[Official] Duskruin February 2024 Mecha-Wheelbarrow Listing

[vagrant orchid]

does the create your own MK allow for Shielded Brawler?

[junior shale]

I believe that is under shield skills?

Wyrom
Yeah, no guild-only things.  I'll update the certificate in game when we launch it.
Nothing under the old ARMOR or SHIELD.
It's just the old(er) CMAN list.```

[vagrant orchid]

thank you, removes that item from my list!

[quartz kraken]

What did 515 go for at auction, somone remind me.

[junior shale]

1.5m, to me and melivn, a third was offered but no taker

obvious caveat of that one is we know if it ever changes for wizards it'll change for us as well

[vagrant orchid]

really was hoping for shielded brawler for a monk. Next year!

[quartz kraken]

Okay, instead of an auction, we'll do 506 and 515 SK tattoos at that price, but it will be the last time at this wheelbarrow jazz.

Splitter can have subscript for a 100k surcharge. No enhancives still. Can remove enhancives if you need to, they will not be moved to something else.

MK pricing I'm still working on, if we don't have something finalized, I'd rather pull it for March so that I can offer a better pricing of it come August.

[gaunt python]

is 506 sm for that price also?

[misty jewel]

@long dew you seem to have melted Wyrom's heart... congrats

[long dew]

im speechless

[quartz kraken]

SM is a bit different. If you don't have it attuned, you pick from one list, if you have it attuned, you can get anything found on scrolls under level 20.

That list is posted somewhere, maybe the original post, I don't know.

[gaunt python]

@wyrom so if attuned then sm 506 is available for 1.5?

[quartz kraken]

It's 1mil for SM, but yes.

[gaunt python]

okay thank you

[long dew]

so it would be 2.5 mil total for both sk and sm?

[white vault]

What other surprises?!

[north kelp]

Well, this is fun… now where can i start washing dishes to pay for this stuff? 😬

[crimson elm]

Clean the hamsters cage

[hollow badger]

any clarity on 515..... there was talk of old 515/506 being grandfathered in, the new ones being "subject to change", is there still a distinction or it's all the same now?

[gilded island]

That's not really a question for me to answer, you would need Dev to chime in why they feel balance is important. I'm of the thought that there is no balance, and it doesn't really matter.

You spend $10000 for every SK spell... okay, you can reach the 35m cap a little faster than someone else. Then what?

There aren't currently any rewards for having 1000AS at 1s RT beyond showing off. You can maybe reach the caps faster than someone else but that's about the only real benefit that I can see.

[winter compass]

1m like last time I hope for SK 506! But I am glad to see it!

[gilded island]

Unattuned SM List:

101, 102, 103, 104, 105, 106, 107, 108, 109, 110, 111, 112, 113, 114, 117
201, 202, 203, 204, 205, 206, 207, 209, 210, 211
301, 302, 303, 304, 305, 306, 308, 309, 315
401, 402, 403, 404, 405, 406, 407, 408, 409, 410, 411, 412, 413, 414
501, 502, 503, 504, 507, 508, 509, 510, 511, 512
601, 602, 603, 604, 609, 611
701, 702, 703, 704, 705, 706, 708, 709
801, 802, 803, 804, 805, 806, 807, 808, 809, 810, 811, 812, 813, 814, 815, 816, 817, 818, 819, 820
901, 902, 903, 904, 905, 906, 907, 908, 909, 910, 911, 916
1101, 1102, 1103, 1104, 1105, 1106, 1107, 1108, 1110, 1111, 1112, 1113, 1114
1201, 1202, 1203, 1204, 1205, 1206, 1207, 1208, 1209, 1210, 1211, 1214, 1215
1601, 1602, 1604, 1607, 1608
1700, 1701, 1704, 1705, 1706, 1707, 1708, 1709, 1710, 1716

[hollow badger]

showing off Well that about sums up Gemstone

[gilded island]

I thought you could get 1720 as SM.

[winter compass]

It’s on scrolls, yeah?

[paper dune]

Possible to add a subscript to an existing splitter by paying the surcharge? Such as Animalistic script?

[wispy nymph]

It is on scrolls, yes.

[carmine nest]

can we pay in gum

[gaunt python]

@paper dune splitter is a main combat script, would not work with animalistic script. Flare affinity and rot/notrot flare are subscripts.

[paper dune]

Oh durr. Thanks for the clarification. I knew that already, late night.

[north kelp]

So - who wants to buy me a SK 506 for the Xaz Katar? 😬 It's been all beefed up for ya

[gilded island]

🦗

[north kelp]

Ok, fine, fine. I’ll take Heroism

[long dew]

Yeah I really wish they had this change of heart sooner, unfortunately it’s too late for me. Count me out on the 506 as well.

[misty jewel]

so sad.. all that pleading.. and begging.. finally got your wish.. and still no buy.. what is the world of GS coming to.

[long dew]

already bought sk/sm on the secondary market, they said it wasnt gonna be offered, i accepted that, and moved on and bought it.

Major Elemental
506 Celerity
You rub your ring of urnon.
1d100: 33 + Modifiers: 321 == 354

You suddenly start moving light-footedly.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.

[frigid dirge]

I think you need more modifiers. 😂 Seriously though, grats!

[cedar hornet]

Is there a way to move an SK from one item to another or from an item to a tattoo?

[winter compass]

I’m hoping for 1m 506 🙂. Because then I will definitely get it.

[quartz kraken]

That was sort of what the enhancive combiner service was intended for. Stuff like that where you consolidate everything you currently have to a single point. And the aim was to make it easier to deal with wear/remove as well as enhancive pausing via potions. Maybe I can offer a smaller version of the service to move something around if it's something that is wanted. But enhancive work is very BLAH! Heh.

[cedar hornet]

Would be great to be able to move a single SK.

[quartz kraken]

506/515 for 1.5mil bloodscrip will be the last time I offer it like this. I am just making it clear that it is the last time. I know a few people wrote in and said it was not clear, that's why I am doing it. I am matching the last auction pricing of 515.

[cedar hornet]

Guessing this also eliminates the need for an auction during shenanigans

[winter compass]

Will there be properties again at the auction?

[quartz kraken]

There is no auction.

[spice lintel]

i email about service i didn't get last dr, could i get a reply when you get a chance

[north kelp]

at 1m I'd be in as well... i'm having a really hard time convincing myself on 1.5m

[crimson elm]

email?! what is this 2008? Add him on insta Yakushi, come on man

[spice lintel]

he got a restraining order on me

[winter compass]

Yeah, another $1200 for the extra 500k

[quartz kraken]

If it doesn't sell, it doesn't sell. I understand the price increase, I'm just price matching the last auction price of 515, as both 515 and 506 went for more in the past.

[north kelp]

well, that's settled at least 😅 👍

[hollow badger]

any comment on this?

[junior shale]

I mean what clarity? that was a ruling on all SKs going forward after they brought them back, https://gswiki.play.net/Spell_knowledge_item

it's right there under Spell knowledge item policy

it's not 506/515 specific, just those two are possible things that could certainly change if/when wizards get reviewed

[quartz kraken]

Correct, it will go by a creation date should the time come where a change happens.

[spice lintel]

are there any additional things added to the wheelbarrow tonight since mk might be off the table as well?

maybe add one of them super wandolier that lets you change the spell?

[devout bison]

What time does Whaleborrow launch?

[hollow badger]

well, I was not aware of this, thanks for the reference

[gilded island]

Bring back Wyrom deepening. I'll pay what Brute paid for 250lbs.

[opaque scaffold]

wyrom is carrying enough already

[hot wing]

was gonna drop an archer "phrasing" gif in here but realized it wouldn't work

[exotic dagger]

Need to include some nice "community-themed" items to wheelbarrow so the whales can give back to the masses, orb that gives everyone in Elanthia +5 AS for 15 minutes once per day when rubbed.... 2M BS

[gilded island]

I'm dying, and it's my last wish.

[north kelp]

i think the dying last wish was used on 506/515...

[exotic dagger]

I am saving my last wish for banshee flare upgrade cert, I am currently on my 9th last wish for them....

[white canyon]

yeah I'm amazed that banshee flares haven't made it to DR after all these years. It seems like one of the most requested things, and seems like a no brainer as a money maker. Incremental upgrade certs like bubble flares after the initial add.

[quartz kraken]

It's the thought that counts.

[hollow badger]

you know, I'm kinda amazed with how much gear can be bought nowadays that they haven't done more with container capacity, it's literally a simple quality of life upgrade, it's not like having an extra deep container will make you beat gemstone suddenly, so why not just add more deepening options

[exotic dagger]

I'm just surprised why you guys WANT to pay so much for it.... like 1-2 more boxes per hunt (I sound like Leafiara)

[gilded island]

I literally just want to stop using a backpack, because it defaults to being worn UNDER a jacket. It's weird, it's always bothered me. I'm willing to pay $500 to not have to wear a backpack.

[hollow badger]

I had a 1k sack before and the only reason is that it's convenient not having to deal with "ohh that container is full, and that one also, guess you're stuck holding this box now"

[white canyon]

Wyrom what's up with Banshee flares? Nobody ever even responds to the requests? Can you just tell us that Dev doesn't want them released again for now? Or does it just not make the cut every time for years?

[quartz kraken]

I know this is just throwing something out there, but there were a lot of times I was tasked to do some sort of "community" buy-in where you unlock a perk for a day/week/month. I don't think they'd work out well in GS, since the price point I was tasked to put them at were kind of steep.

[exotic dagger]

Sometimes limits are nice, do I really need "60 pounds of knickacks in my front harness?"

[gilded island]

Yes. You do need 60 pounds of knicknacks in your front harness.

[white canyon]

Community buy ins for steep prices could work if there was some mechanism where the whole community could donate, maybe over time instead of all at once? and obviously, if the reward was worth the price

[quartz kraken]

I think it's mostly unlimited banshee flare offering isn't something that will get approved. Which variety are you thinking?

[gilded island]

In the leather harness you see ... 60 pounds of knicknacks.

[white canyon]

I've been saying a +10 10 second banshee flare add in hess, with boost certs for bonus and also duration could be great

[quartz kraken]

Might just be one of those things that is hard to tackle. I'll check on it.

I don't get too involved with HESS. I like the HEHESS.

That's the new wheelbarrow name.

But you have to say it like Michael Jackson.

[white canyon]

like, my understanding is max banshee flares is +50ds and +50 TD for 60 seconds...but there are variations that exist. Sometimes it starts at 10/10/10? I think it'd be a great seller, both the add and the upgrades. I know MANY people have requested it over and over for years.

[exotic dagger]

Atleast you will always be prepared

[white vault]

What time will the glorious wheelbarrow come out?

[white canyon]

just curious if that's a dev decision, like they don't want that many banshee flares out in the wild, or if it's a pain in the butt to do, or if it's just getting missed every time.

[exotic dagger]

Last 50/60 banshee flare upgrade auctioned was like 2021 for ~220K BS or silver (based on my memory because I tried to bid), but you had to have the flare on the spot already

[white canyon]

EG used to have banshee flare tokens that were +10 for 10 seconds. And Wyrom did a max your banshee flares to +50/+50 60 seconds in August 2021

anyway, sorry I'm derailing your hehehehe discussion...max banshee flares in the hehemobile for 400k

[quartz kraken]

Approvals are a group of people ranging from script owner, dev, me, the APMs, gurus, etc. For things like HESS, it's mostly the script owner, dev, and the event leads. It's rarely just one person or one team involved with approvals outside team stuff.

I enjoy a good derailing of topics.

[white canyon]

right thats kinda what I meant, I know it wouldn't just be one person...basically, a lot of folks have been asking for banshee flares for a while with no answer at all, so I figured since you're a see through zombie you might give us some insight, and you have, so I appreciate it!

[quartz kraken]

Wheelbarrow will be out after CLAIM final wave. I'd honestly expect probably after 10pm ET. But it will be out until the end (of time (which is MAR 10 (I did this on purpose))).

[white vault]

lol nice

[weary lintel]

Add a belt with 100 ranks survival bonus for whales wanting that last 5% reduction in round time penalty.

[exotic dagger]

What "community price point" do you think would be needed to have like random 2x experience June or something like that? Silver or BS, I assume BS it would be quite lower....

[white vault]

I’d put silver into something like that. Probably wouldn’t do bs.

[exotic dagger]

You do something like "if you redeem this event box for 5mil you get EXP orb and trinket, etc..." but if 1,000 ppl redeem we get 2x month. That way if we are short near the end then whales can start bribing ppl!

[hollow badger]

I think you all just found the perfect silver sink.

[wispy nymph]

Rising tides and all that.

[quartz kraken]

What was the cost of the 250 legendary deepening? I forget.

[white canyon]

or just put a box in TSC and when it hits 1b silvers everyone gets 2x xp for the month

[hollow badger]

like uhh 50k bs right guys

[white vault]

Wasn’t it like 250m silvers? I need to go look it up.

[exotic dagger]

I do like this idea, eventually it will hit

[hollow badger]

it was 200m yeah

[polar cloak]

Epic lightening would also be a hit in the barrow I'd think.

[white canyon]

yeah thats another one, you could charge 100k per 1lb below minimum and people would pay

[exotic dagger]

1lb adamantine plate here we come....

[hollow badger]

can we go into the negative weights?

[white canyon]

no Adamantine still has to be 67 lbs sorry

[polar cloak]

There's some 38lb sets out there. Made when notes took them there before that was kaboshed.

[exotic dagger]

Its always good to let 1-2 items fall through the cracks to become legendary items of jealousy in this game haha

[polar cloak]

https://discord.com/channels/226045346399256576/1211786300504408154

[exotic dagger]

We need a top 10 most illegal functional items in GS list. 🚨

[tight timber]

This, sweep without the penalty with a morning star 👍

[crimson elm]

i like the idea of being able to moosh ALL my enchancives into one or two huge ones for that price - but the cap of 6 items only hurts because i own a lot of smaller number enhancives - maybe it could be capped at just 6 enhancive entries but it could combine as many items as you use into those 6 slots?

[hollow badger]

The combiner was weird the way it was designed. It wasn't really that suitable for combining existing enhancives, since most of them have multiple stats on them. Why would you destroy good enhancives just to move 1 stat over? Makes no sense. If you could take 6 existing enhancives and the result would be a complete fusion of them - then yeah 1m bs would be worth it.

[crimson elm]

like i want to moosh enhancives, i hate managing 18 rechargeable things

[vagrant orchid]

I think moving 6 things to 1 item would be well worth it. Then you have just 1 item you need to cover with recharge potions. You can also slowly increase all of them to the enhancive cap over time. Seems like a win.

[crimson elm]

i bought one in August, it was great i really liked it

but i still have tons of little fiddley enhancives on top of it heh

[reef eagle]

If we had epic lightening down to half of the standard min, I’d buy that and an adamantine transmute stat.

[quartz kraken]

Still looking at after 10pm ET for the wheelbarrow.

[wispy nymph]

The what? Oh you mean the HEHESS

[quartz kraken]

Haha

[misty jewel]

stalker

[calm prawn]

[quartz kraken]

Getting closer. I'm going to make the list of MKs here. This list is subject to change or be wrong. If I'm wrong, you won't be penalized.

Bearhug 
Bull Rush
Burst of Swiftness
Combat Focus
Combat Movement
Coup de Grace
Crowd Press
Cunning Defense
Dirtkick 
Dislodge
Divert
Dust Shroud
Garrote
Grapple Specialization
Groin Kick
Hamstring
Haymaker
Headbutt
Internal Power
Kick Specialization
Mug
Punch Specialization
Retreat
Shield Bash
Side by Side
Spell Cleave
Spell Thieve
Staggering Blow 
Sucker Punch 
Sunder Shield 
Surge of Strength
Trip
True Strike 
Vault Kick

The price is going to be 1st rank at 250k and +1 rank to a max of 5 ranks at 150k each rank.

If the list sucks or I missed the mark, it should reflect in the numbers and I'll review it for August.

If you have something that is 3 ranks, you can buy the +2 this way.

[gilded island]

@wary nebula

[wary nebula]

😮

[devout bison]

oh snap mug

[quartz kraken]

Just finalizing the wheelbarrow still though.

Some added surprises

[fluid cedar]

ohh can my cleric use his prayerbeads for a garrote?

[gilded island]

Oh, so, you do love me.

[quartz kraken]

Yup.

Figure out who the yup is to.

[fluid cedar]

thats mean

[calm prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/turkey-funny-it-was-me-explosion-gif-12897205

[tender valley]

Mug won't work with ranged, right rogues?

[marsh pond]

A few of those are already available to all professions. Not a problem, per se - but also not likely to get much traction 😆

[white vault]

Awesome

[hollow badger]

what happened to cheapshots?

[hollow badger]

yeah I was wondering about that lol

[quartz kraken]

I'm excluding the guild ones for now. I can open it up to some guild stuff maybe.

[tender valley]

No stunman?

[devout bison]

stunman is guild

[hollow badger]

Combat Movement, Cunning Defense, Dirtkick, Disarm Weapon, Feint, Groin Kick, Precision, Retreat, Side by Side, Stance Perfection, Trip, Unarmed Specialist are all available to all professions

[tender valley]

stunman is available to rogues, monks, and warriors, so not just guild right?

[gilded island]

It's free through the guild. But those classes can train it using cman points.

[clear walrus]

if you picked uprank 5 of feint in MK that would just free up those cman points to use for whatever else in stead, and you could use it on like... everyone. it's like the spell book equivalent of doing MnE/MnS instead of prof lists.

assuming you were planning on picking up and using feint on whatever build/character you use it in (and it's not a warrior that gets it for free)

[opaque scaffold]

I will be the difficult one

could you buy and use a UAC specialization if you already had a different UAC specialization trained

[long dew]

martial stances ok?

[opaque scaffold]

wait

[tender valley]

The list is posted.

[clear walrus]

i had the same though. also mug might need a disclaimer if the proposed changes ever happen that were going to, it sounded like, more require PP for success.

[opaque scaffold]

internal power wow

wait mug

[quartz kraken]

For the specializations they might not work, just as an FYI.

[wary nebula]

Wait, what happens if they don't work?

[quartz kraken]

Then I remove them and refund you, heh. I just didn't test it.

[marsh pond]

I'll test it for you. I can't promise I'll return the test sample though 😇

[opaque scaffold]

I'd like to talk about adding a flag that prevents people from using mug on me

[wary nebula]

Man, I don't know if I can even possibly say no to Coup and Hamstring.

[tender valley]

https://tenor.com/view/modern-family-spray-squirt-annoyed-irritated-gif-4445288

This pricing feels about right to me, for whatever that's worth.

[quartz kraken]

Where did I set this thing down last time?

[devout bison]

out side hess

[quartz kraken]

Works for me!

[marsh pond]

So I know we're not in the game of promises - but...one a scale of 1-10, how likely is this to return next DR? ...when I get more bloodscrip

[tender valley]

Is divert rogue guild only?

[quartz kraken]

I don't know. Most stuff will come back I'm guessing.

It might get refined some.

[wary nebula]

Working or no, Kick Specialization being on here is blowing my mind, heh.
But yeah, pretty sure Coup and Hamstring are my initial targets.

[junior shale]

obviously it's the last run, announced above, for 515/506

in case people missed those

[quartz kraken]

Yes

I adjusted some pricing (downward), I added at least 1 thing, I'm returning at least 1 thing that I didn't say, uhhh, and then the split for MK.

I'm bringing it out now.

[junior shale]

oh do you have the final list, or should we just go look?

[quartz kraken]

I figured I'd just let people be surprised, I'll update the list.

[errant torrent]

I do love coup messaging...

[marsh pond]

Coup seems like one I'd have to go all the way to rank 5 for, but man. Even 1 just for messing around is tempting

[hollow badger]

This is to deepen a belt worn or shoulder worn container to 250lbs.  Some restrictions may apply.```
250k bs

[junior shale]

oo the 12x enchants went down too,

This is to enchant a piece of gear from 10x to 12x. Does not include DB, OB, or any other fanciness.

get potion

A sales clerk steps over to you and says, "A prop enchant potion will cost 500,000 Duskruin Arena bloodscrip to purchase."

[tender valley]

Alastir is going to lose it....

[quartz kraken]

Now he knows which I said yup to.

[junior shale]

which harness is that?

[gilded island]

A sales clerk accepts your 250,000 bloodscrip.
A sales clerk makes a quick trip to a back storage area and returns with a prop legendary note.  Handing the note to you carefully, a sales clerk exclaims, "Enjoy the note, sir!"

Ty ❤️

[wary nebula]

I mean, I might or might not stop at rank 1 this run (will have to ponder it), but even at rank 1, a high enough endroll can still get that sweet +40 Empowered...

[hollow badger]

if our container is already 250 and we use that note on it, it goes to 500 right?

[quartz kraken]

I do think you can have a garrote be a some prayer beads.

[marsh pond]

Ooh, sunder.

[fluid cedar]

yer killing me

[north kelp]

Question on the deepening notes…. If we have something with WR, will the WR apply to the 250lbs or will it be limited to the weight from when the WR was added.

[marsh pond]

Such a good maneuver, and my poor warrior is cheated because of polearmism

[white vault]

Very nice

[marsh pond]

If it's like other deepening, WR always applies to the weight it was activated on. I think there's a way the seamstress can "correct" it, but it'd cost a lot

[vagrant orchid]

so, if you have a punch/kick/jab spec, and ytou get an MK of another one, can you have 2?

[clear walrus]

i think it's the jump harness isn't it?

[junior shale]

yeah it is

[hollow badger]

   ... 28 points of damage!
   Head explodes in flames!  Grab some marshmallows.

 * Alastir drops dead at your feet!

Deep blue motes swirl away from Alastir and fade.
The glowing specks of energy surrounding Alastir suddenly shoot off in all directions, then quickly fade away.
A silver light faintly flickers around Alastir, then fades.
Alastir becomes solid again.
Alastir seems a bit less imposing.
Alastir seems to lose some dexterity.
The tingling sensation and sense of security leaves Alastir.
Alastir appears less confident.
Alastir becomes unbalanced for a second, then recovers.
Alastir glances around, looking a bit less confident.
The dim aura fades from around Alastir.
Whayle's silvergrass ankle-cuff pulses briefly, deflecting some of the burning damage!
   ... 35 points of damage!
   Flame sets Whayle's head alight like a torch.  Burned beyond recognition.

 * Whayle drops dead at your feet!```

[devout bison]

sweet

[exotic dagger]

newbs...

[north kelp]

Wyrom, any chance you could confirm Kaetel’s comment on the legendary note and WR? Hoping maybe based on cost the previous WR could apply to the 250lbs

[clear walrus]

this is what happens when you let people change classes at cap

[quartz kraken]

You have to readjust your WR at RW I believe.

But I can take a look at it.

[hollow badger]

yeah pretty sure I had to do that for something, RW has a mechanic to increase WR to the new capacity, it offers it as a one time fee to bring it up to current WR level IIRC

[junior shale]

yep, I won an epic deepening at a raffle think premium fest? and had to increase it back up at RW

[reef eagle]

Thanks for the bonus adds zombie boss.

[crimson elm]

Can one of the surprises include a self mana supercharger for the temporal script? Please say yes regardless of the actual answer.

[white vault]

WR was always for the current weight. Not an improved one. The BS cost is pretty in line with historical pricing to get to 250lb

[north kelp]

hmmm. K, thanks for the info folks.

ok... another question i'm pretty sure I know the answer too, but going to ask just in case...
Katars can't be thrown, correct?

[junior shale]

i dunno, try?

[clear walrus]

anything can be thrown. i'll throw you right now.

[north kelp]

huh... for some reason I thought katars couldn't be thrown... interesting

[tender valley]

So what is the ideal item for an MK cman? Ranger resistance trinket?

[spice lintel]

coup

[marsh pond]

They have kunai as an alternate noun. That practically screams thrown. (also makes no sense for a katar noun, but that's beside the point)

[tender valley]

You can hurl katars.... brawling + edged + thrown + weapon bonding...

[north kelp]

I saw that as an alternate a little while back and thought the same thing...

[long dew]

ty for adding back in the greater transmute, much appreciated

[marsh pond]

Are the MKs attuned? And can they be applied to something that is already enhancive?

[tender valley]

also, could this please be pinned?

[wary nebula]

The more I think about this, Mug is definitely on the "great even at only 1 rank" list...

I'm busy categorizing each MK on my personal valuation list into great, great but only at max rank or near it, trash, and not trash but also not worth the asking cost. At least, those are the only identified categories so far. 😂

[gilded island]

I admit the mug is tempting. But I already hunt enough to reach loot cap, so I think the benefit might be lost on me.

You redeem a prop legendary note.

J>duskruin view char

~~~ HESS Certificate Information for character ALASTIR ~~~

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1. Stuff & Things

There are 3 results for character ALASTIR.

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[quartz kraken]

Yeah, they are different, if this continues, I'll probably see what we can do to add them to HESS certs.

[stoic saffron]

Hey maybe you could make the rogue service teaching these skills instead of selling them for BS

I'm salty this week!

[tender valley]

I hope you might consider sharing, or giving us the rationale for your top 3 choices.

Also, should tackle be on the MK list Wyrom?

It seems the same as divert? It’s a guild skill that can also be trained as a cman?

[viral moon]

is it even possible to do Dust Shroud without dirt kick? does this MK just allow you to bypass requirements?

[tardy merlin]

Yes.

[reef eagle]

Looking for clarification on the wheelbarrow enchant. Prop says 10x->12x, pinned post says +5 enchant up to 12x. If you have a 10x weapon, do you need 1 or 2 props to get to 12x?

[long dew]

correct

[noble mantle]

That answer is clear as mud!

[tardy merlin]

I want to say it's supposed to be +5 each prop UP to 12x, but that's not what it saaaaaays, so I guess I wouldn't mind a weigh in

[winter compass]

It was like this last August too, right? 10-12 jump

[gaunt python]

@wyrom would be interested in buying the bando if there's future plans to allow wps smithy to work on it. Just need to hear it's in consideration and I'll be an instant buyer.

[hollow badger]

Bandos would be way cooler if you could take the weapon out at any time to do work on it.

[gaunt python]

yeah

[white vault]

I think he adjusted the pricing. To go from 10 to 12x for 500k. Which is super reasonable. Comparably to previous pricing.

[junior shale]

that's kinda what I thought when I read it, it closely matches the price of the 15x enchant certs that happened, those were 275k, but of course allowed up to 15x

[wary nebula]

Have at it. 😄

[marsh pond]

Wait a dang minute, how did I not know coups buff was group wide

[wise lake]

If greater somnis counts as incapacitating there could be a lot of synergy there with coup

[tender valley]

These are great insights. Thank you.

Coup works ranged too?

[wary nebula]

Yes, and bolting.

Edit: Actually, hmm, the ranged messaging on the wiki seems to imply an arrow in hand... let me go check this on the test server.

Edit 2: Yeah, it works even with no arrow in hand. And the AS boost is universal: melee, ranged, bolting, hurling, and UAF.

>cman coup
You lunge towards Leafiara, intending to finish her off!
[SMR result: 103 (Open d100: 14, Bonus: 54)]
You stiffen your fingers and drive them into Leafiara's eyes, pushing them back into the brain!  Nothing much left to do but die.```

[devout bison]

Even with curse armor being last run will the upgrades still be available?

[opaque scaffold]

yes coup is one of the specific maneuvers where the extra ranks really matter

because of the window expansion

[north kelp]

Just reading Leafi's assessment... it looks spot on. But most importantly, it confirms... Rogue = master class

[daring fractal]

Did you have to have brawling training to be able to do this with a bow in hand?

[wary nebula]

Good question! Let's find out..

[lusty glade]

Also mildly curious if you get 1 arrow from your bundle.

Coup de grace also has the benefit of winning hands down on style points.

[wary nebula]

No Brawling training needed. Or Ranged, for that matter.

Edit: Coup can also just bash someone to death with the bow if you have it in your right hand for some reason. 🤣

[SMR result: 179 (Open d100: 45, Bonus: 111)]
You slam your short bow into the back of her head with all your might!
Brain matter now decorates the area!```

[narrow burrow]

Coup works with any weapon, or bare handed. And it is the coolest. I used to love it, but unfortunately with the last round of updates to maneuvers it doesn't stack with warcry shout. Instead it often reduces the bonus from shout, so I reluctantly dropped it.

There are also special messages for all the combos.

[wary nebula]

The messaging is very colorful. And very "wait, this is a family game?" 😄

[spice lintel]

it was my dream cm when i was a spiking ranger

[devout bison]

What is it now

[narrow burrow]

It's very Mortal Combat.

[spice lintel]

a very expensive toy

[devout bison]

Property mailbox huh?

[tender valley]

What happens if a target is not eligible for coup? And how do you know if they are?

[wary nebula]

Nothing happens if they're not eligible, which is phenomenal. It gives you messaging that they're not ready, but there's no stamina use nor even RT for trying. (You do get RT edit: and stamina use for trying if they are eligible, but you don't roll high enough to hit. No stamina use in that case, though.)

So basically you just always try if you think they might be within the health range, which is (10% * Coup ranks) of their max if they're incapacitated in some way and (5% * Coup ranks) of their max if not.

On another note, I just realized I actually don't need to think about Bearhug because it applies Enhance Strength and I already have that via MK Surge of Strength. Speaking of Surge, my thoughts on it are similar to Burst: only rank 5 makes any sense at all because of cooldown length, and it doesn't make 850k sense. I got it for 450k, though, so hey!

[clear walrus]

Should check if it’s averaging in your weapon skill. I.e. test with a trained for weapon in hand vs not to check endroll. That might be a thing for ranged (where it would still be usable but maybe lower endrolls. Just a thing to be aware of)

[opaque scaffold]

Wait, why does coup not cost stamina if you fail the roll

[wary nebula]

I'll double check on that since maybe I'm misremembering, but testing the weapon skill thing right now.

[SMR result: 218 (Open d100: 71, Bonus: 112)]
(so +35)```
```Bow in left hand, empty right hand, no Ranged but 202 Brawling, against 28 health uninjured-but-bound character:
[SMR result: 216 (Open d100: 68, Bonus: 114)]
(so +34... basically probably randomization elements or rounding or something)```
```Bow in left hand, empty right hand, 202 Ranged and 202 Brawling, against 49 health uninjured-but-bound character:
[SMR result: 228 (Open d100: 70, Bonus: 100)]
(so +58)```
I found that third result so surprising that I repeated the test with 15 health...
```Bow in left hand, empty right hand, 202 Ranged and 202 Brawling, against 15 health uninjured-but-bound character:
[SMR result: 199 (Open d100: 25, Bonus: 115)]
(so +59)```
So it actually does look at your *Ranged* skill if you have a bow in hand, despite the messaging saying you're using your fist since your right hand is empty.

And lastly...
```Bow in left hand, empty right hand, 202 Ranged and no Brawling, against 10 health uninjured-but-bound character:
[SMR result: 236 (Open d100: 62, Bonus: 115)]
(so +59)```

[clear walrus]

That would seem like a bug but considering I only ever use it with like rank 5 and things near dead it….doesnt really come up often lol

[wary nebula]

Was wrong about the stamina thing, it does consume on a miss!

[clear walrus]

Did you mean one of those to be 202 ranged 0 brawling?

[wary nebula]

Oh, yeah, should take a look at that. Sec. I was dumbfounded by Ranged mattering at all. 🤣

[clear walrus]

I mean with an empty hand and 202 brawling it might not be 🙂

[wary nebula]

Okay, tested and edited in. Yeah, no difference between 202 Ranged+202 Brawling or 202 Ranged+0 Brawling (with a bow in hand).

[marsh pond]

Seems like getting that 300 endroll for max bonus is actually pretty tough

[clear walrus]

it kinda is, but getting a 20-30 bonus is pretty typical which is still not bad

[wary nebula]

Yeah, for max you'd need to stack a lot of wounds plus disable, or just open roll in the first place. But it does happen. And thankfully there's a fresh new luck service to make it happen more often!

[clear walrus]

but good to know it's checking left hand for ranged, i always assumed it was just doing right hand. so....
but if doing ranged dislodge into coup is like +100 style points

[spice lintel]

do you get to apply mk to existing item? also are they attuned?

[tender valley]

So 611 + coup.

[spice lintel]

u need to do enough damage for it to work

[tender valley]

I feel like we’ve been asking this, but haven’t seen an answer. And what items are eligible.

[spice lintel]

send out the wyrom signal

[tight timber]

somnis sleep count as incap for coup?

[narrow burrow]

I believe it would, but you'd still have to have done enough damage for coup to work.

[clear walrus]

oddly it seems like it doesn't but i'd say this should be considered a bug lol.

A dude is awakened by your attack!
You move towards the dude to finish your kill, but he is aware of your intentions and thwarts your attempt.```

after it woke up hitting it with a stun (that didn't do any more damage, so wouldn't push it to the sub 25% range that doesn't need the disable) worked. so.... in a quick test of damaging them and hitting them with 501, it seems like it wakes them up as you start the coup which then makes it fail the status check.

[calm prawn]

can we get an update on our stretch goal for event boxes?

[digital chasm]

is urglaes an option for greater transmute?

[wary nebula]

I have 56 event boxes so far. Doing my part!

[vagrant orchid]

seems just a tad excessive 😂 I applaud the effort!

[wary nebula]

#1207762863079563315 message

Almost 30 hour update!

CLAIM GIFT: 1,117
CLAIM EVENT: 617 | 4,319,000,000

Seven days to go, just under halfway there.```

[exotic dagger]

I have tracked down only 13 so far but no one is selling them..... people asking for 9m per lol (I got another 20 in me if I could find ANY reasonable sellers)

[gilded island]

It doesn't have any special properties and just makes the difficulty -999. I think you can do it with the 15k transmute option.

At least, it's been done before for 15k.

[north kelp]

Are there any stats that help show the effectivenses of Mug from hiding vs. the open?

[long dew]

urglaes naturally has DB, so thats gotta be a mistake.

[digital chasm]

urglaes has a natural offensive side

urglaes profession pavis were all +12 AS and 5x DS, once they opened them up for further enchanting, you could have it become +12 AS/10x DS shield, and also still TD on it

there is even the one urglaes runestaff that is either +12 or +18 CS atop its normal enchant

[fluid cedar]

do items redeemed from the wheelbarrow not show up as in the queue under view character?

[calm prawn]

I don't believe they show up under duskruin, they are their own thing iirc

#duskruin message

[north kelp]

Who could i open a DM with about a potential greater transmute and if it's viable before I do it?

[gilded island]

DM me bb

[winter compass]

What's the timeline like on wheelbarrow redemptions? Just curious. Sent one in.

[devout bison]

depends on when boss mans around, its usually around now

[quartz kraken]

I'll be tackling more of them tomorrow. I was out on Sunday for most the day, and I grabbed all the Saturday/early Sunday redemptions earlier today. I've got about 10 or so remaining.

[fluid cedar]

is there anything that mind wrack flares do not work on?

[winter compass]

They don’t work well on higher levels in Endless. Things shake off the stun and damage instantly. But they work on most normal things, even some bosses like the Reim Emperor

[fluid cedar]

thank you,

[winter compass]

I don’t think they work on automatons. Too mindless

[weary lintel]

Should add a mind flayer alteration to such gear as a freebie for the cost

[crimson elm]

is current whalebarrow on the wiki?

like with this current rounds offerings and pricing?

[stable cipher]

I wasn't able to find anything so I just foreached it there to get all the info ;foreach all in wheelbarrow;get item;read item;anal item

[calm prawn]

my limited script reading abilities tells me this script is for picking something up and kiestering it.

[stable cipher]

Get just shows you the price

[calm prawn]

it was funny in my head.

[devout bison]

;foreach all in wheelbarrow; buy item;stow item

[gilded island]

https://gswiki.play.net/User_talk:GS4ALASTIR/Whalebarrow_2024_02

[tender valley]

What’s the 800k harness again? Bando?

[gilded island]

https://gswiki.play.net/Gnomish_Recon_Corps_Harness

Previously sold at: https://gswiki.play.net/Grand_Auction_of_5123/Full_List#Automated_Auction

[stable cipher]

how's the backlog looking on wheelbarrow cert redemptions? patiently waiting on mine from sunday

[fluid cedar]

im available for a while

[winter compass]

Just waiting on a wheelbarrow tattoo redemption and debating if it will create a new tat or will it use a current one?

[devout bison]

create a new one
i cant remember how many sks a single tat can hold though

[winter compass]

Do you get to choose what it looks like? Alter idea is ready if so.

[devout bison]

you tell them

[winter compass]

Cool. Thanks

[icy kelp]

Can I ask to add a new SK tat that I buy from the wheelbarrow to an existing SK tat? (To consolidate both the new and old SK into a single tat)?

[stable cipher]

I wonder how wheelbarrow redemptions are coming along

[winter compass]

Mine was Mon morning. Waiting for it. Just when he has time, I think. He said that he did a sweep through on Sunday night or something. Probably another round soon.

[devout bison]

yes

[winter compass]

Actually, he just popped in and did mine. Thanks, Wyrom!

[stable cipher]

same here

[winter compass]

is it potion only to recharge these, or is there another method?

[devout bison]

potion

[winter compass]

Good for a year now.

[quartz kraken]

I am all caught up on wheelbarrow redemptions to those who were in today while I was around. I have 6 pending who are not logged in.

If you had something redeemed already, I sent you a message in game that you should see. There were quite a few without details added, so I made some judgement calls, but we can update if needed.

[vagrant orchid]

they sent my hess request back to dev 😂 Someone there is not going to like me

[stable cipher]

thank you!

[wary nebula]

You take a closer look at a prop statue.
This is to add the first rank of a limited list of MK abilities.  Check this link: #1210863889089040434 message```
1) Does "add" mean I have to put this on an existing worn item?
2) Assuming 1 is yes, what are the restrictions on doing that, if any?
3) Do MKs count as scripts, which would make them conflict with bards' Lucky Items?


I guess it might behoove me to name some specifics.

Assuming it goes onto an existing worn item, the options I'm looking at for MK Coup de Grace include worn X/day items, my best *normal* enhancives (skills), the MK Surge of Strength item I already have, various fluff scripted items (I know it would turn them functional if it's even allowed), a hand pylon, a hidden vambrace, or the Ebon Gate Trick or Treat bag (would go functional if it's even allowed).

So wondering if any of those are just out of the question! 😄

[devout bison]

thanks who ever just did my redemption

[fluid cedar]

figures, my internet disconnected around midnight, i woke up and logged in around 1:30 but it must have been too late for today....lol my luck

[calm prawn]

Don't fret, it'll get done RSN.

[marsh pond]

It imparts a bonus of +35 more than usual.
It has been infused with the power of a strange anti-magical substance (3 dispel attempts).
It is an enhancive item:
    It provides a boost of 1 to Coup de Grace.
    It seems to have almost innumerable enhancive charges remaining.```
I opted for my UCS gloves - but to answer your #3, it appears to be exclusively an enhancive. The gloves are briar/rusalkysk/dispel flarying and all the player services - no conflicts

[north kelp]

by chance do you know how much it added to the diff? if it did at all

[gilded island]

SK/MK are just fancy enhancives and for whoever asked earlier, 2 per item

[marsh pond]

Looks to have added 90 difficulty

[north kelp]

good to know, thank you!

[quartz kraken]

Alastir is correct on SK/MK, they're just enhancives like -9 STR. You pick something to add them to. Also, please WHISPER details, it will help speed up the redemption process. If you are getting a tattoo, tell me which tattoo to place it on if possible or a description of a new tattoo. I can't put them on Mystic tattoos or scroll tattoos. They likely won't work on any X/day out there either. For SM items, I'm building those and using RUB as the default. If you need something different, just tell me in that whisper.

At this point, everyone who has redeemed a wheelbarrow is taken care of who is logged in. There are 4 in the queue. These are just being handled by me currently. My current schedule is mid morning eastern until early evening (business/office hours). I take a slight break in the evening and then I'm back at night. I'm trying to be sleeping by 2am ET these days. My availability Friday and Saturday will be real spotty because I'll be getting things together for our finale this run. As long as you redeem your wheelbarrow offering before Duskruin closes, you'll be good. They expire Monday March 11th at 01:00:00 ET 2024. If they aren't redeemed then, that's that.

And if you didn't know, MAR 10 is daylight savings ridiculousness that exists in 2024 still.

[north kelp]

I have a referral out there that will influence my wheelbarrow, Hess purchase, and potential additional purchases if it's possible for that to be examined prior to the 3/9 it would be greatly appreciated. Just want to make sure i have the appropriate time slotted for farming if needed.

[wary nebula]

2 per item? So I could stick MK Coup onto MK Surge and then only need a single 30-day potion for both?

[quartz kraken]

Correct

[lusty glade]

Looking forward to Leafi ripping heads off next invasion. 😂

[crimson elm]

greater xmute doesn't come with a weapon base swap for some reason right >.> if i can make a ohe into a katar ill buy one ^.^

[wary nebula]

You and me both. 😈

[crimson elm]

.<

[devout bison]

Mug and punch mastery look juicy

Is mug 1 sec with Tonis?

[north kelp]

Yep

You leap from hiding to attack!
You swing a sigil-etched xazkruvrixis handaxe at an ashen patrician vampire!
  AS: +717 vs DS: +431 with AvD: +29 + d100 roll: +97 = +412
   ... and hit for 124 points of damage!
   Awful slash nearly decapitates the patrician vampire!
   That's one way to lose your head.
The vampire's shadow stretches, long and hideous and tinged the color of blood.  The darkness rips free and dissipates with a sound like the susurration of countless leathery wings.
An ashen patrician vampire's lightless eyes go wide.  A shriek of rage and horror builds in his throat but never escapes.  He collapses, lifeless as a puppet with its strings cut, as the vestiges of otherworldly beauty retreat to reveal a corpse rapidly succumbing to decay.
The burden of condemnation lifts from an ashen patrician vampire.
Darkness punctuated by a constellation of starry pinpoints wells up around an ashen patrician vampire and splinters away with a sound like shattering crystal.
[SMR result: 161 (Open d100: 17, Bonus: 65)]
Taking advantage of the scuffle, you roughly pat the patrician vampire down for hidden valuables!
He had a silver wand tucked away!
Your hasty search scatters the patrician vampire's riches to the ground!
Roundtime: 2 sec.
Roundtime changed to 1 second.```

[exotic dagger]

Out of all the humanoid targets who would get mugged, vampires are thematically the last of the list of "people" who I could imagine being mugged. Konti = Blade.

[quartz kraken]

Greater xmute won't allow for the death flares to happen on UCS currently. Not sure if this will ever change in the future, but for now, that's the current ruling. Just the way combat works with UCS isn't really aligned well with death flares. I know we let some stuff get out there and I know some mistakes were made, but that's mostly because I try not to revert things we deliberately made without the proper testing.

[junior shale]

is the no sk on scroll tattoos a recent thing? I have an sk + scroll tattoo, so wondering if there was a mechanical thing you run into there I should be warry about

[crimson elm]

if this is in response to me wyrom sir, katars are not ucs!

[hot wing]

Yeah I think if death metal is banned on katars the plot has been lost. Katars factor brawl skill for your AS but they are not a UCS weapon

[clear walrus]

Yeah i dunno if we ever got real clarification on the "no brawling" weapons thing cause that makes no sense. "no ucs compatible weapons" makes sense (cestus, paingrip, razorpaw, knuckle-blade, knuckle-duster, yierka-spur, tiger claw). That makes sense.

"No fist-cythes or katars" makes as much sense as "no short or longswords" basically.

[wispy nymph]

I also don't get the "no katar" restriction. But I also think death flares should never be offered again so maybe I'm not the best advocate 🙃

[marsh pond]

In hindsight, I probably should’ve waited for some of these clarifying answers before redeeming - for some reason I was of the mind that it had to be on an item, I hadn’t even considered tattoos. Is there a possibility of revising my original redemption? Follow-up: planning on redeeming a MK +1 rank. If the answer to the first question is yes - could I indicate in the whisper details for that redemption for the final desired state?

[quartz kraken]

MK isn't a tattoo. SK is.

MK needs to go on an item. SK is a tattoo, I'll give you a new one if you need it, or I can add it to one you already have.

[vagrant orchid]

was there going to be an sk or sm for 506? I missed a lot of that conversation

[pale fern]

There is, for 1.5 million bloodscrip

[marsh pond]

Aha, got it. Thanks for THAT clarification too! 😆

Still probably should’ve put it on a non-armament item, but it’s fine

[devout bison]

ill sell you a Deathstus 😛

[crimson elm]

i'd tell you to turn it into a katar and i'm in - but you'd be a monster

also i don't believe they will currently let you anyway - though there might be an exception to get that thing off the streets 😛

but i think the logic IS sound here:

katars are not UCS combat - they are just AS weapons that require two types of weapon training - in exchange you have access to both weapon skill selections - but again all those weapon skills are AS abilities as well, not UCS

it seems quite reasonable to state they are no different than any other weapon that is allowed to be turned in xaz right now

the extra wrinkle here is that in order to do what i want, i need to be able to convert a OHE weapon to a Katar as well - so i realize i'm fighting a bit of an uphill battle here - but hey its also like 2m bs sooooo

[spice lintel]

why can't u just greater transmute your temporal katar to death?

or just death flare a katar

[crimson elm]

cuz then it wont be temporal i believe, temporal script takes cat b and d

but if someone (@yakushi) wants to loan me 1.5m to submit it and see what wyrom says when he gets it, i'm down 😛

[crimson elm]

could do yea - just had a nice ohe to convert over that has tons of stuff on it already was all

[tender valley]

Ranger resistance trinket

[hot wing]

I mean there’s no argument: if the prohibition is on UCS gear and UCS compatible held brawling weaponry, katars aren’t UCS or UCS compatible, full stop, and should be permitted

If it’s a prohibition on weaponry that involves brawling skill in any way in determining AS, then it’s unbelievably silly and should be redefined in scope to UCS gear and UCS-compatible held brawling weapons

[quartz kraken]

Court of law just ruled you're all going to jail.

Sorry, not my decision.

(I'll look into katars)

[devout bison]

https://tenor.com/view/jail-right-to-jail-right-away-parks-and-recreation-parks-and-rec-gif-16177531

[cold bluff]

I have a xaz katar made from an ore. Or rather, I uhh don’t have a xaz katar if it’s not allowed

[noble mantle]

Quick, put it in your locker!!

[fluid cedar]

thank you. very excited now.

[quartz kraken]

Okay, every redeemed wheelbarrow item has been handled. Queue is cleared out.

[reef eagle]

Mine are coming in tomorrow!

[devout bison]

so youre telling me i need to add more?

[quartz kraken]

Are you going to want the MGK black out tattoo?

[crimson elm]

Have you heard about our lord and savior the katar?

[quartz kraken]

The golden katar.

[wise lake]

What are the thoughts on true strike for a pure melee like an empath?

[wary nebula]

I thought about True Strike for a while--in fact, I even mentioned it before we knew the list of options--but it falls just short for me at the price being asked.

On paper, it's a reasonable buy for pretty much the same reason as Coup--the rank 2 or rank 3 hit sweet spots for value relative to the maneuver's max potential. I already know from having a paladin that pushing EBP down 19% (via 1614 and enough Religion lore) is really good, but rank 2 already surpasses that at 20%.

If it makes sense for any war pure at all, empath is it since A) they can replenish stamina and B) they can make it hit multiple creatures at once with 1117. For clerics, sorcerers, and wizards, I think it's ultimately just a one-off hit without a disabling component and they'd be better off with Hamstring or even Shield Bash.

[crimson elm]

what news from the front my lord?

[quartz kraken]

Unfortunately, the answer lies at the bottom of the sea (still waiting).

[crimson elm]

the bottom of the sea you say....

[noble mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/titan-titan-submersible-submarine-titanic-titanic-sub-gif-3157031911202859290

[gilded island]

Has anyone had any issues with their SK recently? One of mine stopped working.

    It seems to have quite a few enhancive charges remaining.
It will persist after its last enhancive charge has been expended.

[calm prawn]

did you fill the blinker fluid?

[devout bison]

did you turn it off and on?

[gilded island]

Blinker fluid appears full

[gilded island]

Turned enhancives off. Good call.

[calm prawn]

unironically pushing the power button

[daring fractal]

So has anyone created a MK item, and if so what did you choose and why?

[spice lintel]

i think kaetal did coup

[devout bison]

What did you do

[wary nebula]

Took Coup for all the reasons I mentioned previously.

[daring fractal]

Is it living up to your expectations?

[wary nebula]

I haven't actually gotten it yet since I didn't buy until after Shenanigans. 😂

[marsh pond]

Yeah, I got coup 1, and I've enjoyed it so much that I'm awaiting the upgrade to rank 2. Not because it's mechanically incredible - but it's tons of fun, and a good boost once in a while when it rolls well. Gotten a few open rolls for +40 empowered, and it is silly

[north kelp]

i will sale.... not having wheelbarrow certs show up in the duskruin view character screen freaks me out a lil.
anyway to allow those to be included in that view in the future?

[wary nebula]

Wheelbarrow is moving to some kind of HESS backroom thing next time.

So I slept on it, granted not much due to the time adjustment and and needing to be up a bit early.  But I'm going to be retiring from shenanigans and the wheelbarrow.  We will work on some more static offerings for a HESS backroom of sorts that will take on the wheelbarrow.```

[north kelp]

it did seem like the "fun" aspect of it being "shenanigans" seemed to disappear as people had bigger and bigger expectations

[vagrant orchid]

question, does this mean you can get a 506 SM with the prop magical orb? It specifies no SK,

This is to have an SK tattoo or an SM item created.  There are some restrictions on the spells, no 506 for SK or 515 for SK and SM, go to Discord for some info:```

[north kelp]

((Starts tabulating if he could farm 1m bloodscrip between now and close))

[junior shale]

yes Wyrom mentioned a couple times you can get SM 506 for the 1m thing

[vagrant orchid]

thank you

[junior shale]

it would be attuned still as it's not on the unattuned list, but you can get it

[vagrant orchid]

I'd have to find out for sure, we dont usually do attunement in plat

[junior shale]

yeah all I can tell you is #1139093815924379778 message is the unattuned list we were given, anything on scrolls that isn't there was said to be attuned for SM items, if there are exceptions for plat I am not aware of them

[vagrant orchid]

the wheelbarrow things do not show up in your duskruin views?

[gilded island]

No

[vagrant orchid]

thank you, I was almost worried 🙂

[crimson elm]

NO FEAR

[north kelp]

Lots of fear.

[crimson elm]

ENDLESS FEAR

[reef eagle]

A very medium amount of fear

[frigid dirge]

Fear is the mind killer. Or so I've heard.

[white anchor]

https://tenor.com/view/fear-mind-killer-dune-fear-mind-killer-gif-5603434843298106097

[weary lintel]

With fixed pricing of unlimited services, books available the entire event, gladiator exchanges accelerating and stabilizing the bloodscript valuation, there is no reason anymore to have a high end terminal auction to drain bloodscipt or incentivize accumulation for it. To appease the masses, there should continue to be violet orbs sold on last day as thanks, and some raffles for HESS quality stuff limited to one win and only if not purchased any on account, and some focused alteration opportunities limited to stuff just purchased or worked on with hess services.

[weary lintel]

I also recommend having some meaningful differentiation between the two annual runs. Some aspects of duskruin are in dire need of a refreshment: new rats, counters to see where you stand for titles, recalibrate title requirements, better resale value of duskruin drops like rats and flat stones and bag pieces. There used to be a distinct choice to be made between sewer, arena, and heist. Over the years that has been lost. It's time to really develop that out again. Finally, the costs of items continues to be off. There needs to be a market makers roundtable of player consultants at simucon to advise on what things should cost.

[gilded island]

😂😂

[white anchor]

is there an old saying about wishing in one and ....

[fluid cedar]

All i know is that dang jester in the tavern needs new jokes.

[wary nebula]

Ordinarily I’d just ignore this comment, but we’re literally only days off of entitled mentalities complaining and killing off Shenanigans when Wyrom didn’t owe anybody anything.

Duskruin doesn’t owe anyone anything either except what they pay for. It doesn’t need to “appease the masses” with free orbs, discount orbs, raffles, or alters. It doesn’t need to offer event boxes or giftboxes either. The fact that it does anyway is something to be grateful for, not a cue to insist on getting more nor even preserving those things that are already going above and beyond for player satisfaction.

Edit: Not trying to blast you, to be clear. If anything, what I'm saying is "the masses" don't need to be appeased, but I'll go further now and say the masses have been appeased for too long as is. It made things turn very, very ugly with ever increasing expectations. That phenomenon doesn't happen at Rumor Woods and didn't happen at Rings of Lumnis, which don't have free orbs nor big end-of-run events. (It does happen at Ebon Gate, but for slightly different reasons than at Duskruin.)

[exotic dagger]

Wasn't August DR always the one that got be the best new stuff? Is that still the case or we just get great new items every DR now? There used to be stratification I thought.

The Golem is a switchup, it is a seasonal play..... I guess they could have seasonal rats but thats probably too much work with seasonal runes too
There is infinite things they COULD do but only a finite amount they CAN do

And I guess banshee flare upgrades are never in season, too much effort for ghosts 👻

[weary lintel]

The masses do need a wiifm to participate at $50 despite the fact that the profits are primarily derived from whales. The point remains that the original goal of reducing bloodscript at the end of each run is no longer relevant. If there was still interest in incentivizing the $50 player up to $75, raffles at the end would still be helpful.

[crimson elm]

I think its actually about 50/50

Or rather, both demographics are important!

[wary nebula]

Maybe it's your wording that's throwing me off.

Yes, there should be incentive to buy in and, preferably, incentives to buy in more than one otherwise would have. That's not appeasing the masses, though. It's the much more straightforward transaction of selling products, services, and experiences.

(Appeasing the masses, to me, would be more like if August Duskruin offered a violet orb for 1k, then people complained because February Duskruin had two violet orbs, so then the August one gave in and offered a second for 5k. Satiating angry mobs and opportunists just escalates over the years and is unsustainable.)

[opaque scaffold]

the incentive for the masses to get bloodscrip is to buy items from the stores at duskruin, which they don't yet own

[crimson elm]

You have a pending wheelbarrow request from a special (very special) someone - feel free to slide into their dms to ridicule and mock them (its me, im the special one)

[hot wing]

Angry mobs get results in GS, look at the bard review and divergence. Same thing is gonna happen in August if the vault scroll is 1.5x rather than the 2x it was this time

[wispy nymph]

I'm bracing myself for the comedown from this 2x scroll because it's going to be rough. But it's better to have loved and lost and whatnot.

[marsh pond]

For real. Between the scroll and the fairly abundant orbs (battle vaults, CLAIMs, shenanigans) it's been a happy month for exp. The return to normalcy will be painful.

[hot wing]

It's going to draw a bright highlight through how slow advancement in this game is in general

[north kelp]

Get in line homie.

And agreed on everyone's thoughts on the looming 2xp hangover....
I made more progress this month on my main than I did in most years during the 90's / 00's.

[vagrant orchid]

does kill that secondary market though. Why buy BS from someone else when you can buy it and turn it in and get 5k xp from it

[broken forge]

I think moving the turn-in xp to instant will change that equation a bit. I don’t value it nearly as much when I can’t leverage multipliers

[north kelp]

Any updates that could be had on the # of outstanding Wheelbarrow redemptions? Just trying to give myself a sense of the queue.

[north kelp]

The fact that a secondary market is even needed means the system needs some tweaking.

[pale fern]

Yeah I can agree with this quite a bit. I will miss being able to pool it up next time for sure.

[broken forge]

I know I wont be buying books at a loss next run, that’s for sure

[winter compass]

It’s only instant if you turn in while saturated, aye? So you just can’t stack it as high

[wary nebula]

I await the legend of the whale who rolls in with like 350 25-counts and gets 1.75m(-5k) exp. 😄

[winter compass]

That’s like Level 1-35.

I got 1.4m or so during DR with everything though, the normal way.

The 2x scroll was pretty big. Added the 400k. I usually get close to 1m during DR. This one also lasted longer too.

[devout bison]

didnt smeone do the math of what it takes in those books to get to 100

[wary nebula]

If they did, I didn't see it. 😮
I was about to say the math's not hard, but actually, what I was saying before forgot about the 10 minute cooldown, so that does make things more complicated.

[clear walrus]

1515 turnins or about 10 days of RL time at 24 hours a day. or 15 -16 if you bother to sleep

[gilded island]

I vaguely remember like 38k cash to go.to cap

[clear walrus]

((7572500 / 5000) * 25) = ~38k at normal prices or ~27k at premium 1k+ block prices

or for the more frugal ((1102500 / 5000) * 25) * 0.72 = ~4k and you could skip the 90-100 grind

[north kelp]

and then think about the crazy hess goodies you'll get with 11m+ bloodscrip you get while doing it!

[white vault]

That instant turn in has no draw for me. Miss out on silver and orbs

That exp will come eventually!

[clear walrus]

it was kinda nice last time i had a mutant build guy that was a little less annoying to get resource on for a week. but it helps that i'm not one of the people that were like "oh there's 15k experience in my head. i should go afk at the locksmith pool"

[reef eagle]

4k and you could skip the 90-100 grind

I know your just doing the math for the turnins, but I went from 81 -> 100 during this DR with multipliers and getting the most out of absorbing arena XP during playing time and using turnins when I was at work/sleeping.

Went into DR a boy and came out a man.

[vagrant orchid]

that is a ton of xp

[quartz kraken]

Queue only has 3 people left from the wheelbarrow.

[vagrant orchid]

Thank you Wyrom for getting mine done!

[wary nebula]

Super excited for my new Coup too, thanks Wyrom. 😄

[quartz kraken]

Took a few hours to dig out of. Needed Monday to decompress a little bit.

[devout bison]

any chance we can find out what reward we would have gotten?

[spice lintel]

he was going to extend the 2x for the rest of 2024

[devout bison]

rip

[crimson elm]

til 2038

[reef eagle]

An enormous rift crawler moves to attack you, but freezes momentarily before madly clawing at its eyes!

Thanks zombie boss!

[north kelp]

Any tricks to using this that I'm not aware of? Using my 1706 tattoo as a reference to make sure I was doing it right:

You tap a burning flame tattoo that you are wearing.
>tap band
You tap an inked dark obsidian band that you are wearing.
>invoke 1706 from tat
  1d100: 81 + Modifiers: 247 == 328

You focus on your burning flame tattoo, concentrating on the power stored in its arcane symbols.
You feel charged with power!
>release
You feel the magic of your spell rush away from you.
>invoke 215 from band
That spell is not on the dark obsidian band.
>analyze band
You analyze your dark obsidian band and sense that the creator has provided the following information:

You get no sense of whether or not the band may be further lightened.

The band is an enhancive item with the following properties:
  Imparts knowledge of spell 215

The band has 100 of 100 charges remaining.```

[marsh pond]

SK is just prep/cast/incant, not invoke. You know the spell. (Also make sure you don't have enhancives paused)

[north kelp]

ahhhh... thank you Kaetel - had my enhancives paused. First time SK'er here. 😬

[marsh pond]

Sure! I still don't have any SKs, I'm jealous of that 215 - but I've learned a little from my MK. It might be of interest to you that there is a ;sk script that will also enable things like ;ewaggle to understand your SK. I'm not 100% sure of the specifics, but I'm sure #scripting could help sort anything out 😄

[cunning condor]

Are you asking me to provide a list of jokes to the jester for next DR cycle? You know, the crossover nobody asked for.

[fluid cedar]

....wince.... had anyone but you answered, i would have been like, absaquivikly! But you know now, i may be more careful about what i ask for.

[cedar hornet]

That gets me too! I have SK setup and wrote a script to turn my enhancives on, pull out my item, spell me up, turn enhancives off, and put it away. I put in a request to be able to move SKs to other items or transform them into a tattoo. Crossing my fingers for next DR

[north kelp]

yeah, the SK thing needing enhancives on definitely makes me change my routine.

[marsh pond]

Does that work for areas like spell sever? Is the "do I know this spell?" state captured when you cast?

I assumed you had to have the SK item on and enhancive active when the spell sever (or similar) effects did their check

[white anchor]

New Jester jokes absolutelly needs to be a top priority for upcoming DR events

[cunning condor]

https://tenor.com/view/grin-evil-evil-smile-smile-gif-15036311

[north kelp]

The "do i know the spell" check is done pretty regularly. So if you don't have enhancives on, it counts it as a foreign spell (and can be stripped).

[marsh pond]

Thanks for confirming, that's what I expected. Sounds like Morvik isn't in a place where that matters, and could probably use SM in the same way. That's mostly how SK scrolls work too - as soon as the SK portion wears off they're subject to all the systems.

[cedar hornet]

it's one of my two spell sever choices. I'd love to move it to a tattoo or a worn item. I put in a request in the duskruin form

[marsh pond]

But like..isn't that 99% of the reason to use an SK? To bypass spell sever so you can wear more buffs?

[winter compass]

That's why I'd like more SK Level 5s, hah. You could do 303, 905, 503, 401 (maybe), 101, 102, 103, 202, 601, 1202, 1204, 1601 and so on...if it matters to you. It is kind of fun not to use them though

[exotic dagger]

Then eventually it will just be having invoker spells in ascension but paid simu $10K+ for privilege lol

[cedar hornet]

I agree, which is why I hope I can move it off the crossbow. Old item, wasn't something I created. SK sneaking crossbow. Hoping to get 601 SK to complement it if the price is right

[marsh pond]

Ahhh! NOW that makes more sense! You can't wear it 😆 👍

[quartz kraken]

We came pretty close, plus we hit 1100+ people online. So I'm still going to do stuff. More on that in a few days.

[cinder kindle]

I'm excited to hear that we made it to 1100+ people!

[winter compass]

That was great to see

[crimson elm]

Weeeee

[crimson elm]

You around and down to clown by chance?

[fluid cedar]

For some reason i thought i saw we broke 1200 for a few minutes that night.

[heady vapor]

.

[crimson elm]

time for some yard work?!

[crimson elm]

@quartz kraken im @'ing you to ask you if i can @ you to tell you to check your yard work when you get a chance 👼🏻 (also i'm sorry for @'ing you)

[devout bison]

https://tenor.com/view/moment-of-silence-pay-respect-rip-rest-in-peace-bow-gif-15963301

[cunning condor]

Friendly reminder. Deeds are a great silver drain.

[vocal quiver]

#1219355008194056272 message

[weary lintel]

Did you hear the one about some rube who thought energy shields reactively flared in any stance?...

[crimson elm]

too soon

[vocal quiver]

I don't want to make light out of anyone's issues. I know it's a concern you'd like addressed sooner than later. I am outside of that particular issue and unfortunately do not have anything to add for you there.

[crimson elm]

Thadi says word is coming soon

[crimson elm]

i dont wanna spam ping wyrom cuz i know he's old now, but can a gm kindly prod him into checking his dms so we can finish my wheelbarrow cert please? ^.^

[crimson elm]

YARD WORK

[heady vapor]

He is probably still asleep