questions-2

[scenic drift]

uhmm

again, not quite?

everyone who is from abroad needs to be tested.

they may or may not be drug users or have illnesses.

would it help to rephrase it? the core idea is this:
"Ab Jahresende müssen in Russland arbeitende Ausländer alle drei Monate Tests machen."

and then it goes into more detail about what kind of tests they have to do. but the core idea is that everyone needs to do tests.

[autumn marsh]

it's fascinating to me that from everything that could be difficult it's exactly that which gives you problems ...

[hexed gust]

verwenden vs. benutzen?

[somber grotto]

I think verwenden is more formal

[hexed gust]

but both are interchangeable? are there any cases, formalities aside, where you would prefer one over the other?

[scenic drift]

there's some discussion here you may find useful: https://german.stackexchange.com/questions/8410/word-meaning-to-use-verwenden-anwenden-benutzen-nutzen-gebrauch

[hexed gust]

dankee

[dusty pendant]

I have 2 questions I want to ask;

1. where do you put adverbs and/or modal particles in an imperative sentence? for instance, in the sentence "gib mir das", where would you put mal?
2. In english, we can say something like "How's the new job going?" as well as "How's it going?" [which translates 1:1 with wie geht's]. How do you ask that first thing? I've heard that it's "wie läuft das" but I'd like confirmation on that

[autumn marsh]

1. gib mir das mal > at the end

but that doesn't mean it always has to be at the end.

"Lauf schon mal vor." for example

[dusty pendant]

in general, if I use them, should I just put them at the end?

[autumn marsh]

ehh i can't answer you that.

best i can do is: "maybe"

2. "Wie läufts (in deinem neuen) Job?" yes

[dusty pendant]

At the end of the day, if I misuse it I'll be corrected haha

thank you! :)

[autumn marsh]

exactly, the thing with modal particles is you're best off imitating natives

there are some guidelines about how and when to use them

[dusty pendant]

ye ye

they're super confusing though

though, what about adverbs?

would you put those at the end, too?

[autumn marsh]

"gib mir das schnell" for example? well, again - depends 😛

[dusty pendant]

right :D

[autumn marsh]

"Lauf schnell und du gewinnst." i mean ...

[fervent kernel]

Does haltestellen means stop as in "you really should stop right now" or does it mean stop as, like, a point where a train or bus allows people to get in or out?

Or maybe both?

[scenic drift]

a Haltestelle is a point along a line where it'd stop to let people in / out

it's not like "stop right now", it's like "this is my scheduled route and i will stop at these Haltestellen"

[fervent kernel]

Can I say "Wiederholen die Addresse"?

Is the subject mandatory? Can I omit it?

[swift bough]

It is mandatory if you are using it with Sie, sie/die, or wir (Bitte wiederholen Sie die Adresse / Könnten wir/sie die Adresse bitte wiederholen? (You need to use the modal verb können because it wouldn’t make any sense without it))
It is not mandatory if you are using du. But then it would look a bit different. „Wiederhol‘ bitte die Adresse“

But you also probably won’t really hear that. People would rather say „Sag mir bitte nochmal die Adresse“ or „Wie war [denn bitte] nochmal die Adresse?“

I mean it’s just not that common to use wiederholen that way

[fervent kernel]

can anyone explain to me the word überdrüssig"

like etwas ( genitiv ) überdrüssig haben

und dementsprechend muss ich auch fragen: was bedeutet " der überdruss an etwas" (dativ) beziehungsweise was ist der unterschied zwischen denen und "ich habe es satt" oder "ich habe genug von"

[shut briar]

@long whale hiya, kannst du darüber deine Meinung geben?

[hollow ether]

It's basically to be tired/weary of something.
"Der Überdruss" is just the nominalisation of it and as far as I know it's a synonym to satt and genug haben.

[long whale]

I would, but it says "Nachricht konnte nicht geladen werden", so, I don't know what you'd like my opinion on. :)

[mellow nova]

@long whale the message under this

[long whale]

I see. Well, it's mostly something you'll see on signs. Otherwise... I mean, if somebody said to me "Herkommen!" instead of something along the lines of "Würdest Du/Würden Sie bitte herkommen?", I'd tell them to feck off. :)

@shut briar

[fervent kernel]

What would be the most appropriate way to say "To the test the waters" in German?

[frail heron]

I dont know what you mean

[frail heron]

I have never heard of this in English

[fervent kernel]

Now you did.

[swift bough]

I found these

But honestly never heard them before

You hear „Ausprobieren“ a lot which is really similar in meaning

But it’s not a Redewendung

[fervent kernel]

But as a Brit, Have you heard that expression before?

[swift bough]

I‘m American

And yes I hear it

Every once in a while even I use it

[fervent kernel]

Yeah exactly..It's very common

[swift bough]

I put native with the British flags as in i am native English, not native to the UK

😹

[fervent kernel]

I am not a native english speaker but I hear it often because I consume a lot of English media

[swift bough]

But it’s not a weird expression

I actually like it

[fervent kernel]

Yeah same..It feels like you are an intellectual when you say it 😂

[swift bough]

I don’t feel that way

Seems like a normal way to speak if you ask me

[solid hull]

bro put american flag instead

[fervent kernel]

Idk, but maybe experimentieren?

Like if you mean "this girl wanted to test the waters with her sexuality" you could say " diese Mädchen wollte seine Sexualität experimentieren"

There's also a word "Experimentierenphase"

I just wanted to use this work in context of learning new Programming technologies when I am doing an interview not in that way 😂

But if you mean more like " we have to test the waters with this business plan" you could say " wir sollten vorsichtig umgehen, mit diesem Businessplan

[swift bough]

But I don’t want to imply that English is from the USA so that’s why I did that 🥸

A common way as well is like

[solid hull]

🤔 the variety of english u speak is tho

[swift bough]

Wir gucken/schauen mal, [ob]

[swift bough]

Yeah but did you know English isn’t actually an official language of the USA

[solid hull]

ik, usa has no official lang

still tho

also u implying english comes from the uk?

[shut briar]

My teacher regularly says Stummschaltung abschalten bitte, i can see why just saying would be rude but even with bitte it's weird? I also see it on my navigation app, but i guess that would come under signs

@long whale this was what i originally posted btw

Ich habe entdeckt dass man auf Deutsch Imperativ auch mit Infinitiv formen kann. Im Unterricht habe ich nur mit du, ihr und Sie es gelernt. Ich will wissen, wo ihr es benutzt. Wie anders fühlt euch wenn ihr sagen zB Mach etw vs Etw Machen

@long whale also this example, hopefully you can see it

[swift bough]

Well ofc it does. Not that it was always spoken how it is now, but where else would it be from?

English is originally a European language

If I put 🇺🇸 Native 🇺🇸 people could also interpret that as me being native Spanish

Which I’m not lel

[solid hull]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-perplexed-what-gif-10834164

[solid hull]

In what world

🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Native 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

[night dagger]

not really important, but i think nobody would interpret you as being a native spanish speaker if you put 🇺🇸 Native 🇺🇸 in your name or something lol. like 80% of the population speaks english, but TIL that the states doesn't have an official language; neat.

[swift bough]

@solid hull @night dagger how‘s this compromise

[solid hull]

both american flags

[night dagger]

Are you native in british english?

[solid hull]

he isnt

[night dagger]

sorry then

[solid hull]

[night dagger]

two american flags for you

if i see a brit and american flag, i'm thinking: "this person is brit-american"

[solid hull]

same

u american too?

[night dagger]

yup

[solid hull]

episch

[night dagger]

detroit

[solid hull]

fl here

[swift bough]

But „native 🇺🇸“ is like saying American is a language @night dagger

Which it isn’t

[night dagger]

American English is a language

British English is also a language

not intending to get into semantics here lol

[swift bough]

But if America has no official language and I put that flag, that’s like saying I „natively speak American“

[night dagger]

(English), yep

[swift bough]

I didn’t put that in my profile to make everyone happy anyway 🥸

[night dagger]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_words_having_different_meanings_in_American_and_British_English i just found this, pretty neat.

[mellow nova]

I don't put the American flag simply bc British people love to b annoying about that and would make fun of me

[solid hull]

Lol

[solid hull]

what they say

[swift bough]

Just make fun of their rotten teeth and you're even

That toothbrushes are illegal there

[night dagger]

no need to be rude here; would probably delete that tbh

[swift bough]

It was just a joke

It's a friendly rivalry, they make fun of us too

[solid hull]

loool

[swift bough]

Delli literally just said they would make fun of him

[dusty pendant]

can you say " was auch immer " in the way that we use "whatever" in english?
i.e in the sense of
" Whatever, I don't really care "

[night dagger]

yeahhhhhh, just be careful that you’re not coming across as rude. „Es ist mir egal“ also works here.

[echo vale]

Hallo zusammen! So mein Deutsch ist nicht so gut können jiemand hilf mir? Mein grammatik ist SEHR schlecht wärhend ich schreibe mit Englisch grammtik. Gibt es cool seiten zu hilf mir? Oder videospiele vielleicht? Danke!

[mellow nova]

Du kannst vielleicht Nicos Weg nutzen

faq nicos

[stoic mauve]

nicos

Nicos Weg is a free online program aimed at helping people learn German. It includes video, audio, text, grammar explanations, notes, vocabulary, and exercises. It also includes very useful cultural and bureaucratic information, such as how to open a bank account, while teaching you the relevant grammar and vocabulary.

It’s fairly popular and well-recommended, but keep in mind that you can’t learn a language with only one resource, even if it’s a good one!

You can find the courses here: https://learngerman.dw.com/en/overview/

You can also see various other courses for learners by dw.com here: https://www.dw.com/en/learn-german/s-2469/

[mellow nova]

und auch kannst du >explain all oder >faq beginner im #botchannel shcreiben

dort gibts viele gute Tipps zum Deutschlernen

[echo vale]

Ah danke Delli, sehr geschätzt

[mellow nova]

bitte sehr

[long whale]

Mm, I see. I can see various possible reasons for using this kind of imperative in speaking (in the cases you mentioned), none of them are anything to do with "posh": if you've got an urgent request and a separable verb, and/or a negation, you might feel it took too long to get your point across with a normal imperative - what with the negation and the prefix coming last. Also, somebody might either feel the normal imperative was too hard to understand for a learner, and/or they couldn't be bothered to take the nanosecond to decide whether to use formal or informal address. :)

[mental furnace]

Hallo leute, ich will wisse was "kunde" bedeutet. es beduet wie " Customer" oder "News". danke für ihre Hilfe.

[scenic drift]

please don't post the same thing in multiple channels :)

[fervent kernel]

you could say "meinetwegen" to say whatever

[scenic drift]

did you figure out that sentence in the end, popcorn? :)

[delicate tiger]

[von der Kantstraße aus] [in die Einfahrt des Weihnachtsmarktes]

[quartz needle]

yea I think its ok if you just leave the "aus" out

[quartz needle]

I don’t think it means anything different. Its just a thing like for example “von zuhause aus” or “von den Park aus” and in this case “von der Kantstraße aus” you can leave the aus and it’ll be the exact same

In my opinion when the “aus” is there the sentence sounds better

[quartz needle]

And as to why? I have no idea why, its just kinda how it is i guess

gern geschehen

[pearl acorn]

yo fellas i wanna know if this sentence is correct " warum meinst du, ich diese rechnung bezahlen zu müssen?) when it comes to using the (infinitivsätze mit zu)

[hexed gust]

"Können Sie die Grammatikfehler in dieser Bildern finden?"
ist es richtig?

[mellow nova]

in diesen Bildern

[hexed gust]

ah okay but otherwise correct?

thanks!

[junior flame]

Er sagt: "Der Weg, der durch einen Park führt, ist sehr schön" (please convert it into indirekte Rede using Konjunktiv 1)

[mellow nova]

well what is the konjunktiv I version of 'ist'

[junior flame]

sei

[mellow nova]

yup

@proven sphinx you don't need K1 of führen right?

for this sentence

[proven sphinx]

You don't because it's referring to an actual path through a park.

[mellow nova]

cool, thought so but just wanted to make sure I wasn't telling someone wrong

[junior flame]

Ya that was the confusion

Danke

Er schrieb: Nach den Vorlesungen gehen Hans und ich zum Essen in ein Gasthaus, das ganz in der Nähe von Uni liegt.

So here also we dont need k1 of liegen, do we?

[mellow nova]

nope! and gehen is the same in indikativ and konjunktiv 1 so basically nothing changes

[junior flame]

Bt since gehen is same in indikativ und konjunktiv 1, we need to use k2 of gehen here

so gehen will change to gingen

[mellow nova]

that's optional I believe but yes you will see that happen

[proven sphinx]

*der Uni

[junior flame]

@proven sphinx Ja, von der Uni bt liegt will remain liegt, isnt it?

[proven sphinx]

Yep.

[junior flame]

@proven sphinx one last sentence, er sagt: "Ich würde bald gehen" (how will a sentence already on k2 change in indirekte rede?)

[proven sphinx]

K2 stays K2 in this case.

[lilac gale]

Hey, I'm making a video for school and I need help with the credits. How do I say "made by", "voiceover" and "edit (as in video editing)"?

[pine nexus]

'hergestellt von', 'Off-Stimme', 'bearbeiten'

[broken abyss]

Hi! I couldn´t translate this "sentence":

"Ab in den Urlaub!"

It has no context (just the name of theme about vacations), online translators can´t translate it, dictionaries also don´t help. I would just say "in den Urlaub". Also I saw like a theme the "sentence":

"Auf nach Wien" (why do we need "auf", when "nach" is enough?)

[frozen fog]

you can use either "auf" or "nach"

basically same thing

[broken abyss]

has it some additional meaning?

[frozen fog]

if u use "auf" itll sound much better if u talk to a german dude

[broken abyss]

"auf nach" or just "auf"?

[frozen fog]

*woman

u can also say: Auf geht's nach Wien!

wait my bad sry

auf nach is correct

my bad

Auf nach Wien! Auf gehts nach Wien! Los! Gehen wir nach Wien. and so on

[broken abyss]

Aaa, understood
thanks

[frozen fog]

hope i can help u

could

🙂

if u need more help feel free to ask me

[broken abyss]

Yes, sure
when questions come )

[fervent kernel]

Obgleich er noch soeben das Verlangen nach irgendwelchem Verkehr mit anderen Menschen verspürt hatte, empfand er plötzlich bei dem ersten Worte, dass nun wirklich an ihn gerichtet wurde, sein gewohntes unangenehmes und gereiztes Gefühl des Widerwillens, gegen jeden Fremden der mit ihm in Berührung kam oder dies auch nur zu beabsichtigen schien.

[icy flax]

Das hat mir sehe gefallen. Woher hast du diesen Auszug, Resario? Könntest du mir vielleicht mal das Titel nennen? Danke!!

[long whale]

*irgendwelchem, isn't it? And unangenehmes?

[long whale]

https://www.projekt-gutenberg.org/dostojew/schuldsu/chap02.html

[junior flame]

Er sagt: "Ich bin seit 2 Tagen das gemacht worden." ( Please convert it into indirekte Rede using k1)

[delicate tiger]

the original doesn't make any sense

[junior flame]

@delicate tiger I wanted to say" I have been doing that for two days" using passiv

[scenic drift]

mm

maybe have a go at "I have been doing that for two days" just by itself first

to convert that into the passive, i guess you could do "That has been done by me for two days"...?

[junior flame]

Oh ja

Okay leave that one, convert this into indirekte Rede using K1
Er sagt: "Das ist von mir gemacht worden."

[scenic drift]

ok, please have a go at converting it yourself :)

[junior flame]

I would say: Er sagt, das sei von mir gemacht worden. (Is it correct?)
@scenic drift

[scenic drift]

grammatically looks good to me.

but should it be "von mir"?

[junior flame]

von ihm*

[icy flax]

Beim Aufbau von Komposita wird oft ein -s nach Nachsilben, wie -keit, -heit und -ung, hinzugefügt. Gerade eben hab ich auf "Stellungnahme" gestoßen, suchte dann nach anderen Komposita, die auch mit Stellung anfangen (an diesen gab es ein -s), und jetzt frage ich mich:
Gibt es eine andere weitere Regel, die dabei uns helfen kann, für oder gegen dieses -s zu entscheiden, oder halt besser lernen, wie mit dieser lieben Unregelmäßigkeit umgehen zu können?

[delicate tiger]

einfach akzeptieren

[long whale]

No fixed rules for the Fugen-S, unfortunately. 🤷 @icy flax

But "auf etwas/jemanden stoßen" requires a different auxiliary. 👀

[icy flax]

Wie dumm! Haha *ist!!

[dusty pendant]

Ist "Ich hab' eine Frage an dich zu stellen" richtig?
Ich weiß, dass man "Ich hab' eine Frage an dich" sagen kann, aber kann man den anderen Satz sagen? [ok how many mistakes did I make there? I'm definitely unsure of how " anderen " works, though]

[icy flax]

Soweit es mir bekannt ist, ist alles richtig.

[dusty pendant]

und die erste frage?

[long whale]

Without "zu stellen", it sounds normal. :)

[dusty pendant]

of course, I know that, but would you hear the other way anywhere?

i'm just curious, is all

[long whale]

I can't imagine saying this, ever. 🤷

[dusty pendant]

good to know!

[fervent kernel]

Hallo Leute

Warum "das" ist in Akkusativ?

[dusty pendant]

I'm not sure I understand the question?

[fervent kernel]

Relativsätz "das in grün", wieso nimmt es Akkusativ?

[fervent kernel]

Hier ist in Akk und habe das verstanden, aber die erste ne

[long whale]

But you've got "der Apfel" (Akkusativ: den Apfel) and "das Gesetz" (Akkusativ: das Gesetz)

[fervent kernel]

Ja aber “das Gesetz” wieso nimmt Akk bitte? 😅

[long whale]

Ah - wait, "das" is Nominativ here, since you've got Passiv in your relative clause.

In the same way you could say "Der Apfel, der gestern gegessen wurde"

[final orchid]

in which situation should I use verb 'einbauen'?

[fervent veldt]

It is like "set up" something

Or "mount", like putting something on a wall. I could be wrong.

[final orchid]

can I use for couch for example

[fervent veldt]

What do you mean?

[final orchid]

I bought a new couch from IKEA and just set it up

[fervent veldt]

No, it means fit something into something else

Like "mount", "build into", or "install".

[final orchid]

Oh ok

I get it now

[fervent veldt]

Or "embed"

All correct depending on context

[final orchid]

I confused it with something else

thanks

[fervent veldt]

Kein Problem ☺️

[dusty pendant]

are wieso and warum interchangeable?

[unique anvil]

yes

there is a saying that goes „wieso, weshalb, warum, wer sowas fragt ist dumm“ (alternative: bleibt dumm)
not very nice if i‘m honest, but those 3 words are pretty much interchangable

[dusty pendant]

that's a silly saying! :D

[fervent kernel]

ye, my bad it was late when i wrote that

[fervent kernel]

🙂 hast du das buch schon gelesen?

[fervent kernel]

it's from Schuld und Sühne. The book definitely uses c2 german and mostly old vocabulary

[unique anvil]

honestly only pure germans with german parents and grandparents can read stuff like that without issues

even i have troubles

[fervent kernel]

It really depends on how much you are exposed to stuff like that. If you read it a lot, it becomes easier to you

[unique anvil]

you mean read that same work over and over?

[fervent kernel]

It's highly educated Germans who can read it easily. Others have trouble

[unique anvil]

some publishers provide a little dictionary in the back to explain certain works

Leben des Galilei at Suhrkamp Verlag had that, rlly saved my ass

[fervent kernel]

i need to look up a word every 2 sentences but i am getting better and better every time i do it

[unique anvil]

guess living in germany for 18 years doesn‘t make me educated enough 😔

[fervent kernel]

native Germans who don't read books will also struggle a lot with that book, i can tell you that

many natives here don't even know most of the vocabulary, when i ask them

@unique anvilbtw check out this sentence

"Er hatte für sie sogar einen leisen Ausdruck hochmütiger Geringschätzung, als seien sie Menschen von niedriger Stellung und tieferer Bildungsstufe mit denen er nicht wohl reden könne."

Another sentence from the book. Like every 5th sentence in that books goes like that 🙂

[unique anvil]

lmao that moment when the book has a grammatical error

Bildungsstufe, mit denen er….

a comma is missing

hahaha

[fervent kernel]

that was me copying it from the book

:/

like i typed it out here

didn't copy and paste

[unique anvil]

oooh

i thought you copy pasted

no biggie then

[icy flax]

Es gefällt mir sehr

[fervent kernel]

Hast du es vor kurzem begonnen oder hast du es schon einmal gelesen?

[icy flax]

Es würde mir echt sehr gefallen, sowas zu lesen. Danke, feiner Herr Resario

[autumn marsh]

fucking love it 😅

it's not originally German tho but a translation

if you really want to get your brain fucked (in the best way), read Nietzsche

he's the unmatched master of German, imo

[unique anvil]

How is Nietzsche not German ?

[autumn marsh]

idk, he is (was)

[fervent kernel]

So he uses the highest levels of German in his books?

[autumn marsh]

it's a good bit harder than Dostojewski tho. I love Dostojewski, he's one of the reasons in want to learn russian

but Nietzsche is heavy stuff. but unparalleled in the mastery of the language imho

[unique anvil]

Absolutely

Gotta have an interest in what he's writing to be able to comperehend it

[fervent kernel]

ah kk i will try him out after i read the 4 books by dostejewski

which are like 4 k pages combined

[unique anvil]

I wanna say i read Dostojewski before, but i can't remember it's been too long

[autumn marsh]

Dostojewski is worth every second

[unique anvil]

not when you're 11 and have to read his stuff in russian lol

but like i said... i don't know if we read him or nah

[fervent kernel]

yeah i heard russians have to read him at school

[autumn marsh]

hm i read him the first time when I was 15 or 16 iirc, in German ofc

was a big delight

but yea maybe 11 is a tan bit early 😅

[fervent kernel]

btw. Ohne sich lange zu besinnen, betrat er den Raum. This means without thinking much about it?

[unique anvil]

Welcome to Russian school:)))

[unique anvil]

Yess

[autumn marsh]

yes

[fervent kernel]

ye it surely is. I think he is better suited for adults

[autumn marsh]

"besinnen" is basically extinct as a verb in common speech, it lives on in words like "zur Besinnung kommen" and among highly educated folks who fancy those kinda words

[fervent kernel]

ah kk, and er kam zur Besinnung means he calmed down?

he cleared his mind?

[autumn marsh]

he regained consciousness

[fervent kernel]

huh

so he was emotional before?

aufgewühlt?

aufgeregt?

in einem Zustand der Erregung

[autumn marsh]

might be, yea, could have also been inconcious

like, literally knocked out 😅

[fervent kernel]

wait what, it's also used in that case ? xDD

[autumn marsh]

or in a state of blind rage

[autumn marsh]

it's actually mostly used in those cases.

[fervent kernel]

damn i didn't know that

[autumn marsh]

"Nachdem er wieder zur Besinnung gekommen war, schaute er sich im Raum um. Sein Schädel rumorte fürchterlich ob des Schlages, den sein Gegner ihm gegen die Schläfe verpasst hatte."

like this

[fervent kernel]

Unser Sohn ist von der Schaukel gestürzt und war kurz bewusstlos. Nach einigen Minuten kam er jedoch wieder zur Besinnung?

is this correct?

[autumn marsh]

yes

[fervent kernel]

achso hahah

[autumn marsh]

it's used in the same way as "wieder das Bewusstsein erlangen"

maybe a little educated German in a way, but not at all uncommon

"sich besinnungslos saufen" also gets used, as in "Komasaufen" (drink till you pass out)

[fervent kernel]

Weil er so spät dran war, geriet er in Panik und suchte den Treffpunkt in dem er die Straße wild auf und ab lief. Als das alles nichts half, beruhigte er sich einen Moment und kam zur Besinnung. Well that's a terrible one

xD

Yeah i've seen it being used after a Zustand der Erregung in the dostojewski book

[autumn marsh]

well, yea that could work, kinda. although "besann er sich seiner Situation und begann zu überlegen" would fit better

besann = Präteritum of besinnen

[fervent kernel]

seiner Situation besinnen?

is that a collocation

[autumn marsh]

it's like "sich seiner Situation bewusst werden"

[fervent kernel]

ah ok

that's interesting

[autumn marsh]

so "wurde er sich seiner Situation bewusst und begann zu überlegen" says the same thing

like, getting into a state of becoming aware of what's actually going on, or regaining control if yourself

"sinnen" also exists, "Er sann eine Weile, gedankenverloren" > like "grübelnd denken"

[fervent kernel]

ah kk i understand

[autumn marsh]

it's fairly common in books that are 100years old to find these verbs

[fervent kernel]

Der alte Mann widmete sich jeden Nachmittag dem Sinnen?

[autumn marsh]

they're not completely extinct but basically are in common speak among most people (personally, i like them but I'm a nerd so yea)

[autumn marsh]

mhh, I'd used "dem Nachsinnen" there, not sure why, it's like denken + nachdenken I'd say

any, gtg sleep, thanks 😅 and gl

[fervent kernel]

gn 🛌

thank you too

[icy flax]

Where does Thomas Mann stand in your books per mastery level list?

[long whale]

Yes. I'm one of those Germans who read quite a lot. ;)

[autumn marsh]

very high up as well. love his books. he's more of a storyteller, which Nietzsche couldn't really do (at all)

[long heath]

I know this is supposed to sound like cringy youth-speak, but I have no idea what this part means: "krieg dich ein, du benimmst dich gerade echt daneben-Knopf"
Could someone here explain its meaning, please?

[scenic drift]

also known as the "Hey dude, calm down, you're acting really out of line right now"-button

[near folio]

einkriegen: https://de.wiktionary.org/wiki/einkriegen (sich beruhigen)
sich daneben benehmen: https://de.wiktionary.org/wiki/danebenbenehmen (sich schlecht benehmen)

[long heath]

Oh, I thought daneben-Knopf was just one word haha

I see, thank you

[icy flax]

Und, der letzte Schlüssel, warum steht da "Knopf" überhaupt geschrieben?

[scenic drift]

because it's a button the mods can press? 🤔

[long heath]

Es bezieht sich auf die neue Discord-Funktion, indem man einen Button drücken kann, um jemand zeitweise zu sperren

[icy flax]

Jaaa, stimmts! Ich hab nur den Auszug von Mister gebracht. Danke, @scenic drift. und @long heath

[long heath]

Gerne =)

[hexed gust]

enttäuscht von/über/wegen?

[near folio]

Kontext?

Alle drei sind möglich, es kommt auf den Kontext an.

[hexed gust]

no context, just wanna know the differences in use i guess?

[near folio]

Zwischen von und über ist schwer einen Unterschied zu erkennen. Mein Gefühl ist, dass man enttäuscht von nutzt, wenn man die Person (die jemanden enttäuscht hat) betonen will, und enttäuscht über , wenn man das Thema/die Tatsache betonen will.

[autumn marsh]

yea, über is refering to abstract things, von to something specific, mostly a person

Ich bin enttäuscht von Anna (Person)
Ich bin enttäuscht über Annas Verhalten. (Abstract)

'wegen' is the word of choice when answering to: "Weswegen (weshalb/warum/wieso) bist du enttäuscht?" > (Ich bin enttäuscht) Wegen Anna / Wegen Annas Verhalten

compare: I'm disappointed of Anna
why are you disappointed? (I am disappointed) because of Anna

wegen takes because of, basically.

note that this is the only suitable way to answer to this, likewise you can only answer to: "wovon/von wem/von was/ bist du enttäuscht?" with von: (Ich bin enttäuscht) Von Anna/Annas Verhalten

just as: worüber bist du enttäuscht? (Ich bin enttäuscht) über Anna / Annas Verhalten

[autumn marsh]

oops forgot to mention @hexed gust in case you're still interested

[shut briar]

In English you can can use would to express that something happened in past a lot

Zb I would go with her everyday

We would often lie about it
We would sit at the beach for hours

Can you do this in German

[hexed gust]

Thank you very much @near folio @autumn marsh I really appreciate it

[scenic drift]

i don't think there's an equivalent construct, the translation would depend on context:
Wir haben oft darüber gelogen.
Wir haben stundenlang am Strand gesessen.

[shut briar]

I used it without thinking then, i guess it felt right because of English.
I said Wir würden stundenlang am Strand sitzen.

[scenic drift]

(i'm just about to go into an exam, so if someone else doesn't answer i can grab this in about 3-4 hours 😆 )

[shut briar]

But haben doesn't feel right because it doesn't show that it was a usual thing

[shut briar]

Viel Erfolg!

[scenic drift]

(but, no, imo the "würden" doesn't work there in expressing what you want to express)

[fervent kernel]

Weiß jemand was "In schlechte Verhältnisse geboren werden" (oder so ähnlich) auf Englisch heißen könnte? Mir fällt kein adäquates Beispiel ein.

[delicate tiger]

bitte nur in einem Kanal gleichzeitig fragen

[fervent kernel]

aight

[kind anvil]

Hallo hallo, ich habe eine Frage

Sagt man "es gibt ein Hund" oder "es gibt einen Hund"?

[frail heron]

The second one

[charred harbor]

Given that "geben" takes Akkusativ, and "Hund" is maskulin, the correct article would be "einen".

[kind anvil]

Danke

[kind anvil]

Ahh ja, das stimmt

It is a weird construtction, so I was just making sure

[charred harbor]

For "Es gibt ein X" whatever X represents would be a neuter noun (or to be technical, being treated as one) :)

[kind anvil]

Danke :)

[mental furnace]

does "geben" take everytime akkusativ ? @charred harbor

[charred harbor]

Well “geben” means “to give”, and when you give something whatever it is you’re giving is the grammatical object. You can think of it in that sense :)

[mental furnace]

hmm got you now

[charred harbor]

And “es” would be like the subject, I suppose.

[scenic drift]

“Being born into bad circumstances” would cover it. I think there’s some more idiomatic versions too but I’d need to have a think…

[fervent kernel]

that's not surprising, i could tell that the first time i saw you in here

[pallid gyro]

Der Krieg verläuft zu unseren Gunsten. -- Gunst here is actually plural, exceptionally, right? Otherwise, is 'unser' here declined in the accusative instead of dative due to usage?

[sage tendon]

with zu it is always dative

[pallid gyro]

I would expect so, but then we'd have 'unserer', and the proper declension above is supposed to be 'unseren'

furthermore, apparently 'Gunst' has no plural, so I'm confused as to why we're declining in the dative plural to get 'unseren'

[long whale]

"zu jemandes (!) Gunsten" -> zu meinen/deinen/seinen/unseren/euren/ihren G. is a fixed expression. Just accept as is, I'd say. :)

Edit: DWDS says "zu Gunsten + Genitiv" is actually a preposition. https://www.dwds.de/wb/zu Gunsten

[fervent kernel]

uns zu gunsten

[pallid gyro]

Thanks a lot, I saw this in the dictionary and I didn't know how to interpret 'jemandes' in this case, since -en declension isn't typical with Genitiv

[fervent kernel]

it's like dir zu liebe

why my name is crimson prophecy

[pallid gyro]

Thanks for the comments!

Quick follow-up: when I see the 'jds.' in a dictionary, can it substituted not only with a Genitiv pronoun but also with meinen/deinen/seinen/unseren/euren/ihren? (or was the above example with "zu jds. Gunsten" an exception?)

[sage tendon]

You clicked that thing in #919256700211568671

[long whale]

I think you're confusing something: zu Susanas Gunsten (in Susana's favour) -> zu ihren Gunsten (in her favour)

[uneven jungle]

how would you ask someone to join a vc with you to help pronunciation or just do a study group?
Please mention me if you answer please

[stoic mauve]

@uneven jungle, please read #getting-started for info on how to join VC and more.

[uneven jungle]

Lol ok then

[dusty pendant]

I read something somewhere about future promises being in Präsens?
I don't know what to type in to find that again so I'd just like some confirmation

[long whale]

Yes, that's correct. I mean, we don't use Futur (with werden) much, anyway. 🤷

[dusty pendant]

oh really?

what exactly is everything people use präsens for?

[scenic drift]

in german, i'm afraid, but here's an overview:

We use the present tense

• to report and describe present events and conditions,
• to describe future events (often with a time reference),
• to express general, time-independent facts.

We use the historical present

• to dramatize past events,
• to reproduce or retell literary texts, e.g., in essays, reviews, etc.

[dusty pendant]

that's a lot! :D

so, in most cases
" I'm doing that" and "I do that" are the same
and the only difference between them and "I will do that" is context?

[long whale]

Well, to mark the difference between present continous and simple, you can use an adverb - gerade - to show something is happening right now. :)

[dusty pendant]

ahh so that's what it means! :D
still though, you don't need it

god i love this language

[uneven jungle]

Where would you ask someone to be study partners? On here? Or just like get to know someone and then y’all become study buddies

[slow moon]

You can jump into rooms or wait until somebody has a lesson or something. ( Most of the time on weekends) What level are you at? Also love thee picture, is that a wolf or a husky?

[dusty pendant]

wolf eat watermeoln

[uneven jungle]

I’m like A1 but I basically call myself a complete beginner from the amount of times I restart learning German

[uneven jungle]

Yes lol

[slow moon]

It is hard, been at it for 3 years and i am barely A2

[fervent kernel]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-watermelon-gif-12444002

[uneven jungle]

Damn my problem is I want to learn it quick

But Ik I can’t

[slow moon]

Me too, I broke down and spend a little bit of money on some classes. (Zoom classes) I need a teacher to explain certain things like the perfekt and declensions. Well good luck to you maybe we can practice speaking in a practice room sometime. It is hard for me finding people to speak german with, and I work at a German Company.

[uneven jungle]

I hardly know how to say anything in German but I’ll be happy to speak with you in a call

[slow moon]

Do you know greetings, numbers, colors ? Do you study on any apps?

[uneven jungle]

I know numbers and very few greeting but colours? Not really

And also I do use apps but I end up losing motivation to use them

[torn haven]

Are my answers for the task grammatically correct ?

[slow moon]

I hear you jump in the practice room if you want to we can try to talk.

[uneven jungle]

Now? I mean I’m playing red dead online but I’m not listening to it just playing. I’ll try and talk at the same time lol

[steel patrol]

Check your spelling for "to sleep" (nr. 5) and conjugate it accordingly to the personal pronoun "du".

[pine nexus]

The 1st one isn't I don't think

[slow moon]

Ok NP maybe some other time.

[uneven jungle]

I mean I can multitask however I might be a bit distracted so yeah maybe not today but if you’re not free later we can do it now

[pine nexus]

5th one also doesn't quite sound right

Time, manner, place

[torn haven]

"Schläfst" right, ok

[torn haven]

That's the normal order ?

[pine nexus]

Yeah so for the first one, sprichst du Morgen mit dem Direktor

[torn haven]

Ok

[slow moon]

Don't worry about it I am trying to do a lesson right now myself, If I see you again I send you a message or vice versa.

[uneven jungle]

Ahh ok all good. Have fun with your lesson

[pine nexus]

And for the 5th one it needs to be changed too

[slow moon]

Sounds good ttyl

[spark kindle]

zur Suche oder zum Suchen?

[night dagger]

beides geht, na? hängt von dem Kontext ab, glaub ich

aber ehrlich gesagt kann ich mir keinen Unterschied vorstellen

[spark kindle]

Danke. Ich auch

[uneven jungle]

I’m free for the next 3 hours or so today but after that I have some Christmas thing I need to go to

[pallid gyro]

Ahhhhhh right! Thank you so much!

[jagged hemlock]

Hii

[stoic flax]

I believe morgen should be lowercase in this case, as it‘s not a noun but rather a specification of time, „Wann spricht Xe mit dem Direktor? - Er spricht morgen mit dem Direktor.“
Just in OPs case formulated into a question.

bruh I just realised how long ago that question was lmao

[charred harbor]

Other than the fact that your "Schläfen" should be "Schläfst" (as already pointed out), "sonntags" should also be lower case.

[torn haven]

Ohhh

I always thought that it counts as a noun

[charred harbor]

Nope! It's an adverb

"Sonntag" is a noun, but "sonntags" is not

[torn haven]

Ok ok thanks for clarifying

[charred harbor]

"Schläfst du bis 11 Uhr sonntags?"

[little topaz]

Ich sagte, "Wenn er da nicht wäre, hätte ich sie nicht finden können"
just trying to practice subjunctive 2, is this grammatically correct?

[solid hull]

wenn er da nicht gewesen wäre

using wäre by itself is also fine, but possibly more informal

[plain umbra]

Are you a native speaker?

[solid hull]

no

[plain umbra]

Okay.

[solid hull]

Why

[plain umbra]

I was just curious about it.

[solid hull]

i c

[plain umbra]

And I'm not good at correcting stuff like this but I feel like it would rather be "nicht da" instead of "da nicht", but I'll wait for someone else to comment on that since I'm not 100% sure.

[solid hull]

I think both are valid, but the emphasis is placed on a different word

with da nicht, nicht is being emphasized
with nicht da, da is being emphasized

I’d wait for a native though

[charred harbor]

I agree with Base

Both are grammatically correct but I feel like "nicht da" sits a bit better

[long whale]

It would help if you told me/us what you were trying to say. :)

[little topaz]

I said,"If he wasn't there, i couldn't have found her"

[long whale]

"there" as in "in that exact place" or "there" as in "present"?

[dusty geyser]

That would be "Wenn er nicht da gewesen wäre, hätte ich sie nicht finden können"

At least I would translate it like that

[little topaz]

in that exact place

[long whale]

Wouldn't yours translate back to "If he hadn't been there, I couldn't have found her"?

[long whale]

Yeah, in that case, your "da" is in the right place. :)

[charred harbor]

I don't really make a distinction 😂

The two sound basically exactly the same to me

[dusty geyser]

Google (which I know is not the best resource) says "Wenn er nicht da gewesen wäre, hätte ich sie nicht finden können"

[plain umbra]

You can use DeepL, which is better at German translation than Google Translate.

[autumn marsh]

there is a rather sharp distinction in that for natives though. deepL will most likely not pick up the difference, or it will but will not make it visible to you, that is why Susanna made it so clear in the English sentences

for a German native, this goes without explaining ofc 😅

[charred harbor]

For German or English natives, do you mean, sorry?

I was commenting on the English and meant that the two sentences are basically interchangeable, so no matter which English translation you go with it wouldn't overly matter

[coarse sparrow]

"Selbst die plausible Scheidung der Sphären Produktion, Reproduktion und Konsum ist ihrerseits gesellschaftliches Produkt, von der Soziologie weniger zu akzeptieren als abzuleiten."

I can't understand structure or "Produktion, Reproduktion und Konsum" in this sentence and

meaning of "von der Soziologie zu akzeptieren"

[pallid gyro]

@coarse sparrow it seems to imply that the structure of production, reproduction and consumption is not so much something that is impassively observed by sociology, but actually produced by it

[coarse sparrow]

hmm

[scenic drift]

awfully good translation for A-level 👀

[scenic drift]

split it like this:
die Scheidung der Sphären:

• Produktion
• Reproduktion, und
• Konsum

weniger (zu akzeptieren) als (abzuleiten)

[pallid gyro]

my bad i updated the role

[coarse sparrow]

die Scheidung der Sphären = Produktion, Reproduktion und Konsum?

[pallid gyro]

the division as these spheres, from what I understand

the division of what exactly is left unnamed, but from the paragraph it seems to be the division of society into these spheres

[coarse sparrow]

so I mean, whether the spheres include Produktion, Reproduktion and Konsum

[pallid gyro]

to my understand, those are the spheres themselves

(edited) what exactly is divided isn't mentioned explicitly

[coarse sparrow]

hmm......

"Even the plausible separation of the spheres of production, reproduction and consumption is itself a social product, less to be accepted by sociology than to be derived from it."

is this translation correct?

[pallid gyro]

that's what I would go with

[coarse sparrow]

achso danke

[cosmic tendon]

is it correct ?
"Pcr ist unser einziger Weg ,damit wir erkennen können, ob wir Corona haben oder nicht."

[icy flax]

Check the adjective declension when there's a possessive pronom

@cosmic tendon

[cosmic tendon]

you mean "Pcr ist unser einzige Weg" ?

[wise pendant]

I'd say einziger was already correct though
@icy flax

[icy flax]

oh, true, my bad, I had in mind the possessive would follow the definite article. It was all right, @cosmic tendon.

[naive cedar]

hey

what is the infinitiv of setzt ein

is it like setzen

setzen ein

[delicate tiger]

"einsetzen"

[naive cedar]

oh shit

true

what does it mean?

@delicate tiger

what does it mean then?

[delicate tiger]

https://dict.leo.org/englisch-deutsch/einsetzen

[pallid gyro]

what would be the verb used to ask someone to consider a sentence? e.g. if I want to ask a certain question about it. For example, in english: "Consider the following sentence: 'The sky is blue'. What is the tense of the verb?" etc.

'betrachten'? "Betrachten Sie bitte den folgenden Satz: 'blahblah'"

[versed wind]

beachten or berücksichtigen

berücksichtigen Sie bitte den folgenden Satz

betrachten is looking at something

[pallid gyro]

oh, alright

thanks a lot!

[urban dune]

Ein digitales Wörterbuch, das sie empfehlen?

[scenic drift]

i think there's a bunch in #resources ... dict.cc and leo are my usual ones

[sage tendon]

dict.cc für de<->en, dwds für de

[icy flax]

Steht dieses "verfahren" für "falsch"? Was glaubt ihr?
zB: https://www.dwds.de/wb/verfahren#2
Und groß ist unsere Erleichterung, wenn uns eine als verfahren erlebte Situation dann doch plötzlich günstige Auswege ermöglicht und sich alles sozusagen in Wohlgefallen auflöst.

[wise pendant]

In dem Kontext bedeutet das soviel wie "aussichtslos" in dem Sinne, dass man nicht weiter weißt, schon viel probiert hat, aber nichts zum Ziel führt.

[urban dune]

Danke schön

[icy flax]

Danke, feiner Herr André. Dass der Kosmos dich in seinem zufälligen Geschehen doppelt so viel bezahle

[wise pendant]

Die Ehre ist ganz meinerseits!

[pallid gyro]

What are the words that designate the gender and plurality/singularity of a word? 'Geschlecht und Zahl/Anzahl'?

e.g., "Was ist das Geschlecht und Anzahl des Wortes 'Schaden'"

[neat schooner]

Geschlecht stimmt für maennlich oder weiblich oder sächlich, und dann sagt man Einzahl oder Mehrzahl (Singular und Plural) @pallid gyro

[pallid gyro]

@neat schooner Vielen Dank!

[pallid gyro]

Sag man "er widerstand dem Drang zu schreien" oder benutzen wir 'dem Zwang'?

z.B. wenn die Person Angst hat

[weary sage]

Ich würde eher sagen "er unterdrückte das Bedürfnis zu schreien"

Oder mit widerstehen: "er widerstand dem Bedürfnis zu schreien"

[pallid gyro]

@weary sage Vielen Dank!!

[long whale]

Drang would be fine, it's like "urge". Zwang is when you're being forced to do something (whether from within or without), i.e. very, very hard to resist. :)

[pallid gyro]

oh alright noted, thank you!

[pallid gyro]

"Ich wünschte, ich könnte die Zeit zurückdrehen". Kann man hier stattdessen "ich wünsche" sagen ?

For 'I wish I could turn back time'

[swift bough]

No

[pallid gyro]

@swift bough alright, thank you!

[swift bough]

Np

[grizzled wadi]

accusative of "the bear" is "den Bären". Why does it have en? and is there other accusative nouns that have -en?

[pallid gyro]

das Herz, dem Herzen

@grizzled wadi there's no rule, some nouns are just irregular like that

[grizzled wadi]

ic

thanks

[long whale]

See faq N-Deklination in #botchannel :)

[fervent kernel]

@long whaledo Germans use Gram and grämen once in a while?

Er war schon seit Wochen in Gram versunken

[long whale]

Have you checked DWDS? ;)

Wortverlaufskurve...

[fervent kernel]

i appreciate that you are trying to teach me how to catch the fish myself 🙂

[long whale]

I'm probably not the right person to ask, since I do use "grämen" (if not the noun), but probably very few people do. :)

[long whale]

What a nice way of putting it. :)

[fervent kernel]

i guess every word that is used in the book has a Wortverlaufskurve like this

[long whale]

But, you know, it's just what I'd have to do if I wanted to know whether a word was still in use, resp. how common it was.

[fervent kernel]

ye it's a good idea to look after these curves, i might as well use them in my anki cards

[long whale]

Yeah, they do. But of course, it isn't much use when a word has more than one meaning (as many do), or if an otherwise obsolete word appears in a relatively frequently used collocation. 🤷

BTW, was that graph for the noun or for the verb? @fervent kernel

[fervent kernel]

apparently it was for the adjective

[long whale]

Ah yes - now, that one is pretty much obsolete.

[fervent kernel]

yep never heard that one being used before

but i heard the noun quite a few times

[long whale]

Yes, Gram/sich grämen have this additional component of regret that seems to be missing from Trauer/traurig sein/trauern.

[fervent kernel]

Do you any site where i can learn common idiomatic expressions or collocation by any chance?

[fervent kernel]

ah interesting. I've seen it being described as tiefer oder lang anhaltender Kummer.

[long whale]

Hmm... there is https://www.redensarten-index.de/suche.php?suchbegriff=~~aus aller Herren Laender %2F Laendern&suchspalte[]=rart_ou And it's really good for looking things up. But as to learning... a) I don't know any, I'd just google something like "Redewendungen" or "Redensarten" + "häufig gebraucht" or "üblich" - something like that. I'm not totally sure I'd recommend that, though. I mean, they do appear in books, newspapers, etc., but as to actively using them in speaking... Seems to me we don't do that much. 🤷

Those might be useful: https://www.programmwechsel.de/sprueche-zitate/deutsche-redewendungen-sprichwoerter.pdf

At least those I saw are indeed common, not just in writing. I'm sure knowing those, at least passively, would help. :)

[fervent kernel]

thx for that one, it's really great to look it up once i spot one in a text 👍

[long whale]

The explanations are a bit sparse in the 2nd link I sent - you may have to look up some of those separately, or ask about them here. :)@fervent kernel

[near folio]

dw hat eine Liste von Lektionen über übliche Redewendungen: https://www.dw.com/de/das-sagt-man-so/s-32376

[fervent kernel]

ye i will do that if neccessary, don't worry 🙂

[fervent kernel]

thx for that recommendation as well

[sage tendon]

Es gibt auch „Sprachbar“ für Fortgeschrittene

[pallid gyro]

"Er verliert den Bezug zur Realität", ist sie die richtige Präposition?

ich meine "He's losing his grip on reality"

[wise pendant]

👍

[pallid gyro]

Danke!

[fervent kernel]

Hast du Tomaten auf den Augen? Bedeutet soviel wie nicht darauf achten wo man hin geht, weil man unaufmerksam ist?

[wise pendant]

Im Grunde bedeutet das soviel wie "Bist du blind?"

[fervent kernel]

achso ok 🤔

[pallid gyro]

Gibt es einen Unterschied zwischen "Das ist aber unmöglich" und "Das ist jedoch unmöglich"?

z.B.:
-Wir sollten versuchen zu dieser Party eingeladen zu werden

-Das ist aber/jedoch unmöglich, weil der Gastgeber am selben Tag von einer Reise ankommt

[whole portal]

jedoch = however

[long whale]

We don't normally use "jedoch" in spoken German. Please note: ankommt zurückkommt

[pallid gyro]

noted, thanks to you both!

[whole portal]

It's uncommon

[coarse sparrow]

What does "indifferent" in "und dagegen ist ihr eigenes Wesen nicht indifferent" mean?

full sentence

Noch die authentischesten Kompositionen von Beethoven, wahrhaft, nach Hegels Wort, Entfaltung der Wahrheit, sind im Musikbetrieb zu Kulturgütern erniedrigt worden und beliefern die Konsumenten, außer mit Prestige, mit Emotionen, die sie selsbt nicht enthalten; und dagegne ist ihr eigenes Wesen nicht indifferent.

[wise pendant]

Seems to simply be an anglicism, that does not exist in German.

[coarse sparrow]

which one doesn't exist in German?

[mighty pebble]

Doch indifferent ist sehr wohl ein Wort

[wise pendant]

I mean ubiquitös also has a dictionary entry and I'd still argue most people never even heard of it.
But you're right. It's just used much more often in English.

[mighty pebble]

Naja wenn man Grundkenntnisse der Chemie hat kommt das schon ab und zu vor

Keine Ahnung wie es in Deutschland ist aber in Österreich hat man mindestens 3 Jahre Chemie normalerweise in seiner Schullaufbahn

[wise pendant]

Fachterminologie und bildungssprachliche Verwendung außerhalb der Chemie sind auch wieder zwei paar Schuhe.

[long whale]

*ubiquitär ;)

(Since I happen to be a fan, and know several more ;) )

[shut briar]

Ihre Erwartungen stimmten mit ihrer Realität überein.

Okay translation to their expectations aligned with their reality?

[wise pendant]

👍

But it's more "Die ... mit der ..."
instead of "ihre" which is "their"

[shut briar]

Oh my bad, i wanted to write their

[normal ravine]

hallo, so I'm kinda having trouble understanding one thing in german, well schön means beautiful right ? but why do we use schön to also say danke ?

[unique anvil]

no

you can say dankeschön

which is like,, thank you very much

but schön on its own always means beautiful

[normal ravine]

oh ok

danke

[tough rock]

Heute kann ich endlich meine Frage auf Deutsch stellen*
—> eine Frage stellen
—> conjugated verb in second position

„Dieser“ bezieht sich hier auf eine Person, die in einem vorherigen Satz genannt wurde und bedeutet soviel wie „er“

[sage tendon]

sind Sie Muttersprachler? @tough rock

[tough rock]

Ich verstehe nicht ganz?

[tough rock]

Ja

[sage tendon]

@amber plover Muttersprachler-Rolle bitte danke

[amber plover]

#850404908946423828

[fervent kernel]

what's a way to call a child/teen a troublemaker?

[wintry geode]

der Störenfried

[fervent kernel]

benutzt ihr auch rotzlöffel in deutschland?

[long whale]

Please don't ask the same question in more than one channel. It's unfair on the people trying to help, since they may not realize the question has already been answered/discussed elsewhere. :)

[wintry geode]

Thank you Susana, I didn't see it in #questions

[long whale]

Yeah... I think I'd be more likely to say this than "Schlingel". Again, I'd say this about a kid who was rude/impolite - not much to do with a troublemaker, at least in my opinion.

[fervent kernel]

ah kk

[fervent kernel]

@long whaleKann man sagen: Komm schon leg die Hand aufs Herz und erzähl mir genau was geschehen ist?

[long whale]

I suppose you could, yes. I'd say it's usually more used like "Hand auf's Herz! Ist es wirklich so gewesen?" or "Genau so war es, Hand auf's Herz!"

[fervent kernel]

i deleted others and send the question after few minutes because nobody answered

there never was multiple instances of the question in different channels

[fervent kernel]

alles klar:)

[coarse sparrow]

so you said that the word "indifferent" is not so likely used but in this text. So I've to understand what it means in this sentence

[long whale]

Same as in English. :)

[fervent kernel]

Ich bin nicht sicher
Ich bin mir nicht sicher

Which one is correct?

[mellow nova]

both but with the mir is more common

also might wanna change your nickname for this server x)

[tropic thistle]

the idiom for "in [x language]" usually uses "auf" in German, so Jess' correction is more idiomatic. The Duden has started to incorporate examples with in Deutsch although historically this has mostly seemed to be used when referring to German as a school subject.

For further discussion see here:https://german.stackexchange.com/questions/1748/wann-kann-man-in-deutsch-und-wann-auf-deutsch-verwenden

[night dagger]

hab wirklich nie „in Deutsch“ gesehen

oder gehört, was das angeht

[tropic thistle]

ich hätte es aus Bauchgefühl auch als falsch eingestuft, allerdings wenn der Duden der Brief ist in Deutsch geschrieben, abgefasst zitiert, müsste es auch zumindest als deskriptiv akzeptabel gelten

[wispy estuary]

Hey ! Ich habe eine Frage ^^ :
Sollte ich
" Es kommen viele Menschen "
sagen, oder :
" Es kommt viele Menschen " ?

[radiant comet]

es kommen viele menschen

[wispy estuary]

Okay, dankeschön !!

[radiant comet]

[west ruin]

Hello can u guys correct these phrases?

Jeder mensch muss die andere einhalten

Leztes jahr war ich in meheren ländern

Ich muss den beiden weinenden kindern helfen

Meine mutter hat viele geschichten zu erzählen

Vor solch einem preis werden alle dieses Handy kaufen

-> sind sie alle korrekt???

Dankeee

[scenic drift]

Please check the capitalisation :) that’s something you can easily check yourself.

[pallid gyro]

"Mit ein wenig Übung wird das Gespräch reibungslos verlaufen"; gibt es eine Regel die es erklärt warum "Mit ein wenig Übung" auf diese Weise dekliniert wird?

[west ruin]

Someone can explain the capitalisation? Warum sol es so sein?

Is it a random rule?

[pallid gyro]

it is a rule of german grammar that all nouns are capitalized

[west ruin]

For no Räson

[swift bough]

There‘s a very good reason

It’s because it’s German

[west ruin]

Jeder Mensch muss die andere einhalten

Leztes Jahr war ich in meheren Ländern

Ich muss den beiden weinenden Kindern helfen

Meine Mutter hat viele Geschichte zu erzählen

Alles korrekt?

Grammatikalisch?

[mellow nova]

It's to help the reader differentiate nouns from their very common exactly-the-same-word verb form

[icy flax]

beudeuten ab und aufgehalten dasselbe hier?

A: Bist du bereit?
B: Nein, keineswegs, aber das hat uns auch nie abgehalten

Im Untertitel steht trotzdem "aufgehalten".

[plush geode]

kind of, but "abgehalten" is better. Kind of hard to explain."Aufgehalten" would imply something or someone is the reason they couldn't do it. "Abgehalten" is more about, deciding no to do something.

but both is perfectly understandable is this sentence

[pallid gyro]

sort of like being held up, no?

[plush geode]

yes good example

[icy flax]

Ach ja. Bestätige bitte wenn ich das vestanden hab. Weil das Ding hier, das ihnen nie abgehalten hat, tatsächlich eine abstrakte Sache ist, nämlich das Bereitsein vom A, passt besser das abhalten. Aufhalten geht besser mit konkretischen Dingen.

[plush geode]

exakt 🙂

[noble yacht]

This isn't a name for a school.. do you have a context?

[noble yacht]

Depends on the context but sometimes you can translate it with ~improvement - does that help? // @copper cedar

[cerulean forum]

Anyone wants to talk in personal inbox??

[icy flax]

"Schick mal etwas weihnachtliches" ist nach der Rechtschreibung nicht richtig, oder? Es sollte *Weihnachtliches geschrieben sein.

[long whale]

geschrieben sein heißen :)

[small wind]

are there any mods or anything that might be able to help me
i have DID (dissociative identity disorder) and i have an alter that her native language is german (julia)
i was wondering if there was a way that i could possibly get maybe a role or have both heritage and native speaker or something like that.

[noble yacht]

So your one person but you want to have roles for 2 persons?

I don't think this is possible. Are you a native speaker?

[plain umbra]

You can discuss issues with mods by using #report-issue

[icy flax]

Oke, da komme ich schon mal wieder mit abstrakten Begriffen.

Sind Wohlbefinden und Wohlbehagen halt Synonyme? Dieses Buch, das ich gerade lese, scheint voller dieser Sätzen mit Synonyme gefüllt zu sein:

"..., was dem Menschen ein unmittelbares Wohlbefinden und Wohlbehagen beschert."

[fervent kernel]

@plain umbrawann hast du das letzte mal auf Wolke 7 geschwebt?

[long whale]

*bist ;)

[fervent kernel]

does this idiomatic expression require bist or did i do a grammatical error

[long whale]

Synonyms, yes, I suppose so. Seems to me the main difference is "Wohlbefinden" is in use, "Wohlbehagen" isn't. But that's something you can easily check for yourself by having a look at theire respective Wortverlaufskurven here: https://www.dwds.de/wb/Wohlbehagen ;)

[icy flax]

Ich vergesse immer die Kurven zu checkn, haha. Ich glaube, Du hast mich schon das tausende Mal darauf hingewiesen. 🤣
Danke, Susana! 🥺

[long whale]

Interesting question (now I come to think of it). 🤔 It just looked weird with "hast"... I'll try to find out, okay?

[fervent kernel]

alright do what you do best:)

[fierce idol]

I'd understand 'hast' as being above that cloud only basically whereas 'bist' would indicate a 'moving to that place for me'

Does that make sense to you, Susana?

[fervent kernel]

yeah but noone is in love or happy forever. It comes and goes

[fierce idol]

That sounds philosophical (and debatable) to me

However, I just understood Wolke 7 here as some 'place' actually

[fervent kernel]

In ihrer Jugend hatte sie oft auf Wolke 7 geschwebt. klingt doch richtig oder?

[fervent kernel]

Es ist diese Redewendung

just learned a new word from those example sentences

[long whale]

Um... if you look at that thing you posted, it shows "sein" after auf Wolke sieben schweben - and no, it doesn't sound right to me with "hatte". 🤷

[fervent kernel]

ye this means there are 2 different variants. One is auf Wolke sieben schweben, while the other is auf Wolke sieben sein

you can say. Ich bin auf Wolke sieben

Ich schwebe auf Wolke sieben

[fervent kernel]

ohh i guess it doesn't sound right to you because you can't really use the Plusquamperfekt here without having a Referenzpunkt in der Vergangenheit

[wise pendant]

That's the Low German word for "heben"

[fervent kernel]

do you hear it being used in your daily life a lot?

[wise pendant]

It's used here and there

[delicate tiger]

(mainly for heavy things, but not small things)

[ancient pulsar]

can you check please?

hast

[hollow ether]

All's good, but you have the wrong verb conjugation for the second

[ancient pulsar]

2nd one

[hollow ether]

Yes

[ancient pulsar]

danke

[pallid gyro]

"Er ist zu jung um mitreden zu können" Könnte ich hier im gesprochenen Deutsch "um" weglassen?

[noble yacht]

Nein, geht auch im gesprochenen nur mit "um".

[pallid gyro]

achso, Danke!

[pallid gyro]

Gibt es einen großen Unterschied zwischen "Reibe dir nie die Augen mit schmutzigen Hände" und "Reibe dir nie mit schmutzigen Hände die Augen"?

[long whale]

*Händen - No. :)

[pallid gyro]

whoops hehe, Danke schön!

[icy flax]

"Da habe ich zum ERSTEN MAL tatsächlich auch Tee dabei und dann trinkt sie Kaffee...
Kannste dir nicht ausdenken"
^ das ist ein Kommentar auf ein Video vom MaiLab, dessen Präsentatorin dafür höchste bekannt ist, um die Videos mit einem solchen Motto anzufangen: 'holt euch einen Tee, wir steigen durch'

Ich verstehe die Bedeutung vom letzten Satz nicht. Wieso "you can't come up with that"? Ist das ein Meme?

[long whale]

More like "You couldn't have made it up (it's so strange/absurd/funny)", I'd say. Does that help?

[icy flax]

Alle deiner Antworten helfen uns! :)
Ist es dann ein Ding, das man einfach sagt, wenn eine Geschichte erzählt wird und es kaum zu glauben ist, wie sie alle so zufällig/merkwürdig war?

Ich glaub, ich hab jz "das Gefühl" verstanden.

[long whale]

*wie merkwürdig sie war - Yes, exactly. :)

[paper mango]

O

[pallid gyro]

Wird "I need your consent for the time being." übersetzte als "Ich brauche vorest deine Zustimmung", oder benutzt man 'vorläufig' anstatt 'vorerst'?

(Außerdem, benutzt man hier oben 'anstatt' oder 'statt'? hehe)

[long whale]

🤔 I believe the word you're looking for is "zunächst" - "statt" is fine. :)

[pallid gyro]

thanks! and thanks for answering so many of my questions hehe

[fervent kernel]

are there better ways to say fasziniert?

i think it sounds too emotional idk

and saying "ich bin von dir interessiert" sounds to me like it means romantically interested

like you see a particular cover of a book, you say "i'm intrigued by it"

or along those lines

[long whale]

Well, ich bin von dir interessiert doesn't work, anyway. What exactly are you trying to say if you aren't romantically interested in the person you're fascinated by? :)

[fervent kernel]

like imagine a 90 years old sailor

that knows a lot of stories

and you want to talk to him because you want to listen to him

i'm not sure you would tell such person "ich bin von ihnen faziniert"

[long whale]

Find something else to be fascinated by: Ich finde Ihr Leben/Ihre Erlebnisse/Ihre Lebensgeschichte/Ihre Geschichten faszinierend

[pallid gyro]

DeepL sagt "I had a soothing massage" wird "Ich hatte eine wohltuende Massage" übersetzt. Aber, ist im letzteren Fall nicht die Konnotation gegeben, dass es Besitz von etwas gibt?

[long whale]

🤔 And what makes you think that?

Using "to have"? Yes, come to think of it, I'd rather say "Ich habe... bekommen" :)

[pallid gyro]

oh I just didn't know whether 'haben' can be understood as 'to receive'

[pallid gyro]

ah right

thanks!

[ancient pulsar]

Wir müssen zu jenem Ort gehen.
Jene Frau, die ich gestern im Restaurant getroffen habe, ist Ärztin.

I guess jen- is not used much nowadays. Are these sentences correct?

I think the second one is not

[arctic lily]

the second is im pretty sure

[ancient pulsar]

oh ok, then maybe not natural

[arctic lily]

and so is the first, its just not very specific

[arctic lily]

yeah theres definitely other ways of saying both of them, but youre not incorrect

[ancient pulsar]

i heard jen- is not used at all in spoken German

Also, the explanation for jen- was that it is used to indicate something distant

Warst du an jenem Abend dort? — Were you there on that evening?

here it is used to indicate time. Would diesem fit this context? Or would jenem be more preferable

[arctic lily]

theyre both basically the same thing so i feel like whatever would be okay, i dont know much about words like that so maybe do some googling? just to see which one is more correct, seeing as theyre both right (im pretty sure)

[ancient pulsar]

dies- refers to something that is spatially or temporally closer.

jene- points to something that is spatially or temporally distant.

i believe there is no strict line that divides them

[arctic lily]

oh, in that sense i would go with diesem, it would make a bit more sense

[ancient pulsar]

what if the context was were you there on that evening (10 year ago or smth)

[arctic lily]

since "dies" is closer and "jene" is distant, you would use jene

[ancient pulsar]

yeah i assumed so

[arctic lily]

mhm

[ancient pulsar]

vielen Dank

[arctic lily]

gerne geschehen :)

[autumn marsh]

Frau Müller und Frau Schmidt sitzen im Café. Diese ist sauer, jene gut gelaunt.

it's constructed and makes little sense, but it's easier to showcase the concept when the sentences are very simple.
"diese" would refer to Frau Schmidt, "jene" to Frau Müller.

it's correct to assume that it's very seldomly used in spoken language.

in general the usage is pretty much identical to "diese", there is no real need to differentiate between "far and distant":

"In dieser Nacht vor 80 Jahren starb etwas in ihr."
"In jener Sekunde, in der er sich vorbeugte, um sie zu küssen, scheute sie zurück."

however, it is used to refer to different things in a sentence or the sentence before, like I did in the initial example. you will encounter this in more advanced books where you then will have to know that 'jene' refers to something further away.

and when saying that it's pretty much identical to "diese", don't take that as "oh, I can substitute them!" - don't. you will sound silly very quickly 😅 there is no need for that. learn fix phrases, otherwise there's little use for it unless you want to write in German.

@ancient pulsar @arctic lily

a good one to know is "dieses und jenes", meaning "this and that", pretty much identical to: "dies und das"

was hast du die letzten Jahre gemacht? - Dieses und Jenes ... alles mögliche.

[ancient pulsar]

The this or/and that rule you mentioned is also explained here

and yes even though there are some rules, fixed phrases are also necessary as you said

[ancient pulsar]

this looks like The former/the latter

is that it?

or is there another word for that

In jener Sekunde... i believe this is one of the fixed phrases

[long whale]

Yup. der/die/das Erstere, resp. Erstere/r/s and der/die/das Letztere, resp. Letztere/r/s :)

[long whale]

🤔 Not really. Not to my knowledge. :)

[ancient pulsar]

wow that is interesting

thank you guys

[icy flax]

Ich hab diese Passage eines Videos schnell transkribiert und habe zwei Fragen:
"20 ng/ml wäre wünschenswert, unter 12 und über 50 wird's jeweils kritisch. Wer langfristig solche Werte hat, hat erhöhtes Risiko für Mangel bzw. Überschuss.
– wobei solche Werte immer mit einer gewissen Unsicherheit versehen sind"

1- Ist "jeweils" da, weil ein Satz gleich danach mit "Mangel bzw. Überschuss" kommt?
2- könnte "wobei" gegen "bei denen sind solche Werte (...)" oder noch "dabei sind solche Werte (...)" ohne Bedeutungsunterschied ausgetauscht werden?
Die 2. Frage kommt daher, dass ich einmal iwo gelesen hab, dass "wobei" manchmal für "obwohl" stehe. Allerdings erinnere ich mich nicht an einem einzigen Mal, wenn solcher Tausch ||wobei gegen obwohl|| gegolten hat.

(bitte, kein Zögern mein Deutsch zu korrigieren, oder noch bessere Wörter vorzuschlagen)

[long whale]

unter 12 und über 50 wird's jeweils kritisch = both below 12 and above 50... @icy flax

2 - dabei sind... 👍 bei denen sind... 👎

[icy flax]

Vielen Dank, @long whale! Feel free to correct anything you feel like.

[shut briar]

How did begründen come to mean both to reason and to establish

Gründen has gründ in it so i just assumed it meant to reason but it doesn't

[scenic drift]

from wiktionary:

From Middle High German begründen (“to found", "solidify”). The figurative meaning of reason comes from Grund.

[shut briar]

Well i thought that'd help. From today's senses meanings ate so different....

Anfang August 1945 begründeten die Alliierten einen Internationalen Militärgerichtshof zur Verurteilung von Kriegsverbrechen, Verbrechen gegen die Menschlichkeit und Verbrechen gegen den Frieden. Der Militärgerichtshof sollte im Justizpalast Nürnberg tagen.

Like how is one supposed to know which meaning was intended here

[shut briar]

What is the figurative meaning of reason?

[scenic drift]

the figurative meaning, of "reason", ...

[long whale]

🤔 The Allied Forces couldn't very well have "reasoned" a court of law, could they? Also, for it to mean "to give a reason for something" it would have to be "etwas (Akk) mit etwas begründen". That said, "begründen" seems an unusual choice here. We usually use "gründen/gründeten" for "to found, to establish". :)

[hollow ether]

When using a letter as a short form to describe something, do you use "das" or the gender of the word it's short for?
For example, T is used often for 'die' Temperatur, atleast in science.
Would one say: "Die T heute ist 20°C" or "Das T heute ist 20°C" ?

Thank u

[ancient pulsar]

damn today i woke up at 8 am and the first thing that came to my mind was, did i thank the other guy?

now i edited it tho

[dapper lion]

Hi! I'm still a bit confused with kein and nicht.

I understand kein is mostly used for nouns with ein/eine and nouns with not preceded by any articles.

For this example:

Er spielt Tennis
Would it be nicht? Er spielt nicht Tennis as it doesn't fit the two category of kein?

And what are common "unpreceded article nouns" other than a language?

[loud rampart]

Yes, it is nicht in that case because you negate "spielen".

Collective nouns like Obst, Gemüse, Besteck or abstract things like Musik, Ruhe, Stress. Also jobs like "Sie ist Pilotin".

[hollow ether]

It's correct

Yes

Yes, and also that it is in the "boosters"

The reaction is happening in the boosters*

I did nothing, you figured it out yourself 😛

Yea

[fervent kernel]

How does this idiom go again? "It gives some food for thoughts"??

[scenic drift]

"it gives me food for thought"

[fervent kernel]

Aaah, I see. Thanks :)

[icy flax]

Jemand erklärt einem Schüler etwas und er sagt: "das kriege ich noch mal an"
ich kannte nur "hinkriegen" als umgangssprachlichen Synonym zu "schaffen". Ist ankriegen auch so?

[long whale]

👀 Unless this is a brand new slang word, it doesn't make sense.

[icy flax]

i might have heard wrongly then. But "hinkriegen" you heard before, haven't you, Susana?

[long whale]

Sure.

[near folio]

https://www.dwds.de/wb/ankriegen

gibt's mehr Kontext?

[swift bough]

I heard it pretty often myself in Germany

[icy flax]

sie sind in Study Group 3 haha. Die Kontext war halt nur das was ich gesagt hab, glaub ich.

befürchte ich

[icy flax]

yeah yeah, "hinkriegen" I know. Have you heard "ankriegen" as well?

[swift bough]

Never

[long whale]

ankriegen in the sense of hinkriegen? Seriously?

[swift bough]

No

Hinkriegen in General

I don’t even know what ankriegen is

Tbh

[icy flax]

ok, that's what we said before

i must have misheard it

[long whale]

"to be able to put something on", as in Ich kriege die Schuhe nicht an. Sind meine Füße größer geworden? The other meaning (to ask for something) I'd never heard of before.

[icy flax]

sorry the fuss, everyone!

[swift bough]

But I was responding to this „hinkriegen you heard before“

Which isn’t referring to ankriegen at all there I thought

[icy flax]

oh, I thought u had mispinged it

[swift bough]

Ohhh ok actually I do know it then

You just rarely hear it not separated as ankriegen though

And yep same never heard the other meaning before

[fossil hamlet]

Anybody know a good way to memorise the cases?

Ping pls

[scenic drift]

what do you mean by memorize the cases?

[fossil hamlet]

Like when to use which word

Dativ, Akkusativ and Nominativ

I know how they work but struggle to memorise it

[scenic drift]

uhm, i'm not sure what you'd be memorizing specifically

have you read through >faq cases in #botchannel ? 🤔

like, if you need something to memorize, then i guess what case each preposition takes / what cases some verbs take?

[fossil hamlet]

This is what I mean

[swift bough]

The best way to memorize it I think is just with lots and lots of practice

You could make Anki cards, but @scenic drift would know more about that

[scenic drift]

yeah, i think that declension table specifically comes with practice

you can also use flashcards 😉

[swift bough]

It’s not the hardest thing in German to memorize tbh, but it does just come with practice

[fervent kernel]

What's the reason for these variations?

What?

My question was deleted?

Huh i thought you deleted it yourself

No

There were a couple mistakes btw

Welchen Film and Welche Sprachen

Ok

But why does welchen change to welche, and jede to jedes?

Adjectiv Deklination

There's a big table for that for every particular case

Ok

Start by memorizing that it just comes with practice

I think I can search this

I'll come back if I have any question

[jaunty monolith]

Hallo allerseits, ich habe diese Frage schon gestern in questions gepostet, habe aber bisher keine Antwort darauf bekommen, also dachte ich mir, es wäre sinnvoll wenn ich die Frage auch hier stellen würde. Und zwar lautet die Frage wie folgt:

Was wäre die beste Übersetzung für den Begriff "I'm intrigued" im folgenden Zusammenhang:

Ein Freund hat mir ein Video von einer Musikerin, die er mag, verschickt und bat um meine Meinung. Meine Antwort darauf lautete: "I'm intrigued" und damit meine ich, dass "the song piqued my interest"

[long whale]

verschickt geschickt - You could either just say "Faszinierend!" or "Das hat mich neugierig gemacht" (i.e. I'd like to see more of her stuff) Does that help? :)

[jaunty monolith]

Yes, thanks!

[slim yew]

why is it wrong

[fossil hamlet]

Why did my wife leave me

[wise pendant]

It is ok to be sad. You shouldn't hide your sorrow and grief and allow yourself to feel every last emotion that crosses your mind.
But always remember no matter what or why it happened you are still the same great guy you always were and before you lie some of your greatest years.
Take this opportunity and when you feel ready again why not pick up a hobby you always thought about starting and meeting new people.
I wish you the very best, Galuxe! 😃

(Just as a heads up, It's not a German language related question btw though, so next time try to keep channel content on topic)

[fossil hamlet]

Uhhh

I was joking

Thanks though

[wise pendant]

Sarcasm doesn't translate well over text, yk 😄

[fossil hamlet]

True

I appreciate the effort you put in to type all that

👍

[autumn marsh]

what Teleskop does that refer to?

the webb telescope?

if so, the telescope is consider to be a bigger object, it does not refer to the sensor itself but the whole thing together with all antennas and radiantion shield and whatnot

so it's like: "An Bord des Zugs befinden sich alle benötigten Instrumente", or: "An Bord des Autos befinden sich alle benötigten Instrumente"

just like "on board" in english

[fervent kernel]

what do we have to do in this

[wise pendant]

Playing mini dialogues with the written words, say retten, surfen, etc in the same way as the example on top

[fervent kernel]

so we need to make dialogs out of these words right under ebenso mit right?

[wise pendant]

as far as I understand it, yes

[fervent kernel]

ben: ich mag reiten, magst du auch reiten? stefan: Ja!ich mag auch reiten (is this a correct example)

[scenic drift]

please don't post the same question in both questions channels 👀

[fervent kernel]

ohh k srry

[scenic drift]

how does this match with the example you're given in the textbook?

[fervent kernel]

?

[scenic drift]

the point is that you need to make a similar dialog to the "Minidialoge" above the "ebenso mit", but with the words e.g. "reiten -> Reitkurs"

you can think of the mini dialog as being "schwimmen -> Schwimmkurs"

[fervent kernel]

ohh k so we need to make words out of reitkurs and surfkurs

[scenic drift]

uhm, words? 🤔 a dialog.

[fervent kernel]

ohh yes my bad

[scenic drift]

yes, then. try with reiten / Reitkurs.

[fervent kernel]

ohh k thank you so much

[autumn marsh]

it works, but it's very much not idiomatic.

100% correct would be:

"ich mag es zu reiten. Magst du es auch, zu reiten?" > Ja, ich mag es auch zu reiten.

in common speech, that'd be shortened to:

"Ich mag reiten. Magst du reiten auch?" > Ja, ich mag reiten auch.

Note the position of auch in that case, it changes

[fervent kernel]

Ohhh ok thank you so much

[boreal apex]

der Hund geht nach draußen
der Hund geht draußen

which is correct ?

[wise pendant]

both technically

[boreal apex]

when do we use nach then?

https://tenor.com/view/white-guy-blinking-drew-scanlon-what-whut-wat-gif-15689695

[wise pendant]

nach draußen -> going from inside to the outside
draußen -> already being outside and doing the action of going

[pseudo cradle]

können Sie einen Satz sagen?

[wise pendant]

Ich renne draußen -> I'm running (in the) outside
Ich renne nach draußen -> I'm running (to the) outside

[pseudo cradle]

Herzlichen dank!

[wise pendant]

Gerne!

[scenic drift]

(psst: on the internet you can use "du" 😉 )

[pseudo cradle]

uh ok

that's better

[fervent kernel]

Btw whats the difference between hinaus and nach draußen?
Jetzt gehe ich hinaus
Jetzt gehe ich nach draußen

[wise pendant]

"nach draußen" is more colloquial

[fervent kernel]

Okk

Coloquial?

[icy flax]

less formal, slang-ish.

Könnt ihr euch eine Antwort zu "Alles fit im Schritt?" vorstellen, die reimt und Sinn ergibt?

Bislang bin ich darauf gekommen:
jz schon lit mit deinem schönen Eintritt

Bedaulicher musste ich ein Wort auf Englisch reinschieben. T.T
Ich rechne mit euren klugen Köpfen! :)

[fervent kernel]

Oh ok

Hi how would you say going down ( the stairs or smthing )?
And is there difference between: rabgehen and runtergehen?

[ancient aspen]

rabgehen? Meinst du herabgehen oder was meinst du?

und man sagt einfach nur (he)runtergehen

[fervent kernel]

Hinabgehen

Cant i say just rabgehen?

[ancient aspen]

no you can't say rabgehen (this just don't exists)

[fervent kernel]

So only hinabgehen

So is there diff between hinabgehen and runtergehen? And which is used for going down. @ancient aspen

[ancient aspen]

there's not quite a difference but you would use (he)runtergehen because it's way more colloquial

[fervent kernel]

Ok thank you

So hinabgehen is more formal

[sage tendon]

@copper cedar

dict.cc and Reverso Context

[pallid gyro]

Say you're ordering food at a drive by, you ask the employee a moment to think about it and the employee tells you, no problem, "When you're ready, I'll take your order." Is the correct translation for this "Wann Sie bereit sind, nehme ich Ihre Bestellung auf" or "Wenn Sie fertig sind, nehme ich Ihre Bestellung auf"?

[long whale]

I'd say "Wenn Sie soweit sind, nehme ich Ihre Bestellung auf" :)

[pallid gyro]

In Ordnung, Danke!

[pallid gyro]

Sagt man, "Die Kinder sind dem Einfluß ihrer Mutter entwachsen", oder "haben dem Einfluß ihrer Mutter entwachsen"?

[umbral kayak]

*sind

*und Einfluss nich mit ß sonder doppel s

[pallid gyro]

ach so, Danke schön!

[shut briar]

German alternative for some better than none?

[long whale]

looking at the few things on offer: "[Das ist] B/besser als nichts."

@shut briar

[pallid gyro]

Sagt man: Er spürte ein Jucken im Nacken oder am Nacken? (oder auf dem Nacken?)

[glad talon]

im Nacken

[pallid gyro]

Nochmals vielen Dank!

[glad talon]

bitteschön, es ist schön, wenn man jemandem helfen kann

[fervent hollow]

What are y'all's goals for learning German?

[pallid gyro]

Hegel lesen

[fervent hollow]

Was ist Hegel? Ich habe noch nie davon gehört

[pallid gyro]

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georg_Wilhelm_Friedrich_Hegel

[fervent hollow]

Hmm

[pallid gyro]

Bedeutet "Er verlor die Besinnung" immer, dass der Bettrefende bewusstlos ist, oder kann es auch bedeuten, dass er verrückt ist?

[noble yacht]

Kann beides bedeuten, wie du bereits gesagt hast. Hängt - wie gesagt - vom Kontext ab ^^

[pallid gyro]

Danke schön!

[pallid gyro]

"Er bat uns inständig, unsere Strategie zu überdenken.", z.B., nach einem Schlag im Krieg. Kann man hier andere Wörter statt 'überdenken' benutzen, wenn wir 'to reconsider' meinen? Oder wäre das die übliche Übersetzung?

[fervent veldt]

Was meint man, wann er in der Mitte des Satzes "nämlich" sagen?

Macht meine Frage Sinn?

[pastel pagoda]

"Nämlich" hat kein schönes Äquivalent im Englischen, aber manchmal bedeutet es "namely"

[pallid gyro]

@fervent veldt also often like used like 'indeed'

[pastel pagoda]

Nämlich wird auch verwendet, um eine Tatsache zu betonen würde ich sagen, wie in dem Satz hier:

Fliegen sind keine Tiere, das hat mir nämlich unser Lehrer gesagt

[pastel pagoda]

In welchem Zusammenhang denn? Mir fällt kein Satz ein, wo "nämlich" diesselbe Bedeutung hat wie "indeed"

[wise pendant]

nämlich is turning a sentence into an explanation sort of. In the sense of "You probably didn't know so let me explain".

[pallid gyro]

@pastel pagoda "Wie Sie andeuten, ist das Fischereimaterial nämlich der Grund, warum wir so viel bezahlen."

"As you suggest, the fishing material is indeed the reason why we pay so much."

nicht richtig?

[pastel pagoda]

Wo hast du den Satz her?

[pallid gyro]

ich habe ihn erfunden, aber es könnte nicht richtig sein