general-modding

[crimson tapir]

Got it like 80% working

It freaks out for a bit right after the player spawns and occasionally has random bad hiccups, but seems to work well when it decides to

[crimson tapir]

Ok, I think I've cracked it

instead of comparing position on a particular tick, it compares the DISTANCE between the current position and the position on the previous tick, then it determines if you're out of line

Requires a bit more overhead, but hey, it actually works

[humble dagger]

I'm no expert on your net code or anything but this may cause a lot of stuttering across very laggy connections

That being said there's always going to be a cost

[crimson tapir]

The retraction is only sent if the server determines that the movement is outside of a given acceptable margin of error, which 999/1000 times if you're not cheating is accepted

And on the times a retraction is sent, the client gets one free tick where their movement is not judged so that the new prev_pos is in line with the retraction, to prevent a constant chain of error

Since it's comparing the distance between positions instead of differences in positions, which are calculated over a fixed interval even if you are a whole second behind, the distance between the two positions on two given contiguous ticks should still be similar (unless you're using speed cheats)

[crimson tapir]

Well, actually, I guess if your computer is SO bad that it can't keep up with the physics update rate then that could cause issues

[candid laurel]

huh

[crimson tapir]

Ok, i don't think I did a good job explaining, so here's an ms paint comic about it

(reposted for correction)

[muted stirrup]

https://fxtwitter.com/GameDevKS/status/1720795203965964311 moar boomstick gamplay

[drowsy escarp]

Does else anyone have a problem with ragdolls moving slightly on their own in godot?

[hazy imp]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gjmfo0oXOMM gameplay of a little game of mine

[pastel wharf]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gjmfo0oXOMM

[muted stirrup]

ok so i have just found out

how much of a faff ue4's 'media player' is to use

aka massive pain in the arse lol

[crimson tapir]

Not speaking from experience, but are the different parts of the ragdoll colliding with each other?

[drowsy escarp]

maybe

[crimson tapir]

Synched movement, with client prediction, set up and working SMOOTH (with at least 4 peers)

Finally, now I can develop fun stuff again

[fast vault]

Noice

[unique trellis]

Wow a bunch of techy stuff. I don't have any idea how any of this works

[azure flume]

Challenge yourself to learn.

[crimson tapir]

Replace techy with artsy and that's me, lol. Everyone's got strengths and weaknesses, always more to learn

[severe cobalt]

ok I'm developing this FPS game. Would you mind taking a look to see if it's any good?

[drowsy escarp]

Even if the colliders aren't intersecting, the ragdoll keeps fucking jittering

and when it isnt jittering it moves slightly

what the fuck do I do to fix this, the godot discord keeps ignoring me

[humble dagger]

I mean I think it looks neat but it's more about what you think looks good

[azure flume]

look into sleep settings

under project settings -> physics -> 3D

[uncut agate]

kinda feels like a mix of jazzpunk and ultrakill and i like it

[fast vault]

That's a fun style

[severe cobalt]

thank you everyone ❤️ i made some boss theme thingy too

[muted stirrup]

https://fxtwitter.com/GameDevKS/status/1721558170584088995 bang bang

[fast vault]

Sometimes you see someone's code and go hol up

[azure flume]

[pastel wharf]

can we see the make_friends function

[unique trellis]

finally got around to implement the gun animations

that also means that SSG is finally getting worked on yoooo-

[unique trellis]

okay that’s what the game currently looks like

[azure flume]

the hanging saws dont look like they can even hit you

Got to make it obvious they will saw your head off

[unique trellis]

It will be dependent on the height of the corridor
This level is just a placeholder to test out mechanics and etc

I can make the different lengths of the saws though

[drowsy escarp]

so is Jolt any good?

im using godot version 4.1.2

[fast vault]

From the tests I've seen, it seems to run better and handle more rigidbodies compared to the default physics engine.

Currently using it for fast projectiles and it's doing well

[drowsy escarp]

ah ok

[azure flume]

Jolt will be the default once 4.2 releases afaik

(maybe later idk)

[fast vault]

Hey does anyone here want a 12-month subscription for Game Maker Studio 2? I have one from a previous bundle but I don't use it

Or a key for Game Guru Classic?

[azure flume]

I'll take a key for Godot 5

[fast vault]

Here ya go:
1-800-WAITING5GODOT

[unique trellis]

Does anyone know how to change textures in ultrakill and where the sprite textures (hideous mass statue v2 minos etc) are located?

[merry lotus]

#ultrakill-modding

[drowsy escarp]

For some reason, ragdolls work fine if they were in a t-pose before the physiscs start, but if I activate a ragdoll in an idle animation it gets all weird and stiff

[crimson tapir]

Is it still trying to do the animation while ragdolling?

[drowsy escarp]

idk i assume the animation is disabled when the ragdoll is on ```@export var health = 2
@onready var skeleton = $Armature/Skeleton3D
@onready var collider = $CollisionShape3D
@onready var animator = $AnimationTree
func TakeDamage(damage):
health -= damage
print(str(damage))
if health <= 0:
Death()
func Death():
collider.disabled = true
enableRagdoll()

func _on_physical_bone_head_body_part_hit(damage):
TakeDamage(damage)
func enableRagdoll():
skeleton.physical_bones_start_simulation()```

disabling the animation tree didnt work

[azure flume]

have you tried turning the simulation off once it's more or less calmed down and re-enable it only with interactions

[drowsy escarp]

it calms down, the issue is that its all stiff

[drowsy escarp]

Here is an example of what I mean

[pure jackal]

Could the rig be fighting with the values the idle animation gives it?

[drowsy escarp]

maybe?

is it normal for the collision boxes to be in the tpose?

[crimson tapir]

It looks like you have a bunch of warnings in your hiearchy

What are those about?

[drowsy escarp]

"non uniform scale"

even though x y and z scale are 1

[crimson tapir]

Try scaling the collider shape, not the transform scale

[drowsy escarp]

wait nvm its the body offset

[long leaf]

Got my gdextension module loaded in
got dynamic game loading from server now
we're GAMING

[azure flume]

Feels good when stuff finally works!

[summer arrow]

looks fucking awsome

[long leaf]

WE'RE WINNING

pretty sure this is just program development but it's mostly in godot so I get to put it here

[unique trellis]

progress check woohoo

• Shotgun Jump was given to SSG
• PDS will now aim down your bodyparts after your death.
• SSG is added!
• Shell casings in progress.
• Fixed Ground Slam camera.
• Added muzzle/reload animations.

sorry for the shitty crop

• Oh and also camera zones yeah

[long leaf]

hey this is really similar to a game I worked on for a bit before canning it

I wish you the best of luck

[unique trellis]

really? what was the game? :o

[long leaf]

#general-modding message this was as far as I got

first game I tried making myself, way too ambitious and the code was spagetti

[unique trellis]

oh i see
my game is on construct 2 tho, because i hate myself and i don't really understand code yet

[long leaf]

but the idea in my head is pretty much that

[unique trellis]

currently i am working on the third common enemy out of fourth

the first mutant to be introduced

(the enemies are split into mutants and machines)

[crimson tapir]

Is there a way to store and represent an object's rotation as a vector3 in godot?

[azure flume]

Of course

You can store pretty much any 3 numbers as vector3 and then use .x .y .z to extract those values

[crimson tapir]

Look at him go

(There's no visual indication of it yet, but he's sliding when he glides up and down the quarter pipe)

Also been doing some documentation and brain storming lately, I have 6 solid map ideas drawn out ( 3 more liquid ones ), 11 selectable character ideas ( want to come up with 1 more ) and 8 game modes that meet the criteria of "can work on any map with an indeterminate number of teams"

For the 12th character I wanted to make it an odd ball inclusion like the cart dog in Dusk World or Orbb in Quake 3, but an upright polar bear running around might be a bit too wacky for this world and setting

[fast vault]

Back in Blender to add some new attacks to the Siren enemy

[cloud bloom]

Thats sick

[fast vault]

Thanks

[muted stirrup]

boom

(for some reason it looped - thanx discord)

[torpid oak]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1090416140821463161/1172109341248204860/image.png?ex=655f1ee3&is=654ca9e3&hm=56148758302c3f30593288a9d45dfc90934edbd0b7901ae220ea067a86998977&
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1090416140821463161/1172109341596327976/image.png?ex=655f1ee3&is=654ca9e3&hm=41b070ca9e9be6d0213b90915a7c321bb916f69c54d6762098a9ed6335f61bdd&
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1090416140821463161/1172109341915107348/image.png?ex=655f1ee3&is=654ca9e3&hm=6e5419a1a9eae65e1fb1f7749e5e8ce072209d8bd65ef12d91e34806d2dabf0a&
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1090416140821463161/1172109342284197988/image.png?ex=655f1ee3&is=654ca9e3&hm=c0533cbd786c4c53aa2c2508b3f898295dd49f99616653095e94b6517f680f59&
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1090416140821463161/1172109315826528266/image.png?ex=655f1edd&is=654ca9dd&hm=5f2fc2f1c84b318f9786e24222205c82efff473ad9294d0745ee892ccce26966&

[humble dagger]

I love the aesthetic!

What project is this?

[torpid oak]

my horror game Im making

currently making a new area inside a big tunnel leading to a sewer system

[humble dagger]

It looks great

[azure flume]

Yay, +1 to the sewer count!

[crimson tapir]

Bit of concept art for the title screen

( My phone camera is really poor quality )

Also, I think it would be neat to have a Deep Rock Galactic esc hub world of a base camp ski village type place where you physically get onto a ski lift in order to join a server, or walk into a shop to customize your character

(Because I hate doing UI lmao)]

[pastel wharf]

DRG's lobby isnt only fun to mess around in but it also complements the social aspect of the game

You can interact with other players in many ways

and just existing in the same space is good enough to fuel some fun

Not sure what your game is supposed to be but this kind of stuff can be challenging

since if not done right, you just make it a slog to go from menu to menu

[azure flume]

Does anyone know of a tool that I can enter a direction and an angle and it poops out the correct normalmap colour for that?

this doesn't quite cut it and the full rgb sphere is impossible to get accurate values from for manual painting

[vague sundial]

Gives me Post Void vibes, looks cool!

[crimson tapir]

Thank you for the advice, this is a rough sketch of my idea:

I designed it so that if the player just wants to play the game, all they need to do is walk straight forward to the ski lift, where they will then be able to join a server and play

I also tried to make it so the stuff the player would be more likely to look for is closer, with an entrance to the character customization shop having an entrance right to the left of where the player spawns, and something like the practice range gym or the statue where you can read your stats, a bit further away

[severe cobalt]

level design thingy

[pastel wharf]

Very noice

[uncut remnant]

HL1 shotgun (with automatic mode) Doom mod

[crimson tapir]

Today I improved the sledding mechanic by giving the player the ability to steer, brake, and lean

I've been having trouble coming up with ways for the player to have more sled control ( before there was 0 steering, just your initial velocity and any gained momentum from slopes ). because I wanted the player to still be able to turn the camera 360 degrees while still maintaining their same velocity direction. That way, say a player is chasing you, you can hop on the sled, turn around and shoot, while still moving in the same direction. So I implemented tank controls while sledding where holding A or D rotates the character and direction. Holding S now slows the player down, and holding W causes the player to "lean". You don't gain any velocity from leaning, but it makes it so you gain/lose 25% more velocity from slopes

[uncut agate]

jesus that is spooky

[torpid oak]

did some heavy work on the tunnel I was making

Im way more happy with this

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1171874862172749925/1172248301685452902/image.png?ex=655fa04e&is=654d2b4e&hm=f1eef79437818ac658bbded504dfb9e4e60d614ac6f7f15654ad3f2bf013f7d1&
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1171874862172749925/1172248345687904346/inside-the-archives-of-melbournes-infamous-cave-clan-893-1474251588.png?ex=655fa058&is=654d2b58&hm=010aba5040d88211883091ef663492fb10f40f4fd76530b2291387aa6b3d3287&

referenced these 2 pics

[fallow kernel]

Not done yet, but I think the vortex thingy looks good.

[severe cobalt]

looking awesome

[fallow kernel]

Thanks! I have put a good bit of effort into this guy so far. Working while sick isn't easy, but I am making it through.

[marble dust]

Great work! Make sure to take breaks

[fallow kernel]

On the opposite end of the spectrum: The attack that makes you stay still.

This attack will track the direction you are moving and make sure to teleport infront of you during its final teleport, just to make sure it hits you. If you stand still however, you can dodge it really easily. I love it when enemies make the player overthink things.

[muted stirrup]

https://fxtwitter.com/GameDevKS/status/1723324240424784208 changing it up a bit 👀

[torpid oak]

had to clean up UVs cause they were rotated and shit which caused lighting errors, now its looking goood. Some UVS are warped but it doesnt matter cause Im using world aligned textures for this particular area so it wont matter for anything except lighting

[severe cobalt]

lookin good

[torpid oak]

suprisingly this had so many lightmap issues because of UVs it took me all this time (-dinner time) to fix it but now its finally good again

[pastel wharf]

This looks very fun and ive been very enticed by the vids u post here, do you happen to have a yt where you post em all?

[fast vault]

I do like the toned-down lights in here. The neon sometimes gets a bit hard on the eyes

[uncut remnant]

where the fuck did you get a picture of my house

[drowsy escarp]

Animation to ragdoll transition

(IE: Blended ragdolls)

[severe cobalt]

I already have a YouTube channel where I upload devlogs (However the language of the videos is not English)

[crimson tapir]

Godot
Please
Just let me rotate the character forward around it's own local x axis

[severe cobalt]

https://vxtwitter.com/Intothevoidgame/status/1723603662881366503?s=20

[junior bluff]

leveled

[severe cobalt]

is that ultrakill

[severe cobalt]

insert Into the Fire combat music now

[uncut agate]

added a wooden border to make it easier to get to other areas

[crimson tapir]

This is driving me insane, this should not be this difficult

just

rotate

forwards

[uncut agate]

code is a pain in the ass
ive dealt with it before

[crimson tapir]

It's just because the way godot handles rotations and such is so weird, I had 0 problem getting this done in Unity

In theory, this function is supposed to rotate an object X radians around a given local axis, in this case the local x axist, but it just isn't doing that

It does it while facing one direction fine, but then in orther directions it doesn't turn at all, or turns 90 degrees and just stops

Wait, nvm, I just forgot to multiply delta

whoops

Nope, it's still not rotating while facing other orientations, still sucks

And just stops after 90 degrees in other directions

[uncut agate]

still need to figure out what the design of the town after this island should be

[crimson tapir]

What kind of town is it? A farming town? A Harbor town?

Ok, after further investigation, the problem is NOT with the rotation code, that works fine, it's the ramps

The way trick ramps work is with an area 3d and if you are sliding and press space while in one it puts you into trick mode, however once you touch the ground you go back to normal. The problem was some of the ramps you would do the trick then imediately touch the ramp again, making you exit trick mode

[drowsy escarp]

So can area3d detect csg colliders?

cause I thought of using an area3d for my blended ragdolls to check for a nearby surface

[crimson tapir]

No, the character also has a 3d area attached to it

[uncut agate]

...both?

[crimson tapir]

Terrace farming is pretty neat, maybe have something like that?

[uncut agate]

idk about putting a huge ass island here

makes the others feel off

[uncut agate]

hmmm
on second thought
maybe the hub shouldn't be really platform based

[fallow kernel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXd6V9lrMus This is not complete, and will be receiving tweaks for the sake of balancing, but phase 1 and 2 are done!

There are also some attack variants not shown here, but that is just a part of the boss being fully randomized.

[crimson tapir]

Oh this is a hub world? What kind of game is this?

[uncut agate]

Cross between spyro and medievil

[crimson tapir]

Oh yeah, you're working on the paint brush wizard game, forgot that was you cuz you changed your pfp, lol

[drowsy escarp]

Anyone else have an issue where hitboxes dont move with enemy animation?

[pure jackal]

Is root motion in play

Alternatively

What is the hitbox tied to

Try tying it to a bone and see if it moves then

[drowsy escarp]

no, root motion is not, the hitbox is attacked to the physical bones

even if i do use root motion it doesnt do shit

[azure flume]

Are you using boneattachment3d nodes to connect them?

[drowsy escarp]

no

but why do physical bones have colliders to begin with if they just fuck up anyway?

this didnt happen with the ragdoll

So what the fuck is going on?

[azure flume]

Just godot things

[fast vault]

Hopefully Godot's 3D skeletal system improves in the future. It's a bit buggy atm

[drowsy escarp]

Yeah cause this is bullshit

(i love godot but thats annoying)

https://youtu.be/6bbPHsB9TtI

found this

[long leaf]

aren't you supposed to use quaternions or something

[crimson tapir]

Nah, it's cool, I got it sorted

Might need to shorten the raycast that detects the ground normal though, cause of that one oddity when after jumping off the top of the quarter pipe it lerpt its rotation to it

Actually, having the rotation work like this is probably too disorienting for a shooter, maybe it should just be the model and hitbox that changes oritentation

[crimson tapir]

Idk, I'm really not sure what to do with the player rotation on slopes

It;s not as bad after turning doen the lerp speed a bit, but it's still really hard to aim while sledding on inclines

Maybe if the rotation returns to normal while airborne after a few ticks, it wouldn't be so bad

Or just don't rotate the player at all and use inverse kinematics for the angle of the board

That way the player's head, and therefore camera, always stay upright, avoiding the problem entirely

[azure flume]

There is a very good reason why all those skateboarding videogames are in third person

[crimson tapir]

Yeah, but at the end of the day, this is still supposed to be a multiplayer arena shooter, so I guess going with the option that screws with the camera the least will always be the best

[fast vault]

This would probably be the least headache inducing

[uncut agate]

one more thing, im thinking of a skybox redo, what do you recommend? something like scarecrow fields from the ps4 version of medievil?

i honestly like this

[crimson tapir]

Maybe make it look like the clouds and sky are painted on, kind of

Kind of like the sky is one of those cathedral celing murals

Scarecrow fields has a cloudy sky with several different shades of orange-ish brown in the clouds that overlap each other, you could incorporate that pretty naturally with the art/painter theme by making the clouds look more like brush strokes

Kinda like this

How you would actually do that, idk, I'm a programmer, but I'm sure someone else here would know

[pure jackal]

shaders

how?

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[uncut agate]

further question: i have no idea how i would do that

[merry lotus]

learn

[uncut agate]

got something

[hollow marten]

a

[muted stirrup]

https://fxtwitter.com/GameDevKS/status/1724032413574037958 👀

[uncut agate]

the clouds look like a fractal

so i changed it

[crimson tapir]

Neat, although I don't know if such smooth looking clouds would look natural against your low poly environments

Also, does anyone know if godot has an equivelant to Unity's overlapsphere?

[crimson tapir]

Got it figured out and added blast jumping with the snowballs

Comboing the blast jumping with the sledding leads to some pretty insane movement tech

[crimson tapir]

Wait hold on

I just got an idea, lemme see if this works

[crimson tapir]

I made it so that the explosions count as trick zones letting you do tricks off of your own explosions

Fun as it is, I think that might be a bit too broken, lol

[azure flume]

Never remove fun from a game because it might seem a bit broken

huge mistake

If anything, make it harder to pull off, rise the skill ceiling

All the other stuff you have has been done before, but rocket jumping in a skateboarding game is something fresh

[crimson tapir]

Alright, a the very minimum I could still keep it as an optional mutator server hosts can enable. I won't scrap it

[fast vault]

ha that looks awesome

[azure flume]

Why are you posting video game reccommendations in a modding channel?

[stoic smelt]

Ohhh uh yha your right

Sorry

I will delete it

[drowsy escarp]

Ever since i replaced the physical bones with bone attachments, these fucking errors keep showing up every time i open godot

[crimson tapir]

Ok, so I've reworked the trick-blast jumping, and tweaked it some so that it's less OP

Firstly, you take half as much knockback if you are sliding, so you don't get the same height as a normal blast jump, that way you kind of have to trick off of a elevated spot or else you won't have enough height complete the trick and wipeout

Secondly, You have to have been sliding on the ground and blast jumped while still sliding in order to do the trick, so you can't jump, press shift midair and then do a trick off of you blast jump, you have to have been sliding on the ground and then jumped

Lastly, you now lose velocity if you screw up a trick, meaning you can't just fail a bunch of tricks untill you get one to blast forwards

So now the sliding blast jumps are more of a side grade than a straight upgrade over regular blast jumps

Regular blast jumps for distance or height, and slide blast for speed

Also I fixed it so that it uses the players basis.x as the axis instead of the cross product of velocity and global up, which is why the flip angle seemed slightly off in the last vid I posted

[vivid lichen]

https://on.soundcloud.com/n21TBqkMzMy9zWAE7

[drowsy escarp]

Yeah these fucking errors show up everytime i use a bone attachment

How do i get rid of them?

Does anyone else have this issue?

the godot discord isnt telling me shit

[humble dagger]

Stuff like this is why I bailed on godot

Hope you figure it out soon

[granite tusk]

I'd try reopening / reimporting each part

sometimes it regenerates references between objects or smthg

If the issue doesn't come from your own code, idk about those signals.

[drowsy escarp]

I didn’t code anything for the bone attachments

I didn’t make the signals either

[drowsy escarp]

so what the fuck is happening?

these are the errors Attempt to disconnect a nonexistent connection from 'Skeleton3D:<Skeleton3D#1898996364746>'. Signal: 'bone_pose_changed', callable: 'BoneAttachment3D::on_bone_pose_update'. Signal 'bone_pose_changed' is already connected to given callable 'BoneAttachment3D::on_bone_pose_update' in that object.

[fast vault]

Is the game running fine?

[drowsy escarp]

yes, i just want the errors to fuck off

[fast vault]

I recall having a similar error in my project, and when I asked people on the discord, they said "Oh that's just an internal Godot bug."

so I just kinda ignored it since it didn't seem to be affecting anything

maybe there'll be a fix for it in a future update, idk

[granite tusk]

Easy fix

(i'm joking)

[azure flume]

Are shapecasts supposed to move around when they collide with stuff? :S

is godot stupid?

[crimson tapir]

Move around? I don't think so

[azure flume]

Well, they are moving!

[broken trout]

anyone have tips for making a mesh sphere collidable to the player in godot?

[broken trout]

jesus thats alot of bones

[crimson tapir]

I've tried to do that before, what I did was have it itterate through every collider that is touching the side of the player and add force to the objects rigidbody, and it kind of worked, but if you walk on top of the ball it flings you into the stratosphere

[broken trout]

im sorry im a beginner so im brain ded lol

[crimson tapir]

There's definitely a better way to do it, I jusyt haven't gotten around to it yet

[broken trout]

im running it on my chromebook

[broken trout]

would you have any tips making a rig or a bean becuase i cant figure it out

[crimson tapir]

Just like a capsule?

[broken trout]

yeah

[crimson tapir]

Add a "mesh instance 3d" node to your player and for shape select "capsule"

[broken trout]

ok

[broken trout]

so do i add a polygon collider to that or a diffrent collider to it?

[crimson tapir]

Collision Shape 3d node

[broken trout]

thanks

[crimson tapir]

Yeah, np

[broken trout]

i added a area 3d node too

would that affect

[crimson tapir]

Shouldn't, that can be good if you need to check if you player is in a certain area or overlapping with a pickup of some kind

[broken trout]

i make the collsion shape 3d a child of the ara node

[crimson tapir]

I don't think you need to do that, just leave the collider as a child of the root

[broken trout]

though its telling me to make the collsion shape uniform

[crimson tapir]

When you make the shape of a collider, set its dimensions in the shape, not the transform

[broken trout]

ok

[drowsy escarp]

should i update to godot version 4.1.3?

[azure flume]

Does it have a feature you need?

[junior bluff]

You probably should anyway yeah

[drowsy escarp]

just did, fixed the error issue

[muted stirrup]

https://fxtwitter.com/GameDevKS/status/1725517807943635124

[fast vault]

I can't believe it took me this long to realize that I could animate cameras in Blender for fps animations. And that I could just use virtual cameras on each prefab to smoothly switch between them...

[fallow kernel]

I made this effect forever ago, but I am still proud of it (it was polished further later.)

[crimson tapir]

Another movement demo, this time with the fixed blast tricking + a rotation counter

[azure flume]

those spins go so fast you need some of that instant replay slo-mo action

[crimson tapir]

Maybe down the line I could add some kind of replay feature like the one Tf2 has, and add a slow-mo feature to replays

This was also the first clip where I sucsessfully landed a double flip

[azure flume]

But seriously, I'd slow the spins down a bit, I don't know if you researched real life footage or anything, but this seems unrealistically fast.

And disorienting

[crimson tapir]

Yeah, maybe they could stand to be a bit slower, I'll experiment with it a bit

[fast vault]

Maybe give your player some more air time during spins so you don't have to worry about them landing too fast

[pastel wharf]

Achieve flight by getting some sick flips

[crimson tapir]

Maybe I should just make it like how flips work in dusk

My concern was with players cranking up their sens to do a million flips before landing, but I guess if the speed boost is only dependant on land angle and if you did some kind of trick at all, then it wouldn't matter

[severe cobalt]

also you can find secrets here

[fallow kernel]

Those enemies really wanna slap you.

[crimson tapir]

I've got a primitive form of the mouse controlled trick system set up, and it works decently well right now, I think this is what I will go forward with

It also frees up the directional keys to be used for different grabs and stuff while in the air

Although a problem has been presented with it

If the player is already looking at the ground when they start the trick, then their rotation is already at like 90 degrees, because the body rotation has to match the camera rotation for landing correctly

In Dusk, this is a non issue because if you land right on your head, nothing happens, you just get back up and keep moving, but in snowdown landing the tricks correctly is part of the movement tech

[crimson tapir]

Visual for what I'm talking about:

I guess I could just make the landing penalty angle more extreme so you really have to land on your head to lose any speed, with landing at 90 degrees like that just giving no bonus, and this would just have to be something players get used to?

[pliant lynx]

what game is this

[severe cobalt]

Into the void. It's a fps game in development.

[azure flume]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/420270/Into_the_Void/ you sure about that?

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[spare scarab]

i confused that with post void tbh

[azure flume]

Void Mortem

greek rap group lol

[muted stirrup]

https://fxtwitter.com/GameDevKS/status/1725939426314817562 💥

[hazy sky]

bruh it's been AGES since i've touched godot

[pure jackal]

Its the medal of honor guy

[spare scarab]

THE MEDAL OF HONOR GUY

HELL YEA

[hazy sky]

💀

that is my legacy

[pure jackal]

Hey man that medal of honor game looked really good and its been so long since we've had a medal of honor game let alone a good one

[hazy sky]

i know, i know

i've been trying really hard to get back into it but it's just too much

so i gotta take my time to re-learn everything

got a new 32 inch monitor and my first thing was trying out my demo and man it was fucking epic

crisp 144hz

[hazy sky]

not sure if i showcased the finalized shotgun model before

[crimson tapir]

Aw sweet, you're back, I remember seeing updates for this game forever ago, good to see ya again

[hazy sky]

trying my best, haven't touched the project for 4 months though

only touches i've made were like really minor ones but i think i'll get back into some development soon

[crimson tapir]

Can't wait to see it, dude

[hazy sky]

you will man, you will

but the beat em up project will benefit better from it for now

i just really need to get into animations

[rotund garden]

[severe cobalt]

Damn it

[severe cobalt]

Yep the starting point was 'post void' copy project. YCJY Approved!

[crimson tapir]

Ok, I think I got the mouse flip rotation down packed, it feels way more natural than holding a key

I kind of side stepped the problem I mentioned earlier by implementing a system where it lerps the players global x rotation to to original global x rotation of the camera while simultaneously lerping the camera's local x rotation to 0, so to the player there is no jarring transition and the body moves to match the camera

Still a few things to iron out like the degree counter not working right with the new system, but this feels a lot better to control

Immediately after sending that I landed a really cool trick where I comboed a blast jump into a rail grind into a blast jump flip that I really wish I recorded instead of a clip of me falling into the water

[severe cobalt]

love this game already

[hazy sky]

reminds me of tribes

[vivid lichen]

yo this looks like the frame of bomb ass game bro
keep up the good work
(just checking, mix of skateboarding and explosive jumping right?)

[fast vault]

What if you can get a damage multiplier by stringing tricks together?

[crimson tapir]

It's a snowball fight themed arena shooter, and the main movement tech is hopping onto a snowboard by holding shift

[crimson tapir]

Idk, it is possible to land a flip on flat ground now so theoretically if that was the case someone could just do a bunch of flips then have extra damage for basically free

I think ideally movement should only impact movement

[crimson tapir]

I need to try that game eventually, every once in a while I hear it mentioned and intend to play it but then forget, lol

[crimson tapir]

Thanks, glad you like it

[azure flume]

is tribes even alive any more?

[granite tusk]

I'm doing a automap for some 3D dungeon crawler and I think it has all the features I want atm.

You see current layer objects and where you are, you can check other layers, leave notes, edit and delete them, and save them.

I still have to skin it to make it more readable and pretty, but I consider it done 😤

[vivid lichen]

that's incredible

[toxic hemlock]

spent way too fucking long making this chaingun

[azure flume]

Looks beautiful!

[hazy sky]

doom 64 chaingun?

[hazy sky]

of course not silly

why would it be

[azure flume]

Eon intends to play it

[hazy sky]

finally figured out a way to swap out moves on the go

unfortunately that's the only three animations i have besides the walk and run cycle

now i need to make a combo system where it chains these moves together

[hazy sky]

mario 64

[uncut agate]

i was thinking more of medievil

[hazy sky]

medievil had nicely blended textures and round cute geometry

the texture work on medievil is really nice,,

[uncut agate]

didn't really know how to emulate that

[hazy sky]

i love that stylized ps1 look

[uncut agate]

plus i even have the models of the levels (textures included)
so i can get a full look at geometry

most of the levels have triangulated faces

im sorta inbetween two ideas for areas

its medievil + spyro

[hazy sky]

triangulation is not necessary as the engine does it for you

[uncut agate]

so hubworlds

[hazy sky]

but if you're aiming for authentic PS1 aesthetic, you should MOSTLY stick to PS1 limits

[hazy sky]

i'll be very honest with you chief

why are the polycounts this vastly different?

[uncut agate]

aw damnit

just found out

[hazy sky]

it's not a bad thing but it helps a lot if you have a certain pattern

[uncut agate]

all of it together is about 40k faces :')

[hazy sky]

you could just autosmooth and the jagged polygons won't even stick out too much

for my PS1 stuff i also go for a low poly approach, but smooth shade certain areas

[uncut agate]

how can i lower the count without ruining the whole thing

[hazy sky]

well

does it have a UV map?

[uncut agate]

mostly everything is reset to the original dimensions
so everything i supose

[hazy sky]

UV map as in texture coordinates

is it textured?

[uncut agate]

yeah

[hazy sky]

if not, you're gonna have to unwrap it anyways

otherwise you might have a bad time with reducing polycount while retaining UV's

[uncut agate]

so unwrap everything

[hazy sky]

i'd either decimate the part or go pick the edges one by one

and then dissolve them

show me a picture of the mesh faces

i wanna see the topology of that 💀

[uncut agate]

the wheats topo is abysmal i know💀

but the grass is decent

[hazy sky]

nice topo on the floor tho

perfect for a tile based texture work

[uncut agate]

yeah

[hazy sky]

a lot of PS1 titles actually used quads basically utilized the UV's to break up the texture patterns

[uncut agate]

hm

[hazy sky]

the best example of course is spyro, medal of honor and crash bandicoot

let's say there is a sidewalk texture that tiles seamlessly

and they create like 5 different variants, a sidewalk curb variant etc

[hazy sky]

you can actually see this here too

[uncut agate]

so like medievil and its textures?

[hazy sky]

exactly

plus the per-vertex lighting also really helps sell the effect

[uncut agate]

yeah

i havent used lighting yet

[hazy sky]

also this is really minor but you could vertex paint the level

you can basically draw in shadows or add in ambient occlusion to the level itself

[uncut agate]

i do that with the sky

[hazy sky]

OR, use the vertex colors to blend the textures

so you could draw a cobble path on the ground

this of course needs to be supported by the material in the game engine you're using

[uncut agate]

jesus💀

the fences are two sided to appear on both sides

[hazy sky]

bruh

well i mean if you're going for a third person game, double sided fence doesn't sound like a bad deal

[uncut agate]

yeah

platformer

based on painters, and some games that fueled my childhood

(like medievil)

you can see i was trying to emulate scarecrow fields

but not too much

[hazy sky]

i really wish blender would have an option to just visually adjust and drag the UV map vertices and not just in the UV field

a more direct way to play with textures

like in conventional map editors

[uncut agate]

yeah

when i reset the ground its a triangle

[hazy sky]

what

[hazy sky]

bruh triangulation

[uncut agate]

ignore the texture thats the top of the corn

[hazy sky]

i fucking hate triangulation

bane of all existence

[uncut agate]

you and me both

[hazy sky]

you can luckily turn tris to quads

just select the faces you want to turn into quads, right click in face select and there should be an option for it

[hazy sky]

this is good

i would however switch up the lighting a little bit

[hazy sky]

question to the people who can animate here

i imported some animations into godot and the animations seem focused on the hip bone

so if the character changes posture, they will leave the floor

now to be honest, i'm not sure if that's how they should look, coming from mixamo

but it seems like the feet aren't the root or something

[crimson tapir]

Yeaaaaahhhhhh, these textures ain't it, chief

I think I'll just need to recruit an actual artist at some point if I want this game to look presentable

This wood texture came out kind of alright though, but the seams are really obvious

[pure jackal]

Where is the origin on the model itself
Is it at the feet or at the hip

[hazy sky]

figured out i had to place a root bone at the feet

so i did that and it fixed-

i'm still trying to figure out how to apply motion though so the character doesn't slip and slide around during animations

like when in the animations the character takes a step forth but since they're locked by the root bone, they just slip around

[pure jackal]

Root motion

Gl with that

[hazy sky]

how

i'm like hella new to this whole animation thing

[pure jackal]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

I do not fuck with root motion.
Find some tutorials. I'd be disappointed if there isn't one decent one involving godot at this point

[hazy sky]

i have only found tutorials with root motions so far

plus the model is only visual

i'm not animating the character itself, just the visuals

[hazy sky]

oh yea

[crimson tapir]

I guess for now, this is fine, it gets the point across, you can at leat tell what things are supposed to be

[crimson tapir]

Also snow particles

[uncut agate]

just recalculated
found out that everything is 6k faces

[wheat jetty]

anyone know where the ultrakill "mods" folder is

i got mods but idk where to put them

[crimson tapir]

#ultrakill-modding

It really should be moved to the modder's basement

[wheat jetty]

thanks

[crimson tapir]

np

[hazy sky]

that's pretty good

then again you shouldn't have to worry about high poly count for performance reasons

just have a good enough culling algorithm

[uncut agate]

tweaked some of the corners

[hazy sky]

looks much more streamlined

good job

[crimson tapir]

Ok so I got the rotation counter working with (at least in my opinion) some pretty neat math tricks (and a hell of a lot of abs() functions) and I think the trick system is finally done

Ya know, except the animations, board grabs and stuff that comes later

[crimson tapir]

Also, anyone know how to fix this blur on angled surfaces at a distance?

I've tried upping anisotropic filtering, but it doesn't seem to do anything

I think there's supposed to be a flag for it that you check in texture imports, but I can't find it

[hazy sky]

you need to mipmap your textures bruh

material, filtering and set it to mipmapped

either linear or closest

[crimson tapir]

Ok, so for the import settings for each texture make sure mipmap is selected? Do I have to mess with "Limit" at all?

[azure flume]

limit of what

[azure flume]

hover over the limit and see what it limits

[crimson tapir]

"No description."

[azure flume]

Very helpful, thanks godot!

[crimson tapir]

Yep

[hazy sky]

bruh

i said material not texture 💀

you shouldn't really mess with the mipmap limit since the engine handles mipmaps by themselves

but if you're curious, mipmaps are textures that are squashed in every direction so they can make up those odd angles, limiting it will limit the mipmap count it can create

if you set it to 2, it'll get better but not much, 4 is good, 8 is kind of overkill anyways

it can also hog up memory space so use it sparingly

[crimson tapir]

Ah, ok. I see

So the filtering tab is on the material?

[hazy sky]

sampling, sorry

[crimson tapir]

Ok, there we go, it still blurs a little bit, but it's far less noticable now, thank you

Also, recorded pulling off that one trick I mentioned earlier, blast jumping into a rail grind into a blast trick

Probably need to do something about the snowballs blending into the environment too much

[azure flume]

Make em glow

[fast vault]

Maybe use a light grey for the snow texture and white for the snowball texture to give it a bit of pop. Or somehow generate a soft outline shader

[crimson tapir]

Ok, now what?

[azure flume]

Perfect

[fast vault]

https://tenor.com/view/hysterical-laughter-laughing-gif-25735842

[pure jackal]

Comedy

[crimson tapir]

Does anyone know how to make a flat, 2d, object in trenchbroom? I'm making one of theose mesh fence things you see on ski hills and I'd prefer if it had no depth and was just 2 sides

[azure flume]

You can't

Can a flat 2d object even collide in 3d?

You can hide the depth with invisible texture on the top side I guess

0.25 pixels wide!

[crimson tapir]

Ok, I tried that and everything broke

Ok, got it fixed, but now the transparent parts of the trees and mesh fences doesn't work

[azure flume]

How'd you even manage that

[crimson tapir]

No clue

[azure flume]

Anyway, make a texture, invisible.png, dont actually make it invisible or anything, just something easy to see in trenchbroom, then use it on the top face of the fence, in godot make a new basematerial3d called invisible.tres, under transparency set it to Alpha, under Albedo choose ffffff00 as colour(so transparent), then reimport the map from TB and the faces set to invisible.png will automatically convert to invisible.tres material

png and tres have to be in same folder of course

[crimson tapir]

But what about the insides of the squares in the mesh?

[azure flume]

Not sure what you mean

[crimson tapir]

Ok, so it worked, but The squares in the grid aren't transparent

[azure flume]

Weren't they transparent before? Why'd you change that?

[crimson tapir]

Well, they were transparent, but so was a bunch of other stuff that wasn't supposed to be

They're transparent in trenchbroom, but not when it gets brought over

[azure flume]

Oh

Well you need to make a material for each texture you want to be transparent

basically same process, except for albedo you drag the texture there

[crimson tapir]

Oh, I see, just do the same thing as the invisible one for each material that has transparent parts

Except of course, with the image in th material

[azure flume]

Yea

[crimson tapir]

goccha, thanks

[crimson tapir]

Wat

So it's rendering the fence behind the trees, for some reason

[azure flume]

hmm, try alpha scissor instead of alpha

[crimson tapir]

I got it working, just set the render priority of the trees lower

There shouldn't be anything behind the tree line anyways, so I guess it's fine

Actually, no, on some maps I have planned, there are sections of trees withing the map, I probably should actually fix it

[hazy sky]

make those trees a separate thing

it's shaping up nicely tho

i dig the vibe

meanwhile i've reworked some of the camera system, did some stuff on the animations (you get multiple idle poses based on combat states) and a basic health indicator

and trying to work out the player count thing where you can actually transfer the camera to different players when you die and stuff

i'm afraid i'm too stupid for that

[azure flume]

How hard can it be to switch cameras when this exists?

[crimson tapir]

Well, I'd imagine he'd want the camera to smoothly transition to the other player

So the way I'd set this up is to make it so there's an invisible teather between the players while alive so neither walks out of view, and have the camera be aimed at the middle of said teather like this

[hazy sky]

there are no multiple cameras

[hazy sky]

that's what i did, yeah

[crimson tapir]

So then when a player dies, if there is one player left, have it so that the cam anchor is set to be the transform of the remaining player

[hazy sky]

that is correct

it lerps to the last player

let me set up the video

[crimson tapir]

Ok so seems like it's working exactly as intended then

[hazy sky]

except it doesn't lerp back when player 1 comes back

also if player 1 is dead, the camera just

demolishes the project

right now it's hardcoded

i need to find a dynamic solution

like i need a list of the players alive

that would work

[crimson tapir]

for (every alive player)

Ughhhh, friggin shift enter

[hazy sky]

no worries

but it's not as easy

right now i have the players grouped up

in the group Players waow

and the code checks for nodes within that group

if there are any, it sets the correct P1, P2 and P3 variables

and the code uses the P1, P2 and P3 global position values

that's why it's so hard

[crimson tapir]

Ok, so then just make that a function and call it again when the player respawns

[hazy sky]

yeaah..

but first i need the collection or players or something

it's a bit running together in my head and might be overcomplicating it

i need a way to refer to the alive players

also collect players with a HP value > 0

[crimson tapir]

for p in players: if p.health > 0

[hazy sky]

what's p?

genuinely curious

[crimson tapir]

The temporary element in the for loop

[hazy sky]

oh

[crimson tapir]

Cuz gdscript for loops are simmilar to python not C

[hazy sky]

i know that

not that i'd know python though

how do i dynamically add the players to an array?

[crimson tapir]

So if you want to get every alive player just have an array of all players alive or dead, then iterate through it with a for loop to get which ones are alive and keep that in a seperate array

[hazy sky]

like i've made a variable called live_players

[crimson tapir]

then when you itterate through live_players, use live_count, so it doesn't look in the last 2 indexes

[hazy sky]

yeah but how do you ADD to the array?

i read there was an array.add function but can't get it to work

[crimson tapir]

Well there's 4 players max right?

[hazy sky]

3

[crimson tapir]

you don't need to add to it, you just need to write to the first 2 spaces of the array the 2 live players, then tell it not to go further with the live_count variable

So for instance say players 1 and 3 are alive and 2 is dead

the live player array might look like this before 2 died

[1, 2, 3]

live_count = 3

when 2 dies, decrement live_count, and itterate through the array of all players again, and write the live ones to the first 2 spots of the array

now it would read

[1, 3, 3]
live_count = 2

it won't count 3 twice if you set up your foir loop to stop looking after live_count itterations

Then say 2 respawns, and we need to add it back to live_players

[hazy sky]

i mean i can just send a signal on the player's death to decrease the count by one

[crimson tapir]

increment live_players

[hazy sky]

i need to get the live player count

and the live players themselves

and their global positions

[crimson tapir]

Yeah, that's what this is doing

[hazy sky]

i got the live player count now, i just need their positions

but now that you say this

if live players 3 then camera logic

if live players 2 then camera logic

etc

not sure

feels like redundant code

[crimson tapir]

if live_count > 1: camera logic

[hazy sky]

i could do live_players.size()

[crimson tapir]

else: camera.follow(live_players[0])

[hazy sky]

that would equal to the amount of players

[crimson tapir]

Well, that will always read 3

[hazy sky]

i mean live players

[crimson tapir]

if 2 players were alive there would still be 3 indexes in the array

[hazy sky]

no because i have a check that removes the dead player

[crimson tapir]

just keep live_count as a seperate variable that is set to 3 when all players spawn in then decrement it when a player dies

[hazy sky]

yeah

but i have no death states yet

but that was the idea

send a signal when player dies

i just don't know how i'm gonna send the signal yet

[crimson tapir]

Have this be kept up in a game manager object that every player has a reference to

then just have a function gameManager.player_died(2)

[hazy sky]

game manager object?

[crimson tapir]

Yeah, one object, or collection of objects, in the level that everyone has a reference to that handles all the stuff that doesn't specifically belong to anything else

Like say a level timer or scoring system could be handled by the game manager

[hazy sky]

i'll keep in mind

[hazy sky]

wait you mean like a global script?

[crimson tapir]

Well, no just a node or collection of nodes parrented under one node that have scripts attatched that handled things like score, timers, which players are alive and dead, that other objects access

[uncut agate]

practicing making music

[hazy sky]

goofy ahh kabal music

[uncut agate]

what

[azure flume]

Chop Goblins soundtrack vibes

[uncut agate]

whats that

[azure flume]

mini-dusk

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1935660/Chop_Goblins/

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[uncut agate]

i can hear it

[azure flume]

it's not even the track i meant in the trailer lol

[uncut agate]

no im listening to the main theme

[azure flume]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVZ4nnX3Vrw

[uncut agate]

i was thinking more of the carnevil nocturne

https://youtu.be/MX75_vZtc6M?si=lLIkAW1p4wl1tjNe

[hazy sky]

he 💀

[uncut agate]

i really like how this is looking so far

[crimson tapir]

Lookin' spooky

[last heath]

What is it for?

[uncut agate]

Medievil has cut levels, and since my game is kinda based on medievil I might as well get a feel for the layout of levels

[hazy sky]

a bit too smooth perhaps

i would put a few loop cuts around some of the edges to reduce the smooth effect a little and give more definition

[hazy sky]

i fuckig hate complex mathematical equations

[uncut agate]

tell me about it

no one's gonna walk up to you and say
"whats the quadratic equation?"

[peak furnace]

guys,what u think about style giving u health back or overheal without cap?in my game if what

[uncut agate]

would encourage the player to do sick tricks to gain health back

i like it

[peak furnace]

also,u would get fuckloads of overheal from styling

[uncut agate]

genius

[crimson tapir]

Official logo of the International Snowball League (100% original)

[crimson tapir]

Hmm, depends on the type of game you're making, but usually you would want movement and health systems to be mostly orthogonal to each other

[peak furnace]

wtf is orthogonal

[crimson tapir]

Independent

[peak furnace]

oh,u get style like in ultrakill+360 no scope stuff

[crimson tapir]

So what kind of game are you making? The game I'm developing also has a trick system where the reward for landing a trick is a speed boost, reward movement with more movement

Oh, I see, I read ur messages wrong, yeah rewarding a player with health for depleting an enemies health in stylish or difficult methods is good game design

[crimson tapir]

What kind of math wizardry we got going on?

[crimson tapir]

There going to be a ghost train or something going around that track?

[uncut agate]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-walter-white-youre-right-youre-goddamn-right-gif-12030781

[crimson tapir]

Hell yeah

[unique trellis]

the motherfucker

the animations in the second clip will be fixed

[azure flume]

big guy has leg, why he no move?

[crimson tapir]

is "motherfucker" the actual name of the enemy?

[azure flume]

Of course

[hazy sky]

i got three characters to track with one camera

had to adapt the ramblings of a madman(me) into this

had to basically calculate the distance between P1 to P2, halve it, P2 to P3, halve that, P3 to P1, halve it as well

that gives the position between the characters distances

and gives a much better result than just taking the characters global position and halving it by 3 just like that because then the farthest player had the advantage of being focused

[crimson tapir]

Will there ever be a time where one player will be a significant elevation above the others?

If not, you could optimize it by only factoring in x and z

[hazy sky]

the formula is basically var x = (P1.global_position + P2.global_position)/2 var y = (P2.global_position + P3.global_position)/2 var z = (P3.global_position + P1.global_position)/2 var distance = (x+y+z)/3

[hazy sky]

there will be times, i'm also planning to account for player distances and if someone wanders too far away, lift the camera a little

[crimson tapir]

Ah, ok

To get the camera to move further back when the players spread out, multiply it's distance by some factor of distance + a constant min distance

[hazy sky]

what i thought is, there is a function called distance_to()

it returns a float value

i could check for the players distance and if they are within a certain threshold then lift camera

[crimson tapir]

You're already calculating distance in the code up there, doing that would be redundant

Just create some function based on the magnitude of distance variable you already have

Like, for instance:

cam_dist = 1.75 * (distance - MIN_DISTANCE) + MIN_DISTANCE if distance > MIN_DISTANCE else MIN_DISTANCE

Idk if 1.75 is the multiplier you want, just as an example

Actually, hold on, the distance variable you have is a Vector, that ^ wouldn't work

var avg_dist = (P1.distance_to(distance) + P2.distance_to(distance) + P3.distance_to(distance)) / 3

cam_dist = CAM_DIST_MULTIPLIER * (avg_distance - MIN_DISTANCE) + MIN_DISTANCE if avg_distance > MIN_DISTANCE else MIN_DISTANCE

[hazy sky]

yeah but i'd have to set a vector3 for the min_distance

since global_position is a vector3

[crimson tapir]

MIN_DISTANCE would be a float

[hazy sky]

distance is also a vector 3

[crimson tapir]

Yeah, that's why I calculated avg_distance up there ^

Actually, avg_distance should be max_distance, find which one is the furthest from the cam target and use that

var max_dist = 0

var t_dist
for i in range(live_players):
t_dist = live_players[i].distance_to(distance)
if t_dist > max_dist: max_dist = t_dist

cam_dist = CAM_DIST_MULTIPLIER * (max_dist - MIN_DISTANCE) + MIN_DISTANCE if max_dist > MIN_DISTANCE else MIN_DISTANCE

[drowsy escarp]

So I'm trying to do a HL2 style object grab system but for some reason if I push against a wall, the object starts to push me.

How do other games handle it, i tried playing half life 2 for reference and I couldnt find what they did to fix it

[pure jackal]

Simply have the player physics override anything the object does

(This is not the solution)

[azure flume]

remove it from the player-s collision layer during the hold

[hazy sky]

why would you want to pass through it

you can still object boost in HL2

[unique trellis]

too fat to move

[azure flume]

Not even a little bit?

[unique trellis]

no his actual name is boneshield

[azure flume]

Make him feel alive!

Couple steps

[unique trellis]

no he’s supposed to be stationary

okay

but yea he’s supposed to be a priority target

his slam attack will be a stunlock if not dodged and his blood attack is hectic

and you can only shoot him in the back

[crimson tapir]

I've done something similar before, what I did was when the player picks up an object, store the layer of the held object then set the layer to a layer that doesn't collide with the player, then when you release it put the layer back to the one you stored

[hazy sky]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-solid-mgs-cyborg-ninja-fatalistic-make-me-feel-alive-again-gif-18137106

[hazy sky]

that's how Deus Ex does it as well

but you still need to know where to put the prop when you put it in invalid spots

[crimson tapir]

Maybe check that once you try to release the prop with an overlap box the size of the prop and if it returns invalid don't drop it and play a little sound effect to tell the player they can't put it here

[hazy sky]

YEAH

we are so back

the ammo system was mostly why i stopped caring about the project in the first place

some people on the discord server told me to use resources to store the ammo in

i'm still looking into making it good, right now all the ammo types have their own separate resources

not sure if it's possible to squish them into one resource per player

[pure jackal]

@spare scarab @rotund garden

[rotund garden]

LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOO

[crimson tapir]

What's the issue with the ammo? If you have just a few different ammo types most straight forward way would just be:
var pistol_ammo = 16
var smg_ammo = 48
var shotgun_ammo = 12
etc.

Not much of a reason to make it more complex than that if it doesn't need to be.

[hazy sky]

actually i asked around on the Godot reddit and discord and people said what a stupid solution it was, and they told me it would make sense to make it a dictionary and other told me to make an enum and use those

so i took all day trying to figure out how to access the enum/dictionary key and get the value, take from the value, add or subtract from it

and after that i just said fuck that i'll turn back to just variables

that's when one dude said "dude, just use resources" and i'm like what

[crimson tapir]

Why a dictionary or enum? Seems like a really complicated way to solve a simple problem

[hazy sky]

he sends me a video and yeah

so now the ammo system works finally, however the reserve counter on the UI also changes when my pistol ammo changes so

it's a minor visual issue

[crimson tapir]

I guess a dictionary could kind of make sense if you want to use a string or some other data type to refer to each ammo type, for some reason

[hazy sky]

i mean i did want to make an ammo pool

you see i'm not trying to hardcode ammo types

i want complete freedom in what gun can use what

because well, later down the line i want silly cheats that alter all that stuff

just you know, those cheats like big head or stuff in goldeneye

[crimson tapir]

Then have ammo be a variable in the script for each gun

like in the script you have on the gun node

[hazy sky]

yeah but that wouldn't work either

[crimson tapir]

Why not?

[hazy sky]

the reason i need the ammo reserves separated is because i want Pistol 1 to share the ammo of Pistol 2

in case you can get two guns of the same time

which is something i want for the co-op part

[crimson tapir]

Ok, then a dictionary actually makes sense then

have each gun have an ammo key that they get from the dictionary to see how much ammo is left

[hazy sky]

like on a stealth mission your mate starts with an unsilenced pistol but the co-op parter has a silenced pistol, and you both use the same ammo

yeah but i have no idea how to use dictionaries

[crimson tapir]

If a gun has an ammo key not in the dictionary then add it to the dictionary

[hazy sky]

i tried many, MANY solutions

but it seems like resources are the way to go, just not the way i utilized them

if you know a good way to access values of dictionaries please elaborate because i spent like four hours trying to get it to work

[crimson tapir]

Dictionaries aren't that hard, they way they work is just like a literal dictionary, you have a key (usually a string) that's he key, and that key is associated with a value

Just like a word associated with a definition

[hazy sky]

that's how i tried it

had for example "Pistol_Rounds" = 8 and tried accessing the value through the key but it always returned null

i have no idea what syntax works here

and apparently neither do the people on the godot discord

[crimson tapir]

var ammo_dict = {"pistol" : STARTING_PISTOL_AMMO, "smg": STARTING_SMG_AMMO }

ammo_dict["shotgun"] = 12

And now there's shotgun ammo

[hazy sky]

okay, but how do i retrieve values from that?

like the reload function is inside the guns, the ammo is stored elsewhere

[crimson tapir]

var current_pistol_ammo = ammo_dict.get("shotgun")

[hazy sky]

the ammo is now stored in classes inside resources so i can call them whenever

so simply going by the string name, it returns it's value?

[crimson tapir]

Yeah, that's the key

you use the key to get the value

behind the scenes gdscript uses a technique called "hashing" to associate the keys and values

Here's the documentation on it:

https://docs.godotengine.org/en/stable/classes/class_dictionary.html#class-dictionary-method-get

[hazy sky]

that's interesting actually

i tried using get() but it still returned null

but yea i'll leave this for tomorrow, jump into it when this migraine finally wears off

[crimson tapir]

it returns null if the key is not found in the dictionary

[hazy sky]

could be

like i said, everyone blasted me with information they didn't knew would work and then vanished when i asked them to elaborate

[crimson tapir]

The way hashing works is it takes an input, runs it through a function that has no inverse, then attempts to find it in an array called a hash map

each element in the hash map is a result of some input into the hash function, and the value for said key is kept in a linked list at the node of the index of the hashed key in the hash map

it checks to see if a key is in the hash map by running the key you give it through the hash function and then searching if the hash map has that value

If so go to the list of values and return the value, if not, return null

[hazy sky]

sorry for cutting into your words, i'm looking for this kind of modularity, are dictionaries possible to execute like so?

like select a drop down option and have it automatically adjust which ammo type to deduce from the pool?

[crimson tapir]

Just give each weapon a key in the hash map

for instance, give the pistol the key "pistol" and have it search the dictionary for the key its given, if it returns null, create a spot in the dictionary with that key

[hazy sky]

huh

interesting

i really wonder how i will pull off a full 8-player multiplayer when i can't even get single player working properly 💀

[uncut agate]

theres gotta be a way i can extrude the top but keep it uniform

[crimson tapir]

godot multiplayer isn't that bad, just need to wrap your head around a different instance of the game running on everyones machine and how they communicate

[hazy sky]

wym uniform

[hazy sky]

i'm not thinking with it yet, first i'll probably only do the split screen co-op before anything network related

[hazy sky]

this is still a big ambition with little to no knowledge

[hazy sky]

bro just select the top loop, press E and constrict it to the Z (i think) axis by pressing that button

that should lock it vertically

or just duplicate the mesh and put it on top, and merge the vertices

with snapping set to edge or vertex

so it's flush

that way the UV coordinates for the textures remain actually intact

on the side note i finished the fundamentals for my camera stuff on the other game

hard coded for three players tops right now but i can safely expand that if needed

[azure flume]

Nice woolen rasta hat

[uncut agate]

what

[azure flume]

add some red and you are done

[uncut agate]

its
wheat

[hazy sky]

oh wait it's the wheat

what you can try is extrude, click so it's in the same spot

then press Alt + S

it should scale evenly across the thing

also constrict it to an axis

or two and exclude the vertical axis

sorry for some reason i thought you were the snowball fight guy and not the medievil guy

also you can work some UV magic if i recall where you can actually retain the UV coordinates and achieve a normal looking texture

but not sure where the toggle is

[uncut agate]

dunno if i showed this but i made the exterior of zaroks lair to help get an idea for design

[hazy sky]

mfer this looks like dust 2

nah tho but it's extremely confusing looking at it like this

are those train tracks?

[uncut agate]

yeah

[hazy sky]

neat, how did you manage the curves in the tracks like that?

i've been trying to get curved paths and roads and could never figure it out

[uncut agate]

ctrl right click

[hazy sky]

ctrl right click what

[uncut agate]

anywhere

click an edge, move your mouse anywhere then press ctrl right click

im feeling a whole redesign on the hub, im stuck between a castle town or a field
but i wanna do both at the same time, but i cant really design a map for that

[crimson tapir]

Have a castle town with a view of a field extending far off into the distance

[uncut agate]

thats an idea
but then again
is the town on a mountain? or what will the town look like?
these things i have to draw out, to get a perspective on it
but i just have no idea how that would look

[clever cape]

This one looks more edgy

[hazy sky]

would be cool if it was on a mountain though

or make the castle be on the mountain

and in the front you could see the town down below

would be a neat vista

[uncut agate]

hmmm
maybe a mountain village?

[hazy sky]

DMC2 had a cool mountain village

unironically the best part of DMC2 was the early part's setting

you could have two villages, one inside the mountain face, and one on the bottom of the mountain

and on the top a castle

and have the huge field on the bottom as well

[uncut agate]

id how to do the borders, this seems to rectangular

[uncut agate]

tried using the landscape with a decimate mod

[severe cobalt]

Fixed the lighting, much better

[fast vault]

Atmospheric!

[hazy sky]

this is so fucking bad

[crimson tapir]

It's not that bad, only thing that's a bit awkward is when he locks onto an enemy

[hazy sky]

yeah.. I need to rewrite the movement to accommodate for locking

also the attacks are handled weird

I think maybe using one shots aren't the way to go

[fallow kernel]

I got really bored today and made a nerd emoji boss over the spawn of a couple hours (including breaks.) Enjoy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aov-BNwQN8k

[indigo notch]

Remaking hit classic Dodge the Teapots of Doom in Godot.

https://youtu.be/oyr3b7HsxW0?si=0JUjp5bhK4wh7EhY

[azure flume]

New Fall Guys map?

[peak furnace]

i decided to scrap limited ammo in my game rn

[plush pasture]

yknow this is only tangentially related but sometimes i play a roblox game that's actually like, an awesome game that i could play for weeks on end and i'm just like "man, it's gonna suck so bad when roblox goes offline in like 2259 or something and these games are left unplayable forever"

[crimson tapir]

I'm sure by then someone will find a way to play roblox maps on a 3rd party server

[crimson tapir]

How come?

[hazy sky]

man it's so weird seeing old roblox be emulated outside of roblox

what i'd do is make the gravity a bit heavier, and a bit moreso on the player

[junior bluff]

hole

[uncut agate]

https://tenor.com/view/cave-dive-darkness-leap-gif-5803442

[crimson tapir]

https://tenor.com/view/fall-kirby-drop-falling-deep-gif-17081698

Haven't got any coding or texture work done these past few days because of the holidays, but I've been working on documentation and have 8 maps drawn up (plus the one I already have), 8 game modes that follow the rules of "can work on any map with an indeterminate number of teams", 6 ideas for power ups, 8 weapon concepts, a backstory for why the events of the game are happening in the first place, and a laundry list of potential steam achievments

As well as 14 ideas for selectable character models, but I'm still not sure how character customization should be handled yet

[uncut agate]

this is turrning out very well

[uncut agate]

made some trees as well

[pure jackal]

Goofy aah medievil environment

Love it

[uncut agate]

oh yeah this is the dude you play as

his name is roy since his og design palette was gonna be red orange and yellow

[pure jackal]

Reminds me of vivi

[uncut agate]

reminds me if magalor took up painting

[junior bluff]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/747138480169025599/1178482056754376704/Untitled_video_-_Made_with_Clipchamp.gif?ex=65764df1&is=6563d8f1&hm=afdcfa6ccde81b6a699bffef4d98feec64f2ea8bbc699251ddfac3457fb4dd3a&

orb

[uncut agate]

some graves next to the church

this means that people have died
spooky

i have the urge to make the kings castle a hidden area
and its just path of pain but 3d

[crimson tapir]

If you do the king should just be an inanimate scarecrow sitting on the throne

[uncut agate]

the big question is
the paintbrush is with roy the entire game, how can it be used?
to give some variety to the gameplay

[uncut agate]

the king is this guy

[crimson tapir]

Neat, these characters remind me of the little sand dudes from Star Wars

[uncut agate]

ewoks?

no wait