terraria-pc

[flint bison]

or reintroduce jungle

[thin jungle]

So my concern would have been to preserve plantera habitat right?

What do you mean?

[flint bison]

Special seed that makes the surface all corrupted

Super fun seed for sure

[thin jungle]

Im just doing my first run ever 😄

[flint bison]

Yee using some random seed is best in early playthroughs

As long as you pick the size you want of course

[thin jungle]

Discovering the game bit by bit as i bought it a lot of years ago but always dropped it cause none of my friend liked terraria, this year i decided to make a single player run and enjoy it myself

I believe i picked medium world maybe?

I dont know large seemed overwhelming

[urban mountain]

Secret seeds should be used once you are used to play vanilla Terraria

[thin jungle]

Yeah i believe i will Experience em

I think i will nonetheless make 2 large hellevators close to jungle

As mining in games has always relaxed me

And then i will keep upgrading my equip with the best ore i can find

Once i am set up with the upgrades I’ll keep exploring and i think i will work on npc happiness

[urban mountain]

Sure go nuts

[glass summit]

npc happiness is such a chore

[velvet sentinel]

im new to terreria can someone showcase the best items in the game for me

[sly geode]

Hello

Someone for playing?

[strong epoch]

#archive-ltp

after 44 attempts I finally did it... I got the EoL wings... this game is trying to kill me I swear -_- (at least I have tons of money for reforges now)

[sly geode]

Ohhh

[pale hill]

does anyone have some magic/melee items and armor I can keep? my friends are way ahead of me and I want to be able to catch up

[fast hill]

who want to 1v1

[snow mason]

Damn

You gotta go a different channel for that man

[fast hill]

what channel then

[urban mountain]

#archive-ltp

[flint oxide]

do jungle shines spawn in the everything seed?

[urban mountain]

Yes

In the jungle

[flint oxide]

so like under the temple

[hushed burrow]

Can smn please help me with eater of worlds its impossible for me to kill it.

[sullen quest]

Does any of the hand of creation components stack

like does ancient chisel stack with it

[urban mountain]

No... the jungle

Anywhere underground like normal

[urban mountain]

They don't

[civic swift]

Nope

[icy stream]

I can

[hushed burrow]

add me on dc

[icy stream]

hol up

[twilit totem]

Piercing weapons like the Vilethorn or a demon bow with jester arrows can make quick work of it

At least at that stage of progression

I think if you go early, the Volcano can do some damage

[halcyon gulch]

if you do that you'll get spoiled

[twilit totem]

It’s best to play the game blind and experience it with minimal help unless you need to use the wiki

[storm hull]

I swear to god

[urban mountain]

Late af responses

[storm hull]

my Terraria luck just expired in one second

[urban mountain]

Prolly already spoiled

[storm hull]

tree shaking

both wands right after each other

I wanna post the capture but can't lol

[twilit totem]

Your luck hates you I guess?

[urban mountain]

Many kings in this chat

Smh royalty

[twilit totem]

My most recent character did wear the princess outfit with Leinfor’s hat

So in a way, my character was royalty

[idle tangle]

hey whats up everybody

i hate to be this guy but could anyone drop me a cobalt drill? closed the game and for some reason i no longer have a pick

i only have tungsten ore left lmao

[urban mountain]

You can get items here

[urban mountain]

Or that

Lol

[idle tangle]

ahhh i appreciate it lmao

[warm spindle]

Or just make another one bc cobalt is super easy to get

[fringe moat]

You need a Pickaxe to get cobalt

[warm spindle]

They probably have other materials lying around

If you dont keep ores thats your L ngl

[fringe moat]

“I only have tungsten gets ore left”

[twilit totem]

Tungsten to demonite or Crimtane, then to hellstone is easy

[warm spindle]

Ok use tungsten or just bomb hellstone

[twilit totem]

Hellstone can’t be bombed-

[warm spindle]

Hellstone blows up with bombs post wof im pretty sure

[twilit totem]

It’s never been able to be blown up

[urban mountain]

Yes

HM hellstone can be blown up

[twilit totem]

Oh

[warm spindle]

Yea i thought so

[twilit totem]

Damn I just never knew

[warm spindle]

Sounds pretty easy to get back your progress

[twilit totem]

When was that added?

[warm spindle]

And it teaches the lesson of saving your materials past your immediate needs

[idle tangle]

first time getting this far i have no idea how to do jack

[twilit totem]

Hardmode?

[fringe moat]

Who is Jack

[urban mountain]

Jack Terraria

The guy who invented Terraria

[idle tangle]

yeah you know jack

[twilit totem]

Just collect the new ores and collect souls of night/light with lenses, bones, and vertebrae/rotten chunks to make the mechanical boss summons

Is it normal that the main melee weapons I use are usually Zenith components with other classes like a summon, sentries, or a gun?

[urban mountain]

No

That's called multiclass

[idle tangle]

recommended weapons? i tried fighting it with the fire flail thing and a pair of wings

[twilit totem]

Which boss?

[idle tangle]

big worm

[urban mountain]

Fight what

Blue slime?

[twilit totem]

Eater of Worlds or Destroyer?

[idle tangle]

destoyer

[urban mountain]

Smh be specific

[twilit totem]

Destroyer is easy to kill with the Daedalus Stormbow and holy arrows

[fringe moat]

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1BOFcsgKl2gvc7IaFYKHusIQYlhtMj5bm

[fringe moat]

Used to be
That is a pretty shit combo now

[twilit totem]

Star Shooter may also help

[idle tangle]

bruh i dont know these boss names chill

[twilit totem]

It’s fine

[urban mountain]

But you do know

💀

[twilit totem]

The Destroyer is easy to fight away from the surface

[idle tangle]

i forgot until i saw it?

[fringe moat]

What

[idle tangle]

bros upset that i didnt know a boss name

[twilit totem]

If it’s on the surface, it’ll dig around and trap you

There’s only 15 bosses

[idle tangle]

didnt mean to reply to that, i appreciate you sending that lol

[twilit totem]

Well 17 main bosses not including the events

[idle tangle]

im not on rn, like i said first time killing wof as of yesterday

[twilit totem]

I decided to take a break after beating the game on two different servers in classic and expert with some friends

[urban mountain]

Good

Terraria burnout is real

[icy stream]

can anyone help me get a depth meter?

[hushed burrow]

What is best pre hardmode armor for melee?

[last gull]

Hellstone iirc

Sounds right, though you could argue about Shadow armour being more effective

[halcyon gulch]

15% crit prehardmode

[last gull]

Yea, it.. certainly has stats

[mystic musk]

buenas

[last gull]

I think though +17% melee damage, +7% melee speed and crit outweighs that, but I don't really want to run the calculations, so I'll leave it open-ended

[severe sky]

did you guys know that the zenith bow exists in vanilla terraria

[hollow crystal]

Can someone help me understand why my rapid minishark with silver bullets and unreal demon bow with jester arrows is only doing 1 damage to skeletron? I’m on JM mode btw

[last gull]

https://terraria.wiki.gg/wiki/Skeletron#Expert_Mode

[hollow crystal]

Nah cus even after the hands were dead it still was doing consistently 1 damage

[last gull]

No mods?

[sharp smelt]

does calamity revenge mode or whatever have like loot bags like when co op kill booses

[hollow crystal]

Vanilla game

[last gull]

You're sure you killed the hands, and that they didn't fly off the screen not to be seen again? They do that sometimes also

@sharp smelt You mean Expert Mode?

[slender grove]

looking for someone to play pc, mastermode, zenith seed, 15 and older, dm me to join

[last gull]

#archive-ltp read pins

[slender grove]

24/hour server

[sharp smelt]

sure

[hushed burrow]

What is best weapon to defeat skeletron in pre hard mode? (any)

[civic swift]

what weapons do you have now?

[slender grove]

Me?

[civic swift]

flaily

[hasty pier]

can someone help me getting the Inffux Waver?

[warm spindle]

#terraria-help

[hasty pier]

They told me to cheat it in

[warm spindle]

hi

[warm spindle]

yea you should

[hasty pier]

How

Do i

Do it

[warm spindle]

journey mode

[hasty pier]

...

I thought only Journey pjs could enter Journey worlds

[opaque trail]

im trying to get back into terraria would anyone be wiling to show me the ropes?

[icy stream]

Can someone give me/help me get a Depth Meter? (PC, Vanilla)

[warm spindle]

funny arena

its still small unfortunately ill probably make it twice as big or so

[neat hollow]

oh?

[upper perch]

why i can't join a voice chat ?

[hushed burrow]

Can someone please join my server and help me with skeletron?

[empty peak]

yo @icy stream u still need the item?

[slender grove]

looking for someone to play pc, mastermode, zenith seed, 15 and older dm me to join

[rare copper]

ye

[slow kernel]

Just starting playing again. Anyone want to play together? I need to be shown the ropes again

[tiny wyvern]

i will

[lethal zealot]

is there a way to get the achivement supreme helper minion easy

[harsh spoke]

i have sent one message in this serer... why am i still here i dont know do i care.... no

[tranquil fog]

how do you use

https://yal.cc/r/terrasavr/

[flint bison]

Journey mode to speed up time so you can fish again faster after turning in

You can also use that to make it rain so your fishing power is stronger

[astral drift]

can someone give me 5 shark fins

[tranquil fog]

like i can get the items i want i just dont get how to save it and then load that saved file into the game

[velvet latch]

I started a new world on expert and I’m wondering which boss is easier; EoC or KS

[chilly skiff]

Whos ks

Oh king slime

Tbh

[velvet latch]

Yes

[chilly skiff]

Both easy

But ks is way easier

[final pecan]

why do i randomly get -27% fishing power when i fish in the desert?

(playing with tmod loader)

[limpid birch]

Guys i need help. when the moon lord spawns i want to get away from him the moment he spawns but he keeps spawning in middle and catches up when i try to escape.what do i do?

[hushed burrow]

run

[limpid birch]

i do

but he still catches up

[hushed burrow]

get better boots ig

[tranquil fog]

oh it worked but thank you :)

[rare copper]

magic mirror terraspark boots flying mount swiftness potion

if that doesnt work then idk

[tiny badge]

He's designed to teleport to players who move too far away.

You can quickly recall to the Nurse's house, heal, then get back to your arena.

[limpid birch]

hmm that is a good idea

[slow relic]

guys do you know a quick and easy ay to get aglet I am trying to make lightning boots and that is all I need

[flint yew]

make another world and loot the surface chests

[humble lion]

terramap.github.io, world hop, buy it from skele merchant

[slow relic]

ok

[formal cairn]

Am I the only person who only builds stacked rectangle houses for NPC's and nothing else? Takes me a long time to get around the map but teleporters are like a giant length of wire so placing them would take hours and I just don't have the patience. Same for building farms and arenas. It's so ugh spending hours mining a giant area underground to make a gold farm that I just don't. Same with boss arenas and the like. I also suck at coming up with designs so idk how i'd even begin to make anything better than a rectangle house lol

[humble lion]

use pylons

[formal cairn]

at best i've managed to get 3 of those before and they end up failing because the jungle becomes corruption or the like. Even if that wasn't the case it still would only cover part of the issues 😦

[humble lion]

It's easy to get more pylons if you know what npc like who and what biome

[formal cairn]

I looked up guides for the best combos of what NPC's to put where but almost all the combos needed at least one NPC from hardmode/late hardmode and by then corruption makes them useless anyway

[humble lion]

Nurse and arms dealer

Put them literally anywhere

[formal cairn]

oh ok hmm I thought it took 3 to get a pylon and only certain NPC's could have certain pylons haha

ty for the tip

[humble lion]

No, 2

[formal cairn]

btw since they added it i've started over and gotten to and killed moon lord on 3 saves and still have not seen all the parts of the hand of creation between all 3 saves. That Travelling merchant is really horrible in offering the right stuff.

and I haven't seen an ancient chisel in the desert either

[jolly lion]

collect ❐, everybody

collect the ❐

[tribal anchor]

❐

[hollow kiln]

amogus

pim pim pim pim pim pim pim

[tribal anchor]

liar

[flat bough]

how long into hardmode should it take for me to kill all 3 mech bosses?

[cedar vine]

who wanna play tmodloader master mode

[hushed burrow]

Is there npc i can buy gold from?

[flat bough]

not that i know of, but you can get a ton with a spelunker potion or duping

[hollow crystal]

So it turns out that I did not actually kill the hands… I did last night but I got skullfucked at the last half of skeletron’s hp

[bleak nova]

In order for mimics to spawn the only condition is that there must be a natural dirt wall?

Or are there other factors?

e.g.: light, blocks...

[civic swift]

on the surface thats all they need, yeah

are they not spawning?

[bleak nova]

I was just asking

I'm in pre-hardmode

It is because I did some quarantine tunnels around my base and I was wondering if they could work for mimic farming

[hushed burrow]

What is best class in vanila terraria?

[shut wraith]

Are you in getfixedboi?

[bleak nova]

no

I know that mimics don't spawn in my world yet.

I just wanted to have something a mimic farm ready whenever I start hardmode

[flat bough]

is there a good way to farm the amarok, or do i just have to farm it normally

[civic swift]

I mean just making a basic farm in ice caverns will get you it very fast, or if you already have a cavern farm just place 1500 ice blocks

[flat bough]

i dont really know how to make farms and stuff like that. my knowledge of this game is prehardmode, and very early prehardmode, and then end game. the in between is a grey area for me

i have watched like 40 videos explaining what to do from here, and i got that i need to kill the mech bosses, but in order to do so, i need some extra gear, which i dont have yet

[urban mountain]

If you have to kill the mechs you are already in hardmode

Get the hardmode ores destroying altars

[tiny badge]

Well, you can bring the Mech summons into a pre-Hardmode world, but that's very unlikely to be the case here. Also, you can't get Plantera's Bulbs to grow unless you're in Hardmode.

[midnight flame]

How to make the early game more fun? I've recently started playing the game with my friend who has already beaten the game and right now, the early game just isn't fun. We do talk about fun things in our calls and chats so it's a little better, but rn the gameplay is just boring and we aren't finding any chests.

[urban mountain]

Make your hellevator

[midnight flame]

What do I get for that?

any special Items?

[urban mountain]

Easy access to hell

Whatever resource you come across

Ores

Heart crystals and such

[midnight flame]

oh

Do the enemies one shot me?

I think I've got 120 hp

[urban mountain]

I assume you are on classic so not really

[midnight flame]

nope

expert

I think

[urban mountain]

You'd get two shot by hell enemies

[warm spindle]

yeah get more

[urban mountain]

You'll find heart crystals as you dig down

That's why hellevators are important

[midnight flame]

I think I've got some ruby Staff does it do Okish damage?

[warm spindle]

flrg

for the first two bosses yeah

[urban mountain]

Focus on boosting your health

[midnight flame]

Alright

[urban mountain]

So you can explore the other more dangerous biomes

[midnight flame]

My friend mostly does the exploring

[urban mountain]

If you intend to main mage damage

[midnight flame]

as I've got no idea about what to do and what to look for

[urban mountain]

Explore the underground jungle

The basic terraria progression is
Get gear
Kill boss
Get better gear
Kill stronger boss

Until you win the game

[midnight flame]

My friend also said we can get my next staff after beating the eye of Catulu or something

[midnight flame]

thank you very much for this explanation

I think I'll go build that "Hellevator" thingy now

[tiny badge]

Well, you don't need to beat the Eye to craft a new magic weapon, but you can get one from a salesman after its defeat.

[wanton yacht]

Hi, what is the key to remove the "destruction mode", I can't remove it and i don't know why usually, I can destruct a block with my mouse but now there is a yellow square

[midnight flame]

Oh okay

[midnight flame]

control

I think that's the Keybind

[wanton yacht]

i love you

Thx you so much

[midnight flame]

did it work?

[urban mountain]

That's called smart cursor

[wanton yacht]

Yes

[urban mountain]

Useful for mining

So remember to toggle it when needed

[midnight flame]

Do I use it for my elevator thing?

[wanton yacht]

Ok thanx

[urban mountain]

Yeah

Just turn it on and dig down

Setting up rope as you go

[midnight flame]

I got an umbrella

It makes me not take fall damage

[midnight flame]

Btw how to find a server's IP Address?

[urban mountain]

I dunno

[midnight flame]

me and my friend always played by joining each other over steam

[lusty quarry]

James is here too?

[urban mountain]

No

[earnest comet]

any tips on mechanical worm? im on mythril and got recked the 4th time

im mainly using cannons

for dps

out of most potions atm after several tries

[umbral jolt]

Daedalus stormbow

[earnest comet]

thanks, ill try to get one

[umbral jolt]

there are better options but that's usually my go to

like nights edge

[lusty bluff]

did the swords get reworked in 1.4.4?

btw how do i get the summoner role

[odd saffron]

There is a lot to read but I don't have all the changes in mind https://terraria.wiki.gg/wiki/1.4.4

[lusty bluff]

thanks

[twilit totem]

My celebrationmk10 world and server spawned multiple pools of shimmer, is that normal for the seed’s generation or no?

Since I always assumed the Aether only spawns the one pool

On the celebrationmk10 server, it goes all the way down to above the Underworld

[twilit totem]

Go to #bot-commands

Or maybe I’m wrong which I am

[lusty bluff]

idk the command

[twilit totem]

You can just edit your username on the server to include summoner

[last gull]

There's no "summoner" role.

Closest thing to that are the Pillar roles, which afaik are assigned at random

[lusty bluff]

so what are the commands for it

[last gull]

What commands, for what?

[lusty bluff]

for the pillar roles

[last gull]

which afaik are assigned at random

[lusty bluff]

so i cant change it

[last gull]

Yeh

[lusty bluff]

😔

[last gull]

I mean, you can by leaving and rejoining technically

[lusty bluff]

i remember i changed it to startdust a while ago

[last gull]

Looks like they were planned to be able to be changed, and it just was never implemented lol

[ebon smelt]

is there a summon for calamity 1.4 that is more of a support type like Wolfum drone?

[last gull]

Ask #terraria-modded probably

[ebon smelt]

okay thank you

[cedar vine]

Who wanna play calamity with me

[last gull]

#archive-ltp read pins

[dusky dragon]

what gear should i have to defeat fishron pre mech as a ranger?

im using uzi and stormbow

[last gull]

What bosses have you defeated thus far?

Oh wait pre-mech

I'm blind

Expert mode?

[dusky dragon]

well

yes

expert

mode

i cant kill any mech boss for some reason

so im trying to kill fishron so i can kill em easily

ive got a bunch of truffle worms (abt 8

[tribal anchor]

re

[last gull]

That sounds like not a reason to go to fish, but eh what do I know right?
Prob want SoC, Frog Leg/Balloon, and any HM wings.
Magic Quiver, Stalker Quiver, and Ranger Emblem prob suitable for other 3 accessories; +45% damage from bows/arrows
Ammo is up to you, I'd say prob want holy arrows to deal with sharks and bubbles, and ichor bullets for +15 damage per hit.
Armour I think you want Frost armour? Extra dps from frostburn, and more damage is good.

[dusky dragon]

uhhh....

i have like 3 magic quivers

i use a molten quiver

i have terraspark boots

ranger emblem

frost armour

i have brain of confision from other world

so i cant get igor

[last gull]

Molten Quiver fine I guess, I thought Stalker Quiver kept Putrid Scent stats

[dusky dragon]

i do have a couple of holy arrows as in like 800

i also have fairy wings

i think angel slime mount is good for fishron

so how do i get putrid scent?

[errant gulch]

🥺 🥺 🥺

[dusky dragon]

also this is my second world

[errant gulch]

hi

[last gull]

Putrid Scent is Corruption Mimic drop.
If your world was created with Crimson, you can get Corrupt Seeds from the Dryad in a Graveyard.
From there, you either wait for natural Biome Mimic spawns, or if your world was created with Corruption, you can spawn them with a chest and a Key of Night.

[dusky dragon]

on the first one im in normal and still in pre hard mode

oh

[errant gulch]

my mom calls me putrid scent 🥺

[last gull]

Stalker Quiver is less helpful here than I thought, though, Molten Quiver is fine

[dusky dragon]

alr

[errant gulch]

my crush calls me stalker 🥺

[dusky dragon]

wait so can i make a crimson?

[jade sapphire]

yes

[last gull]

Yeh

[dusky dragon]

woah

[last gull]

https://terraria.wiki.gg/wiki/Dryad#Items_sold

[dusky dragon]

can i make one in the air and it wont spread?

[last gull]

Yeh

[errant gulch]

thats what i asked my dad about farts 🥺

[dusky dragon]

oh

how many blocks?

[last gull]

iirc 200

[dusky dragon]

alright

thx

[errant gulch]

🥺 🥺 🥺

hi 🥺

[dusky dragon]

im still in pre mech and i have 3 blessed apples

is that a flex?

[errant gulch]

🥺 thats

[last gull]

Looks like... 1/30 chance in Expert mode, not too bad

[dusky dragon]

alr

[errant gulch]

can i please ask a question about terraria 🥺

[dusky dragon]

im gonna do hmw see ya

[errant gulch]

do girls poop and fart 🥺 or no 🥺

plz plz plz 🥺

can somebody tell me if girls fart🥺

plz do girls poop🥺

can a girl tell me if they pee and poop🥺

[obtuse granite]

Which is a better buff combo, Celestial emblem + avenger or Celestial emblem + destroyer?

[errant gulch]

plz do girls have bowel movements🥺

[last gull]

Destroyer

[obtuse granite]

aight, tqvm

[errant gulch]

🥺 you guys are mean 🥺

[obtuse granite]

[errant gulch]

do you fart 🥺

[last gull]

+8% crit outweighs -2% damage

[obtuse granite]

understandable

tqvm

ahh oh no

i thing i lost my eye of golem

[last gull]

rip

[urban mountain]

Should have kept an eye on it

[last gull]

hah

[urban mountain]

[dusky dragon]

i have 2 hollow and 2 corrupt keys 💀

is it posible to craft ropes?

nvm i got some

[errant gulch]

dk a

w

[left night]

If anyone needs help, or items duped DM Me

[dusky dragon]

are mud blocks coruptable?

[tough dew]

when will terraria be chaper

[slow relic]

it only £7.99

that is a great deal

(on steam)

wait guys is funni skele merchant underground or in caverns

[knotty pumice]

what

isnt underground, the caverns? or do you mean the forest caverns?

[last gull]

They're technically given to the player as different depths

https://terraria.wiki.gg/wiki/Layers#Cavern*

[wanton cove]

any tmod linux players i cant get it to work

[dusky dragon]

how am i meant to get igor on the surface @last gull

[tiny badge]

The Underground layer is the layer below the Surface, comprising mostly Dirt and Stone caves in its standard form, with a brown dirt wall background. The Caverns layer makes up most of the world and lies below the Underground, with a grey stone wall background instead.

[tiny badge]

You can fish for Hematic Crates, I believe.

[timid plinth]

hey i just joined

[dusky dragon]

oh

i see

[knotty pumice]

right

[timid plinth]

i need a bit help with terraria

[last gull]

Don't ask to ask; if you have a question, just ask the question. #terraria-help probably better, but who cares amirite.

[loud elk]

[last gull]

Just..
download workshop
Or go to free items server
Or host tShock server
Or use inventory editor
Or use tEdit
Or spend like 30 min and get it normally, it's not even that bad.
More accurate to say 5-10 min here tbh

If you don't know what any of those are, allow me to suggest Google.

[inland geode]

Dude just go to an all items server

Isnt that hard

Then we arent droppin you any pixie dust

Mf it takes 10 minutes to get 40

[last gull]

That's what I'm saying

[inland geode]

And 30 seconds to go to an all items server and type /i pixie dust 40

Heres one

Ip: eternia.uk

Port:7777

(NOT ETHERIA,ETERNIA)

[last gull]

Classless?

Should be using yoyo or Flying Knife if you're aiming for melee damage. You can use solid tiles to hide from them while they're firing, and focus on dodging when they perform dash attacks.

Looks like Gradient or Amarok for mechs

Daedalus Stormbow by far the superior choice for ranged builds at mechs

https://terraria.wiki.gg/wiki/Key_of_Light

[tiny badge]

You can also get Flying Knife from said Mimics.

[last gull]

^

Yeah, Terraria is a game you need to have the wiki on-hand for

[tiny badge]

Yup. The Key of Night summons the Mimic type of the world evil chosen on world creation.

[dusky dragon]

I KILLED MY FIRST MECH LETS GOOOOOO

skellington prime is the easiest one so far

okay

[obtuse granite]

Soo tell me this, i crafted the void bag, put my stuffs in it, including 3 of a max stacked block. and somehow it disappears just like that?

[dusky dragon]

what should i make out of the hallowed bars i got?

should i kill another smellington prime for more?

[last gull]

Soo tell me this, i crafted the void bag, put my stuffs in it, including 3 of a max stacked block. and somehow it disappears just like that?
What is "it" here?

should i kill another smellington prime for more?
Not a bad idea

[obtuse granite]

the max stacked blocks

it somehow just disappeared like that

[last gull]

You're sure you put them in the vault?
Did you do anything else other than that? Crafting, inventory management, etc?

[hushed burrow]

What weapon/armor should i get when i just started hard mode in calamity?

[last gull]

Better Q for #terraria-modded

[dusky dragon]

hey stardust

[obtuse granite]

its just placing them in the void bag

gives some time, and the blocks will randomly disappeared

[dusky dragon]

what should be the first thing i craft out of hallow bars?

super star cannon?

[last gull]

Doesn't sound like an issue I've had. I guess just make a bug report of it #how-to-report

what should be the first thing i craft out of hallow bars?
Depends on what class damage type you're aiming for

[dusky dragon]

ranger

[last gull]

Star cannon probably a fine idea, if you can afford star cost. Good investment for destroyer

[dusky dragon]

wait

so destroyer can be killed easily with the cannon?

oh ye

piercing

[last gull]

stars pierce inf
Edit: Unless you're on a certain world seed because

[dusky dragon]

ah

so i can absolutely destroy him

[dusky dragon]

nop im on a random one

alr

lets destroy this worm

[obtuse granite]

Oh good news

Even the potions i put in there disappeared

?????????????????????????????

[last gull]

Not normal void behaviour. Playing solo, your player file is intact, etc?

Actually, I take it back. Potions are normal now because of changes in most recent patch

"Oops I quick-buffed and it used 5 potions I didn't know I had"

Really dislike changes, because void picking up extra items automatically is super useful. Accidentally using items in it is so much less so.

Also not something I'm keen on looking through source to change. The ammo/bait indicators, and info accessory colours were easy enough.
I'd need to see if void pickup is handled on items or player, and like, each one takes half a year to decompile, and it's just hell, not to mention quick-buff, quick-heal, mana keybind, ammo use, and crafting from void

[hushed burrow]

What weapon should i get in hardmode calamity?

[last gull]

Question for #terraria-modded

[obtuse granite]

im playing multi with friend

[next knot]

Wait?! Banners can stack up to 300% dmg boost?

[last gull]

Banners don't stack

im playing multi with friend
Might be desync then I guess?

Probably not, but honestly, Terraria's functionality is black magic

[next knot]

That's what I thought.
Nvm.

[last gull]

Never go to gpt for questions or answers that aren't writing papers

And even then I recommend against it

[next knot]

Its good for learning code, Really helpful for it to explain things to you.

[last gull]

mm, until it gives you a wrong answer

[hushed burrow]

Which npc in calamity mode sells purified gels? (in hardmode)

[feral wind]

Ayo hi guys

[dusky dragon]

why cant i destroy the destroyer 😦

ikr

im using the super star destroyer

[feral wind]

Uhhh i did not get the joke

[next knot]

I think he meant to reply to someone esle.

[feral wind]

Ph okay

[dusky dragon]

i think i found a cheese strategy on youtube

use conch to tp to ocean

then use stars

[hushed burrow]

im playing on pc so i can ask here too

[dusky dragon]

ye but u play on modded

uhh

i just got the gelatin world tour achievement

[wind dew]

hi

how is everyone

good that’s good

chillin man

[dusky dragon]

same

[wind dew]

who here listens to dubstep

damn

[warm spindle]

guys is here someone german

oh

but i m german

[dusky dragon]

HELP

A SOLAR ECLIPSE IS HAPPENING

WHAT AM I MEANT TO DO

YEAH BUT I DO WANT THE ITEMS

ALR

ITS DAY RN

[calm oriole]

[last gull]

#archive-ltp read pins

[dusky dragon]

that was easy af

solar eclipse 101: use an uzi

right so i got a moon stone how do i get a sunstone?

[last gull]

https://terraria.wiki.gg/wiki/Sun_Stone

[dusky dragon]

also why didnt mothron spawn in my solar eclipse

[neon robin]

Pre golem/plantera?

[dusky dragon]

ah

okay

and is mothboy easy

[neon robin]

Yea

Its similar to queen bee but not as fast

[dusky dragon]

alr

[brisk cipher]

someone wanna help me kill the lunatic cultist

[hushed burrow]

In what biome in calamity does mythril spawn?

[last gull]

Dude

Also;

someone wanna help me kill the lunatic cultist
#archive-ltp read pins

[calm oriole]

Can The Twins appear without using the Mechanical Eye, right?

[last gull]

Twins can spawn naturally, yes

With the warning message, "This is going to be a terrible night."

[calm oriole]

I just finished experiencing it'

[rough urchin]

[hasty pier]

Does someone have the influx Waver?

[last gull]

Just..
download workshop
Or go to free items server
Or host tShock server
Or use inventory editor
Or use tEdit
Or spend like 30 min and get it normally, it's not even that bad.

[calm oriole]

:3

[near gyro]

I have a question about Bone Pickaxe. I just mine obsidian block but wiki said that is impossible. Pickaxe power is 55%.

[last gull]

It was changed in 1.4.4

Rather; required pickaxe power to mine obsidian was

[near gyro]

oh, wiki is outdated 🙂

[last gull]

Wiki has some problems, yea.
It's correct on the page about Obsidian though

On the Desktop version, Console version, and Mobile version, mining Obsidian requires a pickaxe with at least 55% pickaxe power (the Gold Pickaxe and its counterpart, the Platinum Pickaxe, are the weakest pickaxes able to do so).
On https://terraria.wiki.gg/wiki/Obsidian

Neglects to mention bone pickaxe but what are you gonna do I guess

[icy stream]

Nah, I do need a obsidian rose, but thanks for the offer!

[terse condor]

should my block placement speed on calamity be on steroids? feels like im placing blocks 3x as fast as normal terraria lol

[last gull]

Sounds like clam. You might try asking #terraria-modded

[obsidian rose]

i need moonglows but there are none in my jungle what do i do

[brisk ruin]

anyone got like 40 souls of light

[last gull]

Just..
download workshop
Or go to free items server
Or host tShock server
Or use inventory editor
Or use tEdit
Or spend like 30 min and get it normally, it's not even that bad.
More accurate to say 15-20 min here

^^^

[brisk ruin]

i know just legit i havent got any ive been in a save for like an hour killing and ive got nothing

cave*

[last gull]

Drops in Hallow caverns

[brisk ruin]

im in a hallow caverns

pickish blue

pinkish

[last gull]

You've got a 1/5 chance to get one, so you are in the wrong place, you aren't getting enough enemy spawns, or you have the worst goddamn luck that ever was

[brisk ruin]

i think its i was the worst luck known to man

[crimson swift]

ui

[last gull]

Do you know depth? Should be showing caverns, not just underground

[brisk ruin]

yeah im like half way like near hell

nice

[last gull]

rip

[brisk ruin]

lmao

yeah im trying to get true nights edge

[eternal nexus]

Hey terrarians, what's up?

uhm... you sure railing is the right word here

[brisk ruin]

i thought it was

[eternal nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/train-rail-roads-tunnel-let-me-in-gif-16473210

Railing in a nutshell XD

Reeling yes

XD

[brisk ruin]

then it doesent make sense

[eternal nexus]

When I saw railing... not so pure thoughts flooded my mind XD

[eternal nexus]

Wym it doesn't make sense?

Railing is essentially when you're ramming into something

[brisk ruin]

reeling me

[eternal nexus]

reeling, is when for example, the wof tentacles grabs you, and begins to pull you in

[brisk ruin]

would anyone spare me like 40 souls of light

[eternal nexus]

Terrasavr would like to know your location

Indeed 😌

Although, I don't think I've played Terraria for the year

Master Mode*

Damn... good times

[last gull]

Wish I could say I haven't touched game yet this year

[eternal nexus]

Why?
That would be bad :/

I agree

[last gull]

Game used to be better, have a number of qualms with it in its current state

[eternal nexus]

Oh?
Enlighten me

I haven't been able to play 1.4.4 that kinda way... probz only have like 30 minutes on it

ehhhh??

That's good

[last gull]

You know, I've been known to do that

I promise this isn't one of those times

XD

[eternal nexus]

No no, send your essay

[last gull]

I edit lines a lot, connotation is important

[eternal nexus]

[zenith pier]

gets automodded for sending "low effort text wall"

[last gull]

Info accessory colours are distracting and unnecessary. Same goes for bait or ammo indicators, since they're drawn the same way as held item.
Item stack to 10k is absurd and unreasonable (~250 item slots, Terrarian can carry 2.5M items, seems balanced)
Dodge works all the time except when it doesn't... You're not told when it doesn't, or when it does, only that it has when it did.
New liquid uncrafts things. Except when it doesn't. And sometimes it changes things into other things. Except when it doesn't. And sometimes it doesn't do anything.
Loadouts are highly exploitable for build-swapping, and allow players to hold 12 more armours, and 20 (24 in Exp, 28 in MM) more accessories.
Void vault change means players can either accidentally use items inside, or lose the capacity for it to automatically pick up overflow (exclusively one or the other)
Global autoswing option is just better than having it off for everything. I understand it is accessibility, but there's no reason to have it off, except to limit your own output.

[icy stream]

whoever gave me the cellphone, YOU LEFT A SHELLPHONE AT MY BASE, AND A LUNAR HOOK AND A DCU AND A ZENITH

[last gull]

gets automodded for sending "low effort text wall"
You joke, but I've been hit with 5m mute twice in the past month or two

"oh no, I was asked to give a comprehensive list of reasons why I dislike something, and now I get the mute for answering"

[zenith pier]

i've seen it happen before

[last gull]

There are a lot of people who disagree, I just want to do my part here in talking about the issues I see and the issues I have. Actually think I missed 2 there

[eternal nexus]

1. Colours are cool
2. I love 10k. Terrarian must be strongest character. And helps alot with mining blocks, given that you actually mine alot more per trip, than some other games
3. Well, someone better update the wiki on dodge
4. I think you mean shimmer... idk enough about it to say, but the uncertainity and discovery is part of the entertainment and mystery. Kinda like how you start the game with nothing but a "guide", and then gotta find your way by trying things
5. I love loadouts... You don't really get pvp anyway, so it's cool.
6. Void vault is an interesting one, both a + and a -. Can now have food, pots etc outside main inventory... mhm... Kinda iffy about this one fr. It's useful... until it isn't 🤣
7. Autoswing is much appreciated. Kinda weird, but still cool!

🤣

[last gull]

Yeah, I get that.
Colours are fine, but like.. add config to disable it holy f-. Walking around my world and it's just a rave on the right side of the screen.

[eternal nexus]

HHAHAHAHAHAHAH

I'd also like to see more menu options for the gui 🙋🏿‍♂️

[eternal nexus]

low-key wish I could go back in time 10 years, and experience Terraria from v1

Then immediately come back to present...
And have the inbetween conveniently filled out 🤣

[last gull]

Also, yes, I did mean liquid name, but I honestly hate how it's been added so much that I don't really like to call it by its name. Not really significant, perhaps, but it's just.. so much disappointment.
Like, sure, you can spin it as discovery. But like, there are some things that don't have a tangible explanation ingame, only really find out why it was changed because you look it up or find out in the community. For example, timers just.. can't be de-crafted, outright. They have crafting recipes (watch+wire@anvil), but they just don't work because ???
Similarly, recovery potions, exclusively copper tools, silver/tungsten bullets, and.. hellfire arrows. If it was blanket-applied to everything (ie: all potions, all tools, all ammunition) I could see it, but those very specifically are given different results, and for what reason? I know why, but does a new player know why? How would they know to expect that? etc.

[eternal nexus]

what reason is it?

[last gull]

They were all changed because players could get infinite money

That's literally it

[eternal nexus]

OHHHH...

eh?

🤔

😞

[last gull]

And rather than... changing the prices, changing which NPCs sell what, etc..
They make these things just not work

[eternal nexus]

wait...; I'm thinking...

[last gull]

And beyond that, they didn't even hit all of them

[eternal nexus]

is it cause they're materials sell for more than the object itself?

[last gull]

Yea

[eternal nexus]

ahhhhhhh

That's fair yk...

but...
it's a single player game...

why is infinite money a problem?

When you could just... yk...

Terrasavr or AIW...

[last gull]

I'm for balance, so I don't agree, but like, there is an argument to be had there, yes

[eternal nexus]

I mean... money is such a... valuable yet invaluable resource...

[last gull]

It might have taken a little bit, but honestly, I would 100% say it's more worthwhile to just fix sell values than to create blacklist

[eternal nexus]

wait.. no...
invaluable is still valuable 🤣

Money is such a valuable resource... until it isn't...

Unless you using coin gun...

You don't need money for reforges anymore... simply because shimmer + patience = fq the goblin

[last gull]

Yeah, anything that's crafted is just.. thrown into liquid for free modifiers

[eternal nexus]

I get that npcs sell certain items yes... cool

but the most expesnive items are just novely anyway...

[last gull]

Also, 78.1k or 7+81/100?

[zenith pier]

perhaps some people see aiw/terrasavr as cheating while glitching/exploiting is not? it's basically the same concept as why there are people wanting to trade rather than cheat items in

[last gull]

3.1415924

[eternal nexus]

No no, I get you.. that makes sense

[zenith pier]

🥧

[eternal nexus]

but just... money is such a strange one

I mean... honestly speaking, it's fair... wouldn't want to intentionally break a currency system

[last gull]

Yeah, it's fair to not want it broken, and I agree with the idea

I super diagree with the way it was patched

[eternal nexus]

adjusting prices is also a valid fix

[zenith pier]

does indeed become a problem when you try to reforge a boss drop

[last gull]

I mean, even just.. blanket-apply the rule would have been fine with me.
At least then there is an established exception that the player can expect will hold true.

[eternal nexus]

Ah yes... those exist and are unshimmerable... good point

[last gull]

It's the one-off nature that really gets me

[eternal nexus]

🤣

[last gull]

That was 1.4.3, I didn't include that in my sample dw

[eternal nexus]

Welp, i'm off to once again not play terraria, and do something else

it was fun chatting with you all once again

[last gull]

👍 Yea, nice to have a reasonable conversation about these lol

[zenith pier]

same 😎 i haven't played terraria in months

[last gull]

lol rip

[warm spindle]

my power went out when playing now it says (unknown error) then the world name on my charicter and i cant play on it how do i get this back im not getting any help in the help channel so :/

[last gull]

Check your player backup file

[warm spindle]

where

[zenith pier]

should be in documents > my games > terraria > players

[last gull]

Uh, depends. For windows I think C:/User/Documents/My Games/Terraria/Players

[zenith pier]

^

[last gull]

You'll see 2 files with your character's name. It helps to turn on file extensions for this (leave it on also), if you haven't turned that on yet.
PlayerName.plr and PlayerName.plr.bak
What this usually means is that the former is corrupted, so what you want to do is move that elsewhere (don't delete yet, just.. relocate it), and change the latter to PlayerName.plr
@warm spindle

[warm spindle]

now what

[warm spindle]

there is no plr.bak

[last gull]

m

[zenith pier]

f

[last gull]

Nothing that looks like this? (aside from icons, I wanted to see text contents of player file once and now Windows thinks they're all text files)

There's more.?

[zenith pier]

anything inside?

[last gull]

It's all unicode characters, nothing helpful unless you know how to parse

[warm spindle]

there is plr but not plr.bak

[warm spindle]

there is .bak for my other charicters tho

[zenith pier]

ah

[last gull]

Check recycle bin to see if it's been tossed there? Had an incident with that some years back

[warm spindle]

i dont thik it could be done by my power going out while playing so???

it is

hahaha

[last gull]

Terraria's a weird game

[warm spindle]

ok i put it back in

[last gull]

You'll probably want to check and make sure it's a valid file, file size shouldn't be 0kb or whatever

[warm spindle]

it is a good one

[last gull]

You're welcome to try that then.

[warm spindle]

it still says unknown error on the charicter

[last gull]

Did you try first suggestion of replacing current player file with the backup?

[warm spindle]

how

[zenith pier]

there is no backup ?

[last gull]

there is no backup ?
<#terraria-pc message>

how
<#terraria-pc message>

[zenith pier]

oh oh mb

oops wrong reply

discord should have editable replies :p

[warm spindle]

it stil didnt work

[last gull]

Discord should remove replies outright, default ping on and it's not easy to toggle off with keyboard

[zenith pier]

quote button was awesome

[last gull]

it stil didnt work
File might just be gone then, I don't know really what else to suggest

[warm spindle]

renameing it changed the status to a reload icon

[last gull]

a.. reload icon. I don't know what that looks like, tbh

[warm spindle]

i cant send it here but i can dm it to you

[last gull]

Yeah that's fine honestly. I'm kinda curious

Think I had the same happen to me once, just lost the player file though, it wasn't too heavily weighted for me, had just started the run not too long prior

(From @warm spindle)
If you hover over it what does it say?

[warm spindle]

what do you mean

[copper niche]

anyone on terraria?

[last gull]

If you move the cursor over the cycle or reload icon, does any text show up, and if so, what does it say?

[warm spindle]

it means sync pending

buttt it isnt syncing to sanything so

[last gull]

Yeah idk what that's about. Try closing/re-launching Terraria? Might just be on reading files

[warm spindle]

nope

[last gull]

Rip, yeah it might just be gone then. Gone through what I know of character problems.

[warm spindle]

well thats 100 hours gone

[last gull]

You can use an all-items server, world, or inventory editor to get items back, though unfortunately map will need to be re-discovered

Actually it might not, looks like Terraria keeps map contents in a separate folder now

[steel epoch]

so uh, weird question, but an update is still coming, right? even if it's just QoL?

[urban mountain]

yes someday

[last gull]

#terraria-spoilers

[urban mountain]

[last gull]

and #terraria-announcements

[steel epoch]

ah thanks, yeah I saw from the steam post

I just wonder if some suggestions or feedback are possible to be made, but I guess it's major enough and really tests the team's philosophy to the point that maybe I shouldn't even bother saying it

[last gull]

Eh, you can say it here anyway. Still possible, however unlikely, that someone picks it up.
Worst case, it might make its way into a mod

[steel epoch]

(and where the best channels are if I do want to say something, I guess. is it the forums?)

[last gull]

Forums good also

Admittedly probably better

[steel epoch]

it's one I've voiced on Twitter and Reddit actually, mentioning Redigit or Cenx in different occasions.. not that numerous though, only like three times at most, anything more is just me talking with the community and not aiming it towards the developer's notifs

basically, I still believe item drop rates need pity rolls / bad luck protection

[steel epoch]

fair enough, I'll think about it

[urban mountain]

nah man getting fucked by the RNG is essential terraria experience

[steel epoch]

to each their own, I suppose. I feel like drop rates exist for the reason of "after killing this many enemies, this thing should drop"

it might differ and not be a guaranteed amount and that element of surprise could be fun, but surely it's better to respect the player's time to give a Rod of Discord after killing 2000 Chaos Elementals when it's supposed to be 1/500

I am expecting some sort of incremental changes to the chance percentage until it actually drops a thing, then reset it

[last gull]

I could see it being a compounded chance rather than the same rng each time

[steel epoch]

at least after killing 1000 every kill should add 0.1% or 0.2% percent to the next one

I basically just have a grudge because this actually happened to me lol

Rod of Discord not dropping after 2 thousand

if I should have gotten something roughly 3-4 times and I still don't have it, something is wrong with the system, surely

but it's such a fundamental part of the game that I doubt they will add it

since it's not supposed to be a major update

maybe if we get a 1.5 this should be considered, but who am I joking, that's not gonna happen

fact is, they did change tackle box components to drop what the player needs, so they realize plain RNG systems can be bad

in philosophy, at least

[urban mountain]

No way they will up the drop rates

[last gull]

I might say that, for some percent drop chance, P, and some number of rolls, n, rng could be rolled at 1-((1-P)^n) chance of dropping some item.
This would effectively guarantee drops after some number of kills, while maintaining rng usage.
For example, RoD at 1/500 chance, killing the 500th Chaos Elemental would give a 63.25% chance of dropping the RoD (and reset counter)

[urban mountain]

since shimmer and CelebrationMk10 exists

[steel epoch]

I'm not saying to directly increase the rate, but yes, increase chances after a certain number of kills

[last gull]

Also yeah, liquid already reduces grinding for most important things ridiculous amounts

[steel epoch]

not causing any chance changes before 1000 kills in this scenario of 1 in 500 is still fine for me

[urban mountain]

And celebration Mk10 just outright gifts you all the rare drops

[steel epoch]

to be honest with you, I haven't played any special world seeds. I guess I should, but I feel like this is such a basic QoL feature that should exist in modern games

not that Terraria is the only one without it, of course

but seeing things like Slay the Spire and how potion chances or card rarity chances in there might change depending on how unlucky a player is; makes me appreciate those games a lot more than games that don't respect the player's time, I guess

so I feel like I should have said this at least somewhere

if I'm not lazy I'll post in the forums

[haughty ice]

hey nerds

[urban mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/actually-gif-25661133

[last gull]

I understand what you're going for, but I think a flat increase to rates for each enemy killed would be proportionally unfair.
I mean, you have Item A with 50% drop chance, and Item B with 5% drop chance, if you increase them both by 5%, Item A here gets the worse deal, since it increased by a factor of 1.1x, whereas Item B increased by 2x
Instead, using statistics to get the expected probability at that many tests (kills here) I think will be more in-line with goals, as well as still giving the player a fair shot.
Both methods here prevent the current issue of player having a very small chance for items to just never drop, I just think the latter is more fair (I guess I'm biased though, get an outside opinion)

[steel epoch]

that's also fair, I just wasn't math-savvy enough to understand whatever formula you made, but I'll trust that it sounds better

[last gull]

I edited message with an example P:

For example, RoD at 1/500 chance, killing the 500th Chaos Elemental would give a 63.25% chance of dropping the RoD (and reset counter)

[steel epoch]

oh

didn't see that

[last gull]

You could also graph function using desmos or your preferred graphing tool of choice

[steel epoch]

I am not familiar with what "^" means, is it squared or

maybe I should have paid more attention in class lol

since I am pretty sure I took statistics

[fringe moat]

^ means to the power of

[steel epoch]

oh

thanks!

[fringe moat]

Like 5^2 is just 5 squared or 5 to the power of 2

[steel epoch]

I just saw the rules again and they plainly stated suggestions 100% should be in the forums. oh well. maybe I'll try to make an account in a few days if I haven't already

clearly, they won't look here

but thanks for your input!

[last gull]

In #rules?

[steel epoch]

yep

[last gull]

Am I blind?

[steel epoch]

"do not ping"

number 10

do not ping officials

there's a little extra point about suggestions

since we would like our suggestions to be seen by the official team

it makes sense

[last gull]

Oh I see

Yeah I am blind

XD

[steel epoch]

I might copy paste your formula if I do make that forum post, and your examples and a lovely note of "Credit: Stardust#8145" or something

but that's assuming I'm actually making the post and not, suddenly getting distracted and never making it

which is more likely

[last gull]

Up to you. Function I used is a statistics equation which is used to determine the likelihood of an event over X tests or iterations.

Given probability P, and number of tests N, the chance that P is not true is (1-P)^N
"Inverting" the result gives the chance that it is true in N tests, as I recall.

[steel epoch]

ah, is that the confidence interval then? I never properly asked why a formula is the way it is or what it does

maybe it's something I knew but memoryholed

[last gull]

Confidence interval is a different thing.

[steel epoch]

oh

rip

[last gull]

Whyyy automod, I want to share maths to improve the people

[inland rampart]

someone please help me fishron is whopping my ass

need truffle worms and help

[civic swift]

all rare drops are items that are not intended to be obtained during a normal run, theyre nice if you happen to luck into them, or you can put in the effort to get them if you decide you really want them

[urban mountain]

Also those items are iconic because they are stupid rare

That's why everyone loves slime staff

[civic swift]

2000 kills without getting it is really unlucky, but I dont see any need to have dynamic drop chances

[last gull]

I see what you're saying, and to an extent I agree, but I also know where Vint here was coming from. It feels unrewarding when it's given as a 1/X chance, and after killing X of that enemy, killing 2X of that enemy, you've still not gotten it

And for a lot of players, the incentive just isn't worth it for these rare items.

[civic swift]

exactly

[last gull]

You can sit and farm for multiple real life hours, gettings hundreds of spawns per minute, and see very little material payoff.

[civic swift]

youre not intended to be incentivized for them

[warm spindle]

Nobody wants to play a fucking normal vanilla play through

I wish I was head a year ago

[urban mountain]

Except for the mad cash and the other non rare drops

[last gull]

yeh

[civic swift]

a normal vanilla run is all about lucking into certain drops

thats what the game is designed around

[last gull]

Sounds good, proposed solution still allows that

[civic swift]

hundreds of spawns per minute?

[last gull]

Pretty sure that's possible

I can go check, if not, take it as hyperbole

[civic swift]

the max spawnrate under normal conditions is an average of 1 enemy per second

[last gull]

Okay, so maybe a little far off, got it, I'll keep it in mind. I wasn't really aiming for a number just a descriptor, would you rather I said a few dozen spawns per minute?

[civic swift]

Sure, lol

[cold flame]

Is there a way to install magic storage mod without using tmodloader?

[last gull]

No

[loud burrow]

No

[last gull]

all rare drops are items that are not intended to be obtained during a normal run, theyre nice if you happen to luck into them, or you can put in the effort to get them if you decide you really want them
Anywho, I'm not here to fully defend their point; I agree to an extent that Terraria is a lot of rng, and that keeping rng-oriented drops preserves the game intent. I do like that rarer items like Ankh ingredients, the Rod of Discord, biome keys, etc. require that the player goes out of their way for them, because I think it would be lame if they were basically gimmes for every player.
It's just that as-is, Terraria doesn't really.. offer useful feedback for time or effort put in for farming or grinding for certain loot. I know that it's discouraging, farming for these things, and I know a lot of people just.. don't, fairly often. I think they make a fair point, maybe not to the extent that they wanted to, but the fact that it's possible to.. just be unlucky, I think, can limit the game's potential, and hinder the player's enjoyment.
I don't think farming enemies is enjoyable, and I'm pretty sure you, nor anyone else does either. I'm not for removing the chance entirely, but I do think that making a compramise that actively benefits people that are putting in effort for this stuff is a fair deal. It's not removing the grind, you still end up killing hundreds or thousands of enemies, it's more an assurance that it will happen.

[warm spindle]

nope

[civic swift]

indeed, it will happen, and cases like this are rare, after putting in the work it usually doesnt take much to get what you want

[urban mountain]

People getting the one item they are building a farm for while building the farm 💀

[last gull]

I mean, that's going to happen regardless

[urban mountain]

RoD is innevitable

[last gull]

Very true

[low crypt]

Are there any Russians?

[last gull]

#community-portal

[shadow pivot]

killed my first slime bro got clapped

first time playing

[mossy osprey]

what do yall think would be the best difficulty for a zero accessory run? I'm looking for a fun but still challenging run, which is why im hesitent to do leg

[fringe moat]

Masters always a good shout

[warm spindle]

Yo

[warm spindle]

Journey

[mossy osprey]

aint no way

[steel epoch]

"it will happen so just farm more"
well, sorry for caring about unlucky players including myself from a few years ago

[civic swift]

thonk

[warm spindle]

luck issue tbh

[steel epoch]

something like this is called "bad luck protection" because it only serves to increase the chances for those who persistently is not getting something

idk man, why did they make Tackle box components not pure RNG and instead tries to give you something you don't already have, that's also not necessary

seems to me like they realize how annoying trying to get something can be

and not getting it when you should

just a guess

if that's a change in the right direction, then surely this is the same thing, because I'm not asking for drop chances to be increased universally, but to increase after a certain amount of roll attempts

(and then reset once the player gets it to make it fair)

[warm spindle]

If you're incredibly unlucky and go well beyond the drop chance cheating it in is fine imo. Doubt they'll change drop chances up, so gotta make your own rules for it if you're unhappy with it lol

[quasi anvil]

@misty garden

[misty garden]

ik ☹️

i wasn’t active though

[quasi anvil]

Hmmmm

[steel epoch]

fair, I guess I could. oh well.

I already prefaced this whole thing with "this might challenge the team's philosophy"

I know the odds of them putting this system in is low, but still, would be nice

[vast thorn]

yo can someone help me get zenith

[warm spindle]

Yeah I agree with you I don't like complete rng being a factor on how I spend my time in a game either. So yeah... if rng is just a factor of wasting hours then i'd just cheat it in if it's just being incredibly unlucky

But I guess the dopamine hit is pretty good when you do eventually get it

[steel epoch]

funny how predatory gacha games are nicer with guaranteed pity rolls, but I guess that's because money is involved and they have to direct some good will towards the players

to be fair, the existence of Journey Mode and whatever special world seeds might make farming slightly easier than back then

still, rip rangers trying to get Uzi I guess

it's not like I'm against RNG entirely either, most of the games I play in recent years are roguelites

[warm spindle]

Uzi isn't even worth grinding tbf, it's cool when you get it but there are easier options to grind that are also better. But yeah I get what you mean ha

[steel epoch]

some RNG just feel good, others don't, and a big part of it is whether or not the RNG is static or dynamically changes based on what happens to the player

Enter the Gungeon certainly gives better items the lower you go down the floors, so that's another example of dynamic RNG

I guess games that aren't calling themselves roguelite are less likely to think about RNG

[last gull]

Hey, for what it's worth?
Went and asked tMod users about it; majority positive feedback, so NPC drop rng is going to get reworked in a mod..
Eventually

[steel epoch]

oh that's nice, thanks!

highly likely I'll play tmod someday anyways

so that's good to hear

[steel epoch]

also fair, idk I'm not a ranger main, my brother is and he experienced something similar

farming for hours and not seeing a thing, mainly because the enemy is rare rather than an issue with the chance itself

might be a combination of both

[last gull]

Mod devs have had a lot of issues with some of Terraria's content for a while, and while I agreed mostly, I figured 1.4.4 was the update that really made me think, "huh, yeah this isn't improving," so I've set to work, you know, improving game mechanics.

[steel epoch]

that's fairly sensible, at some point major changes are 100% just not happening, they've made a great game and nurtured it for.. 10 years?

the torch really had to be passed to modders, so great job

[last gull]

11 or so yea

Actually 12 now

Or, nearing 12

Whatever

[quasi anvil]

Bro

Does waterleaf in planterbox needs rain?

[fringe moat]

When it is raining they will bloom yes
They don’t need to be exposed to it

[icy stream]

if I want to just give something out, am i allowed to? (ex. "if you want a free ___ DM me")

[quasi anvil]

Ah great

Fuck this shit

[steel epoch]

I mean, at least you can still put walls behind them

[quasi anvil]

I don't have a single seed and I NEED RAIN FOR EM TOO BLOOM HUH

[quasi anvil]

In pc?

[icy stream]

yea

[fringe moat]

You can
It’s a mostly useless thing since stuff like AIWs and Terrasavr

[fringe moat]

What

[quasi anvil]

I dont think anyone wants

People can easily cheat and hack

[steel epoch]

what you said, that it doesn't need to be directly exposed to rain lol

[icy stream]

i dont know what either of those are, buut cool :D

[quasi anvil]

It's just that people don't cheat

[icy stream]

thats inventory editors isnt it?

[quasi anvil]

Cuz playing without cheating is good

[fringe moat]

Yeah so you can put it anything around it not just walls behind

[steel epoch]

it's not as annoying as it is, but it is something having to wait for rain til it blooms

[quasi anvil]

Tons upon tons of hacks are there too

[quasi anvil]

And without hacks u can go to an all item server

[icy stream]

true, some guy gave me a zenith pre hardmode, i aint complainin tho

[steel epoch]

this is why I suggested droprate changes lol

[quasi anvil]

And snag up the items

[icy stream]

o

[quasi anvil]

I never cheat neither do i world hop cuz in my sense I consider it cheating

[fringe moat]

Hacks implies you’re hacking something which isn’t really something that happens outside of multiplayer servers

[steel epoch]

but yeah I've used TEdit in the past along with terrasavr, not always tho

[fringe moat]

Inventory editors just edit file data which is not hacking

[steel epoch]

most times I try to get stuff legit

[quasi anvil]

I use tedit for fun world playthroughs

[quasi anvil]

Why "most"

[icy stream]

"yes its f*cking safe"
bro i get that way too much, I tell someone to do something that ive done a million times before
"wIlL tHiS gIvE mE a ViRuS?"

[steel epoch]

because when you've been killing 2000 chaos elementals and don't get that 1-in-500 rod of discord, what are you supposed to do?

farm more like a mad man?

surely not

[quasi anvil]

I do that

I farm more

[steel epoch]

well, good for you

[fringe moat]

I’m active in #terraria-help where we have tens of images like these for either dumb questions or repeatedly asked stuff

[quasi anvil]

I simply don't cheat

[fringe moat]

What’s worse is when people read that and still ask is it safe

[icy stream]

lmao, alright

[icy stream]

true

[frail walrus]

WHAT

[quasi anvil]

Btw

Qtr hacker is the best hack in case u want one