resources

[rose siren]

i cant get any more yellow words

[indigo garden]

Have you paid for the premium?

[rose siren]

no

is their anyway to do it without premium

[indigo garden]

You can only have like 20 words in yellow with free version

[rose siren]

i deleted them

the 20 words I learned thinking it would free up space

[indigo garden]

So if you go into "Vocabulary" do you see any words?

[rose siren]

no

[indigo garden]

Hmm , then you should be able to add more...

Have you tried logging in / out , or restarting the page?

[rose siren]

let me try

how do I sign out

[indigo garden]

Top right

Over your profile picture

[rose siren]

avatar?

or stats

[indigo garden]

The one that has the red (4) on this picture

[rose siren]

oh I dont have that

im on mobile

[indigo garden]

Ohh

Give me a second and ill check my phone

[rose siren]

ok thank you

wait i found it

[indigo garden]

Yeah i just found it aswell

The 3 dots at the end

[rose siren]

yeah

[indigo garden]

Then logout under profile pic

[rose siren]

still wont let me add more

after logging out and in

oh well

thank you for helping me

[indigo garden]

Not sure if you can even do more then 20 lingq in the free mode

Like mark 20 words in total

Ive never used the free mode

[rose siren]

oh

any other way to learn german

app wise

[indigo garden]

I use Babbel for structured lessons

Then lingq for things i enjoy , like translating songs or books

[rose siren]

is that free?

[indigo garden]

No , unfortunatly

[rose siren]

oh

[indigo garden]

You could do duolingo if you look up grammar lessons and such yourself

[rose siren]

I heard rosetta stone is good

[indigo garden]

But never do ONLY duolingo

Rosetta stone is like babbel ive heard

[rose siren]

oh

ill try rosetta stone

thank you so much for the help

[indigo garden]

Kein problem 🙂

[rose siren]

im gonna try german by nemo because my device is too old for rosetta stone

[indigo garden]

If you have a computer , you can do all those apps on the web

[rose siren]

wait really

[indigo garden]

Yap

I do my reading / listening on the phone while on my way to work. And then alot on my computer when i get home

[rose siren]

thats mega nifty

[indigo garden]

Theres alot of material everwhere you look 😛

If your an absolute beginner , just search "German A1" in youtube and you will get a bunch of results

[rose siren]

Is a1 the european language learning system

[indigo garden]

Yeah

A -> C

[rose siren]

Oh nifty

In America we do n1 to I1 to e1

[indigo garden]

Germany is in Eu , so makes sense to use that 😛

[rose siren]

Yeah

[slow flume]

@rose siren CEFR is used in America

[rose siren]

oh

[frank canopy]

Hey, I've just started learning German (so far I have only been doing Doulingo). Does anyone know of a resource similar to https://www.spanishdict.com/ but for German?

Something that provides a dictionary, conjugations, tenses, cases, examples, etc

[lusty stump]

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=cc.dict.dictcc

[rose siren]

nifty

[carmine canopy]

Idk if anyone has posted this resource yet but Leo is a lifesaver when it comes to verb conjugations
https://dict.leo.org/german-english/

[rose siren]

nifty

[wind urchin]

Preliminary

@fleet fractal @umbral flicker This is my preliminary release. It's missing some audio.

Orthographic gender hints are included. And where there aren't any I added fake additional letters to words 🙂

[fleet fractal]

Im fallimg asleep

[wind urchin]

That was my experiment, and I'll probably remove them at the end.

[fleet fractal]

Ill look at it later

[wind urchin]

OK. NP

1. Purple = neuter
2. Pink = feminine
3. Blue = masculine
4. Green = Dative
5. Orange = Highlight

It has about 800 words. And the total vocab list is 2000 words.

[umbral flicker]

Trax!!!!!!! thanks a million!

My face is like the cat on my profile pic right now

[wind urchin]

:)

[rose siren]

hi

[cursive burrow]

Guys, do u know any source where i can find some short text, novels, short story or smth like that in german?

[carmine canopy]

Deutschperfekt has short texts

you can check it out

[signal knoll]

@carmine canopy Thanks for the info!

[little falcon]

Hi there folks ! Hope you’re doing well. Am looking up for recommendations regarding relevant materials and ressources. I’m starting learning from scratch

[grand maple]

Check out pinned comments on this channel.

Check out the google doc.

[quasi tinsel]

Hello! I found a funny podcast, which discusses harry potter chapter by chapter. Its called Hagrids Hütte, i found it on spotify but it looks like they have other mediums too. As a heads up the language is very colloquial and is spoken quite fast and the episodes are quite long. But I find it entertaining especially when reading the book in tandem.

https://podcasts.google.com/?feed=aHR0cHM6Ly9hbmNob3IuZm0vcy9mZGI2NjQwL3BvZGNhc3QvcnNz

[carmine canopy]

This is kinda cool, don't know if it's been posted here before:
https://www.duden.de/rechtschreibpruefung-online

But I don't trust it when it says it hasn't found any fehlers in my text

😄

[umbral flicker]

https://www.reddit.com/r/German/comments/ge66ky/free_german_exercises_from_the_menschen_textbooks/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

[carmine canopy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoxqZWvt7g8

[signal lantern]

Hat jemand hier gute Wortschatzliste? Niveau B2

[lilac gate]

hilft dir das? https://www.klett-sprachen.de/aspekte-neu/r-1/15#reiter=mediathek&dl_niveau_str=B2&dl_kategorie=25

[signal lantern]

hilft dir das? https://www.klett-sprachen.de/aspekte-neu/r-1/15#reiter=mediathek&dl_niveau_str=B2&dl_kategorie=25
@lilac gate Das ist toll, danke

[daring elk]

Language Learning with Netflix is actually good.

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/language-learning-with-ne/hoombieeljmmljlkjmnheibnpciblicm

[cyan dirge]

Oooh, neat!

[carmine canopy]

Yo does anyone have a reccomended German podcast for beginners to hear?

Moderately simple but at the same time improve my comprehension

Not a podcast, but there is this old show called Deutsch Plus produced by the BBC you can watch. A few of the episode are on youtube, and i’ve been watching them to improve my comprehension and vocabulary.

Danke schon

Gern geschehen!

[quasi tinsel]

Deutsche welle has Radio D and Warum Nicht and the following Wieso Nicht (for intermediates)

Theyre podcasts

Theres also Coffee Break German if you want to learn grammar and vocab too. Dont forget to review what you hear

@carmine canopy

Theres also Nicos Weg which is a video series/grammar course provided for free by DW (Deutsche Welle)

[carmine canopy]

Hey thanks so much

I'll check them out

[echo venture]

Easy german podcast has clear easy pronounciation

[hard sage]

Danke Bark, die Deutsch Plus Videos sind hilfreilich

Ich kann den Worten folgen

(Hope that makes sense)

[coral oriole]

!play

[hard sage]

Are there any YouTubers that speak German in their videos but just do whatver other stuff youtubers do? I like videos like Colin Furze and MasterMilo, but those are english and dutch respectively

[misty valve]

What kind of videos?

Engineering?

[hard sage]

Anythign really, amking stuff or shows or science/math/engineering

[velvet stump]

So im going through my old books and i found my old vocab book-would you guys like photos of helpful vocab?

[formal comet]

yes please

[velvet beacon]

i know some good german youtubers

[formal comet]

please share them in here

[velvet beacon]

julien bam he do like short movies and music stuff

[carmine canopy]

Kurzgesagt.

It's a channel, where you can learn about some incredibale things.

Also available in English.

[velvet beacon]

reallifeguys they do engineering

[velvet beacon]

i thing they build a submarine now

[vague bobcat]

Mailab also talks about science

[hushed silo]

mailab is a really good channel, yea

[heavy horizon]

Malwanne, Marti Fischer, Space Radio, Gronkh, Fynn Kliemann, Behaind, Battle Bros , Sgt Rumpel, Sarazar, Alexi Bexi, NDR Doku, Zombey, Altf4Games, Gameomat, Coldmirror, Doktorant, MalGli, gametwo, IBlali, Rahmschnitzel, Sturmwaffel, Paluten, Maudado, Peter Frahm, Tamara Wernli, Open Mind, TerraX Lesch und Co, Terra X Natur und Geschichte, Cosmic Cortex, Dorfuchs, Held der Steine, Pietsmiet

[dusky cape]

This is a german song, for beginners lol. Its just about school uniform

Yes, I just joined this server to put this here

[fallen heath]

listen and sign with us

[raw ore]

Kurzgesagt.
@carmine canopy

This channel is just too good to not be given at least a try

[full storm]

http://www.graf-gutfreund.at/daf/02grammatik/01verb/05konjunktiv/ue_konjunktiv_brecht_haifische.pdf

Wenn die Haifische Menschen wären von Brecht.

[modern snow]

@hard sage Have you heard of Joey’s Jungle? He seems to be pretty popular

[rich lark]

Hallo

can someone provide me link for the A1.1 german test , bitte ^^

[misty valve]

@rich lark Check the resource list.

[carmine canopy]

weiß jemand, wo ich A1 Hörübungen bekommen kann?

[heavy horizon]

Gute und nützliche A1 Hörübungen sind selten, da man mit A1 Grammatik und Vokabeln meist noch nichts wirklich machen kann.
Es gibt Videos wie bspw: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-eDoThe6qo (Nicos Weg (A1) von Deutsche Welle), jedoch wird da auch bereits eine gewisse Kompetenz vorausgesetzt, die man bei A1 evtl noch nicht hat. Außerdem kann man sich auch Videos, die explizit an Kinder gerichtet sind angucken (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwFMjJodxP4&list=PLJYkiTzEkqpiZ1qk8aZbCUxAfwootPty1 Sesamstraße), jedoch fängt da die Sprachkompetenz meist bereits auf einer höheren Stufe an, da A halt nur die Grundlagen sind und noch nicht viel umfasst.
Bei A1 kann man halt das meiste noch nicht verstehen. Auf den Grundlagenstufen ist es wichtig sich erstmal ein Grundwortschatz anzueignen, was man wunderbar mit Vokabellernapps, wie Anki machen kann.

[English if you have troubles understanding the german]
Good and useful A1 listening exercises are rare, as you usually can't really do anything with A1 grammar and vocabulary yet.
There are videos such as https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-eDoThe6qo (Nicos Weg (A1) by Deutsche Welle), but they also require a certain level of competence, which you may not yet have at A1. You can also watch videos that are explicitly aimed at children (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwFMjJodxP4&list=PLJYkiTzEkqpiZ1qk8aZbCUxAfwootPty1 Sesame Street), but the language skills usually start at a higher level, since A is just the basics and doesn't cover much.
At A1 you just can't understand most of it yet. At the basic levels, it is important to first acquire a basic vocabulary, which you can do wonderfully with flashcard apps like Anki. @carmine canopy

[carmine canopy]

ahh viele danke @heavy horizon ! es frustiert mich, dass ich nicht verstehen kann, wenn Leute auf Deutsch reden aber ich werde mich konzentrieren, Wortschatz zu lernen

(sorry, if it's messy but I try not to use translator at all)

but yah, I'll try to focus on vocabulary then e_e

[heavy horizon]

@carmine canopy If you do understand the sesamstraße one for example, then just go for it and watch all episodes of that on youtube.
In the meantime you will eventually get to understand natives and vocabulary is key. You might be able to understand german media using german subtitles, if you have enough vocabulary words, ie if you can read german text quite good, which will come quite quickly, if you know more and more words

[carmine canopy]

will try! also, do you happen to have an advice for a problem I have with vocab? So thing is, I learn words and no matter how hard I try, i just forget them? It's frustrating cause grammar is easy, I find XD but vocab... shoot me XDD

[heavy horizon]

Anki (app for smartphones and desktop) for example uses a smart science backed system called SRS (spaced repetition system), where you have increasing intervals for each flash card where you review the card for example the next day then the next week, next moth and so on.

[carmine canopy]

thats actually quite lovely

thanks so much!!!

I'll get to it

[heavy horizon]

Nichts zu danken, gerne doch! 😃

[quiet walrus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LYfN-pzgA8&list=PLHTO4tffa4bBPaLV21SeAenE9BEL8Raip

for beginners

[manic glade]

Anyone have a good source for learning german plurals? Especially regarding the different cases?

[carmine canopy]

Hello beautiful ppl

I studied German at school for 3 years like 15 years ago and was interested in relearning the language

Im doing some research to gather the best resources to study for the A1 exam

I was wondering if any of you have some advice on what is the best plan forward for me in order to achieve that and continuing studying towards being more proficient in German

[quiet walrus]

Ich auch neu

Check out the resources in #282831147942281216

They’re very helpful

Helped me a lot ^^

Es hilft mich

[carmine canopy]

Hallo
Can anyone recommend a YouTube channel for children's songs in German?
It doesn't matter if they're too silly or basic

[sacred glacier]

Just search for "Kinderlieder"🙂

[carmine canopy]

Oh
Thanks

[tidal loom]

I have a question about that Nico's Weg series listed above

Is the language in that realistic at all, or if people spoke like the characters in it (at least in the A1 series) would people think they have a head injury or are mentally stunted?

[sacred glacier]

They speak really accurate and clearly (of course) but I'd say it is very close to reality.

[tidal loom]

Thanks!

I asked because I find some English learning material to be accurate and clear, but also slightly childish sounding

[daring violet]

guys, any of have grammar books or study programs from germany?

(I know they have schools to teach german for imigrants, but I failed to find any university program on the net)

[carmine canopy]

Hi guys, Im looking for a comprehensive course equivalent to the A-B courses but one that I can study at my own pace, I don't like sitting in classes as it gets boring very quickly but I am afraid to go on my own because I don't have a structured curriculum abd exactly which topics I should study and when. Do you know of any such courses online or in some other format? Danke! 👍

[quasi tinsel]

https://www.goethe.de/resources/files/pdf96/leicht_zu_lesen_april_2015.pdf
A list of B2 Level Books, for when you have no idea what to read

[summer delta]

Hallo Noobs :D
I would like some audio files to listen while walking to work, or youtube audio files ( the video is not required to understand the context)
My level is A2
Thanks in advance 😄

[carmine canopy]

Easy German podcast is pretty nice and the topics are varies. You can find it on Spotify.

[misty valve]

@carmine canopy Try Nicos Weg as a starting point. Maybe in combination with the Basic German book from the resource list.

[hard quest]

I scrolled up and I haven't seen anybody mention Herr Antrim on YouTube. His videos have been really helpful to me.

[lilac gate]

Hallo Noobs :D
I would like some audio files to listen while walking to work, or youtube audio files ( the video is not required to understand the context)
My level is A2
Thanks in advance 😄
@summer delta try Coffee Break German. You can find them on Spotify as well

[signal lantern]

https://www.goethe.de/resources/files/pdf96/leicht_zu_lesen_april_2015.pdf
A list of B2 Level Books, for when you have no idea what to read
@quasi tinsel Do you recommend any particular books?

[quasi tinsel]

@signal lantern i havent read any

I struggled to find a copy of them

Ive found a copy of inkheart tintenherz if you were interested in that one

[signal lantern]

That looks really interesting

[quasi tinsel]

Ein Regenschirm für diesen Tag looked good, it has my favourite photo as a cover

[signal lantern]

I've read a few books so far

Momo, Die Verwandlung, Emil und die Detektive, Homo Faber

Some parts were tough but very useful for vocabulary

[quasi tinsel]

I haven’t tackled so many

[grand maple]

@signal lantern Spiegel has released full length magazines about history and stuff like that. called "Spiegel Geschichte"

u can easily find them on VK

Vk is russian facebook

[signal lantern]

Vielen Dank
Yeah, I know VK, it's a goldmine

[grand maple]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yWvcPwyDYw

ik its for kids bit idc the content is still pretty good and informative

and obv the german is very clear

[meager belfry]

That's actually pretty interesting for adults too! Now I have something to listen to/watch when I need more German input

[grand maple]

oh and btw they have subtitles on many videos too

the production quality is overall pretty good .

[violet hedge]

"The Everything Essential German Book" is Free on Amazon Kindle.
Read here https://www.amazon.com/Everything-Essential-German-Book-Everything®-ebook/dp/B00ECFMOB2/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=the+everything+essential+german+book&qid=1590635396&sr=8-1

[carmine canopy]

I am not very good at German, but can read reasonably comfortably. Do not know whether I am qualified enough, but this online book helped me a lot with the grammar:

https://courses.dcs.wisc.edu/wp/readinggerman/

[carmine canopy]

Hello is there any Google doc sheets for beginners for German?

[hushed silo]

faq beginner

[twilit needle]

How to get started

The simplest way to learn German is to find topics you don’t understand yet and search for explanations of them. This list provides you with a guide for which topics to learn if you are completely new to German. Type the topic into Google (or YouTube) and start learning!

Introduction

1: Alphabet (especially ä, ü, ö and ß)
2: Basic greetings (hello, goodbye, etc.)

Part 1 - Simple Sentence

1: Noun gender & plurals
2: Nominative case (What are cases?)
3: Nominative pronouns (I, you, he, she, etc.)
4: Verbs in present tense
5: Definite/indefinite articles
6: Accusative case (for nouns)
7: Accusative pronouns
8: Word order of simple sentences
9: How to ask questions

See Part 2 on the next page.

Tips

• Always learn the gender of a noun when you learn a new noun
• Learn to use a translation dictionary (e.g. dict.cc, leo.org)
• Use >faq resources to see our list of German learning resources
• For listening and pronunciation practice, try watching movies or videos (incl. YouTube)
• You can listen to pronunciation for words on websites like dict.cc, forvo.com, and others
• Practice writing sentences every day (and asking people to correct them)
• Ask as many questions as possible
• Don’t be scared to make mistakes!!!! If you don’t let yourself make mistakes, you will never be able to learn German

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[hushed silo]

@carmine canopy

[carmine canopy]

faq resources

[twilit needle]

resources

https://goo.gl/M906K8

[mighty prairie]

Use https://flippity.net/ flashcards and enter the cells needed in the areas. It has a German audio and English audio for the flashcards. It's through the browser instead of an app. I spent hours getting this all set up so it could be used. Hope some of you find this useful.

[vivid cloud]

anyway i recently came across this website. pretty effective method for learning languages

lingohut.com

[hushed silo]

🤔

so is this just… wordlists with audio?

I’m not seing how this is particularly effective

[vivid cloud]

no there's more to it

click on a lesson and you'll see 🙂

[hushed silo]

yea I have. I don’t see any sentences anywhere

not even in the last lessons

just words

and different ways to learn them

[vivid cloud]

yeah you learn those words by doing flashcards, matching game etc

[hushed silo]

also absolutely no usage notes on the words

[vivid cloud]

it's kinda like quizlet

[hushed silo]

it’s imo very dangerous to learn words without context

[vivid cloud]

hmm idk which method you use

[hushed silo]

you equate them to the ones in your original language (e.g. english)

and then you end up being confused when they’re used in ways you did not expect

[vivid cloud]

why would you be confused? lol

i just learn for fun

[hushed silo]

well, suppose you learn that fahren means “drive”

[vivid cloud]

yeah

i guess each language has it's own exceptions

[hushed silo]

then a sentence like “Ich fahre hinten im Auto” (lit. “I’m driving in the back of the car”) would make exactly no sense

because in this context the proper english translation would be “ride”, not “drive”

[vivid cloud]

yeah but that makes sense to me lol

[hushed silo]

or let’s say you get told that kennen means “to know”
later you learn that wissen also means “to know”

how do you know when to use which?

becuase most of the time they’re not interchangable

[vivid cloud]

yeah i get what you mean now

then perhaps it's not the site for you

[hushed silo]

I mean I don’t need a site to learn german, I’m a native speaker :P
I’m just not a fan of this sorta model

[vivid cloud]

what's your method of learning?

[hushed silo]

words need to come if not with context then at least with usage notes

I like textbooks that explain things thoroughly supplemented with lots of level-appropriate written and spoken material to consume

and yes, flashcards, but ones that provide example sentences and the likes

or remind me of nuances

and the less I can rely on flashcards the better

but I’m not actively learning any language rn

I learned english mostly by going to classes and interacting with the language online

watching tons of videos on youtube, reading forums

[vivid cloud]

i'm currently taking klingon, hungarian, greek, albanian and latvian

[hushed silo]

also, learning words alone just doesn’t teach you how to speak

you also need to know how to combine those words into sentences

and all the baggage that comes with that (e.g. how they change in different situations…)

[vivid cloud]

true

but shouldn't you know as you go along learning phrases?

[hushed silo]

I believe (and this really is just a belief) that it’s far more efficient to actively study how the language works and then expose yourself to lots of sentences, rather than trying to piece it all together on your own

other people have already done the hard work of trying to figure out the system

why do it all from scratch?

[vivid cloud]

so you learn linguistics first?

[hushed silo]

I mean I personally find linguistics very interesting, but no I don’t mean that

I mean get a textbook that explains grammar. those are usually aimed at people who don’t know a lick of linguistics

I don’t mean a grammar book either

[vivid cloud]

i don't learn from textbooks tho

[hushed silo]

I just think it’s valuable to look up stuff and try to actually understand it

[vivid cloud]

i'm just comfortable with using learning apps online

[hushed silo]

then when you see it in the wild you can actually grasp why things are as they are

which will in turn help you to build sentences correctly

[vivid cloud]

so should i read up on grammar notes?

[hushed silo]

https://learngerman.dw.com/en/beginners/c-36519789 if you prefer online stuff, this is one that is commonly recommended here

I haven’t personally looked much through it but I trust the people who recommend it

[vivid cloud]

actually i think duolingo has those but i just learn by doing the exercises

[worldly mantle]

That one should have grammar notes at the end of each lesson

[vivid cloud]

yeah i should probably check those then

how many minutes a day would you recommend learning a language?

and i'm pretty sure my german knowledge is profound enough by now

i started way back in 2015 😛

[hushed silo]

we can put that to the test quite easily. Könntest du dich bitte vorstellen?

[vivid cloud]

lol

[hushed silo]

I think something like 30 minutes is a good minimum to shoot for. more is good if you can sustain it

[vivid cloud]

ok wow

that would amount to too much of my time since i'm taking up five languages now

30 x 5?

[hushed silo]

there’s a good reason why people don’t recommend studying more than two languages at once

and even two can be unsustainable

it really is best to focus on one at a time

[worldly mantle]

Aren't you overwhelmed by that many languages?

[hushed silo]

but you haven’t answered my question. I do wanna see you speaking german

just to like, see if I can give any more personalized advice

things to look into

[vivid cloud]

overwhelmed? lol no way

it's honestly really hard to pick just one

i do find myself dabbling in languages here and there

i think i've tried learning 25 or something

[hushed silo]

ever gotten to fluency anywhere?

or even like, able to hold simple conversations

[vivid cloud]

well spanish cause i took that in high school

then i started learning italian on my own and i felt i was really good at it cause it was similar to spanish

then i took up tons of other languages from there

[worldly mantle]

While this is good for learning about the way languages work, getting familiar with various grammatical structures etc., I don't think it's useful at all in real life. But this at the end depends on you, are you pragmatic against language learning?

[hushed silo]

getting familiar with various grammatical structures
except they’re evidently not doing that, just learning vocabulary

[worldly mantle]

Or like, what is your aim for German

[vivid cloud]

well i'd love to go to germany

[hushed silo]

if you’re so interested in learning abotu languages I would actually recommend you to read into linguistics

[vivid cloud]

i'll see

[hushed silo]

I also see you’ve ignored my requests to say sth in german

[vivid cloud]

oh sorry i forgot about that. hmm let's see

what did you want me to say?

[hushed silo]

dunno just introduce yourself or sth

whatever you want

[vivid cloud]

too easy lol everyone on here can do that

[hushed silo]

It’s not a test lol

[vivid cloud]

then here we go 🙂

hallo ich heise maice und komme ich aus australien. ich habe zweiundzwanzig jahre und bin ich studentin

[hushed silo]

well, there are several mistakes in there. want me to point them out?

[vivid cloud]

sorry i'm not used to talking in german. or any other language besides english. and yes pls do lol

[hushed silo]

Hallo**,** ich heiße Maice und ich komme ich aus Australien. Ich habe bin zweiundzwanzig Jahre alt und ich bin ich Studentin

word order issues: the part after und should be with the same word order as if it was a standalone sentence. you say Ich komme aus Australien on its own, so you should also say …und ich komme…

capitalizatoin: highlighted it but whatever

and finally, in German you are X years old, you don’t have years

these are, imo, things that after supposed five years of study, should be somewhat clear? at least if the time was invested well. I think as annoying as it may sound it would be a good idea to do sth like nico’s weg (or some other structured course) from the beginning. this statement here:

i'm not used to talking in german
is really quite telling to be honest

[vivid cloud]

oh wow that's a detailed correction lol

actually i was writing this story a long while back with german dialogue

perhaps you can take a look at it? lol

but like

[hushed silo]

sure. depends on how long it is

I can give some general pointers

[vivid cloud]

don't be weirded out or anything 😂

i mean it does take place in nazi germany

well half of it. don't worry about the second part

[hushed silo]

I’m starting to get scared

:P

[vivid cloud]

huh?

[hushed silo]

just kidding

[vivid cloud]

no it's about a time travel experiment

so sci fi kinda

[hushed silo]

well are you gonna send it or just keep warning me not to be weirded out?

[vivid cloud]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1C1xtfHIYsywCM1CXiE8h9rkpcwwiss8YRWv49w0kVCM/edit#heading=h.qnutixyokn29

[hushed silo]

don’t have access

turn on link sharing and set it so people who have the link can suggest

[vivid cloud]

ok hang on

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1C1xtfHIYsywCM1CXiE8h9rkpcwwiss8YRWv49w0kVCM/edit?usp=sharing

[hushed silo]

still no access

I think the shareable link may be different

[vivid cloud]

weird

oh i think i need your email address

[hushed silo]

no you don’t

[vivid cloud]

i mean that's how i share my docs

[hushed silo]

no, you really don’t. there’s a setting that allows you to create a shareable link

[vivid cloud]

ok try now?

[vivid cloud]

are you anonymous mink?

[hushed silo]

probably, don’t know how it appears to you

[worldly mantle]

Is my name seen?

[vivid cloud]

nope

[hushed silo]

no

[vivid cloud]

but you can edit, right?

[hushed silo]

just read

aight imma not read the whole thing here’s the first thing I found in German

‘Was machst du hier, sowieso? Du weißt das die wachen werden dich töten!’

‘Kunnen wir sprechen in Englisch, bitte? Das Deutsche ist nicht mein erste sprache.’

1. formality. this soldier would not use “du”, he’d use “Sie”

well, probably, anyway

dunno how formality towards a foreign woman would’ve been handled in the 30s

let’s ignore that

2. the word sowieso just makes no sense here. don’t have a replacement either. it just doesn’t make sense

3. das is a pronoun. you’re looking for dass. it also needs to have a comma before the subordinate clause

4. subordinate clauses have different word order, the verb goes to the end: …, dass die Wachen dich töten werden

5. können, not kunnen. I saw in other places that you tended to skip over writing the dots, too, which is always a mistake

6. sprechen needs to go at the end, as always when you have multiple verbs

7. auf Englisch

8. Das Deutsche → Deutsch
9. mein erste Sprache → meine Muttersprache

and that’s it

[vivid cloud]

that's really helpful. thanks 🙂

[hushed silo]

again lots of small mistakes

I can’t direclty point at anything that you clearly don’t understand or so, so I can’t point you towards topics to look up. except word order

look into word order

[vivid cloud]

alright. i'll also need to look that up for klingon. they have such an unusual word order lol

[hushed silo]

and, well, actually engage in the language

[vivid cloud]

true

i mean how else am i gonna learn it xD

[final storm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5a0Chrrtxw&t=0s

[slim ruin]

faq resources

[twilit needle]

resources

https://goo.gl/M906K8

[keen swallow]

https://open.spotify.com/show/5pzTeqNRZm2NhHrMMk2lMr?nd=1

Not sure if this is the right channel for it, but this quite an interesting podcast for anyone who's interested in knowing a bit more about medieval German literature ^-^

[carmine canopy]

https://www.nachrichtenleicht.de/

👆 very good source for trying to get into more advanced German

[fresh anchor]

@carmine canopy überdrüssig

[wet basin]

https://germantogo.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/001e-Das-Geschlecht-Tabelle.pdf

[fresh anchor]

@carmine canopy @sharp hill

[waxen haven]

I made a cheat sheet to help me with basic German! Hope it can help you too!

[hushed silo]

there’s a mistake: it’s not handele but handle

you’re also missing a case in the diagram

[waxen haven]

Danke! I'm going to update it

it’s not handele but handle
Is this the case only for the verb handeln or for every stem that ends in –n?

[hushed silo]

uh I’m not entirely sure cause I just thought of an example where it doesn’t necessarily happen: hämmern

apparently in both cases either form is attested, but I prefer dropping the e in handle but not in hämmere

I couldn’t tell you why

it’s moot in spoken german though since there you drop the final e

[waxen haven]

"In speech, sometimes the e in the ich-form is omitted." that's why

[hushed silo]

no, that is regarding the final e

and I wouldn’t say sometimes

I would say always

or at least the majority of the time

[waxen haven]

So what should I out on the last collum? Sorry for wasting your time :/

[plush field]

any recomendation on books to start from plain nothing? pdfs i mean

i am looking through the list and i see a lot but all of it is still quite advanced for me

[hushed silo]

Assimil starts at zero
Nico’s Weg is an online course that is widely liked and also starts at zero

[misty valve]

Here is the link for Nicos Weg.

faq nicos

[twilit needle]

nicos

Nicos Weg is a free online program aimed at helping people learn German. It includes video, audio, text, grammar explanations, notes, vocabulary, and exercises. It also includes very useful cultural and bureaucratic information, such as how to open a bank account, while teaching you the relevant grammar and vocabulary.

It’s fairly popular and well-recommended, but keep in mind that you can’t learn a language with only one resource, even if it’s a good one!

You can find the courses here: https://learngerman.dw.com/en/overview/

You can also see various other courses for learners by dw.com here: https://www.dw.com/en/learn-german/s-2469/

[misty valve]

You can also type >faq beginner into #botchannel for beginner advice and a list of beginner topics.

There's quite a few youtube series for German for beginners. You can find them easily just by searching on there.

Also, the book Basic German in the resource list is starting at absolute beginner info.

@plush field

[runic vale]

On the topic of Nico's Weg, does anyone else find they have trouble with the videos buffering? Youtube is ok, but the videos on the website or in the app play for 10 seconds but then sit there buffering

[misty valve]

I haven't had that problem before.

May be worth trying a different browser, and making sure everything's up to date.

[runic vale]

Yeah I've tried it on my phone as well as my desktop, and switch wifi on and off so it's using different connections. Problem seems to be the same. Clearing the cache on the app as they suggest didn't appear to help

[vague plaza]

what's your normal internet speed?

[runic vale]

40Mb I guess? I've got no issue streaming youtube/netflix/etc

[hushed silo]

I checked it out a few days ago and couldn’t get the videos to load, but I figured it was just a temporary issue or sth on my end

[runic vale]

I'm sure I've had it working before, but that was the beginning of the year

[hushed silo]

it works fine right now tho

[misty valve]

Oh I just went on the website and had that same problem. Perhaps it's just a problem with their servers or whatever. It might just get fixed soon.

[runic vale]

Someone suggested it might be faster through a german vpn 🙂 don't have one available to try with. I'm in the UK if that would make any difference on the speeds. Imagine DW doesn't use the same sort of peer caching that youtube/netflix does

[misty valve]

No, since it normally works but currently is having issues, it's most likely just a temporary issue on the website's side.

So probably just have to wait until they fix it.

[runic vale]

Fair enough

[hushed silo]

I just watched the very first video and had no issues rn

guess it’s just being a bit weird

just worked through the first lesson I can tell why people like it

their “how to pronounce letters” section could do with some nice illustrations of tongue movement tho :P

[opaque trench]

@misty valve why can people chat here. this doesnt make sence how am i supposed to find any resources if theres tons of messages

#questions should be used for questions. not resources ;/

[late rapids]

how am i supposed to find any resources if theres tons of messages
@opaque trench
by looking in the list which is pinned

https://goo.gl/M906K8

[opaque trench]

yea but still

this shouldnt be used for chatting or asking questions

everything is a bit messy here

[ebon cloud]

People chat in here because they have specific resource requests or personal recs for resources. All the basics are pinned, so they're easy to find.

If the personal recs are good, then they're added to the resource list. Seems like a good system to me.

[misty valve]

@opaque trench Because resources are going to get buried no matter what you do. It makes more sense to just use the search feature to find what you want.

[narrow charm]

https://yourdailygerman.com/meaning-ziehen/

[narrow charm]

https://yourdailygerman.com/german-prefixes-explanation-be/

[sinful copper]

Just tried to open the workbook section of this entry in the resource list and it won't open. Thoughts? Modern German grammar: A practical guide 2nd edition pdf (+ Workbook)

It's the +workbook link I'm referring to

[misty valve]

https://mercaba.org/SANLUIS/IDIOMAS/Alemán/Modern German Grammar - Workbook.PDF

[sinful copper]

Thanks!

[cloud anchor]

https://quickdraw.withgoogle.com/?locale=de

I use this with DeepL (https://www.deepl.com/) to learn the noun's gender too

[hushed silo]

don’t use a translator to learn words. use a dictionary

as good as deepl is, it is not made for that purpose

[cloud anchor]

mmmm, I'll do it. Thanks

[lilac gate]

this 4th grade teacher is teaching geman using story-listening and I feel like this could be very useful for beginners like me https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZ0xTJKh01_OwUJO_pJuH2A/videos

(found this on reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/German/comments/gy0jrk/this_youtube_channel_uses_storytelling_to_teach/)

[past gazelle]

“Learn German With Anja” is a good resource too

[vague plaza]

This C1 anki deck was just shared on reddit - it matches the vocab from the textbook 'Sicher C1'
https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/1807274639

[past gazelle]

It’s helped me out, but you might be different

[craggy urchin]

Short list of French and German grammar books for the specific purpose of ONLY learning to read German at a scholarly or academic level:

https://divinity.uchicago.edu/our-community/current-students/language-exams

[queen hemlock]

Thanks

is there any other ressources to get going?

[queen hemlock]

Oh les pangolins vous dormez tous?

[carmine canopy]

any reccomended podcasts for A2 level?

[late rapids]

Test your German!

High Quality Hochqualitative Einstufungstest mit Schätzung des CEFR-Niveaus
https://www.gls-sprachenzentrum.de/2155_einstufungstest/sprachtest/online_test_deutsch.html

[noble turtle]

This makes me very happy

Ich konnte aber nicht sehen, welche Fragen ich falsch beantwortet habe

[vague plaza]

Keep in mind that such tests only test your passive comprehension abilities, and the multiple choice aspect allows for random chance too. it's best used in conjunction with things like a self-assessment grid, as passive comprehension is only part of the components that make up your level

That's not to say you didn't do well, but rather not to take it as the word of god when say enrolling into a course

[noble turtle]

Mach dir keine Sorgen
Täglich stelle ich in #german-only fest, wie viel ich für dieses Niveau noch üben muss

[vague plaza]

ich habe das gleiche Gefühl. Ich habe ebenso derartige Online-Prüfungen mit C1+ bestanden, aber weiß, ich bin tatsächlich sehr weit von C1 entfernt

[noble turtle]

Schreiben und Sprechen sind nämlich die schwierigsten Teile jeder Sprache

[clever geode]

This free movie on Youtube has German subtitles and is easy to follow: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlL2GUy6wF4&t=3080s

[raw quail]

Danke

[carmine canopy]

wait, Duolingo is not present in curated list?

[noble turtle]

faq duo

[twilit needle]

duo

Duolingo is a decent resource to start with if you're a complete beginner, but it's neither efficient nor comprehensive!

What Duolingo will teach you about grammar is very limited, and none of the systems they use will help you practise much of it.
You can learn some vocabulary with it, but their method (based on the concept of spaced repetition) doesn't work for everybody, and the way Duolingo teaches is not very effective compared to the amount of time it requires from you.

So, if you find it useful, by all means keep using it, but remember not to fall for its gamification of language learning, and move past it when it stops being beneficial. Ignore the streaks.

In any case, keep in mind that Duolingo is not enough to learn a language, ever.

If you're looking for guidance or alternatives, check out >faq beginner in our #botchannel .

[carmine canopy]

Ah. Thanks 🙂

I am starting to realize it's limitations

German is my third language. So reading anything in German requires me to first translate it to English then into my native language to understand it clearly

[noble turtle]

This is normal in the beginning. You'll start taking the direct route as you get more used to it

[carmine canopy]

The link on resources which leads to workbook seems to be broken.
http://www.readersstuffz.com/downloads/ebooks/Language Books/German/German - Modern Grammar 2.pdf

[pallid ice]

Gut morgen! I wanted to drop a video here that has probably saved me from a few headaches down the road. https://youtu.be/NDaYbhrmLNk

I have been learning for less than a week and I was already making mistake #2.

[lusty ore]

faq

[twilit needle]

:x: The required argument name is missing.

[pallid ice]

For those IT nerds like me that would like a challenge along with some immersion, I had to reinstall Windows so I went ahead and used the German ISO so I would be using the language everyday. NOT recommended for shared workstations or work systems.

[umbral owl]

My colleagues use the German ISO at work. I... don't like it. :]

[noble turtle]

I use the German ISO, it's great

Sometimes tricky when I have to find/fix something using internet tutorials, but great

[bright trench]

has anyone been using language transfer

for german

[misty valve]

What's that?

[ebon cloud]

I think it is learning another language from German when it's your L2. I learned some Italian from German.

[near viper]

I've learned German from English

Well some little stuff

Since I'm still A1

[loud pebble]

Are there resources for hearing comprehensiom? Short answers and yes/no questions

That's what fails me a lot

[weak egret]

you could try watching movies, tv shows aimed for kids, which are simpler

but if you are looking for an actual test to take with hearing comprehension I'm sure you could find some.

[unborn yarrow]

There's a channel called "German Period Drama"

[sinful copper]

I'm looking for people who have experience teaching (or have taken a class) in the TPR Storytelling (Teaching Proficiency through Reading and Storytelling or TPRS) method. DM me please or tag me in your response.

[bright trench]

What's that?
@misty valve its a youtube course thats free atm

just type it in

👀 the grammar in the resources

"modern grammar"

2003

You guys suggest any other grammars that are structured like Schenke's (so for beginners, in English and etc) This one is good, I just wanna try out different options before I decide on one

[pseudo junco]

Is anybody aware of any resources for translating older Hochdeutsch, such as from the 1500s? Or, like, a Mittelhochdeutsch dictionary?

[loud pebble]

@unborn yarrow what's that channel?

[unborn yarrow]

It's a channel that has series in German with subtitles

Iirc,it's historical series

[unreal crag]

Hola

[violet rampart]

from the DER DIE DAS app
ARTICLE DETERMINATION (GENUS)
DER DIE DAS RULES

All nouns are provided with an article in German, one differentiates here between three sexes. Masculine (der), Feminine (die) and Neutre (das) are often used without logic and represent a big hurdle for most German learners! In the following we offer a clear help with useful and simple tips & rules!

Der Rules • Die Rules • Das Rules • Exceptions & Links



Article: DER

The following words are always Masculine (der words)

Job titles: der Anwalt, der Polizist, der Arzt

Seasons & Months: der Frühling, der Sommer, der April, der Dezember

Weekdays: der Montag, der Mittwoch, der Freitag

brands of cars: der Volkswagen, der Mercedes, der Ferrari

compass points: der Norden, der Süden

Wind & Precipitation: der Sturm, der Regen, der Hagel

Words with the following endings are always Masculine

…(i)smus: der Marxismus, der Zyn
…or:  der Mentor, der Initiator
…ig:  der Käfig, der Honig
…ling: der Neuling, der Liebling

Words with the following endings are mostly Masculine

…ich der Teich, der Strich
…ent: der Agent, der Advent
…iker: der Optiker, der Komikerh
…ant: der Mutant, der Gigant
…är: der Visionär, der Milliardär
…eur/ör: der Monteur, der Likör
…ist: der Jurist, der Tourist
…er: der Schwimmer (verbs-derived nouns)

Article: DIE

The following words are always Feminine (die Words)

Numbers: die Drei, die Vier, die Fünf

Plants and trees: die Buche, die Eiche, die Rose, die Sonnenblume

Aircraft and motorcycle brands: die Harley, die Titanic

Female job titles: Die Rechtsanwältin, Die Lehrerin

Words with the following endings are always Feminine

…heit: die Schönheit, die Freiheit
…schaft:  die Geselschaft, die Mitgliedschaft
…keit:  die Reinlichkeit, die Möglichkeit
…ung: die Zubereitung, die Versorgung

Foreign words with the following extensions are always Feminine

…age: die Gage, die Montage
…ik:  die Optik, die Kritik
…ion:  die Konstelation, die Diskussion
…ur: die Prozedur, die Korrektur
…ade: die Parade, die Rochade
…anz:  die Aktzepanz, die Ignoranz
…enz:  die Karenz, die Lizenz
…tät: die Plausabilität, die Rarität

Words with the following endings are mostly Feminine

…ie: die Partie, die Manie
…ei:  die Sauerei, die Singerei
…in:  die Diebin, die Radfahrerin

Article: DAS

The following words are always Neuter (das Words)

Colours and metals: das Silber, das Weinrot, das Himmelblau, das Grün

Diminutive (belittlement form): das Mädchen, das Kleidchen, das Bübchen

Chemical elements: das Helium, das Magnesium (Ausnahmen: Kohlen- Wasser- Stick- und Sauerstoff, Phosphor & Schwefel)

Substantiated adjectives: das Wohlfülen, das Blau

Substantiated verbs: das Springen, das Denken

Words with the following endings are mostly Neuter

…nis das Bündnis, der Zeugnis
…ment das Monument, das Dokument
…tum das Eigentum, das Datum
…um das Referendum, das Album
…o das Radio, das Auto

EXCEPTIONS

There are several words with several articles such as the virus (der / das Virus) or yogurt (der / die / das Joghurt). On the other hand, the meaning is twisted, e.g. der Korn (liquor) das Korn (grain).

[bright trench]

@violet rampart i wonder if there's a nice visual guide to this i can print out and use

🤔

[violet rampart]

@violet rampart i wonder if there's a nice visual guide to this i can print out and use
@bright trench no, there is inly the app called DER DIE DAS

But you can copy it from the app, it has nice formstting

[bright trench]

lemme see

Couldn't find any visual posters here in #resources

maybe someone has their own

i wonder.

[bright trench]

anyone :(?

r/German doesn't produce anu

any

[vague plaza]

this one is commonly shared around

@bright trench

however that isn't exhaustive, there are exceptions, and other rules that come in to play

[pliant lotus]

Oh thank you ;3@vague plaza

[vague plaza]

however that isn't exhaustive, there are exceptions, and other rules that come in to play

[cloud anchor]

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVe51k2mKAYufKpEMuYAumQ

[bright trench]

Hey so I heard Schenke's grammar has some mistakes in some editions

Is there one available with the mistakes fixed

[unreal goblet]

Anyone taken a look at the German Second and Third year book? I'm looking for something like that to learn German this summer (I have taken an A1 course)

[molten veldt]

faq resources

[twilit needle]

resources

https://goo.gl/M906K8

[lusty ore]

faq

[twilit needle]

:x: The required argument name is missing.

[carmine canopy]

Hat jemand Notizen zu Konjunktiv 2?

[hearty harness]

auf Englisch - ist das okay?

[carmine canopy]

auf Englisch - ist das okay?
@hearty harness yes

[hearty harness]

Diese Notizen sind ungefähr 3 Jahren alt, also könnten sie ein paar Fehler haben.

[carmine canopy]

Danke schön @hearty harness

[hearty harness]

kein Problem

[chilly chasm]

Hey guys, I wanted to let you know about this app, it’s really helpful even though it has a Plus version for you to pay, But if you don’t pay you still have access to the lessons and exercises . It’s really useful and the grammar is separated among levels

[chilly verge]

DeepL has a translation dictionary section that also shows a bunch of references for where that word appears. This could easily be hooked up to help create more in depth flash cards for whatever you may be doing (I believe there is also an API for it)

https://www.linguee.com/english-german/translation/cheesecake.html

[shy robin]

I'm sorry, anyone knows where I can find list of vocabulary for each level? (ie A1 words, A2, usw)

[vague plaza]

there are some in the pinned resources document.
also early level vocab lists are usually pretty solid but after about b1 it gets much harder since the vocabulary you should know isn't that easily quantifiable as for CEFR exams your personal interests start to dictate your vocabulary, and the breadth of vocab that you should know starts to become so large as to be hard to simply put in a list without that list being an entire textbook in of itself.

however you can still find lists of key vocabs used in some textbook series on anki or within the textbooks themselves.

but for a1, a2, and b1, the goethe lists should be a good starting point (but don't forget that those lists are a bare minimum and you should be aiming to expand your vocab as much as possible)

[ruby trench]

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Koennth ihr mir einen Link zu einer Ansammlung von Aufgaben zum Schreiben schicken ?(c1)

Jun 26, 2020, 11:14 AM

[waxen burrow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jlpDuo10sw
i just found this inspiring, not sure is it good to share in this channel

[chilly verge]

Do you think it is reasonable that I just go through the top 5000 most common words as a substitute for the Goethe stuff (I'd be studying more things in the future anyways, and reading a lot)

[vague plaza]

For what level?

[chilly verge]

I mean, I'd be studying that vocab in conjunction with reading various things, but I'd hope to get to around a B1 level (at least in vocab)

I'd say I'm a low A2, or high A1, rn. Would it be reasonable to aim for a B1 or low B2 level by the end of the summer (assuming I study for at least a few hours a day?)

[misty valve]

Yes.

Well, B1 is possible. But it doesn't hurt to aim high.

[chilly verge]

I know vocab density in German is a bit higher than some other languages (ie, more words to comprise the same proportion of the common-tongue), so, I'd need to likely know more words to get the same info across (if that makes sense). I'm decent with the grammar, & I'd think that vocab comprises the largest proportion of my study now

just kind of overwhelming how many words there are 😛

[vague plaza]

one probalem you may have with the 5000 most common words is that you will porbably already know a decent enough hunk of it that you'll be repeating stuff which can make things a bit boring / harder to get through.

as for quantifying your level via vocab - there aren't really any guidelines on vocab size per cefr level.

as for being overwhelmed by the number of words? that's pretty normal. even as an adult native speaker of a language you probably learn at least a few new words - possibly many more if you read a lot - every year.

[chilly verge]

I will (and am) interspersing a lot of the vocab study with reading various texts that I've found online. There's a few websites that group those values specifically based on the precieved CEFR level (idk what from), and those should hopefully get a better feel for the amount that I know.

[vague plaza]

around b level vocab starts to become less generalised too. i.e. if you're into keeping reptiles, at b2 you'd be expected to know a lot more vocabulary about keeping reptiles than say physics terms. and you not knowing those physics terms doesn't make you less b2. however not knowing vocab for stuff you're actively interested in would

[chilly verge]

Hopefully at that point I'd be able to read more generalized texts, too.

[slow flume]

@chilly verge Summer as in ~90 days?

[chilly verge]

A specific date would be sept 8

(ie like 74 days)

[slow flume]

Without sounding harsh I dont see B2 being feasible, although it could technically be possible (getting into Harvard is also technically possible)

B1 probably possible if you spend around ~20 hours a week

[chilly verge]

Kind of meaning at a level that could be between B1 & B2 (if that can be defined)

I am spending between 3-4 hours a day (like 30 a week)

so, that would be feasible

[slow flume]

A week or a day

[chilly verge]

day, I meant

[slow flume]

Yea It might be possible

Just keep working and dont worry too much about the level until september

[chilly verge]

It'd be around 320 hours (with the time I've put in already)

ya

I mean, my hard deadline for decent fluency is feb 1, as I'm going on an exchange to Germany for 3 months

(ie, hopefully C1)

[slow flume]

C1 before or after the trip

[chilly verge]

Yearning for before, but that'd honestly be really difficult.

[slow flume]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPdiE0x9B24 how much can u understand of this

[chilly verge]

I understand the majority of the vocab, it's a bit quick though

[slow flume]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CH4J7bWHEBs

try this lmao

[chilly verge]

oh dear, like 50%, lmao

I'm at around a A1 level rn, lol. I can write things if I aim to do it, but, my comprehension ability is really dependent on the speed of the speaker

[slow flume]

it took me years to get comfortable with listening comprehension

[chilly verge]

i can barely understand english rap, tbh

My biggest comsumption of media (in any language) is mostly through literature

[bright trench]

i can barely understand english rap, tbh
@chilly verge i can barely understand rap in my native language

So .. xd

[chilly verge]

ooof

I mean, I just don't listen to rap often

It's probably a thing that comes with exposure

[novel ginkgo]

Gibt es auch Ressourcen für Muttersprachler? (nicht nur en -> de)

[vague plaza]

welche Arten von Resourcen?
allgemein kann ich die Duden 1-12 Reihe empfehlen. Mindestens nummer 4. Die Gramatik. Das hat zwar hilfreiche Sache für Lernenden, aber ist definitiv für die, die schon fließendes Deutsch können, geschrieben worden.

[cloud anchor]

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEByPi2gBp1SThXGFx_9h57mB7YjagALp

[umbral owl]

A Comprehensive Guide to Formatting on Discord: https://imgur.com/a/Eicxo59.

[jovial cypress]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/guides/zsb76fr/revision/2

found this gem of a website today

also check out 'schuhplattler' on youtube

[maiden wave]

Does anyone happen to know German tv/movies sites with german subtitles

[formal bramble]

if documentaries are ok, this channel has a lot of em and they're all subbed https://www.youtube.com/user/ndr

[maiden wave]

Sure, anything goes!

[heavy horizon]

On NDR Doku the subtitles however often do not align with what they are saying, but rather summarise a bit, leaving out colloquial or speech specific things or phrases/wordings. probably because they are designed for or created with hearing impaired people in mind.

[sacred jewel]

This is quite common in German media, I hate it

[vague plaza]

it's not uncommon in most subtitles
I've found that anything with closed captions tends to be more accurate than normal subtitles, but that's anecdotal

[cloud anchor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JS91p-vmSf0

[dusky bolt]

Does anyone know any resources that helps if I want to pass Goethe institute exams in my country? They are pretty expensive. I just want to take their exams. And when I checked their textbooks they aren't very suitable for self learning I think. Do resources like that exist?

I studied German 3 years in my school. My knowledge isn't zero but I need the resources that would make me pass the GI exams

[misty valve]

Check the resource list for a few resources.

It's pinned in this channel and in the topic.

[bright trench]

if documentaries are ok, this channel has a lot of em and they're all subbed https://www.youtube.com/user/ndr
@formal bramble you have something like this but w/ english subs?

[formal bramble]

i don't, no

[bright trench]

oh, okay

[vague plaza]

a heads up that for the purposes of learning german, research suggests that if you use subtitles in your native language then there is very little to no benefit in regards to language learning. one of the most effective ways to utilise video media is audio + subtitles in your target language, with the text within a range of difficulty not too far outside of your current comprehension abilities

[cerulean jolt]

any good books or anything to help me learn easier/faster? I’m slowly learning more words but whenever I join chat and try to speak I’m embarrassing myself and can’t understand over half of what is said.

[vague plaza]

have you checked the pinned resources doc?

many like the schenke/seago basic and intermediate german

nicos weg is also often recommended here

faq nicos weg

[twilit needle]

nicos weg

Nicos Weg is a free online program aimed at helping people learn German. It includes video, audio, text, grammar explanations, notes, vocabulary, and exercises. It also includes very useful cultural and bureaucratic information, such as how to open a bank account, while teaching you the relevant grammar and vocabulary.

It’s fairly popular and well-recommended, but keep in mind that you can’t learn a language with only one resource, even if it’s a good one!

You can find the courses here: https://learngerman.dw.com/en/overview/

You can also see various other courses for learners by dw.com here: https://www.dw.com/en/learn-german/s-2469/

[vague plaza]

unfortunately the best ways to improve speaking though are by actually speaking and writing

[misty valve]

@cerulean jolt Don't worry, you're not embarrassing yourself at all! Everyone here was a beginner at some point.

[naive kettle]

@cerulean jolt i understand. just keep speaking

@vague plaza can you explain to me where i can practice to speak?

[bright trench]

@naive kettle we have voice channels 😄

[naive kettle]

Used frequently?

[vague plaza]

yep. it depends on the time of day and your tinezone but in the evening european time there's usually a few in there

[vague plaza]

TIL that spotify has audiobooks on it, including some german audio books
https://open.spotify.com/album/4Soe26jkBp1NOmlnk24X4Z?si=3MqqYKL5QyWoIKYYfZeBOg
Not just Goethe stuff either. Thereäs Percy Jackson and a bunch of other stuff

[chilly verge]

oooh

[sacred jewel]

@carmine canopy Have you tried Nicos Weg? It's a website in textbook format A1 to B1

ex nicos weg

[twilit needle]

nicos weg

Nicos Weg is a free online program aimed at helping people learn German. It includes video, audio, text, grammar explanations, notes, vocabulary, and exercises. It also includes very useful cultural and bureaucratic information, such as how to open a bank account, while teaching you the relevant grammar and vocabulary.

It’s fairly popular and well-recommended, but keep in mind that you can’t learn a language with only one resource, even if it’s a good one!

You can find the courses here: https://learngerman.dw.com/en/overview/

You can also see various other courses for learners by dw.com here: https://www.dw.com/en/learn-german/s-2469/

[sacred jewel]

Bitte 🙂

[bright trench]

I like how free is underlined.

free

[grand maple]

yes because such good resources are usually not *free

[bright trench]

exactly

free

[hushed silo]

does anyone here have experience with Language Transfer? I came across it a bit ago and it’s interestingly different from most other things I’ve seen before, so some people might possibly like it a lot. The course is based around taking your time thinking through how to say things properly rather than drilling it. My main concern with it is that the guy who does it is himself not a native speaker and has far from a flawless accent. I also have some more minor things but I can’t really give an educated opinion on them without looking at it in more detail.

anyway, if someone wants to take a look or try out sth novel (the people on /r/languagelearning seem to generally like it) here you go https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PLeA5t3dWTWvtU5nXIBbV1F_dy9VIyGDWb&v=1wRGdwf7b_o&feature=emb_title

it’s entirely free

[cloud anchor]

https://www.gratis-hoerspiele.de

[lilac gate]

https://www.reddit.com/r/German/comments/hnjawi/hi_there_im_organizing_a_german_conversation/

not sure if it is okay to post this here, but it might be helpful

[shadow moat]

Hey I have a question for the document with pinned resources! Is the grammar overviews 1A etc. All the grammar You have to know at each level?

[vague plaza]

pretty close to it

[misty valve]

Yeah, it just depends what tests you're planning to do specifically. Since they might differ a bit.

[crude forge]

How to pronounce that throat-R in german:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5DgUuCIHc0
(In A1 I saw the video with the subtitles activated in English. This was the one that most helped me by far. I saw 5 other videos back then that I can search too if you guys want.)

can I add pdfs too?

Set of guidelines for pronunciation.
Particularly important is noticing the long and short vowels, and how you can have an a priori idea whether a vowel is open or close.

[vague plaza]

since it's sometimes a hot topic here: the official rechtschreibungregeln
https://www.rechtschreibrat.com/regeln-und-woerterverzeichnis/

[hushed silo]

those pronunciation guidelines are kinda pointless since they don’t actually tell you how things are pronounced unless you already know it

like, it gives some categories and what not and tells you some words in each category but it doesn’t actually describe how those sounds are made, it basically already expects you to speak German

[tropic vector]

What’s the best resource for figuring out the gender of a word you hear

Is there something for nouns like Reverso is for verbs

[vague plaza]

yes. take your pick of just about any monolingual or bilingual dictionary

[spare spoke]

https://www.reddit.com/r/German/comments/hpk5v5/stories_in_basic_german_useful_for_a1a2b1/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

[lavish star]

anyone know any good language learning apps that aren't duolingo?

[misty valve]

faq nicos

[twilit needle]

nicos

Nicos Weg is a free online program aimed at helping people learn German. It includes video, audio, text, grammar explanations, notes, vocabulary, and exercises. It also includes very useful cultural and bureaucratic information, such as how to open a bank account, while teaching you the relevant grammar and vocabulary.

It’s fairly popular and well-recommended, but keep in mind that you can’t learn a language with only one resource, even if it’s a good one!

You can find the courses here: https://learngerman.dw.com/en/overview/

You can also see various other courses for learners by dw.com here: https://www.dw.com/en/learn-german/s-2469/

[misty valve]

@lavish star

[lavish star]

Danke

[patent elk]

Guys, do you have by any chance a link of a site that had short stories in German? I remember I got it here, but it was months ago and I couldn't find it.

[cloud anchor]

I don't know a site like that but there's a Youtube Channel called "My German Short Stories". Its stories' mainly focus are A1~~B1 learners, so it's good for beginners or even German learners that are a bit more advanced than A2. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfICLkXJnzcDDc3I7S6f9QA

@patent elk

[patent elk]

Ohhh thank you so much!

[vague plaza]

@loud acorn For b2 and c1 grammar check the grammar summaries in the resource doc. but especially at c1 you want to be learning more from media and conversation
however people often overlook that dw still has a lot of b2 and c1 resources
https://www.dw.com/en/learn-german/level-b2/s-13230
that includes an interactive course a la nicos weg - jojo sucht das glück
i also recommend podcasts and audibooks on spotify, as well as watching some stuff on netflix

[loud acorn]

Thank you. I have already finished Nicos Weg and Jojo. So it is simply a matter of more vocabulary?

[hushed silo]

honestly at that stage what I’d recommend is some time going through a detailed grammar book just to see if you find any gaps in your knowledge, and reading & using the language a ton

[astral zenith]

Are there any grammar books or books you recommend for beginners

[vague plaza]

anything aligned to the cefr level a1 is a good start

[astral zenith]

Ok thanks

Anything in general online apart from nicos

[astral zenith]

Does anyone have a Google Doc with vocab on??

[vague plaza]

there are a bunch of differnet vocab lists/resources in the pinned google doc

[astral zenith]

Where

[vague plaza]

click the pin in the top right corner.

[astral zenith]

Thanks

[jovial cypress]

kennt jemand hier,wo ich deutsche versionen von beruhmte englisch bücher( wie z.b Atomic habits) finden können?

[silent hollow]

https://www.randomhouse.de/Paperback/Die-1Prozent-Methode-Minimale-Veraenderung-maximale-Wirkung/James-Clear/Goldmann/e552511.rhd @jovial cypress normalerweise versuche ich zunächst, die Seite des Verlags zu finden, dann wechsele ich die Sprache und es kann manchmal einfach da sein :)

[jovial cypress]

danke Matt,ich bin zurzeit A2-B1 .lohnt es sich deutsche Bücher zu kaufen in meinem Niveu

ja... und auch welche bücher empfelst du

[silent hollow]

Ich glaube, dass ich ungefähr den gleichen Niveau wie du habe - ich habe auch Atomic Habits auf Englisch gelesen und denke, dass für unserer Niveau könnte das etwas schwierig sein. Aber das könnte auch eine gute Herausforderung sein, denke ich :)

Ich habe schon die Verwandlung gelesen, und die war nicht so schlimm

Und ich werde bald „Homo Faber“ von Stiller lesen, es sieht gut aus, meiner Meinung nach :)

[jovial cypress]

ich denke auch das es eine gute herausforderung sein kann.ich werde mal es mit "play bücher" probe(trial) die ersten etwa 15 seiten zu lesen versuchen.wenn das gut geht, werde ich es kaufen

ich habe auch 'der kleine Prinz gelesen das war nicht sehr schwer zu verstanden

vielen dank für die Empfehlungen.ich werde sie auch probieren

[silent hollow]

Cool! Kein Problem 😊

[idle meteor]

Hello. Sorry if this is an odd question. Looking at the german fluency requirements for ETH Zürich shows their acceptance of the Goethe Certificate. However, they do not do Schweizerhochdeutsch which myself and those around me thought strange. Nonetheless, I tried to look for good resources for learning the Swiss Standard German out of curiosity, however I could not find anything. Are there in actuality good resources for learning this or no?

[vague plaza]

swiss standard german is 98% rough estimate the same as german standard german. a couple of the daf textbook lines have regional swiss/austrian variants but they're usualy the integration course focused ones. but the biggest difference is the lack of eszett and a couple of minor vocab variations like how in germany there's Möhren vs Karroten

[hushed silo]

replace ß with ss and »these« with «these» and you have swiss standard german

(plus some vocab preferences but no sentence you say in german german is wrong in swiss standard german)

so you don’t have to search out dedicated resources for swiss standard

and any proficiency test they accept will be just fine

[strange pivot]

What are some good german YouTube channels ?

[bright trench]

Easy German

[strange pivot]

Danke

[cloud anchor]

"Kurzgesagt - in a nutshell" is also a good German yt channel, since most of its videos has subtitles and all of them are very interesting

[umbral flicker]

@jovial cypress you should check Goethe’s elibrary

[jovial cypress]

i tried sighning up ,unfortunately i keep getting this message every time i try to reserve a book

[vague plaza]

you might need to check your emails (spam folder especially) for the activation email

@jovial cypress

[jovial cypress]

Ich habe auch meine E-Mail bestätigt.und die Siete als beide English und Deutsch versucht

gibt das glieche Ergebnis

ich schaetze,es ist nicht mein Schiksal sie zu nutzen

[vague plaza]

try activating on this page https://my.goethe.de/kdf/faces/user/library/library.faces?symvl=t&ort=pxxenYY&locale=en
@jovial cypress

[jovial cypress]

vielen dank! @vague plaza ich hab mein erstes Buch vorgemerkt

[jovial cypress]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3cTs6ctQ5k

[crude forge]

like, it gives some categories and what not and tells you some words in each category but it doesn’t actually describe how those sounds are made, it basically already expects you to speak German
@hushed silo
Oh, it helped me a lot. I feel I can properly pronounce any word now, expect those from other languages that do not follow the guideline ofc. I mean, before seeing this, for instace, I found pretty much random to know whether a vowel was short or long, close or open.

[vocal chasm]

https://www.qub.ac.uk/directorates/InformationServices/LanguageCentre/lockdown-language-learning/BeginnersGermanVideos/WatchandLearnWeek1/

Hey everyone - Queen's University Belfast have 5 weeks of pre recorded German lessons for beginners. Each week they also had a live clinic session where students could ask questions about the lessons - recordings of those are available too.

Hope some of you find these useful :)

[brisk ibex]

for beginners I love Kathrin Shechtman. She teaches english students german by telling kid's stories with simplified language and visuals. It is all in german but almost everything is comprehensible because of how she explains everything (and uses pictures 😅). It is really worth a watch; she has a website where she explains what research she uses to create the lessons in a way that it is most efficient at teaching german, if you are curious in that regard. Again, love her stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/c/kathrinshechtman

https://youtu.be/AheadZNTVK8

[crimson carbon]

@brisk ibex Danke!

[glass slate]

This teacher is great! I was looking for stories to read (per level of difficulty) to improve vocabulary, but the way she tells us is good to comprehend and absorb new words and also exercise the listening too.

[jovial cypress]

i dont believe that i have graduated from the A levels but according to busuu i am killing it.i study by myself and i dont have a real metric to know where i stand.do you think busuus test is reliable?

[hushed silo]

I’m not familiar with it but how does it assess your productive abilities (speaking, holding conversations, writing texts, understanding things quickly etc)?

if the answer is “not” then it’s an incomplete picture

have you looked at the self-assessment checklists?

I find them pretty well-made, though of course they are self-assessed

[astral cave]

Hey @hushed silo where's the self-assessment checklists?

[hushed silo]

in the resources list

very bottom

which you can find in the channel description or pins

[astral cave]

ah thanks.

I was coming to ask about this. I would like to "aced" A2 in 2 months of study. not sure if possible, but there are intensive course that promise A2 in 1 month

so I would need a checklist to keep me in line.

[jovial cypress]

speaking, holding conversations, writing(long) texts were not included in the test @hushed silo

[hushed silo]

yea they’re probably pretty good for that stuff kürbys

[jovial cypress]

but there is a time limit on every question

so cheating would be very hard

[hushed silo]

I’d say conversational skills are a big part of stepping over to level B

like at B1 you should be able to hold conversations if they’re on familiar ground

(e.g. on topics you’ve studied vocab for)

not error-free nor fluently, but like

passably

like in a very very oversimplified, level A is about getting to the point you can communicate, level B is about getting to the point where you can communicate without sounding like an idiot and level C is about getting to the point you have full control in complex situations

[jovial cypress]

i agree ... but no that ideal for me since there is noone in vicinity that knows german to practice with
also for the time being i am still focusing on imput'

that is a pretty good summary of the grading system

[astral cave]

I feel stupid now, I know there's a channel where they put sentence for each level to translate, and later they publish the sentence translated so you can compare. but i cannot find which channel is it, or where the doc links are

[sacred jewel]

#study-tasks

https://www.dropbox.com/s/yegff66lfcdwhsa/Sätze zum Übersetzen.odt?dl=0

[astral cave]

Endlich! That's the one @sacred jewel thank you very much.

[sacred jewel]

No problemo 🙂

[fiery tapir]

Has anyone listened Coffee Break German? If so, what are your thoughts?

[upbeat iron]

Does anyone know of an equivalent for German?

[carmine canopy]

@upbeat iron German is pretty easy for phonetics

[upbeat iron]

Danke

[carmine canopy]

Hello. Me and my friend maya wonder if you got any site that you can upload larger files and so maybe they will be saved to the account. It would be good to get critique/feedback from other pianists or people with interest of piano. That's all. Thank you in advance!

[sacred jewel]

Google Drive? 🤔

[novel ginkgo]

Können wir ein paar Links finden für Leute die nicht Englisch sprechen aber Deutsch lernen wollen, oder zumindest eine paar Links für diejenigen Deutschen die auch mal Grammatikübungen machen wollen?

Wir haben viele die zum Beispiel Arabisch sprechen.

[vague plaza]

dafür empfehle ich Hueber Verlag Bücher. sie sind normallerweise 100% auf deutsch, aber sie haben auch ein paar zweisprachige Lehrbücher auf andere Sprachen die nicht englisch sind

deutsche welle bietet auch ein paar andere sprachen, einschließlich arabisch

auch nicos weg auf arabisch
https://learngerman.dw.com/ar/overview

[novel ginkgo]

Ich komme aus Bremerhaven. Ich dachte eher für die Anderen. 😉

[vague plaza]

ähh
oft muss man einfach die Websitesprache ändern

[novel ginkgo]

Meinst du bei Google?

Ich sehe nichts für Muttersprachler.

[vague plaza]

ja bei Google

[novel ginkgo]

Also wenn man aus Tunesien kommt, sieht man eher Arabische Links als die Links die jetzt auf Englisch sind?

[vague plaza]

ich nutze Lingolia oft
https://deutsch.lingolia.com/de/

ich habe keine Ahnung, wo wir gute ressourcen, die nicht auf englisch oder deutsch sind, finden können. wenn man die sprache nicht spricht, kann man natürlich nicht einschätzen, ob die wircklich gute ressourcen sind.
aber wenn leute, die andere sprachen sprechen, empfehlungen und links haben, dann würden die mods sicherlich sie zum gdoc hinzufügen wenn gefragt

[novel ginkgo]

Vielleicht können wir mit Deutsch anfangen? 😉

also:

Bücher:
https://shop.duden.de/Shop
https://hueber.de
Online:
https://deutsch.lingolia.com/de/
https://www.grammatikdeutsch.de/
https://www.schlaukopf.de/
Sonstiges:
http://www.atlas-alltagssprache.de/
https://rechtschreibpruefung24.de/
https://mentor.duden.de/

Apps gehören bestimmt dazu

Ich kenne mich leider nicht damit aus.

[novel ginkgo]

Mir wurde auch mal gesagt dass Schubert Verlag ganz gut ist.

[bright trench]

Anyone got a cheat sheet pdf about conjunctions/ main/sub clauses?

[novel ginkgo]

@bright trench https://www.verbformen.de/konjugation/

[bright trench]

Danke schön

[uncut grove]

https://goo.gl/M906K8

[bright trench]

@leaden zenith don't have any books, but there's a good sci-fi Netflix show in German called Dark

[bright trench]

Has anyone used the gemranpod101?

Any experiences?

[glass lion]

Thats helpful for some pronunciation stuff! But idk about the subcription part of it. I just notice their channel will occassionally post lists of words to know on YT.

Also for anyone into beginner stuff with german Id reccomend looking at the Busuu app if you haven't yet! It has really helpful tips to explain grammar in each section so far.

[fossil oracle]

Can someone recommend me a German grammar guide or something like that.

I am beginner so I need something that goes from the very basic.

Right now I am learning Words from an Anki deck called Goethe Institute A1 Wordlist.

[misty valve]

There's no beginner grammar guide that's best for every topic. Usually I recommend to choose a topic and then look up various resources for it until you find one that makes sense to you.

But if you want to find resources about a specific topic, you're welcome to ask here.

You can check out Basic German in the resource list, but the grammar explanations are a bit basic.

faq resources

[twilit needle]

resources

https://goo.gl/M906K8

[misty valve]

I also recommend to go to #botchannel and type >faq beginner to see a list of beginner topics. The list is ordered based on a recommended order for you to learn them.

[bright trench]

@fossil oracle a lot of people like Schenke's Basic Grammar! You can find it in the resources list. It's really good.

[misty valve]

@bright trench Basic German.

[bright trench]

Ye D: 😄

It got the grammar rules and then some exercises and covers a lot of topics, I think it's pretty beginner - friendly.

[cedar raptor]

Can someone suggest some resources for studying about the verbs with 2 objects(for eg geben) part. I cannot find it in the books?

[sacred jewel]

They are in dativ section @cedar raptor

[cedar raptor]

Okie

[fading scarab]

Dativ section?

[patent elk]

Guys, do you know any "dumb" books or pdfs in German? Like short stories for children idk. Books in .mobi would be wonderful as well but anything is great!

[earnest jacinth]

Hallo! Oder Bücher von A1 bis B2 in .epub format?

[brisk ibex]

https://www.sk.com.br/sk-krash-english.html

Interesting/helpful read

[indigo ingot]

https://verbs.woxikon.com/de Dies ist eine hilfreiche Seite, die reimende Wörter, Verben, Synonyme usw. enthält, falls Sie Gedichte schreiben möchten.

[vague plaza]

clean single 739814885755453520

botty?

<@&305455824174710787>

@smoky dune Pirated links are disallowed here.

[smoky dune]

Oh ok

Sorry

[regal valley]

thanks sun ❤️

[smoky dune]

I will delete

[regal valley]

It's okay, I already deleted them 🙂 it's no biggy

[cyan cradle]

ping

[twilit needle]

:ping_pong: Pong! | 135ms

[smoky dune]

Ok thank you

[cyan cradle]

@vague plaza maybe it deleted the message and discord still displayed the link to you, idk

[regal valley]

nhaw, they were still there

[vague plaza]

the bot also deletes the command invocation on clean

[cyan cradle]

Oh no I think I know why lmfao

[cyan cradle]

Can you do >>ping please ?

[vague plaza]

ping

[cyan cradle]

[vague plaza]

ping

something is a little fucky here

[cyan cradle]

Nah it's intended

[vague plaza]

works in other channels though

[cyan cradle]

Partially at least lmao

Yeah there are a few channels the bot ignores

It shouldn't apply to Helpers though

[acoustic knoll]

how can i get the google drive recourses?

[vague plaza]

by clicking the link in the channel's description

[tropic vector]

Hat jemand das Spiel 'Taboo/Tabu' gespielt?

Ich suche ein Database oder eine Internetseite mit deutschen Wörtern

[carmine canopy]

Yoooo

Busuu is literally the best for learning German

No cap

[cedar raptor]

Can someone suggest resources for figuring out where to use haben and where to use sein?

[vague plaza]

@cedar raptor please don't ask the same question in multiple locations. You'll see that it's already been answered in #questions

[cedar raptor]

F I'm sorry ..will keep in mind!

[rare vault]

faq resources

[carmine canopy]

Hi guys, any good old games with great German translation? Preferably something on PSX, PSP, GBA or NDS. Because my potato can only emulate those.

[cinder locust]

Hi guys, any good old games with great German translation? Preferably something on PSX, PSP, GBA or NDS. Because my potato can only emulate those.
@carmine canopy the sims

[carmine canopy]

Thanks for the rec.

[eager shadow]

Hi guys, any good old games with great German translation? Preferably something on PSX, PSP, GBA or NDS. Because my potato can only emulate those.
@carmine canopy Monkey islandy, you need a emulator to play it, but it's a real gem

[carmine canopy]

Monkey Island is probably the last classic adventure game I haven't played in German.

Completed Day of the Tentacles, Grim Fandango, and tried others too. Deponia is not for me unfortunately.

[gilded aurora]

@carmine canopy i have around 20 hours in pokemon Omega Ruby on the 3ds and it has really improved my vocabulary

so i think all pokemon games are ok

[carmine canopy]

Thanks @gilded aurora, I’ll consider that when I get a 3DS.

[gilded aurora]

there's plenty of pokemon games on the ds too

Might be even better there, since you can use turbo mode to get past the boring stuff

[umbral owl]

The standard titles:
• Diamond/Pearl/Platinum
• Black/White 1/2
• HeartGold/SoulSilver
• X/Y
• Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire
• Sun/Moon, Ultra Sun/Moon

The Mystery Dungeon titles:
• Explorers of Time/Darkness/Sky
• Super Mystery Dungeon

The Ranger titles:
• Original
• Shadows of Almia
•Guardian Signs

Others:
• Detective Pikachu

I've probably missed a few.

All playable on 3DS.

[carmine canopy]

My concern was how good their translations are. I heard German localization are usually not so great.

But probably doesn't matter. More practice even with not so great German localization is better than nothing.

[eager shadow]

Completed Day of the Tentacles, Grim Fandango, and tried others too. Deponia is not for me unfortunately.
@carmine canopy ahh, all such good games

[umbral owl]

My concern was how good their translations are. I heard German localization are usually not so great.
@carmine canopy I've never heard a complaint from my German friends, so I assume they're high quality.

[carmine canopy]

any recommendation on android app for dictionary german-english.. I tried a couple but they are not as good as some dict with other languagen

[ebon cloud]

I use dict.cc and Linguee

I also have a standard German dictionary to look up words without translating, too. The app is just called "Wörterbuch," and I would honestly recommend Duden or another dictionary other than the generic one I use.

[eager shadow]

any recommendation on android app for dictionary german-english.. I tried a couple but they are not as good as some dict with other languagen
@carmine canopy it's called leo

[carmine canopy]

thanks guys. This leo looks like a good app at least 👍

[eager shadow]

I use it regularly

[carmine canopy]

that linguee seems to have example sentences nicely, considering that too

[carmine canopy]

https://www.reddit.com/r/science/comments/i506b1/neuroscientists_have_designed_a_painless_inear/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

[broken ivy]

-join

!join

[autumn zinc]

hi i’m B1 i have certificate, but my vocab is shiiiiiiiit. are reading books a good way to improve it. please @ me when you reply so i can see it

[noble turtle]

Hallöchen! Ich muss mein gesprochenes Deutsch üben. Kennt jemand Apps oder Webseiten dafür? Ich kann auch problemlos zahlen, wenn das so 'ne Premium Feature ist (ich denke Memrise hat so was?).
Wir haben ja VCs aber ich will öfter trainieren.
Danke!

[rugged hill]

Hey Leute, ich hab einen Vorschlag für euch, ich hab eine Playlist mit Songs auf Deutsch und ich glaube es könnte manchen Leuten helfen. https://open.spotify.com/playlist/64YXbXP76kaiaxtFjuUqUf?si=LYWDzewMS7SFxlh_OanpCQ

@noble turtle Was meinst du mit „gesprochenes Deutsch“? Aussprache oder einfach mit anderen Menschen reden zu können?

[noble turtle]

Mit anderen Menschen reden

[gilded pelican]

I don't think there's some usual way here of finding someone to speak with
I mean, I didn't figure that out

But maybe that could be something worth making?
Maybe even some activity with predefined topics, so that you don't need to become friends with someone here in order to invite them

I was thinking about something like that, idea just didn't crystallise enough so that I can make proposal. Yet

Outside of this place, there's italki, you can book community tutors and talk with them about whatever you like or they offer, they mostly cost from around 6-8 eur per 45min and quality varies
I used few, but mostly I used several teachers

Read reviews, if they're one-line or neutral, and not many repeating students person probably isn't that great

[hearty harness]

@noble turtle Ich kenne zwei Apps dafür; Tandem oder HelloTalk. Mit den kann man mit anderen Sprachlernern ins Kontakt kommen, die seinen Zielsprach kennen. Man kann mit ihnen entweder durch SMS oder Anrufe Gespräche halten.

Meiner Meinung nach würden die Mehrheit der Benutzer lieber durch SMS sprechen als beim Anruf kommunizieren. Es kommt wirklich drauf an, mit wem man im Kontakt kommt.

Es gibt auch bezahlte Funktionen dieser Apps, beispielsweise mit HelloTalk muss man dafür bezahlen, das App mit mehreren Sprachen benutzen zu können.

https://www.hellotalk.com/?lang=en
https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/tandem-language-exchange/id959001619

[gilded pelican]

@hearty harness ich habe beiden probiert und es ist ziemlich schwer jemanden zu finden der möchte über etwas reden, und nicht nur 'wie geht es' schreiben. Ich finde italki besser, ja du musst pro Stunde zahlen aber du am mindestens sicher sein kannst dass dieser Person wirklich kommen wird.

Natürlich, ist es sinnvoll alle zu probieren und finden was gefällt dir am besten.

[hearty harness]

Ich habe diegleiche Probleme gehabt. Habe ungefähr beiden benutzt und dann habe ich mich entschieden, mit den aufzugeben

[noble turtle]

Danke für eure Meinungen, Richard und Red 🙂

[gilded pelican]

@noble turtle @hearty harness vielleicht sie beiden werden über die Diskussion am #community-discussion interessiert sein?

[crude pond]

https://open.spotify.com/episode/2oEsBEawXo4S027XLCVtsG?si=BsQApkvNT5CTh3-VULredg

[dusty maple]

https://slowgerman.com/2020/02/25/sg-dialog-10-jobsuche/

https://slowgerman.com/2020/07/09/die-uhrzeit-sg-210/

[indigo ingot]

http://germanisapieceofcake.blogspot.com

http://germangrammarpod.blogspot.com

[quasi fern]

Setting up a German Class for 10 weeks for those interested (A1)

https://www.reddit.com/r/German/comments/i96s88/german_class_for_10_weeks_a1/

For more info 🙂

[cloud anchor]

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLcjvx66j1TVVd7BsGp9BJYevoXQqjGegN

a good way to learn the genders of German words

[carmine canopy]

Hello I have a resources request, I think it was on the subreddit. It was a Google Drive link with a bunch of textbooks and I accidentally deleted it just before. Would anybody have the link?

[plush flax]

Hi! Does anyone have suggestions for German books / novels that would suit an A2/B1 German learner? I already know of Sherlock Holmes: A Scandal in Bohemia and it seems pretty good. The format it's available in isn't friendly at all, though. That's why I'm looking for quality books or novels that aren't intended for learning (because ones intended for learning are very boring tbh) but rather I want one that would grab me and actually make me want to read it. So, any suggestions? Thanks

[carmine canopy]

. _.

i just want to know english language to german so i know what to say when typing

[quasi tinsel]

Kleiner Hinweis:
wenn einem der deutsche Begriff für etwas fehlt, kann man ihn auf seine Muttersprache nachsuchen und die Sprache der Wikipedia-Seite zum Deutschen wechseln und ta-da da steht der gewünschte Begriff auf Deutsch

Klappt auch bei Buch- und Filmtitel

[bright trench]

Don't know if this fits the channel, but I found old resources my grandfather used to study German!

[bright trench]

I was wondering if you anyone could share their learning schedule with me. Recently, I've been struggling with consistency with my German studying and it happens that I skip a day (or a few!) and then one day I just do 5 hours of grammar, or listening, or reading... it's weird. I want to fix it. That's why I need some ideas/ templates/ guidelines how to work on my schedule. I have a lot of free time, so that one should be fine. I'm look at doing around an hour or two daily.

@ if you answer 🙏

[grand maple]

i find that listening is one of the skills that u can cover passively a lot....... while studying/driving/cooking/ and the list goes on. the tough ones to cover are grammar, vocabs, speaking, writing.

and for these u can set a schedule

[gilded pelican]

@bright trench
Let me answer here (topic was youtuber get germanized)

it depends on how you learn best
My way is to take notes, rewind, if I want to really study the matter

This particular I just watched long time ago
But I used Deutsch für euch primarily back then
However DFE goes into the matter much deeper and has a ton of videos and it wasn't easiest to figure out the order

This from get germanised is straight to the point and already ordered
And could be some starting point for someone who prefer learning form a living person than from the apps, and can't afford the tutors

I went with tutors on italki for that initial few months

However word order in a sentence I've learnt from DFE
Had to review the topic though 😂

[bright trench]

and for these u can set a schedule
@grand maple yeah, i agree. That's why I'm looking for some advice on scheduling haha

[gilded pelican]

About schedule. First two months I followed A1 book with italki teacher in a way that before noon I'd do the next lesson and gather questions and make notes
Then around noon we'd have a lesson where she answers my questions
Afternoon I'd do workbook stuff
Then we'd have another hour online
Then I'd finish if I had something

Then comes the next day

I had a tempo of 2x 1h sessions a day plus around 6h of my work and preparation, for 6-8 weeks, forgot how much exactly but it was huge workload 😂 both my hubby and teacher thought that I'm insane, but I had the drive to figure that German out

Granted, I did attend a live course for A1.1 a year before it but didn't like it, but that's the reason why I did materials myself first, since it wasn't totally new to me

I didn't like live course mainly because I would hit 'that question isn't appropriate for this level' several times in an hour and I got sick of it.
Tutor started similarly but then I said - I'm paying you, we'll do my way. We share native language so she had to explain to me German grammar in comparison to Croatian, since I wanted to really understand it

In the live course they force 'only German' which I find stupid - if my German isn't good enough to ask you question I have that doesn't mean I wouldn't benefit from the answer.

Anyhow, crazy intense, we didn't even finish the book, I didn't feel the need 😂

But because of my questions, she was sweating in explaining C1 level grammar points.
So basically that A1 book was just a guide through the material/topics

I did some example tests back then and could pass B1 😂 (the part I could self evaluate)

Then after around 2 months of that tempo I decided I'm sick of the grammar and I want to speak properly, and went with another teacher for that

2 months there and then I got lazy and just learn on the fly as I need something

It just doesn't work for me on the long run to study something for the sake of studying. Same with watching media, if it doesn't interest me, I won't do it just to learn German. And dubbed mostly kills my ears so, nope.

On the other side, if I need it and it's in German, I'll spend hours in trying to figure it out.

Results are good enough that I've adopted a cat, buying hearing-aids and do all fitting procedures, doing insurance stuff, police report and other insurance claims, and currently checking what formal documents have to look like to convince my health insurance to pay full price. Spend 2h talking about that with social worker who advises people on the matter.

I'd say, really good invested few months back then 😂

But also, it's really important to take breaks. For me, months of breaks were great actually.

But you have to know yourself to figure out what works best for you.

You asked about notes, my A1 took 90 pages, in google doc
My speaking practice another 40
Regular font, nothing big

Tldr take a resource and work by it and complement with googling for answers/asking here

One good free is nicos weg, deutsche welle also available as an app learning german from dw

But study, go into why and how
Alone, nicos weg is thin, has some explanations but you definitely need more if you aim for understanding and not repetition only

But my main advive would be, use one resource and others as a search results
Many people, me included would start with several sources and that's energy draining because you see same stuff over and over again (for A1) but explained in a same way

YouTube DFE is awesome supplementary source, she goes deep and explains how things work

There's also one site with deep explanations that wants some small subscription, you'll find it when you start with hard questions

Small stuff, come here

I think that's more than enough to rev you up :)

[bright trench]

@gilded pelican ah, hvala. Thanks for you sharing your learning journey with me. I definitely didn't expect such a large amount of text! Thanks again, I'll try to implement what you've said. 🙂

[gilded pelican]

Neither did I think that it will be that big when I started typing 😂

But main point - you don't need to do crazy schedule for months, several weeks will give great results

Maybe that helps with sticking to the schedule knowing that it's short term kick :)

[bright condor]

Hallo ihr Lieben! I usually don't post here because I'm still kind of iffy on self-promotion, but I released a video the other day that I think a lot of people might find helpful. It's about how to sound more German when you speak and that's stuff I always want to know about when learning a language 🙂 Viel Spaß!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tef7Q_hhiaI

Also it looks like I just got a shout-out on here, how lovely! Thanks @gilded pelican!

[gilded pelican]

@bright condor omg omg you're here ❤️ Your videos are invaluable material, I love them and swear by them! I religiously binge watched first several months of your work, then stopped but I still peek a bit on new material. :) hope your studies are going well :)

[deep tapir]

Wait you are a German native? Hard to notice when you speak English. tbh, I can't hear any super noticeable German accent only after the first 30 seconds. Maybe slight, but nothing major.

[bright condor]

@gilded pelican Hahaha yeees - I wish I had more time to post on here, I think this is such a great & useful community. Thank you so so much, it sounds like you're a DFE "old timer", that's awesome!
And thank you, I'm sure it will help! Have a bit over 2 months left before I take my final final exams in English & Russian literature and linguistics, so you know, no biggie. 🥴

@deep tapir I am indeed, and thank you. This is what growing up on the internet + a love for speech sounds + ungodly amounts of stand-up comedy will do for you.
Btw: Watch German stage comedy, everyone!

[deep tapir]

I totally should. Who do you recommend?

[unborn dagger]

what the heck

you are on here

i love your videos!!! literally the best ive seen on so many things!!!

[gilded pelican]

@bright condor my binge watching happened mostly in 2017 / 2018, so I guess I'm not a newbie to your channel 😂 but I should definitely go back and watch it again now that I have more understanding.

You're among two most important persons to my learning German, another is my second teacher with whom I've focused on speaking and removing anxiety. My first teacher falls a bit behind you two :)

Just wanted you to know that you have one more die hard fan 😂

I believe you'll smash those exams successfully :) just remember to breathe and get good night sleep before the big day
My finals ended being the easiest exam I had, everyone was so friendly and cooperative, and not investigative like in regular exams, hope it's similar at your place :)

[bright condor]

@deep tapir Oh boy, current favorite for me is Moritz Neumeier. American style stand up, but pretty high level. Also has an Instagram with shorter, spontaneous conent.
Kaya Yanar is an all-time fave, fairly well known, pretty colloquial, but relatively easy to understand.
Carolin Kebekus is just generally hilarious and smart, and delivers it in a very "street", yet articulate style.
I'm kind of blanking on more good ones right now, I was about to go to bed lol.

Also check out poetry slammers like Hazel Brugger, Felix Lobrecht & Jan-Philipp Zymny, as well as musical comedy acts/Liedermacher like Simon & Jan or Funny Van Dannen.

[deep tapir]

You even managed to use the word "indeed" without it sounding unnatural 😆 (like a lot of times when you use "zwar" in German, if you said the same thing in English, you normally don't actually even say "indeed" in English), so a tiny thing like that really shows your knowledge. Although where you used indeed it could also be replaced with "actually", but sounds fine as it is with "indeed" : )

Nuances are fun

[bright condor]

They sure are

Imma have to repost the video at this rate you guys

[deep tapir]

I will check them out then. I prefer it to be high level too so that's perfect!

[gilded pelican]

@bright condor that's fine, you'll have to come back tomorrow to post a new link 😉

[deep tapir]

Oh yeah, I forgot to say thank you lol, thanks

[bright condor]

@gilded pelican @unborn dagger Aaaah so much love, thank you so much! ❤️ Hearing this kind of praise during this stressful a time means a lot. Danke danke danke 🥳

Maybe I should open a DFE Discord some time after all

[carmine canopy]

OMG!!!

OMG OMG

[bright condor]

ITS THE QUEEN

[gilded pelican]

@bright condor it's probably easier to just ask here for a channel?

[carmine canopy]

Thank youu for your videos... ❤️ i

i.. i love them!!

[bright condor]

https://tenor.com/view/blushing-shucks-gif-4120218

[carmine canopy]

it helps me alot in understanding verb prefixes..

thank you once again ❤️ ❤️ givin you hearts , prayers and love,, cuz you deserve it!!

[bright condor]

@gilded pelican Should take that up with the mods I suppose - not sure that's a good fit here? Though of course I'd be happy to^^

@carmine canopy That's very sweet, thank you! Glad that series was valuable for you - took me long enough to complete!! 😄

[deep tapir]

Your vid reminded me of something. I was familiar with everything in the vid already, however, one sound that I was pronouncing wrong but got corrected on during my year abroad, was when you pronounce words starting with "z". Like "der Zug". I was saying the "z" a lot like an English "s" but now I know how to say it more German. It's more sharp than an english "s" 😁

[bright condor]

True! I'd even correct that and say it's not an "s", but rather a "ts". That's more basic pronunciation than quirks though, I'd say... but one of the less intuitive for English speakers for sure, you're right!

[gilded pelican]

@bright condor I'm not a mod, so wouldn't know the policy here, but yeah, ask them directly if they have some proposal
As a user, I only see the benefits for us here and you as well

But having own discord definitely has advantages like setting up channels for various purposes
However being here means that many people help, on your own server you'd be most looked upon for that
See with mods here if you can figure out something

Otherwise, create new account and join us to hang out in anonimity, so no pressure as a famous person, no ads, but lots of fun :)

[bright condor]

Well guys I need to sleep and face another day of studying - you know the feeling 😉 Thanks for the unexpected love boost ❤️

[deep tapir]

Lol totally

Np, gn

[gilded pelican]

Yeah, it's 1 am 😂 see you around

[bright condor]

@gilded pelican Very true, definitely more beneficial in an established community 🙂

[deep tapir]

As for me, I am kinda late for work

Cya

[gilded pelican]

😂

[earnest nymph]

I'm making a small role-play game,(Essentially 2 people are given a context(shopping in the fish-market) ,They have to engage in this play(on discord, maybe in the future i'll implement voice chat on the site itself) and then others vote your performance). I thought of this idea , because the biggest problem I have with discord(at least myself) is the awkwardness when you enter a voice-channel, because you usually don't know what to talk about and the language-barrier is also the problem . So if you want to learn new vocabs and speak more the language you are learning( deutsch or even English) you can do it . I saw similar things on another language learning server and it worked kind of well .I want to make a Disclaimer, I'm making this only because i want to learn a new language , not for earning money or anything it will be free.
Let me know what do you think.

[bright trench]

sounds fun

[naive kettle]

That seems good. For the engagement, confidence and practice @earnest nymph

[pseudo iris]

https://discord.gg/G2kpndH

[vague plaza]

faq duo

[carmine canopy]

Does anyone know where I can download German-English and English-German dictionary

as in database with words: word-translation

and preferably audio of the foreign word

[humble lance]

http://everynoise.com/countries.html
Hello everyone. Recently I found a very cool site.
I am sure everyone who enjoys listening to music will love it.
It's basically a place where a lot of music data is collected and divided by genres into Spotify playlists.
I think the most useful part is a tab where all of the playlists are grouped by countries.
There are plenty of them and I'm sure everyone will find the music in their target language.
Enjoy!

[worldly pulsar]

hey everyone, I'm a beginner and I was wondering what is the best way to learn grammar? is there any youtube channels you guys could recommend? a certain book or website? any help would be appreciated. Thanks

or if you guys have any strategies such as 'ignore the grammar and just start practicing' that would help too

[misty valve]

@worldly pulsar You definitely can't go for "ignore the grammar and just start practicing". Usually that kind of approach ends up a total disaster for most people.

But as for which source to use, I personally recommend to try out different ones and see which ones you prefer. Some people prefer watching YouTube, while some prefer reading a detailed grammar guide. It's somewhat a matter of preference, as long as you get the same info one way or another.

If you type >faq beginner into #botchannel you can see our beginner advice as well as a list of grammar topics. And what's recommended is to learn each topic in that list by searching it in your preferred format, e.g. going on youtube or google and typing "german present tense verbs", or looking it up in a book, or whatever you prefer.

[worldly pulsar]

got it, thanks

[gilded pelican]

@worldly pulsar if you decide for youtube, I highly recommend DFE, deutsch für euch
There are few good more, jenny, herr antrim, get germanized, but I liked Katja from DFE the best
Couldn't stand Jenny's voice/speech pattern, but I hear people are happy with her lessons

[ocean mauve]

https://www.spokengerman.net/umgangssprachliche-verben/ Could a native advise if these are pretty standard words or could it be regional?

[normal moth]

Odd question: Does anyone have a German Keyboard recommendation, or German Stickers for a keyboard recommendation? Trying to make typing easier on myself when doing Busuu and other things online.

[carmine canopy]

@worldly pulsar I'd disagree about ignoring grammar being impossible. That approach worked pretty well for me when I was learning English. Immersion learning - listen to German audiobooks/songs, movie scenes and some of the grammar would stick

But that's the passive learning, when you consume content, but don't create your own

To form your own sentences, you'd need to know the rules by which those are formed

@normal moth

do you use Windows?

[normal moth]

I do!

I also have a Mac, it's easy on a Mac, but not easy on a Windows keyboard (especially since I use a Logitech K810 and thus, no numpad).

[carmine canopy]

https://www.autohotkey.com/

[normal moth]

I have that for GW2.

Oh, how convenient. Thank you!

[carmine canopy]

This is an autohotkey script that makes typing german easier on keyboards without german letters
you need to have autohotkey installed for it to work, otherwise the script itself doesn't do anything
you can edit it with notepad if you're concerned about what's inside it