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[upper bridge]

Hallo

[cold iris]

"Vor dem Betreten der Eisfläche wird gewarnt. Es besteht Lebensgefahr"

What is the subject of the first sentence? What goes with the "wird"?

I get the idea, something like "Warning before going on the ice. There is danger to your life". But the structure of the sentence confuses me.

[spiral vapor]

it's like "be warned"

[cold iris]

Yeah I get the meaning but I just don't know what the subject of the sentence is. I see nothing that pairs with the "wird"

It looks kind of like imperative to me but "wird" is not imperative.

Or is there an implied dummy subject like "es"?

[spiral vapor]

I'm trying to tackle it but idk

I think "es" would make most sense gramatically

es wird gewarnt

[cold iris]

Yeah that makes sense. Thanks for the help

[opaque egret]

Is: "sie ist meine Cousine" correct for "She is my cousin"? Does Kusine also mean cousin? Which is correct?

[hollow wadi]

"sie" should be capitalized. And yes, both variants are correct.

[long whale]

It's called "subjectless passive", I think. ;)

[cold iris]

ooo thank you!

[vital iris]

When is it ok to use "verletzen" and when is it better to use "weh tun"

[vital iris]

Also, when to use "ich hatte + verb" instead of "ich habe + verb"

[undone verge]

if be verb you mean past participle: habe/sein + partizip 2 = perfekt tense
hatte/war + partizip 2 = plusquamperfekt, a rarely used tense used to talk about events 'before' in the past.

you'll most often find the latter with particular conjunctions like 'bevor' or 'nachdem'

'bevor ich mir die Zähne geputzt habe, hatte ich gefrühstückt.'
'Nachdem ich ausm Fenster gekuckt hatte, habe ich vor Freude getanzt. (Schnee!)'

[vital iris]

I think the latter is also more used in Schreiben than Sprechen ?

[undone verge]

which latter?

note: it's not a case of perfekt/präteritum, where both cases are equivalent and one is used more in writing the other speaking. These are legitimately different tenses with different use cases. That said, plusquamperfekt is not used that much in general, and yes even less by speaking

[vital iris]

I did some additional research and it seems that it should be used when describing actions started and completed in the past. Is that correct ?

[long whale]

Plusquamperfekt works pretty much like English past perfect - see hallö_hierchen's examples. You use Plusquamperfekt when talking about 2 consecutive events in the past: the earlier one gets Plusquamperfekt.

[vital iris]

Ahhh okey thank you

[vital iris]

Is bauen used strictly for buildings or can it be used like english when one says: "He is building his own company"
"Er baut ein Firma"

[trail granite]

You can't use "bauen" but you may use "aufbauen".
"Er baut eine Firma auf."
@vital iris

[narrow pier]

Die Flüchtlingsboote starten meistens an den Stränden westlich von Tripolis, und die Schiffe der Seenotrettung fahren in der Region nach einem speziellen Suchmuster auf und ab.

hello ( the highlighted part ) are those with the ( fahren ), meaning they are part of ( trennbare verben ---> auffahren und abfahren )

meaning the ships going up an ocean and down, as in if you are looking from south to north of the ocean, sailing from south to north would be ( auffahren ) right?

.

presumably are these verbs also used for going up and down a mountain?

[narrow pier]

this does not mean he builded the company as in ( layed bricks ) but he like founded the company right?

[trail granite]

"Er baut eine Firma auf" means something like "He founded a company"

[narrow pier]

so I was right, ok thank youuu

[gusty silo]

i want to say yes, but no.
you may be getting the idea, but are wrongly associating the auf- and ab- with particular directions.
auf und abfahren here just means to imply they're looking everywhere, or going with their boats in various directions. the directions themselves are completely irrelevant though.

the idea is on an abstract level that, yes, up and down are various directions one might go, or where one might look for something, but no actual direction is implied in the concrete situation

auffahren is not about sailing or driving north, abfahren is not about sailing or driving south

infact "ab-" on its own already has a context-appropriate meaning with locations or paths, namely it reinforces the idea of covering the area.
"eine Strecke abfahren/abgehen" means to drive/walk along the entirety of a path from start to finish.
"das Gelände absuchen" means to search all across some specified area or terrain for something
your example sentence is saying the the boats are sailing up and down, all across this part of the sea. but the cardinal direction north/south/east/west are entirely irrelevant and no actual comment is made on which direction the boats' path is in

[opaque egret]

Ohh okay thank you. So theres no specific time to use either.. both words just work?

[fervent kernel]

is German Plusquamperfekt sometimes dropped in casual speech like English past perfect?

[brave sedge]

what would be the best way to improve german vocabulary?

[deft perch]

Depends on you personally I liked to play video games with German and note new words I played Hollow Knight and Celeste, if that'd help

[brave sedge]

ah thats a nice idea, might try it with movies, watching english movies with german subtitles or dubbed

[deft perch]

Viel Spaß beim Lernen

[brave sedge]

vielen Dank

[vital iris]

thanks

[deep pewter]

Hallo,
kann mir bitte jemand den Unterschied zwischen dem Seminar und der Vorlesung erklären?

[reef moss]

The former is interactive, where the students and professor speak with one another, whereas the latter is generally just the professor lecturing with no student interaction

[rocky sorrel]

Ein Seminar ist normalerweise in einer kleineren bis mittleren Gruppe, was es eher ermöglicht mit dem Lehrenden zu kommunizieren. Bei einer Vorlesung sind es meist größere Gruppen, wo kaum bis garnicht mit den Zuhörern interagiert wird.

[deep pewter]

Danke Euch beiden 😁

[violet venture]

what is the difference between student and studentin?

[charred harbor]

Student is a male student or a student of unspecified gender
Studentin is a specifically female student @violet venture

You’ll see a lot of words with -in double-ups and they pretty much all work this way (male and unspecified no ending, -in ending one female)
eg Freund Freundin, Nachbar Nachbarin

[violet venture]

i think i understand now danke schön

[next wren]

Es heißt Moin! Moin Moin ist schon Gesabbel. What does Gesabbel mean?

[timid vector]

https://m.dict.cc/deutsch-englisch/Gesabbel.html

[river wharf]

i did my A1 course months ago and took 62 and now am starting with A2...i had forgoted almost all ...do anyone has suggestions fr revision

[coral ginkgo]

Hello! Where would I be able to vc one on one with a level c speaker to help me pronunciation better

(Or anyone for that matter)

[knotty star]

"Und was hätten Sie gern für Vorspeisen und Nachspeisen?"

Does "Nachspeisen" here means the meal after "Vorspeisen", which is the main course or is it just literally translated to "dessert"?

[spiral vapor]

try #pronunciation

[deft perch]

the normal consequence should be: Vorspeisen → Essen → Nachspeisen 🤷 if that answers your question

[earnest arch]

Vorspeise > Hauptspeise > Nachspeise

[nova sparrow]

With the same meaning you can also use hin und her ...

[formal saffron]

take these 2 slightly different sentences

1. "my pen is the pen i am writing with"
2. "the pen i am writing with is my pen"

in the first, the subject is my pen, described as the pen i am writing with, whereas in the second sentence, the subject is the pen i am writing with, described as my pen. In english we change the subject by changing the sentence order, but in german the subject changes based on the declensions. i'll attempt to translate these two sentences into german while keeping the same order, namely "mein stift" "der stift" + "action" is the following correct?

1. mein Stift, ist den Stift damit ich schreiben.
2. meinem Stift, ist der Stift damit ich schreiben.

is my declension properly changing the subject of the sentence like in the english examples?

[delicate tiger]

"Mein Stift ist der Stift, mit dem ich schreibe"
"Der Stift, mit dem ich schreibe, ist mein Stift"

[formal saffron]

i'll send a few more sentences to see if i can get any right at all lol

but it seems like the word order has to change anyway in German too?

[delicate tiger]

"sein" uses Nominativ twice; you can switch around most elements as long as the verb stays in position 2

[formal saffron]

oh i see

[delicate tiger]

both sentences are just variations and are fully equivalent

[formal saffron]

yeah im trying to learn to discern between the cases idk it's still a bit confusing

Some more i tried:

The man received money from the cashier.
Der Mann bekommt geld von den Kassier.

The cashier gave money to the man.
Der Kassier hat den Mann geld gegebt.

The boy touched the dog's furry head.
Der Junge berührt den pelzig Kopf des Hund.

The dog's furry head had touched the boy.
Der Pelzig Kopf des Hund hatte der Junge berühren.

I lost my bank card in poland.
Ich hatte meine Karte in Polen verloren.

My bank card was lost by me in Poland.
wegen ich, meine Karte wird in Polen verlosen.

My phone rings when my mother calls it.
Mein Handy klingt wenn meinen Mutter ihn anrufen.

My mother calls my phone and it rings
Meine Mutter ruft mein Handy an und sie klingt.

[delicate tiger]

Der Mann bekommt Geld vom (von dem) Kassierer. ["Kassier" for Austrian/Swiss dialect; with French pronunciation]
Der Kassier hat dem Mann Geld gegeben.
Der Junge berührt den pelzigen Kopf des Hundes.
Der pelzige Kopf des Hundes hat den Jungen berührt.
Ich habe meine Karte in Polen verloren.
Meine Karte wurde in Polen von mir verloren.
Mein Handy klingelt, wenn meine Mutter mich anruft.
Meine Mutter ruft mich an und mein Handy klingelt.

[formal saffron]

thank youuu, more study required!

[fervent scroll]

dem Mann Geld gegeben

no?

[formal saffron]

mann is taking the weak akkusativ declension because of der kassier being the nominativ first

i think

[delicate tiger]

korrigiert

[tropic falcon]

Is this grammatically correct?:
Dieses Spiel muss Jeder mal gespielt haben.

[delicate tiger]

Mal->mal

[tropic falcon]

Sonst ist alles okay?

Ich habe jemanden das sagen hören, aber war nicht sicher ob man so überhaupt sagen darf

[wise pendant]

Wenn ein Muttersprachler etwas sagt, dann kannst du das auch so sagen. Ohne wenn und aber

[tropic falcon]

Okay... Aber manchmal ist es etwas "umgangssprachliches" und während der Prüfung kann man so nicht sagen

[viral jolt]

naja vor ein paar Tagen habe ich diesen Typ auf dem Server gesehen der sagte: ich hab Angst von mein Vater.
ich bin noch traumatisiert

[wise pendant]

Ok klar, Schul- und Prüfungsszenarien ausgenommen, weil die sowieso häufiger an der Realität vorbeilaufen

[tropic falcon]

[wise pendant]

Hast du es gehört, oder wurde es geschrieben?

[viral jolt]

geschrieben eigentlich

[inner shoal]

Ist Familie Sache oder Person?

[wise pendant]

Was ist der Kontext?

[fervent kernel]

Ist das eine Frage

[inner shoal]

For forming questions with verbs with prepositions. Yknow when its a person Für wen interessierst du dich? while for a thing its Wofür interessierst du dich? So which will be for Familie

[deft perch]

Not sure - but I think it should be wofür

[glass hawk]

Do you have a dialogue? The context of the preceding sentence(s) that would lead to '[Wofür/Für wen] interessierst du dich?" might help.

[timid vector]

jeder also isn't capitalized

[tropic falcon]

Why tho, it's a noun here

[glass hawk]

It's a pronoun, not a noun.

[tropic falcon]

Ah lol, okay

[stable current]

@topaz burrow do you have an example of a sentence where noch doesn't fit?

[topaz burrow]

Lemme get one

Weil er einen Speckbauch hat, isst er für eine Woche nur noch Salat.

@stable current

[long whale]

Ah! But that's "nur noch" which is like a combination of "now" and "only"

... now, he will only eat salad for a week.

[topaz burrow]

But how would u say that with because

Because it's has weil in the sentence

[long whale]

Because he's run to fat, now, he'll only eat salad for a week. 🤷

(Yeah, a bit awkward in English, but you get my drift, don't you?)

[stable current]

speckbauch is the real challenge word here lol

because he has an upset stomach (approx.), he'll only eat salad for a week

[long whale]

No, no! "love handles" - that's it. Only not nearly as cute in German. In fact "Speckbauch" sounds quite yucky...

[stable current]

lol

[long whale]

literally: fatty-bacon-tummy 😄

[stable current]

ohhh

but regarding the earlier comment:

As if it was thrown into the sentence with no meaning
i wanted to note this because this is actually a thing that is done with many words, they're called modal particles. they're used to change the tone of a sentence, and some of them can have pretty confusing or minor effects. there aren't really modal particles in english (for some reason) but they do show up a lot in other languages and it's worth nothing they exist.

the best way to learn them in my experience is just to see a lot of sentences with them used and occasionally get corrected

sie sind (doch) nicht so schwer

[stable current]

i wonder if a good idiomatic english equivalent is "food coma"

[topaz burrow]

Because he's run to fat?

What does that even mean

Is that a metaphor or some

[stable current]

speckbauch is a hard word to translate lol

[topaz burrow]

Pot belly

Ez

[long whale]

Because he has become fat. (It means this kind of "overhang" men get when they're overweight)

[topaz burrow]

Basically pot belly

[stable current]

yeah that

[long whale]

💡

[stable current]

found a reference for = potbelly

https://de.thefreedictionary.com/Speckbauch listed under übersetzungen

anyways here's a nice list to get started. don't try to memorize all these, the point is to show that they show up a lot and that they have complicated definitions that should really best be acquired through exposure to the language https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_modal_particles

i still struggle with "eben" but it's getting there

[long whale]

Also, https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/run+to+fat

[stable current]

ich möchte "eben" versehen, aber ich bin eben nicht bereit

noch works better there 99% sure

es ist eben ein schweres wort

[long whale]

... eben noch nicht bereit ;) What, and this doesn't help? https://www.dwds.de/wb/eben#2 ? (Mind you, it's got 2 tabs)

[stable current]

bis jetzt habe ich doch nie von dieser Site gehört.

[long whale]

*noch nie

[stable current]

doch noch nie

[long whale]

Why "doch"?

[stable current]

i imagine doch as saying "contrary to what you might think"

so if you show me a site i've never seen then i can say "on the contrary i have no idea what this is"

or something to that effect

but noch nie is definitely better

i'll have to pay closer attention to it next time i'm reading

i'm still not very good at multiple modal particles, i only just recently figured out how "schon" works lol

anyways really gotta sleep, thanks for the corrections, i'll process them tomorrow

[long whale]

Hmm... 🤔 I'd say there is a hint of upset in "doch" - as if I'd implied you were stupid (or at least a bit ditzy) for not checking DWDS. Which I definitely hadn't. So... 🤷

[tropic thistle]

beer gut would sort of be my "comestible" approach to translation, i think, though potbelly is also good

[long whale]

I'm not sure - do potbelly and/or beer gut imply the kind of flab I (reluctantly) envision when I hear "Speckbauch"?

[tropic thistle]

is a Bierplauze/bauch significantly firmer to you than a Speckbauch? I admit I hadn't considered texture, mostly protrusion/shape, but intuitively I would say there's very little difference

[long whale]

What an interesting question... 😄

[deep pewter]

Hello,
I'm trying to unterstand the difference between "überlegen" and "sich überlegen". Could anyone please write a couple of sentences where I should decide what sounds appropriate? Thank you in advance

[long whale]

II. here: https://www.dwds.de/wb/überlegen

[deep pewter]

Danke, ich habe die Regeln gelesen

Ich mache immer noch Fehler leider, wenn ich sie benutze. Deshalb versuche ich dazu Aufgaben zu finden 🙏

[long whale]

Well... I'd say the reflexive version, which is the more personal one, as in "I'm thinking about it/I have to/will think about it" is far more common. The other one is more for "it's worth a thought".

[lilac cave]

"Sie sind keine Frau, sie sind ein Mann" is this correct, I wanted it to mean "They're not a woman, they're a man"

[deft perch]

It sounds weird for me, I would say: [Das ist keine Frau, sondern ein Mann]

[lilac cave]

Danke

[lilac cave]

?

[long whale]

There are no gender-neutral pronouns in German (at least no generally accepted ones) -> "they are/sie sind" does not work for singular the way it does in English.

[pliant beacon]

then how does a nonbinary person exist in German?

[plain umbra]

Well, a person's existence/gender is not dependent on the language they speak.

There is no formally accepted non-binary pronoun option, aside from "es" possibly, which is not a popular choice for non-binary people and not something you should opt to use by default, but you may see it used by a few people.

There are definitely neopronouns though in German.

You can find some info here about it: https://nibi.space/geschlechtsneutrale_sprache

[lilac cave]

So to clarify "sie sind" is just wrong.

[long whale]

With a singular, yes. Unless you're talking directly (and formally!) to the person concerned: "You aren't a woman, you're a man" -> Sie sind keine Frau, Sie sind ein Mann.

[lilac cave]

Thanks

[narrow pier]

what do you mean, the question I asked ( #questions-2 messagecan )

that particular meaning can be done with ( herfahren and hinfahren ) but not ab and auf

[narrow pier]

Thank you so much, you are explaining it really well, so can I use this meaning of ab when it is with other verbs, for examples I do not see it would make that meaning you said with ( absagen )

so what particularly do you mean ( it has it's own context )

and btw you explain really well, thank you so much

[narrow pier]

so anytime ab was used in a verb or a sentence and I sensed it has something to do with direction it means ( they went on a path or they covered the entirety of path ) meaning it is unclear which direction and it is not particular on direction

[narrow pier]

so if they are used as going up and down, there has to be some other kind of indicator in the sentence that implies that the car or ship or the thing went up and down that path?

[topaz bluff]

Idk where else to ask but is anyone willing to be a study partner with me? also kinda just want a freind please ignore that

[slim temple]

ive seen people use sie*er

https://www.hanser-literaturverlage.de/buch/an-alle-orte-die-hinter-uns-liegen/978-3-446-27291-0/

for example the author of this book is non-binary and is referred to with sie*er

[crisp sphinx]

Dieses Buch sieht cool aus

Interessant

[long whale]

"The prefix "ab-" usually - but not always - carries the notion of "away from"." (From https://www.dartmouth.edu/~deutsch/Grammatik/Wortbildung/Separables.html#ab) So, yes. ;)

[long whale]

Yes. Although apart from "auf und ab" not much occurs to me. ;)

[narrow pier]

Thank you so much

@long whale

[fervent kernel]

what is zustandpassiv and zustandreflextiv?

[deft perch]

**Vorgangspassiv (werden + Partizip Perfekt) **describes the process of an action. Zustandspassiv (sein + Partizip Perfekt) describes the state after a completed action.
I don't really know much about Zustandsreflextiv

[fervent kernel]

out of curiosity
what are the most esoteric prateritum/k2/k1 verb forms?

[trail granite]

I like "schwömme", the k2 of "schwimmen"

[long whale]

I'd say the question is rather "Why does English do it this way?" Because the guy's a secretary, not a general, right? And the word specifying what kind of noun it is comes first in German: der Blumentopf is a pot. What kind of pot? One for flowers. ;)

[rancid drift]

Darn I never thought of that.

[wise ravine]

thanks thats a good explanation i will remember that

[stoic mauve]

No command or module called noch found.

FAQ not found. Try >explain all.

[long whale]

Perhaps have a look at this: https://de.pons.com/übersetzung/deutsch-englisch/noch See whether it helps.

[loud carbon]

https://open.spotify.com/track/0UkZDbVM7DQL2sIoIFZjXu?si=WwH8ODpETXGzL-jb-VPbbw

Kann jemand mir sagen welche Sprache dieses Lied ist?

Ich kann’s schon 40% verstehen. Es klingt irgendwie wie eine Mischung von Deutsch und Niederländisch, dennoch haben meine Freunde gesagt, dass es keines von beiden ist

[steel patrol]

Swiss German, apparently.

[oak prawn]

Hello , am looking for the audio of this book "Diktate - hören - schreiben - korrigieren: Deutsch üben "
I already found the PDf . Any one has an idea where i can find it ?
Thank you !

[long whale]

Yup. ;)

[sly ferry]

They are both correct and there's no difference in meaning

[fervent kernel]

what does it say at the end of the song?
https://open.spotify.com/track/2UQYVFUrqybUciB3ULiysS?si=e75d3922c55a4e0f

not sure if its german but its a german ch

[brave harbor]

its french, can't really make out what they're saying tho

[fervent kernel]

does french also use that sound?

[brave harbor]

french doesnt have the "ch", but the "sch". i dont hear either here, to me it sounds like it says "la fraitont(??) de nuit", -> die (something) der Nacht

[small urchin]

was machst du den gerade

Is "den" a modal particle?

[noble aspen]

"Was machst du den gerade" isn't correct. U need to write: "Was machst du denn gerade?"

"Denn" is a conjunction, a undergroup of particles

[small urchin]

Thank you!
(btw that was written by a native speaker)

[noble aspen]

German is hard for native speakers too hahah That's kinda sad, but you didn't see it last time, I'm sure hahaha

German has many rules and sometimes I'm struggling too, because there are exceptions

[full sentinel]

can modern germans understand old german (medieval ) texts?

[noble aspen]

There are different types of medival texts.
"Frühneuhochdeutsch", "Althochdeutsch", "Mittelhochdeutsch".

"Althochdeutsch" and "Mittelhochdeutsch" are hard to understand. Because they had a completely other vocabulary and spelling. You can suppose what there is written, but I've seen some texts in school of old german versions. I did understand, what the text was talking about, but I didn't understand every word. "Frühneuhochdeutsch" is understandable - But not easy.

Look over here:

Die Geschichte der (hoch-)deutschen Sprache wird häufig in vier Abschnitte (Sprachstufen) unterteilt:
• 750–1050: Althochdeutsch
• 1050–1350: Mittelhochdeutsch
• 1350–1650: Frühneuhochdeutsch

the numbers are the time, when the language were used

3. Ein fasnachtspiel mit sechs personen:
   Ein wirt, kerner, kremer, petelmünich,
   rewter vnd ein ziegeuner vnd haist:
   Die 5 elenden wandrer.

Der wirt drit ein:
ICh pin ain wirt der armen gest,
Den ich doch thw das aller pest.
So vil der kumen in mein haus,
Der treib ich kainen von mir aus,
5
Sundr ich gieb im drincken vnd essen.
Vnd wen er ain weil ist gesessen
Int nacht, gieb ich im ain schlaffdrunck
Vnd leg in darnach warm genunck.
Vor er aufstet von seiner rw,
10
Schenck ich im drey pazen darzw,
Wo er die nacht in meinem haus
Der ermest gast ist vberaus
Vnter alln gestn, die pey mir waren.
Das hab ich trieben pey zwainzg jaren,
15
Hab an mein gesten nichs gewunen,
Jdoch ist mir nie gelz zerunen;
Ob ich gleich nit vil gelz thw lösen,
Duet mirs got dester pas ersprösen,
Die weil vnd ich mich thw erparmen
20
Vber die elenden vnd armen.

[noble aspen]

this is written in Frühneuhochdeutsch

https://de.wikisource.org/wiki/Kategorie:Frühneuhochdeutsch

Here are more texts in these languages

[fervent kernel]

can you say both "Wir sind meiner Mutter jede Nacht in der U-Bahn begegnet. " and "Wir sind meiner Mutter in der U-Bahn in jeder Nacht begegnet. "?

[wise pendant]

Nacht is a noun and thus needs to be capitalized. It's also either "in jeder Nacht" or "jede Nacht" but not "jeder Nacht"

[fervent kernel]

ok fixed

can you say both?

[wise pendant]

As long as the verb is at the correct position and the subject close by, you can arrange parts of a sentence all you want to create emphasis.

So both are fine

[fervent kernel]

edited again (changed 2nd jeder nacht)

[fervent kernel]

what emphasis does each make

[wise pendant]

The standard order is TeKaMoLo, you might have heard it before. Without any additional vocal stress, the emphasize in the second sentence would be on "in der U-Bahn" I'd say

[fervent kernel]

what emphasis does moving each to each position make?

[wise pendant]

This is just a guess, but I'd say placing parts of a sentence closer to the beginning of the sentence makes them stand out more.

[fervent kernel]

also is word order the final boss of german

[wise pendant]

I mean as its pretty flexible there is less room for error

If you got the general rule down

After having gotten enough exposure of German sentences the rules will more and more ingrain into your brain, so it eventually will all seem easier and easier over time

[fervent kernel]

ok danke

@wise pendant i, "Ich könnte Bäumen früher finden", is "Bäumen" under the mo in tekamolo?

[wise pendant]

That sentence makes no sense

[fervent kernel]

okay fine

"Ich könnte Bäumen früher schneiden"

[wise pendant]

"Ich könnte (die) Bäume früher finden/schneiden"

[fervent kernel]

ok

so is die Bäume under the mo in tekamolo?

@wise pendant

https://www.dartmouth.edu/~deutsch/Grammatik/WordOrder/WordOrder.html

i tried readin gthis and didn't understand where the object goes

Viele Ehemänner sehen jeden Sonntag zum Entsetzen ihrer Frauen völlig passiv in ihrem Lieblingssessel alle Sportsendung
why does it go to the end here, but right after the verb in "Ich könnte Bäumen früher finden"?

[topaz burrow]

@stable current

Can you give me another sentence where noch would mean "still"

[fervent kernel]

I'll just ask it like that:

What goes first in a sentence, the adverbs or akkusativ object?

[haughty sedge]

"Mein Bruder ist vierten. Er hat am vier Mai Geburtstag."
Is this a valid sentence?

[noble aspen]

No, it should be: "Mein Bruder ist vier (Jahre alt). Er hat am vierten Mai Geburtstag."

[haughty sedge]

Vierten = 4th, right... Danke

[noble aspen]

yes

no problem

[summer valley]

Alle mag ihn / Alle haben ihn gern

I wrote the first one and it seems wrong, why?

I'm also trying to study the difference between mag and gern first

[wraith stratus]

The first one should be alle mögen ihn

[summer valley]

Oh yeah, sure bro

I forgot that for a sec

but I still don't understand the second example

maybe it's just "it is what it is" but everything had an explanation till now

[wraith stratus]

I actually dont know the difference here. But the first one is used more frequently (at least where I'm living rn)

[summer valley]

Thank you @wraith stratus

I'll go with "alle mögen ihn" as you said

[undone verge]

jemanden gern haben sounds more like-like/overly affectionate

[fervent kernel]

Mag = used with substantives/people
Gern = used with verbs

Ich mag dich - I like you
Ich laufe gern - I like to run

[viral jolt]

hierchen Mensch du hast dies geschickt als es bei mir 5 Uhr morgens war es gibt nämlich einen durchschnittlichen Unterschied von 12 Stunden zwischen mir und den USA werden wir also nie mehr reden können

[undone verge]

nicht nie mehr in ~1.5 Wochen fliege ich zurück nach Deutschland. Dann sind wir wieder in sync

[vital iris]

Which one is used more ?
"über etw streiten" oder "um etw streiten" ?

[primal shadow]

Ich bin nicht derselben Meinung wie Jessica. Meiner Meinung nach sollen kinder Handys haben, aber die eltern sollen auch regelmäßig ihre Kinders Handys kontrollieren. Es ist erforderlich ,Handys zu haben , besonders wenn das Kind nicht zu Hause ist. In diesem Fall wollen die Eltern immer mit seinem Kind im Kontakt bleiben, um zu wissen, wie alles bei ihm läuft . Abschließend möchte ich noch erwähnen, dass Handys schlecht für die Gesundheit sind. Deshalb sollen Kinder Handys in maßen benutzen.

Can anyone correct this for me? Thank you❤️

[long whale]

Don't know, but I think "über" is more "all-purpose".

[long whale]

Spelling: nouns, all nouns must be capitalized. Please use "sollten" for suggestions as in your text. ("sollen" = they're supposed to)

[primal shadow]

Thank you❤️ any other remarks?

[long whale]

Please check how to construct German Genitiv. ihre Kinders Handys doesn't work. "die Eltern" is plural, not singular.

[teal mica]

They are different and cannot necessarily be used interchangeably. It’s not a big deal but generally, “über etwas streiten” is more like an argument because of disparities in opinion while “um etwas streiten” is usually used when someone is fighting with someone else over an (abstract) object.

[deft perch]

meine Lebenserinnerungen müssen der Nachwelt erhalten werden.
just wondering why the word is in dative

[long whale]

Punctuation marks cannot be preceded and followed by "space", i.e. x , y doesn't work. It's always x, y

[long whale]

It's the construction required by the verb: "jdm etwas erhalten" (to preserve sth for sb) ;)

[deft perch]

Tysm!

[plain umbra]

@full sentinel Don't ask about things like that please.

[summer valley]

Thank you!

Mag er dich nicht? / Mag er nicht dich?

I'm always confused with "nicht" position

[long whale]

This might help: https://learnoutlive.com/german-negation-nicht/ As to your sentences, they both work, but the default version is the 1st. The 2nd would need very specific context, i.e. "Doesn't he like you, but rather your best friend?"

[summer valley]

Thank you very much Susana

[summer valley]

Such a good article, my book is way more complicated

[pearl slate]

How come you have to say "du dir" instead of just du in this example, "Also, was wünscht du dir" Secondly, since it is what do you want how come du is not in the accusative case

[plain umbra]

Let's consider the second question first. Why do you think the "du" should be accusative?

[unique sonnet]

Du is the Subject
Dir ist the accusative object
You could also say: „Was wünschst du mir?“ or „Was wünschtst du Max?

[plain umbra]

Dir is dative.

[unique sonnet]

Oh eventough I am a native i always mix the names up

But yeah the same thing with Dativ

[long whale]

The verb is used reflexively in German when you wish for something for yourself, instead of wishing something to/for others (like "Merry Christmas", for example). Does that help?

[fervent kernel]

can anyone give me a 1-2 sentence explanation of the meaning of denn as a modal particle please?
for anki deck

[timid vector]

Wer ist er denn überhaupt?

Warst du da? -> Nein -> Wo denn?

Was machst du denn?

just emphasizes usually

Whether positive or negative

or even rhetorical

[long whale]

I think your 2nd example needs "Ja" instead of "Nein" -> So, where exactly were you [since I didn't see you there]

@timid vector

[timid vector]

could work both ways no?
Were you there?
No.
Where were you then?

[long whale]

With "Nein", it would be "So, where were you [instead]?", i.e. "Wo warst du dann?" in Standard German. ;)

[timid vector]

oh yeah I just checked dwds it says it's ugs.

so nvm on that one

[pearl slate]

I meant how come it is du dir instead of du dich. Why is it in dative?

[long whale]

It's the construction required by the verb: jdm (= jemandem = Dativ) etwas (Akk) wünschen

[plush pelican]

I don't understand the sentence from this article (https://www.derstandard.at/story/2000142178079/50-anerkannte-impfschaeden-nach-corona-impfung-in-oesterreich):

Bis heute wurden 1.619 Anträge auf Anerkennung eines Impfschadens durch die Corona-Impfung eingebracht. Verimpft wurden mehr als 20 Millionen Dosen. Damit liege die Anzahl der Anträge im Promillebereich, rechnete Katharina Reich, Generaldirektorin für die öffentliche Gesundheit, am Freitag im Ö1-"Morgenjournal" vor.

"verimpft" means that someone got vaccinated, right? Not that doses were used? Because the sentence reads like, "20 million doses were used/applied/whatever [such that people got 20 million doses]," but "verimpft" sounds to me like it should apply to a person, not to a dose.

[rugged hazel]

I think your initial interpretation is correct. only an opinion

It's to vaccinate but with focus on the vaccine, the object of the verb is the medication that's being administered, in contrast to impfen where it is the one receiving. You impfen someone with a vaccine, but you verimpfen a vaccine. It AFAIK doesn't have a receiver. So it really can't be about someone being vaccinated, the focus of the sentence is on the vaccine or the administration of it, or a vague receiver as an adverbial like "in Deutschland" implying "Germans" received it.. So I go with as you say the usage of doses in order to vaccinate, resulting in someone getting vaccinated. How can people get vaccinated without doses used?
Ok technically "receiver" is used wrong but you got what I meant

[plush pelican]

Okay, so it's like saying "20 million doses were administered"

Thanks for the explanation 😄

[rugged hazel]

I'm unsure

[plain umbra]

More than, but yeah.

[naive coyote]

Yes, you can picture it when it says "x people were vaccinated" you focus on the people while, with the administered narrative, there is a good chance, some people had more than one dose of vaccine, therefore putting the focus on the number of vaccines being used.

In this context it's relevant because maybe somebody had a reaction when receiving the second dose but not the first one. If you had gone with the number of people receiving the vaccine, the percentage therefore would've been a lot higher

[steel patrol]

What's the difference between "sich regen" and "sich bewegen"?

[nova sparrow]

have you checked:
https://www.dwds.de/wb/regen ?
Any questions after?

[steel patrol]

I understand that it means "to move", but I was wondering how the two words are different? The best thing I can come up with is that "regen" is more like "to motion" (like with your hand or sth) and "bewegen" is about moving more, uhh, wholy? Like to be moving from one place to another. But I have no idea if that would be right.

[nova sparrow]

Okay, basicly it's the same with sich regen maybe a tendency to small movements (was regt sich da?-You have to look closely)
does this help? 🤔

[steel patrol]

I think so - are you basically confirming my theory?

[nova sparrow]

not exactly: Imagine you sit in your car and look outside and you realize a small movement outside: some ants carrying a leaf e.g.
then you would describe it like
etwas regte sich draußen
if it had been a cat carrying a mouse, I would use
etwas bewegte sich draußen

[steel patrol]

Ok, I'll try to find some more example sentences, but I think I more or less get it now. Thank you.

[boreal onyx]

can you use 'schmal' to describe people? like does 'ihr Körper ist schmal' make sense
and is vereinbaren more formal? like if i said 'ich vereinbare mit dir' would people give me weird looks LOL

[long whale]

Yes, "schmal" often works for "slim". Yes, it is a bit formal, but the formality refers more to the agreement, less to spoken vs. written.

[boreal onyx]

ahh gotcha thank you

[long whale]

If you wanted to say "I agree with you", as in "I think the way you do", "vereinbaren" would never work. "vereinbaren" is about "making an agreement", as in "I'll give you my car if you give me 1000 Euros.

[boreal onyx]

ohh that kind of agreement okay gotcha

cheers

[urban musk]

Entschuldigung, aber was denkst du? Ich weiß, brauchen wir unser Spiel drei Leute und einen Anführer.

^ How is this? :)

[robust spruce]

How to say I am from Paris in German

[urban musk]

Ich komme aus Paris

[robust spruce]

Ah ok, Doulingo isn't accurate with the sentences

[delicate tiger]

it usually accepts several different versions

[charred harbor]

Well I'd argue "Ich bin aus Paris" is a bit questionable

[rugged hazel]

Not really, Duden9 lists it as just one alternative to komme aus @charred harbor

[charred harbor]

I meant questionable in the sense that it’s probably an Englishism, and lots of people honestly don’t say this

Some German people I know haven’t even heard people say ich bin aus before, let alone use it themselves

[long whale]

Interesting. In that case, it's probably a Southern thing. Because I'd bet my library it's not an Englishism (brilliant word).

[charred harbor]

I suspect regionalism probably is a factor, just wasn’t feeling confident enough to say for sure

[rocky sorrel]

I have heard it a few times. But normally I just don't hang out with people who go out xd

[long whale]

No, violet meant "Ich bin aus [city/country/region]", e.g. Ich bin aus Bayern. ;)

[rocky sorrel]

Ohhh xd. Ye, I use and hear that quite often. "Ich bin aus Köln" is a quite popular phrase here.

[desert geode]

Welche Bedeutung hat das Verb ausmachen in diesem Satz?

Denn in steigendem Maße fühlen Menschen sich damit unwohl, weil ihre andere Seiten, die sie ausmachen, brach liegen bleiben.

[stark nimbus]

they are getting more uncomfortable because of their sides that makes them. (i think its right if not correct me)

[rare jetty]

"andere Seiten, die sie ausmachen" = "Different sides (of their personality) which define them"

[stark nimbus]

yes

thats what i meant xD

[rare jetty]

Ye ye

[long whale]

...because their other aspects, which constitute their personality, are not being used (literally: are lying fallow)

[stark nimbus]

yk i didnt got the right words for it

[desert geode]

Oh thanks a lot

[stark nimbus]

your welcome

[urban musk]

Still need to know if this was correct :)

I would appreciate it 🙏

[long whale]

No, it doesn't work. What were you trying to say?

[urban musk]

Excuse me, but what do you think? I think we need three people and a leader for our game

I tried messing around with word order

[long whale]

Then I'd recommend "un-messing" it. Plus, you said "I know" (Ich weiß) instead of "I think", plus, you need a preposition for "for our game", just like in English. Hint: it's very similar.

[urban musk]

Yes I meant to say I know HAHA and thank you so much!

And how I missed the preposition, I’ll never know ☠️

[long whale]

FYI, you can mess with word order all you want - except for the verb! German syntax hinges on the verb. If the verb is in the wrong position, it's simply wrong. 🤷

-> since "Ich weiß/denke" is not a subordinate clause, the first word after the comma can not be a verb.

[urban musk]

OH okay okay, I see, danke!

Ich weiss, wir brauchen für unser Spiel drei Leute und einen Anführer.

Would this be better?

[long whale]

Yes, that's fine.

[urban musk]

Okay awesome! Ty

[uneven sorrel]

what does doch mean

[icy flax]

In essence, "on the contrary"

It is a modal particle and has many usages, for more in depth explanations, you can google "doch DWDS". This website has the details listed.

[nimble viper]

provides most obscure use/translation of the word imaginable

[woven wind]

hi .. "unsere Freundschaft lebt auch dadurch, dass wir in vielen Dingen den gleichen Geschmack haben" ---> do we have sth like "durch etw leben"?/what does it mean ".. lebt dadurch .."?

[deft perch]

I don't think durch is fixed to leben, it's there just to show a method how is your friendship still lives/didn't end

• Ich gebe ihm dadurch Bescheid, dass ich ihm einen Brief schicke

[gritty kite]

https://youtu.be/yG1hGjPACC4
Hallo Leute
Kann jemand mir bitte helfen, was sagt das Mädchen um 1:07 in dieser Video

Ich kann nicht verstehen :/

[thorn pelican]

mist ding
i think
so crap thing

[gritty kite]

Ok Dankeschön

[dusty pendant]

Ist "denk ich so" richtig? Es klingt gut, aber ich weiß, dass Verben... always go in the 2nd position

Can't figure out how to finish that sentence there but the question is still a question I wanna ask here :D (also how do I finish that sentence)

[long whale]

For "I think so"?

[dusty pendant]

yeah

[long whale]

Then the answer is no. German "so" doesn't always correspond to English "so", and in this case, it doesn't. You'd say "Ich denke/glaube schon" which may be shortened in colloquial/informal German to "Denk[e]/Glaub[e] schon"

[woven wind]

Das Wort "mein Verlobter" oder "meine Verlobte" kennt man bei uns zwar, es klingt aber sehr altmodisch.
We have this "zwar .. aber" formulation here but why is it used like this? "Zwar" stays at the end of the sentence and "aber" is not located in the beginning .. kinda confusing ..

[long whale]

The order is always "zwar - aber" (think of it as: even though - [however/but still]). "zwar" doesn't have to be at the end of the clause, though. "Zwar kennt man bei uns... aber..." would work just as well. Does that answer your question?

[narrow pier]

hello

Gegenstand translates to ( object ) here but I want to fully understand what is meant by that. so instead of saying

I am the reason of why I procrastinate and why I am broke
meaning I am the center of that

object means that in english of what I Just said?? so "sie war der Gegenstand seiner ständigen Sorge, der Anbetung, seines Sinnens und Trachtens"

so Gegenstand translates to object which is the person ?

[long whale]

Yes. The sentence would work just as well if you replaced "der Gegenstand" with "das Objekt".

[dusty pendant]

I just wanted to ask a few things additionally;
is that a fixed phrase? How does "schon" actually work here?
and, slightly unrelatedly how would i finish this sentence from before:
Ist "denk ich so" richtig? Es klingt gut, aber ich weiß, dass Verben... always go in the 2nd position?

[narrow pier]

thank you, but what does the object here mean, does it mean the center or core of the actions ?

[long whale]

The object his actions/thoughts were aimed at, yes.

[narrow pier]

The object = the person?

[long whale]

"schon" is a modal particle here. I'd recommend not bothering overmuch about it at this point. A fixed expression... well, just as much (or as little) as "I think so" is a fixed phrase, I'd say. ... dass das [konjugierte] Verb immer an 2. Stelle steht.

[long whale]

In this case. If you're hoping to drive a Porsche, are saving as much as you can to buy one, are dreaming of it, then this car would be der Gegenstand/das Objekt of your dreams/hopes/thoughts. 🤷

[narrow pier]

okay I do understand now, the object of your thoughts

thank you so much

[woven wind]

absolutely .. thankss

[versed wasp]

I need IN-DEPTH explanation to the differences and similarities between
MINDESTENS - ZUMINDEST - IMMERHIN - WENIGSTENS
When should I and when shouldn't I use each one of them!?

[potent copper]

Welche Artikel nutzt man für compound subjects? Die?

[gusty silo]

wie meinen? hast du Beispiele?

[potent copper]

"Darf ich ___ Brot und Joghurt essen?"

[gusty silo]

aha verstehe

schwierig, man könnte in diesem Fall einfach auf Artikel verzichten, oder beidesmal den jeweiligen Artikel verwenden
sprich, ich würde sagen die Möglichkeiten sind:
A) Darf ich Brot und Joghurt essen?
und
B) Darf ich das Brot und den Joghurt essen?

wobei ersteres halt eher nach einer generellen Frage klingt, ob man überhaupt Brot und Joghurt essen darf, statt ein spezielles Brot und einen speziellen Joghurt
(was halt je nach Situation aber trotzdem geht, oft laufen beide Fragen ja auf das selbe hinaus)

[potent copper]

Vielen Dank für die Antwort! Ich darf beide das Brot und den Joghurt essen!

[fervent kernel]

Kann ich auch sagen hier "Hätte sie doch nur keinen Unfall" oder ist es falsch?

[opal narwhal]

Da es hier in der Vergangenheit ist, brauchst du ein Partizip, also: "Hätte sie doch nur keinen Unfall gehabt!"

[uneven sorrel]

then what's a better translation?

[green grove]

#questions answered you there

[uneven sorrel]

when wher

[green grove]

I answered his question in #questions

[uneven sorrel]

yes, where in questions

and when

because just a channel link isn't enough to find a specific message

[green grove]

I can tag it

[austere hinge]

anyone know where i can get the pdf ver for free?

[austere hinge]

did smth get deleted

could've sworn i was tagged in smth

[plain umbra]

Sorry but it's not allowed for people to encourage piracy here.

[austere hinge]

oh my bad didnt know

[plain umbra]

Yes I deleted a message encouraging piracy.

[austere hinge]

very sorry

[plain umbra]

All good. It's just a requirement of Discord.

[austere hinge]

goethe library here wouldnt lend it and not available online

library so far away from home too

man

[austere hinge]

ic thanks for letting me know, wont happen again

[plain umbra]

No worries. Good luck with acquiring a copy.

[long whale]

Please don't post the same question in more than one channel. - My guess is, even if something like this existed, it wouldn't be as helpful as you might think. For example, there is usually no 1:1 translation for prepositions. Plus, things which look like prepositions may actually be part of a verb. You'd end up reading a sentence like "Der Zug kommt an" as "The train comes on", while it actually means "The train is arriving" (ankommen = to arrive). ;)

[near folio]

@fervent kernelNot that I know of, but if you are using Firefox, you could add search engines to the search bar and press ctrl + k and then tab to select one, for example I have leo.org as my first option:

Are you fingers particularly sensitive? It's not as simple as moving a mouse, sure, but it would be a few keystrokes.

Alternatively, you could try this. Seems to only involve clicking. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/dictcc-translation/

[tardy lintel]

Am I using the DW website wrong? It jumped into greetings right away and didn't explain them first, I only learned them from other websites, is it supposed to be more of a placement test?

[flint nimbus]

how flexible is the position of the word nicht in german? For example in the sentence "Wir können ihn nicht finden" that i found in a sample, i would've expected "Wir können ihn finden nicht", or maybe even "Wir nicht können ihn finden"

similar word order question. In the dialogue

• Wie findest du den Hut?
• Den Hut finde ich schön.

is the word order of putting Den Hut in front simply because it fits the form of answering that particular question, and it could've just as easily been "Ich finde den Hut schön"? The latter would seem more natural in to me, in general.

[tardy lintel]

I think both make sense because the verb is right after the subject, and in the sentence "Den Hut finde ich schön", the verb is still second. So both sentences would make sense and you can switch around the words as long as the verb is always second. But I'd agree with you that "Ich finde den Hut schön." Sounds more correct. That's just my very beginner knowledge though someone should correct me!

[spiral vapor]

Could you specify "DW website"? Do you mean Nicos Weg course?

[long whale]

Not very flexible: https://learnoutlive.com/german-negation-nicht/ In the example you gave, there is only one correct option. Your "alternative" versions won't work.

[tardy lintel]

Yes that's right! Sorry, I didn't know there were multiple courses.

[spiral vapor]

German word order is generally pretty fixed and leave little to no space for "creativity". In this case both " Den Hut finde ich schön." and "Ich finde den Hut schön" are correct, with the latter being a more "popular" option. The first one emphasises on the fact that it's the hut you're talking about.

[spiral vapor]

There is quite a lot of resources there! Right on the first page (1/12) you have the "script" option.

If you uncover it, all of the dialogue shows

New vocabulary is highlighted and when you click on it - the translation shows!

[flint nimbus]

vielen dank, @spiral vapor und @long whale 😍

[undone verge]

many would argue precisely the opposite. Compared to english, there is much more flexibility in german word order 😄

[spiral vapor]

well, that would depend which language we'd compare it too then
compared to Polish - not flexible at all

[undone verge]

channel irrelevant but I wonder if poetry is more numerous and/or mainstream in a language with very-very-flexible word order...at least writing song lyrics must be easier

[long whale]

Not sure I know enough about enough languages to be able to tell, but I shouldn't think it matters much. 🤔

Isn't poetic license a pretty general thing?

[timid vector]

languages make different types of poetry to fit their structure

Chinese traditional poetry is structured quite differently

[long whale]

Yeah, that, too.

[woven wind]

here in this sentence, is the green highlighted part object? or subject ? .. if its object then where is subject?

[deft perch]

It's subject, no object.. [after that follows a table of contents with the most important aspects of my presentation]

[tardy carbon]

welche Verbform ist in einem formellen Text hier angebracht?

Eine Aufgabe sollte prüfen, ob den Schülerinnen und Schülern das Prinzip der Brechung klar ist/war/sei/wäre.
hab dafür irgendwie alle Intuition verloren

[long whale]

I'd use "war" ("ist" doesn't sound wrong, but would be informal, imo. And, also imo, K1 or 2 is not needed here).

[tardy carbon]

hm ja ich glaub die Konjunktiva passen wirklich nicht (k2 sowieso nicht aber ich glaub auch 1 ist falsch, ist ja kein Zitat). aber meine Intuition war eher bei ist als war

s ist ja so n allgemeiner Zustand mit dem Wissen, nicht etwas, was klar in der Vergangenheit ist, oder?

[long whale]

Yes, I know what you mean. On the other hand, you could say it's talking about that point in the past when this exam took place. It just feels as if "war" fits in better with Präteritum "sollten". 🤷

[olive sorrel]

Jemanden kennt deutsche metal bands als Drowning pool, slipknot, system of down, etc?

[long whale]

-> #1025098289521119293 I think

[tardy lintel]

What is the verb for "want to"

Like I want to go swimming.

[thorn pelican]

wollen

[tardy lintel]

Thank you! Is this right then? "Ich will baue ein Haus in das Sims."

[delicate tiger]

"Ich will ein Haus in Die Sims bauen"

[tardy lintel]

But both are right correct? It's easier for me to put the words in the same order as English

[timid vector]

No, and german is a different language than English

[tardy lintel]

I thought that German and English had the same word order and you could put german words in the same place as English's order?

[timid vector]

nope

They're similar but not the same

[delicate tiger]

For main clauses it's V2 (conjugated verb at second position), subject at 1st or 3rd position, infinitive verb at the end

[tardy lintel]

So why does "bauen" go to the end of the sentence? And why does the ending change from -e to -en?

[long whale]

If you use a modal verb, it requires infinitve for the 2nd verb (same as in English: He can builds a house)

And that infinitive goes to the end.

[timid vector]

||he can||

[tardy lintel]

I'm confused now, I thought forming sentences was easier than that

Is there a good resource I can find for that specifically? I check sentences with deepl and it always says the English order is correct so now I'm questioning the sentences I've written

[long whale]

To see whether a German sentence is correct, you have to put the English version of that sentence through deepl. Did you do that? Because deepl is excellent at making (English) sense of German gibberish. ;)

[tardy lintel]

Here's what it translates to "Ich möchte ein Haus in den Sims bauen." from English > German

So would I just change the verb möchte > will and den > das?

[long whale]

Here, you could use either "will" or "möchte". In general, if you want something for yourself, use "will". "möchte" is more like "would like" and it's used when you want something from other people. As to "Sims", I suppose deepl "thought" it was the name of a mountain range or something. :D Hilarious already gave you a correct version: #questions-2 message

@tardy lintel

[tardy lintel]

Thanks! That makes sense. So the correct version would be Hilarious' sentence, or das instead of den?

Is this a good resource for learning how to create sentences with multiple verbs? https://blog.lingoda.com/en/how-to-form-basic-german-sentences/

I'm still super confused on that part of grammar, and forming sentences in general

[long whale]

Since I don't know anything about this/these "Sims", I'm afraid I can't tell you -> go with Hilarious' version.

[long whale]

What about those courses at dw.com? Didn't like them? A course will usually tell you how to form sentences, step by step, you know? (The general problem with German is: most of the most bothersome bits of grammar come right at the start -> it takes a lot longer to string 3 words together correctly in German than it does in many other languages.)

Okay, so in "Sims" would probably work just as well. 🤷

[timid vector]

the name of the game in english is "The Sims" so the article is probably more commonly used

whereas Minecraft is just Minecraft

[long whale]

🤷

[timid vector]

dict.cc says it's feminine so who knows

[tardy lintel]

I'll keep trying with dw.com but it didn't feel satisfying for my learning stlye. But I'll totally give it another try. When I was learning German in school, verbs and forming sentences was the trickiest part for me

[brave harbor]

Hardcore Sims gamer here (3600 hours in Sims 3), its used without article

[tardy lintel]

Oh cool! 🤭 Nice to see another Sim lover. So what do you mean by "without article"?

[delicate tiger]

Das Spiel heißt auf deutsch "Die Sims"

[brave harbor]

Yeah, if you were to quote it you'd add the article

But I never heard anyone, and I would never say "ich baue jetzt ein Haus in 'die Sims'"

It's always just "ich baue jetzt ein Haus in Sims"

[tardy lintel]

So if there is just one verb in a sentence, it could be the same word order as English? But if there's an infinitive verb, it has to go last? (really trying to learn before I continue learning the wrong thing! 🤦‍♀️ )

[long whale]

Yes. The difference is just that English is SVO (subject, verb, object), while German, as pointed out by Hilarious, is V2, i.e. pretty much anything could be in Pos. 1, but the conjugated verb has to be in Pos. 2 (in a main clause, i.e. a "normal" sentence).

Morgen Abend fahre ich nach Berlin is just as correct as Ich fahre morgen Abend nach Berlin, and depending on context, even Nach Berlin fahre ich morgen Abend works.

[tardy lintel]

so 'fahre' since it's the verb, has to always be in pos. 2, but if there was also an infinitive verb in the sentence, that would be last?

[long whale]

Yup. You try with "möchte - fahren", how about that?

[tardy lintel]

'Ich fahre nach Berlin morgen Abend möchten'? That doesn't seem right but I'm not sure how to place 'morgen Abend' and if möchten should be möchte instead? 🫠

[long whale]

Ich möchte morgen Abend nach Berlin fahren ;)

(Time, if mentioned, comes early in the sentence, location/place comes afterwards)

[tardy lintel]

Ohh okay so I switched möchten to the end of the sentence instead of fahren. How would I know that fahren should be the last verb instead of möchten? And also, that's super good to know that time comes before location ✍️

[long whale]

He wants to go to Berlin. He goes to want to Berlin

[lament forge]

D say that the infinitive form of the verb tends to be towards the end of the sentence if you have an auxiliary verb before

[long whale]

In that respect, you're in luck. It works just the same way as in English. ;)

[tardy lintel]

Ohh okay, so "fahren" is to drive right? And why wouldn't that be conjugated?

[long whale]

For the same reason He wants to goes/drives doesn't work.

Modal verbs require an infinitve, in German and in English.

[tardy lintel]

Thank you for helping! I'm still a little confused on that part of grammar, but hopefully dw.com will help me understand. I'm only on day 4 of learning so I have a looong way to go 🫠

[tropic heath]

Uh, quite a noob question, but when do you use mir and when do you use mich? Considering I've only begun learning German a few days ago, when to use what word kinda baffles me at times. ^^;

[wise pendant]

It's not a noob question at all!
The difference between mir and mich is the grammatical case. One is Dative and the other is Accusative.
English just has "me" because it does not differentiate since it merged both cases in the past.
Sometimes this difference is instead shown by adding a preposition like "for":
Er kauft mich <- He buys me
Er kauft mir ein Haus <- He buys a house for me

And sometimes no preposition is used as in German.
Kannst du mir einen Gefallen tun <- Can you do me a favor

mich (Accusative) is often used for the direct object for verbs that require an object.
You hit me -> Du schlägst mich -> "Du schlägst" on its own would not work, thus "mich" is needed
The dog bites me -> Der Hund beißt mich
mir (Dative) on the other hand is used as additional information
Du hilfst mir -> You help me (The help is for me) -> "Du hilfst" on its own would work too, thus "mir" is just additional information
Du schreibst mir ein Buch -> You write a book for me

This is just a general tendency. Which verb or preposition goes for each case is sometimes hard to guess, and thus needs to be learned.
I hope this helps!

[tropic heath]

Ah, I feared that it would be a case thing, heh. Oh well, I thank you for the clarification! It definitely helped out! :D

[wise pendant]

Btw in German this merge did happen in "uns" (= us)
"Er hilft uns" using the same word as "Er schlägt uns"

[tropic heath]

Noted! Vielen Dank!

[tardy lintel]

Is this correct?

Ich will ein schwarz Pferd machen.
I want to make a black horse.

(Make a black horse meaning in the Sims game, even though it sounds weird 🫠 )

[long whale]

schwarz/black, being an adjective, needs the proper ending: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f1/a8/5e/f1a85ee01c1235d7f3999e62b24ff30b.png

-> you look at Singular -> Neutrum (das Pferd) -> Akkusativ (because "wollen" requires a direct object, i.e. Akkusativ)

[tardy lintel]

So 'schwarzes Pferd'?

[long whale]

Correct. 💐

[tardy lintel]

Awesome thanks! I'll save that chart

[patent urchin]

Hey guys,

Hast du nicht aufgehört zu spielen,

Hast du nicht aufgehört um zu spielen

Hast du nicht angehalten, um zu spielen

why is the second sentence false?

[delicate tiger]

Hast du nicht aufgehört (mit einer anderen Tätigkeit) um zu spielen

[patent urchin]

so should I say Hast du nicht aufgehört um Tennis zu spielen?

Hast du nicht aufgehört um zu spielen
and this is wrong?

[delicate tiger]

"Hast du nicht aufgehört dein Zimmer aufzuräumen um zu spielen."

[patent urchin]

ah I see now

thank you

[bold echo]

Wie würde ein Deutscher reagieren wenn man das Wort „dünken“ nutzt?

[long whale]

I sometimes use it, but I guess there might be quite a few native speakers who wouldn't know what it means.

[lethal shale]

Hat jemand eine Idee?

[bold echo]

Interessant. Danke für die Antwort!

[delicate tiger]

"Abschluss"?

[lethal shale]

hab es schon versucht, leider funktioniert nicht

Oo, ich hab's! Es war einfach "Bildungsabschluss" haha

[woven wind]

"Noten einpacken" --> context: music --> is it a natural way saying to bring your notes to another city, do we einpacken notes?

and --> "Informationsmaterial" : what does it mean practically?

[fervent kernel]

additional documents/information

[woven wind]

"Dann passt die Conga vielleicht da drüben noch rein" --> wouldn't it be better to say: da drin, cause as far as i know we use in + reinpassen, right?

"Rechnung überweisen" --> we have Geld überweisen but what is meant by "Rechnung überweisen"

[woven wind]

when it comes to "manage", in which context do we use bewirtschaften? like could we possibly use it in a Betrieb/Firma ? for example ..

[woven wind]

"Pack doch den kleinen Koffer oben links hin" ---> there was no definition for hinpacken on dictionaries.

[long whale]

They were just being lazy, they meant "den Rechnungsbetrag überweisen" = to transfer the amount mentioned on the bill.

[long whale]

No, it's for farms/arable land, inns, and also used in a very specific economic context (the state regulating resources).

[long whale]

No, that would not be possible. d[a]rin is about where things are, it's stative. Here, you have motion (Where to?) -> you need "hin" -> hinein, short form: rein. "in [den Kofferraum]" isn't necessary, since it's clear from context.

And this is also the answer to your question about "packen" + hin (please note "etwas (Akk) irgendwohin packen" is regional).

[narrow pier]

this is a very great explanation I have never seen ( the help is FOR me ) since an adjective is needed, the verb in German ( helfen ) is dativ. Is this information for most or all dativ verbs true??

[long whale]

You can often kind of make it work, as in "something looks pleasant/pleasing to me" for "etwas gefällt mir". But as you can see, it often sounds rather unidiomatic in English. ;)

[flint nimbus]

in a lot of audio recordings i hear, people sound a lot like they're doing the spanish-style r, rather than the more guttural french-style r that people keep saying is the true german r. What gives?

[long whale]

🤔 Seems strange. Have you got a link?

[narrow pier]

but a question about your explanation please. you stated ( Du hilfst ) words but ( Du schlägst ) would not work. How so?? is this for all akkusativ vs Dativ??

and how does du hilfst have a meaning --> you help ( this does not make sense to me could you elaborate )

[flint nimbus]

oops! i surely should've thought of that before asking. Let me see if i can find some

[flint nimbus]

https://youtu.be/RuGmc662HDg?list=PLF9mJC4RrjIhS4MMm0x72-qWEn1LRvPuW&t=60 maybe this will do! I feel like the r she uses here sounds like it's done in the front of the mouth rather than at the back, in Begrüßungen

[wise pendant]

helfen can be used without an object. More idiomatic would be something like "Ich helfe gerne".
schlagen on the other hand can not be used without an object in any case. I can't think of one right now for example.

[long whale]

You've happened across a woman from Franconia, where they do indeed pronounce the R the way the Spanish do. :D

[flint nimbus]

oh.. well

well i suppose it isn't too bad, though atm it is kind of the primary way i practice pronounciation

i found this lecture series to be quite good, in that there's a natural progression with lots of sentences, but also the chance to jump around to what you think is interesting without everything being destroyed

there seems to be a lot of variation in pronouncation in general

[narrow pier]

I think she is not a native German. Correct me if I am wrong but the ones who use that r which you said is used also in Spanish, they can not pronounce the hard R, hence using the easier option and not obsessing over mastering a sound, I think the Learn German channel teacher is indian. FYI the hard R is also used in my language and in Arabic, but it is hard to say

[narrow pier]

how did you know her country of origin I am truly amazed. You do actually have superpowers as someone has stated

ah it was @autumn marsh

[narrow pier]

okay thank you so much for the elaboration, is this something in like Akkusativ verbs vs Dativ verbs ?

[long whale]

Franconia is a region within Bavaria. ;)

[flint nimbus]

i'm very open to other resources as well. I just didn't want to get stuck deciding on resources for too long, and found one that seems quite good, though i have some problems with it. It is a bit too happy for my taste to use sample sentences with grammar we haven't learned yet in the ordered sequence of lectures

that's actually a nice thing about duolingo, it doesn't really do that very much, but i couldn't stand it for other reasons

[long whale]

Have you tried one of the courses at dw.com - ?

[flint nimbus]

no, i haven't heard of dw.com before. Which one do you recommend?

[long whale]

I think they have several, the one I hear about most is called Nicos Weg (it's not just a movie, it a whole course with lessons). There's a faq for it in #botchannel - or just go directly to dw.com ;)

[narrow pier]

ohhhhh, I did not search for it, sorry. literally thought it was a country

[narrow pier]

can I ask, if the courses on mobile through the DW app or on laptop through PC change. because I find things in the app which I do not think is on their website

[narrow pier]

I did not know they have several courses, are they all free?

[long whale]

Seems strange. But I don't know. 🤷

[narrow pier]

I have used DW but never knew that

[long whale]

Yes, it's a state-funded institution.

[wise pendant]

I do think so, but it's just what my intuition tells me. So don't take it for granted

[narrow pier]

do Germans watch or use DW ? or its not very popular? and btw if you watch TV or you watch content on youtube, what are the favorite TV channel of German I mean like a channel like ZDF

[narrow pier]

👍

[wise pendant]

Arte is very popular

[flint nimbus]

thanks looks good! Just for future reference just dw.com leads to like a news site, which links to the german learning site in a menu https://learngerman.dw.com/

[long whale]

I don't think so. 🤔

[narrow pier]

will check it out

danke

[flint nimbus]

while i'm here asking questions anyway, what's a good german online news source?

[long whale]

Again - dw. ;) They have slowly spoken news, langsam gesprochene Nachrichten which is quite good for learners, I hear.

[flint nimbus]

i see, there's a lot more in dw than what is immediately obvious lol

[brave harbor]

Deutsche Welle is an international thing, accessible all around the world. id assume germans abroad would use it (they have radio broadcast stations all over the world), or at least have used it in the past if they had no other access to german news. but i dont think theres more than a handful of germans who actually use the dw website actively

[narrow pier]

Oh ich verstehe

[brave harbor]

and about tv channels: most of them have their own 'Mediathek', like (often subscription based) an own platform to watch previous shows again. the only actual tv content that is being uploaded to youtube i know of is trash-reality-tv, a guilty pleasure of many germans (including me lol), fake and very poorly acted police or hospital stories... can link some if you want lol
ARD and ZDF, ARTE and some others are part of the governmental public tv, thats why they might publish more. this gov. public tv also started to offer youtube channels, as many people complained having to pay like 20 euro monthly for public tv, but no one watches tv anymore. Those YT channels have documentaries, vlogs, news etc... heres a list of all of them:
https://www.funk.net/channel/

[narrow pier]

Oh there a lot of them, did not know

[woven wind]

"+gute Idee leider ist es in Wirklichkeit nicht so einfach, nehmt euch viel Zeit für die Planung.
-ich habe so meine Zweifel, ob das funktioniert. wer kümmert sich um die Wäsche oder den Einkauf?"
What is the role of so here? What meaning does it add to the txt?

[long whale]

I.6.b. https://www.dwds.de/wb/so

i.e. it makes things less definite than saying "Ich habe meine Zweifel".

Perhaps a bit like saying "I somehow doubt it" instead of just "I doubt it"

[woven wind]

Very well explained
Now i get it

Dankee

Ihr kommt bei der Hütte an und setzt euch auf die Terrasse.

Bei + ankommen ??
Do we use kommen bei der hütte

Or

[long whale]

It was ankommen...

[woven wind]

Ach right

So do we use ankommen + bei ?

"nach ihrem sechsjährigen Kunststudium im Iran hat die Preisträgerin von 1992 bis 1994 auch in Offenbach an der Hochschule für Gestaltung studiert"

Shouldn't we simply say the last part without "für" .. never seen studieren + für ..

[long whale]

Works with places (like a shop, but not cities/countries, and not with airports and stations) and people, yes.

[woven wind]

Aha now i see ...

[long whale]

"[die] Hochschule für Gestaltung" = name of an art school, sort of like "university for creation"

-> nothing to do with the verb

[woven wind]

AHHH
Okkk

Clearr

Thanks

Is this good?

Geht es
Here what could it mean ??

[long whale]

Looks fine to me.

[dusty pendant]

ist "es ist eine sprache" richtig?
I know that you need to match pronouns with the gender of the noun (so like, der tisch => er... etwas etwas), so is it "sie ist eine sprache" here or does it depend on what that es is meant to be?
I'm assuming it depends on what it's meant to be, so in the case of, jiddisch, for example, "es ist..." is correct?

[long whale]

10. https://www.dwds.de/wb/gehen#d-1-7

[long whale]

Yes, it's correct. When defining/introducing/presenting/explaining something/someone, we use "es" or "das". ;)

[woven wind]

Nämlich here means "because", right?
And what about dabei? Is it meanwhile?

[long whale]

Yes to your 1st question. "meanwhile"... hm... that's for contrasting things, right? So, no, here, "dabei" just means "while doing that" "during this", i.e. while driving

[woven wind]

Ah .. right .. i get it now ..

[dusty pendant]

how is nämlich "because" in that sentence?

[long whale]

Well, it's used to give the reason: they now have time to write because/since they have 2 days off.

"because" wouldn't be the best translation here, obviously, it's just the meaning.

[flint nimbus]

this german sentence:

Sie geht den Strang entlang spazieren.
is translated as:
She goes for a walk along the beach.

Is that a good translation? Feel like the german has some superfluous words for that to be the translation. Something like

She goes to the beach to walk along it.
or something like that would've been expected. Alternatively, why do we need the geht, why not just something like
Sie spaziert entlang den Strand.

[long whale]

Yes, the translation is perfectly correct. (And no, your version wouldn't work)

[flint nimbus]

does spazieren always need gehen?

[long whale]

Sie spaziert den Strand entlang would translate to something like "She's ambling along the beach"

[woven wind]

die Leute waren ganz herzlich:
Ganz herzlich sein beseutet nett oder kind sein ?

[long whale]

When it's supposed to mean "to go for a walk", yes.

[flint nimbus]

what's wrong with that?

[long whale]

Nothing. It just doesn't mean quite the same thing, does it? 🤔

[dusty pendant]

is spazierengehen a word?

[flint nimbus]

so without the gehen it's implied that it's a slow and meandering walk rather than just being a qualifier for gehen that it's a walk?

[dusty pendant]

or something along those lines

[long whale]

For some reason, it's supposed to be spelled as 2 words these days: spazieren gehen

[dusty pendant]

odd

rq, 2 more things; are stammen and kommen interchangeable? (Stammen feels more like it should mean "is derived from" though)
and, is it possible to say " stammt/kommt von Deutsch"? instead of (as google and deepl suggest) "aus dem Deutschen"?

[long whale]

More or less. "herzlich" is a bit more like "warm-hearted"

[woven wind]

Stiftsbibliothek
Is it a name or is it a bibliothek related to monks like monastic library ?

[woven wind]

I understand

[long whale]

No. "Seine Familie stammt aus Deutschland" = His family is originally from Germany/has German roots (literally: ... stems from Germany)

[long whale]

Yes, "das Stift" is an institution connected to the church.

[dusty pendant]

I see, so that's what I thought

and what about the "von Deutsch" thing?

[long whale]

Doesn't work. deepl and google are right.

[dusty pendant]

I see; is there any specific reason to it or is it just wrong?

[long whale]

Just wrong, I'm afraid. 🤷

[dusty pendant]

I see, ty :)

I see that aus and von can both be translated as "from" in some cases; is there any way to know when to use which?

[long whale]

Unfortunately, prepositions rarely have a 1:1 translation, so, mostly they have to be learnt on a case by case basis. 🤷

[woven wind]

Lic. / Dr. / Mag.
Lic stands for Litzentitat a person who has license [degree] right?
Dr. Well we know ..
But i don't know what Mag. Stands for .. dic confused me a bit ..

[dusty pendant]

expected! thank you again, susana

[long whale]

Magister. And I'd never seen "Lic." before. 🤷

[woven wind]

Was in my textbook
🤷

[dusty pendant]

me again, sorry
What on earth is gefällt doing here?
"Wie gefällt es Ihnen hier?"

[long whale]

I'd say you don't have to worry about those, really. Only Dr./Doktor and Prof./Professor are part of a name, the others are just for addressing letters to people. ;)

[woven wind]

You are right ..

[long whale]

What is it you don't get? "How do you like it here?" is what it means.

[dusty pendant]

I get that but gefällt specifically I don't understand

[long whale]

"gefallen" is a Dativ verb. X looks/seems pleasant to me = X gefällt mir

[dusty pendant]

how do you mean "dativ" verb?

[long whale]

Most verbs require Akkusativ: Ich sehe dich (I see you), but some require Dativ, and "gefallen" is among those.

[dusty pendant]

ahh I see; it just confused me since everywhere I looked I just got the perfekt of fallen

[long whale]

No, totally different verb. It's just a coincidence their Partizip II has the same form.

[woven wind]

The first one is "still"/ how about the second "noch"?

[dusty pendant]

I get that, ty

[long whale]

Same thing. Something remains to be done, it still has to be done before something else can happen.

[woven wind]

"Zu einem See gestaut ist"
I know the general idea but not the exact image ..
What is the exact meaning

[flint nimbus]

is this correct?

Mögt ihr ein Lineal?
equals
Do ya'll want a ruler?

[long whale]

No, it means "Do y'all like a ruler?" ;)

[flint nimbus]

oh... right 🤔

can you use mögen like this?

Sie mag ihn.

[long whale]

When you build a dam across a river, you'll get a lake behind it, right? (Provided the dam is high enough, of course.) That would be "ein Stausee", since "das Wasser staut sich hinter dem Damm"

[long whale]

Form's wrong, but yes: Sie mag ihn.

[flint nimbus]

i corrected it now 🙂

oh i suppose

Mögt ihr den Kaffee?
makes more sense as a sentence then

like do ya'll like the coffee

[woven wind]

Ah'ha
I see
Clear ..

ich gebe euch mein Wort darauf
Does it work like english? To give one's word ?

[long whale]

Yes. It's not used that much, though. We'd just use "schwören", or, less dramatically, if you want to assure someone you're going to do something: Ich verspreche es dir.

[woven wind]

Right .. warum so komplitziert ..
Verstehe

Is there any difference btwen quer durch/quer über ?
If so then shouldn't we here use rather quer über ?

[long whale]

Correct. *Nordsee - Yes, there is a difference. "quer über ein Feld laufen" (to run across a field) is fine, "durch" would also work, especially if something like corn is growing on the field. However, quer über den Wald laufen would only work if you were a particularly nimble squirrel, or a bird. You'd have to say "quer durch den Wald laufen" (through the forest, not over it)

@woven wind

[terse crow]

quer über die Nordsee fahren sounds a lot better than quer durch die Nordsee fahren imo

[long whale]

I think "durch" implies having high... things around you. That's why only "durch" works with trees or buildings. With ships and the sea, I think both work, because high waves would also account for "durch".

With a person walking through any body of water, only "durch" would work (water rising/splashing all around them) (and only 1 person in history supposedly managed to walk on water, über's Wasser) ;)

[steel patrol]

If I wanted to say "I rave about this film any chance I get!", would "ich schwärme von diesem Film, wann immer ich die Gelegenheit dazu habe" be a correct (and idiomatic) translation? That's what DeepL has suggested, anyway. I mean, I already knew the expression "von etwas schwärmen", so didn't struggle with that, but the wording of the subordinate clause seems kind of strange to me, which is why I'd like to check if someone could confirm this for me please.

[woven wind]

Such a clear explanation
Mercii
Now i have better understanding of these two ..

[woven wind]

Right that was Moses ..

[long whale]

It's definitely correct. Idiomatic... well, I wouldn't blink if I read that sentence in a novel, if that's what you mean. I don't think I'd actually say it, though.

[steel patrol]

I see... Somehow it seemed pretty strange to me. If I were to say/write this spontaneously in a conversation, I would have probably at least swapped out "wann" for "wenn" (since it's not about stating a specific time/date, so I really can't figure out why it's one and not the other), or said "wann/wenn auch immer", or perhaps used a different construction entirely, such as "bei jeder Gelegenheit"... But that's fine, this works, thanks for confirming.

[long whale]

"wann immer" is kind of fixed, and you definitely couldn't swap "wenn" for "wann" there. "bei jeder Gelegenheit" is fine, of course. If I wanted to communicate this in a casual conversation, I'd probably say something like "Ich fand den Film so umwerfend/großartig, dass ich einfach jedem davon erzählen muss" ;)

[steel patrol]

Interesting, that's a few new things for me there then. And I'll be sure to note down your version of the sentence as well, since it definitely sounds a fair bit more natural! Thank you ✨

[flint nimbus]

Gegen einen Baum rennen
Two questions:
Does this mean literally run, with the feet, or also to run with a car?
How do i translate this into a more active sentence?
Er rennt gegen einen Baum
or
Gegen einen Baum er rennt?

[long whale]

Without further context, yes, literally, on your feet. In spoken German and with context, I guess it might mean with a car (although I wouldn't phrase it like that, myself).

It is an active sentence, I'm not sure what you mean? Also, in German, the [conjugated part of the] verb must be in 2nd position -> your version would not work. You could say "Gegen einen Baum rennt er" ("against a tree" taking Pos. 1), and it would be correct. Sounds rather strange, though.

[flint nimbus]

"to run into a tree" is more of a sample sentence than describing anything that is actually happening. I want to turn it into a sentence that is speaking about a concrete event (like "he runs into a tree" or "he ran into a tree")

[long whale]

At least, it would need very specific context. Like... the other person asking "What did he run against?"

[long whale]

Frankly, I still don't understand. Er rennt gegen einen Baum = He runs/is running against a tree

-> "Er rennt gegen einen Baum" is exactly what you wanted to say. 🤷

[flint nimbus]

sounds good! So the first one i gave was good then

[long whale]

Yes.

[flint nimbus]

i think i see where the confusion is. What i wanted to modify was the original sentence, that is, "Gegen einen Baum rennen", and i gave two options that i thought might both be plausible! Both of the latter options were "my version"

but now it's all good! Thanks

[long whale]

Well, "gegen einen Baum rennen" is not a sentence, it's just "to run against a tree". ;)

[flint nimbus]

it is a sentence afaik, but like i said, it doesn't really talk about any concrete event, it's more of a representational sentence (from a dictionary)

[long whale]

Same as in English, if you haven't got a subject, it's likely not a sentence (there are exeptions, but this isn't one of them).

[flint nimbus]

i assume constructions like this sometimes are useful in real life situations as well, like in english "there was an attempt to run into a tree" or something

ok, anyway

[long whale]

Constructions like these are typical for dictionaries. They'll tell you which preposition to use (gegen = against) and the case: Akkusativ.

[nimble viper]

Lmao to “run against a tree” sounds absolutely hilarious to me. The prepositions do not align between the languages; we only say “to run into a tree” while you use gegen to express this. (similar to with etwas gegen die Wand fahren). I get it is hard to explain the differences though without getting rid the prepositional translation of “against”

Gegen is often a wildcard for people learning German through English, at least in cases such as the above it has been for me

[long whale]

🤔 I think it might be more of a US thing, although Merriam Webster also lists this meaning under 5a: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/against

[ruby ferry]

hallo!! quick question - Meine Lieblingstiere sind Katzen, order Mein Lieblingstier sind Katzen - are they both correct? Mein Lieblingstier sind Katzen sounds strange to me, but I have seen it written out before

[long whale]

Either Meine Lieblingstiere sind Katzen, or possibly Mein Lieblingstier ist die/eine Katze. Your second version sounds pretty strange to me, whether you've seen it or not. ;)

[ruby ferry]

danke! ☺️☺️☺️

[versed wasp]

Hallo
I habe eine kleine Frage.
Was ist der Unterschied zwischen wieso, warum und weshalb?!

[long whale]

No difference. "wieso" can sound a bit colloquial, "warum" is most common, and "weshalb" is a bit more formal.

[versed wasp]

Deshalb, deswegen, aus diesem Grund, daher, also, darum, folglich, demnach

they all look similar

[long whale]

Like therefore, that's why, for this reason, as a consequence, consequently, thus... ;)

[versed wasp]

vielen dank

[vital iris]

Hallo,
gibt es ein Unterschied zwischen besorgen und kümmern ?

[long whale]

Yes. https://de.pons.com/übersetzung/deutsch-englisch/besorgen

[vital iris]

I looked for the translation of "to take care of" and both words appeared

[long whale]

Yes, we don't usually use "besorgen" for taking care of the rabbits/kids. BTW, it's "sich um jdn/etwas kümmern" - the reflexive is important in German. ;)

[urban oxide]

Sind das deine alt_ Küche?

Is this question a typo?

if not then what is it even supposed to mean

and why is it "Sind" if Küche is feminine singular

[long whale]

Excellent question. Yes, I suppose it's a typo.

[urban oxide]

What would have been the intended word then?

[versed wasp]

Was ist der Unterschied zwischen ertragen und vertragen? 🤔

[long whale]

Hmm... Why do you think they're similar?

[long whale]

Well, it should be either Sind Ist OR Küche Küchen - in which case you'd be asking "Are those your old kitchens?", which seems kind of weird. But then, you never know with grammar exercises. 🤷

[versed wasp]

They both derived from tragen?? In the dictionary, both of them mean to endure.

[long whale]

Hmm... yes, I see, they do kind of cross over in the negative. However, "vertragen" has quite a few other meanings: https://de.pons.com/übersetzung/deutsch-englisch/vertragen, while "ertragen" only means "to quietly put up with something really hard/disagreeable/horrible"

[tardy lintel]

Is this correct?

"Was ist das Pferd's heissen?
Er heißt Blank."

[charred harbor]

Wie heißt das Pferd?* would be correct

And the er should be es, technically

[tardy lintel]

So are animals referred to as "it"?

[delicate tiger]

depends on the grammatical gender of the animal, "das Pferd", "der Hund", "die Katze"

[tardy lintel]

So because Pferde are neutral, I would say "es" instead of er oder sie?

[woven wind]

"Wie in vielen Firmen vermischen sich dabei Beruf und Privatleben. doch hier ist das auch Programm. Denn die Agentur hat sich auf alternative Werbeformen spezialisiert, das sogenannte Guerilla-Marketing." --> what does this part "doch hier ist das auch Programm" mean?/and also which meaning does dabei convey?

"Wir sitzen nicht nur unseren Job ab" --> what does it mean absitzen here?

"was sollte ein Bewerber *bei *dieser Firma mitbringen" --> do we use bei meaning "to"? (in context of firma)

[long whale]

Correct. ;)

[delicate tiger]

#questions message

[flint nimbus]

what is the difference between "Er ist ein Lehrer" and "Er bleibt ein Lehrer"?

[versed wasp]

What is the difference IN PRONUNCIATION between ihr and er??

[long whale]

Check wiktionary (or forvo) - they have pronunciation examples, wiktionary also shows the IPA. ;)

[versed wasp]

warte mal

the difference between these two in German is similar to the difference between the letters P and B in English. 😢

[versed wasp]

danke susana, du bist ein sehr hilfreicher Mensch

[woven wind]

Sorry i didn't realize your message at first ..
Btw thanks .. i get it now ..

[tardy lintel]

Okay! So what if I said “der Hund”, since the dog isn’t neutral, would I say er oder sie based on the dogs gender?

[thorn zodiac]

So I got a question, when writing a sentence and it has a verb with sich and one which doesn't where does the sich go? (Might sound weird but just want to know the grammar)
Ex: "ich werde später ein Spiel spielen und mir eine Sendung ansehen." Or would the mir go after werden? Could someone clear this up ty:
(ENG: I will play a game later and watch a show).

[flint nimbus]

Bump this.

So for example, when Nietzsche says

Gott ist todt! Gott bleibt todt! Under wir haben ihn getödtet!
What is the second sentence doing? What aspect of being dead does it emphasize that needed emphasizing?

[long whale]

Yes, "er" if you don't know its gender, "sie" (or "er") if you do know it.

[long whale]

bleiben = to stay, to remain

[flint nimbus]

so the second sentence emphasizes the ongoing nature of god's being dead?

[long whale]

The way you wrote it is perfectly correct, and no, the reflexive couldn't go anywhere else in this case.

[long whale]

God remains dead, yes.

[flint nimbus]

ok, thanks!

is the "under" just an old style "und"?

[long whale]

It's a typo. 🤷

[flint nimbus]

oh 🤦‍♂️ yes it is, by me

[woven wind]

@long whale would you pls have a look at these?

[long whale]

X ist Programm can mean something like "it's part of the concept". "dabei" - with this. Can't give you a more detailed answer, that would be in the previous sentence. "bei" - sloppy German. Was sollte jemand mitbringen, der sich bei dieser Firma bewirbt? is what they mean.

[versed wasp]

What are the differences and similarities between beide, die beiden, beides?

[plain umbra]

As a starting point, wiktionary has some usage notes: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/beide

[versed wasp]

Ich kann nicht bestimmen, inwiefern sich ihr Leben während des letzten Jahres verändert hat.

Klingt das gut?

[long whale]

Except for "bestimmen", yes, it does.

[woven wind]

"... ist es ratsam, sich beim Vorgesetzten zu erkundigen, ob man etwas nehmen darf. denn der Arbeitgeber darf theoretisch auch dann fristlos kündigen wenn etwas von geringen Wert entwendet wurde."

what would be a good translation/equivalent for auch dann ?

[long whale]

"even if"

[woven wind]

"welche der im Artikel erwähnten Fehler finden Sie nicht so schlimm?" --> shouldn't it be welchen ?

[nimble viper]

welche finden Sie nicht so schlimm? > welche der Fehler finden Sie nicht so schlimm? > welche der im Artikel erwähnten Fehler finden Sie nicht so schlimm?

[long whale]

"welchen" -> singular; "welche" -> plural ;)

[woven wind]

i understand now

können wir das so umschreiben? : welche Fehler, die im Artikel erwähnt sind, finden Sie ..

[long whale]

Yes, of course. (Although we'd usually use "werden" - and there we go again...)

[woven wind]

"Das gehört auf Ihren Anrufbeantworter" do we use gehören + auf ?

[long whale]

"It belongs on your answering machine", "It ought to be on your answering machine" - ? If that's what you wanted to say, then yes. 🤷

[long whale]

Well, it depends on the meaning: "zu etwas/jdm gehören" (to be part of something/a group of people) vs. "jdm. gehören" (to be someone's possession) vs. "gehören + preposition + place" (as in your example with the answering machine) to indicate where something belongs, where it ought to be: "Bücher gehören ins Regal, Kleider gehören in den Schrank" (books ought to be on shelves, clothes ought to be in the wardrobe)

[woven wind]

very well explained

[hardy seal]

Kann jemand diese witz erklären?

Was sagt der Teig bevor er in den Ofen geht? Ich bin gerührt

[long whale]

*diesen Witz erklären - "einen Teig rühren" = to mix dough; "gerührt sein" = to be emotionally touched

[woven wind]

"in welche Richtung" --> "in which direction" doesn't make sense here in this contxt

[long whale]

"dir"? Typo, I assume...

[woven wind]

"gegenbestätigun" --> i didn't find about this word on the internet, does it possibly mean to "confirm back" : like i confirm and wait person X to confirm too ..

[woven wind]

i mean direction

[long whale]

It means "In which way/How do you want to modify your order?" As in: do you want a different colour? Do you want to order more/fewer chairs?

(And no, it's not a very common way of phrasing this. I'd say "Inwiefern möchten Sie..." instead of In welche Richtung möchten Sie...)

[long whale]

Yes, exactly.

[woven wind]

aha, i see. this is important👍

[woven wind]

mercii

[fervent kernel]

difference between ich bin frei und ich habe frei ty guys 🙂

frei haben must be work related?

[prisma vapor]

More related to have Time/free Time

[woven wind]

am Beispiel = zum Beispiel ??

[prisma vapor]

Zum Beispiel ist eine variable, um mehrere Sachen aufzuzählen. Am Beispiel beschreibt nur EINE Sache

[woven wind]

junge Männer? jungen Männer?

[undone verge]

junge Männer

it is nominative

[woven wind]

yes exactly, it was from nachrichtenleicht .. so that surprises one seeing such Fehler ..

[flint nimbus]

is this sentence correct?

Nein, das ist nicht der Bahnhof.
i've written it down from somewhere, but it seems like from what i've learned since, the nicht should go at the end of the sentence

the source i got it from is old, maybe things have changed since then

according to this https://easy-deutsch.com/position-nicht/ it looks like the sample sentence is following this principle:

„Ich kaufe nicht das Auto.“

Meaning: I am not buying that car! (But maybe another one!).
in other words, it's saying, no the thing you pointed to isn't the train station, but rather the train station is in another place, which i'll tell you!

[long whale]

Yes, the sentence is correct. No, the rules haven't changed. No, "nicht" can not be placed at the end of the sentence. ;)

[flint nimbus]

i can't find this structure of nicht in this web site https://learnoutlive.com/german-negation-nicht/, so that's why i was worried

[long whale]

I mean you're trying to say "No, this [building] is not the station", right? -> Nein, das ist nicht der Bahnhof. However, if I'd said "This station is ugly, isn't it?" (Der Bahnhof ist häßlich, nicht?), and you didn't think so, you could say "Nein, das ist der Bahnhof nicht." (No, it isn't [ugly])

Would be a bit uncommon, though.

[flint nimbus]

it's not me trying to say it, it's the learning resource, but yes, that's the context of the conversation it's taken from!

[woven wind]

What is the difference between
"Inhaltsverzeichnis" & "Inhaltspunkte"

[delicate tiger]

only the first one is used commonly, you don't need to know or use the second

[woven wind]

"zuerst sind wir bei der falschen Ausfahrt von der Autobahn abgefahren"
Do we use abfahren + bei ?? I dont get what it exactly says ..

[delicate tiger]

Wir sind abgefahren.
Wir sind [von der Autobahn] abgefahren.
Wir sind [von der Autobahn] [bei der falschen Ausfahrt] abgefahren.

[woven wind]

was gibt es für X = what kind of X's are there ??

[fervent kernel]

I am not sure what your question is..
Was ergibt X? = What is the value for X?
Wie löse ich nach X auf? = How do you solve for X?

[trail granite]

Yes, that is what it means.

[long whale]

"Was für Xe gibt es?" would work just as well (if not better), by the way. ;)

[woven wind]

what is the difference between abschicken and zuschicken

[earnest arch]

https://dict.leo.org/forum/viewGeneraldiscussion.php?idForum=4&idThread=989702&lp=ende&lang=de

[woven wind]

and is it rare to use this form for future "es wird + partizip II werden"? --> "weißt du was morgen früh besprochen wird"/"weißt du was morgen früh besprochen werden wird"

[tardy shadow]

Isn't it supposed to be dative

vor allem jungen Männern

[long whale]

Yes, it's rare.

[long whale]

No. "vor allem" works as an adverb meaning "above all/mostly". And the young men are the subject in the sentence -> Nominative

[tardy shadow]

Oh I didn't read the entire thing and I didn't know "vor allem" means that

Thinking about it, it should have been "allen" if it were with "jungen Männern" like this

[fervent kernel]

can anyone give me a 1-2 sentence explanation of the meaning of denn as a modal particle please?
for an anki deck

[long whale]

1. a. and 1. b. here: https://www.dwds.de/wb/denn#2

[woven wind]

"wer einem Bürojob nachgeht, wird bis zu seinem Renteneintritt rund 80000 Stunden im Sitzen gearbeitet haben." -->*** im Sitzen*** arbeiten --> does it mean working at desk ?

[long whale]

"im Sitzen" = while sitting, while seated

-> in this case, yes, they'd be sitting at a desk, but if you have some berries growing at a convenient height, take a chair into the garden, and sit down to harvest them: Du pflückst/erntest die Beeren im Sitzen.

Come to think of it, the same sentence also works if they're strawberries and you sit on the floor while harvesting them. ;)

[woven wind]

very detailed. now i understand. mercii.

gerade im Bürostuhl sitzen, beine hüftbreit aufstellen und die Hände auf die Oberschenkel legen ---> does beine hüftbreit aufstellen accord with the Picture ? and gerade here means upright/straight?

[long whale]

You can't see the thing about the hips (die Hüfte/n) in the picture. "hüftbreit" means putting your feet apart just as wide as your hips, i.e. the space between your feet + your feet = your hips

[woven wind]

"wie fühlt sich die Atmung im Bauch an ?" --> do we use sich anfühlen for objects and sich fühlen for person?

[long whale]

I'm not sure I understand your question. "anfühlen" doesn't really exist in a non-reflexive form (not anymore, at least).

[woven wind]

i mean, both mean the same thing: to feel (in a certain way), right? /my question is what is the difference?

[long whale]

Both what?

You only gave me one sentence.

[woven wind]

sich fühlen and sich anfühlen

[long whale]

No, they don't. Whatever gave you that idea? There is no way you could use "sich fühlen" in the above sentence.

[granite creek]

can somebody help me with my german exam

[long whale]

You use "sich fühlen" about how you feel as a person, about your state of well-being. You use "sich anfühlen" for things which give you a certain feeling. Like... if your girlfriend says to you "Du fühlst dich nicht gut an", you probably haven't shaved and are giving her a rash by kissing her. ;) @woven wind

[long whale]

faq homework

[stoic mauve]

How to ask a question

If you want something corrected, you can put it in a Google Doc and share a link with permission level »can suggest« in #writing .

Don't ask us to translate something for you outright: that takes professional time and effort and we're not here for that. You can try your luck with deepl.com.
For single words, use dict.cc or another dictionary, it'll be quicker.

If you want to know if/how a word can be used, provide some context to help us understand the situation.

Don't ask us to do your homework or exams for you! Show us your best attempt at something and try to pinpoint what exactly you don't understand.

[woven wind]

can we use hierfür and hierzu use interchangeably?

[fervent kernel]

Was ist die Übersetzung von das Wort "though" auf Englisch? z.B: in diesen Satz wie kann man übersetzen?

I liked the color though

[restive cloud]

Trotzdem habe ich diese Farbe gemocht

Dennoch/aber/trotzdem

[flint nimbus]

Is this sentence a correct, and translating to "I don't eat breakfast every day"?

Ich esse früstück nicht jeden morgen.

[charred harbor]

Frühstück

And Morgen (but it means morning, not day)

I would suggest "Ich frühstücke nicht jeden Tag" though

[woven wind]

"meiner Meinung nach geht das gar nicht. am besten alles unverpackt, so dass sich die Gerüche im ganzen Abteil ausbreiten kann. Wer im Zug essen will kann das im Bord-restaurant tun." --> this highlighted part is a bit confusing for me. this doesn't make sense. shouldn't it be like: am besten alles verpackt, so dass sich **nicht **die Gerüche im ganzen Abteil ausbreiten kann

[trail granite]

I think it's supposed to be sarcasm

[long whale]

a) it's irony b) there's an error in here: the verb is not in accordance with the subject ;)

[woven wind]

Ahh, i understand now.

👍

[woven wind]

"Bei so guten Erklärungen ist der Chef dann bestimmt nicht mehr verärgert" == "Bei so guten Erklärungen ärgert sich der Chef dann bestimmt nicht mehr" ??

[long whale]

Yes...

[woven wind]

is "telefonat machen" used and appropriate ?

[long whale]

Well... if we're being extremely lazy, we might say it. But it isn't really appropriate, no. It's "ein Telefonat führen"

[woven wind]

i see. mercii

[long whale]

DWDS also helps with this, you know...

[woven wind]

aha you mean usage?

[long whale]

In this particular case, there is only 1 example sentence, and it uses "führen". Also, "machen" is not listed under "typische Verbindungen". ;)

[woven wind]

i came across with it [machen] i think in my txtbook a few days ago, and i needed to use it now, so i just asked

[woven wind]

right

[stoic mauve]

No command or module called noch found.

[woven wind]

"Aus diesem Grund soll der Kündigungsschutz dafür sorgen, dass die Arbeitnehmer ihren Arbeitsplatz behalten, wenn es möglich ist. Sie sollen vor zu schnellen Kündigungen durch den Arbeitgeber geschützt werden." ---> **durch **? shouldn't it be von ?

[thorn pelican]

Here I believe it's stating that the employer shall provide this protection

i.e. it's the empoyers responsibility not to fire employees too quickly

[long whale]

Well... I'd say, here, both work fine.

[woven wind]

cool then

[long whale]

Ehh - no. It's the Kündigungsschutz which is providing the protection. It exists to prevent the employers from firing their employees too quickly. ;)

[thorn pelican]

shall as in has to because of the law is what i meant
so does durch here then mean 'by'?

[long whale]

Correct.

[woven wind]

"einem Arbeiter oder einem Angestellten kann in der Regel mit einer Frist von vier Wochen zur Mitte oder **zum **Ende eines Kalendermonats gekündigt werden. Während der **Probezeit **kann der Arbeitgeber den Arbeitnehmer mit einer Frist von zwei Wochen entlassen. Wenn ein Arbeitgeber einem Arbeitnehmer, der schon sehr lange für den Betrieb tätig ist, kündigen möchte, muss er längere Kündigungsfristen einhalten."

Susana shouldn't we say bis zu(r/m)? --> von .. bis

[delicate tiger]

no, it's two separate dates (15. and 31.) not a time span

[woven wind]

what is the difference between andauern and dauern?

hast du einen guten Tipp wie ich Fehler vermeiden kann und was ich machen soll, wenn mir **doch ****welche **passieren? --> could "welche" here mean around a few ? and how about doch, does it emphasize?

[long whale]

X dauert an = X hasn't stopped

X dauert [time spann]

[woven wind]

ahaaa. i see. thanks

[long whale]

It means "some/any" here. (And I'll be back later.)

[woven wind]

ok

[woven wind]

"aber was passiert wenn das der neue Chef mal hört? kann ***mir ***dann sofort gekündigt werden?" --> mir? ich??

[woven wind]

are following sentences for "the Window closes badly" ok: 1) das Fenster schließt sich schlecht 2) das Fenster schließt schlecht

[long whale]

2

Instead of 1, we'd say "Das Fenster ist schlecht zu schließen", or "Das Fenster läßt sich [nur] schlecht schließen"

[woven wind]

practical. merci

[woven wind]

Susana how about doch up here

@long whale

[long whale]

I think in English, you'd just emphazise "do", as in "... if I do make mistakes" i.e. in spite of all my efforts

[woven wind]

cool

[dense timber]

"Es gibt viele Frauen auf dieser Welt, die anerkannt werden wollen"
In this phrase, I noticed that the word "die" is acting as a conjunction of a subordinating clause instead of acting as a definite article (unless I am wrong). My question is, in what scenario does this occur in? And why does it occur? The only thing I could find was that the only pattern is that it acts as a conjunction for the word "they"

[long whale]

It's called a relative clause, ein Relativsatz: There are many women who want to be...

And "die" is a relative pronoun in this case.

[dense timber]

Ah thank you, I will look into Relatives then. Vielen Dank

[long whale]

Bitte, gern.

[woven wind]

unter X und Y versteht man Z, welche dient .. = by X and Y you get the idea (that/which) Z serves/is used to ..

would it be a good translation ?

[long whale]

Not quite, no. unter X und Y versteht man Z = X and Y mean Z, X and Y are generally understood to be Z [which serves as/is used to]

[woven wind]

clear

merci

do we use einsparen with Zeit??

i couldn't find sth on Dic ..

[long whale]

We usually use "Zeit" with "sparen".

[woven wind]

right i get it. it was on textbook, just wanted to make sure: Wir verfügen über viele technische Geräte und sparen dadurch immer mehr Zeit ein.

[long whale]

Okay... Yes, it's actually in the 1st sentence under Beispiele: https://www.dwds.de/wb/einsparen

[woven wind]

i seee.

[flint nimbus]

thanks! i missed i had received an answer, but found it now

[woven wind]

"Er befragt Therapeuten, Wissenschaftler, und Zeitmanagement-Experten nach Ursachen und Auswirkungen der chronischen Zeitnot. Auch Menschen, die aus dem Alltagstrott ausgestiegen sind, kommen zu Wort." --> who are these people coming out of daily grinds, get the chance to say a word or two? he means Rentner ?? and another question: "ist es der **Spagat **zwischen Arbeitswelt und Famile .. ?" --> does Spagat mean "balance" here??

[flint nimbus]

These

Wie ist dein Name
Wie ist Ihr Name
both correct as informal and formal respectively? i know it's a weird way of asking the question, just looking at the grammar since i think i confused myself a bit with it

[spiral vapor]

both correct as informal and formal respectively?
yes!

also, please remember to capitalise the nouns @flint nimbus

[flint nimbus]

oh right thanks

it's a bad online habit, i always do it correctly for my personal notes

[woven wind]

"in other words he wants to know why everyone has to struggle to have more time even though there are new technical devices" --> which one could be an appropriate match? -->

1)"Er möchte also wissen, Entgegen den neune technischen Geräten, warum alle kämpfen müssen, um mehr Zeit zu haben"

2. "Er möchte also wissen, warum jeder um mehr Zeit zu haben, kämpfen müssen, obwohl es nene technische Geräte geben"

3. "Er möchte also wissen, warum alle kämpfen müssen, um mehr Zeit zu haben, obwohl es nene technische Geräte geben"

[fervent kernel]

What exactly is your question?

For sentence structure, the third one would be correct. They all are grammatically wrong though.

[long whale]

https://tenor.com/view/right-on-celebrating-dance-split-gif-14047925

der Spagat

[fervent kernel]

😂 omg susana

ich sterbe vor Lachen, das ist die beste Übersetzung die ich jemals dafür gesehen habe.

[long whale]

"aussteigen" means people quitting a stressful job, in order to breed horses, or run a small farm, or a yoga retreat or something. ;)

pleased Thanks. I felt this was a case of Ein Bild sagt mehr als tausend Worte ;)

[fervent kernel]

Definitiv, absolut genial.. ich lach mich kringelig 😄

[long whale]

The 3rd is almost correct (compared to the others): "Er möchte also wissen, warum alle kämpfen müssen, um mehr Zeit zu haben, obwohl es nene mehr technische Geräte geben gibt" ("es gibt" as in "there exist/s" can not be put in plural, it's always the same)

[lost parcel]

das Bereich oder der Bereich?

[long whale]

To me, it's "der Bereich" (exclusively). I see in DWDS it's listed with both "der" and "das", but I have no idea where/when anyone uses it with "das". 🤷

Edit: on verbformen.de, "das Bereich" is said to be "selten/unüblich", i.e. rare/uncommon. Phew.

[sullen gale]

ok so — is this question correct? Erklärst du dass, bitte?

Very simple sentence, but I’m still trying to get “that” and “these” and “this” down lol

[long whale]

dass das

"dass" is exclusively used for introducing subordinate clauses, as in "Ich kann nicht glauben, dass er das getan hat" (I can't believe [that] he did that)

[sullen gale]

Ahhh I see I see
Thank you!

[versed wasp]

Leute, ich brauche Hilfe.
Kann man (Ich gehe in den Iran) und (Ich gehe nach Iran)!? Wenn ja, was ist der Unterschied dazwischen?

Is there a rule when should I use von//aus ?! and in + die or nach?? they seem very random to me.

[prisma vapor]

„Ich gehe nach Iran“ sagt man eigentlich nicht. „Ich gehe in den Iran“, sagt man, dass liegt daran, dass das Wort „Iran“ kurz ist und auf -an endet.

[versed wasp]

can I say von Asien or Aus Stuttgart ??

[versed wasp]

If the word takes a die or der, then I have to use in den Iran/ in die USA, but if it doesn't take a particle then I can say nach like nach Deutschland/ nach Ägypten/ nach Amerika, is this correct?

[prisma vapor]

Yess

[versed wasp]

ok this one is easy and I can see the pattern. but what about von and aus?!

aus Amerika/ Aus Asien and von Stuttgart. What is the rule that govern the use of each of them ?

[prisma vapor]

If you like to say I’m from Amerika it means „Ich komme AUS Amerika“ .

[versed wasp]

and what about von?

[prisma vapor]

You use von because it is a city

Like “von Berlin”

Wobei du auch beides sagen kannst

[versed wasp]

ok one last question, what is the difference between aus der Stadt and von der Stadt?

[prisma vapor]

I think it means the same

[versed wasp]

von Berlin and aus Berlin, is there any difference in Usage/function or meaning ?!

[prisma vapor]

If you have the question “woher kommst du” you can say “Ich komme aus Berlin”, if you have the question “woher bist du” you can answer “Ich bin von Berlin”. But the meaning is the same

Or “ Ich komme von Berlin”

[versed wasp]

awesome

danke

[versed wasp]

Warum keinen ist falsch?

Vogel ist männlich, oder?

Geschwister is always plural, right??

[grizzled vigil]

Yes

[grizzled vigil]

Weil es Nominativ ist

[versed wasp]

What is bewog?? I haven't seen this verb before

What's the difference between the imperfekt and the perfekt??

[woven wind]

Do we use Vorkommen(meaning deposit) + an ? I mean are they used together? Or this "an" has nothing to do with Vorkommen ??

[nova sparrow]

As you say: Vorkomman an, Vorkommen von 👍

[woven wind]

Schweigeklauseln: what does it mean?

Is this something like "Geheimhaltung"

[fervent kernel]

NDA basically. @woven wind

[nova sparrow]

Yes sth like that, you know about a topic but are not allowed to talk/communicate about it
https://www.dwds.de/?q=Schweigeklausel&from=wb

[long whale]

The verb "bewegen" exists in 2 versions, 1 you know (bewegen, bewegte, bewegt = to move). You've got the 2nd here: "jemanden zu etwas (Dat) bewegen" bewegen, bewog, bewogen = to persuade/move somebody to do something ;)

[long whale]

Please type >faq Perfekt in #botchannel ;)

[woven wind]

Eine? Ein? / sie? Sie?/ ein Urteil fällen = verurteilen?

[long whale]

Typo, should be "ein Urteil". "sie/Sie" - might refer to "die Urlauber" (sie), or might be talking to the reader directly (Sie) - no way of telling, really.

"ein Urteil fällen" is more like "to give a verdict", "to make a decision". "verurteilen" requires a direct object (jemanden [zu etwas/einer Strafe] verurteilen)

[woven wind]

I get it now. Ein Urteil fällen could be either positive or negative, right?
But i think verurteilen is always negative.

[long whale]

Yes, sort of... "ein Urteil fällen" could also refer to something like a boss giving priority to project A instead of project B or C.

[woven wind]

I see