#rogue-core-chat
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yeah, I believe a lot will change from Alpha launch to EA launch, but that's still a big headstart to translate stuff and see how all the components are connected
The connections and consistency are crucial for good localisation imo, especially with names like weapon names (CRSPR Flamethrower), enemy names (glyphids or corespawn for RC)
Ack, I dont know how to put my thoughts in english rn
For example we had to change the name for Spitball Infector in polish once the Barrage Infector was added, because this new enemy gave us new context about Infector naming
Localization won't be in place at the beginning of closed alpha at least, but will be implemented shortly after, then not sure when the crowdin will go public since there is still plenty of things to do before that is ready
...
How it's called now
Kuloplujec or something?
As you say, we don't want you to have to do duplicate or wasted work, so it will be closer to when things are ""more rigid "", but early access is still early access so remaking things and possibility for larger changes is the point ✌️
We want to do our best to respect your time is what I'm trying to say 😅
Sure thing! Thanks for clarification!
It was "Toksyczny Kuloplujec", but then we changed it to "Kuloplujec Truciciel". Here Infector was changed from adjective to noun. But it's just an example among all the attempts to keep the consistency in naming
There was some similar issue with pretorian (i think cold variant?)
The naming of glyphids and other creatures was a bit messed up, but we cleared it up a while ago.
Btw let's move to #babelfish-lounge I guess
We'll be primarily focusing on getting the game to where it needs to be before we are looking into translations and such.
Not sure. We talked about setting it up for translators at our standup today, so it's in the back of our minds at least. As for when, I'm not sure.
We spawn them in and sometimes cool shit spawns on top of them, other times you can also interact with them such as elevators, lights, other mechanisms.
Yes.
It's also a good chance to let us know what you think of the game as it helps us in development as well.
Are there turrets?
Immortal maggot
hello guys . How to play rogue core ?
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Immortal Snail 🐌
Also, its now out yet
Yes
Anders, favourite silly thing in the game
I love DRG, i'm hoping i can help shaping Rogue Core into a gaming experience everyone can enjoy as well once the main release is out. 👍
I hope there will be a rocket-launcher type main weapon in this game, I love shooting with projectiles
Take for instance this heavy caliber tripod mounted lil' old number designed by me, built by me, and you best hope... Not pointed at you.
We're getting swarmed!
It’s fine now
THERES ONE HELL OF A BLIP COMING YOUR WAY, GET READY
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
we have 4... wait 6... wait 12... A LOT of aliens coming your way!
Interacting with lights?
I wonder if this is gonna end up like some of my other games where you can barely make out enemies in the shadows and they briefly pass light while approaching
Could play nicely into the horror aspect
That would be cool as a modifier.
Just unnatural darkness looms in a cave
They mentioned a modifier called “Extreme Darkness” in one of their dev streams
Yipee
There’s an enemy in hades 2 that creates a field of darkness around it and hides enemies until you get close. Something like that would be really cool for an enemy in rogue core
thats just called holding f to turn off yer flashlight
True
Hopefully tomorrow with the dev stream we get some more insights to when and where guys! For rock and....
Hello fellas, any news on the alpha?
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Yeah but i was wondering if they already choose the ppl to participate in it
Howdy fellas, any news on the economy? I'd like to see the stock prices of minerals like how they do on the mineral trade terminal in the spacerig.
Rocks are down, stones are up
i knew my stone investment would pay off eventually
it's random, they're not gonna go and handpick people one by one
Warning: Darkness
"Our scanners have detected an extraordinary amount of unclassified fungus that periodically emit spores in form of a thick black mist that is hard to penetrate with classic headlights and flares. RnD recommends taking more powerful light sources on the mission to these cave systems or stay careful and learn to navigate the caves the other way than with your eyesight. DRG doesn't include supplies for this type of inconvenience at work."
Oooh I like that

Getting some big helldivers PTSD twitches here 
no, i don't have PTSD
PTSD has me
Day 13 of waiting for rogue core alpha access
It’s coming out tomorrow (it was revealed to me in a dream)
Would be incredibly based of GSG ||(its my 21st tomorrow and a very large mug of beer to go with rogue core would be the best gift)||
Trying my damndest to not be impatient, though
I wake up
<—>
Tomorrow rogue core comes out
I'm playing right now
Send your stream account info as proof
and dont forget the password this time 👀
If your wrong I'm showing up at your house
We’re going to reclaim your bs
We sent the reclaimers to this chatters house, let's watch what happens when they see the ants in his walls
Bugs... In the walls... Loads Fatboy
Bugs in the walls? More like bugs in the 50 meter crater
Rogue Core tomorrow 
if i dont get access tomorrow im gonna be so upset
Rogue core tomorrow
Tomorrow core rogue
Core tomorrow rogue
i bet someone called it a fat core and it got angry
just a note to all dwarfs to be nice to cores
Rogue tomorrow core
this rogue? core.
The Core is going to pick Rogue as its class?
This (rogue) core…. To hold… me?
👀 wonder when will be the playtest start
you wont rogue me when im core
Rogue core in 3999
hang on Ashley, this core is getting rogue
Rouge core confirmed tommorow if it doesn't happen tmr we know who to blame
Its tomorrow y'all, no rogue core :(
We can only hope you can change the future
Ive got 2 more hours
And if anything is should theoretically drop aroubd the time of the deep dive reset, if it were to drop tomorrow
Theoretically
the ~~silk~~dwarfsanity is real
whats the word on this?
hey um. Do you know how much it takes for getting into the beta testing?
A steam store search and 2 clicks
yeah I am aplied to it but I just didn't get access
Noone has yet
Its still Coming Soon™
I know I am just inpatient as heck lmao
We all are fjsjd
It is now tommorow for the cool timezones too and still no rogue core 😞
Yeah some lights you can turn on, others can be destroyed. Just minor things for now.
We tried it. It doesn't work very well unfortunately.
I actually already got access, but I don't have time to play as I am too busy playing Silksong and Half-Life 3
It's funny cus at least on of those things are real
Its half life 3
Yes ofc
Unfortunate indeed. Technical issues or just unfun?
Unfun.
But I like suffering 
Turn the brightness on your monitor down
Should just make the silent hill fog instead
Thats kinda what I was expecting. Just gloomy
how do I get into the closed alpha?
Click the button in rogue core steam page and pray
Answer our riddles three
I mean riddles yeah
Then the alpha will belong to thee
ok great
Excited for the key in my inbox when I wake up tommorow morning 🙏🙏 (I am coping)
Now I know youre lying, half life 3 is a myth
Next game will be half life 235
1, 2, alyx
3 isn't real
it can't hurt you
Well have it so you can only see a max range away
considering a lot of DRG content will be reused in RC, will RC be a much bigger game by the end of EA? since presumably there will be a lot of added content on top of the reused DRG stuff (weapons, cosmetics, equipment, etc) or will the size of the game be offset by a more limited amount of gamemodes due to the roguelite aspect?
we don't know if cosmetics will be reused
but yeah, there for sure will be more weapons and classes
and this is not confirmed by any means, but I would agree with you that there will be like one or maybe just a few gamemodes
There is currently 9 new weapons, 4 new classes, with more of both basically guaranteed
the only reused content so far is biomes, part of the equipment, and 1-2 enemies. Ofc there's the graphic style and cave generation but I don't consider this to be "content".
That's not really a lot.
Even biomes isn’t exactly reused
They slowly all become core biomes
still partly used so it counts in my book
Fair enough
But yeah there’s really not much besides weapons and biomes
I’d assume some cosmetics
hey, there's the crawler too ! 
Like I doubt we don’t get stuff like clean shaven and the basic drg beards
In a way that’s a rogue core to DRG and not a DRG to rogue core
idk if I would assume that
weapon paintjobs, maybe
but the dwarf models seem pretty different
and some cosmetics wouldn't fit the tone
yeah but it came to DRG first (for players) so good enough to call it reused content
Hard to say, we have no idea how cosmetics work yet
All weapons are in like rustic ocean deepcore
that's fair
as for the rest, it's way too early to know where RC will end
I thought most weapons were being reused
maybe it will get much bigger, maybe it won't
I mean, they are
I assume that's the end goal, with more weapons on top ofc
I do hope the cosmetics won't all be "badass" to fit the tone
I don't think you'll see many silly cosmetics
or at all
assuming we get cosmetics in the same way we did in DRG
If we don't have jiggly cosmetics at the very least
All of them
It's pitchfork time
We’ve seen every drg weapon in rogue core besides I think the microwave and coilgun
But if we have over half it’s pretty obvious they’ll all be there
Oh also haven’t seen the ommoran
hmm that's kind of sad, I like my silly dwarves
hope there'll be some variety of badassery at least
So I guess just the three alt secondaries, maybe they aren’t in yet or none were in the footage
if that's their vision so be it
probably but it's too early to tell nowadays
they're not really thinking of cosmetics rn it seems
understandable
There’s a high likelyhood the alpha won’t even have them
i would like to know if the inventory of the Reclaimers only accept certain kind of guns
no
Like 1 primary, 1 secondary, 1 utility
oh
the movement equipment from DRG is in as well right? but it's decoupled from classes?
And if ammo/health pack consume an inventory slot
yes
no grappling hook
grappling hook is in RC
that's really great, probably the thing I look most forward to
huh, that's weird
because I am pretty sure I saw some dev here say it isn't
decoupled equipment already makes for a lot of build variety
Again: every drg weapon has been seen besides the three final secondaries
I'm really excited haha
Including movement
that was in february though
honestly I think it would be best if it wasn't in
you can still find it but it's a rare
- everyone will pick it
- it's overpowered when you can grapple around with a minigun or something
its a "rare high moment" as developers say
have people been giving access yet?
Rare… how? Like rocket boots in DRG type of rare; rarer, less rare?
it's fine for a roguelite imo
it's a coop roguelite
Thank you
I don't think having instapick items is a good idea
there are so many layers of assumptions here lol
why are you so sure it's an instapick item?
I prefer drills over grapple
for example
fast
it's pretty normal coming from DRG to have this vision, but no, the grappling hook isn't an instapick
chances are you will only see one grapple hook show up in the list anyway
Rare? I prefer my grabbling hook medium well
my assumptions are: it works like in drg
its certainly an instapick for me, im soooooo impatient
People complain about grapple being op and there’s probably currently an enemy that just eats you out of the sky 
Cheese platform > hook
now THAT is balancing!
because it gives insane survivability and mobility without consuming any resource
I think you are just mad because you dont know how to use a grappling gun:)))
Jkjk
huh
There’s ways to solve this. Just give it limited uses per level.
wrong bad and banned
Ammo for the grappling hook
Cursed
I think making balance assumptions is very stupid when we don’t have the game
And, considering how soon we’re gonna get it and it’s going to be very open, we may as well shelve this conversation for like 2 weeks and then come back lol
maybe
This is the right approach
Just give the grappling hook the same speed as ziplines 
It’s a roguelite. People on occasions ARE going to find op weapons or builds. Not a valid reason for it to not be in the game
I understand this, I played my fair share
but this is a coop roguelite
I don't think it's going to be fun when your one teammate is op, and the rest isn't
but yeah, we might shelve this discussion for later
when we actually know how the grapple operates
I don't think a grapple hook is enough to make one dwarf OP compared to teammates
imagine if you gave gunner in drg a grappling hook
it's not DRG
yes, hence ^
I was just assuming, since the detached equipment and all, it might be a problem
but we will see
GOAT Ship Games will figure it out
Yeah. There could be weapons and upgrades that are so strong you might not even need the mobility. The person with the grappling hook might just end up mining for the whole team. But yeah, still too early to discuss this
I sincerely hope it is in RC tho
just to make sure, there will be @ everyone at alpha access?
They will announce it, I'd imagine
I imagine they will announce it, although if they'll just shadow drop it be sure to have requested access on Steam!
We will hire the town crier announce it from our balcony
you heard it here first, be sure to check-up on their offices on a daily basis
Whoever cries the most at gsg has to do it
It's hard to say, but I don't think so. We are using some content, true, but there's still tons of new gameplay stuff we need to make that takes up time and resources.
The DRG content just gives us the luxury of doing that 🙂
I don't think it will
If they play nice with our upgrades, they go in. Otherwise they're put on pause or reworked. Or just cut.
Yes
no reused cosmetics is pretty crazy, that makes me very curious about the dwarf aesthetics in this one :)
The dwarf models you've seen in the recent trailer are not the final ones. The art department have cooked up something super epic, but it's not ready to go in yet
interesting
They look more battle-worn
Gimme a dwarf thickness slider
So with the ‘permanent class equipment’ going from traversal equipment to the reclaimer gear (if I understand correctly?), does this mean the primary gameplay loop is less traversal based and more focused on combat?
that makes me think customizable scars and stuff
All of the traversal tools?
You still have traversal gameplay, but the reclaimers just have to choose what kind of traversal tool they want at the beginning of the run
so you can end up with the drills, or maybe grapple hook. Whatever you feel like.
So far yes, but we'll likely have new ones too.
Oh, so you still have a guaranteed traversal tool, it’s just not class restricted? Very cool
are there in-run upgrades for the traversal tools as well? I'm thinking faster drilling, lower cooldown, etc
No, the only thing decided by your class is the ability you have.
No, but the tools you find come with different stats.
wow I didnt expect new traversal tools, thats cool
Some could utilize upgrades, such as ammo ones or on damage ones, but not all tools can utilize them.
We don't have any prototypes yet, but we'll have a look at it at some point in the future.
like, you can pick the drills but sometimes they might have a higher damage value or something?
It's surprisingly difficult to come up with new ones that fit into the pool
Yeah something like that
or paltformgun with bigger platforms
sweet
we saw this in some trailers I think
honestly this is shaping up to be even better than I expected
Grappling hook that transfers velocity into greater power attack damage 🙏
Thank you. I’m more than satisfied to just have all the traversal tools in DRG. Looking forward to the potential new ones
Wonder if bouncy pads could be possible.
I would never troll with those
"rubberized additive" for the cheese plats
or just a passive in general which gives you more damage on everything based on velocity
kind of like Loader
Yeah I hope we get some more weird ass passives/abilities
The sticky flame trail one shown off in the trailer sounds cool, I hope there’s more of those
There is
my biggest fear for RC was having boring upgrades (5% more damage type upgrades) which kills a lot of roguelites for me
but there seems to be a lot of build variety
We do have those, but that is in the weapon ugprade pool, not the level up pool
level ups tweak your dwarf and their abilities, not flat value upgrades such as ammo, damage, etc.
Weapon upgrades will have those though
right
so we try to seperate them
are there wacky weapon upgrades as well?
Yes. Lots.
yesss
well depends on what you mean by wacky, but some are just plain game magic
by wacky I mean how some OC's in DRG change up the weapon
oh yeah sure. They don't change anything, they just add some fun abilities/effects
Can the class abilities be upgraded? Do they also have upgrades that change them a lot?
That sounds great. And I’m sure the nature of the upgrades allows pretty easy development of new ones
I am pretty sure it was said there will be meta progression for the classes
Yes
Not yet.
what's the enemy diversity looking like compared to drg? more? less?
I imagine it’s probably a bit less for the time being, since all the enemies are being made from scratch
they got big guys, they got small guys, they got smaller guys, they got flying guys, they got screaming guys, they got tough-shelled guys
they did a showcase of some of the new enemies a few months back
"less, for now" is a completely valid answer yeah
Plus bosses too, which I imagine are going to be a pretty core part of the gameplay loop as well
core 
What a rogue comment
at work but all I can think of is rogue core
Are your slots for specific weapons?
Could you have a 2 primary guns equipped? or are there "primary" slot / "secondary" slot?
They're generic, so you can pick two primaries if you want
What about ammo/health pick ups/kits/boxes?
Do they have their special slot or key?
We don't have those
I have a question, with dwarves engaged in operations close to Hoxxes' core will this prevent further engagement of core spawn in the upper crust of Hoxxes where the regular crews work?
Doubt
The planet is ever changing
We've still yet to know why the core stones form in the upperr layers
But that doesn't mean the Corespawns won't be able to get to us
Management has deduced that core stones are pushed to surface by tectonic activity but what causes the rifts to allow core spawn to come to the surface eludes R&D
Only time will reveal
Massive tectonic shifts occur ever so often in the planet causing these corestones to form in the upper layers. It doesn't mean we won't deal with Corestones and Corespawns when the reclaimers are in the core thought, because we might just recover the power of one of the several different mining facilities that are in Hoxxes, perhaps away from the Corestones already formed
Small correction: everyone works underground, just at different layers. The surface of Hoxxes IV itself is probably scorching hot and uninhabitable.
Hoxxes IV is tidally locked around Creus. This means half of the planet is boiling hot and the other half is freezing cold. Both prevent the formation of life.
Underground it is a different matter, evidently.
Has anyone gotten invites yet? (Sorry for increasing the wait by a week)
I signed up for the alpha but haven't gotten any news, though I understand that getting into the alpha is a long shot
Because a grand total of zero invites have been sent out.
Patience. They’ll make an announcement when the first wave goes out.
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I think it’s a little baffling people think they would just not announce or say anything and just ship the invites
sneaks an invitation into your mailbox
ISAT enthusiast 👍
Siffarooni :3
Aw dang I burned it as kindling
Linguine o.o
Patience.
But the whole process itself of awaiting invites, getting selected in waves (if at all), I think it's exciting.
Be a stone, everyone
Unmoving for millions of years
Then melt down when rogue core comes out
I'm so patient! I CAN wait for rogue core (everyday is harder than the last, I don't know how much longer I can take)
just hold out a little longer, dont let yourself become Rogue to the Core!
We're gonna roleplay being magma core lootbugs in here. 
its too late I'm rogueing all over the place
10 devs online.. that must mean theyre opening access right?!? (I am having a psycotic break)
Mental break: Valor
Final reason was: no alpha access
I don't think they're gonna do it at 9 pm
The only real timezone is the one im in
also 10 devs online isn't a lot compared to working hours
How big is GSG anyway
their site says 44 people but I think it might be more
something between 40 to 50 people
somewhere else on their site it says 47 
Seems about right
Not a lot
https://ghostship.dk/about/ 48 names here
Especialy after we look at quality of the game, that's pretty small team
You aren't on the site yet, (unless your actual names isn't daniel) so assuming everyone on the site still works at GSG: 48+1 employees
i wonder what the cave variety is gonna look like in rogue core
Yeah 🥲😅 there’s also a couple of freelancers I dont see on the webpage. I’m also in a weird spot myself. Starter as a freelancer, took over for a paternity leave and might hang around after that ends
yea, I noticed Sophus isn't either. I assume his work also counts as freelance, so freelancers aren't included
Ah yeah that’s right, he’s not there either! I think he works freelance/part time as well
Thanks for the info, hope you enjoy working at GSG and decide to stay!
I love it! Such a great company,and don’t even get me started on the lunch menu 🥗🥙🍕
well I can confidently say that you and the rest of the audio people have done fantastic work with DRG; every sound in game just makes sense, with nothing ever standing out as 'oh that doesnt sound like it looks like it should'. And I just wanna say thanks for the hard work and dedication to that. I have zero doubts that rogue core will have equal if not better quality as well
Now I am hungry
I only get leftover snacks from first class 😠
Thank you! I have a such humble and new part in the game so far, but the lead designer Joachim is simply a fantastic beast in his field. What he has done to Rogue Core so far is really great quality in my ears
Only soumd that i would complain about is springtail... roar ig
It sounds bit weird, compared to other bugs
I believe it! Im really looking forward to the new soundtrack as well. Ive heard good words said about it from some of the mods and devs already, and it has me hyped
But outside of that, sound desing is awsome
I like it. its very distinct, and means I need to ve more careful with special powder and grapple. ive died an unfortunate number of times from gravity because a poorly timed stingtail grab
and while they are still glyphids, they are distinct enough down the evolution tree or whatever hoxxes uses to warrent having a different call
Yeah, Sophus has made some banger music for sure
Sophus is cooking with rogue cores soundtrack already
can't believe I fooled myself into believing i'd be playing rogue core today
phooey
Rogue core yesterday!!
Yippie!!!
agreed
the trailer music was BANGIN
I like the darker, more serious horror style they are going for in general
also, ill probably main spotter, as i also main scout 
plus his armor looks sick, love the little radar dish on it and his goggles
as long as I still have my grapple hook! 
do we have eta for alpha release keys?
Soon ™
It's been like two weeks; when are the keys to GSG's offices being sent out?
Im placing bets it's this monday
23 magnite on Tuesday
50 umanite on Thursday next week
they're gonna release the keys as soon as i go to bed
What if instead of Rogue Core it was 𝓕𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓴𝔂 Core
I'd ᶠʳᵉᵃᵏ out
ROCK AND TUAH STONE ON THAT THANG
I place 180 error cubes on Wednesday
I bet 180 of allforkarl's error cubes on Rogue Core's alpha dropping mid May
please dont make me wait that long 😭
I hope they add gambling to rc
just dm a moderator instead of spamming this in every channel
@deep agate this is suspicious right? They also send it in #drg-memes-no-talk
uh, ya, but how does that tie to larina @dawn solstice you got dms from them?
and ya you literally had to spam that in every single channel instead of just messaging a mod once?
thra craving is diabolical
Yessss. They should add a slot machine right next to lloyd
They cannot sadly
Without changing the rating
Same reason it’s not in drg
actually it’s a new game so they could without causing problems, maybe? But they still might not want to
Rogue core is already a gambling simulator, you're gambling for good upgrades
oc:
there is gambling in 99% of games
maybe only chess don't have some sort of ga,bling mechanics
When am I able to gamble away all my credits and enor pearls and get in crippling gambling debts
As in like actual cards or slots though
There could be like, drg poker and that might be ok? Idk how it works
okay, wrong example
-# wither is 18+
Shrine of Chance but instead of nothing it can give you leaf lovers
I would be very happy with a set space poker table but i doubt it happens
Well, Balatro had their age rating changed to 12+ so there's a chance they could get it now.
"New rules will mean gambling themes do not automatically lead to an 18+ rating. Instead, it will be limited to games that simulate casinos and betting halls."
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd654qy89evo
It would be pretty cool as I do love gambling (only when it's not real money)
"The Complaints Board concluded that, although the game explains the various hands of poker, the roguelike deck-building game contained mitigating fantastical elements that warranted a PEGI 12 rating,"
I think deep rock has plenty of fantastical elements tbh
simulate casinos
Baltro not in that category
How they define casino?
Baltro is the most casino like game for the few last years
i apologize
Yes.
I think since balatro is more just a poker game and not a gambling casino game? Like maybe you can take the poker out of a casino gambling environment. Like my grandpa always said, you cant take the casino out of the poker, but you can take the poker out of the casino.
We have gambling in DRG in the form of the perks and overclocks that change damage to between 80% and 140% every shot
Obligatory day 15 of waiting for rogue core
And I hope the mods and devs realize I do this not to be annoying but because im genuinely excited for the game, and the first thing I do when I wake everyday is check to see if the alpha is here yet
I did it to be genuinely annoying to them, up until they sent me blackmail photos of me drinking a Leaf Lover's. Lesson learned
Can we get Rogue Core this Saturday?
So we have plenty of time to pla- erm i mean, test the game 😅
Balatro uses poker hands as a template and as an aesthetic but otherwise it has practically nothing to do with actual poker games
Nor could it even function as an actual casino game in practice
I can’t stop winning! I can’t stop winning! I can’t sto-
fails to one shot a trijaw and gets obliterated
You can't really translate balatro into an actual gambling poker game without completely making a different game vaguely balatro-like
There’s nothing you could really gamble on balatro with
It’s not really “poker based” it’s just card based
then you severely underestimate gambling addicts
or poker players
It’s actually not possible
The creator has it written into their will that this game can never be used for actual gambling
not officially
A balatro casino is impossible
I never said anything about a casino?
you can absolutely gamble off balatro through "a frienly wager between friends" and the versus mode
Well yeah
But that doesn’t really work
Who can beat the game the fastest? You can do that with anything
Anyways, back to the point but compared to what they would presumably add to DRG or rogue core it’s not “gambling”
A game having cards doesn’t instantly mean it’s gambling
is the playtest out for everyone already?
P i n s
tamam sry
no, the versus mode, i dont know if its a mod or not, but its a set seed run where you fight to get the highest score on each boss blind instead of a normal boss blind
loss equals loose a life
4 lives each
That’s just like a competition though
could absolutely gamble off it though
Again you can gamble everything that way though
I could gamble a same seeded drg mission
yeah
but nothing is ever 'impossible to gamble'
thats moreso my point than anything
Speaking of which I’m adding 40 more bismor to my rogue core alpha news bet
God damnit, SWARM
Hey ppl, any news about the alpha test keys?
Check pins, no news in particular
You'll absolutely know when it happens :)
I BET 100 DOUBLOONS ON MONDAY
Exactly
+1 week
There is nothing to bet on
And more importantly there is even less things that can be manipulated to make a profit off of which quite literally every casino game is built around
X_X
Yeah but that isn't
That isn't gambling
Because it isn't RNG
You can't luck out with versus mode because the other player has the same RNG and run as you
its still very much RNG
So it's just who can minmax better
because your hand each game is still random, and you might refresh the shop one mor time than your opponent and get that tasty blueprint
The hands are identical iirc
Unless you have fixed your hand
they end up very not identical very fast
the second you modify, delete, or add a card then theres no more symetry
Yeah but that's still just minmaxxing
If both players played optimally it would just be an eternal tie
no
only way you could both get to that level of optimization is if you both played that exact seed before many many times. its a random seed but set the same between you both, is what I mean by set seed
It's still primarily optimization
Same as like, betting money on beating someone in smash bros or something
theres still an element of skill yes, but its still primarilly luck
But it wouldn't really function as a casino game as there isn't any massive luck based parts about it
There's some RNG but it isn't left entirely up to RNG
A difference in decisions leading to expected deviation is kind of expected
what if you get bad team mates or your internet goes out or your neighborhood gets a blackout or your save file is corrupted
Those events are caused by factors not even remotely related to the game
and yet it affects the game
It's balatro
Versus
Okay guys, i'm sorry, i shouldn't have started baltro discussion
banned from playtest
:RWcry:
Where is recent rogue core trailer?
Pins
Announcements?
Has the playtest started?
Guess
Most likely some time in may
Channel pins
I’ve been told if we get 1000 people to ask if they playtest has started a bot will instantly send playtest keys trust
I heard if you give an apple core a dagger and +5 to stealth you unlock the secret Rogue Core alpha key
Has the playtest started?
it's a challenge?
anyway, i would accept it, if it were true
I'm not sure if it's been asked before but have the playtests started 😀😀😀😀😀
is there an eta on the rogue core closed alpha?
boils down to may or june at this point
-# please no Monday...
allergic to persons?
May 1st 👉 👈
Here's hoping for 2025 at the latest
Today i found out that I can play galactic on my pc and survivor on my steam deck at the same time to simulate Rogue core
Unfortunately, it's not very practical
vote to have croppa as the only resource in rugged core
It's gotta be this Monday trust
i see people are falling to the "X is surely tomorrow" illenss
Illness? its the truth, not an illness!
anyway its definitely not april
the devs said at least two weeks on the april 22nd stream, which would put it at may
may 6th at absolute minimum but definitely not that day
june feels way too long, and if that happens then something has likely gone very wrong
however, im still expecting a blog post before the month is out
roadmap says one every month until october
note that this is not referring to the newsletter
oh wait no nevermind im simply dumb
theres already a checkmark next to april
in that case im awaiting the normal newsletter
how rogue will the core be, real talk
6
I think it'd start at a 5 then work it's way up to a 7 or 8 when you near the end
If it hits 8 rogue I'm calling the cops
Thought they said two weeks when the trailer came out
when the trailer came out they said within a month
and the trailer came out 2 weeks ago, so waiting 2 more weeks checks out
But that logic can also mean rogue core tomorrow
Copium
playing rogue core in spirit
my only coping mechanism is playing rogue core 😔
If I don't get access to Rogue Core
Whatll you do then
I know what ill do if i dont
Ill get hammered [responsibly] and play drg while jamming to ost that is inevitably going to be released by someone within 5 minutes
Win win for me, if i get in or not
I want rogue core now!
I want to be patient for rogue core, there's a lot of moving pieces to make a whole new game
If you think about it you can play rogue core right now
And by think about it I mean literally
Use your imagination
I have 10 hours already
Only 10 hours wow? I'm racking up 8h a night playing in my dreams.
Rookie numbers
Rogue Core gift: suslink
me wat core rogue
how do you guys even have an hour in the game at all
The closed, closed test
I’ve stolen playtime from the testers
If you grab some right as they stop playing a few minutes drop out of their pockets
closed sqare alpha
I was just talking to a friend yesterday about how the worst part of game announcements is wanting to play it already
i will type "rigged core" in chat every time my teammates steal the good items
still better than rouge core tbh
Rough Core best core
I had a prophecy dream about rogue core
if i see a ledgendary quality item (its red) it will type rouge core
get it like the color red
Ser Pounce specifically added a "denial" role that made steam tell you the exact alpha start date
Then he announced that GSG was helping other companies make 3 TV shows?
epic dream fr fr
Also 1 person got access every day until the alpha started
that an awusome way to do it but instead of 1 person its 10
Guys i have an idea
When we say "when alpha" it's +1 week, right?
So when we say "when was alpha" (as in opposit form) it will be -1 week
keep prayin
legendary items are yellow

not in DRG survivor
Add new tier, rouge tier items
i assume they use the same color code
it's not DRG survivor
-# never liked common-legendary tier limits anyway
hey what about those red-colored upgrades in the trailer
that's something different
yeah they have negatives to them
like, upgrades that are different from the norm
like................... rogue upgrades............?
something something negative items
They make your gun shoot worse, but enemies are less lethal
Like downgrade yourself and enemes
Would be pretty good: one guy takes a punch so 3 others have eaiser life
they have those
Those seem to be from that floating rock in the exact previous shot
Chase it down, deposit the orb, and get the upgrade
Devs, rename it to glass cannon
it stacks with more kills
Also, not what i ment
I ment, it's flat downgrade for a dwarfs/enemies
👨🦱
They're unstable upgrades obviously
You have clean, balanced and unstable upgrades
Why isn't the practice of early access to testing for money being used? I see that many people don't shy away from this
Are you talking about how games normally do Early Access on Steam? I'm 99% sure they'll still do that, the alpha is just early early access.
the game is coming to early access late 2025 I think
indeed
Beacuse (not in case of GSG) some games just don't fit EA
For example, how would you do a lore based game in EA, without spoiling said lore?
The main difference between closed alpha and early access is (I think) you will be expected to report bugs and provide feedback
I don't think you'll lose access if you don't but that is the general expectation I feel, and IMO you definitely should even if it's not
closed alpha is also not considered "finished" enough to be sold
side eye at other games that relase 1.0 in even worse state
-# mostly at cyberpunk to be honest
GSG has standards
Professionals have standards
Be polite
Be efficient
Have a plan to kill everyone you meet.
-the sniper
I'd still buy it right now, full price
Let me at those corespawn! I'll show them what it means to be a dwarf!
The main principle is that this early access is to help with development, it would be unhelpful if we had to pay to provide feedback
yo is there a rogue core discord? or just think chat for now?
This is the discord
just this chat for now, but I'm sure we'll get more once the game hits early access
They'll probably add more chats
cant wait 🫡
which means more channels for free $50 steam gift messages
I hope they keep the salute button. thats my only wish
they will
They've said so
will it be the usual rock and stone? i think a new saying could be cool
like "Skull and bone!"
It'll stay rock and stone AFAIK
as like a continuation
Sucks for pounce
I can confirm we have the salute button still
😭
lmao
is it still gonna be the usual rock and stone, or some new variation?
I'm inclined to believe it'll be the usual
cuz either way it'd be good. a timely classic or a fresh new saying
i wonder how being drunk is going to work in-game, since that degrades over time
will we be unable to do a mission while drunk the whole time?
both is good 👍
same though
There’s a bunch of new ones included as well
what if someone called you danny would you care?
Lol, I do get called that from time to time but I always feel like they are referring to a mirrored version of myself, that I didn’t know existed. Kinda like Severance-vibes. Know what I mean?
Hey ppl, any news about the keys?
pinned messages for FAQ
It’s like upping the hazard level
Are those specific to rouge core or will they also be in drg
specific to RC
awesome, feel like it'd be weird if they all had the same voicelines as they're different characters, i wonder how different they are compared to the dwarves we've been playing
are there class specific voicelines by any chance?
do you still update this?
There's gonna be a bar right? These are dwarves we're talking about...
There's no bar, the rogue core dwarves are all sober
Why tho? It’s such an interesting mechanic
Maybe they can get some beer down the levels as upgrades
But they still can't get drunk, for very reasonable reasons
Something reminiscent of perk-colas from cod zombies
Makes sense. Hope there are things like what you’ve said and it’s not completely cut
I sure hope so as well, wouldn't be deep rock without beer
Have there already been people approved for the alpha?
no
Can't wait 😄
this is just a rumour but... im hearing ghost ship games was given access...
but you didn't hear that from me
That sounds like it is under NDA, better delete that 😮
mods and testers have had access for a little bit, but there has been no public release build as of yet
it takes time to create a build that the devs feel is suitable for public testing
only real news so far is a general estimate of 2 weeks as of the stream on the 22nd
which firmly puts anything to happening in may
That completely makes sense. Even though it would be a closed alpha, you would want to get the most out of the feedback, so having obvious technical or game-play issues that you already know about in that build doesn't really help. They should take the time they need, GSG didn't really rush anything just to throw it out half baked in the past and they should keep that practice.
thank god its after my finals
so may 6th at the latest? I guess I can wait that long if I have to...
and obligatory day 16 of being stupidly hyped for Rogue Core
Honestly that's pretty darn close. despite having been obsessed over Rogue Core ever since the teaser
they also said they dont want to be ready to release it, because then they would be further down the build train and less likely to accept larger suggestions and criticism
but yeah thats understandable
what do you guys think switching to unreal engine 5 will make graphics performance worse?
I would just lean on the side of the minimum requirements being higher than drg atleast for now
Dev response for the fancy lighting and spec requirements(its 3 months old so things could have changed)
if it can't run on rotten potato, i ain't buying it
-# who am i kidding, i'll buy it anyway
and play 100+ hours in early access only
log 1000hrs to have 1000hrs on drg and rogue core
At the earliest, I would think
I don't believe you, send me 10 hours of unedited Rogue Core footage
just discovered this game in delopment today, this could be considered as DRG 2?
nuh uh
no
I would consider it game unrelated to DRG, just in same universe and same theme
Maybe same as Subnautica and Subnautica BZ?
-# BZ is a standalone dlc tho...
Fun Fact Bello Zero was oryginally supposed to be a dlc for subnautica
ok I just saw the trailer, 4 dwarves mining stuff, killing bugs etc, just looked the same but better graphics
check the pinned messages, it's a roguelike game, so the gameplay loop will be vastly different
I'd consider it more like, drg: rogue core
Day 17 of failing to find something to do while waiting on rogue core alpha
frolic
Play risk of rain
It’s a very cool roguelike
I actually just picked it back up yesterday, somehow between the time I left it and came back my mods folder jumped from 125 to 307 mods
Is there any information about mini-quests? For example, cargo for cosmetics or a mechanical flying crap to speed up the season rewards?
Play DRG
Been doing that too, ive gained probably 100 hours this last week and a half
Damn that’s a lot
guys can chorus stones not be deposited into the mule??
No, neither chorus stones nor corestones. After the core stone fight a deposit point comes down to collect it.
Have they mentioned how late joining would work in RC?
not to my knowledge, but im also dumb so dont take my word for it
A while back they said there would be no late joining
But that could have changed, idk
am i the only one who thinks therell just be 4 classes? unless theres smth i dont know
i do know about the supposedly maybe very likely scrapped gorgon class
not sure how late joining would work
seems like itd be challenging to implement
They said there's gonna be 4 in the alpha but they plan doing more than 4
oh sweet :)
gorgon?
wa
Will our progress in alpha be carried over into EA?
-# sport
At alpha? Yes
There will be more
got it
was in the pre alpha showcase many months ago
we saw falconeer and slicer being played a bit in the showcase, and also knew of guardian and spotter
gorgon was also listed, but in a dev stream someone claimed there was talk of scrapping the class
thats all i know
its ability didn't play nice with the gameplay so it's put on the shelves, might or might not be reworked one day
Is it known if there will be a Rogue class?
i hope theres just a dude with just like a bomb
or liek a guy who just pulls a kratos
Wonder why the office is split on female dwarves. As long as they can have beards too, I'm 100% on board.
have they said what it did?
yes
The ability to freeze enemies and make them invulnerable iirc. I could be very wrong because I don’t remember where I read it
Ok guys. I'm going to wake up to a ping from this discord server and a email in my inbox
At least one checks out
If you give me your email, i'll send you some cat pictures
Ofc
It is
Is loyd still gona be serving 🥺
Dev team rly missed the oportunity to call it Deep Rogue Galactic 😭
No they like having unique names
No, he has to serve the dwarves on pace rig 17
We still work for DRG
Aw
Name him Dyol
I wonder if the robot woukd still be the same model 🤔
Or would rogue core introduce new silly robots
We've already seen the Molly replacement (forget the name)
probably
they already did
Ofc ofc
when started beta?
Start a someone asks when the beta is jar

They started yesterday, but forgot to send invites
No rouge corn
Rogue Core? More like Rogue BORE! (I am bored because I can't play the game)
Rogue SNORE
Napping until Closed Alpha ✨

Can't wait for early access tho
why is it called expenite and not Rogue Ore, are GSG stupid?
very good question
Someone prestigious please @ everyone (or me) when the alpha keys are unleashed
They didn't thought through 
Is customization still something that will be pretty limited in the new game? (I remember reading that in an interview) I know that was a big part of the replayability of DRG was all the unlockables. Will the focus be more on the roguelite unlocks with minimal customization?
Customization in what sense
Sorry, I mean cosmetics. I'm half asleep.
No we're not limiting that. We just don't have a plan for it yet, but it could look different from drg.
Cool thanks!
On the topic of cosmetics, we need a hat/mask that is just a straight up rock 
the alpha already launched?
no
pinned messages for info
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
We gotta keep track of how many weeks would we add to the release timeframe thanks to all the people asking.
there is no alpha test in Ba Sing Se
😵
We’d be at atleast half a year by now
So the alpha would almost be at actual release
Rogue knight (a la shovel knight)
Sign-ups for the alpha are available on the rogue core steam page
Implying we're not still working through the one day added for each time someone misspelled 'rogue' as 'rouge' in this channel alone...
May the backlog extend eternally
Misspelling the name of the game they themselves want to play will surely translate into bad luck for their testing applications. 
English is hard :(
Rouge sounds like French
You have demolished my mental state
at your service
Not recovering from this one tbh
Maybe RC beta release is behind that HEX color code...
Cause mental damage for free since 1900
We are not silksong
Nor LNF
Better to be the 1st of May... so we have plenty of time on the weekend for play test.
Hopefully
Rouge core? Makeup confirmed.
Man, the number of people complaining that Helldivers 2 is dying because there hasn't been a major update in a few weeks.
It's just stupid. Do modern gamers need a content drop every week and be dripfed content in order to maintain an interest in a game? When I was a kid, we bought our games from a store and played them and there were no post launch updates
Yes, they kinda want weekly updates 
We'd be lucky to get expansions on separate discs and shit
buying a complete game helps in that regard
Even with newer games under a live service model I have NEVER seen such vitriol against a developer taking time
“Helldivers 2 is dying” when they have a guy whose job is to literally feed the community new things every week:
As long as drg rogue core gets any news to share all i will say "let them cook as long as they need"
Oh I'm in the wrong chat lmao
Da
Yeah no I can't wait for Rogue Core either
You finally figured it bird thing
I want to help test that shit

In my defence I seldom leave the furry chat.
I don't know how I'm here
BUT YES ROGUE. CORE.
The answer to your question seems to be "yes". I don't like it either but oh well.
I will buy it as soon as it will be on early access
Give me the deep. I wish to fight a Balrog Balor.
Shame i didn't participated to be the tester but I'm no good at giving a proper feedback anyway unless if it's something i am curious about
are you not curious as to why the core is rogue?
I just wait for early access release
If i knew the reference anyway

The Rogue class in good TTRPGs is known for having all the skills.
You get to fight balloonie
So far from what i can tell, we fight with not Glyphid
Tater that thing is fucked
But with those core abominations
and more!
moar?
Yeah it's those crawlers at minimum. What the fuck is Hoxxes IV.
we've also seen flying rammers and small scuddler spider things

or "shatterclaw swarmer" apparently
Feels like hoxxes got something more ominous than we thought
Something very ancient
And is not happy
Not defeating the "planet is alive and hates us" conspiracy
Maybe that's why everything is trying to kill you despite the differences
Even rivals tech doesn't attack Glyphids (though technically and theoretically speaking they should)
Unless if I'm missing the lore outside of "Devs aren't fond of making infighting system"
But i digress
BALLOONYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!
Day 18 of waiting on rogue core, I think engi sent my company mail password to the rivals again
I forgot, did the key started to be distributed for rogue core or not ?
no, also 1 more week delay for that
I see, thanks pal ! I haven't been able to follow what is happening around it, hopefully we get a key for it !
The Rivals aren't being as disruptive of the ecosystem as we are. The most they do is collecting data and storing it.
Fair enough
will they have kursite at the core site
so is it one week from now or is it a general delay?
general, we're still counting the other times people have asked
I see thanks, suppose there is going to be a big announcement once people start getting keys
hope I'm one of the lucky ones
not getting access isn't a huge deal thankfully, as footage can be freely shared and GSG will be streaming the game as soon as they can
i do still hope we'll get a number for how many more people get access each time a test happens, though
An upgrade that let bullets eat dirt would be cool
Mini gun walking through the wall that no longer exists
That’s the power drill’s job
Hear me out, Cave Leech Larry, a fun new friend for Steeve
@pure vessel Might be a bit late but, what about bars in the abandoned facilities the Reclaimers are going through? There gonna be beers between the chaos?
the double ping 😨
idk maybe drg canonically has extremely sexist hiring practices
thats cool as hell as a concept
though youd have to give it an additional reason to exist alongside cryo and/or make the effect and cryo work off each other somehow so coexisting isnt really awkward
imo
probably it'd just be much harder CC than cryo.
yeah it'll have negative movement speed instead of zero
I love the mineral beard idea that's been floating around on the DRG Reddit. Not sure it might be too goody, but I think that ship has sailed long ago.
Would love something that that, but stone.
I don't think DRG would allow for goofin' around at work
We are?
We'll be changing this
Huh I guess this core sure had gotten rogue
To add on to this topic I definitely think female dwarves would be sick the inclusion would very likely bring more women to play 
I'm sure there woukd be a hand full of dorks who would complain that drg went "woke" or some bullshit but other then that I see no reason not to
One issue i could see is the art team having to figure out a new body model type and how every skin now fits on it, for most there won't be much of any changes i imagine but unique skins to the female body would be cool and I'm pretty sure there are some shirtless skins that just can't be directly carried over, but besides just a bit more work for a healthy new variety and potentially really cool unique skins down the line i would like to see the change but also understand if it doesn't come around
I'm pretty sure for the most part female dwarves have very similar builds to male dwarves
And most the armor of figure woukd carry over
I think the only potential issue is getting some one to voice the.
Them
I doubt it would inspire that many more people to play. The market for roguelites inspired by Left 4 Dead and Minecraft is not so saturated that a lack of female dwarves is make or break
Yeh i can see that being an issue, but yet again nothing that more work by the dev team can't fix just a matter of dealing with them
Yet again for a game with what 5 voice actors adding 4 others is kinda a big ask
ALL OF THEM?
Yes lmao
Is Mission Control the same guy?
Dang how did i not know that
Deep rock as a franchise js very male centered I feel and I just think it'd be cool to toss in some inclusiveness
I dunno bout him
Just know the dwarves are the same guy

Or it can be done as in Discworld: you don't know the gender of a dwarf, it's all hidden under the beard
As there are females and males, but all look the same, with some diffrend details
Exactly what I'm thinking
It doesn't have to be a huge endeavor I literally just think new voices woukd be perfect
No that's Robert Friis 🙂 The dwarves are voices by Javier.
Ah, okay. Thanks

I'm not sure if alr asked but are we gonna have a rock and stone button in rogue core too
Yeah
Robert, my beloved
Yes
YYYYEEAAAAAHHHH
As a "woke complainer" I find no problem at all with female dwarves. I do want them to look like older ladies, just like our current dwarves don't look too young either. It looks very comical and quite fitting with the low poly art in some way.
I imagine female dwarf models do represent quite a bit of work though. New face model, and making slight alterations of all ingame armors to fit the new body type. While the beards can stay, you'd also have to come up with many new feminine looking sets of hairstyles, possibly sideburns too? And, yeah, a voice actress for the lady miners.
can't wait for Woke Core alpha test
I thought it would be funny if they shared nearly all cosmetics and the voices and a slight model change were the only difference.
Beards for everyone.
It’s decently important for the reclaimers to have visibly distinct models
Via colors
I’m interested what they will do with voice pitch once they have more than 4 though
Because there’s only so many ways you can remix Javier’s voice to make it unique and recognizable
Maybe we get a dwarf with a mechanical voice
If the Reclaimers go to dangerous places i guess they would need prosthetics replacements
"Ha ha the core crawler got your tongue"
i just watched my steve get crushed by a supply pod
Doubt we're getting Cyborg dwarves
Aside from cosmetics
DRG already has some cyborg-esque cosmetics
I wanna hear some of the killcries though
Damn, not even a bar in the break rooms, Management's lost their minds
Also gorgon class freezing enemies and somehow making them invulnerable sounds really familiar to a bug I reported when Season 5 came out lol
Heavy armor from Corespawns while frozen made them totally immune to attacks
the reason of the blackout, not having beer.
Is there not going to be bugs in rouge core? Just core spawn?

