as RC goes I think it's too much of a logistical nightmare, and it doesn't matter much anyway. You're not really going to get attached to a specific gun due to the nature of random weapon retrievals, etc etc

I wouldn't mind getting paint jobs though

[wheat river]

DM me with your steam id if the unlink doesn't work

[hushed merlin]

Tomorrow

[broken flame]

Cuz they probably aren't gonna do a DRG 2

[hazy tusk]

I mean, yeah, probably not