questions-2

[whole portal]

anstelle I use only with Genitiv

And anstatt I use with Akkusativ

no von

Okay I also found a Genitiv usage

[gusty silo]

did you check anstatt + predicate rather than anstatt + noun?
Anstelle [den Genitiv zu benutzen], sure, but on its own anstelle des Genitives/anstelle vom Genitiv rather than anstelle den Genitiv, i'd assume?

[earnest night]

So it's majority of genitiv prepositions can be used with dativ??

[gusty silo]

yes yes

you just have to be careful whether you have to add a von or not

[earnest night]

Wait one more question,

Is there Außerhalb von??

[whole portal]

yeah with noun it's Genitiv

[gusty silo]

yeah

ugh i mixed up anstelle and anstatt myself now lol

but yeah

but what yoshi demonstrates: you don't have to avoid the genitive at all costs in regular speech

[earnest night]

Aight thanks yall!!

[whole portal]

The whole "Genitiv is dead/rare/weird" thing is overhyped tbh, most (native) people use it all the time even if not super consistently

[gusty silo]

i'm inclined to agree, for learners it's probably a good corrective though when it comes to expressing possession

[whole portal]

Also often Genitiv is one word less :p

[gusty silo]

you can save one more if you go mega oldfashioned and write der Lampen Licht rather than das Licht der Lampen

[fervent kernel]

Sicher sind Plastikverpackungen der verbreitetste umweltschädlicher Stoff, aber andere Materialen, die wir täglich benutzen, sind viel mehr schädlicher als Plastik; man schenkt denen nicht so viel Aufmerksamkeit, weil ihre Auswirkungen mit bloßem Auge nicht so auffällig sind.
mit bloßem Auge Is this... "Redemittel" only used if you are talking about something that can be seen in real life or can it be used as I am using it on the Text?

If I wrote something in an awkwardly way or simply incorrectly I would also appreciate if someone corrects it ^^

[delicate tiger]

"Sicher sind Plastikverpackungen der verbreitetste umweltschädliche Stoff, aber andere Materialen, die wir täglich benutzen, sind viel schädlicher als Plastik; man schenkt denen aber nicht so viel Aufmerksamkeit, weil ihre Auswirkungen nicht direkt offensichtlich sind."

[fervent kernel]

May I ask why is in bloßem Augen not appropriate?

What is the difference between that and "offensichtlich" ?

By the way, thanks for the correction.

[south zenith]

mit bloßem Auge to me sounds like 'with the naked eye' which in english usually means without the need for magnification like a telescope or microscope
im not positive if the definition correlations the same into german tho

[fervent kernel]

Yea, that is what I thought too xD

English and German are often similar

[south zenith]

yea, and that expression wouldnt fit with an english translation of the text either so itd make sense to not fit

[hushed dawn]

Was ist der Präpositionaladverbien von "gegenüber" ??

[plain umbra]

The only thing is demgegenüber. But can't say I ever saw it used.

[hushed dawn]

Gibt es einen Weg, die präpositionen von Nomen/Adjektive zu wissen oder raten ?
Auch Jede Tipps/Hilfe dabei ?

[magic wave]

When do you decide to use ,,mögen'' or ,,gefallen"?

[near folio]

https://yourdailygerman.com/moegen-gern-gefallen-difference/

[magic wave]

danke schön

[cyan vapor]

hyy everyone

[brave flint]

Welcher Satz ist richtig oder klingt am besten?

a) Durch die IT-Technik kann man von zu Hause aus arbeiten genauso gut wie im Büro.
b) Durch die IT-Technik kann man von zu Hause aus genauso gut wie im Büro arbeiten.
c) Durch die IT-Technik kann man von zu Hause aus genauso gut arbeiten wie im Büro.

[wise pendant]

c - Umgangssprachlich vermutlich die häufigste
b - könnte vermutlich die grammatikalisch "richtigste" Form sein also schriftsprachlich präsenter
a - auch in der Umgangssprache anzutreffen aber vermutlich seltener

[brave flint]

Würdest du dann empfehlen, dass ich b benutze, wenn ich meinem Professor einen Aufsatz schreiben muss?

[wise pendant]

Ja

[brave flint]

Danke! 🙂

Noch eine Frage: Welchen Unterschied gibt es unter diesen Sätzen?
a) Hätte ich doch einen tollen Job hier in der Stadt!
b) Würde ich doch einen tollen Job hier in der Stadt finden!
c) Fände ich doch einen tollen Job hier in der Stadt!

In meinem Grammatiktrainer gibt es eine Übung zu irreale Wunschsätze. Meine Aufgabe war diesen Satz umzuformulieren:
Ich wünsche mir sehr, dass ich einen tollen Job hier in der Stadt finde.
Meine Lösung war a. Die Lösungen des Buches sind b und c.
Warum ist a keine mögliche Lösung?

[dawn oxide]

Ich denke mal, weil der Satz sich auf finden bezieht. Die Person wünscht sich einen Job zu finden, in a) sagst du ja nur 'hätte ich doch..' ohne finden

[brave flint]

ach sooo, das macht Sinn. Danke! 🙂

[hushed dawn]

trauen vs heiraten ?

[plush pelican]

trust versus marry?

[whole portal]

trauen is the formal process

heiraten is the whole thing

[plush pelican]

Which part is "the formal process"?

[whole portal]

Partner 1 heiratet Partner 2

Standesbeamter(/Pfarrer etc.) traut das Paar

[fervent kernel]

Macht dieser Satz euch Sinn? 🤔

ich denke mir die Risiken nicht

[plush pelican]

I think for me the risks not

[fervent kernel]

I said that once as a reflex. Idk what I thought at that time, but now I wonder if it makes sense

I wanted to say: I don't take the risks into account

[whole portal]

the part where you sign a piece of paper and are formally declared as married (or the equivalent thing in someones religion)

[plush pelican]

So it's just the signing of the paper, or does the priest talking in front of everybody and saying, "You may now kiss the bride" etc count as part of the formal part?

[whole portal]

that's arguably up to the people involved

[plush pelican]

What do you mean?

Du kannst es auch auf Deutsch erklären, wenn das einfacher ist.

[whole portal]

maybe it gets clearer when you look at the grammar, trauen is something done to the couple, heiraten is done by it. In Germany, all you need to get married is go the Standesamt and sign some stuff (well plus the burocracy) a lot of people also want a formal ceremony in a church or by an Imam or whatever, then that part would also be considered trauen in that context. (from anvertrauen = entrusting [the woman to the man]). Heiraten is all the celebration, preparation, etc.

[plush pelican]

Are there scenarios where people have a formal ceremony but it doesn't count as part of the Trauung?

[whole portal]

uh

[plush pelican]

Or are you saying that a formal ceremony is optional, but whenever it is done, it's a part of the Trauung?

[whole portal]

everything where someone declares you married is Trauung, really, no matter what exactly it looks like so yeah

[plush pelican]

you see how that's confusing, though. I asked if the "you may now kiss the bride" stuff counts, and you said, "it depends on the people involved"

rather than, "Yes, but not everyone has that"

[whole portal]

I meant to say that, sorry if it didn't come through at first

[plush pelican]

Btw, I have another question: Do you use "wenn" or "wann" here?

She can't tell the difference between when she's hot or when the room is hot.

Sie kann nicht dazwischen unterscheiden, wenn(?) ihr heiß ist oder wenn(?) das Zimmer heiß ist.

[whole portal]

wann

[plush pelican]

I thought I knew the difference, but DeepL says wann, so apparently I don't know the difference 😅

What about, "She can't tell the difference between whether she's hot or whether the room is hot."? That'd be "ob", right?

[whole portal]

wenn would mean that she's unable to differentiate [no object] while she's either hot or the room is

Yes ob works

[plush pelican]

She isn't able to differentiate

All she can tell is that something is hot, but not if it's her or the room

[whole portal]

yes but see where I put [no object]

[plush pelican]

yeah, so if I drop "dazwischen"?

[whole portal]

If you say it like that it loses its connection to the other half of the sentence

[plush pelican]

?

[whole portal]

like we could replace the verb

Sie kann nicht dazwischen laufen, wenn(?) ihr heiß ist oder wenn(?) das Zimmer heiß ist.

[plush pelican]

Can you use "wenn" and still have "unterscheiden"?

Sie kann nicht unterscheiden, wenn ihr heiß ist oder wenn das Zimmer heiß ist.

[whole portal]

no that doesn't work, like I said if this was "Sie kann nicht laufen, wenn ihr heiß ist oder wenn das Zimmer heiß ist." that would mean she isn't unable to walk while she or the room are hot. likewise it would only say that she isn't able to perform the act of differentiating, between whatever, it doesn't say, under those conditions.

[plush pelican]

oh, I see what you mean

This is hard, since "when" is just one word in English 😅

[whole portal]

trying to find a good matching sentence rn

[plush pelican]

Der Computer kann nicht unterscheiden, wenn ihm heiß ist.

Because it's overheated 🤣

[whole portal]

wann and wenn are pretty distinct in which sorts of verbs they come with tbh

it's difficult to make sentence that has two meanings by just swapping them where one of them doesn't sound very constructed and unnatural

pretty sure the type of clause that follows wenn/wann is different but idk enough about grammar to figure out what exactly it is

[plush pelican]

well, thanks anyway 👍

[atomic saffron]

Can I ask a very basic question

Is this grammatically correct "Viele Leute in Deutschland konnen English sprechen"

[plush pelican]

"können Englisch sprechen"

with languages, you just say "können" + the language, the "sprechen" is implied

Ich kann Englisch.
Wir können Deutsch.
Sie können Italienisch.

[atomic saffron]

Dankeschön

Okay I have one more very basic sentence and that's it for today

"Ich denke Deutschland ist ein schönes Land, und ich würde gerne dort leben. "

[acoustic breach]

"Ich denke,", with a komma

Otherwise I don't see any error

[proven sphinx]

I'm pretty sure the comma is optional if there's no conjunction like "dass" afterwards.

[acoustic breach]

Ach so

[proven sphinx]

Or maybe not. LOL.

I'm very good with commas, but that's one thing even I'm unsure about...

[acoustic breach]

Hmm you made me doubt myself 😅😂

[undone verge]

I think this one is not optional, but am also not that good

[proven sphinx]

I think in the end, you can see it like this: If there are multiple conjugated verbs (Personalformen), then they need to be separated by a comma. If it's a non-finite verb, then the comma is often optional.

Thus: "Ich hoffe(,) dir geholfen zu haben" but "Ich denke, er ist ein toller Kerl."

[shut briar]

https://youtu.be/szxuKzypNyE

Übersetzung ist wirklich cool finde ich. In dieser Episode gibt es ein Flashback von Doofensmirtz und in der Originalen spricht sein Vater Deutsch und da es schon auf Deutsch ist, spricht er in einer anderen Sprache. Also war ich neugierig, welche Sprache es ist. 4:45

Habt ihr Ahnung?

[velvet venture]

Gib mir mal den Zeitstempel

Dann seh ich mir das mal an

Ah, 4:45

Ich seh’s erst jetzt

@shut briar Bei 4:45 spricht aber niemand in einer anderen Sprache …

[shut briar]

Was? Meinst du das ist Deutsch? Wenn Nicht Bewegen auf dem Bildschirm geschrieben wird?

[velvet venture]

@shut briar Du musst dich beim Zeitstempel vertan haben

[shut briar]

Ach Entschuldigung, Die Zeit läuft zurück bei mir

Warte mal

[plush pelican]

Here?

That's 4:45

[shut briar]

Also es ist 5:13

[velvet venture]

Moment

Ich versteh kein Wort davon. Es ist eine Sprache, die ich nicht spreche

[shut briar]

Ach so

[plush pelican]

Was für einen Akzent hat der Mann, der die Geschichte erzählt?

[shut briar]

Gute Frage

[velvet venture]

Doktor Doofenschmirtz?

Seine Aussprache ist sehr nahe dem Hochdeutschen, bis auf seine gerollten R …

[plush pelican]

Ich habe den Cartoon nie angeschaut, also kenne ich seinen Namen nicht 😄

[velvet venture]

Er ist der Bösewicht in der Serie

[plush pelican]

Das ist überraschend; Meines Erachtens klingt es, als hätte er irgendeinen ausländischen Akzent

[shut briar]

Es ist allerdings sehr interessant. Nämlich spricht Doofenshmirtz in der Originale auf einem Deutschen Akzent. Das erfundene Land ähnelt auch dem klischeehaften mittelalterlichen Deutschland.

[velvet venture]

Du siehst mich überrascht.

[plush pelican]

What does that mean? "You see me surprised"?

[shut briar]

Also welchem Land ist der Fiktive Ort in der deutschen Version nachempfunden ist

[velvet venture]

Yes.

[plush pelican]

In English, that doesn't really mean anything

[velvet venture]

It’s an elevated way of saying you’re suprised

[plush pelican]

Der Sprecher ist überrascht?

[velvet venture]

Jup.

[plush pelican]

ach so 🤔

[shut briar]

Curious phrase

[velvet venture]

Neugierige Phrase

[plush pelican]

eher "merkwürdige Phrase", nicht wahr?

[velvet venture]

Ich hätte gedacht, „curious“ hieße auf Deutsch nicht „kurios“ o. Ä.

[plush pelican]

Es kommt darauf an

[velvet venture]

Ach so

Wusst’ ich nicht

[shut briar]

Du solltest sie sehen, sie macht wirklich Spaß! Eine der wenigen Kindersendungen, die man auch als Erwachsener genießen kann

[plush pelican]

I'm curious = ich bin neugierig.

Now that's curious = Nun, das ist komisch/merkwürdig.

Ich habe schon so viele Serien, die ich mir anschauen sollte 😄

[velvet venture]

Eher „Das ist aber komisch!“

[velvet venture]

„aber“ ist hier eine Abtönungspartikel

[plush pelican]

ach so

[shut briar]

Das verstehe ich gut. Heutzutage ist das auch eine Aufgabe

@velvet venture wusstest du, Disney hat 40 weitere Folgen bestellt!

[velvet venture]

Von Phineas und Ferb?

[shut briar]

Yup

[velvet venture]

Ich hab die Serie 10 Jahre nicht gesehen

Lol

[shut briar]

Ich habe das wieder im Lockdown gesehen

Und jetzt auf Deutsch

Also 3 Sprachen

Gute KindheitsErinnerungen glaube ich

[velvet venture]

Du bist mir ja eine

[shut briar]

Yet again a phrase, den ich nicht verstehe 🥲

[velvet venture]

Oh, hätt’ ich mir denken können

Schwierig zu erklären

[shut briar]

Habe nachgeschlagen

[velvet venture]

Wo?

[shut briar]

Ich hoffe sehr dass es ein Kompliment ist 😂

[shut briar]

Dict.cc

[velvet venture]

Ein Kompliment eher nicht xd

[plush pelican]

😬

[velvet venture]

Hä?

[plush pelican]

Das habe ich auf HiNative.com gefunden

[velvet venture]

Wie kommt man auf so was?

[plush pelican]

https://de.hinative.com/questions/1033728

[velvet venture]

Das ist völliger Blödsinn, was diese Person da schreibt

[plush pelican]

Diese Antwort scheint die erste ein bisschen zu bestätigen

[velvet venture]

dict.cc sagt: „You sure are something (else)“

Diese Übersetzung kommt schon hin

[shut briar]

Auf Englisch kann das beide Positiv und negativ sein, ist das auch der Fall auf Deutsch?

[velvet venture]

*sowohl positiv als auch negativ

Lass mich grübeln …

Also nee, ich glaube, viel Positives kann man damit nicht rüberbringen

[shut briar]

Ach so

When I think about it in English it's not used positively that much either, except when one romantic interest looks at the weirs things other person does and say that with confused feelings

Wow that was specific

[velvet venture]

Ja lol ey

Wenn ich so darüber nachdenke … Es kann schon bedeuten, dass man den Angesprochenen schmeichelhaft oder sogar liebenswert findet

[tranquil flower]

Is that what is happening here? 🤔

[velvet venture]

I’m outta here

[hushed dawn]

je vs pro vs per ?

[long whale]

Don't use "per" in German where you'd use it in English. That's it. ;)

[hushed dawn]

Okay 😂

Und je bs pro ?

Vs*

[ripe dust]

Do you mean je ... desto/umso and pro X time?

[hushed dawn]

Nein

z.B. “ Die Durchschnittliche Kinderzahl je Frau …. “

Ich habe gedacht, warum nicht “pro Frau”

[long whale]

I feel "je" in its meaning of "per" sounds more like "each", but actually, there doesn't seem to be a difference.

[vagrant finch]

Hallo! Ich habe eine kurze Frage bitte. Ich habe für eine Übung diesen Satz geschrieben: "Ich kann dir von deinem Haus abholen, dann können wir in unseres Lieblingsrestaurant gehen." Die Textkorrektur, die ich benutzt habe, hat das als falsch bemerkt. Sie sagt, dass es "in unserem Lieblingsrestaurant gehen" sein soll. Ich bin jetzt ein bisschen verwirrt: Ist diese Szenario nicht eine Bewegung, sozusagen? Ich dachte, dass ich Akkusativ hier nutzen soll. Kann es Dativ sein, weil es einen bestimmten Ort beschreibt?

[undone verge]

nun, der Satz ist falsch, weil es 'ich kann dich von deinem Haus abholen' lauten muss. Bei 'in unseres Lieblingsrestaurant gehen' stimme ich dir zu. Allerdings ist unser, nicht unseres, da richtig

[vagrant finch]

okay, danke schön!

[hushed dawn]

"Aufgrund Ihrer vielversprechenden Anzeige entschied ich mich für eine Klassenfahrt nach London zu buchen"

Gibt es etwas falsch in diesem Satz ?

[long whale]

Yes. zu buchen

@hushed dawn

sich für etwas entscheiden (Ich entschied mich für X.) vs. sich [dafür] entscheiden, etwas zu tun (Ich entschied mich [dafür], X zu tun.)

[hushed dawn]

Vielen Dank !

[plush pelican]

Couldn't you also just get rid of "für"?

"Aufgrund Ihrer vielversprechenden Anzeige entschied ich mich, für eine Klassenfahrt nach London zu buchen"

[long whale]

Isn't that what I said? 😄

[plush pelican]

You didn't make it explicit that that was an option, you talked about the structure that could allow that to be an option

[long whale]

True.

[velvet venture]

You can add “dafür” before the infinitive phrase: “Aufgrund Ihrer vielversprechenden Anzeige entschied ich mich dafür, eine Klassenfahrt nach London zu buchen.” It’s not necessary, though, and therefore maybe even inelegant.

Which doesn’t mean that unnecessary pronominal adverbs that introduce a subclause or an infinitive phrase are inelegant by default.

[weary tendon]

könnte jemand erklären, warum die Antwort "ja" ist?

unter dem Absatz 2 Zeile 5

[long whale]

Well... do you understand the text?

[weary tendon]

sort of

[long whale]

Ehh... that's... sort of not enough, I'm afraid. Perhaps try to translate it? Look up words you don't understand?

I mean, explaining why the answer to the question is yes is tantamount to asking us to translate the text. And what use is that going to be to you?

[weary tendon]

so what i don't understand is the reasoning here

[long whale]

Okay. Then, can you tell me what it says in the 2nd part of the 2nd paragraph?

[weary tendon]

facial expression are not directly says about the emotions

[long whale]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I feel maybe this is your homework and you just want to get it over with...?

[calm kernel]

Er hat mir erlaubt ... -- dann sollte ich sagen --> Mir wurde erlaubt... oder Ich wurde erlaubt...

Dieselbe Frage gilt auch für jemandem kündigen. Danke vorab.

[acoustic breach]

Mir wurde erlaubt
("Wurde" hier ist die Konjugation für 3. Person im Singular)

[calm kernel]

So glaubte ich

auch, mir wurde gekündigt ne?

[acoustic breach]

Ja

[humble granite]

Hallo

Guten Abend

[velvet venture]

*Das habe ich vermutet

[humble granite]

Wie geht es euch Allerseits

Ich heisse Kadir

Und ich komme aus Indien

[acoustic breach]

@humble granite zum Gespräch benutzt man #general #general-2 #german-only #beginner-german

[humble granite]

Achso

Kann ich in Deutschsprache sprechen

[acoustic breach]

#questions-2 ist dafür, wenn man Fragen über die deutsche Sprache hat

[humble granite]

Okay

[acoustic breach]

In diesen 4 Kanälen kannst du auf Deutsch sprechen

[humble granite]

Dann was ist die Problem

[velvet venture]

Dieser Kanal ist zum Fragenstellen da. In den vier Kanälen, die @acoustic breach genannt hat, kannst du normal chatten.

[plush pelican]

Man, what level is that text? Seems kind of hard to me 😅 Just the way it's written. You really have to digest each sentence slowly.

[plush pelican]

Der Ausdruck von Ärger zum Beispiel scheint starken geschlechtspezifischen Regeln zu unterliegen: Es wird negative bewertet, wenn eine Frau ihrem Ärger in der Öffentlichkeit Ausdruck gibt. So verstecken Frauen in solchen Situationen ihren Ärger hinter einem Lächeln.

That's the key bit, I think, at least for that question. Where's this from, btw? A practice test? What level?

[plush pelican]

It looks to me like a practice test, or at least I've done a practice test that looked like this.

[thorn lagoon]

"Wintertag" refers to any day during Winter, not a specific day, isn't it?

[long whale]

To my knowledge, that's correct, yes.

[calm kernel]

Soweit ich weiß könnte das Gefühl des Ärgers als schlechte Laune gelten. Und es wird im Text übersichtlich ausgesagt, dass sie solche Gefühle hinter einem Lächeln verstecken. (der letzte Satz)

[thorn lagoon]

Vielen Dank

[dusty pendant]

This is very random, but does anybody know what the "Fege" in Fegefeuer means?
Etymologically mostly

[delicate tiger]

"mittelhochdeutsch vegeviur, Lehnübersetzung von kirchenlateinisch pūrgātiōnis ignis „Feuer der Reinigung“"

[velvet venture]

I would like to add to this that some of you might know “fegen” for “to sweep”, while it’s only used in that meaning in Northern Germany. In Southern Germany “kehren” is used for that activity. In the South, where the word “Fegefeuer” originated, they used and use this word for “to clean”. So you should not think of this word as “sweeping fire” but as “cleaning fire”, which already makes much more sense.

[dusty pendant]

Ohhhh

danke! :D

[velvet venture]

Bitte! :D

[dusty pendant]

that's actually so badass

[velvet venture]

Yes, the church people were very resourceful when it came to scaring the heck out of people. :)

[icy flax]

will überhaupt nicht verrückt rüberkommen, aber es ist mindestens ironisch, wie seine Nachnamen 2 häufig auf Google nachgeschlagenen Wörtern ähneln 🧐

Immer hin und wieder finde ich gut zu überprüfen, ob ich noch richtige Sätze aufbaue. Hab das kurz einem Freund geschickt. Also.. Ist dieser Satz gutes Deutsch?

[dense obsidian]

Nicht schlecht, Herr Specht! Schöner Satz! Ich geh mal davon aus, dass die Person einen Doppelnamen hat, da "Nachnamen" im Plural steht. Wenn er keinen Doppelnamen hat, sollte das im Singular stehen. Die "2" würde ich auch noch durch "zwei" ersetzen, aber sonst ist das ein sehr schöner Satz.

[plush fjord]

die geschäfte in das zentrum sind teuer is it correct?

[whole portal]

in dem (= im) Zentrum

[brave flint]

Ist es nach oder in?
Ich bin (nach/in) Deutschland gekommen.

„nach“ ist richtig, oder? Eine Freundin sagt „in“. Wer hat Recht?

[whole portal]

uhm

Gramatically, both are correct

[brave flint]

💀
gibt es einen Unterschied?

[whole portal]

However one is coming (🚄💨) to Germany and one is coming (😩💦) in Germany

You probably want nach

[brave flint]

danke!

[brave flint]

das ist ein großer Unterschied.

[plush fjord]

ich gehe zu dem Haus is it correct?

[long whale]

If you're trying to say "I'm walking [up] to the house", yes, it is.

[brave flint]

what if the Verb is ankommen?

is it still „nach DE angekommen“?

[calm kernel]

AHAHHAHASJDHA

[whole portal]

no that's not a movement

[calm kernel]

so kommen is also used for to cum?

[whole portal]

yes

[calm kernel]

didnt see this in grammatical books

nice

[calm kernel]

vermutlich benutzt man "in" mit ankommen

[plush fjord]

what is the meaning of so in Ich kann nicht so früh aufstehen

[plain umbra]

In this sentence it happens to be the same in English. "so early"

[icy flax]

Dankiii

[glossy jay]

dann rannte sie über den Rasen davon und ihre blonden Haare wehten hinter ihr her

what does the her do here?

[plush pelican]

separable prefix part of a separable verb, I assume

[glossy jay]

btw
how good would h2g2 be for learning german? is the language simple-ish?

[velvet venture]

It belongs to the separable verb “herwehen”

[plush pelican]

I have no idea what "h2g2" is

[glossy jay]

hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy

[velvet venture]

I have read it in German. It’s a good book written in a very appealing language. The vocabulary shouldn’t be that specific as well. So yeah, give it a go, you won’t regret it

It’s maybe not advisable for a level-B learner to read, maybe you should improve your German to C1 before reading it

[glossy jay]

oke danke

[velvet venture]

Keine Ursache

[acoustic breach]

What is the difference of German's "kommen vs. gehen" and "come vs. go"?

I know that "kommen" is often used is context where English would use "to go", like in this picture.

So if I say I want to go to a place, when to use "kommen" instead of "gehen"?

[hushed dawn]

Ich habe eine Frage bitte. Es gibt einen Lückentext. Und in der folgende Satz ist die Antwort nur als"der" richtig.

" Die im Katalog enthaltenen Abbildungen und Angaben dienen nur _______ Veranschaulichung...."

Meine Frage ist, warum ist "als" nicht auch richtig ?

[plain umbra]

Idk if this answers your question but "zu etw kommen" is usually specifically translated as "to reach / get to".

I think similar to ankommen and also "auf etw kommen" (for some different contexts).

[acoustic breach]

So "how do I get/go to this place", ppl usually say "wie komme ich zu diesem Ort"?

[velvet venture]

Yesss

But rather “dahin”

With “Ort” we usually use “an”: “an diesen Ort”

[acoustic breach]

Wie komme ich an diesen Ort?

Or komme an diesem Ort an?

[velvet venture]

Yes

[acoustic breach]

Oh

[velvet venture]

This sentence has a different meaning

But it’s grammartically correct too

[long whale]

im folgenden Satz - Because "jdm/etwas dienen" (to help, to further, to support) is different from "als etwas dienen" (to serve as). Let's say I need something to stir my soup, but I don't have a spoon. So, I use a screw driver for this purpose: Der Schraubenzieher dient [mir] als Löffel.

And yes, I know, in English, you could use the same verb for both, but German just happens to differentiate between them. ;)

[hushed dawn]

Ich bin Dankbar 🙂

[shadow spear]

How can I get Goethe B1 from 0 and how long should it take, I'm currently doing just duolingo but I'm not sure if it's the right way to go(probably not) but I have no idea what else to do, basically what I'm asking is suggestion on online courses or YouTube playlist

[shadow spear]

Would "Learn German"s playlists from YouTube work fine?

[vocal bloom]

ich eine kleine question❓
es ist dutch und deutsch so similar ich mean die sprache
like in many words so if someone sprechen deutsch er kann sprechen dutch.

sorry if there's some mistakes

btw:can you translate for the words in English to deutsch

[south zenith]

As an English native I wouldn’t say “how do I go to claraplatz” I’d say “how do I get to claraplatz” and those instances where I’d say get pretty consistently translate to kommen instead of gehen

Dang I never realize I’m not at the bottom when I open these channels so I answer something and realize it’s already been answered, F

[acoustic breach]

no no it’s great that you have answered!

which helps me understanding the verb 😄

[fervent kernel]

Dutch (Niederländisch) and German (Deutsch) is similar alot, germans can easily understand Dutch people same otherwise around the only thing which is not the same is the accent and some different words but usually they understand eachother.

[vocal bloom]

dank

[fervent kernel]

Ich hätte eine kleine Frage.
Ist Niederländisch und Deutsch sehr ähnlich , ich meine die Sprache. Wie in vielen Wörtern wenn jemand deutsch spricht, kann er dann auch Niederländisch?

And there in german

[vocal bloom]

🥲

me who thinks i am fluent

[fervent kernel]

Ahah its okey

Everyone makes mistakes

Besides you are learning from them

[vocal bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/musashi-musashi-miyamoto-vagabond-profile-picture-gif-26490168

[long whale]

Ehh... that might be true if you're from Northern Germany, I don't know. I just know that I don't understand a thing when a Dutch person speaks Dutch. And I don't think I've ever seen a Dutch person try that with a German, either. 🤔 They usually speak English when talking to Germans, as far as I know. :)

[fervent kernel]

Yes i am from northern germany but it depends a few understand and a few dont, i personally can understand them

They just have a strong accent where you have to listen closely

But otherwise it shouldn't be problem

[delicate tiger]

simple written Dutch is easy to understand for Germans, but complex texts and spoken are close to impossible without learning some of the language

[fervent kernel]

Pretty much

[fair jewel]

can traurig mean tired

[long whale]

Context?

[fair jewel]

any

[long whale]

-> No.

[velvet venture]

It means “sad”

[plain crest]

Guten Abend, kann jemand erklären mich, in Was fallen muss Mann "Dich" oder "Dir" benutzen?

[whole portal]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/221709483284496394/349494932727267339/e112d6cb7cda3f8890c6c61a569126f5.jpg

[velvet venture]

Wo sind die Personalpronomina im Genitiv?!

[plain umbra]

Is it a joke or serious question?

[velvet venture]

I’m being serious. They are hardly ever used, but they exist!

[plain umbra]

It's generally because learning materials are made based on what learners need to know and not archaic linguistics information.

And probably also because learners may get confused between a genitive personal pronoun and a normal possessive pronoun, since they look similar.

[velvet venture]

Die Aussage, dass genitivische Personalpronomina archaisch seien, mag überzeugend sein, ich wäre mir ihrer aber nicht ganz so sicher. :)

[plush pelican]

It depends on how many hours per day you can realistically study for, and how much money you're willing to pay. The less money, the more you'll have to learn things on your own, which is still possible, but takes longer.

Depending on hours per day and commitment, it could be anywhere from 6 months to 2 years.

Check out the Google Doc of resources: https://bit.ly/gladresources

I'd recommend Nicos Weg starting out.

[plain umbra]

I don't think I've seen them used irl but either way, these are learning materials aimed at beginners. I think it's a good enough reason.

[plush pelican]

WHAT IS THIS? xD

(I know what it is, but man I'm not familiar with that)

[velvet venture]

C2 German

[plush pelican]

https://tenor.com/view/someday-not-tomorrow-not-today-maybe-maybe-not-today-gif-13346626

[robust ravine]

Pls show me

[velvet venture]

@robust ravine As you wish.

• ich – meiner
• du – deiner
• er – seiner
• sie – ihrer
• es – seiner
• wir – unser
• ihr – euer
• sie – ihrer

All of these example sentences are elevated language and not heard in everyday speech:

“Das Leben ist schön, wenn man sich seiner zu erfreuen weiß.” – “Life is beautiful when you know how to enjoy it.”

“Als er sich ihrer Leiden entsann, erbarmte er sich ihrer und gewährte ihr Zutritt.” – “When he remembered her sufferings, he had mercy on her and granted her entrance.”

“Je mehr euer seid, desto minder wird der Feind sich euer erwehren können.” – “The more you are, the less the enemy will be able to resist you.”

[velvet venture]

I just realised I only listed examples in which the genitive personal pronouns are used with certain verbs.

There are other uses of them, for which I’m going to list some examples:

“Einschließlich Ihrer und meiner sind unser vier.” – “Including you and me, we are four.”

“Wir haben etliche Freunde unser (von uns) eingeladen.” – “We invited several friends of ours.”

“Sie möchte dich nicht sehen, da sie wegen deiner vielen Besuche deiner müde geworden ist.” – “She doesn’t want to see you, because she got tired of you because of your many visits.”

[hushed dawn]

"Seit die Befragungen im Jahre 1979 begonnen habe, ....."

Warum ist es kein Dativ nach seit ?

[undone verge]

it should be haben, but here seit is not a preposition

[hushed dawn]

Ja, Entschuldigung mein Tippfehler.

[hushed dawn]

Könnten Sie es mir bitte erklären ?

[regal heath]

thats wrong

doesnt make sense

[undone verge]

seit is a temporal connector.
IT's 'seitdem'

[velvet venture]

Der einzige Fehler war ein fehlendes -n beim finiten Verb

[wild coyote]

Warum hat meine VC sperret

[hushed dawn]

Die Leinwand vs Bildschirm ?

[covert apex]

asked gpt how i should go about memorizing the words "die Kiste" and needless to say it was quite odd

anyone have any better ideas lol?

[undone verge]

practice with flashcards

[hushed dawn]

gibt es einen, den dir besonders empfiehlst ?

[undone verge]

anki

[hushed dawn]

Okay ich suche es gleich durch.

[regal heath]

ups ja stimmt sorry hab’s nur schnell durchgelesen

[acoustic breach]

Me: use the word frequently

Talk to people, write diaries etc

[covert apex]

how often will i say crate though? 😭

[acoustic breach]

Talk to yourself "wo ist meine Kiste..."

It could mean "box"

[covert apex]

thats true

i mean yet again i guess that question could be dittod for box lol

i will talk about boxes as much as possiblew though

[wise pendant]

Write about a handful of words on a post it note everyday and put it where you see it frequently throughout the day.
Behind your computer screen for example.
Next day put the next note beside it and so on and always try to frequently look at it and think of them throughout the day.
But nothing beats Anki imo

[plain umbra]

This doesn't help with all words but in this case maybe it's useful to know German Kiste and English chest are related.

There are many memory tricks out there you can try, but at the end of the day, it's quite an individual thing that you have to decide for yourself how to achieve.

For objects, like Kiste, you can try using pictures to help you.

[hushed dawn]

Versuch mal "Youglish.com". Schreib das Wort oder eine Wendung z.B, "eine Kiste / Die Kiste / Kiste".
Dann kannst du es in verschiedenen Kontext hören. Das hilft mir sehr, Wörter auswendig zu lernen.

[swift terrace]

l have gone to the classroom

[plush pelican]

yeah, don't use ChatGPT, for exactly this reason.

The Anki app is basically digital flashcards. You can use that to practice your German vocabulary. They have a forum where you can download decks other people have already made, so you don't even have to make your own cards necessarily.

[vernal ermine]

Why there is no preposition article conjugation with' die '

[stuck bough]

I've just been reading an article on Deutsche Welle and came across this sentence. 'Ein neuer Rekord, so die US-Organisation, die seit Jahren Zensur in Büchereien anprangert, und einen Anstieg um 38 Prozent gegenüber dem Vorjahr feststellen musste.' Why is 'musste' used here? Is it suggesting that the organisation had to determine the size of the increase?

[long whale]

I'm not sure what you mean?

[long whale]

Mm... I'd say it's rather like the "must" in "I must say...", i.e. they felt obliged to state, they're sorry to say

[stuck bough]

ah, interesting

is this construction commonly used?

or reserved to this style of writing (formal and journalistic)

[long whale]

I'd say so, yes.

[stuck bough]

thanks

[vernal ermine]

Like in case of in + dem - im and in + das - ins like that why there is not for die.

[stuck bough]

would u mind providing another example sentence with this construction in it?

sorry for the badgering

[long whale]

It just doesn't exist. 🤷

[long whale]

Which construction are you referring to, exactly? I mean, there are quite a few elements there? 😳

[vernal ermine]

@long whale what are essential modal verbs that we need to know.

[long whale]

There are only 6 (or 7, depending on the way you look at it) of them, after all, and they're all important. I mean, which English modal verb would you consider unimportant?

[vernal ermine]

Are there any modal verb apart from it? @long whale

[long whale]

I did say there are only 6 or 7, didn't I?

[acoustic breach]

How is it viewed as 7?

Is it because of mögen and möchten?

[vernal ermine]

@long whale what punctuations do I need to follow while writing a letter.

[plush pelican]

That's not conjugation, btw. "conjugation" is when you change a verb to match with the subject.

You mean, "Why isn't there a contraction for 'in + die'?"

[vernal ermine]

Yes, but there is nothing like it.

[long whale]

Comma after "Lieber Jack,", first letter of text not capitalized (unless it's a noun, obviously). No comma after the good-bye formula. That's it.

[stuck bough]

just the use of muessen in this context

[vernal ermine]

No comma after the good-bye formula. In which place does it come. @long whale

[long whale]

https://www.dwds.de/wb/müssen, specifically the part at the top of the page here:

[plush fjord]

wer ruft an? an means on how can we say who calls on

what is the meaning here

[whole portal]

Heh

A lot of verbs in german are created from a preposition and a verb together

in this case the verb is anrufen

which means to call [as in with a phone]

[long whale]

This might help with the concept: https://www.dartmouth.edu/~deutsch/Grammatik/Wortbildung/Separables.html

[stuck bough]

thx

[plush fjord]

ohh i see

[whole portal]

rufen would be calling someone (to come over) or shouting something
zurufen would be shouting something at someone
ausrufen is announcing something
abrufen would be querying something

[plush fjord]

thx so much both

[whole portal]

I think durchrufen is also used in some regions similarly to anrufen

zurückrufen is recalling, etc.

[plush fjord]

so rufen for shouting anrufen for?

to call someond

[whole portal]

calling someone by phone

vorrufen is asking someone in class to go to the front to present

every base verb spawns like 5 others

[plush fjord]

lol

[whole portal]

(Which also leads to the funny fact that the opposite of "umfahren" is "umfahren")

[plush pelican]

zurufen would be shouting something at someone

Well, that's weird.
sprechen, ansprechen
schreien, anschreien
rufen, zurufen

[gusty silo]

i mean anrufen is a thing (not just calling by phone, also invoking a deity)

[whole portal]

Hm, you're right, interesting

[whole portal]

oh yeah lol I completely forgot about that

[vernal ermine]

Mit freundlichen Grüßen or mit freundlichen Grüße

Which is correct

[whole portal]

Grüßen

[vernal ermine]

In letter

[vernal ermine]

Why

[whole portal]

Plural?

singular would be "mit freundlichem Gruß(e)"

also Dativ

[vernal ermine]

So in dativ can we use this for both masculine and feminine?

[plush pelican]

the specific situation of "dative, plural" adds an -en or -n ending to nouns that don't already end in -n

much like how "genitive, masculine" and "genitive, neuter" adds an -es or -s to nouns

[vernal ermine]

But in a letter how it comes plural as it is written by a single person.

[whole portal]

Grüße is in plural

multiple regards/wishes

You don't say best regard in english either

[plush pelican]

der Gruß (singular), die Grüße (plural)

[vernal ermine]

Give me some examples of those cases

[plush pelican]

of which cases?

[vernal ermine]

What we use normally in a letter

[whole portal]

typical letter endings?

[vernal ermine]

My class teacher told to use mit freundlichen Grüße

[whole portal]

Yeah that's not a thing

[plush pelican]

that's just wrong regardless

"freundlichen" suggests plural, while "Gruße" isn't even a word, it's a mix of the singular and the plural.

[whole portal]

mit needs Dativ which only has an n in Plural which Gruße isn't

Wdym Gruße isn't a word

the -e in Dativ is archaic but not wrong

[plush pelican]

ah, you're right

but in that case it would be "freundlichem", right?

[whole portal]

yes

[plush pelican]

so the sentence as they wrote it can't be right--the adjective suggests plural, the noun suggests singular, they contradict each other

[whole portal]

Gruße is some of the few words that even still uses the e in a fixed phrase (die Hand zum Gruße/Gott zum Gruße)

[vernal ermine]

Grüße

[plush pelican]

mit freundlichen Grüßen, you'd need to add the -n because of (dative, plural)

[craggy beacon]

May I ask the Uhhh

difference between 'Von' and 'Aus'

[whole portal]

The places in which it's used .-.

aus is out of, von is from

[craggy beacon]

Oh

[whole portal]

but von can also mean of sometimes

as we said earlier with prepositions you just need to understand how and in which specific cases it's used

[vernal ermine]

But Grüße is a noun

[whole portal]

Yes and?

[vernal ermine]

So Grüße doesn't change, only the adjective freundlich is added with en because of dativ

Plural

[plush pelican]

When "Grüße" is the object of the preposition "mit", "mit" requires its object to be in the dative case.

mit dem Hund
mit der Kuh

Because "Grüße" is plural, you now have the situation where the noun is in (dative, plural). In that specific situation, you have to add an -en or -n to the end of the noun.

mit den Grüßen

As I already said, when the noun is dative and in plural, that is a special situation where you also change the noun itself.

much like when a noun is genitive and masculine

Der Freund meines Bruders

[vernal ermine]

What are other ways to tell yours faithfully/ sincerely/ obedienty/ lovingly.

In german

[plush fjord]

what is the difference between shicken and anschicke

[velvet venture]

“schicken” is the most common German word for “to send”, and “anschicken” you really don’t need to know as a beginner. It’s a level-C word if anything.

[long whale]

Scroll down to where it says How to end and sign off a formal email in German here: https://www.berlitz.com/blog/how-to-start-write-end-email-german-etiquette When writing to a friend, you can write "Liebe Grüße" (often abbreviated to "LG" in texting) or "Viele liebe Grüße".

[boreal swift]

"Ich kriege Zahnschmerzen". Is this phrase commonly used? Because kriege is translated to war.

[undone verge]

kriegen is a verb

it means (roughly) 'to get' and is colloquial

not to mistake for 'der Krieg' (the war)

[vernal ermine]

Thank you

After name in the letter, can I put pullstop

[boreal swift]

Ah.. Got it.. Thanks

[acoustic breach]

After your Name in the letter? No

[junior flame]

Suppose I am making a suggestion and I say: "Ich hätte da eine Idee:...."
I read this line in a book and was confused, why hätte is used and not habe. Can someone pls explain?

[fervent kernel]

Hi everyone how can i translate this sentence to german " instructions unclear, stuck my left foor in the dishwasher". I need it for my assignment thank you in advance

[verbal girder]

with deepl
https://www.deepl.com/translator#en/de/instructions unclear%2C stuck my left foor in the dishwasher

[fervent kernel]

i think it translate to " i would have an idea/suggestion for this" in english

[fervent kernel]

thank you so much Ai generated nonsense

[long whale]

It's like saying "I might be able to suggest something" when you know you can. K2 is often used for suggestions, it makes things sound less... pushy.

[plush pelican]

"hätte" is Konjunktiv II. Konjunktiv II is used for hypotheticals. Much like when you're ordering food, making something more hypothetical makes it sound more polite/less demanding, because it's more removed from the present moment, so it's not a demand right here, right now, in someone's face.

Instead of "I want a cheeseburger", "I would like a cheeseburger"
"Ich will einen Cheeseburger", "Ich möchte einen Cheeseburger"/"Ich hätte gern einen Cheeseburger"

[timid oracle]

Wie sein Arm einfach schon komplett voll mit diesen Stichen ist

Or

Wie sein Arm ist einfach schon komplett voll mit diesen Stichen

Welche Wortfolge ist richtig?

[lunar void]

kommt drauf an was du genau ausdrücken möchtest, der zweite satz würde mit einem komma und fragezeichen genauso funktionieren

[velvet venture]

Mit einem Komma hinter „Wie“ wohlgemerkt.

[spark cobalt]

eher ein fragezeichen oder nicht?

[velvet venture]

~ duden.de → Sprachwissen → Rechtschreibregeln

Es geht also beides.

[hushed dawn]

"2)Beschwerde über falsche Informationen und schlechten Service"

Das sollte "falschen" sein, oder ?

ist "abstellen" = parken?

[long whale]

Why would it be "falschen"? - If it's a car, yes. But it has more meanings than this.

[hushed dawn]

Dativ Plural habe ich daran gedacht.

[long whale]

It's "sich über etwas/jdn beschweren", and the complaint takes the same case: Akkusativ.

Also, if it required Dativ, it would also have to be "schlechtem Service" ;)

[hushed dawn]

Ach so, verstanden. Vielen dank ❤️

[plush fjord]

what is the meaning of sich in general and meaning in Wann treffen sie sich?

[undone verge]

sich is a reflexive pronoun and gets used with reflexive verbs.
In this case, treffen is being used in a reflexive construction: "sich (mit jdm.) treffen"
so it's like "when are they meeting each other"

[plush fjord]

ich muss natürlich auch meine Hausaufgaben machen. why we used machen instead of mache?

[undone verge]

muss is a modalverb, and modalverbs require the non-conjugated 'last verb' in infinitiv

Ich mache meine Hausaufgaben
Ich muss meine Hausaufgaben machen

Ich esse Kuchen.
Ich möchte Kuchen essen.

[long whale]

Same as in English, btw: He must do (not: does) his homework. ;)

[plush fjord]

thanks

[hushed dawn]

How can one use “es sind”
As far as I have understood its like “es gibt” but for plural. But I think it came across me to use “es gibt” with plural ? Can someone clarify ?

[plain umbra]

Es gibt is for stating that something exists. Es ist/sind (singular or plural depends on the object(s) being mentioned) is for pointing out something.

[plush pelican]

You're asking a lot of foundational questions. I think you'd have a lot of these questions answered by doing Nicos Weg or something where they teach you basic German grammar.

Check out the #resources channel and the linked Google Doc of resources.

[fervent kernel]

Also, some dialects do use "es ist da" for "es gibt".

I don't know about the "sind". I think it works too.

Among them, Swiss German, iirc. But that is a question for #dialects.

[thick minnow]

was bedeutet *zwar and how, when to use it?

z.b. Er ist zwar nicht reich, aber immerhin!
can anyone explain this example and also give some more?

why there are 2 question hastags ?

[long whale]

Please don't ask the same question in more than one channel. People may not realize it's already been answered elsewhere -> waste of time and effort.

[thick minnow]

i was just confused where to ask these type of questions

[timid oracle]

Can you show me the komma variant? I have no idea where to put it.
Wie sein Arm, ist einfach schon komplett voll mit diesen Stichen? Sounds weird and wrong.

[delicate tiger]

"Wie, sein Arm ist...?"

[velvet venture]

Oder: „Wie? Sein Arm ist …?“

Geht beides.

[lunar void]

^die zwei haben recht

[timid oracle]

Thanks.

[glossy jay]

Do native speakers ever google "gender/plural of noun"?

[whole portal]

Well there are some rarer ones that are commonly done wrong or just vary by region

But unless there's an argument I doubt it

like you may hear natives say Wägen

Which apparently is valid in some southern parts but sounds wrong to me

And then there's Status ...

[glossy jay]

am mostly talking about rarer words

[whole portal]

I guess with non native words it can happen more often

[glossy jay]

if not so... when native speakers learn a new word do they intuitivwly know its gender/plural or no?

[verbal girder]

I mean, can you even utilize a noun without giving away its gender?

[plain umbra]

Not necessarily intuitively. It depends on several factors.

For example, a lot of nouns in German are compound nouns, which you know the gender of as long as you know the final word in the compound. Same goes for gendered suffixes.

And often if you hear or read a new word, you will be able to get the gender from the sentence it's used in.

But let's say you somehow here a word you've never heard before, you don't know what it means, it's not used in a sentence, it's not related to anything you know of... then a German native speaker won't magically know the gender.

[lunar inlet]

my brain is not braining rn

[plain umbra]

It's just that that's not a common scenario.

[whole portal]

there's also several clues from the word itself

which is why with a bunch of words even without any knowledge a big portion of natives will easily and automatically agree on a Genus

some words just "sound neutral"

[plain umbra]

Agreeing is not the same as knowing though. I think it's an important distinction.

[whole portal]

fair enough

[hushed dawn]

"Trotz gehört schon in einer Alter hinein".

Was ist der Verwendung von "hinein" ?

[peak moat]

*ein Alter
Aber der Satz macht generell nicht so viel Sinn für mich. Hast du noch mehr Kontext?

Wenn ich schätzen müsste, dann würde ich hinein als anderes wort für"dazu" sehen, z.B wie: "Trotz gehört schon zum Alter mit dazu"
aber das ist nur geraten da ich den Satz so noch nicht verstehe

[hushed dawn]

Es ist ein Hörtext, das um Entwicklung von Kinder zur Tyrannen geht. Und das war eine Frage.

heißt "bietet sich das einfach an" als "etwas selbstverständlich ist" oder "etwas sinnvoll ist" ?

[peak moat]

Anbieten wird oft im Zusammenhang mit Gelegenheit genutzt
Z.B.: Es bietet sich die Gelegenheit zur ...

Als Beispielsatz
"Es bietet sich einfach an, dass die Kinder auf dem Spielplatz spielen"
= Die Kinder laufen gerade an dem Spielplatz vorbei, haben also gerade die Gelegenheit dort zu spielen

Anders ausgedrückt: es ist naheliegend

[acoustic breach]

How would I say "what do you want me to talk about ?"

Worüber willst du, dass ich sage?

[long whale]

Worüber soll ich reden? Was soll ich [denn] sagen?

[acoustic breach]

So the "what do you want" part can't be translated directly?

[long whale]

Not without sounding really awkward in German. I mean "soll ich?" does mean "do you want me to?" in other contexts, too. 🤷

[acoustic breach]

Ok

[long whale]

Was willst du hören? would be another possibility (with the disadvantage of implying "I'll say anything you want me to say. Whether I mean it/it's the truth is a different question.")

[acoustic breach]

Got it. Thank you!

[fervent kernel]

I am not sure how to go about asking this, is this a "rule":

*nichts/etwas [adj.]es sein, *
z.B: Es ist nichts Schlimmes

of course its no longer an adjective here but you get my point. Also is this the only case those adjective-nouns pop up or are there others that I have just not been exposed to?

[undone verge]

this is normal, it's called nominalisation

they can also pop up elsewhere in different forms

for example, it doesn't always have to be 'neutral'
was schlimmes = something bad
das Schlimmste = the worst (thing)
but you may also see adjectives turning into nouns refering non-neutral things. i.e. (about purses)
Willst du eine grüne Tasche? Nein, ich will lieber eine Rote.

or when talking about 'germans'
ein Deutscher hat mich angesprochen.
eine Deutsche hat mich angesprochen.
eine Gruppe von Deutschen hat mich angesprochen.
etc etc. (for all the cases, genders, plural)

[fervent kernel]

thanks

[still blade]

Is anyone familiar with how Associates degrees translate to possibly acquiring the Hochschulzugangsberechtigung (das Wort an sich dient als Folter) I had a fairly high highschool Gpa and this ANABIN website seems to be of little help.

[whole portal]

Wdym by associates

[still blade]

ahhhh associates degree

[whole portal]

Der Associate-Degree gilt in den USA als akademischer Grad, ist aber in anderen Ländern, besonders in Europa, nicht als Hochschulabschluss anerkannt.
hm doesn't say if it helps you with your Hochschulzugangsberechtigung

I don't know how this works for people that haven't finished school in Germany, I'd assume certain degrees translate to Abitur but I could be wrong, you should probably ask this in #1033125270217048246

[plush pelican]

That's turning an adjective into a noun, Adjectival Nouns is one name for that, in German "substantivierte Adjektive". Here's a page about it: https://www.dartmouth.edu/~deutsch/Grammatik/AdjectivalNouns/AdjectivalNouns.html

Big take-away: the adjective turns into a noun, is capitalized, and has a case, but it still retains the adjective property of being declined, so it is declined according to its own case.

For example: Wir reden von etwas Einmaligem. We're talking about something unique.
von requires dative for the object of the preposition, so "Einmalig-" has -em added to the end (unless talking about a person or something specific, the substantiviertes Adjektiv is probably neuter)

[plush pelican]

@fervent kernel To expand on what hallö said:

Some relatively common nouns are actually not nouns, but Adjectival Nouns, hence why they have a "weird" declension. For example, the word for an "alien" is just the adjective "außerirdisch" turned into an Adjectival Noun, thus:

der Außerirdische, ein Außerirdischer, von dem Außerirdischen.

https://de.wiktionary.org/wiki/Außerirdischer

[boreal swift]

Can it be said in this way ?
"Wöruber wollen Sie mit mir Reden?"

[long whale]

Spelling: worüber; reden - It's a perfectly viable sentence, but it means "What do you want to talk to me about?"

[boreal swift]

okay.. got it, danke!

[fervent kernel]

[shadow spear]

Can I reach goathe B1 in 3-4 months mainly using Complete German book by Paul Coggle if I give ~4 hours a day

[fervent kernel]

it's possible but not highly probable, especially if this is your first introduction to German

[plush pelican]

If you've already learned a language before and know how best to learn, and especially if you already know about cases and gender of nouns, it might be possible.

If German is your first real foreign language...it would be tough.

[hushed dawn]

Hallo,

Wenn "eigentlich" in einer Frage benutzt wird, macht es die Bedeutung, dass etwas ganz anders geplannt war, aber passiert in Wirklichkeit unterschiedlich ?

z.B., "Wer hast du eigentlich eingeladen?"

Also das heißt, die Person hat erst daran gezweifelt, wer einzuladen ?

[midnight fog]

Wenn "eigentlich" in einer Frage verwendet wird, dann ist es meist ein sogenannter Partikel (Wortart). In diesem Fall hat "eigentlich" dann zwei Bedeutungen:

1. man drückt damit eine gewisse Anteilnahme in der Fragestellung aus und kann somit z.B. unter anderem auch Stellung beziehen (vorwurfsvolle Äußerung). Beispiel: Wen hast du da eigentlich eingeladen? (Kann eine negative Meinung ausdrücken, dass die Person, die die Frage stellt, nicht darüber erfreut ist, wer da eingeladen wurde). Das muss aber nicht immer der Fall sein und hängt davon ab, wie die andere Person die Frage aufnimmt.

2. kann eine Spontanität ausdrücken, also man stellt z.B. eine Frage, die einem selber gerade eingefallen ist und da verwendet man dann "eigentlich". Beispiel: Hast du eigentlich einen Hund? (Im Englischen würde das dann sinngemäß "btw, do you have a dog" heißen)

[hushed dawn]

Vielen Dank ❤️

Sagt man "Der Tag verlief" oder "Der Tag verging" ?

[night dagger]

beides geht, sie brauchen aber einen anderen Kontext glaub ich

zB „did Zeit vergeht wie im Flug“ vs „der Tag ist gut verlaufen“

[peak moat]

Hängt davon ab was du sagen möchtest
Der Tag verging ist eine Aussage für sich, z.B:
Der Tag verging und die Familie ging schlafen.
Bei der Tag verlief braucht es noch ein Adjektiv.
Z.B:
Der Tag verlief ereignisreich.

[hushed dawn]

Verstanden 🙂

[magic wave]

If I want to search for verb in each form like v1, v2(past_form), v3(perfect_form) which site shall I looking for or what keyword should I google it

[undone verge]

verb + Konjugation

[long whale]

Try verbformen.de ;)

[plush fjord]

what does nach means in
ich komme nach hause

i come to home?

or i am coming to home?

[undone verge]

nach Hause is a fixed phrase which means '(towards) home'
Ich bin zu Hause = I am at home
ich gehe nach Hause = I am going home

[plush fjord]

thanks

what is the meaning of spät in
wie spät ist es?

[undone verge]

dict.cc

[plush fjord]

and what is the difference with später

[plush pelican]

https://www.dict.cc/?s=spät

Begrich: Hinter Krahs Aussage steckt wohl der Wunsch, eine weltanschaulich einheitliche Partei zu werden, die deutlich im Lager der extremen Rechten steht. In diesem Kreis nimmt man die Nationalkonservativen und Konservativ-Liberalen als Störer war. Deren Lager ist praktisch nicht mehr handlungsfähig und soll nun auch aus allen Positionen gedrängt werden.

Shouldn't that be "wahr" at the end, from "wahrnehmen"?
Taken from Tagesschau: https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/innenpolitik/afd-rechtsextremismus-100.html

[velvet venture]

You are right. It should be “wahr” as a part of the separable verb “wahrnehmen”.

[plush pelican]

It's a favorite game of German learners: Have I horribly misunderstood something, or did this journalist just make a mistake?

😅

[whole portal]

Tagesschau ... Jesus

Can't even use autocorrect in ms word 💀

[velvet venture]

Literally: “How late is it?”
(Translation: „What’s the time?“)
So „spät“ means „late“.

[candid jewel]

Okay so i'm a little stuck on this. If you're asking someone "Are you going to the park" you would say „Gehst du in den Park?" but how would you say that formally? My initial thought is „Gehen Sie in den Park?" but that also translates to "Go to the park" as a command. Is it just the way and context that it is said in that makes the difference (and the question mark if written)?

[whole portal]

try to learn russian lol

[plush pelican]

it's a coincidence, the imperative and a question look the same for "sie/Sie", except that the question has a question mark at the end, and the imperative just has a period.

Btw, include punctuation when translating using Google Translate or DeepL, otherwise the machine might get confused.

[whole portal]

Some languages have like no grammar to differentiate questions, commands and statements and intonation, context and indicators like question marks are everything

[dawn oxide]

Spoken questions still sound like questions tho because of the intonation

[velvet venture]

-er can be the comparative-degree ending, and it can be a declension ending. So:

“Das mache ich später.” -> „I’ll do that later.“
„Es ist später Abend.“ -> “It’s late evening.”

[dawn oxide]

You emphasize different words

[plush pelican]

My dude, if they don't know what "spät" means, they probably have no idea what a "declension ending" is

[candid jewel]

Right so it is the same sentence (coincidently) but the intonation (when spoken) and punctuation (when written) differentiate the imperative from the question?

[velvet venture]

Lul

[dawn oxide]

Yeah basically

I guess usually you wouldn't really ask like that though? I'd probably say "Haben Sie vor in den Park zu gehen?" or smth like that

Depending on the situation

But yeah it is the same sentence

[candid jewel]

That makes sense, I guess there are some cases like that in english as well so not entirely foreign 😂. Thanks

Like in english you might tell someone to "Eat lunch now" but that could also be a question "Eat lunch now?" in response to being asked if they should eat lunch presently

Like it's a silly example but it does happen

[dawn oxide]

Ah true

[candid jewel]

But yeah you might not ask "Are you going to the park"

Maybe if you were already walking in that direction you might ask that

but if you were enquiring about someone's plans for the day you probably wouldn't ask that no

[junior flame]

What is the difference between Geste und Gebärde??

[native ember]

geste doesnt have to be physical

someone can bring you cake for example and you would say "Das ist eine nette Geste:

Gebärde aber is physical

its supposed to express words though hand movements

thats asl

Gebärdensprache

[fervent kernel]

I often heard "also" in the german spoken language, which I understand means "then", or "that is". What are other words alternative to "also" one can use?

[native ember]

also kann also be used as a beginning word to an explanation

but other words would be außerdem, gleichfalls

it depends on the context

[fervent kernel]

i feel that "also" is often used a bit too often, specially , as you said, at the beggining of an explanation, or a sentence. In that context, what other words, can be used so that it also sounds a bit natural and not weird?

[whole portal]

wdym also is used too often smh

[fervent kernel]

what does smh mean?

[whole portal]

shaking my head

jokingly

[fervent kernel]

ah okay

[whole portal]

it's a super common adverb and also a partikel so you'll hear it a lot, yeah

[fervent kernel]

I am looking for alternatives, to mix the usage

[whole portal]

I'd say in its usage as an adverb also can be translated as either "therefore" or "so"

If you're looking for alternatives in the therefore usage you have daher, darum, deswegen, demnach and folglich

[native ember]

yup, it gives a reason

like denn or weil

[whole portal]

the "so" usage you can't really change much about

[whole portal]

ergo, somit, demzufolge, dementsprechend

[fervent kernel]

<sentence 1> also <sentence 2> vs <sentence 1> weil <sentence 2> ?

to me it does not fit well

[whole portal]

yeah no weil is something else

[native ember]

yeah sorry

[whole portal]

Ich denke also bin ich.

[native ember]

bitte nicht mit dem beginnen

[fervent kernel]

<sentence 1> dementsprechend <sentence 2> ??

[whole portal]

Es regnet. Dementsprechend sind wir heute zu Hause geblieben.

[velvet venture]

As a level-A learner, you should focus on other things than alternatives for “also”.

[fervent kernel]

Danke für die Empfehlung, ich werde es überlegen

[fervent kernel]

can someone explain to me what I am supposed to do in this exercise

I am quite confused

[undone verge]

there's words that mean different things depending on which article is used

[fervent kernel]

oh

Now I got it

[undone verge]

for example, das Tor is a big gate or entrance whereas 'der Tor' means something else 😄

good

[fervent kernel]

lol didn't think it'd be that simple

[spice kite]

Is “ich hab” kind of like a slang or shorthand for “habe”?

[long whale]

Yes, it's pretty normal in colloquial German -> you may see it in dialogues in books, but not in formal written German.

[spice kite]

Danke!

[south zenith]

It goes for most German verbs
Ich werde - ich werd
Ich liebe - ich lieb
Ich kaufe - ich kauf
Etc

[spice kite]

Oh cool!

Are there any equivalents for like, “du, er, sie,” etc, or just for ich?

[quaint island]

Hey, can anyone please help me with

how to fix this? (the part is Italic)

Nachdem ich Deutschland verlassen hatte, musste ich in Neuseeland abnehmen.

[plush pelican]

I don't understand what needs fixing? At least as far as I can tell, it's grammatically correct, although the content is a little weird (What does losing weight have to do with leaving Germany?)

[south zenith]

just for ich as far as i am aware, at least for standard german, ive seen some short hands for others but that is kinda stepping into dialects

[spice kite]

Ah okay, was just curious, thanks!

[hushed dawn]

"Ein Großteil unserer Kommunikation läuft nonverbal ab"

Ich weis, dass ablaufen "expire" bedeutet, und habe durchgesucht die Bedeutung hier aber konnte es hier nicht verstanden.

[undone verge]

ablaufen is also like...happening. See definition 5 here:
https://de.wiktionary.org/wiki/ablaufen

[plush fjord]

what is the difference between kommen and gekommen

[undone verge]

gekommen is the past participle (partizip II) of kommen. You use it to build the perfect tense.
Ich komme zur Party. = I am coming to the party
Ich bin zur Party gekommen = I came to the party.

[plush fjord]

thanks

[hushed dawn]

Heißt "Der Mangel an" ein komplette abwesend von etwas , oder nur weniger Menge ?

[undone verge]

shortage

[whole portal]

Kann praktisch beides bedeuten

[undone verge]

also, heißt nicht unbedingt dass es gar nichts von etwas gibt, kann auch heißen, dass es zu wenig von etwas gibt.

[craggy beacon]

Excuse me,

How do I say

Stfu in German?

[whole portal]

Hdf

[coarse olive]

Hi, I bet this question's been asked a lot, however, which books of German authors would anyone recommend for B1-B2? Is there any list, apart from the 100 Gute Buecher on DW?

[long whale]

Well - which? At B1 I'd recommend reading something not overly complicated, preferably sth you'd read in English (or whatever your native language is) before, or some graded readers, or bilingual books. Once you've built up your vocabulary and grammar to B2, I'd go with whatever kind of books you really like, to help you remain motivated.

[coarse olive]

Okay, which B1 books would you recommend then? I've really been searching for them but haven't found anything except Cornelia Funke, if it doesn't bother you. Or other easy-to-read books

[long whale]

Reading any book by a German author is going to be really challenging at B1, which is why I'd recommend sth like Harry Potter (not that that's going to be easy, but at least it will be manageable with the help of the English version). Comic strips are also quite useful at B1 (lots of dialogue, very little description). If you insist, try "Momo" by Michael Ende, or sth by Kerstin Gier.

[coarse olive]

Thank you very much for your recommendations, I'll try!

[plush pelican]

https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B01LB6VTLK/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_hsch_vapi_tkin_p2_i9

These are B1-B2. The bundle deal is a good price and I'd recommend that.

Each chapter has translations of key difficult words at the end of the chapter, plus a short quiz to check comprehension

[coarse olive]

Sadly I can't buy anything on Amazon since all transactions there are disabled in Russia, but I'll save it for the future, thank you!

[plush pelican]

He also has his own website that you might be able to use: https://books.learnoutlive.com/category/baumgartner-momsen/

Not sure what payment processor is used for the website

Which payment options do you accept?

We accept PayPal and credit cards via our secured checkout. For alternative payment methods like Google/Apple Pay see our Gumroad store (offered products are identical).

[coarse olive]

Won't work

[plush pelican]

Well, I tried 🤷‍♂️

[coarse olive]

Can you name the books listed in this bundle though?

[plush pelican]

I believe it's these five bundled together at lower price:

[coarse olive]

Yeah, I mean, books in these bundles

[plush pelican]

Those are the books in the bundle

[coarse olive]

Oh God I'm sorry hahah, I didn't see

Very grateful for help ❤️

[acoustic breach]

"why do you think the sky is blue"
How do I say that in German?

My safe answers are:

• Was, denkst du, ist der Grund, weshalb der Himmel blau ist
• Warum ist der Himmel blau? Was denkst du?

"Warum denkst du, dass der Himmel blau ist" sounds more like "why do you think that the sky is blue? Did you see it with your eyes?"

Is my "safe answer" idiomatic? Are there other alternatives?

[verbal girder]

i think the second bullet is the best one? ("A" opinion)

[plain umbra]

I can't answer it but I'll add another alternative to the question: Warum ist der Himmel deiner Meinung nach blau?

[velvet venture]

Auch gut: „Warum, glaubst du, ist der Himmel blau?“

Warum, meinst du, ist der Himmel blau?

Was glaubst/meinst du, warum der Himmel blau ist?

[acoustic breach]

Danke @verbal girder @plain umbra @velvet venture !

[magic wave]

In term of pronouning military equipment model name do they speak the numbers like normal or separately pronounce the number like
e.g. M120 Mortar is it ,,M-Einhundertzwanzig'' or ,,M-EinZweiNull''?

[long whale]

Try checking the relevant German wikipedia entry. I can tell you only one thing: as an isolated number, 1 is always pronounced as "eins"

[magic wave]

Oh, ich habe es vergessen. Danke schön 😊

[hushed dawn]

"Die Hoffnung auf Überlebende unter der Schneelawine zu stoßen sinkt von Minute zu Minute."

Kann jemand erklärt, die bedeutung von "zu stoßen"... auch wenn es nicht ein Nomen ist, wie kann zwei Verben nacheinander stehen?

[undone verge]

Die Hoffnung (auf Überlebende unter der Schneelawine zu stoßen) sinkt von Minute zu Minute

auf Überlebende unter der Schneelawine zu stoßen = to encounter survivors under the avalanche
auf etw. stoßen = to stumble across something

[whole portal]

if you actually put commas to separate the clauses it makes sense

"Die Hoffnung, auf Überlebende unter der Schneelawine zu stoßen, sinkt von Minute zu Minute."

[ocean yarrow]

Hey!
Can someone please explain me what does the "uns" mean in "Wir treffen uns um acht Uhr"

Wir treffen is we meet
Um acht Uhr is at 8 o'clock

But what's "uns"?

[ripe dust]

This is a reflexsiv pronoun (and in accusative) of this verb. I can English nicht perfect, but I can translate it like "usself".

[ocean yarrow]

I didn't get it, can you tell me when should it be used?

[ripe dust]

Some verbs (that in everyday is used too) of German and other Europe's languages are a reflexiv:
-Ich schminke mich; Du rasierst dich; Wir treffen uns.

There is in English and French too.

[fervent kernel]

there are reflexive verbs such as sich treffen (to meet (someone)), sich waschen (to wash (oneself)), sich verletzen (to hurt (oneself)) and so on that require an object expressed mostly in the accusative case. In English, as far as I'm concerned, there are reflexive verbs as well, unfortunately, German reflexive verbs don't always correspond to English reflexive verbs, and that is the case. In this case the object is uns - the accusative case of wir. The literal translation of this sentence would sound like: We're meeting ourselves at 8 o'clock, but this sentence is grammatically incorrect, so the so-called normal translation would be: we're meeting at 8 o'clock. So uns basically stands for ourselves.

[ripe dust]

It's can be different. In your sentence: "Wir treffen uns" can be translated in English "we're meeting usself/ourself." But this is not correct, in English we don't say so.

And an another example from French: "-Je m'appele Lars.", But in German and English we never say "-I'm called Lars." or "-Ich heiße mich Lars.

Edit: In Slavic languages (I have it checked in Russian and Ukrainian.) this verb is used with the reflexive.

[fervent kernel]

I hope that gave some clearance to you.

[ripe dust]

I hope that I haven't you confused.

[timber sandal]

is um used for time phrases only?

[fervent kernel]

not really, no

[timber sandal]

but is it used to usually talk about time?

[fervent kernel]

well, um is actually a preposition as well. It can follow a verb, f. i., gehen um - the translation I would use is "to be about"; for example, "In dem Buch geht es um ein Mädchen, die sehr jung ist" – the translation "The book is about a girl who is very young".

[timber sandal]

oh thank you!

[fervent kernel]

I'm not a specimen in German, so I can't really give you more examples, but there should be more to it, I believe

[fervent kernel]

you're welcome!

[boreal swift]

How would you say

"It is not going to be possible to do it now"

Es wirt nicht möglich sein, es jetz zu tun.

[ocean yarrow]

That made a lot of sense and it answered my question
Thank you so much @ripe dust @fervent kernel!

[fervent kernel]

no problem!

[long whale]

Spelling: wird and jetzt - Yes, it works.

[boreal swift]

Ah,, my bad.. since wird is pronounced as wirt. I typed it as it is

[boreal swift]

danke!

Er hat ein Auto gefahren

Why is it hat instead of ist?

[long whale]

When you use a usually intransitive verb with a direct object, the auxiliary changes from "sein" to "haben". Would you like me to explain transitive/intransitive?

[boreal swift]

Yes, please

[long whale]

Some verbs cannot be used with a direct object, at least not usually. Think of "to die". You can't say He died his wife, anymore than you could say Er hat seine Frau gestorben, okay? Those are called intransitive verbs (they "carry" no direct object). And in German, they usually use "sein" as an auxiliary. Because we usually say "Er ist mit dem Auto gefahren". However, you can also use "fahren" transitively (similar to English), i.e. with a direct object, when you want to say sth like "He transported the car to Paris [by driving it]" -> Er hat (because of the direct object) das Auto (= direct object, Akkusativ) nach Paris gefahren.

This is particularly useful when you want to point out who the chauffeur was: Max hat den Bus gefahren = Max drove the bus, he was the chauffeur.

[boreal swift]

okay, understood, but is this only for 'fahren' or are there more similar verbs, since it can be used both transitively/intransitively?

[long whale]

Yes, there are others.

[boreal swift]

okay, I'll look it up. Thank you for the explanation. 🙏

[plush pelican]

Here's a video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuKLXCZHlmc

[ocean yarrow]

I'll watch this right now, thank you! :)

[charred harbor]

I believe the “die” should be “das”

[manic wedge]

Is the correct congugation of geben in the sentence: Peter gibt___ mir seinen Fuball.

[plush pelican]

Did you know you can look up conjugations of verbs?

https://conjugator.reverso.net/conjugation-german-verb-geben.html

[manic wedge]

Thank you

[plush pelican]

Also, you forgot the ß in Fußball

If you can't type the ß, replace it with double ss

Fussball

[manic wedge]

I appreciate it

Should Bebrauch be prounced with an ich or an ach

[plush pelican]

I don't know what "Bebrauch" is. Do you mean "Gebrauch"?

[manic wedge]

Yes, my bad I pasted it wrong

[plush pelican]

Did you know there's a website to listen to the pronunciation of German words?

https://forvo.com/word/gebrauch/#de

[manic wedge]

Thank you

[hushed dawn]

vorläufig = vorübergehend = temporär ?

[brave flint]

Der Anti-Stress-Kurs dauert 3 Wochen. Er dauert 4 Stunden täglich.

Ich glaube, etwas stimmt nicht.

How do I say that it's 4 hours a day everyday for 2 weeks?

[hushed dawn]

Reibung = friction
Aber Reibungslos = problemlos

Könnte Reibung auch "Problem" bedeuten ?

[brave flint]

Is it Der Kurs dauert täglich 4 Stunden für 2 Wochen ?

[undone verge]

frictionless = 'without friction' i.e. 'without anything hindering your movement' i.e. without problems

[timber sandal]

can anyone please explain this rule better where for example "Do I do my homework?"but that in german is "Mache ich meine Hausaufgaben?"

[charred harbor]

Is there any particular rule/thing you’re not sure on?

[timber sandal]

im just trying to know if there are any more rules regarding the "Do I" other than the verb being the first in the sentence

because ik that there isnt really "do i" in german so instead of that the first verb in the sentence will actually be the "do i"

just wondering if theres any more rules of that

[charred harbor]

For questions the only other points you really have to consider are conjugation (has to match for the subject/s, obviously) and tense

[timber sandal]

ok thank you!

[charred harbor]

Like if you wanted to ask “Are you doing your homework?” you wouldn’t use “mache” here

[timber sandal]

so just "do i"?

[charred harbor]

No, in German the same tense is used for both

Do you watch/are you watching (for example) would use the same tense in German

[vernal ermine]

Where I can correct my letter

[delicate tiger]

#writing

[hushed dawn]

ist es nicht immer, dass Nominalisierungen Verben "das" nehmen ? z.B, ich habe auf "schaden/ Der Schaden" gestoßen.

[long whale]

*ich bin auf X gestoßen - Yes, nominalized verbs are always neuter, and they always mean "the act of verb-ing". "der Schaden" (= damage) just happens to look exactly like the infinitive. It does not mean "the act of damaging".

[hushed dawn]

Ach so , komplex aber verstanden 🙂

[long whale]

Btw, you've seen this before without realizing it: "das Essen" = 1. food 2. the act of eating (and in this case it's just a coincidence that "food" has the same gender as the nominalized verb. ;) )

[hushed dawn]

Die Hilfe für vs Die Hilfe bei ??

[ocean sail]

Die Hilfe für = The help for
Die Hilfe bei = The help with

[hushed dawn]

Ich habe Schwierigkeit, sie zu benutzen. (auch auf Englisch)
Also zum Beispiel sagt man "Die Hilfe bei seiner Wohnungssuche" oder "Die Hilfe für seine Wohnungssuche".

Gibt es jede Tipps dafür ?

[acoustic breach]

Bei

Hilfe bei etw : someone helps to do the etw/ give assistance in doing the etw

[acoustic breach]

Hilfe für -> jemanden?

Also "die Hilfe ist für Nico"?

[long whale]

Well, I have a hard time coming up with a context where that would fit...

[acoustic breach]

I see, ok!

[ocean sail]

Same tbh. Only thing I can think of is like "Wir bieten Hilfe für junge Erwachsene an bei der Wohnungssuche."

[boreal swift]

Is this sentence correct and is it okay to have multiple commas in a sentence?

"I do not know if it is possible to do it, but I will try."
Ich weiß nicht, ob es möglich ist, es zu tun, aber ich werde versuchen.

[acoustic breach]

Ich weiß nicht*

Otherwise it looks fine to me

Commas are fine

@boreal swift

[timber sandal]

In German is it fine if u repeat some stuff?

[boreal swift]

Thanks! @acoustic breach

[acoustic breach]

Repeat which stuff?

[timber sandal]

like commas

If you were to grade an essay as a teacher, would it be fine if theres some repetition with commas?

[acoustic breach]

What is "comma repetition" 😅
Like how do you not repeat them

Btw the commas rules in German is quite fixed

Unlike English where it's more free

[timber sandal]

Ohhhh okay thank you!

[lament vigil]

Ein Komma steht zwischen Aufzählungen.
Ein Komma steht vor entgegensetzten Konjunktionen.
Ein Komma steht vor nachgestellten Zusätzen (Appositionen)
Ein Komma schließt Erläuterungen ein.
Ein Komma steht nach Stellungnahmen.
Ein Komma steht nach Ausrufen.
Ein Komma steht nach Anreden.
Ein Komma grenzt erweiterte Infinitive ab.

Wait il translate it,but I need some time haha

There is a comma between enumerations
There is a comma before opposite conjunctions
There is a comma before Appositionen(this is a grammatical particle)
A comma locks explanations
There is a comma after a statement/s
There is a comma after Ausrufen(honestly can think of an English word that explains this)
There is a comma after a form of adress(Guten Tag,Herr Schneider,)
A comma borders extended Infinitives

[timber sandal]

danke fur die hilfe!!

[lament vigil]

Bitte!

[long whale]

... aber ich werde es versuchen (doesn't work without the "es")

[timber sandal]

This question is not about German but, can i change roles if i think that ive improved?

[long whale]

Yes.

[timber sandal]

May I ask how can you do that?

[long whale]

#get-roles

[timber sandal]

Danke schon!

[long whale]

schön = nice, beautiful; schon = already

[timber sandal]

Ich habe keine Umlaute

[long whale]

Then at least insert an extra E: schoen/schön (and yes, that also works for the others). They are different letters, the dots aren't purely decorative. ;)

[timber sandal]

Danke schoen!

[boreal swift]

Ah.. okay, but if asked a question " Can you do it?" and reply to that would be "Ja, ich werde es versuchen" or "Ja, ich werde versuchen"

[long whale]

The same. Doesn't work without the "es".

[boreal swift]

okay. danke!

[boreal swift]

Ihr wiederholt den Satz
Er holt den Ball wieder

How does wiederholt act as both trennbar/untrennbar verb?

Ignore the above question, I think I got it

[velvet venture]

Oki

[plush pelican]

Just to be clear: some verbs are both trennbar and nicht trennbar, depending on the definition.

https://www.dartmouth.edu/~deutsch/Grammatik/Wortbildung/Inseparables.html#Either

[acoustic breach]

Wouldnt the case here just "holen" + adverb (or smtg else) "wieder"?

[boreal swift]

Hmm.. I understand, but it can be a bit tricky while writing a sentence.

[plush pelican]

Wiktionary usually lists out which definition is trennbar or not, if you're not sure

https://de.wiktionary.org/wiki/wiederholen

[boreal swift]

As far as I understand it become separable when the Präfix is emphazised right? like "wieder", "um", "über" ..

[plush pelican]

I suppose you didn't check this page? https://www.dartmouth.edu/~deutsch/Grammatik/Wortbildung/Inseparables.html#Either

Remember that in pronunciation, the separable prefix is stressed: "ÜBERsetzen". When the prefix is inseparable, it is not stressed: "überSETZen."

[boreal swift]

Ah..okay got it! Thank you @plush pelican

[shut briar]

Ich bin auf eine neue Redewendung gestoßen (das sagt man oder?)

Das Blaue vom Himmel erzählen

Ich verstehe leider die Bedeutung nicht

Henriette und Jonathan bewundern Laura immer für ihre tollen Ausreden, wenn sie die Hausaufgaben mal nicht gemacht hat. Die holt da Geschichten aus dem Ärmel, die selbst die strenge Chemielehrerin schluckt. Beim letzten Mal meinte Jonathan nur noch: „Die kann dir das Blaue vom Himmel erzählen!“

Hier wird es versucht zu erklären

Also hatte ich angenommen, das es bedeutet, sehr gut zu lügen?

Aber laut der weiteren Erklärung stimmt es nicht

[plush pelican]

I think it's more usually "das Blaue vom Himmer lügen"

https://www.dict.cc/?s=das+Blaue+vom+Himmel+lügen

meaning to lie through your teeth

[shut briar]

https://magazin.sofatutor.com/schueler/blaue-vom-himmel-erzahlen/

[plush pelican]

Do you know the rest of the sentence?

[plush pelican]

Uh.... last sentence:

Wer also „das Blaue vom Himmel erzählt“ (oft heißt es auch direkter „das Blaue vom Himmel herunterlügen“), schwindelt offensichtlich und ist dabei ziemlich unverschämt.

[shut briar]

So it's a variation?

[plush pelican]

translate that sentence, man

[shut briar]

Schon gemacht

[plush pelican]

I don't think you're understanding what that site is saying, if you think it doesn't mean to lie

[plush pelican]

I think so, you know, we do variations on expressions in English as well

[shut briar]

Ok, so before there is a line that says she tells the most clever lies that even the most strict chemistry teacher will swallow. Then it says it's offensichtlich. So that's my confusion

[plush pelican]

I mean, what's obvious to some as lies, isn't obvious to others

I would take the expression to be less about how good or bad someone lies, and more to just mean, "they lie a lot, all the time, and they have no shame about doing so"

[shut briar]

Hmm I see

[plush pelican]

But that's just my interpretation, I'm not a native speaker

[shut briar]

It's also confusing because shouldn't it mean telling the obvious

The sky is obviously blue

[plush pelican]

I think you might understand it as, "She's so skilled at lying, she can sell an obvious lie"

[shut briar]

Ahh

[plush pelican]

also, apparently the color blue in medieval times in Germany was the color of deception?

[shut briar]

Right

[south zenith]

also with the connotation of it doesnt bother her it seems

she does it unshamefuly

[shut briar]

Yes unverschämt part seems to be definitely connected. I came across this from momo and it has the same connotation

[shut briar]

Dieser Satz hier ist richtig oder?

[gusty silo]

✅

Nur beim Teil in Klammern würde ich sagen, sollte ein so hinzugefügt werden (d.h. das sagt man so, oder?)

[shut briar]

Ach so. Also meinte ich eher, ob man das sagt, also ist es üblich zu sagen, oder es ist keine Kollokation und es macht keinen Sinn. Auf Englisch wäre es vielleicht "that's a thing right that people say" Auch in diesem Fall ist deine Satz richtiger?

[gusty silo]

trotzdem

Ich würde halt entweder »Sagt man das (so)?« oder »Das sagt man so, oder?« sagen

»Das sagt man, oder?« klingt ein bisschen ungewöhnlich, finde ich 😄

also in diesem Fall

[shut briar]

Verstanden

@gusty silo also vielen Dank, dass du so etwas kleines korrigiert hast. Mann kann fortgeschrittenen Wortschatz lernen, aber natürliche Satzstruktur ist mir wichtiger

[gusty silo]

👍

[long whale]

@shut briar Remember the German word "man/general you" only gets 1 n. ;)

[shut briar]

Oops 🙊

Very silly mistake to make at this level

[vernal ermine]

Can I say what you eat at the breakfast/what you eat for the breakfast

[undone verge]

for translations, you can try deepl

'zum Frühstück' = for breakfast

so you could ask like "was hast du zum Frühstück gegessen"
there's also the verb "frühstücken", so you could also say: "was hast du heute gefrühstückt"

[coarse siren]

Gibt es Websites, die mir beim Erlernen von Sätzen helfen?

[vernal ermine]

How we say it at present tense.

[ripe dust]

Was isst du zum Frühstück?

[vernal ermine]

Danke

[sleek pulsar]

Ich habe eine wirkliche dumme Frage, kann man etwas wie "mir gefällt die Folge sehr" sagen oder muss man nur "die Folge gefällt mir sehr" sagen? Ich glaube, es ist eine einfache Frage aber ich habe so viele Dinge vergessen, ich glaube, ich habe vielleicht kein B-Niveau mehr

[undone verge]

mir darf an der ersten Stelle stehen 🙂

klingt sogar gut

[sleek pulsar]

Oh ok cool

Danke schön 👍

[old roost]

Is austragen as deliver rare to use? I only found the word on an exam text but never see it anywhere. liefern/ausliefern looks more common to me

[random orchid]

"austragen" is used when you for example delivering the newspaper. "Zeitung austragen" is a common job for teenagers in germany

there is another meaning for "austragen" but I guess thats another story

[hushed dawn]

sich über etwas wündern vs verwundern ?

[whole portal]

wündern is not a word

[lament vigil]

You mean wundern?

[vernal ermine]

Sie wollen heute Abend mit einem Freund / einer Freundin ins Kino gehen. Sie sind aber krank und können nicht.

[vernal ermine]

What is the meaning of Sie in this context.

[lethal tendon]

I suppose it's "you"

[vernal ermine]

Can you tell what is meaning of the above sentence s

[lethal tendon]

You want to go with a friend (male or female) to the cinema tonight. However, you're sick and can't go.

[vernal ermine]

For the second sentence, But they are sick and can't go. I think it also gives this meaning also?

[lethal tendon]

Yes

aber = but

I only tried to make it sound more natural

[vernal ermine]

But what meaning do I have to consider to write a letter?

[lethal tendon]

it's more like "but"

actually

[vernal ermine]

No I am asking about you or they

[lethal tendon]

it sounds like an instruction

so you have to write to that friend you wanted to go out with, I suppose

[midnight fog]

"Sie" is the same word for both "you" and "they", even though those words have different meaning

So you can use it in every case where you want to use it as "they" and if you want to use it as "you" then it is a formal manner, for example if you write a letter to someone you don't know really good

[vernal ermine]

This is from a letter question. What meaning should I consider and write a letter

Is gehen dativ or akkusative verb

@acoustic breach ?

[acoustic breach]

Gehen is intransitiv

And it needs a preposition to indicate the destination

And whether the destination is Akkusativ or Dativ, it depends

[vernal ermine]

Wie geht es Ihnen?

[vernal ermine]

In this question how they used Ihnen instead of Sie? @acoustic breach

Lieber Paul,
tut mir sehr leid, ich kann heute nicht kommen.Ich habe Magenschmerz. Ich muss mich ausrehen. So wir können Morgenabend ins Kino gehen. Ich freue mich auf deine Antwort.

Mit Liebe Grüße,
Jack Victor.

@velvet venture when you are free. Please correct it.

[acoustic breach]

Ihnen is Dative of Sie

Wie geht es: how is it going

Wie geht es Ihnen: how is it going, for you

This Dativ here is not really strongly binded to the word "gehen", like you dont neccesarily need a Dativ everytime you use "gehen", unlike many other verbs

[vernal ermine]

Danke schon

[velvet venture]

Lieber Paul,

tut mir sehr leid, ich kann heute nicht kommen. Ich habe Magenschmerzen. Ich muss mich ausruhen. Wir können aber morgen Abend ins Kino gehen. Ich freue mich auf deine Antwort.

Liebe Grüße

Jack Victor

Note: “Mit lieben Grüßen” is uncommon as a greeting, you say “Mit freundlichen Grüßen” formally and “Liebe/Viele Grüße” informally.

[vernal ermine]

Vielen Dank

[velvet venture]

Gern geschehen :)

[long whale]

@velvet venture These days, there can't be a comma after the signing-off/goodbye formula - just thought you might be interested.

[velvet venture]

Oh, you are right. Forgot to correct that

[proven sphinx]

Wusstest du, dass es da einen kleinen Unterschied zwischen dem Bundesdeutschen und dem Schweizer Standarddeutschen gibt? Soweit ich weiß, schreibt man in Deutschland in einem Brief immer ein Komma nach "Liebe/r X" , aber in der Schweiz macht man das eher nicht. Man würde das einfach so schreiben, also ohne Komma:

"Lieber Paul

Tut mir sehr leid, (...)"

[velvet venture]

Wusste ich nicht, danke, gut zu wissen!

[proven sphinx]

https://www.uwefreund.com/fraguwe-de/briefe-emails/was-muss-ich-bei-briefen-und-e-mails-die-schweiz-beachten/

Hier werden auch noch ein paar andere Unterschiede aufgezählt.

@velvet venture Der in Deutschland verwendete Begriff „Anlage“ für beigelegte Unterlagen heißt in der Schweiz „Beilage“. Besser ist es, sowohl in Deutschland als auch in der Schweiz diese Begriffe im Text zu ersetzen durch „Mit diesem Schreiben erhalten Sie …“ oder „Mit dieser E-Mail erhalten Sie …“

Alter, stimmt das wirklich? Schreibt man in Deutschland denn etwa "In der Anlage finden Sie die Dokumente"?