general-modding

[humble dagger]

but I can't make enemies until I finish my item system because I'm just like that

but I don't want to finish my item system right now because it's painful UI work more than anything

barely related but check out these textures I made in stable diffusion

[arctic radish]

If I were to prioritize and stick to a priority chart, I’d not have gone this far in my game dev life

[spare scarab]

Ohhhh nice

[spare scarab]

Thats actually sick

[arctic radish]

How tf do you get Stable Diffusion

[humble dagger]

It's uhh, complicated

[arctic radish]

Isn’t it in private beta

[humble dagger]

it may be but I kind of grabbed it somehow

I did it while very high I don't remember the details but I have a thing I run and it generates images on my gpu

[spare scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/ill-be-taking-that-spongebob-patrick-star-robbery-burglar-gif-16207758

[arctic radish]

But yeah for me personally I hate prioritizing what I need to do in game dev as I tend to get burnt out working on one part of the game for eons only to have to work on another part for eons after instead of distributing my workload into different “if I don’t wanna work on [x], then I still have [y] to finish and work on as well!”

[cerulean robin]

I see pain everyone, but still noice 🤔

[humble dagger]

I'm kinda out of those. I did everything I wanted to do

Now I just have the messy details to wrap up for a prototype, not even a game

[arctic radish]

Prototypes are actually most of the time better for things like this

I’ve seen devs upload coder art levels of prototypes and they are bangers

[humble dagger]

Well the thing is I'm insane and not very smart so I wrote my prototype as if I was making a full game

Like, I spent a month on the weapon system, a month on the inventory, two months on enemy attacks..

If I had an artist for this I could probably ship it

[arctic radish]

My games are all prototypes, despite the graphics quality being subpar (imo) But I care less about appealing graphics and more about just finishing the gameplay and it being fun even if it’s half baked graphics are bad

[humble dagger]

All I have is programmer brain. I can only code my way out of problems

[arctic radish]

Drawcode

What engine are you using btw?

[humble dagger]

Unity rn

I'm switching to Godot once this prototype is done

[arctic radish]

Ah

I’m pissed off btw that godot 3.X to 4.0 project converter still is basically Garbo

[humble dagger]

I think we talked about this before, I think it's a necessary evil

[arctic radish]

Despite how close supposedly godot 4.0 is to release

That having a broken ass project converter is a necessary thing?

Either way if I’m goin to relearn GDScript for Godot 4, might as well start my game dev shit from scratch

[humble dagger]

Just that the switch to Godot 4 is unintuitive. Compilers / interpreters are a huge pain in the ass and to translate between code isn't exactly trivial

[arctic radish]

Yeah

[fickle zinc]

trying to put these two vertices together so that they match is there any way how

[spare scarab]

If u really need to, you select both then press m

It should give u options

For me snapping them together then merging by distance works fine

[arctic radish]

Select both verts, hit M, select which one you want, repeat, make sure you delete the inside of the face as that won’t auto delete when merging.

[spare scarab]

Oh yea that too

Btw by looking at what you're doing
Are you trying to force attach a front part of a gun to the middle through merging vertices?

Cuz it'd be easier to not make them separate in the first place imo

[arctic radish]

Well depending on the workflow it’d be like that

[fickle zinc]

the other option is creating a new face through vertices

though that comes out a bit janky

[arctic radish]

How?

Like how is it jank?

[fickle zinc]

wait the join

[spare scarab]

huh?

[fickle zinc]

could join the two parts then use the m key

[arctic radish]

Were they separate meshes

Like not one object?

[spare scarab]

From looking at the blend files, very likely so

Which i don't really see why you'd do it in the end?

Like when the thing is fully done and put together why not have it a singular mesh

[arctic radish]

Because to some people it’s harder to get individual elements of the mesh

Fnaf modelers love to just use a bunch of mesh’s for things like Endos rather than make the Endo all one thing

thank god I broke out of that habit early on

[pure jackal]

Fnaf models are just renders

so it doesn't necessarily matter how scuffed the geometry is so long as the modeling software still exports a pretty picture

unless you mean the new one in which, yeah shits scuffed and 90% of the fuckin endo mesh shouldn't even exist

[earnest lily]

I personally solved this with Trello cards

[pure jackal]

Trello saves all

[earnest lily]

with the added benefit of - hey I've been away for a week, what the fuck do I do no- oh hey there it is

[earnest lily]

I feel like Trello might not scale too well for bigger teams?

I mostly used Jira in professional settings

[humble dagger]

The classic problem with Trello cards is that you then have to "plan things"

Instead of jumping between things as necessary

[pure jackal]

True

[earnest lily]

how do you mean?

[arctic radish]

I have a trello, but it’s not much use when my work environment is like liquid

Scatter brain strikes hard

[pure jackal]

0 thoughts brain empty
write trello list
forget to check

[arctic radish]

TRUE

[pure jackal]

do a whole bunch of stuff
come back weeks later
the back half of the list was done first

forget again

[humble dagger]

I have ADHD and everything I do is a whim, it's a miracle I've focused enough energy into making something almost playable

[arctic radish]

I wrote up a Google sheet for my game, opened it once, said “my plan for this gameplay is too different from my OG concept” and then forget it exists add infinity

[humble dagger]

Holding myself to it though, I'm gonna get items done tonight

I think I just figured out how to do them

After that it's just keys, locked doors, and some enemies and I can build a prototype game to try

[arctic radish]

I wanna get my weapon system cleaned out because I hate hard coding weapon states for acquiring weapons

[humble dagger]

I really strongly recommend a super OO system

My current one isn't perfect but it's super versatile

[arctic radish]

I wish I could just “boink” a value and you’d have it in your arsenal

[humble dagger]

You can do that but it requires a ton of legwork

[arctic radish]

Rather than having to constantly have a reference to the object in the map for when you get it

Like I want to just add the items into a dictionary with a value and if the value is false you don’t have the item, otherwise you have it and can equip it

But then I need to always have the weapon loaded when the player doesn’t have it UHHHG

[humble dagger]

I solved that problem by splitting weapons into two types

SerializedWeapon and Weapon

Only one can exist at a time and any weapon can be serialized and visa versa

SerializedWeapons are just instantiated code objects that store the data within

When you need a weapon, use some parity value on the serialized weapon to instantiate a prefab

And then copy the values over

[arctic radish]

Also how do you handle dynamic weapon types, like are the projectiles spawned by the gun or the player, and what happens if a weapon has an alt fire while others don’t

[humble dagger]

The gun handles the projectiles

Also dynamic weapon types are handled by making weapons SUPER object oriented

I wish I could describe it well, I need to type it out to explain

[arctic radish]

Well the input is handled by the player, so if let’s say you have Left click is a sword, and right click is a Gun, how would you handle the input for each of them if you switched out the weapons with one gun

[humble dagger]

So I have a weapon class that always has an OnFire and OnAltFire

When you press those, it sets _firing/_altfiring to true

Then in update, I poll those values every frame and if theyre true I perform Attack or AltAttack

Specific weapons override Attack and AltAttack to make the behavior change

But all weapons are of type Weapon so all weapons by default can handle left and right click

[arctic radish]

Hmmm

[humble dagger]

It's even more complicated than that in actuality

[arctic radish]

I know

[humble dagger]

I might, might have a zip with all the code

I could also bug my SO to zip and send it

[arctic radish]

I’m just thinking of how I’d replicate that with GD script

[humble dagger]

I'm at work rn

[long leaf]

most exciting function i've written

func explode():
    $Head.explode()
    $Torso.explode()
    $Bottom.explode()```

[untold niche]

"Bottom.explode()"

[azure flume]

Missing $Cum.explode()

[pure jackal]

head asplode

[long leaf]

it'd be nice if it bloody worked

[pure jackal]

the code explode

[arctic radish]

code implode

[long leaf]

added a few more sfx, and exploding- you actually die now

exploding takes place at 0:25

[pure jackal]

pop

[sudden imp]

Gun spin 10/10

[long leaf]

when you haven't got an artist to do real animations you make do

enemies exploding coming soon

[fickle zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/two-rats-rat-spin-spinning-gif-25597012

[indigo shard]

stupid godot question. but when the player is moving between scenes, any bullets the player have shot also transfer to the next scene. is there any function i can do so that when the scene is changed itll queue free the bullets

[long leaf]

theres a couple ways I can think, all quite shit however
one would be keeping a handle on all the bullets and then writing a scene change wrapper which frees the bullets before changing the scene

[indigo shard]

oh that could work

[azure flume]

why do you spawn the bullets as a child to the player? spawn them to the world that you unload

get_parent().add_child(bullet)

Or..... add

func _ready() -> void:
self.add_to_group("bullet")

func die():
queue_free()

To the bullet script and call

get_tree().call_group("bullet", "die")

when switching maps

[arctic radish]

you could have a bool in the scene script and then when it's true it'd queue free the projectiles.
ez

[azure flume]

Im still confused why the bullets are child of the player though

[arctic radish]

^

i'd just "get_tree.currect_scene.add_child()"

[azure flume]

checking the bool every frame from 100000 bullets? doesnt sound very performant

[arctic radish]

no?

If Bool = true
Call all bullets to Queue free

one bool
queue frees all bullets

[azure flume]

and how do you call all bullets? groups 😄

[long leaf]

all my hud code is done on frame rather than on event which I assume causes some slowdowns

[arctic radish]

no, you can call them through it's base script

[neat lava]

https://gfycat.com/threadbarefittingkoodoo https://gfycat.com/tornthirdfattaileddunnart

puch

[pure jackal]

Sick punchies

[neat lava]

Puanch

Lady

Assassination

[rotund garden]

Cry of Fear but actually good?
yoooo

[neat lava]

You didn't like cof?

[rotund garden]

I loved it, I just got used to say "X game but good"

I got brainwashed by this damn server

[neat lava]

Lol

[neat lava]

https://streamable.com/3fxrdx

Fist in game

[cloud bloom]

o

[spare scarab]

man makes the worst ak model possible, asked to leave #general-modding

[neat lava]

certainly not the worst

ive seen some ak models in my time trust me

[fickle zinc]

laughs

proven right

now heres the worse

[neat lava]

More like proven right ☠️

[fickle zinc]

your emplying that theres worse than this one

[neat lava]

No i wasnt

[neat lava]

I was talking about this one

[spare scarab]

random edge?

also u duplicated this thing into itself

[fickle zinc]

went out of hand so had to create a new one

[fickle zinc]

didnt see that one

[spare scarab]

there's also a bunch of z-fighting faces all over the place

[fickle zinc]

where

[fickle zinc]

wait does this happen when there are two objects colliding with eachother

[azure flume]

blender is a bloody mess to work with

gee thanks google

[humble dagger]

Yeah blender is kinda the best I heard

My roommate was a 3D student

His other suggestion was zbrush

[azure flume]

it might be best in terms of having 251215251125 features (that ill never need), but the user experience is horrible

[tranquil oracle]

It's a problem all modelling tools have in my experience

[spare scarab]

i mean it's when you have 2 faces that are overlaying each other

and blender isnt sure which of them to render so it starts showing weird shit

it's common and not just for blender

[azure flume]

blender should just figure out that those two faces are now the same face

and apply some verts and edges to connect them properly

[wraith beacon]

I mean, Blender has merging tools, also that idea sounds horrible to work with.

[arctic radish]

Boolean merging

[fickle zinc]

well would you look at that

huh

[arctic radish]

You can also just ctrl+J and then delete some faces and then press F to make a new edge or face

[pure jackal]

There are a lot of better ways to go about doing what you're doing

[arctic radish]

It’s honestly way more streamlined than what most people think because tutorials usually don’t cover hotkeys or workflows for more advanced shit

I legit learned more from speed modeling videos than tutorials

[pure jackal]

Quickly Removing verts that are overlapping can be done by just merging by distance, though there's still gonna be some cleanup needed

[fickle zinc]

mergeing isnt always a good idea

sometime the barrels are there own different objects

it safer to do that then merging

[arctic radish]

For Overlap I tend to just merge the selected verts and it’s good

[pure jackal]

Then select all the faces of the barrel, merge them by distance, and then hit P to split it from the rest

[fickle zinc]

if you where to merge then you would have to deal with this

[pure jackal]

And then merge and cleanup thenrest

[arctic radish]

Deal with what?

[neat lava]

Lol

[pure jackal]

The top of the barrel is merging to the stock in that image where he merges all the verts

[arctic radish]

Then select the barrels and press P

[pure jackal]

Again if the barrels are connected individually, hover your mouse over each, hit L, and it'll select the whole barrel, do the same with the second, merge THOSE and then hit P

[arctic radish]

Yes

L is your friend for selecting quickly and fast

[pure jackal]

L and P are going to be your friend for things that need to be next to verts but not connected

Also, lets say you just want to select the back half of the barrel.
Go to edge selection, hold alt and then click an edge it should select the whole loop, go to edge>mark seam, and now if you switch back to face selection and press L, it'll select everything that isn't split off from the seam

[arctic radish]

Keep in mind if you have seams that if you’re wanting to select the whole object, go into vert select mode, otherwise the selection would fill to the edge of the seam and stop

[spare scarab]

also this is really minor but

u sure you need to screenshot your whole window every time you want to send smth

like, area selection is a thing

like win+shift+s or just the snipping tool which are both default

one day you might send smth you dont want in your browser tabs or whatever lol

[pure jackal]

He has twice

[spare scarab]

yes in fact

but still

one day it might be more than just a little haha

[neat lava]

Certified prt scr moment

[arctic radish]

If I prt scr you’d see L o n g image

Because 3 monitor moment

[pure jackal]

You'd see 1 normal, 1 big, and 1 small

[neat lava]

3 monitors jesus

I dont even have 2 ! !

[spare scarab]

i dont even have one i just guess what my inputs do ! !

[light breach]

Someone give me cursed terraria mods

[pure jackal]

Minecraft

[light breach]

Damn thats very cursed

[neat lava]

My crap

[pure jackal]

My boy you are named ultrakill sex mod
Nothing in terraria will be cursed enough for you

[light breach]

Fair enough

[azure flume]

What about the outputs that result in the actions of other people?

Do you imagine that too?

[neat lava]

Idk

[spare scarab]

i just have a pair of headphones that is turned up to max and it reads out ones and zeroes which i convert from binary to pixel colors and imagine the whole image

https://tenor.com/view/shrimp-simple-its-shrimple-gif-25735431

[neat lava]

Erm you know discord actually has text to speech ? ?

[spare scarab]

it doesnt spell out profile pics unlike my binary pixel reader

and that information is NECESSARY

[neat lava]

So do you piece together the moving pixels of Chris pratt mario

[spare scarab]

yup

[neat lava]

Awesome

[spare scarab]

aight hold on it's giving another image

it takes a while cuz it reads line by line

[light breach]

Its not for ultrakill but i found it

[jagged loom]

obnoxious bloom? done

[neat lava]

https://tenor.com/view/reaction-my-eyes-cant-unsee-burn-gif-7225082

[unique crag]

It might be possible :DDD When Im on my puter I will send the reference pic

Thank you :D I'm still kinda new so some things arent made very well, I did try to make it low poly tho

[arctic radish]

I've ran into an issue with Maxsine that I can't get a coherent answer for anywhere, so instead of burning out the project with trying to figure out how to fix said issue I'm going to make a burner project.
Also going to make the burner project the most annoying thing ever to code because the perspective is like this for the tiles

and this is how the character's perspective is going to be like

How will I code the movement to handle this?
I don't know

[untold niche]

Hold on

What kind of perspective is it on the tiles?

[arctic radish]

what it looks like below the character in red

Dark red = will be covered up by other tiles
Bright red = what'll be shown to the player

[untold niche]

???

[arctic radish]

like so

[untold niche]

Literally every new piece of inforimation about this makes me more confused lmao

Is it like, isometric but with the camera parallel to the floor?

[arctic radish]

yes

and the camera is not angled 45 degrees it's a little more than 45

so normal Isometric math won't apply here

[untold niche]

That's fucked man, lmao

[arctic radish]

Yes
yes it very much is

And keep in mind it's a Katana Zero kinda game I'll be going for it

just to add to the pile of "FUCK"

[untold niche]

Is the angle (so the dark red to light red ratio) 2/3? Guess it'd be 60° in that case

[arctic radish]

well that's the issue
It's a bit more than 60 as well, more like 2.5/3

or maybe less hold on

because the total width of the tiles themselves are 32

32 x 16

[untold niche]

[arctic radish]

and there's a 4 pixel offset from the center of the tiles

the the movement code for the player needs to compliment the perspective itself + I need to figure out how I'd handle distance from the camera down hallways or open spaces from far away

because if everything was the same scale it'd look jank

[fickle zinc]

jesus

[wraith beacon]

These cliff walls have one of the high res textures in the game.

[arctic radish]

this is what I'm hoping for it too look like in game

[arctic radish]

how long does it usually take to UV map the Env?

[wraith beacon]

Environment pieces are modular and for walls and such I often just do projection UVs.

[pure jackal]

Hot

[wraith beacon]

Also I'm going to need to repaint all of the regular rock textures to be higher res 💀

[arctic radish]

like Wave Function Collapse style of level modular?

[wraith beacon]

They're just meshes, that're placed around the place on grid, no fancy systems or anything.

[arctic radish]

ah

Please Godot Gods for the love of fuck improve Gridmaps if you're improving the 3D side of things in Godot 4

[wraith beacon]

Does, Godot not easily let you put things on grid?

[arctic radish]

it does but it's really fucking jank
there's a node explicitly for placing mesh's on a grid, but it's very finnicky to get looking right + it breaks collision if you have a mesh that has it by for some reason increasing the actual area where the collision collides with

I have to manually go into the Meshlib, and just trial and error the collision so that there's no overlap if there's 2 floor or walls next to each other collision wise

so yes, it's borderline garbo

[fickle zinc]

just a failed version

[pure jackal]

Very

Apt

Title

How

How do you end up with this

[fickle zinc]

dont think the world is ready for that answer

[pure jackal]

Why

Why do you continue

[untold niche]

continue what

[fickle zinc]

now its a hobby

got a job at a relative company as a qa tester

[spare scarab]

Hey, some consider killing ppl a hobby

lemme see the model hold on

every time i load up a file of urs man

i keep asking myself what am i supposed to look for

that stock has enough polygons for a skyrim mountain

[fickle zinc]

granted was attempted to fix however just thought it would be a not so good use of time and was better off working on the one that actually works

this is the one currently being worked on

was based on this

[pure jackal]

Can you kill me cause I wanna die after seeing this shit magn

[spare scarab]

god dude

when u move to another project, like a new gun

why not just

make a new file

OR delete the rest of ur shite

like do u really need all that below

only the sith deal in so many loop cuts eh

u could make a healthy breakfast outta those

[brazen copper]

[pure jackal]

Brb opening premier

[pure jackal]

Why did you use that and not the reference image you just sent

[fickle zinc]

just stated its wip

[pure jackal]

Then use the reference image

It'll go better than just eyeballing it

[spare scarab]

he means literally use this

[desert shard]

Tried something character action game-ey

[spare scarab]

siiick

[pure jackal]

If I'm making a glock I don't use the reference image of a 1911 and then look back and forth to another glock image to make the corrections

[pure jackal]

we

we just told you

show me the geometry in edit view

stop hiding it

hiding it doesn't make the problem go away

[pure jackal]

....

OK

Dassit

give me the blend.

[fickle zinc]

its still wip

[pure jackal]

kindly pass me the wip blend, please

[unique crag]

Thank you for this

What is the what is this blend file

Its been 5 minutes

And the file hasnt loaded

[pure jackal]

#general-modding message

because he has a bunch of other stuff just sitting there, not related to the current thing he's trying to make

[unique crag]

Jesus Christ whats up with those circles

[pure jackal]

I'm going to guess that they are for reference/scaling in terms of making curved edges

[unique crag]

Memester when he finds out that he can actually go to the file menu and create a new file

[pure jackal]

he knows that

this isn't every single thing he's ever done in the same blend

its just a bunch of different shit

[unique crag]

Oh

I dont get why still

Lik

Whenever you open blender

you have to choose to open a specific file nonetheless

[pure jackal]

ask him

[spare scarab]

in fact some of it is literally a month old

[unique crag]

@fickle zinc Hey May I ask why dont you watch a video or two abt making objects in blender?

[pure jackal]

he has

[fickle zinc]

jesus you people are still asking

[unique crag]

why are they not connecyed

[spare scarab]

smth's wrong i can feel it

[unique crag]

I just feel like he is intentionally making blender shitposts

[spare scarab]

how many ref images do you need wth

[unique crag]

And why the fuck he doesnt use the squared floor thingy idk how to explain

[spare scarab]

the grid?

[unique crag]

Yeah

[spare scarab]

wait where IS the grid

[fickle zinc]

litterly stated this is wip they arent connect due to the fact that one still trying to get the shape right

[unique crag]

This has got to be a troll

[spare scarab]

words

[unique crag]

Maybe form the entire body with one object and then proceed to model it instead of making two separate ones?

[spare scarab]

ok hey i gotta ask, fr
what's with all the random double/triple/quad spacing

like you do that a lot

keyboard brokey?

cuz that could be a problem while using blender

[unique crag]

you mean this?

[pure jackal]

Alright

Here

[spare scarab]

i mean literally the pressing space several times while typing

[pure jackal]

This is the SAME SHAPE as what you have

and it follows the tri/quad formula, and will render and export with 0 issues

this is your tri count.

this is how many polys it'll be when you export it.

THIS IS HOW MUCH YOU ORIGINALLY HAD

FOR THE LOVE OF GOOOOD

DAMNNNNN

JUST OPTIMIZE YO SHIT

FO THE LOVE OF GOOOOOOOOOOOOD

[merry lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/heonism-for-the-love-of-god-please-please-gif-24062262

[unique crag]

Woah from where you can see the tris count?

[spare scarab]

i know i had fuckups but i never actually checked the tris count of my shit lol

it's giving me a little wake up call i thought it was fine

well mostly

i know the mesh is messy in places

[unique crag]

Yeah same, I got a big problem with the hunting rifle but i somehow ducttape fixed it low

[spare scarab]

u need to enable that in prefrences - interface - stats or smth

[unique crag]

I dont havb it

[pure jackal]

at the very least everything line here has a function and isn't just splitting what is essentially the same face

[unique crag]

Ooh

[pure jackal]

Its on by default in 2.8 and below iirc

[paper swan]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/970155397442842655/1019676910025965588/caption.gif

[pure jackal]

at least, I never had to go turn it on'

[pure jackal]

PIN THIS

[spare scarab]

holy shit torii lmao

⭐

[paper swan]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/990131116910465024/1018527073867931688/image0-51-1.gif

[pure jackal]

nono its accurate

[unique crag]

Is this a lot?

[pure jackal]

yeah but we'll need to see the geometry linework to see what can be adjusted

also "a lot" changes depending on if you're going for something low poly, or realistic

[unique crag]

low poly

[pure jackal]

thats the blend1 file

[spare scarab]

it works fine if u delete the last thing

at least for me

[unique crag]

I had a big fuck up here but idk if it makes the file really bad to export and texture or no

[spare scarab]

that's kind of a lot

[unique crag]

last thing?

[pure jackal]

he means the 1

[spare scarab]

.blend1 should be .blend

[pure jackal]

yeah there's a lot of stuff here that doesn't need to be here but at the very least I can see that its in service of making the shape

and not just loop loop loop loop

[unique crag]

Ohhhh

Ooops

sry

[unique crag]

I havent tried deleting the lines on the handle alongside the vertex dots yet but imma try later tonight prob

[spare scarab]

i found my first ever blender model

[pure jackal]

thats actually pretty good

let me see if I can find

the dreaded

one moment

[unique crag]

Thickk

[indigo shard]

dear god you dont want to see my first model

though ive only made like 3 models so

[spare scarab]

it's fun to look back

showem

[unique crag]

My first blender model is a bit inapropriate for this server so to say

[spare scarab]

it's even animated :)

[indigo shard]

damn

[unique crag]

animation pro

Im still proud with this model

[spare scarab]

based

[pure jackal]

this isn't the dreaded but it replaced the dreaded before it itself was replaced

[spare scarab]

nice

[unique crag]

Daaamn

[merry lotus]

awesome except for the barrels

[unique crag]

The gun looks pretty good

[pure jackal]

HERE WE ARE

AIN'T SHE A BEAUTE

[spare scarab]

actually neat

[merry lotus]

w
where's the trigger

[pure jackal]

the player would never see it

[unique crag]

Those are pretty good for first blends

[pure jackal]

so its not modeled

[unique crag]

Ive got a low poly jet too

[pure jackal]

Woulda been this or something and it'd have been flipped over for the reload

[spare scarab]

holy fuckin shiet

[pure jackal]

jayjay the jet

[spare scarab]

that's really good

[unique crag]

Thanks :D, I have a version without the wheels

I had a lot of pain with the wings

[spare scarab]

this was godawful lmao

[unique crag]

Eh I mean its still good but those rods are goofy ahh

[spare scarab]

ah the bad old times

[unique crag]

Were you doiung everything with cylinders :DDD

[spare scarab]

yes.

and i didnt know u could recuse the vert count on them when spawning

so it was all 32

[unique crag]

Amazing

[spare scarab]

this is when i actually started to watch tutorials

[unique crag]

Here is a detailed model Ive tried

[spare scarab]

shieet nice

[unique crag]

Omg it looks so cute

Ive never tried doing animals but soon I gotta learn

[pure jackal]

wha

[spare scarab]

da flak cannon which i actually ported to quake as well, shame i lost all the tex for it

thank god i kept all these

[pure jackal]

I think this is supposed to be a deer

[spare scarab]

it does look like a deer

[pure jackal]

I'm not sure anymore

[unique crag]

Goddamn thats a really good model

[azure flume]

oh no send help

[spare scarab]

[azure flume]

never mind

[spare scarab]

AHHHH IM DYING all good :)

[unique crag]

ive also gotten a very familiar gun

[spare scarab]

it's pogging

[unique crag]

The tris count isnt pogging that much tho...

I have to remove a lot of unnecessary lines and stuff

[spare scarab]

i still hope i get to use my pipe crossbow on god fr

[pure jackal]

YOO

GIMME A SEC

[pure jackal]

YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

that looks SICK

dude this old concept looks like dogshit compared to that

[spare scarab]

the idea was stolen from a hl2 concept art weapon

lemme see if i can find it

[unique crag]

Holy shit this is epic

[spare scarab]

there

so i really just remade this piece of art

[unique crag]

Its very well made

And it even has textures

[spare scarab]

thx

also this thing lol

faith gun

i should just go wild and start making makeshift guns

no reference

NOT IRL

IN BLENDER

[pure jackal]

It's too late

they're coming

[muted stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/rock-one-eyebrow-raised-rock-staring-the-rock-gif-22113367

[unique crag]

I would do it irl too

Very cool gun tho

[fickle zinc]

no longer gonna say anything anymore

[unique crag]

The Lord is my shepherd; I shall not want. He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: He leadeth me beside the still waters. He restoreth my soul: He leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for His name's sake.

[spare scarab]

The vow of silence...

😶

[unique crag]

What am I supposed to look at

[pure jackal]

ignoring the issue does not make the issue go away friend

[neat lava]

That shit look like half life 2 beta

I animated a model of that years ago l0l

Found it

https://youtu.be/eeRbwhZa_ZE

[neat lava]

I already do it irl

Very fun

[torpid oak]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/979323588085706752/1019706210167038044/unknown.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/979323588085706752/1019705141739397221/unknown.png

[pure jackal]

Ayo

[unique crag]

Yoo

Shit looks awesome

[cunning wing]

i should do this irl

[neat lava]

you should

[pure jackal]

defy several laws
with the power of asphalt and PVC

[merry lotus]

made a small fps game engine with collision

new blood kart is still my top priority but this is just a fun side project

[neat lava]

No law against manufacturing your own firearms 😁

[pure jackal]

there are several

but OK

[pure jackal]

also I'm saving this

[merry lotus]

obviously the collision is fucked mainly because i haven't worked with collision before

and i have no idea how to add a radius to the player so that the camera doesn't clip through the geometry

[pure jackal]

clipping plane

[merry lotus]

clipping plane is used

it's just the algorithim i'm using checks to see if the player is inside the cube, and if it is then it sets the position to the last recorded position

it's hard to explain but the clipping plane doesn't really do anything

and even if i set the value small enough it wouldn't look good

[azure flume]

HARK, the sequel to HROT?

[neat lava]

However, nothing in the GCA prohibits individuals from making guns for their own personal use. A non-licensed person may make a firearm, provided it's not for sale and the maker is not otherwise prohibited from possessing firearms.

if youre a felon or not allowed to own guns then yeah its illegal lol

but that goes without saying

I suppose its illegal if you live in a fun-police state

[merry lotus]

couple things i added including a mage model i ripped from dusk because i can't make anything original

also I still haven't fixed the problem with the camera radius because I have no idea how to do it

[golden sand]

You can check that but with every vertex of a sphere that surrounds the player, loop through every vertex of that sphere and if one of them is inside the cube just set the players position to the last recorded position and break out from the loop

[arctic radish]

all these frames made in less than 2 hours

[long leaf]

going to try a new game idea
something completely different and possibly less flashy

[neat lava]

What is it

[long leaf]

let me see if it works first

[torpid oak]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/975690577284833301/1020007692573605918/unknown.png

s h o v e l

[neat lava]

https://imgur.com/g1zF0yS so true bestie

Every game needs shovel

[fast vault]

An enemy I'm working on

[fast vault]

Looks cool!

[neat lava]

looks epic is that a robot

[fast vault]

Yup, a little excavation bot

[astral sonnet]

...

[spare scarab]

Oute!!!!

[azure flume]

how many years of beta?

[neat lava]

Godoters

[jagged loom]

damn yall fast

[cloud bloom]

Cute

[rotund garden]

YOOOOOOOOOOOO

[long leaf]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[wraith beacon]

Trying to make the camera more usable.

[fast vault]

Really liking the aesthetic of this game!

[merry lotus]

i kinda got player collision working but for some reason the player gets stuck to the wall until the player jumps out of it

and i have no idea why

ok i kinda fixed it but the player can get stuck on ledges and also there's flickering when you run into a wall

[pure jackal]

bouncy

what happens if you run into the kultist

[merry lotus]

nothing

[pure jackal]

[merry lotus]

he just chilling

[merry lotus]

simple doom style enemy ai

he doesn't attack (yet) but rn he just changes his direction to a random dir every 2 seconds

in doom they change their direction when they hit a wall but this was easier

also doesn't have collision yet

gun

i don't know how to do local rotations so it only rotates on the y axis for now

you can't shoot yet

but you can poke

also i haven't made it so that it draws above everything else yet

actually you know what i could just use 2d sprites for the guns

that would solve both issues

[golden sand]

Local rotation is just the rotation of the parent + any local rotation that you want to give it

[merry lotus]

yeah but when I set the rotation of the gun to the camera's rotation exact rotation (except for the z axis) some weird shit happens

[golden sand]

Oh ok

I am enjoying your devlogs btw

[merry lotus]

ty :)

[golden sand]

Are you using any libraries?

[merry lotus]

lwjgl

[arctic radish]

when you shove a bit too many animations into one animation player

[golden sand]

I went for a search and it seems a lot of fun for people who want to play with code and just experiment, I might try sometime

[unique crag]

ne byð me nanes godes wan. And he me geset on swyðe good feohland, and fedde me be wætera staðum, and min mod gehwyrfde of unrotnesse on gefean. He me gelædde ofer þa wegas rihtwisnesse for his naman.

[cloud bloom]

Anyone know what might cause Unity to not allow me to edit the values of an animation at all?

[unique crag]

Mark the animation and press X

[cloud bloom]

When I tried that just now, It lets me edit the animation when the object the animator is on is not selected but as soon as I select the object whatever values I changed do effectively nothing on the object

[unique crag]

I was joking...

[cloud bloom]

.-.

[unique crag]

I dont know what x does in unity but in blender once you mark an object and press x it gives you option to delete the marked segment

[cloud bloom]

ah okay

[unique crag]

Maybe try to see tutorials on youtube

[cloud bloom]

Never had the issue before and I cant find anything relating to it anywhere lol

[unique crag]

Can you try to edit it frame by frame or ajything like that, thats the furthest i can think of ive never installed unity so its just a wild guess

[cloud bloom]

Nope, the animation file is just acting like it's locked completely despite it looking perfectly normal, no idea what would cause that

I think it might be read only I didn't know animations could be read only

[unique crag]

Maybe you should try and enable some kind of option which disables the read only

Or idk

[golden sand]

You can try to create a copy of your read only and edit the copied one

[cloud bloom]

I tried to and it didn't work, but I think I might know what I need to do to change it now.

[fickle zinc]

though its getting close

[arctic radish]

I still have to make:
Roll frames (side to side, Forwards & backwards)
Walk (facing back and towards the camera/viewer)
Parry (all directions)
Death ( )

So this list is only going to get bigger

[unique crag]

Why da hell its having gatling barrel but a lever action trigger

[fickle zinc]

fiction

dont come here for realism

[unique crag]

My brother in conception of reality, this breaks any possible physical or even theoretical law

Do youbhave the blend file

[fickle zinc]

f i c t i o n

[spare scarab]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/970155397442842655/1019676910025965588/caption.gif

[unique crag]

Its not about fiction my dude this completely erases the whole cobcept of how a lever action works like

[spare scarab]

it's fine to imagine whatever weapons in whatever shape

what matters is the .blend

[unique crag]

Yeah I get that but it just feels way too weird for me

[unique crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/565231189875752960/994928334880374824/284064388_1535234760212207_9080600258199093335_n.mp4

[spare scarab]

lmao

[arctic radish]

[fickle zinc]

here it is

[fickle zinc]

\

[spare scarab]

So i'll try to explain what's been going on there

Nobody expects something to be high quality from a beginner, that's just how it is

It's ok to be one, and you've genuinely been making good progress with your work

But you've really been kind of doing extremely similar mistakes that prevent your models from being properly used anywhere, which is sort of the goal, right?

And we've been pointing those out

You focus too much on the look of the things you're making while severely cluttering your workspace and not really being careful of the actual mesh you're making

There is no HIGH level expectation, but there's kind of a minimum requirement for a working, usable mesh

tl;dr - it's not about how the models you post look from the outside, it's about their actual usability in a project if you ever want to use it

and even if you're not planning to use them, doing basic things like texturing may be a little difficult with such a mesh for a beginner

[fickle zinc]

not planning to use them

[spare scarab]

alright, but are you planning to put a texture on them?

[fickle zinc]

no

there just there for fun

[spare scarab]

if you're going to be making plain white guns that won't be used anywhere - sure, no problem then

[pure jackal]

Please just use snipping tool/win-shift-s

[arctic radish]

https://twitter.com/phisnom/status/1570501007884587009?s=46&t=dsAuty6_JWHiShN6cIEHIg

Phil (@phisnom)

that is so aggressively shitty i cant imagine why anyone in their right mind would use Maya over Blender anymore.

no really, can anybody tell me what upsides Maya has over Blender by this point? aside from being "industry standard".

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[spare scarab]

what the FUCK

[pure jackal]

Shoutout to my glitched educational copy of Maya that will never expire

Because the instructor added a 0

[spare scarab]

based

[jagged loom]

blender is alright until you get to animation editing

like what the fuck is that animation editor shit

[arctic radish]

you have animation curves, NLA tracks, Timeline, and those are the only ones that I personally used because you really don't need much more than that

[slate python]

Upgraded the model i've made before

now the heart looks a tad bit more like an actual heart

[arctic radish]

heart shapes are hell to model
so I'd say you did a good job!

[slate python]

But the problem is that i cant figure out how to texture it properly

all the UV's get overlayed on each other

[arctic radish]

oh you need to mark seams'n stuff

and then re-UV unwrap it

[slate python]

and how do i do that?

[arctic radish]

Edit mode > Edge select mode > select edges you'd want to mark as seams > U > Mark edges as seams

then select the parts you'd want to unwrap, press U, UV unwrap

[slate python]

I didn't understand anything you've just said, but i'll try it.

Thanks pal

[arctic radish]

[spare scarab]

that looks sick

[slate python]

Sorry, completely new to blender

[spare scarab]

your artist background is giving u cheats

you're fanstastic for a beginner

[slate python]

yeh, but i can be better

and i will

But i need to learn some stuff first

and also sometimes ask for help of much more skilled people here.

[fickle zinc]

consider this half done

[merry lotus]

it's like

a hunting rifle

mixed with a minigun

[torpid oak]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/979323588085706752/1020449266541535232/unknown.png

[arctic radish]

I need ideas for a tutorial boss

Should I go for:
-overly long, difficult, and multi phase boss
-pushover just to teach the player without actually getting into the difficulty of the game

[pure jackal]

What has the player done thus far before fighting the boss

like is it the actual tutorial boss or the end of first major area boss

[azure flume]

Tutorial boss would be an obstacle where you have to use movement keys and crouch and change mouse direction all at the same time!

[jagged loom]

go for a medium difficulty probably

[arctic radish]

It’s basically a “what have you learned so far” in the tutorial + introduces a new major mechanic about the game mid fight

What I was thinking was a multi phase Furi type boss, where it starts slow but then shit gets real real quick

[pure jackal]

Two phase boss, one without it requiring the mechanic, one with, seems to be the best option for me

[arctic radish]

my idea was a 4 phase boss
1st phase: "do you know how to dodge/ roll"
2nd phase: "Do you know how to shoot and jump"
3rd phase: [Uh oh new mechanic alert]
4th phase: Everything in tandem with each other

[spare scarab]

ery nice, what engine are u using

[unique crag]

Nobody tried to belittle you in fact two people legitimately tried to help you by pointing out your mistakes in the objects youve made (which as Vriska stated seem to be constantly repeating). Not only that but you also cant seem to understand how a blend file works you cant simply throw every single thing in one file and dont even bother to delete, this doesnt even regard the modelling itself its just showing how you put 0 effort in doing anything at least somewhat proper. Nobody wants you to be pro but please if you are to model such things at least make them good before posting here, its useless otherwise to fill the chat with your blender files.

[unique crag]

If you are to make a difficult boss then you have to from now on try to keep up raising the bars with the next boss being even stronger and so on and so on

[arctic radish]

not necessarily, unless it was a linear curve of progression, yes, but otherwise no

[unique crag]

Well I mean idk

E.g in dark soul the bosses get harder and harder as you progress

But depends on what you do

I still feel that the first boss shouldnt be too hard yet good enough to put up a chellenge

[arctic radish]

this game is more or less going to take after (again) Katana Zero
where the difficulty doesn't progress in a linear curve most of the time
esp with bosses

[unique crag]

I see

Well if you want to do that then go for it

[fickle zinc]

under halls starts playing

[desert shard]

Making something for GBjam

[arctic radish]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/538780824955387914/1020693368247963728/Character0_roll.gif

[spare scarab]

Darksoul

[arctic radish]

who said anything about rolling having I-frames

[spare scarab]

Not darksoul...

[fickle zinc]

the only usable one

chose to go back and clean somethings up

[untold niche]

boltgun?

[fickle zinc]

ag 43

[fickle zinc]

does any one have an image of an mg 30

[azure flume]

Have you asked google images that question?

[fickle zinc]

no they dont have any good ones'

had to go by memory and it turned out as bad as you might expect

[spare scarab]

there are tons of great images that can be used as ref on that google search

whatchu talkin about

[fickle zinc]

the mg 30

[spare scarab]

yea?

[fickle zinc]

trying to find a reference img of it

[pure jackal]

Google

It

For fucks sake

Nobody has a spare mg30 lying around to take better pictures at different angles

Use your imagination to fill in the blanks

[long leaf]

nice welrod

[spare scarab]

it

[pure jackal]

M104

[arctic radish]

contemplating just modeling this instead of suffering by doing it by hand

[spare scarab]

model and then draw over

😎

[arctic radish]

Why not just Model

[spare scarab]

because is it really good unless you do it the roundabout way

where's the sense of pride and accomplishment

[pure jackal]

Vriska

Watch your tongue

[arctic radish]

Give it the Cruelty Squad treatment and use a 3D modeled title

in a 3D game

(mostly 3D game)

(old cringe Cassy hours)
I've done it before

[pure jackal]

Yes

YES

DO IT AGAIN

REGRESS SKILLSET TO PROGRESS PROJECT

[fickle zinc]

sure

[pure jackal]

Win
Shift
S

[cunning wing]

katana zero artstyle my beloved

[arctic radish]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/955204824364900363/1020761494260043827/2022-09-17_13-16-18.mp4

[merry lotus]

https://vxtwitter.com/ThePlaz42/status/1571204495857651714 WAKE UP

[jagged loom]

did dave hire you yet?

[merry lotus]

no

[torpid oak]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/979323588085706752/1020774131412779048/unknown.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/979323588085706752/1020774206633418793/unknown.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/979323588085706752/1020774464864145418/unknown.png

this isnt an actual environment in the game btw I just put these trees down for show

[untold niche]

I should be tbh

Just gray fog forest

[spare scarab]

does look great

[torpid oak]

yea but the floor is concrete lol

[untold niche]

That's perfect

It's the concrete urban hell flesh forest

[torpid oak]

black industrial misery

vibes

[untold niche]

Hey

Skade

What if we.. uh... kissed, in the concrete flesh jungle?

[torpid oak]

😳

[minor bear]

https://youtu.be/RT_T-GittpM

fuckkkk

i want that treatment for q3 radiant

[untold niche]

I can't see the specifics of the model but I think the shape looks good

[fickle zinc]

there are some clipping problems however its ok

[untold niche]

I'm not a pro of modelling but yeah flesh it out and get rid of redudant edges and I think it looks alright

[grizzled socket]

does anyone have the coin model?

[untold niche]

What of Ultrakill?

[grizzled socket]

yeah

[untold niche]

I mean you can probably recreate it easily, it just looks like a short cylinder

Guys at #ultrakill-modding might be more helpful though

[grizzled socket]

the texture is what i need tho

thanks

[spare scarab]

still the same issues as your other models

now, you specifically said you're going to use this as a dusk mod gun, so it needs to be a least a little optimised

and this has a ton of cuts that don't serve any purpose really

they'll get in the way once you start detailing

like, realistically it doesnt really matter since it's not a high poly gun and probably wont get in the way of performance

but doing stuff like that will be a bad habit

and it's better to learn how to make it better now than later

[fickle zinc]

kinda knew that was going to be of a problem though its alot more fixable

[fickle zinc]

see heres the thing already knew that was a problem

[spare scarab]

hey there you go, that's much better

you've improved quite a bit

try putting some more detail on that bad boy - some curvy angles and other things

[arctic radish]

I'm addicted to texturing flesh like this

[pastel cave]

Jesus Christ

insane

[untold niche]

The flesh addiction

Can't have enough meat in your life

[pure jackal]

Someone with a cat pfp named "dabean" goes on to make the most bezerk level flesh detail you've seen in years

[arctic radish]

I still have to make the legs, segments, and transition frames

I'm going all out with this Tutorial boss for a fucking minigame

[spare scarab]

hell fuckin yea

[pastel cave]

If anything that simply makes it more impressive

[arctic radish]

oh god it's going to look so weird lighting wise in engine with normal maps

but I'll make it work

[pure jackal]

2d with nornal maps????

[arctic radish]

yes

Godot supports that

and it's wonderful

[fickle zinc]

little did you know

[severe fulcrum]

cool model 👍

[fickle zinc]

flip normals or not?

[spare scarab]

You dont even have them visible

How would i know

[unique crag]

Fuckign lober

First time actually doing some kind of image texturing

Dont know if I should cry or not

[untold niche]

Honestly I like the jank

Feels like if one of those combine bio ships was in cruelty squad

[unique crag]

Oh yeah :DDD

[fickle zinc]

looks like this

[unique crag]

True...

[fickle zinc]

come to think of it its more like this

[arctic radish]

might need to split it up even more, we'll see

[pure jackal]

whoa

[severe fulcrum]

terrifying creature I love it

[pure jackal]

eyescream

[severe fulcrum]

weallscream

[unique crag]

Now make an animation of the fingers tapping in a consecutive way while also having the veins on ther face twitch and move

[merry lotus]

i gave up on the veins project and i replaced it with this GONE FISHING x Squirrel Stapler thing

[sudden imp]

new gloomwood/ultrakill (choose your pick) looks sick

[severe fulcrum]

Gloomwood/Ultrakill looks sick I mean look at that lighting

[severe fulcrum]

Ah yes, comprehensible horrors that may or may not come from my nightmares

[azure flume]

I preferred this before it got human shape

Now it's just a dude in a costume

[arctic radish]

it was either that or having centipede legs

one is marginally harder to deal with than the other

[azure flume]

A ghost with invisible limbs!

[severe fulcrum]

Centipede sounds like a ton of work to get it to keep moving all of the time

[gritty bloom]

hot

[unique crag]

I actually thought you were going to pud the body behind the hand and then put the head over it lmao

[fickle zinc]

gonna need help with something

[desert shard]

Some basic combat for my GBjam entry

[unique crag]

Looks pretty cool but maybe design one of the hands to be a bit diff from the other and maybe the head should be more on the left :D Nonetheless the model looks amazing

[unique crag]

Why

[azure flume]

i just slapped this together in 30 seconds lmao, not my project

[unique crag]

This too

[unique crag]

Ohhh mb then, thought you were the guy who made cuz you hab yellow role too

[azure flume]

heres the original

[unique crag]

I see

[unique crag]

Is it supposed to be like that btw

[fickle zinc]

though a extra was made

in case this one didnt turn out good

[fickle zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/supernatural-dean-winchester-jensen-ackles-all-right-plan-b-gif-15525605

[unique crag]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-gif-9862317

[fickle zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/cry-cryaboutit-blender-blender3d-gif-21381301

[spare scarab]

Me reaching for a sandwich at 3 am

[arctic radish]

Me trying to pick up my meds off the floor (I'm seeing shit, man!)

[azure flume]

Not enough eyeballs?

[fickle zinc]

not sure where to go from here

[azure flume]

try now

[arctic radish]

well given it's chest will open up during one it's attacks
and inside it's chest is a bunch of eyes getting crushed by muscle

there will be enough eyes

[fickle zinc]

was gonna say it would look something like this

[fickle zinc]

how many eyes

[pure jackal]

Lanky man

[arctic radish]

enough eyes

[unique crag]

There os never enough eyes

[cunning wing]

me and the boys

[fickle zinc]

why isnt it spinning

nvm

[fickle zinc]

should this be a group

[spare scarab]

i took a closer look at the file

tell ya hwat

try texturing a model of yours

just like, a basic image of metal and wood in places

and tell us how that goes

[spare scarab]

a lot of these will bite u in the ass once you start detailing

[arctic radish]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/886118765480251433/1021497326012989460/Tutorial_boss_Mockup.png

and the base 1 (One) frame done out of ??? many

[spare scarab]

me when i go for my sandwich at 3 am (but detailed)

[arctic radish]

Fuck I forgor the other phase frames

eh I'll deal with that when I code the first phase

[spare scarab]

🍆

[fickle zinc]

should this be empty for the handel

[fickle zinc]

calm down currently fixing an project

[slate python]

I still haven't figured out UV's.

this crap is too hard for my brain.

[arctic radish]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/955204824364900363/1021890714889617511/2022-09-20_16-03-21.mp4

[unique crag]

Same

[unique crag]

Pes plls PEASLSLCan someone image texture my blend ovjects ple aplses 🪤

[keen lagoon]

I'm curious if anyone knows what mod this is, it looks funny as fuck

[cloud bloom]

I think that might be Temperz's custom punch mod

not totally sure though

[arctic radish]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/955204824364900363/1022152790837055579/2022-09-21_09-23-02.mp4

"Boss armor? tf is that?"

[severe fulcrum]

armour vs the unnmatched power of a lazer

[arctic radish]

I still have to recode the Nuke aspect

because that laser's the primary, the nuke is the secondary

[severe fulcrum]

A NUKE????
HELL YEAH

also gl mate

[fast vault]

Indiana Jones moment

[desert shard]

Finished the main mechanics for my gbjam entry

[fast vault]

That's a pretty clever gameplay mechanic!

[untold niche]

Kind of reminds me of the cat launcher from postal brain damaged

Legit the most fun weapon from that game

[pearl quartz]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7gng5oZw-k