general-modding

[hazy sky]

generally speaking i could balance things out like beretta is faster but welrod has better range

which in theory it doesn't, but who cares

[uncut agate]

boolet

[muted stirrup]

yeah and up the damage for welrod im guessing

just for balance

both will be good enough tho for one hit headshots

at close range etc

[hazy sky]

not damage, just damage multiplier

[muted stirrup]

ahh fairs

[hazy sky]

since i'm planning missions where sneaking is possible/mandatory, there will be an ambush mechanic

like unaware enemies already take twice damage

otherwise all the welrod is gonna be good for is to pop the helmet off

that being said, not all levels will have different firearms per player

[muted stirrup]

gotcha 👍

[hazy sky]

WHY are the sounds in the PS1 MOH games so satisfying tho

just the M1 garand and 1911 alone

m1

1911

[pure jackal]

Spielberg

[crimson tapir]

Still needs a few tweeks like the dioramas rotation axis being off center, having an actual skybox, and the snow particles being a bit off, but I think I've got the foundation for how I want the main menu to look

Ideally when I get character models made I'll add them in to the diorama

[crimson tapir]

Damn, those sound MEATY dude

[hazy sky]

yeah, the devs did a good job 23 years ago

[hazy sky]

send me the mesh and I'll center it for you in blender if it's difficult in trenchbroom

[hazy sky]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kARj4ERXtQ8

just got this filter for substance

can't wait to try it

[muted stirrup]

https://fxtwitter.com/GameDevKS/status/1733458931580912000

[hazy sky]

hmm

good enough

[azure flume]

if you want to 'center' something in godot, just make it a child of a node and rotate the node instead of the model

[hazy sky]

i mean you can do that, but it's as easy as three quick clicks in blender to get the absolute center of something

[azure flume]

Effort

We lazy, we need simple quick hacks

[crimson tapir]

The .map file?

[hazy sky]

the what file

[crimson tapir]

Ok, here we go, got it as an obj file, i'll send it over

[rotund garden]

it's VERY nice, well worth the money it costs

[azure flume]

why is trenchbroom incapable of drawing square shaped textures on a square

what the hell

these do not look like square to me

yet it claims it's scaled 0.25 to 0.25

[crimson tapir]

Because the wall is angled I'd assume

The Hypotenuse is longer then the sides

[azure flume]

Yes, but when you angle a square its still a square, why do the textures change shape

a texture scaled 1:1 should not fking stretch ???

[crimson tapir]

Idk, I guess just mess with the x/y scaling a bit until it looks right

[azure flume]

there's another problem with that, when exported to godot it does not match what I see in trenchbroom

this makes no sense whatsoever

[crimson tapir]

Try making a godot texture with the same name as the texture image, and place it in the textures folder

[azure flume]

^ see

[crimson tapir]

If you do that it will use that texture on import

[azure flume]

i obviously do that

[crimson tapir]

What angle is the wall sitting at?

[azure flume]

45

[crimson tapir]

Try setting the x scale to about: 0.17678

Or actually is it being smushed on the y axis?

[azure flume]

i mean if i have to do stuff like that for every angled wall in my game id rather uninstall trenchbroom and get something that fucking works

[azure flume]

and even if i do that, it still looks wrong in godot

expectations vs reality

[hazy sky]

i mean it's not bad for a first try

i can't pass height information through for some reason into pixel8r

also this is 100% procedural, i didn't touch anything just yet

[spare scarab]

that's a nice model man

[crimson tapir]

Lil rough draft for a desktop icon/logo (100% original, btw)

[crimson tapir]

hmmm, idk man, there's probably some kind of trenchbroom discord or forum you could check out with people who are really experienced with it and could tell you exactly what to do

[hazy sky]

thanks

it's kinda rough around the edges tho

[uncut agate]

im wondering on how i should make the title name for my game
should i do what medievil did or should i do something like Petscop

[pure jackal]

not ba

[pure jackal]

motherfucker thats INCREDIBLE

[uncut agate]

hows this?

[inner shuttle]

me when the bunny is hop

[hazy sky]

no it's not i tried baking down high poly info to a low poly mesh but the high poly mesh is like the low poly with extra polygons that look absolutely fucking horse shit

i might have to unwrap the model by hand tho

not sure how poorly will substance handle it

[hazy sky]

that's pretty good

now vertex paint some details on it

speaking of vertex paint, is it possible to hook vertex paint into emissive?

[uncut agate]

i feel like it shouldn't be just yellow

[hazy sky]

give it an outline

or make it 3D and make the sides a different color

or bevel it

give it some 3D shape for shading

[uncut agate]

somethings wrong
when i press WASD he rotates like that

        float verticalInput = Input.GetAxis("Vertical");
        Vector3 inputDir = orientation.forward * verticalInput + orientation.right * horizontalInput;```
something's probably wrong with this

[merry lotus]

are you setting the rotation of the model or an empty parent gameobject

[uncut agate]

I think it's the rotation of the model

The rig Mainly

[merry lotus]

it's probably the way you exported it

there's 2 solutions, either re-export it and in the transform settings (right side of the file view) set "apply scalings" to FBX All and check apply transform or set the model to be the child of an empty gameobject with no rotation, set the rotation you want for the model, and make it so it rotates the empty parent instead of the model

[hazy sky]

idk man it feels weird

[hazy sky]

i fix

still feels kinda CGI and not like it was taken from a real photo and degraded but i'll manage

maybe i'll overlay some to it and call it a day

[pure jackal]

my man only you can look at THAT and say it's not good

[hazy sky]

for some reason godot really pushes those mipmaps aggressively

only on the webley tho

another fit check

i might have to reduce the texture quality

also fix the fucking seams on the beretta

fuck you godot i already fixed it before

[azure flume]

Ok so turns out you have to select 'Valve' as your map format when making maps for Godot if you don't want your textures to be fucked.

Thanks Gabe

[uncut agate]

apply scalings?

[merry lotus]

and apply transform is under there too

[hazy sky]

please tell me you have an elaborate way to handle multiple weapons with the ability to pick them up i'm in dire need to rewrite my weapon handler script-

[uncut agate]

i did that now he's doing a handstand

[inner shuttle]

its literally easy just dm me

i'll tell you how

[hazy sky]

check within unity then and see if he's flipped

alternatively set Up to Y Down

[uncut agate]

doesnt work

[hazy sky]

you don't work

what goes wrong there?

try fiddling with the forward as well

[uncut agate]

this is what's going on

[merry lotus]

how are you rotating the model

[uncut agate]

        float verticalInput = Input.GetAxis("Vertical");
        Vector3 inputDir = orientation.forward * verticalInput + orientation.right * horizontalInput;```
like this

[merry lotus]

yeah but how are you setting it

[uncut agate]

with a public transform
thats got the rig in it

[merry lotus]

no like

are you doing transform.rotation = (however you set the rotation) or something like that

or transform.eulerAngles

[uncut agate]

    {// player orientation
        Vector3 ViewDir = player.position - new Vector3(transform.position.x, player.position.y, transform.position.z);
        orientation.forward = ViewDir.normalized;

        //rotate player
        float horizontalInput = Input.GetAxis("Horizontal");
        float verticalInput = Input.GetAxis("Vertical");
        Vector3 inputDir = orientation.forward * verticalInput + orientation.right * horizontalInput;

        float horizontalInput = Input.GetAxis("Horizontal");
        float verticalInput = Input.GetAxis("Vertical");
        Vector3 inputDir = orientation.forward * verticalInput + orientation.right * horizontalInput;

    }```
no im doing something like this

[merry lotus]

so is the model the orientation variable

[uncut agate]

its a gameobject

[merry lotus]

yes but is the orientation gameobject supposed to be the model gameobject

[uncut agate]

no

[merry lotus]

i don't see anywhere in the code where you're actually setting the rotation though

[uncut agate]

https://youtu.be/UCwwn2q4Vys?si=cV8KHZ5xHS-P6T8u
this is what im following, and its exactly like my code

[merry lotus]

so i'm assuming this is how you're setting the rotation

if so then you probably have to go with the whole setting the playerObj variable to an empty gameobject that has the model as it's child

[uncut agate]

i have found out that the (transform.position.x, player.position.y, transform.position.z)
affect the rotation

so ill tweak with it

[unique trellis]

you know what is one of my favourite things to do when placing things for various difficulties (in doom mapping)
placing corpses and occasional pickups at the places where the enemies on the harder difficulties would be
kinda tells a story imo

[inner shuttle]

god i love weird input feedback

(talking about the hexagonal grids moving, the input overlay is an OBS thing)

[hazy sky]

make it bounce with the walking bob

gives it a really cool PS1 feeling because back then a lot of these sci-fi games tried making the HUD interactive

look up Codename Tenka

the entire HUD is on your gun there

[inner shuttle]

oh god sure

why the fuck not

cursed existence

[earnest lily]

I had the same issue with Unreal - can you change the mip map bias / not load mip maps at all for some assets?

[uncut agate]

is there such thing as the cinemachine collision modifier in unity?
or does it exist
i wanna use it to make my camera not clip through stuff

wait i found it

[azure flume]

You can tweak them, yes

[junior bluff]

anyone else got all their texturebuttons and shit broken after updating to godot 4.2?

[uncut agate]

its awesome

ignore the fact it looks like it was filmed on a CRT

it adds to the charm

[hazy sky]

delay the camera's following a little like in Mario 64 or Crash Bandicoot

also make your character accelerate to a max speed as opposed to instantly full speed

[hazy sky]

you can play with them per texture in the import settings

[shut raft]

Weird question, is there a general game dev channel here?

[sudden imp]

this?

[shut raft]

Thats what I was thinking but I wasnt sure if there was like a "Game Dev" general chat or something

im bad a discord lol

[crimson tapir]

Hehe, I just though of a funny cosmetic to add to my game if I go down that route

Make an achievement for 2 players freezing each other at the same time, and for that achievement you both unlock one of those "I'm with stupid ->" shirts

[hazy sky]

i just realized my biggest hurdle for my game

what makes Medal of Honor so good is the soundtrack

how the fuck am i gonna compete with that

[pure jackal]

Stock 🙂

[azure flume]

money

[fast vault]

Hey guys, thoughts on which UI looks better? It's for health, ammo and energy

[tropic token]

I'd say number 3, but I guess 1 could also work depending on the style and genre of the game

[azure flume]

I also prefer the third

Hate the first one with passion!

[hazy sky]

nO

[hazy sky]

first one if you want cruelty squad level of HUD, second if you want readability and third one is also good because it reminds me of gunfire reborn

obviously try going with the third or second one

[crimson tapir]

definitely 3

Although I think you should stick the lightning icon on the orange bar, like in the second one, for readability

[fast vault]

Alright thanks guys

[crimson tapir]

Anyone know of a way to make smaller integer variables in godot? The default int size is 64 bits, and I don't want to have to send 8 bytes of info over the network every tick for the player input when only 1-2 bytes are needed.

[crimson tapir]

Ok, revising the question, does anyone know if there's any additional overhead to sending it as a packed byte array?

Because it seems like that would be the smallest way to send those inputs over the network

[crimson tapir]

Seems like the upload and download is on average slightly better with the packed byte array, so ig I'll keep it

From what I can see, a difference of about 0.12 KiB/s

[merry lotus]

third one is my favorite

[pure jackal]

I like 1 but I also like 3

[crimson tapir]

Does anyone know any good snow or winter sports themed fonts?

I'm getting tired of everything being the default godot font

[torpid oak]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1175393467204108370/1183707710370365440/image.png?ex=658950b6&is=6576dbb6&hm=1784d537880da164a3b50697dd07eb5baecc457062ebb74239d3eeb54ec48663&

still got ways to go but its looking promising

[torpid oak]

3

[fast vault]

Alright, what about this one?

Or does it seem too confusing?

[uncut agate]

that
looks
awesome

maybe put words on top of the bars
so people can know which is which
like E for energy or something like that

[fast vault]

I'll see if I can implement some kinda icon for the different bars

[uncut agate]

or you could try something like metroid

[crimson tapir]

This one looks really good, bu maybe just add back the little icons the bars had from the ones earlier

[uncut agate]

oh yeah im working on another hubworld
its on my school computer so ill just make a floor plan of it so you guys can see it

its ment to be da vinci's studio

[crimson tapir]

Dont think it dont say it
Dont think it dont say it
Dont think it dont say it

[uncut agate]

what

oh no

what are you thinking

[crimson tapir]

mogus

[uncut agate]

i was thinking of mario pissing

i gotta figure out how to play animations inside my state handler for my character movement

i wanna make an enemy that is just nightmare fuel
like the mannequin from ultrakill or anything else

[fast vault]

Those are always fun to make

[uncut agate]

i kinda like this wall

[crimson tapir]

More menu stuff

Might need to bump up pannel opacity looking back at this

[fast vault]

Looking solid!

[muted stirrup]

oh yeah...

[hazy sky]

make a fuel indicator needle as the bar progress

[hazy sky]

to be honest you should look at clean main menu designs, you could easily enlarge the menu options and shrink the background a bit to better match the size. you could also move the menu to the middle, lower the opacity of the background or add a blur effect to the background itself or something

background as the menu options blue background

[hazy sky]

look up SSX, or snowboard ads and try and find the fonts to them, see if you can find something similar that's free to use

you could go for a grungy 2005 font as well

some street-ish font that is chunky

[hazy sky]

the shake effect is dope as fuck

[hazy sky]

give me cool ww2 rifles between 1940 and 1945

[crimson tapir]

I was going for the Halo 3 look, but with the title moved to the top left

[hazy sky]

my point stands

make the background blur the level in the back, and make the spinny level maybe centered and bigger

or make the background be the map of your multiplayer level, and do flyby's around

you can do video players in Godot so if you wanted, you could also prerender the videos to play in your menu

wish i could find an actual screenshot of the halo reach title

i'll just grab some from videos

in reach, there were these videos playing in the background for motion where the fight is happening

[crimson tapir]

Making the background a level could be a good idea, would definitely let me position around a few more characters for action shots

Oh actually, I'm trying to go for a winter Olympics/Winter Xgames type vibe with this game, maybe I could base it off of like an Olympic opening or something

I could totally do something like this for the scoreboard when you press tab

[fast vault]

What do you guys think of the HUD in motion?

[crimson tapir]

Nice, I like that it reacts to the knock back a bit

[crimson tapir]

This better?

[merry lotus]

looks awesome

[drowsy escarp]

Anyone else having difficulties implementing tab containers that support controllers?

[uncut agate]

got the model to my home computer

[pure jackal]

heck yeah

[uncut agate]

tried making a floor
accidentally made something from kirby

[fast vault]

That looks pretty dope

[uncut agate]

i was trying something like these floors

[pure jackal]

Temple of tiem 🙂

[crimson tapir]

Ok, maybe now it's time to start making an actual character model. I hate looking at this 💀

[hazy sky]

a lot

[hazy sky]

also if you want better seams on your trees, try making a triplanar snow texture

or just unwrap the trees better

[crimson tapir]

I just cobbled together the trees in trenchbroom

I'll dust off blender and start doing some actual modeling here soon though

[fast vault]

Anyone know of a Blender add-on that can just auto-generate a forest to fill out a space?

[azure flume]

Anyone knows a godot add-on that can just auto-generate a game for me based on a prompt I write?

[crimson tapir]

Anyone know an AI add on that can generate an AI add on to generate AI add ons?

[fast vault]

Unfortunately, that might not be too far out. And then we'll really see Steam get flooded

In Unity, I think there are assets that can auto populate an area with prefabs. I wonder if Blender has something similar

[hazy sky]

fuck yeah PC crash I love starting my progress all over

[hazy sky]

would've liked it better if i could hook the transmission value up to the shader material but this is cool as well

i could in theory hook up stuff to the script and make the bottle play sloshing sounds when reaching the high limit of wobbling

this feels a bit more correct in terms of oily viscosity and surface tension movement

[hazy sky]

also unf that fucking metallic roughness map

[plush pasture]

for a sec i thought that was a 2d image of your real hand

but no it's a very convincing 3d hand

[crimson tapir]

And that's the last final for the semester, I'm between jobs, and the gf is 5 hours away, as of right now I'm a full time developer, and I intend to take full advantage of it

[pure jackal]

I crave more of this pls ty

[hazy sky]

go get em tiger

[hazy sky]

yea,,

wish i had more time

[fast vault]

Ever since 2015, I've wanted to film a speedster character

[uncut agate]

i kinda like this wall texture

makes the place feel dusty

[hazy sky]

what am i looking at

is this a sticker

[uncut agate]

no its the texture

[hazy sky]

nice

[uncut agate]

what should the roof be

[pure jackal]

make your own fake cistine chaple painting

go for the bit

[crimson tapir]

Meet the contestant, absolutely BEEFY lad

His head looks kind of weird and small but that's cuz the different head gear and hat models will go over it

[uncut agate]

didn't michelangelo make that

[pure jackal]

exactly

the joke is perfect

[uncut agate]

i really wanted to put him in the renaissance isle but he wouldn't fit
since all the bosses are the main bad guys baddies

[crimson tapir]

I put his thumb

On the wrong side

dammit

[uncut agate]

i was looking through images of da vincis studio and i came across a stop-motion movie about him
and the VA is Stephan Fry
i will now forever think that da vinci sounds like that

[crimson tapir]

So can I get this model to unwrap and then use the unwrap as the basis for how I draw the texture in gimp?

[pure jackal]

yes you can unwrap the UV to your liking and then hit UV>EXPORT UV LAYOUT

then load it up in whatever you want

[crimson tapir]

Ok, cool. Is there some kind of plugin that lets me see the paint getting applied in real time, or do I kind of just have to wing it?

[pure jackal]

probably but I don't use it

I just save the PNG and load it into the material and adjust as needed

[crimson tapir]

Aight, thanks

Ok, so if I used the mirror mode to model the character how do I make the other side "real" so that the texture doesn't have to be 100% symetrical

Nvm, got it

[uncut agate]

i hate myself sort of
but still
working on my drawing skills is something i can do for fun other than work on my game

[pure jackal]

resolution should be in the export settings

[crimson tapir]

Ah, ok thanks

One last thing, in Duskworld you're able to custom color different parts of the model in game, how does that work

[pure jackal]

vertex color I'm guessing?

[cunning wing]

sampong deltrune..........

[crimson tapir]

Sonic Unleashed E-Rank Music

[hazy sky]

this is why I use substance painter

[fast vault]

It's a shame substance painter is only available via creative cloud and not a one time purchase

[pure jackal]

Service economy my wretched

[hazy sky]

hmu I think I can aid you with that

[crimson tapir]

Anyone know a way to have a vbox not change the sizes of its contents?

[crimson tapir]

Maybe I should just nab a character model from DUSK or something until I can get one that actually looks good put together

[inner shuttle]

plank

[hazy sky]

nice dithering and quantization

what program do you use?

[hazy sky]

obviously

you should get as many placeholder stuff as possible so it doesn't slow you down when you actually need something

i have this curse where i MUST finalize something in order to say "good enough, next thing"

[inner shuttle]

i make my textures in substance designer

[cloud bloom]

Found out recently there's a permanent license available on Steam

For both painter and designer

[fast vault]

Wait really? I'll have to check that out

Lol I wonder if it ever goes on sale

[severe cobalt]

improved some animations

[fast vault]

That's looking good!

[unique trellis]

I am such a fucking nerd even by programmer standards. I just took my programming final, right? I had to write a for loop, but once it found the first 0 in a list I wanted it to stop there and not find anymore

Tell me why my first instinct was to look up the maximum digit a 64 bit computer could hold before it goes into integer overflow, and set my counting variable to that instead of just adding the length of the fucking list to my counting variable and being done with it.

[hazy sky]

didn't they actually take that back? I remember when adobe bought Substance they got rid of all options for getting a permanent license

[hazy sky]

yeah mate that's a thousand times better, I told you to either make the animations more fluid or have a frame or two more to make it feel more lively

nothing wrong with getting some feedback either

[severe cobalt]

the 'ok' I said before was 'ok' as a 'wow good feedback'
and yeah more frames = better

[azure flume]

oh jesus

"You will get free updates on Steam up to the end of 2023"

"This license does not include access to the Substance 3D Assets platform (previously Substance Source)."

Surely there are FOSS alternatives to this?

[fast vault]

I think Blender is the closest one?

[crimson tapir]

If you're going to do that just use a while loop at that point, lol

[crimson tapir]

So does the Node.move_child() function swap two children, like if I say move child from index 3 to 5 does child 5 then go to index 3?

Or does it just smush everything over when the child is moved

Really hope it's the former because it will leave me with a few less hoops to jump through before I can get my scoreboard working, cuz I'm using a quicksort algorithm for ordering the players from highest score to lowest

(I take every opportunity to use quicksort that I can because I think it's neat, lol)

Nvm, there's an easier way to do this, I'm just being dum

[crimson tapir]

Scoreboard is up and running

Ignore all the shit on the screen like the bars in the top left, or attacker -> victim thing in the top right, that's just stuff I haven't wired up yet

Also I swear the quality is only this bad in the vid so it can be small enough to send over discord, lol

[hazy sky]

i know a few alternatives like i said, if you want me to elaborate you need to dm me tho

[fast vault]

Progress is looking great! I like the Unreal Tournament-style ready up

[hazy sky]

something to do for later, do turbulence for the snowflakes falling

you can enable that in the emitter

[azure flume]

Sorry but piracy is not an alternative.

[hazy sky]

i was about to suggest the godot engine based substance alternative first and foremost, not sure if i can post itch links here since it's kind of like advertisement

[vague bough]

Dusk penis

[hazy sky]

also paying monthly/annually for spyware isn't exactly ethical either

i hate adobe with all my heart

[vague bough]

Windows movie maker?

[inner shuttle]

yippeeeee

[hazy sky]

how the fuck do you make so much progress bruh

do you also quantize the materials in designer?

[azure flume]

sure you can

[hazy sky]

hmm

doesn't feel right

[azure flume]

You mean Material Maker?

[crimson tapir]

Aight, I'll look into that tomorrow

Also the scoreboard was kind of a rare development opportunity, because I actually got to use a bubble sort algorithm

Because the data set is small (16 max) and the list will probably be mostly in the right order anyways, under these very specific circumstances bubble sort is actually a viable option, which is neat

And the whole algorithm is like 8 lines of code so that's neat too

[crimson tapir]

Maybe it looks too metaly? Like it might just be because it dosn't have the right shaders applied to it in the screen shot but it looks more like it's made of green painted metal instead of glass

[severe cobalt]

improved everything
UI, weapon, effects

[hazy sky]

yeah actually that's what occured to me as well

don't know how to make glassy looks inside painter

[hazy sky]

bruh if you make multiple levels, you should do a camera flyby with the UI showing the game mode and map name like this

you also need levels that are set at night with only those huge ass lights giving you your light

i always love that mood so much, SSX3 on PS2 was a treat because of it

[desert shard]

Added some health mechanics to incentivise kicking the bat

also added a combo meter kek

[fast vault]

oh man it's been a while since I've seen this

[crimson tapir]

Good idea, in fact if those fly bys are prerecorded, they could possibly be used to disguise loading screens

[crimson tapir]

Yeah, ofc. I think at some point I made a giant list of props I wanted to add and those were one of them

Really want to have a lot of man-made elements on the stages like artificial lights, barriers, television cameras, billboards plastered with the logos of different sponsors, and stuff like that to sell the high budget winter sporting event vibe

[drowsy escarp]

Anyone else have issues with ragdolls stretching when they are launched a by force?

[muted stirrup]

https://fxtwitter.com/GameDevKS/status/1736050666865406440?s=20

[severe cobalt]

did too many job
https://vxtwitter.com/Intothevoidgame/status/1736029553322279198?s=20

[granite tusk]

Progress of the week >: D

[vivid lichen]

this looks fucking amazing, why am i only just now seeing this
i will be watching your career with great interest

[inner shuttle]

yes

i have a whole system

[inner shuttle]

yippee! yet another texture test!

[hazy sky]

reminds me a lot of FEAR

[inner shuttle]

having teal as your main color doesn't make it fear

[fast vault]

How'd you handle stairs with your fps controller?

[severe cobalt]

looks really good

love this game already

[inner shuttle]

shapecast that moves with the player direction and checks surface normal

here's also a WIP of something i plan to do later down the line (LUT-based color quantization, in-game)

i love how it affects the color of the grenade burst

very aesthetic

my main issue with it is that sometimes shadow can look a bit.. banded

like here

also apparently DOF effects work with this?? what

too much power

[crimson tapir]

Few ways, the Godot character controller already has built in step logic, so you could use that if you want

[inner shuttle]

are you talking about contact separators? those are ok at best

[crimson tapir]

Or you could take the lazy route, make the stairs a slope and disable collision on the actual stairs

[inner shuttle]

best way to do it is either TestMove or a shapecast in movement dir

you don't want the player to go up stairs if they get pushed by recoil

[crimson tapir]

I haven't added any stairs to my game yet so I'm not certain, but there is an option for step height that lets you walk over steps of certain heights

[inner shuttle]

i think you're confusing snap length

[crimson tapir]

But yeah, shapecast is the proper way to do it

[inner shuttle]

there's no step height param

[crimson tapir]

I'm not at my computer rn so I can't look at it rn

[inner shuttle]

snap length is useful the other way around, to keep you glued to stairs

[crimson tapir]

Yeah I know, I had crank up the snap length to get the snowboarding physics working, keep the player from bouncing their way down the slope

Idk, maybe I just imagined whatever I'm talking about, I'll look at it later

Huh, guess that isn't real

Ok so just have a raycast at the players feet facing forwards then have a "stairs" collision layer and when the raycast detects stairs and collision with the stairs is being made add some upward force

Or actually just make the raycast really short instead of specifically checking for collision, and maybe have it be angled by input direction instead of just forward so you can walk up stairs backwards or sideways

Or alternatively, position the ray up at your step limit, and if you collide with a wall in the direction of input, check if the ray is colliding with anything. If it isn't, the wall is short enough to walk over so add upward velocity, otherwise if it is, the wall is too tall to walk over and don't add upward velocity

This way you don't need to have a specific collision layer for stairs

[merry lotus]

or alternatively you could use slopes for colliders and use stairs just for graphics

[crimson tapir]

Well yeah, but if you do that then the stairs don't act like stairs in other circumstances like a physics object rolling down them

[merry lotus]

true

[crimson tapir]

I mean, I guess you could have the stairs collision layer not collide with players but do collide with physics objects, but them mapping becomes a lot more of a chore in the long run having to do that with every set of stairs you have

[inner shuttle]

raycast nodes are easier to set up but less versatile and can't be executed from code

[crimson tapir]

Wait really they can't?

[inner shuttle]

a much better approach for a raycast based logic thing in Godot is to directly make a physics query to the physics direct space state by accessing the scenetree's space state and using intersect_ray

[inner shuttle]

not to the extent you'd want

raycast nodes are very static

if you want fast, accurate and reliable data (at the cost of having to put some more code and work) use physics server queries

[crimson tapir]

Oh yeah, I used intersect rays for explosion physics

[inner shuttle]

nice!

that's one usecase yep

effectively acting as occluders

[crimson tapir]

Yeah the documentation for physics server queries are TERRIBLE though, lol

[inner shuttle]

yeah the physics server queries are a bit unloved

mostly because they use dictionary returns

and until we get typed dictionary support in Godot, that'll remain the case

dictionaries are a bit unloved in general

[crimson tapir]

So how significant is the performance difference between raycast/shapecast nodes and server queries

I use the nodes to detect ground, because that's something you never really want turned off

[inner shuttle]

pretty marginal, but you do get a lot better access to data and a lot better access to mapping a lot of data points to a lot of collision checks

so basically you'll have a much more fun time doing physics checks for collections and sets using physics server

not nodes

[crimson tapir]

Gotcha

[inner shuttle]

i personally use C++ for LINQ, since I'm very much like, a declarative-type programmer

I love to just say what computer should do and computer does it

[azure flume]

invisible ramps is the only correct solution.

[tranquil oracle]

Generally you make those slope colliders only impact the player, and then you have the "physical" ones just underneath to handle props and such

[crimson tapir]

Yuppers ^

[tranquil oracle]

Getting collision on "real" stairs to feel right for a player controller is difficult enough to justify it imo but I definitely understand why it's annoying for mapping

Especially when your tools are janky (looking at you, ProBuilder)

[crimson tapir]

Lol, I miss probuilder

[tranquil oracle]

Nobody should miss ProBuilder

[crimson tapir]

Godot has a few equivelents like Cyclops but it's just not the same

[crimson tapir]

I mean, it's the equivalent of missing your asshole hamster who would always bite you and piss all over you but you still loved him anyways

[tranquil oracle]

lmao

[severe cobalt]

no sound effects yet 😭

[hazy sky]

yes it does shut up

[hazy sky]

well yeah but CSGO also used slopes for stairs with it's clip brushes

[hazy sky]

I use intersect rays for my projectiles

basically wrote up a system that keeps track of the bullet evex frame and checks for intersection each tick, if intersected then put it back where it was when it happened and bullet go poof

every*

[fast vault]

Cyclops is nice, but I found my project just continually crashing after the level became a bit larger and more complex

[chrome warren]

meh why cant i post my creations?

[merry lotus]

#ranks

[muted stirrup]

shotgun go boom https://fxtwitter.com/GameDevKS/status/1736373215771987974?s=20

[hazy sky]

supressed shotty

[fast vault]

Really need to finish this project up someday

Also this

Man, I like working on gameplay stuff, but when it comes to actually building levels, I fire blanks

[crimson tapir]

Yeah the snowballs and icicles operate in a similar way

I remember in the unity build it drove me up a wall writing the gravity physics for the snowball because I accidentally made the time variable an integer instead of a float

So the projectile would just go perfectly straight for one second on t = 0 then dive bomb when t = 1

[crimson tapir]

Oh yeah, I remember seeing this one ages ago. Really cool concept, I love this one

[crimson tapir]

I'd imagine a water cooler would be the most logical "exploding barrel" object for this game

[inner shuttle]

mm yes staire detectione

[crimson tapir]

Yeahhhhh, maybe invisible slopes is the way to go

[inner shuttle]

no no you see, this used to not work like that

i want this

i want the janky broken quake physics

i want to climb 1px depth stair

[crimson tapir]

Aight, sounds like a plan, lol

[inner shuttle]

this game is broken beyond belief, and its all intentional

[crimson tapir]

I've placed some stairs in my test map as well cuz the stairs discourse has got me interested

[inner shuttle]

you can bhop, you can launch yourself into the moon with well timed series of grenades, you can literally sustain jumps with shotgun recoil because I'm calculating it just as an external force without any checks for ground or whatever

[crimson tapir]

The contestant is very excited for stairs physics, lmao

Aight I think I got stair logic working

Mine shoots out 2 rays, one just above max step height and one as low as possible without detecting flat ground

if the low one is going off, and the high one is not, and the low one has a normal angle between 89 and 91 degrees then there are stairs, so add upward velocity

[azure flume]

Ah yes, cold water! Maybe an ice cream truck too! Perfect for freezing weather!

[crimson tapir]

I mean you need to drink lots of water in the mountains, if you don't you get altitude sickness

And the idea of it is like if you throw a snowball at it the impact knocks it over and makes it spill everywhere

[crimson tapir]

These stairs are too tall which is why it looks so choppy, but I wanted to use them because they are the tallest possible stairs the contestant can walk up

In an actual map the steps would probably be like half that height

Also because of the way I implemented the stairs, if you jump at a short wall at the right angle you can gain extra upward velocity because it treats it like stairs, which is neat

There we go, nice and "smooth"

I love how you can fly up the stairs if you balst jump or bhop up them, lol

[junior bluff]

plush

[oblique lotus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/534802812719333391/1063532953705140355/smiminal.mp4

[oblique lotus]

i Maed a gUN!!11

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/312818425313361921/1164905558265057374/Plasric_Kastley1.mp4

[cunning wing]

looks like weenor!!!

[oblique lotus]

sorry my art badd

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/897558491659661333/958325660827385856/juggalo.mp4

me wheen u when ur IK not good rithgt
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/319878790237126658/957288289675649094/oh_god.mp4

[granite tusk]

I don't see what's so difficult about stairs

(it's a joke because I don't do it in the nice way)

[oblique lotus]

if you interact with stairs that way you should also interact with floors that way

[granite tusk]

funny thing is that you can

[oblique lotus]

press enter to floor

[fast vault]

I love mantling stairs!

Should go full Resi3 and have a cutscene play when walking on stairs

[hazy sky]

I fucking love level design, if someone told me I had to design levels for the rest of my life in order to provide for myself I'd die happily at old age

I have a very cool level idea since it's WW2

the demo will be set in Hungary instead of the planned England

the bombing of the bridge Elisabeth

with cool snow effects, and the level will be set at night

can't wait to finalize it, but I need some good textures if anything

[azure flume]

This is exactly how I feel about all the games that require pressing buttons on stairs!

[granite tusk]

you can just press forwards as well

[fast vault]

Dude if only my team had the money to hire you. None of us have much experience with level design lmao

[muted stirrup]

https://fxtwitter.com/GameDevKS/status/1736736165821104484?s=20 Gonna shill moar stuff lol, reflections honestly made a big difference

[fast vault]

For sure!

[crimson tapir]

Does Godot have a built in equivalent to Unity player prefs, or do I have to do that manually?

[crimson tapir]

So stairs are interactable and play an animation? That definitely a viable option for slower paced single player games

[granite tusk]

yeah, it's a dungeon crawler, so you move like lands of lore/Etrian Odyssey/Wizardry, it's "turn based"

[crimson tapir]

Cool, yeah you probably don't need complex stairs logic for that

[tranquil oracle]

PlayerPrefs is terrible why would you want an equivalent lmao

[crimson tapir]

Also speaking of stairs I improved my stairs a bit more but I can't show you because OBS just crashes my computer now apparently

[tranquil oracle]

It stores that shit in the registry

[crimson tapir]

Wait wat

I imagined it just made a text file somewhere

[tranquil oracle]

No it uses the registry it's terrible

[crimson tapir]

Dang

Ok so then does Godot have a built on system for storing things like screen names that is better than player prefs?

Or do I just need to gets started making that myself

[charred pumice]

Listen what is the point of having a registry if you can't put entire game save files in it.

[azure flume]

it has configfiles system

https://docs.godotengine.org/en/stable/classes/class_configfile.html

[granite tusk]

ah

didn't even know

I just put a Save folder and dump configs and player saves as filthy json

[azure flume]

nothing wrong with that

[inner shuttle]

current font is placeholder

nvm (had font issues)

[hazy sky]

me neither but it's not hard, i like designing pretty places and logical stuff

[hazy sky]

bruh this looks like a polished title

[hazy sky]

you could just do it the wolfenstein/doom RPG way and have forward trigger the animation as well

peak turn based RPG games

[hazy sky]

why not make a resource that collects the players into an array or dictionary?

[hazy sky]

also man what wouldn't i give to be in a proper team that takes the stuff seriously

[crimson tapir]

Because I don't want the player to have to manually enter their screen name every time they open the game

[hazy sky]

did you know you can save resources to file

[crimson tapir]

No, no I did not

[hazy sky]

and have the game load the resource at start

or you could make a global script that stores stuff like that

resources sound like the way though

[crimson tapir]

Yeah, it's a matter of just figuring out what tools Godot has because I've only been using it for a couple months versus the 5-6 years I've used unity

[granite tusk]

yeah it works that way as well 👍

I was reading somewhere that loading resources can be the vector for malware in Godot but I don't know how much of that is true. Potentially, you could hide something in the save file and it would be loaded, and executed. People talk about it here but I could not find the original description of the abuse: https://github.com/godotengine/godot-proposals/issues/4925

[inner shuttle]

aaa thank you

also you'll be happy to know 4:3 is getting the same kinda love

[hazy sky]

i'll be real honest this legit looks like a xbox 360 arcade title menu screen and that's in the best possible way

[inner shuttle]

yessss

that's what i was going for

that sort of early 2010s / late 00s vibes

[hazy sky]

also a little bit of timesplitters with the hexagons

[inner shuttle]

i just love hexagons

can't get enough of em

they're also on my HUD

[hazy sky]

bruh the actual timesplitters 2 title OST started playing in my head

i need to play it again

man i wish i had time for my own game

i'm full of ideas that torture me

[oblique lotus]

hexagons are sexagons

[inner shuttle]

*bestagons

[crimson tapir]

Every other shape gets rektagon'd

[inner shuttle]

truly

[crimson tapir]

Do you guys think split screen multiplayer would be worth implementing to Snowdown?

Like what you can do in COD or Halo multiplayer where you play online matches with split screen

If it is going to be implemented it should be sooner rather than later, and I already have an idea of how I would actually go about programming that, but would anyone even use it if I did?

Like most PC shooters don't bother with it, it's usually just console shooters that have it as a feature, but would it be appreciated if I had it or just a waste of significant development time?

[fast vault]

Idk it might not be worth it if you're short on time, considering most people wouldn't really huddle around their desk to play a party game

[oblique lotus]

i think worth it for a console game but not so much for a pc

[crimson tapir]

Yeah, you're right, if they REALLY need split screen, then do this

Actually, yeah if I just make it so the player can launch multiple instances of the game on one machine and set it up so they can have multiple user profiles, and each instance reads from a different input, then this could kinda work for the 3 guys that actually want it

Is there any way that I can allow players to run upto, but not more than 4 instances of the game?

[crimson tapir]

Ok, you know what, scratch that, I just added controller support and it's borderline unplayable, lmao

Nobody is going to want to split screen this

Doing tricks and blast jumping is practically impossible

[oblique lotus]

well i mean

you could probably fix that

over time

i only had one person play our game with a gamepad and it incentivized me to add aim assist and some other features

[crimson tapir]

I mean yeah I could probably improve it, make it so the stick sens increases when you do tricks, add aim assist, and that, but I think just by the nature of this game controllers will kind of always be an inferior way to play it

[oblique lotus]

mmm sadly you cant control what players do/want

[crimson tapir]

I mean, DO players play games like Quake or Unreal with a controller?

[oblique lotus]

apparently

like steam deck users and such

[crimson tapir]

Well, I guess I will go ahead an improve controller support for all 4 of them, but I'm probably not adding split screen

[hazy sky]

I'm aiming for split screen in my games because there are a lot of people who would play those games. it's gone poof in recent days and everyone is missing couch coop stuff

from the looks it really doesn't take much to implement at all

also both quake remasters came packed with split screen coop and multi so I suppose there is a market for it

[oblique lotus]

i mean if its not too hard to implement then all power to you

imo it depends on the type of game, fps is pretty heavily impacted by having less visibility

[crimson tapir]

Ok, I made it so Y sens increases when tricking and moved the inputs around so shoulder buttons are jump and sled

It's kind of all right now

May be tolerable if I add a bit of aim assist

I managed to get a perfect landing on a controller, it passes

barely

[crimson tapir]

Not in the online deathmatch

[oblique lotus]

understandable

having to push two sets of packets through would undoubtedly raise a bunch of issues

[crimson tapir]

Yeah, my game is exclusively online multiplayer, there is no single player mode

Although, if it is that in demand, I could probably set up an offline multiplayer mode with split screen

[unique trellis]

I should have an automatic taser to shock me every time I try to detail the map before thinking of it’s layout and encounters

[granite tusk]

Amen

[oblique lotus]

detail is for chumps, the real money is in episodic releases, just release 50 lines of the map at a time

[hazy sky]

yes in the online deathmatch. we played like that with my cousin

[hazy sky]

it's not bad to have a visual reference of the style you're trying to go for though. you can always make backups of the maps in order to look back and see what you liked in it

[crimson tapir]

On the PC version?

I booted it up to check yesterday, and I found offline split screen but couldn't get online split screen up

[hazy sky]

yeah we played through steam

[crimson tapir]

Huh

Guess we splittin' this bitch then

also, it just now dawned on me that I will have to make entirely separate logic for handling analog joystick movement input since the keyboard and mouse input is sent over to the server as a single byte with each bit representing a boolean input

[hazy sky]

I mean it still can be representing a bool right?

you just have to specify the velocity

[crimson tapir]

Then you would have to still send a vector, there would be redundant information sent a Ross the network in that case

The server needs to recreate the clients movement in order to calculate the correct position to beat speed cheats, and in order to do that the inputs must be sent, and with analog movement, you need to send the action strength of the input, not just a 1 or 0

So for controller inputs a shortened version of the input integer not including WASD will be sent with the 2 action strength floats

[crimson tapir]

We are not off to a good start adding split screen

[crimson tapir]

Ok, so definitely closer but now the trick system is doing this cancer instead of working right

The right side of the screen is just nothing rn because there isn't a second player

[hazy sky]

man I so fucking hate this

on my ONLY day off my head wants to explode with the meanest fucking migraine ever known to man

was so hyped yesterday for being able to work on my game

[spare scarab]

it happens man, sorry to hear
there will be another day off

and you'll crank it out

[hazy sky]

crank that ho

[crimson tapir]

So it seems like the problem is that the camera's x rotation refuses to go over/under 90/-90 degrees

Idk why, none of the actual logic of how mouse look works has changed, only difference is there is now a cam proxy node that the actual camera is constantly told to follow

Does a subviewport restrict rotation or something?

Seems like the players visor is rotating all the way around like it's supposed to though

In this clip I am only moving the mouse straight up, after hitting 90 degrees it starts going back down the other way, then hits -90 and starts going back up

Anyone experienced this before and know how to fisx it? The camera is parented under a subviewport, which then is being projected onto a texture rect on a grid container

The camera rotation code is unchanged with the only difference being that the cam is parented under a subviewport told to take the position and rotation of a proxy node every process update, which is the stand in for what used to be the camera object

[hazy sky]

a bit better

wonder how the softbody mesh will turn out in godot

the rag will swing around

[crimson tapir]

That looks better, having higher contrast between the dark and light parts of the bottle make it look more like glass and the appearance that the inside of the bottle is hollow

[hazy sky]

that's what i thought as well

i had three lights focused on it and it looked more like a metal drum than anything

so instead i have two focused on the same spot and one lighter shine

also made the material a bit less rough so the light would bounce more

[crimson tapir]

Good stuff, the model and texture looks fantastic

[hazy sky]

thanks

wish i unwrapped the rag a bit better

[crimson tapir]

Yeah I get that, if there's one thing I hope AI gets used for in the future it's finding ideal ways to unwrap models

[hazy sky]

yeah some sort of automatic unwrapping would be cool

smart UV isn't bad, it's what i used here as well

it just needs a lot of tweaking

now to test it in Godot

[hazy sky]

how the fuck do softbodies work in godot

[uncut agate]

what do you guys think the floor should be
trying to go for a rustic renaissance mansion feel

[hazy sky]

https://youtu.be/iJYvCHm3Ov4?si=OBbqHT-8CfRZhKQk&t=4

put white marble with black patterns

AND lay down red carpets

but this is more victorian

otherwise consult RE4 Remake for proper renaissance castle/mansion feel

[uncut agate]

like this?

[hazy sky]

a bit too basic

[uncut agate]

im using da vinci's studio as reference

trying to do this

[hazy sky]

wanted to say do caramel-white colors and black tiles can be used as variation

you may need to create a tilemap

[azure flume]

i mean godot physics dont work in general

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJX_3FNISkw

wait till this is implemented into jolt and install jolt

[hazy sky]

i hate it

[uncut agate]

i feel like i should also change the walls into this type of wall but i cant emulate it well

[uncut agate]

failed at making the floor colors right

[hazy sky]

why

also keep in mind that these tiles only look like this because of the warm light

desaturate your tiles a bit and let the in-game light do it's wonder

[uncut agate]

ok now i like it

[hazy sky]

that's better

[uncut agate]

i have a feelking that if i render it like this it'll be seamless

my eyes

they burn

[hazy sky]

mfer you aren't supposed to tile it like that

either make trimsheets or tilemaps

[hazy sky]

also if i were you i'd make the tiles a bit bigger, or make better distinguishing between each tile so your eyes aren't so overwhelmed

but what i would do is create at least a few different textures like for the corners, a straight one that i can rotate where needed and one without the side trims for the middle

optionally one where the tiles are in a different order or variations like cracks in the tiles or something

and then divide the floor into quads so i can arrange the textures like sprite sheet

[uncut agate]

maybe limiting the materials

[hazy sky]

what program is that tho

[uncut agate]

blender

also i think a sort of cross color could work

but then again it looks like a picnic blanket

[uncut agate]

this is kinda worse

it looks more like carpet than tile

🤢

[pure jackal]

Get some texture in that grot

[uncut agate]

trying to do this

[pure jackal]

Yea you need some grode in that grot

[oblique lotus]

the grout will stand out more if your tiles have more saturation

(and even more with n/s or pbr mats)

[azure flume]

if this is your goal, your colours change way too much

[uncut agate]

what do you mean by grode

[oblique lotus]

grit, noise

[uncut agate]

each texture has noise

[inner shuttle]

am back with updat

[crimson tapir]

Bro your graphics are genuinely so good

[oblique lotus]

i likey esplodeing

[inner shuttle]

also unpalettized ver

[crimson tapir]

What does palettizing mean (genuine graphicslet brain)

[inner shuttle]

color depth

above image has less total colors

below image has more total colors

[crimson tapir]

gotcha

[inner shuttle]

also i got basically almost 1:1 quake movement here

[crimson tapir]

Nice

I had that at one point but kinda theseus shipped it into something else

[wraith beacon]

Messing around with Mosa Lina's level editor, designing levels for this game is uhhhhhhhh, hard. But also fun.

[crimson tapir]

That's
Not
150

Why
Are
You
Like
This
Godot

global_rotation does the same thing

[inner shuttle]

have u heard of

radians

[crimson tapir]

Dammit

[inner shuttle]

also some more art fun stuff :3

[crimson tapir]

The allergy congestion brain rot is real

[inner shuttle]

i was listening to some music and this came to me

[crimson tapir]

Nope, still busted converted to rads

[crimson tapir]

Looks a tad warm

What kind of music?

So when converted to rads it goes to about -59 degrees, 90 - 150 + 1 *<--( for 0 degrees probably?) *, it's still refusing to go over/under 90 degrees in either direction

This only started after I parented the camera under a subviewport, does that restrict rotation? It doesn't say anything about that in the documentation

I can rotate the camera over 90 in the inspector and it stay like that when the game starts, what gives?

It has no issue spinning all the way around on the y axis

Wha-

It just randomly started working

I didn't change any code at all...

Why does it work now I didn't change anything...

Well, it is what it is I guess, it seems to be consistiently working now

[inner shuttle]

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=-mZY5Jtjjl4

@crimson tapir this

[crimson tapir]

Isn't that the guy who made a bunch of Minecraft's music?

Also the look rotation just kind of works now I guess, so I'm just not going to worry about it anymore

I think that's enough coding for tonight

[inner shuttle]

yeag

also i made color more colorful

[hazy sky]

dusk

[hazy sky]

HL2 air exchange

[hazy sky]

what

you draw in blender?

[uncut agate]

No it's a 3d model

[hazy sky]

like I said, you need something to break the pattern, not introduce even more pattern

for tiles you need everything you can get to break repetition, let it be carpets or anything

[uncut agate]

I make my textures by rendering a 500x500 image then scaling it down to 64x64 and dither it

[crimson tapir]

Why 500x500?

[hazy sky]

that's an odd ratio

go for 512x512

[crimson tapir]

Usually you use powers of 2

[hazy sky]

yea

[hazy sky]

mfer Godot sometimes doesn't save shit, if something doesn't work, save all your scenes and restart the editor

worst case scenario it won't do anything, but this can save some headaches

[muted stirrup]

https://fxtwitter.com/GameDevKS/status/1737845602594287665

[uncut agate]

honestly i think a wood floor would work

adding cracks in the wood rn

[uncut agate]

i actually like it

[crimson tapir]

Finnished adding full controller analog support

The only additional bandwidth overhead is a single vector2 that stores the action strength of the analog stick

[uncut agate]

lowered the color on the lighter boards

[crimson tapir]

I think you could get the tile to look good if you just made the colors more homogenous and gave them a bit of a glossier, beveled look

[uncut agate]

decided to add frames

im thinking of putting one of Da Vinci's paintings up there
but which one should i chose

perfect

[crimson tapir]

You should make a stylized version of the last supper using characters that look like the ones in your game

[uncut agate]

there's a painting of this lady in medievil
not really stylized

[half halo]

does masqurade divinty no longer work?

[crimson tapir]

#ultrakill-modding

This channel really should be moved to the modders basement group

[inner shuttle]

some more rough light testing

I have a pretty cool idea for this place and I'll be expanding on it soon-ish

[uncut agate]

underwater temple

better yet
underwater greek pantheon

[inner shuttle]

nope

[uncut agate]

just spitting

[crimson tapir]

Underwater movie theatre entrance
(When I first looked at the pic that was my first thought)

[inner shuttle]

it's a giant lavish penthouse of a CEO atop a skyscraper

[uncut agate]

https://tenor.com/view/what-is-wrong-with-you-why-are-you-blue-what-is-wrong-with-you-why-are-you-blue-brba-breaking-bad-gif-26777019

[inner shuttle]

the white stuff is going to be imitation marble with like, statues of Atlas carved between each pillar

[crimson tapir]

Cuz if he was green he would die

[uncut agate]

like i said
looks like a pantheon for a greek god

[inner shuttle]

With fake plastic grass patches and concrete slab walkways

spanning several floors with an open design

it's like, meant to be the pinnacle of vanity

[crimson tapir]

Needs to have fountains, several of them

[inner shuttle]

oh absolutely

it'll look roughly like (lemme pull up refs)

like that's the structural idea

the idea is to contrast that with the more bleak and heavy industrial areas to show that while the average population inhales smog, develops black lung and works 18 hours a day in a factory, the pinnacle of society spends their unearned money on vanity housing that takes up 20 times more space than they dedicate to a communal sleeping area for the workers below

[inner shuttle]

also this gave me the idea to dump like 10 pools in that level, thank you

like the fancy curved pools

[uncut agate]

i really like this design
yet it looks more japanese than italian

[uncut agate]

im thinking i should replace it

something like this

but i want them to be windows
so i dont model the outside

since it would be to much triangles

[unique trellis]

school assignment, needed to be a for loop

[crimson tapir]

Ah, ok, seems like you got it figured out tho

int len = sizeof(nums) / sizeof(nums[0]);
for( int i = 0; i< len; i += 1)
{
if (!nums[i] ) return i;
}
return -1;

[verbal marten]

Anybody know any nauseating/confusing/generally weird DOOM mods? Working on an amazing Modpack, so far I have ROOL, DOOM 1 Contorted, Megabounce, and Seizure 1.

[crimson tapir]

I guess there's HDOOM, depending on how I choose to interpret that question

[uncut agate]

one gif

https://tenor.com/view/our-house-in-the-middle-of-our-house-gif-20615176

[uncut agate]

honestly this is better

now how to blend the colors together

[uncut agate]

made a song for it

[hazy sky]

quake 2 ps1

[hazy sky]

this is weird

[uncut agate]

what do you think i could do instead?

[hazy sky]

improve

i don't know about italian patios like that

more like gazebo

but if you want something like that, consider the following

hexagon shape

round top/point

[uncut agate]

hm

[hazy sky]

mfer these are italian, not that greek-ish shid you put up there

[uncut agate]

im gonna change the roof

[hazy sky]

why is it black

[uncut agate]

its a transparent texture

[hazy sky]

you can turn on transparency in blender

in the material settings either set it to alpha cut-out or alpha blend or alpha hash

but this still feels something you'd find in greece

[uncut agate]

it looks like that area in god of war 3

[hazy sky]

guess where god of war 3 played

[crimson tapir]

Ok, idk shit about architecture, but from the google images I saw when I looked up "Italian Renaissance" architecture, I can see they are maximalist as hell

And really seem to like circular windows

[uncut agate]

i do know of the florence cathedral

im puting it in there

the renaissance isle is ment to have 2 areas
da vinci's workshop and florence

[hazy sky]

italians sure fucking like their filigree

[crimson tapir]

Maybe make the arches on the tops of the pillars less smooth

[hazy sky]

look at assassins creed 2 for reference

[uncut agate]

i was really trying to do something more like gru's living room sort of
so i don't have to model an outside

[crimson tapir]

Well they have the advantage of glass windows which you could reasonably make cloudy or blury to obscure an outised, yours just goes straight to outside

[hazy sky]

you could just put a skydome outside

you don't always have to model everything

you could just put an overly stylized exterior image out there curved around the gazebo

gives a bit more depth

then again i don't really want to dictate your art direction

[crimson tapir]

Or cheat a bit with geography and have that building be on the edge of a cliff or something with the windows looking outward to a view of the skybox outside

[uncut agate]

WAIT

I HAVE AN IDEA

i put an area that leads to the outside, but all you can see is the sky

[crimson tapir]

Oh, or you know what you could do, have an empty easel in front of a door to outside so when entering the room it looks like the sky is a painting sitting on an easel, cuz you're going for the whole painting theme

Actually, that might only work in first person

[uncut agate]

your inside the painting of the renaissance isles
so a painting leading to the outside of the room doesnt really make sense for me

[hazy sky]

i'm going to put you into the painting of the renaissance isles

[uncut agate]

https://tenor.com/view/krusty-krab-mr-krabs-kick-out-go-away-throw-gif-16884288

[uncut agate]

something basic right now but i like it

[verbal marten]

You interpreted it in an entirely wrong way

[verbal marten]

oh no

[uncut agate]

https://tenor.com/view/animation-gif-20229005

[verbal marten]

NO NO NO WAIT WAIT WAIT

[uncut agate]

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

[inner shuttle]

did you even want funny stair detection in your godot videogame? introducing this one function

private void _HandleStairDetection(Vector3 inputDirection,
                                   float speedThreshold = 1.5f,
                                   float angleThreshold = 0.5f) {
  var delta = GetPhysicsProcessDeltaTime();
  var collision = new KinematicCollision3D();
  var length = Velocity.Length();
  var control = length > speedThreshold ? length : speedThreshold;

  var motion = inputDirection * control * (float)delta;
  // Virtually move the player by a single frame of input to see if a stair
  // collision would occur
  var stairFound = TestMove(GlobalTransform, motion, collision, default, true);

  if (!stairFound)
    return;

  var (collisionPosition, index) =
      Enumerable.Range(0, collision.GetCollisionCount())
          .Select(idx => (position: collision.GetPosition(idx), index: idx))
          .MaxBy(col => col.position.Y);

  // if it's not angled like a stair, it's not a stair
  // hint: stairs are usually perpendicular to the way you're going
  var hasStairAngle =
      Mathf.Abs(collision.GetAngle(index) - Mathf.DegToRad(90)) <
      Mathf.DegToRad(angleThreshold);
  if (!hasStairAngle)
    return;

  FloorSnapLength = 0.0f;
  GlobalPosition = collisionPosition;
}

works in any 4.x version of Godot

(does not handle camera smoothing)

[crimson tapir]

You put your return on the next line down for "if(cond) return" statements but leave the opening curly bracket on the end of the line?

[uncut agate]

that looks a bit better

[candid dawn]

@indigo olive blast from the past #general-modding message

whod have guessed 3 years later we'd have launched the games and have crossover content!

[indigo olive]

Oh wow!!!

[indigo olive]

Time flies like wild, Honestly it's insane how far everyone in that thread has come ❤️

[candid dawn]

time does move shockingly fast

but glad our projects both worked out

and cheers to any future ones!

[uncut agate]

what do you think so far?

[inner shuttle]

got the funny test shotgun that a friend made for this in the game

[uncut agate]

one question about your game-
i know you're using godot, but i was wondering how you managed to get your camera to tilt when you move.
one of my old games i was working on didn't have it, and i never found out how to do it

[inner shuttle]

simple

camera rotation that's gameplay relevant is done by camera

camera rotation and movement that's for aesthetics is done by a parent node

[uncut agate]

hm

noted

[inner shuttle]

that way the non-essential camera logic can be easily decoupled from the essential stuff

more wacky adventures with paletization

:3

[inner shuttle]

look at it schmov

[fast vault]

Is TestMove a built-in function?

[fast vault]

Wait a minute! I recognize that shotgun model. I think I saw someone making it in CV11's discord

[inner shuttle]

oh cool! yeah she shared it in a few places (LWMedia too iirc)

[inner shuttle]

it is!

very useful stuff

[uncut agate]

you can kinda see it, but i added stones to the walls instead of it just being marble

[uncut agate]

although
feels off still

trying to do this sort of

[inner shuttle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1018485558525296713/1187930128454533180/2023-12-23_01-33-29.mp4?ex=6598ad25&is=65863825&hm=3353ccf0d2c79727b3724b48092bc6e997579457fd840c3bc382447062f880eb&

tweaked my grenades

now you can walk and toss them

to get upwards+planar boost

[hazy sky]

rustic sure but not too italian

you are essentially brute forcing textures together with no transitions or details whatsoever

with very high contrast at that

if you want italian, you better put trims on your trims

[hazy sky]

paintball peppergun

[hazy sky]

here you can literally even see what i'm saying

trims on the fucking trims man, everything has filigree

you are missing exactly that

but like i said before, i'm not trying to dictate your art style, you do whatever makes you happy and if you see if there are things you could improve, improve them

[uncut agate]

Goddammit my brain forgot about using curves to make filigree
I forgot that was an option

[hazy sky]

and trims

[muted stirrup]

https://fxtwitter.com/GameDevKS/status/1738552797216301230 this coming along nicely 👀

[uncut agate]

fucking around with curves to make filigree

[hazy sky]

yea

[uncut agate]

oddly looks like cream

[uncut agate]

but what else should i add to it

[hazy sky]

the rest of the texture

look up some cool ass trims and try making them

[pure jackal]

Yeye
Use up that glorious wasted space

[stiff thorn]

Anybody got tips for matching blender and godot's camera for animations?

[crimson tapir]

Oh yeah, you still developing NB Kart?

[azure flume]

If you think you are bad at this, look at these wonderful bulletholes on my water!

[merry lotus]

i don't think i've posted this here yet but here's progress on a game i'm making using Java and LWJGL

it uses the .bsp format for levels which I couldn't have done without zombie's help

it's very early in development but the features i have so far are a working dev console using Dear ImGui, bsp maps, raycasts, collision detection + response using the GJK + EPA algorithms, and a DebugDraw class for drawing lines for debugging

i mainly posted about this in #1054772705867608115 but i think that it's starting to learn more towards the gamedev side so i'm gonna post it in here more often

[crimson tapir]

Dude, that's awesome

[fast vault]

Always impressive to see engines built from scratch

[uncut agate]

how could i make a badass guy for my game

[inner shuttle]

how badass are we talking on a scale from 1 to 10

[uncut agate]

like
go back in time to beat the shit out of god badass

-with an arm that can shoot laser beams

like iron man

[uncut agate]

like this

[fast vault]

https://tenor.com/view/god-of-war-gif-18881787

This guy?

In the words of the original designers "The more we stripped him down, the more brutal and ferocious he seemed"

[uncut agate]

more into the future

-and more clothed
though im not saying that Kratos isn't badass

think of the postal dude or duke nukem

[inner shuttle]

postal dude isnt badass im sorry to report

[uncut agate]

hm
any other ways to make someone badass

[oblique lotus]

give them huge delts and a grimace

[crimson tapir]

Well what else do we know about this character? Where's he from? What's his role in the story?

[uncut agate]

from- no idea
role- tries to rob a meuseum, almost gets caught, uses portable time machine he finds in meuseum to get the hell out of there
goes through time to try and get back to his og time
time travels to the begining of the universe, fights god

[low forge]

are mods fixed yet?

[crimson tapir]

Ok, well if the museum has a time machine then he's got to be from the future originally

[uncut agate]

no the whole place is from the future
so think cyberpunk or blade runner atmosphere

[crimson tapir]

Yeah, so he's a future cyberpunk criminal, probably with some cybernetic implants, give him some robot legs or a giant mecha arm

[uncut agate]

an arm and leg

leg to kick

arm is blaster

[crimson tapir]

Maybe he's a veteran from some future war who's resorted to a life of crime after falling on hard time

[uncut agate]

so...

grizzled middle age man from future

something like this
(maybe some facial hair)

he looks like an adult villager from animal crossing

[inner shuttle]

or like link in every N64 game

[uncut agate]

maybe a nose change

[hazy sky]

paint cannon

[uncut agate]

no
laser beams

[hazy sky]

mfer really called postal dude badass 💀