ah jes thats the one i found
#dusk-modding
honest stag
JACK is superior in all regards
i would make a very rude joke here but i will not
weak prawn
haha whats the joke? that it some diehard tool?
bold orbit
The joke is that vriska is in denial
weak prawn
^^'
bold orbit
if it's soo good why dont you make the ultrakill track with it
I'm not making it with tb thats for sure
If tb is so good why did u make all the dusk tracks with blender huh
honest stag
oh i could do that
bold orbit
Why didn't you though
honest stag
because then trey would go nuts
bold orbit
:)
weak prawn
casual <#586508960128040961> days
^^' jackcels has so much double meaning potential lol
thanks for the tips
btw
i wrote it down
honest stag
my best maps are Trespasser, Tomb terror (latest) and Insomnia (map in one of the map jams. 2021 i think?) if i may shill my work
weak prawn
i liked tomb terror
honest stag
had any trouble with the puzzle?
weak prawn
have to finish it but reminds me of playing wolfenstein et maps which are egyptian themed
weak prawn
had any trouble with the puzzle?
haha yes
i sorta got it but getting back after button hit i didnt
(and u can always shill ur work lol)
and yes insomnia is 2021
weak prawn
trespasser rocks
honest stag
thanks man
weak prawn
bad hospital is to scawy :'3
weak prawn
thanks man
u made the musc too?
honest stag
no
weak prawn
works very well though
crisp raven
CRIADUS deniers belong on the cross
silent gale
Can't wait to dusk around in the software dusk kit
bold orbit
Software duskvelopment kit
high magnet
We are so back, duskbros
bold orbit
The STATE of DUSK-MODS
crisp raven
The Bunker with HD textures and models here we go
sharp nest
wait did the SDK drop?
honest stag
no but it will on dec 11th
eternal spear
hope i dont have to relearn everything
bold orbit
But for real this time
crisp raven
Can't wait for this channel to be flooded with people and Vriska will have to help all of them while I watch from the sidelines
honest stag
christmas 2021 bros
weak prawn
does anyone know how to finish repent map?
killed all enemies but didnt discover all secrets and im at a part where it looks like its the end of level but there is no trigger
nvm i figured it out
great map
bold orbit
👍
void crescent
how do I create light flares in TB?
crisp raven
Ooohh like on keys and stuff
ancient depot
I regret not implementing func_ladder properly originally lol
Because some maps will break in the new SDK now that it works as it should
(func_ladder is a trigger, so the brush it's attached to is not supposed to block the player or be visible, so maps like say, Enclave, which have visible func_ladder brushes, will have those ladders be invisible and harder to climb because you can walk through them)
ancient depot
as long as you follow how half-life does ladders, your map'll be fine
honest stag
i made the ladder out of brushes and then applied an invisible func ladder over it
ancient depot
yep, that's the correct way
honest stag
hell yeah
void crescent
Im not sure what you mean by light flares
the little strong, almost volumetric, aura around stuff like keys and some models
honest stag
that is the light flare settings in dusk yea
void crescent
how do I make one in TB?
honest stag
you dont, it's a graphical setting like motion blur
honest stag
just put something that gives off a light flare where you want one to be
but take note if a player has that setting disabled they will not see it
coins, small health pickups for example have that glint
tight hedge
yep, that's the correct way
I only made ladder brushes
eternal spear
so once the sdk updates i'll have to make two brushes and put the func_ladder ontop of the normal one??
eternal spear
i'll just refrain from using func_ladders for now
honest stag
why lol
eternal spear
good question actually
honest stag
just do it the way it will be used later, it works now and will in the future
eternal spear
i think i'm just afraid of somehow fucking it up
tight hedge
just update the map then
ancient depot
so once the sdk updates i'll have to make two brushes and put the func_ladder on...
yes, but that's really what you should do anyway
it works in the old sdk and new sdk
eternal spear
very stupid question probably but is there a way to make a brush invisible to the player
assuming i just have to apply a texture for that
crisp raven
(`func_ladder` is a trigger, so the brush it's attached to is not supposed to bl...
Dude NOOOOOOO
ancient depot
In the new SDK, triggers are automatically made invisible.
In the old SDK, if something uses a trigger texture it is made invisible.
crisp raven
Is there anything else that will break going into the new SDK?
eternal spear
trigger texture?
ancient depot
A texture with a specific name, let me check which ones the old SDK recognizes
ancient depot
Is there anything else that will break going into the new SDK?
ladders are the main one that comes to mind and that's only for ladders that didn't follow goldsrc convention
eternal spear
so once the sdk comes around ladders should look like this?
gore bricks being the actual ladder in this case
ancient depot
trigger texture?
Anything using a texture with these names will be invisible in the old SDK:
*waterskip
aaatrigger
skip
clip
ancient depot
so once the sdk comes around ladders should look like this?
Correct
that will work in the old SDK too
eternal spear
Anything using a texture with these names will be invisible in the old SDK:
`*wa...
can't find any of these in dusk_transparent.wad
assuming there's another wad for these?
or am i being stupid
ancient depot
They are probably in another wad
dusk_transparent is a community wad that only contains dusk textures afaik
no tool textures
crisp raven
can't find any of these in dusk_transparent.wad
Most are in here
eternal spear
thanks
crisp raven
Oh and dusk_transparent.wad is missing this pipe texture
Also this tree texture has better transparency that the one is that wad
This has the proper textures for key door indicators (the coloured metal things) but the blue is off because the Quake palette is small and weird
eternal spear
am i still missing anything?
crisp raven
Dont forget to use this one :3
eternal spear
incredible
eternal spear
what makes it so essential?
honest stag
You need it to
ancient monolith
It's essential, get it.
lost blade
hmmmm.... im trying to change the attack script's weapon fire speed using a mod but FindObjectOfType<AttackScript>().firespeed = 3 is outputting a bunch of errors in melonloader
"cannot load file or assembly assembly-unityscript"
honest stag
actually that reminds me
@ancient depot will we have that autofgd maker thing with the update? or an official fgd
eternal spear
fgd?
honest stag
entity defintion file
the thing you got from pins and installed into tb to see dusk enemies and props
it's currently cutsom-made and would need to be updated with the new sdk i assume
desert basalt
huh
void crypt
Dusk fortress
ancient depot
<@124710273368981505> will we have that autofgd maker thing with the update? or ...
autofgd maker was abandoned because it placed restrictions on how I could implement entities internally, but I may revisit it in the future when we do scripting
the SDK should ship with an official hand-rolled FGD though
sick comet
i'm trying to make a custom map but whenever i run the map in dusk it is completely pitch black, despite having placed lights in trenchboom. does anyone have any advice? i'm not sure wether i'm doing something wrong in trenchboom or if its to do with loading the map in dusk.
honest stag
i'm trying to make a custom map but whenever i run the map in dusk it is complet...
Can you send me both your .map and .bsp?
@sick comet
haughty slate
can I ask a question?
Is there any way for a map to NOT need the quake palette file
and just run off the BSP?
thanks
honest stag
im pretty positive we're palette limited for now but im not sure
honest stag
Which ones are yours? I've played pretty much every one on the website
haughty slate
I went to even contact White Mesa's author on GameBanana for permission smh
haughty slate
I wanna make a new map
with all the experience I guess I gained in the past 2 years
I moved games a lot
My dusk maps are pretty amateurish cause its the first stuff I ever made
honest stag
hey power to you, would be glad to see more new blood pour into the mapping scene
ancient depot
Is there any way for a map to NOT need the quake palette file
Use WAD3 (not WAD2) files for your textures, and don't embed them in your BSP (there's an option to strip them in ericw-tools)
haughty slate
Thanks!
haughty slate
Use WAD3 (not WAD2) files for your textures, and don't embed them in your BSP (t...
is there a console command in the tools that disables embeding?
honest stag
we could do that all along
ancient depot
is there a console command in the tools that disables embeding?
yup, that's what I meant
honest stag
haughty slate
Can I ask what is it?
ancient depot
-notex for qbsp
haughty slate
thanks!
very kind of you
Now I need Wally to convert my textures
Oh waiiiiiit
another question
Wad3 means Halflife textures?
can I just use Halflife textures?
haughty slate
Got it thats great!
I have a lot of of those
this is the quake101 WAD, converted in WAD3
if anyone needs it
I really like Quake textures for Dusk maps
void crescent
are there any other monster's properties apart from health, that I can change in TB?
honest stag
you can change boss names
and i THINK, might be totally wrong, but i think someone a long time ago lightsource parented enemies to have them change their color
like make them hued red and shit
ancient depot
health, bossname and lightproxy are the properties recognized for dusk entities
honest stag
yes that
void crescent
thank you :3
weak prawn
is it normal that the winter(?) 2021 jam has like no music?
haughty slate
is it normal that the winter(?) 2021 jam has like no music?
what map?
all fo them?
void crescent
what strings do I use in lightproxy
weak prawn
first 2
honest stag
are you sure oyu dont have music at 0?
haughty slate
`health`, `bossname` and `lightproxy` are the properties recognized for dusk ent...
hey sorry where's the dusk.fgd?
honest stag
altho i think a couple actually dont have it
weak prawn
nope
honest stag
wait, my map?
void crescent
`health`, `bossname` and `lightproxy` are the properties recognized for dusk ent...
how do I use lightproxy?
weak prawn
wait, my map?
its the pack u contributed but not sure if ur map was alredy on
honest stag
lightproxy property is placed on an entity the color of which you want changed, and the value of it is the targetname of an entity that is colored with the light you want
void crescent
what entities can be the target of such?
honest stag
oh a lot of things
like func_doors! props and objects may work but im not sure as i havent tested myself
but func_doors have been the coolest to pair it up with
void crescent
why so?
honest stag
because doors can move
void crescent
so rgb bosses?
ancient depot
how do I use lightproxy?
Basically you put an entity in your map near a light and give it a name
Then if you set lightproxy to that name on another entity, it'll be lit as if it were the lightproxy entity
void crescent
targetname right?
ancient depot
yeah
void crescent
k
hopefully more enemy customizability comes with the sdk
but scripting is gonna be a thing right?
ancient depot
scripting won't be a thing with the new update
weak prawn
its like dark trippy collections
ancient depot
it's in future plans because scripting needs to be designed alongside multiplayer
if we expose scripting in a way that doesn't work well with multiplayer, then the experience will suck
void crescent
ah k
weak prawn
ye i loaded another map and there is musci
void crescent
but more enemy customizability right?
weak prawn
the folder is called sinners_trial where music didnt work
ancient depot
there is more customizability yeah
it'll have basically the same amount of customizability that the base game has
since the campaign needs to use those entities too
basically things like health, speed, attack range, attack type, etc
ancient depot
there is a game mode property for worldspawn which defines the default game mode for the level
a map can support both modes though, and there's special triggers for making certain doors, walls, etc only spawn in a certain mode
void crescent
yes, but like the enemies, how do we choose what enemies spawn when and where?
ancient depot
spawner entities
void crescent
ah k thx
eternal spear
are things like enemy pathing and aggroing them through triggers planned or are those things simply not possible to implement?
ancient depot
pathing no for now, aggroing yes
void crescent
what about enemy drops?
ancient depot
that's customizable too because it's functionality the base game has
rough smelt
is there possible to me to get dusk world Fussilade map as a model? (fbx, blend, etc.)
void crescent
How do you make skyboxes again? Like can they be normal or func brushes?
honest stag
make a celling brush that has a texture the name of which beings with "sky"
oh hold up
you mean like
replacing the default dusk skybox?
cuz that's different
void crescent
i just wanna add a skybox so I can have sunlight
honest stag
you need sky brushes - basically a block in the sky that works as a celling with a texture that has to start with sky
to have that brush emit sunglight - have a light entity with a property _sun set to 1, and make it target any info_null entity
all the properties of your light entity will be what the sky brushes emit in the same direction as the sun is targeting the info_null
but if you want your map to have both sunlight and avoid awful pitch black shadows, you also need _sunlight2 as a property on worldspawn
the value of it will determine it's intensity (works the same as light intensity on normal lights), and _sunlight2_color does exactly what you think it does, changes the color of this ambient light
illustration of how sky brushes emit sunlight
honest stag
no
the skybox texture change is an entirely different subject
what i described just adds sunlight
void crescent
k, 1st I wanna change the skybox
honest stag
you need to add some worldspawn properties (worldspawn is what u see when u dont have anything selected)
a total of 6, for each side of the sky cube
and add the side textures to your mod folder
so it would look like this
"sky_up" "textures/skybox_top.png"
"sky_down" "textures/skybox_stars_bottom.png"
"sky_left" "textures/skybox_left.png"
"sky_right" "textures/skybox_right.png"
"sky_back" "textures/skybox_stars_back.png"
"sky_front" "textures/skybox_stars_front.png"
the file names are anything obviously
imma show how the folder looks
here's an example
also
im pretty sure left and right are actually swapped
you'll see for yourself and adjust as needed
void crescent
so I need to get the png files?
honest stag
there are skybox sides already present in the dusk folder if that's what you'rel ooking for
you can just reference those
so for example
you'd have smth like this
"sky_back" "textures/skybox_sunset_back.png"
but for each side
no need to move any pngs if you're just going to use the already-present dusk skyboxes
honest stag
no
do not
one sec
all sky brushes turn invisible when you compile them and boot them in dusk
they should act essentially as extensions of your rooms, like walls and cellings of an outside area
imagine you make a room, but the top half is sky brushes instead of walls and shit
when you encase your map in a fashion similar to what you've shown, you lose all the cool benefits of sealing your map
void crescent
what about big open maps?
honest stag
then you just have a big room with a tall celling
the reason i had to raise it so high is this building
otherwise i could lower it like this
void crescent
hmm, are they actual ceilings that the player can hit?
honest stag
no, but if you touch them they act like water brushes for some reason for now
ancient depot
that is how they behave in goldsrc too, I believe
honest stag
scaling of what
void crescent
the textures of the skybox brushes
ancient depot
nope
ancient depot
they're like holes that lead directly to the sky
void crescent
so i have the x_f texture
the x_r is to the right of the x_f?
x being skybox_blabla
eternal spear
when you encase your map in a fashion similar to what you've shown, you lose all...
cool benefits?
void crescent
yea, what do I gain by suffering?
rough smelt
is there possible to me to get dusk world Fussilade map as a model? (fbx, blend,...
someone answer pls
honest stag
if your map is sealed, every single face that is not visible to the player (for example, the bottom side of a floor that touches the void) is cut from lightmapping making the process faster
It also runs better
As a result
void crescent
so just optimization?
honest stag
We noticed that non sealed maps are prone to rare, but annoying bugs where entities would spawn below ground
void crescent
ah k
well unless one day I make a campaign map
im just making a box around the map, source style
honest stag
im just making a box around the map, source style
I mean thats not exactly ideal in source either iirc
See the thing is
That TECHNICALLY seals your map
But you once again lose all benefits of a properly and neatly sealed map
Actually wait a source map will just refuse to compile if there's a leak
am i remembering right
eternal spear
so i should try to make my sky brushes take up as little space as possible?
void crescent
am i remembering right
yup
void crescent
ok, just to make sure
sky textures have to be correctly (and relatively) positioned to each other
facing forward is the forward texture and behind is the back texture?
crisp raven
the map is just on fullbright now
Possible you have light set high. Once you want to light your map the light field should be left empty. It just makes the entire map a flat brightness. It could also just be that you set sunlight super high
crisp raven
If your map is going to be floating (like an island in the sky sort of deal) I would also add _sunlight3. It makes sun come up from the bottom of the skybox
crisp raven
you need to add some worldspawn properties (worldspawn is what u see when u dont...
It should be noted that right and left are swapped for some reason
So make sure you set the right texture to the left and vice versa
The others are fine however
eternal spear
which part of the skybox?
void crescent
its just the default onr
eternal spear
are you sure you spelled the name correctly?
the directory?
did you maybe forget the .png by any chance? (i did)
void crescent
uh k
honest stag
i'll investigate
void crescent
honest stag
one sec
void crescent
its probably just some stupid mistake
honest stag
this is not how it should look
here's an example
one moment
in your case, that would be
"sky_back" "textures/skybox_sunset_back.png"
etc
void crescent
so is it the name of textures of .wad or the in game files?
void crescent
but the in game files are called skybox_x_left/right/front/etc?
void crescent
yep
honest stag
ok, i'll try to run it down one more time
the way you change the skybox in dusk has nothing to do with wads or things you place inside the map
you will not see it change in trenchbroom, and it doesnt matter whether you have sky brushes or how they're textured
the skybox in dusk is a cube with textures on each of the sides, and the way to change it is by referencing a .png file texture for each of those sides individually
the game will look inside all the enabled mod folders for the things you reference, and the "dusk" folder in your mods already has some .pngs for skyboxes neatly cut up into parts for you to use
so, we're going to use those and let the game know we want each side of the cube textured with each individual of those .png files
for example, you want to use the red/orange skybox. you go into the dusk/textures folder and look for the images that you need
found them! they're called skybox_sunset_back.png / skybox_sunset_front.png and so on
now we need to make the game know they're the ones we need, and to do that we add properties to worldspawn, and assign each texture to each side, by referencing the folder they're in and the full file name
ancient depot
Yeah skyboxes are external textures, unrelated to the BSP itself
void crescent
thats what I did? What went wrong
honest stag
you didnt specify the folder they were in, and didnt specify the full file name
compare
void crescent
also someone should pin that for other newcomers
ancient depot
There is a different kind of skybox texture that does get embedded in the BSP/WAD, and that's the scrolling Quake sky textures:
The old SDK doesn't support these though
honest stag
void crescent
oh, the directory
void crescent
ah, I didnt know I had to specify the folder
ancient depot
Yeah it's a path relative to your mod folder
You can technically put the textures anywhere you want
the textures folder is just the standard
honest stag
yea
if you, for example, have a bunch of custom tetxures just laying in your mod folder, then you might not need to specify the folder path
like, for example, if i have my skybox tex just laying in my mod folder and not in "textures" then i can specify them outright without the "textures" folder
ancient depot
Yup, it's disorganized but it works
A mod folder is largely just a bag of assets, the SDK (usually) doesn't care where the files are inside it
The main exceptions being .wad files (must be in the root), maps (must be in the maps folder) and the palette file (must be in the root, and in the new SDK, it must be in a gfx folder)
honest stag
not my first rodeo
void crescent
the way you change the skybox in dusk has nothing to do with wads or things you ...
this should be pinned
honest stag
there are shorter explanations out there lol
ancient depot
There's proper documentation in the works for this stuff
crisp raven
Vriska you should save these responses for the next time you need them
eternal spear
why not just copy the message links?
honest stag
because that feature sux and on mobile it makes u jump to the og message
which is inconvinient
eternal spear
fair
muted glacier
Yeah especially when that OG message was 3 years ago
tight hedge
wait so @ancient depot is the new SDK gonna support dynamic lighting better? I assume so since we're getting light styles and all that but it would be nice to know if I can put candles in my level now
ancient depot
light styles work and you can place dynamic lights
tight hedge
how much is it gonna affect performance?
Like rn its almost impossible to use candles
in a full level
ancient depot
No real change there, that's a Unity thing
When vis is implemented at some point that might improve
void crescent
can I copypaste items/brushes from a .map to another .map?
tight hedge
yea
honest stag
yes
tight hedge
thats how I transfer my objects
I reuse things for consistency
I recommend making your own generalized custom objects and transferring them over every map
adds a lot of continuity and character
honest stag
i have a map with a bunch of shit i made from various maps
and just copypaste it
may have lost it though
void crescent
it doesnt keep the textures in place :c
void crescent
theyre there, just not correctly scaled and offset
honest stag
here's my prop map. outdated horribly but i reuse a lot of stuff from there
void crescent
Sterlok
oh
If I dont group them the textures stay in place
Lmfao
I made the average american school bus
but it was supposed to be this thing
Im keeping the normal bus now tho
best boi :3 (old picture)
honest stag
it looks cool but be careful, dont fall into the trap of making a single prop for too long
it increases map dev time exponentially
void crescent
ive finished the truck quite a few days ago
honest stag
and how long did it take ya
void crescent
uhm 2 days
mostly just experimenting with textures
heres the png if someone ever makes a better bus
eternal spear
currently glueing together a bunch of rooms so i can at least say that i made a full complete playable dusk map at some point
WILL try to make something that actually looks pretty next year
honest stag
the most valuable thing you can have to improve your mapping is players
make stuff that is short, yet simple
get people to play it
it's the most fun part
eternal spear
my ultimate goal is probably an 8 minute long level tbh
honest stag
it doesnt take long to make a map if you're really getting into it. took me i think less than a week to makre tresspasser
minutes arent the best time spent counter
eternal spear
my ultimate goal is probably an 8 minute long level tbh
VERY long time away for me to even attempt that though
eternal spear
minutes arent the best time spent counter
yea true
cant really think of a better one at the top of my head though
honest stag
try to aim for "longer" or "shorter" when it comes to describing map size
eternal spear
you need sky brushes - basically a block in the sky that works as a celling with...
got all of this figured out and working flawlessly
just need to memorise it now
changing the skybox texture went smoothly
i daresay i might be actually learning something for once
echo escarp
Can't wait for a dusk horror mod scene to emerge.
eternal spear
the ability to aggro wendigos using triggers is gonna be huge
echo escarp
Really hope that the dusk mod scene flourishes after the sdk.
I could imagine a dusk mod that is a hunting game with deer and stuff
Brutal Dusk?
What is the file that dusk uses? Is there anything comparable to a wad file but for dusk?
honest stag
the ability to aggro wendigos using triggers is gonna be huge
i obviously dont know what you're trying to do, but cant that similar effect be achieved with simply teleporting them in
eternal spear
putting one around a corner and using a trigger is a lot less work than teleporting one in
haughty slate
hey hi
how do I uh
setup trenchboom to run Wad3 textures
do I need to set the game as generic?
crisp raven
theyre there, just not correctly ~~scaled~~ and offset
Make sure you activate texture lock when copy pasting things. That way the textures will stay in their original alignment
last talon
where's the dusk shortbus at?
void crescent
is that nuketown
Yas💅
ancient depot
Fixed something that's annoyed me for the longest goddamn time. Now you'll only "leap" out of water if you actually exit above it (so now you can't be trapped inside bodies of water that you can only exit from the bottom)
honest stag
EYYYYYYYYY
that means exiting water from the side wont make you jump up
like from sewer pipes
ancient depot
That still happens, but I can fix that too
I'm just trying to avoid behavioral changes from the original game unless they're softlocks like this
crisp raven
Fixed something that's annoyed me for the longest goddamn time. Now you'll only ...
God I hate when that happens
tight hedge
Wouldnt it be sick if the SDK had like a ”map of the month” rotation thing or something
ancient depot
The workshop's popular mods category would probably cover that
tight hedge
True
Would just be cool if it were in game
Im legit hyped to just add fog to my maps
Im a simple man
honest stag
Wouldnt it be sick if the SDK had like a ”map of the month” rotation thing or so...
we'd go months without a contender lol
for now....
ancient depot
z_testbox.bsp will be the top map forever
blissful lion
we'd go months without a contender lol
aaand top map this month is .... MAPTEST
sorry there was nothing else this month
whats the info about fog now?
gritty forge
cant wait for sdk update
void crescent
we'd go months without a contender lol
end_nuketown_rc2
btw whats the best transparent glass texture?
crisp raven
btw whats the best transparent glass texture?
For glass I use the vanilla dusk glass texture then make it a func_breakable and give it these settings. renderamt changes the transparency of a brush if rendermode is set to 2 (2 is for textures) The range for renderamt is 0 to 255 with 0 being completely invisible in this case
void crescent
For glass I use the vanilla dusk glass texture then make it a func_breakable and...
thx
crisp raven
The happy nice skybox that you almost never see 
honest stag
yea actually that is a skybox you dont see often
IT'S USED IN TRESPASSER THO 😎
good geometry man
cant wait to see the map in full
hardy torrent
Hey could anyone link me to some info on how to replace sounds with mods?
void crescent
these stairs were a fricking nightmare to make
like half an hour for the geometry of some stairs
»:c
(leathernecks are to help with scaling)
crisp raven
Theres a snap to grid hotkey
ctrl+shift+alt+V
crisp raven
for this I'd try and extrude the shorter ones and then cut along the face of the one sticking out. Should make everything line up
Idk if that makes sense without any visualization
bold orbit
Ay holup
crisp raven
Baller
void crescent
small changes to garage
lost blade
myhouse in dusk
muted glacier
myhouse in dusk
Already something I tried to put the effort into but got burned out on. Something like that I feel like is too unique and personal to copy 1 for 1.
crisp raven
Original stuff is cooler anyways
lost blade
Already something I tried to put the effort into but got burned out on. Somethin...
aw
fair
i once saw a recreation of myhouse in meet your maker
echo escarp
I have this idea for a level named "The Tower of Babel". Its basically just a level where you ascend the stories of the babel.
unkempt elbow
thought it would be a replica of a doom level
void crescent
how do I make it so skybox brushes dont get hit by bullets and stuff
also, how do I make it so there are no extremely dark spots, like under the roof
last talon
u have to go fullbright 😎
honest stag
also, how do I make it so there are no extremely dark spots, like under the roof
are you using _sunlight2?
and are you using bounce lights
void crescent
Yep
echo escarp
thought it would be a replica of a doom level
?
eternal spear
and are you using bounce lights
what's that?
honest stag
it's a setting on light.exe to simulate light bouncing off of walls
like rtx, but calculated once and baked into the map
often prevents these dark areas
plush hemlock
that's not so retro tho.......
honest stag
Here's how it looks
no bounce lights
bounce enabled
it's subtle, but lights spreads much better
void crescent
and are you using bounce lights
nope?
honest stag
then try using bounce lights
void crescent
how do I do that
honest stag
add -bounce to light.exe compile settings
it will increase lightmapping time
but it's worth it imo
void crescent
yes
honest stag
bounce lights are great
i use them in all my maps
the extra lightmapping time is worth it
crisp raven
Could always just make your maps fullbright while you're building the geometry
void crescent
I guess
stoic venture
Does anyone know if you can play the dusk custom maps on Mac
muted glacier
i once saw a recreation of myhouse in meet your maker
How did that work? Was it just the shape of the house? Sounds cool. I love MYM
lost blade
How did that work? Was it just the shape of the house? Sounds cool. I love MYM
just go check out the map
crisp raven
Update drops in one month!!
honest stag
YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
unkempt elbow
Update drops in one month!!
can't wait to see a high poly jakob
scenic bluff
just go check out the map
why it looks way too RTX, i like it
lost blade
why it looks way too RTX, i like it
well yeah MYM is a pretty modern-ish game
last talon
blissful lion
lol
void crescent
Wtf lmao
crisp raven
and it's this
It's probably memester
bold orbit
Never 4get
high magnet
I want to 4get
void crescent
#general-modding lore??
eternal spear
let me find the thing vriska posted
misremembering it seems
watching things unfold in that chat in front of my eyes was funny while it lasted
i think the guy rejoined again lol
bold orbit
He's still in that minecraft model editor discord
void crescent
https://tenor.com/view/call-of-duty-cod-zombies-call-of-duty-zombies-richtofen-gif-25262455 yall trying to explain something to memester
cunning oar
a
languid temple
Playing the American nightmare
Hey anyone remember the map where you jump in the pool and when you come out the whole level is snowy, enemies everywhurr
crisp raven
Hey anyone remember the map where you jump in the pool and when you come out the...
https://mod.io/g/dusk/m/old-waters I believe it is this one
crisp raven
Playing the American nightmare
If you have any criticisms I would like to hear them
languid temple
If you have any criticisms I would like to hear them
I've played lots of your maps, great work. I didn't have any problems. Took me many tries to get through.
I've wanted to make stuff myself, but too impatient to fully learn. Thanks for helping keep it alive
crisp raven
👍
void crescent
how does the "music" setting in the worldspawn entity work?
ancient depot
It's a mod relative path to a sound file
void crescent
like skybox textures?
ancient depot
Yup
void crescent
any way to make music loop?
ancient depot
It should already loop
void crescent
oh thank God
And how about like looping a "playlist"
that would require triggers tho
ancient depot
Not supported in the old SDK
void crescent
new feature?
ancient depot
You could maybe use a timed trigger and a trigger_changemusic in the old sdk
In the new SDK there are music playlist entities (mostly for endless maps)
void crescent
what filetypes can it read?
ancient depot
in the old SDK I think it was flac, ogg and wav
crisp raven
Is the save system less cursed in the new SDK?
void crescent
Yellow house basic geometry done!
twas tough but I think it came out really good in the end!
muted glacier
What version of Nuketown are you doing? OG or 2024?
void crescent
What version of Nuketown are you doing? OG or 2024?
OG
its not 1:1, cus you know, very diferent genres
actually @honest stag here it is with max lighting settings and all the other files
(ignore the music)
muted glacier
Yeah you kinda have to make maps scaled alittle bigger in dusk because of the movement/movement speed.
void crescent
how many units does duskdude jump?
dapper granite
ancient depot
If anyone doesn't own Half-Life on Steam somehow, it is currently free
honest stag
Oh right the half life birthday is soon
void crescent
Im making a secret room and I want something in it
Anyone got any ideas
Literally anything
void crescent
If anyone doesn't own Half-Life on Steam somehow, it is currently free
its not?
ancient monolith
Im making a secret room and I want something in it
got any drawings you made as a kid?
void crescent
got any drawings you made as a kid?
not really...Most are in an attic in a house I havent been in years
and most are sketches
I HATE painting
ancient monolith
Time fot a visit!
void crescent
I dont even know if they're there
Actually what about an hidden song?
Cod Zombies style
void crescent
Weird
ancient depot
void crescent
Maybe it was a test for the bday
ancient depot
could be
ancient monolith
it was broken, you couldnt claim
high magnet
If anyone doesn't own Half-Life on Steam somehow, it is currently free
If anyone doesn't own Half-Life on Steam somehow, I'd recommend Half Life Source instead. Even if it isn't free, it being the superior version makes it worth it. And tbh it's not that expensive
ancient monolith
If anyone doesn't own Half-Life on Steam somehow, I'd recommend Half Life Source...
Well if you want the superiour version, get Black Mesa
silk slate
:dread:
alpine depot
HLS fans rise up 💪
muted glacier
Well if you want the superiour version, get Black Mesa
I'm gonna be that guy. I didn't hate Black Mesa 🤷
ancient monolith
Why would anyone hate it?
silent gale
If anyone doesn't own Half-Life on Steam somehow, I'd recommend Half Life Source...
HL1 is considered by valve to be the definitive way to play now
HLS is unlisted from the steam store
last talon
HL1 is considered by valve to be the definitive way to play now
definitive eh? I just ranted on #gami_g about how it corrupted my saves and has all kinds of weird af issues
honest stag
interesting
last talon
issues the original never had
honest stag
first i hear of someone encountering that
i only had one issue and even that was multiplayer
last talon
like sometimes I press mouse 1 but it wont shoot 
and I checked if its my mouse
its not
honest stag
vsync shit maybe
last talon
could be even tho I had that off
then again the game enables mouse acceleration in windows settings too :)
because why not
last talon
yeah sure
played till I was like 1 or 2 maps away from lambda complex, game crashed and corrupted my saves :)
not gonna play again
all it did was remind me on how badly half life has aged
its like the most influental game of my youth but jesus fuck
honest stag
it didnt age too well, i agree, but tbh this update made me like it a bit more than i used to after i played again
ancient monolith
HLS is unlisted from the steam store
Not really, it's just included only in a bundle, cant buy separate.
honest stag
you're not using -bsp2?
just put it into the compile settings for qbsp
there is no reason not to use it for any map
void crescent
fixed :3
void crescent
is there a way to correctly rotate stuff that doesnt like to be rotated ie exploding car
crisp raven
Yeah trying adding the angles property to the object then using the rotate tool
void crescent
Yeah trying adding the angles property to the object then using the rotate tool
angles or angle?
either way doesnt work
blissful lion
angles
you maybe need to imput the vaules yourself, there are three: x y z, so it would be angles: 0 180 90 or something
void crescent
they rotate but the editor and ingame dont align
ill just waitfor the sdk or smthing to make an exploding car or smthing
honest stag
just make a breakable car that spawns in 2 jerry cans into the same place
once it breaks
causing a telefrag explosion
void crescent
lil teaser
void crescent
just make a breakable car that spawns in 2 jerry cans into the same place
how would I do this?
honest stag
make a breakable object
make the breakable object target a trigger_teleport that has 2 jerry cans in it
put the teleport destination at the car position
done
honest stag
2 exploding cans inside of a trigger_teleport
void crescent
everything inside the brush teleports?
honest stag
those 2 specifics object inside one trigger_teleport
void crescent
yep, phisically inside the brush
method works
is there a way to teleport brushes?
or move them at lightspeed to a position
void crescent
how do I make one, the worldspawn entity appears instead of the brush
honest stag
just make like a func_door or smth and then rename it into func_wall_toggle
honest stag
use a multi_manager
multi_manager is a point entity, and the way it works is you add the targetnames of the entities you want triggered as the keys
so your breakable/button/trigger would target buttmanager here, and buttmanager would trigger "anothername" "button1" and "buttondoor" all at once
bad explanation and bad namingi know
void crescent
got it
im just having trouble with the wall toggle
doesnt wanna work
actually it works
it turns invisible when triggered
im going to use it, I just want the opposite
OK I think I have found a workaround
late seal
Ay, tourist from general modding here. Is there any where I can look at the raw textures and models of DUSK? I'm trying to make a game with a similar artstyle and would like some reference material
bold orbit
hey uh
does anyone know if the texture that the Mortar weapons worldmodel uses
is in the SDK
ancient monolith
models are here, textures you can get from game files when you download the sdk or extras i forgot which @late seal
late seal
Ok, thank you 
void crescent
btw where i can find skyboxes for use?
void crescent
WHATS THE THING WITH TEXMEX F*CKING UP THE COLORS!? I WANT GREEN GODDAMNIT GREEN NOT GRAY
crisp raven
Probably because it uses a limited colour palette
fleet meadow
WHATS THE THING WITH TEXMEX F*CKING UP THE COLORS!? I WANT GREEN GODDAMNIT GREEN...
green? in this economy?
void crescent
Probably because it uses a limited colour palette
is there a wad converter that doesnt yknow screw it up
void crescent
like one that doesnt "filter" a color pallete
honest stag
(he meant to ping)
honest stag
fireblu moment
ancient monolith
^
honest stag
that's the quake palette
void crescent
fr, can I not use another palette?
void crescent
yeah you can
how
humble crescent
junior mauve
does anyone know how to activate cheats in dusk?
bold orbit
Type them in during gameplay
junior mauve
so just t-h-e-m ?
eternal spear
last talon
eternal spear
you'll find all of the cheat codes in your goodies folder
junior mauve
thats pretty cool, thanks
eternal spear
will non-sdk dusk ever see nbclip added,,,
bold orbit
Idk
last talon
what do you mean with non-sdk dusk?
aint this coming patch supposed to unite regular exe with the mod one?
honest stag
hope so
last talon
it's taken so long at this point that one might think its some david's spaghetti code reason that these two halves cannot be combined
ancient depot
We decided against the SDK replacing the main game wholesale for a few reasons, but mostly because we didn't want to deal with complaints about save games and configs breaking
Maybe in the future we'll add support for that stuff in the SDK just for the sake of parity and then it can replace it
honest stag
still gonna have to switch to the beta branch for mods?
ancient depot
Right now the plan is to make it a free DLC
And the DLC adds a Steam launch option
That may change, but that's what we're considering rn
honest stag
that actually sounds hella good
last talon
We decided against the SDK replacing the main game wholesale for a few reasons, ...
also do you really care about what people think that much?
games been out for god knows how long. it's not like a large amount of people are going to lose their first playthru progress
I dunno just sounds like a copout reason to me
honest stag
why make anyone lose progress at all lol
i'd be pretty sad if i played through half a game and a sudden update to an already released game broke my saves
in fact i'd go onto the STEAM FORUMS and i'd make a LIST of DEMANDS
and THREATEN with a REFUND
:(
bold orbit
I forgor is the faster bootup that was on the sdk branch now on the regular one as well
blissful lion
idk i remember the sdk bootup being slow
plush hemlock
i'd be pretty sad if i played through half a game and a sudden update to an alre...
I've lived that three times at this point with White Hell
it's annoying, I'll wait for the full game to come out before playing it again
slate lake
Seems like the best place to ask this, will the SDK be on Linux come December 10th?
grizzled drift
When I saw the Dusk HD trailer I thought that mods didn't exist for it before then, what would the SDK be used for?
quaint heath
When I saw the Dusk HD trailer I thought that mods didn't exist for it before th...
the new version of the SDK has a lot less limitations
I'll give you an example, you can't mod some enemies, bosses and weapons with the current implementation
grizzled drift
I'll give you an example, you can't mod some enemies, bosses and weapons with th...
Cool, but I bet it will require unity, tho
honest stag
no
tight hedge
is fog gonna work the same as in trenchbroom for quake? Same flags and everything?
ancient monolith
just make a bunch of plain color textures
ancient monolith
beautiful!
tawdry acorn
beautiful!
minecraft 1.22 leak
ancient monolith
No clue why you get those results, I guess it's because you use a locked down TB config for a specific game and wad files instead of normal .png-s
i'd look for settings in your wad generating software
crisp raven
how to make mods work
Which kind of mod?
half storm
What does Jaket mean?
jaket the multiplayer ultrakill mod
crisp raven
Vriska you're my guardian angel
half storm
ooops
crisp raven
We all make mistakes 👍
last lion
is the SDK release going to affect scaling of maps? i know duskdude moves real fast compared to ranger
ancient depot
The scale factor will remain unchanged
32 bsp units = 1 dusk unit
duskdude's around 2 units tall and 1 unit wide, give or take a tiny skin width of around 0.06 units
last lion
clever bison
gritty forge
echo escarp
will dusk multiplayer receive an sdk update.
void crescent
in the future
mellow beacon
is there any version of dusk for arm processors
crisp raven
SDK in 10 days!!!
crisp raven
Omg which maps are YOU 🫵 going to upload to the workshop?
eternal spear
uploading testmap 1 through 6 to the workshop,,
i havent worked on that thing in like two months
honest stag
Omg which maps are YOU 🫵 going to upload to the workshop?
im only gonna upload 3 personally
mayb 4
trespasser, tomb terror, insomnia
maybe baptism by blood, but that needs fixes
wubout u..... @crisp raven
junior tendon
#server-announcements message ;@everyone will it be released in europe as well?
crisp raven
wubout u..... <@748224951886282853>
American Nightmare and everything after is the plan
I still have to fix all the ladders in all my levels 
half dust
Just one initially
plush hemlock
ARE YUO GUYS READY FOR THE DELAY ANOUNCMENT?!?!
that was mean from my part I'm so sorry to everyone please don't stomp me to death please please don't I beg
half dust
Kill the non believer!
last lion
echo escarp
if dusk multiplayer gets the new sdk, I think multiplayer would become more popular.
ancient monolith
By more popular, you mean 2 more players?
eternal spear
3 if we're lucky!
echo escarp
By more popular, you mean 2 more players?
1 more player atleast (me)
ancient monolith
Whoa, that's a lot, totally worth investing 1000 hours of programmer work hours into.
honest stag
one week remains
blissful lion
can you believe it, dusk sdk, just a week away
echo escarp
Whoa, that's a lot, totally worth investing 1000 hours of programmer work hours ...
yes
honest stag
anyone remember q dude?
he just added me on steam
mfer is not dead i repeat q dude is NOT dead
bold orbit
Q dude?
tight hedge
fuck man
I was gonna have my bigass hell level finished for the SDK update but im too busy lol
I have another map in progress as well
but this update is gonna motivate me to continue for sure
though I will look into updating my existing maps for the update, mostly fixing up some minor details and revisiting some areas that have had issues (such as the button that opens the garage doors on cannibal ridge that noone can ever spot and end up just using the climbing ability and trying to climb all over the place)
might just make it a proximity thing where it opens as you get close
or light up the button to match the literal suns brightness like that one button where you fight the intoxigator in the vanilla game lmao
grizzled drift
I was gonna have my bigass hell level finished for the SDK update but im too bus...
Just a question, is Unity needed for the SDK modding to work?
honest stag
nope
honest stag
that's for maps specifcally
to make textures/sounds/models you dont need anything besides whatever tools you use to do so
scripting is not currently a thing
muted glacier
Q dude?
Yeah his pfp was a super shotgun or something. Map maker that just disappeared and deleted all his stuff one day.
honest stag
he also wrote the mapping guide in pins
blissful lion
i hoped we could get our hands on the sdk few days earlier so the mods on the workshop would be there and functional from the start
ancient depot
That was the original plan but if we end up having time for that it'll probably be like a day beforehand
blissful lion
ok thats the weekend that prob enough
ancient depot
tfw you break triggers
honest stag
Lmao
bold orbit
We're making it out of the nameless city with this one
blissful lion
mfw id software opens the portal to hell for doom's 30th anniversary and the sdk cant release
crude ferry
Joined to see what modding for DUSK would be like (only just installed the game). Noticed its .bsp based proceeded to cry.
honest stag
sir im gonna have to ask u to leave
nimble prawn
5 or whatever years of waiting and just when SDK releases im busy doing my masters