rogue-core-chat

[tall plume]

yeah

[slender oriole]

if i see even a trace of rockpox im going to brutally murder it with a power attack

[floral jetty]

Can't wait to be wandering mines only for our spotter to die screaming "CLAMORHEAD"

[olive narwhal]

Who needs power attack we have arm blades

[old raven]

We will hear the loudest bonk and a sonic boom coming towards us

[slender oriole]

not everyone has those, its just that one class

[summer dew]

I got a screenshot

Where can I upload...

[olive narwhal]

Its clearly the best class

[floral jetty]

Horror

[bleak umbra]

That arm blade was so cool as rock and stone

[mighty vigil]

Just read the commands, there is something called a Core spawn Guardian

[floral jetty]

Ph hell no

That is 100% a boss

[old raven]

Dawg yall gotta see WALL MOUTH

[summer dew]

#drg-gallery message

[olive narwhal]

I reckon it might be like the glyphid warden

[mighty vigil]

Yeeee it definitely is 😂

[floral jetty]

I don't wanna even know what the wall mouth is

[gritty lily]

im gonna trat on the rammer emoji

[azure juniper]

they answered very few

[summer dew]

What the hell is a "SpawnLord" 😭😭

[floral jetty]

QHAT IS A SHATTERCLAW

[round harbor]

Thanks. Also...

FULGOR VOMITER?

[old raven]

ON KRAKULS WHAT THE HELL DO THEY MEAN WALL MOUTH

[honest robin]

The choice to have the basic creeper not have the glowing eyes is so inspired. Vaguely humanoid dark shape with no discernable features is awful in a good way

[slender oriole]

WHAT ON HOXXES IV IS A KRIZZOK BOOMSTICK

[summer dew]

LMAOO

[mighty vigil]

Three a command that spawns a spider exploder tank ghost corrupted 😂

[gritty lily]

spiderexplodertankghost?

[summer dew]

Rafkan Augmentor 😭😭😭

[summer dew]

Thats probably haunted cave

[floral jetty]

ASSAULTER?

[verbal bobcat]

I had a dream last night about Fulgor Vomiter

[old raven]

I wanted to know what’s their inspiration for the core gameplay in general but was too mesmerized by the plasma blade

[round harbor]

Tallboy?

[main hinge]

Wall mouth…

[round harbor]

What was it about?

[slender oriole]

yea just saw that, Tallboy Assaulter

lol

[floral jetty]

Assualtor.sounds like it's gonna grab you and needs to be damaged in order to let go

[old raven]

Gawd I don’t wanna think about it what if it can move

[azure juniper]

+

[gritty lily]

boomstick spawner

?

[round harbor]

Imagine it walking you around like they are disciplining a cat

[slender oriole]

if you're above 5'6" you get command grabbed the second you spawn into a mission

[old raven]

Who let the planet learned about c4 and tape

[round harbor]

So that's why the reclaimers are shorter than normal dwarves

[floral jetty]

Oh god

[autumn hinge]

Closed alpha playtest - does it mean that it will be possible to play for regular players? Or only for developers? Sign me up for the alpha test and I'll give you all the gold and mushrooms.

[floral jetty]

Imp

[mighty vigil]

Man we got elite variants of the creeper and clamorhead 😂

[tall plume]

for regular players
we don't know how the closed alpha will go though, as far as signing up is concerned

[old raven]

Man I just want more stuff when alpha drops

[slender oriole]

there was also another Rafkan critter in there too

[summer dew]

Actually no

[old raven]

Just
The sheer aura of wall mouth

[floral jetty]

There's gonna be swarmers

[summer dew]

The crawler seems to be in its own category

[gritty lily]

krita is loading :(

[summer dew]

Cause there's creeper guardians and creeper warriors which seem to resemble glyphid guard and slashers

[thin apex]

ah

[verbal wolf]

Did you all notice Boomstick is labeled as a rifle in Rogue Core?

[floral jetty]

Boomstick....

[old raven]

Supercharged creeper when

[round harbor]

So crawlers are like an in between

[floral jetty]

What kind of.enemy is a boomstick

[slender oriole]

a boomstick kind

[pure vessel]

It goes boom

[summer dew]

Yeap

[verbal wolf]

The full auto double mag Boomstick is going to go crazy.

[round harbor]

They did say temp

[old raven]

Prob a wip, I’ll give em sum slack if the system ain’t 60% complete

[floral jetty]

Wallmoutj screams eldritch horror

[verbal wolf]

Yeah but it's still funny.

[rigid gate]

what’s going on with rogue core can i get a TLDR

[mighty vigil]

Shits fucked with eldritch horrors, we gotta get in and sort things out

[round harbor]

Totally not me imagining a dwarf so small he uses it like a rocket launcher

[azure juniper]

also, they said that skipping upgrades will make the game impossible

inb4 "no upgrades rogue core full reclaim" speedrun 5s after launch

[summer dew]

Ok I go now bye

[old raven]

That damn thing better not teleport from wall to wall

[rigid gate]

when will we be able to do that

[round harbor]

Q2 closed Alpha
Q4 Early Access

Showed off the enemies and some classes

[verbal wolf]

They should give Boomstick mag upgrades and each one visibly adds more barrels.

[mighty vigil]

No idea

[rigid gate]

Q2 2025?

[floral jetty]

It better just be a ststis wall cave leech or we are fucked

[slender oriole]

HIRE THIS MAN

[random laurel]

Hello boys

[tall plume]

2nd quarter of 2025

[floral jetty]

Please add a tamer class

[round harbor]

yes 2025

[old raven]

QUINTUPPLE BARREL

[round harbor]

but them demons gonna get it

[floral jetty]

Let me .ake a mini army of rammers

[round harbor]

They also added the rammer from the boardgame

[random laurel]

I thought they said the closed alpha was Q325

[round harbor]

Hoping there is both a) pheremone grenades and b) a length upgrade

[old raven]

Me and the lads pinging the weird ahh hole only for it to look like a wall after we blink

[round harbor]

With the amount they showed they moved it, we got remote controlled birds as a class

[round harbor]

throw a flare into the hole

will it swallow?

[floral jetty]

Pinging a suspicious gold deposit "were rich!" Only for the spotter to grab it and be slowly eaten alive by a eldritch being

[old raven]

That’s like season 9 of drg

[random laurel]

I'm serious haha I was in the stream

[old raven]

I don’t wanna make it mad

[floral jetty]

Your a dwarf

[round harbor]

Whole cave starts glowing

then the earth swallows you

[thin apex]

Also

[old raven]

Yea but here’s the thing
Wall mouth sounds scuffed

[thin apex]

y'all noticed how the Crawler is enormous right?

[floral jetty]

If I see a wall..outh and I throw a flare at it, and the whole cave starts glowing I am fucking booking it

[round harbor]

yeah, they sending in the short kings

[old raven]

Kekw Q325 we will make it

[old raven]

The wall eats a flare and know suddenly temple run starts playing

[floral jetty]

Imagine you go deep into the core biome and find out your not in a cave

[random laurel]

Oh I see, I meant Q3 2025

[round harbor]

thats not a planet... its a mout!

[paper schooner]

You jest, but it's currently in the game....

[old raven]

Honestly I can wait another year for dis I got faith in our lord and savior Karl to guide me into a blackout stout

[round harbor]

Nah I got it XD. But yeah I believe it is Q4, kinda makes sense with all the stuff we saw and how big everything is

[thin apex]

Can't wait for a miner's manual for all the lore

[old raven]

W A T

[tall plume]

Alright, brace up:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mdn9Uhea9I

[tall plume]

still working to get the RC segment only and the new roadmap, you'll have to hold a bit for those though

[floral jetty]

"Hoxxes isn't a planet"

[random laurel]

Do you guys think the core spawn will be easier or stay the same? I get absolutely bodied in the event if there aren't zips

[paper schooner]

well not with more barrels added to the model but a mag increase on the boomstick through upgrades

[thin apex]

Ah yes

Just stick some extra barrels into the boomstick and call it a day

[gritty lily]

pounce if i provide the rammer image will it get added as an emoji?

[round harbor]

The areas are a lot more open so I assume a lil easier but will have the same ai

[old raven]

Oh ok I was starting to wonder how a quintuple barrel boom stick would look like

[thin apex]

Using duct tape r&d certified of course

[tall plume]

no idea

[round harbor]

there is a mod for the revolver that does that for 6 shooter

[verbal wolf]

It would be really funny though.

[paper schooner]

They are different... though not necessarily easier

[floral jetty]

Rc is gonna be "Ah sweet natural horrors beyond my comprehension"

[paper schooner]

Or to be more specific they are the same but you are different

[round harbor]

for one I got a giant lazer sword

[floral jetty]

Spec op dwards!!!!

[random laurel]

Right that's what I was thinking, because they are more skilled then we "perceive" them as being more manageable

[paper schooner]

There is that, yes.

[solar shale]

A quick question. Is rogue core being developed in UE4 or 5?

[random laurel]

Very good

[round harbor]

I think UE5

[paper schooner]

yes, but you also start with less gear so...

[round harbor]

Exponential growth

[tall plume]

5

[paper schooner]

Correct, we have migrated the project to UE5

[round harbor]

also rng and the team you bring

[solar shale]

Thx for the answer

[old raven]

Man a dev is with us is crazy

[tall plume]

how hard was the migration ?
I assume it wasn't too bad since it was still unreal, but still hard because lot of things to re-learn regardless ?

[round harbor]

Which I'm all for, jus hoping it still runs as well as drg on my pc

[verbal wolf]

According to one of the upgrade descriptions we saw, this game will have crits.

[tall plume]

gameplay also showed it

[hollow bear]

Will lifting weights grant mission buffs?

[pure vessel]

It gives you some nice gains

[paper schooner]

Not much to relearn really. The hard part was for the programmers to fix all the stuff that broke

[tall plume]

I wonder if it's going to be like roboquest: where you crit on weakpoints but also can crit independently

[round harbor]

i think crits refer to headshots and wp damage

[tall plume]

oof, yeah, I imagine that took some work

[paper schooner]

yes

[random laurel]

Do you think there would be a way to "promote" our dwarves from DRG? I'd feel bad leaving them behind. Even if just in name or narratively that'd be fine, I know you guys said progress won't be transferred but that's fine. I'm not sure if I explained myself properly

[verbal wolf]

I actually thought those were just weakpoint hits.

[verbal wolf]

Full crit chance build, here we come.

[livid remnant]

man, kinda sad that they plan on using the same voices for new dwarves

I really think the new classes could benefit from some new VA's

[round harbor]

I wanna use the, i think it's called, sentinel perk that makes me deal mega damage without moving

dwarf-turret

[paper schooner]

you crit independently from weakpoints

[tall plume]

but weakpoints are still a thing too, right ?

[round harbor]

👀

[paper schooner]

yes

[tall plume]

neat, so it's really like Roboquest

[paper schooner]

and critting on WP is extra nice

[thin apex]

Weakpoint + Crit = A dead crawler which is a good crawler

[tall plume]

[round harbor]

deadeye build

[olive narwhal]

Ah like roboquest auto crits

[tall plume]

true, but I think people we also enjoy the familiarity, and it also ties in with all dwarves in DRG sounding the same despite being different lol

[verbal wolf]

Just make their voices pitched differently from our dwarves.

[livid remnant]

Thats what i was gonna say, pitch would help if its the same

[paper schooner]

The voice of dwarf

[round harbor]

I love the current VA for the dwarves

so much sass and arrogance 🤣

[random laurel]

That's why I asked if we could "promote" our dwarves, then the same voice would make sense, and then more classes can have more voices

[hollow bear]

Will facilities and structures be generated similarly to the caves?

Didn't get to hear that part of stream

[old raven]

I wonder if the gameplay gets more different from drg since it is a roguelite and from the ones I seen they get pretty speedy and jumpy

[cerulean hemlock]

To post videos in the drg videos subchannle do i need any criteria?

[paper schooner]

They are procedurally placed elements but the elements themselves are hand-made with some randomisation in there

[round harbor]

I wanna see what the big swirly rocks were

Really excited for this

[random laurel]

Thanks for taking the time to chat with us

[paper schooner]

My pleasure. Thanks for being here!

[old raven]

[random laurel]

You guys are awesome

[paper schooner]

I got 30 more minutes before I need to head home

So ask any questions you mighrt have

[stiff palm]

so.. there is some rogue core videos?

[paper schooner]

No, you all are awesome!

I think all of them can be found on r/RogueCore and the Rogue Core steam page

[random laurel]

So I'll make those minutes count xD, what did you think of this suggestion?

[tall plume]

oh we have a reddit for it now ?

neat

[delicate flax]

I only need to know if there's a crspr in game and it has a upgrade that can constantly increase it's range

[paper schooner]

I'm not exactly sure what you mean...

[old raven]

Y’all got any inspiration regarding the gameplay on rogue core that didn’t inherently came from drg?

[paper schooner]

Had it for a long time but it's fairly dormant at the moment

[delicate flax]

what will be the difficulty curve in rogue core compared to drg?

[paper schooner]

The team upgrading is a big part of RC.

[random laurel]

So I meant if our dwarves could be "ported" but not the progress, only figuratively so we think in the lore that they got promoted to rouge explorers and are now in the new game and also work sometimes as miners in DRG

[livid remnant]

How often are the team upgrades going to occur? When I think of a rogue-like, I think of Risk of Rain, and you get items/upgrades like crazy in that game, would Rogue Core be anywhere near that?

[paper schooner]

I mean, isn't that just a matter of head-cannon?

NOt sure how we would do that mechanically

[stiff palm]

Mhh no, only old trailer

i want the new one

[upper gorge]

That may mean more paperwork than MC guy is willing to process

[gritty lily]

pounce i have a cleaned up screenshot of a rammer without background, emoji pleaseeeeeeeee🥺

[random laurel]

Right, but if there's not an in lore explanation for the same voices then people might just think something else. And also would we a cool wink to the people who come from DRG. I won't talk about mechanically how you would do it because that's not my place to tell you what to do xD

[random laurel]

Hahahaha

[paper schooner]

I think it's currently just part of the OTH stream.... it's not really meantto be standalone.

But I'm sure someone can cut it out

[upper gorge]

in the stream they mentioned the steam page would be updated in the following days

[verbal wolf]

Are any enemies currently in Rogue Core being considered for being added to DRG?

[tall plume]

Let Mark know that we need it 🙏

[paper schooner]

Right now we are looking at about 3-5 team negotiations per stage (both upgrades and equipment)

[velvet marsh]

I gotta say here I loved the music on the teaser they did on stream. It's really atmospheric and spooky, I think it's doing a great job of being related to, but still different than DRG's ost 😊

[paper schooner]

and then there are also personal upgrades on top of that that

[livid remnant]

I cant wait for the fully upgraded grapple gun

[tall plume]

Sophus is cooking hard 🙏

[delicate flax]

how do you expect to resolve fighting over team negotiations?

[upper gorge]

I like that the time-scaled difficulty resets between floors. Games like RoR feel like you're constantly in a race to your doom

[verbal wolf]

I can't wait for max movement speed.

[gritty lily]

pounce i have the image, so can there be an emoji now? pwease🥺

[delicate flax]

or howbhas the team resolved it?

[azure juniper]

I wonder what kind of worldbuilding they will go for. Will the reclaimers reference the miners? Will they have memories of being a miner before? will they have contempt for the union miner? It's interesting to think about

[tall plume]

ask @carmine zenith

[delicate flax]

tater ping

[carmine zenith]

Post it

[gritty lily]

pounce ban

[hollow bear]

Excited to see the new cosmetics. Wonder how class specific they'll be

[verbal wolf]

I wonder if the host kicking randoms for picking something they wanted will be a common occurrence.

[tall plume]

being a mod means I have the power to ping The Tater™️ and live to tell the tale

[carmine zenith]

Wait, we're alive?

[paper schooner]

No, but it could certainly happen if we do something in DRG that would bring in more core spawn into the game. No idea. No plans for now.

[gritty lily]

.jpg?

[tall plume]

we're only dead inside

[carmine zenith]

I'm going to have to reconsider some things

[steel hearth]

Will players be able to join mid-mission like DRG?

[carmine zenith]

I would hope not

[random laurel]

[Question] How much deeper are the explorers going compared to the miners?

[paper schooner]

Yeah I really like where the Rogue Core music is headding.

[delicate flax]

tat would make it too easy

[azure juniper]

do you plan on developing more classes past five, whether for launch or for release in future updates?

[tall plume]

they said more were coming

[azure juniper]

thank you

[upper gorge]

that's a good point... Thematically it wouldn't be possible, right? With the whole "shifgting wall" blocking access. Besides, what would ther newcomer do about upgrades they can no longer get

[paper schooner]

That would suck for the host as they would be a dwarf short and I don't think we'll have late-joining in RC.

[livid remnant]

I actually just remembered, are the Phase Suits from the reveal last year still a thing, or are they just classes now?

[gritty lily]

#drg-gallery message tater here is the image

[carmine zenith]

Imma say no

[gritty lily]

:(

[azure juniper]

now that I realise there are questions being answered, I'd like to pose that as a question

[gritty lily]

why?

[paper schooner]

A lot deeper!

[upper gorge]

the reclaimers are going closer to the planet core iirc

[paper schooner]

No, i don't think we'll do that.

[gritty lily]

tater why not :(

[verbal wolf]

Then a player could join near the end of a run and beat it without playing most of it.

[azure juniper]

What kind relationship will the reclaimers have to the miners? memories of past employment? Camaraderie? Pity? Contempt?

[upper gorge]

I fully expect them to joke about the Rig miners doing "deep dives" that barely scratch the planet's crust

[amber tide]

Is there going to be an announcement soon?

[hollow bear]

Did anyone ask about sandwiches yet?

[random laurel]

That's awesome that the dwarves had made bases that deep. Will there be a lot of in game lore? I'd love to learn more about their history

[main hinge]

Question: will there be a lobby like thing like the space rig or will it will just be a lobby that you join

[carmine zenith]

Very hard to see

[azure juniper]

they showed a lobby spaceship

[livid remnant]

There's a space-ship lobby

[main hinge]

Ah

[delicate flax]

can we expect to find rivals that deep in rogue core?/will seasonal events in drg affect the core?

[main hinge]

Couldn’t see most the stream Beacuse I don’t have good service rn

[upper gorge]

(and the spaceship has toilets)

[sour torrent]

Heck yea, drilling to the deepest.

[main hinge]

Making a deposit!

[gritty lily]

do you know a solution to that?

[random laurel]

Follow up question, will there be a lobby or global hub where we can hang out with multiple people either in RC or DRG?

[carmine zenith]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

You could put it on a white background but that would be ugly

[delicate flax]

the discord

[carmine zenith]

Outlines can help a little, but generally things that started as screenshots or larger creatures/enemies in general are difficult to make into emotes

[random laurel]

It's not the same u.u

[carmine zenith]

You lose detail visibility when you scale down in size for emotes

[paper schooner]

There are a few sides to this.

• It is to everyone's benefit for the entire team to be strong.
• No one upgrade will make or break anything (usually)
• Most of the upgrades are not generic and as you make your builds what is best for your build starts separating from what is best for a teammate's build
• If you don't work together you will die

[gritty lily]

i adjusted some settings a lilte bit

[paper schooner]

No there will not be a shared in-game space taht crosses DRG and RC

[random laurel]

It'll be a good collaboration exercise

[paper schooner]

No idea for now

[upper gorge]

inconsiderate dwarves are forbidden from having beards for the next X games

[gritty lily]

#drg-gallery message is this better tater?

[carmine zenith]

I have a question

[azure juniper]

I'll restate the q just once 🥺
What kind relationship will the reclaimers have to the miners? memories of past employment? Camaraderie? Pity? Contempt?

[carmine zenith]

Will there be pants?

[random laurel]

Good question

[carmine zenith]

And will the pants have pockets?

[paper schooner]

We're gonna approach lore the same way we are doing it in DRG.

[carmine zenith]

And if the pants exist and have pockets, can we get an idle animation where they put their hands in said pockets?

[delicate flax]

Pants mineral

[carmine zenith]

Maybe even lean up against the nearest wall with the hands in the pockets?

[paper schooner]

I don't think so, no...

[random laurel]

I didn't mean for both, I meant in both games separately, whether there would be plans for something like that. I love hanging out with the randos at the space rig but I would like there to be more people sometimes

[paper schooner]

What sort of annoucement?

[verbal wolf]

Will we find dwarven corpses in the abandoned facilities?

[upper gorge]

lost gear?

[delicate flax]

have you guys liked and decided to implement of the suggestions in #rogue-core-suggestions

?

[random laurel]

That'd be grim to see

[livid remnant]

we need an M rating, so we can finally get cigars in game

beer and a smoke

[upper gorge]

what if these rogue cores have warped the previous dwarf teams into those creepy mole monkey mobs

[verbal wolf]

There should be am extremely low chance you find four dwarven corpses with their lasers out pointing at a piece of Compressed Gold.

[random laurel]

Dwarves treasure their lungs for cardio so they don't smoke

[livid remnant]

thats what im gravitating towards... the fact that the skull on the crawler is vaguely humanoid kinda adds more proof to the theory

[gritty lily]

tater please🥺

[livid remnant]

gunner class art says otherwise

[random laurel]

That'd be so grim as well

[random laurel]

[wispy remnant]

I have noticed that with the new Rogue Core showcase that the teammates icons are displaying the actual player cosmetics on their icon like in darktide

[paper schooner]

I don't see why they would pity the miners. They are different Dwarves who chose different lives. But I'm sure the Reclaimers think they are more badass than the combat miners. I can see that some have been miners themselves in the past. Others maybe did military servie or something.... I'm just making this up right now 😛

[livid remnant]

Miner vs Reclaimer fight would be interesting to see

[main hinge]

Will there be blackout stout in rogue core

[paper schooner]

They are not dinamic icons, the DRG icons also dispaly the default cosmetics of the DRG classes...

[round harbor]

Well the drg dwarces are explicitly miners while the reclaimers are specifically stated as dwarven spec ops in a sense

[paper schooner]

Probably?

[upper gorge]

I kinda prefer static class icons, it's easier to see who's what at a glance

[livid remnant]

Beer on Ramrod confirmed?!

[verbal wolf]

Are there grenades in Rogue Core?

[azure juniper]

well they are reclaiming mines that were presumably dwarved by miners, so thats where I got the idea they might have pity on them

[main hinge]

Is there Rogue core in Rogue Core

[dire galleon]

I hope Mission Control is still in rogue core

[livid remnant]

Oh yeah, those are conspicuously missing

[delicate flax]

#suggestions message what do you think about my suggestion if it was a weapon added to rogue core?

[livid remnant]

maybe some would be too strong for rogue core

like engineer's bot nades and plasma ones

[random laurel]

Looks cool

[azure juniper]

cant post a pic in this chat, but there are kind of pockets on their pants in the sneak peek. They are elite tactical dwarves however, so I don't expect them to stand around with hands in their pockets

+, a character putting their arms so close to their body makes rigging the 3D model mesh harder

you can see what happens when you put arms of tf2 characters in positions they dont hold them in in the game

[random laurel]

Guys I guess I'll just have the head canon that my dwarves just got promoted to reclaimers xD. It'd be cool to see it reflected in-game but maybe it's wishful thinking with the game at this early stage

[paper schooner]

Not in the same way as in DRG, they will be equipment and take up a slot. You will of course have more of them / they will be stronger

[paper schooner]

Ah, then yeah sure.

[paper schooner]

Nothing but

[paper schooner]

That's the current plan

[azure juniper]

rogue that core till it expenite

[verbal wolf]

Is every piece of equipment from DRG currently in Rogue Core?

[white quail]

All the dvarves shown in the sneak peek were just cosmetics from drg

[steel hearth]

Is the Falconeer's drone the Hi-Volt Thunderbird from DRG:Survivor?

Cause it basically is

[azure juniper]

like Dotty and the Drillevator?

[white quail]

i think so at least the traversal tools and some of the weapons maybe not stuff like the hydro rocket pods or sludge pump yet just more of the actual guns for now at least i think so

[amber tide]

The game was announced to launch in November

[verbal wolf]

Weapons, utility and movement tools, and grenades.

[paper schooner]

No, we've stripped it down and are adding stuff as we go and need it along side making new stuff as well as needed. And the DRG gear that is in RC often gets tweaked and modified

[paper schooner]

Correct

[random laurel]

Will we be able to upgrade our dwarves outside of missions and if so, can we please upgrade the flares? 🙏

[amber tide]

I haven’t heard anything about the game and November is almost over

[azure juniper]

very important question:
will the falcon drone be pettable

[paper schooner]

Aaand I should have been gone 13 minutes ago...

[olive narwhal]

Pins have the updated road map prior to tonights stream

[paper schooner]

catch you all later

[amber tide]

Ah

[random laurel]

Oh bugger, thanks a lot

[paper schooner]

Thanks for all your questions!

[random laurel]

Have a nice rest of your day

Or night

[paper schooner]

Rock and Stone!

[azure juniper]

Drone pets or riot!

[random laurel]

For karl!

[azure juniper]

[olive narwhal]

But looking around this time next year based on the roadmap from tonights stream

With a closed alpha q2

[floral jetty]

Being able to find dotty and rescuing her during missions would be sixk

[main hinge]

Bye

[azure juniper]

Dotty?! how did you get so deep?

[tall plume]

that's very old info which we was changed months ago

see non-updated roadmap in the pinned messages

[azure juniper]

"We'll have to keep Dotty on the Ramrod. She deserves a vacation."

[random laurel]

I'm so pumped for this

The sound design will be immaculate

[azure juniper]

meanwhile the dwarf that hadn't worked in DRG before and just got this job as a PMC:
"Dude tf you on about"

[random laurel]

I seriously hope we can upgrade the flares

[tall plume]

probably not

but who knows

[azure juniper]

I think in addition to flares, we'll need fog dispersal tools

those caves were milky

[wispy remnant]

Oooh I see, it looked like it was dynamic, felt like I saw a dwarf with eyepatch cosmetic from the bottom ui corner xd

[steel hearth]

Might have been artwork for the new classes?

[random laurel]

I think the fog adds to the terror experience

Gotta stay on your toes

[azure juniper]

ah yes... The terror of living in London

[random laurel]

Careful you don't get stabbed

[azure juniper]

In the fog? Ran over by Churchill more like

[magic ermine]

So rogue core game is a brand new game or and additon to drg

[olive narwhal]

New game

Pins have the info

Alongside a fresh oth stream from tonight

[random laurel]

New game and new dwarves

[magic ermine]

What about drg will it have an update soon like new season or something else

[azure juniper]

I hope there will be player interactions as lovely as

[olive narwhal]

Drg development is pretty much paused until rogue core is launched in EA

[random laurel]

Oh wait what EA

[olive narwhal]

The the stream from tonight answers alot of these question's

[random laurel]

Oh early accrss

Don't scare me like that

[azure juniper]

XD

[random laurel]

I'm having a headache now from the surprise

[wispy remnant]

i thought there wasnt gonna be preset classes for RC because players can create their own classes with certain builds unless they changed the idea back when itw was first announced the game

[olive narwhal]

The classes are more so an ability from what i gathered

[azure juniper]

its not clear if weapons will be class specific or universal so far

[fickle abyss]

I feel like the "underground bases" are kind of a retcon. Hasn't it been established that it literally impossible to maintain anything because of the wildlife and shifting cave geometry?

I mean, sure they all died a horrible death, but shouldn't the bridges, walls and doors be gone

[tired pawn]

Neat

[steel hearth]

Today's stream revealed classes are in. Saw a little bit of two of them, and caught the names for three others

[fickle abyss]

at least 5 for now

[random laurel]

Maybe they were so well made that they have withstood the hostile environment

[royal ice]

I have to admit after watching today's showcase, I am more and more excited for Rogue Core. I know many people dislike that it is a separate game, but I can understand the devs vision on why they wanted to separate, as this would kinda look odd as a DLC. On top of that, I am sure with the scope they wanted it to have, they couldn't bring it as free DLC.

The enemy designs they showcased so far honestly looks amazing. I was initially upset we wouldn't get the glyphids (I am not sure if we will actually see them) but the ones we saw looked amazing and scary. Definitely fits the vibe that Rogue core is a bit scarier and harder! My fav is edgestalker for sure. They look like the Nerubians from World of Warcraft.

Having 5 classes (and even more) is exciting and honestly I can't wait to play this game. Hopefully I will get a chance to get into alpha 🙏🏻

[fickle abyss]

i hope the original also gets an engine upgrade some day

[wispy remnant]

The plasma blade and drone dwarves look pretty fun

[random laurel]

Agree with everything said here

[idle bison]

i'm hoping the comparisons can be quelled so rogue core can stand on its own

[wispy remnant]

RC has been my most anticipated game since it first got announced and glad to see we get more footage and it already looks amazing, hope an early access launch can happen in Q2-Q4 2025

[thin apex]

Pet the fish

[random laurel]

I hope I qualify for the closed alpha

[tall plume]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/676880716142739473/1309181434639941713/image.png?ex=6740a5b9&is=673f5439&hm=2032021fe5541509a9624cbdb97e239c3725ed6ddc896502fc4b0e322ba4777d&

[wild dirge]

Did they happen to talk about what that would look like?

[random laurel]

Not that I remember, they just said closed alpha

[tall plume]

no, they shared no news about how they will do the closed alpha

[random laurel]

Now that you mention it we should've asked that to the dev who was here earlier

[tall plume]

you'd have gotten the same answer tbh

they haven't planned anything yet

[carmine zenith]

When the core is rogue

[random laurel]

Fair

[alpine oar]

Pretty cool enemys

and I like the abilitys there fun

I can only hope that season 6 will get as much love as rogue core is from the devs

[random laurel]

Probably gonna RC is gonna steal the spotlight for a while

[alpine oar]

Yeah

[olive narwhal]

Survivor did trump drgs peak players at launch so i assume the same will happen with rogue core

[alpine oar]

If ima be honest rogue core is gonna blow up on youtube

mostly because scary coop games do well

[median sleet]

Just watched parts of the stream, looks cool. I can tell I will love falconeer

Regular grunts are out right?

[olive narwhal]

Seems like it

Assume stuff changed as expected since phase suits has changed to classes since it was last talked about prior to the stream

[exotic oyster]

I wish I could like apply for closed alpha, that would be tremendous.

[olive narwhal]

Its a while out not even the devs know how the closed alpha will work yet

[pure vessel]

We need to come up with a plan first, so for now we dont know.

[median sleet]

I don't know if I'll like that change, but I also understand. They probably want to differentiate the experience more from DRG and make the game harder for people who played DRG first.

[magic pumice]

Can I see a video of this?
Also, is Rogue core eventually going to release on consoles?

[olive narwhal]

Im liking what i am seeing

[tall plume]

pinned messages

[pure vessel]

Of course.

[frigid path]

I can hear Aaron going “I have a plan Arthur” already

[exotic oyster]

Thanks for the reply! If you do a survey or something I’ll happily apply 🙂

[magic pumice]

Thanks.

Rock and Stone

[exotic oyster]

Rock and Stone!

[hollow bear]

Marble racing seems fair enough for alpha codes

[daring hill]

one thing im curious about

[livid remnant]

it most likely will "EVENTUALLY", but DRG took years to get onto consoles

and RC hasnt even gotten to pc yet

[daring hill]

will people with access before the full early access release be allowed to show footage?

or will things be under nda and/or gentlemans agreement to not show the game publicly outside of the devs doing it themselves

[livid remnant]

probably depends on how big the test is honestly

if the closed alpha lets a lot of people in, someone will break the NDA eventually

[daring hill]

id love if halfway through 2025 we get shown live gameplay of a mission from testers

[umbral robin]

Assuming they are consistent with the season themes, season 6 will probably be more rogue core enemies in normal drg.

[median sleet]

We don't know

[livid remnant]

I wouldn't bank on it

most rogue core enemies seem purpose built for Rogue Core

they would likely need a lot of tweaking to be balanced in base game

[daring hill]

given the time gap i'd prefer season 6 be something new

i dont think its worth it to have 2 seasons of the same theme and its basically proven that this results in player fatigue

[livid remnant]

There's also the point of identity. They removed glyphids from RC so it would stand out more

adding RC enemies to base DRG would reverse that

[tall plume]

if the closed alpha is open to random people, most likely

[umbral robin]

We already have the basic crawler so it wouldn't be too out of place.

[elder rapids]

rogue core looks interesting, shame it'll be a year until we see more tho for the vast majority at least

[livid remnant]

I mean, to be fair it's only in a seasonal event

and most people think they are overtuned

in comparison to most other enemies

theres a reason everyone uses ziplines on corestone

[elder rapids]

one issue i can already see with the current system they've shown is you will 100% of the time get people who go for the meta loadout and screw everyone over, hate to say it that's just how these games work people wanna survive and if they get the best loadout they can survive and revive teammates later after shit's stopped popping off

[livid remnant]

I wonder if Season 5 had gotten delayed, where we would have been timeline wise with rogue core

kinda wish they had a sooner release date

[livid remnant]

for sure. They even mentioned they're debating on whether they want teammates to be able to see each other's builds

probably gonna be a lot of meta drones if they end up adding that

[elder rapids]

i mean you can, but then you get rotbeards who will pick the upgrade JUST to screw over others, like now where people will try to sabotage objectives

[livid remnant]

"You took "x" upgrade, you're trolling.."

[olive narwhal]

They rotate the order of who gets the first pick on team upgrades

[elder rapids]

yep, the premise seems interesing and i get their going for selfless picks but that's just not how this works

[livid remnant]

Luckily, I think the DRG community is pretty positive

[daring hill]

I think that whole issue can be solved by what already works: you can ban those people from ever joining your lobby

[umbral robin]

I haven't had time to watch the whole stream but did they touch on a out of "mission" progression system.

[livid remnant]

There are going to be account-wide and class progression if I'm correct

but they said its still heavily Work in Progress

[olive narwhal]

Well it is pre alpha atm things will be subject to change

[livid remnant]

Honestly, the Falconeer class with upgrades could be crazy

[elder rapids]

aye but that's because DRG you have upgrades per player not for the whole team, you can't for example put 3 or 4 matrix cores in so you get all of them and everyone else gets nadda

[livid remnant]

a bot that might be able to remote revive

and attack is kinda wild

[olive narwhal]

Melee class

[livid remnant]

the sword class with crit damage upgrades is for sure gonna be the "one-hit" boss class

[elder rapids]

i can definitely see this system changing to "you pick one but everyone else also can pick the same things" so people can't deliberately screw you in particular over

[olive narwhal]

Its gonna be game of if the community will be reasonable or not

Or as said just block em

[maiden mountain]

When is early access

[elder rapids]

yep and could go either way

[livid remnant]

Q4 2025

theres a closed alpha in Q2

[maiden mountain]

Wuuuuuuttt

March 2025?

[olive narwhal]

Also this

[elder rapids]

i do like how it's essentially been confirmed now that not only is hoxxes a living organism or at least the core, it's very angy

[maiden mountain]

Whats the 4th quarter of the year

[livid remnant]

Oct-Dec*

[maiden mountain]

Bro wut

Alteast Rogue core released before GTA 6

[olive narwhal]

The devs did respond to this concern in particular

[maiden mountain]

I heard it was more than 4 classes

[olive narwhal]

Its 5 atm

[maiden mountain]

6 players per game would be great

[elder rapids]

i don't see how they'll tackle the whole "if one's alive everyone benefits" like how scout turns into the combat class most of the time because scout players either die a lot or never die fuckin' EVER

[maiden mountain]

I might be a Falconeer
Cuz engineer + Gunner

[olive narwhal]

You don't benefit from you team-mates being weak so its in your best interest to not screw them over

[elder rapids]

but you do benefit from you being strong

[olive narwhal]

You do till everyone is dead

And you follow

[elder rapids]

or you survive because you got some weirdly busted build somehow thru pure luck

[olive narwhal]

There are a few sides to this.

• It is to everyone's benefit for the entire team to be strong.
• No one upgrade will make or break anything (usually)
• Most of the upgrades are not generic and as you make your builds what is best for your build starts separating from what is best for a teammate's build
• If you don't work together you will die

That 3rd point is probably the most important one for avoiding the dumb stuff

[burnt yew]

But there’s also the angle of “I can’t trust the randoms to handle things so I should take all the powerful options because I know I will make use of it”

[elder rapids]

yep

there's also the angle of "i'm a rotbeard so i want to make sure at least one person is screwed over"

[olive narwhal]

It entirely depends if that powerful stuff suits your build in the first place

[olive narwhal]

If that 3rd point stays true ideally this won't be a concern

[elder rapids]

or you had mid-mission drama with someone and have decided to be a petty shit

[burnt yew]

Surely there won’t be some super powerful generalist +30% damage upgrade that everyone will need to fight over

[elder rapids]

yeah that's an inevitability

[olive narwhal]

That would be the ideal scenario

The game will have a separate crit system from weakpoints

So scoring a crit on a weakpoint is apparently pretty nice

[elder rapids]

also again this is a videogame there will be a meta build everyone wants and thus everyone will fight over from start to finish

there's no "oh this upgrade benefits your team in this way"

[burnt yew]

Maybe gsg’s approach to balance will be different here since picks are directly impactful to your team, but I personally won’t believe it until I see it

[elder rapids]

yeah devs have tried stuff like this before, it's sadly NEVER ended well

game is selfless people are selfish

[burnt yew]

I foresee the current rotating pick system being interesting in coordinated teamplay but I can see so many potential conflict points in random matches

[olive narwhal]

If you block enough bad eggs you bound to only get good eggs eventually

[elder rapids]

i'm afraid steam's blocklist is not big enough

[olive narwhal]

If its anything like drg the bad egg list will small

[elder rapids]

yeah i can see a lot of changes happening because it feels like their chasing an ideal not a realistic idea of how gamers work

[elder rapids]

again there hasn't been as much chance for that in DRG because everything benefits everyone team wide so it's hard to bad eggs to pop up and be selfish because even if you're selfish you still benefit the team

it's not a "pick 4 but you can't pick the same thing!"

[livid remnant]

Anyone else kinda feel the runs seemed short?

they said they were averaging like 35-40 minutes

[elder rapids]

that's about the time of a mission in DRG

[olive narwhal]

Pretty standard for s roguelike/lite

[elder rapids]

feel like i'm about to get yelled at for technically starting an argument 😰

[tall plume]

didn't they say it was gonna last longer than a DRG mission? 🤔

[livid remnant]

if you go for all the side stuff maybe

[elder rapids]

aye but speedrunning and allat

[olive narwhal]

The fun part is drg missions don't have a consistent length

[idle bison]

same as a run in Roboquest I think

well actually RQ tends to be shorter

[tall plume]

Roboquest tends to be around 20-30 min and you're encouraged to go as fast as possible through the reward system

don't think RC will do the same thing

[burnt yew]

I don’t mind variable mission length as long as I can decently predict how long a run will take before I start it

The times gsg mentioned on stream seem fine imo

[olive narwhal]

The Q and A at the end hinted at the difficulty going up with time and stage

[idle bison]

this is a major problem with DRG already I'd say, but I don't think it'll be as much of an issue in RC

[livid remnant]

please GSG gods, let there be a endless mode at some point after Rogue Core gets released, 🙏

[olive narwhal]

So you might have a bit of an incentive to not dilly dally

[idle bison]

give it like 3 years at least lol

game isn't even out and people already want post launch content

[olive narwhal]

I want pre release content

[livid remnant]

I want my DRG: RC supporter DLC pack NOW

[elder rapids]

i do wonder how the drinks will look in rogue core because you can see something resembiling a bar in the preview image of the ramrod (the jokes make themselves), probably something more professional or new mugs and whatnot instead of what we have in DRG

[main hinge]

Blackout Stout Professional Edition

[elder rapids]

meant moreso the mugs, they aren't consumer products so you know,

could also be the stuff reclaimers drink is a mix of different ingredients to really knock you out

i just realized, you think corespawn are the natural inhabitants of hoxxes and the glyphids are just there somehow?

[tall plume]

possible

[elder rapids]

also what kinda reality bending bullshit is hoxxes' core!?

[neat acorn]

bruhaps the corespawn were once an actual sentient race, but they got Corrupted™️. They look a little too humanoid

and glyhids just took over since there was no one left to keep them in check

idk

[main hinge]

One of them core stones

[elder rapids]

yeah that's the feel i get from them as well, real lovecraftian

especially with how the corestones on their own can bend reality, who knows what the core itself is capable of

[magic cave]

lol

[fickle abyss]

i like to think that the core stuff has gotten warped in by space-wormhole-portal shenanigans from a diffrent planet/dimension

but it could also just be that diffrent layers of hoxxes has vastly difrent ecosystems, that would be a good headcanon for why new inhabitans gets "added"

we dig a little deeper which causes a new gremlin to be unearthed every couple months

[warped lily]

Does anyone made a tldr of all the rogue core stuff shown during the stream?

[fickle abyss]

sure but i can repeat it

no glyphids, its all crawler themed, some fly, some run at you, some spit.

[tall plume]

not yet but the timepstamped VOD is pinned in this chat

[fickle abyss]

at least 5 classes will be added, though what counts as a class is much smaller, seems to be down to a single ability being diffrent, since traversaltools and weapons can be shared equally between players

2 classes were shown, one basically had a personal bosco that can fly around and shoot at targeted enemies with electric bullets

the other had an arm blade, basically a stronger powerattack

closed alpha will start this spring, early release will hopefully be in fall next year

this was the big stuff anyway in my oppinion

[median sleet]

Have guns been confirmed yet?

[tall plume]

guns ?

[median sleet]

Those things that launch stuff at high speeds into a target you no longer wish to exist

[main hinge]

There is a new weapon called “shock blaster”

[tall plume]

I mean: what do you want to know exactly ?

[median sleet]

I am joking lol, I have nothing serious to say about rogue core yet. I have to consume the new gameplay they showed 5 more times first

[tall plume]

aight

[median sleet]

Are lootbugs confirmed?

Nvm, Q&A section they said no neutral creatures

That doesn't exclude angry lootbugs though

[exotic oyster]

angry lootbugs would be hilarious

[velvet marsh]

im really excited for rogue core. i really hope they add darth vader from fortnite to the game 😊 🙏

[tall plume]

[left hatch]

The Reclaimers really need to have a different voice from the DRG dwarves. It would also be much cooler if each class had a different voice and personality. This would allow RC to have female dwarves

GSG is a much bigger and experienced studio and it makes sense for the dwarves to have a bigger scope this time

[steel hearth]

why new shock blaster pistol instead of bug taser from survivor tho

[feral palm]

Holy rogue core looks so sick

[delicate flax]

the lootbugs are fighting back '

!

[delicate flax]

is the livestream up??

[feral palm]

I love birds so much and falconeer looks fuckin amazing

[delicate flax]

i am unable to watch it i'm at school

[feral palm]

I watched the dev thing this morning

[exotic oyster]

VOD is up on Youtube

[hollow comet]

Livestream was pretty cool, it shares so much with DRG that I’m hopeful that it should progress pretty fast towards Alpha and EA

[tall plume]

the vod is pinned in here

[hybrid mist]

I would like it if at least they didn't just sound like scout, like we saw in the live today

[left hatch]

Demand more

RC needs to have a unique identity separate from DRG

[mossy ruin]

many assets in the footage were placeholders, so it's going to look quite different than DRG by the end

[feral palm]

It will, the early footage is a lot of placeholders and designs will definitely change through development

[left hatch]

In the stream they clearly stated they planned the reclaimers to have the same voice

[exotic oyster]

the concepts of taking the enemies, the different weapons, it'll feel like the same world, same dwarves, but a different job on a different part of the planet, which I think is a solid mix.

[left hatch]

2:12:26 in the stream they address it

[next crater]

we even had to get better placeholders for some of the placeholders

[idle bison]

why new thing and not old thing. only use old thing, no make new thing

so excited for rogue core lol

hopefully we get more art posts from time to time before release too

[left hatch]

I'm very excited but the Reclaimers having the same voice as dwarves from DRG is the only contentious issue for me

[idle bison]

they won't

I'm confident of such

[native monolith]

Alright time to sit down and watch the entire on the horizon

Can’t wait for the rogue core section

[tall plume]

the ability of classes reminds me of Roboquest, once again

good stuff

[native monolith]

“Now the cool thing about these stairs is you can not only go down them but also go up them” -Aaron

[idle bison]

hoping for class specific upgrades, in that regard

[left hatch]

Go to 2:12:26 on stream and hear from them yourself

[idle bison]

placeholders

[left hatch]

Watch it

[native monolith]

NO THE BULK DETONATOR SERVER ROOM IS REAL

[feral palm]

I love the dwarves voices so

I don't mind

[left hatch]

The reclaimers are supposed to be completely different so I mind

[feral palm]

Not really

[left hatch]

If I want to hear the OG dwarf voice I can play DRG

[feral palm]

They're still dwarves, just a more professional group

[left hatch]

I want something new and GSG to step up

[feral palm]

They're making a whole new game in the same universe it's ok if stuff is similar

[left hatch]

Imagine different voices for each class, they could even add female dwarves

[feral palm]

Female dwarves would be cool tbh but even female dwarves have beards and gruff voices

🐟

[left hatch]

That's not an excuse

[feral palm]

So the dwarves you're playing in drg could be female you don't even know it

[left hatch]

I'm just very disappointed

[feral palm]

I say this as a woman with a very deep and masculine voice, it's hard to tell

[worn wave]

It's not fully off the table yet afaik

[fickle abyss]

i know people love to the do LOTR joke but this is clearly a cope

[left hatch]

Yeah that's cope

[left hatch]

I hope so

[fickle abyss]

i dont think the female dwarf stuff is coming, they cant even put in a rainbowflag

[left hatch]

Those are different things

[worn wave]

drg has flags?

[fickle abyss]

sure, my point was just that my example was a lower bar, and if thats not done, theres probably not hope for anything further

[summer dew]

I think they said female dwarves is highly unlikely

Idk if it was cost or simply for theming

[left hatch]

How certain is the team to have the reclaimers use the same dwarf voice from DRG? I just really really really wish GSG would give them a separate identity, since they're supposed to be more serious and professional. And if the classes had different voice actors, that would be even better. All I want is at least for my voice to be heard

[tall plume]

that is our plan right now
Meaning this can change. There's a whole world between now (not even alpha testing) and 1.0 release.

I still have hope things can be expanded until then

[summer dew]

Im.sure they will

If they update it like they did drg pre season 1 then one can expect a lot of changes fairly fast

[fickle abyss]

i think they can still pull off a serious dwarf voice, i think bringing in new voiceactors and still using the old models would be weird

[summer dew]

They could always just add lower tones

[fickle abyss]

it was that they would have to redo all the armor

[fickle abyss]

i think a diffrent speaking manner is fine, a diffrent tone of voice, new slogans

[summer dew]

Do they really need to tho? I mean all I can think of is a new face model

[pine skiff]

What will come first, Silksong or Rogue Core early access?

[fickle abyss]

that was what they said

[tall plume]

the models used were using the DRG cosmetics, which is placeholders

that's gonna change

[left hatch]

Thanks for your answer. So far it's the only thing I'm unhappy with. GSG has a lot more experience and budget now so I really hope they step up

[summer dew]

Lol

[tall plume]

I do hope so too
but I personally won't mind if they don't do it, it would just be a missed opportunity

still hope they will though

[summer dew]

Yeah I have the same sentiment

[pine skiff]

(I actually have no idea when Silksong is supposed to come out, or even if it's already been released)

[summer dew]

Radio silence

[left hatch]

If cost is the issue I will buy the dlcs for my friends since I already have them all

[fickle abyss]

sounded like just the armors were placeholders and that they would stick with their dwarf design, cant imagine otherwise

[tall plume]

don't think there was a new design for the dwarves, it's likely the same rig for animations

everything else around that can change though

model, animation themselves, etc

[summer dew]

It should be plausible but then again drg is a dangerous job where we get crushed, maimed, shot, eaten, so idk if the devs want to bring in female dwarves bc of that. Me personally tho i think it'd be cool

[tall plume]

I doubt the base model will be changed drastically

[left hatch]

I just really want to play as a female dwarf badass 😁

[summer dew]

Or they really can't afford another VA 😭

[median sleet]

I've wanted new voices since they announced the game. I'll be dissapointed if they don't but I'll understand it, and I'll probably still enjoy the game.

It's not that I don't want the DRG VA in Rogue Core, it's just that I'd like some more uniqueness.

[fickle abyss]

now this is just sexism, they have futureristc armor, theyre fine, AND THEYRE DWARVES

its not like the male dwarves never die

[summer dew]

Yeah thats True... which is why I'm sort of surprised they said no to the idea

Bc we also don't need armor changes

Its quite literally just changing the face and VA

And I guess adding hair

[left hatch]

If armor is done differently for each class like in DRG, it wouldn't be a problem to make one class female

I hope there are more though

[fickle abyss]

i think a curve here and there would make sense, but even a new va and hair is alot of work on its own, voice acting epesially, since its expensive, hopefully they would have a fem employee willing to do it

[summer dew]

Theres also a LOT of voicelines

[tall plume]

I'd rather they hire a professional to do it rather than give an employee more work

[fickle abyss]

i think thats a bad idea, i think it should be fully customizable, like the skin is

i mean.. the main dwarves and missioncontrol is also just a guy, think hes the lead art guy?

[summer dew]

Theres no need to do this

[fickle abyss]

think its more fitting for a voiceactor to already be "in the house"

[summer dew]

Its literally do you want female or male voice

[left hatch]

Imagine Gianni voicing a class

[tall plume]

Mission Control is Robert yes, but he doesn't have the most lines and it's from a time they were forced to do that due to a limited number of resources and employees

Javier is voicing the dwarves and have done so since the beginning

Javier is a professional VA

[fickle abyss]

thanks for clearing that up!

[summer dew]

Back when they had like 10 employees 😭

[left hatch]

And budget isn't a restriction anymore I bet

[summer dew]

Its still time consuming tho

[tall plume]

it's still important

[median sleet]

7 billion dollars if you want me to voice act

[tall plume]

not as restrictive for sure

[summer dew]

Bc essentially they would be doubling their VA work needed

[fickle abyss]

they could honestly do a fund for it, i dont think anybody would mind

[left hatch]

That's what I meant yes

[fickle abyss]

i could be horribly wrong, but i dont think theyre pressed on money, i think their main constraint is time/hands since they keep their team small

[median sleet]

They expanded a bit over the past year or 2 and moved to a new, larger office. But yeah, they're still not a very large team

[tall plume]

pretty much

[fickle abyss]

i assume theyre more loaded than previously since they have money to publish stuff themselves

[tall plume]

I can for sure confirm GSG is constantly running out of time for things

[fickle abyss]

which i like alot, giving back to the indie scene

[tall plume]

as a good example: the new ommoran phases in S5?

been planned - and somewhat tested - back in S2.

got pushed back because they kept running out of time and preffered to spend it on more important stuff

[fickle abyss]

oh my beard

[tall plume]

Making games take a long time

[median sleet]

Can't wait for new caretaker phase in S10

[tall plume]

how did you know ? 😔

[left hatch]

TBH I'm fine with DRG being stuck in S5 if it means more work on RC

The game is in a very good shape right now

[median sleet]

I have an insider

[left hatch]

Much better than S4

[median sleet]

Yeah, working an both RC and S4 seems like it was a bit too much for the devs

Sucks that seasons will take longer now, but I prefer this over getting another S4

Wouldn't mind seeing some maintenance patches though

like they did from S4-5

[summer dew]

Oh yeah

I'm willing to wait.

I wonder how closed alphas gonna work

[left hatch]

I want to participate in closed alpha. How would I do that?

[mossy ruin]

we don't know yet

the devs probably don't know either

[left hatch]

True

[fickle abyss]

i dont really care what the devs are doing as long as theyre happy, we're not entitled to any more than like 1 year of patches, anything more is a gift

[feral palm]

It was mostly a joke but as a woman with a masculine voice it makes me feel seen

:p

[fickle abyss]

hey nothing stops you from using whatever player model you want. this is just a thing alotta people have wanted over the years, i most likely wouldnt use em if they were to be added, but i'll advocate for it anyway. Nothing is lost from cosmetics being added

[delicate flax]

Please remove the omega scramblebrambler from the game, it is too broken of a boss

[left hatch]

I already gave up on female dwarves in DRG. For RC it's not too late

[fickle abyss]

omega?

[delicate flax]

The giant aoe prawn attacks are just impossible to dodge and the whirlwind is getting annoying.

[left hatch]

I think this is a reference to something and I don't get it

[rocky dove]

Shrinply move diagonally away from it

[delicate flax]

It's a rogue core boss.

[left hatch]

Ok

[delicate flax]

I tried that. But it just sniped me as I tried

[rocky dove]

Krill issue

[fickle abyss]

they would probably add em to drg retroactively. cant be hard to swap assets back and forth, since theyve already done it with the placeholders

[delicate flax]

God damn it all of you rogue core helpers just say krill issue.

Why is this a stage one boss anyways?

[left hatch]

I doubt that would happen

[delicate flax]

Genuinely worst boss in the game

[rocky dove]

Its not that clampicated

[fickle abyss]

not with that attitude

[feral palm]

It's cause you can throw a grenade into its mouth to turn off its attacks for 5 seconds

Pringloid

🐟

[native monolith]

Ok, watched through the broadcast and wow roguecore is looking sick

All the features looked cool

I am pleasantly surprised that there’s now going to be classes and a completely unique creature palette

[fickle abyss]

rockcracker 2.0 leeeessss goooooooo

[native monolith]

I do like the idea of the machinery taking the place of events

[fickle abyss]

yeah i like the more, i guess... controlled mechanized theming

[atomic crystal]

what are the thoughts on the upgrade system?

[fickle abyss]

going from a to d (not skipping b and c) going from room to room fixing stuff

[fickle abyss]

i think its going to be fine, people are overreacting, games can already be griefed, i think doubling down on cooperation will ultimately lead to even better co-op experiences

i think people can manage fine with "evening out" their power level with eachother. give the guy who last got the bad gun, the next good gun

[mossy ruin]

I think it's already better than some coop shooters out there cough cough RoR 2 coop cough cough

[atomic crystal]

I guess, but I have seen a lot of stuff about problems with a similar system in Warhammer 40,000K space marine 2

[tall plume]

to be fair RoR2 isn't co-op

[mossy ruin]

it tries to be

[tall plume]

it's solo with possibility to play in co-op - which is an afterthough more than anything

[fickle abyss]

havent seen any gameplay from any of those, but lets hope the goofy artstyle saves us

[tall plume]

at least the DLC are trying to fix that a bit

but it's still a solo game at its core

[fickle abyss]

cant wait for more dlcs so i can shamelessly throw more cash at gsg

they could have a dlc called "nothing" and i would still spend 12€

[mossy ruin]

I don't think there will be a problem with the upgrade system, even when playing pubs

because why would someone pick the option that has a higher tier color, if it doesn't fit your archetype (not accounting for players that won't know any better)

so I think that if the possible build archetypes will be balanced well, then there won't be problems wth the selection system

[tall plume]

seems like they got rid of the rarity system

they might have realised it would clash for sharing upgrades

bit sad for my monkey brain (color=happy), but it might be for the best

... or it's all gray because it is still placeholders after all

who knows

[mossy ruin]

they did?
I saw green and blue outlines on today's teaser, and the things that had it, had more text under them

but maybe you know something that I do not know

[tall plume]

I didn't see any outlines but I was also monitoring 4 chats at once

so I might have missed something

[mossy ruin]

lol

one moment

[atomic crystal]

but some of the upgrades will probably fit for just about any build, but be better for some

[mossy ruin]

like here https://youtu.be/SZdq9fLe7yM?t=5707

drills and platform gun have more stats

[tall plume]

true

though that part doesn't seem like it would create conflict
also I'm unsure of what that is exactly : are they picking up equipement with extra stats or are those upgrades ?

seems like it's the former

since the equipment bar down there is empty

I think those are equipments with different rarities - which impact their base stats

[native monolith]

i like it

brings out more teamwork

which is what i was sort of scared of going into rogue core; with the removal of classes

the teamplay element comes from the classes (and rock and stone)

so good decision on their part

the only thing im scared of, is balance will affect this a lot more than it does with drgs weapons

if something is super strong to the point of being way better than the other options, everyone will want it and feel weaker without it

luckily thats like... really fixable?

so im intrigued where theyre gonna take it

[mossy ruin]

I mean there still will be traversal tools, one of each from what we've seen, so you have to cooperate in that regard too

[ashen iron]

Season 6 can wait, and the rework of the perks can wait, what can't wait is my hype for this game, I knew that GSG was cooking something out of this world and I was not wrong. I already want to see the devs playing the pre-alpha, I need it

[humble plume]

Can't wait for my teammates to leave me as the last one to pick between the zipline gun and the flare gun

[steel hearth]

Could the bonus stats be from meta progression maybe?

[mossy ruin]

consider that the zipline will be stronger now, since the grappling hook doesn't exist

[tall plume]

don't think so, otherwise the colour wouldn't make much sense

[mossy ruin]

probably not
because it would be meta progression of who?
these rewards are for the entire team to choose

[fickle abyss]

Theres still classes, they just each have a diffrent gimmick weapon, sword and "bosco"

[fickle abyss]

Have they said theres no grapplehook?

[mossy ruin]

well, no, but it wasn't avalible in the traversal selection

[tall plume]

doesn't mean it's not there though

[fickle abyss]

By that logic the flamethrower isnt in the game either

[mossy ruin]

not really

[fickle abyss]

Yes really

[mossy ruin]

there were only 4 options to choose from on the traversal selection, meanwhile for selecting weapons and upgrades there was more options

why do you think that is?

because it sure as hell isn't accidental

[fickle abyss]

I wouldnt call flares a "traversal tool", shields and c4 could be in the pool aswell, just not picked because of rng

[mossy ruin]

ok, correction, there were only 4 choices for upgrades and weapons too lmao

I have false memories

[tall plume]

unforgivable

https://tenor.com/view/deep-rock-galactic-banished-meme-funny-bye-gif-27015086

[mossy ruin]

it would be weird if rng could make it so the only actual traversal you can choose would be the zipline, because the other choices are c4, shield, and turrets

[humble plume]

Here's a not so great analogy that highlights my concern with the upgrade system as has been teased by GSG (I understand things are subject to change, I also hope I'm wrong).

Suppose you and 3 friends boot up a new Minecraft server, except upon loading in everyone is given a UI that says "Only one person is allowed to use swords, only one is allowed to use pickaxes, only one is allowed to use axes, shovels, hoes, water buckets, etc."
You can imagine the player who was forced to choose between hoes and shears would be quite upset; not only because they won't have the tools they'd prefer to use, but also because they'd know that it was their teammates who put them in that predicament. That sort of game design wouldn't necessarily foster cooperation and could even produce undue toxicity.

[fickle abyss]

Understandable, i also had mendela effect for a moment

[fickle abyss]

We dont know have many zips we get yet, or if they get restocked more, could also be that you get to pick two throughout the run

[mossy ruin]

two traversals throughout a run?

[fickle abyss]

Would be fun to have a challenge where all the players try to stick to the traditional classes

[humble plume]

I don't want to give the impression that I think the upgrade system will fail. I only worry that it won't encourage the degree of cooperation that we see happen naturally as a result of the brilliant design of DRG.

[fickle abyss]

That would be crazy though but maybe? Grapple and plats would be insane

[mossy ruin]

we can hope that the equivalent of hoes and shears don't exist

[fickle abyss]

That why you let that guy get the diamond sword next round :D

[humble plume]

Right, there are absolutely ways to mitigate the potential friction.

[fickle abyss]

Hope the gk2 dont get left in the dirt, it seems to look so fitting in the trailer

[mossy ruin]

I mean, if you specced your MMORPG character into farming, what good would an epic sword do them?

I think that's their point

[humble plume]

Yes that is a fair point, some players won't feel like they can properly contribute with tools they're not comfortable with. I'm actually excited by that sort of challenge but I know not all players feel similarly.

[fickle abyss]

I thought you meant that like the guy who got the bad stuff is stuck with bad stuff.. so my solution would be distributing strong and weak weapons equally.

I actually think speacialization would be unhelpful in such a game, i think an atempt to make "jake of all trades" builds is better

[fickle abyss]

I mean, you gotta be good at every dwarf to be good at classic drg anyway (in my humble oppinion)

[mossy ruin]

idk, we saw perks on the teaser which were like "Hi Tech weapons get +X something" and only specific weapons have the Hi Tech tag

so I think the game will want you to lean into some archetype

[humble plume]

No doubt, and most veterans won't have any trouble adapting. It might be daunting for newbies or players who prefer a casual experience.

Hopefully the learning curve isn't too steep. That's something that will only get better with more feedback and testing.

[fickle abyss]

I dont think having two weapons in difrent groups would kill a run. I think if they wanted people to do archtypes they would have just made the game have classes like in drg.

[mossy ruin]

they said classes will have some passive perks too

those might point you to some builds too

[fickle abyss]

I think the idea is "hey lets frankenstein a build together you wouldnt normally see and become a menace to the wildlife"

[fickle abyss]

Sure, perhaps weapon preferences like in survivor

Man im so hyped

Just ~3 months away for the alpha

[tall plume]

more like 6 months away

it's Q2

[fickle abyss]

Aw q2? I misremembered

Its so over

https://tenor.com/view/tony-soprano-sopranos-bed-bored-gif-22793869

[mossy ruin]

I'll probably wait till early access

want my first experience to be when the game is more or less finished

[fickle abyss]

Disagree, but fair

[native monolith]

Well they don’t have the things that make classes classes in drg is what I mean

Being the traversal and utility tools

[mossy ruin]

I mean you pick them

[native monolith]

Abilities, sure, but those don’t really affect your teammates as much as they others do

[mossy ruin]

so you kinda become the class lel

[native monolith]

Fair enough

[tall plume]

then wait for 1.0

if EA is anything like DRG was, it's gonna be a wild ride

https://tenor.com/view/war-vietnam-ptsd-shell-shock-moment-gif-3022747568394546158

[mossy ruin]

I see

[native monolith]

I’m trying to get into rogue core at every chance I can lol

I eagerly await the closed alpha lottery

[fickle abyss]

How was alpha done for deeprock, did everyone who asked get a seat on the bus?

[tall plume]

@south kiln might remember

[fickle abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/old-man-grandpa-gif-15302685

[south kiln]

Back in the day it was like that, because they were building the community from nothing. Now they're established so it hard to know exactly who will or won't be allowed into the closed alpha, or for how long.

[carmine zenith]

No

It was an email signup and people were seemingly randomly chosen in waves

Not everyone got in

Beta was open to everyone

[marsh minnow]

what did GSG talk abt in the video

[tall plume]

the video is in the pinned messages if you wanna check it out

[south kiln]

Are we talking skinny spooders build or indev assets build for the space rig before that, I might be confusing

[mossy ruin]

I had a tldr prepared, but unfortunately, it's not in english
and I don't wann translate all that (a little over 2000 characters)

[languid ridge]

Where can I watch the stream from earlier?

[mossy ruin]

check pins

[tall plume]

pinned messages

[fickle abyss]

Translation websites are your friend

[mossy ruin]

don't trust those

[marsh minnow]

isn't that the whole livestream

[tall plume]

yeah
timestamped the link for the RC segment though

[junior knoll]

Cool creatures shown today

[native monolith]

Yeah

The horror aspect is looking really cool

I’m definitely looking forward to hearing some wicked sounds and going “erm… he’s right behind me isn’t he” to the team

[little lagoon]

Did we got anything new

In the horizon stream

[verbal wolf]

I hope the Flare Gun can get damage upgrades so I can make the ultimate combat Flare Gun build.

[mossy ruin]

very much so

[verbal wolf]

New enemies, classes, some terrain gen shown.

[little lagoon]

Cool gonna check it

[mossy ruin]

the upgrade system got explained

[little lagoon]

That’s fire

[verbal wolf]

We actually haven't seen Coil Gun pop up in any of the Rogue Core clips and screenshots.

[mossy ruin]

[verbal wolf]

This is a reference to how Coil Gun makes you invincible, meaning none of the miners with it would die.

[mossy ruin]

maybe that's the same reasons we didn't see any grappling hooks so far

all the scouts shrimply escaped the facility

[tall plume]

also drg merch

#drg-chat message

[verbal wolf]

They forgot their Flare Guns though, as per usual.

[mossy ruin]

ditched dead weight

weren't seeing much use anyway

[verbal wolf]

Maybe it'll get used by the Reclaimers. Giga RoF Flare Gun will be possible.

[mossy ruin]

theoretically, you could restart the same mission again and again untill you got an epic rarity flaregun with +300% RoF at the start

[verbal wolf]

They confirmed grenades will take up a weapon slot and will be buffed from DRG.

Leadburster that just instantly kills the entire cave. Oh wait.

[mossy ruin]

they said that?

[verbal wolf]

#rogue-core-chat message

[mossy ruin]

I see

so two weapons, a grenade, and a traversal

or maybe you don't have to do that

maybe you can just have 3 grenades

[verbal wolf]

Well you only have three slots IIRC.

[verbal wolf]

Triple Phero Nade build.

[mossy ruin]

hell yeah

[mossy ruin]

I see four here
https://youtu.be/SZdq9fLe7yM?t=5649

unless the first one is always going to be occupied by the "fist"

[verbal wolf]

Oh, interesting.

I remember there being three slots from previous screenshots.

Triple Phero Nade build + Lead Storm so you can actually defeat bosses.

[mossy ruin]

ok, it isn't because later in the stream, we see a weapon in the first slot https://youtu.be/SZdq9fLe7yM?t=5810

so yeah, 4 slots

[verbal wolf]

Imagine if Rogue Core had Stun Sweeper but you had more control over it, was infinite uses, and was a bird.

[mossy ruin]

that would be crazy I think

[faint aspen]

Hmm
I think I'd like to say I'm still very much skeptical about Rogue Core, the Corespawn in DRG feel like the type of thing heavily upscaled for the sake of being "ooo big scary new thing" only to become complete pisstakes in a different exe file somehow
suffice it to say if the Rogue Crawlers are our new enemies then I really hope they aren't as annoying to fight

[verbal wolf]

Too strong. They'd never add that.

[faint aspen]

I'm hopeful GSG can do it, if anyone can then it'd be them but still

[mossy ruin]

they didn't even show how corespawn crawlers behave in rogue core

[verbal wolf]

They probably behave near identically to DRG.

[mossy ruin]

yeah

but you won't be seeing them as often as a grunt

[faint aspen]

well if it's anything like DRG then I
am not looking forwards to every enemy hopping around the caves like that

[mossy ruin]

you watched the stream, right?