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[pallid gyro]

@pastel pagoda schau mal hier: https://context.reverso.net/übersetzung/deutsch-englisch/nämlich

[pastel pagoda]

Also für mich persönlich hört sich "nämlich" in dem Fall eher schräg an

Aber es könnte auch an mir liegen

[pallid gyro]

given my level in german, I defer to you on this matter hehe

[wise pendant]

This "nämlich" here is correct and would be as you did, translated as indeed.
"As you suggest, the fishing material is (as I now explain to you) the reason why we pay so much"
The explanatory tone, that "nämlich" always adds, here becomes a confirmatory tone, as he's explaining to the other person what he already thought about in order to confirm it to him.

Thus it can be translated with indeed

[pallid gyro]

oh, thank you for the clarification! i was not sure at all either

[wise pendant]

And as "nämlich" only adds an explanatory tone it can be added almost always, without trouble. Which makes it very vertasile.

[fervent veldt]

Dankeschön Leute.

[wise pendant]

You might be interested in this @fervent veldt

Modalpartikel:

wohl - Vermutung

• Da hast du wohl recht. => I guess you're right.

ja - Bekannte Tatsache

• Wie du ja weißt, ist zu viel Zucker ungesund für dich. => As you already know, too much sugar is bad for you.

doch - Widerspruch

• Ich habe doch die ganz Zeit gewusst, dass ich Recht habe. => I always knew I was right.

mal/eben/ mal eben - Erhöhte Höflichkeit

• Kannst du da mal eben für mich nachfragen? => Could you please inquire that for me?

nämlich - Grund / Erklärung

• Die kaufen uns nämlich alles weg! => Because they are buying it all from us.

eigentlich - Unsichere Tatsache (Es wird ein "aber" danach erwartet)

• Sprachen lernen ist eigentlich ganz einfach. => It's actually quite easy to learn languages.

eben/halt/eben halt - Sichere Tatsache

• Die Welt ist eben/halt unfair. => The world is unfair, you know.

denn - Scheinbar unbekannte Sache
(Der Sprecher ist verwundert, das es nicht bekannt war)

• Willst du das denn gar nicht essen? => Don't you want to eat?

eh - Erwartung das etwas auf jeden Fall/ohne Frage passiert.

• Das hab ich eh nie verstanden. => I never understood that anyways.

ja/aber - Überraschung

• Das freut mich aber, dass du wieder gesund bist. => I'm glad to hear, you are back up again.

bloß/ja/nur - Warnung (Es wird ein "sonst" erwartet.)

• Hör bloß damit auf! Lass das ja sein! => Stop that!

ruhig/schon - Ermunterung

• Kopf hoch, das wird schon wieder! => Chin high, it's gonna get better.

vielleicht - Verärgerung (selten)

• Das ist vielleicht eine Zumutung. => That's an imposition!

[wise pendant]

Schau auch mal in #resources

Ich habe die Liste nämlich gerade ein bisschen ergänzt. 😀

[pallid gyro]

Sind Pflanze ein grammatikalisch geeignetes Objekt für das Verb "abtöten"?

Ich frage, da Duden stattdessen von Bacteria und Zellen spricht

(außerdem: sagt man hier einfach 'Duden' oder gibt es einen Artikel)?

[wise pendant]

1. Grammatikalisch ja, semantisch nicht
2. Der Duden

[pallid gyro]

@wise pendant Danke schön! Und Entschuldigung, können Sie bitte #1 ein wenig erläutern? Soweit es nicht mit dem Definition übereinstimmt?

[wise pendant]

Abtöten benutzt man halt nicht bei Pflanzen, auch wenn es rein grammatikalisch nicht falsch wäre.

[pallid gyro]

ach so ich verstehe, vielen Dank für die Hilfe!

[pallid gyro]

"Er bat uns inständig, unsere Strategie zu überdenken.", z.B., nach einem Schlag im Krieg. Kann man hier andere Wörter statt 'überdenken' benutzen, wenn wir 'to reconsider' meinen? Oder wäre das die übliche Übersetzung?

[wise pendant]

Die Übersetzung ist schon ok so

[pallid gyro]

super, nochmals Danke!!

[pallid gyro]

Gibt es idiomatische Ausdrücke, in denen speziell 'abändern' benutzt wird?

und nicht 'ändern' oder 'verändern'

[long whale]

Nothing occurs to me right now. It seems to me we use abändern (instead of ändern or verändern) when we want to emphasize how small the changes are. :)

[pallid gyro]

@long whale noted, thank you!

great, thanks for the tip!

[fervent kernel]

In what kind of situation is the verb "sein" used in it's infinitive form?

"ich muss pünktlich sein"

Why is sein in the infinitive?

Was ist dein E-mail: impolite

Wie ist Ihre E-Mail: politr

Richtig?

Wie can be used in place of was when you want to be more formal, right?

[serene wedge]

It is infinitive because it follows a modal verb, so verbs as in mussen, wollen, möchte

[fervent kernel]

Oh, it's the modal verb rule!

[serene wedge]

in english you for example say 'I like walking' , walking is infinitive here

[fervent kernel]

Right, right

I know this rule

[serene wedge]

and in german its the same, 'ich möchte laufen'

[fervent kernel]

I just didn't connect the dots

[fervent kernel]

Is that right?

[fervent kernel]

Thank U

[serene wedge]

I'll have to look into this, my German isn't that great either haha

[lime hemlock]

I think you can use wie and was in both situations

the formal one and informal

[fervent kernel]

When is wie used instead of was then?

[serene wedge]

Don't take what I say for facts, but what I think is that 'Wie ist deine E-mail' and 'was ist deine e-mail' is roughly the same and english doesn't really make a difference between them, so they both translate to 'what's your email'

but in Dutch we can say something similar, which is 'hoe luidt uw e-mail', it isn't actually used that much but its kinda like 'how is your email'

idk if this makes any sense but this is my theory

[lime hemlock]

I just found on the internet that you're probably right. Wie is more formal than was. https://www.quora.com/When-do-Germans-use-wie-instead-of-was-in-a-question

That's where i found it

[pallid gyro]

'Er hatte nichts unter Verbrechern verloren' wird als 'He had no business among criminals' oder 'He did not belong among criminals' übersetzt; bedeutet 'etw. unter etw. verlieren' also, 'to be involved with something'?

[night minnow]

I don't think so "etwas unter etwas verlieren" would mean "to lose something under something" or sth else that doesn't make really sense

[long whale]

"unter Leuten sein" = to be among people; "an einem Ort nichts verloren haben" = to not belong somewhere; to be in the wrong place. Does that help?

[olive sluice]

Hallo zusammen!

Gibt es ein Unterschied zwischen „Staugefahren“ und „Staurisiko“?

[noble yacht]

Ich würde sagen, dass "Staurisiko" nochmal 'dramatischer' ist als "Staugefahren". Der Unterschied ist aber nicht groß.

[long whale]

I'd say the main difference is that one word is plural, the other one is singular. Also, Staurisiko is far less common than Staugefahr. :)

[pallid gyro]

ah, that settles it. thank you!

[pallid gyro]

thanks!

[olive sluice]

@long whale @noble yacht Vielen Dank für deine Hilfe!

[onyx rain]

which is correct, ich habe mich früh aufgeweckt oder ich habe früh aufgeweckt?

[merry python]

Do you want to say: "I woke up early" or "I was woken up early"?

[onyx rain]

I was woken up early, more precisely, sth like "Das Geräusch war so laut, dass ich früh aufgeweckt habe." I wanted to know should I add a mich or is this construction correct?

[merry python]

I'd say it's "Ich wurde früh (auf)geweckt"

[merry python]

The first one would mean something like: "I woke me up early" and the second one would be "Ich bin früh aufgewacht", so translated "I woke up early"

[onyx rain]

Ah sein, change of state.

[merry python]

You could also use:

"Das Geräusch war so laut, dass ich früh aufgewacht bin."
"Das Geräusch war so laut, dass ich früh aufgeweckt wurde."
Would be correct as well.
There are many ways to express what you want to say~
But if you are woken up, it's "aufgeweckt werden" not "haben" (since it's passive)
And you can't use "mich" here, because you don't wake up yourself

[onyx rain]

Ok. Vielen Dank.

[vapid dew]

can anyone go on voicechat for 10 seconds and tell me how some German name's pronounced?

[sage tendon]

Check forvo.com 🙂

[vivid junco]

Which one is correct and why?
"Sie machten den Deckel auf den Kessel"
or
"Sie machten den Deckel auf dem Kessel"

[wise pendant]

*Deck__el__

"den" btw.

I guess it's because it's movement

[vivid junco]

thanks

[fervent kernel]

"Mitsen auf, mitsen ab" - hot der komendant geschrien. Un az ayner hot gefelt, iz men geschtanen a gantsen tog.

Does this mean anything in German?

mitsen or mizen

The letter they use is צ, which makes the sound "ts"

[wise pendant]

I'd guess it means "Mützen"

[fervent kernel]

Thanks! 🙂 I think that's it.
The orthography they use is pretty odd, tbh. They write it "mit-tsen", with the "T" and the "TS" one next to the other. My friend thought it was something like "mitsein".

But putting and taking hats on and off looks like the most probable context to me.

[pallid gyro]

@copper cedar critics doubt whether or not apple did that purely by their own will

and not to appease customers or something of the sort

aus freien Stücken is the expression here

https://de.wiktionary.org/wiki/dies

[wise pendant]

is that homework?

[pallid gyro]

"Die Soldaten beziehen das Lager." Does 'beziehen' here carry any sort of particular connotation? Would we expect the soldiers here to be at rest, to be alert, or anything of the sort?

[wise pendant]

It just means that they are there. Nothing else implied afaik

[pallid gyro]

noted, thank you!

[pallid gyro]

edit: figured it out

[languid hollow]

There was one question I’ve had on my mind for the past year about German: when do you put nicht after a verb and when do you put it at the end of the sentence?

[scenic drift]

https://yourdailygerman.com/position-nicht-german/ 🤔

[languid hollow]

I love how there’s a whole section for it. Danke!

[robust idol]

How would this sentence be translated?

I was going to born in Germany, but...

Ich wurde in Deutschland geboren sein, aber... - ?

/

[swift bough]

Ich wäre in Deutschland geboren worden

aber

@robust idol

[robust idol]

what verb tense is that?

Konjuktiv II ?

[swift bough]

Yes

I was going to be born in Germany = I would have been born in Germany, means the same thing

But I think the second English one is a bit closer to the German translation in a literal sense

Ok and also it just occurred to me you could also say „Ich sollte in Deutschland geboren werden“ which is more like „I was supposed to be born in Germany“

Which all of these basically mean the exact same thing anyway so

[steel patrol]

Was "worden" here supposed to change to "werden"?

[swift bough]

Nope

I mean wait

It wasn’t supposed to be worden at all, no

The reason it’s worden in the other ones is because you can’t have two participles directly next to each other in German

Because normally it’s „ich wäre geworden“

And since „geboren“ is also there, it changes to worden

[steel patrol]

Hmm, ok. What topic should I search for to practice this? It's related to the passive voice, isn't it?

[swift bough]

Yes

In it’s most simple Form, „du wirst geboren“ literally means „you are being birthed/being given birth to“

[steel patrol]

All right, thanks. I'm still a bit iffy with using or understanding the passive voice, even though I've tried to learn it properly multiple times already. I guess I'll revisit it again. :)

[swift bough]

There are actually two different passives

Vorgangspassiv is the one i just have an example of

[steel patrol]

And what's the other one?

[swift bough]

There is also Zustandspassiv

[steel patrol]

How are they used differently?

Or when

[swift bough]

A Vorgang is processual
A Zustand is describing the current state of something

Vorgangspassiv is when something is being perceived as undergoing another verb

Zustands- is describing the way that something already is

After a Vorgang is over, then you have a Zustand

Vorgangspassiv:
Die Tür wird geschlossen = the door is being closed
Zustandspassiv:
Die Tür ist jetzt geschlossen = the door is now closed

It’s about process (Vorgang) versus condition/state (Zustand) of something

[steel patrol]

I'll look into this more and hopefully get the hang of it once and for all later today (I'll just take a screenshot of this message for now though, if that's alright). Thank you so much for your efforts to explain it to me. 🙏
@swift bough

[swift bough]

That’s fine! Hopefully it makes some more sense now.

I’ve explained this numerous other times here before 😂

[robust idol]

Sorry if this question is a bit annoying, but why not Ich wäre in Deutschland geboren sein

[swift bough]

It’s not annoying. It’s because „wären“ already is the verb „sein“.

Except it’s in Konjunktiv II

Therefore you don’t need to say it twice

Also, theres no reason for it to be there

The helping verb „sein“ is already there for the verb „gebären“ (Gebären is the Infinitive, geboren is the participle).

Wäre is not directly translated as „would“

It means „would be“ or „were“.

[slim yew]

why isnt it “ich bin”

[plain umbra]

langweilig = boring
Ich bin langweilig. = I am boring.
Mir ist langweilig. = I'm bored. (Literally: It's boring to me.)

[hybrid meadow]

i’m not sure where to ask this. how do you all memorize the artikels?? like every time i see a word,i always have a hard time recalling its artikel

[scenic drift]

you need to memorize the word and its gender together. learn "das Buch = book", not "Buch = book"

[pastel pagoda]

There are some rules though that lie in the ending

for example, every word ending in "heit" and "keit" or "ung" is feminine

[restive chasm]

i am sorry for asking too many questions but in this sentence where do i add das

peter ist ein freund von james

[modest fractal]

you actually don't need it

[restive chasm]

exactly what i thought but the question is to organize the words and das is the only word left

[polar elk]

Anyone here who is doing bachelors in Germany? Or if you have a friend studying there, please tag them. I need sone help regarding application procedure of studienkolleg and language course.

[loud rampart]

Could it be: Das ist ein Freund von Peter James. (so first and family name?)

Or James Peter

[modest fractal]

No because Peter is a friend of James. Not a friend of Peter James

[scenic drift]

How about Das ist James, ein Freund von Peter

[scenic drift]

#archived-culture-study-visa :)

[loud rampart]

Yes, that must be it! haha

[fervent veldt]

When do we use decline an adjective as in "kurze Geschichten", and when do we add it to the word itself as in "Kurzegeschichten"? Zwar verwirrend.

[hollow ether]

When it's added to a word like that it's usually not declined

unfortunately I'm not sure if there's a rule for when you could do either

[pallid gyro]

Gibt es einen wesentlichen Unterschied zwischen "Sie hat den Kuchen in 12 Stücke auf/unter/ein/geteilt"?

[noble yacht]

In diesem Beispiele kannst du nur das letzte der 3 Beispiele verwenden;

Sie hat den Kuchen in 12 Stücke eingeteilt.

Um auf die anderen Beispiele zurück zu kommen:

Sie hat den Kuchen AUF 12 Stücke aufgeteilt.
Ist auch möglich.
Zwischen diesen beiden Formen gibt es kein Unterschied (in deinem Satz geht trotzdem nur das obere oder mein verändertes Beispiel!).
Mit "unter" ist in diesem Kontext keine 'sinnvolle' Lösung möglich.

[pallid gyro]

ohhhh, ich verstehe. Vielen Dank für die Antwort!

uhmm, kann ich auch 'geteilt' hier sagen?

[noble yacht]

Of course - like in this example?:

Sie hat den Kuchen in 12 Stücke geteilt.

[pallid gyro]

Ja! ach so, Danke nochmals!

[mellow nova]

Do the sentences
Du sah, was du sehen solltest
Du sah, was du zu sehen angewiesen wurdest
mean roughly the same thing?

[sage tendon]

du sah?

[pastel pagoda]

That second one sounds retarded

[autumn marsh]

sahst

[pastel pagoda]

also it has to be sahst

ye

[sterile vault]

The second one is overconplicated

[autumn marsh]

although that would basically never occur in spoken language that's why it sounds so weird

[mellow nova]

oop yeah

[autumn marsh]

"Du hast gesehen, was du sehen solltest"

[mellow nova]

well that's not very nice

[pastel pagoda]

The truth isn't always nice

All we can do is learn to live with it

[mellow nova]

I'm just trying to understand how to translate 'to be told to do smth'

bc there seems to be multiple

[pastel pagoda]

gesagt werden, etw zu tun

Mir wurde gesagt, ich müsse/solle mein Zimmer auf einmal putzen!

I was told I had to clean my room immediately

[sage tendon]

Pass

[sterile vault]

Miene Mutter hat mir gesagt, ich muss mit die Hunde spazieren gehen

[pastel pagoda]

mit die Hunde (it has to be "mit den Hunden")

[mellow nova]

I apologize, to clarify:
In specific constructions like the one I wrote
You x, what you were told to x; where x is a verb in past tense

You did what you were told to do
etc

[pastel pagoda]

Yeah but that changes depending on the words you want to use

[mellow nova]

ofc it does

[pastel pagoda]

There's not really much use in going so in-depth on that

[autumn marsh]

you'd only say that if someone else but your mother told her that she has to tell you that you have to walk the dog 😄

"Meine Mutter hat mir gesagt, ich muss mit den Hunden spazieren gehen"

if it's something your mother tells you to do, you'd say: "Meine Mutter hat gesagt, ich soll mit den Hunden spazieren gehen"

[sterile vault]

Ja, ist nicht ein gute Satz

[pastel pagoda]

kein guter Satz

[autumn marsh]

or well, it could also be that there's something that is outside of what your mother has control over

like, the dogs do have to take a leak so you have to take them out

[pallid gyro]

Kann 'They switched to the side of the enemy' mit allen folgender übersetzt werden? 'Sie sind auf die Seite des Feindes über(gegangen/gewechselt/gelauft)'

[wise pendant]

Ja, aber
*gelauf__en__

[pallid gyro]

super, Danke!

[steel patrol]

In the sentence "der Orangensaft war schlecht und hatte Bröckchen" does Bröckchen refer to the bits that come with naturally squeezed orange juice (rather than one made from concentrate), or is the person saying that there were little clumps inside that were the result of the juice having expired already? (So not something you would have expected to have in there if the product had still been in date.)

[fallow jewel]

to listen and to hear are both hören?

[sterile vault]

If I mean listen, like actually paying attention, I use zuhören

Hör mal zu! --> listen up!

[fallow jewel]

what about listen to music for example

?

[swift bough]

Can use hören or anhören but not entirely interchangeable

Sometimes though

[fallow jewel]

got it 👌

[fervent hollow]

Is the phrase "vielleicht fragst du mich, warum ich zur Bank gehen will." Grammatically correct? I figured that what came after the comma was the subordinating Claus

[swift bough]

Yes it’s fine

[fervent hollow]

Yesshhh

Thank you, kind sir

[fallen galleon]

mdnaskjhdasjkdhas

[ancient pulsar]

By myself. — Ich selbst.

the context is How do you learn german?

is that correct?

[golden ferry]

ich selbst - i myself. by myself would rather be translated alleine if im not mistaken

[noble yacht]

This is wrong in this context, you can't translate this 1:1.
A right solution is:

Wie lernst du Deutsch?

Alleine

You can use

Durch mich selbst
too, but I prefer the first one

[golden ferry]

^^

[fallow ledge]

Ich lerne Deutsch ganz allein(e)

[autumn marsh]

I'd assume the latter

[steel patrol]

Ok, brilliant. And how should I refer the bits that just naturally come with normal orange juice? (Like if someone were to ask if you buy yours smooth or with bits, what word would you use for that?)

[autumn marsh]

Fruchtfleisch

[steel patrol]

All right, thank you.

[cunning pecan]

Guys, I am doing my homework: "Muss die Kernenergie in Deutschland verzichtet werden"

Ich denke, dass die Kernenergie überall wegen einigen Faktoren verzichtet werden muss, aber nicht sofort.```

is it ok to write it overall for all countries?

or to write only for Deutschland

[hollow ether]

Yeah, i don't see a problem with it.

But as far as I know you need to use the preposition 'auf' with the verb 'verzichten'.
=> "auf Kernenergie verzichten"

[cunning pecan]

@hollow etherthanks ❤️

[deft swan]

Wie weiß ich wann ich den dem usw. benutzen soll oder auch ein/einen usw. dies ist eine von meine größten Problemen

Möglich auch einen Tipp für der/die/das wenn dies überhaupt gibt

[scenic drift]

Uhm, try ‘>faq gender’ in #botchannel

It’s about the gender of the noun and the case it’s in…

[sterile vault]

I can say, I will finally finish my degree (university)

Ich werde meine Diplom zu Schluss machen?

Fertigen?

[slim aspen]

no, In german you would say Ich kann endlich meinen Abschluss beenden

[wise pendant]

Abschluss

[hollow ether]

Diplom-Studium abschließen/absolvieren

Ich werde meinen Abschluss machen

[slim aspen]

ok danke

[slim aspen]

i would say endlich cz he said finally

[hollow ether]

Yea👍

[sterile vault]

This is the sentence I was trying to come up with

[slim aspen]

wdym?

[sterile vault]

Ich werde meine Abschluss endlich beenden

[slim aspen]

yes

you can say also that

[sterile vault]

Das wollte ich sagen, aber ich könnte die Wörter nicht finden

Danke

[slim aspen]

kein problem

[slim aspen]

kenn ich zu gut

[sterile vault]

Meine Professorin hat meine Sprachniveau as c1/c2 beschrieben, aber es passiert noch, dass ich einfache Sätze vergesse

[ancient pulsar]

thank you all

[autumn marsh]

Muss Deutschland auf ** die Kernenergie verzichten?
Ich denke, dass auf die Kernenergie überall wegen einigen einiger** Faktoren verzichtet werden muss, aber nicht sofort.

[cunning pecan]

Ja, Ich habe korrigiert.

[autumn marsh]

well, you can't find many "Komposita" (nouns made of several words) in the dictionary

but usually you can find the single words they're made from in the dictionary

so you have to take them apart, look up the individual words and then reconstruct the meaning

most of the time you should be able to figure out what it means, but ofc there are some words that carry more meaning than just their sum

for "Abizeugnis", it's the Zeugnis you get when you do your Abi (Abitur), but it could also be your Unizeugnis (Universität), Gesellenzeugnis (Geselle) or whatever else

[whole portal]

pension

its what you get when you retire

usually at least, there are a lot of different meanings to it

[sterile vault]

Gehen in die Rente = retire

[fervent hollow]

What does herunter really mean and what other variations of it exist?

[night dagger]

can always check a dictionary :)
https://www.duden.de/rechtschreibung/herunter

"runter" is colloquial for herunter btw

[slim aspen]

yes thats right

like movie is in fact the moving picture

[pastel pagoda]

It depends entirely on the sentence, in the sentence ||Ich hole mir einen herunter|| (NSFW), it doesn't necesarrily hold the same meaning as in others.

[fervent hollow]

Ok

[olive sluice]

Hallo zusammen!

Was bedeutet hier „so gut wie unbekannt“?

Arbeitslosigkeit ist bei unseren Absolventen so gut wie unbekannt.

[raven edge]

Bedeutet das, was es beschreibt

[scenic drift]

think of it as "virtually unknown", "practically non-existent"...

("Unemployment is practically non-existent among our graduates")

[olive sluice]

Danke dir! @scenic drift

[coarse sparrow]

"Dazu wird Musik erst als objektiv unwahre oder als Widerspruch ihrer eigenen Bestimmung zu ihrer Funktion"

what is the function of unwahre in this sentence?
is it like objektiv unwahre (something)?

[fervent kernel]

In addition, music is first seen as objectively untrue (or as a contradiction) of its own determination in its function

"Widerspruch" is a simily to "objektiv unwahre" in this sentence.

"oder als Widerspruch" is added to make the sentence more understandable, I think.
Correct me if I am wrong tho

[fervent veldt]

Was bedeutet "irgendein"?

[wise pendant]

any

[pastel pagoda]

"irgend" implies uncertainty or "randomness"

So you can put it together with many words like irgendwelche, irgendwer, irgendjemand...

[fervent veldt]

Any what though?

[wise pendant]

as "ein" is just the indefinite article you can use that for everything that takes ein as the indefinite article

for example: Irgendein Vorschlag - any idea

[ruby wedge]

Ein weiteres wichtiges Element der Fle-
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wie Pumpspeicherkraftwerke), für die im Jahr 2045 eine installierte Kapazität
zwischen 377 GWhel (Suffizienz) und 900 GWhel (Inakzeptanz) für die unter-
suchten Szenarien zur Verfügung steht.
Kann mir jemand sagen was mit Suffizienz und inakzeptanz gemeint ist, irgendwie macht das keinen sinn

[cunning pecan]

how to say in Deutsch: The only used Materials are these, which are needed for the Build.
Die einzigen notwendigen Stoffen sind diese für den Bau. ?

[wise pendant]

Suffizienz - ausreihender Wert
Inakzeptanz - nicht mehr ausreichender Wert

würde ich jetzt sagen

[ruby wedge]

ja hab ich auch gedacht aber inakzeptanz ist höher

[wise pendant]

Die einzigen notwendigen Stoffen sind die für den Bau benötigten.

[cunning pecan]

ah, 10q

[ruby wedge]

You could say Baustoffe which means building materials

[wise pendant]

Akzeptiert ab 377 und nicht mehr akzeptiert, wenn es 900 überschreitet hätte ich jetzt gesagt

[cunning pecan]

I am writing about green energy and etc. 😄

[ruby wedge]

same

[cunning pecan]

xD

[cunning pecan]

Es gibt nur einen Nachteil: Die Sicherheit. Die erneuerbaren Stoffen sind nicht genug sicher. Zum Beispiel ist es nicht immer windig und scheint das Sonne nur die Hälfte des Tages.

is the sentence Grammarly correct?

[scenic drift]

nicht genug sicher -> nicht sicher genug, imo.

[cunning pecan]

ok.

[scenic drift]

also, "und scheint das Sonne" -> "und die Sonne scheint"

i'm not sure if Sicherheit/sicher is the right word there, actually.

zuverlässig/Zuverlässigkeit feels more appropriate there

[cunning pecan]

оок

10q

[cunning pecan]

yeah, I checked the word it looks nice

a new word learnt 🤩

[edgy hemlock]

what are the differences between die Verordnung, die Regelung, die Vorschrift & die Regulation?

[autumn marsh]

also: "die erneuerbaren Stoffe sind nicht zuverlässig genug."

you might also want to say: "Es gibt nicht immer ausreichend Wind und auch die Sonne scheint nicht den ganzen Tag."

but i mean

oh well

[cunning pecan]

@autumn marshthanks

[loud rampart]

The simple answer is: all four mean "regulation"

[fervent kernel]

I have a question, how does one say "Curiousity killed the cat" in German? Is there an equivalent proverb?

[sage tendon]

Laut dict.cc: Neugier ist der Katze Tod

[fervent kernel]

it translates to something similar like "Die Neugier hat die Katze getötet"

[delicate tiger]

(both are just a literal translation, not something idiomatic)

[sage tendon]

There is also this one: "Neugierige Katzen verbrennen sich die Tatzen" @delicate tiger

But my Ausländer mind didn’t like it so I didn’t post

[raven edge]

Alle 3 sind gut und richtig

[edgy hemlock]

so we use them very interchangeably with insignificant difference? or, are there particular situations that make them different?

[noble yacht]

No, it depends on the context:

Verordnung ~ legal regulations (often long texts)
Regelung ~ regulations in a family/club
Vorschrift ~ legal regulations, but often short texts
Regulation ~ not used often

You can use everything, it depends on the context. But I would say you can orientate on this owerview in general

[noble yacht]

Der ist grammatikalisch falsch formuliert, ich verstehe ihn selbst nicht Hast du eine andere Version davon?

Aaah, okay. Maybe it makes sence if you replace "pro" by "Bei"

[frail heron]

Do it

[noble yacht]

Does it make sense for you now?

[frail heron]

Otherwise it doenst make muche sense

[noble yacht]

"A new study shows, how much tons of CO2 are needed for a death..."

I would say

[wise pendant]

I'd say it does make sense in the original version though 😅

[noble yacht]

oh, how?

[wise pendant]

A study shows, per how many tons on average one person is going to die ...

For example every 100 tons one person dies

[noble yacht]

This n on "wieviele" is weird i guess

but maybe im wrong

[wise pendant]

The answer might be "One person dies every/per 100 tons."
So the question the study answers is: "One person dies every/per how many tons."

Given a 100, If we have 200 tons until the end of the century two people will die

[jaunty monolith]

Welche Übersetzung für "drop-down box" wird eures Erachtens am häufigsten verwendet?

[wise pendant]

Ich verwende auf der Arbeit drop down menü

[fervent kernel]

im in german and im so confused

[wise pendant]

Yep

durchmerkeln probably means here like "going through things the same way Merkel did"

[delicate tiger]

(more specifically refraining from anything controversial until there is a strong majority consensus in the population)

[jaunty monolith]

Danke!

[fervent kernel]

Hey, question: so in a sentence like "i thought the bottle was empty", where we would use the past tense for "was empty" in English, even if we're talking about the present moment, we would use the present tense in German?

[night dagger]

you can use the past tense.

"... war leer"

[pastel pagoda]

Ich dachte, die Flasche wäre leer

[night dagger]

that would mean "i thought the bottle would be empty"

[pastel pagoda]

No, it means "I thought the bottle was empty"

or

hmm

Now that you say that I'm very unsure

[pastel pagoda]

DeepL seems to agree with me

[radiant comet]

Hi

[pastel pagoda]

hallöchen

[radiant comet]

I’m pretty sure that

[radiant comet]

This translates to wäre

[pastel pagoda]

Yay I'm not dumb

[night dagger]

shit i am

[radiant comet]

And this to wäre Leer gewesen

I’m not sure rn

[pastel pagoda]

Or - if you want to be adventurous - "Ich dachte, die Flasche würde leer sein"

Würde sein is a bit of a taboo but as I said, it's only for the adventurous

[radiant comet]

Yeah

[night dagger]

hmmm

[pastel pagoda]

If you're unsure just go with "würde... sein", it might sound a little meh but at least it always works

[night dagger]

i think that would be "i thought the bottle would have been empty"

I could be totally wrong, but the reason i disagree with DeepL and ya'll here is because when I think of "wäre", I think of "das wäre schön".

[radiant comet]

Yeah I just realised that

[night dagger]

Which translates to "That would be nice."

so idk

I could be totally wrong.

[pastel pagoda]

wäre gewesen and würde sein both have the same meaning though

and würde sein is 100 % the correct translation

[night dagger]

"Ich dachte, die Flasche war leer" sounds like "I thought the bottle was empty" to me.

[radiant comet]

Would is the only thing I am unsure about when talking English

[pastel pagoda]

To me it sounds like a war crime

Either use sei or wäre

[night dagger]

war crime? lol

[pastel pagoda]

das sprachliche Äquivalent eines Kriegsverbrechens

[night dagger]

interessant

[pastel pagoda]

eine, wenn man so möchte, Sprachvergewaltigung

[night dagger]

hab das nie gehört

[swift bough]

I don’t think anyone would use ‚sei‘ in that sentence though

Sounds best with wäre

[pastel pagoda]

Yes but I meant at least use a conjunctive form

[swift bough]

Because if you’re quoting yourself there isn’t a reason to use that

Yeah

[pastel pagoda]

If a set contains all sets, does it contain itself?

This sentence is false!

[swift bough]

Wym tho?
Wäre gewesen is past tense, würde sein is not

[pastel pagoda]

Yeah forget that

brainfart

[swift bough]

[radiant comet]

Where are you from, those are pretty advanced words lol

[pastel pagoda]

Sweden

[radiant comet]

Krank

[pastel pagoda]

ne, gesund

ok der war schlecht

sorry

[swift bough]

[radiant comet]

Ne komplett krank

[pastel pagoda]

Ich nehme das alles zurück. Ich bitte euch um Verzeihung, o ihr Hochwohlgeboren @radiant comet

[radiant comet]

Wie kann es sein dass du so gut deutsch sprichst?

[pastel pagoda]

tue ich doch nicht lol

aber freut mich, dass du mein Deutsch gut findest

[radiant comet]

Doch denke schon

[pastel pagoda]

[radiant comet]

Wenn ich nicht wüsste, dass du nicht native bist, hätte ich es nicht gedacht

[pastel pagoda]

[swift bough]

Dürfen Ausländer Deutsch eigentlich nicht gut können?

[pastel pagoda]

Ne ist nur für die Deutschen

[radiant comet]

? xd

[radiant comet]

Ja man!!!

Nein aber fr wirklich echt gut

Ist Level C das höchste Sprachlevel?

[pastel pagoda]

Das Niveau an sich ist in zwei Nebenniveaus aufgeteilt. C1 und C2

aber im Grunde ja

[radiant comet]

Ahh

Also hast du das höchste Level?

[pastel pagoda]

keine blasse Ahnung

hab keinen Test gemacht

[radiant comet]

Ahh ok

[radiant comet]

So sagt man das nicht, man sagt nur Keinen blassen Schimmer oder Keine Ahnung

[radiant comet]

lol

[pastel pagoda]

alles klar

ich habs halt irgendwo gehört aber kann sein dass es nicht so häufig gesagt wird

[swift bough]

keinen blassen Plan

[radiant comet]

Sicher nicht von einem native

Denke ich

[pastel pagoda]

doch doch

Aber nach ein bisschen Recherche hat es sich herausgestellt, dass der Ausdruck nicht so häufig ist

[radiant comet]

ja ok

[pastel pagoda]

Also es gibt ihn schon:

Aber:

[radiant comet]

Yeah

Me right there

[pastel pagoda]

😅

[night dagger]

@merry python @radiant comet @swift bough @fervent kernel FWIW, i asked a qualified german teacher and she said either "wäre" or "war" would be correct for that translation

“Ich dachte, die Flasche war leer" - wenn ich eine Geschichte in der Vergangenheit erzähle.
"Ich dachte, die Flasche wäre leer" - entweder in der Vergangenheit oder jetzt.

[radiant comet]

Ja perfekt

Man lernt nie aus

[fervent kernel]

ahh okayy

[swift bough]

I‘m just used to using wäre for it

[fervent kernel]

"wäre" was actually tumbling around in my brain but i thought that was like "would"

like "would be empty"

[night dagger]

Aber im Alltag benutzt man den Konjunktiv nicht so oft

[fervent kernel]

but that's just me and my horrendous knowledge of grammar

[swift bough]

Was that a General statement or just for that example because you use Konj a lot im Alltag

[night dagger]

probably for that example

idk, that's what she said lol

[swift bough]

Is she native

[night dagger]

yep

comes from Stuttgart

licensed german teacher

[swift bough]

I’m not discrediting that but I feel like I personally heard it somewhat often in Germany

But actually it was like a mix of both of those too

[night dagger]

whatever's clever. just thought i would share the response from a german (native) teacher who lives in germany :)

[swift bough]

And also I speak with Germans still, who use the Konj in that construction

[night dagger]

yeah, it's hard to make blanket statements like that

[swift bough]

Sometimes you don’t think you do something, when you actually do it a lot

It has happened to me before

With realizations about how I actually speak English

[night dagger]

right

i don't know anything about english grammar so 🤷 lol

[swift bough]

It just happened to me right now, I think

[neat estuary]

That’s not true. The subjunctive is used all the time.

If that were true, how would one express counterfactuals, hearsay, desires, polite desires, etc?

Haha I just used it

[fallow ledge]

Maybe she mean K1 🤷‍♀️

[night dagger]

probably true

i asked another native as well and they said "war" fits better. but it's a sentence without much context and the german teacher already provided us with uses for both :)

[proven sphinx]

"Ich dachte, die Flasche sei leer" is the most correct version, but it isn't commonly heard in casual speech.

[night dagger]

sure, but colloquially one is likely going to hear „ich dachte, die Flasche war leer“ when asking a native „hey, how would you say „I thought the bottle was empty“.

[swift bough]

The context does have an effect on it for sure

I just think it’s more common than she makes it out to be

[brazen gulch]

I just had this argument in the English server and apparently that's not true. Even the teachers there were saying it's rarely used outside of formal speech these days. Tbh I'm still of the same opinion as you tho

[neat estuary]

Just because modern speech forms the subjunctive with “would/should + infinitive verb” doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist

[brazen gulch]

I completely agree, but I was arguing that it was wrong to not use the subjunctive

I'm not sure if that's the same thing you're arguing tho

[neat estuary]

Are you referring to the morphological subjunctive, as in “If I were the king, I would change the law”

[brazen gulch]

Yes

The example given in the server was "if I was taller"

[neat estuary]

I think that’s a British thing

Americans still use the morphological subjunctive

[brazen gulch]

Well I argued that was is incorrect but now you have me thinking lol

[neat estuary]

I would always say “if I were taller”

[brazen gulch]

Exactly

[neat estuary]

Are you American?

[brazen gulch]

Ye

[neat estuary]

Maybe all the teachers are British. The Germans speak like us: “wenn ich größer wäre…”

[brazen gulch]

Ye exactly, which sounds proper to me, but actually the teachers were American

[neat estuary]

Damn, that’s strange. Maybe it varies by which part of the country you come from?

[brazen gulch]

Maybe, I have no idea

But to me it will forever sound incorrect to say "if I was..."

In that sense

[neat estuary]

We should probably move before we get booted from this channel

[pallid gyro]

Benutzt man 'vergelten', wenn es um Geld geht?

Oder eher 'zurückzahlen'? Oder beide?

[swift bough]

Saying „if I was this or that“ is not British

Americans say it too

I’m Americans and you still hear „if I were“ as well but sadly not as often.

I think it sounds wrong too to use was in that context, but it certainly doesn’t sound unnatural, because so many people do speak like that, it’s become normal.

[swift bough]

Also a no.

[shut briar]

"Das war unsere Küchenuhr", Sagte er sie alle der Reihe nach an, die auf der Bank in der Sonne saßen

This is from a story i'm reading

I'm confused by it a bit.

Sagte an is announced

sie is perhaps what he's saying? But why sie

Alle der Reihe nach i don't get at all

[whole portal]

What

What are you reading

Maybe with context you can make the sentence work but it's certainly very weird

[shut briar]

Es ist eine Kurzgeschichte von Wolfgang Borchert

Ich habe die in Resources geteilt

[whole portal]

@shut briar yea that doesnt work, idk why Borchert wrote it like that

Nachkriegsliteratur is relatively recent so I dont think its a symptom of old age

[shut briar]

Könntest du auch sehen, was tellerweiße hier meint

Ist das dir auch komisch?

[scenic drift]

i think i recognize this passage from germna class

[whole portal]

He just tells them all I guess

[scenic drift]

tellerweiße just means "white as a plate" 🤔

[scenic drift]

shouldn't this be "sagte er und sah sie alle der Reihe nach an"

i think the original source you have may be missing some words 😅

[shut briar]

Ohhhh

Ja ich hatte das Gefühl dass etwas fehlt

[shut briar]

What's sie here referring to?

[scenic drift]

"them"

http://www.alexander-kandt.de/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/0dca0b2503464be96d1189105f8b6c06-1.pdf here's one that looks more complete

[shut briar]

He looked at them ....

Oh der Reihe nach ist ein fester Ausdruck

Alles klar, ich verstehe jetzt, also dann die Übersetzung werde "He looked at them in turn" sein

[barren marsh]

Whats the difference between "Wie lautet" and "Was ist" and how do you use those two phrases

[scenic drift]

How should I interpret this out of office message? Will the person get back to me once they get back from holiday, or should I forward my email to the people they give?

(It’s a question about a job that closes in 5 days)

[fallow ledge]

I think forward

[wise pendant]

Id also say so

[scenic drift]

i shall do that, thanks folks

[whole karma]

Hi everyone, what's the difference between glatt and weich ?

And if i were to say soft hair which one is better ?

[quaint canyon]

weich

[whole karma]

So "Weiche Harre" ?

[quaint canyon]

weich: not hard, its soft. curly hair can be soft too glatt: its not curly it's like in the picture

[quaint canyon]

yes

[whole karma]

Ach so ! Danke sehr

[scenic drift]

ok, follow-up question, who the hell do i email 😆 it's a junior position, so maybe the Nachwuchskräfte person... but it's also a question about recruiting, so maybe the general recruiting email...

i think i might go for the general recruiting one? seems most likely to get an answer given everyone's likely on holiday rn

unless it's a holiday in NRW in general today?

[wise pendant]

I'd also say so

[scenic drift]

ok, time to write an email in german... not done that in a while 😓

[nocturne plank]

To be honest, I would choose the Last one. It is for questions and concerns about „Nachwuchskräfte“ which translates to Junior staff.

[frail heron]

Wasserbüffel freund also

[junior flame]

"Die Befugnisse der Kantone gehen deutlich über die der Gliedstaaten in anderen föderalen Demokratien." Why "über die der" is written here, what does it mean?

[scenic drift]

"über die [Befugnisse] der Gliedstaaten"

[junior flame]

Dankeschön

"Der Bundesrat setzt sich aus sieben gleichberechtigten Mitgliedern zusammen, die je eins der Departements der Bundesverwaltung leiten" (What does "die je eins" mean here?)

[scenic drift]

"...seven members of equal rank, each of whom shall lead one of the departments..."
word for word it would be "who (die) each (je) one (eins) of the departments..."

[vapid cradle]

Wann verwenden wir "keins / keines", wenn wir ein Satz negieren wollen? Was ist der unterschied zwischen kein und keins ?

[junior flame]

and even if we are adding je (which implies each) we will use the verb leiten instead of leitet?

[scenic drift]

mm, i'd say it's leiten because you have the "die", which is plural

[junior flame]

Okay thanks a lot buddy

[nocturne plank]

Der Unterschied besteht in der Deklination

"Keins" und "keines" sind an sich gleich zu setzten. "Keins" sagt man jedoch in der Umgangssprache und "keines" ist formell.

[vapid cradle]

Okay danke schön

[nocturne plank]

Wären Beispielsätze mit kein/keines/keinem/keinen für dich sinnvoll?

[vapid cradle]

Ja, bitte

[quaint canyon]

"Ist noch Bier da? -Ich habe leider kein Bier mehr "Ist noch Bier da? -Ich habe leider keins mehr da

[nocturne plank]

Maskulin:

Nominativ: "Ich bin kein Mann." (Das Fragewort für den Nominativ "Wer/Was", trifft in diesem Fall auf den"Mann" zu. Was bist du nicht? Ein Mann.)
Genitiv: "Ich bin keines bösen Gedankens fähig." (Das Fragewort für den Genitiv "Wessen", trifft in diesem Fall auf den "bösen Gedanken" zu. Wessen bist du dir nicht fähig? Des bösen Gedankens.)
Dativ: "Das wurde in keinem Bericht erwähnt." (Das Fragewort für den Dativ "Wem", trifft in diesem Fall auf den "Bericht" zu. In wem wurde es nicht erwähnt? In dem Bericht.)
Akkusativ: "Ich habe keinen Zweifel." (Das Fragewort für den Akkusativ "Wen/Was", trfft in diesem Fall auf den "Zweifel" zu. Wen hast du nicht? Den Zweifel.)

[wispy bolt]

hallo.

how to say "i did not understand, please tell me".

[nocturne plank]

Depends on the context but you could say "Ich habe es nicht verstanden. Kannst du es nochmal sagen?" that would be more of a "I did not understand it. Can you say it again?" when there was something you didn't understand by content or acoustics.

[wispy bolt]

no.

"can you say the meaning"

[nocturne plank]

"Kannst du (mir) die Bedeutung sagen?"

[sudden rover]

Ich habe dich nicht verstanden. Könntest du es mir erklären? (I did not understand you. Could you explain it to me?)

[nocturne plank]

No? Was that the wrong context I put it in?

[wispy bolt]

yes.

[nocturne plank]

What context shoul I put it in? If you translate "i did not understand, please tell me" literally to german it would sound weird.

[wispy bolt]

my bad.

i mean.

"i did no understand, please tell me the meaning"

[nocturne plank]

"Ich habe es nicht verstanden, kannst du mir sagen, was das bedeutet?" alternatively if you could also say "Ich habe es nicht verstanden, kannst du mir sagen, was du meinst?"

[wispy bolt]

i see.

thank you so much.

[nocturne plank]

No problem!

[whole karma]

Hi

What does Geldschein mean ?

[raven edge]

Money

[obsidian forge]

Money, as in paper

[raven edge]

Yep

[obsidian forge]

A dollar bill

[raven edge]

Like a 10 Dollar Bill

yes

[floral spire]

Ich möchte um ein Neu Minecraft world zu schaffen

[obsidian forge]

Hm?

[whole karma]

Ah ok, thanks guys !

[floral spire]

Ist das Richtig

[obsidian forge]

Yw

[obsidian forge]

What are you trying to say?

[floral spire]

I want to create a new minecraft world

[obsidian forge]

Itd be „Ich möchte eine neue Minecraft World erschaffen“

The um isnt needed

Because you dont use the „to“ in that way

[floral spire]

Idk when to say um ... zu

and when to not

I try to think english

sometimes it is just zu

sometimes it is um zu

sometimes neither

[near folio]

want to in English is misleading because it's two words, but that's how infinitives are constructed in English. You can think of it as a singular word.

[obsidian forge]

https://learngerman.dw.com/en/final-clauses-um-zu/l-38260879/gr-39391118 try this

[floral spire]

So for example

Ich versuche um mein Deutsch zu verbessern

wrong?

[near folio]

@floral spire Ist Englisch deine Muttersprache?

[floral spire]

Ja

[near folio]

um ... zu = in order to. It's a subclause indicating the end result of the main clause, e.g. I am learning German, in order to steal German jobs.

[floral spire]

lol

so how do u say

I try to improve my german

Ich versuche mein Deutsch zu verbessern?,

[obsidian forge]

Yes

Thats right

[near folio]

Ich versuche requires what's called an Infinitivsatz. You use it as the object of the main verb.

You only ever need um .. zu together when talking about end results. ||und ein paar andere Dinge, aber sie sind gerade nicht wichtig.||

[floral spire]

Ich versuche mein Deutsch zu verbessern, um in Bundesliga Fußball zu spielen

richtig?

Jetzt versteche Ich

danke

Und, wie kannst du sagen "I understand now"?

Nicht "Now I understand"

Ich versteche jetzt

oder

Ich jetzt versteche

I always mix them up

[obsidian forge]

Ich verstehe jetzt

[near folio]

Das Verb steht immer an der zweiten Stelle in einem Hauptsatz.

[obsidian forge]

Jetzt verstehe ich sounds better

[night dagger]

depends on where you want the emphasis of the sentence, but yeah, i do find myself saying "jetzt verstehe ich" more often than "ich verstehe jetzt".

[floral spire]

Leute nutzen Technologie sehr häufig. Ich benutze auch Technologie. Zum Beispiel, mit die Applikation "Duolingo", Ich versuche mein Deutsch zu verbessern, um in Bundesliga Fußball zu spielen. Ich habe gehört dass du Rätschlage über Technologie brauchst. Technologie hat viele vorteile, aber es hat auch viele nachteile. Du musst nicht Süchtig sein. Die Überkonsum von Technologie ist sehr shädlich. Ich war Süchtig, aber, jetzt bin Ich nicht. Das Handy gefällt mir, weil Ich das Handy überall benutzen kann.

Wie?

[night dagger]

meine Empfehlung: du solltest dich selbst ermächtigen - du solltest also DeepL und ein Wörterbuch benutzen. ich würde wohl einen Satz nach dem anderen überprüfen.
zB:

• Leute nutzen Technologie sehr häufig. ✅
• Ich auch benutze Technologie. ❌ ---> Ich benutze auch Technologie. ✅

[floral spire]

Ich benutze DeepL

Leute haben mir gesagt dass Ich muss "auch" after "benutze" benutzen.

[night dagger]

DeepL hat "Ich auch benutze Technologie." gegeben?

[floral spire]

Nein, Ich habe das Text geschreibt

[night dagger]

verstehst du den Grund warum?

[floral spire]

ja

[night dagger]

nächster Satz: "Zum Beispiel, mit die Applikation "Duolingo", Ich versuche mein Deutsch zu verbessern, um in Bundesliga Fußball zu spielen."

dieser Satz ist ein bisschen komplizierter, aber ich glaub, du schaffst das :)

[floral spire]

uh

is that supposed to mean

that that sentence is right

or not

[night dagger]

willst du Deutsch lernen?

[floral spire]

that text is for the sake of context

I'm not a football player or smt

if u mean that

[floral spire]

ye

[night dagger]

ok, wie gesagt: du solltest dich selbst ermächtigen. benutze einfach DeepL und ein Wörterbuch.

[floral spire]

k but

[floral spire]

why did u say this

is there anything wrong

Zum Beispiel, mit die Applikation "Duolingo", Ich versuche mein Deutsch zu verbessern, um in Bundesliga Fußball zu spielen.

with this

[pallid gyro]

Sagt man 'Sein Vermögen wird auf seinen Sohn übergehen', oder 'zu seinem Sohn übergehen'?

[autumn marsh]

eher: auf

[pallid gyro]

@autumn marsh Vielen Dank!!

can 'the people', as in, 'the people of Afghanistan', or 'the politicians don't have the interest of the people at heart', or, 'it is now the time for a government that will be run by the people' be translated by both 'das Volk' and 'die Leute', or only by the former?

[spark mesa]

"das Volk" would be way better as "die Leute". But you can also say "die Einwohner" (resident)

[pallid gyro]

noted, thank you again!

[gaunt smelt]

Hey guys which one do you think its right "Sie müssen sich die Hausarbeit teilen, damit die Gleichberechtigung gewährleistet ist" or "Sie müssen sich die Hausarbeit teilen, damit die Gleichberechtigung gewährleistet wird"

[crystal fractal]

I dont know, it basicaly means the same, but the second one sounds better(im german)

[gaunt smelt]

Oh ok, it's a bit tricky between these two but thx anyway

[fervent kernel]

Is it "ich erinnere" or "ich erinnere mich"?

[steel patrol]

Ich erinnere mich (an etwas)

It's a reflexive verb

Wir erinnern uns, er erinnert sich, etc.

[fervent kernel]

I feels like i heard someone say it without the pronoun once, is it maybe said like that colloquially sometimes (or did i hear it wrong)

[steel patrol]

Sorry, I can't tell you whether or not it's used like that colloquially, I don't know. But to my knowledge this is the proper way to use it.

[fervent kernel]

Ah alright, ty anyway

[steel patrol]

No worries.

[glass hawk]

(sorry, replied to wrong comment, but nevertheless)
IIRC, ‘erinnern’ can mean ‘to remember’ or ‘to remind’; one sense takes the reflexive usage, and the other does not.
‘Er erinnert sich an den Termin’—‘He remembers the appointment’
‘Er erinnert mich an den Termin’—‘He reminds me of the appointment’
@steel patrol

[autumn marsh]

either wrong or in a Poem, like:

"Erinnere der Gefallenen und ihrer Dienste dem Vaterlande" or something like that, although "Gedenke" would be more appropriate then.

[autumn marsh]

that is correct, however the pronoun always has to be present (unless in a poem etc.)

[steel patrol]

That's a helpful note, but in your second example there's still a personal pronoun in AKK (even if it's not technically a reflexive pronoun, I guess), and I think the person originally asking the question was saying that they heard "erinnern" used without a pronoun at all?

[fervent kernel]

So ich erinnere mich - i remember, ich erinnere dich - i remind you

[glass hawk]

Yeah, I replied to the wrong comment, meant to reply to the one asking about ‘ich erinnere’ vs ‘ich erinnere mich’, not about a lack of a pronoun >_<

[fervent kernel]

And what about "you remind me of that girl" or smtng like that, how would you say that

[steel patrol]

Ah ok

[granite zealot]

Du erinnerst mich an das Mädchen

[fervent kernel]

Sorry, one more q - what would be the differences between grob, unhöflich and unverschämt?

Can I use schieße drauf the way I use schieße egal?

Like fuck that or fuck what he thinks

[autumn marsh]

schießen = shoot

scheissen = shit

but apart from that, yes

[autumn marsh]

well, there are some nuances to it.

Unverschämt = really inpolite
unhöflich = inpolite
grob = borderline inpolite, maybe inpolite but maybe without the intention to be inpolite, might just be that someone is short on time and therefore does not take the time to explain themself

[fervent kernel]

Interesting, tyvm

[wise pendant]

"scheiß drauf" is more of a separate expression whereas "scheiß egal" can be used as part of a sentence "was die anderen machen ist mir scheiß egal" as it is just a stronger version of "egal"

[fervent kernel]

For example "pass auf, dein Vater kommt vorbei" ja,und? Scheiß drauf"

[wise pendant]

Yep, exactly

[scenic drift]

please don't post the same question in both channels!

[slim aspen]

but grob can mean a lot of stuff...

like rough

but rn no words come in my mind

but when you wanna use rough, you use it with estimates and explanations

ok now words leap more into my mind like coarse (only for manners), or for lying---grobe Lüge-- terrible/big/dumb lie

sorry for ping but you asked for it and I corrected the first answer @fervent kernel

[fervent kernel]

Thankss that helps

[slim aspen]

np at all

[main coral]

wie sagt man that is so?

[hollow ether]

?

How about an example sentence or with context

[obsidian forge]

Wdym

Yea

[main coral]

this is an example

''That is so funny''

like that

[mellow nova]

das ist so lustig

for small sentences like this you can use deepl.com, it's a good translator

[main coral]

alr

danke

[fervent kernel]

hey, what did the older lady say at 8:02?
https://youtu.be/W2h5XK791Z4?t=482

ich gehe jetzt andersweitig?

[mellow nova]

wtf americans can't watch it

[fervent kernel]

oop

how come

[mellow nova]

It just says it wasn't made available in my country

[fervent kernel]

use vpn kek

[fervent kernel]

"Ist das nicht das Land von Alexander der Grosse?"

Is it correctly conjugated here?

Dankeschön!

[whole portal]

its inaudible, they are talking over each other

why are you watching dome tho lmao

[feral rivet]

"Ich geh jetzt. Keh/heh (???) geh an die Seite ich/ick muss da durch, man. Schüss" That's what I'm hearing

[wise pendant]

A slight addition to @feral rivet
"Ich geh jetzt. Bitte geh an die Seite, ich muss da durch, man. Tschüss"

[feral rivet]

interesting, I can't identify that sound as a "bitte" haha, for me that's more of a "hmpf" sound with no meaning, if that makes sense

[swift bough]

Isn’t it supposed to be „Mann“? Because „man“ means „one/you“. When you use „man“ like that in English, it doesn’t mean one/you, it actually means Mann.

I think that’s such a common mistake Germans make, I mean I would consider it a mistake 🤔

[wise pendant]

man is almost always written like this afaik

The expression of frustration that is

[swift bough]

That doesn’t mean it’s correct, that’s why I said I think it’s a common error 🤷‍♂️

It’s just like other common mistakes nobody cares about

Because if you think about what man in German really means, it doesn’t make sense to me at least

[wise pendant]

Yeah, I had to listen to it multiple times, but it sounded to me like the end of bitte, where the bi is just not being pronounced properly

[swift bough]

It would be like if you said in English „Oh come on one“, makes no sense

[wise pendant]

is something an error if everyone does it like that? And if it would be wrong in english, it doesn't necessarily make our way to write it wrong

Duden agrees

nvm is the other man

[swift bough]

It expresses the same thing in German as it does in English, does it not?

[feral rivet]

I think Cursed Alien is acutally correct, but yea most people (myself included lol) spell it "man" instead of "mann"

[swift bough]

Therefore I would use the same word

[wise pendant]

No not nvm Duden does actually agree

[feral rivet]

interesting

[wise pendant]

wait its still a different man

nvm

[swift bough]

I consider it wrong to mix up your and you’re in English so yes

[feral rivet]

I'd use "mal" instead of "man" here, much confusion

[swift bough]

Just cuz everyone does it doesn’t mean it’s correct

At least not according to linguists

Honestly it’s kind of a big pet-peeve of mine but I never correct anyone that does it unless they’re asking

[wise pendant]

It's an influence from low german, where "man" just means "nur" and is used for emphasis like here

[wise pendant]

According to descriptivistic linguists everything used by the majority of people cannot necessarily be wrong.
Unless we talk about a set standard but I can't find any mention in the standard on how to write "man" as the expression

[feral rivet]

https://de.wiktionary.org/wiki/Mann scroll down to Redewendungen, [4]

[swift bough]

Yeah that’s true, I think I meant to say prescriptivists.

[wise pendant]

Oh yea i also just found the Duden entry. Guess you are supposed to write it "Mann".
You always learn something you, don't we

[swift bough]

Yep

But people will still make that mistake because nobody thinks about it and they have no difference in pronunciation

[wise pendant]

Still wouldn't count it as an error, as it was a transcription of almost unintelligible spider tongue.

[swift bough]

It counts as an error from my perspective, but from purely a colloquial perspective, it is not an error.

[wise pendant]

"Ich geh jetzt. Bitte geh an die Seite, ich muss da durch, Mann. Tschüss"
"'chgeh jetz. 'tte geh anne Seite 'ch muss da duach. man, Schüss"

There corrected it

[left crown]

If it's used this way, I wouldn’t really consider it as an error

[wise pendant]

it's kind of both in a way

[swift bough]

From a native English speaker‘s perspective, if you were to ever confuse the English versions of Mann and man, it would be instantly noticeable and people would look at you funny. This is why for me it feels weird to mix them up in German

[wise pendant]

Schrödingers error.
It's an error while at the same time not being an error as long as we don't look at it, because then we have to agree on either xD

[left crown]

😄

[wise pendant]

I mean it's not mixing them up but just adhering to standard orthography or not. The difference itself should be apparent communication wise.

[swift bough]

It is apparent, that’s not the issue.
The issue is it bugs me, which isn’t anyone else‘s problem but mine.

It makes sense why people confuse it, but if you actually think about the difference it doesn’t make sense.

[wise pendant]

Also when there is a special level of frustration it can be made into a long vowel which the nn would not suggest like "maaaan, alter", since it's used when talking to both genders we could also make it "man" to not confuse the epxression with adressing a male person, but I overanalyse the heck out of it , don't I 😅.

[swift bough]

Well, even native English speaking women/girls say „oh man“, it’s not like you’re directly calling someone a man when you say it. It’s just a simple outburst 🤷‍♂️

But to me I will still always view it as an error

[mellow nova]

I'm a little late but language is created/ruled by native speakers. If the majority say it one way, it is simply how the language works

[wise pendant]

Let's say purely hypothetical, the original "Mann!" in German still exists, but the "man" is just the germanized loan word from english, thus writing it like that in the original english orthography, boom, problem solved.

[swift bough]

They’re both said the same way. It’s a matter of how it’s written.

[mellow nova]

If you want to be pedantic, then sure, If the majority write* it one way

[swift bough]

It’s much more likely that people just don’t pay that much attention to detail tho, so they write man.

[wise pendant]

But Delli, he has a point since there exists a standard orthography for Mann in German which theoretically historically needs to be used here.

[mellow nova]

point is: books and rules don't make language.

[mellow nova]

Who cares? "You" used to be analogous to 'ihr', now it is used as a general pronoun, plural and singular second person. That wasn't "correct" at one point. Native speakers changed it

Not by some vote but through simply using it that way 'incorrectly'

[swift bough]

But since when has this change with man and mann actually become official

It hasn’t

[mellow nova]

It doesn't have to be official

[swift bough]

Language reforms are official though

It seems like it would have to be part of a language reform to be official, idk

[mellow nova]

I doubt you speak German fully 100% to the book of the last language reform

and most languages don't even do that

[wise pendant]

In the eyes of official standard german orthography, it is a mistake
In the eyes of the german written language as the direct expression of the language itself, it isn't

So as I said it's both, Schrödingers error

[swift bough]

Yeah I already mentioned that it depends on the perspective

No single perspective is the only correct perspective

[mellow nova]

sure

[fervent kernel]

cuz it's entertaining and Tante Marianne is just savage 😄

[fervent kernel]

keh heh, kekeke

[fervent kernel]

ich hab lieb x
ich hab x lieb

Hey guys. Can you tell me if both work? 🙂

Also, what case do I have to use here? 🤔 Acusative, dative?

[swift bough]

You can think of it like a separable verb despite having a space between it (it can be written as liebhaben but technically it’s just „lieb haben“). The prefix is better suited at the end of the sentence. And it uses accusative.

[fervent kernel]

Dankeschön!

[hoary pumice]

Can anyone help me with this?

I am practicing online

I think it should be maria muss morgen aufstehen

[swift bough]

That’s correct. It could also be „Muss Maria morgen aufstehen“ as well, if it’s a question instead of a statement.

[hoary pumice]

Could you help with this? I don't understand it. I chose eis coz it's perishable as in melt

[crystal fractal]

Bruh.. i dont even know👍

[sage tendon]

Maybe Eis is right cuz only sweet choice

[fervent kernel]

Isnt tomatensuppe the idd one?

[steel patrol]

Maybe Pommes frites? Just because it's made up of only a single ingredient (if you exclude all the spices and oil, that is). Whereas the other ones are all a mix of things.

Either way, I'd love to know now what the right answer is!

[scenic drift]

my god, i think you could argue any of those...

Hühnersuppe, because it's the only one with an umlaut 😉

[steel patrol]

The person who wrote the exercise question really didn't give us much to go on. 😄

[jaunty monolith]

Wie sagt man (wenn man ein Restaurant anruft): "Can I place an order for pickup?"

[shut briar]

Die Bevölkerungsdichte im Jura ist außerordentlich niedrig

Eine Meinung von außer ordentlich im Wörterbuch ist exceedingly, die andere, hugely

But exceedingly sort of means it's getting increasingly little. Hugely just means very. Which one is the more appropriate translation?

[sudden rover]

I'd say hugely/very

[crystal fractal]

Könnte ich (specific food you want) zum mitnehmen bestellen?

[north atlas]

Can somebody help me with some German work i have?

[crystal fractal]

Yea

[north atlas]

thank you

ok

so i have a list of words in order

[crystal fractal]

Ok

[north atlas]

and i need to conjugate them and add some missing words in between

can i show you the ones ive done so i know if i have done them right?

[crystal fractal]

Yes

Just post it

[north atlas]

Wann beginnen die Fernsehprogramm

Kennst du meinen Freund kommt aus Deutschland

Was machst du am Sonntag

Ich hab ein Computer

Die Buch sein sehr interessant

do these look right?

[crystal fractal]

Its das because the programm. And the verb for das is in that case beginnt

[north atlas]

oh

thank you

[crystal fractal]

There you can forget about the kommt. I dont know why but i learned that way

[crystal fractal]

Correct ☑️

[crystal fractal]

habe because of haben

[sudden rover]

Das Buch ist sehr interessant*

[crystal fractal]

Yep

[north atlas]

is sehr a form of sein?

[crystal fractal]

no. ist is a form of sein

[north atlas]

ok thank you

[crystal fractal]

sein = be
ist = is

[north atlas]

ah

and i have three more that im confused about if thats ok

Gehen / ihr / sechs Uhr / Bahnhof

Susi / spielen / Nachmittag / Computerspiele

hören / ihr / später / Rockmusik

[crystal fractal]

Try it alone first, post it here and you will get help. But we'll dont do your homework ;)

[north atlas]

yeah thats fair

Gehen ihr am sechs Uhr am Bahnhof

Susi spielt am Nachmittag ein Computerspiele

Ich hören ihr später Rockmusik

i think this is good?

[zealous lance]

Geht ihr **um *sechs Uhr zum Bahnhof?

[zealous lance]

you dont need "ein" there

because its not one computer game yk i dont know how to explain help

[north atlas]

i think i get it

they are talking about computer games in general

[zealous lance]

Hört ihr später Rockmusik?*

[zealous lance]

yess

[north atlas]

alright thank you for the help

[zealous lance]

do you have to form questions or just normal sentences tho?

[zealous lance]

np

[crystal fractal]

Can you post a screenshot of your exercise?

[shut briar]

I want to ask about the phrase 'schon einmal'
Literally it seems to mean already once
But I've often heard sentences like 'Waren sie schon einmal in Berlin' for have you ever been to Berlin

Can i use the same way in other contexts?

Or is it like a fixed expression

Someone just made a stupid mistake and I told them
" ich habe schon einmal den gleichen Fehler gemacht"

What i wanted to say was, i have also made the same mistake before

Hatte ich Recht?

[wise pendant]

jep

[shut briar]

So this has lost the emphasis that schon normally makes?

What if I want to say, i have already done this once

[wise pendant]

"Ich habe das schon einmal gemacht" pronounced like "chabe das schomma gemacht"
"schon einmal" just means "already" just ike "bereits". In the brains of natives I'd say it's usually thought of as a single unit, meaning just "already in the past" sorta

[shut briar]

Yeah that's what i'm asking, this seems to work as a unit, so what do I say when I want to say something like

I have already said it once, i won't repeat myself

Maybe my question makes no sense, I've been awake too long, gonna go to bed and see if it makes sense tomorrow

[wise pendant]

In that situation you'd probably use "bereits", meaning basically the same.
"Ich habe das bereits gesagt, und werde mich nicht wiederholen"

[wise pendant]

Maybe I don't understand what actually it is you are having an issue with

[marsh tartan]

Hallo zusammen, wie geht es euch

[crystal fractal]

Wunderbar

[heavy viper]

hello, i'm reading a page in german and i found this sentence:
Das ist ein gutes Beispiel, die SELBST nach so langem Studium noch immer sehr viele Rätsel AUFGIBT..

why is selbst there?

noch immer is the same as immer noch right?

rätsel aufgeben is like "many misteries to solve" in this context or are there any subtleties?

[proven sphinx]

I'm more confused by it being "die" instead of "das". "die" is grammatically incorrect here, since it's "das Beispiel" and not "die Beispiel".

[heavy viper]

t-t that was my mistakes but the rest is ok

[proven sphinx]

"Rätsel aufgeben" means that people are still unsure about it.

"selbst" just means "even" here.

[heavy viper]

thank you i didnt know that 🙂

[junior flame]

"Dann wurde Ihr Haus sicher um halb drei getroffen", sagte der Mann und schob wichtig die
Unterlippe vor

What does "schob wichtig die Unterlippe vor" mean?

[proven sphinx]

What the hell is even the context for this sentence? Did they launch a missile at someone's house or something? 🤔

[junior flame]

ja

[proven sphinx]

But yeah, it's a weird formulation, but it simply means he's protruding his lower lip, probably because he's thinking about something.

[junior flame]

Is "wichtig" making any sense in the sentence?

[crystal fractal]

Yea

[left crown]

probably to imply that the man does it to look important

[proven sphinx]

Yeah, that does make sense.

[crystal fractal]

I have eaten my first snow this year :)

[proven sphinx]

I think it's this meaning.

[crystal fractal]

I know that this is random xD

[ebon spear]

Does anyone have any secrets on how prefixs changes the verb (Eg. wachen = to watch aufwachen = to awake or kaufen = to buy but einkaufen = to shop) Any advice would help I am trying to understand it and it is killing me lol.😅

[autumn marsh]

if you find that secret, let me know lol

[wise pendant]

Every prefix has a sort of abstract meaning to it. But this meaning changed over time the last hundreds of years.
So some rules like
an- at some point meant mostly connecting something or bringing to things together or bringing something into another
anrufen, anbringen, anfangen, anstoßen, anbauen
But used with words not usually associated with it, it can also mean like "doing something non properly" or "incompletely".
auf is usually like "coming out of something", "opening" as in
aufholen, aufreißen
but can also mean doing something completely as in
aufessen
or having apparently nothing to do with that as in
aufräumen, aufprallen
btw auf is related to the english "up" as in "to get up"

So it's difficult as there is some rule there but more exceptions than actual rules. But some prefixes do have more or less fixed meanings as:
über meaning "over"
heraus meaning "out of"
hinter meaning "behind"
um meaning "around"

But a whole lot of exceptions, that are historically explainable but nowadays make it hard af to determine any kind of rule

[ebon spear]

Vieln Dank! This helps so much I was so lost when I started to encounter these and don't even get me started on the split verb thing. I appreciate you taking the time to help me.

What I am pretty much hearing is just treat it as another word and memorize the meaning, which is ok because it saves me time from just trying to figure out the rule.

[wise pendant]

Having a bit of an idea of the most common meaning of prefixes can help you alot though when encountering new words
übertreiben - overdoing something
vertreiben - drive something away (time for example by spending it)
auftreiben - make something come up (as in finding something)
antreiben - to let something get on
heraustreiben - drive something out of

[ebon spear]

I got you. I'll put my time into learning the most common ones and with time the less common ones will follow. Thank you!

[wise pendant]

you are welcome!

[inland jungle]

gibt es einen Unterschied zwischen "Fehler" und "Versehen"? Beide übersetzen als "a mistake" ?

[wise pendant]

Versehen is like "slip up" like something you did not intend to do
and Fehler is simply just error or mistake

[inland jungle]

thank you for the reply! are they more or less interchangeable in certain contexts/most of the time ? For example, if i make a mistake in german when speaking, and i say "Entschulding, ich habe ein Versehen gemacht" (?) is that the same as if i said "Entschuldigung, ich habe einen Fehler gemacht"

[night dagger]

in diesem Kontext würde ich wohl "Fehler" einfach verwenden

[inland jungle]

Danke! aber sind beide noch richtig oder klingt es sehr komisch/falsch mit "Versehen"?

[night dagger]

wenn man etwas falsch sagt, sollte man wohl "Entschuldigung, hab das falsch gesagt" sagen, glaub ich.

[pastel pagoda]

...wohl einfach "Fehler" verwenden*

[long whale]

You can't say Ich habe ein Versehen gemacht, you'd have to say "Es war ein Versehen". :)

[pastel pagoda]

or you say the most common phrase: aus Versehen

[inland jungle]

es war nur ein Beispiel (veilleicht ein sehr schlechtes Beipiel haha) fuer die Woerter anzuwenden weil ich nicht total verstehe was der Unterschied ist 😄

[inland jungle]

ah okay danke!

[night dagger]

hab eigentlich das vergessen. man kann auch sagen:"es tut mir leid, hab das aus Versehen gemacht."

[long whale]

It's "ein Versehen" if you mishear or misread or misconceive something. :)

[long whale]

Why do you keep dropping the "ich"? 🤔

[night dagger]

^ da würde ich wohl sagen: "ich hab das falsch gedeutet"

[long whale]

ich hab das falsch gedeutet ;)

[night dagger]

Tippfehler

danke :)

[night dagger]

da ich das immer sehe.

[long whale]

But it's exclusively for (sloppy) spoken German.

[night dagger]

ich bin momentan ein bisschen faul

[inland jungle]

Danke für eure Hilfe, Leute! 🙂

[pastel pagoda]

If you want to get really sloppy go "Abow maschallh bruda ich immer "ich" nicht mithabe im Satz"

[long whale]

But you're right. I should have said, "ein Versehen" is the result of mishearing/misreading/misconceiving something. :)

[night dagger]

nicht ganz, oder?

[long whale]

Why?

[night dagger]

ich meine, man kann "ein Versehen" verwenden, wenn man etwas falsch macht.

glaub ich

zB: ich hab die falsche Person angerufen. <-- ein Versehen

oder?

[long whale]

Yeah, it's difficult to pinpoint the difference. I'd say "ein Fehler" is like an error of judgement.

[night dagger]

ich würde gerne hier nur "do something by mistake" hinzufügen.

auf jeden Fall versuche ich, nicht semantisch zu sein lol

[inland jungle]

hey lol - Ich habe ein andere Wortschatzfrage. Ist "immer" das gleiche wie "immerzu"?

[night dagger]

immerzu?

[inland jungle]

ja ich habe ein buch gelesen und der Autor hat "immerzu" benutzt

[night dagger]

ich hab das nie gesehen

es bedeutet wohl "immer zu"

[inland jungle]

Hier ist der Satz: "Während der ganzen Fahrt in die Stadt sah ich tatenlos zu, wie Nancy Bobofit,
die rothaarige, sommersprossige Kleptomanin, meinem besten Freund Grover
immerzu Stückchen von einem Erdnussbutter-Ketchup-Sandwich an den
Hinterkopf warf"

[night dagger]

https://www.duden.de/rechtschreibung/immerzu

man sollte zuerst immer in einem Wörterbuch nachschlagen

[inland jungle]

ja ich habe das gemacht lol aber meine Woerterbuch hat nur "always" genannt. meine Frage war ob "immer" und "immerzu" komplett gleich sind

[wise pendant]

"repeatedly" more than "always" in that contexnt, so no the meaning is not always the same

[inland jungle]

thank you! would you say that immerzu is also only used in informal settings ?

[wise pendant]

immerzu is a bit antiquated, so you probably will encounter it more in formal settings, as they tend to be a lot more conservative language wise

[inland jungle]

okay! thank you again

[wise pendant]

yw

[steep wharf]

Hallo hat jemand die B2 ösd Prüfung bestanden ?

[cursive rain]

"Ich habe deine Reservierung FÜR acht Uhr gemacht"
"Ich habe ihn FÜR morgen Nacht eingeladen"

Für auf beiden?

[night dagger]

ihn

aber ja, das passt.

[cursive rain]

@night dagger Dankeschön

[night dagger]

danke schön*

kein Ding

[cursive rain]

Nein :P

[night dagger]

?

ja

:)

[left crown]

Doch.

[night dagger]

Dankeschön ist das Nomen.

aber keine Sorge, ich hab sogar gesehen, dass die Deutschen es manchmal auch so schreiben.

[cursive rain]

In der vergangenheit war ich korrigiert für "Danke schön!" schreiben

An hier

[night dagger]

die Korrektur war falsch.

[cursive rain]

Ja und hässlich