general-2

[hot cloak]

💀

The ticket doesn’t show up in any of the govt databases either.

[rugged cypress]

idk how getting a ticket works in Djermany

[hot cloak]

Nah, it’s for the USA.

[rugged cypress]

oh 🤨

[hot cloak]

I have to go back to the USA for this shady shit.

[humble sandal]

That's an expensive speed ticket

[hot cloak]

Yeah. No kidding.

I hate my country.

Like, I would’ve paid cash for it in person if offered the chance.

[rugged cypress]

Did you forget about it before leaving?

[hot cloak]

No. I just literally could not do anything about it or contact anyone.

The county that issued it hasn’t even posted it once on their site.

And now they finally reach out by mail

Ughhhhh

[rugged cypress]

[hot cloak]

Yep. I’m going back to the USA to deal with it and I’m going to hold off plans to make shit work in Germany for a year or two.

Unless my boyfriend literally were to ask me to marry him, I’d be screwed anyways.

[humble sandal]

Didn't you just get a contract? I was just reading that

[hot cloak]

Yeah, only for them to state at last minute they need a language certificate I don’t have.

[humble sandal]

No one ever asked me for one, but I guess it reassures some

[hot cloak]

Yup. Imma work on getting to C level and get certs

I’ll make the most of howevermuch time I find myself stuck in the USA for.

And I’ll gain more experience towards an EU Blue Card

With a 2nd bachelors degree from an internationally accredited university.

Maybe I’ll go for a degree in German

Nah. I’ll just use Goethe for the German

[humble sandal]

A degree in German would look good

[hot cloak]

True, but the time would probably be better spent getting more IT skills once I CAN attend the university I’m going to

I can’t actually take classes from my university until August.

Which gives me 8 months to waste

May as well take short notice courses from Goethe and get the cert from them, knowing it’ll be recognized.

[humble sandal]

I see

[maiden slate]

tfw

you wake up

and you're not on a german battleship

[hot cloak]

F

[maiden slate]

f

can we go to frankreich instead and just buy some cheese

[hot cloak]

Yes

[maiden slate]

could invade visit them

you know where i wanna go? the lavender fields in the south of france

[hot cloak]

Sounds nice

[rustic oar]

Hello

[feral rose]

hello

oder

Hallo

[hot cloak]

Hallo

[feral rose]

Wie geht es dir?

[languid hearth]

Both is okay but hallo is Deutsch

[frosty heron]

I love ChatGPT

In German, "vorweisen" and "zeigen" both mean "to show," but they are used in slightly different ways.

"Vorweisen" is used to indicate that someone is presenting or producing something as evidence or proof. For example:

    Ich muss meinen Ausweis vorweisen, um in das Gebäude zu kommen. (I have to show my identification to get into the building.)
    Kannst du mir bitte deine Arbeitserlaubnis vorweisen? (Can you please show me your work permit?)

"Zeigen" is more general and can be used to refer to showing or displaying something to someone. For example:

    Kannst du mir bitte den Weg zum Bahnhof zeigen? (Can you please show me the way to the train station?)
    Sie zeigte ihm ihr neues Kleid. (She showed him her new dress.)

In summary, "vorweisen" is used specifically to indicate that something is being presented as evidence or proof, while "zeigen" can be used more generally to refer to showing or displaying something.

Not sure if correct though

[hot cloak]

This is the problem witu ChatGPT in general

I dont know about this case but it is often caught giving some wrong information

Well, it is still improving

[pure bronze]

@shy anchor please welcome broobhi

[crude aurora]

Can someone help me out with german poem,by sending its summary and interpretations

[errant yew]

"vorweisen" has this nuance of showing upon a request, while "zeigen" is commonly used as showing in general

[azure magnet]

Wir zeigen dir die Wohnung

[vocal wyvern]

das ist nützlich

[hot cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/grasshopper-jumping-grasshopper-little-grasshopper-cartoon-animated-gif-8390322

[hot cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/laron-lalat-serangga-bug-fly-gif-16469580

[silent osprey]

[hot cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/cockroach-roach-insect-pest-crawl-gif-10334796

[hot cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/feline-and-lizard-snuggles-cuddle-cute-gif-14303060

[merry inlet]

This is so cute

[vocal wyvern]

Le cucaracha

[hot cloak]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKAhCFEuYEw

nein

[shy elk]

@hot cloak

hi

[hot cloak]

Hi

[shy elk]

where do u live tho now??

[hot cloak]

Germany

U?

[shy elk]

latvia 😔

idk where to study uni

[hot cloak]

Latvia ? Sorry where is that ? 😅

[hot cloak]

Oh i see

[shy elk]

yea u do lolz

[hot cloak]

But why do u wanna move? Cant u study there?

[shy elk]

shittiest country

also, im studying in english

and all universities here teach in latvian

[hot cloak]

What languages do u speak?

[shy elk]

sure i understand th elanguage but i cant study

latvian english russian and french and maaaaaaaybe german like 10 words

[hot cloak]

I see

[shy elk]

also my parents arent saving 70k for nothing..

[hot cloak]

Mmm the Problem is that u Go to spain you has to learn spanish

[shy elk]

i understand it , i just need a english teaching university

[hot cloak]

I get it

[hot cloak]

What do u mean by this?

[shy elk]

they arent saving for me to go to some shit university

[keen otter]

you wont find many english teaching universities in spain

[shy elk]

i wont find many but ill find some

[hot cloak]

Yep

[shy elk]

and tbf theres always different choices

for countries

[hot cloak]

Sure thing

[shy elk]

and im shy so most ill do is go to school, go home, go on walks

[hot cloak]

Latviju

[shy elk]

ko

[hot cloak]

Only Latvian word I know lol

[shy elk]

thats not a word

its only a word in a sentence

its Latvija

[hot cloak]

o

Kind of like Polska in a way?

[shy elk]

ig

how old r u guys

[hot cloak]

And when are u finishing school?

[hot cloak]

I’d rather not say

[shy elk]

2025

[hot cloak]

Ohhh

[shy elk]

totes fair (❁´◡`❁)

[hot cloak]

You have time to think

[hot cloak]

Ok

[shy elk]

i would be in 2024 but got held back 1st grade

[hot cloak]

Why?

[shy elk]

bc i switched to a latvian school

[hot cloak]

Got it

Well i hope you get what u want

[shy elk]

idrk what i want

[hot cloak]

And try to Not overthink to much u know

[hot cloak]

I used to be Like that, pretty lost Back in the days

[shy elk]

you're talking old

do you know mbti?

[hot cloak]

Im Not that old lol

[hot cloak]

What ?

[shy elk]

mbti!

[hot cloak]

What is that?

[shy elk]

personality types

[hot cloak]

Oh

Well now i do Sales

[shy elk]

https://www.truity.com/test/type-finder-personality-test-new

[hot cloak]

Ohhh

Haha

Let me see

[shy elk]

mention me when u done

[pure bronze]

<@&305455824174710787>

[hot cloak]

🤔

[fleet summit]

Papa Noel 🎅

[hot cloak]

Noël

[lapis marsh]

Yo

How can I be kick fast

[whole rapids]

du kannst dich selber kicken:

[sudden panther]

@hot cloak hello, please don't use the server to make random inappropriate comments.

[urban stream]

Noël

[hot cloak]

No

Ël

[snow cradle]

du bist dist

[kindred iris]

[maiden slate]

@hot cloak

wya

[hot cloak]

hallo

[slate widget]

hallo

[neat cobalt]

haalo

[hot cloak]

haallo

[dim idol]

hallo

[pulsar fiber]

hallo

[kindred iris]

Moin !

[neat cobalt]

hi

hello

[kindred iris]

#general-2 is basically just a hallo chain.

[fleet vale]

thanks

[maiden slate]

hallo

[woeful matrix]

Hallo

[low drum]

Hello

[peak pawn]

True

[dense jasper]

Fenster

[hot cloak]

Ahhhh fuck. Because enough bad luck couldn’t hit, Christmas plans exploded. Boyfriend’s family wants 250€ from us and didn’t say shit before inviting us out for Christmas. Came up empty so far with finding work. Gonna head home early because I don’t wanna waste another month just to run out of money. Havin a rough day.

[low drum]

why do they want money from you

[white fern]

I paid duolingo so much money and still can't learn very well

[nocturne hawk]

well

duo is good as a start point

to know what you gotta study and stuff

but then you gotta search the language by yourself

[hot cloak]

Duolingo isn’t going to make you fluent. Fluency comes when you spend time having conversations —especially with native speakers. An hour a day in a piece of software will not make you fluent.

Some guy on quora

[kindred iris]

faq duo

[rocky goblet]

Duolingo

Duolingo is a decent resource to start with if you're a complete beginner, but it's neither efficient nor comprehensive!

What Duolingo will teach you about grammar is very limited, and none of the systems they use will help you practise much of it.
You can learn some vocabulary with it, but their method (based on the concept of spaced repetition) doesn't work for everybody, and the way Duolingo teaches is not very effective compared to the amount of time it requires from you.

So, if you find it useful, by all means keep using it, but remember not to fall for its gamification of language learning, and move past it when it stops being beneficial. Ignore the streaks.

In any case, keep in mind that Duolingo is not enough to learn a language, ever.

If you're looking for guidance or alternatives, check out >faq beginner in our #botchannel .

[kindred iris]

@white fern maybe read this.

[iron notch]

They want money from you? What for?

[junior sable]

Hello I'm looking for someone who is really fluent in German or a native from the German speaking countries. I need help with learning German, so if you could, message me by DM, thanks

[hot cloak]

XD

[slow cape]

Nicos Weg is a free learning tool

[hot cloak]

For coming for the holidays when they’re the ones that invited us out.

And they ditched us on top of that

[glad hinge]

Hep can i join practice room i am new

[delicate palm]

Can someone recommend a German Youruber? Not a language learning channel, like a German youruber gamer or fitness channel or something

Bitte

[glad hinge]

How can i join practice room i am new

[delicate palm]

You can’t join?

[hot cloak]

#getting-started

[glad hinge]

Yeah it is locked

[delicate palm]

Löl

So can anyone recommend any Duschte YouTubers?

[glad hinge]

After 15 min can i joined

[glad hinge]

Dw storiers

[dim idol]

Bodyformus

[opal sequoia]

Doesn't really work if you tell people. 👀

[maiden slate]

what the fuck

[hot cloak]

Yep

[maiden slate]

why do they want money from you

[hot cloak]

No clue bruh

[naive charm]

_For Beginners:
- targeted at learners
Easy German
Deutsch lernen mit der DW
Natürlich German
Natürlich Deutsch
Deutsch mit Rieke
DeutschLera
- targeted at german kids
Willi wills wissen
Wissen macht Ah! Channel
Bibliothek der Sachgeschichten
Die Biene Maja
Woozle Goozle
Checker Tobi
Checker Chan
Checker Julian
Die Maus

_Gaming:
Behaind (Comedy)
Battle Bros
HandOfBlood (Comedy)
Gronkh
Sgt Rumpel
Sarazar
Zombey
Altf4Games (Reviews)
gametwo (Comedy)
Fire Bro (Comedy)
Rahmschnitzel
Sturmwaffel
Paluten
byStegi
BastiGHG
Maudado
Maxify
MrMoreGame
Pietsmiet (Gameshows)
Senioren Zocken (Old people play games)
Ulti (Videos about trivia)
Hart aber Halbtrocken (formerly: Gameomat) (German Game Sins adaption) [occasionally Berlin dialect]
Game Grumps
Game Two (Reviews, TV length shows)

_Comedy/Sketches:
Varion
IBlali
YTitty (Permanently inactive)
Coldmirror
DerDrogg
Alexi Bexi
Browser Ballett
Space Frogs
RobBubble
Phil Laude
Zeo
Der Heider
DeChangeman / Josef (self experiments)

_German/Austrian TV broadcasting:
ZDF heute Show (Satirical news show)
NDR Doku (Various documentaries, slice of life)
NDR-Ratgeber (Miscellaneous)
TerraX Lesch und Co (Science)
TerraX Natur und Geschichte (Science documentary)
DW Deutsch (News)
ZDF Comedy
Extra 3 (Satirical news show)
Gute Nacht Österreich mit Peter Klien [Vienna dialect]
ARTEde

*Edutainment:
Cosmic Cortex (Podcast)
Wallulis
Dorfuchs (Math)
MrWissen2Go (Politics, History)
techtastisch (DIY)
MaiLab
MalGli
Dr. Allwissend (Comedy)
Simplicissimus (Video essays)
TapaKapa Erklärt (Animation) [Austrian dialect]
Breaking Lab
Kurzgesagt - Dinge erklärt (Animated short videos)
Dr. Whatson
Pikiponimation (Linguistic)
Zeidgenosse (Geography) [Swiss accent]
Sandrhoman Geschichte (History)
Clever Camel (Geography)
WildMics (Open Talks, Science communication, Podcasts)
GreenRabbit (Psychology, philosophy)
Sprechstunde mit Dr.Hegedüs (Medicine, Social, Education)
Daniel Jung (Math)
Niklas Kolorz (Mostly Shorts)

_Cooking:
Pommes Män
BBQ aus Rheinhessen
Hensslers Schnelle Nummer
CALLEkocht - Grandma's Recipes
kein Stress kochen
AhmetKocht
Rosins Restaurants (Similar to Gordon Ramsay Hells Kitchen)

_Vlogs:
3thedward
KELLY //missesvlog
Malwanne
Rezo (Music)

• Renzo (Commentary)
  Mirellativegal (TV Show commentary)
  AnniDieEnte
  Kupferfuchs

_Nerdculture:
Herr Eben
Akido (Gaming culture centered fast cut videos)
Mythos of Gaming (Retro Gaming)

_Society/Politics:
SinansWoche (Weekly shows)
Tamara Wernli
Doktorant
Massengeschmack TV (Talks on media)
Boris von Morgenstern (The Morgenstern Show)

_Attorney/Justice:
Wilde Beuger & Solmecke
Anwalt Jun
Herr Anwalt

_Miscellaneous:
Peter Frahm (mainly Personality coaching, Social Commentary)
Glücksdetektiv (Self-Improvement, positivity coaching)
Simplicissimus (Video Essays)

• 2 bored guys (Video essays)
  Der dunkle Parabelritter (Video essays)
  Ultralativ (Video Essays)
  Open Mind (Drug based comedy)
  Held der Steine (Lego brick commentary, Set review)
• Der Held (Misc. commentary, Talk)
  Marmeladenoma (Vlogs, Read alouds (eg. German fairy tales))
  World Wide Wohnzimmer (Talk Shows)
  Die Ravennas Deutschrap (Music Analysis / Commentary)
  Marti Fischer (Music, Comedy)
  Ehrenpflaume (Famous tv show host interviews youtubers)
  Best of Bundestag (Compilations from the german parliaments)
  Whiskey.de (Whiskey centered content)
  Fritz Meineke (Outdoor Survival)
  Leeroy wills wissen (Interviews)
  HYPERBOLE (Interviews)
  Fritz Meineke (Outdoor)
  Otto Bulletproof (Surivial military)
  Survival Maddin (Outdoor)

[delicate palm]

GOT Damn bro I ain’t need that much sheesh! Tuasend Danke

This is like if I asked for a doughnut and he gives me the entire bakery

[naive charm]

I had that list prepared already. I only copy and pasted it but you're welcome 😁

[maiden slate]

Hey

I’m out atm but

Don’t go

[ember ginkgo]

Was literally looking for sugg like this just now and saw this list. Vielen Dank!!!

[naive charm]

Gern geschehen!

[sudden panther]

@unreal pagoda hello. Please note that regardless of whether they're "okay with it" or not, the server is not a place to insult or mistreat anyone, nor is it a place to bring up NSFW topics. In addition, as the channel name implies, you're expected to speak German in #beginner-german and not English or Turkish.

[unreal pagoda]

😘😘😘

[hot cloak]

Based

[latent smelt]

Guten Abend good evening

[hot cloak]

Prolly gonna have to. I’m planning on leaving Germany on January 7.

Gonna build skills in the USA and come back with confidence.

Ich habe zurzeit nicht genug Fähigkeiten.

Ich brauche viele Zertifikaten mehr.

[ivory girder]

☹️

[hot cloak]

Do Germans usually use cash instead of credit?

[naive charm]

Germans have usually cash on them as many places only accept cash but it's starting to become less as mostly you can pay with cash or card.

[ivory girder]

old people will literally dig the entire purse for every last cent to pay

[maiden slate]

😦

[low heron]

woozle goozle, willi wills wissen mrwissen2go, simplicissimus und kurzgesagt 💕💕💕

[left jolt]

Tomatolix

[abstract vector]

jup, Videos von Simplicissimus sind mega geil willi will's wissen macht aber so lange Videos dass ich eins bisher noch nicht angeschaut habe

kommt auf meinem Feed ab und zu, vllt. sollte ich probiern

[low heron]

wit haven oft willi wills wissen in der schule angeschaut

in der volksschule und sogar in der nms

[low heron]

auf jeden fall!! es gibt auch sehr lustige edits bzw ytps von dem typen, empfehl‘ ich sehr ;))

[abstract vector]

aso, vllt schau ich mir an

[abstract vector]

boa eine coole Schule hast du

[low heron]

hatte ich* geh leider nicht mehr zur schule :((

[sudden panther]

@nova chasm heyo, we came to the same conclusion, but our solution is just reposting the buttons every now and then. Deploying soon.

Appreciate the tip though, it was definitely tricky to figure out.

[nova chasm]

ah, also good ^^

reposting the buttons every now and then
i think should be (at least) every 50 or 49 messages

[nova chasm]

i find the scrolling up and down is very tiring. i would love it if you could put it in a read-only channel like #christmas instead, or in addition

[sudden panther]

Yeah, I figured it might be better, but this is a quick and easy fix that doesn't require too much additional work for now. We'll switch to a more permanent option during the day. :^)

[nova chasm]

oh gotcha. ty!

[nova chasm]

it’s too far up already (a little over 50 msgs) in #1056333577182248970 again → the ephemerals disappear when scrolling down (on desktop and depending on how fast i scroll lol. they remain visible on Android)

[rocky goblet]

@peak pawn just gave :rock: Bulli's rock to @sudden panther!
This rock once belonged to Bulli. He used it as a pillow.

<@&1056333035626307634> got 8 points for @peak pawn's generosity.

[peak pawn]

Oh no

I stole Bullis rock

Oops

[keen mango]

Hey German language learners

[nova chasm]

hallöle

[sudden panther]

@vital tide hello. Discord is flagging your messages as spam, likely due to the repetitive emoji. We'd suggest a Google doc or something similar that everyone can access and edit.

[vital tide]

Ja i understood that from 10th try

[livid geyser]

DIKKA

du bist auch ein 🐊

[solid nimbus]

Was ist das

Dikka

[livid geyser]

Digga

[hot cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/cardano-crocs-club-crocodile-croc-too-many-crocs-gif-25911926

[atomic folio]

Hello fellow snack

[hot cloak]

hi you

[atomic folio]

G'day Croc

[hot cloak]

what are you up to on the holidays?

[atomic folio]

Reading and sleeping, a lot xD

[hot cloak]

same here hahaha xD not to forget eating

[atomic folio]

I wont eat a lot, I feel like i already ate too much xD

[hot cloak]

I feel you. For me its over now too thankfully

[atomic folio]

For me not, tomorrow xD

[hot cloak]

oh well. xD At least sth to look forward to

[atomic folio]

Yeah kinda

[hot cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/pateick-patrick-eating-food-yummy-gif-25101677

[hot cloak]

The ppl in this chat room are cooler than in general 1

[hot cloak]

Schnee und snow ist schön

Genauso wie Rentiere

[ashen spruce]

hello all 👋

[vernal tapir]

hello

[obtuse yacht]

holaaa

[misty epoch]

Guten Abend! Wie geht's?

[trim ermine]

im new

[heady roost]

Halloo

[shrewd shoal]

halo

[hot cloak]

TOT

[hot cloak]

halloo 🙂

[shell warren]

Bonjour

[kindred iris]

Hi hi !

[woeful matrix]

Henloo

[woeful matrix]

Oh sad how #general-2 is lonely

[celest thunder]

your presence is enough here

[maiden slate]

Leider

look a the bright side

[woeful matrix]

Omg u are too cute

[celest thunder]

no you friend

[hot cloak]

for sure choncc

that for sure

[woeful matrix]

No uuu

[celest thunder]

[celest thunder]

surely you and #1 dentist

[woeful matrix]

No u stopp

[woeful matrix]

Noooo

[celest thunder]

i win

[woeful matrix]

No u dont

[celest thunder]

i do, i have the ultimate reverse card, which cannot be reversed as the name suggests

[woeful matrix]

Idc

[celest thunder]

the card does not care about you not caring

[woeful matrix]

Shhh

[rocky goblet]

@woeful matrix just gave :icecream: icecream to @celest thunder!
Are you brave enough to eat it in the winter?

<@&1056333059085058048> got 17 points for @woeful matrix's generosity.

[celest thunder]

i will not be silenced

neither will be the card

[woeful matrix]

What if i give u icecream

[celest thunder]

i cannot be bribed

[woeful matrix]

Yes u can

[sharp lantern]

mute in 3, 2, 1..

[woeful matrix]

remind 1h gift

[rocky goblet]

Okay @woeful matrix. You will be reminded in 1 hour.

[woeful matrix]

Hqhahaah aldi got a point

[celest thunder]

oh god no lidl

bested by mods once again

[hot cloak]

does the discord mod being fat count here too

[woeful matrix]

What

[hot cloak]

google "discord mod simulator gif"

@woeful matrix

[rocky goblet]

@woeful matrix, 59 minutes and 59 seconds ago

You asked to be reminded about "gift"
[Jump to message](#general-2 message)

Reminder created · Dec 26, 2022, 9:02 PM

[kindred iris]

All of our mods are pretty girls, sorry.

[hot cloak]

[languid hearth]

Morgen

[rich dirge]

Gm

[rocky goblet]

@ivory girder just gave :teddy_bear: a teddy bear to @kindred iris!
He's very fluffy.

<@&1056333059085058048> got 32 points.

[ivory girder]

😀

[hot cloak]

XD

[sage kayak]

np

[shadow tree]

"Ich wünsche euch alle frohe Weihnacht, egal, ob ihr feiernst die Weihnacht oder auch nicht."

Ist das richtig?

[low drum]

nein

[hot cloak]

„Ich wünsche euch allen Frohe Weihnachten, egal ob ihr Weihnachten feiert oder nicht.“

[mental cape]

some actual resources please

[shadow tree]

danke schön

[kindred iris]

#resources

[mental cape]

do u know german?

[kindred iris]

Not very well.

[mental cape]

i didn't get from resources

they always send some websites

[mental cape]

can u tell me how u learned?

[kindred iris]

I mostly used Skeptrum course books for my A1 learning.

I also did a lot of reading and listening to music, I'd often rewrite what I would read/listen to.

Duolingo didn't help me much but Busuu did.

I also listened to podcasts like German Coffee break.

[mental cape]

thanks

any german song ^^

good songs

[kindred iris]

Depends on your taste, I like catchy pop songs because they'd stick to my brain and make me repeat verses and keep remembering the meaning of words.

[mental cape]

thanks for ur help

[kindred iris]

No problem, there's this playlist I'm having a hard time linking but I'll tag you in it when my Spotify stops acting up.

[torn field]

Can I find someone to talk German in here?

[glad bison]

Talk like call or talk like write in discord?

[torn field]

Like call and write sometimes of course

[digital heath]

[pure bronze]

You can use the available voice channels or chat in #german-only / #beginner-german

[polar hinge]

b

[ashen spruce]

good afternoon!

[opal sequoia]

@sick tulip Are you just using this server to advertise or are you planning to learn German?

[sick tulip]

To learn

[opal sequoia]

Okay, don't advertise without permission please or else you may get banned.

[hot cloak]

What the fuck

[nocturne frost]

@versed field please only post relevant information in #thing-of-the-day as it's intended as a learning resource for others

[polar hinge]

Hallo!

[hot cloak]

@nocturne frostcan you gift

[hot cloak]

simp

[kindred iris]

True.

[rocky goblet]

@nocturne frost just gave :soap: a bar of soap to @vale hornet!
Certainly an interesting gift choice...

<@&1056333059085058048> got 7 points.

[nocturne frost]

There, hope ur not a weirdo i just gifted to

[hot cloak]

Funi cat pfp

[orchid wren]

I'd be cautious with cat pfps, there are some real sickos behind those

[strong stratus]

@rugged cypress ily and thanks for votekicking bulli

[rugged cypress]

ily more uwu

[young hinge]

hi

[celest thunder]

hallo schlafsahne die immer verwirrt ist

[ivory girder]

🤨

[rugged cypress]

@ivory girder

[strong stratus]

hallöchen du

[celest thunder]

ayy lange nicht gesehen, alles gut bei dir ?

[strong stratus]

Ja, alles tanzt
und bei dir?

[celest thunder]

eeh passt schon

[smoky flax]

as a swedish speaker i must say i get a uncanny feeling when i read german lmao

it's quite funny

[hot cloak]

STARDENBURDENHARDENBART

[smoky flax]

metapod used harden

sorry that's all i got

[low drum]

@strong stratus

[ivory girder]

@strong stratus

[low drum]

Daywalker Nightstalker

[strong stratus]

Hallöle ich

[low drum]

Was geht bruda

[strong stratus]

[strong stratus]

Nicht viel & bei dir so?

[low drum]

Chillen

XD

[strong stratus]

Same

[strong stratus]

Bahhh, das doofe Tintenmännchen

[low drum]

Wann bist du wieder mehr aktiv? @strong stratus

Seit dein BF(Mathemann ) nicht mehr hier ist sehe ich dich nicht

[strong stratus]

Legenden besagen, dass dem nie wieder so sein wird, bis ans Ende meiner Tage

[low drum]

[strong stratus]

Im Oktober begann meine Polizeiausbildung, ich bin sehr beschäftigt

[low drum]

Ein prosit auf die gute alte Zeit

[low drum]

Das legt sich sicherlich bald

[strong stratus]

Ja, wenn die mich rauswerfen

[strong stratus]

[low drum]

Das wird nicht passieren, so jemand gutes wie dich bekommen sie nie wieder

[strong stratus]

Ich habe bald zwei Prüfungen, die ich unmöglich bestehen werde, also tschau kakao

[low drum]

Ach wassss

[strong stratus]

Habe mich schon nach anderen Stellen umgesehen

[low drum]

Du packst das ez

[strong stratus]

I wish

[low drum]

Werd Elektroniker

[strong stratus]

Ich will aber meine Verbeamtung behalten

[strong stratus]

Leider hat er uns verlassen, ich werde seinen Matheunterricht aber nie vergessen

[low drum]

Hmmm, von was handeln die Prüfungen?

[celest thunder]

mathemann ist zurück

[strong stratus]

Es sind Sportleistungsprüfungen, Schwimmen & Rettungsschwimmen

[strong stratus]

Oha

[celest thunder]

mhm

[low drum]

Help me, stepbro, im drowning

Erwähne mich doch, sonst werde ich nie auf die Nachricht reagieren

[sage kayak]

Rip

[ivory girder]

schwimmen

[hot cloak]

@strong stratuswas ?

seit wann kannst du programmieren ?

[hot cloak]

Ich fliege in Januar zurück nach den USA. Es macht mich traurig, da ich Deutschland liebe. Ich werde wiederkommen und hoffentlich wird es wann ich besser Deutsch sprechen kann.

[strong stratus]

Ich wünschte ich könnte dir helfen, aber dann ertrinken wir beide

[strong stratus]

Ja oder?

[strong stratus]

Seitdem ich motiviert bin, Bulli in AoC zu schlagen

[rugged cypress]

🤨

Falls ihr es nicht gewusst hattet, Kühe können schwimmen

[hot cloak]

aso das hast du extra wegen Bulli so gemacht

[hot cloak]

musst du auch vom 10 Meter Turm springen?

[strong stratus]

Das hat mich motiviert, es zu lernen, ja

Ist aber auch schon eine Weile her

[strong stratus]

Nein

[hot cloak]

warte du kannst das for real?

[low drum]

Das ist in Ordnung

[strong stratus]

Ja

Ich habe bis jetzt aber leider nur 5 Tage AoC geschafft, ich brauche immer eine Weile und habe wenig Zeit dafür

[strong stratus]

If we go down
then we go down to together

[sage kayak]

Yay, you go down

[low drum]

Yay

[strong stratus]

[sage kayak]

hehe

[hot cloak]

Halo ich bin neu hier!

[tardy yoke]

Was für bf 😒

[low drum]

Spaßi hasi

[hot cloak]

How do I get ride of this nickname

Oh nvm

[sudden panther]

Sahne my absolute favorite programmer. 😍

[sage kayak]

[wispy heron]

Someone teach me german pls

[hot cloak]

#getting-started

Herr Antrim on YouTube is the best

For introduction

Watch his A1 video

[hot cloak]

💀

[hot cloak]

Alright, 1000€ per word

[raw pecan]

okk i agree

[strong stratus]

[remote nimbus]

Hello!

[hot cloak]

Para de ser lobisomem pidão

[hot cloak]

Meet me under the bridge tonight at 2:48 am exact for your first lesson. (offerings such as pistachio ice cream and baklava are highly appreciated )

[hot cloak]

Hi hi!

Pfeifle

[hot cloak]

Bro, my rate is 500€ per letter of the word.

[minor nexus]

How good is your german?

[minor nexus]

Wait a second, you're charging 50% off aleoubi's rate for per letter of the word????

[hot cloak]

Upper A2 / Lower B1 Level — good enough to teach new people the foundations. Now, for the question, that’s gonna be 600€.

[hot cloak]

Supply and demand, bb

[minor nexus]

You wanna do some practice?

[hot cloak]

Later, for sure.

Can’t rn, currently making my way back to Dresden

[minor nexus]

How is it?

[hot cloak]

How is what? The train there or the city?

The train there is a long ass ride from Thüringen. The city itself is gorgeous.

[minor nexus]

Yes the city

[hot cloak]

It’s very pretty.

[minor nexus]

Beautiful

[hot cloak]

Anywho yes. If you come to Germany, commit visit Dresden. If you’re in Germany, commit visit Dresden.

[minor nexus]

I'll see about germany i have currently applied for a visa to go to austria

[minor nexus]

Do you stay in germany?

If it's not personal to you

[hot cloak]

For about another week yeah.

Gotta get some shit taken care of so I can come back asap.

[minor nexus]

I see

[hot cloak]

Whichever route gets me back fastest is the route I will take.

Worst case scenario, I come back in august as a student in Niedersachsen. Best case scenario, I get a job offer at any point before then and use that for a work visa / residence permit.

Either way, I’m getting my ass back here asap.

[minor nexus]

Aight

[minor nexus]

So you need to apply for a student visa in advance or what?

[hot cloak]

Yep

That is the plan

[minor nexus]

Ah

[hot cloak]

My university has an exchange program that imma make use of.

[minor nexus]

I've actually been waiting for 3 months for my visa now

💀

Guess it takes time

[hot cloak]

Yeah, I’m heading to Miami probably a week after I get back to the USA to start the process.

[minor nexus]

That's nice

[hot cloak]

Ye.

I’m debating whether I wanna fly to Miami or drive there.

It’s 4 hours from home

[minor nexus]

I sent a friend request

[minor nexus]

Both seem cool

I haven't been on a plane for over 5 years and the year i wanted to go covid hit

[hot cloak]

Accepted.

[hot cloak]

Damnnnnn. That sucks. I’d already have a work visa and internationally accepted bachelors degree if it weren’t for COVID.

Had to change universities because mine closed down.

[minor nexus]

Pandemic has certainly ravaged the world

[minor nexus]

Oh no... 😦

[hot cloak]

Yeah. Mine is open again so imma go back to it for the internationally accepted degree, but I’m not happy about it. It is what it is.

Transferring as much credits as possible from my other university.

If they tell me i have to do 2 semesters with them, that’s a cheap price to pay in the long run for a lifetime of better opportunities.

[minor nexus]

Oh I see

[hot cloak]

Went to University of South Florida until they closed down. Then went to University of Phoenix — which is great for IT shit tbh, but it’s only partially recognized in Germany; meaning it’s not worth shit in Germany. It’s fully recognized in the USA but the university doesn’t have the best rep anyways so I woulda had to transfer at some point anyways.

Gonna go back to them, and I’m hoping to use them to go to Universität Ösnabruck

Exchange program in Niedersachsen. Whee.

Annnnd if that doesn’t work, gonna take online classes so I can continue to be the nomad I am lmao

[minor nexus]

Oh cool

Also sorry for late reply i was having lunch

[hot cloak]

Yo, no worries bro.

[minor nexus]

Lol

[minor nexus]

I'm thinking of doing my studies in austria itself in later time and my teacher recommended that i start looking for universities considering how it is my final year in high school and i will graduate

[hot cloak]

Ay, do it if you’re feeling it.

All the German speaking countries are doing great as far as their economies go.

And they’re all known for being beautiful too.

I wanna visit Austria at some point too knowing that.

[minor nexus]

Nice, perhaps if there's a possibility we can meet up that is if you are comfortable lol

[hot cloak]

I don’t mind either way. I’m chill.

austria is beautiful i gotta say

by the way

[hot cloak]

I wanna do an exchange with uni

But first i have to get in uni

Technically im a student there still

But for another major

Astronomy

And I want to study engineering so i'm applying again 💀

[peak pawn]

Now that’s quite the change

[hot cloak]

Jose might be the next head of a space program

Astronomical engineering haha

I lack a healthy fear of strangers.

[hot cloak]

Look into yours n see if it has one?

Lotta universities have alliances with other universities.

[hot cloak]

They do

With tmu and a bunch of other ones

Or tum i dont remember well

The one in munich

https://www.tum.de/

This one

I need better german tho, i think for most the requirement was b1

Nice

[vital tide]

Requirement is C1 or B2

B1 is trash you will be sent to Studienkolleg

[left jolt]

b1 is definetly too low a level for comfort

truly anything under c1 is

[hot cloak]

B1 is indeed really low, i think that is middle school level

[hot cloak]

^

[hot cloak]

Everyone in UTC+10 timezone
I wish you a happy new year
The following countries:

[hot cloak]

Everyone in UTC+9 timezone
I wish you a happy new year
The following countries:

[hot cloak]

Everyone in UTC+8 timezone
I wish you a happy new year
The following countries:

[ivory girder]

no offense

can you shut up

you dont have to do this every hour

[hot cloak]

I wont, be sure about that

[mental cape]

Lmao every hour

[celest loom]

Seems like you have woken your inner grinch… and he is not here to play:’/

[hot cloak]

Livin' upto ur name

[hot cloak]

Everyone in UTC+7 timezone
I wish you a happy new year
The following countries:

[ivory girder]

does my mom count

:(

[celest thunder]

ofc! parents >>>

i wish i could spend new years with mine

[hot cloak]

I hope you spend every new year's with your parents with a lot of hugs and pistachio ice cream

[ivory girder]

wth where did they go

now it looks like i talked to myself

[celest thunder]

theyre roughly 4500 km away from me xD

[celest thunder]

thank you kindest owl i hope you never run out of pistachio ice cream

[ivory girder]

i meant the person and the messages i responded to, i know where your parents are (non creepy way)

[hot cloak]

Of course kindest mango I hope you go to georgia Jordan soon and spend everyday with your family

[ivory girder]

your family is probably doing fine today so just think about them 😁

[celest thunder]

i mean i called them and wished them a happy new year, but still not the same :D

[ivory girder]

true....

[celest thunder]

may your new year be as wonderful as you are @ivory girder @hot cloak ^^ you truly deserve the best

[ivory girder]

🥹

[hot cloak]

And I hope you have our wonderful new year which means X3 wonderfulness just like you
You deserve the best too

Everyone in UTC+6 timezone
I wish you a happy new year
The following countries:

[hot cloak]

Happy New Year to all in India 🇮🇳

Happy new year, server!

Everyone in UTC+5 timezone
I wish you a happy new year
The following countries:

[celest thunder]

@hot cloak happy new year mate!

[hot cloak]

I hate this day

Just leave me during the time when here new year is

[errant nacelle]

you used the German word order in an English sentence ^^

[fleet summit]

WOAH

He is almost applying german to english

the most rule empty language

ever

[hot cloak]

Just leave me

[fleet summit]

I have hunger

[toxic prawn]

eat something

[errant nacelle]

ok

[hot cloak]

wat

i cry

[hot cloak]

Everyone in UTC+3 timezone
I wish you a happy new year
The following countries:

[left jolt]

no middle schoolers are already better than c2 speakers

[naive charm]

It's different with natives as they are aquiring their language naturally and don't do grammar drills and stuff

So at no point in time can you compare a native with a sec lang speaker

[hot cloak]

Weißrussland, White Russia XD

[outer mortar]

hey everyone!! happy new year!!🥂 🥂 this new year I wanna learn German, as am very excited to visit Germany shortly!!

[hot cloak]

Hell yeah. You got this.

[hot cloak]

Today’s the last day I have with my boyfriend before he’s busy with work and I fly back to the USA in a week. Imma need luck not to cry too much today.

[mental cape]

don't worry

[hot cloak]

Yeah, I’ll be alright. It just sucks.

[vital tide]

bruh after school student is at C1 level

(speaking about native language of school)

[hot cloak]

Happy new years from me and my nerd.

He’s gonna visit me on the 6th and that’ll be the last time I see him until we either go to the UK together or until I find a way to quickly manage a work visa (with a job offer) back to Germany.

[errant nacelle]

@pallid kindle can you see this message?

[pallid kindle]

[stone locust]

king

[elder gyro]

thats awsome

[arctic atlas]

@earnest horizon glad you enjoyed christmas but maybe you shouldn't post pictures of children on a big public server like this, even if they're related to you

[earnest horizon]

@arctic atlas ok, thank you. I'm new to discord, and I don't really know all the rules.

[left jolt]

I dont want to be rude but I just cannot fathom the multitude of people who cannot seem to understand just how much better than average native speaker will always be over even the most advanced L2 learner (besides rules/grammar knowledge). And how CEFR are literally impossible to equate to native speakers

Native speakers are thus way beyond the threshold of C2 level, tho they are not to be equated anyway

[naive charm]

It's just a matter of how many words and phrases you know above C2. No magic

[left jolt]

The single most thing is idiomatic usage, which to an extent is impossible to learn. Vocab is also up there, but is theoretically possible

By idiomatic usage I mean bending the language to work in unusual or different ways or having a grasp to construct phrases and ideas that are .. just how a native speaker would be able to show a more developed use and interaction than learners would be able to

This, to a certain extent, is impossible to learn which is why CEFR cannot equate

[celest thunder]

i agree with ziel here

no CEFR level will ever get you to a native level, but i think that its because both measure two different things

even a native has to prepare for a C1/C2 exam, because the language in the exam isn't something occurring naturally from day to day

it takes more than a certificate to speak and process languages naturally like a native speaker

[left jolt]

And... to be fair many C1/C2 certificate holders are not really fluent at all

[celest thunder]

yup

[potent lava]

I disagree. I think it is absolutely possible to get to the same level as a native speaker. Sure we might never make it to 100% but once you reach (an estimated) 95% most people won't be able to tell you're not a native speaker

[naive charm]

Bending the language rules in new and unusual ways is something even most natives are not good at. Not every native is Goethe.

[left jolt]

Thats not what I mean

You can go slang route "I aint done gon finna" or in a better case stuff like knowing "i obliterated" my toe on that banister versus "broke" "hurt" "fucked up" "rear-ended"

In fact thats good, using words that are normally for other things in other ways like rear-ending is normally for cars but you can say it for a lot of other things and non-natives do not always have that grasp

[potent lava]

I feel like that's just the level of immersion tho

there is gonna be things you as a native English speaker won't understand if you go Australia

[left jolt]

Yes, and which is why natives will have had way more immersion to be at that ability, whereas a learner will never catch up. Not that this truly matters because you can learn to a good enough level where that is minute in difference

But its just true that effectively a learner can never "be better" than a native speaker, in the whole of it all. Yes, they will "know" why and how grammar works but thats really void of all meaning compared to utilization of the language

[potent lava]

you have time to hop in voice for a minute?

[left jolt]

I don

[potent lava]

well like I said I disagree, I think it's possible to catch up and in some cases even overtake a native speaker, they might be rare but they are not non-existent

[left jolt]

I do not understand how you can disagree with objectivity

By "a native speaker" do you mean the least educated or the most?

As in, a learner can overcome the most educated speakers

[potent lava]

is a learner ever gonna overtake someone like Jordan Peterson? No. Can a learner overtake the average person? Yes

it depends on who you're comparing obviously.

[left jolt]

You are underestimating the average person

I have talked to people who are objectively less intelligent and are still better than learners

[potent lava]

I think you are overestimating the average person

[left jolt]

The average person has complete fluency

[left jolt]

I interact with hundreds on the daily

[potent lava]

sure and I think a learner can achieve that

[left jolt]

Even accent wise?

[potent lava]

yes

[left jolt]

Not sure I believe that

[potent lava]

maybe not 100% but close to that

[left jolt]

You are forgetting that a native would be at this 100%

So how could they surpass that

[potent lava]

I mean accent wise, not language wise, there is more to a language than an accent

[left jolt]

Yes but if a native already has the accent over you, which is not close to everything but still very important, and have other things over you, i fail to see how its possible

[naive charm]

For the accent it will be hard work to get that perfect for non natives. That's why most learners never bother that much.
But as Catoku said apart from the accent it's just a matter of how much productive immersion you had.

There is no clear line to be drawn

[celest thunder]

agreed, which is why i said no CEFR certificate will get you close

with immersion its 100% possible

will take many years though

[naive charm]

And my English can sounds and function like a natively acquired one even though I only learned it later in life.

[left jolt]

Non natives be like: knowing the word kredenzen but not Röntgen

[livid geyser]

I think it’s just immersion fam, like grammar is useful for writing n stuff but actually being spontaneous and talking like lawnmower you just gotta get exposed a LOT to your target language then it’s ggs

[naive charm]

Knowing words and phrases is just a matter of productively spend immersion time

[potent lava]

I am unsure on how to convince you of something you are clearly not receptive to, all I can say is I didn't speak a word of English until I was about 14 years old, I am married to a Man who only speaks English, have lived in Canada for only 3 years and every single person that learns English isn't my first language after month of interacting with me is more than just a little surprised

[celest thunder]

precisely what im staying herr niemann

[livid geyser]

Exactly Herr Choncc

[left jolt]

talking like lawnmower is the exact type of idiomatic usage i was meaning. i never would have come up with this, and if i were non native english never in a million years, yet it works and is perfectly fine @naive charm

[celest thunder]

mind you niemann isn't a native speaker

[livid geyser]

bro there is one problem

im egyptian

[celest thunder]

neither am i

[livid geyser]

It is very hard tho

[left jolt]

Yes but its not just an instance of one phrase, its tens of thousands. Im just using that one as an example

[celest thunder]

yeah

it comes with years, and i mean a lot of years of exposure and immersion

[livid geyser]

Just hang out with bros in your target language, a couple years in and you’ll be indistinguishable from them

[livid geyser]

exactly

[naive charm]

The point is there is no line to be drawn. And thus learners can reach the same level, if they spend enough time with it.

You can get stuck on weird speaking habits though if you start learning a language with grammar and weird unnatural constructions.

[left jolt]

Id disagree they can reach the same level. I do however agree that they can reach a level which is close enough to effectively be indistinguishable as the sort of language that is being differentiated does not just come out all the time in day to day life, its more of a rare occurrence where you learn something else like that

[naive charm]

The way most learners nowadays approach a new language with grammar books in school, you are probably right. They will never have the time to rewire their brain naturally after having been exposed to textbook language and early output mistakes for so long.

I would say the earlier you start naturally immersing yourself the closer you can get to a native as you don't need to revert the damage of grammar drills and language courses

[naive charm]

Languages courses and textbooks aren't bad per se and can really help to get into immersion, but you need to know when to leave the path and start immersion.

[potent lava]

it also depends on the language it self I guess, I find English to be significantly easier than German, for everyday use in particular

[left jolt]

Also it seems the english learners here rarely make mistakes and the german learners, even higher levels, make mistakes on the daily

[naive charm]

Me trying to learn Chinese will need more than 10 years of exposure probably to get to the level of an adult native, as the further you get the slower it will be to improve.

[left jolt]

Yes there is a guy Vladimír Škultéty who is translator and interpreter of Mandarin Chinese and he said it took him 10 years

apparently he sounds like Taiwanese native but i couldnt verify

[naive charm]

A 18 year old native will have 18 years of exposure. So if I want to reach that level it's no wonder that I am nowhere near that after having only exposued myself 30h a day for 3 years. Far from it.

But it's theoretically possible and has been done.

[left jolt]

however I work as an interpreter of Mandarin Chinese, Slovak and English and speak 15 languages, 11 of them at a C1-C2 level.

he good with learning

[naive charm]

But for most adults in their day to day life practically Impossible to reach native level when you only invest a few hours everyday.

It do be theoretically possible though.

And that's the point.

The term native speaker is ambiguous

[left jolt]

only somewhat

[naive charm]

Where is the cutoff point?

[left jolt]

but thats why we have heritage speaker to make it less so

[potent lava]

dialects play a big role

[naive charm]

If I learned a languages since 2 years old, am I a native? What about 5, 8, 10?
Where is the cutoff point

[left jolt]

yes

usually under around 11

if u actually speak on the level of a native, that is. if not you are heritage speaker if your parents speak it to you

[naive charm]

Usually? And will there be a big reason between a 10 and 12 year old when they started?

[left jolt]

i think its where u learned from passive instead of active learning

i learned german from 14 but its all active learning

if u learn german from 10 and its passive learning mostly then it makes sense, as in u move to germany to go to school

[potent lava]

that's what we've been saying

passive learning or immersion is what it's all about

[naive charm]

So if I, a 24 year old German get adopted into a Thai household and live there for 20 years. Am I a native?

[left jolt]

Nope

[naive charm]

Even though I passively acquire the language there?

[left jolt]

a person who learned to speak the language of the place where they were born as a child rather than learning it as a foreign language

thats a foreign language in all the sense

you wouldnt passively acquire it

you would need a heavy dose of active learning

how would u learn the alphabet passively

[naive charm]

And if I'm born in Egypt but my parents move to Germany when I'm 2 years old and only speak German with me, I'm not?

I can learn a language passively with every age.

Simply out of survival our brain will adapt after some time

[left jolt]

Are they fluent german, otherwise you wouldnt learn from them youd learn arabic and then german in school where you could become a native speaker

[left jolt]

I can assure you that you cannot

You learn some things passively of course, but as an adult the bulk of learning must be active, dedicated learning

[left jolt]

What i wanted to say here is that people in Thailand know the alphabet before they actually learn it

Or anywhere else actually

Kids learn the alphabet and the sounds and then later on actually learn it if you understand what I mean

[naive charm]

Missionaries did however in the past.
If you go to an unknown tribe and live with them for the rest of your live there is no grammar books and no vocabulary.
But many people did successfully acquire the language due to survival. Out of necessity.

If there is no alternative for you, you will adapt and passively acquire

[left jolt]

If you go to a classroom for language teaching is that active or passive learning? Because that would be a similar thing to equate here

If thats true why are there immigrants in germany for 20+ years who do not speak german

or anywher else

[naive charm]

Both. There is always sone passive factor as you always listen to or read stuff.

[left jolt]

Reading is active

listening is usually active but can have passive qualities

[potent lava]

I agree as far as vocabulary goes, a good chunk of it is active learning but all the grammar can be learned passively

[left jolt]

kind-of i learned the cases in german from music, only after i studied the tables

then i listened to music with lyrics and thats how i understood how the cases worked

There was the active part of having to read the tables and do exerices

[naive charm]

If you mean active as in actually trying to understand, than babies also learn actively because they also want to understand

[potent lava]

I cannot tell you a single grammar rule in german or english, that shit comes in through my eyes and leaks straight out of my ears without any processing in between

[naive charm]

And reading is just listening through the eye

[left jolt]

Then how come if we throw a baby into a box for 20 years they wouldnt speak a language

[left jolt]

ive forgotten a lot too but u certainly can remember some

[naive charm]

Because they are not interacting with the world and not getting any input

[left jolt]

input = passive

output = active

[potent lava]

I'm also dyslexic so words in general are not my medium

[naive charm]

Didn't you just say reading is active?

[left jolt]

Yes

[naive charm]

You are not making sense. Reading is input

[left jolt]

You have to actively get your body to open a book and then force your mind to read the words and then use materials to look up unknown words and then put those unknown words into your brain via flash cards or repetition

Getting read to would be passive

As children do

Part of reading is learning as in input, part of reading is using what you have learned as in output. I should say that @naive charm

I get what you mean that some parts of reading is a passive act

[potent lava]

so if I put on a movie in a language that I'm trying to learn and put on subtitles in that language, is that active or passive learning?

[left jolt]

But if you pick up a pick in Georgian and dont speak Georgian

..

[left jolt]

Mostly passive, if you however write down stuff you dont know and use it to learn, or learn some as you go theres active elements to it

If you just listen the whole time and dont do anything else id say passive

As children do as kids

[naive charm]

You know that converting sound waves to meaning is listening right?
Reading is converting the visual images to meaning.
How is one passive and one active?

Anyways take care gn8!

[left jolt]

gn

[potent lava]

good night

anyways, to finish off this discussion, all I was saying originally is that I think it is possible for the average person to get to the same level a native speaker can. How and how fast is entirely dependent on the person. It's just not gonna happen over night. It's years of dedication and mostly immersion (or passive learning) imo

[celest loom]

One will always be an outcast though… even as a native moving from one town to another one will end up as... the new guy…

[solar flower]

hi, my friends, any good music recommendations?

[celest thunder]

genre?

[hot cloak]

Is this guy banned or something

[compact leaf]

yea but thats the same for everyone everywhere, thats why many dont leave the hometown. there are advantages and disadvantages for both wegs

and being new is not the same as an outcast

you will get a new opportunity to give a first impression at the new place, just be who your best self is

[toxic prawn]

Hoffentlich nicht. Er war sehr nett.

[pallid kindle]

Nicht ganz

[remote crown]

Hallo all

any natives will you help me with german language plz

[solar flower]

Good morning!

[hot cloak]

why are yall up at like 2 IN THE MORNING

[solar flower]

I like pop, or light music

[solar saffron]

we live in the superior time zone

[hasty valley]

I am trying to email babysit my regional manager because he forgot what time his own restaurant closed. I am just the dishwasher

[tepid schooner]

Wasn passiert?

[blissful ginkgo]

Hella sus pfp

[hasty valley]

why is pfp sus

[blissful ginkgo]

dude

[hasty valley]

Not my business if you don't like booby demon

[hot cloak]

Interesting charts about the population density of various countries

[celest thunder]

ah definitely not what i listen to

[hot cloak]

So nice

[high cairn]

just go to youtube with a vpn in germany or search up things and add "deutsch"

[hot cloak]

It was obvious given that 1 in 5 people lives in Istanbul but i still wasn't expecting such a dreadful map

[hot cloak]

Istanbul has been the center and capital of many states and nations for centuries, both religiously and politically and its policy is in a very important place in this world. You shouldn't be surprised

🌚

[hot cloak]

I guess we are both from Turkey anyways hahaha

[hot cloak]

Are you into space 🤔 @hot cloak

[hot cloak]

Not so much.

Ah sad, i'm deeply into it. Had a misconception because of your banner

[silent osprey]

passive for sure

active learning = learning language actively can be through grammer and conversation/writing practices

[hot cloak]

My field of interest is very different, including space but in a different way

[silent osprey]

passive = no self effort

meaning you learned it mostly unknowingly because of your exposure to the language

you did not study or learned it to learn

passive takes alot more time than active

[rugged cypress]

you're responding to messages from 2 days ago

[silent osprey]

and of course passive learners usually know more than ones who dont

[silent osprey]

ah damn

I didnt know

[potent lava]

I know, I was just gonna use that example because prior to that someone said something about reading being active because you actively grab the book and open it (which you do with a movie, too) and I understand that readying more often than not is active but not because you actively grabbed a book and decided to read it.

[twilit sphinx]

Ankara 06

[minor orbit]

Poooh ich auch

[twilit sphinx]

pooh

[silent osprey]

oh, sorry in that case

[solar saffron]

very balanced population lmao

[silent osprey]

agreed

[hot cloak]

Oh I'dd like to hear more

I actually had lots of space pictures just like your banner in my phone

They're mostly gone after the reset tho

[hot cloak]

Positive note — I now have a tax number so I can actually use that for employment purposes. Shit note, I got it this week and fly out on the 7th. Oh well, it’s still a step in the right direction.

[errant nacelle]

<@&305455824174710787>

[ivory girder]

no leer she did nothing wrong cmon

[errant nacelle]

oh no, you caught me, now I have to get rid of you too

[hot cloak]

is turkey european? 🤔

[wooden olive]

What languages are you guys planning to learn?
Asking because I want to see if there is anyone else who plans on learning a ton of languages

[west burrow]

im already learning a fat ton of languages

all at the same time

im learning italian, french and german

i think ill quit german next year and do spanish instead bc my german teacher is an old creepy woman. but ill prob finish deutsch in college

[worn turtle]

Hello

[patent turtle]

(hallo @glacial hemlock !)

[glacial hemlock]

moin moin

[wooden olive]

Im currently learning German (using a book) and French (Taking a class) But I am planning to learn a whole lot of languages

One of which is Icelandic and I have no idea how im going to do that

[dreamy bane]

slowly but surely 👍🏻

[celest thunder]

you got this

[wooden olive]

I should clarify I dont think I cant do it

I think it will be hard to find good resources to do it

[dreamy bane]

when there is a will, there is a way

textbooks, online resources like yt

one at a time if you find it difficult to learn so many at the same time

[wooden olive]

Yeah, Thats the plan

[wooden olive]

I try to do 2 at a time specifically 2 languages that are quite different

[dreamy bane]

thats a good plan

[wooden olive]

For example

currently I am learning French And German

[dreamy bane]

si, good luck

[iron notch]

That is a bit of a complicated topic, I think. Geographically, Turkey is transcontinental, with the majority of its land and the capital being in Asia, and over the half of the biggest city being in Europe. So geographically it's both in Europe and Asia. Culturally, it would heavily depend on where in Turkey and what parts of the culture you're talking about.

[iron notch]

So there isn't a clear yes or no answer

[knotty cairn]

Hey Ali

@iron notchAre you the Ali that lives in: Near Red Area DHA 5 sector 8 Block 3 Street 51B House.no 312 I thought your mom banned Discord so you lied to me!! ,

[sudden panther]

Please don't post anything that looks like people's personal information, whether real or fake.

[indigo zenith]

Hallo

[craggy marsh]

Arrem, your profile picture is lovely, I just wanted to say that :v

[inland marsh]

Hi

[velvet matrix]

My friend in Germany has sent me a gift in the mail - can I wait to open it when we're on video chat together later this week? Would it be rude to wait to open it, or to open it in front of him? Idk if gift giving customs are different in Germany ^^"

[sharp lantern]

you can just ask them, it‘s an individual preference

[velvet matrix]

ok will do thank you!!

[knotty cairn]

Sorry

Won't do it again

@vague kindle Bro can you hear me?

[high cairn]

ß

[hot cloak]

The ß

[solar saffron]

ß

[hot cloak]

How did you become B level

Just wondering

[ionic hull]

I spy a Raptor pfp

[blazing light]

How long have you guys been learning German, and how comfortable are you?

[hot cloak]

👀

[ionic hull]

Man tbh I like the F-15 a little more

Still wish the STOL/MTD wasn't a test plane

[hot cloak]

STOL/MTD would be a thing

Raptor is more aesthetic and advanced in technology tho but F15's are quite good

Qatar haf received them in the last year iirc

Had*

[ionic hull]

I think they're both really aesthetic

[ionic hull]

Not to mention the immortality of the Eagle

[hot cloak]

Inlets 👀

[ionic hull]

In what?

idk that many plane terms I just really like planes

[hot cloak]

Those two things next to the cockpit

[ionic hull]

OHHHH THE INTAKES

Y o s

Best fighters with intakes are the ones who only have one though

Especially if it's the Falcon

Or the X-32

[hot cloak]

Hahah Falcon's are getting old

[ionic hull]

They are, ngl

I just like their big goofy smiles

[hot cloak]

But The Viper is still one of the bests

[ionic hull]

Definitely

[hot cloak]

Since June of 2022, and I can comfortably file paperwork in the German residency offices.

I can also comfortably sit with German friends and family and understand everything said even if I can’t always reply.

Vocab can be a bitch.

Been learning a lot of food vocab as of late since a lot of the discussions have been about what I’ve been cooking.

[minor peak]

Hallo

[high cairn]

I felt like I was at a B level...

[lilac marsh]

hallo

sind leute heir

[junior parcel]

Only a part of then like Russia. The most part of Russia and Turkey are located in Asia, but Russia has more desenvolviment and behave like an europian country. In the case of Turkey it is more like an asian country

[hot cloak]

Aufenthaltserlaubnis — word to memorize

[twin kernel]

Pretty sure that's residential permit

[naive charm]

What are you using for vocab learning? Flashcards or something?

[hot cloak]

Grocery stores.

I’m in Germany, so it’s easier to learn the vocab when I can see the food in the store named with the German names directly lol.

[naive charm]

Unexpected for sure, but of course 😄

[hot cloak]

Yeah, main thing that kicks my ass with cooking is the verbs moreso than the foods themselves.

I can make food without recipies, the issue becomes explaining HOW I’m cooking something.

[naive charm]

You mean these right? braten, kochen, frittieren, dünsten, rösten, anschwitzen, etc.

[hot cloak]

Yeeeeep.

[naive charm]

They often have very specific meanings

Even I sometimes looked them up as I started cooking by myself

[hot cloak]

I appreciate the list.. imma just make that an Anki deck rq — but yeah. It’s a pain in the neck haha. To include dicing veggies or crushing garlic — etc.

Heckin… imma make dedicated topic decks

[naive charm]

It's just the very tip of the iceberg that I wrote there

[hot cloak]

Oh, yeah, I figured as much, but I need topic decks.

[naive charm]

This list seems kinda exhaustive
https://www.kochrezepte.at/kochlexikon

[hot cloak]

Thanks fam. You’re a gem.

[naive charm]

No need to thank me.

That was a five seconds google search

[hot cloak]

There’s one called rote Ribisel

[gleaming sundial]

Hey, @sudden panther, tried to private-message you but it failed.

Add the jar as a dependency of a dummy project in IntelliJ, then just use its editor to view sources since a .class decompiler is built in.
I don't think I managed to do it.

I created a "dummy_project", opened Project Settings > Modules > Dependencies > Navigated to the project's directory I wanted to read the jars from.
IntelliJ scanned the directory, selecting two roots in the directory "WEB-INF\classes\setup\sql\migrate" and "WEB-INF\lib\domain-3.10.2.0.src\core-geonetwork\domain\src\main\java"
Are you sure it works?

[pure bronze]

What I did: File -> Project Structure -> Libraries -> Add your .jar

Then you will find it in the external libraries section in your project view.

[pallid kindle]

#coding smK

[gleaming sundial]

got it! ❤️

[gleaming sundial]

wollte nicht da es weiter spamieren hehe

[gleaming sundial]

smK?

(ich) schüttele meinen Kopf?

[pallid kindle]

Ja

[gleaming sundial]

Thx!

[hot cloak]

Wer möchte eine rote Ribisel essen?

[indigo zenith]

Is there anyone like to speak with me in German ?

I'm beginner

[solar saffron]

You can maybe go to #beginner-german and have conversation there

[indigo zenith]

Hallo

Is there anyone can help me out in German

[rugged cypress]

If you have any specific questions, feel free to use #questions

[remote crown]

Hallo

[minor spire]

help

[rocky goblet]

Voice commands

:small_blue_diamond: **nowplaying**

Displays the currently playing song and its remaining duration.

:small_blue_diamond: **play** <prompt>

Queues a song to be played by the music bot. This command will only work if you are connected to a voice channel that has at least two members.
The given prompt can be either a YouTube link or a query that will be used to search YouTube and fetch the first result.
Please note that playing any sort of nationalistic, war-related songs, songs that violate our rules or abusing the feature in any way will get you blacklisted.

:small_blue_diamond: **queue**

Displays the songs that are in the song queue.

:small_blue_diamond: **skip**

Votes to skip the currently playing song.
For a skip vote to pass, more than a half of the members in the currently playing voice chat (rounded up) must vote for the skip.

:small_blue_diamond: **upcoming**

Displays the upcoming song and its remaining duration.

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[manic smelt]

nowplaying

[rocky goblet]

The bot is not playing any songs.

Ludovico Einaudi - Experience [00:05:18] added to the queue.

[gilded shale]

is there something you would like recommend, something special for vocab learning. I now have ended up with too many decks and flashcards and rarely check them in Anki I mean

[naive charm]

There is no magical solution. In Anki it's best to focus on three decks max at a time and do them consistently

[pallid kindle]

https://tenor.com/view/magic-gif-26166638

[sage kayak]

Since there is quite a lot of random media that was posted here, most of it was deleted and please consider posting in #1025098289521119293 instead

[fringe path]

@primal thunder Wowzers somebody coming to Austria

May I ask where you are from?

[hot cloak]

I’m in the USA again. You know what that means; time to immerse myself in German. Lmfao.

[ivory girder]

:(

[hot cloak]

Yeah, I’m not happy to be away either. I’ll be back asap tho and we can hang out then. I’ll be back this year.

[ivory girder]

:D

[fringe ocean]

:D

[cosmic thunder]

👀

[eternal niche]

Hello good people, can someone suggest me some good videogames to help me practice german? My level is A2-ish. I tried my beloved Disco Elysium but that is really really too hard