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[hardy zinc]

And "anstatt + Gen" is insetad of, right

oh ok

Das ist klar, danke

[plain umbra]

I thought anstatt and statt are both the same and both go with genitive (or dative colloquially). If this is wrong, can you explain why clearly? @tawny valley @fervent kernel

[fervent kernel]

idk it was bauchgefühl

with dativ? then i was wrong

my bad my bad <33

[plain umbra]

Yes, statt and anstatt are pretty much always described as being interchangeable, with anstatt simply sounding a bit more formal, but otherwise having the same meaning.

[undone verge]

I think I remember what you were talking about though...isn't there some weird grammar with statt, where if you are using it to 'replace' the object or subject of a sentence, it takes the same case as that thing?

I never got it.

hence just anstatt von + dative 😄

[fervent kernel]

but statt is shorter than anstatt and thus easier to say

[undone verge]

https://www.korrekturen.de/forum.pl/md/read/id/15731/sbj/nach-statt-genitiv-oder-akkusativ/#:~:text=Wenn "statt" eine Präposition ist,Konjunktion bedeutet "und nicht".

yes conjuntion vs. preposition usage

[plain umbra]

Here's the Hammer's description.

@hardy zinc Here's some clarification for you in case you missed it.

[fervent kernel]

that means both genitive/dative and accusative is correct in his sentence?

good to know, thanks yall

[hardy zinc]

Thanks!

[celest pollen]

Haben Sie den neuen Film schon gesehen?
Ich kann dir er teilen ( I can share this video with you [ I mean ] ) ✅ ❌ ?

[celest pollen]

Ich kann dir ihn teilen

[long whale]

To be on the safe side, grammar-wise, you could say "Ich kann dir den Link schicken", resp. "Ich kann ihn dir schicken", I guess. :)

@celest pollen

[near folio]

@celest pollenbei Personalpronomen ist die Reihenfolge meistens so: Nom --> Akk --> Datv

[celest pollen]

Nützlich, danke

[icy zephyr]

wie kann ich das verben mit präpositionen richtig lernen

was sind Ihre Techniken oder Möglichkeiten, sich umfangreiche Informationen für die Grammatik zu merken?

[long whale]

I'm afraid you need to learn them one by one. :)

[celest pollen]

I think you need to rework a LONG list of examples. I had English since kindergarten, I don't repeat it every day. Some games, movies. And I still remember a lot

[near folio]

leider musst du sie hauptsächlich auswendig lernen, aber es ist oft so, dass Verben die ähnlichen Bedeutung haben, die gleichen Präpositionalobjekte fordern.

ich pflege eine Liste von solchen Verben, die dir hilfreich sein könnte.

faq pferd's verb list

[stoic mauve]

Verbs with prepositions

Linked is a table of verbs with prepositional objects, and nouns and adjectives that are paired with certain prepositions. Examples sentences are given for (almost) every word.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14sOz9dpsht9aw7_z2hVhjCj-5tMc0MxshWbnerdcRPs/edit#gid=0

This table is curated by @near folio. Feel free to ping him directly if you have words or examples of your own or have noticed a mistake.

[icy zephyr]

vielen Dank für die Liste

[narrow pier]

hello

is the difference between ( Wer, Wen and Wem ) nominativ , accusativ and dativ?

[wise pendant]

more or less

[narrow pier]

what do you mean?

[swift bough]

That's actually exactly what the difference is. Not sure what he means either.

[narrow pier]

is ausgehen only used for ( sun rising ) ??

[long whale]

to rise (sun) = aufgehen (!)

[narrow pier]

sorry it was a typo

[narrow pier]

so is aufgehen only for that

its not used for a human , except if you are being poetic, i think

[long whale]

No. But only 2 very specific other uses occur to me right now.

For humans? No. Not as far as I know, poetic or not.

[narrow pier]

whats the other uses,

[long whale]

Okay, quite a few more than just 2: https://www.dwds.de/wb/aufgehen

[narrow pier]

thanks

[slate salmon]

Hello, does this makes sense? Meiner Meinung: Mir ist bewusst, dass der Krieg in der Ukraine das Leben für viele Menschen sehr schwierig gemacht hat. Viele sind gestorben und verletzt, und mussten ihre Heimat verlassen. Aus meiner Perspektive, der Krieg hat kein einziger Vorteil, doch wie ich sehe, es gibt jedoch einige. Ich finde es nur traurig, dass sie so lang gewartet haben, Kohlendioxid-freien Industrie im Rücksicht zu nehmen.

[undone verge]

Meiner Meinung nach = in my opinion
Meine Meinung: = my opinion.
here you've mixed them

[slate salmon]

Oh, thank you:)

[undone verge]

also: Aus meiner Perspektive hat der Krieg

the sentence doesn't make sense apart from that. 'From my perspective, the war doesn't have a single plus side, but as I see (it), there are some...'

also not sure why you randomly start talking about carbon dioxide free industry at the end. But maybe I'm just not up enough with the news to see the relevance...

[slate salmon]

I am laughing so hard rn, im sorry (this supposed to be my opinion on a random article called "Scholz sucht Schulterschluss mit Japan")

And thank you for the help again:D

[hardy zinc]

Wie benutzt man "rund"? Ich sehe ein Beispiel: "Große Städte gibt es in der Region rund um den Flughafen nicht". So "rund um [Akkusativ]"?

[whole portal]

around

And yea

[hardy zinc]

danke, so, "Viele Menschen sind rund um mich" ist ok?

[half falcon]

what does "worden" mean?

[mellow nova]

It is the past participle of werden used in Perfekt construction of Vorgangspassiv

[long whale]

It's correct, grammar-wise, but slightly unidiomatic. :)

[flint jungle]

should we say "..., hat sich meinen Bruder für Kunst interessiert" or "..., hat meinen Bruder sich für Kunst interessiert"?

[narrow pier]

hi i think ( kein and nicht are discussed in the botchannel ) what should i type to get that ??

[mellow nova]

faq negation

with >

[long whale]

Neither works. jemand (Nom) interessiert sich für etwas/jemanden (Akk)

[flint jungle]

could you told it with my sentence please?

[mellow nova]

just change brother from accusative to nominative

o and the first one

[flint jungle]

oh yes sorry

but I had a doubt on the place of the "sich"

should we say "..., hat sich mein Bruder für Kunst interessiert" or "..., hat mein Bruder sich für Kunst interessiert"?

[mellow nova]

to my knowledge, with pronouns it would be pronoun>reflexive pronoun; but with nouns like mein Bruder it goes reflexive>noun

but idk if that's completely correct
(like hat er sich/hat sich mein Bruder)

[flint jungle]

okay thank you

[long whale]

At least in spoken German, we aren't that strict about "hat sich mein Bruder" vs. "hat mein Bruder sich", but hat sich er definitely doesn't work. :)

-> better memorize Delli's rule.

[narrow pier]

( for this sentence , Präteritum is used, which is not used so often , as far as I seen , but as I assume, there are some vebs whcih are preferable to not use Perfekt when you wanna talk about the Past ( Vergangenheit ) like this one : er hatte einen ,

is this topic discussed in the botchannel , if yes , what to type to get it

[fervent kernel]

I see.

Did you mean etymology?

[long whale]

I think it's

faq past tense

[stoic mauve]

Past Tense

German has two basic past tenses: Perfekt and Präteritum.

What’s the difference? Which one should I use?

To put it simply: Perfekt is used for spoken and casual German, and Präteritum is used for formal writing such as novels. For anything in between or if you’re unsure, it’s best to simply ask a native speaker. But most of the time, you will be using Perfekt, so it’s recommended that you learn that first!

However, even when you are using the Perfekt tense, a few verbs are often still used in Präteritum. This varies by region! Some native speakers use 100% Perfekt tense when they speak, but most people use at least a few words with Präteritum in their speech.

The main verbs commonly used in Präteritum form even when using Perfekt are:
• haben (e.g. ich hatte instead of ich habe gehabt)
• sein (e.g. ich war instead of ich bin gewesen)
• modal verbs
• wissen, denken (e.g. ich wusste, ich dachte)

The following are sometimes also used in Präteritum form but not as pervasively:
• bleiben, brauchen, finden, geben, gehen, laufen, liegen, rufen, sehen, sitzen, stehen, tun

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[narrow pier]

thank you Susana

[scarlet acorn]

Hallo Alle, Ich habe eine Frage. Warum benutzen wir “haben” in dieses satz - 1) sie haben ab Nachmittag bis spät in die Nacht geöffnet. Aber wir benutzen “Sind” in 2) Sie sind nur im Sommer geöffnet. Was ist der Unterschied zwischen diese Sätze??

[wise pendant]

From what I could gather, most other place names don't just mean "land of the people" but various different things:

England <- Enge land <- Land of the Angles <- Land of the tribe at the narrow waters (With Angelus borrowed from Latin)
Deutschland <- Diutsc lant <- Land of the people
Danmark <- marshland of the Danes (<- Marshland of the lowland people)
België <- (lat.) Belgae <- People who swell (with fury/anger)
Türkiye <- Land of our ancestors
Ελλάδα (Greece) <- (Land) of the Hellen tribe [further etymology unknown]
Italia <- (oscan 𐌅𐌝𐌕𐌄𐌋𐌉𐌞) land of the bulls
Österreich (austria) <- (Ostarrîchi) the eastern realm
España <- coast of hyraxes / shrewmice (or land of the north)

And then there are the obvious ones like
Nederland <- The lowland
Ísland <- The icy land
Grønland <- The green land

[long whale]

Often, there is not much difference between sind geöffnet and haben geöffnet - not when talking about shops, restaurants, etc. :)

[ancient pulsar]

Hätten Sie bitte einen Kuli für mich?

is this a polite way to ask for a pen?

[wise pendant]

yep

[ancient pulsar]

bitte kinda confused me

thanks

[scarlet acorn]

Danke für die Hilfe! ♥️

[pure mountain]

Ja! Genau! I misspelled it

Thanks for realizing, I fixed it.

[pure mountain]

That's a lot of interesting backstory.
It's quite ironic for Turkey. Because Turkish people came from the North, which nowadays is middle Russia (approx).

The same comes to Italy (land of bulls). Hahaha, it would be more appropriated for Spain.

[radiant pilot]

don't know if others already pointed it out: "Der Krieg hat keinen einzigen Vorteil" and further "ich finde es nur traurig, dass sie so lang gewartet haben, auf Kohlendioxid-freien Industrie Rücksicht zu nehmen" but i still don't get what you're trying to say

[long whale]

auf jemanden Rücksicht nehmen = to be considerate towards. So... :)

[radiant pilot]

yeah

but i still don't get it

[pure mountain]

I knew the España's name origin.
It comes from a phoenician (probably misspelled) word which was latinized into "Hispania".

[mellow nova]

The original settlers of Italy (pre-romans) used the Bull as their symbol

[pure mountain]

Interesting

I saw that somewhere in some documentary.

I guess countries or states from Asia. Could have that common name's origin.

(To be fair, I'm speaking without knowing much)

I know for example the Russia origin:
"The tribe of Rus"

[mellow nova]

most of central asia are the same

stan = land

[wise pendant]

I mean china calls themselves "land of the middle" and japanese call themselves "sun origin"

[radiant pilot]

just to piss off the chinese, afaik

[pure mountain]

I knew that as well.

[mellow nova]

ok

[radiant pilot]

mods having their fun, i guess

suit yourselves

[pure mountain]

Learned that from a movie.
And Japan's name make sense.

[still coyote]

japan's name does make sense

[pure mountain]

No?

[still coyote]

ok

[pure mountain]

Their flag represents it really much

[still coyote]

yea

they were also the sunrise kingdom for a while

[pure mountain]

Curious

[still coyote]

their flag resembled that during world war 2

[wise pendant]

I mean Thailand seems to mean something like "land of the people"

[proud summit]

HI

SUP

[still coyote]

the capital of thailand in thai though

[pure mountain]

I knew there were more with that name. Though I thought there were more.

[still coyote]

like ive seen native thais saying it and it took them like i minute

[pure mountain]

I mean, more than just Germany and Thailand.

[proud summit]

I DON'T KNOW HOW TO SPEAK GERMAN

[radiant pilot]

New zealand should be called Japan

[pure mountain]

😎 you're in the right place then

[potent cloud]

Alright no need for caps though.

[radiant pilot]

no one does here

[wise pendant]

Vietnam means like "Southern large-battle-axe-people" (as far as I could find out)

[pure mountain]

Lol

What a long name

[proud summit]

U ARE ALSO IN THE ENGLISH SERVER

[still coyote]

sounds like texans but replace battle axe with guns

[pure mountain]

Exactly

[wise pendant]

南越 comes from these characters

[potent cloud]

Indeed

[proud summit]

are u from greece

[pure mountain]

I am learning too many etymologies all of a sudden.

[potent cloud]

Is this an interrogation of some sort? 👀

You can clearly see that in my bio, yes.

[pure mountain]

Yesterday, I was learning Latin and Ancient Greek words roots.

[proud summit]

no just cuz some people put any sticker u are not like them

[still coyote]

i forgot how to germany

[proud summit]

yes der mann

[pure mountain]

There's also "Iberia" which I guess, the meaning was "land of snakes".

[ancient pulsar]

bruh iberia is the name of my country, that is how the region was called in old times

[pure mountain]

Interessant 😎

[ancient pulsar]

it is the caucasus region

southern caucasus

[pure mountain]

Let me guess. Georgia?

🇬🇪

[potent cloud]

Aren't you writing a test? 😅

[ancient pulsar]

i just submitted

[pure mountain]

For a second I thought you were Iberian.

[potent cloud]

Ah okay, in that case, it looked good:D

[ancient pulsar]

lol i lied

hjehehehehhehehe

[potent cloud]

aight

[ancient pulsar]

just kidding, i really submitted

[pure mountain]

That's also the case for me.

😎

[ancient pulsar]

wait?

you georgian?

[pure mountain]

No.

The other Iberia.

[ancient pulsar]

ohhh, Spain

[pure mountain]

Genau 😎

[ancient pulsar]

thanks btw

[slate salmon]

thank you ^^

[pure mountain]

Why do both countries have the same etymology?

[slate salmon]

.

[ancient pulsar]

we had discussions about that but idk the exact reason

[pure mountain]

I see. It's interesting though

[ancient pulsar]

ig it was smth related to religious people migrating

either from georgia to spain, or otherwise

[pure mountain]

Basques are supposed to be Georgian mercenaries

(well not georgian but the people who lived in nowadays Georgia)

If you don't know who are the basques. They are a community from a region on northern Spain.

[ancient pulsar]

i've heard them being in Spain, but didnt know the exact region

[pure mountain]

It's called "Basque country"

"Euskadi" in their language

Or "Euskal Herria"

[ancient pulsar]

there was something related to them wanting independence, recently

[pure mountain]

Yeah

It's because their unique culture

You should research 'em, if you're interested

I'm actually half Basque

[ancient pulsar]

just doing that right now :D

[pure mountain]

Nice choice 😎

[pure mountain]

Also, thought that Hispania came from Inspanya (coast of smiths), but probably that was "Cádiz" (Gadir /GDR)

'GDR" Because phoenicians didn't use vowels (?)

As I remember

[fervent kernel]

What are nomens? Guys

[narrow pier]

ich hatte einen Sohn das ist kurz nach Geburt gestorben ( is this sentence correct ()

[potent cloud]

Nomen is more like noun, if you mean grammar-wise

[fervent kernel]

So nomens are just names?

[potent cloud]

Nomen is noun, and Pronomen pronoun, for example.

[fervent kernel]

Oh okay

[mellow nova]

no

Ich hatte einen Sohn is right but the relaative clause is not

[potent cloud]

Also needs a comma, I think.

[narrow pier]

i heard a hatte and storben or gestorben but i wasnt sure( the sub. doesnt exactly match the audio , )

[mellow nova]

1. the relative clause pronoun (you used das) needs to match the noun + the purpose (case) of the noun [in the relative clause]
2. like in clauses formed with weil/damit etc, relative clauses send verbs to the end
3. Geburt needs an article
4. you need a comma before starting a relative clause

[narrow pier]

so can you use ( hatte + partizip ) ?? does this exist??

[mellow nova]

yes that is called Plusquamperfekt but it's not relevant to your sentence

[narrow pier]

i will just leave the audio, cause i cant guess it , thanks btw

[mellow nova]

wha

[narrow pier]

so the sentence doesnt work

with Plusquamperfekt??

[mellow nova]

not by itself no

[potent cloud]

There is no Plusquamperfekt in the sentence you sent

[mellow nova]

you would need a following clause

I had a son who had died shortly after birth, but then he came back to life

idk it's a weird sentence to force pluperfect into

[narrow pier]

i get it

[half falcon]

Es machte durchaus nicht den Eindruck eines mitten in der Wüste verlorenen Kindes, tausend Meilen von jeder bewohnten Gegend.

what does durchaus mean in that phrase?

[undone verge]

durchaus is something like 'completely'

[half falcon]

so the phrase is saying something like "the kid didn't seem to be completely lost"?

[undone verge]

no

it's talking about the impression the kid makes, which is 'completely not that of a kid who's lost in the middle of the desert'

i.e. the kid doesn't look (or act? idk no context) at all like a kid who is lost in the middle of a desert 1000s of miles from the nearest town

[half falcon]

oh, ok, i get it

[junior flame]

"Eine handlungsstarke Geschichte", this was the title of a story.
What is the meaning of "handlungsstark"?

[swift bough]

basically "action packed"

[steel patrol]

From what I can gather, "jedoch" and "allerdings" are interchangeable. Is that right?

[long whale]

Not always. "allerdings" can also be used to mean something like "certainly/indeed".

[steel patrol]

I'll keep that in mind, thank you!

(But just to clarify, is one as good as the other in many/possibly most instances?)

[long whale]

I guess so. Although it seems to me "jedoch" is pretty rare in spoken German.

[steel patrol]

Ok, thank you very much for clearing that up for me!

[olive sluice]

Hey, was bedeutet „der Fuchs im Hühnerstall“?

[long whale]

Did you look up the words? If so, what do you think will happen if there is der Fuchs im Hühnerstall? ;)

[olive sluice]

Ich vermute, dass es um „Playboy“ geht. Aber ich weiß nicht genau.😂

[long whale]

Okay, what's "Fuchs" and what's "Hühnerstall"?

[olive sluice]

Fuchs ist Fox, Hühnerstall bedeutet hen-house

[long whale]

Exactly. What will a fox do if you lock it into a henhouse? Will it peacefully go to sleep?

[olive sluice]

Ehrlich gesagt weiß ich nicht.😂 Fresst der Fuchs die Hühner?

[long whale]

*frisst - Exactly. The chickens are going to be very upset, and the fox will eventually kill them all. If you give me some context, we'll see whether the sentence is about the chickens getting VERY upset, or about the fox killing them. :)

@olive sluice

[olive sluice]

Danke für deine tolle Erklärung! Leider habe ich kein genaues Kontext, Ich habe nur im Gespräch das Wort gehört. Sie haben gleichzeitig „der Frauenheld“ erwähnt. Deswegen vermute ich, dass die Bedeutung ähnlich wie „playboy“ ist. Und ich weiß nicht, wie kann man das Wort „der Fuchs im Hühnerstall“ benutzen.

[long whale]

You can use it when somebody gets a job they are totally unsuitable for, like asking a criminal to manage a bank.

[olive sluice]

Danke sehr! :))

[narrow pier]

hi, so is vergehen, usually used for the passage of time ( time passes , die Zeiten vergeht ) , but what about this sentence ( Ich schrecke aus dem Schlaf und weiß,
dass nichts vergeht,,,,,which means : I wake up from sleep and know,
that nothing passes. ) by nothing he means ( time) right ?? and no where mentions that schrecke can mean to wake up ???

[long whale]

schrecken, aufschrecken, hochschrecken mean "to start", the way you do when something frightens you. Plus, things like pain can also pass (or not).

[narrow pier]

so what do you think that sentence means, even with the english , i cant comprehend it?

[narrow pier]

and did you mean " to startle " or " to start" ?? because it doesn't make sense

[long whale]

Well, wenn something startles you, you start, to my knowledge.

[narrow pier]

i dont get it, to start = to startle ( I am not familiar with this )

[mellow nova]

if you learned Ame. Eng. then you probably havent heard this use of the verb

i can't speak for br eng but ya we don't really use it

[narrow pier]

whats Ame.

[mellow nova]

an example would be 'He started when the door slammed'

it means he like jumped i guess

the sound of the door startled him, so he started

[narrow pier]

i have never heard , you guys must be at a much higher level in english of course

[narrow pier]

okay , i get it now

[mellow nova]

Well I'm a native but yeah you very rarely hear it

[narrow pier]

[long whale]

To get back to the sentence you were asking about, the first part is "Frightened, I wake up", and you could translate "vergehen/vergeht" as "to fade/fades" here, I guess, if that makes you understand it better.

[narrow pier]

and to fade means to gradually faint ??

[long whale]

No! Did you even try to look it up?

[narrow pier]

yes

of course

[mellow nova]

I don't really understand what is meant by 'fade' either here

[potent cloud]

grow faint=/=faint, I guess 🤷‍♀️

[long whale]

to faint = to lose consciousness. to fade = to lessen/pass (pain, memories).

[narrow pier]

thanks

guys

[mossy cypress]

Doing some exercises with separable/inseparable verbs and run into some doubts:

Es ist sieben Uhr. Er muss aufstehen
I should remove modal verbs and divide the verb (if possible, if it's a separable verb)
I guessed it should be Es ist sieben Uhr. Er hat stehen brauchen auf, but I'm sure this must be wrong, doesn't sounds right.

Also, another exercise has rauchen (to smoke). It should be a separable verb, but I don't see what to separate, ra- maybe? Or it's an exception?

[long whale]

Instead of "It's seven o'clock. He has to get up", just write "... He gets up". I bet there is another verb in the sentence about "rauchen", a separable one, and I bet it means "to stop" ;)

[fervent kernel]

Beesana

[mellow nova]

can someone explain this expression it's making my brain hurt
“wer brauchen ohne zu gebraucht, braucht brauchen überhaupt nicht zu gebrauchen.”

[potent cloud]

Wann wirst du endlich damit aufhören?

[fervent kernel]

[long whale]

It's just supposed to remind people to use the infinitive after brauchen with "zu": Those who use "need" without "zu" ought not to use "need" at all. (I guess you could make up a better English version, bec of the funny needn't do/don't need to do thingie.) Did that help?

[potent cloud]

You would understand it so much better if it was written with the quotes , I think
wer ''brauchen'' ohne ''zu'' gebraucht, braucht ''brauchen'' überhaupt nicht zu gebrauchen

[mellow nova]

it was about the modal usage of brauchen so I suppose it's just reminding you to use the infinitive (similar to modal verbs) instead of the P2 in perfect construction of this usage?

[long whale]

No, that wouldn't occur to a native speaker, I think. It's about native speakers frequently saying (dialectal? colloquial?) stuff like Das brauchst du nicht tun instead of the correct "Das brauchst du nicht zu tun" :)

And yes, Delli, I just noticed the error in my 1st post - edited accordingly. Oops!

[mellow nova]

https://www.christianlehmann.eu/fundus/Deutsch/Dt_brauchen2Modalverb.html if you have a minute, this is the website. It says there are 3 principals for verbs that ultimately separate them into Vollverben/Modalverben

Wenn man schließlich brauchen in die Konstruktion von B2 einsetzt, stellt man fest, daß die Variante mit gebraucht (wie in B2.a) eher unüblich ist und man besser die Infinitivform brauchen einsetzt (wie in B2.b). Hier also verhält sich brauchen schon ganz wie die Modalverben.
(B2:
a. Er hat das nicht zu sagen beabsichtigt.
b. Er hat das nicht sagen können.)

This is where I'm confused, if I'm reading that line right it says you can substitute 'brauchen' in the B2.b example

but not gebraucht

[long whale]

Mm... 👀 I'm also confused about the B1.b example. Because according to what I learnt (and what that stupid tounge-breaker is about), Das braucht er nicht zweimal sagen is not correct. 🤷

[mellow nova]

oh i guess i'll just ignore this source then haha

might be some colloquial thing that most people don't use

[long whale]

Or maybe it's changed in the - considerable - meantime (since I was at school). What does Hammer's have to say about it?

[mellow nova]

i... don't have hammer

don't crucify me

[potent cloud]

Hammer's

@long whale @mellow nova

[fervent kernel]

[mellow nova]

ty

do you think it's saying in the bottom paragraph it's acceptable in colloquial speech or it's acceptable regardless

[long whale]

I'd say they say it's acceptable regardless (even though it makes me shudder). 🤷

[steel patrol]

How do you say "mediation languge" in German correctly? I was watching a video yesterday where the lady that was talking clearly said "das ist unsere Vermittlungssprache" (at least as far as I could tell, without having subtitles on), but when I put that into Google, it tries to correct it to "Vermittlung Sprache", and if I click on that suggestion then suddenly it shows me pages full of results that say "Vermittlung von Sprache / Vermittlung der Sprache". I'm so confuuused.

[mossy cypress]

I thought about "Er steht auf" but seems too simple that something isnt right lol

[long whale]

I think what you're looking for is Brückensprache (You mean the language I'd use to teach you German if your native language were one I didn't speak, right?)

[steel patrol]

Yes, a language that two (or more) people use in order to be able to communicate with one another (I'm not sure if it has to be like a 'rule' that none of them speak it natively, but we definitely both mean the same thing here). :)

"Brückensprache" seems like such a logical solution, impossible to forget! Shall I just easily dismiss all those other options then?

P.S. Sorry for bothering you with follow up questions for the second time in the same day! You don't, of course, have to go into detail and always provide very thorough explanations, I always appreciate any answer you're willing to give.

[long whale]

Well, "Vermittlungssprache seemed quite nice/good/logical to me, but there's only one entry for it on linguee (example sentences, I mean) which makes me think I'd definitely go for "Brückensprache" (lots of entries in my search engine for that as well) - Don't worry, it's a pleasure. :)

[grand otter]

Souverän vermischt der Erzähler die verschiedenen Zeitebenen, wechselt unvermittelt zwischen der Vorgeschichte des Mords und der Gegenwart, in der das Fehlurteil gegen Gordon aufgehoben wurde.

what is "sourverän", and "wechselt unvermittelt" meaning here in the context?

[proven sphinx]

"souverän" means something like "confidently" or "masterfully" in this context. "unvermittelt" means like "surprisingly, unexpectedly, without warning".

[grand otter]

so entire sentence would be like:
the narrator masterfully mixed different time phases, and surprisingly changed it between the previous cases of the death and present in the false cases against Gorden.
?

[proven sphinx]

The narrator confidently mixes the different time scales, abruptly changing between the background of the murder and the present, where Gordon's wrongful conviction is overturned.

[grand otter]

ok, thx, it was really helpful!

[narrow pier]

hi, so in a test when it asks for ( Familie ? ) if you are living with your parents, how would you say it in german, do you have to specify it like( ich bin noch ledig, aber ich wohne doch mit meine eltern und Meine Familie besteht aus fünf personen )

i know i used doch wrong , please correct me, and tell me if its a good response or no

[near folio]

... mit (oder bei) meinen Eltern und meine Familie besteht aus fünf Personen.

sonst okay

warum hast du erwähnt, dass du ledig bist?

[narrow pier]

weil ich bin

[near folio]

ja du bist aber auch am Leben aber du erwähnst das nicht ich hätte aber genau sein sollen, hat die Prüfung das gefragt?

[narrow pier]

ich bin noch ledig, aber ich wohne doch bei meinen Eltern und meine Familie besteht aus fünf Personen ( how can I decide if its " meinen Eltern " or " meine Eltern " I learned the grammer but i am always confused

[fervent kernel]

@near folioNa du wildes Ross.

[narrow pier]

ja

[long meadow]

instead of "doch" -> noch

[narrow pier]

i thought it would sound weird

ich bin ledig, aber ich wohne noch bei meinen Eltern und meine Familie besteht aus fünf Personen

i think that contains no errors

[near folio]

im Plural:
meine --> Nominativ oder Akkusativ
meinen --> Dativ

siehe auch:

[narrow pier]

I had no idea it would get to dativ case

[swift bough]

meinen kann auch Akkusativ sein

[narrow pier]

because of the bei

[narrow pier]

but not for Eltern

[swift bough]

yeah no

[fervent kernel]

alter mir fällt grad auf das ich schon Jahre lang keine Grammatik mehr gelernt habe

[narrow pier]

so when it asks about family , was that response okay, like saying , i am single and live with my parents??

[near folio]

ich glaube, dein Familienstand wäre ihnen egal aber es kann nicht schaden, es zu sagen.

[long meadow]

saying that ur single kinda seems unnecessary when ur asked ab ur family, u could say that u have 2 brothers for example if thats the case

and instead of ledig if u wanna say that ur single u can just say "Ich bin single"

[long meadow]

no, doch sounds weird

noch is like "still"
Ich wohne NOCH bei meinen Eltern
i still live w my parents

[swift bough]

Well I guess you can count a partner as part of your family, maybe that is why they thought it would be necessary to mention.

[long meadow]

ah yeah ig

[swift bough]

Especially if you are married to them

They are literally your family

[long meadow]

yeah but in that case u can just say ur single

ich bin single

[near folio]

"single" wäre vielleicht ein bisschen zu umgangssprachlich für eine Prüfung

[long meadow]

Ich bin nicht vergeben

then

[near folio]

klingt gut

[narrow pier]

i am just gonna go casual ( Mein Familie besteht aus sechs Personen, ich habe einen größeren Bruder, und zwei Schwestern, eine davon ist jüngere als mich, und die andere ist verheiratet, sie hat einen Kind. er heißt Mikkel ) this will contain a lot of " Fehler "

[hasty cobalt]

uiui viele fehler

[long meadow]

Meine Familie
einen größeren Bruder
jünger als ich

are u trying to say older or taller with größer?

[narrow pier]

yes, I thought it would be weird to say ( meine Familie ) without mentioning , it's not your own family, I did'nt know how to express it

[narrow pier]

Das meine ich auch

[narrow pier]

i knew

[narrow pier]

i wanted to say older

Meine Familie besteht aus sechs Personen, ich habe einen älteren Bruder, und zwei Schwestern, eine davon ist jünger als mich, und die andere ist verheiratet, sie hat einen Kind. er heißt Mikkel ( is this correct )

[long meadow]

use älter then

try to correct it with älter

[narrow pier]

so it doent mean too old , I thought that was used differently

[long meadow]

would be einen älteren Bruder then

no it just means older

eine davon ist jünger als ich und die andere ist verheiratet. Sie hat ein Kind, er heißt Mikke.

"too old" would be "zu alt"

[narrow pier]

I just looked at the dictionary and decided to use those endings

[long meadow]

oh and "Meine Familie" since its Die Familie

[narrow pier]

I am not too proud with that sentence , imagine saying that would be like what ( i dont wanna say difficult )

[long meadow]

wdym

u wanna know h9ow to say "I am not too proud with that sentence"?

[hasty cobalt]

its a very strange text

im trying to correct it rn

[mellow nova]

don't use da compounds for people

[hasty cobalt]

Ich habe eine sechsköpfige Familie, welche aus meinem älteren Bruder und meinen zwei Schwestern besteht. Eine meiner Schwestern ist jünger als ich und die andere verheiratet und hat ein Kind namens Mikkel.

oh wait

[mellow nova]

'one is younger and the other is married' is odd

[hasty cobalt]

ye

[hasty cobalt]

I tried my best to correct it but the sentence was a bit strange

[mellow nova]

O yeah this was directed at the other guy I believe in your correction skills sensei

[hasty cobalt]

[potent cloud]

Yeah, you should also add in the parents if you are gonna say what your 6 member family consists of 🤷‍♀️ Because they just mention 4 with them included.

Yeah what do I know 😌 🤷‍♀️

To me at least it sounds weird

[hasty cobalt]

yr

[hasty cobalt]

I think he will write that too but just gave us that part

[narrow pier]

but mine was for a2 ( i thought making my own sentence was hard ) but idk, maybe its appropriate to use this ( since i am planning to take a b1 test

[hasty cobalt]

Your sentence was a bit strange structured

[narrow pier]

one question, you didnt iclude even saying you have parents, and what exactly is namens , please ?? 💟

[narrow pier]

you mean that it was tranlating from your head ?

[mellow nova]

namens = mit dem Namen

[narrow pier]

well you cant say( one is younger , and the other is older and married) this would sound super weirdd

[mellow nova]

Ich habe einen Hund namens Kaja.
Mein Hund heißt also Kaja.

[mellow nova]

I have one younger sister and one older sister, the latter is married.

[narrow pier]

it must have been a mistake of mine, i am sorry

[narrow pier]

latter??

[mellow nova]

the former: the first thing
the latter: the 2nd thing

[hasty cobalt]

latter - letztere

right?

@mellow nova

[mellow nova]

joa

[hasty cobalt]

Okok

[upper ember]

Bezieht die Kritik auf euch nicht = die war nicht auf euch gerichtet, stimmts?

[hasty cobalt]

what r u trying to say?

[narrow pier]

Ich habe eine sechsköpfige Familie, welche aus meinen Eltern, meinem älteren Bruder und meinen zwei Schwestern besteht. Eine meiner Schwestern ist jünger als ich und die anderes ist älter. Sie ist verheiratet und hat ein Kind namens Mikkel ( so this was Naruto s edition , did I mess it up, or is it fine now )

[hasty cobalt]

*andere ist älter

größer is weird

[inner kestrel]

Is gern geschehen used, I don’t think I’ve ever seen it used but I’m still a beginner

[upper ember]

Lies mal meinen Satz :)

[upper ember]

Natürlich :-)

[hasty cobalt]

Die Kritik ist nicht an euch gerichtet

sounds better

[inner kestrel]

Oh ok cool, herzliches danke

[hasty cobalt]

oder "...war nicht an euch gerichtet."

[narrow pier]

if i use the latter word that whole sentece of yours will need to be formulated another way , right??
, one part of it must be changed

[hasty cobalt]

but why you write anderes

[mellow nova]

it's very often shortened to gerne

[hasty cobalt]

or bitte

like bitte schön

[mellow nova]

well that's just a different word

[upper ember]

Die Frage war eher, ob auf sich etwas beziehen die Bedeutung hätte

[hasty cobalt]

I really dont understand your question, sorry

[upper ember]

Ich frage jemanden anderen, danke nochmals

[hasty cobalt]

kein problem

[long whale]

Word order: Bezieht die Kritik nicht auf euch = You were not the ones being criticized - yes.

@upper emberPlease try to memorize these: https://learnoutlive.com/german-negation-nicht/ (As you can see, it can really throw native speakers if it's in the wrong position. :) )

[narrow pier]

Ich habe eine sechsköpfige Familie, welche aus meinem älteren Bruder und meinen zwei Schwestern besteht. Eine meiner Schwestern ist jünger als ich und die ältere von beiden ist verheiratet. Sie ist verheiratet und hat ein Kind namens Mikkel ( sorry i tool too much time on this question, but do i use this as the response for the a2 test )??

[hasty cobalt]

hmm maybe *Die ältere von beiden ist verheiratet...

[upper ember]

Hätten Sie Quellen auf Französisch, die ich lesen könnte?

[hasty cobalt]

to point out which one of them is married

[long whale]

... google? In French? 🤔

[narrow pier]

thank you dude, helped me so much

[hasty cobalt]

np

[upper ember]

Bezieht nicht die Kritik auf euch
Bezieht die Kritik nicht auf euch

Passt die erste Stellung auch? Oder nur die zweite? Manchmal habe ich Schwierigkeiten damit, zu wissen wo nicht im Satz stehen muss. Ich habe dafür noch kein Sprachgefühl. Soweit ich weiß, bin ich nicht der Einzige, der dieses Problem mit dem Wortchen nicht hat!

[long whale]

Certainly - all beginners have problems with the position of nicht. :)

[potent cloud]

Die erste Stellung von ''nicht'' kann passen, wenn du sowas sagen möchtest : Bezieht diese Kritik nicht auf euch. Also, wenn du sagen willst, dass sie diese spezielle Kritik nicht auf sich beziehen sollen. Die zweite Stellung ist allerdings am üblichsten.

[fervent kernel]

Ich bin Pyra. Meine grammatik hat sich verbessert. Ich kann auch sehr viele Vokabel. Meine letzte Lektion war über Essen. Meine Lieblingsfrucht ist Apfel. Mein lieblingsessen ist pizza. Ich esse auch sehr gerne Salate mit Tomaten und Gurken.

[hasty cobalt]

*Grammatik (Nomen groß) *ist der Apfel (Du redest über den Apfel generell) *Lieblingsessen (Nomen groß) *Pizza (Namen auch groß) *Salat (Musst kein Plural hier machen)

but you can say Salate aswell

[fervent kernel]

[graceful goblet]

so there is this word that means to form clots/clumps in English (curdle)

curdle (transitive, intransitive) To form curds so that it no longer flows smoothly; to cause to form such curds. (usually said of milk)
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/curdle

it's a name of a character and it was translated into German as

Rinnsel

the rinn(en) part is about flow

so I'm assuming the sel part is about a seal of some sort = to curdle the flow so to speak

any ideas which word it's come from? 👀

[long whale]

https://www.dwds.de/wb/Rinnsel

[long whale]

It's the poetic version of "das Rinnsal" (which is the - very thin - remaining stream of liquid of something formerly much bigger (a brook or stream may become a "Rinnsal" after a long drought)

"to curdle" would translate to "gerinnen"

[graceful goblet]

hmm

I need to start using more dictionaries

huh

what about this

the 'kriek' part

does that give off

'river/creek'

on its own

[long whale]

Krick, not kriek It's just part of the name. Whut? No.

[graceful goblet]

duden lists it as Kriekente too 👀

as both 🤔

that's the name I was trying to figure out if it makes sense

and I must say I'm very sceptical about it

[long whale]

Yeah, but the "krick/kriek" is supposed to be onomatopoetic (something to do with the sounds they make)

[graceful goblet]

oh so it's related to ducks and not the creek

but then that could be an interpretation

of creek

as creak

also wiktionary says creek is dialectal for creaks https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/crick#Etymology_2

🙄

[graceful goblet]

thanks for that, it's these tidbits of random German knowledge that I lack 😆

[long whale]

https://www.etymonline.com/word/Creek

[long whale]

DWDS often gives info about etymology - just scroll down. :)

[graceful goblet]

Drew another connection with these two sites you sent 👀

https://www.dwds.de/wb/Eck#etymwb-1

https://www.etymonline.com/search?q=peck

peck(en) into eck(de) for either pecking like birds (with a weapon, possibly) or something similar

do you have any more magical etymology sources? 😄 /brb

[long whale]

No. And I hate to break it to you, but just because 2 words contain the same syllable/the same letters/sounds doesn't mean they're necessarily related. To wit: the Turkish word "armut" means "pear", while the German noun "die Armut" means poverty. :)

Now, the English word "town" is indeed related to the German "Zaun", it's just that the English word has come to mean what's inside an enclosure, while the German word means the enclosure itself: fence.

[honest wadi]

"Kannst du zu Hause am Computer arbeiten" why it's not aus Hause and zu Hause? Isn't it supposed to mean "Can you you work from home?"

[long whale]

No, we say the equivalent of "to work at home". 🤷

[honest wadi]

oh okay I see

[long whale]

"from home" would be "von zu Hause aus"

[honest wadi]

ok ok perfect

thanks

[graceful goblet]

yeah that's exactly my point most of the time but until I thoroughly examine a translation I cannot say it's half-baked 👀

and I still can only guess what 'Halbeck' is supposed to mean even with the etymology

[long whale]

And what is that supposed to be? Because AFAIK, that isn't a German word - unless it's a name?

[graceful goblet]

yes I should have made it more clear*

I wanted to add

this

to my nickname

I'm basically digging through a heap of translated names for my BA and I sometimes wonder how someone who's not trying hard to figure out the meaning would react

because most of them look nonsensical to me at first glance but I'm not the target audience 🤔

[viral jolt]

is there a grammarly or hemmingwayapp alternative for german?

[hasty cobalt]

https://rechtschreibpruefung24.de/
or
https://www.duden.de/rechtschreibpruefung-online

[near moss]

So I'm curious what is the difference with wieso and warum they both mean why dont they?

[long whale]

No difference, except "wieso" is considered a little colloquial by some people.

[half bloom]

ive heard in an easy german video "... über das Gehalt" but on verbformen it says der, both is correct?

oh wait on verbformen there is both

whats the difference, both is translated as salary?

[undone verge]

two different words

das Gehalt = salary
der Gehalt = the 'content' of something

oh wait, duden says that salary can be either neutrum or masculin, so I guess both work for salary

but only masculine for the second meaning

[wise pendant]

I'd say you are correct tho

Never heard "der Gehalt" for salary I think

[night dagger]

als Deutschlerner hab ich "der Gehalt" auch nie gesehen

[rare jetty]

Never heard der Gehalt in money context too

[long whale]

Austrian.

[half bloom]

Deutsche sind wahnsinnig ungeduldig. - i looked wahnsinnig up and i got mad/insane, is this use the equivalent of english "madly" (he id madly underrated)?

[final marlin]

Danke schön dafür

[tranquil flower]

https://m.dict.cc/deen/?s=Inhalt

Der Inhalt, die Inhalte.

[mellow nova]

https://www.duden.de/rechtschreibung/Gehalt_Substanz_Anteil_Wesen not the topic at hand.

[tranquil flower]

Entschuldigung, danke für die Korrektur.

[bold bronze]

So when someone says Apfelkuchen I think of a dessert I had often in Germany that was definitely more of a cake with pieces of apples in it or on it… but it seems like it can also be used for the American style apple pie… is there a different word for pies vs cakes? Dict.cc suggests Kuchen or Torte (which I understand to be more cakes of one layer or many layers, or cakes with no cream based fillings or cream based fillings)… Google searches suggest maybe just Die Pie… DeepL offers Kuchen or Torte but not Pie… is there a definitive ruling on American Apple Pie?

[fervent kernel]

Wer ist beste in deutsch auf diese server?

[mellow nova]

The closest thing would probably be 'gedeckter Apfelkuchen' which isn't exactly a pie but it is 2 layers of rather crumbly cake with the same apple filling between

I'm sure in larger cities you can find 'something'-style Apple Pie being sold in supermarkets (not sure if they would call it American since apple pie isn't American, but maybe)

there isn't really a german word for pie, as you mentioned they use the loan word die Pie

[bold bronze]

Sehr gut, danke @mellow nova

[long whale]

Since I know you're interested in the topic: Yup, I agree about "gedeckter Apfelkuchen" being pretty much the closest German equivalent of apple pie. Generally/ technically, pie would be "die Pastete" in German, although I guess we'd expect something with a different shape (not as flat as a pie).

[night dagger]

Apfelkuchen slaps

@long whale wenn etwas "slaps", ist es gut ;).

[hasty cobalt]

@long whale ist ein/e krasse/r

[whole portal]

Ich denke, die meisten Muttersprachler hier können ganz gut Deutsch.

[hasty cobalt]

Ja gut hust ich der ne || 5 || in deutsch hat

[whole portal]

Das hat ja nicht zwangsläufig mit der Sprachkenntnis zu tun.

[hasty cobalt]

[hasty cobalt]

solange man sich ausdrücken kann und verständigen kann reicht es eigentlich

[long meadow]

german classes are trash

[swift bough]

wym

[long meadow]

i dont know, german classes are just very boring

the topics are boring

[swift bough]

ah that's what you mean

Well for me as an English native it's the same with English classes

BOOOORING

[long meadow]

they just do the same shit for every class, no variety

yeahh

but i guess english classes are probably different in america since its for native speakers

i liked english class

when its ur own language its just kinda boring haha

[swift bough]

And I liked German class

yeah exactly

because it is not my first lang

[long meadow]

also learning all the grammar rules and stuff is very annoying because as a native speaker u just feel whats right,,

and writing super long essays every class T___T

[swift bough]

some people actually find grammar interesting though, otherwise we would never have language teachers again

[long meadow]

whenever my teacher would say the word "Zusammenfassung" or "Kurzgeschichte" i just instantly got depressed

[long meadow]

yeah idk

very difficult to memorize all that stuff

grammar in russian and japanese is very difficult too

there are soooo many exceptions that u have to memorize

[swift bough]

Well I mean when it comes to English grammar I don't know shit...but I know German grammar very well

[long meadow]

yeah exactly, u dont care for it because u dont have to know all the rules, u just FEEL whats right

but english grammar is much easier..... i think

since there is only "the"

too

[swift bough]

for me that kind of thing is satisfying though because when you master those kinds of things it's just satisfying since you used to struggle with it but now you don't

[long meadow]

yeah true

[final marlin]

Du bist eine gelangweilte Person D:

[swift bough]

tbh that is not the hardest part of German grammar

[long meadow]

is it all the cases?

[swift bough]

no

it is prepositions

Cases and grammatical gender are very black and white

you learn it once, you're done

prepositions have, as you were saying, TONS of exceptions

and also they are almost never 1-to-1 with prepositions in other languages, so yeah

[long meadow]

hmm i see

how long did it take u to get to C1?

[final marlin]

Yeah, there is only one fückin "the" 😤

[long meadow]

kinda funny that its all just "the"

[potent cloud]

I struggled a lot with learning all the differences between the tenses in English, the rules for what tense to use are definitely stricter in English than in German. And another thing that I remember being hard for me was phrasal verbs.

[final marlin]

Imagine having to learn Der Anime statt Anime 😤

[final marlin]

Phrasal verbs, idioms and all this stuff I think they are hard in every language. You need to get a feel for them or just get used to them. No other way around.
But I feel very lucky that almost all Nomen-Verb Verbindungen and proverbs in German makes a lot of sense in English as well.
Except maybe like "Es kommt darauf an". Weird it means "it depends".

[mellow nova]

well it doesn't really mean that we just don't have an english equivalent

so that's as close as you get

👍

[potent cloud]

I was helping a person in #questions . And they wanted to know how to say ''I ask my german friend if he likes **any ** german poets. I guess one would use irgendwelche to express that any? Do you have any better ideas?

(I helped them in dms btw, it got answered)

[long meadow]

u can say irgendwelche ofc

another word could be irgendeinen

that u could use instead

[potent cloud]

I came up with 'Ich frage meinen deutschen Freund, ob er irgendwelche deutschen Dichter mag.' I guess that's fine.

[long meadow]

yes thats fine

u could also say Poet

[swift bough]

@long meadow cases and grammatical are the stereotypically most difficult things because like all beginners struggle with that. And while I'm not saying that these things are "easy," I think they just aren't quite as annoying as prepositions are. Well I have been learning German for a little under 7 years but I think I got to B2-C1 way before then, probably around the 5-6 year mark.

The most difficult thing for me overall (so including grammar and everything else) was learning how to speak. I remember how difficult that used to be, my brain was just shitting itself the whole time trying to build the sentences spontaneously.

[upper ember]

Wie du sagst, sind die Geschlechter der Wörter etwas, das man einfach lernen muss. Es gibt keinen Ausweg. Das Schwierigste für mich ist jedoch die Verben, nämlich alle die Präfixe, die die Bedeutungen der Verben verändern. So etwas gibt es nicht in den romanischen Sprachen

[potent copper]

Can you say "ficker" in German in the same sense as "fucker" in English?

If not, what would the closest equivalent be?

[mellow nova]

https://www.dict.cc/?s=Fucker

[potent copper]

Thanks, but could I have a native weigh in on this?

[mellow nova]

you're asking at 5 AM

[potent copper]

Oh

Yeah

Well, there's a big German diaspora

[mellow nova]

🤷‍♂️ you can wait and ask again if you want

dict.cc doesn't just conjure words out of thin air though

[tranquil flower]

Maybe "der Wichser" (wanker) could convey a similar connotation, sometimes? -Not a native.

[novel jackal]

Have heard it being used, I still find it cringe to do that even in English, but yeah if you want to

[swift bough]

I've never personally heard a German actually use that word, it's not really part of their active vobab, though it is definitely a valid word. More common than that is probably "Mutterficker."

[swift bough]

Oh yes, this is 100% more common than Ficker, haha. I heard it quite a lot in Germany but never once did I hear "Ficker"

[novel jackal]

Yea, I've heard it in shows

But as I said

Very cringe

[swift bough]

Ficker sounds way more cringe in German than in English at least to me

[novel jackal]

Yeah 😂

[hasty cobalt]

Noone says Ficker

[swift bough]

Yeah, like I said, lived in Germany, never heard it once in my life

[hasty cobalt]

I was born here and never heard it once

[swift bough]

XD

[hasty cobalt]

but there is something like Fickfresse

[novel jackal]

Yeah, but in general you would only hear sth like Wichser when you listen to cringy teenage groups

My opinion

[hasty cobalt]

Im a teenager

[swift bough]

I have a video that disproves that

[hasty cobalt]

the most used word is hurensohn

[novel jackal]

Oh, no 😂 pls send

[swift bough]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJrVo0OOtAE

[novel jackal]

Yeah, it is rly uncommon and as I said, very special groups of teenagers

Just like in English

You won't be called a fucker unless you are with the types of people who are in such groups

[swift bough]

It isn't really a "teenager " only word in my experience in German

[novel jackal]

Well you see

[swift bough]

This video is really popular in Germany lmao

[novel jackal]

That's how you get beat up

[swift bough]

Not if you say it to your friend who clearly knows you're joking

[novel jackal]

Very nice of him to switch to formal speech there

I am sure that was the issue

[swift bough]

That's the funny thing

[novel jackal]

Yeah, ofc

[swift bough]

He did not care about being Called Wichser

[novel jackal]

Like anything

[swift bough]

he cares he got called du

[novel jackal]

Exactly!

That's what I picked up on too

[hasty cobalt]

✨Höflichkeitsform✨

[swift bough]

I'm assuming you already knew this video right @hasty cobalt

[hasty cobalt]

ye

i saw it once i think

[swift bough]

ah yes German memes

[tranquil flower]

I wouldn't say it, either. But kinda like it when used in shows. It just feels so on point with the scenes. I'm a beginner, though.

[novel jackal]

Ye, take your time

At the beginning everything is fun

[tranquil flower]

Oh, die "Honeymoon" Phase ist schon vorbei für mich/bei mir. Doch, immer noch Anfänger haha

[novel jackal]

Aww seit wanna lernst du?

[tranquil flower]

Einem Jahr, vielleicht.

Ungefähr

Ab und zu

Ich habe mich fast ganz auf passive Fähigkeiten fokussiert. Mein Problem.

[white dome]

Hello

I have a question

[fleet bridge]

What is the differences of abhängig and abhängen

[lethal nexus]

Why does geöffnet come in the end in this sentence:

Das café ist von sieben bis vier geöffnet

Can it be:

Das café ist geöffnet von sieben bis fier

[white dome]

If your first language is “English” is it easy to learn German?

[viral jolt]

abhängen means to depend. abhängig is an adjective, and it means dependent

[viral jolt]

it can't be the second sentence you suggested. geöffnet is at the end because in perfect sentences the verb is always at the end

[novel jackal]

Ah, also länger als ich

[lethal nexus]

Ok thanks

[novel jackal]

Und fier ist nicht vier

[viral jolt]

yeah it helps a lot. I've found multiple things in german pretty intuitive because I've grown up studying English. but an interesting thing that helped me the most actually is that i speak native Bengali. surprisingly, Bengali, Hindi, Urdu and similar languages probably have the same core root as german, so some things are really similar

[white dome]

Thanks man! I have always wanted to learn German but don’t know how to thank you❤️

[novel jackal]

Yeah, I would say not English

Except the vocab being similar in cases

[plain umbra]

I recommend to check out #getting-started , it has good advice for starting out.

[novel jackal]

But the word order and all the grammar is shit for English native speakers

And yeah, as Base said

A lot of good tips there

[lethal nexus]

I asked another person and he said this: “The first Verb of a sentence is second position and the others all get to the end of a sentence”

[viral jolt]

that's right but might be a bit misleading in case of perfect sentences

so the perfect form of a verb always has a "sein" or "haben" verb w/ it. Beispiel: fahren -> ist gefahren. öffnen -> hat geöffnet

in a sentence the sein or haben verb will always be at the second pos, and the past form of the verb (gefahren, geöffnet) will be at the end

in your first example you'll notice the verb "ist" is at the second position. this is the explanation

[lethal nexus]

in other words, linking verbs are always in the other position?

[viral jolt]

what's a linking verb

[lethal nexus]

are, is, etc

anyway, thats the most detailed explanation i got yet, thanks alot!

[viral jolt]

np

[fleet bridge]

@lethal nexus https://youtu.be/O-_cxHx5FD4

I highly suggest this channel

[lethal nexus]

Thanks! Ill check it out

[half bloom]

ich habe irgendwo gelest, dass geil "horny" bedeuten kann, stimmt das?

[half arch]

Ja

[half bloom]

in welchem Kontext?

kann man einfach "bin so geil heute..." sagen?

[light phoenix]

you should not say that with your female friends xD

[half arch]

Als adjektiv für eine Person bedeutet es meist "horny"

Als Adjektiv für einen Gegenstand/Zustand/Aktion kann es so etwas wie "großartig" heißen

[half bloom]

ja ich habe es am meistens wie das getroffen

[light phoenix]

it's really the context ^^
if you're calling a person "geil" it's a very high probability you are talking about their looks etc

[half arch]

But "Ich bin geil" would probably mean horny

[half bloom]

und "die Party war geil" würde die Party war spannend/toll bedeuten?

[half arch]

Ja

[half bloom]

verstehe ich

danke

[narrow pier]

hello guys , if this is correct , does it mean, by these, his health will be better ? ( Dieser die geht wird seine guttung), I am not sure about the ( die geht) cause you had to guess that from the audio

[long whale]

It doesn't make sense. 🤷

[narrow pier]

okay thanks

the answr was Diät ( i wanna bop my self )

[last bolt]

What does Zeitangabe mean

I looked it up in leo.org but couldnt really understand

[potent cloud]

Do you have context?

[long whale]

https://en.pons.com/translate/german-english/Zeitangabe

[potent cloud]

If you just saw it in a grammar book or sth, it means all the ways you can express time. (morgen, gestern, in der Nacht, übermorgen, etc.)

[edgy lotus]

Hi guys, is it correct to say "Was ist die Farbe von ihre Haare?"

or is it weird to say it like that ahahah

[long whale]

People would understand, but yes, it sounds weird. Also, it isn't correct, grammar-wise: von + Dativ (plural, here)

[edgy lotus]

oh yeah right

How would you say "What's the color of her hair"?

[long whale]

You know how to say "Which..? What kind of...?"

[edgy lotus]

I think is welche

*it's

[long whale]

That would be better than just "Was", yes. :)

[edgy lotus]

thank you very much :))

[long whale]

"Which hair colour does she have?" would be a good German question. ;)

[edgy lotus]

❤️

Welche Farbe hat ihre Haare?

or Welche Haarfarbe hat sie?

[novel jackal]

Wait, does that mean you can alternatively ask "Was für eine Haarfarbe hat sie?"

[long whale]

Sure, why not? :)

@novel jackal

[novel jackal]

Is it a bit unusual?

[half arch]

Nope

[long whale]

Not really... Why would you think so?

[novel jackal]

Just because in English, I would seldomly say what kind of hair color does she have

But I know English German are rarely1:1

[long whale]

True. But then, you'd never ask "How's your name?", either. ;)

[novel jackal]

True, what is your name and in German this simply doesn't work

What are you called rather

Was ist dein Name works

[long whale]

The usual is "Wie ist dein/Ihr Name?" I believe. :)

[novel jackal]

Oder wie heißt du

But I mean how are you called also works in English

[novel jackal]

So you would never use was with this?

[long whale]

Ugh... it feels ever so slightly impolite. But maybe that's just me. 🤷

[novel jackal]

Yeah, in tests I have heard "wie heißt du?" very often, in informal speech, in informal atmosphere I have heard people just ask was ist dein Name

So yeah, as you said, it might be more rude as in what is your name, ha?

Or who are you in English

[dusk crest]

ehy guys,I was wondering if the Complete German textbook is good to start out learning German(also if it is rich grammar-wise)

[novel jackal]

Yep, I use German grammar drills, but getting any good grammar book helps you improve your knowledge of German and gets you further

You can see it as, you can start out your learning without grammar, but in German the grammar comes up instantly in forms of gender of the nouns, cases and word order and unless you pick up on the reason, you will be very confused and frustrated

[long whale]

Apparently, it's not just me: https://www.quora.com/Is-it-correct-to-say-Wie-ist-dein-Name-Shouldnt-it-be-Was-ist-dein-Name?share=1

(mind you, those are just more opinions by individual people, so...)

[dusk crest]

so you’d recommend the German Complete textbook (for exercises and a bit of grammar) and German grammar drills (specifically for grammar)? Also,do you think having the book digitally is less effective than having the hard copy? I’m not sure which one I should get yet

[novel jackal]

Hahahhahha, I love how he pointed that out, yes this in English is indeed a special thing, you do ask what something is as if you don't know what the terminology of something is. Thanks, I won't be using that either.

[plain umbra]

Here are some free resources you can use to start out if you want: http://www.nthuleen.com/teach/grammar.html

[novel jackal]

Yes, as are many things, but no need to appear rude or unidiomatic

[novel jackal]

German grammar drills I use, and they have an explanation, after which you have exercises where they ask you to use the grammar they taught you

No, every book no matter the form is as affective

This solely depends on your preferred style of studying. Do yiu prefer holding a physical book and writinf down with your pen/pencil, or do you like usinf Word more

Completely your choice

[dusk crest]

Okk thank you so much,I’ll choose either German Complete or German grammar drills to start out and then I’ll buy the Hammer’s maybe to have a more detailed reference book

[plain umbra]

I wouldn't say that every book is equally effective. A book can have mistakes or poorly written exercises or weird explanations. I don't know of any for German but I'm sure at least one trash German book exists.

Just good to keep that in mind.

[novel jackal]

Oh, no I mean physical vs digital

Ofc some books are worse than others

[dusk crest]

he was referring to digital vs physical

[novel jackal]

No issue, at any point when you need something, just ask!

Also I buy my books off of mediomops

In case you need a site, they have everything very cheap

(used unfortunately, but cheap)

[dusk crest]

oh ok thanks

is the German grammar drills completely in German or also in english?

[novel jackal]

English

Even explanations are in English

So unfortunately after level B

This book is not useful anymore

[dusk crest]

okk perfect,once I reach B1/B2 I’ll buy another book anyway I think,thanks again 👌🏻

[novel jackal]

Yeah, it is a very long book

Circa 300pgs

So you will have your hands tied for a while

But they claim to have all the grammar in there, though I have to point out that some things they don't teach are how to use filler words and how to sound more idiomatic

[dusk crest]

right,I guess they have a more school-like and standardised method of teaching

[novel jackal]

So this should definitely not be your only source of German studying, you should also watch some podcasts and youtube videos, get some sprechen practice and Sprachgefühl

[potent cloud]

There is unfortunately no sure-fire way to teach someone about Modalpartikeln

[dusk crest]

yess sure,I’ve already started watching some Easy German videos on YT

[novel jackal]

Yeah, I know. I really wish there was one XD

[potent cloud]

You just have to listen to natives say them and copy their phrases/expressions

[novel jackal]

It is about getting the Sprachgefühl after a while

[novel jackal]

Good start, very good youtube channel, you can also try out Coffee Break German

It is free on google or any other browser

[dusk crest]

spotify also?

[wise pendant]

Do you want me to recommend you some German YTber?

[dusk crest]

sure

[novel jackal]

Yep, also on Spotify

But also there are youtubers who get themselves busy with German grammar

[final marlin]

[novel jackal]

However if you follow a good German grammar book, this rly isn't necessary

[wise pendant]

Some YouTube Channels I'd recommend for getting German Input:

_Cooking:
Pommes Män
BBQ aus Rheinhessen
Hensslers Schnelle Nummer
CALLEkocht - Grandma's Recipes
kein Stress kochen
AhmetKocht
Rosins Restaurants (Similar to Gordon Ramsay Hells Kitchen)

_Vlogs:
3thedward
KELLY //missesvlog
Malwanne
Rezo (Music)

• Renzo (Commentary)
  Mirellativegal (TV Show commentary)

_Miscellaneous:
Fynn Kliemann (DIY)
Die Ravennas Deutschrap (Music Analysis / Commentary)
SinansWoche (Weekly show with Sinan)
Tamara Wernli (Social commentary)
Doktorant (Social commentary)
Peter Frahm (Personality coaching, Social Commentary)
Simplicissimus (Video Essays)

• 2 bored guys (Video essays)
  Ultralativ (Video Essays)
  Marti Fischer (Music, Comedy)
  Open Mind (Drug based comedy)
  Held der Steine (Lego brick commentary, Set review)
  Der Held (Commentary, Talk)
  GreenRabbit (Psychology, philosophy)
  Marmeladenoma (Vlogs, Read alouds (eg. German fairy tales))
  World Wide Wohnzimmer (Talk Shows)
  Wilde Beuger & Solmecke (Attorney, Justice)
  Anwalt Jun (Attorney Justice)
  HYPERBOLE (Interviews)
  Glücksdetektiv (Self-Improvement, positivity coaching)
  Ehrenpflaume (Famous tv show host interviews youtubers)
  WildMics (Open Talks, Science communication, Podcasts)
  Sprechstunde mit Dr.Hegedüs (Medicine, Social, Education)
  Best of Bundestag (Compilations from the german parliaments)
  Whiskey.de (Whiskey centered content)
  Fritz Meineke (Outdoor Survival)
  Daniel Jung (Math education)

_For Beginners:
- targeted at learners
Easy German
Deutsch lernen mit der DW
Natürlich German
Natürlich Deutsch
- targeted at german kids
Willi wills wissen
Wissen macht Ah! Channel
Die Biene Maja
Woozle Goozle
Checker Tobi
Checker Chan
Checker Julian
Die Maus
Bibliothek der Sachgeschichten

_Gaming:
Behaind (Comedy)
Battle Bros
HandOfBlood (Comedy)
Gronkh
Sgt Rumpel
Sarazar
Zombey
Altf4Games (Reviews)
gametwo (Comedy)
Fire Bro (Comedy)
Rahmschnitzel
Sturmwaffel
Paluten
byStegi
BastiGHG
Maudado
MrMoreGame
Pietsmiet (Gameshows)
Senioren Zocken (Old people play games)
Hart aber Halbtrocken (formerly: Gameomat) (German Game Sins adaption) [Berlin dialect]

_Comedy/Sketches:
Varion
IBlali
YTitty (Permanently inactive)
Coldmirror
DerDrogg
Alexi Bexi
Browser Ballett
Space Frogs
RobBubble
Phil Laude

_German/Austrian TV broadcasting:
ZDF heute Show (Satirical news show)
NDR Doku (Various documentaries, slice of life)
NDR-Ratgeber (Miscellaneous)
TerraX Lesch und Co (Science)
TerraX Natur und Geschichte (Science documentary)
DW Deutsch (News)
ZDF Comedy
Extra 3 (Satirical news show)
Gute Nacht Österreich mit Peter Klien [Vienna dialect]

_Edutainment:
Cosmic Cortex (Podcast)
Wallulis
Dorfuchs (Math)
Doktor Whatson
MrWissen2Go (Politics, History)
techtastisch (DIY)
MaiLab
MalGli
Dr. Allwissend (Comedy)
Simplicissimus (Video essays)
TapaKapa Erklärt (Animation) [Austrian dialect]
Breaking Lab
Kurzgesagt - Dinge erklärt (Animated short videos)

[novel jackal]

You were not kidding

I think you should've said want me to recommend you all of German youtubers that exist on the platform

[wise pendant]

No its just the good ones

There are some more I didn't want to include

[novel jackal]

Well in any case, thank you, I will take this list as well and check it out

[dusk crest]

thanks!! that’s a lot of stuff 😂but definitely useful

[final marlin]

Don't worry he does that with every newcomer who asks for Ytube recommendations.

[dusk crest]

okk nice ahaha

[final marlin]

This suffering had started a long time ago

[dusk crest]

your name means “beautiful history” right?

[final marlin]

*story

[potent cloud]

Geschichte can mean history as in the school subject

[dusk crest]

👌🏻

[zinc raptor]

can anyone help me with a sentence

[potent cloud]

Just post your question here and someone will answer you

[zinc raptor]

Das Lied kritisiert Deutschland aber zieht auch gleichzeitig auch die liebe zum land. --> does this sentence makes sense..

i want to say like "the song criticize germany while also showing the love for the country... something like that...

[pure mountain]

Why it's "Jahre" and not "Jahren"?

[timid frost]

zieht = pulls

[zinc raptor]

what word can i use instead..?

[timid frost]

zeigt

[zinc raptor]

ahhh

thanks

[timid frost]

Land is noun

Das Land

[mellow nova]

Jahren is only in Daitv, plural nouns take an n in Dativ when possible

[pure mountain]

So Jahren exists?

Interesting.

For example: Du hast 20 jahren

[thorn zodiac]

I wrote:"Tony ist am ältesten Mann in der Welt"
but a native corrected it to" Tony ist der älteste Mann der Welt".

Can someone explain to me why? I thought if its the "biggest" one its am ******** everytime like am besten for ex

[mellow nova]

I told you: only in dativ

[potent cloud]

Yeah like, vor zwei Jahren, means two years ago, that's in Dativ. Dativ plural.

[pure mountain]

Am

[mellow nova]

You only use am + superlative when it stands alone

[pure mountain]

I still don't know what dative is

I don't remember.

That is the issue.

[thorn zodiac]

Ah thank you I think I see

[pure mountain]

It's a really confusing term

[mellow nova]

then you shouldn't be worried about plural declension

there are faqs for every case you can check out in the bot channel

[pure mountain]

Alright, thanks

[thorn zodiac]

can you provide an example? I tried doing "Tony ist am ältesten Mann" but apparently that is also wrong but I thought that also is alone

[mellow nova]

Ich bin am coolsten - I'm coolest

[potent cloud]

Tony ist am ältesten, oder Tony ist der älteste Mann, but with the second one you have to provide the oldest in what(like the family? the world?)

[thorn zodiac]

In the original text I did have in the world but I was trying to identify when am was used and wasnt but after searching for a resource and asking here, it seems it comes down to if a noun is being used kinda

[pure mountain]

Well, I think after reading all the dative faq.
I reached the conclusion that now I understand even less.

[potent cloud]

You can say then, Tony ist der älteste Mann der Welt, if you want to emphasize in the world, you know.

[potent cloud]

What exactly is it that you're struggling with?

[pure mountain]

Let me think.... Everything. Not kidding.

It's something that I have never used much.

But to be specific.

Probably, what does it actually mean?
Is there a simplistic explanation?

[thorn zodiac]

Im not the best at it but im pretty sure its mostly

1. If a prepositions or verb calls for it (like zu)(like helfen)
2. If somethings being indirectly affected (Ich gebe dir zu viel Liebe) (This was the one I made a mistake with and used dich instead)

[potent cloud]

There are some verbs that just call exclusively for Dativ, but that's a next lesson, I suppose.

[pure mountain]

Indirectly affected. Got it.

But it's still a really confusing term.

[thorn zodiac]

this too lol

[thorn zodiac]

sometimes you may need to revisit a grammar point, I thought I knew the adjective stuff but then made a mistake earlier and came to realise I didnt know when am was used in it

[pure mountain]

I bet, I'll look at dative examples from my main language. Then in English. And thus, in German.

[thorn zodiac]

Viel Glück mit ihm

[mellow nova]

there are none in english

we don't have dative

[pure mountain]

WAIT

That explains everything

I didn't remember using them.

[pure mountain]

Danke. 😎 👍

[undone verge]

step 1 of learning german: forget how to speak english

(more like step 5 but whatever)

[potent cloud]

Like, for real

[pure mountain]

Lmao. Genius.

Sometimes I want to forget the languages I know, just to see what they look like for people who don't speak 'em.

[undone verge]

I was just thinking about that today in class. I forgot what it was like to hear German without understanding it and I can't force myself back into the position where it sounds like gibberish 🥲 bittersweet.

on the other hand: my english is actually way worse from hearing Germans butcher it so much.

[mellow nova]

But the germans will insist that english is a super easy language and they're all fluent

[pure mountain]

Bittersweet gibberish, which Romans used to call it like:
"Barbarus" (Babbled)

[mellow nova]

the polish name for Germany is like 'can't speak/be understood' or smth like that

[pure mountain]

Yeah, literally translated to: speech mute

[undone verge]

shortly translated to: dumb

[pure mountain]

Dumb? Didn't know it also means "a muted person".

[pure mountain]

So polish people are calling German "dumbs"?

Curious, and hilarious.

Proto-Germanic languages were even more gibberish to be honest.

[obtuse valve]

Anstatt frühes Lernens, spiele ich mit meinem Rechner.

Is it a correct sentence?

[delicate tiger]

what do you want to say?

[obtuse valve]

Instead of learning early/earlier, i play with computer

[obtuse valve]

But use anstatt/statt

[delicate tiger]

"Heute morgen habe ich am Computer gespielt anstatt zu lernen."

[obtuse valve]

Can you do with Anstatt ohne zu und dass?

[obtuse valve]

Like as a Präposition

[night dagger]

statt lernen hab ich heute Morgen am Computer gespielt

[swift bough]

junge dieses Gefühl

[night dagger]

lol war nur für @obtuse valve. ich zocke wirklich nur RL auf PS4 ;)

[obtuse valve]

Do both „Was lautet..? and Wie lautet…?“ means same?

[last bolt]

In this sentence
Um 21 Uhr fing es an zu regnen
Why is an before zu regnen?
Prefix of separable words should go to the end of a sentence right?

[potent cloud]

the verb used is anfangen, it is seperable. Here it is in Präteritum (es fing an)

[last bolt]

Yeah i know

[potent cloud]

it is in the end, zu regnen is another clause. But because you don't have other elements than zu plus the infinitive, you don't need a comma. If you had something else like, stark zu regnen, you would need a comma

[mellow nova]

It goes at the end of a clause not a sentence

[mellow nova]

I don't actually think that's true

it wouldn't fit any of the Hammer's rules for comma placement t

[potent cloud]

I had a talk with Susana about this

I am sure

And I said the same thing

[last bolt]

Vielan Dank

[mellow nova]

🤷‍♂️

I don't see it here whatsoever

[potent cloud]

A comma is used.. so maybe in this case it is indeed not used, that's why you don't see it.

Lemme find it

[mellow nova]

well yeah that was my point

it's not supposed to be used

[potent cloud]

Wait what did I write 💀

[last bolt]

How do i say i spoke with someone on whatsapp
Über Whatsapp or
Auf Whatsapp or both

[mellow nova]

you said if it had stark it would need a comma

[mellow nova]

auf

[last bolt]

Is über wrong or auf just sounds better

[potent cloud]

You think it is just ''Es fing an stark zu regnen''

🤔

[mellow nova]

yes that is what hammer says

[mellow nova]

über is wrong

Wir sprechen gerade in Whatsapp

Heute haben wir auf Whatsapp gesprochen

[last bolt]

Ach so

Dankeschön

[potent cloud]

guess this is what I remembered.

[mellow nova]

That uses a comma bc it depends on a noun

(ii) in hammer

[potent cloud]

Yes, I remembered that it had to do with whether it had other things other than the infinitiv.

[mellow nova]

[potent cloud]

Checked duden as well

Vorsicht geboten ist allerdings, wenn solche Verben durch ein auf den Infinitiv verweisendes Wort ergänzt werden, in solchen Fällen ist ein Komma obligatorisch: Wir bitten darum, das Produkt bei Nichtgefallen zurückzusenden. Er glaubt fest an die Möglichkeit, sie mit seinen Argumenten überzeugen zu können

(deleted the other part as it was not really relevant to what we were saying)
anyways it is so late that it's early again, I should go to bed

[mellow nova]

gn!

[topaz bluff]

Im pretty happy with my vocab atm, what are good places I can leant how to use it

[final marlin]

Duolingo

[undone verge]

if you feel that your vocab is wide enough, you should start reading german texts/watching or listening to German content. That is how you will absorb when to use it. Or drilling some sentences while practicing grammar in grammar books. That is less 'fun' but effective at the beginning.

[topaz bluff]

Danke

Any reccomendations to watch?

[undone verge]

andre has like a mile long list of youtube channels

#questions-2 message
here 😄

[topaz bluff]

Awesome, i will have a listen while im at my meet tommorow

Vielen dank

[undone verge]

keine Ursache

[final marlin]

You posted it without asking him. 🥺🥺🥺

[undone verge]

hm?

I linked to his message

[final marlin]

Ja, aber er würde das immer selber machen. ☹️

[undone verge]

ja da haste recht. ist eine Tragödie.

[hardy zinc]

Is there a diff between "dank + Dat" and "dank + Gen"?

[swift bough]

nope, it's really just preference

[hardy zinc]

Ich habe eine Frage. Ich soll richtigen Relativpronomena setzen, aber ich verstehe die Satz nicht, hilf bitte.

Die Übungen, die (2) beim Yoga durchgeführt werden, erfordern eine Art Konzentration,
die (3) dazu verhilft, die Wirbelsäule zu strecken und all _____ (4) zugutekommt, _____ (5)
ihre Muskulatur stärken wollen

Mein Problem ist nommer 4. Was meint "die Wirbelsäule zu strecken und all _____ (4) zugutekommt"? Ich versuche zu verstehen, warum man Relativpronomena für nommer 4 braucht.
(und also, habe ich da die Fehler gemacht?)

[wise pendant]

For example "all denen" -> "all (of) those"

[hardy zinc]

Oh, I see. So "all those to benefit, which their muscles want to be strengthened", something like that? Sounds a bit broken but you get the point 😅

[long whale]

The construction required by the verb is "jemandem zugutekommen" -> Dativ ;)

[ruby ferry]

how would you say 'it says in the article'? my professor told us that 'sagt' doesn't really work because nothing is being 'said' so to speak, but I can't remember what she told us to use instead 😢

[undone verge]

es steht da im Artikel
es ist im Artikel zu finden
laut dem Artikel
dem Artikel zufolge
etc etc

[ruby ferry]

yes! thats perfect. thank you so much <3

[scarlet acorn]

Hallo Alle, ich habe eine Frage. Gibt es Unterschied zwischen

1. an die Uni gehen.
2. zur Uni gehen.
   Ich bin durcheinander

[half arch]

No, but "zur Uni gehen" sounds better to me

[scarlet acorn]

Dankeschön 🙂

[novel jackal]

I think both are correct, but mean different things

[novel jackal]

https://forum.wordreference.com/threads/an-die-zur-uni-gehen.1100259/#:~:text=berndf said%3A-,Ich würde sagen Er ist an der Uni aber er,gehen" und untersuche die Treffer.

I hope this helps you

[mellow nova]

@surreal jetty

[surreal jetty]

ty

[icy flax]

Was wird um 3m58s gesagt?
https://open.spotify.com/episode/5eGGGMYT2sdh2wL3u5enft?si=IdBoPFYtQe-LEUFKVETFKA&utm_source=copy-link

Wir machen the Solar system, the musical. Wir stellen einf alle Planeten vor, vllt so mit special appearence von Pluto, wo sich danach es aufstellt,(???) er ist gar keiner

[mellow nova]

um ein bisschen dramatisch reinzubringen

also er ist gar keiner not doch keiner I think

[night dagger]

und so ein bisschen Drammatik rein zubringen

[mellow nova]

ja dramatik

[night dagger]

ja, "um" meinte ich, nicht "und"

[icy flax]

Danke dir, kannst du das Fettgeschrieben veratehen, Delli?

[icy flax]

Habs bisschen umschrieben

[mellow nova]

idk it kinda sounds like "Wo sich er nachher auf- rausstellt"

[long whale]

... wo sich danach herausstellt - ?

[mellow nova]

but like I can't understand him

[long whale]

... wo sich danach aufst... (corrects himself) rausstellt, er ist gar keiner.

[icy flax]

und wie üblich steht das "rausstellen" für "herausstellen", nicht wahr?

Danke Euch beiden, @mellow nova und @long whale ❤️

[last bolt]

How can i say
I applied for the degree course in the University of Stuttgart
In german

Should i use sich beworben or just beworben

[thorny tapir]

beworben

[last bolt]

Um or für

[icy flax]

sich! You can use a translator to answer this yourself (:
https://www.deepl.com/de/translator#en/de/I applied for the degree course in the University of Stuttgart

[fervent kernel]

Ich habe mich bei der Universität Stuttgart beworben

I have applied at the university of Stuttgart

[last bolt]

I do use deepl but i wanted to know why or why not sich bewerben

[icy flax]

Because when you apply for something in German, you "apply someone (yourself) at a place" ~ "sich bei irgendwo bewerben"
...and there sadly wasn't a 1-rule to know it prior. Some verbs that are reflexive in a language are not in others.

[last bolt]

Ach so

Vielan Dank

[fervent kernel]

What does ich spile xylophone mit denn knochen deiner toten means somebody said that to me

[steel patrol]

DeepL is your friend.

Also it's spielen*, den*, Knochen*, and Toten*.

Welp, that format came out funny.

[mellow nova]

use \ before the *

with no space