#amid-evil-or-hunt-showdown

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civic ocean
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nvm just the screen% thing

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the environments themselves don't change very noticeably with rtx but the way your projectiles interact with it does

neon agate
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Hi

civic ocean
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at least with light boost

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hi

neon agate
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Just started playing and I'm a little confused about something

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The whispers edge pierces but not always?

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What determines if it does

hallow jasper
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You have to hit them with the edge of it for it to pierce

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Or with soul mode on

neon agate
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With the edge huh

civic ocean
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if the middle of the arc hits, the arc gets absorbed

neon agate
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Does it do full damage with the edge?

civic ocean
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but that also deals more damage

neon agate
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ah

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I see

civic ocean
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so if you are against one enemy, going for direct hits is more viable

neon agate
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What would you say the strength/role of the whispers edge is?

civic ocean
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It being able to hit multiple enemies at once, mostly

neon agate
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mhm

civic ocean
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Also if you are low on other mana, it's more effective at long range than the star of torment

neon agate
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mhm

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Thanks!

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I just started so I don't know what that is yet lol

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Oh and one more thing does the voltride deal more of less damage than the asure orb not counting the overkill lighting

civic ocean
neon agate
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mhm

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Gotcha

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So asure for single enmies

civic ocean
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You can both circumvent its low DPS and utilize its overkill if you're clever

neon agate
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yeah

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Seems to falter enemies consistently as well

civic ocean
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not exactly sure

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you need to fire at enemies for a while to get overkill by the way

neon agate
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yeah

civic ocean
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like 3 to 5 more shots after they die but if you actually land those it's consistent

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but anyway, unless you go for overkill, you should use the azure orb

neon agate
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Does overkill do anything with other weapons?

civic ocean
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no

neon agate
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okie

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Also I found the codex

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Seems the voltride does falter

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falter enemies I mean

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Anyways the game is super fun so far

civic ocean
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oh yeah I guess it can slow them down a bit

oblique knot
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It does consistent damage at most ranges and ammo is plentiful

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And much like that shotgun it fires in a horizontal pattern

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Whereas your star of torment is the super shotgun

civic ocean
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well it's a single-target super shotgun

oblique knot
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It consumes double the ammo per shot at a lower rate for more damage and with a shorter range

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Sorta

civic ocean
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2.7x the damage (with the star of torment)

oblique knot
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Close

civic ocean
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worth it against big targets with lots of health

oblique knot
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Dooms shotgun does up to 105 damage per shot if all pellets connect

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Whereas the super shotgun does up to 300 damage

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So the damage model is actually kinda similar

neon agate
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uwu

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Haven't found star of torment yet

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Is it in the first episode?

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If it's like the ssg then I'm hyped

civic ocean
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I don't remember using the star of torment in the first episode really so it's possible that it isn't there or is in a secret

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first episode doesn't really have an enemy type you need it against though

finite shuttle
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I think it's Ep.2

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but I could be wrong

neon agate
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mhm

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How many episodes are there

civic ocean
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first episode has pretty low-health, small enemies

finite shuttle
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7

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4 levels each I think

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3 normal, one boss

civic ocean
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powered-up whisper's edge and azure orb kick ass by the way

neon agate
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mhm

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btw azure orb on upscroll and voltride on downscroll is really good lol

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pepper a small enemy with azure orb then switch to volride

civic ocean
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it's a nice combo but make sure to use all mana types

neon agate
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mhm

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of course

civic ocean
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powered up azure orb has a higher damage per shot than unpowered celestial claw and star of torment

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it absolutely deletes shit at close range

neon agate
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Yeah I just got the the first boss and I had a soul charge

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Beat him in like 15 seconds

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w/ the azure orb

strange mist
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Liquidfy them all

frigid moth
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Turning asshole monsters into water

ivory wyvern
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Hog anus

civic ocean
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Still hoping that custom levels become a possibility one day

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I also hope for multiplayer even if it's highly unlikely to ever become a thing.

neon agate
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I only just realized amid evil sounds like midevil lol

strange mist
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*Medieval

neon agate
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that^

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lol

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Btw does hard mode have more enemies on the maps?

civic ocean
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Difficulty settings change the amount of enemies and maybe item pickups

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Also boss health and how many souls it takes to get soul mode

neon agate
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Nice

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Is hard the highest?

hallow jasper
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There's a slightly hidden evil difficulty

neon agate
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ooo

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Sounds fun

civic ocean
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I want to give some feedback on RTX sometime.

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Though maybe it's still in a purely technical stage and the "how will we make the best use of this" stage only comes later

proper oxide
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i hope ae gets a marauder type enemy

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jk, i know leon isnt capable of coding ai more advanced than "occupy same spot as player"

brazen herald
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i hope ae gets daring sim elements

proper oxide
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daring sim?

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bro

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i TRIPLE DOG DARE YOU to call leon a filtered word in his dms

brazen herald
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i fuckin hate autocorrect

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tfw no new orange mana weapon

crystal spruce
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๐Ÿ—ก๏ธ dlc now

night ginkgo
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no

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not finished

crystal spruce
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wrong channel clearly my bad

frigid moth
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tfw when dlc is not out

faint aurora
lilac copper
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tfw you only care about getting the DLC right this moment when Leon is going to be killed by RTX sadleon

night ginkgo
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you're absolutely right

frosty drift
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leon

frigid moth
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rtx is holding leon at gunpoint

night ginkgo
topaz gorge
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leon this game would be better if it included a free chicken sandwich

night ginkgo
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Yeah

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I do like a good chicken sandwich

vocal ingot
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r'ntx

night ginkgo
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Lmao

frigid moth
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if you buy amid evil leon will personally deliver a chicken sandwhich to your door

topaz gorge
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i wish ๐Ÿ˜”

brazen herald
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preorder now and get mayo

civic ocean
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Why do the enemies in the forges bleed?

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It's something I never understood.

night ginkgo
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BLOOD IS FUEL

civic ocean
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i expected that answer

night ginkgo
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Cool

faint aurora
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Leon, will we ever be Amid Good?

frosty drift
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Impossible

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There's good and then there's amid evi

faint aurora
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But what if I'm surrounded by wholesome Cacodemons?

brazen herald
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evil version of the champion who ultimately kills Good

brazen forge
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Why does long hair Leon remind me slightly of Kars from jojo
Thanks, can i have free dusk key

crystal spruce
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email dave

inland flicker
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i am just rewatching part 2

crystal spruce
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Leon

lilac copper
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that's simmo

crystal spruce
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noo

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I've never seen simmo in my life

twin grotto
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am I missing something, or are your weapons supposed to be reset with every episode?

lilac copper
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yes

lethal elk
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ye

lilac copper
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you get to find them again because it's fun ๐Ÿ™‚

lethal elk
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or else no balance

twin grotto
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damn, alright

crystal spruce
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uhh yes

inland flicker
crystal spruce
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but that's not the long hair edit

inland flicker
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oh so show it to me

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pls

topaz gorge
wispy estuary
crystal spruce
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leon sanchez looking tired :c

lilac copper
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RTX is slowly killing him

night ginkgo
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I've always looked tired

lilac copper
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have you tried sleeping LMAO

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this joke was made by the trial mod gang

brazen forge
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Leon requires Chinese food

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the AE dev fuel

night ginkgo
crystal spruce
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lack of mana sad af

lilac copper
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that doesnt sound good

devout olive
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yea

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simmo is just bald leon

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and with a better sleeping pattern

dry drift
night ginkgo
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I've had that before, it's horrible

dry drift
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shit

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it really sucks

smoky cypress
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Yeah extremely unfun times, I am writing this in the third hour past the time I programmed I would sleep in

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It's 3 am here

dry drift
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shit

night ginkgo
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I've had it full on where I can't sleep, like I have taken sleeping pills and still nothing happens

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luckilly not for a while

dry drift
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i take sleeping pills

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kinda sucks cause i feel so productive at night

night ginkgo
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I only take them on time I really can't sleep at all

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like if I'm still awake at 5-6am

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but they fuck with my brain a bit, so I try not to take them

dry drift
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i see

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i take them when it becomes unbearable to stay up but i cant sleep

crystal spruce
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No more video games at night young man!

civic ocean
neon agate
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How do you set the difficulty in horde mode?

vital mist
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Don't believe you can.

neon agate
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mhm

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Also

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Does health spawn between waves at all/ can you recover health in horde mode

vital mist
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It's been a while since I played, I think i only touched survival when it first dropped or AE's initial early access launch, but I remember them spawning after a set amount of time

night ginkgo
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A small amount of health spawns

vital mist
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hi leon

night ginkgo
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Hi

vital mist
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How's the DLC coming along?

night ginkgo
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Good

vital mist
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Epic

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Best NB game malicioushappy

night ginkgo
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Ultrakill?

vital mist
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nah AE

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AE, Fallen Aces, Ultrakill, gloomy

devout olive
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tul suckin up

vital mist
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dam

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u got me

devout olive
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big time

vital mist
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nah i just find AE to be the best one lol

devout olive
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ur busted

night ginkgo
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No mention of dusk?

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Bruh

devout olive
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busk

vital mist
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Dusk has EP2 ๐Ÿ˜”

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Really didn't enjoy EP2 and it killed the game for me lol

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Took months to go back and play EP3

night ginkgo
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Oh wow really? I liked it

vital mist
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I like its start but past that eh kinda got super bored of it.

devout olive
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funny, that's like everyone else's favourite episode

vital mist
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Loved the music tho

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EP1 and 3 are perfect

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Just really didn't enjoy EP2

night ginkgo
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Your thoughts on the forges in AE?

vital mist
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Pretty solid episode.

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Each episode got better imo

night ginkgo
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Nice lol

civic ocean
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The Forges definitely did feel like a place that didn't want you to live

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It did that well though

night ginkgo
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Some people hate it

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Some people love it

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Same with the sacred path

civic ocean
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It did piss me off once or twice but I don't hate it, I like it just as much as any other episode

night ginkgo
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Everyone seems to love solar solstice tho

civic ocean
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I like them all. Good variety, good places, it's nice.

vital mist
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Final episode was fuckin wild

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P unique for a final level set. approved

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Still need to try out that RTX level? or episode whatever it was tho

night ginkgo
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Level.

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Yeah you should

devout olive
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e7 is the hard one for me, or at least e7m2

civic ocean
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First level of the Void had barely any health near the end and the beginning of the second map didn't have any either, so that was a part where I was desperate

devout olive
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also e6 is the best one

vital mist
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Can't recall the episode orders, but E6 is the mage themed level right?

devout olive
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ye

night ginkgo
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Yep

devout olive
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the one with the piano music

vital mist
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Anegimata or w/e its spelt. best track malicioushappy

night ginkgo
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Aetheres is the most popular track

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But I like all of them

vital mist
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AE's OST is also Andrew's best work.

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Dusk has some banging tracks but love how tranquil AE can get.

devout olive
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final boss theme is awesome

vital mist
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Finality is so good.

devout olive
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where it brings in the logo sound

night ginkgo
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Yeah that was really cool

civic ocean
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I like the trumpets in Evorsus

night ginkgo
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I think time vacuum was the first track he made for AE

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Fond memories of that track

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The dlc stuff is really cool so far as well :^)

vital mist
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You and Simmo? are doing a sci-fi game next right?

devout olive
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can't wait for y'all to see it

vital mist
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Legally distinct AE2 maliciouspog

devout olive
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nah

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not in the slightest

civic ocean
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Wait what

night ginkgo
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It's got nothing to do with AE lol

civic ocean
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Are you talking about BL

night ginkgo
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It's completely new

civic ocean
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dam

vital mist
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It is definitely AE2

devout olive
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it's got graphics

vital mist
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it's part of the NBEU

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AE2 was a spinoff sci-fi rpg LeonApproved

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laptops have alexa built in?

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why tho

night ginkgo
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Should run it no problem

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The classic test is: if it can run fortnite it can run AE

civic ocean
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Can probably run the RTX version too at a low resolution

night ginkgo
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No guarantees on RTX on a laptop

vital mist
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yeah don't see RTX working on laptops

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It's not the greatest as is on PCs lol

civic ocean
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idk I have a 1660Ti and a 1650 isn't weaker by that much probably

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but yeah no guarantee

vital mist
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Is the RTX level built in now?

night ginkgo
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Yup

vital mist
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A neat

night ginkgo
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Uh but it might be on the RTX branch

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I can't remember if it's on the normal one

civic ocean
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the level itself is in the normal branch too

night ginkgo
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Oh good

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It's been a while

vital mist
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Where even is the RTX branch? Didn't notice it in the beta list

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unless its a code

night ginkgo
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You have to enter a code

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It's on the steam forums

civic ocean
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It has Amid Evil graphics

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BTW a suggestion for the RTX is to make projectiles brighter, especially suns fired from the celestial claw.

night ginkgo
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Yup

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There's a few changes

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We're just stuck on a few issues which is why there hasn't been any updates

civic ocean
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The azure orb's projectiles look awesome with the shadows they cast but currently suns have too little light currently to do that

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Also would it be possible to make the first person weapons emit light too?

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Afaik they are in the world just as much as any other sprite

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Like I could hold a sun with the claw and illuminate everything around me with it

night ginkgo
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Maybe

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It might go a bit weird so I'll see

frigid moth
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leon creates the sun in unreal engine 4

crystal spruce
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Yo I love Applied Energetics 2

civic ocean
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I'm slowly updating/creating wiki pages for the weapons

crystal spruce
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i was gonna comment on the state of the wiki in this channel but never got to it

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thanks perx

civic ocean
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I'll also revise this one

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I think I don't have permission to delete pages but maybe a cleanup/reorganization would be neat

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A general framework of what needs its own page and what doesn't

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I can rename stuff like this at least, I guess

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I don't recall that being their name in the codex, at least

civic ocean
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but perhaps pages that only contain one sentence and are about something that could be talked about in a larger page with other related things don't necessarily have to stay

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in overall cleanness, it looks better than the Dusk wiki, though

oblique knot
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Tbh why not new blood wiki

night ginkgo
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idk about that wiki, it's very not good visually

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it's like not nice to read

proper oxide
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Lmao NB game wikis

rustic barn
devout olive
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wait for it, leon's about to call seal a fat bitch

crystal spruce
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he muted

proven oak
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amid evil RTX blue screened my PC yesterday lol

brazen herald
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need... rtx card...

civic ocean
upbeat grotto
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yeah but... that's at 33% res scale

civic ocean
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33% res scale actually looks good in amid evil

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only 3x pixelization

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or, well, depends on your display, but I think it's always 360p and it doesn't look too chunky

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and it's better than blur

devout olive
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70% res scale with taa on works well for me

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I would say don't turn light boost on but that's not even a thing yet on the public branch is it?

civic ocean
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It is

devout olive
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okay well don't turn light boost on

civic ocean
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It's good on some things

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Bad on some other things

devout olive
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it'll cut fps in half though

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where applicable

civic ocean
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idk seeing projectile light cast shadows is good

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it's probably the most noticeable feature RTX can provide

devout olive
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it literally just turns up intensity of rt lights

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the static ones

civic ocean
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pretty sure it changes projectiles too

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imma test again tho

devout olive
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why bother

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straight from leon

civic ocean
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doesn't seem to be the case on my branch

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light boost does increase brightness of azure orb projectiles for me

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and it looks pretty awesome

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whisper's edge too

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but only their unpowered attacks

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Unpowered azure orb, unpowered whisper's edge and powered star of torment all change with light boost and they all cast pretty shadows with it

crystal spruce
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Is leon gaming today?

dry drift
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i hope so

lilac copper
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still dont know what you mean by that kekw

frigid moth
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leon schedule

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1: wake up

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2: gaem

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3: piss

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4: sleep (or, try to)

lilac copper
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you forgot chinese food

night ginkgo
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OH SHIT

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yeah I better get some

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they closing soon

civic ocean
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Gilby has not admitted that I was right and it hurts my ego

vital mist
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You will never be right

civic ocean
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:(

civic ocean
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I have yet to become decent, yet alone good at website styling and more advanced wiki editing, so I wouldn't be able to do much even if I had permission to do so

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Might get there in the near future though

civic ocean
civic ocean
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Also created Voltride page

split coyote
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Amid Evil wiki

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Now that's something I didn't know I needed, but absolutely do

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Awesome work pepe_king_heart

crystal spruce
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technically been around since like 2018

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just not exactly well maintained since then

civic ocean
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I'll try to get the weapon and enemy pages going at least

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Not exactly sure how to handle the codex errors. Some I keep, typos I typically don't.
At least I assume it's "the lands of lightning" and not "the lands of lighting" and such

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I wish gamepedia ads were in a place where they don't fuck up the content of the site

night ginkgo
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the codex lmao

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yeah I should really fix it sometime

civic ocean
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Does the aeturnum do like big chunks of damage and then add some very tiny damage on top

night ginkgo
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Hmm?

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I think it does ~100 damage per trace

civic ocean
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Oh now I have refererce thanks :^)
It seems to do +2 damage to anything within line of sight too though

night ginkgo
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I can give you the actual details

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Tomorrow

civic ocean
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Oh that'd be cool, but it's also fun trying to reverse engineer stuff

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I decided to use the tap-fire of the powered voltride as a damage unit, which I guess could be the internal one too

crystal spruce
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AE dev doesn't know how he coded the weapons
cringe

civic ocean
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Powered up whisper's edge confused me a bit, but I guess it's just double damage the first time it hits

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also sometimes it doesn't emit a hit sound, not sure what's behind that

civic ocean
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My guess is that the sound only plays once the enemy has taken a multiple of the full damage

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So it only triggers sometimes if you do less than full damage

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The results check out.

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doin the astral dance

frigid moth
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speeen

civic ocean
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indeed

night ginkgo
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What the fuck

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How did that happen

lilac copper
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it's pretty damn entertaining tho

celest totem
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YO HE'S FUCKING BREAKDANCING

civic ocean
lilac copper
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I get sandstorm playing in my head when I look at that

civic ocean
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the black hole basically turns them into these rigid props with very low gravity and aestop makes them survive somehow

night ginkgo
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Ah good it was with cheats

brazen herald
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srtaight vibin'

night ginkgo
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Can someone add 'you spin me right round' to that gif lol

civic ocean
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it's a bit awkwardly short though

lilac copper
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nah its good

celest totem
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worthy of a pin imo

night ginkgo
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Hahaha perfect

night ginkgo
faint aurora
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If anyone asks me what the game is, I'll just show them this

night ginkgo
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Cool

civic ocean
lilac copper
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hahaha

night ginkgo
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Lmao

faint aurora
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They look so lost haha

proper oxide
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i like leon

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๐Ÿ˜Š

night ginkgo
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really?

proper oxide
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yes

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ur a cool dude

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who doesnt afraid of anything

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and doesnt spam their twitter with doom3 shotgun

night ginkgo
proper oxide
night ginkgo
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that song is so good

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80s aussies had some great music

proper oxide
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its a song designed to listen on repeat

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when i was driving across the country i listened to it at least 3-4 times per day

night ginkgo
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nice lol

proper oxide
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only listened to the wall once tho

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tons of radiohead however

night ginkgo
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nice

snow basin
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why is amid evil running on the apu

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i have a new computer that probably runs ae better than my previous one but my computer is also making it run on the apu and idk why

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nvm i was on battery saver

topaz gorge
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bazinga

snow basin
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omg amid evil feels so good

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the new raytracing level is nice and i think the choice of music is a really good tune thats gonna get stuck in my head

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with this new laptop i can now beat the shit out of things with the axe at 144hz

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so much ecstasy

crystal spruce
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Leon releases new dlc for amid evil cuz he cant afford his expensive noodles obssesion

night ginkgo
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yes? and?

signal quartz
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Leon needs money, yet NB hates money...Leon struggles for his life...

devout olive
night ginkgo
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lmao nice

topaz gorge
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hi leon

night ginkgo
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hi

topaz gorge
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do you think im swag?

night ginkgo
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sure

snow basin
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how do i calculate dps for the ae weapons

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bc i want to see how good the trident is

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ive been starting to appreciate the quake nailguns a lot since they do more dps than the shotguns

civic ocean
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Azure orb has 14, and consumes much less mana

snow basin
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how about a damage chart for each weapon?

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also whoa

civic ocean
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I'm working on adding tables to the AE wiki

snow basin
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then i guess the strength in trident is just chain lightning

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ill go read the ae wiki then

civic ocean
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yes, but that chain lightning is super strong

civic ocean
snow basin
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ye the chain lightning is super strong tho

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but only when you can pull off one

civic ocean
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It does 50 damage with each strike

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Which instakills most enemies

snow basin
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a

civic ocean
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The heaviest regular enemies seem to have 250 health (sol butchers and giant guardians)

topaz gorge
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are we amidst evilness

snow basin
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among sus

civic ocean
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BTW as comparison, powered azure orb has 187.5 DPS, powered axe and (powered) star of torment have like 250

topaz gorge
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i need amid evil font for all letters

civic ocean
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I might just add the damage tables to the wiki this afternoon

snow basin
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azure orb is the embodiment of that wikihow drawing of a person waterhosing a dog

civic ocean
#

it fucking deletes shit at a low cost

#

it's awesome

snow basin
civic ocean
#

also some enemies take extra damage from some weapons

snow basin
#

ye

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id guess so

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but i dont have good intuition

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i saw those water enemies in the lost falls

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and idk what to hit them with bc everything kinda just works fine anyways

civic ocean
#

I haven't tested if they take extra damage from anything

#

I do guesswork and test if my guesses match the in-game results

#

I could also just ask Leon but it's kind of fun trying to reverse engineer stuff

snow basin
#

axe is my favourite ae weapon still

#

since its such a great melee weapon

civic ocean
#

Yeah it destroys shit

#

It's genuinely the best option against a lot of enemies

snow basin
#

ye

civic ocean
#

Some also take extra damage from it

snow basin
#

i just need to master pulling stuff into the axe and not taking damage from said stuff

civic ocean
#

I wonder if the axe will be at the beginning or the end of the Black Labyrinth DLC

snow basin
#

i havent heard about the black labyrinth dlc for a while now actually

#

also void enemies are really weak to the axe

civic ocean
#

yes some of them take double or maybe triple damage from it

#

they are pure evil

snow basin
#

civvie 11 said that void enemies are kinda unpredictable

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at least with the movement

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but i dont notice it since i just mow the lightweights down

civic ocean
#

yeah

snow basin
#

ill go test the thing tho

civic ocean
#

i don't know shit about voltride overkill by the way
as in, i don't know how many hits it takes and what exactly it could depend on

snow basin
#

alright

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also how long the target is in the stunned state for you to charge up for overkill

civic ocean
#

not very long

#

if you miss you are likely to miss out on the overkill too

snow basin
#

ye

civic ocean
#

maybe not when powered up

snow basin
#

the weapon is kinda high risk in that way

civic ocean
#

powered up voltride basically just makes overkills easier

snow basin
#

i kinda wish some of the weapons at least stunned the enemies a little

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or slow down the movements

civic ocean
#

All of them seem to stun them

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But it seems to be like in doom where the stun chance is per hit

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so more hits means more stuns

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and the voltride shoots fast

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also the star of torment shoots 9 shards at once so it also stuns well

snow basin
#

i see

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also i just realized how much i rely on the amid evil wiki and want to give gratitude

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since i use the images on it for reference in drawing fanart

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ye star of torment is good at stunning

raven stirrup
#

Love star of torment cause it's awesome but fuck the star of torment cause it reminds me I'm bad at aiming

#

planet claw is comfort zone

civic ocean
#

I've never seen a solegionare deflect a planet

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Out of like a hundred direct shots

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So it's probably safe to assume they just can't do that

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They don't even block it, they actually die

lilac copper
#

would be fun to see a planet being deflected tho

civic ocean
#

not sure about that

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not to speak of black holes

#

I'm not sure what they do to star of torment shots

#

they might simply have a resistance against it and not actually block it at all

oblique knot
#

Its happened to me

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I almost died to one once

civic ocean
#

It must be extremely rare then

oblique knot
#

Its probably cause of timing

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Considering its all about if you hit the shield or not

civic ocean
#

i've shot at them with all sorts of timings and they died to the planet each and every time

oblique knot
#

I believe its not random but moreso dependant on where you hit them

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As in, the shield has its own hitbox

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Which actually causes attacks to bounce off

#

Would be cool of Leon could confirm

civic ocean
#

i'm shooting the shield and they simply die

oblique knot
#

They bounced it off for me

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Might be cause the planets have a big hitbox

civic ocean
#

must be extremely rare if it can really happen

oblique knot
#

Maybe not rare

#

I dont wanna think this game is very RNG based

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Thatd actually be an interesting thing to look into though

#

If its all set values or more RNG based like in Doom

civic ocean
#

Well I'm not saying it's random necessarily but it doesn't seem to be connected to where you hit them

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It does also seem to be random tho

#

but I'm not even sure if it happens in the first place. I should record my attempts and rewatch because there have been a few times where something looked a bit like a reflect but i couldn't tell because it was amid chaos

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Maybe each time they deflect something they take some of the damage, like about half.

civic ocean
#

tried with suns and they reflect those quite consitently

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but not planets

oblique knot
civic ocean
#

Yes, with suns

oblique knot
civic ocean
#

Out of hundreds of attempts they have deflected no planets at me

#

whereas they always reflect suns if you give them a bit of time to recover

snow basin
#

i remember being able to spam the celestial cla

#

w

#

if you timed your clicking right you could make it fire super fast

visual sail
#

There used to be an issue where the fire rate was tied to the framerate. so running at like 61fps you could fire weapons faster

feral ridge
#

the celestial claw*

civic ocean
snow basin
#

i was having trouble using it bc my amid evil was running on borderless

#

sometimes my clicks werent registering

#

so i switched to another video mode and forgot to test the claw

civic ocean
#

It shoots every half a second if you click at that speed

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Shoots more like every 0.62 s otherwise

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same speed as TF2 shotgun

snow basin
#

ye its devistating bc otherwise i wasnt really too into the claw

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since i already had other cool weapons

#

but when i figured that out the claw started to be cool

civic ocean
#

it might actually make sense to let creepers turn into flame wraiths

#

they die just as quickly to the azure orb but drop 12 soul instead of 5

#

btw fire visages don't seem to be able to ignite them, immersion ruined

civic ocean
#

soul power ๐Ÿ“ˆ

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lol what's the music in aesthetic mode

snow basin
#

i wish ppl talked about the concept of enemy ai leading their shots more

civic ocean
#

some enemies lead some of their attacks

#

I think it's best kept a special thing as opposed to something enemies do constantly

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Only two I know are like that are the solar saint's slam and the evil's orange mana stuff

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both of which have a long lead up

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which is how it should be in my opinion

oblique knot
#

It can be pretty annoying

#

Sometimes its okay

#

Like Prodeus fiends do it

snow basin
#

also the hook men in the forges

civic ocean
#

we don't talk about those

devout olive
#

don't discuss the hookers

snow basin
#

thats like calling herobrine heroin

topaz gorge
#

among evil

snow basin
#

when the champion is heretic

proper oxide
#

Whenโ€™s Leon gonna stream on the official nb channel

civic ocean
#

That would be cool

#

I want that

frosty drift
#

leon is too good for the NB stream

#

we need leon stream

#

leave the NB stream for ๐Ÿ’ฉ losers ๐Ÿ’ฉ

vital mist
#

Dam

wispy estuary
#

Dang

topaz gorge
#

is the evil amid?

civic ocean
topaz gorge
#

WOW

civic ocean
#

yea

#

twitter feed hiding this from me even though I sort by latest nah it wasn't

#

tho maybe I'm just blind and think it's an ad at a glance due to the colorfulness lol

#

twitter ads fuck readability kinda hard when you just want to scroll through to get updates on shit actually maybe not, i'm just blind

night ginkgo
#

oh yeah I forgot to post that lol

civic ocean
#

it's good shit

civic ocean
#

I'd so gladly work on an Amid Evil map editor if I got a chance to work for NB in my life

rustic barn
#

nb office janitor

civic ocean
#

yes

#

I want to program stuff but I'm not one of those people who started programming as a kid so it might take a few years to get to that level

topaz gorge
#

nb swag enforcer ๐Ÿ˜Ž

signal quartz
#

hype

civic ocean
#

oh apparently Evil difficulty increases enemy health by 25%. That explains some stuff. Quite a lot, actually.

#

Not for flame spirits (blue flame guys), though? Not sure if there are any other exceptions, but their health doesn't change for some reason.

#

It remains 64

#

nvm they are not the only one

civic ocean
#

fire visages seem to do the same

night ginkgo
#

oh my god you're right

#

haha

civic ocean
#

is it some sort of a bug

night ginkgo
#

yes

#

I'm looking thru the code

#

also looks like the moon + sun boss are missing it too

#

crystal snakes are missing it

#

everything else is fine

#

the water spirits in the waterfall level are missing it

#

I need to fix this

#

iirc it's because some animation was bugging out

civic ocean
#

How much is the max damage of the celestial claw?

vale dew
#

Hm, is the Selenic Stronghold the same temple from the last episode of DUSK?

#

It looks similar on the outside anyway.

civic ocean
#

if the game was balanced with this bug, it might need some adjustments if it gets fixed lol

#

not that double health soler saint would be absolutely unbeatable, but still

#

same for moon guardian

#

Does the forgemaster have a weird amount of health? Looks like 1975

night ginkgo
#

Sounds about right, I can confirm it tomorrow

prisma grove
#

I have really bad news about the gaming industry for you

jolly mortar
#

Well that funky blue area from Black Labyrinth is going in my desktops folder.

finite shuttle
#

lamo

civic ocean
crystal spruce
#

atleast amid evil was playable at release lmao

night ginkgo
#

early access helped a lot with that btw

faint aurora
#

Those Black Labyrinth pictures look great, Leon

night ginkgo
#

they're all by @cinder mist actually

#

it's a cool level so far

crystal spruce
#

ye but simmo is never here

cinder mist
#

yeah we got a bunch more in the works

#

its all looking sweet

cinder mist
crystal spruce
#

RARE SIMMO

lilac copper
#

you need to start memeing about simmo too so maybe he'll say more things in here lol

lethal elk
#

the man behind leon

cinder mist
#

just tag me

crystal spruce
#

@cinder mist hello ur epic

silver cape
#

So is the black labyrinth, the new project mentioned on the official amid evil twitter or is it something else

night ginkgo
#

see simon does all the work while I shitpost here

#

it's very synergistic

night ginkgo
#

prequel DLC

silver cape
#

ok

#

I thought it was something else, regardless I'm excited

night ginkgo
#

new weapons, enemies, levels

#

etc

proper oxide
#

2 new weapons, 1 new enemy, no new music, half a level at best

#

Very disappointing at bestsadboy

night ginkgo
#

oh yeah new music too

#

andrew gonna kill me

proper oxide
#

Can he even fit you in his schedule?

#

Dudes super busy now, yeah?

grand haven
#

Leon had to spend his Chinese food budget for the next four months just to afford Andrew's new rates.

night ginkgo
#

bingo

wispy estuary
#

No Chinese for leon

#

Stupid Newzie has to eat Kiwi

sudden smelt
#

go grant

#

wooooooo

faint aurora
#

To save Leon's Seaseme Chicken, the music shall be the filled with the basement music from RE1

#

Director's Cut

civic ocean
#

So does the Forgemaster have 1975 health?

night ginkgo
#

that's base health

#
easy 1000
medium 1250
hard 1500
evil 2000
civic ocean
#

Ah yes I'm dumb

#

I counted 65 axe swings + 25 damage but I doubled the result from the axe damage multiplication in my head for whatever reason

#

Thank

#

Not sure why I didn't question myself on that result and recalculate

#

Also does he perhaps have a resistance to powered azure orb but not to anything else or was I stupid yet again?

night ginkgo
#

nope

#

he has no resistances

civic ocean
#

Must have been yet another miscalculation on my end

civic ocean
#

How does overkill work?

night ginkgo
#

there's a limit per enemy of how much negative health they get to go overkill

#

this guy is -10 hp for example

#

yep

civic ocean
#

is it not like 0 for the water guys

night ginkgo
#

the water spirits?

#

it's -10

civic ocean
#

oh ok i see

#

I'm guessing some damage gets registered twice when an enemy dies

#

sometimes they get overkilled by a single whisper's edge strike (not from full health)

plucky isle
#

wait waht the fuck

#

nais posted this recently

#

lmao

civic ocean
#

It was me but I changed my nick to na1s because na1s changed his nick to sarm

plucky isle
#

sick motherfuckers

#

nick swappers

civic ocean
#

well, at least when it comes to damage it's consistent. there is at least one area in the game where it always fails

#

which you could argue is also a type of consistency because it consistently fails there

#

anyway, voltride overkill lightning doesn't work here either, so I'm guessing it gets obstructed by water that can change or something

#

it works fine in stationary water

topaz gorge
#

amid evil

civic ocean
topaz gorge
terse frost
#

lol

manic dragon
#

Yes ping loen

night ginkgo
#

cultists

#

?

#

meme fail

topaz gorge
#

wow

#

i am die

lilac copper
#

think the enemy names are in the codex sadleon

devout olive
#

the leon was not amused

topaz gorge
#

ping leon
meme fail

#

have mercy

lilac copper
#

fix your meme lol

topaz gorge
#

attempt 2

frigid moth
#

you are now live

night ginkgo
#

Dank

crystal spruce
#

Holly shit

#

it's amid evil from hell baby

prisma grove
#

They finished the video game franchise

#

Hopefully they'll reboot it in the next few years.

crystal spruce
#

leon feet

civic ocean
#

no

smoky cypress
civic ocean
#

was the azure orb really purple for a while? In the 2017 gameplay reveal it's blue, and it's blue now too, but in footage from like two years ago it's purple

night ginkgo
#

No, it's always been blue

#

Might just be lighting

devout olive
#

azure is a shade of blue after all

civic ocean
#

maybe the graphics settings were wacky in those videos

#

Azure orb deletes flame boys in one second

topaz gorge
#

sword soul mode

#

slashy slashy

night ginkgo
#

The sword I swear it's legit

#

Especially for groups, it's very versatile

oblique knot
#

Dear leon, what are the true recommended specs for thyne incredible game

#

For while my hardware may be lacking, it appears to exceed the ones listed on thyne sellspost on steam

night ginkgo
#

What's your specs?

oblique knot
#

2013 era hardware with an HD 7850 sapphire

#

Not sure which CPU

#

But clocked to a point where it exceeds the requirements listed on steam

night ginkgo
#

It might be on the borderline, I didn't set the steam specs

oblique knot
#

That might be an explanation, its just pretty off since the requirements are something to buy games by

night ginkgo
#

What resolution is your monitor

#

And what sorta frames do you get

oblique knot
#

1920 by 1080

#

Standard stuff

#

I run it at 100% res with high ish settings but with postprocessing turned off

#

It runs pretty smoothly in most places but then theres areas like the large water area in Map 1 of the Forges where it just tanks to what feels like 30-25

#

I haven't been able to get razer cortex to give me an FPS counter/diagram

#

And im weary with the steam overlay cause it causes serious performance issues in my experience

night ginkgo
#

Right

#

So is it just that area in the forges?

oblique knot
#

Theres some others

#

The forges as a whole are probably the worst spot

#

Another one is E3M3

night ginkgo
#

I'll have to look into it

#

Shadows are probably the most expensive thing for that card

#

You could try high or medium for them

oblique knot
#

I noticed that one area in the forges also has pretty bad reflexion ghosting when using TAA

#

Im already using high

night ginkgo
#

Ah

#

Yeah TAA would likely be affected by frame rate

oblique knot
#

That might explain it then

#

I stopped using it eventually cause it looked too blurry

night ginkgo
#

We have a fix for it though

#

Upcoming

#

It's mainly when looking in water

oblique knot
#

Yeah that was the main issue

#

Ill try getting some more accurate frames later

#

Just need to find an alternative to get an FPS counter into the game

cinder mist
#

azure orb was purple for a while

#

i remember

#

i wanted to have it be a bit different from the voltride, like how the star of torment is a pale green compared to whispers edge, but it didnt look as cool as just making it blue in the end

night ginkgo
#

Oh nice, see Simon doesn't have brain damage like me

cinder mist
#

it also used to shoot triangles

night ginkgo
#

Haha now that I remember

civic ocean
#

lmao the jump sound

night ginkgo
#

The blue gem?

cinder mist
#

oh yeah it was blue

#

back when the axe was gonna be every weapon

#

here's purple azure orb

civic ocean
#

oh wait it's a different slot

night ginkgo
#

Yeah it was place holder

cinder mist
#

some unseen gifs from early on

#

look how slow everything is

#

red halls of doom + unused crystal enemies

civic ocean
#

was "metal hedgehog" ever the official name for spike drones

wild flame
# cinder mist

At what point in development did combat become so fast?

analog silo
wild flame
#

true

#

i'm just thinking that the gifs posted look super slow, especially compared to the finished game

analog silo
#

my bad

#

I thought you were saying that the crystal clip in particular was faster than the release version

#

yeah it does look a lot slower now that you mention it

cinder mist
#

just adjusting till it felt really fun

#

as new enemies and weapons and features were added

wild flame
#

cool!

#

thanks

cinder mist
#

one more example, check how slow the star of torment was lmao

#

and it was only one side of the screen

#

this is quite early on

civic ocean
#

can I maybe have the image files used for enemies/pickups from the codex? Would be convenient to use those on the wiki

#

I managed to cut out the weapons very well from screenshots but not the enemies or pickups because they overlap a bit and also seem to have a bunch of semi-transparent stuff

#

Also do those exist for boss enemies perhaps?

frigid moth
#

wait the weapons are sprites?

civic ocean
#

yes

frigid moth
#

i never noticed that

vital mist
#

Smh

rustic barn
#

Why is it that when I switch to this channel my phone starts to lag

civic ocean
#

because discord

civic ocean
#

what the fuck i can't even move more than 2 wiki pages at a time because I get restricted

frosty drift
#

that button shows up pretty much everywhere

civic ocean
#

I know

#

Gave it a try. Could have asked here too, I guess?

civic ocean
#

I should be sleeping but I'm stuck listening to Obelisk

civic ocean
topaz gorge
#

'mid 'vil

civic ocean
night ginkgo
#

yeah

#

technically it negative hurts you lmao

#

if I remember right

civic ocean
#

should do the half-life door thing where it overheals you indefinitely

#

would definitely improve the experience

#

@night ginkgo can you perhaps give me enemy/pickup sprites from the codex for use on the wiki?

lethal elk
#

ask simmo tbh

#

he's the artist iirc

frigid moth
#

the water unhurts you

night ginkgo
oblique knot
#

Can it heal my trauma

frigid moth
#

it can only heal the hp bar

civic ocean
topaz gorge
#

WOW

#

context?

civic ocean
#

Amid Evil wiki

#

I'm renaming the things to what they are in the in-game codex

#

So no more Metal Hookers and Metal Hedgehogs sadleon

#

So no more Metal Hookers and Metal Hedgehogs sadleon

#

(thank you discord)

topaz gorge
#

So no more Metal Hookers and Metal Hedgehogs sadleon?

civic ocean
#

yea

crystal spruce
#

No more metal hookers and metal hedgehogs

brazen herald
#

holy shit amid evil RTX is insane

crystal eagle
#

I'd love to try it but I ain't spending over a stack or 2 on shinier graphics

lone hatch
#

Well the thing is it's a whole expansion lol

crystal spruce
#

yo i heard that amid evil has ray tracing that true?

jolly mortar
#

There's a raytracing version you opt into

crystal spruce
#

hmm, is it the full game still? or is it like a few test levels

jolly mortar
#

Im 1 generation short of rtx so I've not looked into it deeply sorry. I'm sure someone or leon will answer soon enough.

crystal spruce
#

alrighty thanks for what info you could provide i appreciate it

jolly mortar
#

Just googled. Rtx can be used in the full game

crystal spruce
#

alright man, it wont that serious but i appreciate it

jolly mortar
crystal spruce
#

thanks again man

jolly mortar
#

No problem, thanks for the gift.

crystal spruce
#

you deserved it, should always reward people if they go above whats asked.

ivory wyvern
#

nice RTX tho

civic ocean
#

wtf happened to the creeper page

#

maybe it didn't exist in the first place and I'm just remembering incorrectly.

civic ocean
#

buncha enemy pages just didn't exist I guess. Creepers are new relative to the state of the wiki probably

old kelp
#

I want dlc

vocal ingot
#

DLC Soonโ„ข๏ธ

spice moat
#

The Labyrinth in Black

topaz gorge
strong parcel
#

anyone else having crashes before and after rtx beta?

#

clean install didnt help. going to restart my computer now

strong parcel
#

nvm shit workin now

ivory wyvern
#

DLC for the DLC Soonโ„ข๏ธ

tardy cove
lilac copper
#

soon cant come soon enough

feral ridge
#

Some Point Between Now and Neverโ„ข๏ธ

brazen herald
#

we havenโ€™t seen the DLCโ€™s new melee yet have we

night ginkgo
#

Not yet

signal quartz
#

New melee?

brazen herald
#

i hope it's a large stick

signal quartz
#

New weapon!?

brazen herald
#

2 new weapons

signal quartz
#

๐Ÿ˜ฎ

brazen herald
#

i'm half-expecting the new melee to just be the same scythe that we've seen replacing the ribbons

civic ocean
#

Oh so there will be new melee

#

I had the idea that another thing that could possibly happen is getting the axe at the beginning

jolly mortar
#

New melee? Is the axe getting axed?

topaz gorge
#

no its getting sunset

visual sail
#

I thought the champion got the axe for completing the black labyrinth in order to be chosen to fight in the original campaign realm

#

this is a prequel right? so makes sense he wouldnt have it yet

#

maybe he'll get it at the end idk

brazen herald
#

it's a prequel yeah

#

so it'd have a unique melee

night ginkgo
#

yup this is before you get the axe

brazen herald
#

i hope it's a large stick

night ginkgo
#

you would

topaz gorge
#

i hope its a spork

lethal elk
night ginkgo
#

perhaps...

#

you might be on to something

civic ocean
#

A gauntlet would have been my best guess anyway but we'll see

#

Maybe dirty socks used as gloves, and as puppets when powered

topaz gorge
#

hmm

#

kick??

brazen herald
#

yes

#

every game should let you kick

civic ocean
#

with champion feet

civic ocean
#

Will sadleon be an achievement icon in the DLC?

civic ocean
south gyro
#

whats the status of rtx? i went to look for the beta branch but wasnt there has it been merged into main game yet?

civic ocean
#

you can find the access password on the steam forums

south gyro
#

cool

#

hmm invalid

#

nm got it

south gyro
#

hmm rtx option greyed out, is it only available on certain levels?

civic ocean
#

yes wait no

south gyro
#

gotcha, cool

night ginkgo
south gyro
#

ah, thanks

night ginkgo
#

you have to hit that big green play button

eternal jewel
#

Doom fan game

proper oxide
night ginkgo
#

yes

#

remind that every fps was called a doom clone after doom came out

brazen herald
#

amid evil is literally a Pong clone

vocal ingot
#

amid evil is a tennis for two clone

devout olive
#

amid evil is a multi-cellular organism clone

crystal spruce
#

Amid evil ripped off cyber punk 2077

topaz gorge
#

yeah but cyber punk 2077 ripped off super galaxy ex squadron

#

so it's fair